From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #263 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Sunday, March 21 1999 Volume 01 : Number 263 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 09:59:12 -0700 From: "Barry Conner" Subject: OT Re: MtMan-List: Re: Message Protocol Angela, I'm leaving some of your remarks at the bottom of this comment because what you have stated and what Pat has asked is only common sense. We all like a joke, just like Dennis has stated and it makes reading a little lighter than just straight facts day in and day out. The main concern is we don't make extra work for our web master, Dean. So lets try and keep our "subject" reference to the item being discussed. this way Dean doesn't have to read everything that the system kicks out for the "listing" we all enjoy, Dean has provided a great source for all to enjoy, so "lets not kill the goose that laid the golden egg" with being over worked. I know some will cry about this, but they're not the one doing the work either, like Pat and Angela have stated use a code in the "subject line" to tip off the ones not wanting to read "out of text" material and give Dean a break, he works to hard as it is. Thanks for your understanding. Buck Conner PS Any of you working for someone else will relate to this joke, wonder if the fur trade had these problems with management ?? Another Management Plan !!! This may sound more familiar if you use your company's name in place of the American Team's name. The Americans and the Japanese decided to engage in a competitive boat race. Both teams practiced hard and long to reach their peak performance. On the big day the Americans felt ready, but the Japanese won by a mile. Afterward, the American team was discouraged by the loss. Morale sagged. Corporate management decided that the reason for the crushing defeat had to be found, so a consulting firm was hired to investigate the problem and recommended corrective action. The consultant's finding: The Japanese team had eight people rowing and one person steering; the American team had one person rowing and eight people steering. After a year of study and millions spent analyzing the problem, the consultant firm concluded that too many people were steering and not enough were rowing on the American team. So as the next race day neared the following year, the American team's management structure was completely reorganized. The new structure: four steering managers, three area steering managers and a new performance review system for the person rowing the boat to provide work incentive. The next year, the Japanese won by two miles. Humiliated, the American corporation laid off the rower for poor performance and gave the managers a bonus for discovering the problem. - -----Original Message----- From: Angela Gottfred >Pat Quilter's comments are excellent. I'd like to add a couple more tips; I >hope they will be received in the spirit in which they are offered. This is >'netiquette' I have learned from other lists. > >--If you want to post "chit-chat" (jokes or other stuff not directly >relevant to the Rocky Mountain fur trade from 1800 to 1850), put "OT" at the >beginning of your subject line (like I did with this message). It stands for >"off topic", and is a warning to certain list members to delete without reading. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:02:27 EST From: JSeminerio@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Native American Dogs In a message dated 3/20/99 1:20:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, Duncanm@connected.net.nz writes: << Dogs used by the Native Americans >> Smithsonian Magazine, March 1999 goes into the DNA experiment that are going on right now concerning domestic dog breeds. The "Carolina Dog" is the main interest of the article. It is a "Yaller Dog" (yellow) the kind Southern Democrats would vote for. The electronic address is www.smithsonianmag.si.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 13:20:34 -0800 From: "John Hunt" Subject: MtMan-List: 1st beaver skinn`in List members; At this time I would like to applaud all beaver skinners past and present, Huzzah!!! Yesterday I skinned my 1st. beaver. All my previous skinning experience has been rabbit, squirrel, ground hogs and a couple of deer. The ole beaver was 53# by the bathroom scales. The beaver had been under for a while. Needless to say the beaver being cold didn`t want to remove his fur coat. I let`em warm in the sun a few days, I don`t think it helped much. With much knife and blue language I finally got the sob`s coat off. The tail wasn`t too bad to skin. I pulled and pulled just wasn`t strong enough to pull it very far, more knife. An AMM friend Dennis Miles gave me some tips on what to keep, I kept skull, pelt, tail leather, certain bones, but neglected to tell how tough it was to skin "thanks buddy" . If I get another me and beaver will come over to visit you Dennis. Could anyone give an apprenticeship to a wanna be beaver skinner? I would gratefully appreciate any tips on beaver skinn`in any ole skinner would share. I didn`t get the beaver myself a friend gave it to me. I haven`t learned trapping skills yet. Dennis, honestly, honestly, when you see the fur, honestly, I didn`t use a chain saw, just one of your knives. My opinion, beaver skinn`in ole mountainmen were a tough lot. Probably didn`t take no shit from no beaver, either. John (BIG JOHN) Hunt Longhunter Mountainman southwest Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 12:17:55 -0600 From: Mike Rock Subject: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #262 some women in the WI_ILL area had a 'ladies doins' over the last several years. Real good people! Try to contact Lorraine Searl at 309-792-5452. And buy some beads. She and Mike are great dealers and Mike and Leroy are Artists with the capital A. Is the top lady of the Eenas called the Hi-Eena?? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 10:44:21 -0800 From: Laurel huber Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Canadian Cap & rabiit fur The Ojibway tribes of the Great Lakes area also used rabbit skin blankets as a regular item. They has access to other hides and skins but used the rather useless and abundant rabbit furs inside their lodges. It's true that rabbit will not take much abuse but its availability and cheapness made its use for temporary wadding and warmth widespread among the Canadian/Minnesotan tribes. Rabbit skin was also used to wad shot in smoothbores, to line cradleboards, care for women's monthly needs and to line the moccasins of young children. Although I have not come across any mention of adults regularly lining their moccasins with rabbit, I imagine it would be done if it was all that was available on the trail. Larry "Shoots-the-Prairie" Huber Joe Brandl wrote: > Some natives may have used rabbit for linings, but I find it hard to > believe that given almost any other type of fur or hide, that rabbit would > of been used much. Wild rabbit skin are paper thin, the fur mats easily, > thus loses insulation quality, take a lot of rabbits for a blanket. > Exception were the southwestern tribes that wove blankets with rabbit > skins. > Joe > > Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery > Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440 > Write for custom tanning prices > We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather and > hair on robes > Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, baskets > check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:37:20 -0800 From: Laurel huber Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions I am back on the list after a long absence. I'm happy to see the familiar names of many of my brothers at the bottom of thoughtful discussions and debates. I mark the names of those I do not know but because of their insight and information, I plan on making their acquaintance when our paths cross down the trail. Your commitment to this era and your practical experiences make this site the valuable tool it is. I enjoy, also, the occasional jibe or joke that occurs whenever old friends meet to exchange views. I am guilty of picking up the phone and reading one right off the list to a brother who is not technologically enhanced. But I think that the frequent and reoccurring one-liners that go back and forth between the same people tends to clutter the list with "in-jokes" and witticisms that we all can't appreciate. I have collected the addresses of several brothers off this list for the purpose of contacting them about incidents and information that would be nothing but "yadda-yadda-yadda" to others who subscribe to this list. I do this out of respect for the work Dean has done in building up the validity of this site as a serious tool of research that sets it apart from the other Rendezvous chat lists out there. I recommend this course to those others who agree with this philosophy. Happy to be back. Larry "Shoots-the-Prairie" Huber AMM # 1517 larry pendleton wrote: > Lanney I agree. No doubt I am more guilty than most. If I have offended > anyone I appologize. I am afraid it is just my nature to B.S. A very dear > friend of ours has the philosophy that, 'You ain't gonna get out of this > life alive so you might as well have some fun while your'e here." I figure > if we can have some fun and learn as much about history as is possible on > this list, then we are accomplishing some thing on both points. I will try > to keep a lid on the B.S. as much as I can in an effort to keep from > bothering the folks who don't believe that you can do both. > There are postings on the list everyday that I am not interested in. Like > you I know what the delete button is for. > Pendleton > > ---------- > > From: Ratcliff > > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions > > Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 9:06 PM > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Frank > > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > > Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 8:52 PM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions > > > > > > >Thank you! > > >I couldn't have said it better or with more grace and I _totally_ agree. > > > > > >Medicine Bear > > > > > >Joe Brandl wrote: > > > This has developed into a close knit > > >> group because of subject matter. > > > > What Joe said is essentially correct. However, I think that much of the > close knit nature of this list is based more on friendships than subject > matter. And friends overlook the slight imperfections in their friends. I > don't seem much harm if a few people use the list in the manner described. > I am sincerely sorry if anybody's sensibilities are tweaked by this, but > when I see posts from people who generally bore me I stroke the "delete" > command and forget it. > > Not trying to stir up any crap, just giving my opinion. > > Lanney Ratcliff > > >> > > >> Absaroka Western Designs and Tannery > > >> Call us about our professional home tanning kit-307-455-2440 > > >> Write for custom tanning prices > > >> We produce rawhide lampshades and carry a large selection of leather > and > > >> hair on robes > > >> Fine lodgepole furniture, pillows, Indian reproductions, paintings, > baskets > > >> check out our new web site: http://www.onpages.com/absaroka > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:52:07 -0600 From: kestrel@ticon.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Discussions ><> >MB, >Unfortunately, someone DID suggest this fact to me in a private >post. And being one of the occasional "chatters", I thought about >it for awhile and decided to post my response. There are those out >there that do not, under ANY circumstances want anything except the >"technically dry, impersonal, humorless list", that I mentioned >before. There are a couple on every list. Fortunately, they are far >and few in between. That is why I wrote what I did, and I stand by >it. D Sticking to the dry clinical way of discussion and research will put most to sleep. I agree with Dennis and I didn't think that there was any problem with the discussions going on. If your not interrested in it skip it,use the delete key. Jeff Powers,A mind like a steel trap:Rusty and illegal in 37 states! If a tin whistle is made out of tin,what is a fog horn made out of? Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Test Drive ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 17:16:39 -0600 From: kestrel@ticon.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: mike rock Hey Mike, Are you from the Mount Horeb-Dodgeville area? >some women in the WI_ILL area had a 'ladies doins' over the last >several years. Real good people! Try to contact Lorraine Searl at >309-792-5452. And buy some beads. She and Mike are great dealers >and Mike and Leroy are Artists with the capital A. >Is the top lady of the Eenas called the Hi-Eena?? Jeff Powers,A mind like a steel trap:Rusty and illegal in 37 states! ARE YOU READY?.......TO MEET THE KING? Net-Tamer V 1.08.1 - Test Drive ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:51:44 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Pickert Subject: MtMan-List: Fwd: skinnin beavor - --0-1632621729-921973904=:17519 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline note: forwarded msg attached. == Rick(Walks in the Night)Pickert _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - --0-1632621729-921973904=:17519 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from [147.198.112.59] by send204.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:24:19 PST Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:24:19 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Pickert Subject: skinnin beavor To: mtn man MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 822 John: I agree that the mtn men were sure some. I am sure most all beavor were skinned right where the were caught and not taken back to camp whole.Try to carry a couple of whole beavor your shootin stick and all! as for tips I have skinned quite a few and the way that I like to do it is by putting them on a table about 3' high and I tie a rope to the tail and hook it to a beam I have infron of the table. I have an old school table with a nice smooth top and the beavor can easily be moved around on it. It still is quite a process. I rough skin mine and then finish on a beam, although I have seen people clean skin and that works fine too. Hope you have many more to do> Rick _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - --0-1632621729-921973904=:17519-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 15:54:29 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Pickert Subject: MtMan-List: Fwd: skinnin beavor - --0-2084420925-921974069=:17683 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline note: forwarded msg attached. == Rick(Walks in the Night)Pickert _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - --0-2084420925-921974069=:17683 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from [147.198.112.59] by send204.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:24:19 PST Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 11:24:19 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Pickert Subject: skinnin beavor To: mtn man MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 822 John: I agree that the mtn men were sure some. I am sure most all beavor were skinned right where the were caught and not taken back to camp whole.Try to carry a couple of whole beavor your shootin stick and all! as for tips I have skinned quite a few and the way that I like to do it is by putting them on a table about 3' high and I tie a rope to the tail and hook it to a beam I have infron of the table. I have an old school table with a nice smooth top and the beavor can easily be moved around on it. It still is quite a process. I rough skin mine and then finish on a beam, although I have seen people clean skin and that works fine too. Hope you have many more to do> Rick _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com - --0-2084420925-921974069=:17683-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 22:22:34 -0600 From: John Dearing Subject: MtMan-List: Re:wabbit fur > > > > >The blankets were strips of fine rabbit woven like you would make an old blanket. > >There are warp and weft. Mostly popular with the Southwest Indians. I have made 4 > >of these and they are very comfortable and warm. Also very durable compared to just > >sewing large pieces of rabbit fur together. These rabbit skin robes were also popular in the Northeast...anywhere it got cold, as a matter of fact. I understand that skins taken in the middle of the winter won't shed nearly as bad as those taken in late winter, or so I'm told. I'm also told that rabbit robes are too warm to use above 20 degrees F. Any truth to this? Also, how many skins are needed to make a three point size robe, and do you make them for sale? Thanks J.D. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:32:55 EST From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: lube snail mail address is attached--- "HAWK" Michael pierce 854 Glenfield Dr. Palm Harbor Florida 34684 E-mail: Hawknest4@Juno.com On Sat, 20 Mar 1999 00:31:29 -0500 "Fred A. Miller" writes: >hawknest4@juno.com wrote: >> >> fred you didn't give any details except that you had worked for two >years >> on it--what is it's base and what makes it so good and easy to load >and >> shoot with---send more info and what do you get for a sample of >> it---always looking for a better mouse trap---"my grizzley snot" or >"ol >> grizz" is very similar to the old black solve that was sold back in >the >> 60's except that I use burning silica--a disbursing agent for >systems to >> keep oils and other liquids from frothing when areated--it also >uses all >> bio-degradable stuff so that there is no residue in the barrel---I >add >> some alcahol so that it wont freeze in the winter. >> >> what makes your lube so good and wonderful--I dont put anything in >the >> barrel of my gun that I dont know what it is and what it will >do---will >> be glad to send you a sample of mine for a sample of yours--- > >Mike, send me your smail-mail address and we'll send off a >sample....don't need >your's, thanks. A number of folks would like to know what's in it. > ALL >ingredients were available in the 1700's, and nothing in it will harm >a firearm. > >Fred > >-- >"Slicker 'n Willie Lube".......and that's doin some! >http://www.cap-n-ball.com/thunder/ > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:32:54 EST From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man you guys that provided input to the 2 hr show on the history channel did good--only cought a couple of places that I knew wasn't correct but the presentation and the total overall was outstanding---those of you that helped with input slap yourselves on the back and congratulate yourselves---lots of beautiful pictures of the mountains---makes my feet want to wander back "to the shinning times". their period rifles were not quite right but some were--good to see the briger hawkins but not enough detail of it---got to hold and fondel it back in the early 50's so made me feel like i had a good thread to the storey line---didn't see enough of the trade guns wished they had done more close up's of some of the stuff they were using--i know for sure most of it was duplication one good shot of round bottom rifleing in a gun that was quite interesting--did'nt like the picture of the guy pouring powder down the barrel from his horn---but the total show was very good--- guys you did good---a real good story line and transition of thought---some good maps and talking about several of the journels of the various mountain men---especially liked the part about the yousmity (SP) valley and the pictures---some good input about women and indian brides--it would be a good additional subject for another hr special---bet some of you girls on the chat could add a lot to the costumes and other stuff --- thought i should drop a note in case some of you guys get to see it when it is reshown--- YMHOSANT =+= "HAWK" Michael pierce 854 Glenfield Dr. Palm Harbor Florida 34684 E-mail: Hawknest4@Juno.com ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:41:15 -0500 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: lube hawknest4@juno.com wrote: > > snail mail address is attached--- [snip] Noted. Fred - -- "Slicker 'n Willie Lube".......and that's doin some! http://www.cap-n-ball.com/thunder/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:00:09 -0600 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man I was not impressed with the beaver set and the ear-wax gold leathers in = addition to the things you mentioned. Overall, I thought the show was = pretty good but not as good as I would have liked, but it could have = been way worse. I taped it and will keep the tape. =20 my 2 cents worth Lanney Ratcliff - -----Original Message----- From: hawknest4@juno.com To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 10:34 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man >you guys that provided input to the 2 hr show on the history channel = did >good--only cought a couple of places that I knew wasn't correct but the >presentation and the total overall was outstanding---those of you that >helped with input slap yourselves on the back and congratulate >yourselves---lots of beautiful pictures of the mountains---makes my = feet >want to wander back "to the shinning times". > >their period rifles were not quite right but some were--good to see the >briger hawkins but not enough detail of it---got to hold and fondel it >back in the early 50's so made me feel like i had a good thread to the >storey line---didn't see enough of the trade guns wished they had done >more close up's of some of the stuff they were using--i know for sure >most of it was duplication one good shot of round bottom rifleing in a >gun that was quite interesting--did'nt like the picture of the guy >pouring powder down the barrel from his horn---but the total show was >very good--- > >guys you did good---a real good story line and transition of >thought---some good maps and talking about several of the journels of = the >various mountain men---especially liked the part about the yousmity = (SP) >valley and the pictures---some good input about women and indian >brides--it would be a good additional subject for another hr >special---bet some of you girls on the chat could add a lot to the >costumes and other stuff --- > >thought i should drop a note in case some of you guys get to see it = when >it is reshown--- > >YMHOSANT > =3D+=3D =20 >"HAWK" >Michael pierce >854 Glenfield Dr. >Palm Harbor Florida 34684 >E-mail: Hawknest4@Juno.com > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at = http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 23:16:11 -0600 From: "Beau Stiles" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man Can anyone tell me if the history channel show from tonight is going to run again. I unfortunately missed it. Thanks! Beau Stiles - -----Original Message----- From: Ratcliff To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 11:00 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man I was not impressed with the beaver set and the ear-wax gold leathers in addition to the things you mentioned. Overall, I thought the show was pretty good but not as good as I would have liked, but it could have been way worse. I taped it and will keep the tape. my 2 cents worth Lanney Ratcliff - -----Original Message----- From: hawknest4@juno.com To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, March 20, 1999 10:34 PM Subject: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man >you guys that provided input to the 2 hr show on the history channel did >good--only cought a couple of places that I knew wasn't correct but the >presentation and the total overall was outstanding---those of you that >helped with input slap yourselves on the back and congratulate >yourselves---lots of beautiful pictures of the mountains---makes my feet >want to wander back "to the shinning times". > >their period rifles were not quite right but some were--good to see the >briger hawkins but not enough detail of it---got to hold and fondel it >back in the early 50's so made me feel like i had a good thread to the >storey line---didn't see enough of the trade guns wished they had done >more close up's of some of the stuff they were using--i know for sure >most of it was duplication one good shot of round bottom rifleing in a >gun that was quite interesting--did'nt like the picture of the guy >pouring powder down the barrel from his horn---but the total show was >very good--- > >guys you did good---a real good story line and transition of >thought---some good maps and talking about several of the journels of the >various mountain men---especially liked the part about the yousmity (SP) >valley and the pictures---some good input about women and indian >brides--it would be a good additional subject for another hr >special---bet some of you girls on the chat could add a lot to the >costumes and other stuff --- > >thought i should drop a note in case some of you guys get to see it when >it is reshown--- > >YMHOSANT > =+= >"HAWK" >Michael pierce >854 Glenfield Dr. >Palm Harbor Florida 34684 >E-mail: Hawknest4@Juno.com > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 22:20:40 -0700 From: "Ron Chamberlain" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re:history channel--the mountain man >Can anyone tell me if the history channel show from tonight is going to run >again. I unfortunately missed it. Thanks! Sunday 3/21 2AM MT Kudo's to you that provided input on the show! Lonewolf http://www.historychannel.com/ontv/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 05:46:35 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Pickert Subject: MtMan-List: marquis tent can anyone tell me what time period (years) a revolutionary war marquis tent fits into? WITN _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 07:05:27 -0800 From: "JON P TOWNS" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: marquis tent > > can anyone tell me what time period (years) a revolutionary war >marquis tent fits into? >WITN > The Marquis tent goes way back to Mid evil days through the present They are still using that type of tent for special sales and weddings it takes two people or more to put it up and they are heavy and take up a lot room in the Truck to haul. But they are correct, for any time. Jon T ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 09:59:57 -0600 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: marquis tent Jon One of the most amazing things I ever saw was a one legged RDV trader = named Bob Gass put up and take down a good sized marquis tent without = assistance. Best display of stubborness I ever heard of. Lanney Ratcliff - -----Original Message----- From: JON P TOWNS To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Sunday, March 21, 1999 9:13 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: marquis tent > > > >> >> can anyone tell me what time period (years) a revolutionary war >>marquis tent fits into? >>WITN >> >The Marquis tent goes way back to Mid evil days through the present = They are >still using that type of tent for special sales and weddings it takes = two >people or more to put it up and they are heavy and take up a lot room = in the >Truck to haul. But they are correct, for any time. Jon T > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:36:44 EST From: KINJANO@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Kinjano In a message dated 3/18/99 11:24:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, barbsmth@portland.quik.com writes: << I'd be interested in any women's association, but I'm not married to a Brother, so please tell me that's not a criteria! .......... Barb....... i am not married either...... but living in sin with a guy who thinks reenacting and rendezvousing is some sort of disease!!!!! naw,,, it's not that bad, he just isn't into camping - of any kind! his idea of primitive is any hotel built before 1980! and that's just fine with me...... i wouldn't want him to go along anyway! i am very gregarious and have much more fun on my own...... so if we did start an official organization it wouldn't have any criteria like being married, much less to a certified 'skinner. Also, does your group have any ties to similar women's groups elsewhere in the country, like say, North Carolina? ..... we don't have a "group"...... it's just Karen and me throwing a weekend of fun and "education" for ladies who like living history...... kinjano (a.k.a. scary mary) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 12:54:02 EST From: KINJANO@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Kinjano In a message dated 3/20/99 10:34:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, tipis@mediaone.net writes: << I use to belong to the Hyu Eenyas in the EARLY 80's. It was a great fellowship of ladies who wanted to get together. Still have all the old news letters and keep "somewhat" in touch with the escaped leader. Have been looking for women in the southeast with the same interest and would like to get together and do some "lady" camping. The summer is too hot, but there are other times. Have been looking for a place to hold the event. Any one interested?? Linda Holley-Jax., Fla. >> Linda......... i was talking with karen (my co-hort in crime) the other night and we might startup a newsletter of sorts for women in history..... just gotta find the time..... Be sure to go check out www.7e.org we have our flyer listed there for our women's event...... maybe you could make it! even if you could fly up we would find all the camp gear you need! mary ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:04:34 EST From: KINJANO@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: marquis tent In a message dated 3/21/99 8:47:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, walksinthenight@yahoo.com writes: << can anyone tell me what time period (years) a revolutionary war marquis tent fits into? WITN >> technically the shape, size and style of a rectangular marquis type tent can be found as far back as 3 rd century in the middle east...... it was used then as a tent for ladies of the harem as well as for food/equipment/slave storage....... it (the shape, size and style) is still be used today by many armed forces around the world - only the materials, construction and color of cloth has changed........ if you are talking about a "white canvas tent with scalloped edging, internal poles with a ridge pole" typical of the F&I war, Rev War and medival reenacting, you can't much farther forward than the end of the 1800's.... they were in limited use during the war of 1812 and it tapered off even more from there......... for the best information on the marquis tent contact Tentsmiths, Peter Marques, in Conway, N.H........ he has some of the best documentation going..... don't know his phone number, but you could get it out of Smoke & Fire News, Muzzleblasts, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 13:12:09 EST From: LODGEPOLE@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Old Mines In a message dated 3/20/99 5:10:21 AM !!!First Boot!!!, rfones@papadocs.com writes: << I am looking for the dates for the rendezvous in Old Mines MO. - ------------- - ------(stuff deleted)------------ >> Rick, Teh date for Old Mines is as follows: 5/14-16/99 "La Fete a Renault" Old Mines, Missouri For more information contact: Rick & Mary Rill - Rt. 3, Box 73454; Potosi, Mo. 63664 - (573) 438-7714 or: Dick Julittee - Rt. 1, Box 1108; Cadet, Mo. 63630 - (573) 438-5350 I have recently updated my webpage @: http://members.aol.com/lodgepole/longshot.html you will find the dates for rendezvous in Mo. @: http://members.aol.com/lodgepole/rend_mo.html and the dates for rendezvous in Ill. @: http://members.aol.com/lodgepole/rend_ill.html Longshot ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #263 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. 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