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hist_text-digest       Thursday, April 15 1999       Volume 01 : Number 282




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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:41:19 -0400
From: Linda Holley <tipis@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re:OT- MtMan-List: buckskin report

Glad to here from all you out there that we ladies to not expel air in an odorous or mean sounding manner.  Did not know I "fluffed"??
But I do ruffle a lot of feathers when I get on my high horse.
Which I fall off of every so often.

Linda Holley
The men on this list are all gentlemen in leather and cloth.

Roger Lahti wrote:

> Linda Holley wrote:
>
> > Since I also have the "old editions", does that make me an old lady fart??
> > And I became "chemically" dependent on the hair many years ago.
> >
> > Linda Holley
>
> Dear Lady,
>
> It is my understanding that "Ladies of Vintage" do not "fart". I do not concider you an old lady but in any case you may on occasion
> "fluff", you don't fart. <G>I remain.....
>
> YMOS
> Capt. Lahti'

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:41:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Pickert <walksinthenight@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: buckskin report

Don't know what all this fartten has to do with history but hears a
real question.  
It is my understanding that Leis and clark carried Airguns on their
voyage. I got into a disscussion about this and was told that daisy was
the oldest airgun maker and they started in 1889? So who made the
airguns for Lewis & Clark?  
Rick

- --- sean <sean@peganet.com> wrote:
> Now I have known Linda for quite a spell, and never
> have I know her to be
> uncouth as to "fluff" in public.  She do get a might
> boistrous at times, and
> even been known to get down right crude with the
> rest of us... but never
> "fluff"...
> 
> Addison Miller
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duncan Macready <Duncanm@connected.net.nz>
> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 7:10 AM
> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: buckskin report
> 
> 
> >Rodger wrote
> >>
> >>Dear Lady,
> >>
> >>It is my understanding that "Ladies of Vintage" do
> not "fart". I do not
> >concider you an old lady but in any case you may on
> occasion
> >>"fluff", you don't fart. <G>I remain.....
> >>
> >,Sir
> > You are referring to "Botty Coughs" please use the
> correct terminology and
> >avoid euphemisms to prevent confusion amongst your
> readers<VBG>
> >>
> >YMOS
> >Cutfinger.
> >Friendships made.
> >Problems shared.
> >Campfires across the Wilderness
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 

===


      Rick(Walks in the Night)Pickert


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Date: 14 Apr 1999 18:42:14 -0700
From: <buck.conner@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: buckskin report

Yes, Lewis & Clark had an air rifle with them that wowed the local Native Americans.

Air guns were around long before this period, and I remember reading some of the best ones came from Germany, of pretty good caliber to, there was a friend of Ben Franklin's that would shoot in his garden and Jefferson mentions one in his garden book used for rodents, that would be F&I War period to Rev. War period. I would think they would be earlier than that in Europe, wasn't it at Waterloo that anyone with an air rifle or crossbow was killed on site ? These Generals didn't like silent weapons that could be pointed at them.

I'm sure someone has better information than what I remember from an article years ago in the American Rifleman. You have anything Hawk !

Buck Conner
Colorado Territory
> 
> Don't know what all this fartten has to do with history but hears a
> real question.  
> It is my understanding that Leis and clark carried Airguns on their
> voyage. I got into a disscussion about this and was told that daisy was
> the oldest airgun maker and they started in 1889? So who made the
> airguns for Lewis & Clark?  
> Rick
> 
> --- sean <sean@peganet.com> wrote:
> > Now I have known Linda for quite a spell, and never
> > have I know her to be
> > uncouth as to "fluff" in public.  She do get a might
> > boistrous at times, and
> > even been known to get down right crude with the
> > rest of us... but never
> > "fluff"...
> > 
> > Addison Miller
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Duncan Macready <Duncanm@connected.net.nz>
> > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
> > <hist_text@lists.xmission.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 7:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: buckskin report
> > 
> > 
> > >Rodger wrote
> > >>
> > >>Dear Lady,
> > >>
> > >>It is my understanding that "Ladies of Vintage" do
> > not "fart". I do not
> > >concider you an old lady but in any case you may on
> > occasion
> > >>"fluff", you don't fart. <G>I remain.....
> > >>
> > >,Sir
> > > You are referring to "Botty Coughs" please use the
> > correct terminology and
> > >avoid euphemisms to prevent confusion amongst your
> > readers<VBG>
> > >>
> > >YMOS
> > >Cutfinger.
> > >Friendships made.
> > >Problems shared.
> > >Campfires across the Wilderness
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> ===
> 
> 
>       Rick(Walks in the Night)Pickert
> 
> 
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Date: 14 Apr 1999 19:00:16 -0700
From: <turtle@uswestmail.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: fluffs?

Down home son, your talkin' the wrong end. Sorry who said that !


>     Gee, I was told that women just "powder puff."
> 
>      Sparky


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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:12:16 -0700
From: Barbara Smith <barbsmth@portland.quik.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: Frog Holler

Evenin' Capt. Lahti!

What day you pullin' into Frog?  I'm looking to hire a "gouvernail" for
Thursday morning.  I've got a heap of trade goods, some good grub,
and/or cash to part with in exchange for a trip from the dock to camp!
Hell, I'll even ride naked in the bow if it'll get me across the lake!
:-) (Couldn't resist making you blush!)

Furthermore, please do bring some sticks! I've got a set of bones, but
no sticks (he left me before he got the game finished... story of my
life!).  I definitely think we need to get a good stick game or two
going!  By the way, what was your prize?  Or were you just playing for
the glory?

Whoo Hoo, Frog's comin'!  Ribbet, ribbet, ribbet!

Hugs and Kisses,
Barbara, aka Tassee, Ticky Eena and/or Miss Letitia

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Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:28:56 -0400
From: "Fred A. Miller" <fmiller@lightlink.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: A man once..

A man once counseled his son that if he wanted to live a long life, the secret
was to sprinkle a little gunpowder on his cornflakes every morning.
  
The son did this religiously, and he lived to the age of 93. When he died, he
left 14 children, 28 grandchildren, 35 great-grandchildren, and a 15 foot hole
in the wall of the crematorium.

- -- 
"Slicker 'n Willie Lube".......and that's doin some!
http://www.cap-n-ball.com/thunder/

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:35:24 EDT
From: TrapRJoe@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-Fire wood..

Hoping to make the Rocky Mountian National Rendezvous this year as it matches 
vacation.  Was just wondering if a person need or should bring his own oak 
and hickory fire wood.  I understand hard wood is hard to come by, and 
cooking on coals works so much better when you start with hard wood.  Never 
been to that country, can anyone help?

                                              				
TrapRJoe

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:36:54 EDT
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Frog Holler

You girls need to borrow my gambeling rocks ---remember them who owns the
rocks makes the rules---and cheeters always win and winners always cheet
and if you cant cheet fair dont play---

your frog doins sounds like fun---best to you and to shining times--

"HAWK"
Michael pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor Florida  34684
E-mail:   Hawknest4@Juno.com    Phone: 1-727-771-1815

On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:12:16 -0700 Barbara Smith
<barbsmth@portland.quik.com> writes:
>Evenin' Capt. Lahti!
>
>What day you pullin' into Frog?  I'm looking to hire a "gouvernail" 
>for
>Thursday morning.  I've got a heap of trade goods, some good grub,
>and/or cash to part with in exchange for a trip from the dock to camp!
>Hell, I'll even ride naked in the bow if it'll get me across the lake!
>:-) (Couldn't resist making you blush!)
>
>Furthermore, please do bring some sticks! I've got a set of bones, but
>no sticks (he left me before he got the game finished... story of my
>life!).  I definitely think we need to get a good stick game or two
>going!  By the way, what was your prize?  Or were you just playing for
>the glory?
>
>Whoo Hoo, Frog's comin'!  Ribbet, ribbet, ribbet!
>
>Hugs and Kisses,
>Barbara, aka Tassee, Ticky Eena and/or Miss Letitia
>
>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:09:43 -0600
From: "Charlie P. Webb" <cwebbbpdr@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-Fire wood..

Howdy Joe,
Bring your hardwood if that is what you are used to, I don't disagree
with your liking the hard wood coals, but personally I get along just
fine with aspen and pine and acassionally scrub oak. At times boisedavaca
when nothing else is available,  works just fine.  (The spotted Pte
variety)
Respectfully,
C Webb

>Hoping to make the Rocky Mountian National Rendezvous this year as it
matches vacation.  Was just wondering if a person need or should bring
his own oak and hickory fire woo
>TrapRJoe
>
>

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:14:44 -0400
From: Linda Holley <tipis@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-Fire wood..

Having been to a few Colorado Westerns, bring your own oak wood.  I brought about
a quarter chord and then supplemented it with the soft words of the west to keep
my oak burning.  Traded off some nice split pieces of the oak for trade goods to
other campers.  Some of the guys had not seen good eastern white hard oak in so
long and wanted pieces to carve or make into other articles.  I always had a good
cooking fire.

And a good party fire....anyone remember the Colorado Western of 86?
Now that was party night after party night.  Lets see, we had margarita night,
scottish night, Pot luck night, Taquilla sunrise night, Lightening storm night,
formal dinner night.....did I leave out anything???? Never a dull night.

Linda Holley

TrapRJoe@aol.com wrote:

> Hoping to make the Rocky Mountian National Rendezvous this year as it matches
> vacation.  Was just wondering if a person need or should bring his own oak
> and hickory fire wood.  I understand hard wood is hard to come by, and
> cooking on coals works so much better when you start with hard wood.  Never
> been to that country, can anyone help?
>
>
> TrapRJoe

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:00:18 GMT
From: rparker7@ix.netcom.com (Roy Parker)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-Fire wood..

On Thu, 15 Apr 1999 17:14:44 -0400, you wrote:

>And a good party fire....anyone remember the Colorado Western of 86?
>Now that was party night after party night.  Lets see, we had margarita =
night,
>scottish night, Pot luck night, Taquilla sunrise night, Lightening storm=
 night,
>formal dinner night.....did I leave out anything???? Never a dull night.

Some of us Texicans are planning on comin' up.  Cuz, Frog, Dave
Johnson and myself so far. Wooden Hawk will obviously be there.  All
that partyin' you were talking about reminded me I gotta send in my
$$.  We'll be bringing a mix of hickory, pecan and mesquite to flavor
the oak....  Looking forward to it, my first one in the Rockies. =20

Gimme a hint, do I need to aim lower during the shootin' contests due
to the thin air?

>
>Linda Holley
>
>TrapRJoe@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Hoping to make the Rocky Mountian National Rendezvous this year as it =
matches
>> vacation.  Was just wondering if a person need or should bring his own=
 oak
>> and hickory fire wood.  I understand hard wood is hard to come by, and
>> cooking on coals works so much better when you start with hard wood.  =
Never
>> been to that country, can anyone help?
>>
>>
>> TrapRJoe
>
>

Roy Parker, Buckskinner, Brewer, Blacksmith, Woodworker, and Collector.  =
My job gets in the way of my hobbies.
=20

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:02:14 -0600 
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:04:59 -0500

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:42:29 -0500
From: "JOHNNY RUTLEDGE" <INSPECT@southwind.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-Fire wood..

JUST A TEST POST

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:15:14 -0500
From: "TIM ROWE" <trowe1@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:04:59 -0500

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C&D Jarnigan
PO Box 1860
Corinth, MS 38835-1860
www.avsia.com/jarnigan/jarnigan.html

Hope this helps
Tim Rowe

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:16:21 -0500
From: "Ratcliff" <rat@htcomp.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:04:59 -0500

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Thanks, Tim.  It helps.
Lanney Ratcliff
  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Thursday, April 15, 1999 9:15 PM
  Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:04:59 -0500


  C&D Jarnigan
  PO Box 1860
  Corinth, MS 38835-1860
  www.avsia.com/jarnigan/jarnigan.html

  Hope this helps
  Tim Rowe

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:34:19 -0700 (MST)
From: delis@aztec.asu.edu (BRUCE S. DE LIS)
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:04:59 -0500

 C & D Jarnigan Company		Post Office Box 	Corinth	Mississippi	38835-1860	(662) 2
87-4977	(662) 287-6033	www.jarnaginco.com	cjarnag@tsixroads.com	Pre-1800 Clothing



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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:56:28 EDT
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List:air guns

On 14 Apr 1999 18:42:14 -0700 <buck.conner@uswestmail.net> writes:
>Yes, Lewis & Clark had an air rifle with them that wowed the local 
>Native Americans.
>
>Air guns were around long before this period, and I remember reading 
>some of the best ones came from Germany,

air guns have been around since the late 1700 and were invented in
germany if my memory serves me well.  cant find my book on them so will
have to quote info from memory---  looked thru some of my books but didnt
find what i wanted---louis and clark took a air gun on their trip and to
a pump up this airgun ---  it wad pumped up with a lever and the butt
stock was the air chamber---if you go to smithsonian there is one of the
same models as louis and clark took with them if i am not wrong it is
dated 1780  or around that time period---it was by a german maker and
shot lead bb's size shot but they made them that went up to about 60 gage
or around 30 something caliber if i am not mistaken-.

american rifleman did a article on the airguns and dated them and all
several years ago---so if you do some digging you will find out about
them the one that they discuss is the one in smithsonian.  I believe the
davis museum in clarimore okla had one also that is very early but later
than the louis and clark gun---very interesting piece and made later than
the one in smithsonian---

best date i can put on them off my head is about 1780.  plus or minus 10
years. all the early air guns were made in germany and i know of only 2
makers and if i remember correctly they lived quite close to each other
in their villages so it leads me to thank that they probly were either
kin to each other or had a friendly match going with each other---they
were highly accurate up to about 50 yds most were smooth bore and the
shot or ball dia was almost bore dia and was drop shot ---I usto own a
gameing rifle that shot bb's but it was powered by a precussion cap---I
would patch the lead bb's with paper towels and could shoot half way thru
a 1" pine board across the living roon---got into a lot of trouble with
it with the better half---it was stolen when i got broken into---it was
made by the german maker with the same name as the air rifles in
smithsonian---I thank they made a lot of these type of guns---called them
saloon guns for the guys in the bars to use to test their marksmanship
skills---

bout all I can remember --best advice is go to the nra and look thru
their back issues and you will find the smithsonian gun which is the same
as the louis and clark gun---


"HAWK"
Michael pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor Florida  34684
E-mail:   Hawknest4@Juno.com    Phone: 1-727-771-1815

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:56:30 EDT
From: hawknest4@juno.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Re: MtMan-Fire wood..

linda need to test the over the log drink---???????? best to you 
"HAWK"
Michael pierce
854 Glenfield Dr.
Palm Harbor Florida  34684
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:20:24 -0500
From: "Brian McNutt" <b_cory_mcnutt@email.msn.com>
Subject: MtMan-List: First Rendezvous

Hello the list!
Just wanted to drop a short note on my first rendezvous at Comanche Peak.
That was the best time I've had in ages, and met nothing but good people. I
want to thank Lodgepole, Shirt, and 5 Squaws for showing me the ropes.
I am horrible with names, but I did meet a lister from Midland who is a
trekker, and would like to get in touch with him.
BTW, does anyone have a good recipe for "apple pie"????

Brian

"Muzzle Loaders Have a Lot of Balls"

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:13:02 EDT
From: Cherokeoil@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: hats

I`m a greenhorn myself and was wanting to know if anyone can tell me where i 
can get a Jim Brigders hat about 25 in. around. I`m looking forward to trying 
to get into the rendezvous this year. 

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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:25:09 EDT
From: RR1LA@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hats

Cherokeoil: Here's what may prove to be some useful links in your search: 
<A HREF="http://www.jastown.com/">Jas. Townsend & Son, Inc. Home Page</A>  
<A HREF="http://www.clearwaterhats.com/">ClearWater Hats</A>  
<A HREF="http://users.aol.com/canaltwo/sutlers.htm">Sutlers LIst</A> 

YHS   Barney Fife

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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:45:14 -0700
From: Frank <Buckskinner@gbis.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hats

Yup...http://www.clearwaterhats.com/
Best hats you can buy!

Medicine Bear

Cherokeoil@aol.com wrote:

> I`m a greenhorn myself and was wanting to know if anyone can tell me where i
> can get a Jim Brigders hat about 25 in. around. I`m looking forward to trying
> to get into the rendezvous this year.

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