From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1150 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, February 9 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1150 In this issue: -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:18:47 -0600 -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Sorry, Geri -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: How Long? -牋牋牋 RE: MtMan-List: How Long? -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:18:47 -0600 -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: How Long? -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: How Long? -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Wooden Chair -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: How Long? -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: How Long? -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Otter skin stank -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: David Thompson Shoot -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Otter skin stank -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: How Long? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:03:11 -0800 From: "Ben" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:18:47 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2CE87.BD402680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Longshot, The drivers here in Utah drive in snow enough to know how (usually, been = darn dry around here lately) but it seems like they figure if they go = faster they'll get there quicker and keep 'em off those icy roads. = Nothing scares me more than driving in to SLC in the early mornig rush = hour, right after a storm. I guess it's the same where ever you are. Happy truckin' Ben ----- Original Message -----=20 From: LODGEPOLE@aol.com=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 6:43 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:18:47 -0600 In a message dated 2/6, lanneyratcliff@charter.net writes:=20 << ----( stuff deleted )---- the Texas/Oklahoma Brigade are gathering = in a cedar brake east of Dallas for a 4 day camp with a forecast of low = 20's and snow, with maybe a little sleet thrown in for spice. ----( = stuff deleted )---- >>=20 Lanney,=20 As an over the road truck driver, I had the opportunity to drive in = all 48 continental states in bad weather. When you hit it, you just = keep on truckin', and I did. Until I hit one inch of snow at rush hour = in Dallas. Nothing ever scared the crap outta me like that did. I = figger you boys will be better off in that cedar break outside of = Dallas!!!!! Just an observation. ;-)=20 Longshot=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2CE87.BD402680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Longshot,

The drivers here in Utah drive in snow = enough to=20 know how (usually, been darn dry around here lately) but it seems like = they=20 figure if they go faster they'll get there quicker and keep 'em off = those icy=20 roads. Nothing scares me more than driving in to SLC in the early = mornig=20 rush hour, right after a storm.

I guess it's the same where ever you=20 are.

Happy truckin'

Ben

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Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 = 6:43=20 AM

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In a message dated 2/6, lanneyratcliff@charter.net= =20 writes:

<< ----( stuff deleted = )---- = the = Texas/Oklahoma=20 Brigade are gathering in a cedar brake east of Dallas for a 4 day camp = with a=20 forecast of low 20's and snow, with maybe a little sleet thrown in for = spice.=20 ----( stuff deleted )---- >>

Lanney, =

As an over=20 the road truck driver, I had the opportunity to drive in all 48 = continental=20 states in bad weather. When you hit it, you just keep on = truckin', and I=20 did. Until I hit one inch of snow at rush hour in Dallas. = Nothing=20 ever scared the crap outta me like that did. I figger you boys = will be=20 better off in that cedar break outside of Dallas!!!!! = Just=20 an observation. ;-)

Longshot - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C2CE87.BD402680-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 08:37:33 -0800 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Sorry, Geri Teton, I'll have you know my friend that yours is the first message this morning I am even attempting to respond to since I smashed my left "point'in" finger trying to load another log of curly maple into the fire box! Dang that hurt! I appreciate your comment and support. My comments certainly weren't meant to "rip" anyone, rather to generate serious personal introspection on how we express ourselves. Gray cold foggy day here in "God's Country". Winter well my friend. YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 13:17:38 -0500 (EST) From: TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net (The Grey Wolfe) Subject: MtMan-List: How Long? Hello the List! I was just wondering how long one could leave a muzzle loader charged and still expect it to go boom at the right moment? Also any ideas on how long a trappers gun would have been loaded, did he fire it every day or pull the ball and reload in camp or just wait till he fired it to reload? Just Wonder'n. Your Servant, M.A.Smith - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:38:31 -0800 From: Pat Quilter Subject: RE: MtMan-List: How Long? Having monitored this list for years, I can recap many considered opinions on this question. As far as one can tell, guns were alwsys kept loaded. Many old "wallhangers" or guns retrieved from barns or attics still have a load when inspected (I have seen hair raising tales of them going off when the modern gunsmith is heating the barrel to release the breech plug). Through personal experience, I can attest that with ordinary care a flintlock may be kept loaded for days if not months and still go off when required. There is some literature on pulling loads when conditions made the charge suspect. One expedition that survived a snow-covered pass in starving conditions found their guns "much out of order from using as walking sticks etc" when they finally encountered game, and the writer (Ferris?) drew his charge, chipped his flint, etc before killing a stray buffalo. In general, using a small feather or cow's knee to keep the touchhole dry, I would keep a load in place rather than risk loss or dampness pulling it out, unless it was clearly soaked. I am sure there will be other reports on this question. Best regards Pat Quilter - -----Original Message----- From: TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net [mailto:TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net] Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:18 AM To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: MtMan-List: How Long? Hello the List! I was just wondering how long one could leave a muzzle loader charged and still expect it to go boom at the right moment? Also any ideas on how long a trappers gun would have been loaded, did he fire it every day or pull the ball and reload in camp or just wait till he fired it to reload? Just Wonder'n. Your Servant, M.A.Smith - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 11:44:35 -0800 (PST) From: Ronald Schrotter Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 23:18:47 -0600 Howdy Lanney! As we say up here in Extreme North Texas-"taint the cold, it's the humidity!" And be careful who you send those DFW invites to-someone may take you up on it! Best to you and yours, Dog - --- Lanney Ratcliff wrote: > Yeah, the drivers here are divided into about three > groups....those who don't have a clue how to drive > in that stuff (the vast majority), those who grew up > driving in it but forgot how when they moved down > here and those who know how to drive in it but > choose to keep off the roads due to the other two > groups. I lived for several years in the Missouri > Ozarks and drove several winters in the snow and ice > up there so I just hunker down whenever possible and > watch the fender-benders on the TV news. I'm > looking forward to those cedar fires, though, so I'm > heading out. > Lanney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: LODGEPOLE@aol.com > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:43 AM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 > 23:18:47 -0600 > > > In a message dated 2/6, lanneyratcliff@charter.net > writes: > > << ----( stuff deleted )---- the Texas/Oklahoma > Brigade are gathering in a cedar brake east of > Dallas for a 4 day camp with a forecast of low 20's > and snow, with maybe a little sleet thrown in for > spice. ----( stuff deleted )---- >> > > Lanney, > > As an over the road truck driver, I had the > opportunity to drive in all 48 continental states in > bad weather. When you hit it, you just keep on > truckin', and I did. Until I hit one inch of snow > at rush hour in Dallas. Nothing ever scared the > crap outta me like that did. I figger you boys will > be better off in that cedar break outside of > Dallas!!!!! Just an observation. ;-) > > Longshot __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 16:22:52 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: How Long? M.A. I hunt right behind my house so don't have to drive with a loaded muzzleloader thus I can keep it loaded for extended periods. I'm so cheap that when I'm done hunting I tap my priming load back into my priming horn (unless it looks moist). I then leave my loaded fusee in a secure spot in a cool/cold room in my garage. I also stick something like a chunk of plastic bag in the lock and close the cock to avoid any trouble there. You do want to avoid major cold to hot changes on the barrel to avoid condensation. I have left it loaded for over two weeks and had no noticable difference in shooting it. I usually empty it (by shooting) after more than two weeks just to have a fresh load in it. By the way I have knocked out shot loads from my fusee by tapping the barrel heavily on a stump or log to change the load to a ball. Don't tell OSHA about that. One time I did it as five gobblers sat under the shade of a large ponderosa and were looking around wondering what all the thumping noise was! I sneaked to within 70 yards of them and the last bit of cover and they weren't budging to any of my calls. It was the fall season and ball is legal which is why I decided to switch loads. Before I switched to ball however a very large black bear meandered within 60 yards of me! I don't feel very brave with a .20 gage loaded with shot! Anyway the bear moved on, I got a ball in the barrel and promptly missed the gobbler! It was fun though even if it took me an hour to creep within 70 yards of those toms. I'm also surprised how many journal excerpts contain stories of mountain men or trappers shooting their guns off in excitement at finding water or something else. Maybe they were just waiting for a reason to recharge their guns with a fresh load. Beaverboy > Hello the List! > I was just wondering how long > one could leave a muzzle loader charged and still expect it to go boom > at the right moment? > Also any ideas on how long a trappers gun would have been loaded, did > he fire it every > day or pull the ball and reload in camp or just > wait till he fired it to reload? Just Wonder'n. > > Your Servant, > M.A.Smith > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:05:17 -0800 From: "kc16" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: How Long? M.A., I left my .50 cal flinter loaded for over a year once hanging in my gun room at home. When I took it out...it had only a slight hang when fired. Now...up here on the western rockies, we have some dry weather....so low humidity was a key to that being able to happen. I also took some grease and covered the flash hole and then picked it out when I went to fire it. I wouldn't do it again.....maybe. Regards, Blood - ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Grey Wolfe" To: Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:17 AM Subject: MtMan-List: How Long? > Hello the List! > I was just wondering how long > one could leave a muzzle loader charged and still expect it to go boom > at the right moment? > Also any ideas on how long a trappers gun would have been loaded, did he > fire it every > day or pull the ball and reload in camp or just > wait till he fired it to reload? Just Wonder'n. > > Your Servant, > M.A.Smith > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:11:53 -0800 From: "kc16" Subject: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question Klahowya, I know that this information was just recently on the list...but I have to ask it again...because I lost the information. I'm checking out a company in Montana ..... North Star West, Inc. Can anyone give me an opinion on the quality of their kits? I appreciate it. Regards, Blood - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 05:39:13 +0000 From: "Sean Boushie" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question Blood, I know the new owner personally, very nice guy. We belong to the same club. I know he's just recently taken over the business, adn from what I can see its a nice operation. Teh kits I've handled are complete in the white and totally functional. Don't appear that you'd need to do a bit of filing or chisling. Just a bit of scraping or sanding (I don't like sanding) some browning and a finish coat of shelac or tounge oil. I know if you wern't happy Matt would make it so you were, hes that kinda guy, heck he's from Montana right? Here's the site incase you or somebody else needs it. http://www.northstarwest.com/ flintlocknfur aka "Sean" >From: "kc16" >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Subject: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question >Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:11:53 -0800 > >Klahowya, > >I know that this information was just recently on the list...but I have to >ask it again...because I lost the information. I'm checking out a company >in Montana ..... North Star West, Inc. Can anyone give me an opinion on >the >quality of their kits? > >I appreciate it. > >Regards, >Blood > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:55:36 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question >Well, I'll be danged! I didn't know North Star West moved to Frenchtown! I have a North Star from when they were in Vegas or eastern California and it has been a great gun. Hey, Sean I wonder if they will be at the Alberton shoot as its only 20 miles away or so. beaverboy > Blood, > > I know the new owner personally, very nice guy. We belong to the same > club. I know he's just recently taken over the business, adn from what > I can see its a nice operation. Teh kits I've handled are complete in > the white and totally functional. Don't appear that you'd need to do a > bit of filing or chisling. Just a bit of scraping or sanding (I don't > like sanding) some browning and a finish coat of shelac or tounge oil. > I know if you wern't happy Matt would make it so you were, hes that > kinda guy, heck he's from Montana right? Here's the site incase you or > somebody else needs it. > > http://www.northstarwest.com/ > > flintlocknfur aka "Sean" > > > >>From: "kc16" >>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >>Subject: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question >>Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:11:53 -0800 >> >>Klahowya, >> >>I know that this information was just recently on the list...but I have >>to ask it again...because I lost the information. I'm checking out a >>company in Montana ..... North Star West, Inc. Can anyone give me an >>opinion on the >>quality of their kits? >> >>I appreciate it. >> >>Regards, >>Blood >> >> >>---------------------- >>hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 06:06:59 +0000 From: "Sean Boushie" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question Well seeins he's the Booshway for it this year think It's a good bet. If not his house is just down the road. Probably could go get whatever you need. >From: >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question >Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 22:55:36 -0700 (MST) > > >Well, I'll be danged! I didn't know North Star West moved to Frenchtown! >I have a North Star from when they were in Vegas or eastern California and >it has been a great gun. Hey, Sean I wonder if they will be at the >Alberton shoot as its only 20 miles away or so. > beaverboy > > Blood, > > > > I know the new owner personally, very nice guy. We belong to the same > > club. I know he's just recently taken over the business, adn from what > > I can see its a nice operation. Teh kits I've handled are complete in > > the white and totally functional. Don't appear that you'd need to do a > > bit of filing or chisling. Just a bit of scraping or sanding (I don't > > like sanding) some browning and a finish coat of shelac or tounge oil. > > I know if you wern't happy Matt would make it so you were, hes that > > kinda guy, heck he's from Montana right? Here's the site incase you or > > somebody else needs it. > > > > http://www.northstarwest.com/ > > > > flintlocknfur aka "Sean" > > > > > > > >>From: "kc16" > >>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > >>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > >>Subject: MtMan-List: Repeat of a past question > >>Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 21:11:53 -0800 > >> > >>Klahowya, > >> > >>I know that this information was just recently on the list...but I have > >>to ask it again...because I lost the information. I'm checking out a > >>company in Montana ..... North Star West, Inc. Can anyone give me an > >>opinion on the > >>quality of their kits? > >> > >>I appreciate it. > >> > >>Regards, > >>Blood > >> > >> > >>---------------------- > >>hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 07:57:58 -0700 (MST) From: Subject: MtMan-List: Wooden Chair Dear List, I found a nice 2攛12攛12' floating down the Missouri last spring while trapping and let me tell you, they can get pretty heavy when water soaked. Anyway I am going to make a slotted wooden chair for myself out of it to leave at Fort Union for my yearly visits. Can someone that owns a nicely proportioned one tell me what the measurements are. I don抰 want to experiment nor do I have enough wood to have a mistake. All I need is the distance from the ground to the bottom of the slot on the backboard, the length of the section that extends through the backrest to the ground and the width of the slot (half of the board?) I would imagine the height of the backrest is the least crucial measurement. It can also be fairly high too as I don't think I can get two chairs out of 12 feet. I took some measurements at a rendezvous once but have no idea what I did with them. The snow is flying today and all the rivers are frozen solid so it's a good time to get it done. The chair will be in the north east bastion after June, use it anytime I抦 not there. bb - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 10:03:21 -0500 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: How Long? Had a load in my TC Hawken capper for over 2 years and didn't know it... went to use it and checked the bl... lo ahd behold, was I surprized. Took it to the range and she fired first shot... this was in South florida wth 70%+ humidity. Regards, Ad Miller - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 18:39:33 -0500 (EST) From: TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net (The Grey Wolfe) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: How Long? Thanks to all for some great info. and interesting story's ! Mike - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 20:59:02 -0500 (EST) From: ikon@mindspring.com Subject: MtMan-List: Otter skin stank How do you trappers and skinners get rid of the fishy smell from otter and beaver skins? Yupper, just a little green when it comes to these critters. This is the otter that I picked up last Feb. in S.GA, 60" 40lb rascal. I stretched and fleshed out the skin then worked it soft but stiff enough to use it as possible bag or quiver skin. Dick James, if you're out there. Hi, haven't talked to you in awhile. Hope all it well. Frank - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 04:59:45 +0000 From: "Sean Boushie" Subject: MtMan-List: David Thompson Shoot Hello the list, For any of you close to Montana here's a shoot I've been involved with for the last 15 years. It's not a true Rendzvous, but we do have a primitive area, no paper targets. Everything goes bang, clang or boom. In addition there's some points for stuff like trap settin, rock throwin, spear chuckin and maybe a devious egg perdicament once in a while. Anyhow, please note entry fee is all inclusive, no blanket prize needed. You don't really even need to bring food if you don't want, we have 4H kids nearby selling all three meals cheap, and its close to town. Hope to se you there. DAVID THOMPSON BLACK POWDER SHOOT Hosted by TOBACCO RIVER MUZZLELOADERS APRIL 25-26-27 EUREKA, MT. New Format-New Location-New Scoring=New Fun Events: Rifle Trailwalk, Pistol Trailwalk, Knife & Hawk Trailwalk & Skills event All added into one aggregate score Parade in town at 12:00 Sat.- Walk with us and have a chance for a great Prize Bus ride available to and from parade Sat. At 5:30 Horse Archery Demo Sat. at 6:00 � Team Shoot with great prizes for the top 2 Teams Teams will be drawn at random Aggregate Prizes for all All this for $15 adults - $5 Juniors Drinking Water, Firewood and FOOD available Traders welcome � Separate Primitive Camp Lots of Tin Tepee parking � Easy Access Go North from Eureka toward Canada on Hwy.93 for 1 mile- -Watch for sign Patched Roundball � Open Iron Sights SAFETY FIRST NO ALCOHOL OR SMOKING WHILE COMPETING!!! CALL: JOE (406)882- 4691 DENNIS (406) 889-3017 MARK (406)889-8120 Candy Cannon - Sat.- Before Team shoot Sun � Before Awards _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 21:13:34 -0800 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Otter skin stank : MtMan-List: Otter skin stank > How do you trappers and skinners get rid of the fishy smell from otter and beaver skins? Yupper, just a little green when it comes to these critters. Most folks daub a bit o' sweet water around there to get past that fishy smell and others of us just get used to it by eating a lot of tuna and smoked herring right out of the can. You can put some perfume under your nose too. Nuther thing you can do is let the dog roll in them and hope he takes the smell with him when he runs off after them cats. > > This is the otter that I picked up last Feb. in S.GA, 60" 40lb rascal. I stretched and fleshed out the skin then worked it soft but stiff enough to use it as possible bag or quiver skin. Bet she's going to look fine hangin on your shoulder you rascal! Why don't you smoke the hide a bit? YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 12:47:17 -0700 From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: How Long? Pat Quilter wrote > As far as one can tell, guns were alwsys kept loaded. Many old "wallhangers" > or guns retrieved from barns or attics still have a load when inspected (I > have seen hair raising tales of them going off when the modern gunsmith is > heating the barrel to release the breech plug). Through personal experience, > I can attest that with ordinary care a flintlock may be kept loaded for days > if not months and still go off when required. Question: were these guns that were left loaded the first load or in other words, with a clean, not already fired, barrel? A fouled barrel would see pitting/ corrosion wouldn't it? Wynn - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #1150 ******************************** - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.