From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #336 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, July 28 1999 Volume 01 : Number 336 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:20:07 -0400 From: ad.miller@mindspring.com Subject: MtMan-List: Interesting gun control statistics (not period topic) Here are some interesting statistics taht were forwarded to me.... Kinda makes you stop and think a bit... Addison Miller >Congress has been under the gun lately, no pun intended, The President >in his efforts to distort the truth has blasted Republicans and the 50 >Democrats who shot down his anti gun legislation. Let me give you a few >reasons why we don't need gun control. Here is documented proof of what >happens after gun control > >Soviet Union establishes gun control in 1929 >from 1929-1953 20 million political dissidents unable to defend >themselves are rounded up and exterminated. > >Turkey establishes gun control in 1911 from 1915 to 1917 1.5 million >Armenians, unable to defend themselves are rounded up and exterminated > >Germany establishes gun control in 1938 from 1939 til 1945 13 million >Jews, gypsies,homosexuals, mentally ill people and other mongrelized >folks are rounded up and exterminated > >China establishes gun control in 1935 from 1948-1952 20 million >political dissidents unable to defend themselves are rounded up and >exterminated > >Guatemala establishes gun control in 1964 from 64-1981 100,00 Mayan >Indians unable to defend themselves are rounded up and exterminated. > >Uganda establishes gun control in 1970 from 1971-1979 300,00 >Christians unable to defend themselves are rounded up and exterminated. > >Cambodia establishes gun control in 1956 from 1975-1977 one million >educated people, unable to defend themselves are rounded up and >exterminated. > >Need I say more ? That's how I see it !! > > > > > >----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- >Sender: teddwebb@pop.mindspring.com >Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (smtp2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.32]) > by hil-img-6.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.19) with ESMTP id >VAA20346; > Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:10:39 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from pop.mindspring.com (user-37kaa7b.dialup.mindspring.com >[207.69.40.235]) > by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA32088; > Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:10:09 -0400 (EDT) >Message-ID: <377033CC.EDC50276@pop.mindspring.com> >Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:09:33 -0400 >From: Tedd Webb >Reply-To: teddwebb@mindspring.com >Organization: Innovative Marketing of America, Inc. >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) >X-Accept-Language: en >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: teddwebb@mindspring.com >Subject: Webb's World 6/23/99 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; >x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >-------------------- End Forwarded Message -------------------- > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:32:34 +0000 From: Laura Rugel Glise Subject: MtMan-List: Mountain Women 10:00 p.m. Tuesday EST I found a new book, A Rendezvous Reader: Tall, Tangled, and True Tales of the Mountain Men 1805-1850 edited by James H. Maguire, et al. In "Marriage and Settlement Patterns of Rocky Mountain Trappers and Traders," William R. Swagerty discusses his statistical anaylsis of the information in LeRoy Hafen's series "The Mountain Men and the Fur Trade of the Far West." Studying not only the 292 biographical essays collected in the Hafen series but also twenty additional biographies, Swagerty found that most trappers had only one wife (1.45 average). By 1834 first marriage had taken place for the majority. Of 312 cases, 182, 58.3 percent, never married again. Some of these marriages occurred before the husband headed west. However, 106, or 38.9 percent, of 272 first marriages were with Indian women. Twenty men married mixed bloods, while forty-four (16.1 percent) wedded Anglo- Americans. Many French-American marriages (9.2 percent) were consummated before the men involved left the St. Louis area; however, only six of the forty-two known Canadians married other Canadians. Fifty-two trappers who frequented Santa Fe married Spanish-American women there or in Taos (19.1 percent of all first marriages and 67.7 percent of all who would eventually settle in the Taos region), while of those who went on to California, only one-half married daughters of Californios. This is a very enjoyable book. It has readable accounts by and about mountain men. Laura Glise ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:44:06 -0500 From: Mike Rock Subject: MtMan-List: (no subject) re:long lines chickenhawk If you are using netscape, check 'view', then down near the bottom, hit 'wrap long lines' and save it. This will let you read without strain. rock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:41:36 -0400 (EDT) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI) Subject: MtMan-List: Indian Sign Language Tape Be there a phone # one can call to order it? (specifically, the new higher quality tape mentioned by larry pendleton). BTW: about 12 years ago saw two Natives from Walpole Island (Chippewa, Ottawa, and Potawatomi located in Ontario Canada off Lake St.Clair) talk sign - very interesting. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:35:03 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BED880.44BB6D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ratcliff=20 To: AMM ; History List=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 10:28 PM Subject: AMM-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject I just witnesed an awesome sight. The Space Shuttle passed from west to = east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night landing...probably = right about now. That puppy was moving faster than you would believe, = glowing orange and leaving a white contrail from horizon to horizon, a = sight made even more fantastic by the clear sky and full moon. I have = rarely seen anything that made my hair stand on end, but folks, that = did. Godspeed to the crew and thanks for the show.....something I won't = soon forget. Lanney Ratcliff - ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BED880.44BB6D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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I just witnesed an awesome sight.  The Space Shuttle passed = from west=20 to east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night = landing...probably right=20 about now.  That puppy was moving faster than you would believe, = glowing=20 orange and leaving a white contrail from horizon to horizon, a sight = made even=20 more fantastic by the clear sky and full moon.   I have rarely = seen=20 anything that made my hair stand on end, but folks, that did.  = Godspeed to=20 the crew and thanks for the show.....something I won't soon = forget.
Lanney Ratcliff
- ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01BED880.44BB6D60-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:28:07 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: MtMan-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BED87F.4D00D920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just witnesed an awesome sight. The Space Shuttle passed from west to = east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night landing...probably = right about now. That puppy was moving faster than you would believe, = glowing orange and leaving a white contrail from horizon to horizon, a = sight made even more fantastic by the clear sky and full moon. I have = rarely seen anything that made my hair stand on end, but folks, that = did. Godspeed to the crew and thanks for the show.....something I won't = soon forget. Lanney Ratcliff - ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BED87F.4D00D920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just witnesed an awesome sight.  The Space Shuttle passed = from west=20 to east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night = landing...probably right=20 about now.  That puppy was moving faster than you would believe, = glowing=20 orange and leaving a white contrail from horizon to horizon, a sight = made even=20 more fantastic by the clear sky and full moon.   I have rarely = seen=20 anything that made my hair stand on end, but folks, that did.  = Godspeed to=20 the crew and thanks for the show.....something I won't soon = forget.
Lanney Ratcliff
- ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01BED87F.4D00D920-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:38:49 GMT From: rparker7@ix.netcom.com (Roy Parker) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject A few years back while at rendzvous at Groce's Plantation, the whole camp was treated to the spectacle of the (first) Russian Space Station breaking up when it hit the atmosphere. A truly monumental sight also. Probably the first time most of us had a kindly thought for the USSR (Cold War, don't ya know back then). Kinda neat watching billions and billions of rubles burning up. On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:28:07 -0500, you wrote: >I just witnesed an awesome sight. The Space Shuttle passed from west to= east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night landing...probably = right about now. That puppy was moving faster than you would believe, = glowing orange and leaving a white contrail from horizon to horizon, a = sight made even more fantastic by the clear sky and full moon. I have = rarely seen anything that made my hair stand on end, but folks, that did.= Godspeed to the crew and thanks for the show.....something I won't soon= forget. >Lanney Ratcliff Roy Parker We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks = to the internet, we know this is not true. =20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:14:35 -0400 From: Linda Holley Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject - --------------FAA58C10D0224DD64EB6CB82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am in Fla. And I missed it. Darnit. Linda Holley Ratcliff wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ratcliff > To: AMM ; History ListSent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 10:28 PMSubject: > AMM-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject > I just witnesed an awesome sight. The Space Shuttle passed from west > to east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night > landing...probably right about now. That puppy was moving faster than > you would believe, glowing orange and leaving a white contrail from > horizon to horizon, a sight made even more fantastic by the clear sky > and full moon. I have rarely seen anything that made my hair stand > on end, but folks, that did. Godspeed to the crew and thanks for the > show.....something I won't soon forget.Lanney Ratcliff - --------------FAA58C10D0224DD64EB6CB82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am in Fla.  And I missed it.  Darnit.

Linda Holley

Ratcliff wrote:

 
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 I just witnesed an awesome sight.  The Space Shuttle passed from west to east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night landing...probably right about now.  That puppy was moving faster than you would believe, glowing orange and leaving a white contrail from horizon to horizon, a sight made even more fantastic by the clear sky and full moon.   I have rarely seen anything that made my hair stand on end, but folks, that did.  Godspeed to the crew and thanks for the show.....something I won't soon forget.Lanney Ratcliff
- --------------FAA58C10D0224DD64EB6CB82-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:13:01 -0700 From: Frank Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject - --------------D4687F3601BE3F6393E56E5E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whatcha drinkin' Lanney? Got any more? Just kiddin'...no really, whatcha drinkin'? Medicine Bear Ratcliff wrote: > I just witnesed an awesome sight. The Space Shuttle passed from west > to east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night > landing...probably right about now. That puppy was moving faster than > you would believe, glowing orange and leaving a white contrail from > horizon to horizon, a sight made even more fantastic by the clear sky > and full moon. I have rarely seen anything that made my hair stand > on end, but folks, that did. Godspeed to the crew and thanks for the > show.....something I won't soon forget.Lanney Ratcliff - --------------D4687F3601BE3F6393E56E5E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whatcha drinkin' Lanney?  Got any more?  <VBG>
Just kiddin'...no really, whatcha drinkin'?

Medicine Bear
 

Ratcliff wrote:

I just witnesed an awesome sight.  The Space Shuttle passed from west to east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night landing...probably right about now.  That puppy was moving faster than you would believe, glowing orange and leaving a white contrail from horizon to horizon, a sight made even more fantastic by the clear sky and full moon.   I have rarely seen anything that made my hair stand on end, but folks, that did.  Godspeed to the crew and thanks for the show.....something I won't soon forget.Lanney Ratcliff
- --------------D4687F3601BE3F6393E56E5E-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:24:29 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01BED887.2C8EE760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing but clear, cold spring water. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Frank=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 11:13 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject Whatcha drinkin' Lanney? Got any more? =20 Just kiddin'...no really, whatcha drinkin'?=20 Medicine Bear=20 =20 Ratcliff wrote:=20 I just witnesed an awesome sight. The Space Shuttle passed from = west to east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night = landing...probably right about now. That puppy was moving faster than = you would believe, glowing orange and leaving a white contrail from = horizon to horizon, a sight made even more fantastic by the clear sky = and full moon. I have rarely seen anything that made my hair stand on = end, but folks, that did. Godspeed to the crew and thanks for the = show.....something I won't soon forget.Lanney Ratcliff - ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01BED887.2C8EE760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nothing but clear, cold spring water.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 = 11:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Space=20 Shuttle...non period subject

Whatcha drinkin' Lanney?  Got any more?  = <VBG>=20
Just kiddin'...no really, whatcha drinkin'?=20

Medicine Bear
 =20

Ratcliff wrote:=20

I just witnesed an awesome sight.  The Space Shuttle passed = from west=20 to east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night = landing...probably=20 right about now.  That puppy was moving faster than you would = believe,=20 glowing orange and leaving a white contrail from horizon to horizon, = a sight=20 made even more fantastic by the clear sky and full moon.   = I have=20 rarely seen anything that made my hair stand on end, but folks, that = did.  Godspeed to the crew and thanks for the = show.....something I=20 won't soon forget.Lanney = Ratcliff
- ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01BED887.2C8EE760-- ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jul 1999 06:59:17 -0700 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: "Indian Sign Lanuage" video Folks, We have just received the new tapes that Larry has just mentioned of : "Indian Sign Language" with Larry Pendleton, cost is $ 24.95 plus postage, at $ 3.25 (not sure on postage yet). Will have on webe site either tonight or tomorrow night, the part no# is CSV-101 for reference. Check Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. at : http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ like mentioned information should be put in either tonight or tomorrow night, as soon as web master can get to it. Thanks Buck Conner dba/Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. > On Tue, 27 July 1999, Cherokeoil@aol.com wrote: > > I`d be interested in a copy of the tape to. You can get ahold of me off line > to. Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:18:31 -0400 From: "Nelson, Roy S" Subject: MtMan-List: tanning recipes This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BED904.10DB63A4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Could anyone help me out with some home tanning recipes for "hair on" ? I would like to make a shooting bag from a coon skin I still have in the freezer from last year. Thanks in advance. Scott - ------_=_NextPart_001_01BED904.10DB63A4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tanning recipes

  Could anyone help me out with = some home tanning recipes for "hair on" ? I would like to make a = shooting bag from a coon skin I still have in the freezer from last = year. Thanks in advance.

        =         =         =         =         =         Scott

- ------_=_NextPart_001_01BED904.10DB63A4-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:25:18 EDT From: TetonTod@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Hard Tack, Pilot Bread Brothers, Could someone please share some hard tack/pilot bread recipies? I've misplacced mine and can't remember the exact amounts. I looked in the archives but couldn't locate anything. Thanks in advance! Happy Trails Todd Glover ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jul 1999 10:48:23 -0700 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: "Indian Sign Lanuage" video Buck, Quess I missed what Larry said about "old" and "new" tapes, and price difference, which do I have coming ? Thanks Turtle. ______________________________________________ > On Wed, 28 July 1999, buck.conner@uswestmail.net wrote: > > Folks, > > We have just received the new tapes that Larry has just mentioned of : "Indian Sign Language" with Larry Pendleton, cost is $ 24.95 plus postage, at $ 3.25 (not sure on postage yet). Will have on web site either tonight or tomorrow night, the part no# is CSV-101 for reference. > > Check Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. at : http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ > > like mentioned; information should be put in either tonight or tomorrow night, as soon as web master can get to it. > > Thanks > Buck Conner > dba/Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. > Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jul 1999 11:03:43 -0700 From: Subject: MtMan-List: "Indian Sign Lanuage" video Larry said they have changed to a better quality tape, cost to produce and costs in general have raised cost of tape. The tape sent is the new better quality tape, believe everything has been upgraded per Larry. Later Buck _________________________________________ > On Wed, 28 July 1999, turtle@uswestmail.net wrote: > > Buck, > Quess I missed what Larry said about "old" and "new" tapes, and price difference, which do I have coming ? > > Thanks > Turtle. > > ______________________________________________ > > On Wed, 28 July 1999, buck.conner@uswestmail.net wrote: > > > > Folks, > > > > We have just received the new tapes that Larry has just mentioned of : "Indian Sign Language" with Larry Pendleton, cost is $ 24.95 plus postage, at $ 3.25 (not sure on postage yet). Will have on web site either tonight or tomorrow night, the part no# is CSV-101 for reference. > > > > Check Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. at : http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ > > > > like mentioned; information should be put in either tonight or tomorrow night, as soon as web master can get to it. > > > > Thanks > > Buck Conner > > dba/Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. > > > > > Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:55:46 -0700 From: randybublitz@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hard Tack Recipe Todd, Here is my Hardtack recipe. It's from the New Ulm, MN militia. It is dated 1863. All dogs, and most people, like it. 3 cups milk (raw or buttermilk) 2 talblespoons Sugar (raw, brown) 1 tablespoon Salt 8 cups flour (3 cups whole wheat, 5 cups unbleached) 4 tablespoons shortening Mix well and roll out 1/4" thick. Cut 3" x 3" squares. Punch holes in pieces with a wooden spoon handle (like a soda cracker) Bake at 400 dg for 35 minutes (to taste) If you're going to use hardtack soon, don't bake as long- this will leave more moisture in mix. It will be easier to eat, but won't keep as long. Store in a cloth sack, not a sealed container (or it will mold). I've been passing this stuff out for a long time. In fact folks remembered me as the guy with the good hardtack, hence my name 'Hardtack'. It has been used for communion at services at rendezvous many times, it's unleavened bread. My Gt- G'pa was a member of the New Ulm Militia at about the turn of the century. The militia unit was formed in 1862, after the Sioux Uprising in the area. It was formed to defend the town. The Unit has never seen action, but has always been active. They are at all the Public functions, etc... They use the original canons, which were donated by the good people of Cincinatti in 1862. Hope you enjoy the recipe. Hardtack Your Second Amendment Rights protect ALL of your other Rights, Don't give up your Rights ------------------------------ Date: 28 Jul 1999 16:17:19 -0700 From: buck.conner@uswestmail.net Subject: MtMan-List: "Indian Sign Language" new version Folks, We have received the new tapes that Larry has just mentioned: "Indian Sign Language" with Larry Pendleton, cost is $ 24.95 plus postage, at $ 3.25 (not sure on postage yet, but close). NOW have on web site, the part no# is CSV-101 Check Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. at : http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ Thanks Buck Conner dba/Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. Later, Buck Conner AMM Jim Baker Party / Colorado Territory _____________________________________ Get a subscription to a journal of the fur trade and early history of the times, the one the American Mountain Men read and write: The Tomahawk & Long Rifle * 3483 Squires * Conklin, MI 49403 ATTN: Jon Link The subscription for the journal is $20 for a year or $35 for two years. You will receive quarterly issues - Feb, May, Aug, Nov,. _____________________________________ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:00:24 -0700 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject - -----Original Message----- From: larry pendleton To: ammlist@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:55 PM Subject: Re: AMM-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject Lanney, I saw the thing the first time it landed in FLA. It came over about 5:00 AM. Since I was Dairy Farming back then, I was definitely up at that time of day. One thing that was neat was the sound. It sounded like someone running a arc welder. Kind of popping and frying. Were you able to here it ? I don't know if I had been in town if I could have heard it. Pendleton -----Original Message----- From: Ratcliff To: AMM ; History List Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 8:28 PM Subject: AMM-List: Space Shuttle...non period subject I just witnesed an awesome sight. The Space Shuttle passed from west to east right over Texas headed to Florida for a night landing...probably right about now. That puppy was moving faster than you would believe, glowing orange and leaving a white contrail from horizon to horizon, a sight made even more fantastic by the clear sky and full moon. I have rarely seen anything that made my hair stand on end, but folks, that did. Godspeed to the crew and thanks for the show.....something I won't soon forget. Lanney Ratcliff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:20:21 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hard Tack, Pilot Bread Todd, Nabisco actually sells pilot bread, calling it Crown Pilot. It is sold = only in New England but Nabisco will sell it to you and ship it to your = door in amounts as small as half a case....12 boxes the size of graham = cracker cartons....at around $3.00, maybe more now, per box. I bought a = case a couple of years ago and still have three boxes left. I forget = the exact details, but in the late 18th century a New England baker got = a contract with the brand new United States to supply pilot bread to the = navy, which got his business off to a good start. As time went by, his = business was one of the handful of bakeries that merged to form National = Biscuit Company....Nabisco. The recipe used is said to be as close to = the original as modern supplies and regulations will permit. They are = essentially slightly crisper than usual soda crackers, but without the = perforations across the middle of each cracker. They are baked a little = browner than saltines and have a distintive flavor....sort of like = toasted saltines. There are four rows of seven little holes separated = by four rows of four little holes that run the lenght of each cracker = and "Crown Pilot" is embossed in the cracker. Nabisco tried to = discontinue them but the good folks in New England raised so much ruckus = about it (kahn't eat chowdah without 'em) that Nabisco relented and put = them back on the shelves in that area. Call Nabisco for ordering = information at 1-800-NABISCO. That is 800-622-4726. YMOS Lanney Ratcliff - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 9:25 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Hard Tack, Pilot Bread > Brothers, >=20 > Could someone please share some hard tack/pilot bread recipies? I've=20 > misplacced mine and can't remember the exact amounts. I looked in the=20 > archives but couldn't locate anything. Thanks in advance! >=20 > Happy Trails >=20 > Todd Glover >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:48:28 EDT From: Casapy123@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Hard Tack, Pilot Bread Todd, I have a reprint from an old Mother Earth News that has about 2 dozen recipes for hardtack. Different flavors, etc. Rye, wheat and on and on. From an authentic standpoint, these don't make it, but from a taste bud position, they are worth experimenting with. If you want it let me know. Jim Hardee ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:29:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Newbill Subject: MtMan-List: Some Northwest Happenings in Late July and August Two Rivers Rendezvous When: July 30 - Aug 1 Where: Approx. 21 miles east of Libby, MT Details: Rifle Trail , Hawk and knife, Pistol trail, Mountainman Run, Peewee trail, Long gong, Fun shoots, Games for all ages, Junior rifle giveaway, traders welcome, period dress encouraged. Fees: Shooting: blanket prize + $15/single $25/family Camping: $5 Trader: $5 or a donation to the blanket More Info? Contact the following folks: Dave Windom 3688 Hwy 2 S Libby, MT 59923 Ph# 406 293-7251 Beth Kumle 1600 Cabinet Ave. Libby, MT 59923 Ph# 406 293-7672 Mark Morain email at mmorain@libby.org 5640 Champion Haul Rd. Libby, MT 59923 PH# 406 293-8239 ************************************************ Little Butte Mountain Men Bessie Creek Primitive Rendezvous When: Aug 20-22 Where: Bessie Creek (near Prospect), OR Details: See thier website at http://eddie.grrtech.com/LBMM/ Fees: based on attendance, usually between $8.00 - $10.00. More Info? Contact Crazy Wolf at (541) 826-5145 ************************************************ Cataldo Mission Trader's Rendezvous When: Aug 21-22 Where: The Old Cataldo Mission, Idaho. From Couer D'Alene, go east on 90, signs will be posted. Details: Call the Park at 208-682-3814. This is supposed to be a really good event that is getting better every year. Whether you need supplies, or just want to sit around and talk Blackpowder stuff, it's a good one. Fees: More Info? (208)682-3814 ************************************************ "1999 BENEFIT RENDEZVOUS" For the Make a Wish Foundation Sponsered by: SIMLA (Southern Idaho Muzzle Loaders ASSN.) When: Aug 27-29, 1999 Where: Sawtooth Nat'l forest, South Hills. Take HWY 93 south of Twin Falls, Idaho, to one mile north of Rogerson. Turn east on Shoshone Basin Road (gravel). Travel approx. 20-22 miles to Langford Flats, there will be lots of signs posted for you to follow. Details: Trailwalk, knife and hawk, long gong, paper range, pistol, revolver, team shoot, firestarting. Potluck on Saturday night (all are welcome). Net Proceeds go to the "Make a wish Foundation". Bring your own water and firewood. Be prepared for closed fire season, plan on alternative cooking source if needed. Fees: $10 plus $2 per person. Shooting: Adults $10, juniors and Peewees $5. ***No blanket Prizes*** More Info? Contact Ron Corle at 208-734-6204, Scott Hoffman at 208-543-5709, or Jay Edmons at 208-733-8615. ************************************************ Lower Yellowstone Plainsmen Two Day Shoot When: 28-29 Aug Where: Glendive, Montana Details: Rifle and pistol match at a range west of Glendive. Saturday shoots are primitive, gun style blanket shoots. On sunday the regular aggregate pisto and rifle shoots are held. Over night camping on the range is encouraged. Sundays matches consist of two pistol matches and six rifle matches. Pistols shot at 25 and 50 yards, rifle at 25, 50 and 100 yards. Offhand, crossed sticks and bench rest. Fees: Sat: $2 and blanket prize, Sun: $1 per match or $6 for all day. More Info? Contact John Groshart at jonancy1@juno.com Regards Lee Newbill of Viola, Idaho NMLRA member 058863 email at lnewbill@uidaho.edu Keeper of the "Buckskins & Blackpowder!" Webpage http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7186 ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #336 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message. For information on digests or retrieving files and old messages send "help" to the same address. 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