From: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com (hist_text-digest) To: hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: hist_text-digest V1 #956 Reply-To: hist_text Sender: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-hist_text-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk hist_text-digest Wednesday, February 13 2002 Volume 01 : Number 956 In this issue: -       Re: MtMan-List: Demmick info -       Re: MtMan-List: off topic -       Re: MtMan-List: off topic -       Re: MtMan-List: off topic -       Re: MtMan-List: MLML -       Re: MtMan-List: off topic -       Re: MtMan-List: off topic -       MtMan-List: Still somewhat off topic -       MtMan-List: Heritage, blame and the nature of a freetrapper -       MtMan-List: Who is the TROLL? -       MtMan-List: Who is the TROLL? -       MtMan-List: Who is the TROLL? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:27:11 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Demmick info This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C1B481.61518D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks will do Got a letter from list owner other list lol Id better straighten up is basic context He still thinks Im someone he booted off sometime ago, because of my name He thinks Windwalker is a alias. Think he may be in for a surprize in more ways then one. Sam ----- Original Message -----=20 From: hawknest4@juno.com=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:10 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: Demmick info On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:53:58 -0500 "WindWalker" = writes: Does anyone have source on internet for pictures of Demmick Rifles? Im having little luck finding via web search engines. Thanks Sam SAM don steith makes dimick rifles copied from his original ---can link = you up with him if that is what you want---they are very similar to a = hawken except for the trigger guard and the keys a outstanding offhand = gun usually of smaller caliber than a hawken---most dimicks also have = brass hardware but some were made in steel--BTW they were also a st = louis gun---they were located at 38 north main in st louis in = 1859-60---there is a nice picture on page 35 of hansons book " the = plains rifle" suggest you look up H.E. Dimick and co which was located in st louis = mo in the 1800's---they are on the tax rolls and there is some = documentation there also---a copy of the dimick barrel stamp is on page = 56 of hansons book also--- "HAWK" Michael Pierce "Home of the "Old Grizz (C) product line & "the = Arkansas Underhammers" 854 Glenfield Dr Palm Harbor, Florida 34684 Phone: 1-727-771-1815 e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com web = site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce - ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C1B481.61518D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks will do
Got a letter from list owner other list = lol
Id better straighten up is basic=20 context
He still thinks Im someone he booted=20 off
sometime ago, because of my = name
He thinks Windwalker is a = alias.
Think he may be in for a surprize in = more ways then=20 one.
Sam
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 hawknest4@juno.com
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, = 2002 11:10=20 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: = Demmick=20 info

 
 
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:53:58 -0500 "WindWalker" <windwalker@fastmail.fm>=20 writes:
Does anyone have source on internet = for=20 pictures
of Demmick Rifles?
Im having little luck finding via = web search=20 engines.
Thanks
Sam
 
SAM
don steith makes dimick rifles copied from his original ---can = link you=20 up with him if that is what you want---they are very similar to a = hawken=20 except for the trigger guard and the keys  a outstanding offhand = gun=20 usually of smaller caliber than a hawken---most dimicks also have = brass=20 hardware but some were made in steel--BTW they were also a st louis = gun---they=20 were located at 38 north main in st louis in 1859-60---there is a nice = picture=20 on page 35 of hansons book " the plains rifle"
 
suggest you look up H.E. Dimick and co which was located in st = louis mo=20 in the 1800's---they are on the tax rolls and there is some = documentation=20 there also---a copy of the dimick barrel stamp is on page 56 of = hansons book=20 also---

"HAWK"
Michael Pierce   "Home of the "Old = Grizz =20 (C) product line & "the Arkansas Underhammers"
854 Glenfield = Dr
Palm=20 Harbor,   Florida   =20 = 34684           &n= bsp;=20 Phone: 1-727-771-1815
e-mail: hawknest4@juno.com   web=20 = site:http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/mpierce
- ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C1B481.61518D80-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:45:27 -0800 From: "rtlahti" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C1B473.2B06F700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As are yours. Capt. Lahti' - ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C1B473.2B06F700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
<Your thoughts so = noted.>
 
As are yours.
 
Capt. Lahti'
 
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_00ED_01C1B473.2B06F700-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:46:53 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C1B484.21B6DEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nuff said ----- Original Message -----=20 From: rtlahti=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:45 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic As are yours. Capt. Lahti' - ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C1B484.21B6DEC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
nuff said
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 rtlahti =
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, = 2002 12:45=20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off = topic

 
<Your thoughts so = noted.>
 
As are yours.
 
Capt. Lahti'
 
 
 
- ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C1B484.21B6DEC0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:49:58 -0500 From: "Double Edge Forge" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C1B48C.F15E6140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Then we see posts on Remington 700,s?" Sam, That was on a Rem 700 INLINE..... Modern, but still a ML... D - ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C1B48C.F15E6140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"Then we see posts on Remington=20 700,s?"
 
Sam,
 That was on a Rem 700 INLINE..... = Modern, but=20 still a ML...
D
- ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C1B48C.F15E6140-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:54:47 -0500 From: "Addison Miller" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: MLML > He has put Ad Miller on warning, and he is one of the moderators. Kicked > "Hawk" off and who knows how many others. > > GENE Yep.... he sure did. Said I had too many "one liners", and I took offense to a remark he made which I took as personal, and PRIVATELY told him so. Well, it went to the moderators and I thought it went to TOF. It sorta went down hill from there. Still not real sure why Hawk was booted, but probably because he disagreed with TOF. Hey... TOF owns the list, and if want to be there, we gotta swallow alot and go along with him. I did because I have learned alot, and gotten alot of laughs from some of the ideas that come across there. Obduration (sp), ballistics, loads, etc... some of them are pretty funny. The point is, he lets his "Buds" make one liners all day, and if you are not with the "in" group, you get chastised for it. At least that is how I see it. Regards, Ad Miller - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:56:54 -0500 From: "WindWalker" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C1B485.88103C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry Never seen one...must be something new over the years ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Double Edge Forge=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic "Then we see posts on Remington 700,s?" Sam, That was on a Rem 700 INLINE..... Modern, but still a ML... D - ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C1B485.88103C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry
Never seen one...must be something new = over the=20 years
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Double Edge=20 Forge
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, = 2002 12:49=20 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off = topic

"Then we see posts on Remington=20 700,s?"
 
Sam,
 That was on a Rem 700 = INLINE..... Modern,=20 but still a ML...
D
- ------=_NextPart_000_00A1_01C1B485.88103C60-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:06:42 -0500 From: "Double Edge Forge" Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C1B48F.47D2B9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No apology needed.... Pretty new on the market, don't like 'em, think = states shouldn't allow them in the same catagory with bp guns, but they = are here to stay, I fear.. D ----- Original Message -----=20 From: WindWalker=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic Sorry Never seen one...must be something new over the years ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Double Edge Forge=20 To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off topic "Then we see posts on Remington 700,s?" Sam, That was on a Rem 700 INLINE..... Modern, but still a ML... D - ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C1B48F.47D2B9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No apology needed.... Pretty new on the = market,=20 don't like 'em, think states shouldn't allow them in the same catagory = with bp=20 guns, but they are here to stay, I fear..
D
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 WindWalker
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, = 2002 11:56=20 AM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off = topic

Sorry
Never seen one...must be something = new over the=20 years
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Double Edge=20 Forge
To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com= =20
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, = 2002=20 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: MtMan-List: off=20 topic

"Then we see posts on Remington=20 700,s?"
 
Sam,
 That was on a Rem 700 = INLINE..... Modern,=20 but still a ML...
D
- ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C1B48F.47D2B9C0-- - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:14:28 -0500 From: hikingonthru@cs.com Subject: MtMan-List: Still somewhat off topic >A tiny tidbit of history that was once common but is largely forgotten now >and will never be mentioned in the history books. I would like to respond to Lanney's comment that has a LOT of sage wisdom in it. It seems that what truly tells us about a culture or historical period is the minutia of daily living. The commmon things and items. That is the marrow of the society. Ever see anyone go nuts of an "original" Bess or other firelock? The Smithsonian employs persons whose entire livelihood is to collect and catalogue bits of American 'daily life'. They even have Silly Putty and kids' lunchboxes catalogued and tucked away. So those of you who think it silly of impractical to keep a record if not the actual items....maybe we need to rethink that. Would it not be nice is someone for a few generations in the family had kept Uncle so'n'so's traps oiled as well as the trade gun he got while "out west" trapping for some company? If it is good enough for the Smithsonian.... - -C.Kent - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:37:03 -0500 From: hikingonthru@cs.com Subject: MtMan-List: Heritage, blame and the nature of a freetrapper "WindWalker" wrote: >Was turned down right off to join the list because of my name..really think was turned down due to my heritage..< Hate to chime in (nah, not really) but I think that comment is not grounded in truth. Many folks have "handles" that are "native-sounding" whether they actually are or not. And many people on the list have a WIDE variety of cultural, regional and racial backgrounds and operate just fine on the list. I have made reference to my cherokee background and carried on a dialogue related to that and ML arms used by cherokee in 1700's. Did not get moderated. I think you will find plenty of folks who will express an interest in another's heritage and will surely find some ML info related to that historical background. >Seems to me to be more of a control factor, thus having power in hands to run off members and delete posts at will, thus giving a contol one apparently has no where else.<< True enuf, it appears that way at times but it does tend to get tedious and monotonous if those rules do not get enforced. Just like in a group of people you are sitting around a fire with...you cannot just up and say what you want when you want (at least without a consequence of some sort). >One cant bring much if anything to the table if the majority of posts are rejected can one?<< I had a lot rejected at one time. But to me, I was able to take my personality out of the way to learn a little and it was worth it. >Naw.. but maybe thats just why in olden days. there were "company" trappers... and then again there were "Freetrappers" Good thing about this country. You don't like something...you are free to pull up stakes and move on if that is how your stick floats. By the by, you MAY see some flareup about blaming stuff on heritage. We each must step outside ourselves to look within ourselves for the source of a problem before we can overcome it. We can only change ourselves anyway. Blaming one's problem - big or small - on others' attitudes or actions is only enslaving yourselves to them. Avoiding that is liberating yourself!!! THAT IS THE NATURE OF A FREETRAPPER!!! That is why they were able to work independently TOGETHER!!!! Just how my stick floats. - -C.Kent - ---------------------- hist_text list info: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/mtman/maillist.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:09:38 -0800 From: "SUE RAVEN" Subject: MtMan-List: Who is the TROLL?



>From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BoB Trapping' Article
>Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 21:03:33 EST
>
>blond40DD... wrote: <<"But I have been getting some ardent off-list e-mails
>from a few on the list. I really do not want anyone lingering around or
>knocking at my door, or whatever.">>
>
>Folks, once again I refer you to the following website to learn what you may
>be dealing with here. The above statement was thrown into a thread on
>'trapping'. How ironic.
>
>Internet Trolls
>
>Please take the time to read about PLAYTIME and TACTICAL TROLLS, and I think
>you'll come to understand how they are capable of wasting your (and a list's)
>time and energy...
>
>Also, keep in mind that 'Sue Raven' appeared about the time 'Clint Garrett'
>disappeared; has created plenty of controversy since that time, and slammed
>virtually all of us in post(s).
>
>Like the website says... if you think you're dealing with a Troll, it's best

>to ignore rather than encourage them. Barney

IT SEEMS THAT ONCE A GOOD DISCUSSION GETS UNDER WAY, SOMEONE COMES OUT OF THE WOODS AND CREATES A RIOT.  i MEAN WE HAD A TRULLY GREAT BEAVER TRAPPING DEBATE.  UNTIL SOMEONE THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO COME UNGLUED. 

YOU MEN TALK AND CLAIM OF THE INJUSTICE OF THE OTHER SITE, THEN YOU TURN THIS ONE INTO SOMETHING LESS THAN DISCUSSION. 

I FOR ONE DO NOT KNOW THIS GARRET CHARACTER.  MAYBE HE IS OR WAS AN AMM OFFICER WHO FELL FROM GRACE WITH YOU.  I DO NOT CARE.  MAYBE HE WAS THE ONE IN ARIZONA WHO STOLED FROM HIS PARTNER, TONY SOMETHING THAT DAD TOLD ME OF.  HIS PATNER BEING IN A DRAWING IN THE MUZZLELOADER SERIES(INSIDE COVER).  I DO NOT CARE.  MAYBE THE MAJORITY HERE HAVE SUCH A FRUSTRATED TIME WITH THEIR WIFE AND CAREER THAT THEY BREAK OUT IN THESE TANGENTS.  WHO CARES.  WHAT EVER THE EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE AND HAVE TO STIR UP TROBLE RATHER THAN DISCUSS ANYTHING I DON'T CARE.  AND FOR THOSE WHOM ARE JUST FREAK PARASITES WHOM TRIVE ON THIS MAYHEM, I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE SITE YOU ARE CREATING.

SUE RAVEN,

NOT GARRET'S GHOST. 

THE WAY YOU GUYS ARE ACTING I WOULD SAY THAT WHATEVER THE PROBLEM WAS.  YOU REATIONS SAY THAT YOU MAY BE REALLY MAD BECAUSE GARRET WOULDN'T BOW OR ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SUPPOSED DEITY AND AUTHORITY. 

AND THEY CALL MY GENDER BITCHES

>
>

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>From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BoB Trapping' Article
>Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 21:03:33 EST
>
>blond40DD... wrote: <<"But I have been getting some ardent off-list e-mails
>from a few on the list. I really do not want anyone lingering around or
>knocking at my door, or whatever.">>
>
>Folks, once again I refer you to the following website to learn what you may
>be dealing with here. The above statement was thrown into a thread on
>'trapping'. How ironic.
>
>Internet Trolls
>
>Please take the time to read about PLAYTIME and TACTICAL TROLLS, and I think
>you'll come to understand how they are capable of wasting your (and a list's)
>time and energy...
>
>Also, keep in mind that 'Sue Raven' appeared about the time 'Clint Garrett'
>disappeared; has created plenty of controversy since that time, and slammed
>virtually all of us in post(s).
>
>Like the website says... if you think you're dealing with a Troll, it's best

>to ignore rather than encourage them. Barney

IT SEEMS THAT ONCE A GOOD DISCUSSION GETS UNDER WAY, SOMEONE COMES OUT OF THE WOODS AND CREATES A RIOT.  i MEAN WE HAD A TRULLY GREAT BEAVER TRAPPING DEBATE.  UNTIL SOMEONE THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO COME UNGLUED. 

YOU MEN TALK AND CLAIM OF THE INJUSTICE OF THE OTHER SITE, THEN YOU TURN THIS ONE INTO SOMETHING LESS THAN DISCUSSION. 

I FOR ONE DO NOT KNOW THIS GARRET CHARACTER.  MAYBE HE IS OR WAS AN AMM OFFICER WHO FELL FROM GRACE WITH YOU.  I DO NOT CARE.  MAYBE HE WAS THE ONE IN ARIZONA WHO STOLED FROM HIS PARTNER, TONY SOMETHING THAT DAD TOLD ME OF.  HIS PATNER BEING IN A DRAWING IN THE MUZZLELOADER SERIES(INSIDE COVER).  I DO NOT CARE.  MAYBE THE MAJORITY HERE HAVE SUCH A FRUSTRATED TIME WITH THEIR WIFE AND CAREER THAT THEY BREAK OUT IN THESE TANGENTS.  WHO CARES.  WHAT EVER THE EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE AND HAVE TO STIR UP TROBLE RATHER THAN DISCUSS ANYTHING I DON'T CARE.  AND FOR THOSE WHOM ARE JUST FREAK PARASITES WHOM TRIVE ON THIS MAYHEM, I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE SITE YOU ARE CREATING.

SUE RAVEN,

NOT GARRET'S GHOST. 

THE WAY YOU GUYS ARE ACTING I WOULD SAY THAT WHATEVER THE PROBLEM WAS.  YOU REATIONS SAY THAT YOU MAY BE REALLY MAD BECAUSE GARRET WOULDN'T BOW OR ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SUPPOSED DEITY AND AUTHORITY. 

AND THEY CALL MY GENDER BITCHES

>
>

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>From: LivingInThePast@aol.com
>Reply-To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>To: hist_text@lists.xmission.com
>Subject: Re: MtMan-List: BoB Trapping' Article
>Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 21:03:33 EST
>
>blond40DD... wrote: <<"But I have been getting some ardent off-list e-mails
>from a few on the list. I really do not want anyone lingering around or
>knocking at my door, or whatever.">>
>
>Folks, once again I refer you to the following website to learn what you may
>be dealing with here. The above statement was thrown into a thread on
>'trapping'. How ironic.
>
>Internet Trolls
>
>Please take the time to read about PLAYTIME and TACTICAL TROLLS, and I think
>you'll come to understand how they are capable of wasting your (and a list's)
>time and energy...
>
>Also, keep in mind that 'Sue Raven' appeared about the time 'Clint Garrett'
>disappeared; has created plenty of controversy since that time, and slammed
>virtually all of us in post(s).
>
>Like the website says... if you think you're dealing with a Troll, it's best

>to ignore rather than encourage them. Barney

IT SEEMS THAT ONCE A GOOD DISCUSSION GETS UNDER WAY, SOMEONE COMES OUT OF THE WOODS AND CREATES A RIOT.  i MEAN WE HAD A TRULLY GREAT BEAVER TRAPPING DEBATE.  UNTIL SOMEONE THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO COME UNGLUED. 

YOU MEN TALK AND CLAIM OF THE INJUSTICE OF THE OTHER SITE, THEN YOU TURN THIS ONE INTO SOMETHING LESS THAN DISCUSSION. 

I FOR ONE DO NOT KNOW THIS GARRET CHARACTER.  MAYBE HE IS OR WAS AN AMM OFFICER WHO FELL FROM GRACE WITH YOU.  I DO NOT CARE.  MAYBE HE WAS THE ONE IN ARIZONA WHO STOLED FROM HIS PARTNER, TONY SOMETHING THAT DAD TOLD ME OF.  HIS PATNER BEING IN A DRAWING IN THE MUZZLELOADER SERIES(INSIDE COVER).  I DO NOT CARE.  MAYBE THE MAJORITY HERE HAVE SUCH A FRUSTRATED TIME WITH THEIR WIFE AND CAREER THAT THEY BREAK OUT IN THESE TANGENTS.  WHO CARES.  WHAT EVER THE EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS YOU HAVE AND HAVE TO STIR UP TROBLE RATHER THAN DISCUSS ANYTHING I DON'T CARE.  AND FOR THOSE WHOM ARE JUST FREAK PARASITES WHOM TRIVE ON THIS MAYHEM, I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE SITE YOU ARE CREATING.

SUE RAVEN,

NOT GARRET'S GHOST. 

THE WAY YOU GUYS ARE ACTING I WOULD SAY THAT WHATEVER THE PROBLEM WAS.  YOU REATIONS SAY THAT YOU MAY BE REALLY MAD BECAUSE GARRET WOULDN'T BOW OR ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR SUPPOSED DEITY AND AUTHORITY. 

AND THEY CALL MY GENDER BITCHES

>
>

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