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From: larry pendle= ton

Sent: Friday, May 17, 20= 02 5:00 PM

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Subject: Re:= MtMan-List: flint was expertise

as there is at le= ast one known, properly formed and identified deposit of
Flint in the = US.

Barney

>>Barney,
There is another, litt= le known deposit in Central Texas, near Brady I
think. It's on p= rivate prperty, and there is no access allowed.
LP

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- ------=_NextPart_001_000A_01C1FDF9.7ECE0700-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 09:46:15 -0600 (Mountain Daylight Time) From: "Gretchen & Wynn Ormond" Subject: MtMan-List: Dead Ducks Walked out to feed and check the animals this morning and have a couple of dead ducks. Around here we have a lot of hawks, owls, and buzzards, have also seen/tracked fox, racoon, skunk, coyote, and possibly stray dogs. The ground around the ducks is grassy or rather hard on the surface so there are few tracks. One duck showed signs of having been bitten around the neck; its nearly severed. The other was partially eaten. We still need to find 3 other ducks. Anyway, my question is if anyone will know which preditors are more likely to go after the neck like that? Wynn - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 12:11:06 -0400 From: "Double Edge Forge" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Dead Ducks Mink or ermine, both will kill for pure sport. D - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gretchen & Wynn Ormond" To: "Hist mail" Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Dead Ducks Walked out to feed and check the animals this morning and have a couple of dead ducks. Around here we have a lot of hawks, owls, and buzzards, have also seen/tracked fox, racoon, skunk, coyote, and possibly stray dogs. The ground around the ducks is grassy or rather hard on the surface so there are few tracks. One duck showed signs of having been bitten around the neck; its nearly severed. The other was partially eaten. We still need to find 3 other ducks. Anyway, my question is if anyone will know which preditors are more likely to go after the neck like that? Wynn - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 14:17:21 -0700 From: "Lee Newbill" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Dead Ducks Wynn The only time I've seen stock killed, and not completely eaten, is by feral animals, such as dogs. When we get hit with coons or coyotes, there is seldome a scrap to be found. Birds of prey will pluck and eat on the spot if the prey is too large to carry away, but there's always some evidence of their feeding, and I've never seen them go for more than one animal. I've read, and heard, that Mink will continue to attack as long as something is moving... that might be another suspect. They raise hell in a packed hen house. Regards Lee Newbill AMM #1821 http://users.potlatch.com/bluethistle/ http://www.mountaintoptradingco.com/ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Gretchen & Wynn Ormond Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 8:46 AM To: Hist mail Subject: MtMan-List: Dead Ducks Walked out to feed and check the animals this morning and have a couple of dead ducks. Around here we have a lot of hawks, owls, and buzzards, have also seen/tracked fox, racoon, skunk, coyote, and possibly stray dogs. The ground around the ducks is grassy or rather hard on the surface so there are few tracks. One duck showed signs of having been bitten around the neck; its nearly severed. The other was partially eaten. We still need to find 3 other ducks. Anyway, my question is if anyone will know which preditors are more likely to go after the neck like that? Wynn - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 17:18:05 -0400 From: "traprjon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Dead Ducks Hi Wynn, You didn't mention what part of the eaten duck was eaten. The reason I ask is because coon's start feeding on the breast meat of a bird after killing / biting the neck. K-9's have a bigger appetite and tear the bird apart eating most of it, making it difficult to say where he started. Mink and weasel kill the bird by biting the back of the head and start feeding there. They have small stomachs so don't eat much right after the kill, but will return for later meals. I would guess if you have missing ducks, and the partially eaten one wasn't torn up past what was eaten, you may have a family of coons to deal with. You also didn't mention if the ducks were in a pen and how they got out or the predator got in. K-9's tend to take killed food away to eat elsewhere and may not have left the partly eaten one for you to find. I know this isn't an exact answer, but it is hard to say without more information or seeing the damage done. In any event, if you plan to have a trapper catch the predator, the same (well tuned and well steaked) foot traps will catch either coon's or K-9's. Good luck. Sincerely, John Enos TrapRJohn traprjon@attbi.com **************************************************************** "The saddest epitaph which can be carved in memory of a vanished liberty, is that it was lost because it's possessors failed to stretch forth a saving hand, while yet there was time." -- Justice George Sutherland, 1938 **************************************************************** "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence. It is Force. And Force, like fire, is a Dangerous servant and a fearful master." -- George Washington - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gretchen & Wynn Ormond" To: "Hist mail" Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Dead Ducks Walked out to feed and check the animals this morning and have a couple of dead ducks. Around here we have a lot of hawks, owls, and buzzards, have also seen/tracked fox, racoon, skunk, coyote, and possibly stray dogs. The ground around the ducks is grassy or rather hard on the surface so there are few tracks. One duck showed signs of having been bitten around the neck; its nearly severed. The other was partially eaten. We still need to find 3 other ducks. Anyway, my question is if anyone will know which preditors are more likely to go after the neck like that? 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