From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #847 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Tuesday, August 28 2001 Volume 01 : Number 847 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Old Bottles -       MtMan-List: r'vous, where? -       Re: MtMan-List: Old Bottles -       MtMan-List: old bottles -       MtMan-List: hot heads and hats -       Re: MtMan-List: clothing for women (was: Boys Clothing) -       Re: MtMan-List: hot heads and hats -       Re: MtMan-List: hot heads and hats -       Re: MtMan-List: r'vous, where? -       MtMan-List: willow pack -       Re: MtMan-List: willow pack -       Re: MtMan-List: r'vous, where? -       Re: MtMan-List: willow pack -       Re: MtMan-List: willow pack -       Re: MtMan-List: willow pack -       Re: MtMan-List: willow pack -       MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #846 -       MtMan-List: Book Review: The Trade -       MtMan-List: Remember the AMM Eastern in Virginia in October! -       Re: MtMan-List: Remember the AMM Eastern in Virginia in October! -       Re: MtMan-List: willow pack -       Re: MtMan-List: willow pack -       Re: MtMan-List: Chouteau Days -       Re: MtMan-List: willow pack -       Re: MtMan-List: willow pack -       MtMan-List: Buffalo Restoration -       Re: MtMan-List: Old Bottles -       Re: MtMan-List: willow pack -       Re: MtMan-List: Book Review: The Trade -       Re: MtMan-List: Old Bottles ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 03:08:58 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Old Bottles In a message dated 8/25/01 5:08:58 PM, mia3wolves@msn.com writes: << I collect old bottles, also. I have been told by antique dealers that the value is ruined if you clean them. >> Oops..... Dinna mean to send that last yet.... Anyway Maryln.... I never could figure that out. A bunch of old crusty lime and who knows what, stain on a bottle makes it worth more! I use the bottles, so it's nice to have em kinda clean. <> Aaaaah....... don't think I'll be drinking out of the rainbow patina bottles.... Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:06:36 -0500 From: "Frank Fusco" Subject: MtMan-List: r'vous, where? A common practice [failing?] on this list, and others, is to discuss an event without fully mentioning where it was or will be. The Riverton Rendezvous may be known to some on this list, but others, like yours truly, do not know what state it is in. Knowing if it is 200 or 2000 miles from home sure would be a big help in deciding whether or not attending is possible. Frank G. Fusco Mountain Home, Arkansas http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 11:14:38 -0400 From: manbear Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Old Bottles I'd rather drink out of those that the ones I've dug out of old privies. Talk about getting Sh** Faced..;-) Manbear SWcushing@aol.com wrote: ><> >Aaaaah....... don't think I'll be drinking out of the rainbow patina >bottles.... > > > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:17:24 -0500 From: "Frank Fusco" Subject: MtMan-List: old bottles Marlyn Adams said, <. I have been told by antique dealers that the value is ruined if you clean them. Most of my bottles come from garbage dumps and have the rainbow patina. Cleaning ruins this.> Marlyn, I too, have sold and traded antiques for many years. From my experience, one statement I can make with absolute authority is that most antique dealers do not know what the 'h' they are talking about. I believe [my opinion] that from my observations old bottles sell quicker and bring a higher price if they are cleaned first and the so-called patina removed. Rinsing any old glassware with vinegar is a very old antiquers trick to clean and sparkle glass. That does not "ruin" the old glass. Frank G. Fusco Mountain Home, Arkansas http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 10:25:27 -0500 From: "Frank Fusco" Subject: MtMan-List: hot heads and hats Mike W. said, Mike, you obviously have been keeping a cool head. Only those with previously fried brains would claim that heavy, warm clothes are "cooler" in hot summer weather than light airy clothes. I have some friends that are Civil War [can we say that on this list?] re-enactors. They claim that they are comfortable in their heavy wool CW uniforms during 90 and 100 degree weather. They'll say this while in their death throes from heat prostration. Personally, I often wish a mesh baseball style cap had been in wide use pre-1840 as 'authentically correct' hats are really uncomfortable in hot weather and going bareheaded does not shade the eyes. Frank G. Fusco Mountain Home, Arkansas http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 09:43:44 -0600 From: Angela Gottfred Subject: Re: MtMan-List: clothing for women (was: Boys Clothing) At 12:58 AM 8/26/01 -0600, "Larry Huber" wrote: >My son wore a shirt of my wife's making, moccasins of my making but the narrow >fall, drop front drawers were made by Jas Townsend and Son. Their goods are >well-made, authentic and inexpensive. Townsend's stuff for men & boys is good. Unfortunately, the're not as good when it comes to women's clothing, as they continue to offer the "French bodice" (http://www.jastown.com/womens/fb-142.htm) & "English bodice" (http://www.jastown.com/womens/eb-141.htm), even though there is *no* documentation for these garments being worn in America or Britain in the 18th or 19th centuries. Their shortgown & bedgown, though, are good. Caveat emptor! Your humble & obedient servant, Angela Gottfred - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 14:20:26 -0500 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hot heads and hats Hasn't anyone on this list ever heard of evaporative cooling? It works as well on your head as on a water bag, swamp cooler, or spring well. In the desert a canvas hat, long sleeve cotton shirt, and long cotton pants, (feel free to substitute hemp and or linen for cotton) is comfortable if you simply stay wet. This technique does not work so well in humid areas. It works swell with a 4x beaver. A man with only a felt hat is smarter to wear it on a bright shiny day. When you're on the trail you haven't got room to be packing spare large brim hats in oversize boxes to keep them pretty and pristine. Use those damn silly, one size fits nobody, mesh caps and burn your brains out: what's a little melanoma on the top of your head? John... At 10:25 AM 8/26/01 -0500, you wrote: >Mike W. said, > hats on in the summer. Does that make sense? Off hand, it seems like a >wool >hat would be best for winter and a straw hat best for summer.> > Mike, you obviously have been keeping a cool head. Only those with >previously fried brains would claim that heavy, warm clothes are "cooler" in >hot summer weather than light airy clothes. > I have some friends that are Civil War [can we say that on this list?] >re-enactors. They claim that they are comfortable in their heavy wool CW >uniforms during 90 and 100 degree weather. They'll say this while in their >death throes from heat prostration. > Personally, I often wish a mesh baseball style cap had been in wide use >pre-1840 as 'authentically correct' hats are really uncomfortable in hot >weather and going bareheaded does not shade the eyes. >Frank G. Fusco >Mountain Home, Arkansas Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. John Kramer - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:12:07 -0600 From: Mike Moore Subject: Re: MtMan-List: hot heads and hats As a person who works outside about 8-9 months a year, I'd like to put in my 2 cents on the straw/ flet hat debate. I am a house painter who has about 60- 70% of my jobs being exteriors. I have used a straw hat for the last four years. They are cheap, cooler and protect my face better than any other hat I have found. I even have a better straw hat which I use when not working and go to events where it is not formal. And as some one how has had four skin cancer places removed (and another which I'm sure my doctor will say needs it), I find these hats the best I can use. They protect my ears, temples and the back of the neck. In my business I am seeing alot of trademen who are coming up with the same cancers on ears, sides of the face and necks. And I tell every one of them to switch. There are differences in styles and weaves, so you need to find one which let air through, have wide brims and still shade well the face. Many on my customers probably wouldn't reconginze me with out one and I feel that they work well. I also own a 4x beaver hat from Clearwater Hats (they are nice!). But I sweat more in it and they are alot heavier. A lot of people will say their ideas and opponions on styles and myths associated with felt hats, but they are not perfect. They will burn from a stray spark and once burned can not be fixed. (so you will also have a sun spot where it is), I have a few friends who have bullet holes, burn marks and othere holes in their felt hats, and while these do add character to it, they can't be repaired like on a straw hat. I have used straw hats on canoe trips, horse rides and alot of weekend camps where they can be advantage. mike. p.s. Hardtack tells me that in the famous picture of Joseph Walker riding on his horse with his Indian wife behind him (Alfred Jacon Miller), he is wearing a wide brim, straw hat. He might be right! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:10:05 EDT From: MarkLoader@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: r'vous, where? - --part1_a3.1af6d8f6.28bae9dd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Riverton is in west central Wyoming and was the site of the 1830 and 1838 rendezvous. It is well worth the time it takes Mark "Roadkill" Loader - --part1_a3.1af6d8f6.28bae9dd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Riverton is in west central Wyoming and was the site of the 1830 and 1838
rendezvous. It is well worth the time it takes
Mark "Roadkill" Loader - --part1_a3.1af6d8f6.28bae9dd_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:17:23 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: willow pack Well.....here it is boys and girls, the finished pack, and dam if I ain't kinda proud of it! Onlyest took me a couple weeks, a case and a half of MGD, half a jug of JD, and near a pint of blood from the needle pokes. The frame is rawhide laced willow with the cross poles inleted into the uprights, and gluded. The bag is hand sewn (take note John) linen/cotton canvas with tanned moose leather at the bottom...and bees wax for waterproofing. pac2.jpg http://members.aol.com/swcushing/pac2.jpg pac1.jpg http://members.aol.com/swcushing/pac1.jpg As soon as my fingers heal, I'll sew sumtin else up....and nope, I ain't takein orders..... Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:58:32 -0400 From: tom roberts Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack Pack looks really good, but what in the world is it parked in front of?? BTW, you might wish to get a couple of buffalo scraps (hair on) and fashion some shoulder pads for the narrow straps if you plan to carry much weight for much distance. Tom SWcushing@aol.com wrote: > > Well.....here it is boys and girls, the finished pack, and dam if I ain't > kinda proud of it! Onlyest took me a couple weeks, a case and a half of MGD, > half a jug of JD, and near a pint of blood from the needle pokes. > > The frame is rawhide laced willow with the cross poles inleted into the > uprights, and gluded. The bag is hand sewn (take note John) linen/cotton > canvas with tanned moose leather at the bottom...and bees wax for > waterproofing. > > pac2.jpg > http://members.aol.com/swcushing/pac2.jpg > pac1.jpg > http://members.aol.com/swcushing/pac1.jpg > > As soon as my fingers heal, I'll sew sumtin else up....and nope, I ain't > takein orders..... > > Ymos, > Magpie > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 21:43:36 -0600 From: Allen Hall Subject: Re: MtMan-List: r'vous, where? Frank, Riverton, Wyoming. On the approximate site of the 1838 rendezvous (junction of the Wind River and the Popo Agie). Held over the 4th of July week. At 10:06 AM 08/26/2001 -0500, you wrote: > A common practice [failing?] on this list, and others, is to discuss an >event without fully mentioning where it was or will be. > The Riverton Rendezvous may be known to some on this list, but others, >like yours truly, do not know what state it is in. Knowing if it is 200 or >2000 miles from home sure would be a big help in deciding whether or not >attending is possible. >Frank G. Fusco >Mountain Home, Arkansas >http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/ozarksmuzzleloaders > > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 21:13:21 -0700 From: "rtlahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack Tom, Of course he plans on carrying some weight some distance, when he packs out our elk! Capt. Lahti' - ----- Original Message ----- From: tom roberts To: Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 5:58 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack > Pack looks really good, but what in the world is > it parked in front of?? > > BTW, you might wish to get a couple of buffalo scraps > (hair on) and fashion some shoulder pads for the > narrow straps if you plan to carry much weight for > much distance. > > Tom > > SWcushing@aol.com wrote: > > > > Well.....here it is boys and girls, the finished pack, and dam if I ain't > > kinda proud of it! Onlyest took me a couple weeks, a case and a half of MGD, > > half a jug of JD, and near a pint of blood from the needle pokes. > > > > The frame is rawhide laced willow with the cross poles inleted into the > > uprights, and gluded. The bag is hand sewn (take note John) linen/cotton > > canvas with tanned moose leather at the bottom...and bees wax for > > waterproofing. > > > > pac2.jpg > > http://members.aol.com/swcushing/pac2.jpg > > pac1.jpg > > http://members.aol.com/swcushing/pac1.jpg > > > > As soon as my fingers heal, I'll sew sumtin else up....and nope, I ain't > > takein orders..... > > > > Ymos, > > Magpie > > > > ---------------------- > > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:33:56 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack In a message dated 8/26/01 5:59:27 PM, troberts@gdi.net writes: << Pack looks really good, but what in the world is it parked in front of?? >> Thanks! ..... Yer gonna have to get out more often Tom....its leanin against my teepee..... <> Good idea....you got any you'll part with? Draggin Capt Lahti up and down the hills this fall is gonna hurt without em.... Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:39:24 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack In a message dated 8/26/01 5:59:27 PM, troberts@gdi.net writes: << Pack looks really good, but what in the world is it parked in front of?? >> Forgot to add this.... tipi.jpg http://members.aol.com/swcushing/tipi.jpg - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 00:01:10 -0500 From: John Kramer Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack Mighty purty. How does it feel on your back when you carry it full? I'm sure the Capt'n will make good use of your new ability to work harder in his best interest. It is good to bleed, drains off the poisons and bad blood. Its a period thing to do. John... At 08:17 PM 8/26/01 -0400, you wrote: >Well.....here it is boys and girls, the finished pack, and dam if I ain't >kinda proud of it! Onlyest took me a couple weeks, a case and a half of MGD, >half a jug of JD, and near a pint of blood from the needle pokes. > >The frame is rawhide laced willow with the cross poles inleted into the >uprights, and gluded. The bag is hand sewn (take note John) linen/cotton >canvas with tanned moose leather at the bottom...and bees wax for >waterproofing. Use it up, wear it out, make do, or do without. John Kramer - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 23:08:13 -0600 From: "Kim & Jen" Subject: MtMan-List: Re: hist_text-digest V1 #846 Hau, John; My wife, Jenaka has answered some of the questions about the 1838 Rendezvous Association and the site that we oversee so, I'll just make a comment on your mention of Jake Korrel. You are definitely right about him being the genuine article. I've been trapping for over 40 years, off and on, myself and have learned a lot from Ol' Jake. He is a member of the Association and the shooting range on the site is dedicated to him. I don't know if you know it or not but he was nominated a few years ago to the National Trapper's Association's Hall of Fame. I know this because I am the one who nominated him. He became number 8 in the Hall of Fame and the seven preceding him were all deceased. There are quite a few new members in the Hall of Fame since that first year but, in my opinion, none more sincere and giving of his time and energies to the youth of the area here, in Fremont County, Wyoming and to the trappers in general. He was a fur buyer for years and always gave fair prices and good advice. Also, you are right about the Association financing the stone engraving. Rick from Rick's Rocks is the engraver and he still takes care of our needs whenever we find another mountain man or missionary that can be documented as there during either the 1830 or 1838 rondy's. Mitakuye Oyasin CallsTheWind > > > > Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 00:17:44 EDT > > From: Hawkengun@aol.com > > Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Riverton Rendezvous > > > > I'm not sure who did the stonework, but there is a Riverton Rendezvous > Assoc. > > that probably financed it. They hold a ronnyvoo every 4th of July week. > > Riverton, besides being the site of the 1830 and 1830 rendezvous' is also > > home to Jake Korell, the most genuine trapper/packer/Indian > trader/mountain > > man still living and breathing. (Just my opinion, of course, but I'll > stick > > to it) > > > > John Sweet - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 16:39:11 -0600 From: Angela Gottfred Subject: MtMan-List: Book Review: The Trade My summer reading included the novel _The Trade_, by Fred Stenson. The story takes place from 1822 to the late 1840's, and the action centres on the Hudson Bay Company's fur trade, particularly in Alberta at this time. I didn't notice any purely fictional characters; instead, I was entranced by the parade of historical characters, which included George Simpson, Edward Harriott, John Rowand, Rev. Rundle, Paul Kane, Jimmy Jock Bird, with cameos by Dr. John McLoughlin and William Connolly. I was fascinated by Stenson's unusual, yet credible, take on them. I found Stenson's unorthodox characterization of Simpson quite believable, in the light of the HBC Governor's known track record. Stenson also gives Rev. Rundle a rough ride, but what he says tallies fairly well with Rundle's own journal, which I read several years ago. I do wish that he'd mentioned that Rundle did, eventually, learn Cree. The main plot, about a doomed love, was reminiscent of a Victorian melodrama, but I found it interesting & enjoyable just the same. For me, it was the characters & Stenson's perspective on them which really carried the book. Gripes: Very few female characters. Occasional references to beards and tricornes, which I don't believe were very prevalent during the period. Stenson also consistently uses the word "fuke" for "musket"; I only recall seeing this term in very early fur trade documents, c. 1774. I didn't see it used in Samuel Black's 1824 journal, which I was reading at the same time as The Trade. Overall, though, it's important to keep in mind that this is a work of fiction, and not to worry over much about these small details. Many other small details, like the abandonment of old Matooskie, and the punishment of the deserters from the Rocky Mountain Expedition, are correct, and show that Stenson was working hard to do a good job. This book succeeds admirably at bringing Canadian history to life without abandoning historic accuracy. Your humble & obedient servant, Angela Gottfred - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:45:57 EDT From: Bvrlry@aol.com Subject: MtMan-List: Remember the AMM Eastern in Virginia in October! Don't forget the AMM Eastern in Virginia this October. The site if beee-u-tiful! - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:07:13 -0500 From: "Paul W. Jones" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Remember the AMM Eastern in Virginia in October! Does the Booshway of this event have an e-mail address? Regards, Paul - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 8:45 AM Subject: MtMan-List: Remember the AMM Eastern in Virginia in October! > Don't forget the AMM Eastern in Virginia this October. The site if > beee-u-tiful! > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:29:40 EDT From: LODGEPOLE@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack Magpie, Your packframe looks GREAT! I made mine in somewhat the same way only for the first try I just used wood dowels. Will try the willow on the next try. One suggestion that has worked well for me would be to crisscross the shoulder straps at the top. Keeps them from wanting to slip over your shoulder. Longshot - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:40:46 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack In a message dated 8/26/01 10:03:48 PM, kramer@kramerize.com writes: << I'm sure the Capt'n will make good use of your new ability to work harder in his best interest. >> Haaaaaa....He thinks I'm gonna pack him up and down the hills on this Fall hunt.... I can, but it'll be in quarters....> You can't see it in the jpg,s but I dried the willow on a form that put about a 1 1/2" bend in both uprights. That, with the cross pieces spaced properly, the leather back brace, and the buffalo shoulder pads Bead Shooter is sending me... I shouldn't be too paralyzed after a heavy pack. <> VBG..... Yeah....but I'm allergic to pain. I remain, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 13:28:19 EDT From: TrapRJoe@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Chouteau Days - --part1_8c.bb9cf17.28bbdd33_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George, I think I have to work that weekend. If I can I will be there though Joe - --part1_8c.bb9cf17.28bbdd33_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George, I think I have to work that weekend.  If I can I will be there though

                                                      Joe - --part1_8c.bb9cf17.28bbdd33_boundary-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:05:49 -0400 From: tom roberts Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack > > Thanks! ..... Yer gonna have to get out more often Tom....its leanin against > my teepee..... Oh, that's what it is! Thought it might have been the leading edge of one of them crop circle burning UFO's. Mighty colorful! > > < (hair on) and fashion some shoulder pads>> > Good idea....you got any you'll part with? Draggin Capt Lahti up and down the > hills this fall is gonna hurt without em.... Yep, I might have a couple scraps. Trade you for some of the Capt's elk meat. Tom - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 20:17:19 -0400 From: tom roberts Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack Pretty amazing! Did you paint it? Tom SWcushing@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 8/26/01 5:59:27 PM, troberts@gdi.net writes: > > << Pack looks really good, but what in the world is > it parked in front of?? >> > > Forgot to add this.... > > tipi.jpg > http://members.aol.com/swcushing/tipi.jpg > > ---------------------- > hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 21:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: JONDMARINETTI@webtv.net (Jon Marinetti) Subject: MtMan-List: Buffalo Restoration USA Today, Mon. 08-27-01, p.8A South Dakota: Rosebud - The Rosebud Sioux Tribe has endorsed a plan to bring back buffalo to a potentially vast tract of land on the Great Plains. It's the first American Indian tribe to embrace the Million Acre Project. The Great Plains Restoration Council of Denver is raising money to buy land and also plans to work with private landowners, tribes, and local governments to patch together a contiguous 1 million acres in the region for the buffalo preserve. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ from Michigan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: 27 Aug 2001 20:53:11 -0600 From: Phyllis and Don Keas Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Old Bottles My wife has been a collector of old bottles for years. I would guess the = dealers are trying to get them bought at a much lower price. After all, = when you see them for sale at the stores they have been cleaned up haven't = they? As a matter of fact, most of the ones she has, she dug out of old = out houses and we use them. On Sunday, October 13, 1940, Maryln Adams wrote: >I collect old bottles, also. I have been told by antique dealers that = the=20 >value is ruined if you clean them. Most of my bottles come from garbage=20 >dumps and have the rainbow patina. Cleaning ruins this. Of course, if = you=20 >are using them then they would have to be cleaned! > > > >>From: SWcushing@aol.com >>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >>Subject: MtMan-List: Old Bottles >>Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:53:20 EDT >> >>Hallo the List, >> >>Like some, it's hard for me to pass by a neat old bottle (hard to pass = some >>neat new bottles too...). I've got some real old ones in my = collection, >>but some need the inside cleaned. I came up with the idea of using >>"efferdent" to soak the inside clean, but dinna work. >>Now I've got one full of vinegar, and will wait till tomorrow to see if=20 >>that >>does the trick. Has anyone come up with a solution that works? >> >>Ymos, >>Magpie >> >>---------------------- >>hist_text list info: >http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > >---------------------- >hist_text list info: >http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html > - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 23:57:09 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: willow pack In a message dated 8/27/01 5:18:26 PM, troberts@gdi.net writes: << Pretty amazing! Did you paint it? >> Naw....ain't that handy. Nomadic tipis has a lady that does the pictographs of buffalo...I kinda like it. Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 00:05:04 EDT From: SWcushing@aol.com Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Book Review: The Trade In a message dated 8/27/01 5:17:30 AM, agottfre@telusplanet.net writes: << This book succeeds admirably at bringing Canadian history to life without abandoning historic accuracy. >> Great review Angela. Can you recommend any books on the Hudson's Bay Co. in the Northwest? I'm most interested in the Fort Vancouver, Fort Nisqually, and Fort Langley.....my area of the woods. Ymos, Magpie - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 06:28:48 -0400 From: "Maryln Adams" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Old Bottles If you mean the mud off yes. They have been rinsed in water. As far a cleaning off the patina, which I assume is mineral deposit, the ones that I have bought from dealeres still have that on it. Most of mine were not purchased. I do not use my old bottles. Heck! I probably just break them and many of them are one of a kind and can't easily be replaced. I guess it is one of those indvidual preference thing. As for me, I do not want an old bottle to look new. And, yes the dealers are making a killing on some of these bottles in recent years. >From: Phyllis and Don Keas >Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com >To: >Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Old Bottles >Date: 27 Aug 2001 20:53:11 -0600 > >My wife has been a collector of old bottles for years. I would guess the >dealers are trying to get them bought at a much lower price. After all, >when you see them for sale at the stores they have been cleaned up haven't >they? As a matter of fact, most of the ones she has, she dug out of old >out houses and we use them. > >On Sunday, October 13, 1940, Maryln Adams wrote: > >I collect old bottles, also. I have been told by antique dealers that >the > >value is ruined if you clean them. Most of my bottles come from garbage > >dumps and have the rainbow patina. Cleaning ruins this. Of course, if >you > >are using them then they would have to be cleaned! > > > > > > > >>From: SWcushing@aol.com > >>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > >>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com > >>Subject: MtMan-List: Old Bottles > >>Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2001 19:53:20 EDT > >> > >>Hallo the List, > >> > >>Like some, it's hard for me to pass by a neat old bottle (hard to pass >some > >>neat new bottles too...). I've got some real old ones in my >collection, > >>but some need the inside cleaned. I came up with the idea of using > >>"efferdent" to soak the inside clean, but dinna work. > >>Now I've got one full of vinegar, and will wait till tomorrow to see if > >>that > >>does the trick. 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