From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #833 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, July 24 2001 Volume 01 : Number 833 In this issue: -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Alfred Miller's Paintings -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Miles folder... -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: trade gun? -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: trade gun? -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Alfred Jacob Miller Book -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning -牋牋牋 RE: MtMan-List: Alfred Jacob Miller Book -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 RE: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth -牋牋牋 Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 01:55:20 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide In a message dated 7/22/01 8:08:34 PM, admiller@citynet.net writes: << I had the same thing happen to my skins when I lived in Florida. I used a 50/50 vinegar and water mix and it took it right off. Put them in the sun to dry.... >> I don't have mildew, but I've got a rawhide back pack that got wet and now, even though it's dry, smells kinda rank. I've tried smoking it a bit to get rid of the bad smell, but no luck. Any ideas on what would work? Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 07:33:17 -0400 From: "Dennis Miles" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide Magpie, Are you SURE it is the pack that smells rank??? D - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 07:47:54 -0400 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning cpt L did the sweet oil make you get up and run in the morning ??????inquiring minds you know--- nuff said--- "HAWK" Michael Pierce "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line " trademark (C) 854 Glenfield Dr. Palm Harbor florida 34684 Phone Number: 1-727-771-1815 E-Mail: hawknest4@juno.com Web site: http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 07:16:06 -0700 From: "Ole B. Jensen" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches Magpie, Page 55 of Marvin C. Ross book of Millers drawings. You should be able to get a copy at the Library or ebay. Ole - ---------- >From: SWcushing@aol.com >To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches >Date: Sun, Jul 22, 2001, 10:29 PM > > >In a message dated 7/22/01 9:23:02 PM, amm1616@earthlink.net writes: > ><< Yesterday, seen another orginal sketch at the Denver Art >Museum. "Indian Guide" , 1837, if I remember right. Seventh floor, >had not seen it before. > >> > >Thanks Mike, >I've checked the web a bit and not much to be found on Miller...and no luck >on the orignal sketch book. I'm gonna get Rex Normans "The 1837 Schetchbook >of the Western Fur Trade" ...it's got a lot of Miller's drawings in it. I >need it for reference and ideas on stuff to make... > >Magpie > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:31:39 -0500 From: "Glenn Darilek" Subject: MtMan-List: Alfred Miller's Paintings I think the largest collection is at the Walters Gallery in Baltimore. They have 200 water colors that Walters commissioned, as well as many oils. They only show a few at a time, but they used to have a small room with mostly his stuff. If you are a serious researcher, I think you can make arrangements to see the entire collection. I went there last month, and was very disappointed that they are still remodeling the gallery, and only one display of some oriental art was on view. I went there more than six months ago, and they were remodeling then also. Maybe the art connoisseurs are more interested in the building than the art. There are more of Miller's paintings at the Gilcrease? museum in Tulsa, though I have never seen them. I think that in Bernard deVoto's "Across the Wide Missouri" he listed the major repositories of Miller's work in the back of the book. That is how I found out about the Walters Gallery. I don't have them bookmarked, but I think there are at least 10 of his paintings on the internet. Glenn Darilek Iron Burner SWcushing@aol.com wrote: > Hallo the List, > > Does anyone know where the original sketches done by Alfred Miller are > located? I think someone once said they were in France somewhere, and I've > got a kid over there that would take some pictures of them, if she knew where > to go.... > > Ymos, > Magpie > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 09:56:52 -0400 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide > I've got a rawhide back pack that got wet and now, even though it's dry, smells kinda rank. I ran into that problem with a leather backpack I bought when I was on Crete. Got wet and smelled like dead fish!! Never did get rid of the smell. Finally got rid of the BP. That was 22 years ago. Now with newer oder neutralizers, they may work. Would suggest trying that in a "mist" from a spray bottle and not wiping it with a solution. Ad Miller Alderson, WV - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:23:21 -0700 From: "rtlahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide D. You notice he didn't ask his hunting buddies?! Capt. Lahti' - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Miles" To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 4:33 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide > Magpie, > Are you SURE it is the pack that smells rank??? > D > > > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:24:59 -0700 From: "rtlahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning Hawk, Well inquiring minds will just have to wonder or try it themselves! Capt. Lahti' - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 4:47 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning > cpt L > did the sweet oil make you get up and run in the morning ??????inquiring > minds you know--- > > nuff said--- > > "HAWK" > Michael Pierce "Home of ".Old Grizz" Product line " trademark (C) > 854 Glenfield Dr. > Palm Harbor florida 34684 Phone Number: 1-727-771-1815 > E-Mail: hawknest4@juno.com Web site: > http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 11:49:03 EDT From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches In a message dated 7/23/1 5:23:02 AM, amm1616@earthlink.net writes: < > Does anyone know where the original sketches done by Alfred Miller are > located?>> The one with the trapper standing in the water is in the Cody Museum in Wyoming. It is very small. Sometimes it is loaned out but I have been keeping my eye on it for thirty years and it is usually there over by the Catlin paintings. Dick James - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:06:22 EDT From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide In a message dated 7/23/1 6:56:54 AM, SWcushing@aol.com writes: << rawhide back pack that got wet and now, even though it's dry, smells kinda rank.>> The smell is from decay - fungus - bacterial activity . . . what everyou want to call it. Kill the little beasties with a disinfectant or every time they get moist they will begin their work again and you will smell the by-product. If you can get something on there that will penetrate their little cell walls through the osmotic process they will die and the deterioration will cease. Prime in breakdown are oxygen, sunlight, and bacteria. They all go to work on organic materials - sun and oxygen do the inorganics. RJames - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 13:41:03 -0400 From: "Dennis Miles" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide Cap't, Yeah, I did... D - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:28:50 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Re: Rank smellin rawhide In a message dated 7/23/01 4:34:33 AM, deforge1@bright.net writes: << Magpie, Are you SURE it is the pack that smells rank??? D >> <> Haaaaa..... thanks for the helpful hints boys.... While I've been known to come out of the woods after a week, "smellin like a rose", I'm pretty sure it's the pack... Think I'll give it a light spray of Lysol first, then smoke it again. It's a neat, box like, pack and you can even eat it in starvin times.... with the right amount of whisky to wash it down. Hate to have to burn it. Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 14:37:00 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Miles folder... Wooooohooo! Dennis just sent me a slick little folder, that I dearly like! While it didn't come with the optional cork screw, tweezers, and hidden tooth pick, I'll still have sumtin sharp while I'm out plowing the fields wid my other knife.... Nice job, Dennis. Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:06:48 -0500 From: jim gossett Subject: MtMan-List: trade gun? I recently bought an origninal Trade Gun but it is somewhat puzzling. The gun is 58 cal smoothbore 38.5 inch barrel The flint lock is over 1.5 wide x 7" long with an 1810 date .Inside the lock on the tumbler is a number 44 . The lock also has a bridle. The ramrod pipes are very much like the 2nd model Brown Bess even the ram rod entrance pipe. All brass mountings small trihher guard like a Wilson but without the fineal. flat butt plate (brass) . The barrel has a fixed rear site and is painted black with this stamped on the barrel JPR | EXR|3. The gun is very well put together wood to metal fit etc.There is a V scratched on the inside of lock inside of the buttplate on the under side of the barrel and in the stock channel .The ramrod is metal and the frant site is like a bayonet stud . Any help would be good. Gentleman James - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:21:53 EDT From: SWzypher@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: trade gun? Realizing HBC was still distributing these pieces into the 1880s (percussion by then) there is a chance for all manner of variations. I have to recall what Charlie Hansen told me one time: First he made the point that almost all were walnut stocked and he used to weigh them to make the point they were lighter than the maple stocked. The Vs were possibly 5s and were used to keep all the parts of that particular gun together. I have had an old barrel with the front sight looking like a bayonet lug but I can't remember the particulars. Some were painted, but usually a dull red. I have seen one, only, black. I have an original barrel found in the flood plain above the Snake River in Idaho. It has Fox-on-the-tombstone stamped along with many other proofs and viewed marks. It has half of the word "Warrented" stamped underneath near the breech plug. It is correct for the period with serifs on each letter. It is hard to tell if file marks were visible on "the part that showed". Where the wedding bands were, however, there was one ring filed all the way around the barrel - probably as a guide. The rest were filed only in "the part that showed". Something you might consider: At one time "Trade Guns" were distributed to the Indians having their own definition of the time. They were"Guns" and meant for "trade. The would shoot, but they were made up of whatever parts were at hand. I have one. It has no entry pipe, no butt plate and the trigger guard has been sprung from long (set triggers?) to single trigger but with a large bow - not quite a trade gun pattern. Until the beginning of World War II Belgium was sending flintlocks to Africa where cartridge gun ownership was illegal to the locals. They had a loose standard but they would be made pretty much from what was on hand. "Waste not -- want not." This may help you or it may give someone else a chance to say "No way! That ain't right!" Let me tell you how it REALLY is . . . . And a good day to you Richard James - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 17:47:17 -0600 From: Mike Moore Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches Todd, If I remember right, it is a muscular young man with a roach or mohawk cut of black hair. Bare chested, riding a horse. He is stopped next to Stewart, pointing off to his left. It is a ink with a small amount of water color wash. Like alot of Miller's field sketches, only the two men, (the Indian and Stewart) are in focus. Not a lot of detail, both have long guns with them laying over their saddles, nice horses. Todd, if you need more info, let me know. I can go back ( I live close to the museum) and am a member- so I get in free. Was disappointed in the main attraction there, the "European Masters". mike. Todd Glover wrote: > Mike, > > Could you describe what "The Indian Guide" looked like? I hear tell that > someone had recently "Discovered" a Miller painting that shows > some very different dress styles than most of his painting. Maybe this is > the painting. > > "Teton" Todd D. Glover > http://homestead.juno.com/tetontodd/index.html > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:41:30 -0600 From: Todd Glover Subject: MtMan-List: Alfred Jacob Miller Book Speaking of Millers sketches......I have an exlibrary, first-edition, hard-bound "The West of Alfred Jacob Miller" that I would be willing to part with. (Have another one for my library.) If anyone is interested, I will run this like an auction, and will entertain offers until Saturday night. Between now and then I will keep you all posted on the current high bid. Of course I have set a reserve price which I feel is only fair. Look on bookfinder.com or some other used book site and see what these are going for. Open for bids....... Did I mention that everything above my cost goes to the land fund? "Teton" Todd D. Glover http://homestead.juno.com/tetontodd/index.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 18:30:02 -0600 From: Todd Glover Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Miller's sketches Mike, Thanks for the info. This doesn't sound like the reported "discovery" I heard about. The one I'm talking about supposedly has a Longhunter type character in it. Does the museum sell reproductions of the paintings there? "Teton" Todd D. Glover http://homestead.juno.com/tetontodd/index.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 22:08:22 -0400 From: hawknest4@juno.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning CPT L this old pup aint going to bite on that one aint got time to squirt and run---(GBG) nuff said HAWK On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:24:59 -0700 "rtlahti" writes: > Hawk, > > Well inquiring minds will just have to wonder or try it themselves! > > Capt. Lahti' > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:32:30 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: oil cloth Mark Baker would be proud! For those considering making one, I just finished a neat little 7.5X7.5 oil cloth out of a queen size Egyptian cotton sheet. (220 threads per inch!) It took a little less than a quart of boiled linseed oil, (no thinner or turpentine added) and near a pound of yellow iron oxide to cover it well. Baker sez you need two days in the sun to dry, and seven in the shade to loose the smell... Hmmmm.... hard to get two days of sun in a row on this side of the Cascades, but will see how long it takes to dry and report back. I'm thinking this little shelter won't weigh more than a couple pounds when it's done. Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:52:44 -0600 From: Todd Glover Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth Magpie, Made a rain poncho outta the same kinda sheet. Works well. "Teton" Todd D. Glover http://homestead.juno.com/tetontodd/index.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:57:04 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth Hi Teton, Just looking at your web site..... Hey put me down for $50 for the book... doubt that's enough, but a start anyway. Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 20:58:53 -0700 From: "rtlahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning > CPT L > > this old pup aint going to bite on that one aint got time to squirt and > run---(GBG) > > nuff said Hawk, No guts, no glory. Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:18:37 -0700 From: "rtlahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 7:08 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Rifle Cleaning > CPT L > > this old pup aint going to bite on that one aint got time to squirt and > run---(GBG) Hawk, No guts, no glory! Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:28:32 -0700 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: Alfred Jacob Miller Book - ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Todd, I haven't checked anything, but...I will start the bidding at $100 . hardtack . Open for bids....... Did I mention that everything above my cost goes to the land fund? "Teton" Todd D. Glover http://homestead.juno.com/tetontodd/index.html - ---------------------- - --- Randal Bublitz - --- rjbublitz@earthlink.net We have NOT inherited the Earth from our Fathers, we are Borrowing it from our Children - ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII

Todd, I haven't checked anything, but...I will start the bidding at $100 . hardtack

. Open for bids.......

Did I mention that everything above my cost goes to the land fund?

"Teton" Todd D. Glover

http://homestead.juno.com/tetontodd/index.html

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- ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:26:41 -0700 From: "rtlahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth Hmmmm.... hard to get two days of sun in a row on this > side of the Cascades, but will see how long it takes to dry and report back. > I'm thinking this little shelter won't weigh more than a couple pounds when > it's done. Magpie, Until it dries, you can not camp within 100 yards of us-down wind! And no smoking! Of course we won't be able to smell your scent so there is an up side. Capt. Lahti' - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 21:33:34 -0700 From: "Randal Bublitz" Subject: RE: MtMan-List: oil cloth - ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Magpie, I'm ignorant on fine sheets and such. Is egyptian cotton readily available? I did a search about a month ago and came up empty handed. I've heard of this material, and it's suitability for oilcloth, but I couldn't fing it. Please advise this pilgrm. Thanks, hardtack - --- Randal Bublitz - --- rjbublitz@earthlink.net We have NOT inherited the Earth from our Fathers, we are Borrowing it from our Children - ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII

Magpie, I'm ignorant on fine sheets and such. Is egyptian cotton readily available? I did a search about a month ago and came up empty handed. I've heard of this material, and it's suitability for oilcloth, but I couldn't fing it. Please advise this pilgrm. Thanks, hardtack

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- ------=_NextPart_84815C5ABAF209EF376268C8-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 23:56:18 -0400 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth How about a KING sheet? Heh.... being 6'4", I'd need a larget one... Ad Miller Alderson, WV > For those considering making one, I just finished a neat little 7.5X7.5 oil > cloth out of a queen size Egyptian cotton sheet. (220 threads per inch!) - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 12:06:02 -0600 From: "Scott Gottschall" Subject: MtMan-List: Fort Buenaventura Rondezvous This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C11439.0217F360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I heard a rumor yesterday that the Rondezvous over Labaor Day Weekend = was cancelled at Fort Buenaventura in Ogden, Ut. Any truth to that? = Does anyone know of any other Rondezvous in Utah that weekend? - ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C11439.0217F360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I heard a rumor yesterday that the = Rondezvous over=20 Labaor Day Weekend was cancelled at Fort Buenaventura in Ogden, = Ut. Any=20 truth to that? Does anyone know of any other Rondezvous in Utah = that=20 weekend?

- ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C11439.0217F360-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 16:29:23 -0500 From: trapper@cillnet.com (Brad Everett) Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth Trapper, Trek'n through time, backwards! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:32 PM Subject: MtMan-List: oil cloth > For those considering making one, I just finished a neat little 7.5X7.5 oil > cloth out of a queen size Egyptian cotton sheet. (220 threads per inch!) > Baker sez you need two days in the sun to dry, and seven in the shade to > loose the smell... > Ymos, > Magpie HI magpie, just did a new haversack made of linen the same way. It dryed in about two days in the sun and three in the shade, but its been going on three weeks now, with very high humidity,and the odor is still quite strong. But it is quite waterproof and sure does look purty! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:52:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Sega Subject: Re: MtMan-List: oil cloth As fer Oil cloth, I have found it to be smelly up to a year after making it, stiff in cold weather, and prone to tear. Now I could have used too much linseed, and or had poor quality linseed. but I have experimented on smaller stuff in differing quantities and amounts of iron oxide linseed thinner and so on. I've found it to be more trouble to make than it is worth Smoked canvas turns water well enough in my book. What are you experiences with its use? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ End of hist_text-digest V1 #833 ******************************* - To unsubscribe to hist_text-digest, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com" with "unsubscribe hist_text-digest" in the body of the message.