From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1072 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, August 13 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1072 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Keelboat trips! -       Re: MtMan-List: Keelboat trips! -       FW: Re: MtMan-List: Keelboat trips! -       MtMan-List: fire power -       MtMan-List: Birchbark Canoes -       RE: MtMan-List: Blunderbusses -       Re: MtMan-List: Birchbark Canoes -       Re: MtMan-List: Birchbark Canoes -       Re: MtMan-List: Birchbark Canoes -       MtMan-List: Southwestern Horse Enthusiasts -       Re: MtMan-List: Southwestern Horse Enthusiasts -       Re: MtMan-List: Southwestern Horse Enthusiasts ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 13:46:49 -0700 From: JW Stephens Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Keelboat trips! Next year. This year there was "high use season" on the Seedskadee, but no high water. When we went through Ladore Canyon on 4 June the flow had already petered out (700 cfs 'sted of the usual 2000+). Even before that date the inflow to the reservoir above flaming gorge was 1/3 of usual. Hopefully the UMO did better. B'st'rd Wahkahchim@aol.com wrote: >=20 > When is high water? - --=20 =93What the world ... needs now ... is a mail client ... that bounces SPA= M. Back to the dark hole from whence it first reared its ugly head. Automati= cally.=94 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:54:18 -0600 From: "Gene Hickman" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Keelboat trips! Until this year's rain, high water was about 5 years ago. Spring through early summer is usually good water. It varies year to year but water starts falling to lower levels in August and September. Mr. Keelboat is the one to ask that question to though: keelboat@mtintouch.com he's got year's of experience down there. Gene "Bead Shooter" Hickman Helena, Montana - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Keelboat trips! > When is high water? > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 15:45:45 -0700 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: FW: Re: MtMan-List: Keelboat trips! > [Original Message] > From: Randal Bublitz > To: Gene Hickman > Date: 8/10/02 3:45:22 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Keelboat trips! > > I've canoed the Upper Missouri (white cliffs area) twice. May/June is high water. By July it's dropping fast. hardtack > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Gene Hickman > > To: > > Date: 8/10/02 1:54:18 PM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Keelboat trips! > > > > Until this year's rain, high water was about 5 years ago. Spring through > > early summer is usually good water. It varies year to year but water starts > > falling to lower levels in August and September. Mr. Keelboat is the one to > > ask that question to though: keelboat@mtintouch.com he's got year's of > > experience down there. > > > > Gene "Bead Shooter" Hickman > > Helena, Montana > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 1:11 PM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Keelboat trips! > > > > > > > When is high water? > > > > > > ---------------------- > > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > --- Randal Bublitz > --- rjbublitz@earthlink.net > we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fa - --- Randal Bublitz - --- rjbublitz@earthlink.net we have NOT inherited the Earth from ou - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:35:43 -0500 From: "Don & Janice Shero" Subject: MtMan-List: fire power just pondering what percentage of rifles carried to the mountains were (light) .40-.45 ish caliber. Is it possible these inexperienced and eastern woodlanders, these guys were poor range finders in the western mts. , they were used to some shooting, but relative close shooting back home in the forest, and out west blasted away targets at 200 yds + ? I don't recall much being said about shots listed in actual measureable distances. Don - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:06:42 -0600 From: Todd Glover Subject: MtMan-List: Birchbark Canoes Hello all, I just purchased a used Aluminum canoe and would like to "artifake" it by painting it to look like a birchbark. Does anyone have any good photos or links which would give me some ideas on how it should look? Thanks for any help or suggestions. "Teton" Todd D. Glover #1784 http://poisonriverparty.homestead.com/TetonTodd.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:40:46 -0700 From: "Daniel L. "Concho" Smith" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blunderbusses Hardtack, Buck Conner has a like new blunderbuss (original) that he picked up for a present for his father in the late 50's. After his father received it he checked the bore and found it was loaded, this is what's interesting. Buck has an old glass rolling pin used for baking that his father put the contents of the brass barreled blunderbuss in; 1st load removed was old cloth with a stripe print, small square cut nails and broken green glass, more of the same cloth, then very fine powder (like cigar ash) - 2nd load was similar patching/different print, a half dozen lead balls about 36 or 38 cal., a small handmade iron chain (8-9" long), more patching and then fine powder like first load removed. The lock is very large with a "French Amber" flint wrapped in leather and it still throws a shower of sparks. From the proof marks and inspector marks this blunderbuss belonged to the British Navy and has a pre-1760's date. Write him and see if he'll sent you a picture, it is a very nice piece. What a tipi sweeper this would have been in a mountain camp. Later Concho [HRD] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Historical Research & Development "ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/ Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/ See the AMM site for more supporters of this event. On Fri, 9 Aug 2002 9:3:14 -0 Randal Bublitz wrote: >Scatter guns were a popular item for the camp guard at night, also would >come in handy during an attack. an escopeta is a spanish smooth bore >carried by the spanish soldiers, etc... hardtack > > >> [Original Message] >> From: >> To: > > Date: 8/8/02 3:05:51 PM >> Subject: MtMan-List: Blunderbusses >> >> Why were they used as a camp tool by Mountain men? My family history >lists several in old records in California as "escopetas". What were they >for? >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > >--- Randal Bublitz >--- rjbublitz@earthlink.net >we have NOT inherited the Earth from our fathers, > we are Borrowing it from our Chil > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > __________________________________________________________ Win a First Class Trip to Hawaii to Vacation Elvis Style! http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail/http://www.elvis.lycos.com/sweepstakes - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:46:17 -0700 From: "Daniel L. "Concho" Smith" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Birchbark Canoes Todd, Contact Buck Conner, he has done a dozen of them made of aluminum to kelvar and they look good, he did a series years ago for the COHT on doing what you want, and I saw those photo's at his place a few months ago. He not on this list but you can contact him through the AMM site. Later Concho [HRD] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Historical Research & Development "ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/ Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/ See the AMM site for more supporters of this event. On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:06:42 Todd Glover wrote: >Hello all, > >I just purchased a used Aluminum canoe and would like to "artifake" it >by painting it to look like a birchbark. >Does anyone have any good photos or links which would give me some ideas >on how it should look? >Thanks for any help or suggestions. > >"Teton" Todd D. Glover #1784 >http://poisonriverparty.homestead.com/TetonTodd.html > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > __________________________________________________________ Win a First Class Trip to Hawaii to Vacation Elvis Style! http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail/http://www.elvis.lycos.com/sweepstakes - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 20:48:04 -0400 From: "John Hunt" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Birchbark Canoes Some years ago muzzleloader magazine had an article on the birch paint. If memory serves correct it had step by step instructions. Pictures that accompanied the article were decent looking. John (BIG JOHN) Hunt longhunter mountainman Southwest, Ohio - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel L. Concho Smith" To: Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 6:46 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Birchbark Canoes > Todd, > > Contact Buck Conner, he has done a dozen of them made of aluminum to kelvar and they look good, he did a series years ago for the COHT on doing what you want, and I saw those photo's at his place a few months ago. He not on this list but you can contact him through the AMM site. > > Later > > Concho [HRD] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Historical Research & Development > "ANISCHIK"(is how the Moravians saw it) THANK YOU. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Double Edge forge http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 > Buck's Base Camp: http://buckconner.tripod.com/ > Historical Research & Development: http://hrd7.tripod.com/ > > See the AMM site for more supporters of this event. > > > > > > On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 23:06:42 > Todd Glover wrote: > >Hello all, > > > >I just purchased a used Aluminum canoe and would like to "artifake" it > >by painting it to look like a birchbark. > >Does anyone have any good photos or links which would give me some ideas > >on how it should look? > >Thanks for any help or suggestions. > > > >"Teton" Todd D. Glover #1784 > >http://poisonriverparty.homestead.com/TetonTodd.html > > > >---------------------- > >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > Win a First Class Trip to Hawaii to Vacation Elvis Style! > http://r.lycos.com/r/sagel_mail/http://www.elvis.lycos.com/sweepstakes > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 21:31:21 EDT From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Birchbark Canoes - --part1_1ab.69b4715.2a8869e9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out these sites. There are pics of Algonquin, Mic Mac, Ojibwe, Mohawk, Aboriginal and a heap of others scattered throughout..... Hope this is of some help. Barney Squeedunk Period Correct Canoes & Kayaks Birch Bark Canoe Photo Gallery Birch Bark Canoe (Henry Vaillancourt) Bigfork Canoe Trails (Bigfork Canoe) Birch Bark Canoe Page (Aboriginal Collection) Birch Bark Canoe Building a Birchbark Canoe Birchbark Canoe (Minature Replicas) Birchbark Canoe Keepsake (Minature Replicas) The Bark Canoe Store (BarkCanoe.com) Birchbark Canoe Construction - Canadian Heritage Gallery NauticalDreamer.com Birch Bark Trapper Canoe WCHA - Birchbark Canoes - --part1_1ab.69b4715.2a8869e9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out these sites. There are pics of Algonquin, Mic Mac, Ojibwe, Mohawk, Aboriginal and a heap of others scattered throughout..... 
Hope this is of some help.  Barney

Squeedunk Period Correct Canoes & Kayaks
Birch Bark Canoe Photo Gallery
Birch Bark Canoe (Henry Vaillancourt)
Bigfork Canoe Trails (Bigfork Canoe)
Birch Bark Canoe Page (Aboriginal Collection)
Birch Bark Canoe
Building a Birchbark Canoe
Birchbark Canoe (Minature Replicas)
Birchbark Canoe Keepsake (Minature Replicas)
The Bark Canoe Store (BarkCanoe.com)
Birchbark Canoe Construction - Canadian Heritage Gallery
NauticalDreamer.com 
Birch Bark Trapper Canoe
WCHA - Birchbark Canoes - --part1_1ab.69b4715.2a8869e9_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 18:48:49 +0000 From: "scott mcmahon" Subject: MtMan-List: Southwestern Horse Enthusiasts Gentlemen, I'm looking for anyone in the Texas-Oklahoma area who is interested in doing 1830's period rides. I have a group here in Texas doing late thirties early forties and we have access to a 5,00 acre ranch on the Nueces. If you are interested in joining us for jaunts or are interested in doing something up your way please contact me. I look forward to hearing from you. - - Dios, Libertad y Tejas Cpt. McMahon S.W. Frontiers Mntd. Ranging Co. "Hays's Rangers have come, their appearance never to be forgotten. Not any sort of uniforms, but well mounted and doubly well armed: each man has one or two Colt's revolvers besides ordinary pistols, a sword, and every man a rifle....The Mexicans are terribly afraid of them." General Ethan Allen Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 19:52:42 +0000 From: "scott mcmahon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Southwestern Horse Enthusiasts correction...that's 5,000 acres- not 500...sorry SMc _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:12:42 EDT From: JimInTexas1962@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Southwestern Horse Enthusiasts - --part1_19a.6e7e620.2a8ade5a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit when I finish building my santa Fe saddle ,I would like to join y'all jim branson Inez Tx - --part1_19a.6e7e620.2a8ade5a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit when I finish building my santa Fe saddle ,I would like to join y'all
                                                      jim branson
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