From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #787 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Thursday, April 19 2001 Volume 01 : Number 787 In this issue: -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Commercial/Boarding Axe -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question -牋牋牋 RE: MtMan-List: steer skull -牋牋牋 Re: RE: MtMan-List: steer skull -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Trapping in early 20th Century Utah -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: steer skull -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Re: Pyramid Tents -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: "Drive and Dump" or "Park and drop" or Park and Play" -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: steer skull -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: READ THIS!!! FATAL ADVICE -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: steer skull -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair Now Pyramid Tents -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: html garbage -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: steer skull -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: steer skull -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: READ THIS!!! FATAL ADVICE -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:52:47 -0400 From: "D. Miles" Subject: MtMan-List: Commercial/Boarding Axe This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C8CF.A22E4260 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0C8CF.A22E4260" - ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0C8CF.A22E4260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alan, Enclosed is a link to a site with some boarding axes.. Good site = overall. The Spanish one just caught my eye because it included = measurements.... http://www.imacdigest.com/axe.html Thanks D - ------=_NextPart_001_0006_01C0C8CF.A22E4260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Alan,

Enclosed is a link to a site with = some=20 boarding axes.. Good site overall. The Spanish one just caught my eye = because it=20 included measurements....

http://www.imacdigest.com/axe= .html

Thanks

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But before I do them , any interest from you nautical types? >> Hallo Dennis, Naw....not me.... but heard you made steels that threw enough sparks to light a fire on a wet log, in the rainy NW on a windy day. Could use one of them, and mebbe a camp axe. Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:19:46 -0600 From: "Sickler, Louis L" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: steer skull Walter, I've had the best luck using drug store peroxide to soak the scraped skull in. DON"T use bleach. The action never seems to stop until you have a chalky mass of brittle bone fragments. Also, don't use high concentration reagent grade peroxide, it will dissolve the bone. Soak for a day or two. You can get all the hard to remove bits of flesh, etc. off as they soften up. The result is a smooth, whitish (not pure white) skull. I belive there was some discussion on this in the past. Check the list archives. Lou Sickler > -----Original Message----- > From: walter palmer [SMTP:longbutt@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:29 AM > To: hist_text@xmission.com > Subject: MtMan-List: steer skull > > how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ? > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:19:43 EDT From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: MtMan-List: steer skull In a message dated 4/19/1 10:28:20 AM, louis.l.sickler@lmco.com writes: <> In a taxidermy class: First soak in ammonia to clear out all the "bits and pieces" - then go to bleach OUTSIDE as the fumes are toxic. The bleach does its "bleaching" while the ammonia and bleach seem to cancel each other out. Then - the power nozzle. Never did a cow but it worked good on several buffalo. Richard James - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:58:25 -0700 From: "Alfred E. Holland, Jr." Subject: MtMan-List: Trapping in early 20th Century Utah Please pardon this query if it is too far off appropriate subject matter. There is an oft-recited story about Vernal, Utah, trapper Than Galloway that he trapped his way down the Green River from above Green River, Wyoming, clear down into Arizona Territory in the late nineteenth and very early twentieth century, selling his pelts in Arizona because he could not legally do so in Utah. I'm looking to confirm the "illegal in Utah" and "legal in Arizona Territory" parts of the tale. Any ideas on how to get to those old law books without going to Utah and Arizona? Thanks, Al Holland - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:49:47 -0400 From: "D. Miles" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question Magpie Wrote "but heard you made steels that threw enough sparks to light a fire on a wet log, in the rainy NW on a windy day. Could use one of them, and mebbe a camp axe." >>Magpie... You heard right, I 'spect... I can set you up with that, an axe and things that you dinnit even know you needed. Just step here into the parlor, interest you in an adult baverage?? Contact me offlist and I will set you right up... deforge1@bright.net D "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" DOUBLE EDGE FORGE Knives and Iron Accouterments http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 "Knowing how is just the beginning." - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:16:47 -0400 From: Linda Holley Subject: Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent Ok...what is a park and drop?? Is that different than you have ONe hour to get out of Dodge..... And that is a mighty small camp.... at "15"x25" "????? Knowing it is bigger than that, I hope, Do you put the tent around the car??? I did that once. Drove them crazy. Linda Holley "Ole B. Jensen" wrote: > John, > That is the same understanding that I have. currently I am using the > connical tent which dates back to French Military of 1760, it is a one pole > tent an made by "Tent Smith" it is much better looking than the pyramid in > my opinion. "Tent Smith" also made my 15"X25" Marque that I use for the > "Park and Drop" camps they are by far the best tent makers I have ever seen. > YMOS > Ole # 718 > ---------- > >From: John Kramer > >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent > >Date: Wed, Apr 18, 2001, 8:05 PM > > > > >At 09:31 PM 4/18/01 -0500, you wrote: > >>What did you find about pyramid tents? > >>Lanney > > > >Lanney & whomever first asked about 49er miner tents, > > > >Peter & Deborah Marques http://www.tentsmiths.com/ > > > >know more about tents than anyone else I know. I have been very pleased > >with everything I've bought from them and impressed by other of their > >products I've seen. They have the following information on their web site. > > > >begin quote............." > > PYRAMID TENTS > >Pyramid (also called Miner's) tents have become very popular in the last > >few years. They have a very thin and short history. > >Although the design is a natural for contorting canvas, the first reference > >we know of was a gentleman in the British Army who made every attempt to > >get the tent style accepted by the quartermaster division. His idea was to > >have the corners held down with bayonets and the pole to be a Brown Bess > >musket. Needless to say it was another seventy five years before we > >actually find the design in use. > >Parkman mentions the Pyramid tent in his journal of 1846 while on the > >Oregon Trail. As cameras came into use, the tent is recorded in photographs > >of cattle drives and with exterior poles next to early motor vehicles at > >picnic/ camping trips. > > > >"end quote.................. > > > >John... > >John T. Kramer, maker of: > > > >Kramer's Best Antique Improver > > >>>It makes wood wonderful<<< > > >>>As good as old!<<< > > > > > > > >mail to: > > > > > >---------------------- > >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:16:23 EDT From: LODGEPOLE@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull In a message dated 4/19, longbutt@hotmail.com writes: << how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ? >> Try a bucket of bleach. Worked fer me. Dave - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:27:53 -0700 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent I have a Pyramid Tent, but don't use it much. This arguement has gone on for years, As far as written documentation, Parkman in 1841 is the earliest, but Miller depicted what certainly appears to be Pyramids in several of his original drawings, many of which did not show up in the oil paintings. There is at least one of the paintings, (I can't remember the name of it.) that absolutely shows a Pyramid. My $.02 Pendleton - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:50:32 -0600 From: "Gene Hickman" Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Pyramid Tents This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C0C8E0.158C0020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's what I recieved back as an answer from the good folks at Panther = Primitives:=20 The "other vague references" in our catalog listed refers to paintings = and other references Sam had looked at 20 years ago and we can't locate = them.. There is a painting by Alfred Jacob Miller in 1837 that shows = what could be a pyramid tent.=20 Good luck with your search. I'll be watching the mlml discussion group = to see what you come up with. Someone had said they remember a Miller painting with what looked like a = pyramid tent. Someone out there with copies of the Miller works take a = look and see what you can find. The quest goes on. YMOS Ghosting Wolf AKA Gene Hickman - ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C0C8E0.158C0020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here's what I recieved back as an = answer from the=20 good folks at Panther Primitives:

The=20 "other vague references" in our catalog listed refers to paintings and = other=20 references Sam had looked at 20 years ago and we can't locate them.. = There is a=20 painting by Alfred Jacob Miller in 1837 that shows what could be a = pyramid tent.=20

Good luck with your search. I'll be watching the = mlml=20 discussion group to see what you come up with.

Someone had said they remember a Miller = painting=20 with what looked like a pyramid tent. Someone out there with copies of = the=20 Miller works take a look and see what you can find. The quest goes=20 on.

YMOS

Ghosting Wolf AKA Gene=20 Hickman

- ------=_NextPart_000_007A_01C0C8E0.158C0020-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:40:36 -0700 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question D. Remember, he likes em shiny. Make sure he gets a proper AMM striker even though he don't have a number yet. Capt. Lahti - ----- Original Message ----- From: "D. Miles" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question > Magpie Wrote "but heard you made steels that threw enough sparks to > light > a fire on a wet log, in the rainy NW on a windy day. Could use one of them, > and mebbe a camp axe." > > > >>Magpie... You heard right, I 'spect... I can set you up with that, an axe > and things that you dinnit even know you needed. Just step here into the > parlor, interest you in an adult baverage?? Contact me offlist and I will > set you right up... > deforge1@bright.net > > D > > "Abair ach beagan is abair gu math e" > DOUBLE EDGE FORGE > Knives and Iron Accouterments > http://www.bright.net/~deforge1 > > "Knowing how is just the beginning." > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:54:43 -0700 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: MtMan-List: "Drive and Dump" or "Park and drop" or Park and Play" Linda, Not sure what Ole' meant by it but we call any doings you can drive up to your camp site with your rig and drop your camp off, parking your rig out at the parking lot, a "Drive and Dump". Means you don't have to carry your stuff in which pretty much precludes it's gona be totally Primitive if you can haul a pickup load in. The Rocky Mt. Nationals and such are "Drive and Dumps" with a slightly higher standard than a "Porkydo" "Drive and Dump" where "Tin Tipi's" are mixed in with the canvas tipis and not much in the way of modern is forbidden. Does that help? YMOS Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:11:27 -0500 From: "Robert T. Broadway" <21stcentury@altamontks.com> Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull Boil it in a little dish soap.....NO CLOROX.....NO BLEACH.......NO LAUNDRY DETERGENT. Make sure to keep track of the teeth...they will loosen. Do not Leave the skull in the water for days to "loosen" it up. Get some 10% H2O2...Hydroden Peroxide........and immerse for a day. All My Best: Robert Broadway Executive Director 21st Century Homestead, Inc. Terra Incognita Operations Officer Pelagic Shark Research Foundation www.pelagic.org - ---------- >From: "walter palmer" >To: hist_text@xmission.com >Subject: MtMan-List: steer skull >Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2001, 11:29 AM > > how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ? > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:17:00 -0500 From: "Robert T. Broadway" <21stcentury@altamontks.com> Subject: MtMan-List: READ THIS!!! FATAL ADVICE >From R. James: " First soak in ammonia to clear out all the "bits and pieces" - then go to bleach OUTSIDE as the fumes are toxic. The bleach does its "bleaching" while the ammonia and bleach seem to cancel each other out." AMMONIA AND CHLORINE BLEACH MIXED TOGETHER MAKES A !!!!D E A D L Y!!! GAS. DO NOT DO THIS...UNLESS YOU WISH TO DIE. All My Best: Robert Broadway Executive Director 21st Century Homestead, Inc. Terra Incognita Operations Officer Pelagic Shark Research Foundation www.pelagic.org - ---------- >From: SWzypher@aol.com >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: RE: MtMan-List: steer skull >Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2001, 1:19 PM > > > In a message dated 4/19/1 10:28:20 AM, louis.l.sickler@lmco.com writes: > > <> > > In a taxidermy class: First soak in ammonia to clear out all the "bits and > pieces" - then go to bleach OUTSIDE as the fumes are toxic. The bleach does > its "bleaching" while the ammonia and bleach seem to cancel each other out. > Then - the power nozzle. Never did a cow but it worked good on several > buffalo. > > Richard James > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:45:39 -0400 From: tom roberts Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull Walter, I'm told that in Mexico they bury them and let the bacteria to the dirty work. Tom walter palmer wrote: > > how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ? > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:55:21 -0400 From: tom roberts Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rope: Buffalo hair horsehair Now Pyramid Tents I've got a panther 12x12 pyramid and love the convenience for those events where such a shelter is appropriate. Easily enough room for 4, 6 if you're good friends. Even with a vent flap at the top, they will not draft well enough to support a fire inside, unlike a lodge. Alternately and more economically, a large piece of canvas can be set up any number of ways using whatever may be handy (sticks, rocks, trees, etc) and should be correct for just about anywhere. Tom Gene Hickman wrote: > > From: "Victoria Pate" > To: > > << What did you all find out about the Pyramid tents? > The write up about them in Panther Primitives say > they are PC, but I've heard otherwise from several > esteemed members of this list. I'm thinking about > buying one.>> > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:33:36 -0400 From: Linda Holley Subject: Re: MtMan-List: 49er tent Ok....now I get it....we just call it the one hour and get out of camp rule after dumping all your stuff. I have been out West several times and had not heard they Park and Dump term. And when I said we had the car in camp....It was in the tent which covered it and with room to spare. Couldn't get it out of camp (the car). Got stuck. So you cover up your mistakes. Linda Holley larry pendleton wrote: > I have a Pyramid Tent, but don't use it much. This arguement has gone on > for years, As far as written documentation, Parkman in 1841 is the > earliest, but Miller depicted what certainly appears to be Pyramids in > several of his original drawings, many of which did not show up in the oil > paintings. There is at least one of the paintings, (I can't remember the > name of it.) that absolutely shows a Pyramid. > > My $.02 > Pendleton > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:44:01 -0500 From: "Frank Fusco" Subject: MtMan-List: html garbage Sure would be nice to have all that html garbage gone from the digest. Usually it is caused by incorrect settings with MS Outlook Express. To change: go to 'tools', then go to 'options', then go to 'send' then change the 'mail preferences' from 'html' to 'plain text' , OK out of all that and ye should be fine. Frank G. Fusco Mountain Home, Arkansas http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:45:45 -0400 From: "D. Miles" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question Remember, he likes em shiny. Make sure he gets a proper AMM striker even though he don't have a number yet. >>>Rog.. He has to get those thru Crazy... Not meeeee.... But I WILL be glad to build him a nice one RIGHT in his price range.. D - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:56:13 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question In a message dated 4/19/01 2:35:20 PM, rtlahti@email.msn.com writes: << Make sure he gets a proper AMM striker even though he don't have a number yet. >> Is that them "magnesium" ones I see at the gun shows??!!? .... or the propane fired one. Aw, come on Capt, I'm just kidding...... geez..... Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:16:32 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question In a message dated 4/19/01 4:47:03 PM, deforge1@bright.net writes: << But I WILL be glad to build him a nice one RIGHT in his price range.. >> Haaaaa......Capt Lahti thinks I'm a rich airline pilot! Hell.....I work for drinks and tips....may even qualify for food stamps. A good blacksmith would whip one of them axes together cheap just so I could keep my poor chillens warm wid the brush I could chop wid it.... Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:33:39 EDT From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull walter palmer wrote: > > how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ?>> In a message dated 4/19/1 03:46:42 PM, troberts@gdi.net writes: < Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull Chlorine or Chlorox will destroy the bone...It will turn it to chalk in a short time. Stay away from it. Simple boiling in a big wash tub with a gentle DISH soap will get you 97% of the way. A little H2O2 will do the rest. Seal the bone with a 50-50 mixture of water and Elmer's glue. This technique is used in most big osteology collections. Cheers: Robert B. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 7:33 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: steer skull > walter palmer wrote: > > > > how can i bleach a steer skull so its nice and white ?>> > > In a message dated 4/19/1 03:46:42 PM, troberts@gdi.net writes: > > < bury them and let the bacteria > to the dirty work. > > Tom > That's the part I left out when I wrote about Clorox and ammonia - and > subsequently got jumped on . . . .FIRST bury them in the ground within two or > three inches from the surface - damp - and let the carnivor beetles go to > town on it. They are little solid black guys mebbe so a quarter of an inch > long. Leave it there for several weeks in the Rockies - days in coastal > Virginia. Then you treat them (the bones - not the beetles) with the ammonia > and then the clorox and then you die from the fumes. The earlier > gentleman's words of caution are in good taste as I have read several times > of grave illnesses and fatalities with American housewives for using this > combination in a rather confined bathroom area while cleaning and sanitizing. > Probably a good idea to rinse out a good part of the amonia before the > charge of Clorox in view of what has been said. Again, my source is a class > in taxidermy. The taxidermist that taught it, by the way is dead. Probably > a combination of the above chemicals, booze and cigarettes or he would be > well into his 90s by now. > Most - or at least somewhat - Sincerely > Richard James > > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:42:57 -0700 From: "larry pendleton" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: READ THIS!!! FATAL ADVICE AMMONIA AND CHLORINE BLEACH MIXED TOGETHER MAKES A !!!!D E A D L Y!!! GAS. DO NOT DO THIS...UNLESS YOU WISH TO DIE. All My Best: Robert Broadway >> Guys, he is absolutely right. DO NOT GO THERE ! Any residue of either one when mixed with the other will knock your lights out. Pendleton - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:09:55 -0700 From: "Roger Lahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Commercial Question > Is that them "magnesium" ones I see at the gun shows??!!? .... or the propane > fired one. Aw, come on Capt, I'm just kidding...... geez..... > > Magpie Brother Jeff Smith, are you out there? We got a problem here. Capt. 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