From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #205 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, December 27 1998 Volume 01 : Number 205 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Dec 98 12:02:31 -00800 (PST) From: DPOCTALC@aol.com (DON) Subject: MtMan-List: Leapin lizards - from DON Guess what!! 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In fact while in St. Louis the winter of 1803-1804 a local physician scraped the mercury off the back of his wive's mirror, in order to make some more thermometers,to ensure an adequate supply. It was not to be though, much to both Lewis & Clarks dismay, the last one was broken going over that very steep and rough terrain of the Bitterroots Mountains at Lost Trail Pass. Hope this casts a little more light. Respecfully, Bob Hannon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 14:59:20 -0800 From: Roger Lahti Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinsmithing? Greg N Bosen Bosen wrote: > i'm interested in learning to tinsmith. Where would be a good place to > start. Any books at the library i should try? what are the basic tools > needed? my father is a Goldsmith so i have access to his tool when > needed. they seem to be different though. > > Greg Bosen Greg, Try Lindsay Publications Inc., PO Box 538, Bradley IL. 60915-0538, 815/935-5353. They specialize in books on somewhat out of date technology and have a starter book that deals with what you want to know. I do a bit of copper bending and it doesn't take many tools. They are simple and easy to build. I'm glad to see that you have such a close relationship with your father but his "tool" will not do you any good in bending tin unless he came from Krypton. I think you meant "tools" plural. I use a simple homemade metal "Brake" , a couple of small ball peen hammers, some molds made from pine boards, pliers, and a small piece of 1/4" bar stock that is used to turn and roll flanges. Hope this is of help. If you have more specific questions let me know. I remain....... YMOS Capt. lahti' > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 04:21:59 EST From: RR1LA@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinsmithing? Greg, The tools and techniques for smithing gold/silver/platinum are far different than those for working with tin. For instance, tinsmiths use a relatively low-temperature soldering iron (either forge heated or electric) and precious metalsmiths use an extremely high-temperature torch. The hand tools, solders, pickles and polishing compounds are also different. You might want or need patterns, snips, hammer & punch, simple shape-forms, a bender/brake, and rods for rolling edges. For books and such, try www.amazon.com, as they have an pretty incredible selection, and let you see book reviews, publisher's notes, and have a return policy second to none. Also, search the 'web' under tinsmithing and you will find both historical and modern projects for your consideration. Hope this helps, YHS, Barney P. Fife ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 18:26:30 -0800 (PST) From: zaslow Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Burning out canoes Don, Although I don't know the answer (I'm more concerned with horses), I would recommend getting a copy of L & Cs Journals. The version that would probably have this info would be the one edited by Elliot Coues. It is in 3 volumes from Dover press and about $22 - $25 in paperback (ISBN 0-486-21268-8.) I haven't read it in a long time, but remember it somewhere. Best Regards, Jerry (Meriwether) Zaslow #1488 ________________________________________________________________________________ At 05:49 PM 12/23/98 EST, you wrote: >Thanks to you all for the responses - I got on this list because of similar >interests. >Thanks Hardtack ( what is a Long Spanish Pause ? ), Randy, Pat, Lanney and >Capt. Lahti. >Question: when Lewis and Clark spent five days at canoe camp near Orofino, >Idaho, the Indians there showed the Corps how to burn out the canoes as this >was a faster process then hacking away at them. I know the burning process >involved water to cool the canoe/tree but how was >all this done and what kind of trees were the best to use? >Does anyone have an answer? >Thanks >Foot in his mouth Don > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 21:44:36 -0500 (EST) From: ikon@mindspring.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Burning out canoes I have been back here reading all these posts and yesterday I mentioned to my wife "sweetie, ya know what would be neat, making a dug out canoe" to my suprise she agreed. Now all I need to do is find a tree, she expects one by the spring. Me and my big mouth. Happy Holidays Frank V. Rago At 06:26 PM 12/26/98 -0800, you wrote: >Don, > >Although I don't know the answer (I'm more concerned with horses), I would >recommend getting a copy of L & Cs Journals. The version that would >probably have this info would be the one edited by Elliot Coues. It is in 3 >volumes from Dover press and about $22 - $25 in paperback (ISBN >0-486-21268-8.) I haven't read it in a long time, but remember it somewhere. > >Best Regards, > >Jerry (Meriwether) Zaslow #1488 >___________________________________________________________________________ _____ > >At 05:49 PM 12/23/98 EST, you wrote: >>Thanks to you all for the responses - I got on this list because of similar >>interests. >>Thanks Hardtack ( what is a Long Spanish Pause ? ), Randy, Pat, Lanney and >>Capt. Lahti. >>Question: when Lewis and Clark spent five days at canoe camp near Orofino, >>Idaho, the Indians there showed the Corps how to burn out the canoes as this >>was a faster process then hacking away at them. I know the burning process >>involved water to cool the canoe/tree but how was >>all this done and what kind of trees were the best to use? >>Does anyone have an answer? >>Thanks >>Foot in his mouth Don >> >> > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:00:16 -0800 From: "Jerry H. Wheeler" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: tinsmithing? go to the web an typ tinsmithing and injoy. iron tongue Roger Lahti wrote: > Greg N Bosen Bosen wrote: > > > i'm interested in learning to tinsmith. Where would be a good place to > > start. Any books at the library i should try? what are the basic tools > > needed? my father is a Goldsmith so i have access to his tool when > > needed. they seem to be different though. > > > > Greg Bosen > > Greg, > > Try Lindsay Publications Inc., PO Box 538, Bradley IL. 60915-0538, > 815/935-5353. > > They specialize in books on somewhat out of date technology and have a > starter book that deals with what you want to know. I do a bit of copper > bending and it doesn't take many tools. They are simple and easy to build. > I'm glad to see that you have such a close relationship with your father but > his "tool" will not do you any good in bending tin unless he came from > Krypton. I think you meant "tools" plural. I use a simple homemade metal > "Brake" , a couple of small ball peen hammers, some molds made from pine > boards, pliers, and a small piece of 1/4" bar stock that is used to turn and > roll flanges. > > Hope this is of help. If you have more specific questions let me know. I > remain....... > > YMOS > Capt. lahti' > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:54:39 -0800 From: j2hearts@juno.com (John C Funk) Subject: MtMan-List: unsubscribe Unsubscribe J2hearts@juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:52:08 EST From: DPOCTALC@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Burning out canoes Thanks Jerry, I appreciate your taking the time to write me, I have those journals and will check into them. Don ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #205 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.