From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1283 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, December 16 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1283 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: waterproffing -       Re: MtMan-List: engraving tools -       Re: MtMan-List: engraving tools -       Re: MtMan-List: engraving tools -       RE: MtMan-List: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=is-8859-1 -       Re: MtMan-List: engraving tools -       RE: MtMan-List: Wood Carving Tools -       MtMan-List: canvas ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:11:47 -0800 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: waterproffing I keep forgetting that recipe and I have all the ingredients too, well perhaps not the mink oil but that is easy to come by. Got to remember to make up a batch. Thanks for the reminder Black Shirt. Capt. Lahti' - ----- Original Message ----- From: "RICK TABOR" To: Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:25 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: waterproffing > I used to own a shoe repair store.( Ill have another real soon) The absolute > best waterproofing product I ever used was called "Montana Pitch Blend" . It > is equal parts mink oil, pine pitch,& beeswax.Send me your address and Ill > send you some. > Rick > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get holiday tips for festive fun. > http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:40:19 EST From: ThisOldFox@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: engraving tools - -------------------------------1071153619 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to do a little engraving on my new rifle kit (wood). Does anyone know a good place to get a few hand knives/chisels to do a basic engraving job? Beaverboy, You might want to try making your own. If you work you way around he website below, it contains info on making gravers from masonry nails. You can also make them from drill rod or any material that can be hardened. The square graver is the most commonly used for muzzleloading type engraving. http://www.elektricanvil.net/techniques/touchmark/ - -------------------------------1071153619 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
   I want to do a little engraving o= n my new rifle kit (wood). Does anyone
know a good place to get a few han= d knives/chisels to do a basic
engraving job?
Beaverboy,
You might want to try making your own.  If you work you way around= he website below, it contains info on making gravers from masonry nail= s.  You can also make them from drill rod or any material that can be h= ardened.  The square graver is the most commonly used for muzzleloading= type engraving.
 
http://w= ww.elektricanvil.net/techniques/touchmark/
- -------------------------------1071153619-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:54:43 -0800 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: engraving tools This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C3BFCC.CD348270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/assets/html/homepage.asp?URLCheck=3D1= http://www.leevalley.com/ bb. The two companies above Lehigh Valley and Woodcrafters sell quality wood = working tools including carving chisels. I think you can get a small set = for around $20 or so.=20 Hope this helps.=20 Do a web search for wood working tools for more links. Capt. Lahti' - ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C3BFCC.CD348270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
http://shop.woodcraft.com/Woodcraft/assets/html/homepage.asp?UR= LCheck=3D1
 
http://www.leevalley.com/
 
bb.
 
The two companies above Lehigh Valley and Woodcrafters sell quality = wood=20 working tools including carving chisels. I think you can get a small set = for=20 around $20 or so.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Do a web search for wood working tools for more links.
 
Capt. Lahti'
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C3BFCC.CD348270-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:56:26 -0800 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: engraving tools This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C3BFCD.0A67C6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bb, The links on that last post were correct but it's Lee Valley not Lehigh. = Capt. Lahti' - ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C3BFCD.0A67C6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
bb,
 
The links on that last post = were correct=20 but it's Lee Valley not Lehigh.
 
Capt. Lahti'
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C3BFCD.0A67C6C0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:05:47 -0600 From: "Thom Frazier" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=is-8859-1 bb, I take from your question that you are interested in "carving" tools as that is what we do to wood. Engraving is to metal. I teach gun building at our shop here and would be glad to help you get started. Contact me at mnthom@arvig.net or 218-385-2074, as the discussion on carving is fairly lengthy. Your Servant Thom Frazier Weeping Heart Gunn Shoppe New York Mills MN - -----Original Message----- From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of beaverboy@sofast.net Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:51 PM To: hist_text@xmission.com Subject: MtMan-List: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Dear List, I want to do a little engraving on my new rifle kit (wood). Does anyone know a good place to get a few hand knives/chisels to do a basic engraving job? Thanks for any help bb - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:07:37 -0500 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: engraving tools beaverboy--- can get engravers from most gunsmithing supply places or make your own out of good tool steel that can be tempered or use a tool like danny caywood uses made out of a high speed steel cutoff tool and ground to a very shallow chizzle point less than 10 degr. it gives you two cutting edges with one sharpening that way it is easy to sharpen and you put a brass end on it and can use a small chasing hammer----- to use it the flatter you let the tool lay on the stock the wider the cut the more horizontal to the metal the thinner the cut and the more you raise the tail of the cutter the deeper it goes---a lot depends on if you want to use push type of cutters or chaseing tools---you got a big learning curve to do ingraving and you will need to practice ---the big key is to keep the cutters charp as sharp as a inletting chizzel---my suggestion is to look in brownells or track or even the dixie catalog and pick up a couple to play with would cost less than $20.00 and you will have something to play with a square end cutter is usually used to do chicken track or wobble cutting not common engraving----- page 411 og the track catalog has engravers and their handels and a chasing hammer---they show 6 different kinds of gravers tips---i like the onglette and the knife tools if i am not doing chicken track engraving remember to relieve the tip slightlt and keep it sharp--- now it was not real clear if you were looking to carve the wood or the metal so the above is for the metal---if you mean to do incise carving then track also has carving chizzles as a start get apn 7103 3mm v gouge $21.50 and a pn 7204 3mm wide straight cut $13.50 and a pn 7404 4mm skew chizzle$14.00---these are german made and hold a good edge ----for a carving knife use a fat handel x-acto knife with the heavy carving blade----again the real art is to keep them sharp and i mean real sharp--- if you have a woodcrafters store near you go in and look at their stock and selection---a set of miniture miller falls will run over 50 dollers but will last a lifetime---get yourself a good strap to sharpen with and use it often---" a dull chizzel tears and a sharp one cuts"--- practice befor you start then go slow and make a good pencil layout on the wood---use your wifes emry boards for the sanding and finishing Nuff Said----- "Hawk" ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:35:11 -0700 (MST) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Wood Carving Tools Thank you everyone for the wood carving tips. I will look at some tools now before I have anymore questions. Thanks for all the links too. bb > bb, I take from your question that you are interested in "carving" tools > as > that is what we do to wood. Engraving is to metal. I teach gun building at > our shop here and would be glad to help you get started. Contact me at > mnthom@arvig.net or 218-385-2074, as the discussion on carving is fairly > lengthy. > Your Servant > Thom Frazier > Weeping Heart Gunn Shoppe > New York Mills MN > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > beaverboy@sofast.net > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:51 PM > To: hist_text@xmission.com > Subject: MtMan-List: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > > Dear List, > I want to do a little engraving on my new rifle kit (wood). Does anyone > know a good place to get a few hand knives/chisels to do a basic > engraving job? > Thanks for any help > bb > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 10:38:03 -0700 From: John.Moyer@UCHSC.edu Subject: MtMan-List: canvas This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3C3FB.5B8A6E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wonder if anybody reading this can help me find an answer to the question...when did canvas first become available to the Native Americans, particularly the Southern Cheyenne. When did the Plains Indians first build lodges out of canvas? Thanks. JPM =20 John P. Moyer MD FAAP Clinical Professor of Pediatrics Associate Director Foundations of Doctoring Curriculum CU School of Medicine 4200 East 9th Avenue Denver 80262 CO 303-315-1546 FAX 303-315-1778 John.Moyer @uchsc.edu =20 - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3C3FB.5B8A6E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wonder if anybody reading this can help me find an = answer to the question…when did canvas first = become available to the Native Americans, particularly the = Southern Cheyenne. When did the Plains = Indians first build lodges out of canvas?

Thanks.

JPM

 

John P. Moyer MD = FAAP

Clinical Professor of = Pediatrics

Associate Director Foundations of Doctoring = Curriculum

CU = School of Medicine

4200 East 9th = Avenue

Denver 80262 CO

303-315-1546

FAX 303-315-1778=

John.Moyer = @uchsc.edu

 

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