From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #746 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, February 13 2001 Volume 01 : Number 746 In this issue: -       MtMan-List: Re: Computer Virus Dangers -       MtMan-List: Computer virus -       Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from a Friend! -       Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       Re: MtMan-List: Book -       Re: MtMan-List: Darwin award -       MtMan-List: On the road..... -       RE: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       RE: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       RE: MtMan-List: Darwin award -       RE: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from a Friend! -       Re: MtMan-List: On the road..... -       Re: MtMan-List: Darwin award -       Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus -       Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from a Friend! -       Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from a Friend! -       MtMan-List: OT: Darwin Award for viruses -       MtMan-List: Music to build guns by -       Re: MtMan-List: Darwin award -       Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:57:47 -0800 From: Pat Quilter Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Computer Virus Dangers With respect to Fred Miller's remarks below: It's even worse than he says. We use Microsoft Outlook at our company. I have received an email which took me AUTOMATICALLY to a web site when opened. If it can do that, it can run an executable without warning and without opening an enclosure. Therefore, resisting enclosures, although safer, is not a perfect defense. I pay attention to his remarks. Pat Quilter. (Fred sez) I'll put my Systems Admin. hat on for a min. If you don't want to be hit with a virus or a Cracker breaking into your 'puter, the BEST thing you can do is replace WinBloze with Linux, the SuSE distro is the best, IMHO. If you're not inclined to do that, then simply DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES open any file attachements....PERIOD, you WON'T get hit with a virus! Install ZoneAlarm for security. It's not a guarantee, but it's better than nothing. Yes, EVERYTHING from MicroSoft is VERY badly designed and written, but you DON'T have to invite trouble! Now I'll go back to my corner where it's nice and quiet. :) Fred - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:16:19 -0600 From: "Best, Dianne" Subject: MtMan-List: Computer virus Yup, our company's anti-virus software is so damned sophisticated that you can't even receive an executable file if it has been renamed to something else. The software is "Trend OfficeScan" and it recognizes something in the code and wont even accept the attachment from the Net - it just blows it away - which is a pain when it is legit software.... We used to have MacAfee, until the "Love Bug" got through and took our corporate network of 4,000 users down for the better part of a week! Usually, around here, it takes forever to get anything new approved, purchased, and delivered. Sure is funny how quick we got new anti-virus software! Keep warm! Spring will come eventually.... Jin-o-ta-ka (Dianne) - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:34:02 EST From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from a Friend! With regard to cookies and their ilk, I don't know about ZoneAlarm, but there is a program call AdSubtract which filters cookies, referrers, Java script, ads, pop-up windows, etc etc, and lets you set up the configuration to allow/disallow whatever you want. You can also clean all this junk out or leave that which is necessary. Its available from PcMag.com, and thh basic version is FREE, the pro version is $29.95 IIRC, and it will stop TONS of junk from getting on your system, or slowing down the loading of pages with ads. I've been using it for a couple of months, and when I check the log I'm astounded at how much junk is filtered from being placed on my system. Barney - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:36:56 EST From: LivingInThePast@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus In a message dated 2/13/01 9:46:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, pat_quilter@qscaudio.com writes: << Some systems appear to have deleted the enclosure automatically. >> yep, those running up-to-date virus scanners, and also those which do NOT use MickeySoft mailer programs like outlook and outlook express. Maybe the only saving grace to AOL is the fact that these type of mail-borne infections don't work with their mail program. Barn - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:40:30 EST From: ThisOldFox@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus > I saw the .jpg, thought > it was OK, and opened it only to watch my machine go crazy sending messages > to everyone on my address book. It's obvious we're going to have to use > enclosures less, and identify them better, because careful users will simply > have to discard them. An alternative to prevent the spread of these things is to keep all your email addresses and passwords in a simple text file, instead of in your address book. At least that way, if you do get hit with the virus, it won't self replicate and send itself on to all your friends. Almost all computers have the ability to multitask. Just open the text file when sending email. Clip the addresses whom you are going to send email to, and paste them into the "Send to:" line of your message. Erase all the addresses in your address book. They are the source of replication for all these worm type viruses. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:03:52 -0700 From: "Rich DuPree" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus >An alternative to prevent the spread of these things is to keep all your >email addresses and passwords in a simple text file, instead of in your >address book. Another suggestion is to associate script files (.vbs, .js, etc.) with a text editor so in the case you accidently open the script file, the text of the script is displayed in your text editor instead of actually running. Regards, Rich _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:07:50 -0600 From: Jim Lindberg Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus Sorry, couldn't resist: Sven and Ole here, Yew have yust received da Sven & Ole Computer Virus. Because ve don't know how to program computers, dis virus verks on da honor system. Please delete all da files on yewr hard drive manually and forward dis message to everyvon on yewr mailing list. Tank yew fer yewr cooperation. Sven and Ole - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 14:21:16 -0600 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus Though my UP-TO-DATE copy of Norton missed the Anna virus completely; my addresses were safe as I use Eudora instead of Outlook. Eudora is free. I had good success controlling cookies selectively with a program called InterMute before my systems got FUBARed trying to upgrade a year ago. I'm still dealing with the mess. Haven't had stable enough hardware to learn all the new Linux software to dump WinDoze. Thanks Mr. Bill. Dante has reserved a special circle of hell just for you. And I thought Pat was sending me some dirty pictures, damn. John... _________________________________________________ And it came to pass, that in the later days it was first whispered in the dead of night, then rumored and storied and finally fully known throughout all the lands and across the seas and on all the planets of the then known universe, by high born and low, free holder & serf', that Mr Bill is the ancient legendary, prophesied and true; one and only; undisputed; first original certified genuine; -- Rosemary's Baby. from: "The History of the Future Past"; Vol. 6, Chap. 6, Page 6; by SZR - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:33:50 -0800 From: Linda Holley Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus Thanks for the Sven and Ole joke. Have not heard a good one since the La Junta 1978 rend. Love those guys. Always laugh and you did it with such a good accent. Linda Holley Jim Lindberg wrote: > Sorry, couldn't resist: > > Sven and Ole here, > > Yew have yust received da Sven & Ole Computer Virus. > Because ve don't know how to program computers, dis virus verks > on da honor system. Please delete all da files on yewr hard drive > manually and forward dis message to everyvon on yewr mailing list. > > Tank yew fer yewr cooperation. > > Sven and Ole > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:06:24 -0000 From: "Bill Jackson" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Book Ho, Dennis, hope you like the book, I have read several of Johnston's books, will look fo Wind Walker. MadJack >From: "D. Miles" >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: MtMan-List: Book >Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:21:38 -0500 > >Well, I just got back from the library... Picked up >"Wind Walker" (the final saga of Titus Bass) from Terry C Johnston. > I am supposed to be building a pipe hawk today.. Decisions, >decisions.. >D > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:02:10 -0800 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Darwin award I think he was from the South somewhere.... >>Couldn't have been. Not possible ! Pendleton - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:02:02 -0800 (PST) From: mitch post Subject: MtMan-List: On the road..... To all concerned-I'll be on the road starting Friday 16Feb01, for about 6 weeks. Headed to Oregon for Horse Ridge Rendevous then to Alabama-after that I'll be at SW Regional Rend. in Arkansas. Then probably to the Wisconsin area to work with Ray Glazner-Images of the Past. Will set my email "groups" to no-mail-I'll check messages to this address as I can on the road. Thanks for your time and consideration in this matter. Sincerely,Mitch Post Red Dog Trading Co./Hiparoo Hats ===== "RIDE THE HIGH TRAIL-NEVER TUCK YOUR TAIL" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:39:22 -0600 From: Todd Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Computer virus FYI. VBS is a visual basic script. This is executable code, meaning = if you click on it, it's going to run. MicroSoft systems automatically = know how to execute this kind of code, and you've just launched a = hackers attack at your box. Unless one of your friends is a = programmer, they probably wouldn't be sending you VBS, and even if they = ARE programmers, they'll probably use something else. VBS is a = preferred language for teenage hackers. It's simple, efficient, and = runs on any MicroSoft machine. =20 Any more, I have to be expecting something from one of my friends, or = it HAS to be in a recognized format, and even then, I scan it. Anymore, = that even includes pictures in bmp or jog format. I work for a software company, and the kind of crap that people are = coming up with is pretty impressive from a technical point of view. = From a personal point of view, these people ought to be drawn and = quartered. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Pat Quilter > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:36 AM > To: 'hist_text@lists.xmission.com' > Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Computer virus >=20 >=20 > I (the sucker in this latest round) will augment John's remarks.=20 > I received > the virus from a trusted, computer literate relative who=20 > occasionally sends > me "cute" messages. My guard was down. The latest trick is to=20 > label the file > enclosure something.jpg.vbs, often using enough characters so that the > executable tag (.vbs) scrolls off your title screen. I saw the=20 > .jpg, thought > it was OK, and opened it only to watch my machine go crazy=20 > sending messages > to everyone on my address book. It's obvious we're going to have to = use > enclosures less, and identify them better, because careful users=20 > will simply > have to discard them.=20 > My apologies to the list if you got hit. Some systems appear to=20 > have deleted > the enclosure automatically. > Pat Quilter.=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: John L. Allen [mailto:jlallen@wyoming.com] > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 9:30 PM > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: MtMan-List: Computer virus >=20 >=20 > Ho, the list. >=20 > This seems like a good time to remind everyone: >=20 > NEVER open a file attachment from someone you don't know. In=20 > order to affect > your systems viruses must be executable files (.exe is most=20 > common but there > are others). The best way to avoid a virus (after, of course,=20 > installing an > anti-virus system AND keeping it updated) is to just delete = attachments > unless you are absolutely certain they are legitimate and from someone = you > know and trust. >=20 > Free advice is usually worth just what you pay for it--but forewarned = is > forearmed and this falls into the category of watching the=20 > skyline and your > back trail. >=20 > John >=20 > Dr. John L. Allen > 2703 Leslie Court > Laramie, WY 82072-2979 > Phone: (307) 742-0883 > Fax: (307) 742-0886 > e-mail: jlallen@wyoming.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >=20 > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >=20 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:41:29 -0600 From: Todd Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Computer virus 'Nother FYI. If you are using Outlook, like I am, TURN OFF the preview = pane option. That opens an email, and COULD potentially launch a vbs. = Not saying it will, but the potential is there. We were recommended = to turn this off at our company after the LoveBug hit one of our branch = offices. =3D) Odd thing, in the engineering building, where I work, = we promptly disassembled the virus, and there was a critique of how = slppy the code was on one of our discussion boards. Sloppy or no, it = worked. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of > LivingInThePast@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 12:37 PM > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus >=20 >=20 > In a message dated 2/13/01 9:46:38 AM Pacific Standard Time,=20 > pat_quilter@qscaudio.com writes: >=20 > << Some systems appear to have deleted the enclosure automatically. >> >=20 > yep, those running up-to-date virus scanners, and also those=20 > which do NOT use=20 > MickeySoft mailer programs like outlook and outlook express. =20 > Maybe the only=20 > saving grace to AOL is the fact that these type of mail-borne = infections=20 > don't work with their mail program. Barn >=20 > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >=20 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:45:42 -0600 From: Todd Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Darwin award All joking aside, this is just grand. Just what we need to get the = anti-gunners howling at the BP crowd again. Who let the stupid people = into our society anyhoo?!? Most muzzleloaders I've met tend to be more = responsible than that. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of larry = pendleton > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:02 PM > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Darwin award >=20 >=20 > I think he was from the South somewhere.... >=20 > >>Couldn't have been. Not possible ! >=20 > Pendleton >=20 >=20 > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >=20 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:50:08 -0600 From: Todd Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from a Friend! Does it run under Winders? > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-hist_text@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of TrapRJohn > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:05 AM > To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from = a > Friend! >=20 >=20 > Hallo Brothers, > Here is the link to Zone Alarm. http://www.zonelabs.com/ You may = be > interested to know that this is the only firewall program that blocks > outgoing messages from advertising robots in your 'puter that=20 > send out your > personal information. I've been using it for over a month, and=20 > you would be > surprised at the stuff that goes in and out of your 'puter with out = your > knowledge, until you install Zone Alarm. For what it's worth, I=20 > think it is > a great program!!! Good Luck Brothers. > John Enos > TrapRJohn - YMHS - traprjon@mediaone.net - AMM - White Mountain Party > "Don't Compromise Your Civil Rights, They are Yours! Stand Up for = What's > Right!" -- TrapRJohn, Free Trapper -- > "No Free Man Shall Ever be Debarred the Use of Arms!" -- Thomas > Jefferson -- > "The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance!" -- General John Stark -- > "Any People that would give up Liberty for a Little Temporary Safety, > Deserves Neither Liberty nor Safety!" -- Benjamin Franklin -- >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Addison Miller" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:03 AM > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from = a > Friend! >=20 >=20 > > Install ZoneAlarm for security. > > > > Fred > > > > Where can I find Zone Alarm?? > > > > Ad Miller > > > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >=20 >=20 > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: = http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html >=20 - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 18:43:03 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: On the road..... Mitch, You going to lay out in the snow with us this weekend? I been thinking about making it down to Horse Ridge later. Capt. Lahti' > To all concerned-I'll be on the road starting Friday > 16Feb01, for about 6 weeks. Headed to Oregon for Horse > Ridge Rendevous - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 19:00:34 -0800 From: Lee Newbill Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Darwin award > I think he was from the South somewhere.... > > >>Couldn't have been. Not possible ! Actually, it appears our stalwart genius was from New Jersey, and the fatal shot was his second attempt. He had fired a blank load at close range at another partygoer with a .44 bp revolver just before he shot and killed his roommate with the bp rifle & cigarette butts. Naturally, there was a bit of alcohol involved with the stupidity. The story is at http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/jokedeath010213.html Regards from Idaho Lee Newbill - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:28:09 -0500 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus "Best, Dianne" wrote: > > Yup, our company's anti-virus software is so damned sophisticated that you > can't even receive an executable file if it has been renamed to something > else. The software is "Trend OfficeScan" and it recognizes something in the > code and wont even accept the attachment from the Net - it just blows it > away - which is a pain when it is legit software.... > > We used to have MacAfee, until the "Love Bug" got through and took our > corporate network of 4,000 users down for the better part of a week! > Usually, around here, it takes forever to get anything new approved, > purchased, and delivered. Sure is funny how quick we got new anti-virus > software! > > Keep warm! Spring will come eventually.... MOST virus' spread via MickySoft's Outlook and Outlook express. The use of a different mailer would have SAVED your Co. from affecting 4,000 users. Replacing M$ with Linux would eliminate ALL risk. Fred - -- Failure is not an option, it comes pre-installed with your Windoze software. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:29:13 -0500 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus LivingInThePast@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/13/01 9:46:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, > pat_quilter@qscaudio.com writes: > > << Some systems appear to have deleted the enclosure automatically. >> > > yep, those running up-to-date virus scanners, and also those which do NOT use > MickeySoft mailer programs like outlook and outlook express. Maybe the only > saving grace to AOL is the fact that these type of mail-borne infections > don't work with their mail program. Barn That's "Lookout" not "Outlook." :) Fred - -- Failure is not an option, it comes pre-installed with your Windoze software. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:36:15 -0500 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus Todd wrote: > > FYI. VBS is a visual basic script. This is executable code, meaning if you click on it, it's going to run. MicroSoft systems automatically know how to execute this kind of code, and you've just launched a hackers attack at your box. Unless one of your friends is a programmer, they probably wouldn't be sending you VBS, and even if they ARE programmers, they'll probably use something else. VBS is a preferred language for teenage hackers. It's simple, efficient, and runs on any MicroSoft machine. > Any more, I have to be expecting something from one of my friends, or it HAS to be in a recognized format, and even then, I scan it. Anymore, that even includes pictures in bmp or jog format. > I work for a software company, and the kind of crap that people are coming up with is pretty impressive from a technical point of view. From a personal point of view, these people ought to be drawn and quartered. > Be advised that VERY soon, IMHO, virus' will come in the form of HTLM mail. It's just that no one has sent a virus out in this manner yet. Many mailers don't have a provision to turn off HTML display of incoming mail, that is PLAIN TEXT ONLY. And, once again, the attack will be targeted for MickySoft systems. Fred - -- Failure is not an option, it comes pre-installed with your Windoze software. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:40:50 -0500 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from a Friend! Addison Miller wrote: > > Install ZoneAlarm for security. > > > Fred > > Where can I find Zone Alarm?? Here's the site: http://www.zonelabs.com Fred - -- Failure is not an option, it comes pre-installed with your Windoze software. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:43:03 -0500 From: "Fred A. Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Fw: AMM-List: Computer Virus Information from a Friend! "Paul W. Jones" wrote: > > TrapRJohn: > > Thanks for the posting about Zone Alarm. Have been looking for a good > firewall program and intend to check this one out. However, I have a > question. As some of the personal info that goes out relates to on-going > relationships, for example, I pay several of my credit cards on-line, and > the bank computers need to verify certain info from my account which is > stored on "cookies" in my computer, or when I buy a book from Amazon their > computer uses "cookies" about my account when I am paying for a > purchase-----can you pick and choose which cookies you let go out (and in) > as I do not wish to disrupt this type of computer/account? Paul, Zonealarm will ask you if it's "OK" for a given site to communicate with your "box." You can either answer yes each time, or you can make "rule" (check box) so you don't have to each time.....simple. Fred - -- Failure is not an option, it comes pre-installed with your Windoze software. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:40:28 -0700 From: Angela Gottfred Subject: MtMan-List: OT: Darwin Award for viruses I got an e-mail this morning that consisted of an attachment and nothing else. The subject heading? "Please open--virus warning." If it really was a virus warning (which I doubt! I didn't know the sender), the sender richly deserves a Darwin Award; the subject & method of sending (an attachment, instead of plain text) guaranteed that it got deleted & trashed immediately. I would have done trashed _that_ one even if it came from my mother... And if it really is a virus, anyone who gets infected deserves whatever havoc it might wreak. Darwin Awards either way! Your humble & obedient servant, Angela Gottfred - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:56:06 -0700 From: Angela Gottfred Subject: MtMan-List: Music to build guns by What do you listen to for inspiration at home, or on your way to an event? Now that we're in the February doldrums, I thought I might suggest some songs from a kind of sub-genre of modern folk music--songs on historic subjects, often written in an historic style. Since this stuff is outside of the mainstream of radio play, and isn't sold by sutlers, I thought list members might be interested. Songs marked * are highly recommended. PIRATE ANTHEM * "Traighli Bay" (about happy, successful pirates) by Tanglefoot, on their CD _Saturday Night in Hardwood Lake_ COLONIAL * "Awkward Donald" (about a clumsy man's unlikely courtship) by Tanglefoot, on their CD _The Music in the Wood_ * "Let the Piper Play" (about Scottish emigrants sailing to Halifax in 1770), by Tanglefoot on _Full-Throated Abandon_ * "Maid on the Shore" (traditional), by Stan Rogers, on _Fogarty's Cove_ AMERICAN REVOLUTION * "Loyal She Remains" (about Loyalist refugees), by Tamarack, on _Frobisher Bay_ * "Barrett's Privateers" (about an ill-fated Canadian privateer), by Stan Rogers, on _Between the Breaks...Live!_ and _Fogarty's Cove_ "Fire and Guns" (heartbreaker about Loyalist refugees), by Tanglefoot, on _Saturday Night in Hardwood Lake_ "Le Sargent" (about Quebeckers fighting for the Patriots--mostly in French), by Tamarack on CD _Leaving Inverarden_ VOYAGEURS & FUR TRADE * "La V'la M'amie" (traditional voyageur song) by Tanglefoot on _The Music in the Wood_ * "Northwest Passage" (about fur trade explorers, but an inspiration to all reenactors!), by Stan Rogers on _Northwest Passage_ "Chippewa Smile" (about a fur trader's love for his Ojibway country wife), by Tamarack on _13_ "Red River Carts", by Tamarack on _13_ "Leaving Inverarden" (about Nor'wester John Macdonald of Garth), by Tamarack on _Leaving Inverarden_ "Magdalen McGillivray" (Scottish wife of North West Company head, William McGillivray), by Tamarack on _Leaving Inverarden_ "Loup Garou" by Tanglefoot on _The Music in the Wood_ WAR OF 1812 * "Secord's Warning" (about Canadian heroine Laura Secord, but an inspiration to all Canadians and female reenactors of 1812), by Tanglefoot, on _The Music in the Wood_ * "The Nancy" (a Great Lakes schooner which took part in two naval engagements), by Stan Rogers, on _From Fresh Water_ * "Our White Man's Word" (about the burning of the longhouses), by Tamarack, on _On the Grand_ * "Pawpine" (about a slave who fought for the Crown in 1774 & 1812), by Tamarack, on _On the Grand_ "The Virginia Brand" (about an ex-soldier(?) and another soldier's widow), by Tamarack, on _On the Grand_ "Billy Green" (about a civilian Canadian hero), by Stan Rogers, on _From Coffee House to Concert Hall_ "MacDonnell on the Heights" (about Gen. Brock's successor at the Battle of Queenston Heights), by Stan Rogers, on _From Fresh Water_ Where can you buy the CDs? Tamarack: http://www.sentex.net/%7Egormorse/JamesGordon.html and http://www.interlog.com/~pmsinc/ Tanglefoot: http://www.tanglefootmusic.com/ The Rankins, Stan Rogers: www.hmv.com Any other suggestions? I'd love to hear 'em. Your humble & obedient servant, Angela Gottfred - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 20:18:08 -0800 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Darwin award He had fired a blank load at close range at > another partygoer with a .44 bp revolver just before he shot and killed his > roommate with the bp rifle & cigarette butts. > > Naturally, there was a bit of alcohol involved with the stupidity. The > story is at Actually this sort of thing has happened before. Not that many years ago a young buckskinner friend of mine found himself in Texas as a new member of the Army. Being from a BP family and background he searched out similar activities down there. At one of his first outings with his new acquaintances, one young buck pulled out his cap and ball revolver and fired it from a short distance point blank at my young friend. It was loaded with a blank charge/wad and just stung his tummy a bit. But my young friend wasn't amused and when he got through with the fella with the cap and ball revolver, that young man was not having fun at all. Needless to say, my friend did not associate with that bunch of buckaroos any more. Back to really old history. Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:44:37 -0700 From: Mike Moore Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Computer virus I was introduced to these guys on the canoe trip last year, and I like Linda, want more! mike. Linda Holley wrote: > Thanks for the Sven and Ole joke. Have not heard a good one since the La > Junta 1978 rend. Love those guys. Always laugh and you did it with such > a good accent. > > Linda Holley > > Jim Lindberg wrote: > > > Sorry, couldn't resist: > > > > Sven and Ole here, > > > > Yew have yust received da Sven & Ole Computer Virus. > > Because ve don't know how to program computers, dis virus verks > > on da honor system. Please delete all da files on yewr hard drive > > manually and forward dis message to everyvon on yewr mailing list. > > > > Tank yew fer yewr cooperation. > > > > Sven and Ole > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #746 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.