From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1330 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, March 10 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1330 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Firearm for Bear/Mountain Lion Protection -       Re: MtMan-List: Looms -       MtMan-List: Bedding -       RE: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Looms -       RE: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Looms -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 09:05:49 -0800 From: "Michael Lessman" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Firearm for Bear/Mountain Lion Protection This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C405B5.B7553290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lee, Contact me off list at brownbess1775@aol.com Re:Peloux guns ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lee Teter=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:26 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Firearm for Bear/Mountain Lion Protection There are other things to consider.=20 Black bear are not grizzly bears. If a black bear attacks assume it = wants to eat you. Fight back even if you don't have a gun. Even a child = has been known to fight a black bear off; it seems they don't like their = supper to squirm around so much. On the other hand a researcher in = Canada played dead for a black bear and had all the flesh of both legs = and most of one arm eaten away before she figured out playing dead = didn't work with blacks. She survived. One arm.=20 Grizzly seems to be happy to let sleeping dogs lie. They like to = fight. So don't squirm so much, they might think they can get a fight = out of you. I doubt anyone I know could pin a griz anyway. There are other things you won't hear talked about much. I'd hate to = be female in grizzly country. Women have "issues" that bears react to. = Even without that issue, they smell female. And sex is a no no in griz = country. According to one researcher, attacks are often caused by a bear = who thinks someone is encroaching on his territory, and I'm not talking = about terrain. He said most couples who are attacked were "engaged".=20 The noise thing might work for black bear but I wouldn't trust it = with griz. In the early years of the reintroduction program researchers = were dropped by helicopter. Policy was to hit the ground running and = climb a nearby tree until the noisy chopper left. It seems griz looked = at the noise as a challenge. Pioneer researcher, John M. told me about = at least one researcher who didn't get to a tree fast enough. Another = thing I wonder about is the head wounds found in griz attacks; are they = trying to stop the noise by attacking its source? I think if I get = attacked I'll try to keep quiet as well as motionless. Could be = difficult, but I doubt anyone will be around to hear me anyway. Never shot a griz. If I have to, I think I'm with John Kramer. Big = ball, buckshot and lots of powder. It will at least hurt him. If he = kills me it will be better than a car wreck. I hate automobiles.=20 Lee =20 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C405B5.B7553290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lee,  Contact me off list at brownbess1775@aol.com &nbs= p;=20 Re:Peloux guns
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From:=20 Lee = Teter=20
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 = 5:26=20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: = Firearm for=20 Bear/Mountain Lion Protection

There are other things to consider.

Black bear are not grizzly bears. If a black bear attacks assume = it wants=20 to eat you. Fight back even if you don't have a gun. Even a child = has been=20 known to fight a black bear off; it seems they don't like their = supper to=20 squirm around so much. On the other hand a researcher in Canada = played dead=20 for a black bear and had all the flesh of both legs and most of one = arm=20 eaten away before she figured out playing dead didn't work with = blacks. She=20 survived. One arm. 

Grizzly seems to be happy to let sleeping dogs lie. They like to = fight.=20 So don't squirm so much, they might think they can get a fight out = of you. I=20 doubt anyone I know could pin a griz anyway.

There are other things you won't hear talked about much. I'd hate = to be=20 female in grizzly country. Women have "issues" that bears react to. = Even=20 without that issue, they smell female. And sex is a no no in griz = country.=20 According to one researcher, attacks are often caused by a bear who = thinks=20 someone is encroaching on his territory, and I'm not talking about = terrain.=20 He said most couples who are attacked were = "engaged". 

 

The noise thing might work for black bear but I wouldn't trust it = with=20 griz. In the early years of the reintroduction program = researchers=20 were dropped by helicopter. Policy was to hit the ground running and = climb a=20 nearby tree until the noisy chopper left. It seems griz looked at = the noise=20 as a challenge. Pioneer researcher, John M. told me about at = least one=20 researcher who didn't get to a tree fast enough. Another thing I = wonder=20 about is the head wounds found in griz attacks; are they trying to = stop the=20 noise by attacking its source? I think if I get attacked I'll try to = keep=20 quiet as well as motionless. Could be difficult, but I doubt anyone = will be=20 around to hear me anyway.

 

Never shot a griz. If I have to, I think I'm with John = Kramer.=20 Big ball, buckshot and lots of powder. It will at least hurt him. If = he=20 kills me it will be better than a car wreck. I hate automobiles. =

 

Lee

 

   

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Yahoo! Finance: Get=20 your refund fast by filing online - ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C405B5.B7553290-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 17:29:28 GMT From: tetontodd@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Looms What a sad day. I was hoping that the woolen mill would rise from the ashes once again and produce some more fine blankets. It was an interesting place to visit. Guess I should have bought more of their blankets. Teton - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 14:54:32 -0500 From: MunevarL@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Bedding I am interested in hearing some ideas on how you set-up your bed on primitive outings. The climate would be cool night time temps in the upper 20s-upper 30s but no snow on the ground. What do you use to insulate your body from the ground? (modern would be a foam pad and primitive, the way I have done it, is 6-9 inches of pine needles or leaves) But what about when there is little debris on the ground? Primarily chapparal? Are their any period correct alternatives to the modern foam pad that one would carry? What goes on top of this? Ground cloth (dimensions), shelter cloth (dimensions; do you use one or do you simply fold an oversized ground cloth over you to act a shelter from rain/snow? Blanket(s). How are they arranged? Any specifics? (folded in half, thirds, pinned, sewn together) I have never gone on a mountain man era primitive trek. I have gone completely primitive (no pack, no sleeping bag/blanket, made my own shelter, debris for warmth) and modern backpacking but I wanted to know what to pack for a mountain man era trek. Looking forward to hear your experiences. Lou - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 13:49:26 -0800 From: Pat Quilter Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Bedding Here is my method which serves well down to mildly frosty conditions. I have two good wool blankets and a windbreaker canvas somewhat larger than the blankets. I find the most comfortable spot of ground, removing rocks, sticks etc and arranging a hip-hole. If you do this right you don't need padding. I basically fold my blankets and canvas in half and lay between so I have the same layers underneath as above. If the ground is wet, I would take the trouble to build a bed of debris for more insulation. I sleep in my warmest clothes too. The ground slowly warms up underneath, providing a heat reservoir for the coldest part of the night. The windbreaking effect of the canvas on top is essential. I position the open side of the bedding away from the wind, and if there's a slope, pointing downhill. I have a serape I often drape over my upper body on top of all this bedding as a head-nest but otherwise I snuggle under the blankets if I get that cold. A single good buffalo robe can replace all of this but it's actually heavier especially if wet. But it IS warm. My blankets, canvas and serape roll into two manageable bedrolls, which I tie on a crude packframe along with a portmanteau for my other stuff. The resulting pack is not trivial but it travels OK. For warm conditions, omit a blanket, or sleep on top for extra cushioning. I once travelled with just the serape and canvas, but I was a little cold on a spring mountain night (40's?). Happy trails! Pat Quilter - -----Original Message----- From: MunevarL@aol.com [mailto:MunevarL@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 11:55 AM To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: MtMan-List: Bedding I am interested in hearing some ideas on how you set-up your bed on primitive outings. The climate would be cool night time temps in the upper 20s-upper 30s but no snow on the ground. What do you use to insulate your body from the ground? (modern would be a foam pad and primitive, the way I have done it, is 6-9 inches of pine needles or leaves) But what about when there is little debris on the ground? Primarily chapparal? Are their any period correct alternatives to the modern foam pad that one would carry? What goes on top of this? Ground cloth (dimensions), shelter cloth (dimensions; do you use one or do you simply fold an oversized ground cloth over you to act a shelter from rain/snow? Blanket(s). How are they arranged? Any specifics? (folded in half, thirds, pinned, sewn together) I have never gone on a mountain man era primitive trek. I have gone completely primitive (no pack, no sleeping bag/blanket, made my own shelter, debris for warmth) and modern backpacking but I wanted to know what to pack for a mountain man era trek. Looking forward to hear your experiences. Lou - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 18:05:59 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding - --part1_1cd.1b883b7c.2d7fa7d7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 3/9/04 11:55:23 AM, MunevarL@aol.com writes: > The climate would be cool night time temps in the upper 20s-upper 30s but=20 > no snow on the ground.=A0 What do you use to insulate your body from the g= round?=20 > ( >=20 Lou... I carry a tanned, hair on, sheep skin to sleep on. It's rather light,= =20 a good 3/4 body length, provides a fair measure of comfort, and the wool kee= ps=20 the cold away from your back. Put it on a canvas ground cloth, with a buffal= o=20 robe for a blanket, and I've been warm when it goes below freezing. Magpie=20 - --part1_1cd.1b883b7c.2d7fa7d7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 3/9/04 11:55:23 AM, MunevarL@aol.com writes:


The climate would be=20= cool night time temps in the upper 20s-upper 30s but no snow on the ground.= =A0 What do you use to insulate your body from the ground? (

Lou... I carry a tanned, hair on, sheep skin to sleep on. It's rather light,= a good 3/4 body length, provides a fair measure of comfort, and the wool ke= eps the cold away from your back. Put it on a canvas ground cloth, with a bu= ffalo robe for a blanket, and I've been warm when it goes below freezing.
Magpie - --part1_1cd.1b883b7c.2d7fa7d7_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:41:30 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Looms Todd It could shine again. Teton Wool and Virgin Sheep Inc. Kinda got a ring to it. Wynn - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 10:29 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Looms > > What a sad day. I was hoping that the woolen mill would rise from the ashes once again and produce some more fine blankets. It was an interesting place to visit. Guess I should have bought more of their blankets. > > Teton > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:03:46 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Bedding Lou, I have a brain tanned buffalo robe tanned by Wes Housler. It is big enough to put above and below me by folding. I have also used a good sheepskin. A sheepskin is affordable, and worth it's weight in gold. It pads and insulates, it's light enough to pack too. A good tarp is great to keep moisture from ground under you, and warmth stealing wind off of you. A hip hole is easy to do, and well worth the effort. Any available duff is worth gathering also. Yfab, Randy - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 22:30:51 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Lou I had a change of plans this last weekend and ended up going North into the snow country instead of south to the desert, perhaps my experience will prove informative. I wondered into a camp after dark and the boys were glad to see me. Without me there were more women than men and most of the guys are not used to being outnumbered by such resourceful and competent women at primitive doins. At any rate after being feed grandly and having a few rounds and a story or two I threw out my tarp, bufalo robe and two wool blankets. I was on top the snow near the fire and the back of my legs had not dried out. As the night progressed I had trouble staying wrapped in the bedding, feet would get pushed out the bottom or blankets wonder off. If I figited wrong the snow would work it way in. I can not stay curled up because of my knees getting sore but my feet got cold laying stretched out. I woke up with the fire burning right in front of my nose and had to reposition back on the other side of a log. Didn't get warm until after sunup. On Saturday night I dried out a bit more evenly during social hour. I also took possession of a wonderful little nest that Richard Ashburn and his lovely wife had prepared and vacated the night before. They had dug down through the snow to the duff. I carefully wrapped the blankets and robe which were folded in half with the fold facing the same direction on all three in an untreated canvas tarp. It was tucked well under me feet to make it near impossible to kick out of in the night and I had plenty to throw over my head that is covered and pillowed by a serape. I also tied a rope loosely around two places to help keep everything together. The temp dropped much colder (nearby town 9 degrees) but I slept totally warm. I took my foot gear off since they had some moisture in them and slept barefoot. I might brave it and carry less bedding than that in the future but I am starting to be a believer in wrapping it all up in real neat package somehow. About daylight a couple squirrels commensed complaining about the intrusion. One dropped right on. . . well lets say I just began to worry about what they eat in the winter time. Wynn Ormond - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 12:54 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Bedding > I am interested in hearing some ideas on how you set-up your bed on primitive outings. The climate would be cool night time temps in the upper 20s-upper 30s but no snow on the ground. What do you use to insulate your body from the ground? (modern would be a foam pad and primitive, the way I have done it, is 6-9 inches of pine needles or leaves) But what about when there is little debris on the ground? Primarily chapparal? Are their any period correct alternatives to the modern foam pad that one would carry? What goes on top of this? Ground cloth (dimensions), shelter cloth (dimensions; do you use one or do you simply fold an oversized ground cloth over you to act a shelter from rain/snow? Blanket(s). How are they arranged? Any specifics? (folded in half, thirds, pinned, sewn together) > > I have never gone on a mountain man era primitive trek. I have gone completely primitive (no pack, no sleeping bag/blanket, made my own shelter, debris for warmth) and modern backpacking but I wanted to know what to pack for a mountain man era trek. > > Looking forward to hear your experiences. Lou > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 22:01:50 -0800 From: "RP Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Lou, I like to take my new buffalo robe these days, but on a recent trip I also stuck in a good Whitney Blanket. I've slept warm with two Whitney's in the past but always had them tucked into a sewn up oil cloth bedroll so they didn't kick out. And I've carried a sheepskin trimmed down to just enough width and like Crazy says, three quarters length. I've also found that baring the sheep skin and etc. that if I take the time to dig a hip hole (I have to sleep on my side anyway or I keep myself and everyone else awake with my snoring, on my side I just keep everyone else awake-I sleep fine) that I really get a good nights rest. It helps too if I can find some old pine needle duff to pad things with or even thin the branches off a fir tree to make a bed pad. One trick I just started using in the past couple years that really helps me sleep warm with a minimum of blanket weight is to fold and tie the blankets just so. I fold them length wise in three layers, like they taught you in boot camp. I then gather up the foot end accordion style and throw a hank of rope or twine around that bundle about 5" or 6" up from the end using a clove hitch or etc. to cinch the folds up. When I climb into the bed roll my feet don't kick out, there are extra layers of wool either above or below my feet and I still have plenty of length to lay full stretched out with blanket enough to pull over my head. I also go to bed with everything on that I needed to stay warm out of the blankets other than my coat but would wear it too if need be. I also put on dry winter mocs so I can get up mid way through the night without having to put on cold foot wear and even if the mocs are a bit wet they seem to dry out over night on my feet. Anyway, the cloth bed roll keeps the air off the blankets so they are extra warm. The buffalo rob flesh side out does the same thing but it's not water repellent or water proof so............. I do have little ties across the butt end of the rob to tie it closed a bit so my feet don't kick out. YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 04:28:46 EST From: GazeingCyot@cs.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding - --part1_4e.28c59a04.2d8039ce_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wynn Ya forgot to mention a couple of things in your post. That first night when ya had trouble with the snow getting in and your feet getting push out. We got a good four inches of new snow that night that came in side ways do to the high winds we got that night as well. I found out after we got home all the roads around us were closed that night do to white out conditions and blowing snow. Little did we know at the time, bedding down under the pines did a good job of protect us from a lot of that wind and snow. No wonder you slept warmer that second night that hole Richard dug was half way to China. That snow was a good four feet deep or better under that tree. Another Idea I seen done at this camp that is worth a try is to have holes around the bottom edge and up about half way on the sides of your Buffalo robe. This way you can lace it closed to make kind of a sleeping bag out of it. With a robe done like this there is no way you can kick out of it in the night. This is the way that Alice the one Lady that was there by her self had her bed roll made up and it seemed to work quit well for her. See ya down the trail. Crazy Cyot - --part1_4e.28c59a04.2d8039ce_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wynn
Ya forgot to mention a couple of things in your post. That first night w= hen ya had trouble with the snow getting in and your feet getting push out.=20=  We got a good four inches of new snow that night that came in side way= s do to the high winds we got that night as well. I found out after we got h= ome all the roads around us were closed that night do to white out condition= s and blowing snow. Little did we know at the time, bedding down under the p= ines did a good job of protect us from a lot of that wind and snow.
No wonder you slept warmer that second night that hole Richard dug was h= alf way to China. That snow was a good four feet deep or better under that t= ree.
Another Idea I seen done at this camp that is worth a try is to have hol= es around the bottom edge and up about half way on the sides of your Buffalo= robe. This way you can lace it closed to make kind of a sleeping bag out of= it. With a robe done like this there is no way you can kick out of it in th= e night. This is the way that Alice the one Lady that was there by her self=20= had her bed roll made up and it seemed to work quit well for her.
See ya down the trail.
Crazy Cyot - --part1_4e.28c59a04.2d8039ce_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 09:15:38 EST From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Looms - --part1_37.45286a58.2d807d0a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wynn It is now the tenth. Who ended up with the machinery? I know the Saddlers wanted to clear off that property (the mill was built by direction of Brigham Young in 1875) and sell it for housing. There was an effort to stop this because it was listed in "Historic Sites". Dick James - --part1_37.45286a58.2d807d0a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wynn
It is now the tenth.  Who ended up with the machinery?  I know the= Saddlers wanted to clear off that property (the mill was built by direction= of Brigham Young in 1875) and sell it for housing.  There was an effor= t to stop this because it was listed in "Historic Sites".

Dick James - --part1_37.45286a58.2d807d0a_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 16:50:45 -0500 From: MunevarL@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Thanks to the camp for your suggestions. A number of you mentioned tanned hair-on sheepskin as a good surface to sleep on. Can anyone provide me with a link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do you have a link for buffalo robes? Lou - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:26:40 -0700 From: "Gene Hickman" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Lou, The best source of braintan and smoked buffalo robes is Wes Housler http://www.braintan.com/bison/wes.html. You want to get smoked braintan, as the commercial tanned hides won't stand up to repeatedly getting damp or wet, which will invariably happen in our avocation. Wes' robes are cheaper than for what many are selling commercial tanned robes. I find sheepskins on ebay and occasionally at the thrift stores. As Always, Your Obedient Servant, Gene "Bead Shooter" Hickman - ----- Original Message ----- From: ... Can anyone provide me with a link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do you have a link for buffalo robes? > Lou - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 15:05:07 -0800 From: "RP Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Places like Tandy Leather and "The Leather Factory" ( also a Tandy co.) sell sheep robes. Fellas like Wes Hosler sell buffalo. Don't have any contact info. Sorry. YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > Thanks to the camp for your suggestions. A number of you mentioned tanned hair-on sheepskin as a good surface to sleep on. Can anyone provide me with a link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do you have a link for buffalo robes? > > Lou > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:45:19 EST From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding - -------------------------------1078965919 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/10/2004 1:51:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, MunevarL@aol.com writes: Can anyone provide me with a link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do you have a link for buffalo robes? Lou, Don't know if your near one, but I've seen good prices at Costco. Here's a couple of links to Buffalo robes... Braintanned Buffalo Robes, Tipis, Rawhide & Parfleche: by Wes Housler Absaroka Western Designs & Tannery, historical reproductions, furs, robes, rawh Moscow Hide and Fur Barney - -------------------------------1078965919 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- -------------------------------1078965919-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:24:42 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Lou, check on E-bay. I've seen them there. I've seen them sold at K-mart, etc... to be put under a babies sleeping area. Good ventilation, etc.... Randy > [Original Message] > From: > To: > Date: 3/10/04 1:50:46 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > > Thanks to the camp for your suggestions. A number of you mentioned tanned hair-on sheepskin as a good surface to sleep on. Can anyone provide me with a link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do you have a link for buffalo robes? > > Lou > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 17:27:54 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Wes does sell partial robes for saddle blankets, etc... If you can't afford a new robe, maybe a partial would be good enough. Check him out at http://www.braintan.com/bison/wes.html yfab, Randy > [Original Message] > From: RP Lahti > To: > Date: 3/10/04 3:05:08 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > > Places like Tandy Leather and "The Leather Factory" ( also a Tandy co.) sell > sheep robes. Fellas like Wes Hosler sell buffalo. Don't have any contact > info. Sorry. > > YMOS > Capt. Lahti' > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 1:50 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > > > > Thanks to the camp for your suggestions. A number of you mentioned tanned > hair-on sheepskin as a good surface to sleep on. Can anyone provide me with > a link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do you have a link > for buffalo robes? > > > > Lou > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:35:24 GMT From: trampas4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Buffalo robes and blankets thats the way to go. I have never seen sheep skin robes mention in any period writtings from the mountaineers. If you are going to look on ebay look up buffalo hides or robes, you will find them, and if you play it right for a good price. Those robes of Wes are very nice, used a trail partners a couple of times, much lighter than commercial tan. His prices are good to. I am going that way. Others in our party also add saddle bankets to there bed, great padding. Bill Gantic, Baker Party - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:26:57 -0600 From: "Lanney Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Check leather shops that cater to saddle makers for big, thick sheepskins. I got mine at The Leather Factory, which I think has been bought by Tandy. Lanney - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randal Bublitz" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > Lou, check on E-bay. I've seen them there. I've seen them sold at K-mart, > etc... to be put under a babies sleeping area. Good ventilation, etc.... > Randy > > > > [Original Message] > > From: > > To: > > Date: 3/10/04 1:50:46 PM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > > > > Thanks to the camp for your suggestions. A number of you mentioned > tanned hair-on sheepskin as a good surface to sleep on. Can anyone provide > me with a link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do you have > a link for buffalo robes? > > > > Lou > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:21:15 -0600 From: "JIM BRYAN" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0179_01C406F6.62B83F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also, Leather Unlimited Corp of Belgium, Wisconsin has them in their = catalog which also has other buckskinning books, etc. (some of the = Indian stuff is hokey plastic, but that's the way with most of these = catalogs...). It's a pretty good one all in all..their phone number is = (800) 993-2889. Absalom ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Lanney Ratcliff=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:26 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Check leather shops that cater to saddle makers for big, thick = sheepskins. I got mine at The Leather Factory, which I think has been bought by = Tandy. Lanney ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Randal Bublitz" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:24 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > Lou, check on E-bay. I've seen them there. I've seen them sold at K-mart, > etc... to be put under a babies sleeping area. Good ventilation, = etc.... > Randy > > > > [Original Message] > > From: > > To: > > Date: 3/10/04 1:50:46 PM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > > > > Thanks to the camp for your suggestions. A number of you = mentioned > tanned hair-on sheepskin as a good surface to sleep on. Can anyone = provide > me with a link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do = you have > a link for buffalo robes? > > > > Lou > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > ---------------------- hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ------=_NextPart_000_0179_01C406F6.62B83F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Also, Leather Unlimited Corp of Belgium, Wisconsin has them in = their=20 catalog which also has other buckskinning books, etc. (some of the = Indian stuff=20 is hokey plastic, but that's the way with most of these catalogs...). = It's a=20 pretty good one all in all..their phone number is (800) = 993-2889.
 
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Check leather shops that cater to saddle makers for = big, thick=20 sheepskins.
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