From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #398 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, October 28 1999 Volume 01 : Number 398 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: AMM-List: Hammer ? -       MtMan-List: Fw: [mountainmen] Hatters? -       Re: MtMan-List: making good coffee -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: AMM-List: Hammer ? -       Re: MtMan-List: making good coffee -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: AMM-List: Hammer ? -       Re: MtMan-List: Re: AMM-List: Hammer ? -       Re: MtMan-List: making good coffee ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:43:46 EDT From: NaugaMok@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: AMM-List: Hammer ? In a message dated 10/27/1999 9:14:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kramer@kramerize.com writes: > I've seen rows of various size cross peins in tool outlet stores selling > China > trade goods, they are fairly crude looking but they are cheap. The ones from Harbor Freight seem to work good too once they're cleaned up & a decent handle installed. They seem to have as much "life" as the ones I have carrying US brand names like Mac Tools & Collins. Finding the smaller cross peins (2 lb & less) in the American brands seems to be a problem locally. What catalog should we look for for the smaller cross penis? How 'bout a source for straight peins -- can't seem to find any of those locally either. You're absolutely right about the basic hammer. They haven't changed much over the last 300 yrs except for the oddities that were designed for special purposes. The biggest change in hammers was the socketed claw hammer in about 1840 -- the basic design we have today with the extended handle "sleeve" built into the head -- think it was called an "adz hammer"?? The only change to this design was the claws are now split all the way to the end instead of being joined. NM - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:51:53 -0600 From: "Ron Chamberlain" Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: [mountainmen] Hatters? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01BF213A.D4362040 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_008D_01BF213A.D4362040" - ------=_NextPart_001_008D_01BF213A.D4362040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perhaps someone on the list can help out?? - -----Original Message----- From: Kim & Jen To: mountainmen@onelist.com Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 8:46 PM Subject: [mountainmen] Hatters? Hi, all; I am trying to do some research for a book that I'm working on. =20 Does anyone know if there were any hatters in the states in 1826 or if = we still got most of our hats from England? If there were any hatters here, can anyone get me the names of any of = the firms? Thanks! Calls The Wind Visit with us at our homepage: www.geocities.com/RainForest/Andes/8353 - ------=_NextPart_001_008D_01BF213A.D4362040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mabel
Perhaps someone on the = list can help=20 out??
 
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Kim & Jen <kcurtis@ricochet.net>
T= o: mountainmen@onelist.com = <mountainmen@onelist.com>Date:=20 Wednesday, October 27, 1999 8:46 PM
Subject: [mountainmen] = Hatters?

Hi, all;
 
I am trying to do some research for a book that I'm working = on. =20
Does anyone know if there were any hatters in the states in 1826 or = if we=20 still got most of our hats from England?
If there were any hatters here, can anyone get me the names of any = of the=20 firms?
Thanks!
Calls The Wind
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------=_NextPart_000_008C_01BF213A.D4362040-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:31:15 -0500 From: "Douglas Hepner" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: making good coffee - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:57 PM Subject: MtMan-List: making good coffee > Hello the list, > > Can anyone tell me how to make a good cup of camp coffee? I just got a new > pot from Westminster Forge, and figure it's time I learned. Some of the > "brew" I've tasted would knock yer sox's off.... > > Steve > Steve, All you gotta do to have good coffee, is on the first day of rendezvous, 1. get about 4 handfuls of ground coffee in your pot with some water. 2. Then put it on the fire. 3.When you have finished drinking all the coffee you want just add some more water and more coffee into the pot and return to fire. DO NOT CLEAN COFFEE POT. 4. Repeat steps 1.-3. all day every day until last day of rendezvous. 5. On the last day of rendezvous, pour yourself a perfect cup of this power coffee and you will amaze yourself how fast you can pack all your gear and get home!!! "Dull Hawk" > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:23:47 -0600 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: AMM-List: Hammer ? Centaur Forge, POB 340, Burlington, WI 53105 1-800-666-9175 They carry a pretty complete line of hammers common to the metal trades. = They carry several patterns which would be useful in tack repair. The= Peddinghaus Scythe pattern is certainly a good old style #50010 20000, 1.1 lbs. $16.00. = =20 I have several hammers each to a specific purpose. A 1-1/3 lb cross peen hand sledge is the most useful on my leather bench. I mounted a very short 4" handle on a cobblers hammer and use it exclusively to press leather seams= and creases, also to press air out when gluing to insure tight bonding. I push things down with it smoothing -- rarely striking to protect the face from scarring. Centaur's Peddinghaus German Locksmith pattern #50390 20600 at 1.3 lbs is a pretty close design to the hammer I use most with leather work, $14.50. John... At 01:43 PM 10/28/99 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 10/27/1999 9:14:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 >kramer@kramerize.com writes: > >> I've seen rows of various size cross peins in tool outlet stores selling= =20 >> China >>=A0 trade goods, they are fairly crude looking but they are cheap. > >The ones from Harbor Freight seem to work good too once they're cleaned up= &=20 >a decent handle installed.=A0 They seem to have as much "life" as the ones= I=20 >have carrying US brand names like Mac Tools & Collins.=A0 Finding the= smaller=20 >cross peins (2 lb & less) in the American brands seems to be a problem=20 >locally.=A0 What catalog should we look for for the smaller cross penis?=A0= How=20 >'bout a source for straight peins -- can't seem to find any of those= locally=20 >either.=A0=20 > >You're absolutely right about the basic hammer.=A0 They haven't changed= much=20 >over the last 300 yrs except for the oddities that were designed for= special=20 >purposes.=A0 The biggest change in hammers was the socketed claw hammer in= =20 >about 1840 -- the basic design we have today with the extended handle=20 >"sleeve" built into the head -- think it was called an "adz hammer"??=A0= The=20 >only change to this design was the claws are now split all the way to the end=20 >instead of being joined. > >NM > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/ ~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >=20 Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. John Kramer - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 20:58:26 -0700 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: making good coffee This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01BF2187.2E1FC9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is a very good reciepe for coffee. Around our camp, we make 2 = styles of coffee. SMOOTH OR CRUNCHY You've never really lived till you've tried Lanney Ratcliff's coffee. = One cup will last you all day. IT'S GOOD TO THE LAST DROP Pendleton -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Hepner To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:32 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: making good coffee =20 =20 =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:57 PM Subject: MtMan-List: making good coffee =20 =20 > Hello the list, > > Can anyone tell me how to make a good cup of camp coffee? I just = got a new > pot from Westminster Forge, and figure it's time I learned. Some = of the > "brew" I've tasted would knock yer sox's off.... > > Steve > =20 Steve, All you gotta do to have good coffee, is on the first day of = rendezvous, 1. get about 4 handfuls of ground coffee in your pot with some = water. 2. Then put it on the fire. 3.When you have finished drinking all the = coffee you want just add some more water and more coffee into the pot and = return to fire. DO NOT CLEAN COFFEE POT. 4. Repeat steps 1.-3. all day every = day until last day of rendezvous. 5. On the last day of rendezvous, pour = yourself a perfect cup of this power coffee and you will amaze yourself how = fast you can pack all your gear and get home!!! =20 "Dull Hawk" > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > =20 =20 ---------------------- hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01BF2187.2E1FC9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That is a very good reciepe for = coffee. =20 Around our camp, we make 2 styles of coffee.  SMOOTH OR=20 CRUNCHY
You've never really lived till = you've tried=20 Lanney Ratcliff's coffee.  One cup will last you all day.  = IT'S GOOD=20 TO THE LAST DROP
Pendleton
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Douglas Hepner <dullhawk@texomaonline.com&g= t;
To:=20 hist_text@lists.xmission.com= =20 <hist_text@lists.xmission.com= >
Date:=20 Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: = MtMan-List:=20 making good coffee


----- Original Message=20 -----
From: <SWcushing@aol.com>
To: = <hist_text@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Monday, October 25, 1999 9:57 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: making good = coffee


> Hello the list,
>
> Can anyone = tell me=20 how to make a good cup of camp coffee? I just got a new
> pot = from=20 Westminster Forge, and figure it's time I learned. Some of = the
>=20 "brew" I've tasted would knock yer sox's = off....
>
>=20 Steve
>

Steve,
    All you gotta do = to have=20 good coffee, is on the first day of rendezvous,
1. get about 4 = handfuls=20 of ground coffee in your pot with some water. 2.
Then put it on = the fire.=20 3.When you have finished drinking all the coffee
you want just = add some=20 more water and more coffee into the pot and return to
fire. DO = NOT CLEAN=20 COFFEE POT. 4. Repeat steps 1.-3. all day every day until
last = day of=20 rendezvous. 5. On the last day of rendezvous, pour yourself = a
perfect cup=20 of this power coffee and you will amaze yourself how fast you
can = pack=20 all your gear and get home!!!

"Dull Hawk"
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- ------=_NextPart_000_00DB_01BF2187.2E1FC9C0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:03:26 -0700 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: AMM-List: Hammer ? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00FE_01BF2187.E0E0E580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks John. Don't know why I didn't think of this. Pendleton -----Original Message----- From: John Kramer To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:26 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: AMM-List: Hammer ? =20 =20 Centaur Forge, POB 340, Burlington, WI 53105 1-800-666-9175 =20 They carry a pretty complete line of hammers common to the metal = trades. They carry several patterns which would be useful in tack repair. The = Peddinghaus Scythe pattern is certainly a good old style #50010 20000, 1.1 lbs. = $16.00. =20 I have several hammers each to a specific purpose. A 1-1/3 lb = cross peen hand sledge is the most useful on my leather bench. I mounted a very = short 4" handle on a cobblers hammer and use it exclusively to press leather = seams and creases, also to press air out when gluing to insure tight bonding. = I push things down with it smoothing -- rarely striking to protect the face = from scarring. =20 Centaur's Peddinghaus German Locksmith pattern #50390 20600 at 1.3 = lbs is a pretty close design to the hammer I use most with leather work, = $14.50. =20 John... =20 =20 =20 At 01:43 PM 10/28/99 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 10/27/1999 9:14:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,=20 >kramer@kramerize.com writes: > >> I've seen rows of various size cross peins in tool outlet stores = selling=20 >> China >> trade goods, they are fairly crude looking but they are cheap. > >The ones from Harbor Freight seem to work good too once they're = cleaned up &=20 >a decent handle installed. They seem to have as much "life" as the = ones I=20 >have carrying US brand names like Mac Tools & Collins. Finding the = smaller=20 >cross peins (2 lb & less) in the American brands seems to be a = problem=20 >locally. What catalog should we look for for the smaller cross = penis? How=20 >'bout a source for straight peins -- can't seem to find any of = those locally=20 >either.=20 > >You're absolutely right about the basic hammer. They haven't = changed much=20 >over the last 300 yrs except for the oddities that were designed = for special=20 >purposes. The biggest change in hammers was the socketed claw = hammer in=20 >about 1840 -- the basic design we have today with the extended = handle=20 >"sleeve" built into the head -- think it was called an "adz = hammer"?? The=20 >only change to this design was the claws are now split all the way = to the end=20 >instead of being joined. > >NM > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.c= om/ ~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >=20 Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. John Kramer =20 ---------------------- hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ------=_NextPart_000_00FE_01BF2187.E0E0E580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks John.  Don't know why I = didn't think=20 of this.
Pendleton
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
T= o:=20 hist_text@lists.xmission.com= =20 <hist_text@lists.xmission.com= >
Date:=20 Thursday, October 28, 1999 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: = MtMan-List:=20 Re: AMM-List: Hammer ?

Centaur Forge, POB 340,=20 Burlington, WI 53105 1-800-666-9175

They carry a pretty = complete line=20 of hammers common to the metal trades.  They
carry several = patterns=20 which would be useful in tack repair.  The = Peddinghaus
Scythe=20 pattern is certainly a good old style #50010 20000, 1.1 lbs. = $16.00. =20
I have several hammers each to a specific purpose.  A  = 1-1/3=20 lb cross peen
hand
sledge is the most useful on my leather=20 bench.   I mounted a very short 4"
handle on a = cobblers=20 hammer and use it exclusively to press leather seams and
creases, = also to=20 press air out when gluing to insure tight bonding.  I = push
things=20 down with it smoothing -- rarely striking to protect the face=20 from
scarring.

Centaur's Peddinghaus German Locksmith = pattern=20 #50390 20600 at 1.3 lbs is a
pretty close design to the hammer I = use most=20 with leather work, $14.50.

John...



At 01:43 PM = 10/28/99 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 10/27/1999 = 9:14:12 PM=20 Pacific Daylight Time,
>kramer@kramerize.com=20 writes:
>
>> I've seen rows of various size cross = peins in=20 tool outlet stores selling
>> China
>> trade = goods, they=20 are fairly crude looking but they are cheap.
>
>The ones = from=20 Harbor Freight seem to work good too once they're cleaned up & =
>a=20 decent handle installed. They seem to have as much "life" = as the=20 ones I
>have carrying US brand names like Mac Tools & = Collins.=20 Finding the smaller
>cross peins (2 lb & less) in the = American=20 brands seems to be a problem
>locally. What catalog should we = look=20 for for the smaller cross penis? How
>'bout a source for = straight=20 peins -- can't seem to find any of those locally
>either.=20
>
>You're absolutely right about the basic hammer. They = haven't=20 changed much
>over the last 300 yrs except for the oddities = that were=20 designed for special
>purposes. The biggest change in hammers = was the=20 socketed claw hammer in
>about 1840 -- the basic design we = have today=20 with the extended handle
>"sleeve" built into the = head --=20 think it was called an "adz hammer"?? The
>only = change to=20 this design was the claws are now split all the way to the
end=20
>instead of being=20 = joined.
>
>NM
>
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Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without.
John = Kramer =20 <kramer@kramerize.com>

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- ------=_NextPart_000_00FE_01BF2187.E0E0E580-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:10:34 EDT From: ElZopilote@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: AMM-List: Hammer ? In a message dated 10/28/99 8:26:30 PM Central Daylight Time, kramer@kramerize.com writes: << Centaur's Peddinghaus German Locksmith pattern #50390 20600 at 1.3 lbs is a pretty close design to the hammer I use most with leather work, $14.50. John... >> being a blacksmith myself, i've noticed that centaur is a bit pricey...i'm not knocking them mind you, but you might try to get ahold of peddinghaus directly, as i did when i bought my mankel forge...if yer on a budget...errr...maybe can't afford a budget like me...'s just a hint zopi - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:21:51 -0500 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: making good coffee This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF218A.73AA3040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yep, it will make you run like a hamster on crack. Lanney ----- Original Message -----=20 From: larry pendleton=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 10:58 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: making good coffee That is a very good reciepe for coffee. Around our camp, we make 2 = styles of coffee. SMOOTH OR CRUNCHY You've never really lived till you've tried Lanney Ratcliff's coffee. = One cup will last you all day. IT'S GOOD TO THE LAST DROP Pendleton -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Hepner To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:32 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: making good coffee ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 9:57 PM Subject: MtMan-List: making good coffee > Hello the list, > > Can anyone tell me how to make a good cup of camp coffee? I just = got a new > pot from Westminster Forge, and figure it's time I learned. Some = of the > "brew" I've tasted would knock yer sox's off.... > > Steve > Steve, All you gotta do to have good coffee, is on the first day of = rendezvous, 1. get about 4 handfuls of ground coffee in your pot with some = water. 2. Then put it on the fire. 3.When you have finished drinking all the = coffee you want just add some more water and more coffee into the pot and = return to fire. DO NOT CLEAN COFFEE POT. 4. Repeat steps 1.-3. all day every = day until last day of rendezvous. 5. On the last day of rendezvous, pour = yourself a perfect cup of this power coffee and you will amaze yourself how = fast you can pack all your gear and get home!!! "Dull Hawk" > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ---------------------- hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BF218A.73AA3040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yep, it will make you run like a hamster on crack.
Lanney
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 larry = pendleton=20
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com =
Sent: Thursday, October 28, = 1999 10:58=20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: making = good=20 coffee

That is a very good reciepe for = coffee. =20 Around our camp, we make 2 styles of coffee.  SMOOTH OR=20 CRUNCHY
You've never really lived till = you've tried=20 Lanney Ratcliff's coffee.  One cup will last you all day.  = IT'S GOOD=20 TO THE LAST DROP
Pendleton
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Douglas Hepner <dullhawk@texomaonline.com&g= t;
To:=20 hist_text@lists.xmission.com= =20 <hist_text@lists.xmission.com= >
Date:=20 Thursday, October 28, 1999 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: = MtMan-List:=20 making good coffee


----- Original Message=20 -----
From: <SWcushing@aol.com>
To: = <hist_text@lists.xmission.com= >
Sent:=20 Monday, October 25, 1999 9:57 PM
Subject: MtMan-List: making good = coffee


> Hello the list,
>
> Can anyone = tell me=20 how to make a good cup of camp coffee? I just got a new
> pot = from=20 Westminster Forge, and figure it's time I learned. Some of = the
>=20 "brew" I've tasted would knock yer sox's off....
>
>=20 Steve
>

Steve,
    All you gotta do = to have=20 good coffee, is on the first day of rendezvous,
1. get about 4 = handfuls=20 of ground coffee in your pot with some water. 2.
Then put it on = the fire.=20 3.When you have finished drinking all the coffee
you want just = add some=20 more water and more coffee into the pot and return to
fire. DO = NOT CLEAN=20 COFFEE POT. 4. Repeat steps 1.-3. all day every day until
last = day of=20 rendezvous. 5. On the last day of rendezvous, pour yourself = a
perfect cup=20 of this power coffee and you will amaze yourself how fast you
can = pack=20 all your gear and get home!!!

"Dull Hawk"
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