From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1126 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Friday, December 20 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1126 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits -       RE: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re;Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey to JOAQUINQS -       Re: MtMan-List: Help with blacksmith artifact -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       RE: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: Help with blacksmith artifact -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       MtMan-List: remove -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       MtMan-List: delete me from your list -       re: MtMan-List: delete me from your list -       MtMan-List: Water Horns & small kettles? -       RE: MtMan-List: Water Horns & small kettles? -       RE: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey -       Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:55:37 -0500 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey > what type of rifle or smoothbore do you use? I have 4 smoothies... soon to be 5 when I add a Chambers NW Trade Gun. One is a .50 cal and the rest are .62. I have a Fusil d'Chasse, Chiefs Trade Gun, the .50 (made here in WV), and another .62 with a 52" barrel. can't remember who made it. For rifles I have a Traditions Taos .50 cal, and a SC Poor Boy in .45 cal... Regards, Ad Miller - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:57:48 -0500 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Authentic period spirits Ad, You are going to cost me $$$.... I has GOT to get one of those medium units... You know what fish DO in water?? D Heh... why do you think I don't drink water? *GRINS* Ad.... - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 20:44:13 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey Hi Frank, I shoot a .50 cal Dixie Southern Mtn Rifle (poor boy), which has had 7" removed from the barrel. I felt it was too barrel heavy, so had it circumcized . It's a handy rifle now. I have two smooth bores. A canoe gun with a 20" barrel and a North Star West Trade gun with 36" barrel. They are all flinters, and all serve their purpose, depending on what that is... I have a handy 6" barrel pistol to match the .62 smoothies. The pistol isn't much on the long range, but woe to the poor short range target it gets pointed at. Those percussions are a cute idea, BUT they won't catch on...... Randy-hardtack Randal Bublitz rjbublitz@earthlink.net Freedom is Not Free > [Original Message] > From: > > Maybe this topic has already been discussed, but I would like to ask everyone what type of rifle or smoothbore do you use? does anyone out there use a (dare I say) a percussion rifle. > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:01:51 EST From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey - --part1_179.131be458.2b32acbf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is not intended to start a heated discussion, but I truly want to know why folks are always bashing "percussion" rifles with comments such as persuction,nipple huggers,and a few others i wont mention here. I happen to like mine and know for that some (not many were in use in the RMFT era, maybe late in the era,). I just dont truly understand this. If anyone wants to bash percussion rifles just email me personally off list. thanks to all responses and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all Frank Sablan Midland,Texas - --part1_179.131be458.2b32acbf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   this is not intended to start a heated discussion, but I truly want to know why folks are always bashing "percussion" rifles with comments such as  persuction,nipple huggers,and a few others i wont mention here.  I happen to like mine and know for  that some (not many were in use in the RMFT era, maybe late in the era,).  I just dont truly understand this.  If anyone wants to bash percussion rifles just email me personally off list.

thanks to all responses and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all

Frank Sablan
Midland,Texas - --part1_179.131be458.2b32acbf_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 05:28:32 +0000 From: "Sean Boushie" Subject: Re;Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey to JOAQUINQS Its just a thing of pride for one and second I just don't believe any self smart beaver trapper from Montana 1000 miles from the settlements and a source of those little nipple huggers would want one when he could pick up a rock out of the creek for free. It's no diffrent than if you were offered a shiny fancy new vehicle that you have to buy all the gas for or a plain jane that was guaranted to almost never brake down and it came with a lifetime supply of fuel for free. Which would you choose? third those that shoot them over time realize that they simply make you a better shooter because you learn to become part of the gun as it were and learn to finese it thru all its excentricities. If you like you nipple gun, thats fine with me. But for my area, my timeline it just don't fit. >From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey >Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:01:51 EST > > this is not intended to start a heated discussion, but I truly want to >know >why folks are always bashing "percussion" rifles with comments such as >persuction,nipple huggers,and a few others i wont mention here. I happen >to >like mine and know for that some (not many were in use in the RMFT era, >maybe late in the era,). I just dont truly understand this. If anyone >wants >to bash percussion rifles just email me personally off list. > >thanks to all responses and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all > >Frank Sablan >Midland,Texas _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 22:46:26 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Help with blacksmith artifact Scott, The spoons are too far apart and are facing the same way unlike musical spoons which face away from each other. It is an odd piece of iron. Thanks though, Beaverboy > Beaverboy, > Sounds alot like a set of musical spoons but I've never heard of an > iron set before... > SMc > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 21:39:15 -0800 From: "kc16" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C2A6DD.E98843C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Frank, I think that you have to take it with a grain of salt. I can't tell you = how many times I've heard the phrase "flinchlock", "hanglock", etc. = It's probably part of that old addage, "A happy sailor is a bitching = sailor"...well...a happy mountain man is a bitching mountain man. I wouldn't give it no nevermind and give us flinters a hard time = back...we'll love ya for it....waughh!!! Curtis "Blood" Krouse ----- Original Message -----=20 From: JOAQUINQS@aol.com=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:01 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey this is not intended to start a heated discussion, but I truly want = to know why folks are always bashing "percussion" rifles with comments = such as persuction,nipple huggers,and a few others i wont mention here. = I happen to like mine and know for that some (not many were in use in = the RMFT era, maybe late in the era,). I just dont truly understand = this. If anyone wants to bash percussion rifles just email me = personally off list. thanks to all responses and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all Frank Sablan Midland,Texas - ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C2A6DD.E98843C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Frank,
 
I think that you have to take it with a = grain of=20 salt.  I can't tell you how many times I've heard the phrase = "flinchlock",=20 "hanglock", etc.  It's probably part of that old addage, "A happy = sailor is=20 a bitching sailor"...well...a happy mountain man is a bitching mountain=20 man.
 
I wouldn't give it no nevermind and = give us=20 flinters a hard time back...we'll love ya for = it....waughh!!!
 
Curtis "Blood" Krouse
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From:=20 JOAQUINQS@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, = 2002 9:01=20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: = rifle/smoothie=20 survey

  this is not intended to start a heated = discussion,=20 but I truly want to know why folks are always bashing "percussion" = rifles with=20 comments such as  persuction,nipple huggers,and a few others i = wont=20 mention here.  I happen to like mine and know for  that some = (not=20 many were in use in the RMFT era, maybe late in the era,).  I = just dont=20 truly understand this.  If anyone wants to bash percussion rifles = just=20 email me personally off list.

thanks to all responses and Happy = Holidays and Merry Christmas to all

Frank=20 Sablan
Midland,Texas - ------=_NextPart_000_0068_01C2A6DD.E98843C0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:14:19 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey Frank, I don't have anything against cappers, most flint shooters don't, I just feel that flintlocks are the true essence of the sport! By the way I shoot a .62 cal North Star West trade gun. Paid for it with beaver hides and knap my own flints out of Knife River flint. You gotta love that smoothbore, flinter! This ain't a rifle, This is a gun, It ain't for killing, It's just for fun! beaverboy > this is not intended to start a heated discussion, but I truly want to > know > why folks are always bashing "percussion" rifles with comments such as > persuction,nipple huggers,and a few others i wont mention here. I > happen to like mine and know for that some (not many were in use in > the RMFT era, maybe late in the era,). I just dont truly understand > this. If anyone wants to bash percussion rifles just email me > personally off list. > > thanks to all responses and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all > > Frank Sablan > Midland,Texas - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 02:12:07 -0500 From: "ikon" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey I would like to ask everyone what type of rifle or smoothbore do you use? does anyone out there use a (dare I say) a percussion rifle. Guess I am one of them thar gawd awful percussion shooters. I own two 50 cal. Lyman GPR rifles, both of which I think date back to the early 80's. One I have kept stock with the trad. blue finish. The second one I have cut the barrel down to 23.5" from the trad. 33" and hopefully after hunting season will find a flinter lock to complete the mod. I really do not fit in with the "persona" talk. Makes me feel like I am in a play portraying a specific part. All I do is hunt with the two above mentioned rifles while wearing home made clothing of the 1800's style. During the small game season it is not unusual for me to strap on one of my 1851 Navy's and fish for trout in the nearby trout stream. Maybe one day I will get a two'fer. Trout and a hog. Frank > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 23:30:00 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey
Hi Frank,  I like all those other answers..... I agree, it's a prideful jibe....   I can shoot better with a caplock, but enjoy the challenge of the g*d da#@(!d  F*c&X!$  flintch lock.  I figger if one can make a flintlock work, he can shoot anything.  In the early days the caps were not as reliable as they are today.  Russel mentions in his journals about the caps going off in the heat, etc....  As has been mentioned, where would a guy get caps in the middle of the Rockies in mid 1830s?   Flint (actually chirt) abounds all over the continent.  I just picked up some nice nodules 2 weeks ago while camping in the nearby hills.  As the old song goes..."  You can always find a rock, to make that musket talk....."  It's a flintlock, Lord God, It's a flintlock....   (PS...don't tell anyone but I have a couple of cartridge guns too....modern stuff.... 1894 winchester and a single action revolver)...   Yfab, Randy
 
Randal Bublitz
Freedom is Not Free
 
 
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey

  this is not intended to start a heated discussion, but I truly want to know why folks are always bashing "percussion" rifles with comments such as  persuction,nipple huggers,and a few others i wont mention here.  I happen to like mine and know for  that some (not many were in use in the RMFT era, maybe late in the era,).  I just dont truly understand this.  If anyone wants to bash percussion rifles just email me personally off list.

thanks to all responses and Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to all

Frank Sablan
Midland,Texas
- ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:46:20 -0800 From: John Kramer Subject: RE: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey Frank, A long time ago I had to decide on just one, I had all kinds of plain and fancy to chose from; all but one had to go. I kept a .69 Charleville cut down to 30", carved to fit my face, tacked up some with a convenient leather sling. It has never let me down. It makes dull rocks spark. It has kept me fed when it counted, it has comforted the night in Ol' Ephraim's neighborhood, it was the only one I had for several years. It's been mule stomped, stolen and recovered, lost and found, bashed against trees and dumped in creeks by my horses, dropped onto rocks far below, used to trip traps, drug on the ground, kept loaded for years at a time, and always went boom when I wanted, it was seldom cleaned and sorely mistreated, it is flat beautiful. And none the worse for the wear. When I was on the trail I folded a piece of rawhide into an open end pocket, laced it up, and hung it from the rigging on my saddle, it carried well. I seldom take it out anymore, there are more fashionable things to show off. If God had meant for man to shoot percussion caps he'd have lined the bottoms of the rivers and the cricks with'em. John... At 08:44 PM 12/18/02, you wrote: > > [Original Message] > > From: > > > > Maybe this topic has already been discussed, but I would like to ask >everyone what type of rifle or smoothbore do you use? does anyone out there >use a (dare I say) a percussion rifle. > > Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. John Kramer - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 03:17:30 EST From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Help with blacksmith artifact - --part1_15.5117b75.2b32da9a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beaverboy My guess without seeing them if they are some type of trappers tool would be fleshing spoons. When fleshing rats and critters with thin hinds like rabbits, fox I have used a large table spoon to flesh them, much less of a chance of cut the hide. Using it much like a bell scrapper which I use on beaver hinds after clean skinning them, after they are whooped. Just a thought Crazy Cyot - --part1_15.5117b75.2b32da9a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beaverboy
My guess without seeing them if they are some type of trappers tool would be fleshing spoons. When fleshing rats and critters with thin hinds like rabbits, fox I have used a large table spoon to flesh them, much less of a chance of cut the hide. Using it much like a bell scrapper which I use on beaver hinds after clean skinning them, after they are whooped.
Just a thought
Crazy Cyot - --part1_15.5117b75.2b32da9a_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:20:53 EST From: NaugaMok@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey - --part1_183.13d08c78.2b3321b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/02 11:50:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, kramer@kramerize.com writes: > A long time ago I had to decide on just one, I had all kinds of plain and > fancy to chose from; all but one had to go. > I have several friends that agree with that idea, John, but those with the most toys, wins doncha know. The one gun idea DOES have merit. I did that for a few years & got to know that rifle intimately. No matter what range, I would swear I was holding dead on. I KNOW on a 200 yd shot it HAS to be held high, but at that time the hold over had become automatic and "mind's eye" saw it as dead on. For hunting, I carry an old Dixie poor boy I've rebarreled to .54 & relocked (L&R "drop in") to flint. For trail walks & target I have 2 customs. 1st is a little 1/2 stock .45 by Ralph Goodman that's convertible flint & percussion though it normally wears the flint version of the two Silers. 2nd is a reproduction of Fredric Sell's Pegasus by Steve Lodding in .50 cal -- 'course, it's a flinter too. My smoothie is one of those fairly popular amongst this bunch -- North Star West's trade gun in .62. Never could get the hang of flints on the short guns, so I fudge with my pistols & use those new fangled copper thingys. Just got a really new modern gun -- 1st model Dragoon -- 3rd generation Colt. While it's real purty to look at, haven't had time to figure out what kind of a diet it wants, so can't hit $hi+ with it yet. May never get it to shoot straight, but that's OK, it ain't for serious shootin' anyhow. Got 4 single shot pistols (all .45 cal) that shoot just fine. Of that 4, 1 is a Traditions, the rest are customs. One from Ralph Goodman is also convertable. I built one for my wife, but she's given up shooting. The 3rd is a Steve Lodding, also built for my wife. Since she doesn't use 'em anymore, I use hers now & then just to keep 'em warmed up in case she decides to come out of "retirement". Her rifle is so short (12 1/4" pull) I can't shoot the dang thing unless I try using it for another pistol! It's a Pedersoli I rebarreled & shortened for her. Nauga Mok - --part1_183.13d08c78.2b3321b5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/02 11:50:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, kramer@kramerize.com writes:


A long time ago I had to decide on just one, I had all kinds of plain and
fancy to chose from; all but one had to go.


I have several friends that agree with that idea, John, but those with the most toys, wins doncha know.  The one gun idea DOES have merit.  I did that for a few years & got to know that rifle intimately.  No matter what range, I would swear I was holding dead on.  I KNOW on a 200 yd shot it HAS to be held high, but at that time the hold over had become automatic and "mind's eye" saw it as dead on.

For hunting, I carry an old Dixie poor boy I've rebarreled to .54 & relocked (L&R "drop in") to flint.  For trail walks & target I have 2 customs.  1st is a little 1/2 stock .45 by Ralph Goodman that's convertible flint & percussion though it normally wears the flint version of the two Silers.  2nd is a reproduction of Fredric Sell's Pegasus by Steve Lodding in .50 cal -- 'course, it's a flinter too.  My smoothie is one of those fairly popular amongst this bunch -- North Star West's trade gun in .62.  Never could get the hang of flints on the short guns, so I fudge with my pistols & use those new fangled copper thingys.  Just got a really new modern gun -- 1st model Dragoon -- 3rd generation Colt.  While it's real purty to look at, haven't had time to figure out what kind of a diet it wants, so can't hit $hi+ with it yet.  May never get it to shoot straight, but that's OK, it ain't for serious shootin' anyhow.  Got 4 single shot pistols (all .45 cal) that shoot just fine.  Of that 4, 1 is a Traditions, the rest are customs.  One from Ralph Goodman is also convertable.  I built one for my wife, but she's given up shooting.  The 3rd is a Steve Lodding, also built for my wife.  Since she doesn't use 'em anymore, I use hers now & then just to keep 'em warmed up in case she decides to come out of "retirement".  Her rifle is so short (12 1/4" pull) I can't shoot the dang thing unless I try using it for another pistol!  It's a Pedersoli I rebarreled & shortened for her. 

Nauga Mok - --part1_183.13d08c78.2b3321b5_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 08:26:56 EST From: Kadyscout@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: remove - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 05:49:17 -0800 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey I use for my main gun, a 50 cal full stock flint (a old sharon kit)- hawken style. mike. On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:10:20 -0800 Alan Avery wrote: > "... I would like to ask everyone what type of > rifle or smoothbore do you > use?..." > > > - Tulle fusil de chasse .62 cal. I have others > but I almost never shoot 'em > anymore. I plain out just have too much fun > shooting my smoothie. > > > Black Knife > aka > Alan > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 07:30:42 -0800 (PST) From: Ronald Schrotter Subject: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey Greetings all! This survey thing is pretty interesting, a pretty wide assortment of arms out there. I have my choice of flint or cap as many of us do. For many years I have had an old Navy Arms caplock Pennsyvania style, it has made meat on several occasions, .45 cal, and good out to 150 yards easy. Next I got a Navy Arms '03 Harpers Ferry, .58 flint. I worked that old lock over well enough to fire from a running horse, but the mainspring is so heavy it actually rocked the gun when fired, so I field converted it to cap, and shortened the throw about 50%. It worked well enough to take a yearling bull buff with 1 shot. My best rifle is one I had put together by Al Comer of Missouri, with a 36" Green River barrel, flint lock and triggers by the late Curley Gustomski of North Star Trade Gun fame (his first English style lock)and half-stocked and iron hardwared by Al. I love 'em all, each for different reasons. Dog, Hiv. 617 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. 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THe small part interested me because it states small was 6-7 qts. Is there any additional information on these "water horns"? Monte Holder - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 16:03:14 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Water Horns & small kettles? Monte, They would fill their powder horns in an emergency. James Ohio Pattie wrote about it too. Randy Randal Bublitz rjbublitz@earthlink.net Freedom is Not Free > [Original Message] > From: Monte Holder > To: > Date: 12/19/02 1:25:42 PM > Subject: MtMan-List: Water Horns & small kettles? > > While waiting for the kids at music lessons I was reading the Jed. Smith stuff > from the website. Once he mentioned they "filled thier horns" with water > before taking off. Then they got really dry, and left one guy behind and Smith > filled up a "small" kettle and took water back. THe small part interested me > because it states small was 6-7 qts. > > Is there any additional information on these "water horns"? > > Monte Holder > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 18:32:13 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: RE: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey Kramer wrote, > It's been mule stomped, stolen and recovered, lost and found, bashed > against trees and dumped in creeks by my horses, dropped onto rocks far > below, used to trip traps, drug on the ground, kept loaded for years > at a time, and always went boom when I wanted, it was seldom cleaned > and sorely mistreated, it is flat beautiful. And none the worse for > the wear. John, I'd like to ask that gun to marry me, if you don't mind. Sincerely, beaverboy - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:20:06 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Branson Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey - --0-272959383-1040354406=:67006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I own and shoot all kinds of guns. I have hunted with all of them. Caplocks, flintlocks, In modern guns I prefer a browning model 78 single shot based on the old hi-wall winchester. I own one chambered for the 7mm rem. mag. Great gun. My flint is a rifle I built myself: 42" swamped Getz barrel .54 cal. with curly maple stock and brass furniture, siler lock. Great rifle. But all my guns are left-handed. I have built 26 long rifles over the last 30 years. Some cap some flint. I 'm also prejudiced about some rifles. I don't like factory made rifles from Spain. The main springs are usually too weak. The Italia flint guns don't spark too well. I spent a lot of time in the late 70s early 80s re-facing frizzens and changin out main springs for guys who wouldn't buy custom rifles. To each his own. The rifle I'm just finishing is for Davy Crockett. At least the new Davy Crockett in the new film coming out next year. It is a Jacob Dickert style with a nice L&R lock. It sparks like a raped ape. has to, Davy can't have a mis-fire in front of millions of people. He might get killed. Merry Christmas to all. - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now - --0-272959383-1040354406=:67006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 

 I own and shoot all kinds of guns. I have hunted with all of them. Caplocks, flintlocks, In modern guns I prefer a browning model 78 single shot based on the old hi-wall winchester. I own one chambered for the 7mm rem. mag. Great gun. My flint is a rifle I built myself: 42" swamped Getz barrel .54 cal. with curly maple stock and brass furniture, siler lock. Great rifle. But all my guns are left-handed. I have built 26 long rifles over the last 30 years. Some cap some flint. I 'm also prejudiced about some rifles. I don't like factory made rifles from Spain. The main springs are usually too weak. The Italia flint guns don't spark too well. I spent a lot of time in the late 70s early 80s re-facing frizzens and changin out main springs for guys who wouldn't buy custom rifles. To each his own. The rifle I'm just finishing is for Davy Crockett. At least the new Davy Crockett in the new film coming out next year. It is a Jacob Dickert style with a nice L&R lock. It sparks like a raped ape. has to, Davy can't have a mis-fire in front of millions of people. He might get killed. Merry Christmas to all.


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Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now - --0-272959383-1040354406=:67006-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 23:01:57 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey - --part1_a4.312f0187.2b33f035_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/2002 11:24:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, rjbublitz@earthlink.net writes: > (PS...don't tell anyone but I have a couple of cartridge guns too....modern > stuff.... 1894 winchester and a single action revolver)... Yfab, Randy A BUTT-STUFFER!!!!!!!...... Randy, I'm shocked! Magpie - --part1_a4.312f0187.2b33f035_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/2002 11:24:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, rjbublitz@earthlink.net writes:

(PS...don't tell anyone but I have a couple of cartridge guns too....modern stuff.... 1894 winchester and a single action revolver)...   Yfab, Randy


A BUTT-STUFFER!!!!!!!...... Randy, I'm shocked! 

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Magpie - --part1_a4.312f0187.2b33f035_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:21:52 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey
Sheeesh...didn't I say ..."don't tell anyone..." <g>    my reputatation is ruint.....   oh well...won't be the first time.  Magpie, I figured when the rag heads rebel, I'd beter have something that shoots quicker than my Trade Gun.....   Randy (who is slowly aproaching the 19 century)
 
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In a message dated 12/18/2002 11:24:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, rjbublitz@earthlink.net writes:

(PS...don't tell anyone but I have a couple of cartridge guns too....modern stuff.... 1894 winchester and a single action revolver)...   Yfab, Randy


A BUTT-STUFFER!!!!!!!...... Randy, I'm shocked! 

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- ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 01:02:52 -0800 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rifle/smoothie survey HARDTACK!!!! A suppository gun? Tsk, tsk! What will the neighbors say? Have you no shame? It must be strictly for sociable purposes only, I know Hardtack to be a man of principle and honor, he wouldn't sink so low except to be polite, just trying to be a good neighbor I'm sure. John... At 08:01 PM 12/19/02, you wrote: >In a message dated 12/18/2002 11:24:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, >rjbublitz@earthlink.net writes: > >>(PS...don't tell anyone but I have a couple of cartridge guns >>too....modern stuff.... 1894 winchester and a single action >>revolver)... Yfab, Randy > > >A BUTT-STUFFER!!!!!!!...... Randy, I'm shocked! > > >Magpie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "[Americans need not fear the federal government, because they enjoy] the advantage of being armed, which you possess over the people of almost every other nation." - --James Madison, Federalist #46 (1788). - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1126 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.