From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #117 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, August 2 1998 Volume 01 : Number 117 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 17:18:13 EDT From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Preserving a Snake Skin In a message dated 98-08-01 14:08:44 EDT, you write: << Please advise your methods of skinning the snake and preserving the skin. >> Skin snake by slitting from middle lower lip to tip of tail. Actually start at the anal opening and work in both directions. Remove excess fat or muscle tissue. Stretch the skin out by tacking or nailing it to a board. Best preservative for snake skins is a mixture of equal amounts of Alum, non- iodized salt and neatsfoot oil. Spread the mixture on thick, it is like an oily paste. Keep adding mixture as it is absorbed or dries. It takes about 7-10 days depending on temperature. The skin is fully cured, preserved and the scales won't shed. I got this recipe from a professional "tanner" in Florida. I have used it on 5 large rattlesnakes and it worked great. Initially the skin is oily from the neatsfoot oil but you can wipe off the excess. Skin can be glued down, but you need to remove excess oil. Only skins I've glued have been on bow backs and I used hide glue. Some folks will soak skins in anti-freeze to preserve. However, this method is not always permanent. Manytimes the skin will shed scales and if the skin gets wet it will rot. Ghosting Wolf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 17:42:27 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Preserving a Snake Skin Take pains to keep the knife blade out of the bladder. Take my word for that!! Lanney Ratcliff - -----Original Message----- From: GHickman@aol.com To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 4:20 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Preserving a Snake Skin >In a message dated 98-08-01 14:08:44 EDT, you write: > ><< Please advise your methods of skinning the > snake and preserving the skin. >> > >Skin snake by slitting from middle lower lip to tip of tail. Actually start at >the anal opening and work in both directions. Remove excess fat or muscle >tissue. Stretch the skin out by tacking or nailing it to a board. Best >preservative for snake skins is a mixture of equal amounts of Alum, non- >iodized salt and neatsfoot oil. Spread the mixture on thick, it is like an >oily paste. Keep adding mixture as it is absorbed or dries. It takes about >7-10 days depending on temperature. The skin is fully cured, preserved and the >scales won't shed. I got this recipe from a professional "tanner" in Florida. >I have used it on 5 large rattlesnakes and it worked great. Initially the skin >is oily from the neatsfoot oil but you can wipe off the excess. Skin can be >glued down, but you need to remove excess oil. Only skins I've glued have been >on bow backs and I used hide glue. Some folks will soak skins in anti-freeze >to preserve. However, this method is not always permanent. Manytimes the skin >will shed scales and if the skin gets wet it will rot. > >Ghosting Wolf > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 16:53:58 -0600 From: jbrandl@wyoming.com (Joe Brandl) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: commercial leather clothes John, If you first rough up the smooth side of the hide, it will assist in the dyeing. Rit dye is Ok, I like to use a commercial powered leather dye, It is very expensive but you use very little. I carry small amount of it on hand. I can't remember what I paid for it but will check and get back to you. air brushing with a leather dye such as Flembing or a concetrated amt of powered leather dye mixed with water. Costume designers use what is called "fullers dirt" I get it from a Hollywood costume studio. Always start with a light amt to see what the leather does with the dye, then go darker if you wish or wash with some bleach to lighten. Joe Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440 Write for custom tanning prices We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather and hair on robes Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, baskets check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 17:19:25 -0600 From: jbrandl@wyoming.com (Joe Brandl) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Preserving a Snake Skin Phil, One of the best means of tanning a snake skin is by using glyerin, a hand softner. I usually get the kind with rose water in it as it makes the skin smell better. Use a pair of small scissors and cut the snake up the belly, be careful around the anus and on down the tail. pull the skin slowly off from the head to the tail. Once the skin is off, scrape any fat and conective tissure from flesh side. I like to use a paper stapler to staple the skin flesh side up to a pine board. Allow the skin to dry first than pour some glyerin on the skin and rub in. put on about 2 or 3 coats. allow each coat to dry, Use a razor to cut the skin from the staples. or you can pull all those things. Joe Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440 Write for custom tanning prices We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather and hair on robes Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, baskets check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 19:06:19 -0500 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Preserving a Snake Skin I would note there is a distinct difference in the quality neatsfoot oils. I have had excellent results with "pure neatsfoot oil" I have had distressing results (read: ruined leather) with "compounded neatsfoot oil." Compounded is the most common you find, be sure of what you buy. If you use hot hide glue it will stick the hide down nicely.Do clean off excess oil first, a little alcohol should help. I skinned several snakes as a kid, I remember slitting them stem to stern and peeling the skin off like a grape, pulling with a pair of pliers. Skins hold up pretty well if you simply scrape them clean and tack flesh side up on a board and dry them. I think I used a couple boxes of my mother sewing pins. I wore a copperhead done that way for several years as a hat band and think it may still be laying around somewhere, now 40 some years latter. There was some scale flaking and last I saw, it looked pretty sad, so a little dressing can't hurt, the first recipe below sounds about right. The anti-freeze leaves me cold. Might want to thaw your critter out first. John... At 05:18 PM 8/1/98 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-08-01 14:08:44 EDT, you write: > ><< Please advise your methods of skinning the > snake and preserving the skin. >> > >Skin snake by slitting from middle lower lip to tip of tail. Actually start at >the anal opening and work in both directions. Remove excess fat or muscle >tissue. Stretch the skin out by tacking or nailing it to a board. Best >preservative for snake skins is a mixture of equal amounts of Alum, non- >iodized salt and neatsfoot oil. Spread the mixture on thick, it is like an >oily paste. Keep adding mixture as it is absorbed or dries. It takes about >7-10 days depending on temperature. The skin is fully cured, preserved and the >scales won't shed. I got this recipe from a professional "tanner" in Florida. >I have used it on 5 large rattlesnakes and it worked great. Initially the skin >is oily from the neatsfoot oil but you can wipe off the excess. Skin can be >glued down, but you need to remove excess oil. Only skins I've glued have been >on bow backs and I used hide glue. Some folks will soak skins in anti-freeze >to preserve. However, this method is not always permanent. Manytimes the skin >will shed scales and if the skin gets wet it will rot. > >Ghosting Wolf > Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. John Kramer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:05:25 -0500 (CDT) From: pwjones@onr.com Subject: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Regard to the List: Having just returned from the Canoe Trip From Hell, I have decided my remaining energy and ask two questions at the same time. First, however, thank you to everyone who sent me information or opinions about painting a poly canoe. It was useful. Second, if I had tried to paint the canoe, this weekend would have "antiqued" it to death. Only 10 to 13 miles, at least two of which was dragging or carrying canoes over rocks or shallows. A joy as the weight was unusual as we took a great deal of water due to the weather. 103 degrees actual temperature. The owner of the property where we started stated several matters which should have given us a clue. {{{{Dam (our unexpected takeout as everyone was in a state of collaspe) is "Oh, bout ten or so miles or so. Never been that far down river. Suspect you will do a little walking. Don't expect no breeze between the steep banks."}}}}} The only point he was accurate on pertained to the breeze, and then only to a degree. As we melted, searching of a snippet of shade, we needed a breeze or three to cool the sweat. When we did hit water, and I mean where it was of a depth where a paddle stroke would make the canoe go forward, the wind was strong in our faces." Mother Jones raised a fool. Questions: Where can I purchase fresh buffalo meat which can be delivered via air for a rendezvous? What cuts do you recommend? Can you give me some suggestions for shooting events that are not, I repeat not, related to paper targets? The more historically correct, or unusal the better. Thanks again. I love this list. Mother Jones' Better Forgotten Son Paul W. Jones pwjones@onr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 17:58:56 -0700 From: j2hearts@juno.com (john c funk,jr) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Preserving a Snake Skin Phil, Yes, you can glue a skinned snake hide if you don't salt it. And, that is critical. Don't salt it. It can be glued with hide glue to leather quite easily. Take a pair of sharp siccors and cut it up the middle. Peel off the meat, bone (body) from the skin. DO NOT SCRAPE, but do remove any "meat". Roll up the skin if you want keep it and freeze if you want to save it. If your ready to use it, rub hide glue into the skin AND the piece of leather you want it to adhere to. Apply pressure (not heavy pressure) to both sides and let dry. Since your snake is frozen it must be thawed and used immediately. It cannot (should not) be refrozen. If you don't plan on using it right away, don't do anything till your ready. Good luck John Funk Man is judged not so much by the friends he keeps but by the ones that will call him friend. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:12:10 -0400 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Pablo... Tolt ya there wern't no damn water left enough to canoe on....And whats a matter..Loose your shootin iron in a crooked whist game? Caint shoot yer own damn meat!?!?! Dennis "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accouterments http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 - -----Original Message----- From: pwjones@onr.com To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 9:14 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events >Regard to the List: > >Having just returned from the Canoe Trip From Hell, I have decided my >remaining energy and ask two questions at the same time. > >First, however, thank you to everyone who sent me information or opinions >about painting a poly canoe. It was useful. > >Second, if I had tried to paint the canoe, this weekend would have >"antiqued" it to death. Only 10 to 13 miles, at least two of which was >dragging or carrying canoes over rocks or shallows. A joy as the weight was >unusual as we took a great deal of water due to the weather. 103 degrees >actual temperature. The owner of the property where we started stated >several matters which should have given us a clue. {{{{Dam (our unexpected >takeout as everyone was in a state of collaspe) is "Oh, bout ten or so miles >or so. Never been that far down river. Suspect you will do a little >walking. Don't expect no breeze between the steep banks."}}}}} > >The only point he was accurate on pertained to the breeze, and then only to >a degree. As we melted, searching of a snippet of shade, we needed a >breeze or three to cool the sweat. When we did hit water, and I mean where >it was of a depth where a paddle stroke would make the canoe go forward, the >wind was strong in our faces." > >Mother Jones raised a fool. > >Questions: > >Where can I purchase fresh buffalo meat which can be delivered via air for a >rendezvous? What cuts do you recommend? > >Can you give me some suggestions for shooting events that are not, I repeat >not, related to paper targets? The more historically correct, or unusal the >better. > >Thanks again. I love this list. > >Mother Jones' Better Forgotten Son >Paul W. Jones >pwjones@onr.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 20:42:39 +0000 From: Joseph Miller Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Dear Paul, pwjones@onr.com wrote: > Questions: > Where can I purchase fresh buffalo meat which can be delivered via air for a rendezvous? What cuts do >you recommend? I have a couple local contacts here in Colorado. Where does it need to be shipped to and how many tons you need? Also, when you need it by? Sincerely, Joe - -- Friends of Bill W. and Dr. Bob, Welcome! To be Happy, Joyous and Free Joseph Miller, Webmaster http://www.Colorado-Mall.com For information on leasing mall space E-mail: leasing@Colorado-Mall.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:00:26 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Pablo, ol' sod Sorry fer yer troubles but at least ye warn't sleepin' with no grizzly bars. I betcha ye wuz moppin' yore head with a blue hankie, too. Reckon ye could run me up a copy of thet real purty poem again? I cain't find mine ennywhar. Thankee kindly Big Zwey - -----Original Message----- From: pwjones@onr.com To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 8:05 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events >Regard to the List: > >Having just returned from the Canoe Trip From Hell, I have decided my >remaining energy and ask two questions at the same time. > >First, however, thank you to everyone who sent me information or opinions >about painting a poly canoe. It was useful. > >Second, if I had tried to paint the canoe, this weekend would have >"antiqued" it to death. Only 10 to 13 miles, at least two of which was >dragging or carrying canoes over rocks or shallows. A joy as the weight was >unusual as we took a great deal of water due to the weather. 103 degrees >actual temperature. The owner of the property where we started stated >several matters which should have given us a clue. {{{{Dam (our unexpected >takeout as everyone was in a state of collaspe) is "Oh, bout ten or so miles >or so. Never been that far down river. Suspect you will do a little >walking. Don't expect no breeze between the steep banks."}}}}} > >The only point he was accurate on pertained to the breeze, and then only to >a degree. As we melted, searching of a snippet of shade, we needed a >breeze or three to cool the sweat. When we did hit water, and I mean where >it was of a depth where a paddle stroke would make the canoe go forward, the >wind was strong in our faces." > >Mother Jones raised a fool. > >Questions: > >Where can I purchase fresh buffalo meat which can be delivered via air for a >rendezvous? What cuts do you recommend? > >Can you give me some suggestions for shooting events that are not, I repeat >not, related to paper targets? The more historically correct, or unusal the >better. > >Thanks again. I love this list. > >Mother Jones' Better Forgotten Son >Paul W. Jones >pwjones@onr.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:00:29 -0400 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Lanny, I thinks I got a copy of that bee-ute-e-ful tome around here some wheres.. Reckon it oughta be shared with the list?? Dennis "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accouterments http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 - -----Original Message----- From: Lanney Ratcliff To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 11:06 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events >Pablo, ol' sod >Sorry fer yer troubles but at least ye warn't sleepin' with no grizzly bars. >I betcha ye wuz moppin' yore head with a blue hankie, too. Reckon ye could >run me up a copy of thet real purty poem again? I cain't find mine >ennywhar. >Thankee kindly >Big Zwey >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:11:40 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Dennis I wouldn't mind, but Hiawatha knows where we each live. "Abair, etc, etc" WTF,O? Lanney - -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Miles To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 10:02 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events >Lanny, > I thinks I got a copy of that bee-ute-e-ful tome around here some wheres.. >Reckon it oughta be shared with the list?? >Dennis > "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" > DOUBLE EDGE FORGE > Period Knives & Iron Accouterments > http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 >-----Original Message----- >From: Lanney Ratcliff >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 11:06 PM >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events > > >>Pablo, ol' sod >>Sorry fer yer troubles but at least ye warn't sleepin' with no grizzly >bars. >>I betcha ye wuz moppin' yore head with a blue hankie, too. Reckon ye could >>run me up a copy of thet real purty poem again? I cain't find mine >>ennywhar. >>Thankee kindly >>Big Zwey >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:10:38 -0400 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Lanny, You have a point....But if I can find it.. What the hell..... It means.. "Say Little, But Say It Well" (Scot's Gaelic) D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accouterments http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 - -----Original Message----- From: Lanney Ratcliff To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 11:18 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events >Dennis >I wouldn't mind, but Hiawatha knows where we each live. "Abair, etc, etc" >WTF,O? >Lanney ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:16:41 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events I knew that. - -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Miles To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 10:12 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events >Lanny, >You have a point....But if I can find it.. What the hell..... > It means.. "Say Little, But Say It Well" (Scot's Gaelic) >D > > "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" > DOUBLE EDGE FORGE > Period Knives & Iron Accouterments > http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 >-----Original Message----- >From: Lanney Ratcliff >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 11:18 PM >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events > > >>Dennis >>I wouldn't mind, but Hiawatha knows where we each live. "Abair, etc, etc" >>WTF,O? >>Lanney > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 23:13:20 -0400 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Yeah, Uh huh... "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accouterments http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 - -----Original Message----- From: Lanney Ratcliff To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 11:22 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events >I knew that. >-----Original Message----- >From: Dennis Miles >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 10:12 PM >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events > > >>Lanny, >>You have a point....But if I can find it.. What the hell..... >> It means.. "Say Little, But Say It Well" (Scot's Gaelic) >>D >> >> "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" >> DOUBLE EDGE FORGE >> Period Knives & Iron Accouterments >> http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Lanney Ratcliff >>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >>Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 11:18 PM >>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events >> >> >>>Dennis >>>I wouldn't mind, but Hiawatha knows where we each live. "Abair, etc, etc" >>>WTF,O? >>>Lanney >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 03:18:13 GMT From: bamafan@Traveller.COM (PHIL PETERSEN) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Hi Joe. I am a friend of Bill W. and Dr. Bob! Ain't it a wonderful way of life! Phil >Dear Paul, >pwjones@onr.com wrote: >> Questions: >> Where can I purchase fresh buffalo meat which can be delivered via air for a rendezvous? What cuts do >you recommend? > > >I have a couple local contacts here in Colorado. Where does it need to >be shipped to and how many tons you need? >Also, when you need it by? >Sincerely, >Joe > > >-- >Friends of Bill W. and Dr. Bob, Welcome! >To be Happy, Joyous and Free >Joseph Miller, Webmaster >http://www.Colorado-Mall.com >For information on leasing mall space >E-mail: leasing@Colorado-Mall.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Aug 1998 23:37:17 -0500 From: Jim Colburn Subject: MtMan-List: Lucien Fontanelle's Hunting Pouch???? Washtahay- In a word, NO. But a very interesting bag nonetheless...It was worth the 5 hours it took to go and examine it. Typical hunting bag, single pocket about 8" wide, 9" tall. Beavertail flap. Strap was adjustable with a buckle. One tooled line on each side of the strap. Production horn attached-with a battered wood measure-to straps integral with the shoulder strap-just strips cut off the side. Leather was about 3/16" thick. No other accouterments. The bag was professionally done. I am inclined to think it was a production item, as I have seen one like it in southern Missouri, and heard of another in South Dakota. It was sewn with 2 lines of stitches on a machine. The stitches were "single-thread chain stitch"-as used by one of the very early sewing machines. Based on my limited research into the history of sewing machines, it would probably post-date 1849. But a very nice bag. What has me wondering are the notes accompanying the bag and other items in the small collection. The notes, with various dates in the late 1850s, stated the bag had belonged to "L. Fontanel". There were several items of Indian origin in the collection, some attributed to the "Shian", others were attributed to the "Sou". (This man was a worse speller than almost anyone I know-I saw two spellings of the word 'fort', the rest was similar). I am wondering if the bag could have belonged to Logan Fontenelle-son of Lucien Fontenelle. I seem to recall he was killed by the Sioux in 1855. It makes for some interesting speculation, at least. Does anyone have any solid information about him (Logan)? All I have is a few references. LongWalker c. du B ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 01:42:06 EDT From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Lietzau Taxidermy sells a "buffalo sampler" approximately 25 poounds of all different cuts and ground. Air Freighted in dry ice. PJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 03:55:51 EDT From: Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Rit Dye Remover for Hides(Blue Hides) In a message dated 98-08-01 15:19:23 EDT, you write: << ----------(Stuff Deleted)----------- It doesn't surprise me about that sky blue leather...God knows how the color is applied.----------(Stuff Deleted)----------- >> In the case of these blue hides.......there is a guy that makes the rendezvous circuit in out area that allways has a stack of these things. The blue color of these hides is the result of the tanning process used on these hides, they aren't dyed blue. Sorry, an't for the life of me remember what type of process he said was used. In this case, some folks have good success using Rit Dye to get them to an acceptable color. Longshot ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 07:44:45 -0500 (CDT) From: pwjones@onr.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Boy were you right. No buff as some yankee bastards killed them all for sport. Need the paperless shooting information as I will be range master at a rendezvous in October and I want to fuck over all of the elitist paper punching bastards. One idea is "gentlemen, sit in the canoe. on command you will realize Indians are attacking. you will shoot at xxx target over your shoulder. you will then lay flat in the canoe to avoid the arrows being shot at your ass and reload, points deducted for exposted body parts or weapons and on command shot at target xxx22. Get the drift. Prices have been greatly reduced as to many of the fishing items. Will call today when my hand is strong enough to lift the phone. Paul >Pablo... > Tolt ya there wern't no damn water left enough to canoe on....And whats a >matter..Loose your shootin iron in a crooked whist game? Caint shoot yer own >damn meat!?!?! >Dennis > > > "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" > DOUBLE EDGE FORGE > Period Knives & Iron Accouterments > http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1 >-----Original Message----- >From: pwjones@onr.com >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Date: Saturday, August 01, 1998 9:14 PM >Subject: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events > > >>Regard to the List: >> >>Having just returned from the Canoe Trip From Hell, I have decided my >>remaining energy and ask two questions at the same time. >> >>First, however, thank you to everyone who sent me information or opinions >>about painting a poly canoe. It was useful. >> >>Second, if I had tried to paint the canoe, this weekend would have >>"antiqued" it to death. Only 10 to 13 miles, at least two of which was >>dragging or carrying canoes over rocks or shallows. A joy as the weight >was >>unusual as we took a great deal of water due to the weather. 103 degrees >>actual temperature. The owner of the property where we started stated >>several matters which should have given us a clue. {{{{Dam (our unexpected >>takeout as everyone was in a state of collaspe) is "Oh, bout ten or so >miles >>or so. Never been that far down river. Suspect you will do a little >>walking. Don't expect no breeze between the steep banks."}}}}} >> >>The only point he was accurate on pertained to the breeze, and then only to >>a degree. As we melted, searching of a snippet of shade, we needed a >>breeze or three to cool the sweat. When we did hit water, and I mean where >>it was of a depth where a paddle stroke would make the canoe go forward, >the >>wind was strong in our faces." >> >>Mother Jones raised a fool. >> >>Questions: >> >>Where can I purchase fresh buffalo meat which can be delivered via air for >a >>rendezvous? What cuts do you recommend? >> >>Can you give me some suggestions for shooting events that are not, I repeat >>not, related to paper targets? The more historically correct, or unusal >the >>better. >> >>Thanks again. I love this list. >> >>Mother Jones' Better Forgotten Son >>Paul W. Jones >>pwjones@onr.com >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 07:48:53 -0500 (CDT) From: pwjones@onr.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Boys: Think meat and more importantly, paperless shooting targets and contests. Do not, I repeat, do not spread that bloody poem. Friendship and Brotherhood has its limits. Besides,I am "saved" as this weekend gave me the John Wayne experience of drinking out of a hoof print. Paul >Lanny, > I thinks I got a copy of that bee-ute-e-ful tome around here some wheres.. >Reckon it oughta be shared with the list?? >Dennis > >>Pablo, ol' sod >>Sorry fer yer troubles but at least ye warn't sleepin' with no grizzly >bars. >>I betcha ye wuz moppin' yore head with a blue hankie, too. Reckon ye could >>run me up a copy of thet real purty poem again? I cain't find mine >>ennywhar. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 07:59:25 -0500 (CDT) From: pwjones@onr.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events Dear List: Responding to a friends post, and not paying the least attention to the point of origin, I used a forbidden four letter word. I just realized my unforgiveable error, and I sincerely apologize to any and all who are offended by the use of the word, and/or my inattention to protocol. Paul Paul W. Jones pwjones@onr.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 08:00:03 -0500 (CDT) From: pwjones@onr.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events >Lietzau Taxidermy sells a "buffalo sampler" approximately 25 poounds of all >different cuts and ground. Air Freighted in dry ice. PJ > > Thanks for the information. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:17:06 -0400 From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events But Pablo, The poem is an inspiring piece of art. You really think that I should not share it with the liste..?? My, I believe that sounded like a not_so_veiled threat...And to me that is a double dog dare.. D >Do not, I repeat, do not spread that bloody poem. Friendship and >Brotherhood has its limits. Besides,I am "saved" as this weekend gave me >the John Wayne experience of drinking out of a hoof print. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:33:37 -0500 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events POTTY MOUTH!!! - -----Original Message----- From: pwjones@onr.com To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, August 02, 1998 8:00 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Buffalo Meat and Shooting Events >Dear List: Responding to a friends post, and not paying the least attention >to the point of origin, I used a forbidden four letter word. I just >realized my unforgiveable error, and I sincerely apologize to any and all >who are offended by the use of the word, and/or my inattention to protocol. > >Paul >Paul W. Jones >pwjones@onr.com > > > ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #117 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. 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