From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1012 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Saturday, March 30 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1012 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks -       MtMan-List: youth rifle -       Re: MtMan-List: water containers and compasses -       Re: MtMan-List: Canteens -       Re: MtMan-List: water containers and compasses -       Re: MtMan-List: get your own Authentic Indian Name (TM) -       Fwd: MtMan-List: #114 Newhouse -       Re:MtMan-List: Early Virginia .54 Flint.. for sale -       MtMan-List: Liver-eatin johnston -       Re: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks -       Re: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks -       Re: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks and canteens and compasses -       Re: MtMan-List: #114 Newhouse -       Re: MtMan-List: #114 Newhouse -       Re: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks -       Re: MtMan-List: #114 Newhouse -       Re: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks -       Re: MtMan-List: Liver-eatin johnston -       Re: MtMan-List: youth rifle -       MtMan-List: buffalo recipes -       MtMan-List: From: -       Re: MtMan-List: Youth Rifle -       Re: MtMan-List: buffalo recipes -       Re: MtMan-List: From: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:15:56 -0700 From: DONALD R SIMMONS Subject: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks Been lurking awhile. Can folks suggest a "reasonable" price source for gourds - bowls, dippers and canteen size. and tomahawks.?? Blades for the hawks would be enough - I can make a handle. I would like functional use before authentic manufacture as a critereia. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:53:32 -0600 From: "FrankF" Subject: MtMan-List: youth rifle Monty, a ml rifle for a youth is a fine idea. There are several routes you can go. The H&A underhammer series are excellent because they are reasonable and the buttstock portion is easily replacable. Just saw off the butt to where it will fit him, then replace when he outgrows it. Or, look for a used factory made gun, like a T/C and saw that off then later replace the entire stock. Going with a custom made rifle would not be economically wise. He will outgrow his first gun both physically and in his appreciation and sophistication of the game. Frank G. Fusco Mountain Home, Arkansas http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 01:04:39 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: water containers and compasses In a message dated 3/27/02 8:34:34 PM, jlallen@wyoming.com writes: << I'm not exactly certain what you mean by "'compensate' a magnetic compass" but Brunton compasses (or "pocket transits" if you prefer) have a built-in declination adjustment. >> Yeah....it is good stuff... We have a deal where we "swing the compass" on an airplane, or boat too, for that matter. What we try to do, is get the magnetic compass to point as close to N..or E..or what ever heading you want. Because of the radios, heated windshield, metal, etc... the compass won't point exactly to...we'll say... magnetic East. This is called "deviation". When little "compensation" screws...or big metal "compensation" balls on a ship... are moved in or out, we get the compass to point as close as you can to East.... Then we swing the ship/plane to North.... you get the idea I think. It will never come out exactly right for all headings, so we make up a "deviation card".... but that's a different story. <> Exactly! ...But not so elaborate work. Standing in Washington, DC, in 1803 and looking true north, the North star (Polaris) would be also magnetic north (0 +/- degrees of variation) two years later in Astoria, the same compass would be off the North star by about 22 degrees ...that's variation... We're talking about the same thing here only it's a lot easier to deal with magnetic courses than true courses....unless you have a gyro....or you have a map with lines of variation on it... which L&C didn't. Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:54:42 -0700 From: Todd Glover Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Canteens This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ----__JNP_000_6ccd.59c1.190f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A few cool refreshing gulps of water would go a long way in easing any harsh ridicule it earned.... On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:18:00 -0600 "Glenn Darilek" writes: Now that several have stepped into the trap . . . I quote from the primary source of the notes of Alfred Jacob Miller: "The time is near sunset, -squads are leaving the main band, and rushing for the water, -thirst is overpowering, and human nature can stand it no longer; -there is a general stampede among the horseman; -the team drivers being compelled to remain, headed by our Captain, who would not move a jot from his usual walk, although he had been smoking for the last 3 hours to relieve this inexorable craving;. . . The question may be asked, why we did not take water along with us? The answer is, that it would have been an innovation on established custom. Nobody did any such thing, -it was looked on as effeminate, to say nothing of the ridicule and rough jests with which the reformer would be pelted.” Glenn Darilek Iron Burner "Teton" Todd D. Glover #1784 http://poisonriverparty.homestead.com - ----__JNP_000_6ccd.59c1.190f Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Canteens
A few cool refreshing gulps of water would go a long way in easing any= =20 harsh ridicule it earned....
 
On Mon, 25 Mar 2002 16:18:00 -0600 "Glenn Darilek" <glenn@leaklocationservices.= com>=20 writes:

Now that several have stepped into the= trap=20 .  .  . 

I quote from the primary source of the= notes of=20 Alfred Jacob Miller:

"The time is near sunset, -squads=20 are
leaving the main band, and rushing for the water, -thirst=20 is
overpowering, and human nature can stand it no longer; -there
is= a=20 general stampede among the horseman; -the team drivers
being compelled= to=20 remain, headed by our Captain, who would
not move a jot from his usual= =20 walk, although he had been
smoking for the last 3 hours to relieve = this=20 inexorable
craving;. . . The question may be asked, why we did not=20 take
water along with us? The answer is, that it would have been
an= =20 innovation on established custom. Nobody did any such
thing, -it was = looked=20 on as effeminate, to say nothing of the
ridicule and rough jests with = which=20 the reformer would be
pelted.”

Glenn Darilek

Iron Burner

 

"Teton" Todd D. Glover=20 #1784
http://poisonriverparty.homestead.com
- ----__JNP_000_6ccd.59c1.190f-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:51:08 -0700 From: Todd Glover Subject: Re: MtMan-List: water containers and compasses Arugh! Before you know it you boys are going to be talking about shooting Azimuth's and such. You're beginning to remind me of all the fun I've had on Land Navigation ranges with my fellow soldiers. Converting grid to magnetic and magnetic to grid is quite simple. Any good map has a declination diagram on it which tells how far in degrees East or West of true north that the land represented on that map is. If you really want to get serious about the whole thing, check out this web site: http://www.adtdl.army.mil/cgi-bin/atdl.dll/fm/3-25.26/toc.htm Teton. On Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:24:36 -0800 "rtlahti" writes: > > > > Any one remember the old "Can dead men vote twice" or "true > virgins make > dull > > company" when correcting from a compass reading to true, or from > true to > > compass? > > Sorry....use to be a navigator in another time... > > Magpie, > > Seems that does ring a bell but I'm sure it was something like 45+ > years > back that I read it. Don't remember how to apply the phrases any > more. > > Used to be a navigator? You better be one now if you ever expect me > to fly > with you! Anyway, thanks for the further clarifications. Kinda > figured > you'd have some input being closer to the craft as it were. > > There once was a time when I think I understood what I thought I > knew. Now > I'm not so sure that what I thought I knew is what I can't remember. > The > whole subject of magnetic and compass's is much more complicated > than I > recall, as I found out when I went to re-reading my references. Glad > there > isn't going to be a test. > > Those 150 foot fir trees will give a fella pause if he didn't bring > a > compass. Kinda dark in there at high noon too! > > YMOS > Capt. Lahti' > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > "Teton" Todd D. Glover #1784 http://poisonriverparty.homestead.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 20:50:30 -0800 From: "rtlahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: get your own Authentic Indian Name (TM) > Hey.....! My name came out to be "OH-GREAT-MAGPIE".....how can that be!!!!?! Yea Right! First liar doesn't stand a chance in this crowd. You coming up on the Palouse with us, "Just Plain Magpie"? Capt. Lahti' - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: get your own Authentic Indian Name (TM) > > In a message dated 3/27/02 2:30:33 PM, rtlahti@msn.com writes: > > << > > Cute, real cute. Fun too, and no I am not going to tell you what my > > "authentic" Indian name is. >> > > Hey.....! My name came out to be "OH-GREAT-MAGPIE".....how can that be!!!!?! > > O.G. Magpie > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 22:49:57 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Fwd: MtMan-List: #114 Newhouse - --=====_101728739741=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ive got 14 dozen of them.. the ole style with teeth..... once trapped wolf= up north Windwalker *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 3/27/02 at 2:18 PM Dawn Beck wrote: Hello, just a quick note following up Morgan's question on the Newhouse= #114. The Newhouse #114 is a wolf trap used in Alaska & Canada. It was= also used as a small blackbear trap in the East. Thanks JR Pederson,= Fairbanks Alaska. *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** - --=====_101728739741=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Ive got 14 dozen of them.. the ole style with teeth..... once trapped wolf up north
Windwalker
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On 3/27/02 at 2:18 PM Dawn Beck <Punkin@mosquitonet.com> wrote:
Hello,  just a quick note following up Morgan's question on the Newhouse #114.  The Newhouse #114 is a wolf trap used in Alaska & Canada.  It was also used as a small blackbear trap in the East.  Thanks JR Pederson,  Fairbanks Alaska.
*********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** - --=====_101728739741=_-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:07:35 GMT From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re:MtMan-List: Early Virginia .54 Flint.. for sale crooked hand-- please send me some jpgs and i'll see if i have someone who is interested hawk ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:29:17 -0800 From: "Dorman Nelson" Subject: MtMan-List: Liver-eatin johnston This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1D69F.9D732E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy, just happened along here..... I am just winding down 9 years of research into John Liver-eating = Johnston...I will tell you that Johnson and Johnston was used throughout = his life even in his pension requests land holdings and cival war = documents.... As of now I can say that his real name was not johnston or johnson.=20 Best regards, dorman - ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1D69F.9D732E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Howdy, just happened along = here.....
 
I am just winding down 9 years of = research into=20 John Liver-eating Johnston...I will tell you that Johnson and Johnston = was used=20 throughout his life even in his pension requests land holdings and cival = war=20 documents....
 
As of now I can say that his real name = was not=20 johnston or johnson.
 
Best regards,
 
dorman
- ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C1D69F.9D732E00-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:19:55 EST From: HikingOnThru@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks Depends on how fast you want them. If you can wait till spring, then go to your local home & garden store and get some seeds and plant your own. Plant them dang near anywhere and they will grow. If you want them to have rounded bottoms then let the vines climb so they will hang (use a good strong support cuz the green gourds can get up to ten or more pounds each with 5-12 on a vine). If you want them flat then grow them sitting. Put them on something to get them off the ground to minimize chance of water rot. The weight of the gourd will flatten the bottom so it sits well. Ideal for bowls. Stop watering about 3-4 weeks before harvest so they will start to dry. Lots of good tips out there on the net. Otherwise, go to the local farmer's market and see who is making "martin houses" from gourds. Ask them for some dried gourds that are intact. Usually it is not too pricey. - -C.Kent - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:12:51 EST From: JimInTexas1962@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks - --part1_96.24176b8b.29d527a3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cant help you with gords but as for hawks,find a JB brand and you got a good'un! they run from $25.00 to $30.00 and are good quality respectfully Jim Branson - --part1_96.24176b8b.29d527a3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cant help you with gords but as for hawks,find a JB brand and you got a good'un! they run from $25.00 to $30.00 and are good quality
                                                         respectfully
                                                               Jim Branson - --part1_96.24176b8b.29d527a3_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:50:55 -0600 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks and canteens and compasses Donald, Most functional is most often found in most authentic. Most of the commercial (cheap) tomahawks are OK for throwing contests, not much good for real work. Only a fool would throw away a good axe. Get a good one from a smith who's done the research and who makes a good product at a fair price. Dennis Miles is one of many good smiths I've known, there's probably more than a score of us on this list that carry one of his axes. I don't have a source for gourds and such, as far as canteen size goes it depends on how much you are willing to carry and how long it may be until you find water again. One quart is pretty minimal. On average where conservation isn't a big concern I use about a gallon a day. Sometimes more if'n there's pretty women in camp to wash up for. Old mold blown glass bottles make excellent water jugs a quart is about the largest practical size. Blanket or rawhide covers help limit breakage. Mules can instantly stomp any canteen flat. I've currently got a 1 gallon tinned copper canteen Rotten Randy made that Padre sells regularly at a pretty good price. I've used up 4 one gallon pie plate side blanket cover tin canteens over the years. A one gallon canteen ain't much good for backpacking, but, this are mountain men. The porcelain over steel foreign military canteens are great if the porcelain inside hasn't started cracking off and breaking away, then they get real nasty. I've not found one that the inner porcelain was intact. During the period we study canteens weren't much used, they (the old timers) could drink most any water they found, they (the trappers) followed water to get where they were going. When they needed to transport water they could make a carrier from the belly or bladder of one animal or another. These have a fairly limited service life before they get skanky. John... Note: I've pretty much always carried a compass can't remember ever really needing it. At 09:15 AM 3/28/02, you wrote: >Been lurking awhile. >Can folks suggest a "reasonable" price source >for gourds - bowls, dippers and canteen size. > >and tomahawks.?? >Blades for the hawks would be enough - >I can make a handle. >I would like functional use before authentic manufacture >as a critereia. >---------------------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the Body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind . . . Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." - --Thomas Jefferson, Letter to his nephew Peter Carr, August 19, 1785. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:33:43 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: #114 Newhouse In a message dated 3/28/02 2:10:59 PM, windwalker@fastmail.fm writes: << Ive got 14 dozen of them.. the ole style with teeth..... once trapped wolf up north Windwalker >> Hey Windwalker.... What do you reckon them Newhouse 114's would sell for now? I've got only one..(with teeth) but it's new...or at least never been used. Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:12:25 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: #114 Newhouse Haven't checked Magpie.. Got a few straight Newhouse #14,s also. Lord so much I still retain, I ought to go laying steel again. Used alot of #330 Connibear for beaver up north.. And still have alot of ole hoop sticks. Alot of mine I bought from Herters and Hudson Bay Co years ago I just looked in shed. alot of the trap pans have "Hudson Bay" on them Ya know 37 yrs ago , one could walk into Yellowknife , with a letter of credit and walk out with a winters grubstake in hand...Not to be repaid till spring.. Now I fear its a thing of the past on most ole ways. Tried looking at a marbles brass compass now? that goes on lapel? Or a Marbles hunting knife? Them days did shine.. Windwalker *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/28/02 at 5:33 PM SWcushing@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 3/28/02 2:10:59 PM, windwalker@fastmail.fm writes: > ><< Ive got 14 dozen of them.. the ole style with teeth..... once trapped >wolf >up north >Windwalker >> > >Hey Windwalker.... What do you reckon them Newhouse 114's would sell for >now? >I've got only one..(with teeth) but it's new...or at least never been= used. > >Magpie > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:25:11 EST From: HikingOnThru@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks In a message dated 3/29/02 1:30:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, JimInTexas1962@aol.com writes: << Cant help you with gords but as for hawks,find a JB brand and you got a good'un! they run from $25.00 to $30.00 and are good quality >> I dunno if you have a local machine shop, but a I go to a flea market near my home where a fellow who works in a machine shop sells stuff made from scrap metal. I got a 'hawk that has the cutting edge of steel sandwiched in iron in period style. I actually bought 3 - one that was "camp-axe" square and another that is "squaw hawk" light and my most commonly used hawk in eastern woodland style. Grand total for all three fitted with carved handles....$27.00. Sutlers are good, but you can save time, money and avoid the generic look (that most of my group associates with nylon tents under a painters drop tarp, t/c caplock hawkens, coleman coolers and red-wing boots at events). Yours will be unique and you have to put a little effort and thinking into acquiring your stuff. I had to rummage through quite a number of vendors before finding this guy. And now I have a contact who will make me stuff to my specs cheaper than I can order hawks or knives. And he is interested in the occassional tidbit about period styles of tools. Everyone benefits and lots of fun is had by all!!! - -C.Kent - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 06:09:52 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: #114 Newhouse > > In a message dated 3/28/02 2:10:59 PM, windwalker@fastmail.fm writes: > > << Ive got 14 dozen of them.. the ole style with teeth..... once > trapped wolf up north > Windwalker >> > > Hey Windwalker.... What do you reckon them Newhouse 114's would sell > for now? I've got only one..(with teeth) but it's new...or at least > never been used. > > Magpie > 114 Newhouses are worth , in good shape, from $100-$125. I have bought them for $50 before however. Generally used traps sell for the amount of their size. A #1 for one dollar, a #4 for four dollars etc. Though you would be lucky to get a good #4 for four dollars, these generally run from $5-$15 a piece with $10. This method is used to establish a base price. Rare or unusual traps of course go for much more. There are good trap buying guides. Handforged origiinals came in no number sizes but weights and can get very pricey. I've paid between $50.- $250 apiece for hand forged traps! Used traps should always be seen before purchasing to avoid buying worn out traps. Sincerely, Greg > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 02:53:29 EST From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Gourds and Hawks - --part1_15d.b65f72a.29d57779_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/28/2002 2:08:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, drsimm@juno.com writes: > Can folks suggest a "reasonable" price source for gourds - bowls, dippers > and canteen size. and tomahawks.?? Try www.crazycrow.com. They have gourds, canteens, hawks and all type of other accoutrements. Also, it would be appreciated by all if you'd give us a small introduction of yourself and sign your posts. Thanks, Barney - --part1_15d.b65f72a.29d57779_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/28/2002 2:08:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, drsimm@juno.com writes:


Can folks suggest a "reasonable" price source for gourds - bowls, dippers and canteen size. and tomahawks.??


Try www.crazycrow.com.  They have gourds, canteens, hawks and all type of other accoutrements.   Also, it would be appreciated by all if you'd give us a small introduction of yourself and sign your posts.  Thanks,  Barney



 - --part1_15d.b65f72a.29d57779_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 01:35:27 EST From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Liver-eatin johnston In a message dated 3/28/02 11:29:27 PM, dorman.nelson@worldnet.att.net writes: <> Are you saying we have got to change his tombstone? Dang! that was expensive. Sincerely Richard James (Pallbearer to the Liver-Eater) - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:06:15 -0600 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: youth rifle monty--- contact me off list if you want a underhammer---they make good kids rifles and starter guns and you can order a extra butstock for them so they can use forever--- "HAWK" Michael Pierce Home of "Old Grizz Products" & "the Arkansas Under Hammers" 854 Glenfield Dr. Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone:1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:33:55 EST From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: buffalo recipes - --part1_e6.25995e1b.29d69a33_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been reviewing Montana-wyoming Buffalo company's buffalo meat, and want to order some. My question to the list. What are your favorite meals using buffalo meat. I would like some one pot possibly two item dishes. I am thinking buffalo stew meat and wild rice and possible some stew, would love you hear your favorite dishes. Frank Odessa,Texas - --part1_e6.25995e1b.29d69a33_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been reviewing Montana-wyoming Buffalo company's buffalo  meat, and want to order some.  My question to the list.  What are your favorite meals using buffalo meat.  I would like some one pot possibly two item dishes.  I am thinking buffalo stew meat and wild  rice and possible some stew,  would love you hear your favorite dishes.

Frank
Odessa,Texas - --part1_e6.25995e1b.29d69a33_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:07:39 -0700 (MST) From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: MtMan-List: From: Windwalker If you have 14 dozen #114 Newhouse traps in good shape, your sitting on a lot of money. I personally would never sell a good trap. I use #4's double long springs almost exclusively on beaver and otter. I wish I had every Blake & Lamb #4 I could get my hands on. Victor #4's are just fine on beaver and otter. I would never use any trap smaller than a #4 on beaver or otter. Marble's compasses and knives are being made again. Check marblearms.com Original Marble's knive's, compasses, match safes etc can still be purchased but can be pricey. Only a few die hard trappers know about Marble's stuff. Different trapping era. Beaverboy. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:05:47 -0700 From: "Gretchen H. Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Youth Rifle Mr Monty: My sons are still too young to have purchased guns for but I have asked around, knowing I will there some day. I will pass on this bit from a father a passle of kids. He said that most rifle makers use the same barrel outer size for 45, 50 or 54 caliber so the larger caliber just makes the barrel lighter and the kick is not a whole lot different. The kick has several factors but at light loads the amount of powder is pretty significant. He suggested getting an older rifle and cutting the stock down and possibly the barrel length. He also let his kids shoot from rest until they could handle the weight of the barrel. I personally like this idea even for older kids. I believe it helps the shooter gain confidence in the rifle then they are better prepared to shoot freehand. For What its Worth Wynn Ormond p monty wrote: > Hello All, > > I am wanting to give my son a muzzyloader for his B-day. He'll be 14 > and he's not real big. I think it needs to be a youth or ladies model. > But I do want him to be able to shoot & hunt w/it for a few years. > I am very open to suggestions and ideas or if anyone has one for sale > please let me know. > > Thanks > Paul Montgomery #1801 > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 21:16:11 -0700 From: Joe Brandl Subject: Re: MtMan-List: buffalo recipes - --============_-1194660722==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Contact the Nat Bison Assoc. in Denver, they publish the Bison News Magazine and have hundreds of buffalo recipes. joe - -- Please visit our web site @ www.absarokawesterndesign.com Call us for spring discounts on hair on deer and elk skins Great selection of elk and buffalo rawhide in stock - --============_-1194660722==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: MtMan-List: buffalo recipes
Contact the Nat Bison Assoc. in Denver, they publish the Bison News Magazine and have hundreds of buffalo recipes.

joe
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- --============_-1194660722==_ma============-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 09:29:42 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: From: Thanks Found Marbles... lord them knives have some powerful memory's Ordering couple lapel compasses..... Yep always use big traps on beaver... Although the connibears do excellent for pole sets...Just never get eyr hand caught in one.. another item I have is the ole Duluth Canoe Pack with trumpline.. they still make them...for treking.. far better than most found now... Did a search on ebay on Marbles knives.... lots and lots there A canvas tent, marbles or Arocrombie & Fitch cooking gear and equipment a pound of Cains Coffee and some saltport.. Ah now that a good setting for camp..Dont forget the Hudson Bay Axe in "woods" style. And one knows to bring the reflector oven "I have 4 patterns for different= ones. And they work excellent. as to being a ole die hard...... well I guess so.... made a major part of= my income for many a year doing it...and full time... And in the garage hangs my 1949 Oldtown Guides Model wood and canvas Canoe grin... ah them times shine indeed Windwalker *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 3/29/02 at 6:07 PM owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com wrote: >Windwalker > If you have 14 dozen #114 Newhouse traps in good shape, your sitting >on a lot of money. I personally would never sell a good trap. > I use #4's double long springs almost exclusively on beaver and otter. >I wish I had every Blake & Lamb #4 I could get my hands on. Victor #4's >are just fine on beaver and otter. I would never use any trap smaller than >a #4 on beaver or otter. > Marble's compasses and knives are being made again. Check >marblearms.com Original Marble's knive's, compasses, match safes etc can >still be purchased but can be pricey. Only a few die hard trappers know >about Marble's stuff. Different trapping era. > Beaverboy. > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1012 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.