From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #321 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Monday, July 5 1999 Volume 01 : Number 321 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 10:35:20 -0400 (EDT) From: mountainman333@webtv.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Joining the AMM-get the journal Speaking of the AMM could some one let me know the URL to there web site I seem to have lost it , Im starting a web page and want to add it to my links Thanx in advance. Mike S. http://community.webtv.net/mountainman333/TheBuckskinnersCabin ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 1999 08:27:19 -0700 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Joining the AMM-get the journal Go to my web site for several links you maybe interested in, including the AMM and others. http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ Buck Conner On Sat, 03 July 1999, mountainman333@webtv.net wrote: > > Speaking of the AMM could some one let me know the URL to there web site > I seem to have lost it , Im starting a web page and want to add it to > my links Thanx in advance. Mike S. > > > http://community.webtv.net/mountainman333/TheBuckskinnersCabin Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: 3 Jul 1999 08:28:23 -0700 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Joining the AMM-get the journal Go to my web site for several links you maybe interested in, including the AMM and others. http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ Buck Conner On Sat, 03 July 1999, mountainman333@webtv.net wrote: > > Speaking of the AMM could some one let me know the URL to there web site > I seem to have lost it , Im starting a web page and want to add it to > my links Thanx in advance. Mike S. > > > http://community.webtv.net/mountainman333/TheBuckskinnersCabin Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 11:38:47 -0500 From: dammiller@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: MtMan-List - Joining the AMM Mythocal???? Hmmmmmmmm........ Then I just spent that last few days up in the Tetons with GHOSTS..... Even sat with a founding member (had a mythocal picture taken with him)...... But I'm glad that I have been set straight on this issue........wouldn't want to be associated with hoodoo's...... AND I'm not a member......YET........ just was invited to partake of the festivities and all.......boy them ghosts do know how to party!!!!! Dave ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 12:45:18 -0700 From: Barbara Smith Subject: MtMan-List: Any Alabama Brothers out there? Dear Sirs, Are there any Brothers here from Alabama? I'd like to hook my dad up with some guys in his area. Mainly, I'd like to tell him about any rendezvous or living history events that he could attend as a flatlander. He's a modern muzzleloader, but has gotten interested in "going primitive" since I've started doing it. He's attended one event at Fort Toulouse, but they wouldn't let him watch the shooting competition since he didn't have period attire. ($%#$@ NMLRA!) I'm making him an outfit so that won't happen again. He's in Mobile, but it's nothing to him to travel to Louisiana or Florida or Georgia. Any info you could provide I would be very grateful for. Your Most Humble Servant, Tassee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:33:18 EDT From: RR1LA@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Any Alabama Brothers out there? Tassee (and other interested parties) here are some events in the AL,LA,FL and GA areas, culled from Smoke and Fire News and The Territorial Dispatch: ALABAMA: OCT 1-3 - 6th Annual Colonial Isle Dauphine, Dauphine Island Fort Gaines Historical Site 334/861-6992 NOVEMBER 3-7 - Alabama Frontier Days Fort Toulouse/Jackson Park, Wetumpka, AL, contact Fort Toulouse Foundation, 2521 W. Fort Toulouse Road Wetumpka, AL 36093 FLORIDA: JUNE 18-20 Spanish Night Watch, St. Augustine, Jon Williams 904/797-7217 or Rick or Lee 904/794-7682 GEORGIA: OCTOBER 15-17 - 10th Annual Rendezvous & Fun Shoot, Lexington, GA Sponsored by Beaver Swap Primitives, NO OTHER INFO LISTED SOUNDS LIKE LOTS OF ACTIVITIES FOR EVERYBODY. pan throw, shooting, potluck dinners, wood provided, ice avail. tobacco spitting, etc. contact Smoke & Fire News, maybe they have correct contact info Hope this helps, Barney Fife ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 21:31:43 -0400 (EDT) From: mountainman333@webtv.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Joining the AMM-get the journal Thanx, Buck I ll do just that!!! P.S. I always enjoy the list guys!!! Mike S. http://community.webtv.net/mountainman333/TheBuckskinnersCabin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:06:53 EDT From: RR1LA@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Any Alabama Brothers out there? Tassee, Forgot to include this info in the previous post: there are also lots of events in the TN, MO, AR and NM areas. If you think your dad might be interested, let me know off-list and I'll get the info to you. Also, he might be interested in a rag like the Smoke & Fire News. Info on their stuff is available online at The Smoke & Fire Co. Not only a good newspaper, but also good plunder available from them. yhs, Barney Fife ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 11:21:30 -0600 From: agottfre@telusplanet.net (Angela Gottfred) Subject: MtMan-List: Happy Birthday Happy 223rd birthday, Cousin Jonathan! - --Janey Canuck (who just turned 132 a few days ago) agottfre@telusplanet.net ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jul 1999 12:37:43 -0700 From: Subject: MtMan-List: AMM Tomahawk & Long Rifle journal List readers, Have talked to Bill Cunningham (editor of Tomahawk & Long Rifle) and I stand corrected on number of journals published each year, with additional subscriptions of interested parties we may get to be a bi-monthly publication in time. But for now you will receive quarterly issues - Feb, May, Aug, Nov,. Later Buck Conner Jim Baker Party/Colorado Territory ________________________________________________________ Get a subscription to a journal of the fur trade and early history of the times, the one the American Mountain Men read and write: The Tomahawk & Long Rifle 3483 Squires Conklin, MI 49403 ATTN: Jon Link The subscription for the journal is $20 for a year or $35 for two years. Give it a try, you'll blow that much in a couple of stops at 7-11 for junk food. ________________________________________________________ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:07:36 -0700 From: "Pat Laughlin" Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: Happy 4th. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01BEC61E.2FEF8F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - -----Original Message----- From: Pat Laughlin To: Date: Sunday, July 04, 1999 12:44 PM Subject: Happy 4th. Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward. Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't just fight the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government! Some of us take these liberties so much for granted...We shouldn't. So, take a couple of minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid . . . LET'S ALL REMEMBER THAT FREEDOM IS "NEVER FREE"!!!! Author unknown. - ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01BEC61E.2FEF8F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Pat Laughlin <pat1@pe.net>
To:=20 <Tom Laughlin <pat1@pe.net>
Date: Sunday, = July 04,=20 1999 12:44 PM
Subject: Happy 4th.

Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed=20 the
Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by = the=20 British as traitors, and tortured
before they died.  Twelve had = their=20 homes ransacked and burned.  Two
lost their sons serving in the=20 Revolutionary Army, another had two
sons captured.

Nine of the = 56=20 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the
Revolutionary=20 War.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, = and=20 their
sacred honor.  What kind of men were = they?

Twenty-four were=20 lawyers and jurists.  Eleven were merchants, nine
were farmers = and large=20 plantation owners; men of means, well
educated.

But they = signed the=20 Declaration of Independence knowing full well
that the penalty would = be death=20 if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy = planter and=20 trader, saw his
ships swept from the seas by the British Navy.  = He sold=20 his home and
properties to pay his debts, and died in = rags.

Thomas=20 McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to
move his = family=20 almost constantly.  He served in the Congress without
pay, and = his=20 family was kept in hiding.  His possessions were taken
from him, = and=20 poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties = of=20 Dillery, Hall, Clymer,
Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and=20 Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted = that the=20 British
General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for=20 his
headquarters.  He quietly urged General George Washington to = open
fire.  The home was destroyed, and Nelson died=20 bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties = destroyed.  The=20 enemy
jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

John = Hart was=20 driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their
13 children = fled for=20 their lives.  His fields and his gristmill were
laid to waste. = For more=20 than a year he lived in forests and caves,
returning home to find his = wife=20 dead and his children vanished.  A
few weeks later he died from=20 exhaustion and a broken heart.

Norris and Livingston suffered = similar=20 fates.

Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American=20 Revolution.

These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. = They=20 were
soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but=20 they
valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering,=20 they
pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm = reliance=20 on
the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to=20 each
other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred = honor."

They=20 gave you and me a free and independent America.  The = history
books never=20 told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary War.
We didn't = just=20 fight the British. We were British subjects at that
time and we = fought our=20 own government!

Some of us take these liberties so much for = granted...We=20 shouldn't.

So, take a couple of minutes while enjoying your 4th = of July=20 holiday
and silently thank these patriots.  It's not much to ask = for=20 the
price they paid . . .

LET'S ALL REMEMBER THAT FREEDOM IS=20 "NEVER FREE"!!!!

Author = unknown.
- ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01BEC61E.2FEF8F20-- ------------------------------ Date: 04 Jul 99 18:48:10 -0600 From: Phyllis and Don Keas Subject: MtMan-List: FWD: Fw: send this on DON AND PHYLLIS KEAS ---LIving History Consultants - -------------------------------------- Date: 7/4/99 11:43 AM From: Jan and Bill < This individual is trying to get one million hits on his web page > > > within 100 days. He is then going to send the address to some > > > legislators to show there are people interested in continuing to > own > > > guns. Just go to his web site to show a hit. > > > > > > http://home.talkcity.com/ArenaBlvd/mar_1/fight_4_2_amnd_rites.html > >> > > Jan and Bill > = > = RFC822 header - ----------------------------------- Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.32] by mail.market1.com = with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id ABB37120208; Sun, 04 Jul 1999 12:45:07 -0600 Received: from oemcomputer (dal-qbu-zok-vty38.as.wcom.net [216.192.243.38]= ) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA20828; Sun, 4 Jul 1999 14:45:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907041845.OAA20828@smtp2.mindspring.com> From: "Jan and Bill" To: "Dave VanderKratts" , "Don & Phyllis Keas" , "Gary Hertzog" , "Jeremy Kline" , "John Eastwood" , "Larry Erpenbach" , "Phil & Connie LaLena" Subject: Fw: send this on Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:43:39 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-RCPT-TO: X-UIDL: 431 Status: U = ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:12:01 -0600 From: "Ron" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Joining the AMM-get the journal http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/amm/index.html - -----Original Message----- From: mountainman333@webtv.net To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Saturday, July 03, 1999 8:35 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Joining the AMM-get the journal Speaking of the AMM could some one let me know the URL to there web site I seem to have lost it , Im starting a web page and want to add it to my links Thanx in advance. Mike S. http://community.webtv.net/mountainman333/TheBuckskinnersCabin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 21:28:41 -0400 (EDT) From: mountainman333@webtv.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Joining the AMM-get the journal Thanx Ron, I appreciate the reply !!!!!!! Mike S. http://community.webtv.net/mountainman333/TheBuckskinnersCabin ------------------------------ Date: 5 Jul 1999 10:43:38 -0700 From: Subject: MtMan-List: Answers to: The AMM Journal & Joining Thanks to Buck & John - they have given interested parties the resource and general information on the AMM. Turtle. ______________________________________________________________ Get a subscription to a journal of the fur trade and early history of the times, the one the American Mountain Men read and write: The Tomahawk & Long Rifle 3483 Squires Conklin, MI 49403 ATTN: Jon Link The subscription for the journal is $20 for a year or $35 for two years. You will receive quarterly issues - Feb, May, Aug, Nov. Give it a try, you'll blow that much in a couple of stops at 7-11 for junk food. Later Buck Conner AMM - Jim Baker Party/Colorado Territory ______________________________________________________________ AMM has something over 500 members at present, it began with 5 good men. We are approaching 2000 member numbers issued over the years. The only way to join is to be sponsored by a party, two bosslopers or one hiveranno. We take sponsorship very seriously, as we are first a brotherhood. Until we've been on the ground with a prospect in all seasons, it seldom happens. We are each personally responsible to all the other brothers for the people we sponsor. There was a time when most anyone could join by asking and that brought a few problems. Now sponsorship is the only way to join, it is not problem free. Sometimes it's difficult to make location & schedules coincide to where you become well enough acquainted with one or more of us to be invited to join. In some areas there are very active parties and joining up through one of them isn't as difficult as happening to know a member and becoming close enough for them to know you well enough to offer membership, and when necessary find you a second sponsor. The best way that can happen is to spend time together on the trail. Dean Rudy tries to find someone close by to contact when someone requests information about joining. Sometimes that works out and sometimes it doesn't. It is a group of individualists some of whom are pretty set in their ways. Some winter alone very nicely. To give you an idea of how we're spread out; there is an active party about 250 miles East of me, there is one other member within 100 miles North, and one more another 100 miles on up the road. Its 300 miles South and 500 miles West to find more. I don't get to see any of them often. Joining is often not something easily planned, those who belong find their way to us sooner or later. John Kramer If it ain't exactly right, it's wrong. john Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #321 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. Do not use quotes in your message.