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hist_text-digest       Wednesday, March 17 1999       Volume 01 : Number 259




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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:04:58 EST
From: KINJANO@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women

In a message dated 99-03-17 01:47:32 EST, you write:

<< yes, would love a ladies get together.   >>


since barb mentioned Mt. Rainier, i am sure that we are probably a good
distance apart from each other...... but i thought i would tell you that we
ARE having a women's rendezvous here in n.w. ohio in September.  It's the
offspring of the old Pathway's Rendezvous for Women that was held every year
for 7 years.  The lady that put on that event retired and we were without one
in this area for two years.  Then a couple of us got together and started this
new one: The Daughters of the Rapids Women's Rendezvous.  Last year was our
first and we had over 60 women and young ladies show up for it........ this
year wear already have 30 pre-registered for it and expect to go over 100 for
the 3 day weekend.......  

I remember one year, when Pathways was still running, a couple of ladies came
down from Alaska for that event!!!!!!! They flew in with just their personal
gear and we set them up with tentage, bedding, camp gear, etc....... they
brought whale meat and fresh salmon for the Saturday night potluck (flew down
in an "igloo" cooler packed with dry ice)......... what a treat!

I hope you gals can get your event off of the ground....... anything i can do
to help, let me know!  and if you like i can snail mail you a copy of this
year's flyer or go to www.7e.org on the web and look at the site where we hold
the event!

kinjano
(a.k.a. scary mary)

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:01:09 EST
From: TrapRJoe@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Tinware

How about getting back to the original question.  How to take care of tin ware
so it doesn't rust since tin is also very bad to rust.

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:18:49 EST
From: TrapRJoe@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women

No What did the Indian women do to white men

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:56:45 EST
From: TrapRJoe@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Snapping Turtle Shell-Hunting Pouch

Check with your State Trappers Assn.  I bought a large tanned snapping turtle
head from a trapper from your state.  He was also selling sausage and tanned
goods from snapping turtles caught in your state.  I met him at the National
Trappers Assn. Convention in MO. this last year.  Penn. has their own
conventions, and the National Convention will be in New York this year.
                                         TrapRJoe

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:09:49 EST
From: TrapRJoe@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question

TEXAS -- Oklahoma's Bull pasture

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 10:06:25 EST
From: TrapRJoe@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: turtle shell pouch

I would love to see what you make but I can't get anything to come up at the
address you gave.  Can you help?

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:30:17 -0500
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question

<sweetie!>

>>>This means you are of the female persuasion...Please say yes..<G>
D

   "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
          DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
  Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
    http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
>

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 08:45:21 -0800
From: Roger Lahti <lahtirog@gte.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Tinware

TrapRJoe@aol.com wrote:

> How about getting back to the original question.  How to take care of tin ware
> so it doesn't rust since tin is also very bad to rust.

Trapper,

I have some tin ware that has never rusted on me and all I did was avoid using
soap without reoiling it some how. I guess you treat it a bit like cast iron. You
can't get it very hot while empty but hot water and a rag is usually enough
cleaning. Anything more than that and it will need some oiling after the soap and
water or next time out it may rust on you too quick to fix. Well, I hope this
helps anyway. I remain....

YMOS
Capt. Lahti'

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:19:11 -0800
From: Pat Laughlin <pat1@pe.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question

yes, am of the female persuasion

Dennis Miles wrote:

> <sweetie!>
>
> >>>This means you are of the female persuasion...Please say yes..<G>
> D
>
>    "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
>           DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
>   Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
>     http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
> >

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:39:10 -0500
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question

Whew!!...
D
   "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
          DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
  Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
    http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
- -----Original Message-----
From: Pat Laughlin <pat1@pe.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question


>yes, am of the female persuasion
>
>Dennis Miles wrote:
>
>> <sweetie!>
>>
>> >>>This means you are of the female persuasion...Please say yes..<G>
>> D
>>
>>    "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
>>           DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
>>   Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
>>     http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
>> >
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:18:25 -0700 (MST)
From: delis@aztec.asu.edu (BRUCE S. DE LIS)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: turtle shell pouch

Went down this A.M., and check out your
bag where I can have full internet access.

Very nice, now I need a Shell....

B
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> B.
>
>I have made several snapping turtle shell pouches. One of which can be
>seen at 
>
>home.earthlink.net/~fsimmons/post.htm
>
>go down to clothing and bags and click there.
>
>I also have made dozens of bags from smaller turtle shells and I came
>up with a knive sheath that I make from turle. My next project is to
>make a derrenger holder from one.
>
>If you are using a shell with the bottom off make sure it is good and
>clean. I then drill holes all  around the edge (except for the top
>opening). next I lay the shell on a piece of leather and trace it. I
>make one piece to go into the shell and one I cut extra large so that
>I can cut fringe. I glue the ist piece into the shell and once it is
>dried I take an awl and go around and punch out the holes. I then lay
>the shell onto the 2nd piece and going around the endge I mark the
>holes. It then is a simple mater of sewing it all together and cutting
>the lace. for a strap I usually briad some leather but you don't have
>to. good luck.
>
>
>
>
>==
>
>
>      Rick(Walks in the Night)Pickert
>
>
>_________________________________________________________
>DO YOU YAHOO!?
>Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>

- --
"The Price Of Freedom
     Is Not Free" 

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 14:03:13 -0500
From: "sean" <sean@peganet.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question

I'll set it up tonite, and the URL will be
http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Geyser/3216/HistList.htm

I'll put the pix on it asap after I get them...




- -----Original Message-----
From: KINJANO@aol.com <KINJANO@aol.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question


>In a message dated 99-03-16 23:09:23 EST, you write:
>
><< Tell you all what... if you want a page just to pit pix on, I'll set upa
> "backdoor" page on my Ronnyvous web site that only we will have the URL
> to...  Email me pix and a description and I'll put them on it...
>
> Let me know if any of you want me to do that...
>
> Addison Miller >>
>
>i do! i do! ........... i'll send you copies of the photos early next
>week...... getting ready to go to Kalamazoo gun show tomorrow so i don't
have
>time tonight to get the pix off to you!
>kinjano
>
>

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 11:30:17 -0800
From: Pat Quilter <pat_quilter@qscaudio.com>
Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Re: Tinware

I think we've seen a pretty good response to preventing tinware rusting. To
summarize, dry your tinware thoroughly especially before storing. Do not
expect to store liquids or leave half-full overnight without rusting. Some
degree of seasoning (avoiding harsh detergents) is recommended by some.
Avoid scratching the tin -- handle with care, do not clean with abrasives,
and use wooden utensils. Never boil your cup dry. Buy quality tinware with
good seams. Repairs of rusty seams is possible but tricky. Finally, I have
an old cup which started rusting years ago, but by continuing to dry it
reasonably quickly after each use, it has not deteriorated that much and
remains usable.
  And while we're on the subject, the "hot rim" problem can also be
alleviated by not filling the cup to the brim, and of course, by drawing air
over the rim as you approach that first sip of hot coffee. Tinware is much
more forgiving in this respect than copperware, although not as forgiving as
horn or wood.
YMOS
Patrick Quilter.  

- -----Original Message-----
From: TrapRJoe@aol.com [mailto:TrapRJoe@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 7:01 AM
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Tinware


How about getting back to the original question.  How to take care of tin
ware
so it doesn't rust since tin is also very bad to rust.

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:19:54 -0600
From: "Brian McNutt" <b_cory_mcnutt@email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question

Oklahoma --Texas' cesspool (there ain't a river between 'em for nuthin').
Brian

- -----Original Message-----
From: TrapRJoe@aol.com <TrapRJoe@aol.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question


>TEXAS -- Oklahoma's Bull pasture
>

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:48:50 -0600
From: John Dearing <jdearing@mail.theriver.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: new to list and have a question

>
> >  Man don't ever ask a feller where he's from.  If he is a Texian, he'll
> >tell you right off.  If he isn't, there ain't no need in embarrassing him.

I heard a story about Texas pride, and though some of the list might enjoy it. <LOL>

Three guys, a Nebraskan, A Texan, and a Coloradoan are out walking
>together one day.  They come across a lantern and a Genie pops out of
>it.  "I will give you each one wish, that's three wishes total," says
>the Genie.
>
>The Nebraskan says, "I am a farmer, my dad was a farmer, and my son will
>also farm.  I want the land to be forever fertile in Nebraska."  With a
>blink of the Genie's eye, 'FOOM" the land in Nebraska is forever made
>fertile for farming.
>
>The Texan is amazed, so he says,  "I want a wall around Texas so that no
>foreigners can come into our precious state!"  Again, with a blink of
>the Genie's eye 'POOF' there is a huge wall around Texas.
>
>The Coloradoan asks, "I'm very curious.  Please tell me more about this
>wall."  The Genie explains, "Well, its about 150 feet high, 50 feet
>thick and completely surrounds the state.  Nothing can get in or out."
>The Coloradoan says, "Sounds like a good place for a lake. Fill it up."
>

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 15:13:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Pickert <walksinthenight@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: turtle shell pouch

 TRAPRJOE:
you must have done some thing wrong as Bruce got in! If you e-mail me
direct with your snail mail I can send some Pics. I do not have a
puter of my own, I use the one at work.
Rick


- ---TrapRJoe@aol.com wrote:
>
> I would love to see what you make but I can't get anything to come
up at the
> address you gave.  Can you help?
> 
> 

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:35:37 EST
From: KINJANO@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question

In a message dated 3/17/99 11:35:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
deforge1@wesnet.com writes:

<< Please say yes..<G> >>

yes, yeppers, you bet, si, ya, absolutely, without a doubt,
etc...............100% female!
kinjano
(a.k.a. scary mary)

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:58:26 -0500
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: new to list and have a question

Now THAT is humor!!!!!!!!!<G>
D

   "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
          DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
  Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
    http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
- -----Original Message-----
From: John Dearing <jdearing@mail.theriver.net>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 6:49 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: new to list and have a question


>>
>> >  Man don't ever ask a feller where he's from.  If he is a Texian, he'll
>> >tell you right off.  If he isn't, there ain't no need in embarrassing
him.
>
>I heard a story about Texas pride, and though some of the list might enjoy
it. <LOL>
>
>Three guys, a Nebraskan, A Texan, and a Coloradoan are out walking
>>together one day.  They come across a lantern and a Genie pops out of
>>it.  "I will give you each one wish, that's three wishes total," says
>>the Genie.
>>
>>The Nebraskan says, "I am a farmer, my dad was a farmer, and my son will
>>also farm.  I want the land to be forever fertile in Nebraska."  With a
>>blink of the Genie's eye, 'FOOM" the land in Nebraska is forever made
>>fertile for farming.
>>
>>The Texan is amazed, so he says,  "I want a wall around Texas so that no
>>foreigners can come into our precious state!"  Again, with a blink of
>>the Genie's eye 'POOF' there is a huge wall around Texas.
>>
>>The Coloradoan asks, "I'm very curious.  Please tell me more about this
>>wall."  The Genie explains, "Well, its about 150 feet high, 50 feet
>>thick and completely surrounds the state.  Nothing can get in or out."
>>The Coloradoan says, "Sounds like a good place for a lake. Fill it up."
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:01:22 -0500
From: deforge1@wesnet.com (Dennis Miles)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question

Thank you.. With all these Texians on the list, ya never REALLY know...<G>
D

   "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e"
          DOUBLE EDGE FORGE
  Period Knives & Iron Accouterments
    http://www.wesnet.com/deforge1
- -----Original Message-----
From: KINJANO@aol.com <KINJANO@aol.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: new to list and have a question


>In a message dated 3/17/99 11:35:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>deforge1@wesnet.com writes:
>
><< Please say yes..<G> >>
>
>yes, yeppers, you bet, si, ya, absolutely, without a doubt,
>etc...............100% female!
>kinjano
>(a.k.a. scary mary)
>
>

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:07:12 -0600
From: "larry pendleton" <yrrw@cyberramp.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: LUBE

Hawk,
  Good to hear from you.  The piece on the patch lube was very interesting.
 I have used them all.  Some fairly successfully, but most not.  I could
never figure out why you would want to use camphor or wintergreen in a
patch lube that you would use when hunting.  I to make and sell a patch
lube.  I sell it locally, although I have advertised it in a magazine.  I
became quite discouraged by the outrageous claims made by the large
companies.  Also there is no way a guy working out of his house can compete
with the ad budgets of those guys.  The claims that are made by national
brand lube companies are so outlandish it is unreal, and yet the vast
majority of black powder shooters buy it hook line and sinker.
  The other fellow Tim Austin was refering to is Gene High.  Gene and I are
in the same area, and are friendly competitors.
Pendleton  

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:26:18 -0700 
From: "john c. funk,jr" <j2hearts@shasta.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800

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Dean,

First, let me thank you, again, for your efforts to establish a =
historical forum in which some of us have gained much valuable =
information.  I for one, truly appreciate your web site and what it =
potentially offers.
Having said that, it appears that the site has turned into a "chat" line =
for those who wish to exchange jokes, snide remarks and other assorted =
drivel, none of which is of any value to those of us who originally =
subscribed and who remain in the shadows waiting to pounce on anything =
resembling  a pertinent, Fur Trade Era,  exchange of historical =
information.  During the "early years" of this site there were some =
vibrant exchanges of real historical data which prompted  us to head for =
the books and do some research to either add to or (cordially) dispute =
various assertions.  That atmosphere appears to be suffering a rapid =
death.
I am wondering if there any way a monthly admonishment, for lack of a =
better term, could be automatically posted on the site which reiterates =
the principal under which the site was originally established?=20
I know you've done a lot for the site and I apologize for hanging this =
on you, but I for one have about had it with some of this B.S. and I =
know of a couple of others who have a wealth of potential valuable =
information to share who have really been done in by the superfluous =
trivia that now exists on the site.  It would be a shame to loose what =
you originally established  and which broadened the knowledge of us all =
concerning the enchanting era of the Fur Trade.
Yr. Obdnt. Srvnt.
John Funk                     =20

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:31:35 -0700
From: jbrandl@wyoming.com (Joe Brandl)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800

Thank you John
Joe
Tired of hitting the delete in Wyoming

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Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 19:35:52 -0700
From: "Ron Chamberlain" <cstmzd@ida.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Canadian Cap & rabiit fur

Hello,

Can anybody document the Canadian Cap during the Rcky Mt fur trade,
particularily late 1830's?
Was also wondering about use of rabbit fur for moccasin liners (socks).

Thanks,
YMOS
Lonewolf

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:11:40 -0600
From: "Jody Carlson" <sjsdm@conpoint.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800

John,

Hear, Hear.

sjsdm@conpoint.com

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:19:40 -0700
From: David & Evelyn Mullen <dmullen@jemez.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800

Mr. Funk,

Well said! Let's get back to the purpose of this group - the discussion
of history.

Yr. Obdnt. Srvnt.
David Mullen

- -- 
David & Evelyn Mullen
202 Mesa Verde
Jemez Springs, NM 87025
505.829.3212
email:dmullen@jemez.com

john c. funk,jr wrote:
> 
> Dean,
>  
> First, let me thank you, again, for your efforts to establish a
> historical forum in which some of us have gained much valuable
> information.  I for one, truly appreciate your web site and what it
> potentially offers.
> Having said that, it appears that the site has turned into a "chat"
> line for those who wish to exchange jokes, snide remarks and other
> assorted drivel, none of which is of any value to those of us who
> originally subscribed and who remain in the shadows waiting to pounce
> on anything resembling  a pertinent, Fur Trade Era,  exchange of
> historical information.  During the "early years" of this site there
> were some vibrant exchanges of real historical data which prompted  us
> to head for the books and do some research to either add to or
> (cordially) dispute various assertions.  That atmosphere appears to be
> suffering a rapid death.
> I am wondering if there any way a monthly admonishment, for lack of a
> better term, could be automatically posted on the site which
> reiterates the principal under which the site was originally
> established?
> I know you've done a lot for the site and I apologize for hanging this
> on you, but I for one have about had it with some of this B.S. and I
> know of a couple of others who have a wealth of potential valuable
> information to share who have really been done in by the superfluous
> trivia that now exists on the site.  It would be a shame to loose what
> you originally established  and which broadened the knowledge of us
> all concerning the enchanting era of the Fur Trade.
> Yr. Obdnt. Srvnt.
> John Funk                     

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 22:08:47 -0600
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Lube

You are talking about Gene High and he makes sissy pink stuff, although =
he doesn't call it that.  The ingredients are period enough except for =
the little teeny piece of Crayola crayon that gives it its =
characteristic color.  It IS a pretty good lube and I have a container =
of it.  However, I use Edge-of-the-Woods, Pendleton's Finest, Gun and =
Barrell Grease.  It is very similar stuff but is a much more manly =
color.
Lanney Ratcliff
- -----Original Message-----
From: Austin, Tim <AustinT@doimex2.sill.army.mil>
To: 'hist_text@xmission.com' <hist_text@xmission.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 8:14 AM
Subject: MtMan-List: Lube


>Have been using a lube produced by a guy in the Dallas/Fort Worth area =
for
>years and it is great.  He says there is nothing in it that was not =
readily
>available prior to 1840.  He is in Commanche Peak Muzzleloaders.  I do =
not
>have the name of the stuff here with me, will look it up tonight and =
send it
>tomorrow if anyone interested.  His name is Jean Hyde or something like
>that.  Others on the list might know of him and what I am speaking of.
>Anyway, works really good, and is easier to me just to cut strips of =
100%
>thin cotton, and grease them myself.
>
>Tim Austin
>

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:02:05 -0800
From: Barbara Smith <barbsmth@portland.quik.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women

Pat,
The one in 1996 was held on Mt. Rainier in Washington. Where are you
located?

As for men sneaking in, I heard that a flatlander out hiking happened to
stumble upon the camp.  It was a hot July day, and the gals was all just
traipsing about in chemises, some of them wet from swimming.  Margaret
said he nearly had a heart attack!  Don't think sentries would be
necessary, we'd just scare 'em to death!  I told Margaret we ought to
let in any man who'se willing to cross-dress female, and abide by our
Mountain Women Rules.  (We're working on those rules.  Think something
like full-body shaving with a straight razor might be in order.)

On another note, the lube discussion is very interesting.  I'd love to
know more about this all-natural lube Kinjano has.  Thank you much for
posting all the information about the various brands out there, Hawk.
I'm a bit confused, though.  Was that YOUR speech, or did you raid that
from somewhere? Anyway, bottom line, are you recommending I use my
"Natural Ice Mentholated Lipbalm (SPF 14)"  for patch lube, or are you
telling me that I'm gonna get asphalt build up in my rifle if I do?

AND, does anyone have a source of historic documentation as to the
contents of patch lube used in the early 19th century?  I'm not against
making my own, if that's a better solution.  God knows I've got plenty
of chapstick!  If there's a recipe to be had, someone please share it.

Yer Most Disobedient Servant,
- -Barbara, aka Tassee, Ticky Eena, and Miss Letitia Work

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 20:31:01 -0800
From: Pat Laughlin <pat1@pe.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women

Barbara,

We have had a group of gals that have camped together many times and really
enjoyed it.  I'm in Southern California and have always wanted to do a
female gathering.  Think it would be fun and also would give us a chance to
see how it would/could have been.  Many of the encampments we do today have
basically women in them during the day and many for most of the encampment
as the guys are at their jobs and come in for the weekend.  We have done
soap and candlemaking and the chores that would have been left for the
women. Really did make teamwork necessary.

Barbara Smith wrote:

> Pat,
> The one in 1996 was held on Mt. Rainier in Washington. Where are you
> located?
>
> As for men sneaking in, I heard that a flatlander out hiking happened to
> stumble upon the camp.  It was a hot July day, and the gals was all just
> traipsing about in chemises, some of them wet from swimming.  Margaret
> said he nearly had a heart attack!  Don't think sentries would be
> necessary, we'd just scare 'em to death!  I told Margaret we ought to
> let in any man who'se willing to cross-dress female, and abide by our
> Mountain Women Rules.  (We're working on those rules.  Think something
> like full-body shaving with a straight razor might be in order.)
>
> On another note, the lube discussion is very interesting.  I'd love to
> know more about this all-natural lube Kinjano has.  Thank you much for
> posting all the information about the various brands out there, Hawk.
> I'm a bit confused, though.  Was that YOUR speech, or did you raid that
> from somewhere? Anyway, bottom line, are you recommending I use my
> "Natural Ice Mentholated Lipbalm (SPF 14)"  for patch lube, or are you
> telling me that I'm gonna get asphalt build up in my rifle if I do?
>
> AND, does anyone have a source of historic documentation as to the
> contents of patch lube used in the early 19th century?  I'm not against
> making my own, if that's a better solution.  God knows I've got plenty
> of chapstick!  If there's a recipe to be had, someone please share it.
>
> Yer Most Disobedient Servant,
> -Barbara, aka Tassee, Ticky Eena, and Miss Letitia Work

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 23:34:38 -0500
From: "sean" <sean@peganet.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A Gathering of Women

I told Margaret we ought to
>let in any man who'se willing to cross-dress female, and abide by our
>Mountain Women Rules.  (We're working on those rules.  Think something
>like full-body shaving with a straight razor might be in order.)
>
 Decides this is probably a VERY good time to stay in Florida.....

Sean

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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 23:35:48 -0500
From: "Lewis Kevin Raper" <POSSUMHUNTER@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800

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Gee John,
I have found some very interesting postings on the list. The patch lube =
thread that is now going on is pretty good, and I am sure glad to know =
the proper load of parched corn fer my musket :-) The info on the =
dug-out house was also good. Other infomative threads have been Tinware, =
Oilcloth, Granitware, and Stock Preservation. As a greenhorn, I have =
found alot of useful information. Iffin ya don't like the posts that =
somebody makes, get Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0, and use the E-Mail =
junk mail filter to block them!
"No man can truly know Christ except he follow him in life" ( Testimony =
of Anabaptist leader Hans Denk)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: john c. funk,jr=20
  To: Dean Rudy=20
  Cc: history line=20
  Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 1999 9:26 PM
  Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03 -0800


  Dean,
  =20
  First, let me thank you, again, for your efforts to establish a =
historical forum in which some of us have gained much valuable =
information.  I for one, truly appreciate your web site and what it =
potentially offers.
  Having said that, it appears that the site has turned into a "chat" =
line for those who wish to exchange jokes, snide remarks and other =
assorted drivel, none of which is of any value to those of us who =
originally subscribed and who remain in the shadows waiting to pounce on =
anything resembling  a pertinent, Fur Trade Era,  exchange of historical =
information.<SNIP>
  John Funk                     =20

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glad to=20
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dug-out=20
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Oilcloth,=20
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useful=20
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Microsoft=20
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them!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&quot;No man can truly know Christ except he follow him in =
life&quot; (=20
Testimony of Anabaptist leader Hans Denk)</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:j2hearts@shasta.com" title=3Dj2hearts@shasta.com>john =
c.=20
  funk,jr</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:drudy@montek.com" =
title=3Ddrudy@montek.com>Dean=20
  Rudy</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:hist_text@lists.xmission.com"=20
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  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 17, 1999 9:26 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> MtMan-List: Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 18:27:03=20
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Dean,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>First, let me thank you, again, =
for your=20
  efforts to establish a historical forum in which some of us have =
gained much=20
  valuable information.&nbsp; I for one, truly appreciate your web site =
and what=20
  it potentially offers.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Having said that, it appears that =
the site has=20
  turned into a &quot;chat&quot; line for those who wish to exchange =
jokes,=20
  snide remarks and other assorted drivel, none of which is of any value =
to=20
  those of us who originally subscribed and who remain in the shadows =
waiting to=20
  pounce on anything resembling&nbsp; a pertinent, Fur Trade Era,&nbsp; =
exchange=20
  of historical information.&lt;SNIP&gt;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>John=20
  =
Funk&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
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