From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #436 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, December 29 1999 Volume 01 : Number 436 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur -       MtMan-List: Rabbit Fur -       Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur -       MtMan-List: Aphishamores ??? -       Fwd: MtMan-List: Rabbit Fur Tree Wood # correction -       MtMan-List: Pine bough beds -       MtMan-List: Change the topic line -       Re: MtMan-List: A & E and George Washington--alert only--not fordiscussion -       Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur -       Re: MtMan-List: TREE WOOD"S PHONE NOMBER -       MtMan-List: Re: dead horse gun discussion -       MtMan-List: las vegas rendezvous (fwd) -       Re: MtMan-List: las vegas rendezvous (fwd) -       MtMan-List: Re: dead horse gun discussion -       Re: MtMan-List: over-trapping -       MtMan-List: Coffee grinders -       Re: MtMan-List: Coffee grinders -       Re: MtMan-List: Coffee grinders -       Re: MtMan-List: Aphishamores ??? -       MtMan-List: Char Cloth -       Re: MtMan-List: Char Cloth -       RE: MtMan-List: Fw: Address Request -       RE: MtMan-List: Aphishamores ??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:49:33 -0500 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur Spotted Pony is THE best!!! Been buying from them for 9 years... Ad Miller me? I wait for the Alafia and do >Spotted Pony. thanks and it is only something like 3 weeks till the >Alafia.. >anne > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 19:53:16 -0800 (PST) From: George Noe Subject: MtMan-List: Rabbit Fur The last I knew of Tree Wood, he was moving his stuff to his home. The last card I have from him, list RABBIT FURS $75.00/100. His phone # on this card (home) is 940-586-194. Wichita Falls TX. ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:02:07 -0600 From: "Ratcliff" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur Glen (Tree) Wood PO Box 21 Holiday, Tx 76366 940-586-1943 - ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Anne MacDonnald To: Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 9:44 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur > can you scare it up... i would greatly appreciate it. thanks anne >=20 > Bill Cunningham wrote: >=20 > > Someone else who has lots of rabbit furs for sale is Tree (AMM) down = in > > Wichita Falls TX. I don't have his phone or address handy, but he = usually > > has a ton or so of the things on hand and will ship. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Anne MacDonnald > > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > > Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 7:28 PM > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur > > > > >Hi Cap, he is in the wilds of Ohio I think, some horridly cold = place like > > >that. Thought to dig up some of my buckskinning url's but not = sure > > >exactly where to send him... at this point all I know is that he = needs the > > >stuff asap. Some sort of Valentine Day project. > > >thanks in advance... > > > > > >R Lahti wrote: > > > > > >> Anne MacDonnald wrote: > > >> > > > >> > hi all; > > >> > Not to change the subject or anything... > > >> > > >> Anne, > > >> > > >> Yea sure. Where is your friend located? It may be just as = easy to > > >> put him onto a Leather House like Spokane Leather, Oregon = Leather, > > >> Moscow Hide and Fur, etc. I remain.... > > >> > > >> YMOS > > >> Capt. Lahti' > > >> > > >> ---------------------- > > >> hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > > > > >---------------------- > > >hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >=20 >=20 > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 20:03:33 -0800 (PST) From: George Noe Subject: MtMan-List: Aphishamores ??? In Terry C. Johnston's book "Blood Song". book 8 of the series "THE PLAINSMEN" I have found , Aphishamores, the leather and canvas covers for the pack saddles. Aparejos, saddle pads used beneath the mules' wooden pack frames. Just thought I wood pass this along as I raised the question earlier. grn ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 20:07:15 -0800 (PST) From: George Noe Subject: Fwd: MtMan-List: Rabbit Fur Tree Wood # correction - --- George Noe wrote: > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 19:53:16 -0800 (PST) > From: George Noe > Subject: MtMan-List: Rabbit Fur > To: hist_ text > Reply-to: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > > The last I knew of Tree Wood, he was moving his > stuff > to his home. The last card I have from him, list > RABBIT FURS $75.00/100. > His phone # on this card (home) is 940-586-1943. > Wichita Falls TX. > > > ===== > George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > > > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the > skyline. > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:44:31 -0700 From: Allen Hall Subject: MtMan-List: Pine bough beds Hello the List, This is a great "window of opportunity" for you to try out the old time pine bough bed. Gather up a couple of good bushy Christmas trees, find your self a place to camp, trim the branches off the tree and you now have the makin's for a good nights sleep. Get the branches about 6-8" deep, throw your ground cloth over them, then your bed roll. You'll enjoy a wonderful night of sleep, with a nice smell from the pine boughs. We've done this in the past and it has worked out great. YMOS, Allen Hall in Fort Hall country Allen Hall #1729 from Fort Hall country - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:44:30 -0700 From: Allen Hall Subject: MtMan-List: Change the topic line Hello all, The current "gun control" issue doesn't have much to do with George W. How about changing the topic line? Thanks, Allen Hall Allen Hall #1729 from Fort Hall country - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 04:52:40 GMT From: "John Dearing" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: A & E and George Washington--alert only--not fordiscussion >But anyway, I don't see the point. >Nothing in that article suggests that California is trying to >universally disarm the state's legal gun owners. > I do believe the point of this reference was to illustrate how registering firearms, "just so the government would know who owned them" can be, and was used to find out where those firearms were, then forced the owners to turn them in or to become criminals. Any registration scheme can, and based on recent history, will be used for the purpose of confiscation. I do believe the Second Amendment contains the phrase "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", according to the Thordike Barnhart Dictionary, an infringement is anything that hinders, violates, encroaches upon, or intrudes upon, in this case, the lawful ownership of firearms. That means that the government does not have the legitimate authority to, in any way, restrict the ownership of firearms to it's law abiding citizens. J.D. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:45:36 -0800 From: bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur I don't have it, and don't have a way of getting it. He may be in the phone book: Glen Wood is Tree's other name. Or there may be someone out there reading this who can furnish it. I did send the number of Zack White on another missive. - -----Original Message----- From: Anne MacDonnald To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 7:53 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur >can you scare it up... i would greatly appreciate it. thanks anne > >Bill Cunningham wrote: > >> Someone else who has lots of rabbit furs for sale is Tree (AMM) down in >> Wichita Falls TX. I don't have his phone or address handy, but he usually >> has a ton or so of the things on hand and will ship. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Anne MacDonnald >> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >> Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 7:28 PM >> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur >> >> >Hi Cap, he is in the wilds of Ohio I think, some horridly cold place like >> >that. Thought to dig up some of my buckskinning url's but not sure >> >exactly where to send him... at this point all I know is that he needs the >> >stuff asap. Some sort of Valentine Day project. >> >thanks in advance... >> > >> >R Lahti wrote: >> > >> >> Anne MacDonnald wrote: >> >> > >> >> > hi all; >> >> > Not to change the subject or anything... >> >> >> >> Anne, >> >> >> >> Yea sure. Where is your friend located? It may be just as easy to >> >> put him onto a Leather House like Spokane Leather, Oregon Leather, >> >> Moscow Hide and Fur, etc. I remain.... >> >> >> >> YMOS >> >> Capt. Lahti' >> >> >> >> ---------------------- >> >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> > >> > >> >---------------------- >> >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >> >> ---------------------- >> hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:55:55 -0800 (PST) From: George Noe Subject: Re: MtMan-List: TREE WOOD"S PHONE NOMBER CHECK MY PREVIOUS POST RABBIT FUR Glen "Tree" Wood 940-586-1943 Wichita Falls TX. - --- Bill Cunningham wrote: > I don't have it, and don't have a way of getting it. > He may be in the phone > book: Glen Wood is Tree's other name. Or there may > be someone out there > reading this who can furnish it. I did send the > number of Zack White on > another missive. > -----Original Message----- > From: Anne MacDonnald > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > > Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 7:53 PM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur > > > >can you scare it up... i would greatly appreciate > it. thanks anne > > > >Bill Cunningham wrote: > > > >> Someone else who has lots of rabbit furs for sale > is Tree (AMM) down in > >> Wichita Falls TX. I don't have his phone or > address handy, but he usually > >> has a ton or so of the things on hand and will > ship. > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Anne MacDonnald > >> To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > > >> Date: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 7:28 PM > >> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: rabbit fur > >> > >> >Hi Cap, he is in the wilds of Ohio I think, some > horridly cold place > like > >> >that. Thought to dig up some of my > buckskinning url's but not sure > >> >exactly where to send him... at this point all I > know is that he needs > the > >> >stuff asap. Some sort of Valentine Day project. > >> >thanks in advance... > >> > > >> >R Lahti wrote: > >> > > >> >> Anne MacDonnald wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > hi all; > >> >> > Not to change the subject or anything... > > >> >> > >> >> Anne, > >> >> > >> >> Yea sure. Where is your friend located? It > may be just as easy to > >> >> put him onto a Leather House like Spokane > Leather, Oregon Leather, > >> >> Moscow Hide and Fur, etc. I remain.... > >> >> > >> >> YMOS > >> >> Capt. Lahti' > >> >> > >> >> ---------------------- > >> >> hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > >> > > >> > > >> >---------------------- > >> >hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > >> > >> ---------------------- > >> hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > > > >---------------------- > >hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: > http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:52:51 -0800 From: David Woodbury Subject: MtMan-List: Re: dead horse gun discussion At 4:52 AM +0000 12/29/99, John Dearing wrote: >I do believe the point of this reference was to illustrate how >registering firearms, "just so the government would know who owned >them" can be, and was used to find out where those firearms were, >then forced the owners to turn them in or to become criminals. Sorry to keep dragging this out, but the "point" of the reference was the concluding comment in the message to which I responded. Summing up the reference, Texan said: "What is happening in California is evidence of what is called encroachment, which has as its eventual goal the law abiding citizen being completely disarmed." Incidentally, if I read Texan's excerpt correctly, the only people being asked to turn in guns were those who already owned these so-called military style firearms, but who failed to register them in the 2+ years allotted. Whether or not you agree that the Attorney General had the authority to tell people they could register them after that 1992 date (evidently a court disagreed), the fact remains that the state of California allowed everyone to *keep* their weapons, except those who failed to meet the extraordinarily generous deadline (between 1989 and 1992, according to Texan's excerpt). >Any registration scheme can, and based on recent history, will be >used for the purpose of confiscation. Seems to me it is just the opposite. Is there anything you can point me to which shows a trend toward confiscating the registered weapons of citizens? The example used here deals with 1,600 guns that the owners originally failed to register by the deadline (I think the Johnny-come-latelys did get screwed, but they could easily have avoided the problem by complying with the law initially). But surely the millions of registered weapons in this country have remained legally secure in their owners' possession just as long as they were legally registered. What recent history are you referring to (admittedly, it's not something I follow very closely). >I do believe the Second Amendment contains the phrase "the right of >the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed", according >to the Thordike Barnhart Dictionary, an infringement is anything >that hinders, violates, encroaches upon, or intrudes upon, in this >case, the lawful ownership of firearms. And the courts, in light of the *entire* sentence (referencing militias), have consistently ruled that the amendment in no way suggests an inalienable personal right for a citizen to possess whatever weaponry they wish without some legislative constraints. >That means that the government does not have the legitimate >authority to, in any way, restrict the ownership of firearms to it's >law abiding citizens. That's one interpretation. Just not the one that most courts have arrived at. David - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 23:46:07 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Newbill Subject: MtMan-List: las vegas rendezvous (fwd) Good Day Ladies and Gents Just a "pass-on" message about a Rendezvous down south. - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: diane talbot Subject: las vegas rendezvous Rendezvous! Spring Mountain Free Trappers Feb 19th- 21st Cactus Springs NV (41 mi no. of Las Vegas on Highway 95) For more information call Naugamok at (702) 456-5736 (booshway) - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 04:12:59 EST From: NaugaMok@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: las vegas rendezvous (fwd) In a message dated 12/28/1999 11:46:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, lnewbill@uidaho.edu writes: << For more information call Naugamok at (702) 456-5736 (booshway) >> That'd be me! Email to "naugamok@aol.com" works too. Thanks for the "plug"! Kindly ask about our doin's off list please. NM - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:10:33 EST From: michael pierce Subject: MtMan-List: Re: dead horse gun discussion david and all---look at canada as we speak---nuff said dead horse---not a subject for the amm chat--- "HAWK" Michael Pierce 854 Glenfield Dr Palm harbor, florida 34684 E-mail: Hawknest4@juno.com web site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce/ ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:43:28 EST From: Huss931@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: over-trapping Angela, THANKS! I will look for both of those books. This is really an exciting period of study, isn't it? Yours, Steve - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 13:38:11 EST From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Coffee grinders Ho the list, Just when ya think all the dumb questions have been asked..... One of the items I got for being a good camper this year is a neat antique coffee grinder that stills works great. So.....my question is: How long have coffee grinders been around...... and how did the Mountain Men grind their coffee? I've tried using my rifle butt, or hawk, or a rock and wooden bowl, but there must be a better way. Hope everyone had a great Christmas, and have a Happy New Year! Ymos, Steve - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:08:18 -0800 From: R Lahti Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Coffee grinders SWcushing@aol.com wrote: > > Ho the list, > > Just when ya think all the dumb questions have been asked..... Steve, No dumb questions, just unasked questions. > > One of the items I got for being a good camper this year is a neat antique > coffee grinder that stills works great. So.....my question is: How long have > coffee grinders been around...... As long as there's been coffee to grind. and how did the Mountain Men grind their > coffee? Probably put roasted beans in a sack and pounded them with a hard object against another hard object or used an antique coffee grinder if someone hauled it to the Mountains. I've tried using my rifle butt, or hawk, or a rock and wooden bowl, > but there must be a better way. No better way unless you haul the grinder around with you. I personally don't think that was done but who knows. You want to haul it into camp, go ahead. Those that fresh roast their beans in camp just put them in a heavy sack and pound them with the side of their ax or between two rocks. Anything else requires you bring a special tool. Had a great Christmas and am looking forward to a great New Year in the Mountains! I remain.... YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:26:06 -0800 From: bcunningham@gwe.net (Bill Cunningham) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Coffee grinders It's been a long time since I've really tried to find good data on coffee during the fur trade, but it seems to me that when I was doing research in that or adjacent areas, water or tea was the most often mentioned non-alcoholic beverage. It made sense to me because tea is less bulky to pack, easier to prepare, and at that time, perhaps more readily available. Tea was also reputed to have some medicinal properties. Bill C - -----Original Message----- From: SWcushing@aol.com To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 10:39 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Coffee grinders >Ho the list, > >Just when ya think all the dumb questions have been asked..... > >One of the items I got for being a good camper this year is a neat antique >coffee grinder that stills works great. So.....my question is: How long have >coffee grinders been around...... and how did the Mountain Men grind their >coffee? I've tried using my rifle butt, or hawk, or a rock and wooden bowl, >but there must be a better way. > >Hope everyone had a great Christmas, and have a Happy New Year! > >Ymos, > >Steve > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 11:37:54 -0800 From: R Lahti Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Aphishamores ??? George Noe wrote: >=20 > In Terry C. Johnston's book "Blood Song". book 8 of > the series "THE PLAINSMEN" > I have found , > Aphishamores, the leather and canvas covers for the > pack saddles. George, I've enjoyed Terry's books too but I think he got this one wrong. In Osborne Russell's "Journal of a Trapper" he mentions many times taking the apishamores (which is the more common spelling, BTW) and using them as a base for his bed. Canvas tarps or leather hides used to cover whatever was on a pack saddle would not offer much insulation from the cold ground. But what he did use offered that insulation. A saddle pad or saddle blanket from under his saddle would give reprieve from the hard ground and would give insulation from the cold below. I found this definition through the net. apishamore n : a saddle blanket made of buffalo hide=20 Source: WordNet =AE 1.6, = =A9 1997 Princeton University It would be safe to assume that such was made from a buffalo hide with the hair still on, otherwise it could hardly be called a blanket nor would it give any padding as saddle blankets of woven construction give. The definition for aparejos from the same source is as follows. ap=B7a=B7re=B7jo (p-rh, -r)=20 n., pl. ap=B7a=B7re=B7jos. Southwestern U.S.=20 A packsaddle made of a stuffed leather pad. [American Spanish from Spanish equipment, from aparejos, to prepare, from Vulgar Latin *appariculre; see apparel.] This definition implies that the packsaddle was made of stuffed leather pads rather than just being the pads under the saddle but in practical use both may be true. Aparejos do seem to be different from apishamores though in their construction though they both serve the same basic function.=20 > Aparejos, saddle pads used beneath the mules' > wooden pack frames. So that definition is close but a bit misleading. Hope this clears things up a bit. I remain... YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:44:02 -0500 (EST) From: MedicineWolfe@webtv.net Subject: MtMan-List: Char Cloth Ho the list, some time ago ther was a thread about fire making and at one point some one gave instuctions on how to make char in an oven at home. I saved this message but at some point deleted it. Can anyone send this info. again? Contact off list if you want! Thanx in advance , Michael Anthony Wolfe Esq. http://community.webtv.net/MedicineWolfe/TheBuckskinnersCabin The road to progress is the path of fools!!! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:30:54 -0600 From: Jim Lindberg Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Char Cloth Gives off alot of smoke, I sure wouldn't do it inside. I usually do mine on the "weber." (outside). - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:40:27 +0000 From: rick_williams@byu.edu Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Fw: Address Request Fred Gowans 133 E. 1600 N. Orem, UT 84057 (801)226-8741 Fred just retired from teaching this year. He had some heart trouble recently but seems to have recovered OK. Regards Rick Rick_Williams@byu.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Ratcliff Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 2:34 AM To: AMM Cc: History List Subject: MtMan-List: Fw: Address Request > > Will you please forward this request to the A.M.M. list and the Drudy history > list. > > I am trying to locate a telephone number or an address for Fred R. Gowans, > author of Rocky Mountain Rendezvous. > > Thanks for your help. > I may be reached at Wind1838@aol.com > Laura Glise - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:51:37 +0000 From: rick_williams@byu.edu Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Aphishamores ??? Regarding these...Dick Patten in his new BOBVIII article talks about using a buffalo apishemore nad found that they rubbed his horses and mules bad. Have others found this to be the case nad what do they do instead? Rick - -----Original Message----- From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of George Noe Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 4:04 AM To: hist_ text Subject: MtMan-List: Aphishamores ??? In Terry C. Johnston's book "Blood Song". book 8 of the series "THE PLAINSMEN" I have found , Aphishamores, the leather and canvas covers for the pack saddles. Aparejos, saddle pads used beneath the mules' wooden pack frames. Just thought I wood pass this along as I raised the question earlier. grn ===== George R. Noe< gnoe39@yahoo.com > Watch your back trail, and keep your eyes on the skyline. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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