From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1331 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, March 11 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1331 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Looms -       Fwd: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       RE: MtMan-List: Ways Mtn Men died -       MtMan-List: bear attacks -       Re: MtMan-List: bear attacks -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding -       Re: MtMan-List: Bedding ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:46:26 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Where do you live? I have a friend that deals in hides/furs etc in Utah. Wynn - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:50 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > Thanks to the camp for your suggestions. A number of you mentioned tanned hair-on sheepskin as a good surface to sleep on. Can anyone provide me with a link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do you have a link for buffalo robes? > > Lou > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:52:01 -0700 From: "Wynn Ormond" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Looms This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C406F2.4D1CC580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dunno what is happening with the stuff. I did not really look at the = notice to see if there was a contsct number you could call to find out = where the looms are going. Wynn ----- Original Message -----=20 From: SWzypher@aol.com=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:15 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Looms Wynn It is now the tenth. Who ended up with the machinery? I know the = Saddlers wanted to clear off that property (the mill was built by = direction of Brigham Young in 1875) and sell it for housing. There was = an effort to stop this because it was listed in "Historic Sites". Dick James - ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C406F2.4D1CC580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dunno what is happening with the = stuff.  I did=20 not really look at the notice to see if there was a contsct number you = could=20 call to find out where the looms are going.
Wynn
 
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Wynn
It is now the = tenth.  Who=20 ended up with the machinery?  I know the Saddlers wanted to clear = off=20 that property (the mill was built by direction of Brigham Young in = 1875) and=20 sell it for housing.  There was an effort to stop this because it = was=20 listed in "Historic Sites".

Dick James=20 - ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C406F2.4D1CC580-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 01:06:08 EST From: MunevarL@aol.com Subject: Fwd: MtMan-List: Bedding - --part1_1ca.1bb0ab1b.2d815bd0_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1078985168" - -------------------------------1078985168 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I live in Southern California. Lou - -------------------------------1078985168 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I live in Southern California.
 
Lou
- -------------------------------1078985168-- - --part1_1ca.1bb0ab1b.2d815bd0_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-ya04.mx.aol.com (rly-ya04.mail.aol.com [172.18.141.36]) by air-ya02.mail.aol.com (v98.10) with ESMTP id MAILINYA21-156404ffb3238; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:38:34 -0500 Received: from lists.xmission.com (lists.xmission.com [198.60.22.7]) by rly-ya04.mx.aol.com (v98.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYA42-156404ffb3238; Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:37:58 -0500 Received: from domo by lists.xmission.com with local (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1B1It7-0004Jj-00 for hist_text-gooutt@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:37:45 -0700 Received: from [198.60.22.207] (helo=mgr7.xmission.com ident=mail) by lists.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 1B1It5-0004Je-00 for hist_text@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:37:43 -0700 Received: from [67.128.36.2] (helo=mail.pcu.net) by mgr7.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B1It2-0000T4-SR for hist_text@lists.xmission.com; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:37:40 -0700 Received: from user ([207.173.103.89]) by mail.pcu.net (Merak 7.2.0) with SMTP id BKA74422 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:37:30 -0700 Message-ID: <006901c4072c$33e94ea0$5967adcf@user> From: "Wynn Ormond" To: References: <4FE3AB76.5201E25F.007E2A9E@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 22:46:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-RegEx-Filter: regex_whitelist.xml Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on mgr7.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=8.0 tests=RCVD_IN_SORBS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: cheyenne@pcu.net X-SA-Exim-Version: 3.1 (built Mon Jan 26 13:00:24 MST 2004) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com X-AOL-IP: 198.60.22.7 Where do you live? I have a friend that deals in hides/furs etc in Utah. Wynn - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:50 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > Thanks to the camp for your suggestions. A number of you mentioned tanned hair-on sheepskin as a good surface to sleep on. Can anyone provide me with a link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do you have a link for buffalo robes? > > Lou > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - --part1_1ca.1bb0ab1b.2d815bd0_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:15:16 -0700 From: Joe Brandl Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding > Thanks to the camp for your suggestions. A number of you mentioned tanned > hair-on sheepskin as a good surface to sleep on. Can anyone provide me with a > link for a company that sells sheepskin? Separately, do you have a link for > buffalo robes? > > Lou > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html Give us a call Thanks Joe - -- Visit our web page absarokawesterndesign.com Call us for details on our custom tanning 307-455-2440 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:34:41 -0700 From: "Angela Gottfred" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Ways Mtn Men died "RICK TABOR" blackshirt75@hotmail.com wrote: <> This has often been repeated, but I have yet to see any proof that = strangulated hernia led to a single voyageur death in the 1774-1821 period that I = focus on. I have found exactly three cases of hernia (called "rupture" at that = time): a man on the Bay who was put on sick detail until the ship came in the spring = to take him back home, a North West Company (NWC) voyageur who was suspected of malingering when he claimed that he had "rupture", and a NWC pork-eater = who was sent home only a few weeks after leaving Montreal. No deaths!! The sashes were a fashion statement; many items of clothing were issued = to voyageurs as part of their NWC contract, but sashes were not among them. = Shirts, pants, and handkerchiefs were. I have yet to find any period document = stating that sashes were worn to prevent rupture.=20 A few years ago, I did my own study of causes of death amongst = voyageurs; the top two were drowning and starvation. Your very humble & most obedient servant, Angela Gottfred - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 10:49:20 -0600 From: "Frank Fusco" Subject: MtMan-List: bear attacks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C40756.8257CAB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lee Teter and I said, I'll look up that one and read it, Lee. Frank> I tried a search at Barnes & Noble for the Gowans book but they = didn't list it although they do have several other titles by him. A search for 'grizzly' brought up more than 300 titles. 'Ole Ephriam = must be one of the most writ about critters ever. One could spend a = lifetime just reading about griz. I can't read all 300 but might pick up one or two of the titles. Frank - ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C40756.8257CAB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lee Teter and I said,
    <Modern books are great for learning about = the=20 animal, but Fred =3D
Gowans' book Mountain Man & Grizzly is the = best one=20 for people who like =3D
this site. Mr. Gowans compiled almost every = recorded=20 instance of grizzly =3D
encounters known, from Lewis & Clark to = late era=20 mountaineers>
    I'll look up that one and read = it,=20 Lee.
Frank>
 
    I tried a search at Barnes & Noble for the = Gowans=20 book but they didn't list it although they do have several other titles = by=20 him.
    A search for 'grizzly' brought up more than 300 = titles.=20 'Ole Ephriam must be one of the most writ about critters ever. One could = spend a=20 lifetime just reading about griz.
    I can't read all 300 but might pick up one or = two of the=20 titles.
Frank
- ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C40756.8257CAB0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 08:56:27 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Teter Subject: Re: MtMan-List: bear attacks - --0-1858144181-1079024187=:62238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Frank Fusco wrote: I tried a search at Barnes & Noble for the Gowans book but they didn't list it although they do have several other titles by him. I'll lend you mine if you send your address offline. Museum of the Fur Tade may have some and I think Bents Fort gift shop had some. It was recently reprinted. I'll see if I can locate some of them. If not I'll send mine. Lee - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster. - --0-1858144181-1079024187=:62238 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii


Frank Fusco <Rifleman1776@cox-internet.com> wrote:
 
 
    I tried a search at Barnes & Noble for the Gowans book but they didn't list it although they do have several other titles by him.
 
I'll lend you mine if you send your address offline. Museum of the Fur Tade may have some and I think Bents Fort gift shop had some. It was recently reprinted. I'll see if I can locate some of them. If not I'll send mine.
 
Lee
 

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Yahoo! Search - Find what you’re looking for faster. - --0-1858144181-1079024187=:62238-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:02:45 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding - --part1_1a9.21424bb3.2d81f5b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/10/04 5:37:56 PM, trampas4@juno.com writes: > Buffalo robes and blankets thats the way to go. I have never seen sheep > skin robes mention in any period writtings from the mountaineers. > I sure agree with you on the buffalo robes and blankets, and doubt the mountaineers would have used a sheep skin, especially with buffalo robes readily available. The problem is money... I checked on eBay, and buffalo hides sell for $500-$1000, while you can get a nice sheep skin for about $60-$75. I've got two buffalo robes (one 50' square!) but unless I've got a toboggan or horse, I'll carry only my smaller robe, a ground cloth, and sleep on the sheep skin pad.. Magpie - --part1_1a9.21424bb3.2d81f5b5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 3/10/04 5:37:56 PM, trampas4@juno.com writes:


Buffalo robes and bla= nkets thats the way to go. I have never seen sheep skin robes mention in any= period writtings from the mountaineers.

I sure agree with you on the buffalo robes and blankets, and doubt the mount= aineers would have used a sheep skin, especially with buffalo robes readily=20= available. The problem is money... I checked on eBay, and buffalo hides sell= for $500-$1000, while you can get a nice sheep skin for about $60-$75.

I've got two buffalo robes (one 50' square!) but unless I've got a toboggan=20= or horse, I'll carry only my smaller robe, a ground cloth, and sleep on the=20= sheep skin pad..

Magpie
 - --part1_1a9.21424bb3.2d81f5b5_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 15:09:30 EST From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding - -------------------------------1079035770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/11/2004 9:12:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, SWcushing@aol.com writes: sleep on the sheep skin pad They are comfy, but as already said, aren't going to work at primitive events. Covering it in a canvas 'bag' makes it into a bedroll usable at most places. Panther has a bedrool thats 'double' size and slit down the side. The bottom is your ground cloth and if it's wet out the top flap pulled over you becomes a top cloth. You're sleeping on the sheepskin and with a good blanket or two, depending on the weather, your toast (in a good way)! It's a good solution if you aren't ready for a Buffler... Barney - -------------------------------1079035770 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 3/11/2004 9:12:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, SWcushin= g@aol.com writes:
sleep on the sheep skin pad
They are comfy,&nb= sp;but as already said, aren't going to work at primitive eve= nts. Co= vering it in a canvas 'bag' makes it into a bedroll usable at=  most places.
&n= bsp;
Panther has a bedr= ool thats 'double' size and slit down the side. T<= /FONT>he= bottom  is your ground cloth and if it'= s wet out the top flap pulled over you becomes a top cloth.
 
You're sleeping on the sheepskin and with a good blan= ket or two, depending on the weather, your toast (in a good way)! =
&n= bsp;
It's a good soluti= on if you aren't ready for a Buffler...
&n= bsp;
Barney
- -------------------------------1079035770-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 15:19:51 -0700 From: "Ben" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C4077C.4C9E5300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Magpie, You don't happen to have a picture of the buffalo you got that 50' sqare = robe from have ya That's the biggest darn buffalo I ever heard of = :) I know ya meant 50 square feet...but just had to say it. 50 square feet = is a darn big buff. Ben ----- Original Message -----=20 From: SWcushing@aol.com=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 10:02 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding In a message dated 3/10/04 5:37:56 PM, trampas4@juno.com writes: Buffalo robes and blankets thats the way to go. I have never seen = sheep skin robes mention in any period writtings from the mountaineers. I sure agree with you on the buffalo robes and blankets, and doubt the = mountaineers would have used a sheep skin, especially with buffalo robes = readily available. The problem is money... I checked on eBay, and = buffalo hides sell for $500-$1000, while you can get a nice sheep skin = for about $60-$75. I've got two buffalo robes (one 50' square!) but unless I've got a = toboggan or horse, I'll carry only my smaller robe, a ground cloth, and = sleep on the sheep skin pad.. Magpie - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C4077C.4C9E5300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Magpie,
 
You don't happen to have a picture of = the buffalo=20 you got that 50' sqare robe from have ya<VBG> That's the biggest = darn=20 buffalo I ever heard of :)
 
I know ya meant 50 square feet...but = just had to=20 say it.  50 square feet is a darn big buff.
Ben
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 SWcushing@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 = 10:02=20 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: = Bedding


In a message dated 3/10/04 5:37:56 = PM, trampas4@juno.com = writes:


Buffalo robes and blankets thats the way to go. = I have=20 never seen sheep skin robes mention in any period writtings from the = mountaineers.

I sure agree with you on the buffalo robes = and=20 blankets, and doubt the mountaineers would have used a sheep skin, = especially=20 with buffalo robes readily available. The problem is money... I = checked on=20 eBay, and buffalo hides sell for $500-$1000, while you can get a nice = sheep=20 skin for about $60-$75.

I've got two buffalo robes (one 50' = square!)=20 but unless I've got a toboggan or horse, I'll carry only my smaller = robe, a=20 ground cloth, and sleep on the sheep skin=20 pad..

Magpie
 - ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C4077C.4C9E5300-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:22:38 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding - --part1_c6.2933610c.2d826ade_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 3/11/04 2:20:37 PM, beb1@sisna.com writes: >=20 > I know ya meant 50 square feet...but just had to say it.=A0 50 square feet= is=20 > a darn big buff. >=20 > Ben >=20 > Ooooouch....! That hurt ,Ben. ...but here's a jpg of that monster: bull.jpg (JG Image, 1000x750 pixels)=20 http://members.aol.com/swcushing/bull.jpg ....and I swear he squares 25'X25'!!!! Magpie - --part1_c6.2933610c.2d826ade_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 3/11/04 2:20:37 PM, beb1@sisna.com writes:



I know ya meant 50 square feet...but just had to say it.=A0 50 square feet= is a darn big buff.

 Ben

Ooooouch....! That hurt ,Ben. <G> ...but here's a jpg=20= of that monster:
bull.jpg (JG Image,= 1000x750 pixels) http://members.aol.com/swcushing/bull.jpg

....and I swear he squares 25'X25'!!!!

Magpie - --part1_c6.2933610c.2d826ade_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 17:55:23 -0800 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding - ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Magpie, Ya know...you could be cuter, but I know who I'm sleeping with at the next winter doin's . I'm glad it was you who won that buff hunt raffle, couldn't have happened to a better brother. (except me, of course ). You can't beat a good buff robe for cold doin's. Yfab, Randy - ----- Original Message ----- Ooooouch....! That hurt ,Ben. ...but here's a jpg of that monster: bull.jpg (JG Image, 1000x750 pixels) http://members.aol.com/swcushing/bull.jpg ....and I swear he squares 25'X25'!!!! Magpie - ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Magpie,   Ya know...you could be cuter, but I know who I'm sleeping with at the next winter doin's <g>.  I'm glad it was you who won that buff hunt raffle, couldn't have happened to a better brother.  (except me, of course <s>).  You can't beat a good buff robe for cold doin's.  Yfab, Randy
 
 
----- Original Message -----
 


Ooooouch....! That hurt ,Ben. <G> ...but here's a jpg of that monster:
bull.jpg (JG Image, 1000x750 pixels) http://members.aol.com/swcushing/bull.jpg

....and I swear he squares 25'X25'!!!!

Magpie
- ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 18:42:32 -0800 From: "Michael Lessman" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C40798.9D229810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Magpie, Do you see what you started.....now everyone will be flashing = their big buffalo at Randy to get him to sleep with them. LOL Mike ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Randal Bublitz=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:55 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Bedding Magpie, Ya know...you could be cuter, but I know who I'm sleeping = with at the next winter doin's . I'm glad it was you who won that = buff hunt raffle, couldn't have happened to a better brother. (except = me, of course ). You can't beat a good buff robe for cold doin's. = Yfab, Randy ----- Original Message -----=20 Ooooouch....! That hurt ,Ben. ...but here's a jpg of that = monster: bull.jpg (JG Image, 1000x750 pixels) = http://members.aol.com/swcushing/bull.jpg ....and I swear he squares 25'X25'!!!! Magpie - ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C40798.9D229810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Magpie,  Do you see what you = started.....now=20 everyone will be flashing their big buffalo at Randy to get him to sleep = with=20 them. LOL
 
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Randal=20 Bublitz
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 = 5:55=20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: = Bedding

Magpie,   Ya = know...you could=20 be cuter, but I know who I'm sleeping with at the next winter doin's=20 <g>.  I'm glad it was you who won that buff hunt raffle, = couldn't=20 have happened to a better brother.  (except me, of course=20 <s>).  You can't beat a good buff robe for cold = doin's.  Yfab,=20 Randy
 
 
----- Original Message -----
 

Ooooouch....! That hurt ,Ben. = <G> ...but=20 here's a jpg of that monster:
bull.jpg (JG = Image,=20 1000x750 pixels) = http://members.aol.com/swcushing/bull.jpg

....and=20 I swear he squares 25'X25'!!!!

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