From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1024 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, April 25 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1024 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: gun cases -       Re: MtMan-List: gun cases -       Re: MtMan-List: More about Santa Anna -       MtMan-List: powder horn straps -       Re: MtMan-List: More about Santa Anna -       Re: MtMan-List: More about Santa Anna -       Re: MtMan-List: More about Santa Anna -       Re: MtMan-List: More about Santa Anna -       RE: MtMan-List: gun cases -       Re: MtMan-List: gun cases -       Re: MtMan-List: gun cases -       Re: MtMan-List: a mighty important 18 minutes -       Re: MtMan-List: a mighty important 18 minutes -       Re: MtMan-List: a mighty important 18 minutes -       MtMan-List: FW: List: New Auction Item -       MtMan-List: wool gun cases -       Re: MtMan-List: gun cases -       Re: MtMan-List: wool gun cases -       MtMan-List: K & K History Wagon Tours ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:48:38 -0400 From: "Berthiaume, Steve" Subject: MtMan-List: gun cases This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1EA36.B285D45D Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I received so much excellent advice regarding powder horns, I = figured I would approach this list with a new query. I need some sort = of case (or sleeve) to keep my rifle from getting to badly scratched in = the trunk of my car while going to and from the range. I have seen some = buckskin ones with fringe and that sort of thing, but is that what was = really used yesteryear? I thought about just stitching a wool blanket = to make a sleeve for the gun, but I'm not sure if that would be = considered "period" or not. Whaddya think? Thanks in advance. =20 =20 - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1EA36.B285D45D Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, I = received so much=20 excellent advice regarding powder horns, I figured I would approach this = list=20 with a new query.  I need some sort of case (or sleeve) to = keep my=20 rifle from getting to badly scratched in the trunk of my car while going = to and=20 from the range.  I have seen some buckskin ones with fringe and = that sort=20 of thing, but is that what was really used yesteryear?  I thought = about=20 just stitching a wool blanket to make a sleeve for the gun, but I'm not = sure if=20 that would be considered "period" or not.  Whaddya think?  = Thanks in=20 advance.
 
 
- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C1EA36.B285D45D-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 19:18:59 -0600 (MDT) From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: gun cases > Well, I received so much excellent advice regarding powder horns, I > figured I would approach this list with a new query. I need some sort > of case (or sleeve) to keep my rifle from getting to badly scratched in > the trunk of my car while going to and from the range. I have seen > some buckskin ones with fringe and that sort of thing, but is that what > was really used yesteryear? I thought about just stitching a wool > blanket to make a sleeve for the gun, but I'm not sure if that would be > considered "period" or not. Whaddya think? Thanks in advance. > > Gun cases were usually made of brain tanned buckskin. Fringe was not as common as you would think. A lot of that was the product of artist and Hollywood. I use a simple wool case that works just fine. You can sew one yourself out of a wool blanket but use a historically correct color such as white, or red, never candy stripe. Find a good source on colors of blankets used pre-1840. Your gun will get wet if you take it outdoors, it will also get scratched and beat up a little if you use it. "Buy it to use it" Good luck, Beaverboy - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:56:37 EDT From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: More about Santa Anna I remember reading Santa Anna was spared from being shot when the Texians were gathering those that fled, only because he had given a type of signal indicating he was a mason, but I cant seem to find it in my books. Frank Odessa, Texas - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:45:02 EDT From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: powder horn straps OK list, I use a buffalo powder horn, and currently have a braintan rolled whang used as a strap. I have been weaving (inkle loom) several hemp straps for others, would it be correct for me to use a 1 inch or 1.5 inch wide strap for my buffalo horn. thanks for your input Frank Odessa,Texas - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:48:13 EDT From: Hawkengun@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: More about Santa Anna And I hope it doesn't appear in any books! JR Sweet - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:50:02 -0400 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: More about Santa Anna Fear not, it shall not... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/22/02 at 10:48 PM Hawkengun@aol.com wrote: >And I hope it doesn't appear in any books! >JR Sweet > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:56:18 EDT From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: More about Santa Anna from what i read it just says he showed a sign, signal, or whatever and IT DOSENT SAY WHAT IT IS, so have no fear . no disrespect intended - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 23:10:17 -0400 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: More about Santa Anna a sign I will believe, and that is as it should be.... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/22/02 at 10:56 PM JOAQUINQS@aol.com wrote: >from what i read it just says he showed a sign, signal, or whatever and >IT >DOSENT SAY WHAT IT IS, so have no fear . > >no disrespect intended > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 20:30:55 -0700 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: gun cases
I'd recommend a blanket sleeve, it will breath (leather may cause rust) and it provides some slight padding.  The thicker the blanket the better.   my 2 cents   hardtack
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Well, I received so much excellent advice regarding powder horns, I figured I would approach this list with a new query.  I need some sort of case (or sleeve) to keep my rifle from getting to badly scratched in the trunk of my car while going to and from the range.  I have seen some buckskin ones with fringe and that sort of thing, but is that what was really used yesteryear?  I thought about just stitching a wool blanket to make a sleeve for the gun, but I'm not sure if that would be considered "period" or not.  Whaddya think?  Thanks in advance.
 
 

 
--- Randal Bublitz
we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fathers,
we are Borrowing it from our Children
 
- ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 22:30:08 -0600 From: Allen Hall Subject: Re: MtMan-List: gun cases At 03:48 PM 4/22/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Well, I received so much excellent advice regarding powder horns, I figured I would approach this list with a new query. I need some sort of case (or sleeve) to keep my rifle from getting to badly scratched in the trunk of my car while going to and from the range. I have seen some buckskin ones with fringe and that sort of thing, but is that what was really used yesteryear? I thought about just stitching a wool blanket to make a sleeve for the gun, but I'm not sure if that would be considered "period" or not. Whaddya think? Thanks in advance. Beaverboy and Hardtack had some good advice. I use a brain tan case/cover for mine. Learned a good trick from Yaro however. After you finish your leather case, hit it real good with a bear grease and beeswax mixture. That way when the gun comes in and out of the cover it give the gun a bit of oil/grease to help keep away the rust. It's worked good for me. Good luck, Allen in Fort Hall country - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:46:55 -0700 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: gun cases I makes sense to me Allen, now I'll have to try a gun case with my left over brain tan.... wait a minute, what left over brain tan...... My brain tan always seems to get used up real quick, not alot of left over. I do grease up my pistol holsters for this reason. See ya on the ground. Randy After you finish your > leather case, hit it real good with a bear grease and beeswax mixture. That > way when the gun comes in and out of the cover it give the gun a bit of > oil/grease to help keep away the rust. It's worked good for me. > > Good luck, > > Allen in Fort Hall country > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - --- Randal Bublitz - --- rjbublitz@earthlink.net we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fathers, we are Borrowing - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 12:48:37 -0500 From: Victoria Pate Subject: Re: MtMan-List: a mighty important 18 minutes On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 12:13:04 -0400 "Addison Miller" writes: > Also, to my understanding, because Texas was a "free" nation when it > applied to join the US as a State, they are the only state which can > legally ever secede from the United States. Hey Ad, I'm proud of you!! You're living up to your nickname "Tex" as to your understanding even though you aren't officially a Texan. You would fit right in with a group here in Texas called the Republic of Texas, who believe Texas can and _should _reestablish itself as an independent nation. >Is this a falicy or true? As for Texas being able to lawfully secede being a falicy (or fallacy as we Texians spell it ), it depends on how the original documents are interpreted. I found the data quite persuasive for lawful secession. How was the rendezvous in Georgia? Victoria - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 11:44:45 -0700 From: "rbkasin" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: a mighty important 18 minutes You mean we aren't an independent nation. When did this happen? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victoria Pate" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:48 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: a mighty important 18 minutes > > > On Sun, 21 Apr 2002 12:13:04 -0400 "Addison Miller" > writes: > > Also, to my understanding, because Texas was a "free" nation when it > > applied to join the US as a State, they are the only state which can > > legally ever secede from the United States. > > Hey Ad, > > I'm proud of you!! You're living up to your nickname "Tex" > as to your understanding even though you aren't officially > a Texan. > You would fit right in with a group here in Texas called > the > Republic of Texas, who believe Texas can and _should > _reestablish > itself as an independent nation. > > > >Is this a falicy or true? > As for Texas being able to lawfully secede being a falicy > (or fallacy as we Texians spell it ), it depends on how > the original documents are interpreted. I found the data > quite persuasive for lawful secession. > > How was the rendezvous in Georgia? > > Victoria > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:41:10 -0700 (PDT) From: George Noe Subject: Re: MtMan-List: a mighty important 18 minutes - --- > > > "Addison Miller" > writes: > > Also, to my understanding, because Texas was a > "free" nation when it > > applied to join the US as a State, they are the > only state which can > > legally ever secede from the United States. Ad. A history teacher told me he thought Texas lost that priviledge when the "South" lost the war, and rejoined the states. Don't NOE though. grn ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Games - play chess, backgammon, pool and more http://games.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 18:51:2 -0700 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: MtMan-List: FW: List: New Auction Item
 

Hello Brothers,  Crawdad just sent me an extra fancy spice horn as a Land Auction item.  Check it out at:  http://www.cartogra.com/home/ViewMyAlbum.asp?coll_id=1513822  Once on the site select 'look at my album' , then select a picture from the list or using the arrows.  If you want to make a bid either post a note on the first page of the site, or e-mail at the rjbublitz@earthlink.net.   We are accepting donated items for auction...  bring it to the National, or make arraingments with me.  Auction will be May  29, '02.   
We are up to about 12 auction items pictured.  There are items that will be at auction that I don't have pictures for.  This auction site was to give those who can't attend the National Rdvs. a chance at some of these fine items. 
    I want to thank every one for their interest, help, or at least for not sending me nasty notes telling me to stop bugging you all with this stuff ...<g>....   Your friend and brother,    Randy
 
--- Randal Bublitz
we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fathers,
we are Borrowing it from our Children
 

 
--- Randal Bublitz
we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fathers,
we are Borrowing it from our Children
 
-------------------- Aux Aliments de Pays! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:27:21 -0600 (MDT) From: Subject: MtMan-List: wool gun cases Dear List, The other gentlemen was right, cloth does breath much better when it comes to gun cases. I actually prefer my wool gun case to anything. But then I prefer wool to anything in all my gear. Beaverboy - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 22:44:39 -0600 From: Allen Hall Subject: Re: MtMan-List: gun cases Hardtack, It's worked out slick for me. Yaro knows a trick or two...... See ya on the Green! Allen At 09:46 PM 4/22/2002 -0700, you wrote: > >I makes sense to me Allen, now I'll have to try a gun case with my left >over brain tan.... wait a minute, what left over brain tan...... My >brain tan always seems to get used up real quick, not alot of left over. I >do grease up my pistol holsters for this reason. See ya on the ground. >Randy > > > After you finish your >> leather case, hit it real good with a bear grease and beeswax mixture. >That >> way when the gun comes in and out of the cover it give the gun a bit of >> oil/grease to help keep away the rust. It's worked good for me. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Allen in Fort Hall country >> >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > >--- Randal Bublitz >--- rjbublitz@earthlink.net >we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fathers, > we are Borrowing > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2002 10:01:00 -0500 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: wool gun cases a good wool blanket will make from 4 to 6 cases depending on how it is cut and if it is doubled or lined---best gun cases in my estimation---I like a canvis liner in the wool it helps to hold out the moisture yet will breath--they usually cost about $25.00 if you buy them---there is a mfg of ramrod tips here in ark that makes and sells them with a liner out of mexican blankets at that price---have 3 or 4 of them and they work good and machine sewed with heavy thread----the canvis also adds a bit of padding---I like a wang tie on them and the length long enough to fold back on the butstock---for a pattern lay the gun down on some brown paper sacks and then add about 2 in on eather side this is a half pattern for cutting---fold the blanket over and lay the pattern on the fold and cut away---add the liner and use a buck stitch to sew and its good for many years---had a friend that was a gunmaker many years ago and he used to make a sleeve out of carpet to ship his guns in just fold over the cun and buckstitch together---guns would arrive without scratches or dings or such worked god with the carpet---could do the same with a old worn pursan run and it would have some character to it---use a heavy cutting needle to sew with that can be bought at joanns fabricsand sew with strong yarn or string--- "HAWK" Michael Pierce Home of "Old Grizz Products" & "the Arkansas Under Hammers" 854 Glenfield Dr. Palm Harbor Florida 34684 Phone:1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 23:59:28 EDT From: Casapy123@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: K & K History Wagon Tours Hi Clay, Thought I'd let you know the next edition of the K&K History Wagon Tour will be the week of August 3-10. Mark Kelly and I plan to go back to Ashley's grave site among many other interesting fur trade sites and most likely the Archives in St. Louis. It'd sure be great if you could get away for a few days and join us. If the Fur Trade Research Center paid you air fare, could you join us? Jim - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1024 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.