From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #344 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, August 5 1999 Volume 01 : Number 344 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: Macaron -       MtMan-List: N Central Idaho Rendezvous 7-8 Aug -       MtMan-List: Mtman-List: maccaron -       MtMan-List: Books -       Re: MtMan-List: Books -       Re: MtMan-List: Storing salt and spices -       Re: MtMan-List: shooting bag -       Re: MtMan-List: Shootin' Bags -       Re: MtMan-List: shooting bag -       Re: MtMan-List: shooting bag -       MtMan-List: Kings Mountain Old Timer Days -       MtMan-List: Re: extra items for sale -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: extra items for sale -       Re: MtMan-List: Books -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: extra items for sale -       MtMan-List: Books -       Re: MtMan-List: Books -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: extra items for sale -       MtMan-List: Re: Selling stuff -       Re: MtMan-List: Books -       Re: MtMan-List: Books -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: Selling stuff -       Re: MtMan-List: Books -       Re: MtMan-List: Shootin' Bags -       MtMan-List: TVM Trade Gun? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 23:34:39 -0400 (EDT) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI) Subject: MtMan-List: Macaron Lee Newbill wrote: the canoe lists a "macaron of High Wines" What, may I ask, is a macaron? Lee, Lanney: macaron or macaronic means "a mixture" like a mixture of languages. It is derived from the Italian "maccarone" from where the term macaroni comes from [per Random House College Dictionary, 1975 ed.] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:11:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Newbill Subject: MtMan-List: N Central Idaho Rendezvous 7-8 Aug High Country Muzzleloaders, Inc. Annual Rendezvous When: Aug 7-8 Where: SW of Grangeville, Idaho Details: Details: Trail walk, Pistol trail walk, Hawk and knife. Paper shoot, Jackpot shoot, reentry, Seneca Run, Peewee events. Bring water, shovel, ax, bucket. Fees: Singles $10, Family $15, Traders $20 value blanket prize. Non-particpants camp fee $5. More Info? Contact Kevin Asker at 208-983-0583 or Del Houger at 208-983-1932 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 00:22:26 -0400 (EDT) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (JON MARINETTI) Subject: MtMan-List: Mtman-List: maccaron thanks Angela for the excellent research and correct definition! lee, lanney - I apologize for posting up incorrect information (blooper). buck - without TJ purchasng that Louisiana Territory there probably would have been no American fur trade - was 100 years ahead of his time. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 07:05:20 GMT From: "Ian Small" Subject: MtMan-List: Books Hello, I am a new member to the list and a very new student to Mountain Man History. My name is Ian Small and I was wondering if those of you on the list could suggest some good books on the subject for me. Thank you very much. Ian Small "From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put."-Winston Churchill _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 06:35:26 -0500 From: "northwoods" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Books Hello Ian, I would recommend reading: Life in the Far West by Ruxton and Wah To Yah and the Taos Trail by Lewis Garrard for starters. Either of these books should be easy to find. If you would like read them I have multiple copies of both. I am sure other list members will have many suggestions. Good Luck, Tony Clark - -----Original Message----- From: Ian Small To: hist_text@xmission.com Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 2:06 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Books >Hello, > >I am a new member to the list and a very new student to Mountain Man >History. My name is Ian Small and I was wondering if those of you on the >list could suggest some good books on the subject for me. Thank you very >much. > >Ian Small > >"From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is >something up with which I will not put."-Winston Churchill > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:23:02 -0600 From: agottfre@telusplanet.net (Angela Gottfred) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Storing salt and spices Here are some spices & other foodstuffs which were available to David Thompson when he placed his order for supplies for the North West Company's Columbia Department for 1807 & 1808 (from Dempsey, _Rocky Mountain House_, 37-41). To give an idea of the amounts available, I've noted the units he was ordering in : Chocolate (for partners & clerks), coffee (for partners & clerks), cinnamon (lbs.), cloves (lbs.), flour (bags), lemon essence (bottles), nutmegs (dozens), pepper (lbs.), Hyson tea (lbs., for partners & clerks), vinegar (gallons), high wines, Madeira wine (kegs). Your humble & obedient servant, Angela Gottfred agottfre@telusplanet.net ------------------------------ Date: 5 Aug 1999 06:41:48 -0700 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shooting bag Larry, The bag Buck mentioned (the original of William Potts), I got to copy and have used for about 12 years now. I guess Buck was right in copying one that was used as a daily tool for the man's livelyhood. For years I carried a number of extra items, then it was suggested to make a list on a 10 day canoe trip of everything I used - anything that was not listed was left at home from then on, funny after a few years I traded much of that stuff off. In this hobby it seems we get into gathering gadgets, and neat items, then half of them just sit around. When Buckhorn Rendezvous was still operating, they would have a garage sale once a year of new items, Buck said they where things that him and Ben thought where great, but turned out they where the only ones that thought so. They would have tables full of stuff from local buckskinners that decided they no longer needed items once carried in their haversacks or shooting bags. We all need to do as I was told, "make a list of what you use, and how often, then can one item be used for several jobs - if so leave the dupliate at home". Turtle. > On Wed, 04 August 1999, "larry pendleton" wrote: > Guys, > This discussion on shooting bags is great ! My gear inside the bag hasn't > changed much in the last few years, but I seem to build a new bag every > years or so. The bag I am currently using is made of braintan deeskin, > which was not broken quite as well as it should have been. It is still > quite soft but has more body to it than braintan that is done really well. > The bag is a simple single pouch with no gusset, but it is sewn with a welt. > It measures 8 1/2 X 9 inches. The flap is double thickness of the braintan > with a button to hold it closed. It has a single small pocket which carries > a cleaning jag, an extra flint, a few patches, and a small oak twig that is > whittled to fit as a plug for the touch hole which is used when I wash the > bore of my rifle. In the main part of the bag there is a small bag that > holds about ten round balls. I carry a separate bullet pouch for the bulk > of my amunition. It either hangs from a separate strap or from my belt. I > find I can load faster with this arrangement. The rest of the gear includes > : forged pliers, forged screwdriver-flint knapper, fire steel, flint, bag of > tow, bag of extra gun flints, deerskin wallet that holds extra jags a tow > worm and ball puller, folding knife, rolls of ticking strips used for > patching, a can of grease used for lubing patches and the bore of my rifle, > and a small brass tube that contains bear oil for oiling the lock. My > powder measure hangs from the neck of my powder horn, and the vent pick is > carried in the patchbox. My patch knife is attached to the back of the > bag. > I carry the bullet mold, ladle, and lead in my haversack. Where to carry > these items has always been somewhat of a dilema. It seems the bullet mold > was most often carried in the shooting bag, but it is of no use without the > ladle and lead and that is more weight than I want to carry in the shooting > bag. What to do ? > This how I carry my stuff, and it works pretty well for me. How one uses > a shooting bag and other accoutrements is a very individual thing. What > works for one person may or may not work for the next. > Pendleton > -----Original Message----- > From: buck.conner@uswestmail.net > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shooting bag > > > >On Wed, 04 August 1999, "john c. funk,jr" wrote: > > > >> > >> Buck, > >> > >> Fascinating !!!! What were the dimensions of the bag? > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: > >> To: > >> Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 12:15 PM > >> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shooting bag > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, 04 August 1999, bvannoy wrote: > >> > > >> > > > >> > > Allen, > >> > > > >> > > I carry the usual stuff in a large oiltan double pouch with a few > >> > > additions. A pair of handforged pliers ( good for pulling thorns to > >> > > holding balls to trim sprues), a handforged screwdriver, a horn > funnel, > >> > > and a hide glue stick for repairs. In my bad's divider I've sewn > loops > >> > > for my tools and such. Much easier to find in the dark and beats > >> > > digging at the bottom of my bag. No telling what resides down > >> > > there! > >> > > Bill "Chases Hawks" Vannoy > >> > ---------------------------------------- > >> > This is part of an article that will appear in T&LR in the near future. > >> > ---------------------------------------- > >> > I now have a small bag copied from one a hunter from Pottstown PA > carried > >> as part of his profession for a 28 years career from 1787 to 1815. > >> > > >> > For contents, I found his wares to be very interesting, knowing it > >> belonged and was designed by one that worked with it every day as a tool > of > >> his trade. > >> > > >> > Lets start with the small tin containers; 1-3/4 X 4-1/2 X 1-1/4 inches, > >> hinged on the end with a simple pressurer clip to keep the lid secured. > >> > > >> > Inside - container #1: brained deer hide liner used to keep other items > >> > from making noise, (1) combination screwdriver-knapper, (1) vent > >> pick-handforged, (1) iron ball jag, (1) tow worm, (1) handforged small > nail > >> used to insert in small hole in ramrod if rod became stuck, (1) small > >> folding pocket knife, (2) flicker feathers used to plug vent hole in bad > >> weather, (1) small brass bell with leather thong-apparently this hunter > had > >> a dog for his companion. Oh, almost forgot (1) small round tin container > >> apprx. 7/8 dia. X 3/4 inches deep-used for patch lube and lip baum. > >> > > >> > Inside - container #2: brained deer hide liner used to keep other items > >> from making noise, (6) small handforged fishing hooks with tappered end, > >> > (4) small [.29 cal.] round balls-weights, (2) corncob floats, (2) 6 > foot > >> pieces of linen thread, (4) horsehair leaders, (1) small round tin 3/4 X > 3/4 > >> inches-bees wax, (2) handmade sewing needles, (3) thin leather thongs, > and > >> (2) iron blanket pins 1-1/2 inches in dia. > >> > > >> > Contents in back pocket: roll of pillow ticking-.012 thickness, small > >> handmade bottle of cleaner, small short starter, flint wallet with small > >> > turn screw and vent pick, brained deer hide ball bag-20 /.435 round > balls. > >> > > >> > On the back of the back pocket is a rawhide sheath with a 10 inch > overall > >> length butcher knife. > >> > > >> > Contents in front pocket: (1) 3 hole bullet board with thong attached > to > >> an adjustable powder measurer, (1) small oval tin 3 X 4 X 3/4 inches with > >> 3-1/2 X 1 inch striker, (3) flint flakes, tow, tin of char, and (6) > sulfer > >> matches, container again lined with brained deer hide. (1) small > handforged > >> single jaw trap [muskrat], wooden cased compass 2 X 2 X 7/8 > >> > inches, (3) bees wax candles wrapped in linen cloth, > >> > (1) small wooden salt barrel 3/4 X 2 inches, and (1) 2 piece turkey > wing > >> bone call. > >> > > >> > This is very interesting that such a small pouch of the day - 1787 to > >> > 1815 is so compact and only the needed items to perform his tasks are > >> used, every item was needed in his daily survival and gathering of game. > >> > > >> > Note things like bullet molds, ladels, lead bar, pipes-tobacco, etc. > are > >> items cached or left at his residents in the settlements. > >> > > >> > Something we found interesting in his journal was the mention of not > using > >> tobacco, feeling that the odor from such activity would hamper his > ability > >> to get close to game. > >> > ----------------------------------- > >> > > >> > Later, > >> > Buck Conner > >----------------------------------- > >John, > >Your going to have me end up putting the whole article on here. > > > >His bag small by some folks standards, 8-1/2 X 9 inches made of > >commerical cow hide, dark brown in color with a wide strap of 1-1/2 > >inches with a handforged buckle for adjustment of the length and made of > >tightely woven linen in forest colors, now dull from useage and age. The > >bag has a 2" gusset with a divider making two compartments (lined with > >linen material), there are to small leather pockets attached to the back > >of the bag - used to hold to small tin containers. > > > >All seams are welted, even the edge of the flap that is covered with > >linen on the inside and having a narrow welted slit to make a storage > >area for patching material. A clever idea that one should consider when > >building his next pouch, making easy access to your shooting and > >cleaning material, as well as adding weight to the flap to keep it in > >place - flap has a tong used to sucure it to the pewter button attached > >at the bottom of the bag. This will give you a pretty good idea of the > >appearance and how this bag is set up. > >----------------------------------- > >Later, > >Buck Conner Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 15:41:27 -0400 From: ad.miller@mindspring.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Shootin' Bags If anyone wants to post a pix of their favorite shootin bag, email ( or snail mail) it to me with a bit of data on it and I will create a special web page on my site so you can show them off... :)) It can be a simple picture, or you can have your possibles laid out with it, etc... Let me know if anyone wants to... It will be accessable only to members of this list. Addison Miller ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:05:51 -0400 From: ad.miller@mindspring.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shooting bag Last year goin to tha Alafia, I committed a MORTAL SIN!!! Somehow my "halfhimers" caught up with me, and I FORGOT my possibles bag!!! Everyting else made it in tha big metal covered wagon I haul all this stuff with, but my possibles bag got left on the wall..... Bein the resourceful person that I am, I done got me a moccasin grade side of elk and commenced to workin on it. In a couple of hours (I'm slow when I want it done right) I hade a right passable possible bag. It's about 7" by 9", double pocket with 2 smaller pockets sewn inside, and a large over flap. For weight to keep the flap shut, I sewed a pewter Ronnyvous medallion on it. In it is my forged pliers, 50 - .50 cal ball, forged knapper and screw driver, 4 pre-lubed rolls of patching, worm and etc..., flint wallet, a few extra hide thongs, spring clamp, a plaion old rag, a small vial of gun oil, plain dry patches fer swabbin, a small vial of bore cleaner, a patch knife, and hangin on a thong are my pan primer and a vent pick/brush combo. I'm gonna use your idea and sew some loops on the inside to hold the tools instead of letting them just lay in the bottom of the bag... Addison Miller ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 16:19:25 -0400 From: ad.miller@mindspring.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: shooting bag They would have tables full of stuff from local buckskinners that decided they no longer needed items once carried in their haversacks or shooting bags. We all need to do as I was told, "make a list of what you use, and how often, then can one item be used for several jobs - if so leave the dupliate at home". > Turtle. > That would be a heck of an idea for the list.... Put our "extra stuff" up for sale, trade, whatever... Again, if anyone would like, I'll make a page on my site, accessable by this list only, and you can put a pix and a description with the price and your email address. No charge... just trying to help everyone out... Let me know what you think... Addison Miller ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:59:56 -0400 From: "Lewis Kevin Raper" Subject: MtMan-List: Kings Mountain Old Timer Days How many on the list are coming up to the shoot at Kings Mountain State Park in South Carolina? As always it will be on the third weekend of September. Iffin ya come, go by The K Company and holler "Possum Hunter". I might even come out of hiding! Although they are not period-correct, it is a good ideer to bring some rubber boots in case some Texicans or New Zealanders show up! Watch yer top knot - Possum Hunter ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 17:08:50 -0400 From: ad.miller@mindspring.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re: extra items for sale What I'll do is place any item on the page, a pictue, a description, price, and email of seller. After that, everything is done through the buyer and the seller. I don't want a commission or anything. I maintain my own site, its a freebie on on geocities. Rules will be simple... You deal direct with the seller, and anything will be put up on the page so long as it is within our time period. It can be for sale, trade, barter, whatever. I assume no liability for the transaction or offer any warranty. I am doing this strictly as a service for others and expect no commission, or renumeration of any kind. My intent is to help others get rid of "extra stuff" ... *chuckles* probably so they can buy more. Sounds kinda simple to me... I'll work on the page tonite and post the address for all to see tomorrow... Addison Miller - -----Original Message----- From: John Hunt To: ad.miller@mindspring.com Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:33 AM Subject: extra items for sale > > Mr. Miller: > > I for one think it big hearted of you to offer to set up a sale page >for others to use to sell unwanted items. After 20yrs many of us have many >items to get rid of, early mistakes, incorrect items. Many things could help >other beginners to get started. If you set this up I would like to know >rules and regulations you`ll use, number of items to post and anything else. >I`m interested. I would be willing to send you a percentage of what I sell. >You have to pay to maintain your site, it`s only fair if we use we should >share expenses. > > Thank you for your consideration. > > >John (BIG JOHN) Hunt jhunt1@one.net >Longhunter >Mountainman >southwest Ohio > ------------------------------ Date: 5 Aug 1999 09:40:10 -0700 From: buck.conner@uswestmail.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: extra items for sale > On Wed, 04 August 1999, ad.miller@mindspring.com wrote: > What I'll do is place any item on the page, a pictue, a description, price, > and email of seller. After that, everything is done through the buyer and > the seller. I don't want a commission or anything. I maintain my own site, > its a freebie on on geocities. > > Rules will be simple... You deal direct with the seller, and anything will > be put up on the page so long as it is within our time period. It can be > for sale, trade, barter, whatever. I assume no liability for the > transaction or offer any warranty. I am doing this strictly as a service > for others and expect no commission, or renumeration of any kind. > My intent is to help others get rid of "extra stuff" ... *chuckles* probably > so they can buy more. Sounds kinda simple to me... > > I'll work on the page tonite and post the address for all to see > tomorrow... > > Addison Miller > > > Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:33 AM > >You have to pay to maintain your site, it`s only fair if we use we should > >share expenses. > > > > Thank you for your consideration. > >John (BIG JOHN) Hunt jhunt1@one.net ________________________________ Hey "Ad", I'm sure that most would agree a ?? % of the sale for your efforts like John has mentioned would be fair. If they take their sellable items to a dealer they would pay a 20% for items under $500 and 10% for items above - this seems to be standard anymore, of course your using their space and they have overhead. You said your overhead is nothing, but you still have time invested and should get something for your efforts, whatever is fair to you. Even 5% not much when you think of the savings to the seller, when compared to going to a dealer, would help you buy a new toy, and that's the bottom line "we all need our toys". I will look tonight and gather up some items, it's been about two years since doing this. Use to take the funds from our sale table when we still had the store, then donate it to "Children's Hospital" here in Denver. It would surprise you how much stuff you can move, many newcomers need everything and aren't into the reenactment stuff yet. Thank you for the offer. Later, Buck Conner dba / Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ _____________________________________ NOW AVAILABLE a journal of the Fur Trade and early history of the times. AMM journal The Tomahawk & Long Rifle * 3483 Squires * Conklin, MI 49403 ATTN: Jon Link The subscription for T&LR is $20 for a year - quarterly issues - Feb, May, Aug, Nov,. _____________________________________ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 17:20:25 GMT From: "Ian Small" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Books Tony, Thank you for the suggestions I shall look for those books. I have just returned from the library, I took a list of books that I found on the Mountain Man Web Site unfortunately my search came up unsuccessfully. I did find one book which interested me though, it is called The Death of the Bravos, by John Myers Myers. It seems to have some Mountain Man History in it anyway. Much Thanks. Ian _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: 5 Aug 1999 10:55:02 -0700 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: extra items for sale > > I am doing this strictly as a service for others and expect no commission, > > or renumeration of any kind. > > > > Addison Miller > > - ----------------------- > > >You have to pay to maintain your site, it`s only fair if we use we should > > >share expenses. - ----------------------- > Even 5% not much when you think of the savings to the seller, when compared to going to a dealer, would help you buy a new toy, and that's the bottom line "we all need our toys". - ---------------------- Hey Addison, Like mentioned take a percentage and you go buy some new goodies, that's fair for your trouble. I'll see what I have laying around no longer used. Turtle. Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 12:51:01 -0500 From: bvannoy Subject: MtMan-List: Books Hello, list: Since the subject of books has been brought up, I have a question as well. Was going through Jas Townsend recently and looking at cookbooks. Can anyone recommend any or give critiques? Specifically: "Cast Iron Cooking" ; "Dutch Oven Cooking" ; "Buckskinner's Cookbook" ; "The Backcountry Housewife". Thanks much, Badger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 14:37:00 EDT From: ThisOldFox@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Books > Was going through Jas Townsend recently and looking at cookbooks. > Can anyone recommend any or give critiques? Specifically: "Cast Iron > Cooking" ; "Dutch Oven Cooking" ; "Buckskinner's Cookbook" ; "The > Backcountry Housewife". Badger, The only things those books really tell you is what to cook. They aren't really necessary for someone who knows how to cook. Anything you can make at home on your stove can be made in a Dutch oven. I taught Dutch oven cooking to Boy Scout leaders for a zillion years. All you need is a common sense approach. You can bake, broil, or stew in one. You can turn the lid upside down and use it as a griddle. Everything you cook in a Dutch oven tastes good. It is near impossible to ruin food. If it's cooking too fast., remove coals. If it's cooking to slow, add coals. The heavy lid makes it function like a pressure cooker. You can use the cheapest cuts of meat and they will come out tender. Other than common sense, there is really no big secret to Dutch oven cooking. Much to do is made about putting X number of coals on top, and X number of coals on the bottem to maintain X degrees of temperature. Hooey. Just cook your vittles and keep a wary eye on them once in a while. If you don't know what to put in the pot, then the books will give you some ideas. If you know what you like, save the money and buy a cast iron skillet with it. Dave Kanger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:22:24 -0400 From: ad.miller@mindspring.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: extra items for sale *GRINS* Thanks for the kind offer, but I really do not want any thing for doing this. I love BP shooting, the Ronnys, etc... and if this helps others, or newbies getting started... then I am more than glad to do it. Tell ya what, if you see the "Mouse House" at a Ronny, then buy me a cup of coffee or something :) Addison Miller aka SeanBear.... (heh... don't ask) - -----Original Message----- From: buck.conner@uswestmail.net To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 12:40 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: extra items for sale >> On Wed, 04 August 1999, ad.miller@mindspring.com wrote: >> What I'll do is place any item on the page, a pictue, a description, price, >> and email of seller. After that, everything is done through the buyer and >> the seller. I don't want a commission or anything. I maintain my own site, >> its a freebie on on geocities. >> >> Rules will be simple... You deal direct with the seller, and anything will >> be put up on the page so long as it is within our time period. It can be >> for sale, trade, barter, whatever. I assume no liability for the >> transaction or offer any warranty. I am doing this strictly as a service >> for others and expect no commission, or renumeration of any kind. >> My intent is to help others get rid of "extra stuff" ... *chuckles* probably >> so they can buy more. Sounds kinda simple to me... >> >> I'll work on the page tonite and post the address for all to see >> tomorrow... >> >> Addison Miller >> >> >> Date: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:33 AM >> >You have to pay to maintain your site, it`s only fair if we use we should >> >share expenses. >> > >> > Thank you for your consideration. >> >John (BIG JOHN) Hunt jhunt1@one.net >________________________________ >Hey "Ad", > >I'm sure that most would agree a ?? % of the sale for your efforts like John has mentioned would be fair. If they take their sellable items to a dealer they would pay a 20% for items under $500 and 10% for items above - this seems to be standard anymore, of course your using their space and they have overhead. You said your overhead is nothing, but you still have time invested and should get something for your efforts, whatever is fair to you. > >Even 5% not much when you think of the savings to the seller, when compared to going to a dealer, would help you buy a new toy, and that's the bottom line "we all need our toys". > >I will look tonight and gather up some items, it's been about two years since doing this. Use to take the funds from our sale table when we still had the store, then donate it to "Children's Hospital" here in Denver. It would surprise you how much stuff you can move, many newcomers need everything and aren't into the reenactment stuff yet. > >Thank you for the offer. > > > >Later, >Buck Conner >dba / Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. >http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ >_____________________________________ >NOW AVAILABLE a journal of the Fur Trade >and early history of the times. AMM journal > >The Tomahawk & Long Rifle * 3483 Squires * >Conklin, MI 49403 >ATTN: Jon Link > >The subscription for T&LR is $20 for a year - >quarterly issues - Feb, May, Aug, Nov,. >_____________________________________ > > > >Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:44:38 -0400 From: ad.miller@mindspring.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Selling stuff For those who are interested and responded, here is the address of the TRADERS ROW page I added to my site. Take a look at it, read it, and let me know what you think. http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Geyser/3216/trader.htm This will be a service ONLY for those on this list and not shared with 3rd party individuals. Addison Miller ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:13:57 EDT From: RR1LA@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Books Ian, Welcome to the incredible family of buckskinning. Some of my favorite books are: "A Life Wild and Perilous" by Robert M. Utley; "Firearms, Traps & Tools Of The Mountain Men" by Carl P. Russell and the entire "Book Of Buckskinning" Series (Vol 1-7) by William H. Scurlock. Also the "Foxfire" series is a great resource. All are available online through amazon.com, and others. Other useful items are the Dixie Gun Works and Track Of The Wolf catalogs. Enjoy. Barney Fife. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:29:27 EDT From: RR1LA@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Books Badger, I have eaten vittles from all of those and they were great. I also have the "Buffalo Cookbook" by Kim Dowling, published by the National Buffalo Association; the Original Cowboy Cookbook (recipes from the 1840's) by 'Wild Wes' Medley published by Record Printing Company and the WABUHA Boy Scout District 'Midwest Dutch Oven Cookoff' by Bill Randall and Duane Reiter. They also have some really fine recipes. If you or anyone else wants more contact info, please let me know. Barney Fife "GIVE a man a fish and he'll eat for a day; TEACH a man to fish and he'll sit in a boat and drink beer every day" Book of Fish 24:7 ------------------------------ Date: 5 Aug 1999 15:59:03 -0700 From: buck.conner@uswestmail.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Selling stuff On Thu, 05 August 1999, ad.miller@mindspring.com wrote: > > For those who are interested and responded, here is the address of the > TRADERS ROW page I added to my site. Take a look at it, read it, and let me > know what you think. > > http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Geyser/3216/trader.htm > > This will be a service ONLY for those on this list and not shared with 3rd > party individuals. > > Addison Miller Addison, Looks good to me, how do we get to post our wares, etc. Later, Buck Conner dba / Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ _____________________________________ NOW AVAILABLE a journal of the Fur Trade and early history of the times. AMM journal The Tomahawk & Long Rifle * 3483 Squires * Conklin, MI 49403 ATTN: Jon Link The subscription for T&LR is $20 for a year - quarterly issues - Feb, May, Aug, Nov,. _____________________________________ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: 5 Aug 1999 16:02:34 -0700 From: buck.conner@uswestmail.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Books On Thu, 05 August 1999, ThisOldFox@aol.com wrote: > > > Was going through Jas Townsend recently and looking at cookbooks. > > Can anyone recommend any or give critiques? Specifically: "Cast Iron > > Cooking" ; "Dutch Oven Cooking" ; "Buckskinner's Cookbook" ; "The > > Backcountry Housewife". > > Badger, > The only things those books really tell you is what to cook. They aren't > really necessary for someone who knows how to cook. Anything you can make at > home on your stove can be made in a Dutch oven. > > I taught Dutch oven cooking to Boy Scout leaders for a zillion years. All > you need is a common sense approach. You can bake, broil, or stew in one. > You can turn the lid upside down and use it as a griddle. Everything you > cook in a Dutch oven tastes good. It is near impossible to ruin food. If > it's cooking too fast., remove coals. If it's cooking to slow, add coals. > > The heavy lid makes it function like a pressure cooker. You can use the > cheapest cuts of meat and they will come out tender. Other than common > sense, there is really no big secret to Dutch oven cooking. Much to do is > made about putting X number of coals on top, and X number of coals on the > bottem to maintain X degrees of temperature. Hooey. Just cook your vittles > and keep a wary eye on them once in a while. If you don't know what to put > in the pot, then the books will give you some ideas. If you know what you > like, save the money and buy a cast iron skillet with it. > > Dave Kanger Dave I have an article done by Brook Ellitt on "care of cast iron cookware", very well done - ran it in one of our cataolgs a few years ago. Can post it on this hist_list if interested. Later, Buck Conner dba / Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc. http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ _____________________________________ NOW AVAILABLE a journal of the Fur Trade and early history of the times. AMM journal The Tomahawk & Long Rifle * 3483 Squires * Conklin, MI 49403 ATTN: Jon Link The subscription for T&LR is $20 for a year - quarterly issues - Feb, May, Aug, Nov,. _____________________________________ Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 18:14:06 -0600 From: Allen Hall Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Shootin' Bags Randy, >As for my 'pack'... I >have recently been carrying a set of saddle bags with detachable pommel >bags. I coppied a set of bags that 'Short Step' has. I find that the 4 >seperate bags, 2 big- 2 small, are good for keeping my gear organized. I >carry them over my shoulder. If any one should ask... those *%#@!~+!!!! >Crows stole my horse, and left me afoot. My ladle, lead, spare stuff, >bullet mold, etc... are stashed in the saddle bags, depending on what is >expected. I appreciate your question. It has generated some good >responses, which I find educational. YMHS, Hardtack > I have begun carrying my stuff in saddlebags as well. I'm mounted when possible, but sometimes it's not. Saddlebags go over the shoulder fine and carry gear well. It's sure worked for me. Hey everyone, thanks again for the letters. Like Jon said, it's time to reconsider a couple of things for improvement! Allen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 18:14:08 -0600 From: Allen Hall Subject: MtMan-List: TVM Trade Gun? Has anyone got or seen a TVM trade gun? I'm thinking real serious about getting one. Based on their other stuff, I will, but I'd like the input. Thanks ahead of time, Allen Hall in Fort Hall country Allen Hall #1729 from Fort Hall country ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #344 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.