From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #522 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, April 19 2000 Volume 01 : Number 522 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Parched Corn -       Re: MtMan-List: ropes -       Re: MtMan-List: Parched Corn -       Re: MtMan-List: Mountain men...Heston - Thank you Hist_list members -       Re: MtMan-List: ropes -       MtMan-List: Museum of the Fur Trade -       MtMan-List: question?? new topic -       Re: MtMan-List: question?? new topic -       MtMan-List: Rope -       Re: MtMan-List: ropes -       Re: MtMan-List: ropes -       Re: MtMan-List: ropes -       Re: MtMan-List: ropes -       Re: MtMan-List: Mountain men...Heston - Thank you Hist_list members -       Re: MtMan-List: Museum of the Fur Trade -       Re: MtMan-List: ropes ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 06:47:39 -0400 From: "D Miles" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Parched Corn Ad, Buck Conner of Clark & Son's has some good parched Blue Corn.... It was a little high in salt for my taste, but after a rinsin and dryin', it was perfect.. I have been grinding it into "rockahominy" Damned gud stuuf, that... D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Period Knives & Iron Accoutrements http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 "Knowing how is just the beginning" - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:45:32 -0600 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------84179F2F9F5EB3D6000E6F13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jc60714@navix.net wrote: > Washtahay- > At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote: > >So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an old > >summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks to pay > >for our kindness, brother what an attraction. > >That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember this > >gentleman, originally from CA ? > sounds like Chuck Streeper. Maybe. > LongWalker c. du B. > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html Thank you - that's him, do you know if he's still involved? - --------------84179F2F9F5EB3D6000E6F13 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="conner1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for ƒÄ‹Ž¨ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="conner1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Conner;Barry x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ org:~ AMM ~ NRA ~ Lenape Society ~;* Chief factor,* reenactor,* history buff,* supplier. version:2.1 email;internet:conner1@uswest.net title:http://pages.about.com/buckconner/ adr;quoted-printable:;;Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc.=0D=0APO Box 28168=0D=0A13111 W. Alameda Pkwy #16;Lakewood;Colorado;80228;USA fn:Buck Conner end:vcard - --------------84179F2F9F5EB3D6000E6F13-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 05:48:14 -0600 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Parched Corn This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------6D112AF39B848DCFF46DA22B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Addison Miller wrote: > Ok... I give up. Tried making parched corn and all I got was burned > nuggets... Did as was suggested. Did not want to wait for ear corn to dry, > so I used frozen and put it in the dehydrator. After that, skillet with just > a bit of salt, and derned if I didn't burn it... GRRRRRRRRRRRR......... My > question is (finally)... Where the hell can I just buy some parched cord??? > > *grins* > > Thanks.... > > Ad Miller > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html We handle "blue parched corn", Clark & Sons Mercantile at: http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ later, Buck - --------------6D112AF39B848DCFF46DA22B Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="conner1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for ƒÄ‹Ž¨ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="conner1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Conner;Barry x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ org:~ AMM ~ NRA ~ Lenape Society ~;* Chief factor,* reenactor,* history buff,* supplier. version:2.1 email;internet:conner1@uswest.net title:http://pages.about.com/buckconner/ adr;quoted-printable:;;Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc.=0D=0APO Box 28168=0D=0A13111 W. Alameda Pkwy #16;Lakewood;Colorado;80228;USA fn:Buck Conner end:vcard - --------------6D112AF39B848DCFF46DA22B-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:22:48 -0500 From: Glenn Darilek Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mountain men...Heston - Thank you Hist_list members > > conner1@uswest.net wrote: > > Of course I saw a guy for the first time in 10-12 years a few weeks ago and he still looked and >dressed the same with the > chrome tanned skins and fringe as long as that Remington >mountainman. We invited him to a woodswalk, but got turned down > (campman), he would have >been hog-tied in the first 75-100 yards with his own fringe. You are criticising the length of the fringe, not the fringe, right? Alfred Jacob Miller drew plenty of fringe. Glenn Darilek Iron Burner - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 09:01:12 -0600 From: Joe Brandl Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes I know Chuck, will write about him later today if time permits Joe Have a look at our web site @ www.dteworld.com/absarokawesterndesign/ Call us about our tanning, furs & leather and lodgepole furniture 307-455-2440 New leather wildlife coasters and placemats - ther're great!! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:04:01 -0500 From: "Henry B. Crawford" Subject: MtMan-List: Museum of the Fur Trade >There's a new article by James A. Hanson, "The Myth of the Silk Hat and >the End >of the Rendezvous". Jim has learned his craft well following in >the footsteps of >his famous father, not only a skilled researcher but an >outstanding writer. Jim's PhD in History doesn't hurt either. :-) >To read this article friends you better be a member of the Museum of the >Fur >Trade ! Well it's about time to sign up and get this issue of their >"Quarterly" >journal, talk is cheap. Like the name implies "Quarterly" is the number of >>issues you'll receive for the grand sum of $10.00 For an additional 8 bucks get the 40 page history of the Museum, full of great color pix of pieces in the collection and a great narrative. Every member ought to have one. Allow some time, because Gail Potter the MFT Director is the only paid staff and, although she has volunteers, she has her hands pretty full. It's worth the wait. Order your membership now and get the invitation to this years annual Chadron Fur Trade Days rondy. I just spoke to Gail and she says they're expecting a pretty large camp. Cheers, HBC ********************************** Henry B. Crawford Curator of History Museum of Texas Tech University Box 43191 Lubbock, TX 79409-3191 mxhbc@ttacs.ttu.edu 806/742-2442 FAX 742-1136 Website: http://www.ttu.edu/~museum *** Living History . . . Because It's There *** - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:43:40 -0400 From: "John Hunt" Subject: MtMan-List: question?? new topic Greetings knowledgeable list members, esteemed friends, ect, ect. I got a question to ask. Last nite at work I was talking to an outside contractor about our hobby "life style". He was telling me he has several hundred acres in southeast ohio. He was walking with a timber buyer. There are "numerous caves and over hangs" on the property, they were looking at some of them. Inside of several the timberbuyer pointed out some marks on the rocks and told the owner that these marks were used by the Indians in a manner that we use a road map today. He called them "navigational aids". Their were very faint traces of coloring left. Now the question. Has anyone ever heard of this or was hot air being blown up someone`s butt? The land owner said the timber buyer talked quite a bit about this but the conversation was above his understanding on this subject. John (BIG JOHN) Hunt Longhunter Mountainman southwest Ohio - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:53:32 -0400 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: question?? new topic Gee... sounds like a great place for a Ronny!!!!! Ad Miller He was telling me he has several > hundred acres in southeast ohio. He was walking with a timber buyer. There > are "numerous caves and over hangs" on the property, they were looking at > some of them. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 01:23:47 -0600 From: "Wynn & Gretchen Ormond" Subject: MtMan-List: Rope This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFA99D.E9660480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mr Conner wrote: Chuck can't remember his last name - Striker maybe, use to write for = Baird years ago in Buckskin Report, did an article on fur trade rope, Hanson though he did pretty good, I'll look for that too,=20 If I could get a copy of that also I would be obliged. I have wondered = if the manilla stuff they sell now days was acceptable for horse packing = and long ties. Kinda hate to put a hard to make or expensive horse hair = or rawhide rope to such rough useage. YMOS WY =20 - ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFA99D.E9660480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mr Conner wrote:
 
Chuck can't remember his last name - = Striker maybe,=20 use to write for Baird
years ago in Buckskin Report, did an article = on fur=20 trade rope, Hanson
though he did pretty good, I'll look for that too, =
 
If I could get a copy of that also I = would be=20 obliged.  I have wondered if the manilla stuff they sell now days = was=20 acceptable for horse packing and long ties.  Kinda hate to put = a hard=20 to make or expensive horse hair or rawhide rope to such rough=20 useage.
 
YMOS
WY
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01BFA99D.E9660480-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:16:33 -0500 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes - --=====================_50168627==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81 or '82? If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and=20 panniers (packs). every horse had its saddle. He could pack or ride any=20 horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly along the= =20 trail. Clever solutions not high tech. Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met. John... At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote: >Washtahay- >At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote: > >So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an= old > >summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks to= pay > >for our kindness, brother what an attraction. > >That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember= this > >gentleman, originally from CA ? > sounds like Chuck Streeper. Maybe. >LongWalker c. du B. John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0 Kramer's Best Antique Improver >>>It makes wood wonderful<<< =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<< mail to: - --=====================_50168627==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81 or '82?

If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and panniers (packs).  every horse had its saddle.  He could pack or ride any horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly along the trail.  Clever solutions not high tech.

Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.

John...


At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
Washtahay-
At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
>So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an old
>summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks to pay
>for our kindness, brother what an attraction.
>That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember this
>gentleman, originally from CA ?
        sounds like Chuck Streeper.  Maybe.
LongWalker c. du B.

John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0

Kramer's Best Antique Improver
>>>It makes wood wonderful<<<
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<<


mail to: <kramer@kramerize.com>
- --=====================_50168627==_.ALT-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:48:13 -0600 From: "Ole B. Jensen" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - --MS_Mac_OE_3039007693_58693_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable John, I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up at Hickerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a Beautiful Horse about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to your camp in the bend of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy! YMOS Ole - ---------- From: John Kramer To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes Date: Wed, Apr 19, 2000, 2:16 PM Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81 or '82? If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and panniers (packs). every horse had its saddle. He could pack or ride any horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly along the trail. Clever solutions not high tech. Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met. John... At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote: Washtahay- At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote: >So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an old >summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks to p= ay >for our kindness, brother what an attraction. >That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember this >gentleman, originally from CA ? sounds like Chuck Streeper. Maybe. LongWalker c. du B. John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0 Kramer's Best Antique Improver >>>It makes wood wonderful<<< =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<< > mail to: - --MS_Mac_OE_3039007693_58693_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: MtMan-List: ropes John,
I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up at Hic= kerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a Beautiful Hors= e about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to your camp in the bend= of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy!
YMOS
Ole
- ----------
From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
Date: Wed, Apr 19, 2000, 2:16 PM


Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81 o= r '82?

If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and pann= iers (packs).  every horse had its saddle.  He could pack or ride = any horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly along t= he trail.  Clever solutions not high tech.

Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.

John...


At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
Washtahay-
At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
>So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an = old
>summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks t= o pay
>for our kindness, brother what an attraction.
>That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember t= his
>gentleman, originally from CA ?
        sounds like Chuck Streeper.=  Maybe.
LongWalker c. du B.

John T. Kramer, maker of:=A0

Kramer's Best Antique Improver
>>>It makes wood wonderful<<<
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 >>>As good as old!<<<

<http://www.kramerize.com/ <http://www.kramerize.com/> >

mail to: <kramer@kramerize.com> <= BR>
- --MS_Mac_OE_3039007693_58693_MIME_Part-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:42:11 -0400 From: tipis@mediaone.net Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes - --------------163566669614FDB09488E871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is he the one with the dogs that traveled along with him? He has a cabin in Wyoming or MOntana and lives like a Mountain Man??? Holley "Ole B. Jensen" wrote: > John, > I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up > at Hickerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a > Beautiful Horse about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to > your camp in the bend of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy! > YMOS > Ole > ---------- > From: John Kramer > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes > Date: Wed, Apr 19, 2000, 2:16 PM > > > > Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in > '81 or '82? > > If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd > made) and panniers (packs). every horse had its saddle. He > could pack or ride any horse and saddle with the same > equipment or switch packs quickly along the trail. Clever > solutions not high tech. > > Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met. > > John... > > > At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote: > > Washtahay- > At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote: > >So visiting with him for several days he started > making rope out of an old > >summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample > and gave history talks to pay > >for our kindness, brother what an attraction. > >That's where the piece came from that I have, > anyone know or remember this > >gentleman, originally from CA ? > sounds like Chuck Streeper. Maybe. > > LongWalker c. du B. > > John T. Kramer, maker of: > > Kramer's Best Antique Improver > >>>It makes wood wonderful<<< > >>>As good as old!<<< > > > > > mail to: > > - --------------163566669614FDB09488E871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is he the one with the dogs that traveled along with him?  He has a cabin in Wyoming or MOntana and lives like a Mountain Man???

Holley

"Ole B. Jensen" wrote:

John,
I think this is the guy who rode into the Western NMLRA nationals up at Hickerson Park outside of Manilla Ut. I think it was 1982, had a Beautiful Horse about 17 hands tall. He is the one that rode over to your camp in the bend of the road and let me ride it. Nice guy!
YMOS
Ole
----------
From: John Kramer <kramer@kramerize.com>
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes
Date: Wed, Apr 19, 2000, 2:16 PM
 
 
Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81 or '82?

If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and panniers (packs).  every horse had its saddle.  He could pack or ride any horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly along the trail.  Clever solutions not high tech.

Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.

John...
 

At 10:32 PM 4/18/00 -0500, you wrote:

Washtahay-
At 08:58 PM 4/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
>So visiting with him for several days he started making rope out of an old
>summer buffalo hide, cut it into 6-8 in sample and gave history talks to pay
>for our kindness, brother what an attraction.
>That's where the piece came from that I have, anyone know or remember this
>gentleman, originally from CA ?
        sounds like Chuck Streeper.  Maybe.
LongWalker c. du B.

John T. Kramer, maker of:

Kramer's Best Antique Improver
>>>It makes wood wonderful<<<
        >>>As good as old!<<<

<http://www.kramerize.com/ <http://www.kramerize.com/> >

mail to: <kramer@kramerize.com>
 

- --------------163566669614FDB09488E871-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:48:09 -0600 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------164E35C3E06D4B86262B9351 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------21083336D09C4258B39634B9" - --------------21083336D09C4258B39634B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Kramer wrote: > Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in > '81 or '82? > > If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles > (he'd made) and panniers (packs). every horse had its > saddle. He could pack or ride any horse and saddle with > the same equipment or switch packs quickly along the > trail. Clever solutions not high tech. > > Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met. > > John... That's him John, the date was 1982, he would ride each horse approx. 4 hours then switch very quickly to the fresh animal. He said when he rode the last horse for its period of time, it was time to setup camp after a 12 hour day. Like you say pretty slick. Later Buck - --------------21083336D09C4258B39634B9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Kramer wrote:
Would this be the guy that rode into Fort Bridger back in '81 or '82?

If so he had a very well thought out system of saddles (he'd made) and panniers (packs).  every horse had its saddle.  He could pack or ride any horse and saddle with the same equipment or switch packs quickly along the trail.  Clever solutions not high tech.

Interesting and knowledgeable fellow that I met.

John...

That's him John, the date was 1982, he would ride each horse approx. 4 hours then switch very quickly to the fresh animal. He said when he rode the last horse for its period of time, it was time to setup camp after a 12 hour day. Like you say pretty slick.

Later
Buck - --------------21083336D09C4258B39634B9-- - --------------164E35C3E06D4B86262B9351 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="conner1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for ƒÄ‹Ž¨ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="conner1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Conner;Barry x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ org:~ AMM ~ NRA ~ Lenape Society ~;* Chief factor,* reenactor,* history buff,* supplier. version:2.1 email;internet:conner1@uswest.net title:http://pages.about.com/buckconner/ adr;quoted-printable:;;Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc.=0D=0APO Box 28168=0D=0A13111 W. Alameda Pkwy #16;Lakewood;Colorado;80228;USA fn:Buck Conner end:vcard - --------------164E35C3E06D4B86262B9351-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:52:16 -0600 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Mountain men...Heston - Thank you Hist_list members This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------BE9C9CB2C68553B25C661292 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Glenn Darilek wrote: > > > conner1@uswest.net wrote: > > > > Of course I saw a guy for the first time in 10-12 years a few weeks ago and he still looked and >dressed the same with the > > chrome tanned skins and fringe as long as that Remington >mountainman. We invited him to a woodswalk, but got turned down > > (campman), he would have >been hog-tied in the first 75-100 yards with his own fringe. > > You are criticising the length of the fringe, not the fringe, right? Alfred Jacob Miller drew plenty of fringe. > > Glenn Darilek > Iron Burner > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html Iron Burner, 12-18 in long fringe won't work in buck brush or berry patches, the fringe is fine, the length was not workable. later Buck - --------------BE9C9CB2C68553B25C661292 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="conner1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for ƒÄ‹Ž¨ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="conner1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Conner;Barry x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ org:~ AMM ~ NRA ~ Lenape Society ~;* Chief factor,* reenactor,* history buff,* supplier. version:2.1 email;internet:conner1@uswest.net title:http://pages.about.com/buckconner/ adr;quoted-printable:;;Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc.=0D=0APO Box 28168=0D=0A13111 W. Alameda Pkwy #16;Lakewood;Colorado;80228;USA fn:Buck Conner end:vcard - --------------BE9C9CB2C68553B25C661292-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:05:09 -0600 From: Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Museum of the Fur Trade This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------C6268FC7AE481BBEA30D0242 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Order your membership now and get the invitation to this years annual Chadron > Fur Trade Days rondy. I just spoke to Gail and she says they're expecting a > pretty large camp. > > Cheers, > HBC > > ********************************** > Henry B. Crawford I understand it will not be on that river bottom, but on good ground - that silt killed everyone and took lots of work after getting home to clean it out of your gear. They do a good job with their rendezvous, put it on your list of things to do. later Buck - --------------C6268FC7AE481BBEA30D0242 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="conner1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for ƒÄ‹Ž¨ Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="conner1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Conner;Barry x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.teleport.com/~walking/clark/ org:~ AMM ~ NRA ~ Lenape Society ~;* Chief factor,* reenactor,* history buff,* supplier. version:2.1 email;internet:conner1@uswest.net title:http://pages.about.com/buckconner/ adr;quoted-printable:;;Clark & Sons Mercantile, Inc.=0D=0APO Box 28168=0D=0A13111 W. Alameda Pkwy #16;Lakewood;Colorado;80228;USA fn:Buck Conner end:vcard - --------------C6268FC7AE481BBEA30D0242-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:40:20 -0600 From: tetontodd@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ropes Mike, I've done a bit of research on rope. I came to the conclusion that the majority of rope used in the east and supplied in St. Louis was hemp. Remember that hemp was a huge cash crop in those days for just that purpose, the making of course cloth and rope. Flax ropes were also used, but not to the extent of hemp. The rope we know as Manila was so named because it came from the Phillipines. It was made from "Manila Hemp" which is actually a plant known as Abaca. Abaca is related to the Banana. The leaves are long an fiburous. How much it was imported is hard to discover. I would tend to think it was not as common as domestic hemp rope. Sisal is related to agave and was used in Central America and Mexico. It doesn't appear to have been an important export until after it was introduced to Africa in the late 1800's. Tanzania became a large exporeter of sisal and still is. You really can't beat a good hemp rope. My friends and i have had much fun making it, Fortunatly it isn't hard to find hemp twine nowadays, and it's easy to make a rope from it. I believe that the mountaineers used animal hides to make rope from if they didn't have access to rope from the settlements. My 2 cents "Teton" Todd D. Glover Poison River Party Pilgrim - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #522 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.