From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #1353 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, May 19 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1353 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: sons of a trackless forest -       RE: MtMan-List: Cheveruil -       MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       Re: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       RE: MtMan-List: Cheveruil -       RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       RE: MtMan-List: sons of a trackless forest -       Re: MtMan-List: sons of a trackless forest -       RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       Re: MtMan-List: sons of a trackless forest -       Re: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? -       Re: MtMan-List: Blank load ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:34:51 -0600 (MDT) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: sons of a trackless forest Longshot, I'm confused. The link you provided for the hardbound copy of Mark's Muzzleloader Magazine articles? A Pilgrims Journey. Are you and Larry mistaking this new coming reprint of his articles in book version for his book "Sons of a Trackless Forest"? I wasn't aware that "Sons..." was no longer available from Mark. He had a crate of them at Polebrige and never mentioned them running out. Does anyone know if copies of "Sons..." are still available from Mark Baker? I have his address for Baker's Trace printing but there is no phone or web link. bb > In a message dated 5/16/2004 11:24:59 PM Central Standard Time, > L.Renney@bresnan.net writes: > > <<-----(stuff deleted)-----I've heard rumors that there is going to be > another release this summer, but have not been able to get anything > concrete on > it.-----(stuff deleted)----->> > > > Yes it is being reprinted. You can get the info at: > > http://www.muzzmag.com/Pilgrim's_Journey.htm > > > Longshot > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:36:18 -0600 From: "Angela Gottfred" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Cheveruil "Jerry Bell" jrbell@smartfella.com wrote:=20 >>I am reading Columbia Journals by David Thompson, edited by Barbara = Belyea. In it he says they eat Cheveruil<< In the footnote to Glover's edition of Thompson's _Narrative_ (p. 268), chevreuil is defined as mule deer. Thompson probably isn't eating Roe = Deer, because that is a Eurasian species. Your very humble & most obedient servant, Angela Gottfred www.northwestjournal.ca - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:44:13 -0400 From: TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net (The Grey Wolfe) Subject: MtMan-List: Blank load ? Greetings to to all! Its been quite a while since Ive been on list but I finally have a question that I hope some one out there can help me with. Ive been asked by a local Historical group and Museum to re-enact a Rev. war era Rifleman for there Forth of July Cook Out. Of course the main thing they want me to do is shoot my rifle(.50 cal.) off as much as possible which leads me to my question, it occurs to me that in all the myriad times Ive fired my rifle Ive never fired a blank load and was wondering what size charge to use and weather a precut patch would do to tamp it down or a small wad of cloth or paper would be best? Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! Your Servant, Michael A. Smith "Once kick the world,and the world and you will live together at a reasonable good understanding." ~Jonathan Swift~ http://community.webtv.net/TheGreyWolfe/THELONGHUNTERSCAMP - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 13:08:27 +0000 From: "Sean Boushie" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? We have done a few holdups, prades ect in the past using sots blanks. I use ~80 gr of 2f in my 50 with a ball sized hunk of toliet paper to hold it in. In my 10ga double I use 200gr with a hunk of paper. Now that makes some noise! >From: TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net (The Grey Wolfe) >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Subject: MtMan-List: Blank load ? >Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:44:13 -0400 > >Greetings to to all! Its been quite a while since Ive been on list but I >finally have a question that I hope some one out there can help me with. >Ive been asked by a local Historical group and Museum to re-enact a Rev. >war era Rifleman >for there Forth of July Cook Out. Of course the main thing they want me >to do is shoot my rifle(.50 cal.) off as much as possible which leads me >to my question, it occurs to me that in all the myriad times Ive fired >my rifle Ive never fired a blank load and was wondering what size charge >to use and weather a precut patch would do to tamp it down or a small >wad of cloth or paper would be best? Any thoughts would be greatly >appreciated! > >Your Servant, >Michael A. Smith > >"Once kick the world,and the world and you will live together at a >reasonable good understanding." > >~Jonathan Swift~ > > >http://community.webtv.net/TheGreyWolfe/THELONGHUNTERSCAMP > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html _________________________________________________________________ Get 200+ ad-free, high-fidelity stations and LIVE Major League Baseball Gameday Audio! http://radio.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200491ave/direct/01/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 06:31:08 -0700 (PDT) From: DAVID HOFFMAN Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Blank load ? - --0-510841170-1084887068=:21877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Michael, i've always used between 60gr and 80gr for my blanks, some use more for more of an impression i find even a small load will impress most folks;) what i do is roll the load up in a small piece of newspaper or other light paper, tear one end (not off) pour powder , ram paper down barrel hence small amount of light paper (if not to close to crowd) if the crowd is close just put paper in your bag for later disposal, have fun. 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Michael,
 
i've always used between 60gr and 80gr for my blanks, some use more for more of an impression i find even a small load will impress most folks;) what i do is roll the load up in a small piece of newspaper or other light paper, tear one end (not off) pour powder , ram paper down barrel hence small amount of light paper (if not to close to crowd) if the crowd is close just put paper in your bag for later disposal, have fun. 
 
David


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SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. - --0-510841170-1084887068=:21877-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 07:41:03 -0700 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? Michael, we have done parades, etc.... I would advice using a small piece of cloth on top of a smaller than usual load (30 grains). I would put the cloth in my mouth to wet, and then wd up and push down on top of powder. The last thing you want is a burning piece of paper falling down on the crowd. I have seen a lady get burned, that's when I went to wet cloth for a wad. Randy > [Original Message] > From: > and was wondering what size charge > to use and weather a precut patch would do to tamp it down or a small > wad of cloth or paper would be best? Any thoughts would be greatly > appreciated! > > Your Servant, > Michael A. Smith > > "Once kick the world,and the world and you will live together at a > reasonable good understanding." > > ~Jonathan Swift~ > > > http://community.webtv.net/TheGreyWolfe/THELONGHUNTERSCAMP > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:53:58 -0600 From: "Jerry Bell" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Cheveruil Thank you for the reply; however, Thompson says these deer weight between 30-50 lbs. which leads me to believe they are not mule deer. Jerry - -----Original Message----- From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Angela Gottfred Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 9:36 PM To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Cheveruil "Jerry Bell" jrbell@smartfella.com wrote: >>I am reading Columbia Journals by David Thompson, edited by Barbara Belyea. In it he says they eat Cheveruil<< In the footnote to Glover's edition of Thompson's _Narrative_ (p. 268), chevreuil is defined as mule deer. Thompson probably isn't eating Roe Deer, because that is a Eurasian species. Your very humble & most obedient servant, Angela Gottfred www.northwestjournal.ca - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 09:58:54 -0700 (PDT) From: DAVID HOFFMAN Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? - --0-1614024709-1084899534=:11055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii <<>> which is why i mentioned the part about the crowd, however i neglected to mention if i'm close to a crowd i don't use anything, just powder, you don't get quite as much sound but the flash is still very impressive. David - --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. - --0-1614024709-1084899534=:11055 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
<<<The last thing you want is a burning piece of paper falling down on the
crowd.  I have seen a lady get burned, that's when I went to wet cloth
for
a wad.   Randy>>>

which is why i mentioned the part about the crowd, however i neglected to mention if i'm close to a crowd i don't use anything, just powder, you don't get quite as much sound but the flash is still very impressive.
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SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. - --0-1614024709-1084899534=:11055-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:57:31 -0400 From: TheGreyWolfe@webtv.net (The Grey Wolfe) Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? Thanks for the info guys! If anyone else has anymore ideas I'd be glad to here'm! Thanks again, M. "Once kick the world,and the world and you will live together at a reasonable good understanding." ~Jonathan Swift~ http://community.webtv.net/TheGreyWolfe/THELONGHUNTERSCAMP - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:38:11 -0500 From: John Kramer Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? Small scraps of buckskin (from that pile we all have once we've made a few things) cut to, appropriate-to-the-caliber, squares makes excellent wadding for blanks and shot. Wool blanket also works. SnakeOyl... At 03:57 PM 05/18/04, you wrote: >Thanks for the info guys! If anyone else has >anymore ideas I'd be glad to here'm! > >Thanks again, >M. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:38:11 -0500 From: John Kramer Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? Small scraps of buckskin (from that pile we all have once we've made a few things) cut to, appropriate-to-the-caliber, squares makes excellent wadding for blanks and shot. Wool blanket also works. SnakeOyl... At 03:57 PM 05/18/04, you wrote: >Thanks for the info guys! If anyone else has >anymore ideas I'd be glad to here'm! > >Thanks again, >M. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 16:27:52 -0600 From: "Larry" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: sons of a trackless forest This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C43CF5.11065BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit longshot: good info, except the reprints are from baker's articles in muzzleloader over the last 10 years. Son's of a Trackless Forest was based on his master's thesis and is specific to the Cumberland Long Hunters of the eighteenth century. Different tome. but thanks for checking. larry http://www.muzzmag.com/Pilgrim's_Journey.htm - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C43CF5.11065BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
longshot:   good info, = except the=20 reprints are from baker's articles in muzzleloader over the last 10 = years. =20 Son's of a Trackless Forest was based on his master's thesis and is = specific to=20 the Cumberland Long Hunters of the eighteenth century.  Different=20 tome.  but thanks for checking.
 larry
 
http://www.muzzmag.= com/Pilgrim's_Journey.htm
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C43CF5.11065BE0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 18:44:22 EDT From: LODGEPOLE@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: sons of a trackless forest - -------------------------------1084920262 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/17, beaverboy writes: <<-----(stuf deleted)----- The link you provided for the hardbound copy of Mark's Muzzleloader Magazine articles? A Pilgrims Journey. Are you and Larry mistaking this new coming reprint of his articles in book version for his book "Sons of a Trackless Forest"? -----(stuf deleted)----->> Beaverboy, I recently got a crack repaired in my gunstock, but now it appears I'm on crack. Don't blame Larry, it's just me.....I have no bsiness reading e-mail late at night when I should be in bed. Sorry for the confusion. Longshot - -------------------------------1084920262 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 5/17, beaverboy writes:
 <<-----(stuf d= eleted)----- The link you provided for the ha= rdbound copy of Mark's Muzzleloader Magazine articles? A Pilgrims Journey. A= re you and Larry mistaking this new coming reprint of his articles in book v= ersion for his book "Sons of a Trackless Forest"? -----(stuf deleted)--= - --->>
 
Beaverboy,
 
  I recently got a cr= ack repaired in my gunstock, but now it appears I'm on crack. Don't blame La= rry, it's just me.....I have no bsiness reading e-mail late at night when I=20= should be in bed. Sorry for the confusion.
 
 
Longshot
- -------------------------------1084920262-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 18:20:25 -0600 (MDT) From: beaverboy@sofast.net Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? Our group never shoots blanks toward crowds, no matter how far away they are. We never shoot over their heads either. Sometimes we just can't shoot. We even had to be trained and certified by the National Park Service in black powder safety. The 16 hour course covered weapons safety and inspection, personal safety, historical weapon maintenance, ammunition preparation, flints, weapon drills, handling misfires and maintenance of demonstration area. It's a great course and I recommend it to anyone who owns a blackpowder weapon. All National Parks require it to fire BP weapons on their property. At least up here they do. After taking the course and seeing films of a few guys getting their arms blown off by improperly loading cannons I didn't want to touch BP for a while. I'm still very wary while handling it. I've seen a few untrained guys shoot near crowds in very unsafe ways. Always remember when it comes to shooting around crowds, as you all know, Safety First! > Michael, we have done parades, etc.... I would advice using a small > piece > of cloth on top of a smaller than usual load (30 grains). I would put the > cloth in my mouth to wet, and then wd up and push down on top of powder. > The last thing you want is a burning piece of paper falling down on the > crowd. I have seen a lady get burned, that's when I went to wet cloth for > a wad. Randy > > >> [Original Message] >> From: >> and was wondering what size charge >> to use and weather a precut patch would do to tamp it down or a small >> wad of cloth or paper would be best? Any thoughts would be greatly >> appreciated! >> >> Your Servant, >> Michael A. Smith >> >> "Once kick the world,and the world and you will live together at a >> reasonable good understanding." >> >> ~Jonathan Swift~ >> >> >> http://community.webtv.net/TheGreyWolfe/THELONGHUNTERSCAMP >> >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 19:15:10 -0600 From: "Gene Hickman" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: sons of a trackless forest This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C43D0C.6FF510D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Longshot, Thanks, this is good information, but it is not Sons of a Trackless = Forest. I will order Mark's new book though. As Always,=20 Your Obedient Servant,=20 =20 Gene Hickman ----- Original Message -----=20 From: LODGEPOLE@aol.com=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: sons of a trackless forest In a message dated 5/16/2004 11:24:59 PM Central Standard Time, = L.Renney@bresnan.net writes: <<-----(stuff deleted)-----I've heard rumors that there is going to be = another release this summer, but have not been able to get anything = concrete on it.-----(stuff deleted)----->> Yes it is being reprinted. You can get the info at: http://www.muzzmag.com/Pilgrim's_Journey.htm Longshot - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C43D0C.6FF510D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Longshot,
 
Thanks, this is good information, but it is not Sons of a Trackless = Forest.=20 I will order Mark's new book though.
 
As Always,
Your Obedient Servant,
 
Gene = Hickman
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 LODGEPOLE@aol.com
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 7:02 = PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: sons = of a=20 trackless forest

In a message dated 5/16/2004 11:24:59 PM Central Standard Time, = L.Renney@bresnan.net = writes:
 
<<-----(stuff=20 deleted)-----I've heard rumors that = there is=20 going to be another release this summer, but have not been able to get = anything concrete on it.-----(stuff=20 deleted)----->>
 
 
Yes it is being = reprinted. =20 You can get the info at:
 
http://www.muzzmag.= com/Pilgrim's_Journey.htm
 
 
Longshot
= - ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C43D0C.6FF510D0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 23:46:11 -0500 From: "JIM BRYAN" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Blank load ? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C43D32.4C904940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've used wads of tow or unraveled hemp or jute rope...gotta be careful = though; it's very effective tender, as we all know. Absalom ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Kramer=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 4:38 PM Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? Small scraps of buckskin (from that pile we all have once we've made a = few=20 things) cut to, appropriate-to-the-caliber, squares makes excellent = wadding=20 for blanks and shot. Wool blanket also works. SnakeOyl... At 03:57 PM 05/18/04, you wrote: >Thanks for the info guys! If anyone else has >anymore ideas I'd be glad to here'm! > >Thanks again, >M. ---------------------- hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C43D32.4C904940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've used wads of tow or unraveled hemp or jute rope...gotta be = careful=20 though; it's very effective tender, as we all know.
 
Absalom
----- Original Message -----
From: John Kramer
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 = 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank = load=20 ?

Small scraps of buckskin (from that pile we all have = once we've=20 made a few
things) cut to, appropriate-to-the-caliber, squares = makes=20 excellent wadding
for blanks and shot.  Wool blanket also=20 works.

SnakeOyl...

At 03:57 PM 05/18/04, you=20 wrote:
>Thanks for the info guys! If anyone else = has
>anymore=20 ideas I'd be glad to here'm!
>
>Thanks=20 = again,
>M.





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- ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01C43D32.4C904940-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 12:14:35 -0500 From: "Thom Frazier" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? All large reenacting groups recommend PAPER ONLY for blank loads. The reason is all other materials: cloth (even wet) buckskin, tow, hemp, etc. smolder and are fire hazards. Never shoot over or in the direction of a crowd. The belief that someone was hit by something can do as much damage as actually being hit. Weeping Heart Gunn Shoppe Thom Frazier 36732 Oak Point Rd. New York Mills MN 56567 218-385-2074 mnthom@arvig.net - -----Original Message----- From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of The Grey Wolfe Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2004 3:58 PM To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? Thanks for the info guys! If anyone else has anymore ideas I'd be glad to here'm! Thanks again, M. "Once kick the world,and the world and you will live together at a reasonable good understanding." ~Jonathan Swift~ http://community.webtv.net/TheGreyWolfe/THELONGHUNTERSCAMP - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 11:01:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Schrivener Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Blank load ? - --0-1687311240-1084989666=:40856 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paper smoulders as well. Back in March I was down on the Osage Nation for a tactical, the paper from a cartidge in a brown bess musket started to catch the leaf litter. It was smoking quite nicely, which is how we noticed it and stomped it out. I would figure buckskin the least likely substance to smoulder of those listed. Interesting. Never considered making cartridges out of leather. Thom Frazier wrote: All large reenacting groups recommend PAPER ONLY for blank loads. The reason is all other materials: cloth (even wet) buckskin, tow, hemp, etc. smolder and are fire hazards. Never shoot over or in the direction of a crowd. The belief that someone was hit by something can do as much damage as actually being hit. Weeping Heart Gunn Shoppe Thom Frazier 36732 Oak Point Rd. New York Mills MN 56567 218-385-2074 mnthom@arvig.net - --0-1687311240-1084989666=:40856 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Paper smoulders as well.   Back in March I was down on the Osage Nation for a tactical, the paper from a cartidge in a brown bess musket started to catch the leaf litter.   It was smoking quite nicely, which is how we noticed it and stomped it out.
 
I would figure buckskin the least likely substance to smoulder of those listed.   Interesting.  Never considered making cartridges out of leather.  
 

Thom Frazier <mnthom@arvig.net> wrote:
All large reenacting groups recommend PAPER ONLY for blank loads. The reason
is all other materials: cloth (even wet) buckskin, tow, hemp, etc. smolder
and are fire hazards. Never shoot over or in the direction of a crowd. The
belief that someone was hit by something can do as much damage as actually
being hit.
Weeping Heart Gunn Shoppe
Thom Frazier
36732 Oak Point Rd.
New York Mills MN 56567
218-385-2074
mnthom@arvig.net
 
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