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hist_text-digest      Tuesday, February 27 2001      Volume 01 : Number 757



In this issue:

-       Re: MtMan-List: ... OT - Items on the Coyote & Spring Beaver Trapping
-       Re: MtMan-List: ... OT - Items on the Coyote & Spring Beaver Trapping
-       Re: MtMan-List: ... OT - Items on the Coyote & Spring Beaver Trapping
-       Re: MtMan-List: Grizz load
-       Re: MtMan-List: Grizz load
-       Re: MtMan-List: Grizz load
-       MtMan-List: Coffee pot or pan
-       Re: MtMan-List: Coffee pot or pan
-       MtMan-List: test message

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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 01:09:05 -0800
From: "Possum Hunter" <icurapossum_hunter2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ... OT - Items on the Coyote & Spring Beaver Trapping

I wrote:
>>Sounds like the politicians are in the skins (of the Coyote) as they can't
be trusted"?
>> If this is what TerryTwoBear was saying, I do agree. They cannot be
trusted.
>>
>> Personally, I think most politicians are just plain Buzzards though.

Then Dick James wrote:
> Sounds good to me, too.  Can we include lawyers with that ilk??

YES! and we can include Doctors, County Zoning Inspectors, and TV Preachers.

Then there is that *special* class of Porkeater, You know the ones. They are
too cheap to buy a good flinter, so they drill out the touch hole on their
Junker gun to try to make it fire, then they cover YOU up with burning
powder when you are shooting next to them. I had the displeasure of shooting
next to one of these pork munching flatlanders at a doins last fall. He had
more soot and smoke coming from the side of his gun than the front! A bunch
of us were ready to hang him and his Junker gun up as the 50 yard target!

Possum


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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 22:57:39 -0800
From: Randal J Bublitz <randybublitz@juno.com>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ... OT - Items on the Coyote & Spring Beaver Trapping

Excuse me friend....may I shoot your gun....<g>......next target at 25
yards...his gun....   hardtack

Blaming guns for killing people is like blaming spoons for making Rosie
O'Donnel fat?

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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 10:41:49 EST
From: SWzypher@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: ... OT - Items on the Coyote & Spring Beaver Trapping

<<Personally, I think most politicians are just plain Buzzards though.  . . 
.Can we include lawyers with that ilk??  . . .  YES! and we can include 
Doctors, County Zoning Inspectors, and TV Preachers.


 . . . that *special* class of Porkeater, You know the ones. They are

too cheap to buy a good flinter, so they drill out the touch hole on their

Junker gun to try to make it fire, then they cover YOU up with burning

powder when you are shooting next to them. 

"Iff-ees" on some doctors, but we are getting quite a list.  Can we put them 
all together and do something with a doll and needles and chicken blood and 
candles ans such to make the world a better place??
RJames


Possum


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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 20:46:15 EST
From: BrayHaven@aol.com
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Grizz load

In a message dated 2/24/2001 9:25:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
rtlahti@email.msn.com writes:

<< Unless
 the animal is hit in a supporting structure such as the spinal nervous
 system or a major bone structure it will not be "Knocked Down" by anything
 short of an over legal cal. gun. >>

As a gunsmith,  I always chuckled at people wanting a rifle with "knock down" 
power.  An old gunsmithing mentor has a formula for one.  He says the only 
way to be sure to have knock down power is to match the weight of the bullet 
to the weight of the game and propel it at the speed of light. 

I did have a friend who stopped a Mack truck with a spear.  He was on a 
survey crew holding the target stick and a dump truck harassed him day after 
day by heasding straight at him and veering at the last moment.  After a few 
days (the truck came by several times a day) he threw the target stick 
through the radiator which went clen through and into the fan.  Broke the 
belts and stopped the truck in a few hundred yards.  Got a reprimand (with a 
wink) from the boss.  45/70 would probably have done it too.

Greg Sefton

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:48:46 -0600
From: "jdearing" <jdearing@brick.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Grizz load

he threw the target stick
> through the radiator which went clen through and into the fan.  Broke the
> belts and stopped the truck in a few hundred yards.  Got a reprimand (with
a
> wink) from the boss.  45/70 would probably have done it too.
>
Yeah, but the "spear" was probably  more fun. ;-)


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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 18:01:04 -0600
From: "jdearing" <jdearing@brick.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Grizz load

> I'm not sure who your addressing here or who's comments. From what you
> posted I would say you got two guy's offerings together on the subject but
> that is not what I am posting about. I'm really only using your post to
make
> a point for people new to BP or even some experienced hunters who should
> know better.

Yep, tried to kill two birds with one post, so to speak. Should have
addressed
folks by name.
>
> I will presume that the comment about stopping a Mack Truck is a figure of
> speech and not to be taken literally. But as to the killing capability of
a
> 45-70, it has proven itself many times over. And it is not "Knock Down"
> power. And if you are not a believer in "Knock Down" power either, my
> apologies for suggesting that you are. <G>

I did knock a deer down with one shot of my trusty old .54 several years
ago.
It had its head down following a coupla does. Musta turned to run when the
flint
struck the frizzen, 'cause the ball hit it at the base of the neck, follwed
the spine,
and exited just below the jaw. That deer went down like it had been poll
axed.
But that's the only one.

Yep the old 45-70 is an outstanding cartridge, especially when hand loaded
to its full potential for use modern actions, but I'm not an advocate of
knock down
power.

The Mack truck quote came from a former post, and while a 45-70 might stop a
Mack Truck, I wouldn't want to be standing in front of that truck waiting
for it to roll
over and die. ;-)



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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 23:05:04 EST
From: MarkLoader@aol.com
Subject: MtMan-List: Coffee pot or pan

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In David Adams Journals October 1, 1843. There is reference to 1/2 dozen 
coffee pans what would they be like and what were they made?  Any thoughts? 
Thanks "Roadkill"

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:42:03 -0700
From: Mike Moore <amm1616@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Coffee pot or pan

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Mark,
    Have no idea, maybe for roasting the green beans? Could be a handled

tin skillet. Since he lists tin cups, large tin pans, sheet iron, brass
and copper
kettles on the same lists; we know that it is not same as these.
                                                        mike.

MarkLoader@aol.com wrote:

> In David Adams Journals October 1, 1843. There is reference to 1/2
> dozen
> coffee pans what would they be like and what were they made?  Any
> thoughts?
> Thanks "Roadkill"

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Mark,
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Have no idea, maybe for roasting the green beans?
Could be a handled
<br>tin skillet. Since he lists tin cups, large tin pans, sheet iron, brass
and copper
<br>kettles on the same lists; we know that it is not same as these.&nbsp;
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Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:10:52 -0700
From: "Thomas Ballstaedt" <tphsb@earthlink.net>
Subject: MtMan-List: test message

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