From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1016 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Saturday, April 6 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1016 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Trailblazer Jim Beckwourth (Non-Period Question) -       Re: MtMan-List: traps -       Re: MtMan-List: traps -       Re: MtMan-List: traps -       Re: MtMan-List: powderhorns -       MtMan-List: Double barrel (off topic) -       Re: MtMan-List: tipis and tents -       Re: MtMan-List: Trailblazer Jim Beckwourth (Non-Period Question) -       Re: MtMan-List: Medallions -       Re: MtMan-List: Double barrel (off topic) -       Re: MtMan-List: powderhorns -       MtMan-List: Fire Piston history correct -       Re: MtMan-List: traps -       Re: MtMan-List: traps -       Re: MtMan-List: traps -       MtMan-List: Period firearm needed -       Re: MtMan-List: powderhorns -       MtMan-List: The West of Alfred Jacob Miller -       MtMan-List: Too Quiet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 02:55:17 EST From: Casapy123@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trailblazer Jim Beckwourth (Non-Period Question) "It was the latter end of April when we entered upon an extensive valley..." is the closest Bonner gives to a date of discovery for Beclwourth Pass. While there is some controversy as to whether it was 1850 or 1851, Author Elinor Wilson leans toward 1850. Jim Hardee, AMM #1676 Beckwourht Country - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 22:50:03 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: traps > ethical in > his harvest and think of the ability of the young to live > independently> > > C. > Thanks for the tips. I try to be an eithical hunter, now wannabe > trapper, and would only take what is in season. Exception probably > would be coyotes. We have way too many, I would trap and dispatch to > control population. > Minks?> > I don't believe this stream has any beaver although we have them in > the > region. Bobcat, fox, coon, coyotes and feral dogs are most probable. > Even a mountain lion is not out of the question but I would have to > check laws on legality of that first. > But being an inexperienced trapper, I do wonder how I would set a > catamount free if one was caught in the trap but not legal to keep. > Frank G. Fusco Frank, Most game have not given birth, yet. most trapping seasons end before any animals give birth. I trap everything that is open but usually what is a nusance to the landowners. This is why I said you should forget about trapping this season and concentrate on next season. You need to take a trapper education class offered by most states ,I believe, and or your state trapping association. This will give you Trappers ED 101. This is not something to be learned over the internet. Even other trappers are very secretive in thier methods. Take a course or find a good trapper who is willing to take the time to show the right way. I have been a trapper for 25+ years and bought fur for 15 years this does take time and is a big responsibilty on the trappers part. I've seen just about every mistake in trapping and fur handling in those years and I made a lot of them myself. I wish I had taken a course or found a good trapper early on to help me out. Don't get in a big rush to set traps. Take the course (most are one or two days only) and join your trapping associaton. Subsribe to FUR-Fish- Game and The Trapper and Predator Caller. Trapping is a very important management tool and a lot of fun in the great outdoors. You'll have a blast next fall and winter and you'll learn more about animals then you ever did before. Sincerely , Greg (beaverboy) ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 10:02:34 -0800 From: ALAN AVERY Subject: Re: MtMan-List: traps "... But being an inexperienced trapper, I do wonder how I would set a catamount free if one was caught in the trap..." ...VERY carefully!! Black Knife Alan - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 12:45:35 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: traps Well Im going to jump into this I highly agree with Greg. And I myself have trapped going on 50+ yrs.. Both as professional {in ole days} and hobby. I would urge you to take a trapping class highly.. the ATA has classes bout everywhere.. Also State clubs do also... Most states now require new trappers to take a course and I highly agree with it... If you trapping for the lure of "big money" forget it!!! If you have a true love of the land and outdoors its a great lifestyle. This time of year for most areas is WAY to late for prime fur,,, My advise is to wait till next year...Do some summer trapper tasks... hunt some herbs to sell Make packbackets.....This time of year a trapper is finished for= the most part.. although alot of seasons are still in... {just because a season is in dont= mean trap em all out} Leave the young for new years as seed... Ive went into areas my self that had prime skins... But declined to trap= them out as the population appeaed to be low...Why trap a area out?? I myself hit areas hard first part of season.... then pull out.. and i make= no bones about it... Ive had upwards of 400 rats first 2 weeks of season form longlining.. then= i move on... And forget the "mountain lion" fer now.... takes alot of practice to trap= cats... and there are few left to trap.. I would never trap a area that has "just a few" beaver in it... let em= build up..... Beg borrow or other or subscribe to Fur-Fish-Game mag... its the trappers= monthly bible... One of the best books you can get bar none is Trapping North American= Furbearers by Stanley Hawbaker available from Fur-Fish_ Game... also spring summer is time to build up grubstake for winter trapping= season... Obtaining canoe ect.... There is a whole lot more to trapping than just "setting steel" learn how to use the carcusses as not to have nay waste form the= critter..... learn each and everyone of the animals your after... in all seasons.... Now is the time to pick up the backpack and do yer spring scouting... Now is the time to secure WRITTEN permission from.. landowners to trap= coming season.... Do alittle work for them FREE if it looks like good area... Ive harvested a many a acre of corn with a picker , just to be able to= trap on 1000 acre plot... Trapping if one does it right is a full time sport/hobby....... so much to= do in th off season.... Check out the fur buyers in area and learn thier tricks...Ever know how= they average your furs??? so "you think" you done well??? If you cant find a ole sourdough trapper to learn from I highly advise= getting all the books you can.... Most trappers use the Muzzleloading rondys now to have summer frolic...Note= thats the ones that do trap.... secure via permit a area from state for trapping... Lord knows running a= line 25 miles on foot is a pleasure indeed.. if you gear up right and plan to stay out.... Nothing better than walking a line, getting your skins then settling in to= a evening camp... to scrape.. and care of skins... Cache em up for trip back.... Nothing better than a winter camp cooking marsh rabbit {muskrat} or beaver= tail for dinner and a mess of bannock bread pan fried or done in the reflector oven... Start making your skinning knives,, and stretchers if need be... If you plan to deep water trap Obtain a canoe...and learn how to safely use= it... Tis a fine day when you see your outfit loaded up for a 3 week trip "a trapping'... Get if all possible the entire Hardings Historical Books Collection....= they are invaluable for trappers.... from Fur-Fish-Game also a excellent book called Cache Lake Country "Life in the Northwoods" by= John J Rowlands gives a excellent view of "year around" trappers life in 1940,s era... I could go on and on... Get and read as many books you can by Rutstrum, Olson, Nessmuk, Kephart,= Angier, Gravik,Harding, Hawbaker And learn Camping skills ans Woodslore! And learn all the outdoors skills you can, as you will need them at some= point trapping.... And dont forget.... leave them young and even the primes there if you seee= little in area.. nothing worsr than taking all of them out.... thereby ruining all for next years= woodsman... just my thoughts... S.Windwalker *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/3/02 at 10:50 PM beaverboy@sofast.net wrote: >> > ethical in >> his harvest and think of the ability of the young to live >> independently> >> >> C. >> Thanks for the tips. I try to be an eithical hunter, now wannabe >> trapper, and would only take what is in season. Exception probably >> would be coyotes. We have way too many, I would trap and dispatch to >> control population. >> > Minks?> >> I don't believe this stream has any beaver although we have them in >> the >> region. Bobcat, fox, coon, coyotes and feral dogs are most probable. >> Even a mountain lion is not out of the question but I would have to >> check laws on legality of that first. >> But being an inexperienced trapper, I do wonder how I would set a >> catamount free if one was caught in the trap but not legal to keep. >> Frank G. Fusco > >Frank, > Most game have not given birth, yet. most trapping seasons end before >any animals give birth. I trap everything that is open but usually what is >a nusance to the landowners. This is why I said you should forget about >trapping this season and concentrate on next season. You need to take a >trapper education class offered by most states ,I believe, and or your >state trapping association. This will give you Trappers ED 101. This is >not something to be learned over the internet. Even other trappers are >very secretive in thier methods. Take a course or find a good trapper who >is willing to take the time to show the right way. I have been a trapper >for 25+ years and bought fur for 15 years this does take time and is a big >responsibilty on the trappers part. I've seen just about every mistake in >trapping and fur handling in those years and I made a lot of them myself. >I wish I had taken a course or found a good trapper early on to help me >out. Don't get in a big rush to set traps. Take the course (most are one >or two days only) and join your trapping associaton. Subsribe to FUR-Fish- >Game and The Trapper and Predator Caller. Trapping is a very important >management tool and a lot of fun in the great outdoors. You'll have a >blast next fall and winter and you'll learn more about animals then you >ever did before. > Sincerely , Greg (beaverboy) ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 09:59:39 -0800 From: ALAN AVERY Subject: Re: MtMan-List: powderhorns I've been too long living in the settlements lad, I'm getting old and fat! Need to spend more time in the mountains! I think your book idea is a really good one, too many pilgrims don't get the right info, and end up with bad, non pc horns. It's great for them to want to make them, but if they're going to invest the time, they should do it right! (hell, I'd buy a copy too!) Watch yer top knot, Black Knife Alan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "CrookedHand" To: Sent: April 3, 2002 5:38 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: powderhorns > Thanks Allan.... I heard that little acorn snap under yer heavy little > foot.. and the breathin... whatcha been eatin, bro? heh.. tole the boy to > contact me off list.. glad to help.... was SERIOUSLY thinking of doing a > book this year with pics instead of diagrams.. what think ye? > > Mark "CrookedHand" Toigo > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/8699 > http://www.alltel.net/~chand/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:49:46 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Sega Subject: MtMan-List: Double barrel (off topic) - --0-452983571-1017938986=:71751 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Some of the recent posts have gotten me thinking about a gun my dad got back in the 60's. Its a double barreled, external hammer cartridge gun with damascus barrels, intended for bp. its marked LaClede (sp?) Belgium on the top. Is that barrel worth a damn?. I know that the locks are in pretty bad shape. and the fit is sloppy throughout. Just curious SWcushing@aol.com wrote: I just picked up another set of "twist" 12ga barrels on the cheap. What's interesting about them, is one barrel has a distinct, but somewhat faint, set of 12 flats inside the bore for the entire length! Can't say I've ever seen anything like it before, nor do I know why it would be that way....any idea boys? The other barrel is appears normally smooth.... Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax - --0-452983571-1017938986=:71751 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Some of the recent posts have gotten me thinking about a gun my dad got back in the 60's.  Its a double barreled, external hammer cartridge gun with damascus barrels, intended for bp.  its marked LaClede (sp?) Belgium on the top.  Is that barrel worth a damn?.  I know that the locks are in pretty bad shape. and the fit is sloppy throughout.  Just curious 

  SWcushing@aol.com wrote:

I just picked up another set of "twist" 12ga barrels on the cheap. What's
interesting about them, is one barrel has a distinct, but somewhat faint, set
of 12 flats inside the bore for the entire length! Can't say I've ever seen
anything like it before, nor do I know why it would be that way....any idea
boys? The other barrel is appears normally smooth....

Magpie

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Theses tents have a lot of live left in them after 10 years of use. my opinion. hardtack > [Original Message] > From: Jim Lindberg > For a new tipi or tent I would recommend: > > Spring Valley Lodges > N3515 Highway F > Brodhead, WI 53520 > - --- Randal Bublitz - --- rjbublitz@earthlink.net we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fathers, we are Borrowing it from ou - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 06:42:02 -0800 (PST) From: Ronald Schrotter Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Trailblazer Jim Beckwourth (Non-Period Question) Jon, according to his autobiography (as told to Thomas D. Bonner) all Beckwourth says is "It was in the latter end of April that we entered upon an extensive valley at the northwest extremity of the Sierra range" As he earlier stated that he had taken the steamer "California" from Monterey to Stockton in April of 1849, and that it was the following spring I take it he discovered the pass in late April of 1850. I hope this helps. Since Beckwourth himself does not give a specific date I would not think one is available. Dog - --- Jon Marinetti wrote: > Is it recorded or written anywhere on what specific > day (April 1850 or > 1851) did he discover the historic pass thru the > Sierra Nevada Mtns > during the California Gold Rush? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > from Michigan > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 05:44:51 -0800 (PST) From: Ronald Schrotter Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Medallions Les, you might try contacting the booshway for Bridger Rendezvous and find out who is making theirs this year. I don't know who he is this year, but you can call the museum at Bridger and find out contact info. Good luck, DOG, Lyman, Wyo. - --- Les Chaffin wrote: > I am looking for a source to get a medallion made > for an upcoming > rendezvous. > > -- > Yours In Scouting > Les > > > > Leslie E. Chaffin > Green River, Wyoming > District Executive > Pilot Butte District > Platte River District > Trapper Trails Council > "I use to be a Beaver" > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:05:59 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Double barrel (off topic) In a message dated 4/4/02 1:27:39 PM, chrissega1@yahoo.com writes: << Its a double barreled, external hammer cartridge gun with damascus barrels, intended for bp. its marked LaClede (sp?) Belgium on the top. Is that barrel worth a damn?. >> Hi Chris... If the barrel is marked "LeFever" it is/or was. a pretty high quality gun. The barrels in good shape, would only be worth something to a guy that wants to convert them to a muzzle loader, and even then you don't know if they're any good untill you proof them with at least a double charge... Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 18:10:16 -0600 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: powderhorns crooked hand---put me on the list for a copy if you do---might even contribute with a few pictures of the cheep original day horns i have---probably 25 or 30 of them---if that would help--- hawk--- On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 20:38:30 -0500 "CrookedHand" writes: > Thanks Allan.... I heard that little acorn snap under yer heavy > little > foot.. and the breathin... whatcha been eatin, bro? heh.. tole the > boy to > contact me off list.. glad to help.... was SERIOUSLY thinking of > doing a > book this year with pics instead of diagrams.. what think ye? > > Mark "CrookedHand" Toigo > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/8699 > http://www.alltel.net/~chand/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ALAN AVERY" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:39 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: powderhorns > > > > "...I'm just starting to get into muzzleloading, and would like to > build > my > > own accoutrments, starting with a powderhorn. Could someone > direct me to > > some good resources that may have tips on how to accomplish this? > > Thanks..." > > > > > > Well, first you find a bull with some nice horns. Then you sneak > up behind > > him REALLY QUIETLY with a hacksaw... > > > > seriously, try: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/8699/ He > knows a > > thing or two about powder horns. > > > > > > Black Knife > > > > Alan > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > "HAWK" Michael Pierce Home of "Old Grizz Products" & "the Arkansas Under Hammers" 854 Glenfield Dr. Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone:1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 18:01:08 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: MtMan-List: Fire Piston history correct - --=====_101796126826500=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has any reference been found as to if the early mountain man, ever carried= a Fire Piston? Its within the time frame, and was used in early Virginia. I know books always refer to flint/steel... But I believe HBC sold a early= piston... Anybody have info on such? Windwalker - --=====_101796126826500=_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Has any reference been found as to if the early mountain man, ever carried a Fire Piston?
Its within the time frame, and was used in early Virginia.
I know books always refer to flint/steel... But I believe HBC sold a early piston...
Anybody have info on such?
Windwalker
- --=====_101796126826500=_-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 15:06:01 -0800 From: ALAN AVERY Subject: Re: MtMan-List: traps "...Nothing better than walking a line, getting your skins then settling in to a evening camp... to scrape.. and care of skins... Cache em up for trip back.... Nothing better than a winter camp cooking marsh rabbit {muskrat} or beaver tail for dinner and a mess of bannock bread pan fried or done in the reflector oven..." Damn Windwalker, when do we leave???!!! Reading your post really got the old juices flowin' to chuck the "civilized" life, load up and head out!! ...just thought I'd mention how much I enjoyed your post. Watch yer topknot! Black Knife - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 15:39:30 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: traps Here is a URL and gives some of the best info there is... http://www.wild-about-trapping.com/ *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/3/02 at 10:50 PM beaverboy@sofast.net wrote: >> > ethical in >> his harvest and think of the ability of the young to live >> independently> >> >> C. >> Thanks for the tips. I try to be an eithical hunter, now wannabe >> trapper, and would only take what is in season. Exception probably >> would be coyotes. We have way too many, I would trap and dispatch to >> control population. >> > Minks?> >> I don't believe this stream has any beaver although we have them in >> the >> region. Bobcat, fox, coon, coyotes and feral dogs are most probable. >> Even a mountain lion is not out of the question but I would have to >> check laws on legality of that first. >> But being an inexperienced trapper, I do wonder how I would set a >> catamount free if one was caught in the trap but not legal to keep. >> Frank G. Fusco - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 10:46:56 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: traps In honest, Im thinking of running a line or winter camp on the upper= Missouri this winter or next All via canoe.. Might want a partner or two....Im open to areas... as long= as they are along water... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/4/02 at 3:06 PM ALAN AVERY wrote: >"...Nothing better than walking a line, getting your skins then settling >in >to a evening camp... to scrape.. >and care of skins... Cache em up for trip back.... >Nothing better than a winter camp cooking marsh rabbit {muskrat} or= beaver >tail for dinner and a mess >of bannock bread pan fried or done in the reflector oven..." > > >Damn Windwalker, when do we leave???!!! > >Reading your post really got the old juices flowin' to chuck the >"civilized" life, load up and head out!! > >..just thought I'd mention how much I enjoyed your post. > > >Watch yer topknot! > >Black Knife > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 13:43:38 EST From: HikingOnThru@cs.com Subject: MtMan-List: Period firearm needed Hello Camp! I am need of a period firearm for the F&I era. No particulars. I am looking for a a cheap gun till my tulle is finished in Dec. for a number of reenactments till then. Can be dinged and scratched (not prefer cracked but if not too bad will consider), barrel can be shot out, etc. This is just something for me to carry onto the reenactment field and bang around with. Just so long as it makes a spark to ignite powder in the pan. Even a period pistol would do in a pinch...repro, whatever. If anyone can help me out or point me in the right direction to find something like this please let me know!!! Feel free to respond offlist! - -C.Kent - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 22:08:21 -0500 From: "CrookedHand" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: powderhorns hey! Great idea...... we'll talk! Mark "CrookedHand" Toigo http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/8699 http://www.alltel.net/~chand/ - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:10 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: powderhorns > crooked hand---put me on the list for a copy if you do---might even > contribute with a few pictures of the cheep original day horns i > have---probably 25 or 30 of them---if that would help--- > > hawk--- > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 20:38:30 -0500 "CrookedHand" > writes: > > Thanks Allan.... I heard that little acorn snap under yer heavy > > little > > foot.. and the breathin... whatcha been eatin, bro? heh.. tole the > > boy to > > contact me off list.. glad to help.... was SERIOUSLY thinking of > > doing a > > book this year with pics instead of diagrams.. what think ye? > > > > Mark "CrookedHand" Toigo > > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/8699 > > http://www.alltel.net/~chand/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "ALAN AVERY" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:39 PM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: powderhorns > > > > > > > "...I'm just starting to get into muzzleloading, and would like to > > build > > my > > > own accoutrments, starting with a powderhorn. Could someone > > direct me to > > > some good resources that may have tips on how to accomplish this? > > > Thanks..." > > > > > > > > > Well, first you find a bull with some nice horns. Then you sneak > > up behind > > > him REALLY QUIETLY with a hacksaw... > > > > > > seriously, try: http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/8699/ He > > knows a > > > thing or two about powder horns. > > > > > > > > > Black Knife > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > ---------------------- > > > hist_text list info: > > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: > > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > "HAWK" > Michael Pierce Home of "Old Grizz Products" & "the Arkansas Under > Hammers" > 854 Glenfield Dr. > Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone:1-727-771-1815 > e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site: > http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 20:10:20 -0700 From: Todd Glover Subject: MtMan-List: The West of Alfred Jacob Miller This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ----__JNP_000_497d.5a2c.797d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All, Once again I have been lucky enough to obtain a copy of "The West of Alfred Jacob Miller." This is a first edition, hard bound book published in 1951. The book is in excellent condition both inside and out. Shows no sign of rubbing on the spine or edges. It does not have a dust cover. This book is an absolute must in your library if you are a fan or scholar of the western fur trade. As I did before, I'd like to auction this book off. I will keep my cost and send the rest to the AMM land fund. So the winner not only gets an excellent book, but also the satisfaction of helping pay for the land. I will begin taking bids now and will close the bidding next Friday night the 12th at 8:00 p.m. Mountain time. During the week I will post periodic updates of the highest bid. Good luck. Let the bidding begin..... "Teton" Todd D. Glover #1784 http://poisonriverparty.homestead.com - ----__JNP_000_497d.5a2c.797d Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello All,
 
Once again I have been lucky enough to obtain a copy of  "The= West=20 of Alfred Jacob Miller."
This is a first edition, hard bound book published in 1951. The book = is in=20 excellent condition both inside and out. Shows no sign of rubbing on the = spine=20 or edges. It does not have a dust cover. This book is an absolute must in = your=20 library if you are a fan or scholar of the western fur trade.
As I did before, I'd like to auction this book off. I will keep = my=20 cost and send the rest to the AMM land fund. So the winner not only gets an= =20 excellent book, but also the satisfaction of helping pay for the=20 land. 
 
I will begin taking bids now and will close the bidding next Friday = night=20 the 12th at 8:00 p.m. Mountain time.
During the week I will post periodic updates of the highest bid. Good= =20 luck.
 
Let the bidding begin.....

"Teton" Todd D. Glover #1784
http://poisonriverparty.= homestead.com
- ----__JNP_000_497d.5a2c.797d-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 06 Apr 2002 20:12:29 -0700 From: Phyllis and Don Keas Subject: MtMan-List: Too Quiet Since things have been sort of quiet for a while now, here goes: Been looking at Alfred Jacob Miller's paintings and noticed something. = Look at his painting titled "Our Camp". In the right hand side, is that = a drawing of a one pole tent? I don't see any smoke flaps nor a bonnet of = poles. So is it or isn't it in 1837? The original hangs in the museum in Cody, so if anyone wants to go look at = it, who knows? Nothing like stirring things up. Don - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1016 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.