From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1304 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, February 1 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1304 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: Hunter/Actor -       MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag -       MtMan-List: Saddle for Sale -       Re: MtMan-List: Hunter/Actor -       Re: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag -       RE: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag -       Re: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag -       Re: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag -       RE: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag -       MtMan-List: New Subscriber -       Re: MtMan-List: New Subscriber -       Re: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag -       Re: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag -       RE: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag -       RE: MtMan-List: New Subscriber -       Re: MtMan-List: New Subscriber -       MtMan-List: Mountain Man list: Possibles bag -       RE: MtMan-List: New Subscriber -       Re: MtMan-List: Smoking brain tan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:06:13 -0700 (MST) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: MtMan-List: Hunter/Actor On page 63 of this weeks Newsweek(Feb 2, 2004)in the Newsmakers column actor Kurt Russell is asked if he goes hunting. "Yes, I still hunt from time to time. I bowhunt and use a rifle." Newsweek: Have you caught anything with your bow and arrow? Russell: You don't catch things with a bow and arrow. You kill them. I've gotten elk, deer, grouse, rabbit... Newsweek: Doesn't it bother Goldie (Hawn his longtime companion) that you hunt? Russell: No, she's a very good game cook. She's not a hunter, has no desire to hunt, but she's a wonderful chef." - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 13:21:22 -0700 From: "Stuart Family" Subject: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag Folks, I am starting to need to put together a possibilies bag and would like to know what you'll think about what kind of hide to make it out of. I am considering elk but I think price might push me to deer. Your thoughts. ED - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 15:30:12 -0600 From: K&L Subject: MtMan-List: Saddle for Sale Readers of the list: I have an Ashley contract saddle with pommel bags and saddle bags for sale. This saddle was built by Bob Schmidt of Montana. If interested please contact me off list. Keith Lawyer Denison, Texas lmlawyer@disd.net - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:05:27 -0700 From: Wolverine Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hunter/Actor Hello beaverboy, Saturday, January 31, 2004, 10:06:13 AM, you wrote: bsn> On page 63 of this weeks Newsweek(Feb 2, 2004)in the Newsmakers column bsn> actor Kurt Russell is asked if he goes hunting. bsn> "Yes, I still hunt from time to time. I bowhunt and use a rifle." bsn> Newsweek: Have you caught anything with your bow and arrow? bsn> Russell: You don't catch things with a bow and arrow. You kill them. bsn> I've gotten elk, deer, grouse, rabbit... bsn> Newsweek: Doesn't it bother Goldie (Hawn his longtime companion) that bsn> you hunt? bsn> Russell: No, she's a very good game cook. She's not a hunter, has no bsn> desire to hunt, but she's a wonderful chef." Kurt also hunts alot with Ted Nuggent. And has made 2 commercials concerning hunting with him at the YO ranch in Texas. - -- Best regards, Wolverine - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:31:41 -0800 From: "roger lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag I am > considering elk but I think price might push me to deer. Your thoughts. > > ED Ed, I presume your not talking about using brain tan? It would be very correct to use a softly tanned cow hide, pig hide, etc. My next pouch will be such. I'll use an oil tanned hide to cut from, not too limp and not too stiff. I've got a pouch made by a friend many years ago from commercially tanned elk. It's a nice pouch and all but it's just too limp. I had to dye it a darker color to suit my impression of how old pouches may have looked new. It was laced together rather than sewn and I've not seen may originals that were laced come to think of it. Just my thoughts on it anyway. YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:54:41 -0700 From: "Tom Ballstaedt" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag Ed, if you like the look of the softer deer or elk skin and the stiffness of the thicker leathers. you might consider using some heavier, perhaps oil or vegetable tanned leather for the back of the pouch, using the softer leather for the front and the flap. it gives the bag the rigidity it needs to be more usable and keeps the look of bags you see in the miller paintings. tom #1834 PRP > [Original Message] > From: Stuart Family > To: > Date: 1/31/2004 1:14:24 PM > Subject: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag > > Folks, > > I am starting to need to put together a possibilies bag and would like to > know what you'll think about what kind of hide to make it out of. I am > considering elk but I think price might push me to deer. Your thoughts. > > ED > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 18:44:13 -0700 (MST) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag Ed, I would recommend making it small and carrying only what you need for a day or two of shooting. My shooting bag is but 7"x7" and about 2" deep without sides sections. It has two smaller pockets inside sewn to the back that hold smaller stuff I need to find quickly. I can fit all I need in there for several days of shooting or hunting. I believe it is made of heavy cowhide and is neither too stiff or too soft. Too many of shooters have shooting bags that weigh upwards of 5 pounds and for the life of me I do not know how they find a ball or patch in all that junk they carry in there. I call mine a shooting bag and keep only shooting stuff in it. I don't use it as a tool box. I used an old leather purse my first year hunting till I figured out what size I wanted. There is a famous painting of an early American either hunting or at a turkey shoot and his shooting pouch appears to be only about 6"x6" inches and wore high up. Refer to "The Kentucky Rifle Hunting Pouch" book by Madison Grant if you can find a copy. It will aid you greatly. Good luck. bb > Folks, > > I am starting to need to put together a possibilies bag and would like to > know what you'll think about what kind of hide to make it out of. I am > considering elk but I think price might push me to deer. Your thoughts. > > ED > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:31:11 -0700 From: James and Sue Stone Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag - --------------070501030907000700070506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Ed! Madison Grant's book is still available, I just got all three of his books myself. The only limitation of the Hunting Pouch book is that most of his examples are post 1820 and 1830. He does have a few earlier, but he also has some in the 1870s. For earlier examples (line-drawings actually) the Frontier Rifleman has been recommended. Beaverboy is right in that the early "shooting bags" were just that. I have one and to those deminsions and if I put too much stuff in it I am followed by two kinds of people. First are the ones who say, "Is that your fowling scraper?" "Is that your burning lens?" The other type are people who seem to make wonderful surface finds of 18th century artifacts in remarkable condition...like fowling scrapers and burning lenses. In short, mine ONLY holds what I need to shoot. One item that both Madison Grant and Richard LaCrosse agree on is that there are other/additional bags...called haversacks or possibles bags. Technically haversacks are to put your lunch into, but other things ended up there. Possibles bags to me are for just that....your lenght of rope to suspend your deer when gutting it, fire bag, housewife, shaving gear, whatever. Keeping in mind that most of the BIG stuff either goes in the blanket role or knapsack. Sparks beaverboy@sofast.net wrote: >Ed, > I would recommend making it small and carrying only what you need for a >day or two of shooting. > My shooting bag is but 7"x7" and about 2" deep without sides sections. >It has two smaller pockets inside sewn to the back that hold smaller >stuff I need to find quickly. I can fit all I need in there for several >days of shooting or hunting. I believe it is made of heavy cowhide and >is neither too stiff or too soft. > Too many of shooters have shooting bags that weigh upwards of 5 pounds >and for the life of me I do not know how they find a ball or patch in >all that junk they carry in there. I call mine a shooting bag and keep >only shooting stuff in it. I don't use it as a tool box. I used an old >leather purse my first year hunting till I figured out what size I >wanted. > There is a famous painting of an early American either hunting or at a >turkey shoot and his shooting pouch appears to be only about 6"x6" >inches and wore high up. > Refer to "The Kentucky Rifle Hunting Pouch" book by Madison Grant if >you can find a copy. It will aid you greatly. > Good luck. > bb > > > > > >>Folks, >> >>I am starting to need to put together a possibilies bag and would like to >>know what you'll think about what kind of hide to make it out of. I am >>considering elk but I think price might push me to deer. Your thoughts. >> >>ED >> >> >>---------------------- >>hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> >> >> > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > - --------------070501030907000700070506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Ed!
Madison Grant's book is still available, I just got all three of his books myself.  The only limitation of the Hunting Pouch book is that most of his examples are post 1820 and 1830.  He does have a few earlier, but he also has some in the 1870s.  For earlier examples (line-drawings actually)  the Frontier Rifleman has been recommended.  Beaverboy is right in that the early "shooting bags" were just that.  I have one and to those deminsions and if I put too much stuff in it I am followed by two kinds of people.  First are the ones who say, "Is that your fowling scraper?"  "Is that your burning lens?"  The other type are people who seem to make wonderful surface finds of 18th century artifacts in remarkable condition...like fowling scrapers and burning lenses.  In short, mine ONLY holds what I need to shoot.  

One item that both Madison Grant and Richard LaCrosse agree on is that there are other/additional bags...called haversacks or possibles bags.  Technically haversacks are to put your lunch into, but other things ended up there.  Possibles bags to me are for just that....your lenght of rope to suspend your deer when gutting it, fire bag, housewife, shaving gear, whatever.  Keeping in mind that most of the BIG stuff either goes in the blanket role or knapsack.
Sparks

beaverboy@sofast.net wrote:
Ed,
   I would recommend making it small and carrying only what you need for a
day or two of shooting.
   My shooting bag is but 7"x7" and about 2" deep without sides sections.
It has two smaller pockets inside sewn to the back that hold smaller
stuff I need to find quickly. I can fit all I need in there for several
days of shooting or hunting. I believe it is made of heavy cowhide and
is neither too stiff or too soft.
   Too many of shooters have shooting bags that weigh upwards of 5 pounds
and for the life of me I do not know how they find a ball or patch in
all that junk they carry in there. I call mine a shooting bag and keep
only shooting stuff in it. I don't use it as a tool box. I used an old
leather purse my first year hunting till I figured out what size I
wanted.
   There is a famous painting of an early American either hunting or at a
turkey shoot and his shooting pouch appears to be only about 6"x6"
inches and wore high up.
   Refer to "The Kentucky Rifle Hunting Pouch" book by Madison Grant if
you can find a copy. It will aid you greatly.
   Good luck.
        bb



  
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I am starting to need to put together a possibilies bag and would like to
know what you'll think about what kind of hide to make it out of.  I am
considering elk but I think price might push me to deer.  Your thoughts.

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It's kinda long and looks great but I feel the buckskin is just too light. By the way, you should have rec'd the powder horn kit. I threw in an old butcher knife, wipe the blade with mayo and wrap in plastic and leave in the fridge for a few days and it will make the blade look like old steel. I also threw in a pair of mocs. The bottoms are double soled cowhide and the uppers are buckskin. They are a size 9.5, I figure either you or your son can wear them. If not pass them on. When you want to build the powderhorn, email me and I will walk you through it. I've made a few and it's not hard, but it does stink a wee bit. Frank - ----- Original Message ----- From: Stuart Family To: Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:21 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag > Folks, > > I am starting to need to put together a possibilies bag and would like to > know what you'll think about what kind of hide to make it out of. I am > considering elk but I think price might push me to deer. Your thoughts. > > ED > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 09:13:33 -0800 From: "Candi Smith" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag Ed, I made my shootong bag out of moose hide that I dyed a dark brown. I made in the style of a double bag(I found the pattern in Book of Buckskinning . It is nice there in that I can keep my balls and patch material in one pocket and all the other stuff needed in the other pocket. That way when I am shooting I do not have to shuffle through all the other stuff to find a ball. I made my possibles bag out of some ticking material I had. I put a couple of pockets in it and coated the whole thing with beeswax for waterproofing(a definate must in Oregon). It serves me well for the carrying of food stuffs and any other sundries I may need. I had recieved a bag out of elk from a friend, but ended up passing it along to a another friend as I felt it just was not heavy/sturdy enough. Just my two cents, Twostitch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Family" To: Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 12:21 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag > Folks, > > I am starting to need to put together a possibilies bag and would like to > know what you'll think about what kind of hide to make it out of. I am > considering elk but I think price might push me to deer. Your thoughts. > > ED > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:25:53 -0700 (MST) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag I assumed he meant shooting bag when he said it was made of leather. bb > Ed, > when you say possibles bag do you mean a shooting bag? or are you > referring > to a possibles bag separate from your shooting bag? the way i understand > the terms the two are entirely separate bags. my possible bag is made > of > 12 oz hemp canvas, more a small haversack really. in it, i carry my > wallet, fire making stuff and a few other odd items i like to keep on my > person, just in case me and my pony get separated from eachother. > Tom #1834 > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Stuart Family >> To: >> Date: 1/31/2004 1:14:24 PM >> Subject: MtMan-List: Possibilies Bag >> >> Folks, >> >> I am starting to need to put together a possibilies bag and would like >> to >> know what you'll think about what kind of hide to make it out of. I am >> considering elk but I think price might push me to deer. Your thoughts. >> >> ED >> >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 10:42:24 -0700 From: "Tom Ballstaedt" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: New Subscriber - ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Lee, Welcome, I have enjoyed your inspiring artwork for quite some time. When i see the adds for your prints in the magazines i read. It takes me from the confines of modern life and allows me to gaze in to the past of the true mountaineers of the early 1800's and reflect on my own primitive adventures. I particularly enjoyed the one where the trapper is putting a buffalo robe on his horse. ya get a shiver just looking at it. Great work Lee keep em coming Tom AMM#1834 Poison River Party - ----- Original Message ----- From: Lee Teter To: Mountain Men Sent: 2/1/2004 8:41:13 AM Subject: MtMan-List: New Subscriber Hello. I've watched this list for a long time and decided to correspond a bit at times. I am an artist; I am familiar with many of you through following the archives. I'm interested in horses. I'll be in touch. Lee Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! - ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
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Welcome, I have enjoyed your inspiring artwork for quite some time.  When i see the adds for your prints in the magazines i read.  It takes me from the confines of modern life and allows me to gaze in to the past of the true mountaineers of the early 1800's and reflect on  my own primitive adventures.  I particularly enjoyed the one where the trapper is putting a buffalo robe on his horse.   ya get a shiver just looking at it.  Great work Lee keep em coming
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  - ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C3E8BD.B73D59A0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:40:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Teter Subject: MtMan-List: Mountain Man list: Possibles bag - --0-854777461-1075671607=:88936 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My possibles bag is canvas, about the 2/3 size of a pillow case, and ties shut at the top like any other bag. I put gun maintenence stuff, (lead, ladle, molds), fire starting stuff & extra tinder, a couple tools I need, and . . . other possbles in it. I have these things divided in a couple or three skin or canvas pouches just to keep every thing organized. I carry a strike-a-light, compass, and a tiny mirror (in case I get something in my eye and need to get it out), in my shooting bag which measures about 7 inches wide and 8 inches long. I carry these things in my shooting pouch just in case my pack horse runs off with all my regular stuff. Are there many period references to possibles bags? I remember seeing tanned skin pouches in museums called "possibles bags", with stripes of quill work and hair cones, about 20 inches square or so and of Indian manufacture, from about the end of the 19th century. These were collected as Indian artifacts. Though late, and not all of them are, could they be any relation to what the mountaineers carried? I suppose a possibles bag could be any bag that a man could carry things in. Cowboys carried "warbags", and Joe Back ( Horses Hitches & Rocky Trails) drew one from early 20th c. that looked like a small seabag or dufflebag. Could possibles bag include something that looked like those? Lee - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! - --0-854777461-1075671607=:88936 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
My possibles bag is canvas, about the 2/3 size of a pillow case, and ties shut at the top like any other bag. I put gun maintenence stuff, (lead, ladle, molds), fire starting stuff & extra tinder, a couple tools I need, and . . . other possbles in it. I have these things divided in a couple or three skin or canvas pouches just to keep every thing organized. I carry a strike-a-light, compass, and a tiny mirror (in case I get something in my eye and need to get it out), in my shooting bag which measures about 7 inches wide and 8 inches long. I carry these things in my shooting pouch just in case my pack horse runs off with all my regular stuff. Are there many period references to possibles bags? I remember seeing tanned skin pouches in museums called "possibles bags", with stripes of quill work and hair cones, about 20 inches square or so and of Indian manufacture, from  about the end of the 19th century. These were collected as Indian artifacts. Though late, and not all of them are, could they be any relation to what the mountaineers carried?
 
I suppose a possibles bag could be any bag that a man could carry things in. Cowboys carried "warbags", and Joe Back ( Horses Hitches & Rocky Trails) drew one from early 20th c. that looked like a small seabag or dufflebag. Could possibles bag include something that looked like those?
 
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Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! - --0-854777461-1075671607=:88936-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:55:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Teter Subject: RE: MtMan-List: New Subscriber - --0-1158913702-1075672527=:95354 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tom Ballstaedt wrote:Lee, Welcome, I have enjoyed your inspiring artwork for quite some time. When i see the adds for your prints in the magazines i read. It takes me from the confines of modern life and allows me to gaze in to the past of the true mountaineers of the early 1800's and reflect on my own primitive adventures. I particularly enjoyed the one where the trapper is putting a buffalo robe on his horse. ya get a shiver just looking at it. Great work Lee keep em coming Tom AMM#1834 Poison River Party Thanks for the welcome. I have been getting ready to paint Mountain Men for about ten years. I have put a lot of time into research. Up until now I painted mostly easter frontier history. You can see more pictures, some of Mountain Men, at www.leeteter.com. I met Wyn Ormand and a couple other guys from your party at Bridger. It was a great pleasure on my part. I hope my art can portray the period properly. I'll sure try my best. It will be slow at first but I've decided to devote at least the next five years exclusively to the Mountain Men. - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! - --0-1158913702-1075672527=:95354 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Tom Ballstaedt <thsb@earthlink.net> wrote:
Lee,
Welcome, I have enjoyed your inspiring artwork for quite some time.  When i see the adds for your prints in the magazines i read.  It takes me from the confines of modern life and allows me to gaze in to the past of the true mountaineers of the early 1800's and reflect on  my own primitive adventures.  I particularly enjoyed the one where the trapper is putting a buffalo robe on his horse.   ya get a shiver just looking at it.  Great work Lee keep em coming
 Tom  AMM#1834 Poison River Party
 
 
 
Thanks for the welcome. I have been getting ready to paint Mountain Men for about ten years. I have put a lot of time into research. Up until now I painted mostly easter frontier history. You can see more pictures, some of Mountain Men, at www.leeteter.com.
 
I met Wyn Ormand and a couple other guys from your party at Bridger. It was a great pleasure on my part.
 
I hope my art can portray the period properly. I'll sure try my best. It will be slow at first but I've decided to devote at least the next five years exclusively to the Mountain Men.   
 
 

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