From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1299 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Friday, January 16 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1299 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy -       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT -       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy -       Re: MtMan-List: Packframe/Pack Basket/Knapsack?? -       Re: MtMan-List: packframe, now water -       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT -       MtMan-List: Re: Compressed water, now Water guns -       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT -       Re: MtMan-List: packframe, now water -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: Compressed water, now Water guns -       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT -       Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT -       MtMan-List: Request for information ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 21:36:20 -0800 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C3D88A.F4207480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable George, We know all this already. Capt. L ----- Original Message -----=20 From: George Noe=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 5:18 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy roger lahti wrote:=20 I think as long as I don't use it to talk funny around the camp fire = I should be ok. Capt. L The Helium is what makes you talk funny. When Hydrogen burns with Oxygen it produces water. I guess you could just carry one container of of hydrogen (twice as = big as the Oxygen container) and one of Oxygen. Just burn them and condense the vapor ot a liquid. Two parts Hydrogen + one part Oxygen =3D 2 H2O Capt. Hope we don't have to say "Rember the Hindinburg" . I think I may experiment with using hydrogen instead of helium. It burns well = and could be used as an emergency fuel if necessary after the water is used = up. George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com >=20 Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes - ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C3D88A.F4207480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
George,
 
We know all this=20 already.
 
Capt. L
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 George = Noe
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 = 5:18=20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water = Packing=20 Sissy



roger lahti <amm1719@charter.net> = wrote:=20
 
 
 
I think as long as = I don't use=20 it to talk funny around the camp fire I should be ok.
 
Capt. L The Helium = is what=20 makes you talk  funny.
 When Hydrogen burns = with Oxygen=20 it produces water.
 I guess you could = just carry=20 one container of of hydrogen (twice as big as the Oxygen container) = and one=20 of Oxygen.
 Just burn them and = condense the=20 vapor ot a liquid.
Two parts Hydrogen + one = part=20 Oxygen =3D 2 H2O
Capt.
 Hope we don't have to say "Rember the = Hindinburg"

. I think I may
experiment with using hydrogen instead of helium. It burns = well and=20 could be
used as an emergency fuel if necessary after the = water is=20 used up.

=  


George=20 R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com >
Watch your back trail, and keep = your eyes=20 on the skyline.

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Not compress water (liquid)?...I suppose you'll try to tell us we can't convert lead to Gold...?   Get with it....  Wanna buy shares in the fountain of youth, we found it at the AMM Eastern in Florida , 2000.   See you soon brother.    hardtack
 
 
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Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT

You do realize, don't you, that somebody on this list is likely not to see all your tongues in your collective cheeks and might actually think that you can compress water?  We had a technician at my lab who was convinced that water could be compressed and simply would not listen to facts. One of our testing devices utilitized Boyles's Law and he confused the compression of air in one part of the device and thought the water in the OTHER part of the device was being compressed during the testing procedure. He eventually moved on to a competitor's lab where he is probably still in a fog.  He was a nice kid who was proud of playing in the Praise and Glory Band at church.
Lanney
- ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 04:40:10 -0800 (PST) From: Larson Harsey Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy - --0-1688133534-1073911210=:99554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think having a filter would help in some way also. Thanks The posibilities are unlimited. Wynn Ormond wrote: Larson Harsey wrote in part: I seams if I carry enough hydrogen, I can just use it with air along the trail and make water when I need it. Dear Larson: I have never carried hydgrogen with me on period camps but I have made water along the trail and have found it not only heplful but almost indespinsible. You oatta try it sometime. Wynn Ormond - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes - --0-1688133534-1073911210=:99554 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I think having a filter would help in some way also.  Thanks  The posibilities are unlimited.

Wynn Ormond <cheyenne@pcu.net> wrote:
 
 wrote in part:
 
 I seams if I carry enough hydrogen, I can just use it with air along the trail and make water when I need it. 
 
 
 
Dear Larson:
 
I have never carried hydgrogen with me on period camps but I have made water along the trail and have found it not only heplful but almost indespinsible.   You oatta try it sometime.
 
Wynn Ormond
 

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I honestly don't know.    I've been using it for a while now, and I no longer remember the origin.   I think it's pretty true though.    :)
 
Todd

Wynn Ormond <cheyenne@pcu.net> wrote:
Todd
There is a quote in the marks at the bottom of your post.  Can you tell me the source?  Thank You
Wynn
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Packframe/Pack Basket/Knapsack??

Roger, how does AuaPur handle chemical contaminants, like fertilizer runoff etc?    Some of the areas I hike around in have been contaminated upstream.    But, you are dead on with regard to water.    I remember the fun I had trying to document a civilian impression water container for a longhunter.  There wasn't one.  They followed the streams, and drank from them.   Why carry it when your paddling on it.  :)    Wish we could still say the same thing.  
 
Todd
Missouri Territory
"the only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes"
- --0-100894081-1073917109=:56897-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:21:47 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Schrivener Subject: Re: MtMan-List: packframe, now water - --0-59808888-1073917307=:42394 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yup. A stream I used to hike along and fish in as a kid is sterile now, unless you count the massive amounts of fecal choloroforms that are in there from an upstream feed lot. Signs all over the thing prohibiting wading, fishing, swimming etc. The stream even LOOKS ill. Todd "the only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes" Frank Fusco wrote: Capt'n said, That may be true if you are only worried about runoff contaminants and being killed quickly. But those runoffs can make one mighty ill and have long term effects that may not be immediately identified with drinking from a certain stream years earlier. And, there are biological contaminants in almost every waterway in the U.S. (and probably world) that may or may not be the result of 'run-offs' that can make one seriously ill. Use of filters for obtaining water in the wilderness is an absolutely necessity for protecting ones health. May not be considered "authentic". But remember suffering horribly and dying young was very "authentic" back then. Frank - --0-59808888-1073917307=:42394 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Yup.    A stream I used to hike along and fish in as a kid is sterile now, unless you count the massive amounts of fecal choloroforms that are in there from an upstream feed lot.   Signs all over the thing prohibiting wading, fishing, swimming etc.    The stream even LOOKS ill.    
 
 
Todd
"the only substitute for good manners is fast reflexes"

Frank Fusco <Rifleman1776@cox-internet.com> wrote:
Capt'n said,
    <Your going to have to drink a lot of water for the runoff contaminants =
to kill you.>
 
    That may be true if you are only worried about runoff contaminants and being killed quickly. But those runoffs can make one mighty ill and have long term effects that may not be immediately identified with drinking from a certain stream years earlier.
    And, there are biological contaminants in almost every waterway in the U.S. (and probably world) that may or may not be the result of 'run-offs' that can make one seriously ill.
    Use of filters for obtaining water in the wilderness is an absolutely necessity for protecting ones health. May not be considered "authentic". But remember suffering horribly and dying young was very "authentic" back then.
Frank
- --0-59808888-1073917307=:42394-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 06:35:34 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Schrivener Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT - --0-364467955-1073918134=:61409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Uh, I'm assuming he's unfamiliar with that whole science called "hydraulics"? That system works for a reason. :) Todd That said, I am assuming that water filters are kinda lumped into the category with modern meds, something that we acknowledge didn't exist, but kinda need anyway? I've been working diligently to pare down my kit to absolulte minimums, and all of it documentable but there are some things I kinda wondered on. Lanney Ratcliff wrote: You do realize, don't you, that somebody on this list is likely not to see all your tongues in your collective cheeks and might actually think that you can compress water? We had a technician at my lab who was convinced that water could be compressed and simply would not listen to facts. One of our testing devices utilitized Boyles's Law and he confused the compression of air in one part of the device and thought the water in the OTHER part of the device was being compressed during the testing procedure. He eventually moved on to a competitor's lab where he is probably still in a fog. He was a nice kid who was proud of playing in the Praise and Glory Band at church. Lanney - --0-364467955-1073918134=:61409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Uh, I'm assuming he's unfamiliar with that whole science called "hydraulics"?     That system works for a reason.   :)
 
Todd
 
That said, I am assuming that water filters are kinda lumped into the category with modern meds, something that we acknowledge didn't exist, but kinda need anyway?    
I've been working diligently to pare down my kit to absolulte minimums, and all of it documentable but there are some things I kinda wondered on.


Lanney Ratcliff <lanneyratcliff@charter.net> wrote:
You do realize, don't you, that somebody on this list is likely not to see all your tongues in your collective cheeks and might actually think that you can compress water?  We had a technician at my lab who was convinced that water could be compressed and simply would not listen to facts. One of our testing devices utilitized Boyles's Law and he confused the compression of air in one part of the device and thought the water in the OTHER part of the device was being compressed during the testing procedure. He eventually moved on to a competitor's lab where he is probably still in a fog.  He was a nice kid who was proud of playing in the Praise and Glory Band at church.
Lanney
- --0-364467955-1073918134=:61409-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 09:15:54 -0700 From: Dennis Knapp Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Compressed water, now Water guns If only Lewis and Clark had our ingenuity, they'd uv used their air rifle to compress water and invented the first "squirt gun" to show off the the Indians. Now that wooda been a sight to see. All you guys have made my Monday morning a hoot. Regards, Dennis Knapp aka Sticher southern Idaho - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:12:06 -0800 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C3D8E3.C472F5B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WE realize that there are those befuddled souls out there who do not = realize a lot of things. One can take being pc and foolproof just so = far. Capt. Lahti' ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lanney Ratcliff=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:15 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT You do realize, don't you, that somebody on this list is likely not to = see all your tongues in your collective cheeks and might actually think = that you can compress water? We had a technician at my lab who was = convinced that water could be compressed and simply would not listen to = facts. One of our testing devices utilitized Boyles's Law and he = confused the compression of air in one part of the device and thought = the water in the OTHER part of the device was being compressed during = the testing procedure. He eventually moved on to a competitor's lab = where he is probably still in a fog. He was a nice kid who was proud of = playing in the Praise and Glory Band at church. Lanney - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C3D8E3.C472F5B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
WE realize that there are those = befuddled=20 souls out there who do not realize a lot of things. One can take being = pc and=20 foolproof just so far. <G>
 
Capt. Lahti'
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Lanney Ratcliff
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 = 9:15=20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water = Packing=20 Sissy..OT

You do = realize, don't=20 you, that somebody on this list is likely not to see all your = tongues in=20 your collective cheeks and might actually think that you can = compress=20 water?  We had a technician at my lab who was convinced that = water could=20 be compressed and simply would not listen to facts. One of our = testing=20 devices utilitized Boyles's Law and he confused the compression = of air in=20 one part of the device and thought the water in the OTHER part of the = device=20 was being compressed during the testing procedure. He = eventually=20 moved on to a competitor's lab where he is probably still in a = fog.  He=20 was a nice kid who was proud of playing in the Praise and Glory Band = at=20 church.
Lanney
- ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C3D8E3.C472F5B0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:29:15 -0800 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: packframe, now water This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C3D8E6.29D72870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If your planning a trek along a stream that is so "dead" you need to = travel to another area to do your walkabout. I'd not be afraid to drink = filtered water coming from the waste water draining off our "Columbia = Basin Project" here in central WA. It's probably the biggest irrigation = project in the west and while there are "things" and "stuff" in the = water, they are not in such concentrates that anyone is going to die = with any surety from a once in a great while filtered/treated drink. There are water sources out west here that, no, I would not drink or = even wade in. YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C3D8E6.29D72870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If your planning a = trek along a=20 stream that is so "dead" you need to travel to another area to do your=20 walkabout. I'd not be afraid to drink filtered water coming from the = waste water=20 draining off our "Columbia Basin Project" here in central WA. It's = probably the=20 biggest irrigation project in the west and while there are "things" and = "stuff"=20 in the water, they are not in such concentrates that anyone is going to = die with=20 any surety from a once in a great while filtered/treated = drink.
 
There are water = sources out west=20 here that, no, I would not drink or even wade in.
 
YMOS
Capt.=20 Lahti'
- ------=_NextPart_000_005E_01C3D8E6.29D72870-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:48:02 -0700 From: James and Sue Stone Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Compressed water, now Water guns Dennis, By putting a llittle indelible color in the water the coup counting techniques could have changed dramatically. There would be those miserable coup-victims going forever about their lives marked with the indelible stains of their enemies. At the same time, it would have been a boon to those who import and/or make dyes. And the West may have been more colorful to this day . Sparks Dennis Knapp wrote: >If only Lewis and Clark had our ingenuity, they'd uv used their air rifle to compress water and invented the first "squirt gun" to show off the the Indians. Now that wooda been a sight to see. All you guys have made my Monday morning a hoot. >Regards, >Dennis Knapp aka Sticher >southern Idaho > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:54:13 -0800 (PST) From: mike stilts Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT - --- Todd Schrivener wrote: > Uh, I'm assuming he's unfamiliar with that whole > science called "hydraulics"? That system works > for a reason. :) > > Todd > > That said, I am assuming that water filters are > kinda lumped into the category with modern meds, > something that we acknowledge didn't exist, but > kinda need anyway? > I've been working diligently to pare down my kit to > absolulte minimums, and all of it documentable but > there are some things I kinda wondered on. > > > Lanney Ratcliff wrote: > You do realize, don't you, that somebody on this > list is likely not to see all your tongues in your > collective cheeks and might actually think that you > can compress water? We had a technician at my lab > who was convinced that water could be compressed and > simply would not listen to facts. One of our testing > devices utilitized Boyles's Law and he confused the > compression of air in one part of the device and > thought the water in the OTHER part of the device > was being compressed during the testing procedure. > He eventually moved on to a competitor's lab where > he is probably still in a fog. He was a nice kid > who was proud of playing in the Praise and Glory > Band at church. > Lanney > MadMt Mike That said, I pared down my kit, All is flint, steel, char patch and a pot to broil the water in. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:55:01 -0700 From: James and Sue Stone Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Water Packing Sissy..OT - --------------020504060906060906000500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike: You can pare down that kit even further! I see a rifle, powder and shot is not included. Therefore you can leave the patches at home, unless you need them for char. Sparks mike stilts wrote: >--- Todd Schrivener wrote: > > >>Uh, I'm assuming he's unfamiliar with that whole >>science called "hydraulics"? That system works >>for a reason. :) >> >>Todd >> >>That said, I am assuming that water filters are >>kinda lumped into the category with modern meds, >>something that we acknowledge didn't exist, but >>kinda need anyway? >>I've been working diligently to pare down my kit to >>absolulte minimums, and all of it documentable but >>there are some things I kinda wondered on. >> >> >>Lanney Ratcliff wrote: >>You do realize, don't you, that somebody on this >>list is likely not to see all your tongues in your >>collective cheeks and might actually think that you >>can compress water? We had a technician at my lab >>who was convinced that water could be compressed and >>simply would not listen to facts. One of our testing >>devices utilitized Boyles's Law and he confused the >>compression of air in one part of the device and >>thought the water in the OTHER part of the device >>was being compressed during the testing procedure. >>He eventually moved on to a competitor's lab where >>he is probably still in a fog. He was a nice kid >>who was proud of playing in the Praise and Glory >>Band at church. >>Lanney >> >> >> >MadMt Mike >That said, I pared down my kit, All is flint, steel, >char patch and a pot to broil the water in. > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes >http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > - --------------020504060906060906000500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike:
You can pare down that kit even further!  I see a rifle, powder and shot is not included.  Therefore you can leave the patches at home, unless you need them for char.
Sparks

mike stilts wrote:
--- Todd Schrivener <farseer@swbell.net> wrote:
  
Uh, I'm assuming he's unfamiliar with that whole
science called "hydraulics"?     That system works
for a reason.   :)
 
Todd
 
That said, I am assuming that water filters are
kinda lumped into the category with modern meds,
something that we acknowledge didn't exist, but
kinda need anyway?     
I've been working diligently to pare down my kit to
absolulte minimums, and all of it documentable but
there are some things I kinda wondered on.


Lanney Ratcliff <lanneyratcliff@charter.net> wrote:
You do realize, don't you, that somebody on this
list is likely not to see all your tongues in your
collective cheeks and might actually think that you
can compress water?  We had a technician at my lab
who was convinced that water could be compressed and
simply would not listen to facts. One of our testing
devices utilitized Boyles's Law and he confused the
compression of air in one part of the device and
thought the water in the OTHER part of the device
was being compressed during the testing procedure.
He eventually moved on to a competitor's lab where
he is probably still in a fog.  He was a nice kid
who was proud of playing in the Praise and Glory
Band at church.
Lanney

    
MadMt Mike
That said, I pared down my kit, All is flint, steel,
char patch and a pot to broil the water in.



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