From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: FCC Public File Auto-FAQ Date: 01 Dec 2000 00:59:31 PST This "FAQ" is auto-posted once a month via cron triggered script, and may be triggered off by hand from time to time in between if the info is requested by someone, such as when the House recently voted down the AW Ban and the Media threw a hissy fit. The purpose of this FAQ is to inform people what they can do about Media generated lies and misinformation. While the FCC only handles Broadcast Media, (TV and Radio), some of these techniques will work for magazines and newspapers too. If I've missed something, or you find errors, let me know and I'll add/fix it. 1.a. Send letters of complaint to the Station Manager every time it happens with all the time, details, other info, and your complaint(s). 1.b. Send an additional copy for their FCC (Federal Communications Commission) Public file. 1.c. Send an additional copy to the FCC itself, in case they don't put it in their Public file. 2.a. Send a letter of complaint to their Station Owner as per above, with copies as per above (1.b and 1.c). 3. Send copies of their replies to you along with yours to them to their FCC Public file, so that it gets nice and fat, again, with copies to the FCC itself. 4. If you can afford it, send all corespondence by Certified Mail with Return Receipt Requested. Send a copy of the Return Receipt with everything that goes to the FCC itself, so that they will have additional evidence if the Station is cheating on their Public File. 5.a. Go to the Public Library and look up "Standard Rate and Data Services" (SRDS) "Directory of National Advertisers." It is found in many major Libraries (in the business/reference stacks), and lists EVERY current advertiser, who the players are at both the company and advertising agency(s), and the appropriate telephone and fax (and probably E-Mail by now) addresses. If your Library doesn't have it, it can be requested. Otherwise you can watch their commercials for a few days to a week, listing all their advertisers. There are other references that have the addresses for the nation's business headquarters too. look them all up and pass the addresses and phone/FAX numbers etc., around so that everyone can bitch to the sponsors. IF enough people do that, it'll get back to the Station. Tell them if the Station continues their nastiness you'll _consider_ changing to brand(X), (otherwise they'll just write you off as a loss). 5.b. The above, (5.a.), can be a lot easier and less time consuming if you're dealing with a newspaper's or a magazine's ads, as they are right in front of you for the listing. 6. If they put on something good or even just more reasonable, call and compliment them on it, but do _not_ send any kudos to their FCC file, or write to them about it. That way they have to keep it up and hope, as there is nothing good in the file or in writing that they can show the FCC to justify their Station's License. 7. Federal Communications Commission, Complaints and Compliance Division Room 6218, 2025 M Street NW Washington, D.C. 20554 FAX: 202-653-9659 FCC Attn: Edythe Wise -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | The _only_important_difference_ between Nazi-ism, Fascism, weapon in every | Communism, Communitarianism, Socialism and (Neo-)Liberalism hand = Freedom | is the _spelling_, and that the last group hasn't got the on every side! | Collective brains to figure it out. -- Bill Vance - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larry ball Subject: Foreign Aid Date: 01 Dec 2000 14:39:52 -0600 In today's news, Japan sent the USA 50,000,000 cases of Viagra. > > > > They heard that the entire country can't get an election.>>> - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Banksters Plunder The Sheeple........ (fwd) Date: 02 Dec 2000 09:41:59 PST On Dec 2, BOBWORN@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] NO BANKERS' PLUNDER Under a Constitutional system no private banks would exist to rob the people. Government banks under the control of our duly elected public servants would issue and control all money and credit. They would issue not only actual curre4ncy, but would lend limited credit at no usury for the purchase of capitol goods, such as homes. A $40,000.00 loan would require only $40,000.00 repayment, not $126,000.00 as it is now. Everyone who supplied materials and labor for the home would get paid just as they do today, but the bankers would not get $86,000.00 in usury, AND THAT IS WHY THEY RODICULE AND DESTROY ANY INDIVIDUAL, AND OR ANYONE SUGGESTING GOVERNMENT MONEY WITHOUT USURY AND WITHOUT DEBT, History tells us of debt-free and usury-free money issued by governments. The American Colonies did it in the 1700's and their wealth soon rivaled England and brought restrictions from Parliament, which led to the Revolutionary War. Abraham Lincoln did it in 1863 to help finance the Civil War. An agent of the Rothschild Bank later assassinated him. No debt-free or usury-free money has been issued in America since then. Several Arab nations issue interest-free loans to their citizens today. The Saracen Empire forbade usury on money for 1,000 years, and its wealth outshone even Saxon Europe. Mandarin China issued its own money, interest-free and debt-free, and the European traveler, Marco Polo, was astounded by the wealth and the civilization of the Mandarin Empire. Germany issued debt-free and usury-free money from 1935, accounting for its startling rise from the depression to a world power in 5 years. Germany financed its entire government and war operation from 1935 to 1945 without gold and without debt, and it took the whole Capitalist and Communist world to destroy the German power over Europe and bring Europe back under the heel of the bankers. Such history of money does not even appear in the textbooks of public (government controlled) schools today. By the issuance of paper money and credit in the above manner, the nation's total money supply can be increased to meet the nation's needs with no disadvantage to anyone and with advantage to all. All will benefit from the increased ease of exchanging goods and services with more money available. THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE MONEY DOES NOT HAVE TO BE TAXED OR TAKEN OUT OF CIRCULATION TO PAY BACK THE PARASITIC BANKERS. As stated before, it would remain in circulation for generations at no cost to the American people, except for printing replacements for paper currency as it wears out. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [Fratrum] Gun sale (fwd) Date: 02 Dec 2000 09:43:17 PST On Dec 02, Margi Crook wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ubject: Gun Sale Results in Charge of Involuntary Manslaughter Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 06:15:29 -0600 From: Freedom Page To: jhardin@mindspring.com Friends, This is absolutely outrageous. First are comments by Bill Utterback followed by the news account. Jim Hardin The Freedom Page http://www.freedompage.ws To receive Freedom Page mail, put "Subscribe" as subject to freedompage@mindspring.com To be removed, put "Remove" as subject. Alabama Committee To Get Us Out of the UN http://themustardseed.home.mindspring.com Have they lost their minds? Terry Walker sold a pistol to another man. He did not insure that the buyer registered the pistol. How could he force the buyer to do that? A different man used the pistol five years later to kill someone. Walker is accused of "unlawfully killing Wouters ...by failing to fully divest himself of the weapon." The article says "In addition to one count of involuntary manslaughter, prosecutors brought an alternative charge: felon in possession of a firearm. Because Walker was sentenced to probation in August for felony embezzlement from his employer, he should not have owned a gun." Did you get that? Walker sold the pistol five years ago. He was sentenced last August to probation for felony embezzlement. So now he is charged with "felon in possession of a firearm" because the buyer of a pistol which Walker sold more than four years before his conviction failed to register the pistol. Have they lost their minds? No, the powers that be simply want to take from everyone the right to keep and bear arms. If they violate constitutionally protected rights of the people now, what do you suppose they might do if they succeeded in disarming the people? Gun registration historically always leads to gun confiscation. Gun registration is unconstitutional because it infringes on the right of the people to keep and bear arms, a right protected by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution. Don't say "It can't happen here." It is already happening. We need to elect patriots, beginning with local and state offices. for Liberty (for all), Bill Utterback http://www.freep.com/news/locmac/gun29_20001129.htm Gun owner held in death Man accused of illegal sale in Warren jail killing November 29, 2000 BY KIM NORTH SHINE FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER Terry Walker was nearly 50 miles from the Warren City Jail the night a drug suspect smuggled in a gun and killed Warren Police Detective Christopher Wouters, but authorities say Walker, as owner of the weapon, is to blame for the killing. During his arraignment Tuesday in Warren's 37th District Court, Walker, 49, was charged with involuntary manslaughter. He is accused of failing to legally transfer ownership of his 9mm semiautomatic. He was also arraigned on two weapons charges. Judge Walter Jakubowski read the counts that accused Walker of "unlawfully killing Wouters ...by failing to fully divest himself of the weapon." Under the law, when a gun is transferred, be it sold, loaned or given away, the new owner must register the weapon in his or her name. The former owner must make sure that is done. Walker apparently didn't when he sold the gun five years ago, but that hardly rises to the level of manslaughter, his family said. Walker, a restaurant cook from Capac in Michigan's Thumb, was held in lieu of posting a $250,000 cash bond. When he wasn't standing before Jakubowski, he buried his face in his handcuffed hands. There's no proof that Walker knew or met Ljeka Juncaj, the 29-year-old drug suspect who killed Wouters, but he nonetheless is culpable, said Eric Kaiser, chief trial attorney for the Macomb County Prosecutor's Office. It's also unlikely that Walker sold the gun to Juncaj, Kaiser said. But somehow, the chrome-plated gun landed in the hands of Juncaj, who smuggled it, in his pants, into the Warren police booking room after his Oct. 11 arrest. After killing Wouters, a 19-year veteran and 42-year-old father of three, Juncaj fatally shot himself in the head while struggling with another officer. "It's not relevant if he knew him. He put the weapon into the stream of use, so he is responsible," Kaiser said. "If I have a stick of dynamite in a paper bag and I hand it to you, it might be eight people later before something happens. But it doesn't matter, the damage has been done." Walker's sister, Kay Fitch of Capac said police and prosecutors are desperate for someone to blame. An internal investigation by Warren police revealed their officers forgot to search Juncaj. "He sold the gun to a man in Capac. He trusted he would do the right thing," Fitch said. In addition to one count of involuntary manslaughter, prosecutors brought an alternative charge: felon in possession of a firearm. Because Walker was sentenced to probation in August for felony embezzlement from his employer, he should not have owned a gun. With the alternative charge, a jury -- if the case should make it to trial -- will have the option of convicting Walker of involuntary manslaughter, a 15-year felony, or of felon in possession, a 5-year felony. If they convict him of both charges , the judge is expected to sentence him based on the more serious crime. Walker is also facing a felony firearms charge, which carries a mandatory 2-year penalty, upon conviction. He has requested a court-appointed attorney. His preliminary examination is set for Dec. 7. Macomb County Prosecutor Carl Marlinga said earlier that he wanted to bring charges to send a message to gun owners that they will be held responsible if their weapons are used to commit crimes. "Owning a gun is an awesome responsibility and with it comes the duty to transfer ownership," Kaiser said. Fitch said her brother, the son of the late Lewis Walker, Capac's police chief for 17 years, would agree. But he could not force the buyer to complete the paperwork. "We feel for the police officer's family," she said. "But Terry would not sell to someone like this drug dealer. Someone else did." Contact KIM NORTH SHINE at 810-469-8085 or kshine@freepress.com. Looking for what the Bible says about Christians and Civil Government? Pastor John Weaver covers this and much more. Audio tapes are only $4.00 each. Just click: http://freedompage.home.mindspring.com/johnweaver.html [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boyd Subject: Re: Banksters Plunder The Sheeple........ (fwd) Date: 02 Dec 2000 18:00:24 -0800 Bob, if all interest is worthless usury then why do people pay it? Put another way, if it is not valuable to have the use of 40,000 now before you can save it then why would you not wait and save it? Governments don't (and -never- have) issue free money. They sometimes make "interest free" loans when they know that the value of the money will increase at a rate greater then they could get by charging interest (in other times, this'd be called "inflating the currency"). Your use of the fascist German government, in a time where the entire force of the world was focused on distorting the German economy, strikes me as somewhat odd. Did war production play no part in the expansion of their economy? (IMO it did and we're not going to let anybody bomb our Rhine valley into dust to grow the US economy). Individuals from that time in Germany would tell you a somewhat less glorious tale of the rise of Nazi power, the onset of an inflation that killed people and the beginning of our worlds most tumultuous and violent time. I'm open to convincing that you have some amazing unique new innovative version of economics but I'm hoping you can be more convincing then this. Boyd Kneeland Bill Vance wrote: > > On Dec 2, BOBWORN@aol.com wrote: > > [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > > From: Pep Stofen > > NO BANKERS' PLUNDER > > Under a Constitutional system no private banks would exist to rob the people. > Government banks under the control of our duly elected public servants would > issue and control all money and credit. They would issue not only actual > curre4ncy, but would lend limited credit at no usury for the purchase of > capitol goods, such as homes. A $40,000.00 loan would require only $40,000.00 > repayment, not $126,000.00 as it is now. > > Everyone who supplied materials and labor for the home would get paid just as > they do today, but the bankers would not get $86,000.00 in usury, AND THAT IS > WHY THEY RODICULE AND DESTROY ANY INDIVIDUAL, AND OR ANYONE SUGGESTING > GOVERNMENT MONEY WITHOUT USURY AND WITHOUT DEBT, > > History tells us of debt-free and usury-free money issued by governments. The > American Colonies did it in the 1700's and their wealth soon rivaled England > and brought restrictions from Parliament, which led to the Revolutionary War. > Abraham Lincoln did it in 1863 to help finance the Civil War. An agent of the > Rothschild Bank later assassinated him. No debt-free or usury-free money has > been issued in America since then. Several Arab nations issue interest-free > loans to their citizens today. The Saracen Empire forbade usury on money for > 1,000 years, and its wealth outshone even Saxon Europe. Mandarin China issued > its own money, interest-free and debt-free, and the European traveler, Marco > Polo, was astounded by the wealth and the civilization of the Mandarin Empire. > > Germany issued debt-free and usury-free money from 1935, accounting for its > startling rise from the depression to a world power in 5 years. Germany > financed its entire government and war operation from 1935 to 1945 without > gold and without debt, and it took the whole Capitalist and Communist world > to destroy the German power over Europe and bring Europe back under the heel > of the bankers. Such history of money does not even appear in the textbooks > of public (government controlled) schools today. > > By the issuance of paper money and credit in the above manner, the nation's > total money supply can be increased to meet the nation's needs with no > disadvantage to anyone and with advantage to all. All will benefit from the > increased ease of exchanging goods and services with more money available. > THE IMPORTANT THING IS THAT THE MONEY DOES NOT HAVE TO BE TAXED OR TAKEN OUT > OF CIRCULATION TO PAY BACK THE PARASITIC BANKERS. As stated before, it would > remain in circulation for generations at no cost to the American people, > except for printing replacements for paper currency as it wears out. > > [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! > ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no > weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his > hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a > on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ > ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > > Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: HUMOR: Al Gore Elementary..... (fwd) Date: 02 Dec 2000 19:32:37 PST On Dec 2, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] AlGore Elementary in Carthage, TN recently implemented a new set of rules and guidelines for scoring student tests. Effective immediately, all teachers are expected to follow these rules when scoring standardized student tests: 1) Initially, all standardized tests will be scored by computer scanning equipment to provide a "rough estimate" of the student's score 2) to ensure fairness and accuracy, only those students who failed the test will be subject to hand scoring 3) each failing student will hand score his or her own test, assisted by two other failing students 4) this group of three failing students will establish their own rules and standards for scoring 5) when scoring an individual item, the three failing students must address the question "how did the student intend to answer the question?" If the student did indeed intend to answer the question incorrectly, then it is counted wrong. However, if the student did not intend to answer it incorrectly, then it is scored "correct." One way to determine intent involves looking at how the student answered other items on the test. If, for instance, a student answered other items correctly, clearly he or she did not intend to answer subsequent questions incorrectly. In such cases, the incorrectly answered item is scored as correct 6) Failing students are permitted to re-score their tests as many times as necessary until a passing score is achieved. The important point that must be emphasized in these new rules is this: The student's intent is paramount. It is not what they did, but what they intended to do that counts. Further, only a group of failing students can possibly discern the intent of other failing students. Students who passed the test have no additional recourse, unless they are children of US Military personnel, in which case, their test scores are not counted and they will receive an automatic "zero". Failing students are encouraged to add additional rules and guidelines to this list as they pop into their heads. Please list all suggestions below and return to David Bois, Principal, AlGore Elementary. --- Submitted by: Jack Perrine | Athena Programming | 626-798-6574 _________________| 1175 N Altadena Dr | ____________ Jack@Minerva.com | Pasadena CA 91107 | FAX-398-8620 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: VIN: The Emperor Al (fwd) Date: 03 Dec 2000 00:26:43 PST On Dec 2, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Sparing us The Emperor Al Holman W. Jenkins, in his Nov. 29 "Business World" column in The Wall Street Journal, pointed out that since the presidential balloting in Florida amounted to a statistical dead heat, any success Al Gore may have in convincing the courts to award him the state -- and thus the presidency -- would be "a statistical accident." Yet according to Mr. Jenkins, those familiar with Mr. Gore report "his Fido-like persistence arises from his belief that he really 'won' the state. ... He apparently believes that when a small fraction of unmotivated, uninformed voters fail to follow the instructions of the Democratic operatives who drag them to the polls, it's tantamount to robbing him of a prize he's duly earned." Jenkins concluded his column by pointing out that, should Gore persist in such tactics, "It would become clear, both to history and his own voters, that he was the wrong man all along. Support is already falling away fast for the candidate who is showing himself willing to belabor our most important institution merely to finagle his way to the prize he craves." This is not merely about Al Gore -- though I'll admit there's something about a man who would pose as a fiscal "moderate" to win election from conservative Tennessee, a spoiled son of Washington privilege and wealthy tobacco heir who would turn cigarette prohibitionist and even use his own sister's tobacco-related death for political gain, a beneficiary of a huge trust in Occidental Oil stock who sidles up to the public-employee collectivists and proves willing to publicly embrace the most bizarre Luddite and Marxist environmental quackery, a man who will even modify his dress, speech and deportment in response to the way he's portrayed each weekend on "Saturday Night Live," that doesn't inspire my deepest trust. Nor is this about George W. Bush, another child of wealth and privilege who will blithely take the oath of office -- as has every American ruler at least since Calvin Coolidge -- without pausing a moment to contemplate that he fully intends to violate the very principles of limited government which he is swearing before God to protect and defend, preferably within the next hour and certainly a thousand times before the month's out. I harbor no delusions that George W. Bush will be a great president. I didn't vote for him. I don't even have a hankering for a great president. (Why does "greatness" always involve sending other mothers' sons to die in unpronounceable places?) I'd be much happier with a man who takes long naps in the afternoon and does little or nothing but host pleasant dinners for visiting ambassadors except on those rare occasions when the safety of our freedoms is truly at stake. The notion that George W. Bush will prove a closet libertarian, working with a Republican Congress to repeal thousands upon thousands of unconstitutional post-1912 enactments and hosing out the thousand bureaucratic ant farms erected along the shores of the Potomac (starting with the IRS, the DEA, the FBI, and the BATF), is a chimera. It will be business as usual for the Imperial Bureaucracy no matter which of these front men is finally allowed to sleep in the Big Bed. But between the two men there does emerge one increasingly apparent difference of character. George W. Bush has made it clear on a number of occasions that his future happiness does not rest on achieving this office -- if defeated, he has a nice ranch and gratifying gig in Texas and would probably have a more enjoyable next eight years, all things considered. Al Gore, on the other hand, is a man driven by ambition. It is increasingly apparent he will do almost literally anything to succeed. Imagine for a moment you could choose one of these two men to take the oath of office on the sad flight back from Dallas in late November of 1963. Within a few months, which would be more likely to start pouring endlessly more men and materiel into the doomed and divisive rathole of Vietnam, vowing -- as our larger-than-life villain, Lyndon Johnson, actually did vow -- "Dammit, I'm not gonna have them say I was the first American president under which this country lost a war!"? Then again, maybe Al Gore would just be seeking a court ruling that he'd won the Vietnam War. The way we choose our presidents is deeply flawed. The parties used to nominate senior statesmen of unquestioned stature, their positions on the issues of the day well established, who then "stood" for election. With the exception of a few major addresses -- lengthy speeches of substance; after 100 years we still recall William Jennings Bryan and his "Cross of Gold" -- their "campaigns" generally took the form of politely receiving reporters for interviews on the porch of the family home. Given the choice that confronted us this fall, can anyone seriously suggest the massive union and corporate bribe-funded potlatch and baby-kissing contest which we now know as the "presidential primary season" is providing us with better leaders than the old "smoke-filled room"? What's most poisonous about today's process is that merely to become a finalist in the presidential sweepstakes, the press and pundits now demand a fellow have such a "fire in the belly" to control the lives of millions that he would be -- in any other walk of life -- judged certifiably megalomaniac and insane. I believe Al Gore qualifies. And through I don't yet have much else good to say about him, I sense that George W. Bush does not. By some miracle, the process designed by the founders did manage to spare us President Aaron Burr. It now appears to have done its work again. Somehow, it appears it will also spare us The Emperor Al. Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, and editor of Financial Privacy Report (subscribe by calling Nelson at 952-895-8757.) His book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available by dialing 1-800-244-2224; or via web site http://www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926) "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken * * * To subscribe, send a message to vinsends-request@ezlink.com, from your NEW address, including the word "subscribe" (with no quotation marks) in the "Subject" line. All I ask of electronic subscribers is that they not RE-forward my columns until on or after the embargo date which appears at the top of each, and that (should they then choose to do so) they copy the columns in their entirety, preserving the original attribution. The Vinsends list is maintained by Alan Wendt in Colorado, who may be reached directly at alan@ezlink.com. The web sites for the Suprynowicz column are at http://www.infomagic.com/liberty/vinyard.htm, and http://www.nguworld.com/vindex. The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: U.S. SUP. CT. UPDATE - JAY SEKULOW, ACLJ (fwd) Date: 04 Dec 2000 03:08:10 PST On Dec 4, House, David Alan wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2000 2:39 AM http://www.aclj.org/ I wanted to take a moment to give you a first-hand report of today's oral arguments in the Presidential election case before the U.S. Supreme Court in Washington, D.C. I was in the courtroom Friday and saw clearly the importance of this argument and the fact that such a critical constitutional issue hangs in the balance. As Chief Counsel of the American Center for Law and Justice - an international public interest law firm that specializes in constitutional law - I was delighted to see that the legal arguments we presented earlier this week in our friend-of-the-court brief played a key role in the exchange between the Justices and the attorneys for both sides. Having appeared before the U.S. Supreme Court on nine separate occasions - I know how tough oral arguments can be. Attorneys for both sides did well - the Justices peppered both parties with aggressive questions - a clear sign that the Court is fully engaged in this issue. This was a historic hearing that will play a pivotal role in the outcome of the Presidential election - a monumental moment for the country and the U.S. Constitution. The Supreme Court will clearly have a dramatic impact on the outcome of this presidential election - it will play a critical role in both the legal outcome and perhaps, as importantly, how the issue is decided in the court of public opinion. Earlier this week, the ACLJ filed a friend-of-the-court brief in the case with the U.S. Supreme Court on behalf of 63 Florida voters challenging the actions of the Florida Supreme Court - and urging the Court to overturn the decision of the Florida Supreme Court to extend the certification deadline in the presidential contest. Our brief stated that the law and the Constitution are very clear: the Florida Supreme Court usurped the authority of the Florida legislature by re-writing Florida election law. It is my hope that the Supreme Court reaches that conclusion. The ACLJ has been involved in the Florida election controversy since the beginning filing friend-of-the-court briefs in Palm Beach County challenging lawsuits demanding a re-vote there. The Florida Supreme Court has been asked to enter the case after a circuit court judge ruled that there are no legal grounds for a re-vote in Palm Beach County. The response to our petition drive has been nothing short of remarkable. We have heard from more than 160,000 people since Election Day who want to see a constitutional resolution to this election and supported the Florida Secretary of State's decision to certify the presidential election - without an extension of the deadline. The ACLJ is notifying both presidential campaigns - Texas Governor George W. Bush and Vice President Al Gore - of the public response. The ACLJ is also reporting the public response to the leadership of the U.S. Congress and of the Florida legislature. If you have signed the petition, thank you. If you have not, we need to hear from you today. We want to add as many names as possible as the Presidential election controversy winds through the legal and political system. You can join with us and have your voice heard by adding your name to our petition at our web site at http://www.aclj.org/ . If you are unable to click the above link, please cut and paste or type www.aclj.org into your web browser to continue. The ACLJ is an international public interest law firm and educational organization that defends the constitution and focuses on pro-liberty, pro-life, and pro-family cases. Thank you, Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel The American Center for Law and Justice http://wwww.aclj.org/ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: New Party to Embrace Activist Role (fwd) Date: 04 Dec 2000 15:27:07 PST On Dec 4, Steve Moser wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] http://www.friendsofliberty.com/00508_00.htm The Texas Regional Manager of the newly formed United American Party is hoping to revive a petition to rescind the War Emergency Powers Act. On March 6, 1933, a declaration of emergency was created--which means the Constitution had been suspended and it remains suspended to this day. Franklin D. Roosevelt's first phase was installed after this Resolution was adopted By The Federal Reserve Board Of New York. Whereas, in the opinion of the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the continued and increasing withdrawal of currency and gold from the banks of the country now has created a national emergency. Roosevelt created a banking holiday and when the banks opened there was no gold in the Reserves banks. Where had the gold gone? It was moved offshore, and was no longer in the country. At this point, the banks and surrounding areas were put under full military control. The amended 1918 war powers act, when describing trading with the enemy had before excluded Citizens. Now they where included. Shortly thereafter the Treasurer issued a statute that private ownership by the citizens of gold coin or bullion was not allowed. Any one found in possession could be fined $10,000.00 and 10 years in the Federal penitentiary. Gold certificates and gold coins vanished over night. Federal Reserve Bank Notes appeared mysteriously already in existence. J. Edgar Hoover estimated that the money exchangers made a 60% profit in this transition. Roosevelt with every turn of events claimed that there was a threat, and increased his already vast power to stomp on our Constitution. He made an executive order that stated that any proclamation made by the president of treasurer was law immediately and did not need authorization by congress. This one he sealed our legal fate with, declaring that only the President by proclamation could remove the emergency powers act. The exact same act and amendments, along with many others are still in place. We do not know freedom because we have never experience it. If we allow this thing to go on we will be slaves of the very families whom the pilgrims and the other settlers fled from. In the state of Texas, Republican Resolution #5 reads: Whereas, there has occurred continuous breach of trust, duty and obligation imposed under authority of the Constitution for the United States of America, resulting in a continued abridgment of the Rights, Privileges, Immunities, and the Liberties of Citizens and others, all committed under pretense of a continuing national crisis and furtherance of emergency conditions. The end demanded the termination by proclamation of the president to end the act. Just as all of the other studies and resolutions all have shown the Constitution no longer an instrument used by our government. Past and incumbent Presidents when told they should rescind the act refused to. It is now left up to We the People. I hope that the efforts of volunteers and elected officials we contact can persuade Mr. Bush to make us proud. Let him be the one who by presidential proclamation restores freedom to our country. One other point to make--where is our gold? We do need you to help. I believe that if we do not end this soon it will never happen. You owe it to yourself your loved ones and your Country to make this work. For too long the patriot community has lead solitary pockets of protest. Stand and make this count. It is the single most important obstacle to overcome if we are not going to let America die. For those who wish to donate, you may send donations to the address listed below. We have an opportunity with President elect Bush. He is a member of the GOP from Texas who fathered Resolution #5 and should, as a servant of the people, do his duty. If he will not, then the cards of his master are on the table for everyone to see. Make checks payable to James M. Morgan, TUAP Regional Manager Texas United America Party 900 Broken Feather Trail #299 Pflugerville, Texas 78660 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: RNC Accuses Gore of Tampering with Electors (fwd) Date: 05 Dec 2000 06:31:44 PST On Dec 5, Huck wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 8:26 PM RNC Accuses Gore of Tampering with Electors http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/11/23/103708.shtml NewsMax.com http://www.newsmax.com/ Thursday, Nov. 23, 2000 In an urgent e-mail sent out to approximately 1 million Republicans, Republican National Committee Chairman Jim Nicholson claims that Al Gore is tampering with the Electoral College. Nicholson says Gore's operatives have even begun doing background checks on Republican electors. Here is the text of the Nicholson e-mail: Al Gore is attempting to reverse the outcome of the election by any means necessary. That includes tampering with the Electoral College itself. Democrat operatives have begun clandestine background checks on Republican electors already certified from the 29 states George W. Bush won on November 7. They are looking for ways to persuade - or intimidate - Republican electors into changing their votes. With Florida's 25 electoral votes, George W. Bush has a total of 271 electoral votes. (270 are needed to win.) That means a shift of three would give Al Gore a majority - and there are people in Gore's camp who seem to think private investigators can sway enough votes to win. This is outrageous. Already Al Gore has flooded Florida with lawyers, attempting to win in court what he lost at the ballot box. He is pushing for partisan, rigged recounts in Democrat-controlled counties. He is demanding that Florida's election laws be junked so Democrat judges can impose a brand new, ad hoc system to accommodate the Democrats' frantic legal maneuvers. Now the Gore camp is tampering with Electors. Al Gore will do anything to win. I've attached a Wall Street Journal report on the Democrats' undercover assault on Republican electors. Read it and draw your own conclusions. This election should be OVER. Because Al Gore refuses to accept the results, the fight continues. The RNC is working to defend the integrity of the vote, not only in Florida but also in other close states like Oregon, Wisconsin and New Mexico as well. We will fight this to the end, and we are confident we will prevail. But we need your help. We realize that we have asked a great deal from you in the past few days, but the future of our country may well be at stake. We need to squelch this effort to steal Republican votes in the Electoral College in its infancy. The Democrat Electoral College tampering is being led by Bob Beckel, who you may remember as Walter Mondale's campaign manager in 1984. Below is Mr. Beckel's contact information. Please contact him and express your outrage at his low-handed tactics. Bob Beckel & Associates 1501 Lee Highway, Suite 200 Arlington, VA 22209 Phone: 703.841.0600 Fax: 703.841.1115 In addition, please do the following five things to help. Your efforts could help make the difference: 1) If you haven't done so already, take a minute to make a contribution to the RNC to help defend the integrity of the electoral process . . . 2) Call, e-mail and write your local elected officials, Democrats and Republicans. Let them know that this recent ploy by the Gore campaign is an outrageous attempt to undercut our Constitutional Democracy . . . 3) Call your local talk radio show or TV news show and raise these issues. 4) Write a letter to the editor of your local, regional or national newspapers on these subjects. 5) Finally, send this e-mail on to your own e-mail list - to all of your friends and neighbors who are interested in knowing the truth about what is going on in Florida. The situation we face is unprecedented. The presidency and the course of our nation for the next four years hang in the balance. . . . Jim Nicholson Chairman Republican National Committee http://www.rnc.org NewsMax.com has run ads in the New York Times, USA Today and other major papers exposing Al Gore's election theft. Read NewsMax.com's urgent letter to its readers. If you have already contributed, you can do so again. Keep these ads running! Find out how you can help expose voter fraud and the stealing of the election. Click below https://www.newsmax.com/election.shtml [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Ron Paul on Federal Police........... (fwd) Date: 05 Dec 2000 06:33:04 PST On Dec 4, BOBWORN@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] The Disturbing Trend Toward Federal Police by Congressman Ron Paul http://www.house.gov/paul/ The House of Representatives recently approved a mas- sive appropriations bill that will fund various Treasury Department agencies at record spending levels. The bill appropriates nearly 30 billion dollars, an increase over last year's already huge Treasury budget. More disturbing, however, is the whopping 23% increase in funding for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) contained in the Treasury bill. ATF gets more than $730 million dollars for fiscal year 2001, an increase of $166 million over its 2000 budget. Why the increase? The administration wants the agency to hire 600 new federal police officers to enforce ever-expanding gun laws. Never mind the obvious failures of gun control legislation and the clear Second Amendment prohibition against such laws. The politicians in Washington are deter- mined to slowly abolish gun rights, and they are determined to use federal police to accomplish the task. The American public gradually has become aware of the disturbing trend toward federal policing of our nation. Many Americans do not support ATF, especially after the disastrous events at Waco. I was widely attacked in the media and by members of Congress for questioning the gover- nment's actions at Waco, and for merely suggesting that many Americans were concerned by the possibility of federal agents taking violent action against American citizens. Now we have Congress spending more money to increase the budget for ATF, despite its highly questionable actions and the resulting public mistrust of the agency. It is important to recognize that our federal constitu- tion lists only three federal crimes, namely counterfeiting, treason, and piracy on the high seas. The founding fathers never envisioned a federal police force, knowing that such a force would trample on the right of each state to enact and enforce its own criminal laws. Hence there is no provision for the creation of a general federal police force in the enumeration of congressional powers. Furthermore, the 10th amendment explicitly reserves the general police power to the states individually. Washington politicians, however, have no interest in constitutional limitations when they seek to expand and consolidate their power by federalizing whole areas of criminal activity. They have consistently expanded federal criminal laws, particularly in the areas of drugs and firearms. The result of this expansion is the inevitable call for more federal police to enforce the new laws. We are told we need more ATF agents to monitor fire- arms, and more DEA agents to wage the "war on drugs." Con- gress is not concerned with its lack of constitutional authority to create, much less expand a national police force. Washington politicians have successfully used recent excessive-force allegations against local police to further their goals. It is convenient to portray local police as violent or racist, and therefore in need of federal over- sight and restraint. The question, however, is whether we should trust a federal police force more than we trust our own local authorities. I believe there is a growing recog- nition that our founding fathers were correct when they prohibited federal government involvement in law enforce- ment. In Waco, Americans had a vivid example of the impact of the growing police state. With the veneer being stripped from the myth of federal law enforcement, our citizens are beginning to realize that it is both unconstitutional and untenable. http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2000/tst073100.htm [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: more (fwd) Date: 05 Dec 2000 06:35:51 PST On Dec 4, Huck wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Surprise, surprise, surprise! Even Gomer Pyle would have figured this out by now. < G > Question is will these other papers allow the message to get out? Back ( years ago ) when the NRA was still pro gun, their attempts at posting the truth were squashed. Huck ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 12:49 AM > CORRUPTION IN NATIONAL PRESS > Voter fraud covered up by major media > > By David M. Bresnahan > © InvestigativeJournal.com > > Chris Ruddy, publisher of NewsMax.com, announced plans to tell the > country > that the media have failed to report widespread voter fraud and > corruption. > > In a letter to readers of his paper, Ruddy said: "We have been warning > our > readers for some time that the Clinton-Gore crowd will do anything to > win." He said Gore will stop at nothing to reverse the apparent victory > of > George W. Bush. > > He went on to say that the major media is helping Gore. > > "We now know just how serious the media's underhanded coverage of the > Bush > DUI story played in the elections," said Ruddy. He said the media have > virtually ignored rampant voter fraud in all parts of the country, and > particularly in south Florida. > > NewsMax.com wants to expose the truth to the American people right now, > but publishing their findings only at NewsMax.com will not bring the > truth > to enough people. Ruddy announced that he will buy full-page ads in > national papers and print the truth for all to see. > > "We want to tell the public the facts. As you may know, NewsMax.com was > the first and only media entity to report, while Election Day voting was > > occurring, that the Broward County GOP had just put out a press release > noting massive Democrat vote fraud in and around Ft. Lauderdale. > > "We need your help to inform the American people. We are asking your > help > for contributions for this worthy cause. > > "We want to put the major media on notice that people like you and new > media like NewsMax.com are on alert to the fraud being perpetrated upon > the American people. > > "The media fear NewsMax.com. That's why people like you have made us > their > top destination on the Web. We have already been rated #1 by Deja.com > and > the Wall Street Journal Business Report, and Talkers magazine has said > we > are among the nation's leading alternative Web sites. > > "Admiral Thomas Moorer, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is > a > board member of NewsMax.com. He says it's the 'best web site for news in > > America.' > > "NewsMax.com needs your help to remind America that there is more at > stake > here than the election of a president. The future of our country hangs > in > the balance. > > "We want to start by placing ads in major papers like the New York Times > > and other national publications. We will even buy national TV time if we > > receive enough support. > > "No matter what the outcome of this election, we will continue this > national campaign to expose the media bias and voter fraud we have > witnessed this year. > > "You can help us now by filling out the form below to contribute to our > campaign fund." > > To read the full letter from Chris Ruddy, and to make a donation to help > > place ads in papers across America, please click the link below. > > URGENT. CLICK HERE > http://www.newsmax.com/election-Bresnahan.shtml > > PLEASE COPY THIS MESSAGE AND SEND TO EVERYONE ON ALL YOUR VARIOUS LISTS. > > DO NOT WAIT. HELP IS NEEDED NOW > > "Investigative Journal Alert" Email: David@Bresnahan.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Haven't seen this one yet... (fwd) Date: 05 Dec 2000 22:32:20 PST On Dec 5, John Brautlacht wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Sung to "The ballad of Jed Clampett"/Beverly Hillbillies theme song Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Gore A snippy Democrat, who was really quite a bore On election day of his Presidential bout He thought he lost the fight but he got to recount ballots that is... punch cards... butterflies Well the next thing you know they're countin' 'em again He lost a second time so he gave it all some spin They said Palm Beach is the place you oughta be So he hired legal experts from Tallahassee Florida that is... sunshine state... deadlocked Well the next thing you know they wanna change the rules And play around with votes cause they think we're friggin fools They riled lotsa folks and they made a lotta fuss Till Cheney came along and started kickin' butts Buttocks that is... liberal hineys... left-wing tuchas Al Gore whined that the system wasn't fair After countin' ballot holes that weren't even there Kate Harris said that the recount was a joke But that didn't stop the liberals from tallyin' votes Democrat votes that is... hangin' chad... dimpled ballots Well the State Supreme Court gave Gore another break They let him count again cause the party was at stake But just when he thought that his dream was born anew The overseas votes gave it all to dubaU George W that is... Texas Governor...President-elect Now it's time to say good-bye to Al and all his kin He tried to steal some votes but it didn't help him win You're all invited over to his house in Tennessee To sit around and blubber at his pity-parteeee Nashville that is... pout a while... have some sour grapes Ya'll have fun now... Ya Hear? [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: 35,000 veterans to get nerve agent (Sarin) notice (fwd) Date: 08 Dec 2000 04:10:28 PST On Dec 6, BOBWORN@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Subj: 35,000 veterans to get nerve agent notice 35,000 veterans to get nerve agent notice Tuesday, 5 December 2000 17:16 (ET) 35,000 veterans to get nerve agent notice By PAMELA HESS WASHINGTON, Dec. 5 (UPI) -- The Pentagon is notifying approximately 35,000 Gulf War veterans Tuesday that they may have been exposed to low levels of a nerve agent in March 1991 when an Army unit destroyed a cache of Iraqi rockets packed with sarin and cyclosarin, according to Bernard Rostker, the special assistant for Gulf War illnesses, medical readiness and military deployments. It also is sending letters to around 32,000 veterans to tell them new computer simulations of the resulting plume of sarin shows they were probably not in its path, contradicting what the Pentagon said in 1997. Advances in computer simulation, better intelligence on the chemical weapons involved, better understanding of how they are affected by wind, and a more thorough accounting of where U.S. troops were in Kuwait and Iraq on March 11, 12 and 13 1991, have convinced the Pentagon that the information it provided to veterans three years ago was inaccurate. "These are still simulations, these are not ground truths," said Rostker. "This is the best we can do based upon our understanding" of the weather, where soldiers were located and the nature of the chemicals. Rostker also conceded they were rushed to put out answers in 1997 by the president's commission on the Gulf War illness. The commission threatened to notify nearly everyone who fought in the war of possible exposure if the Pentagon was not completed with its work by a certain date, according to Rostker. The sarin -- the same nerve agent that killed Japanese subway riders in an attack by a religious cult -- was released when soldiers of the 18th Airborne Corps conducted two large-scale operations to destroy the munitions and facilities around Khamisiyah in southern Iraq in March 1991. Rostker says there is still no known correlation between those in the path of the sarin plume and those reporting Gulf War illness. Moreover, only 26 of 8,000 veterans in the path of the plume who responded to an earlier health survey were determined to have shown even mild symptoms of sarin exposure. Rostker says the levels of sarin immediately around U.S. soldiers never reached sufficient concentrations to trip alarms or to affect soldiers in a noticeable way. The toxicity and size of the plume was measured in the simulation at approximately 1.5 meters off the ground. "The great enigma of Khamisiyah is if we had a release-of-chemical event, why is it we had no alarms going off?" Rostker said. "We didn't have troops in the area where they would have been exposed (to the point) they would have felt something or tripped alarms." On March 4, soldiers destroyed 37 large ammunition bunkers, one of which -- Bunker 73 -- contained 2,160 rockets packed with chemical agents. The Pentagon says no soldiers were exposed to chemicals in that operation. But on March 10 soldiers destroyed 40 additional bunkers and 45 warehouses and blew up approximately 1,250 rockets, which U.N. inspectors later determined contained sarin and cyclosarin. Cyclosarin is two to three times more deadly than sarin, according to Rostker. The CIA now estimates that 320 kilograms of the two agents - about three-quarters of it sarin and the rest cyclosarin -- were dispersed into the air and ground when 225 of the rockets were blown up. That's down from estimates in 1997 that put the release at 715 kilograms and 500 rockets. However, because of the newly acknowledged presence of cyclosarin, the relative toxicity and mass of the cloud remained about the same. But the Pentagon believes that the plume's shape and movement was considerably different than what it had thought, encompassing 33,000 new troops to the east but losing 32,000 on the west side of Khamisiyah. The total number of troops affected is now just over 100,923, rather than the 98,910 estimated three years ago. "There is no benefit to the vets in terms of their treatment whether or not they were under the plume," said Rostker. "We are providing the information for future (health treatment) for vets. It has no practical value in terms of getting compensation," he said. About 1,100 veterans will get a letter informing them that while they were told they were not exposed to the gas, the new models show they might have been. That letter reads, in part, "In 1997, I notified you that if you were with your unit between March 10-13, 1991, you were not exposed even to a very low level of chemical agent as a result of the demolition of munitions at Khamisiyah, Iraq ... The models now predict that if you were with your unit at the time of the demolition at Khamisiyah, you may, indeed, have been exposed to very low levels of chemical agent for a brief period of time (less than three days) after the demolition." But for 33,000 veterans, Tuesday's letter will be the first time they are hearing from Rostker about the nerve gas. Defense Department records failed to indicate they were in the area during the plume. It was only by correlating the diaries of soldiers that fought in the Gulf war that the Pentagon was able to identify all the units serving around Khamisiyah. More than 66,000 of the veterans notified in 1997 of their possible exposure will be notified that despite the new models they were still in the path of the plume. About 110,000 veterans of the Gulf War self-report symptoms of the illness known as the Gulf War Syndrome, the cause of which has still not been identified. Most are diagnosed with other health problems. But about 10,000 to 20,000 have unexplained illnesses that the Defense Department considers to be Gulf War Syndrome sufferers. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: "Big Brother" In Your Right Seat..Welcome to 1984 (fwd) Date: 08 Dec 2000 04:09:20 PST On Dec 7, BOBWORN@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Subj: Tax man someday may ride with you http://www.s-t.com/daily/12-00/12-06-00/a03tr128.htm Tax man someday may ride with you By Larry Sandler, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel One day, perhaps, every car on the road will be equipped with a computer that uses satellite technology to record every mile you drive, and in which states and on which roads. Then the government will use that information to tax you for your driving. That day could be just five to 10 years away. Nine states and the federal government are paying for an $800,000 study of whether such a system could be created to replace the gas tax. If that sounds Orwellian to you, you're not alone. Wisconsin state Rep. Marlin Schneider, the Legislature's leading privacy advocate, calls the concept "a horrid idea. It is Big Brother in hearts, spades and clubs." Minnesota is leading the study, with funding from Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, California, Kansas, North Carolina, Texas, Washington state and the Federal Highway Administration. Researchers and transportation officials agree privacy concerns are among the biggest issues that would have to be dealt with before the system could be put in place. But they're pressing ahead with the study, because they fear the growth of alternative-fuel cars could mean the end of the road for the gas tax. As a side benefit, they say the system would give every driver a satellite navigation unit and a way to call for help in an emergency. Such a system also could lower gas prices, eliminate toll booths and allow businesses to build and run highways, added David Forkenbrock, one of the researchers leading the 2-1/2-year study. Much of the technology already exists, in the form of the global positioning system units that have started to appear in cars. With GPS, a small computer in a car, boat or aircraft can use satellite signals to pinpoint the vehicle's location anywhere in the world, then find that location on a map and provide directions to any destination. People are using GPS units now to find their way through unfamiliar cities. But the devices could be modified to collect tax data as well, said Forkenbrock, director of the Public Policy Center at the University of Iowa. With the maps in the GPS unit's database, the on-board computer could keep a record of how many miles each car or truck traveled on each road in each state. Drivers could be required to periodically download that data to a government computer network, perhaps at terminals installed in gas stations, Forkenbrock said. Then a central government clearinghouse would analyze the data and mail all drivers bills assessing them a Wisconsin tax for miles driven in Wisconsin, an Illinois tax for miles driven in Illinois, etc. Some states might charge different rates for driving on interstate highways, local streets or other types of roads, Forkenbrock said. Fueling the study is the fear that states could run out of cash to build and maintain roads if they keep relying on the gas tax. "We know the gas tax is going to have increasing problems" as automakers produce more hybrid vehicles powered by a mixture of gas and electricity, alternative-fuel cars and other vehicles designed to get more mileage with less gas, Forkenbrock said. With gas taxes now reaping $50 billion a year for state and federal transportation departments nationwide, the rise of fuel-efficient vehicles "is a very serious threat to the state's capacity to provide adequate transportation," Forkenbrock said. "It would be irresponsible if we did not look at these long-term issues," said Adeel Lari, director of alternative transportation financing for the Minnesota Department of Transportation. Schneider says he has been warning road-builders for years that the gas tax may not be able to sustain the highways of the future. Still, he said, that's no excuse for what he calls "a massive invasion of privacy that I don't think Americans will accept." Forkenbrock is leading a team of lawyers and policy analysts examining the legal and governmental issues involved, while researchers at the University of Minnesota work on the technical details. To address the privacy concerns, Forkenbrock said, the computers could be set up to record information only in general terms -- not to keep track of exactly where drivers were at what time. States could set additional restrictions in the laws authorizing the system, such as prohibiting the information from being used for anything other than tax bills, he said. Because people are traveling on public roads in full view of everyone, gathering this information "is really not much of an invasion of privacy," Forkenbrock said. Schneider disagreed. For example, he said, a Wisconsin woman who drives to the Mayo Clinic for confidential treatment might not want to explain to her husband why they are being billed for travel in Minnesota. Privacy aside, cost would be another issue, both for states and individuals. Also, people who own older cars might be faced with bills of up to $2,000 to install GPS units, and that's a substantial sum for low-income residents, Lari noted. On the other hand, widespread use of this taxing system could mean that GPS units would become standard equipment on new cars, Forkenbrock said. That means everyone with a new car would have a "spectacularly good" satellite navigation unit, with a feature that could summon help in an emergency with one touch of a button, he said. "Public acceptance, I think, will hinge on what the public gets for this," Forkenbrock said. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: WC: Midweek Humor (fwd) Date: 08 Dec 2000 04:12:14 PST On Dec 06, Mike Riddle wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Response to the Queen's revocation of our Independence To the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, We welcome your concern about our electoral process. It must be exciting for you to see a real Republic in action, even if from a distance. As always we're amused by your quaint belief that you're actually a world power. The sun never sets on the British Empire! Right-o chum! However, we regretfully have to decline your offer for intervention. On the other hand, it would be amusing to see you try to enforce your new policy (for the 96.3% of you that seem to have forgotten that you have little to no real power). After much deliberation, we have decided to continue our tradition as the longest running democratic republic. It seems that switching to a monarchy is in fact considered a "backwards step" by the majority of the world. To help you rise from your current anachronistic status, we have compiled a series of helpful suggestions that we hope you adopt: 1. Realize that language is an organic structure, and that you aren't always correct in your pronunciation or spelling. Let's use your "aluminium" example. Sir Humphrey Davy (an Englishman) invented the name "aluminum" (note spelling) for the metal. However, in common usage the name evolved into "aluminium" to match the naming convention of other elements. In 1925 the United States decided to switch back to the _original spelling and pronunciation of the word, at which point we dominated the aluminum industry. We'd also like to point out that the process of actually producing aluminum was developed by an American and a Frenchman (not an Englishman). However, we'd like to thank you for the Oxford English Dictionary. It's an interesting collection, considering that over 10,000 of the words in the original edition were submitted by a crazy American civil-war veteran called Dr. William Charles Minor. 2. Learn to distinguish the American and Canadian accents, and then we'll talk about the English and Australian accent issue. 3. Review your basic arithmetic. (Hint 100 - 98.85 = 1.15 and 100 - 97.85 = 2.15) 4. If you want English actors as good guys, then make your own movies. Don't rely on us for your modern popular culture. We liked "Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels", "Trainspotting", and "The Full Monty". We've also heard good things about this "Billy Elliot". But one good movie a year doesn't exactly make a cultural powerhouse. However, you're doing pretty well with music, so keep up the good work on that front. 5. It's inefficient to have a national anthem that changes its title whenever your monarch dies. Let's not forget that your national anthem has an extremely boring tune. We suggest switching to that Rule Brittania ditty, it's toe tapping. Or maybe Elton John could adapt "Candle In The Wind" again for you guys. 6. Improve at your national sport. Football? Soccer? This just in: United States gets fourth place in men's soccer at the 2000 Summer Olympics. United Kingdom? Not even close. By the way, impressive showing at Euro 2000. You almost managed to get through the tournament without having your fans start an international incident. 7. Learn how to cook. England has some top notch candy. Salt 'n' Vinegar chips are quite yummy. However, there's a reason why the best food in your country is Indian or Chinese. Your contributions to the culinary arts are soggy beans, warm beer, and spotted dick. Perhaps when you finally realize the French aren't the spawn of Satan they'll teach you how to cook. 8. You're doing a terrible job at understanding cars. The obvious error is that you drive on the wrong side of the road. A second problem is pricing, it's cheaper to buy a car in Belgium and ship it to England than to buy a car in England. On the other hand, we like Jaguars and Aston Martins. That's why we bought the companies. 9. We'll tell you who killed JFK when you apologize for "Teletubbies". Thank you for your time. You can now return to watching bad Australian soap operas. P.S. - regarding WW2: You're Welcome. ************************ Has anyone noticed that the last two states to declare in the elections, Oregon and Florida, are anagrams for 'NO GORE' and 'RID OF AL'? ************************** In olden times, it could be decades before major events were cast in verse. But The Great 2000 Election Controversy is so big that a bunch of all-star poets have come out of retirement to quickly set the story to rhyme. For starters, history buff Henry Wadsworth Longfellow: Listen, my children, don't dare ignore, The midnight actions of Bush and Gore In early November, the year ought-ought, Hard to believe the mess they wrought. Two billion bucks of campaign bounty All came down to Palm Beach County. What result could have been horrider Than the situation we found in Florider? Edgar Allen Poe is his usual gloomy self: Once upon a campaign dreary, one which left us weak and weary O'er many a quaint and curious promise of political lore While we nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a yapping, As of some votes overlapping, energy-zapping to the core "'Tis a mess here," we all muttered, as the network anchors stuttered, Stuttered over Bush and Gore. Could there be another election with such a case of misdirection, One with such a weak selection, yet fraught with tension to the core? Quoth the ravers, "Nevermore." Britain's Edward Lear's limerick is lighter: There once was a U S. election That called for some expert detection - How thousands of pollers Could become two-holers Like outhouses of recollection. Ditto Ogden Nash: I regret to admit that all my knowledge is What I learned at Electoral Colleges, So tell me please, though I hate to trouble ya, Will the winner be Al, or will it be Dubya? Joyce Kilmer's a media analyst: I thought that I would never see The networks all so up a tree. Walt Whitman is lyrical, as always: O' Captain! My Captain! our fearful trip's not done The ship has weather'd every rack, but nobody knows who's won. Alfred Noyes rhythmically rumbles: And still of an autumn night they say, with the White House on the line, When the campaign's a ghostly galleon and both candidates cry, "'Tis mine!" When the road is a ribbon of ballots, all within easy reach, A highwayman comes riding, Riding, Riding, A highwayman comes riding, and punches two holes in each. Dr. Seuss takes a look at election officials: I cannot count them in a box I cannot count them with a fox I cannot count them by computer I will not with a Roto-Rooter I cannot count them card-by-card I will not 'cause it's way too hard I cannot count them on my fingers I will not while suspicion lingers. I'll leave the country in a jam - I can't count ballots, Sam-I-Am. And finally, Clement Moore adopts a holiday theme: 'Twas the month before Christmas, when all through the courts, All the plaintiffs made stirring bad ballot reports. Which leaves the problem: Perhaps the best way to stop complaints that are raucous is Start over again, with the Iowa caucus. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: VIN: -- armed guards at DMV (fwd) Date: 08 Dec 2000 04:08:01 PST On Dec 8, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz And now ... armed guards at the DMV Constitutional authority for licensing cars and drivers is pretty tenuous, largely based on early legal sleight-of-hand designed to purposely confuse the excisable professional of "driving" -- hauling passengers or freight for profit on the public roads -- with simple civilian travel. The image is colorful -- the Slim Pickens "toll booth" scene from the Mel Brooks film "Blazing Saddles" comes to mind -- but there's no record that George Washington had to stop by each state capitol along his route, signing up for the 18th century equivalent a "photo ID" and a little metal plate to hang over his horse's rump, as he moved from Massachusetts through Connecticut, rushing to the defense of New York in 1776 and Philadelphia in 1777. In fact, drivers' licenses are thinly disguised police ID cards. (Does one forget how to drive when moving across town, or into another state? Then why isn't the license you got in another state the year you graduated from high school still as "good" as the high school diploma you earned that same year?) Yet we obligingly buy into the euphemism that the "customers" of the Department of Motor Vehicles want quick and efficient "service" when we go wait in line to renew these sundry government forms -- as though anyone would be buying this bill of goods, absent the armed and uniformed men who stand ready to handcuff us and impound our valuable vehicles if we're caught without our "papers, please." Now, some of the peons are apparently growing restless. Nevada Gov. Kenny Guinn said Monday that state workers fear for their lives because "patrons" at DMV offices are going ballistic when they're told -- after waiting in line for an average of more than an hour -- not only that they're being refused the routine paperwork they've come to pay for, but that their vehicles are instead going to be impounded for overdue traffic or parking tickets. DMV Director Richard Kirkland added that some victims have told his employees that they will be killed or that they should be looking over their shoulder when they leave work. "Some have been grabbed around the throat," he added. Oh, the humanity! The governor Monday asked members of the Legislature's Interim Finance Committee to provide funding for armed guards in the Las Vegas and Reno DMV offices, to keep these unruly peasants in line. Though it's tempting to suggest they be given MP-40 submachine guns and fancy black uniforms with silver skulls on the collars, the better to help everyone appreciate the true nature of the transaction being effected, in fact some better solutions are available: First, the American system of governance is based on carefully delineated lines of jurisdiction between the various levels of government -- one of many safeguards against a vertically integrated, Napoleonic tyranny. A state motor vehicle office has no more business withholding a state document from an otherwise qualified citizen based on non-payment of local or municipal parking tickets, than the U.S. State Department should be refusing us passports because our chicken coops are alleged to be in violation of some local zoning code. Yes, local judges have ruled that the state should impound the vehicles of drivers who ignore local parking tickets. The correct response from Gov. Guinn should be: "The judges have made their ruling; now let them try to enforce it. My guys aren't going to do it, because it's unconstitutional." (The "balance of powers" is supposed to allow any of the three branches to block an unconstitutional order from another -- otherwise we'd only need one branch of government: the courts.) In the meantime, though, statistics provided by the governor and his staff in the course of seeking funds for 64 new part-time workers in an effort to decrease waiting times at the DMV offices -- now averaging 79 minutes per victim at the Sahara office in Las Vegas -- should raise some eyebrows in their own right. In part because of a perverse incentive in state employee contracts which encourage workers to "use or lose" their "sick time," on any given day 30 percent of employees are absent from their posts in the Henderson, Carey Avenue and West Flamingo Road DMV offices, the governor's staff revealed. While on East Sahara, the average rate of absenteeism is a whopping 49 percent. Couple this with the astonishingly inefficient hunt-and-peck methods of data entry which citizens are witnessing when they finally do reach the front of the lines, and it's small wonder tempers are near the breaking point. "The way that the sick time pay is structured is one of the things that we're looking at very closely," the governor's spokesmen, Jack Finn, told me Tuesday. And will the governor be looking at getting his DMV workers out of the job of impounding autos to enforce municipal parking tickets? "That's something we're looking at. It's something we're very seriously studying," Finn says. The long-term solution, of course, is to abandon the whole system -- allow Nevada's citizens to travel the highways as they please without any government "licenses," "registrations" or "permits." But until the governor finds the political courage to take that obvious step toward restoring one of our most basic freedoms, one further thing does come to mind: Employers in the private sector seem to have no problem hiring employees who can type 60 words per minute, and who actually show up for work a lot more often then 51 percent of the time, for as little as 10 bucks an hour. The governor might want to "seriously study" firing the entire current DMV staff, and replacing them with Kelly Girls. Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, and editor of Financial Privacy Report (952-895-8757.) His book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available at 1-800-244-2224. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926) "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken * * * To subscribe, send a message to vinsends-request@ezlink.com, from your NEW address, including the word "subscribe" (with no quotation marks) in the "Subject" line. All I ask of electronic subscribers is that they not RE-forward my columns until on or after the embargo date which appears at the top of each, and that (should they then choose to do so) they copy the columns in their entirety, preserving the original attribution. The Vinsends list is maintained by Alan Wendt in Colorado, who may be reached directly at alan@ezlink.com. The web sites for the Suprynowicz column are at http://www.infomagic.com/liberty/vinyard.htm, and http://www.nguworld.com/vindex. The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: tea party II http://www.loudcitizen.com/Misc/teaparty.htm (fwd) Date: 09 Dec 2000 11:20:55 PST On Dec 9, Connie............ wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] tea party II http://www.loudcitizen.com/Misc/teaparty.htm a grassroots effort to send Gore the message PRESS RELEASE For Immediate Release December 6, 2000 If you're a tea drinker, you might want to stock up. If a grassroots effort started in Washington State takes hold, tea bags may be in short supply, except at Vice President Al Gore's house. The group, named "The Patriot Newsmen", is calling for an American Tea Party of revolutionary proportions. The idea is based on the historical uprising that took place more than 200 years ago in Boston's Harbor, when colonial revolutionaries dumped tea shipments into the seas, sending a message to the British Crown. Today's revolutionaries have begun buying up tea bags and are marking the little tags with the words "Concede." They'll all be sent to the Vice President's residence in Washington DC. As more communities and people get involved, they hope to bury the Vice President in a protest of tea bags. "Al Gore seems unable to read the court decisions, the polls, the numbers," said one of the protest organizers. "Maybe he can read tea leaves and tell he's lost the backing of the American people and the American system." "It's about time he recognized the unhappiness and outright distress brewing in America," said another Newsmen member. "And frankly, we're sick of talking. This gives all Americans a nice, innocent way to take action and send a message to Mr. Gore. Give it up. Have a cup of tea and see us again in four years." Send a copy of the above press release to your local papers, TV and radio stations with a tea bag attached. Better yet, deliver them personally. Advertise! Call your local talk shows. Do whatever you have to do to get your town notified to bring their tea bags to the rally. Get some boxes, crates, etc to your rally. For photo purposes, it's better to have smaller boxes full of bags than one big one you can't fill. You might decide on a spokesperson who can speak to the media about the project. Tell everyone to write Concede on the individual wrappers of the tea bags. You can even have another photo op when your group gets together to seal and address the boxes, or when you send them off. Some are even sending bags in individual envelopes. Put out a decorated coffee can at the rally so people can chip in for the postage. Get these sent out ASAP for maximum impact, preferably yet on Saturday or Monday at the latest. Use your imagination and have fun! Pack your tea bags in boxes and send them ASAP to: Vice President of the United States Albert Gore, Jr. Admiral House 34th & Massachusetts Washington, D.C. 20005 Connie........... .....dedicated to advocacy for the Biochemically Brain Disordered Connie Marie, Friend occupied Texas city of Irving [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Brain Fingerprinting on CBS 60 Minutes (fwd) Date: 09 Dec 2000 11:23:01 PST On Dec 09, Margi Crook wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ubject: [piml] Fwd: Brain Fingerprinting on CBS 60 Minutes Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 07:19:53 -0800 (PST) From: wilford bates To: truthsteward Brain Fingerprinting on CBS 60 Minutes This Sunday Evening You might be interested in watching the CBS 60 Minutes show this coming Sunday about Brain Fingerprinting. Brain Fingerprinting is a new forensic science technology that uses brain waves to detect whether or not a suspect has the details of a crime stored in his brain. Brain Fingerprinting has been 100% accurate in tests Dr. Lawrence Farwell conducted on FBI agents and tests he conducted for the CIA and the US Navy. The CBS 60 Minutes show will feature Dr. Farwell's recent application of Brain Fingerprinting in a murder case. Dr. Farwell recently testified in Iowa court regarding his Brain Fingerprinting test on inmate Terry Harrington, who has spent the last 23 years in prison for murder. Brain Fingerprinting showed that the record of the night of the crime stored in Harrington's brain did not match the crime scene, and did match his alibi. The CBS 60 Minutes show will air on Sunday at 7 PM Eastern Time (same as New York City / Washington D.C. Time). Check your local time for the CBS presentation and please pass this information to your associates. (Note: The date for the show is subject to change due to other ongoing national news events.) For additonal coverage of this highly effective, new technology - Brain Fingerprinting -, be sure to log-on to the Brain Fingerprinting website now: www.BrainWaveScience.com As the President and Founder of the Truth and Justice Foundation, a non-profit organization that seeks to provide state-of-the-art forensic testing to those in need, I have been most favorably impressed with the possibilities that Brain Fingerprinting, DNA, and other new technologies hold for determining the truth regarding crimes. I believe that Brain Fingerprinting tests, DNA tests, and other forensic tests have the potential: - to revolutionize criminal justice systems around the world - to help indigent defendants and inmates who claim innocence, and - to improve the results of the professional services performed by all personnel involved in investigations, criminal justice, and other related fields. For details about Truth and Justice, please log-on to: http://www.truth-justice.org I hope this information proves useful to you. Sincerely, Nash O. Thompson II, PhD President and Chairman The Truth and Justice Foundation nashthomps@cs.com __________________________________ TRUTH AND JUSTICE FOUNDATION. To learn more about the Truth and Justice Foundation, please contact Nash Thompson and log-on to: http://www.truth-justice.org Also, log-on to www.eCharity.com and FIND (search for) The Truth and Justice Foundation. A full description of the Foundation is available at these sites. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Gore calls upon UN to investigate election.... (fwd) Date: 10 Dec 2000 16:29:53 PST Looks like Gore just committed suicide..... On Dec 10, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 10:24 AM > MARCHING TO GLOBAL GOVERNANCE > > Will the United Nations monitor future US > elections?--Rick Wiles > > Calls for United Nation's intervention in > America's election chaos are growing around > the world. Critics of the United States of > America are using the confusion in Florida's > voting to bash the American system of free > elections. They are also using the electoral > deadlock to mock America's meddling in other > nations' elections. Others foreigners are > calling for constitutional changes to the way > the American people elect their president. It > was the Russians who first suggested sending > "international observers" to monitor the voting > in the USA. Interestingly, the Russian proposal > surfaced in the Russian State Duma in mid-October > - weeks before the November 7 deadlock in Florida. > An alliance of deputies told fellow members of the > Duma that the world needed assurance that the vote > in the USA would be fair and honest. Led by a > leader of the Communist Party, Yuri Nikiforenko, > the legislators said they were motivated by a > "profound concern about the danger of falsification > of the results of the U.S. presidential elections." > > Now there's a steady drumbeat around the world by > an assortment of anti-American politicians - including > socialists, communists, and dictators - calling on > the UN to intervene in the American political process. > ...Many third-world nations can't resist using the > Florida deadlock as an opportunity to rub Uncle Sam's > nose in dirt. Tired of the US State Departments > sanctimonious intrusion into their elections, many > nations are calling for international supervision > of future elections in the USA. ...In Zimbabwe, > President Robert Mugabe's spokesman, Jonathan Moyo, > said his nation would be hit with international > sanctions if a candidate were installed as president > without winning the majority of popular votes. > He pointed out that the US State Department > threatens to cut off foreign aid when the US doesn't > approve of outcome of elections in other countries. > Speaking of the Electoral College, Mr. Moyo said, > "We could not get away with something like that in > Zimbabwe without the threat of sanctions." ... > > Some third-world national leaders and news media > openly talked about UN Blue Helmets going to the > USA to investigate Al Gore's charges of "serious > and substantial irregularities" in the voting > process. The news media in the Ivory Coast called > upon the Organization of African Unity to help the > USA find its way out of this "parody of democracy." > ...Will UN observers monitor future American elections? > "The US has always sent observers to other countries > conducting elections to monitor progress," said Datuk > Seri Rafidah Aziz, a cabinet minister in the government > of Kuala Lumpur. "We thought that they had a perfect > electoral system," said Rafidah,"surprisingly this > is not the case." There's a lot of talk about > democracy too. Former Iranian president Akbar Hashemi > Rafsanjani said on Tehran radio that "America's > democracy is an invalid model." He also mocked > the USA's willingness to send "send watchers to > monitor elections in other countries and describes > others as undemocratic."...Last June, western nations > convened a global conference for emerging democracies. > The Community of Democracies, held in Warsaw, was > organized and promoted by the United States. Now > some former communists say the US electoral system > could not pass the scrutiny of the Organization for > Security and Cooperation in Europe. The group supervises > elections in the former communist nations of central and > eastern Europe. > > International experts say the US permits election > procedures in America that it > forbids in other nations. Specifically, American > election procedures that would be > questionable include the use of voting machines, > the requirement that citizens must > register to vote, permitting overseas ballots to > be counted if they arrive up to 10 days > after the election, and broadcasting exit polls > and election results while polls are still > open. ...Dennis Jett, dean of the international > center at the University of Florida, said if > the Florida dispute had taken place in another > country, US monitors would have called > for a rerun of the Palm Beach County vote. > ...Could a prolonged deadlock in the US > election provoke international intervention in > America's electoral system? > What are the ramifications in foreign capitals of > CNN's international news programs > broadcasting Al Gore's charges of corruption and > voting irregularities? Could the > Florida dispute be internationalized? Will > America's habit of messing in other > nations' affairs come back to haunt us? Perhaps > that why George Bush and Al Gore > both sent former Secretaries of State to Florida > to represent their campaigns. On > Wednesday after the voting, Al Gore dispatched > former Clinton cabinet member Warren > Christopher to Florida. Immediately after former > Secretary of State Christopher's arrival > in Florida, George W. Bush sent James Baker - > Secretary of State under Gov. Bush's > father - to Florida to represent the Republicans. > Maybe Vice President Gore and > Governor Bush knew this election would become an > international issue. > (Bolding and underlining added for emphasis) > American Freedom News Top [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Let the Military Vote [SIGN THE PLEDGE OF SUPPORT] (fwd) Date: 10 Dec 2000 19:35:23 PST On Dec 10, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Let the Military Vote CountTheMilitary.com project of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) We Support our Troops! National Pledge of support to: Senator John Warner, Chairman Senate Armed Services Committee Floyd Davidson Spence, Chairman House Armed Services Committee The American citizens who have signed this Pledge want you to know that we support our troops and fully believe in their fundamental right to vote. It is quite troubling for many Americans to hear that there were calculated efforts to disqualify and Therefore, we respectfully request that you fully investigate all allegations of efforts to prevent Armed Forces personnel from voting or to keep their votes from counting. Thank you,. Prefix First Middle Last Suffix E-mail Address Verify E-mail Address (enter address again) Send me e-mail updates about your legal case and other USJF activities: Yes No December 7, 2000 Our armed forces shouldn't have to fight for the right to vote! Sign your Pledge of Support for our troops and urge our leaders in Congress to fully investigate all allegations of efforts to prevent Armed Forces personnel from voting or to keep their votes from counting. ***NOTICE OF LEGAL ACTION*** Pensacola, Florida: The United States Justice Foundation has joined a lawsuit filed in the Northern District of Florida on behalf of hundreds of military voters. The suit alleges that they were deprived of the right to vote in the Presidential The complaint alleges the following: 1.. The plaintiffs, all current military service members, requested absentee ballots well in advance of the deadline for the current election. 2.. Many plaintiffs did not receive absentee ballots at all. Others had their votes disqualified because they were not delivered to the various jurisdictions in time or lacked the proper postmark or date identification. 3.. There is mounting evidence that military service members have been systematically disenfranchised by the federal government's failure to ensure and protect their fundamental voting rights. We are pursuing this litigation because we believe that there are thousands of those who are fighting to preserve our right to vote who have, themselves, been denied that very right. If all votes count, the votes of military service men and wo For more information and to find out how you can help, sign your Pledge on the left side of the page and click "yes" to receive e-mail updates from USJF. You can also contact USJF directly by sending an e-mail to forusjf@ix.netcom.com. Military Links: U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Armed Services Air Force News Army Times All Hands Magazine (USN) Leatherneck Magazine Center for Military Readiness National Defense Foundation [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: URGENT ACTION ALERT! (fwd) Date: 10 Dec 2000 19:40:26 PST On Dec 10, Connie............ wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ---- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 7:08 PM ///// CITIZENLINK ///// Dec. 8, 2000 URGENT ACTION ALERT! Bad Bill Poised for Vote Lawmakers are urging pro-family citizens to help stop a last-minute move to enact pro-abortion legislation and increase federal spending. Conservatives on Capitol Hill say they are worried that House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott are quietly preparing to concede to lame-duck President Bill Clinton on a proposal that would include a massive increase in spending and initiate bad social policy. "There are a number of provisions that I think are not good for America's families," said Rep. David Weldon, R-Fla., who is leading the opposition to approval of the bill as it currently stands. Specifically, the measure under discussion -- the annual funding bill for the Labor, Health and Human Services and Education departments -- would: ** increase overall funding by a massive $10 billion; ** increase funding for Planned Parenthood, the nation's largest abortion provider, by an estimated $35 million; and ** eliminate an amendment, sponsored by Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., to prevent school-based clinics from dispensing the so-called "morning-after pill" to teens without parental notice or approval. "I just think it is an outrage for a young person to be getting a morning-after pill at their public school without their mother or father knowing about it," Weldon said. "That's crazy, but that's what we're dealing with." Weldon said the anticipated final version of the bill would also mandate that states which receive federal money for school construction abide by restrictive regulations -- regulations that Weldon projects would increase construction costs by up to 30 percent. An aide to House Republicans said lawmakers are in a rush to wrap up business so they can return home for the holidays. That's one reason why, she said, even some normally pro-family members were wavering in their opposition to the inflated and objectionable bill. Supporters of the bill want the measure to be acted upon as early as Dec. 13, but Weldon and other opponents want to keep that from happening. TAKE ACTION Key negotiation could happen this weekend, so please contact your House representative and senators immediately and tell them not to support the version of the Labor/HHS/Education Appropriations Bill that may soon come to the floor with the objectionable provisions mentioned above. Tell them also that "not all eyes are on Florida" -- that you are watching what they do in the final moments of this Congress. Call the Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121, or for more specific information on how to reach your member of Congress, see: http://congress.nw.dc.us/fof [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Open letter to Bush & Gore (fwd) Date: 12 Dec 2000 09:10:40 PST On Dec 12, House, David Alan wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >To: Governor Bush and Vice President Gore > >We, the undersigned, respectfully submit the following >request to the consideration of Al Gore, Vice >President of the United States, and George W. Bush, >Governor of Texas: > As you may know, many Americans regarded our recent >Presidential election as a choice of the lesser evil. >When it came time to decide which of you we hated the >least, we the people were hopelessly deadlocked. > Frankly, you both give us the creeps. > At this point, it is clear that if Mr. Bush wins the >recount, the Democrats will file lawsuits for every >idiot voter in Florida, and we will hear endless >griping about butterfly ballots and hanging chads. If >Mr. Gore wins, the Republicans who tried to steal the >last election with a fellatio-centric impeachment will >no doubt engage in a similar abuse of the legal >system. > Either way, the wrangling will drag on for years. >Whoever wins will be regarded as a cheater; whoever >loses will be seen as a whiner. There is only >one way to end the squabbling. We propose a duel to >the death-on the open areas outside U.S.territorial >limits (or in Texas), in front of an international >team of observers and a worldwide television audience. > Many great American statesmen, including Andrew >Jackson and Henry Clay, engaged in duels. As one of >you may know, the most famous duel in American >history was between Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr. >After a humiliating defeat for the Presidency >(involving a tied vote in the Electoral College >and 35 successive tied votes in the House), Burr found >revenge on the dueling field. > Candidates, we implore you: be like those guys. >Settle your differences between yourselves, as men. >Think of the satisfaction of doing by bullet what you >were unable to do by ballot. > Governor Bush, you were young when you decided not to >risk your life for your country; now you have a rare >second chance. We cannot imagine a more graphic >demonstration of your steadfast support for capital >punishment. Furthermore, there's nothing like a quick >shoot-out to put an end to all this unnecessary "vote >counting" and procedural folderol. > Vice President Gore, this is your chance to >demonstrate your superior gun control. With a single, >well-aimed shot from a legally registered handgun, >you can teach Governor Bush a lesson about the >environment by making him part of it. Exercise your >freedom of choice by aborting the Governor's >presidential aspirations, not to mention his life. > Gentlemen, it is time to settle this thing once and >for all. We appreciate that you are willing to lie, >cheat or steal to win this election, but that is not >enough. You must be willing to make the ultimate >sacrifice, for the good of the nation. > P.S. If it should happen that both of you are >mortally wounded in this contest, we trust that our >great Republic shall find some way to endure the loss. > >Sincerely, > >The American Public [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larry ball Subject: [Fwd: Fw: NEWS - USA SW settles with Boston] Date: 13 Dec 2000 07:12:34 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0F07B2D891988121BEC35689 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Smith and Wesson remains in character. 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We also gift wrap and have a FREE SHIPPING promotion! http://click.topica.com/aaaa3QaVxjiAaVF8aea/eHobbies \=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=/ > Date: Monday, December 11, 2000 13:28:25 > From: SSAA > To: ssaa-news@adelaide.on.net > Subject: NEWS - USA SW settles with Boston > > Gun maker Smith & Wesson settles suit with Boston > > BOSTON, Dec 11 (Reuters) - Smith & Wesson, the country's oldestgun > maker, agreed on Monday to make far-reaching changes in the way it makes > and sells weapons as part of a settlement with the city of Boston. > > The agreement is nearly identical to one that Smith & Wesson reachedin > March with federal authorities and the governments of other > municipalities and several states. > > It preserves Smith & Wesson's track record of more aggressively seeking > settlements of lawsuits and may expose the company, a unit of British > conglomerate Tomkins Plc. to criticism from other gun makers. > > After its March settlement, the company came in for blistering attacks > from rivals in the industry, the National Rifle Association and gun > owners, some of whom boycotted Smith & Wesson products. The agreement > was hailed by President Bill Clinton and gun control advocates. > > No one from either the Boston mayor's office or Smith & Wesson could be > reached for comment on Monday's settlement. > > "This document is not about conditions that make it impossible to do > business in the firearms industry or to keep a legitimate purchaser > from buying a handgun," the company said in a statement. > > "It is about insuring that those that obtain Smith & Wesson firearms do > so in compliance with the law and that those that buy and sell our > products as part of the distribution process follow the letter of the > law." > > AGREEMENT COVERS LOCKS > > Under the agreement, which still has to be approved by a judge, Smith & > Wesson agreed to immediately start selling all its guns with external > locks and to equip them with internal locks within two years. > > It also agreed to devote 2 percent of its revenues to developing safety > technology, including smart-gun systems to prevent anyone but the > authorized user from firing a specific gun. > > The company agreed to improve child safety features within three years > to effectively preclude a typical 5-year-old from firing any of its > guns. > > Smith & Wesson agreed to require background checks at all its dealers > and at > gun shows; to include a second, hidden serial number on each weapon; and > to > work with federal authorities to test every gun and enter the results on > a database to aid in tracing used cartridges found at crime scenes. > > After Smith & Wesson settled the suit in March, sales slumped and the > company > laid off workers. Tomkins has said it wants to sell the firm, but no > progress > has been announced on that front. > > 21:21 12-11-00 > ___________________________________________________________ T O P I C A http://www.topica.com/t/17 Newsletters, Tips and Discussions on Your Favorite Topics --------------0F07B2D891988121BEC35689-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Resolution to Save The Electoral College (fwd) Date: 13 Dec 2000 21:52:49 PST On Dec 13, Swftl@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Subj: Resolution to save electoral college *****APC NEWSWIRE***** http://www.americanpolicy.org/ December 13, 2000 Volume 3, Issue 15 A Publication of the American Policy Center Tom DeWeese, President Peyton Knight, Editor 13873 Park Center Road Herndon, VA 20171 703-925-0881 FAX: 703-925-0991 apc@americanpolicy.org ***Congressional Resolution to Save Electoral College from Liberal Attacks The hubbub surrounding the current election debacle is prompting many liberals in Congress to steer our current electoral process away from the Electoral College and toward a popular national vote. The liberal media establishment is feeding this insanity with their constant references to =E2=80=9CAmerican democracy=E2=80=9D and our =E2=80=9Cdemocra= tic system of government.=E2=80=9D You can almost hear our Founding Fathers rolling over= in their graves. America was, of course, established as a Constitutional Republic. A republican form of government ensures that the inherent rights of all individuals are protected from the selfish desires of a simple majority. This guarantee of equal rights is manifested in the Electoral College, which protects smaller, less populous states from being dominated by liberal, urban centers in our national elections. Who=E2=80=99s leading the charge of liberal collectivists? None other than Senator-Elect Hillary Clinton of New York. She=E2=80=99s been quoted: =E2=80=9CI believe strongly that in a democracy we should respect the will = of the people, and to me that means it's time to do away with the Electoral College and move to the popular election of our Presidents.=E2=80=9D Wow. The woman with zero political experience, who once tried to socialize our healthcare system, is now prepared to destroy one of the last pure bastions of our Republic=E2=80=A6for good. Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) has responded to this idiocy with H. Con. Res. 443, =E2=80=9CExpressing the sense of the Congress in reaffirming the United States of America as a republic.=E2=80=9D This resolution is vital = to thwarting the liberal attack on our electoral process. As Rep. Paul stated in his weekly column: =E2=80=9CThey [liberals] want to nullify the voting power of the smaller, pro-liberty states. Supporters of my resolution in Congress can send a strong message that every state still matters, and that liberty is more important than shifting majority sentiment.=E2=80=9D We need to take a strong stand to protect the Electoral College and the U.S. Constitution by building support for H. Con. Res. 443=E2=80=A6NOW! **ACTION TO TAKE 1. Call your Representative and demand that he or she support this vital resolution. Capitol Hill House Switchboard: (202) 225-3121. (Simply ask for your Representative by name) 2. Call Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert, and urge him to support H. Con. Res. 443. Rep. Hastert: (202) 225-2976. CALL HIM TODAY! ***IRS to Target Conservative Non-Profits and Regulate the Internet In its relentless pursuit to regulate both the Internet and conservative non-profit organizations, the Internal Revenue Service thinks it has found a way to kill two birds with one stone. Recently, the IRS sneakily released =E2=80=9CAnnouncement 2000-84=E2=80=9D soliciting public = comment on newly proposed regulations for charities, think tanks, and non-profit educational foundations. Specifically, the tax mongers want to regulate certain forms of speech, even restrict who a think tank is allowed to =E2=80=9Clink to=E2=80=9D on t= heir website. This is a thinly veiled attempt by the IRS to continue their assault on conservative non-profit organizations=E2=80=94with the added bon= us of sticking their grubby, little, regulatory hands into the Internet cookie jar. House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-TX) condemned the IRS, saying, =E2=80=9CThe IRS has no business getting involved in whether a think tank h= as links on its website=E2=80=A6We will be watching what they do, and we will = not tolerate any backdoor attempt to regulate the Internet.=E2=80=9D **ACTION TO TAKE 1. Tell the IRS you oppose any attempt to regulate non-profits and the Internet! Write, call, and email your objections to =E2=80=9CAnnouncement 2000-84.=E2=80=9D The public comment period on this issue closes February = 13, 2001. Comments are to be directed to Judith E. Kindell, the principal author of the announcement, at: IRS, 1111 Constitution Ave. NW, Washington, D.C. 20224. Ms. Kindell=E2=80=99s email address is TE/GE-Exempt-2@irs.gov The phone number of the IRS is (202) 622-4010. 2. Call your Representative and both of your Senators and urge them to stop any attempt by the IRS to regulate the Internet and damage the non-profit industry. Capitol Hill House Switchboard: (202) 225-3121. Capitol Hill Senate Switchboard: (202) 224-3121. ******************************************** Do you subscribe to the DeWeese Report, the American Policy Center's premier publication that investigates and exposes the agendas of the most powerful political movements in our society and includes facts you can use everyday to protect your children, your property and your personal privacy? If you would like to subscribe or know more information, click here: http://www.americanpolicy.org/deweese/main.htm ******************************************** To unsubscribe from the APC Action Alert System, write to apc@americanpolicy.org and put "unsubscribe" in the subject with your email address in the body of the message. (If you are receiving this message but did not request a subscription, you may have been subscribed by a friend who thought you would enjoy it. We do not "spam" potential readers, nor do we distribute our e-mail address data to any third party under any circumstances!) ***PLEASE DISTRIBUTE TO 5 MORE PEOPLE*** [---------------------------Forwarded message ends-------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Marxist media elite aided and abetted Gore's Lies (fwd) Date: 13 Dec 2000 23:47:25 PST On Dec 13, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Comment: Remember These 'Terrible People' Phil Brennan Wednesday, Dec. 13, 2000 The American Spectator's John Corry put it best: "Al Gore and his people are spoilers. If they can't win the White House, they will discredit the administration of George Bush. Donna Brazile, Gore's campaign manager, is working with the Democratic National Committee and the unions to stage demonstrations. What matters to them is not the country, but their ability to seize and hold power. They really are terrible people." It's important that we remember that. To be forewarned is to be forearmed, and in recent weeks we've certainly had plenty of warning that we are dealing with the very worst of John Corry's terrible people. Enough warning to know that we'd better be forearmed and ready to take on a determined mob bent on usurping power. I hate to harp on it, but we are engaged in a war a genuine civil war and at stake are our liberties and our ability to govern ourselves. We face a relentless, conscienceless enemy that has proven it will stop at nothing to get what it wants. These people will lie, cheat, and resort to slander, bribery, chicanery, and every form of corruption. Nothing will deter them, not the law, not the Constitution that gives it force and legitimacy, not morality, not ethics. There are no limits to their determination to achieve absolute domination over the people of America. We hear the siren song that would lull us into accepting the belief that somehow we can reach an accommodation with these terrible people. We are told that reasonable people can find common ground upon which they can agree. But these are not reasonable people. There is no common ground those who cherish freedom can find with those whose idea of freedom is the freedom only to agree with them. Look at what they have done in the past month. Without a moment's hesitation they have plunged this nation into chaos, divided the American people into warring parties, created a bitterness between them that will linger for years to come, and promised that if they don't get what they want they will do everything in their power to further divide the people and prolong the national agony. And, aided and abetted by our Marxist media elite, they have based their case on a series of lies. It's an old tactic with these people: Confuse the issue with mantras, and they are very good at it. They learned a lot in fighting for abortion. Killing babies in their mothers' wombs, a grisly business no pro-abortionist wants to defend on its merits, becomes a civil rights issue it's no longer a matter of killing an unborn human being, it's a "woman's right to choose." The baby becomes a nonentity, a meaningless collection of tissue and flimsy bones. The baby's right to life is subordinated to its mother's right to choose. Move on to the impeachment of William Jefferson Blythe aka Clinton. The president lied his teeth out, committed perjury, obstructed justice and otherwise demeaned his office as no other chief executive before him. His conduct was indefensible and criminal except that it was, after all, "just about sex." That brings us to the mantra "Every vote must count," even when they are clearly not votes. This is perhaps the boldest attempt yet to confuse an issue and win it by slogan. "Ten thousands votes in Miami-Dade were never counted," we heard over and over again. One could correct the speaker point out that they weren't tabulated because they were not legitimate votes; the machine counted them but did not tabulate them and the speaker would simply continue to chant the mantra. Of course, you can't get away with this if the media are doing their job pointing out the outrageous sophistry of the mantra but the media do not do their job because they are allies of the sophists. Instead they repeat the mantras. This is shameful. But it's only a small part of the story. These terrible people aided and abetted vote fraud all across the nation, helping convicted felons and noncitizens to vote by the tens if not the hundreds of thousands. As Jude Wanniski has pointed out, discounting all these fraudulent votes would show that Bush won the popular vote and probably a lot more states than are now in his column. Then there is Jesse Jackson, all but calling for blood in the streets, without a shred of evidence, making explosive charges of racial discrimination in the Florida voting that are nothing more than figments of his demagogic imagination. Remember all of this. Keep it in mind. Remember who and what we are dealing with. Get ready to do battle with the terrible people your liberty and the futures of your children and grandchildren demand no less. Eamus! Phil Brennan is editor and publisher of Wednesday on the Web, http://www.pvbr.com. He is a veteran journalist and one-time Washington correspondent for National Review magazine and a former staff aide to the House Republican Policy Committee. E-mail: pvb@pvbr.com. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2000/12/12/164212.shtml http://www.newsmax.com/cgi-bin/printer_friendly.pl Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [UWSA] Roosevelt talks tough on Scouts (fwd) Date: 14 Dec 2000 07:36:22 PST On Dec 14, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] From the Home of Rich & Peggy Martin Grand Prairie, TX 75050 RichSlick@excite.com It's nice to be important, but it's important to be nice. _______________________________________________ INTRODUCTORY COMMENTARY Note new ISP RichSlick@excite.com --- Support Our Sponsor ------------------------------------ Come to the 2001 International CES in Las Vegas! Register by December 15th and your exhibits plus registration is free! Register today! http://click.topica.com/aaaa2Fb1dh9Cb1yqKZa/ConsumerElectronic On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:11:41 -0800, Jack Perrine wrote: > [ And one imagines that if Teddy Roosevelt had commented on Gays any > piece of paper the comments were written on would flame instantly.... > and so of course a society that condemns scouts and presently for a > brief time likes Gays is about to go down in a massive constitutional > crisis > > Jack ] > > Roosevelt talks tough on Scouts > Charley Reese > December 10, 2000 > http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/columnists/orl-reese121000.column > > > I thought it might make an interesting contrast with current circumstances > to read the words of advice that Teddy Roosevelt gave the Boy Scouts in 1911. > > Before I quote his words, which cynics will say are corny, let me remind > you that these words did not come from either a naive or a wimpy man. > Roosevelt had known the death of loved ones, the hardship of ranching in > the Dakotas, the fierce infighting of being a police commissioner of New > York City, a member of the legislature, a governor, a vice president and a > president. > > He had built the Panama Canal, and he had led men in combat and killed men > in personal combat. There is no modern politician I know of whose resume > comes even close to that of Teddy Roosevelt. > > In a letter to a Scout executive, Roosevelt wrote, "The movement is one for > efficiency and patriotism. It does not try to make soldiers of Boy Scouts > but to make boys who will turn out as men to be fine citizens and who will, > if their country needs them, make better soldiers for having been Scouts. > > "No man is a good citizen unless he so acts as to show that he actually > uses the Ten Commandments and translates the Golden Rule into his life > conduct and I don't mean by this in exceptional cases under spectacular > circumstances, but I mean applying the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule > in the ordinary affairs of every-day life. I hope the Boy Scouts will > practice truth and square dealing and courage and honesty. The man who > counts and the boy who counts are the man and boy who steadily endeavor to > build up, to improve, to better living conditions everywhere and all about > them. > > "The same qualities that mean success or failure to the nation as a whole > mean success or failure in men and boys individually. To be helpless, > self-indulgent, or wasteful will turn the boy into a mighty poor kind of > man just as the indulgence in such vices by the men of a nation means the > ruin of a nation. Any boy is worth nothing if he has not got courage, > courage to stand up against the forces of evil and courage to stand up in > the right path. Let him be unselfish and gentle, as well as strong and > brave. It should be a matter of pride to him that he is not afraid of > anyone and that he scorns not to be gentle and considerate to everyone, > especially to those who are weaker than he is. If he doesn't treat his > mother and sisters well, then he is a poor creature no matter what else he > does; just as a man who doesn't treat his wife well is a poor kind of > citizen no matter what his other qualities may be. Let the boy remember he > must have knowledge, he must cultivate a sound body and a good mind and > train himself so that he can act with quick decision in any crisis that may > arise. Mind, eye, muscle all must be trained so that the boy can master > himself and thereby learn to master his fate." > > This letter is taken from the very first Boy Scout handbook. It has been > reprinted by Applewood Books, Bedford, Mass., and shows an organization > that was pretty tough. It contains, for example, instructions about how to > kill a mad dog and how to stop a runaway horse. > > It's hard to imagine a modern president giving the same advice that Teddy > Roosevelt offered. Most recent presidents have more or less fractured the > Ten Commandments, and, of course, Bill Clinton has not treated his wife nor > any other woman well. And nowadays there are people attacking the Boy > Scouts rather than encouraging them, because they refuse to compromise on > religion and morality. Such is the ruined state of the nation today. > > Jack Perrine | Athena Programming | 626-798-6574 > _________________| 1175 N Altadena Dr | ____________ > Jack@Minerva.com | Pasadena CA 91107 | FAX-398-8620 Cut out the middlemen. Send donations to: Boys Scouts of America National HQ 1329 Walnut Hill Ln. Irving, TX 75162 http://www.SaveOurScouts.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: *A MUST* AN OPEN LETTER TO DEMOCRATS by Dennis Prager *A MUST* (fwd) Date: 14 Dec 2000 07:38:35 PST On Dec 14, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] [ IMPORTANT YOU REPOST FAR AND WIDE. ] An Open Letter to Democrats November 30, 2000 By Dennis Prager. Mr. Prager hosts a national daily radio show based in Los Angeles and is a director of Empower America. He is author of "Happiness Is a Serious Problem" (HarperCollins, 1998). You finally made a big mistake. You probably never thought you would live to see middle America and mainstream Republicans galvanized to resist your ongoing takeover of America. But like other power-hungry groups in history, you didn't know when to hold back. Your party and its standard bearer, Al Gore, have attempted to thwart an election not in the quiet of the night (as in 1960) but in daylight, before the cameras of the world. And finally we have begun to resist. Most of us have never attended a political demonstration. Most of us are not particularly political, preferring work, family, sports, and communal associations to political activism. But now we are angry. By golly, even Bob Dole is angry. Republicans are actually organizing demonstrations. Such activism is so rare that "conservative activist" is an oxymoron. But for the time being you have changed that. Call it the Chad Revolt. In fact, it is thanks to your changing ballot-counting rules, your emphasis on hand counts in only those Florida districts you dominate, your invalidation of military ballots, your sending of Jesse Jackson to rouse race-based anger and of Alan Dershowitz to smear Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, that many of us have decided, finally, to fight back. We have watched in silence as you have undermined our children's schools, taking more and more money to pay for union members who teach our children less and less. We have watched in silence as you have taken over our once-great universities, as you have substituted political correctness for pursuit of truth. We have watched radical students in university after university shout down the few conservatives ever invited to speak on campus -- while liberal college presidents and deans defend this censorship of speech. We have watched in silence as the fires of racial hatred and anger have been repeatedly stoked by "civil rights leaders" such as Al Sharpton and Kweisi Mfume. Most recently we saw the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People run an ad on American television associating George W. Bush with the lynching of James Byrd. This ad was perhaps the most venomous political ad ever shown on American television, yet no liberal or Democrat offered a condemnation. We have watched in silence as organization after organization has been taken over by liberal and Democratic activists -- from the American Bar Association, to the League of Women Voters, to the American Library Association, to the American Psychological Association, and on to virtually every academic association. We have watched in silence as you attempt to destroy the Boy Scouts, one of the only groups helping boys, especially inner-city boys who have no other constructive outlet for their energies. We have watched in silence as you have made war on the "masculinist" culture of the military, leaving a demoralized and less effective military in the wake of your social experimentation. We have watched in silence as you've taken over children's courts and the ranks of social workers. Many of these people believe that children are better off with no parents than with parents of a different race. They believe that children should almost always be given back to blood-related parents, even those who horribly abuse them. We have watched in silence as trial lawyers take over more and more of American life, leaving citizens prey to lawsuits they cannot defend themselves against. We watch them dominate the Democratic Party, and we watch them become judges who substitute their wills for the democratic process. We have watched in silence as the White House and its sacred rooms have been put up for sale to Democratic party donors and Hollywood stars, as the presidency has been degraded to the point where young people could ask the president of the U.S. on national television what type of underpants he wears. We watched Bill Clinton respond to that question. Likewise, we watched Mr. Gore attempt to demonstrate to the nation that a prolonged and probing kiss before a large national audience somehow dignifies the office of president. We have watched in silence as the leading news media have become indistinguishable from liberal spokespeople, to the extent that NBC news anchor Tom Brokaw actually said "we are ahead" when speaking about Democratic electoral gains on election night. We have watched in silence as the Democratic Party has relied on fomenting anger among Americans for its victories. The more that blacks are angry at whites, the more they vote Democrat. The more that Jews fear Christians, the more they vote Democrat. And the more women distrust men, the more they vote Democrat. Given all this silence in the face of your attempt to control America, it is no wonder you thought you could litigate your way to the presidency. And maybe you could. But lo and behold, the rest of us are beginning to fight. Not enough yet to take back the schools or the courts or the professional organizations or the news media. But enough to let you know that we are out here. Yes, that large block of America between New York and California that in your hearts you believe to be racist, bigoted, anti-Semitic, homophobic and misogynist, is fighting back. You think that way because, in your arrogance, you confuse liberal with decent. But tens of millions of us have a different view of liberal -- as increasingly nihilist. And now, thanks to Mr. Gore not having the decency to do what Richard Nixon did 40 years ago, much of America might still find you frightening, but they no longer find you intimidating. Thankfully for America, you made a big mistake. PH: (800) 225-8584 | FAX: (303) 784-8795 | 8200 S. Akron St., Suite 103, Englewood, CO, 80112 http://www.dennisprager.com/articles_reviews/articles/wsj_letter_to_dems.htm Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: linzellr@datastar.net (Robert Linzell) Subject: FMNews: Secession Date: 14 Dec 2000 20:08:26 -0600 F M N e w s -- The Freedom Network Newsletter -------------------------------------------------- (Dec 13, 2000 edition) Secession: Breaking up is hard to do http://www.free-market.net/spotlight/secession/ Talk of secession has been off-limits in the U.S. ever since that little misunderstanding in the 1860s. Today though, after the bizarre presidential election that wouldn't end, people are talking about whether North America's current political borders make sense. (This page has numerous links to news articles, op/ed pieces, liberty and secession pages, etc.--good jumping off point.) Bob in Mississippi - State Motto: Virtute et Armis ("By Valor and Arms") My PGP Public Key(s): RKBA! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: IRS Buys 2,500 Extra Pistols [just in case] (fwd) Date: 15 Dec 2000 05:32:36 PST On Dec 14, Dave wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] IRS purchases 2,500 extra pistols, 1,000 extra shotguns, and a "Recognition Image Processing System." (???) Sounds like the "kinder and gentler" IRS is here! "Good Morning citizen. We are here to help you. PAPERS PLEASE!!!" [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Oklahoma's Challenge To The World Banksters... (fwd) Date: 15 Dec 2000 11:29:44 PST On Dec 15, BOBWORN@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Friends, As I reported to you several days ago, the non-ratification of the 16th Amendment is beginning to get a lot of attention. For now, the focus is on Oklahoma. After setting the record straight in Oklahoma, the focus will be on other states that were listed as having ratified but in fact, did not. Jim Hardin Particulars of the Oklahoma 16th Amendment Initiative Oklahoma constitutional advocates will offer the 2001 session of the Oklahoma Legislature the opportunity to correct historical error: The 1910 session of the Oklahoma Legislature was credited with endorsing the Sixteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the so-called income tax amendment, when in fact the 1910 legislature did not approve the amendment Congress proposed in 1909. The Secretary of State declared that the amendment had been ratified by 38 states in 1913, but that was clearly not the case. Ratification by 36 of the 48 state legislatures was required, so if Oklahoma and two more legislatures notify Congress that their respective states did not ratify the amendment, the situation Congress would have on its hands would be nearly as interesting as the current presidential election dispute. Text of the Sixteenth Amendment is as follows: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration." The 1910 edition of Oklahoma Legislature journals reflects what the Oklahoma Legislature allegedly ratified via House Joint Resolution No. 5: "Article 16. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and from any census or enumeration." Whatever the Oklahoma Legislature did, it obviously didn=EDt ratify the Sixteenth Amendment Congress proposed. In fact, the Oklahoma version stands in direct opposition to the last clause. But that=EDs only part of the story. The Oklahoma Legislature journal documents that the House of Representatives intentionally amended the proposed amendment, then the Senate not satisfied with the House version, constructed a second amended version. The Senate version was sent to the Secretary of State without the House of Representatives considering and endorsing the Senate version. Where the first issue is concerned, the concurrence rule governs: "The senate and the house must agree on the exact text of any bill before they may send it to the governor. There may not be the slightest variance, etc." (State ex rel., Ashcroft v. Blunt (696 S.W.2d 329, Missouri 1985) In sum, all legislative bodies party to enacting any law, whether constitutional amendment or otherwise, must be in concurrence. Any deviation nullifies that alleged law. It is of no effect. In Oklahoma, the Senate and House respectively endorsed something, but they did not endorse the same legislation. Only Kentucky seems to have a worse record on this score with respect to the Sixteenth Amendment. There, the House ratified the proposed amendment but the Senate rejected it. It was sent to or acquired by the U.S. Secretary of State without both houses of the Kentucky Legislature ratifying it. In a recent telephone visit with Bill Benson of Illinois, who secured documentation relating to the Sixteenth Amendment from archives of the 48 states existent in 1913, I asked how many state legislatures actually ratified the Sixteenth Amendment as Congress offered it or in compliance with procedural requirements. Benson said that he believes virtually any state ratification can be challenged. Even where it first appeared a state legislature properly ratified the proposed amendment, procedural flaws have since been found. Alabama attorney Larry Becraft drafted a proposed joint resolution of the Oklahoma Legislature to consider: ENGROSSED HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. _____ By: (Representative) A Concurrent Resolution memorializing the United States Congress and other officials of the Government of the United States that the Second Oklahoma Legislature convened in 1910 failed to lawfully and legally ratify the Sixteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, the federal income tax amendment, and directing distribution. WHEREAS, Article V of the Constitution for the United States of America authorizes the Congress to submit amendments thereof to the States of this Union which "when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states" become a part of such Constitution, WHEREAS, no State is authorized to alter or change in any way the amendment which the Congress proposes, WHEREAS, in 1909 the Sixty-first Congress proposed an amendment to the Constitution for the United States of America via Senate Joint Resolution No. 40 which reads in words and phrases as follows, to-wit: "Article XVI. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration." WHEREAS, in 1910 the Second Legislature for the State of Oklahoma responded to such Senate Joint Resolution No. 40, and adopted House Joint Resolution No. 5, approved March 14, 1910, WHEREAS, the constitutional amendment which was approved by House Joint Resolution No. 5 read in words and phrases as follows, to-wit: "Article 16: The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and from any census or enumeration." WHEREAS, the amendment to which the Second Legislature for the State of Oklahoma agreed means the opposite of that which was proposed by Congress, WHEREAS, the Second Legislature for the State of Oklahoma failed in 1910 to legally and lawfully ratify the amendment which the Sixty-first Congress proposed. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE 1ST SESSION OF THE 48TH OKLAHOMA LEGISLATURE, THE SENATE CONCURRING THEREIN: THAT the Oklahoma Legislature hereby memorializes the Congress of the United States to review and examine certified copies of the Journals of the 1910 Senate and House of the Oklahoma Legislature, which will be provided upon request, and similarly conclude and resolve that the Second Legislature of the State of Oklahoma failed to legally and lawfully ratify the Sixteenth Amendment. THAT copies of this resolution be sent to the Oklahoma Congressional Delegation; the Governor; the Clerk of the United States House of Representatives; the Secretary of the United States Senate; and the state legislative leaders of all fifty states. Adopted by the House of Representatives the ___ day of ________, 2001. _______________________ Speaker of the House of Representatives Adopted by the Senate the ____ day of ___________, 2001. _______________________ President of the Senate _____ Also, Becraft constructed a suggested model letter to send to Oklahoma officials: ____ From the desk of (insert your name & address) December 8, 2000 PETITION FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES Governor Frank Keating Room 212, State Capitol Building 2300 N. Lincoln Blvd. Oklahoma City, OK 73105 Lieutenant Governor Mary Fallin Room 211, State Capitol Building 2300 N. Lincoln Blvd. Oklahoma City, OK 73105 Sec. of State Mike Hunter Room 101, State Capitol Building 2300 N. Lincoln Blvd. Oklahoma City, OK 73105-4897 Re: Alleged ratification of the 16th Amendment Dear (insert name of govt. official addressee), In 1909, the United States Congress proposed to the States of this nation that the 16th Amendment, the federal income tax amendment, be ratified and made a part of the United States Constitution. This amendment as offered to the States by Congress read as follows: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration." In February, 1913, after a number of States had delivered to U.S. Secretary of State Philander Knox a variety of documents regarding this proposal, Knox proclaimed that 38 States had ratified the amendment and thus it was a part of the U.S. Constitution. At that time, the approval of 36 States was needed to ratify this amendment. It is alleged that Oklahoma was one of the 38 States to have ratified this amendment. However, a review of the 1910 Oklahoma Session Laws reveals that House Joint Resolution No. 5, which purports to have ratified this amendment, read as follows: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and from any census or enumeration." What Oklahoma adopted as this amendment means the exact opposite of the amendment which Congress proposed and this is shown by the deliberate change in the wording of the amendment itself. Legislature bodies must agree upon the precise language in legislative acts; see Ashcroft v. Blunt, 696 S.W.2d 329 (Mo. 1985). It appears clear to me that Oklahoma failed to legally ratify this amendment. The Oklahoma Constitution authorizes the people to seek redress of grievances from the government and that is the purpose of this letter. It cannot be doubted that the 1910 Oklahoma legislature deliberately changed the wording of this amendment, a power it did not possess, and that activity made the actions of the 1910 Oklahoma legislature void. I request that you inform the current Oklahoma legislature of this defect and seek from them a determination that this amendment was not ratified. Your attention to my request is appreciated. Your truly, (Your name) ____________ People throughout Oklahoma are encouraged to submit the proposed legislation to members of the Oklahoma Legislature and encourage them to sign on as sponsors. People throughout the nation are encouraged to send support letters to Oklahoma officials. There will be a preliminary meeting on January 6th so solidify support and coordinate a demonstration scheduled January 19th at the Oklahoma Capitol. The January 6th meeting location will be announced in the next week or so. Becraft will speak at the meeting and Benson will participate providing a personal medical situation doesn't interfere. Dan Meador 1108 N. 2nd Street Ponca City, Oklahoma (580) 765-1415 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: No More Mr. Nice Guy - TOM ADKINS (fwd) Date: 16 Dec 2000 15:35:39 PST On Dec 16, Coolhair1@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] No More Mr. Nice Guy ------------------ the Common Conservative 12/15/00 Link---> commonconservative.com ------------------ No More Mr. Nice Guy Republicans get tough! by Tom Adkins As a cynical friend of mine once observed, "Politics is a bar fight. When the chairs start flying, Democrats smash a beer bottle, jump on the table and snarl. Republicans respond 'Rook to Queen four, please'" It's hard to believe, but after getting sand kicked in our faces by Democrat bullies for 50 years, Republicans finally put up their dukes. They fought a mean, nasty hard-nosed battle against Democrat bullies. And won. Well, whaddaya know! No more Mr. Nice Guy! After two recounts didn't produce a Gore victory, Democrats maneuvered to hijack the election via the razor-thin edge in Florida. But a funny thing happened. Republicans didn't back down. Instead, they got tough. Real tough. The Bush team put together a smart legal strategy and stuck with it, ignoring Democrat recount traps. Meanwhile, James Baker magnificently deflected the Gore team's smoke-and-mirror attacks and fired back with verbal howitzers. Bush communications director Karen Hughes muzzled her candidate as Gore spun his wheels deeper into the mud. Republican pundits across the country attacked over air, land and cable. Even Internet chat rooms were filled with snappy answers to liberal soundbytes. The typically docile everyday Republicans across the country became inspired, marched down to the local protest and gleefully screamed at outnumbered Gore protesters. The RNC even borrowed a time-tested page from the Democrat play book, flying staffers into Florida to boisterously protest Dade County's attempt to secretly "count" ballots. It was pure joy watching the indignant Bill Press (CNN) get flustered when counterpart Tucker Carlson exclaimed "This is great! I'm so proud of them!" Even the US Supremes got into the act. In an arena where liberals have weaseled all too many concessions from conservative appointees, the latest Democrat shenanigans stirred up angry moderate blood. The overrated David Boise was amazingly tongue-tied as he discovered the shtick that worked wonders with the home team Florida Supreme outlaws ignited the usually reserved Sandra Day O'Connor, who turned him into her personal punching bag. In the end, the Florida Supremes got swatted down three times for getting frisky and rewriting election laws. Throughout the hearings, every Democrat thrust was thwarted by a brilliant Republican parry. And in a display of pure trash-talking insult, the Republican Florida House voted in a slate of GOP electors before the Supremes rendered their final judgment. In the face of Democrat pressure, Republicans never blinked. Everyone stayed on message, spinning risky political stances into winning arguments in the courtroom, over the airwaves, on the street, and into victory. I weep with pride. Liberal defector David Horowitz stated in his book, The Art Of Political War, "As the party of bankrupt principles, discredited policies, and two faced political arguments, the Democrats have dramatically demonstrated how effective the art of political war can be in the hands of a party that understands its principles." You got that right, Dave. There are still Democrats looking to finagle the election for Gore. The annoying Bob Wexler threatened to upset the electoral confirmation process. Slimy Bob Beckel is trying to blackmail Bush electors. But in the aftermath of the Florida fiasco, GW looks shrewd. His staff of old bulls from GOP history, Dick Cheney, James Baker and Colin Powell know how to fight and win these wars. They played butt-kicking offense, and the Democrat bullies were reeling and squealing with every hard punch. And look who won? Upper-crust Republicans should pay attention. People aren't motivated by smoking jacket wearing potbellies lounging at the country club, sniffing brandy and muttering under their breath. They want blood. Guts. Principle. Action. Above all, they want victory. That means bare-knuckles political brawling. The new-breed Republicans instinctively know this. Chuck Muth, just elected National Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus states flatly, "The Kumbaya wing of the GOP won't find a sympathetic ear as long as I'm chairman. We're in a dead serious war of ideas. I'm in this to win, not split the difference. The RLC will march toward the sound of cannons, not retreat from them. Democrats and others who would shred the constitution need to be wiped off the electoral map." Yow! Them's fightin' words, folks! Maybe that spirit finally percolated up to the rest of Republican leadership. Cause it sure looks like the skinny Republican kid pumped iron and took boxing lessons. And got an attitude to boot. You want summa dis? No more Mr. Nice guy. It's about time. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: [HuntersHeritage] Seriously Ill Get Chance To Hunt (fwd) Date: 16 Dec 2000 21:41:35 PST On Dec 16, Donald Blackburn wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Reply-To: HuntersHeritage@egroups.com Friday December 15 2:37 PM ET Seriously Ill Get Chance To Hunt By JEFFREY BAIR, Associated Press Writer PITTSBURGH (AP) - The Make-A-Wish Foundation has granted thousands of requests from children with life-threatening illnesses, sending youngsters to Walt Disney World or introducing them to their favorite pop stars. But there are some wishes the foundation won't grant. For the past year, Make-A-Wish has refused to arrange hunting trips. That's where Hunt of a Lifetime has come in. The organization, formed to grant hunting requests no longer met by Make-A-Wish, has arranged several trips, including a safari with rock 'n' roll wild man and ardent hunter Ted Nugent. ``Make-A-Wish just makes me want to puke my guts out,'' Nugent said. ``What could be more pure than the last wishes of a young child? And to deny that because of political correctness? That's just outrageous.'' The Motor City Madman will travel to South Africa in July with Zachary Martin, a 16-year-old from Yreka, Calif., with bone cancer. ``Jeez, going hunting in Africa, and with Ted Nugent. It's been a dream of mine to hunt with him ever since I started watching his shows,'' Zachary said. Nugent, the singer of ``Cat Scratch Fever,'' said he and the teen-ager will go bowhunting for zebra, warthogs and impalas. ``Let me tell you, when you go hunting with Ted Nugent, there is no Janet Reno (news - web sites) around to stop you. There is nothing more beautiful than that,'' Nugent said this week. Make-A-Wish has granted 83,000 wishes but put a stop to hunting outings, said Jim Maggio, a spokesman for the charity. ``It's a safety concern, basically with exposing the kids and other participants to the potential for danger from a weapon being handled by someone who is in a weakened state from a life-threatening disease,'' Maggio said. Animal rights groups had criticized hunting trips arranged by Phoenix-based Make-A-Wish. ``We see something ironic here,'' said Heidi Prescott, director of the Fund for Animals. ``They're teaching a child to kill and cause another living being to suffer at a time when that child, we would figure, would be empathetic about the quality of life.'' Hunt of a Lifetime was founded by Tina Pattison, a bus driver from suburban Erie, Pa., whose stepson, Matt, died last year during chemotherapy for lymph node cancer. Before Matt's death, Pattison tried to raise money to send him hunting - Make-A-Wish still allowed such trips but wouldn't help because he was too old at 19. The people of the little town of Nordegg in Canada heard his story and raised money for Matt to fly to a hunting camp by helicopter. He shot a moose whose antlers were 41/2 feet across. Cash donations made at Matt's funeral were used to start Hunt of a Lifetime, which mostly runs on contributions. ``Some people said the money ought to go to Make-A-Wish, but I don't think that's what Matt would have wanted because it forbids the very thing he was all about - hunting,'' Pattison said. ``I don't want anyone whose child is sick to have to go through the headaches I did.'' So far, five youths have hunted for free through arrangements made by Hunt of a Lifetime. Comedian Jeff Foxworthy will take a 20-year-old cancer patient from Delaware deer hunting early next year. Pattison said the Nebraska and North Carolina chapters of Make-A-Wish agreed to refer young people to her. Nugent, Foxworthy and other hunting guides donate their services. Christine Manning of Penn Run, Pa., said she watched Hunt of a Lifetime work wonders for her 14-year-old son, Andrew, who had seven operations in seven months this year and grew depressed with a disease that makes blood vessels grow rapidly in his right thigh. Last month, Andrew shot a 700-pound bull elk. ``He had been immobile on the couch, and you should have seen him shoot down out of that tree,'' she said. ``He ran to the animal on pure adrenaline, I guess.'' - On the Net: Hunt Of A Lifetime at http://www.huntofalifetime.org Ted Nugent at http://www.tednugent.com ---------------------- Hunt4life.com: http://www.hunt4life.com Hunt4life.com Hunting Forums: http://pub32.ezboard.com/bhunt4life69085 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Let's Get Clinton's School-to-Work (STW) Program Out Of Our Schools! (fwd) Date: 16 Dec 2000 23:41:48 PST On Dec 16, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] God Bless Phyllis Schlafly! Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 3:43 PM > Let's Get STW Out Of Our Schools! > > Eagle Forum has been working for years to bring an end to Clinton's > School-to-Work, which passed in 1994. STW changes the mission > and curriculum of the public schools to serve the workplace > instead of the child. It replaces academic studies in math, science, > English, and history with job training designed to meet the needs of > the local business community. The mission of schools should be > to teach children academics, not to apprentice them to menial > jobs. > > > STW IS STILL A BAD IDEA! > STW is part of the Clinton plan to control our economy by controlling > the schools. This was made clear in the infamous Marc Tucker "Dear > Hillary" letter (full text available on Eagle Forum's web site). The > name of the Education and the Workforce Committee indicates that > the committee is designed to extend and expand Clinton's STW > proposals instead of terminating and de-funding them. > > We believe education should be separate from workforce issue in > order to reassure parents that congressional leaders understand the > different functions of education issues and the labor-force concerns. > We strongly support separating the Education and the Workforce > Committee. Education should stand alone in its own committee, > to ensure parents that their children are not being used merely to > serve the workforce, as in the German model. > > > SUPPORT FOR STW IS ALIVE AND WELL! > Unfortunately a letter is now circulating on Capitol Hill by > Congressman John Boehner which not only opposes the > separation of the committee functions into Education and Workforce, > but also indicates that he subscribes to the STW approach to > education. In this letter he said, "Particularly in today's economy, > it is simply impossible to consider workforce and education > issues separately.The single biggest educational issue is > preparing our children for the demands of the workforce." > > > ACTION ITEMS! > Select members of the Republican Conference (the Steering > Committee) will soon meet to decide the jurisdiction of the > committees. The Republican Leadership is planning to discuss > splitting the Education and Workforce Committee this week! > > Contact the Steering Committee immediately and urge them to > separate the Education and Workforce committee into two > committees to assure parents that you intend to make a clean > break with the mission and curriculum set forth in Clinton's School to > Work Act of 1994. It is also urgent that we have a chairman of the > Education Committee who is determined to return control to parents > and local schools and stop Clinton's federalizing of school > curriculum. Immediate action is essential! > > Steering Committee Members: > All area codes are 202, unless otherwise indicated. > > Dennis Hastert: 225-0600 Dick Armey: 225-4000 > > Cass Ballenger: 225-2576 Joe Barton: 225-2002 > > Roy Blunt: 225-6536 Sonny Callahan: 225-4931 > > Ken Calvert: 225-1986 Dave Camp: 225-3561 > > Chris Cox: 225-5611 Barbara Cubin: 225-2311 > > Tom Davis: 225-1492 Tom Latham: 225-5476 > > John Linder: 225-4272 John McHugh: 225-4611 > > Jerry Moran: 225-2715 Deborah Pryce: 225-2015 > > Ralph Regula: 225-3876 Bob Stump: 225-4576 > > John Sweeney: 225-5614 J. C. Watts: 225-5107 > > Don Young: 225-5765 > > John Culberson: (New Member) 281-493-2960 - district office > > CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD: 202-224-3121 > > > SENATE: http://www.senate.gov/contacting/index_by_state.cfm > > REPRESENTATIVES: http://www.house.gov/writerep/ > > Because of computer upgrades, the Congressional e-mail system > may not be working. > > > Online version of this alert: > http://eagleforum.org/alert/00-12-12/ed-committee.shtml > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Eagle Forum http://www.eagleforum.org > PO Box 618 eagle@eagleforum.org > Alton, IL 62002 Phone: 618-462-5415 > Fax: 618-462-8909 > --------------------------------------------------------------- > NEW DIRECTIONS TO SUBSCRIBE AND UNSUBSCRIBE: > > USE OUR FORM: > http://eagleforum.org/misc/subscribe.html [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: TITANIC'S LAST MYSTERY REVEALED ! (fwd) Date: 18 Dec 2000 00:40:03 PST On Dec 17, BOBWORN@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ............spiker@coollink.net writes: From: "Emma Shlarp" From the news Desk at YACE Freedom 91.9 FM Help spread the news! TITANIC'S LAST MYSTERY REVEALED ! For years, the admiralty and maritime scholars have reviewed every statistic regarding the late great ship. The simple facts were that the ship sailed with 2,214 men, women and children aboard. Of that number, 1,503 perished while only 711 survived. One of the last great mysteries was the previously unexplained fact that, of the 711 survivors, 704 were registered Republicans. It has been only a theory for years, but recent events in Florida confirm earlier suspicions: all Republicans aboard the Titanic were able to follow the arrows to the life rafts. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [ALLY] A GOLD MINE OF PATRIOT INFORMATION (fwd) Date: 18 Dec 2000 00:42:11 PST On Dec 17, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 2:11 PM > All Work and No Pay > by PAUL A. 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Take this opportunity >to financially support J.A.I.L. which is much needed. Thanks. > >I Want To Sell Your Children - Gov't. > >www.nationaloutrage.org > > > > > >The State of Utah is buying federal dollars with the blood of our children > > > >Throughout America, an average of 3,000 children a day are stolen from >their homes and placed in foster care to fuel a multi-billion dollar >money-making machine. Utah s system is typical, and provides a case study >in both the tactics of the government and how individual citizens can >defend themselves and their families. To you, your children are your life. >To the thousands of caseworkers, supervisors, therapists, judges, and >doctors whose salaries are paid by this machine, your children represent >job security. Fresh meat. Despite what they may have told you, your case >is not a weird exception. They re doing this to everyone. > >.... The federal government pays the State of Utah at least $25,000 for >each child the State can remove from its family and place in foster care. >The more children the State can take, the more federal money its child >"welfare" system can rake in. Each year, hundreds of families throughout >Utah fall prey to the Gestapo tactics of the Division of Child and Family >Services. > >.... > >Utah's Juvenile Courts Operate in Secret! > >Did you know that the following Constitutional rights are prohibited in >Utah's Juvenile courts? > * The right to remain silent > * The right to confront witnesses > * The right to a jury > * The right to a public trial > * The right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty >A detailed discussion of the problems with Utah's child welfare laws is >articulated very well by the Hon. Arthur G. Christean, a retired Utah >juvenile court judge in an article entitled, >"The Child Welfare Reform >Act of 1994: Is the Cure Worse than the Problem?" ....Telephone >435-654-1152 >Postal address >P.O. Box 486, Heber City, Utah 84032 >Electronic mail >General Information: >info@nationaloutrage.org > > >---------- > >J.A.I.L. is an acronym for (Judicial Accountability Initiative Law) >JAIL's very informative website is found at >www.jail4judges.org >JAIL proposes a unique new addition to our form of government. >JAIL is powerful! JAIL is dynamic! JAIL is America's ONLY hope! >JAIL's is spreading across America like a fast moving wildfire! >JAIL is making inroads into Congress for federal accountability! >JAIL may be supported at P.O. Box 207, N. Hollywood, CA 91603 >To subscribe or be >removed: >add-remove-jail@mindspring.com >To contact the author of JAIL4Judges: >jail4judges@mindspring.com >All E-Groups are encouraged to sign on at >jail4judges@egroups.com > >"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, >tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." - Samuel Adams > >"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is >striking at the root." -- Henry David Thoreau <>< [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [SSN not Required] Fwd: [Lis-LEAF] US Customs Service enforcing a NEW LAW and other IRS invasions of privacy on the way (fwd) Date: 18 Dec 2000 15:20:35 PST On Dec 18, Ray Iddings wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Forwarded for you information ... -------- Original Message -------- invasions of privacy on the way [Lis-LEAF@egroups.com] [NB: All references herein can be researched in the Privacy pages http://freedomlaw.com/Privacy.html and the Law Library http://freedomlaw.com/sovernlb.htm. In addition to the magazines mentioned hereinbelow, material for this message came from _The Financial Privacy Report_, which has been referred to in past messages. sRJ] 19 USC sec. 142(3)(a)(6) which went into effect April 1, 2000 Any merchandise imported from abroad by a person in the US must have listed on the entry documents "the name, street address, and appropriate identification number of that person" and Customs says that appropriate identification number is, you guessed it, the Social Security or Federal Tax ID number, to cross check for importing or shipping violations. The Royal Canadian Mint Fall 2000 product catalog includes notice informing US customers that they must supply their "tax identification number" with any order and it has added a box for the number on its new order form. Their notice also includes a phone number for the US Customs office in Champlain, as well as the US Customs website address -- www.customs.ustreas.gov -- for customers seeking information on the requirement. Royal Canadian Mint spokesman Pierre Morin assured _Coin World_ magazine, "This is strictly information we have to deliver to the US Customs people" and that the "tax number" will not become part of a mailing address label or other paperwork visible to those outside the nations' sundry Customs agencies. Of course, under separate US privacy protection law, no US agency may demand a Social Security number except as it relates to tax and withholding requirements -- though many exceptions are grandfathered in, and, presumably, this doesn't trigger the restriction because the agency doing the asking is a foreign entity. So far, the requirement doesn't seem to have filtered down to private Canadian firms selling coins to US customers via eBay, ads in publications like Coin World, and so forth. Additionally, 24-carat gold and pure silver Maple Leafs -- RCM's most popular bullion products -- are still available from US based wholesalers and retailers. * In late October, one arm of the government gave permission to another arm of the government to examine the accounts of thousands of US taxpayers who hold credit cards, charge cards, and/or debit cards issued by banks in the Bahamas, the Cayman Islands, Antigua, and Barbuda for the years 1998 and 1999. The AP reports that a federal judge "agreed with the IRS that cardholders may have violated US tax laws and that their identities are not readily available from other sources." According to the AP, this is one of the largest investigations to target offshore accounts in the history of the IRS. Though the three targeted countries have strict banking-privacy laws (the Caymans caved in to pressure from the Western tax cartel to overturn their private-banking laws in favor of regulations designed to offer IRS and DEA a "helpful transparency." The credit card companies are headquartered in Miami, over which IRS has jurisdiction. In the past, similar situations have occurred wherein IRS has investigated offshore activity by claiming jurisdiction over banks with branches in the US. [NOTE: typically banks accounts must be opened before cards issue so the point of this exercise is more than a lunch check; however, there are ways of opening accounts with banks, trusts and, now, credit card companies that don't have any presence in the US.] "Conspiracy" is anything an overzealous and enterprising prosecutor says it is and "criminal behavior" is the bureaucrats, and other would-be tyrants, way of making a crime out of even the desire of an honest person to keep his/her affairs private: "There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." -- Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, Ch. III, "White Blackmail" And just look at the definition of money laundering, "A process that obscures the source or application of money." FPR editor Vin Suprynowicz says, "In earlier police states, forcing men to drop their trousers in public was justified as "the best way to find the circumcised Jews." The next time someone tries to justify imposing fines of 30% of their receipts on legitimate forms simply for refusing to snitch on their customers -- 98% of whom are completely law-abiding -- ask them if they'd also like to examine your sex organs. After all, who could object ... unless he had something to hide?" BUT WAIT! There's more: New regulations are emerging from IRS that will have what looks to be a dire effect on offshore banks and brokers. As of the first of the year, IRS is requiring all overseas financial institutions that provide investment services in the US capital markets to become "Qualified Intermediaries." In order to so qualify, foreign banks and brokers must fill out and file detailed IRS forms that identify any client, whether a non-US or US resident, who invests in US securities. If a foreign bank or broker refuses to participate in the Qualified Intermediary program, it will have to pay a whopping 30% tax on the proceeds of the sale of any US security. Again, from FRP: "So here we have a sort of Sophie's Choice. Anyone who holds an investment account with an offshore bank or broker, no matter if he's a US citizen or not, has four options. One, he has to put himself in the IRS database (and, presumably, in the massive super-computer of FinCen, the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network of the US Department of Treasury); furthermore, if he already reports all foreign accounts on his annual tax forms, he has to suffer a further invasion of his privacy, and if he doesn't he has to incriminate himself. Or two, to avoid the reporting requirements, he has to face a 30% bite out of the sale of any investments in the US markets. Three, he has to sell his US investments before the regulations take effect on January 1, 2001. Or four, he has to look for a bank or broker, somewhere, anywhere, around this shrinking world that not only refuses to buy into the IRS blackmail, but also has the backing of its sovereign government. "The Treasury Department and IRS can get away with crap like this as long as the stock market is going up, or not dropping too fast. But what if massive foreign sales of US securities start flooding into the markets in response to this impost? Might it precipitate a nosedive?" ---------------- NEW: SUBSCRIBE TO Lis-LEAF the Learning Electronically About Freedom mailing service at http://freedomlaw.com/FORM.html Community email addresses: Unsubscribe: Lis-LEAF-unsubscribe@onelist.com List owner: Lis-LEAF-owner@onelist.com Shortcut URL to this page: http://www.onelist.com/community/Lis-LEAF [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: NOT Danforth for Attorney General! (fwd) Date: 18 Dec 2000 15:32:36 PST On Dec 18, Donald Blackburn wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Dec. 18 Neal Knox Report -- Former Sen. John Danforth's name is being floated as Attorney General in the Bush Administration. SINK IT! Danforth was in charge of the Waco cover-up. He ignored evidence that FBI and ATF had lied and distorted the truth, but did nothing to any of them. The only one prosecuted was and is Bill Johnston, who went overboard to prosecute the Branch Davidians, but committed the unpardonable sin of criticizing his own agency -- pointing out to Janet Reno that she had not been properly informed and that at least some claims of the Waco nuts were based on fact. Remember, too, that Danforth, while Missouri Senator claimed to be a solid defender of the right to keep and bear arms -- until he announced his retirement, when he simultaneously blasted gun owners and gun ownership. For George W. Bush to appoint Danforth as Attorney General guarantees that Waco and Ruby Ridge will never be properly investigated -- and odds are that it won't be no matter who is appointed AG. Even worse, his appointment would send a message to Federal law enforcement that they can do whatever they wish to the American citizens, without fear of retribution. I suggest you try getting the message to him and to Dick Cheney at Advice@BushCheneyTransition.com, 703-610-6302 or 703-918-2913(fax) Or http://www.bushcheneytransition.com/ Bush-Cheney Presidential Transition Foundation, Inc. 1616 Anderson Rd. McLean, VA 22102 Or George W. Bush Office of the Governor P.O. Box 12428 Austin, Texas 78711-2428 Or http://www.governor.state.tx.us/e-mail.html Make the subject line: Don't Appoint Danforth Attorney General I can't swear that these addresses work (which I've picked up off the buzz off the net) but he needs to hear from us -- which is why I'm also using some of my own channels to get him the message. ---------------------- Another name that's been circulating for various Bush posts in Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, whose appointment to anything -- particularly anything to do with law enforcement -- will bring Pennsylvania gunowners off the wall. Last week two groups sued Gov. Ridge and the State Police Commissioner for keeping records of gun purchases in direct violation of Pennsylvania law. In their long-simmering suit Allegheny County Sportsmen's League and the Lehigh Valley Firearms Coalition charge that the state is maintaining a database of law abiding gun owners, despite a 1997 law that specifically prohibits such record-keeping for more than 72 hours. In an October 6 letter to a state representative whose help ACSL enlisted, the police commissioner acknowledged that state police have retained copies of firearms applications and sales records since 1933, although they had no authority -- prior to 1995 -- to keep them for more than six years. ------------------ State Presidential electors are voting in their state capitols today, and I pray that none violate their oaths by failing to support the candidates who won their states. Bush only won one more Elector than the required 271, and fierce Democrat consultant and campaign advisor Bob Beckel has been doing his best for weeks to break off at least three Electors. There probably won't be any "Faithless Electors," but I'll sleep easier when those votes are officially cast. -- Help us keep you informed! Send your Firearms Coalition dues to: Neal Knox Associates 7771 Sudley Road, No. 44 Manassas, VA 20109 Suggested annual dues are the price of a box of ammunition -- $15 - $25. -- This is the Firearms Coalition Alerts List. To subscribe or unsubscribe send mail to fcalerts-request@lists.best.com with the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" in the body. Archives of these messages are stored at http://www.nealknox.com/alerts/. Copyright (c) 2000 Neal Knox Associates. All Rights Reserved. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larry ball Subject: I swear on my right to life, and my right to my property, specifically Date: 18 Dec 2000 19:11:23 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------12F211AF31167F13C4370644 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://members.home.net/drcalvert/I%20swear.htm --------------12F211AF31167F13C4370644 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="I swear.htm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="I swear.htm" Content-Base: "http://members.home.net/drcalvert/I%20 swear.htm" Content-Location: "http://members.home.net/drcalvert/I%20 swear.htm" I swear on my right to life, and my right to my property, specifically my right to the free use and enjoyment of my

 

C - 68 Gun Control requires the sanction of the victim. You, are the victim. Do not give it to them!

I solemnly swear on my right to life, and my right to my property, specifically my right to the free use and enjoyment of my firearms, that I shall never register any of my presently unregistered long guns, and I shall resist any attempt by any government to confiscate my property. They can imprison me but I will never surrender my individual rights.
Douglas R. Calvert

Great Canadians who fought to save our grandchildren from fascism

286 Calverts died in WWI and WWII fighting for your freedom. I am one half Carpenter, the Honour Roll shows 515 of them died fighting also. I regret that I never met any of them. How many individuals with your name fought for your freedom? You can find out go to:

http://www.cwgc.org/ and visit the honour roll!

Yes, we will protect the rights of your grandchildren, Rest in Peace.

The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929. From 1929 to 1953, tweny million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Turkey established gun control in 1911. From 1915 to 1917, one and a half million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938. From 1939 to 1945 thirteen million Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, mentally ill people, and other "mongrelized peoples," unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, twenty million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemaula established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, one hundred thousand Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, three hundred thousand Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated people", unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.  (reproduced without permission from OnTarget, Newsletter of the Edmonton Indoor Range & Gun Shop Ltd.)

In 1992 Canada agressively instituted severe Gun Control and in 1998 followed up with TOTAL Gun Registry.

The clock is ticking.............On Jan 1, 2003 Canada may only round up Gun Control Dissenters.

Advocates of property control seem to think that C-68 will reduce crime and provide peace and security to all. They had better check the premise because C-68 is a major violation of the fundamental right to property which is a necessary corollary to the right to life. I do not understand how they think we will have peace and security in Canada when the State refuses to recognize individual rights. When even one Canadian is murdered on his doorstep defending his inalienable right to private property (his guns) it will be an act of war by the state police against the citizens of this country. It is my personal belief that such an act will not go unpunished. When that happens God help us all. Douglas R. Calvert

Unintended Consequences
by John Ross, Timothy Mullin
We all ought to read this book!

BATF goes after John Ross!

WE WILL NEVER REGISTER OUR LONG GUNS

The intent of this page was to post as many individual names of others who likewise swore to defend their individual rights. Ather receiving the following I decided not to post any of the names not wanting possible harm to come to those individuals as a result of anything I do.

"While I agree wholeheartedly with what is said here, I wonder if anyone has really thought through the idea of posting (assumedly for public view) the names of people who have guns in their homes, and are unwilling to register them? Think about it ... who would delight in knowing this? The criminals, perhaps? The State, perhaps? Why would anyone want to assemble this list for their convenience? Think about it!  Then don't do it!!  Or you won't have your guns when you really need them!!" Thanks, you are right.. I will not post any names

 

In Liberty we trust.

--------------12F211AF31167F13C4370644-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boyd Subject: Re: I swear on my right to life, and my right to my property, Date: 18 Dec 2000 17:35:30 -0800 Perhaps, with education about the possible downside, you could allow posters the option of having their name stated publicly? Clearly, these people could be putting more on the line and they should know that up front. But, putting your personal safety on the line to make a statement about this... A statement that Canadian patriots might reasonably expect to stir their co-countrymen even more if the State actually did seize their personal property, is something I think everybody should decide on for themselves. Eliminating this organized chance to speak out publicly might -not- be the best long term plan. All IMO of course, and somewhate hypothetically as we (your neighbors to the south here) are swooped up by the National Instant Check System rather then C68. Yours in Freedom, Boyd Kneeland > larry ball wrote: > > http://members.home.net/drcalvert/I%20swear.htm > > > C - 68 Gun Control requires the sanction of the victim. You, are the > victim. Do not give it to them! > > I solemnly swear on my right to life, and my right to my property, > specifically my right to the free use and enjoyment of my firearms, > that I shall never register any of my presently unregistered long > guns, and I shall resist any attempt by any government to confiscate > my property. They can imprison me but I will never surrender my > individual rights. > Douglas R. Calvert snip > "While I agree wholeheartedly with what is said here, I wonder if > anyone has really thought through the idea of posting (assumedly for > public view) the names of people who have guns in their homes, and are > unwilling to register them? Think about it ... who would delight in > knowing this? The criminals, perhaps? The State, perhaps? Why would > anyone want to assemble this list for their convenience? Think about > it! Then don't do it!! Or you won't have your guns when you really > need them!!" Thanks, you are right.. I will not post any names > > > > [Image][Image][Image] > > In Liberty we trust. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: KATHIE'S KORNER (fwd) Date: 18 Dec 2000 18:25:40 PST On Dec 18, Kathie Morgan wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] There s a recount being proposed for this country that will have consequences for this country every bit as dire as the recent recount down in Florida. The U.S. Census Bureau has proposed to take the number of people they actually COUNTED this year and then - in some neighborhoods - to multiply these figures by some percentages. So that, for example, in a Republican community where the census-takers counted 44,000 people, that community would be said to have 44,000 people in the final count. But in a neighboring Democrat community where only 40,000 people were counted, that figure could be multiplied by, say, 111 percent, giving the final count as 44,400. The Census Bureau reasons that Democrats (like their ballots) are less likely to be counted ... and they were reasoning that way even before the recent election. It reminds me of the way an old captain of mine used to calculate for the newspaper the number of fish caught by his passengers. He would start with the number of fish he caught, say 5. But he was fishing only half-time, he would figure, so he would multiply the 5 by 2. Then he would add 2 or 3 for the fact that if today s weather had been as good as yesterday s he would have those too, and he d count 2 or 3 beyond that for the fact that if this were the best time of year for fishing we d have caught even more. Whoops - that s 15 fish, the limit, and we have 20 fishermen aboard so we must have caught 300 fish under ideal conditions. The newspaper would report 300 fish, never knowing that the actual count had been only one-fifth that many. In fishing, it didn t matter all that much. In the census, it matters a great deal. Let your representatives and your newspapers know that you re not happy about this proposal. And pray for America! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: ACLU Sues to Eliminate Senior Discounts [Discriminatory] (fwd) Date: 19 Dec 2000 23:08:26 PST On Dec 19, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ACLU Sues to Eliminate Senior Discounts BALTIMORE, MD =97 If you are a senior citizen and you've grown accustomed t= o getting a small discount when you shop at Walmart or eat at Denny's, then you'd better be prepared to start paying full price if the ACLU has its way= . Attorneys for the ACLU have filed a Federal Discrimination Lawsuit that seeks to bar U.S. businesses from giving senior discounts. Karl Lennin, an ACLU attorney told BNN, "The senior discount is one of the worst examples of discrimination in America. It unfairly punishes younger Americans and gives preferential treatment to seniors for no other reason than their age. This is immoral and illegal. That is why we are calling on the courts to uphold current anti-discrimination laws and put an end to thi= s discriminatory practice." Patrick Henry, a spokesman for the U.S. Chamber of Retailers opposes the ACLU's lawsuit. Said Henry, "If there is something good happening in America, wait five minutes and the ACLU will file a lawsuit to stop it. Their lawsuit is not only frivolous, but shows just how mentally bent this organization has become." Henry defended the practice of giving seniors a discount by saying, "If a company wants to give a little perk to seniors by giving them a small discount, then that is showing respect to a group of people who deserve it. Hasn=92t the ACLU heard the saying =91Respect Your E= lders =92?" The ACLU=92s Karl Lennin disagrees. Asked Lennin, "Why should a person whos= e lived a few more miserable years than another person be allowed to pay $5.0= 0 for a meal that everyone else has to pay $6.00? That is nothing more than arbitrary preferential treatment. We don=92t let retailers give preferentia= l treatment to people because of their skin color, why should we let them do it because of a person=92s age? That=92s called discrimination and its agai= nst the law." =A9 2000 BNN (Bogus News Network - The Nation's Second Leading Source for Misinformation) http://www.bogusnews.com - You may Freely Distribute and/or read this story in its entirety on the air IF you clearly give credit for the story to bogusnews.com. Disclaimer: This story is totally false not one shred of it is true! It was created for entertainment purposes ONLY. Any resemblance to the truth is purely coincidental. http://www.acclaimedmedia.com/voafa/bnn/year2000/1220e.shtml Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: A knuckle sandwich for America? (fwd) Date: 19 Dec 2000 23:09:45 PST On Dec 19, Steve Moser wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Well here's an interesting take on Russia! Steve M. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_nyquist/20001218_xcjny_a_knuckle_.shtml A knuckle sandwich for America? © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com Get ready for a knuckle sandwich. Vladimir Putin is bringing together the old Soviet bloc into "one clenched fist." Together with China and India and Cuba and North Korea and Iran and Vietnam, etc., the Russians are openly saying they will put an end to America's global hegemony. But how will American hegemony be brought to an end? Well, in the first place, there is this growing anti-American alliance. Also, Russia has been involved for many years in secretive military preparations, the misuse of IMF funds, along with stealing and hacking. Hacking? Consider the fact that Bill Gates made a set of keys for the Kingdom of Internet -- a kingdom that increasingly looks down on every technical subsystem in the United States. Consider the fact that Russian hackers recently raided Mr. Gates' company, Microsoft, and stole the aforesaid keys. According to sources inside Microsoft's Redmond headquarters, the Russians penetrated Microsoft's defense system and stole Windows software and security codes. And what can be done with these security codes? Contrary to what you might think, Russian hackers are not petty criminals. They are soldiers in a war, interested in developing a sabotage capability against American banks, communications systems, the power grid and other basic utilities. Their objective is not to get rich by stealing software. Their objective is to defeat the United States by scrambling the brains of our computer subsystems. Now why would the Russians want to stop the motor of the world? Why would they contemplate a cyberattack on America? After all, where is the profit in bringing America to its knees? Russians inevitably want what Americans want. They want to wear blue jeans and eat burgers. They want Coca-Cola and a big American car with tail fins. Right? Think again, America. Don't believe everything you hear. Moscow has cleverly aimed your own capitalist preconceptions back at you. They have taken up your own slogans in order to put you to sleep. It is the ultimate form of flattery which they employ: "America is great, Russia has collapsed. Communism doesn't work." Behind the screen provided by this flattery, Russia's leaders can openly plot against us, talking to their allies about defeating the United States. Nonetheless, as this column pointed out on Thursday, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs simply says that Russia is not our enemy. He is more worried about China, which has but a fraction of Russia's power. Capitalism is victorious, we say. Socialism has failed and Russia wants to copy from our system. They want to copy, and they want to download off the Internet. Do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain. Any war preparations in Russia are merely the pathetic jerkings of a long dead corpse. But a reversal is underway. According to Gen. William E. Odom, writing in the Wall Street Journal on Dec. 13, "A pseudo-Soviet normalcy is emerging in Russia as glasnost declines and perestroika gives way to new stagnation." Yes, a pseudo-Soviet normalcy is emerging in Russia. But Odom is wrong to think this signifies a "new stagnation." No, Gen. Odom, the Russian military economy has been upgraded and modernized. To offer one example, consider the new submarine the Russians launched last week. But we are caught up in Russia's lies. We still believe that only 40 or 50 fighter-bombers are being built every year in Russia. How, then, do we analyze Russia's voracious and unexplained consumption of electricity and metals? How do we explain intelligence reports that say thousands of Russian fighter-bombers are under construction? There is something wrong and we have to wake up. We must stop flattering ourselves with the idea that our free market system works while Russian socialism has failed. The fact is, our economic system is no more capitalist than Russia's was communist. As Ludwig von Mises pointed out decades ago, a genuine socialist economy in Russia would have meant a reversion to the stone age. And as everyone knows, Russia put the first man in space and built the first intercontinental rockets. This is not evidence of what Mises called socialism. It is something altogether different which once tagged itself as socialist. The truth is, Russia's economy is a radically different type of capitalist economy, in which consumer production is limited so that military production can be perfected. What we have called socialism in Russia is merely a system for restricting consumption by forcibly diverting all the best brains and material into weapons. A couple of years ago I sat next to Col. Stanislav Lunev at a party. Lunev is a high ranking GRU defector from Russia. Lunev and I were listening to a retired politician praise Reagan and Thatcher for "defeating socialism," and for saving the free market. Col. Lunev was puzzled by this. He leaned over and whispered to me: "What is he talking about?" "I don't get it either," I replied. "The West is a socialist paradise," Lunev continued, whispering again into my ear. "Each according to his ability, each according to his need has been realized in America. But in Russia there is true rugged individualism, with every man for himself." Lunev's stunning reversal, where the West is Marxist and the East is following a primitive capitalist model, is not without merit. For example, most Russians grow their own food, engaging in a basic kind of capitalism that Americans do not. The state does not really take care of people in Russia. If you have ever been in a Russian hospital you would understand this perfectly. Because the state didn't really do much for the Russian people, it forced them to do things for themselves. The Russian black market, in reality, is a capitalist system unto itself. Perhaps it is more free-wheeling than anything that exists in the West. Meanwhile, in the West, corporations which resemble giant socialist collectives have combined with the welfare state to take care of the poor, the unemployed, and the unfortunate. Therefore, it could be said with a little humor, that the West is more Marxist than the East. Of course, we shouldn't go overboard with this. The lesson to be learned is that highly idealized categories -- like "capitalism" and "socialism" -- can be very misleading when applied to real life. Russia's so-called "collapse" is therefore an equivocal event, poorly understood in the West. Any assumption we make about their system, based on our own ideological prejudices or stereotypes, is bound to be wrong. Even more dangerous, we should not delude ourselves about the true nature of our own system -- which has become incredibly socialistic. The real competition between nations involves a game of power politics. To play this game you must set aside stereotypes and strive to understand what is really happening. In doing this, you must stick to facts and not theories. In this regard, the words of Russian President Vladimir Putin are not theories. They express his intentions and the direction of his policy. During Putin's visit to Cuba, the Russian president made the following statement. He said: "Russia intends to bridge the gap between the so-called golden billion and the rest of humanity -- and we will be solving this question by taking our very good ties with Cuba into account." The "golden billion" are those who live in the developed countries -- the so-called capitalist countries. On the other side stand the global have-nots -- the "rest of humanity," as Putin calls them. The bridging of the gap between the two sides, according to Putin, means the end of America's economic and military power. He is not talking about making the poor countries rich, but instead he is talking about making the rich countries poor. His language is clearly not that of a business man. It is the language of a commanding general. Talking of America's position as the world's leading country, Putin said, "Similar attempts at world domination were made numerous times throughout the course of history ... and it is well known how they all ended." Fidel Castro, the communist dictator of Cuba, agreed that the dominance of America and the "golden billion" had to end. It was, after all, a grave injustice to allow some people to live better than other people: " Even in the age of colonialism and slavery," said Castro, "the poor were not stolen from by the rich like this." Recently there have been cigarette ads in Moscow. A Russian brand, named Zolotaya Yava, says it is "striking back" at America. To visualize this process, the Statue of Liberty is depicted in a Russian fur hat. The Russians have hacked into Microsoft for a reason. They are lying about their own military capabilities and budget for a reason. Russia's president has flown to Cuba for a reason. It is time for us to set aside the stupid idea that the Cold War ever ended. It is time to get ready for a knuckle sandwich. J.R. Nyquist is a WorldNetDaily contributing editor and a renowned expert on America's fatal illusion of an international balance of power; diplomatic and Cold War history; the survivability of a thermonuclear world war; and is the author of "Origins of the Fourth World War." Each month Nyquist provides an exclusive in-depth report in WorldNetDaily's monthly magazine, WorldNet. Readers may subscribe to WorldNet through WND's online store. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Abolition of ALL prior presidential Executive Orders Petition (fwd) Date: 20 Dec 2000 22:17:43 PST On Dec 20, Joseph Eldred wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] I have created a petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/sphinx84/petition.html Please read it. If you agree, sign it and pass it along to others. Thanks and God Bless, ---------------------- God Bless America - Joe Eldred Web site: http://devoted.to/Godblessamerica Subscribe: http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/godblessamerica Articles: http://www.themestream.com/gspd_browse/author/view_author_info.gsp?auth_id=47733 Webcast: http://www.givemetalk.com/default.asp?ASPName=displaySeries.asp&ArgName=PreviewSeriesID&ArgVal=2068 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: America's Secret Holocaust (fwd) Date: 20 Dec 2000 22:18:49 PST On Dec 20, Connie............ wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ---- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 11:39 PM J.A.I.L. News Journal Los Angeles - December 19, 2000 ____________________________________________________ Listen to HotSeat4Judges daily on Internet Radio M-Th, 6-7 pm P.T. ____________________________________________________ For a beautiful navy blue T-shirt with "J.A.I.L." on the back and www.jail4judges.org large and visible over the pocket, imprinted in a bright yellow-gold lettering, send your check payable to J.A.I.L. for $11.95 plus $4 S&H. (Discounts on volume quantiti America's Secret Holocaust (Courtesy of our judicial system) The following letter to J.A.I.L. is heart rending and tragic, but shows how the American government identifies with other third-world nations in its conduct against its own people. I am an American Mother Seeking Refugee Status in Canada. These types of cases are being watched by the Refugee Board and the United Nations. There is a holocaust going on in America. Please help me and thousands of other Americans who had their children kidnapped by Child Protective Services. I have been wrongfully convicted and am being maliciously prosecuted by the FBI. The Violence Against Published Wednesday, September 13, 2000, in the San Jose Mercury News Boy allegedly abducted by mom returned to U.S. By the Mercury News A 6-year-old boy allegedly abducted from a Los Gatos care facility by his mother and taken to Canada in July was returned to the United States on Tuesday. Diane Booth of San Jose, who is charged with child abduction and unlawful flight to avoid prosecution, remains in Vancouver, British Columbia, after filing a petition for political asylum to delay her return to the United States. Booth's son had been a ward of the court and removed from her care and placed at Eastfield Ming Quong before the alleged abduction, according to Los Gatos police. Eastfield is a residential facility for troubled youngsters. Police said they do not know why Booth lost custody of her son, which they believe happened last January. The boy's father has not been involved in his life. Booth was apprehended on Sunday by Vancouver police after a routine traffic stop. A background check revealed that she was sought by the FBI. Police said Booth had been aided in her flight by family members from New York. A formal asylum hearing is pendin ***** Please see below*** This is Diane Booth, the woman the article refers to above. Please allow me to inform your audience of what Santa Clara County did to me and my family. Let this also serve as a warning to anyone with small children considering leaving their home state to My little boy, age 7, (not 6) was diagnosed with ADHD, and I insisted that the Sunnyvale School District comply with the Americans With Disabilities Act and make reasonable accommodations for my son. The school district retaliated against me, along with led care for injuries sustained at that facility. Santa Clara County added insult to injury by claiming that I was a victim of domestic violence. (The only violence was the police officer who beat me up and the facility who abused my son) They even had the audacity to file a child support enforcement claim against me as ransom. My refusal to testify against my boyfriend who was innocent angered the same DA who maliciously prosecuted me for a phony trumped-up charge of child endangerment. T I have refugee status here in Canada, a process which will take many months. In the meantime, I am out of prison and will work full time getting the word out to all the people of the world about the holocaust going right here in America. It is patently ridiculous that I should be charged with criminality for trying to claim and protect what is already mine!!! It is my child, my son, born of my womb, nurtured and raised into a fine young, intelligent boy, until the witches and demons of S themselves police, social workers and court officials. The FBI is wasting the taxpayers money to hunt down old ladies and their children, instead of going after real criminals (who run the County government). The FBI put $500,000 on my head. It is the right of Americans to know what is being done with their t * This is another example of what happens because of the judicial system not functioning as it is supposed to in holding an out of control government in check under Constitutional standards. As we have repeatedly said, every frustration of the people lead J.A.I.L. is an acronym for (Judicial Accountability Initiative Law) JAIL's very informative website is found at www.jail4judges.org JAIL proposes a unique new addition to our form of government. JAIL is powerful! JAIL is dynamic! JAIL is America's ONLY hope! JAIL's is spreading across America like a fast moving wildfire! JAIL is making inroads into Congress for federal accountability! JAIL may be supported at P.O. Box 207, N. Hollywood, CA 91603 To subscribe or be removed: add-remove-jail@mindspring.com All E-Groups are encouraged to sign on at jail4judges@egroups.com Open forum to make your voice heard JAIL-SoundOff@egroups.com "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." - Samuel Adams "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." -- Henry David Thoreau <>< [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: military Christmas card (fwd) Date: 21 Dec 2000 02:04:28 PST On Dec 20, joann wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] This site has a beautiful Christmas card for those in the service and are away from home. It shows an ornament with an American flag on it... some on your list might like to know about this special Christmas card http://www.americangreetings.com/greetingcard/pd/esearch.pd?L0=25&L1=101&L2= 248&L3=10894&L4=0&L5=0 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: BOY SCOUTS NEED YOUR HELP! (fwd) Date: 21 Dec 2000 12:38:15 PST On Dec 21, Charles Nawrocki wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] SENT FYI Please go to web page and sign petition. Thank you. Charles >From: WBracken1@aol.com >Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 09:07:30 EST >Subject: BOY SCOUTS NEED YOUR HELP! >To: WBracken1@aol.com >X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 123 > >WE CAN DO IT AGAIN FRIENDS, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO >GET HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF SIGNATURES...Bill >IT DOES TAKE US ALL THOUGH, TAKES TWO MINUTES? >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > >THE BOY SCOUTS ARE UNDER ATTACK FROM ALL SIDES! > >******URGENT PETITION DRIVE NOW UNDER WAY!!!******** > >CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO AND TO SIGN THE PETITION: >http://www.grassfire.net/index1.asp?CID=2&PID=316901 >(AOL Users: >Petition ) >(if clicking on the link doesn't take you to our site, just > copy the link & paste it into your browser address line.) > >Major corporations, local United Way chapters and many >cities and states are withdrawing hundreds of thousands >of dollars in funding and support from the Scouts and >banning Scouts from using public property. Just days ago, >the Miami Herald reported that the Scouts are "under siege" >after the city of Ft. Lauderdale became the latest to deny >funding to the Scouts. Even the federal government as >joined the attack! > >And it's all because the Scouts have refused to cave in >to the pressure of "politically correct" groups who despise >the fact that the Scouts stand for faith and morality! > >THE SCOUTS NEED OUR HELP! > >Grassfire.net is launching a petition drive to rally >tens of thousands of concerned citizens to support the >Scouts and send a strong message to the "politically correct" >forces that these attacks must end. > >TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE! Several anti-Scout measures are >pending right now. > >CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO AND TO SIGN THE PETITION: >http://www.grassfire.net/index1.asp?CID=2&PID=316901 >(AOL Users: >Petition ) > >A friend of yours has already signed the petition and >has forwarded this message to you. Now, it's your turn >to take a stand and watch your impact grow with >Grassfire.net's breakthrough tracking system that makes >on-line petitions really work! > >Signing the petition supporting the Scouts takes less >than 5 minutes -- but that's when the fun begins! > >After signing the petition, you'll immediately receive >a special "GRASSFIRE LINK" message in your e-mail box. >By forwarding this "GRASSFIRE LINK" message to your friends, >you'll be starting your own grassfire on the Internet! > >What's more, we'll let you know just how fast and far >your impact spreads! Our breakthrough e-mail interface >will give you REAL FEEDBACK and REAL OPPORTUNITY to >make a difference. Grassfire.net is unlike anything you've >seen on the Net -- and YOU are the key! > >So sign the petition today! > >CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO AND TO SIGN THE PETITION: >http://www.grassfire.net/index1.asp?CID=2&PID=316901 >(AOL Users: >Petition ) > >Anti-Scout forces have amassed over 55,000 petitions >and the pressure is mounting. We want to overwhelmingly >surpass that total and we can do it with your help! >Already, people from all 50 states have signed >the petition and the grassfire is spreading rapidly! >But you MUST click on the above link to sign the >petition and start your very own grassfire in support >of the Boy Scouts on the World Wide Web! > >Thanks, > >Grassfire.net > >CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO AND TO SIGN THE PETITION: >http://www.grassfire.net/index1.asp?CID=2&PID=316901 >(AOL Users: >Petition ) >(if clicking on the link doesn't take you to our site, just > copy the link & paste it into your browser address line.) > >------------------------ >A Christian Patriot > Hosea 4:6 > >PS Additional Information: The Olympic Committee still >refuses to issue a statement stating simply and clearly that: >The Boy Scouts, in their uniforms, will be allowed to >participate in the Olympics, as they have in past >Olympics on American soil. >Call the Salt Lake Olympic Committee at 801-212-2002. >Their fax number is 801-364-7644. >Or call the U.S. Olympics, National Headquarters, 719-632-5551 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Jesse's_War_Plan? (fwd) Date: 21 Dec 2000 16:35:55 PST On Dec 21, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Poe's Notepad: Jesse's War Plan http://frontpagemag.com/editors_note/en12-18-00.htm Richard Poe's Notepad The Private Ryan Syndrome The Time for Talk Is Over Poe's Notepad Archive Jesse Jackson Jesse's War Plan FrontPageMagazine.com | December 18, 2000 email this article to a friend Black Spark, White Fire Did African Explorers Civilize Ancient Europe? By Richard Poe Prima Publishing Paperback, 576 Pages List Price: $22.95 Amazon Price: $18.36 LAST WEEK, Jesse Jackson called for a "civil rights explosion." "We will take to the streets right now, we will delegitimize Bush, discredit him, do whatever it takes, but never accept him," cried Jackson outside the Supreme Court. By Thursday, the spin doctors were trying to soften Jackson's image, focusing on his conciliatory phone call to the President-elect. But make no mistake. The promised "civil rights explosion" is in the works, starting with mass protests scheduled for January 15. Bone-weary from 35 days of election hell, the last thing most Americans want is an "explosion." But we're going to get it, whether we like it or not. The radical Left is on the march. Jackson is a mere foot soldier in its ranks. His incendiary rhetoric is part of the plan. In 1990, I interviewed former '60s radical Jerry Rubin for Success magazine. He explained how he and his fellow revolutionaries had used the power of "myth" to tear America apart. "The first part of creating a mass movement is the mythic idea." Rubin explained. "We put the myth out there that America was in chaos. America was not in chaos. "When 100,000 people marched on the Pentagon in 1967, we put out the myth that America was divided in two. America was not divided in two. "But we put the myth out there and what happened, by '69, 1970, America was divided in two." In other words: Keep promoting the myth, and eventually it will come true. Go Postal View Comments on this article Make Comments on this article Jackson is doing that now. He is promoting the myth that Bush stole the election, that black voters were disenfranchised, and that America is on the brink of revolution. Black Republican Congressman J.C. Watts Jr. disagrees. "When all these charges first hit, I did my own investigation," he told the Washington Times. Watts found that people of all races had been stopped at polling places for routine checks, not just blacks. "The police officers were just doing their job," he says. Even Gore's claim to have won the popular vote is suspect. Reports from around the country - largely ignored by major media - suggest that massive tampering may have inflated the Democrat vote. Jackson is no doubt aware of all this. But, when making revolution, it is the myth, not the truth, that counts. In his autobiography, Radical Son, David Horowitz recalls a series of discussions with Tom Hayden in which the Chicago Seven conspirator revealed his motive for inciting riots during the 1968 Democratic Convention. Horowitz paraphrases Hayden: "If people's heads got cracked by police, he said. it `radicalized them.' The trick was to maneuver the idealistic and unsuspecting into situations that would achieve the result." In short, the Chicago Seven had deliberately lured their followers into situations where they could be hurt or killed. The bloodier things got, the better for the cause. Reared by Communist parents, Horowitz recognized the principle behind Hayden's words. He writes: "It was the extrapolation of a familiar radical idea: `The worse, the better.'" The movers and shakers behind the current election crisis appear to be following a similar agenda. On the night that Gore retracted his concession, Newsweek pundit and White House myrmidon Jonathan Alter spilled the beans on the Left's destabilization plan. The recounts would probably collapse into chaos, Alter predicted in a televised discussion. Each side would accuse the other of cheating. But that was okay. After weeks of recounting, Alter explained, there "would be a lot of pressure to say. let's end this thing. You get a series of irregularities all over the state of Florida, pretty soon nobody can figure out who really won. What happens then?" Well, what happens, Alter seemed to imply, is that people become so disgusted that they are ready to accept any solution, no matter how extreme or un-Constitutional. Tom Hayden would have said they become "radicalized." That Friday, as if on cue, Hillary Clinton announced: "It's time to do away with the Electoral College and move to the popular election of our Presidents." She was further refining the "mythic idea." As Hillary framed it, the problem was not just one bad election. The problem was the Constitution itself. The work of the Founding Fathers would have to be undone. Tighten your seatbelts, America. The Left means to shake this country to its foundations. Just as in Chicago 1968, a lot of innocent people may get hurt. But, for Jesse, Hillary and the rest of the "worse-is-better" crowd, America's pain will be their ecstasy. Richard Poe is editor of FrontPageMagazine.com and SlapHillary.com. He is the author of Black Spark, White Fire and other books. For more information about Poe and his work, visit RichardPoe.com. E-mail him here. View Comments on this article Make Comments on this article Email this article to a friend E N D [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: A Libertarian Christmas (fwd) Date: 23 Dec 2000 16:55:07 PST On Dec 23, Jim Moore wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Hope no one is offended by any of this, but if you are blame Neal Boortz, it's from his web page. Enjoy a good laugh! A LIBERTARIAN CHRISTMAS One of my incredible listeners sent me this bit that had been posted on an Internet comment board. Enjoy Republicans help the poor during the holidays by sending $50 to the Salvation Army. Democrats help the poor by giving $50, one buck at a time, to panhandlers on the street. Libertarians help the poor by hiring them to string up lights for $50. Democrats get back at the Republicans on their Christmas list by giving them fruitcakes. Republicans re-wrap them and send them to in-laws. Libertarians sell the fruitcakes to the Democrats and Republicans. Also ... Libertarian are fruitcakes. When toasting the holidays, Republicans ask for eggnog or mulled wine. Democrats ask for a "Bud." Libertarians brew their own something. When not in stores, Republicans shop from a catalog. Democrats watch for "incredible TV offers" on late night television. Libertarians bitch about Cheaperthandirt site being slow. Democrats do much of their shopping at Target and Wal-Mart. So do Republicans, but they don't admit it. Libertarians shop for commodities futures. Republican parents have no problem buying toy guns for their kids. Democrats refuse to do so. That is why their kids pretend to shoot each other with dolls. Libertarians dislike toy guns. Their kids have to settle for the real thing. Republicans spends hundreds of dollars and hours of work decorating the yard with outdoor lights and Christmas displays. Democrats save their time and money, and drive around at night to look at *other* people's lights. Libertarians turn on perimeter lights and make the guard dogs howl carols. Democrats' favorite Christmas movie is "Miracle on 34th Street." Republicans' favorite Christmas movie is "It's a Wonderful Life." Right-Wing Republicans' favorite Christmas movie is "Die Hard." Libertarians' favorite Christmas movie is also "Die Hard" and they criticize the actors' gun handling. Republicans always take the price tag off expensive gifts before wrapping. Democrats also remove price tags off pricey gifts ... and reposition them to make sure they are seen. Libertarians make sure the shipping charges are obvious, too. Republicans wear wide red ties and green sports jackets during the festive season. Democrats do too, all year round. Libertarians wear green and red cammies to blend in with the Christmas tree. Most Republicans try, at least once, enclose indulgent, maudlin form letters about their families in their Christmas cards. Public ridicule from Democrats usually discourages them from doing it again. Libertarians re-read Thomas Jefferson's Christmas cards. Democrats' favorite Christmas carol is "Deck the Halls." Young Democrats' favorite Christmas carol is "Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer." Republicans' favorite Christmas carol is "White Christmas." Young Republicans' favorite Christmas carol is "White Christmas." Libertarians favorite "Christmas Carol" was written by Dickens. Cheapskate Republicans buy an artificial Christmas tree. Tight-fisted Democrats buy a real tree, but they wait until the week before Christmas when the lots lower their prices. Green Democrats buy a real tree with roots, and then replant it after New Years. Libertarians camp out in an evergreen forest to celebrate. Republicans see nothing wrong with letting their children play "Cowboys and Indians." Democrats don't either, as long as the Indians win. Libertarians prefer that kids play "Humans and JBTs" Republicans first began thinking like Republicans when they stopped believing in Santa Claus. Democrats became Democrats because they never stopped believing in Santa Claus. Libertarians pay Santa well to give him incentive to come again. Democrat men like to watch football while the women fix holiday meals. On this, Republicans are in full agreement. Libertarian men prefer watching women to watching football. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [GunRightsConstitution] gun owner denied insurance coverage (fwd) Date: 23 Dec 2000 16:53:37 PST On Dec 23, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Prudential denies coverage to gun owner Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2000 2:24 PM Prudential denies coverage to gun owner News/Current Events Breaking News News Source: WorldNetDaily.com Published: Saturday, December 23, 2000 Author: Jon E. Dougherty Posted on 12/23/2000 00:23:59 PST by JohnHuang2 The Prudential Insurance Company has denied homeowner's coverage to a Connecticut police officer because of his gun collection, which includes -- the company said -- firearms that make insuring the household too risky. According to Frank Del Bruno, he and his girlfriend recently bought a condo and, after "shopping around" for homeowner's insurance, settled on Prudential because of the lower premium. During the course of taking out the policy, Del Bruno said he mentioned to the Prudential agent that he had guns. The agent asked him to send the company a list of the guns he owned, along with their serial numbers. Del Bruno said he complied but, a few weeks later, he received a cancellation notice from Prudential, citing the types and number of guns he owned as the reason the company decided to drop his coverage. According to a Dec. 14 letter to Del Bruno, signed by Dennis H. Brookover of Prudential, Del Bruno's current homeowner policy -- which took effect Nov. 28 -- is now set to expire Jan. 19, 2001. "We consider many factors when determining whether or not an individual is eligible for insurance," Brookover said in his letter. "While reviewing your application, I noted the following circumstance(s). There is a measurable increase in liability exp Specifically, Del Bruno said Prudential officials told him a Mossberg 500 shotgun he owned was instrumental in disqualifying his coverage -- even though the woman at Prudential he spoke with didn't know anything about that particular firearm. Del Bruno then asked to speak with the woman's supervisor, who told him that Prudential's regulations have to comply with mandates issued by Connecticut and, consequently, "they couldn't budge." Del Bruno said the Prudential supervisor -- whom he did not name -- told him the state and Prudential feel insurance liabilities increase when insured persons own semi-automatic weapons. WorldNetDaily asked Del Bruno why he thought Prudential may have singled him out. "The gave no specifics," he replied. Repeated attempts to solicit comments from Prudential officials were unsuccessful. Ironically, Brookover -- in his letter -- said Del Bruno "may be eligible for insurance through the Connecticut Insurance Placement Facility," which is administered by the state of Connecticut's Insurance Department. Del Bruno's case mimics an earlier incident involving firearms and a major U.S. financial corporation. In February, WorldNetDaily reported that Citibank had adopted a new policy prohibiting its banking branches from "maintaining accounts for businesses that deal in weapons." However, by March 16, due to intense pressure brought to bear by concerned citizens, Citibank reversed its policy and began taking accounts from firearms-related businesses. Related stories: Citibank forces gun withdrawal Citibank confirms anti-gun stance Big guns must be OK with Citibank Citibank kills firearms policy Jon E. Dougherty is a staff reporter for WorldNetDaily. E-mail to a friend Printer-friendly version [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Christmas (fwd) Date: 25 Dec 2000 10:20:11 PST On Dec 25, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz 'I'll be home for Christmas, you can plan on me' And now the bustling streets and malls fall strangely quiet. In many a home the living room rests ankle-deep in an effluvia of ribbons and paper and bows, while in the background someone has left the TV running -- Alastair Sim throws open his window on a bright and shining world for the 47th time, and asks the lad in the street what day this is. It's Christmas morning, sir. And yes, we certainly do know the shop on the corner with the big, fat goose still hanging in the window. The bleatings about "commercialization" seem to have faded a bit of late. (Perhaps it's finally sunk into the public consciousness that our mutual funds stay up only so long as the merchants do some business.) Since Christians didn't exactly invent the date -- merely superimposing their own celebration onto a Winter Solstice week of feasting and merriment observed by the Romans and the pagan tribes of a thousand years -- it does seem less than generous to protest whatever traditions others may cherish at this time of year. Even if that does include animated Santas sledding across the snow on highly unlikely rotary-blade razors. It even occurs to me that the ancient and modern holidays aren't such a bad fit: The superstitious ancients lighted bonfires and hauled the sacred mistletoe and evergreens indoors out of fear that ghosts of the dead might walk abroad on the longest and darkest night of the year. Yet still they looked on the bright side, celebrating the fact that the lengthening of each day from this point promised the vital return of spring. Modern Christians, too, celebrate on this date the arrival of a new hope to lead mankind from the darkness. Here is a day for friends and family, for again celebrating our freedoms and the bounty they create. For make no mistake, the notion that armed men can enforce some uniform brand of "compassion" by mandating the redistribution from those who have earned "too much" to those with less, has been tried now for most of a century across half the globe ... and has universally collapsed in a pitiful heap of poverty, devastation, denial, and finger-pointing. Only by allowing men and women to profit from the fruits of their labors can a society be truly moral and just. And only by thus allowing each soul to remain a free agent is true, voluntary kindness and charity made possible. Old-fashioned charity passing away? In fact, with various "well-meaning" governments funding their own "compassionate" demonstrations by delicately filching more than 40 percent from the average paycheck, the wonder is that so much selfless charity still persists. Back in 1996, Fortune magazine reported the nation's top 25 philanthropists alone gave away $1.5 billion to charitable causes. And the magazine found most of the most generous Americans were self-made; only four inherited their wealth. Drug legalization activist George Soros donated $350 million that year, followed by retired grocery and drug store magnate L.S. Skaggs, who gave away $155 million. Computer whiz Bill Gates, chairman of Microsoft, ranked third on Fortune's list with $135 million in donations that year -- back before the federal government decided to try and bring him down for selling a product too many people want. Heartless capitalists, every one. Here is a day to thank our lucky stars we live in a land where economic freedom has created so much affordable bounty that -- in the vast majority of American homes this day -- we find ourselves surrounded, in the dead of winter, far from any fertile field, with more delicious plenty than is humanly possible to consume. There's a tendency to think today's crises must be more complicated and dispiriting than those of simpler days gone by. But in fact, most of today's doubt and confusion pales when we consider how the future hung in the balance for a generation of cold and lonely sailors and G.I.s and Marines, stretched thin on freedom's line, in the desperate Christmas of 1943. Listen to the radio. When were those songs written? Isn't it interesting, how many come down to us from those desperate days? Even today, have we no moment of gratitude to spare for the young men and women who stand a frozen vigil on some lonely shore this Christmas Day, wishing they, too, could be home sipping cider by the fire? It was for such as they that Hugh Martin and Ralph Blane wrote, in the far darker days of 1943: "Have yourself a merry little Christmas, let your heart be light. From now on, our troubles will be out of sight. "Have yourself a merry little Christmas, make the Yuletide gay. From now on, our troubles will be miles away. ... "Through the years we all will be together, if the fates allow. Hang a shining star upon the highest bough ... and have yourself a merry little Christmas, now. It was for such as they that Kim Gannon and Walter Kent wrote, in 1943: "I'll be home for Christmas, you can plan on me. Please have snow and mistletoe, and presents on the tree. "Christmas Eve will find me, where the lovelight gleams. I'll be home for Christmas ... if only in my dreams." So Merry Christmas to all. May your days be cheery and bright. And may all your Christmases ... be white. (Irving Berlin: 1942). Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, and editor of Financial Privacy Report (952-895-8757). His book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available at 1-800-244-2224; or via web site http://www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926) "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken * * * To subscribe, send a message to vinsends-request@ezlink.com, from your NEW address, including the word "subscribe" (with no quotation marks) in the "Subject" line. All I ask of electronic subscribers is that they not RE-forward my columns until on or after the embargo date which appears at the top of each, and that (should they then choose to do so) they copy the columns in their entirety, preserving the original attribution. The Vinsends list is maintained by Alan Wendt in Colorado, who may be reached directly at alan@ezlink.com. The web sites for the Suprynowicz column are at http://www.infomagic.com/liberty/vinyard.htm, and http://www.nguworld.com/vindex. The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Income Tax Fraud Date: 26 Dec 2000 16:58:02 PST For those interested in Tax issues, you should check out: http://www.taxableincome.net/ -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: T'was the night before Christmas (fwd) Date: 27 Dec 2000 11:06:19 PST On Dec 27, Jim Zoes wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] http://www.calnra.org/atfchristmas.html CalNRA.org "Get the News to Protect Your Freedom" A BATF Christmas by Andy Barniskis Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the house, Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. The front door was locked, and the deadbolt was thrown, All was safe and secure, in our castle of stone. The children were nestled all snug in their beds, While visions of Pokemon, danced in their heads. And mom in her t-shirt, and me in my flannel, Were watching intently, the Discovery channel. When out on the lawn, there arose such a clatter, I sprang from my bed to see what was the matter. Away to the window, I flew like a flash, I fumbled as always with the vinyl-clad sash. The moonlight was faint on my manicured lawn, As I peered through the gloom, and I stifled a yawn. When what to my wondering eyes should appear, But a vanload of men in full military gear. The young ninja-clad driver was lively, and quick. He stepped on to the curb, with his door-bashing stick. With the speed of a cobra, his agents, they came, As he whistled and shouted, and called them by name. "Now Chalmers and Davidson, you take the back, And when I give the signal, commence the attack. To the top of the porch, men, stay close to the wall, Now BASH away! BASH away! BASH away all!" And then they gained entry, a matter of course. The doorframe was splintered and shattered by force. Then up to the housetop, his agents they flew, In the steady advance, of a well-practiced crew. And soon I heard men at the top of the stair, That's when my thoughts turned to the kids sleeping there. So I turned and jumped over my bed in a bound, As the door was crashed in, I heard "down on the ground". He was dressed all in black from his head to his toe. And he wore a broad mask, so his face didn't show. Then he lined up the sights of the gun he possessed, Which was clearly a chore in that black armored vest. His eyes-how they twinkled, that's all I could tell, Of the person who faced me and issued a yell. "To the ground" he repeated, with hasty precision, And the bead he had drawn, didn't leave for decision. So silently raging, to carpet I fell, From my wife there was issued a terrified yell. While they tore up my bedroom, and left it a wreck, And I scarcely could breathe for the boot on my neck. From afar in the house I could hear their ransacking, And as meek as a church mouse a "Daddy, what's happening". And with that still small voice, and her cry of alarm, I resolved a great price, should they bring her to harm. It was then that they read from the warrant they held, And I struggled to listen, I broke free and yelled. "You idiot bastards, the problem is plain, This is Worthington Terrace, not Worthington Lane." Well he spoke not a word, but reviewed paperwork. Then he looked at his underling, called him a jerk. And then quick as they came, his accomplices arose, "My mistake", were his words "didn't mean to impose". Then he sprang to his van, to his team gave a whistle, And away they all flew, like the down from a thistle. And I heard him exclaim as they drove out of sight, "Good thing no one was hurt, and to all a good night". [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fw: Kids and guns (fwd) Date: 28 Dec 2000 13:55:07 PST On Dec 28, Kevin M. McGehee wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 1:33 PM Kids and Guns by Robert A. Waters - Web Published: 12.27.00 http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/waters/edrw122700.htm Give a kid a gun and he suddenly becomes a monster, shooting up schools and blowing away anyone whom he perceives has wronged him. Right? That's what the mainstream media would have you think. While such incidences do occur on rare occasions, many other times kids use guns to save lives. But these stories don't fit the media stereotype and therefore get no national exposure. On Sunday afternoon, March 19, 1985, Jacqueline Roland, a mother of two, heard a noise outside her home near Bethel, Oklahoma. As she went to investigate, she told her six-year-old son Jimmy to get the family gun. In addition to Jimmy, four other children were in the home at the time. As Mrs. Roland stepped outside, a masked man grabbed her and placed a knife to her throat. Jimmy Roland, following his mother's instructions, walked outside with a .22-caliber rifle. Seeing the masked man holding his mother, the youngster aimed the gun at the assailant's head and cried, "Turn my mommy loose!" "Put the gun down!" the masked man snapped. Instead, Jimmy Roland cocked it. According to Pottawotomie County Sheriff Paul Abel, "the man apparently thought the boy was going to shoot him. He loosened his grip on Mrs. Roland and she broke away." The assailant fled but was soon captured, along with two accomplices. All were lifelong criminals and predators. Sheriff Abel had nothing but praise for six-year-old Jimmy Roland. "In all likelihood," the sheriff said, "he saved every one of those people's lives...They're just average people who taught their child safety with guns from the time they were real little, because there are guns in that house as there are in most of the houses around here." In a barrio near Compton, California, eighteen miles south of Los Angeles, Hispanics have to fight every day just to survive. According to an Associated Press article, on March 30, 1999, at around noon, two robbers entered the 99 Cents Plus Mini Market. The sixty-two-year-old owner, a grandmother whose name was not released, was working the counter along with a teenage employee. Her twelve-year-old grandson was also in the store. One of the robbers pointed a "machine pistol" at the owner and demanded money from the cash drawer. The teenage employee knocked the gun away, and began struggling with the robber. As they were fighting, Dennis Smith, the second robber, began beating the owner. He knocked the grandmother to the floor and continued to punch her while she was down. Her twelve-year-old grandson grabbed a handgun and fired several shots, hitting Smith four times. He died a few hours later. The other robber escaped. The twelve-year-old was not charged. Juan Zamora, who owns a shop next door, summed up the desperation of those trying to earn an honest living in the barrio. "Always they have troubles because everybody try to steal," he said. "The police come very late. They come after one hour, after three hours, after four hours. Everybody is still afraid. Nobody protects us." Adam Cummins, 38, of Wichita, Kansas, was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic. He could function normally at times, then he would snap and become violent. Because of his mental illness, Kathryn Adams, his mother, had raised Cummins' fifteen-year-old daughter. On May 17, 2000, at 10:00 p.m., a visibly agitated Cummins appeared at Adams' home. Having first-hand knowledge of his violent tendencies, she locked the front door and refused to let him inside. Undeterred, he kicked in the door. As the crazed man launched a vicious assault on the terrified woman, Adams yelled for her grand-daughter to "get the gun." In the meantime, Cummins hit Adams several times with a claw hammer, fracturing her skull. As the assault continued, the fifteen-year-old ran to a nightstand in her grandmothers' upstairs bedroom and pulled out a handgun. By this time, Cummins had bludgeoned his mother into unconsciousness. Then he started up the stairs. His daughter met him at the top of the stairs. She fired one shot, striking Cummins in the abdomen, ending the assault. He died a few minutes later. According to a story in the Wichita Eagle, Kathryn Adams remained in critical condition with a fractured skull. Jim McNiece, principal of Northeast Magnet High School, where the girl attended, stated that the school had provided counseling for the traumatized teen. "She has a lot of support from family and friends at school," he said. "She's a nice kid, and is worried about her grandmother. That's where all the attention of the family is focused." Police said that over a long period, Cummins had had many dealings with law enforcement officials and mental health agencies. He had threatened police officers, mental health workers, and his ex-wife (the mother of the fifteen-year-old). For years he had fought with his wife and mother for custody of the girl. The family had tried numerous times to have him institutionalized. On the day he died, he'd called his ex-wife and threatened to kill her. Police credited the fifteen-year-old girl with using appropriate force to stop a vicious assault. Kids and guns. Did anyone see these cases on the national news shows? Permission to reprint/republish granted, as long as you include the name of our site, the author, and our URL. www.SierraTimes.com All Sierra Times news reports, and all editorials are © 2000 SierraTimes.com (unless otherwise noted) -- Kort E Patterson http://www.overalltech.net/ http://www.hevanet.com/kort/ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: The Fable of the Ducks and Hens (fwd) Date: 28 Dec 2000 13:54:13 PST On Dec 28, Connie............ wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 5:05 AM ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 10:25 AM THE FABLE OF THE DUCKS AND HENS by George Lincoln Rockwell Many, many years ago, When animals could speak. A wondrous thing the ducks befell, Their tale is quite unique. Down by a pond dwelt all these ducks, Ten thousand at the least. Their duckish joys were undisturbed By any man or any beast. One day down near the entrance gate, There was an awful din. A hundred hens all out of breath Were begging to come in. "Oh let us in!" these poor birds cried, "Before we do expire!" "Tis only by the merest inch That we escaped the fire!" Their feathers burned, their combs a droop, They were the saddest sight. They'd run a hundred miles or more, All day and then all night. "Come, come in!" the ducks all quacked, "For you our hearts do bleed! We'll share our happy lot with you, Just tell us what you need!" And so these poor bedraggled hens Amongst the ducks moved in. For, after all, the ducks declared, "We're sisters 'neath the skin." Before too many months had passed, The hens were good as new. They sent for all their rooster friends, And these were welcomed too. o please their host, these chickens tried To waddle and to quack. To simulate the duckish ways They quickly learned the knack. This pleased the flock of ducks because It gratified their pride. .....But hear my tale and learn how they Got taken for a ride. The ducks, it seemed, spent all their time In fixing up their place, In growing food and building homes And cleaning every space. They asked the hens what they would do To earn their daily bread. "We'll teach and write and entertain, And buy and sell," they said. And so these hens began to teach The baby ducks and chicks. They traded food and eggs and things, With many clever tricks. They wrote great books & put on shows, Of genius they'd no lack. It wasn't long till chickens owned The Duckville Daily Quack. One day a mother duck who took Her ducklings to the lake, Was flabbergasted when one said, "A swim I will not take!" "Why ducklings always swim!" she gasped, "It's what you're built to do! Like bunnies hop, and crickets chirp, And cows most always moo!" "Your just old fashioned, a fuddy duck, That stuff is all old hat!" "It's wrong for birds to swim; ...besides, It's too cold on my little pratt!" "Oh fie!" the mother duck exclaimed, "You're talking like a fool!" Up quacked the other ducks and said, "He's right! Ms. Hen taught us that in school!" "Such things must stop!" the mother cried, "Those hens can't teach such lies!" "For sheer ingratitude and nerve, I'm sure this takes the prize!" .....But she was wrong, for even then The hens did thump the tub. Demanding they be let into, The Duckville Swimming Club. "But you don't swim!" the ducks all cried, To join, why should you care?" "That's not the point!" the hens replied, "To exclude us isn't fair!" The younger ducks, who'd been to school, Agreed right there and then, "To keep them out is bigotry!" "T'would just be ANTI-HEN...!" Outnumbered by the younger ducks, The old ducks soon did loose; They agreed to let the hens all in, If they would pay the dues. That night the Duckville Daily Quack Contained this banner spread: "Reactionary Ducks Are Licked! DUCKVILLE MOVES AHEAD!" Down at the Duckville Gaiety, The younger set laughed with glee, At cracks about "Old Fuddy' Ducks" In burlesque repartee. Next day the hens were at the club, A petition they'd sent around. They objected to the swimming fund With fury and with sound. "You use our dues to fix the pond, to keep it neat and trim." "And this is wrong," they said, "Because You know we do not swim!" "God help us!" cried a wise old duck, "These chickens have gone mad!" "We'll take this to the court, by George, And justice will be had!" But when they went up to the judge, Imagine their dismay! A CHICKEN-JUDGE decreed that they Had a heavy fine to pay! "Minorities must have their rights!" The judge declared right then. "To use hen's dues to fix the pond Is very ANTI-HEN...!" Once more the Duckville Daily Quack Emblazoned across the page: "Old Foggy Ducks Refuse to See The Great New Coming Age!" In Duckville church on Sunday morn, The preacher spoke these words, "Discrimination's got to stop! Remember we're all birds!" The wisest duck in all the town Sat down in black despair. "I'll write a book," he thought, and then "This madness I will bare!" "Let Swimmers Swim, let Hoppers Hop, Let Each One Go His Way. Let No One Coerce a Fellow Bird!" Was what he had to say. "Twas wrong to force the hens to swim So here's the problem's crux; It's just as bad for hens to try To chicken-ize our ducks!" "I can't print that," the printer said, "Twill put me in a mess!" "My shop is mortgaged to the hens, The chickens own my press!" This worried duck then tried to warn His friends by speech and pen. Young ducks fresh from school just jeered "He's one of those a vicious Anti-Hens...!" Now up the stream a little way Was Gooseville, on the lake. The hens had come to Gooseville too, But the Geese were more awake. When the hens began to spoil the young And Gooseville's laws to flout, The Geese Rose Up in Righteous Wrath And Simply Threw Them Out...!!! Of course, you know where they all ran; On Duckville they converged. "We've got to take these refugees." Was all Duckville's hens had urged. The Duckville Daily Quack declared: "These Geese Will Stop at Naught! "They Plan to Conquer all the World!" "Atrocities They've Wrought!" "That's right!" the young ducks agreed, "We'll help our fellow birds! These Geese have plans to conquer us! .....We've read the Quack's own words!" They let the hens from Gooseville in, The whole bedraggled pack. ..... And every hen took up a job on the Duckville Daily Quack!! When the Duckville mayor's term was up, The Quack put up it's Duck; A vain and stupid duck was he, A veritable ... cluck! But when he praised the wild young ducks, And cursed the evil Geese, The Quack declared he was "all wise," His praise would never cease. The hens chipped in to help this cluck Give grain away for free. The old ducks sadly shook their heads, The writing they could see. And sure enough, this stupid duck, He was elected mayor. >From this point on, The Duckville ducks, They never had a prayer. The Mayor said, "Gooseville must GO!" "We'll wipe them off the map!" While Duckville slept, the scheming hens For Gooseville set the trap. They called the Geese by filthy names; They filled their pond with sticks. They helped the weasels catch the Geese, and other hennish tricks. The Geese got mad and threw the sticks, "It's WAR!" the Quack announced. "We ducks must Fight those evil Geese," "Till they've been soundly trounced!" The ducks (who knew not of the tricks Indulged in by the mayor), Were filled with patriotic zeal, And pitched right in for fair! So when the ducks whipped the Geese, The Mayor called "Retreat!!" "Our HENVILLE friends should really take Gooseville's big main street!" The hens were back in Gooseville now; They starved and beat the Geese. They prayed for "Peace" - but organized The "HENVILLE ARMED POLICE!!!" They drained the Geese's swimming pond, They "De-Goose-ified" their schools; They wrung the Gooseville mayor's neck On lately made-up rules. They formed a council of the hens; "UNITED BIRDS" the name. The other birds who joined the thing Did not perceive the game. No sooner had they set this up, Than they announced their hennish plan: To seize up Swanville as a home For all their hennish clan. They took a vote among the hens, And everyone approved! "Swanville was for HENS!" they said, "Way back, before we moved," And so they kicked the swans all out, With Duckville's help and power And Duckville couldn't understand Why swans, on them turned sour. By this time, Duckville was a mess, The young ducks had all gone mad. They stole and laughed at Truth and Law; They went completely "bad." The hens were selling Loco Weed in every nasty den. But ducks who dared to mention this, Were labeled "ANTI-HEN...!" The hens all preached of "Tolerance," They invoked the "Golden Rule," But they subsidized the indigent, The greedy and the fool. At last the very dumbest ducks Began to smell a rat. "This mayor is no good!" they cried, "And we will soon fix that!" But the hens had planned for even this A candidate they had, Whom even wise old ducks believed Just never could be bad. This Hen-tool duck whipped the Geese, A soldier Duck was he. Although the hens had set him up, The Ducks all thought him free. This Hen-tool got elected, Through ignorance and greed, Through hennish lies in Press & Speech, Through Bribes of "Chicken Feed." The hens now kicked the ducks around Without a blush of shame, Until the mayor ran the town In nothing else but name. They pumped the Duck's pond all dry; They taught the ducks to crow, While duckish numbers dwindled, The hens began to grow. The hens stirred up the happy crows >From out of the piney wood, To Fight to Mix and Marry ducks in the name of "Brotherhood." Things got so bad that fifty ducks, Who knew the days gone by; Took up their wives and children And decided that they'd fly. They flew through storms and tempest; They froze, and many died. But on they drove, until, at last, A lovely lake they spied. They settle down exhausted, But soon went straight to work; To build and clear and cultivate, No danger did they shirk. Now after many years of toil, This little band had grown. The fields around were full of grain >From seeds that they had sown. The first ducks were long since dead; Their struggles long had ceased. Through hard work and suffering, Their joys had been increased. One day down near the entrance gate There was an awful din; A hundred hens, all out of breath, Were begging to come in. "Oh, let us in!" these poor birds cried, "Before we do expire!" "Tis only by the merest inch...." "... ... ... ..." .....This epic really has no end, Because No matter how you fight em, Those HENS'll show up Every Time. And So, ...Ad Infinitum ...!!! eGroups Sponsor _________________________________________________________ "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.....!" ---- Hosea 4:6 or "There ain't no knowledge in the SECOND kick from a mule!" ---- APFN ADVISOR American Patriot Friends Network (APFN) http://www.apfn.org APFN EMAIL LIST SUBSCRIBE/UNSCBSCRIBE IN SUBJECT LINE TO: apfn@apfn.org APFN EGroups: http://www.egroups.com/subscribe.cgi/apfn APFN CONTENTS: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/apfncont.htm APFN MSG BOARD: http://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb1075995 Public Education System vs Christian Home Schooling Home School News, Info. & Links http://www.ordination.org/homeschool.htm [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Junk Mail Get-Back (fwd) Date: 29 Dec 2000 16:40:13 PST On Dec 29, BOBWORN@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] BCC: BOB WORN This may not stop junk mail, but it would get someone's attention !! Subject: what a great idea! Here's the deal: Tired of getting all those Pre-approved letters in the mail for everything from credit cards to 2nd Mortgages, and crap like that? If the answer is, "Yes!". Read on. If "no," read on anyway. Well, most if not all of those letters come with a postage "PREPAID"envelope. So why not get rid of some of your other junk mail and put it in these cool little envelopes! If you didn't get anything else that day, then just send them their application back (TOTALLY BLANK)! Just make sure your name isn't on anything you send them. Heck, you can send it back empty if you want. Keep 'em guessing that way. Let's turn this into a chain letter. Eventually, The banks will begin getting all their garbage back in the mail. Let's let them know what its like to get junk mail, and best of all they're paying for it! Twice! Only in America! Send this to a friend or two or three.....or ten.....or twenty!!! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: SRA - Legal Scholars Say Govt Regs as a "Cause". (fwd) Date: 29 Dec 2000 16:48:22 PST On Dec 29, Brad3000 wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FYI - This is very interesting.... read! -- Brad/RKBA-Unity! Legal Scholars Say Government Regs. Led to Boston Shootings By Sierra Times - Posted: 12.29.00 http://www.sierratimes.com/arvc122900.htm Government s Warrantless Search & Attempted Warrantless Seizure Leads to Shooting Rampage; Boston Again the Scene of Tax Revolt; Legal Scholar Says Government Evasion of Constitutional Require- ments for Tax Searches and Seizures Led to Killings Reports indicate an employee of a Boston Internet consulting firm shot and killed seven co-workers who apparently participated in plans to honor warrantless government searches for and seizures of the employee s earnings, accrued and future. The law, constitutional and statutory, requires a Fourth Amendment warrant, executive or judicial, for tax searches and seizures, but the IRS has routinely operated without them, provoking an outcry, producing litigation, and fomenting office stress that has now resulted in violence. "Without a valid warrant, no legally valid proof of a tax debt exists," said Virginia L. Cropsey, J.D., a graduate of Wayne State University School of Law and the University of Michigan, and author of an Internet newsletter and new website that expose the legal insufficiency of IRS notices of levy. "The Fourth Amendment accords protection to a person s "effects," Cropsey says, "and that includes a person s accounts receivable." The Fourth Amendment was inspired by the 1761 speech in Boston against the writs of assistance by James Otis, an attorney engaged by the merchants of Boston. British issuance of the writs of assistance, which are similar to the current IRS "process" led to the Revolutionary War. A young John Adams, later second President of the United States, heard the Otis speech and was inspired to draft a provision, Article XIV, for the 1780 Massachusetts Declaration of Rights, which later became the basic language for the Fourth Amendment, Cropsey says. At the time of the construction of the Bill of Rights, Richard Henry Lee, Senator from Virginia, and an ancestor of Robert E. Lee, saw to it the word "effects" rather than "possessions" was used in the Fourth Amendment, so that accounts receivable, which would include the apparent shooter, Michael McDermott s earnings, have Fourth Amendment protection. This means, and the 4th and 5th Amendment pre-judgment seizure case law shows, that a warrant is required, according to Cropsey. Additionally, wages are special property for purposes of pre-judgment seizure under the Supreme Court decision in Sniadach v. Family Finance Corp. You can t seize property for taxes in this country pre- judgment without a sworn statement, says Cropsey. "Certainly the government should have to swear the debt is owed and demonstrate probable cause for these searches and seizures. The IRS has no business writing your employer about you and interfering with your employment relations without proper authorization." Recently Cropsey showed that the Fourth Amendment s "no warrants" clause was intended by the Framers to require at a minimum, an executive branch warrant for tax seizures. I call it all about adjectives, said Cropsey. I read the case law more carefully than most attorneys, and noted that the Supreme Court said in its 1977 opinion in GM Leasing that a judicial warrant was necessary for entry into private premises for tax seizures. I knew from the plain language of the Fourth Amendment, and from research I did on the 1762 case of Entick v. Carrington & Three Other King s Messengers, a British sedition case, and from other research, that at least an executive branch warrant was necessary for other tax seizures. I m a bit like the kid in 6th Sense I don t see dead people, but I see something the others didn t due to my careful reading of the Fourth Amendment s 'no warrants' clause I see executive branch warrants." These executive branch warrants were held to be required for federal tax seizures. Pre-1954 case law exposed in a 1998 opinion in Williams v. Boulder Dam Credit Union by Clark County Nevada Magistrate Victor Miller held the executive branch warrant is required, Cropsey says. Cases concerning the issue of the warrant requirement are just beginning to make their way through the courts, she says. In order to avoid a Fourth Amendment test, the government does not cross the line and technically seize the property; it has not been using the language obfuscated case law says is required for seizure "is seized and levied upon," according to Cropsey, who says she spent over 1000 hours researching the issue and who has 60 pages briefed on the subject in the Michigan Court of Appeals, as well as on the question of whether private sector employers are required to withhold wages without a signed wage withholding order in effect. "They used quite a few standard legal tricks. It was a textbook case of stealthy encroachment." The levy situation leaves banks and employers subject to suit on contracts, and without a defense that they honored a levy under 26 U.S.C. 6331 & 6332 since no levy occurs, according to Cropsey. Cropsey s briefs show the pre-1954 case law was continued in effect by Congress under the 1954 Code. Since then, a consumer snatch-back line of cases in the Supreme Court makes clear that the Due Process clause of the Fifth Amendment requires sworn statements for pre-judgment seizure. These standards also apply to federal tax seizures according to the Supreme Court, Cropsey says. Cropsey says her research also shows future earnings aren t property under state law, and therefore under 26 U.S.C. Sec. 6331, the federal tax levy statute, so the IRS cannot reach future earnings with current levy process as they currently do. "The situation is despicable; every member of Congress, every President in modern times, bears responsibility for allowing this situation to occur," she says, and encourages citizens to write Congress and the President and demand the IRS obtain the warrants the Constitution requires for tax searches and seizures. The warrant is critical to show all the necessary procedures and laws have been complied with to allow the government to seize the property, she says. "One judge stated he d never seen anything like what my research exposes in 23 years on the bench." "The IRS can t get a warrant for these tax seizures because no competent authority can swear the tax debt is due and owing. The Constitution prohibits direct taxes without apportionment. The government is avoiding a test of the Constitutionality of the income tax by not technically seizing the property. It s a double-end run of the Constitution, one the framers Fourth Amendment language was written to prevent, and one which must end immediately," Cropsey said. "The IRS has engaged in a calculated campaign to intimidate attorneys, legislators and others who should have reported this situation into silence the situation is grim." The article submitted by Red Hen Resources - Troy, Michigan [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Government Causes California Energy Crisis (fwd) Date: 30 Dec 2000 12:09:53 PST On Dec 29, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] From the Home of Rich & Peggy Martin Grand Prairie, TX 75050 RichSlick@excite.com It's nice to be important, but it's important to be nice. _______________________________________________ INTRODUCTORY COMMENTARY In this part of the country, we haven't heard much about the energy crisis California is experiencing. We in Texas have another problem. The Fedl govt wants to outlaw construction and establish the infamous double nickle to "clean up" our air. It seems we have too many refineries in Texas. Rich Martin Editor of Slick -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Government Causes California Energy Crisis From: Howard Rothenburg "We'd rather have brown-outs than people-outs!" That line was delivered about 20 years ago by Tom Hayden, who at the time was Jane Fonda's husband and a member of the California Legislature, representing the "People's Republic of Santa Monica." Though his consituents were city people, they kept him in Sacramento to spout his Luddite, back-to-the-land politics until he was removed from office by term limits. He and his cronies kept power plants from being built, while the population of their state climbed, all the while spouting lines such as that, to the delight of the environmentalists. Now those short-sighted legislators are looking at those never-really-expected brown-outs, and in true collectivist fashion, they are demanding that we in the rest of the West give them OUR power. They are guilt-tripping those of us in neighboring states, so that we will use less electricity in the evening. We are expected to be "neighborly" and let our homes get cold on zero- degree nights, so that the people in Los Angeles won't advance on Sacramento with torches and pitchforks. The "beautiful people" in California are the perfect example of irrationality. The same people who demanded long waiting periods for firearm purchases then turned around and screamed at the gunshop folks, when told that the waiting period doesn't include exemptions for movie stars, even during riots. However, despite their anti-technology stance, of course, they exempt themselves. A drive past "Commie Tommy's" place shows no lack of lights or electronic alarms, and I doubt that he has cut the cords to the computer, the HDTV nor DVD player. Likewise, the Nefarians demand that we junk "inefficient" older and larger cars and SUVs, yet I haven't seen them giving up limos or those private jets which burn as much fuel taxiing to the runway as my Camaro uses driving from here to Los Angeles. Guilt is the favorite weapon of the Nefarians. They used guilt about inner-city school quality to force a million school kids onto buses across town in the 1960s, and guilt about the Antarctic "ozone hole" to force a halt to sales of Freon in the Northern Hemisphere (despite a complete lack of proof that the two are related in any way). Sometimes they go to ridiculous extreme in their attempts to manipulate, such as when several entertainers vowed to move to Canada if Duhhh-bya were to become President. Of course, they are abandoning their promises, but they truly did expect that we would all vote for Prince Al, rather than risk having them leave. I'm reminded of Jerry Brown's plaintive bleat that "The people didn't vote the way we told them to," following a 1974 initiative fight. Alec -- or a thousand Alecs -- is not worth more than a single Tere or a Toni or a John, people who work to support their families and will never own a Learjet. Perhaps these smug, self-important elitists should take the pizzas to Bosnia themselves . . .then stay there. That would improve both countries. It would also give them something to do other than trying to make the rest of us feel guilty for having had the foresight to build powerplants. But then, to a Nefarian, ANY foresight is to be condemned. When an individual or community prepares for the future, that makes them more difficult to bring under control. Two decades ago, during the "survivalist boom," anyone with more than a couple of days' food on the shelf was painted as a paranoiac and lampooned in the media and theater. Then came the "Y2K" panic, and suddenly it was acceptable to throw a couple of extra cans of corn into the shopping cart, until the crisis evaporated. Now that things are back to (ab)normal, there is subtle pressure to draw down the reserves again. This winter, we have this new campaign to convince us that the people who have brought the threat of dark, cold nights to Fresno are not actually responsible for their actions. It is our GREED, you see. Our selfish desire to use Utah electricity in Utah is to blame for the current situation (no pun intended) facing the Golden State, not Californians' willingness to let the environmentalists push them back to the Dark Ages. In other words, the needs of those who refused to prepare outweigh the needs of those who did, courtesy of Sacramento, who has called in the marker they issued on November 7th. The little pig who built his house of brick is to be forced to give it up to the one who built with straw, with an order by the Clintoon Administration. It would be one thing if we were doing this for the good of our neighbors on the Coast, to help them through a crisis, but the majority of the population (and power usage) is in the warm southern half of the state, where lack of electricity isn't likely to result in blocks of ice with people inside them. No, the true casualty of of rolling blackouts would be the Nanny State, the belief that Sacramento or Washington will kiss it and make it all better. Some of my readers in California may believe that I am attacking them. In truth, I am simply trying to provide a little perspective. It is not necessary to embrace the "Corporate World" to have light, nor to war against it in the name of ecology. The true ecologist sees the whole picture, of which mankind is a part, and tries to find the best set of trade-offs. It is the "envinronmentalist" who sees Man as being at war with Nature. To these people, other people are a blight which must be kept out of the forest ("No Motor Vehicles"), and considers periodic disastrous floods to be a good price to pay for saving the clapper rail's habitat. After all, the farmers who lost their homes and livelihoods only have one vote each, and are outnumbered by the Beautiful People in Santa Monica and Sausalito. The big question is whether the power problems will turn on a light in the minds of a few million Western voters. _________________________________________________________________________ Keith R. Wood is keeping a light in the window for those who would like to respond to his columns, either directly (caa@bctv.com) or through the Mailbag. www.SierraTimes.com Cut out the middlemen. Send donations to: Boys Scouts of America National HQ 1329 Walnut Hill Ln. Irving, TX 75162 http://www.SaveOurScouts.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [our-constitution] Million Marxist March (fwd) Date: 30 Dec 2000 13:44:29 PST On Dec 30, Charles Nawrocki wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] This is a very interesting questioner, please read and re-post to your friends. >Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2000 09:49:30 -0500 >Reply-To: our-constitution@egroups.com >Subject: [our-constitution] Million Marxist March > >http:// >www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=911 > > >A quiz for Million Mom marchers to consider. >OK now, no cheating > >1. Ted Kennedy, Charles Schumer and Barbara Boxer strongly denounce private >gun ownership. Their bodyguards; however, carry: > >A. Toy guns with trigger locks >B. Glocks, and Berettas >C. Sheilds and swords >D. Slingshots >E. Very heavy purses > >2. You and your baby daughter are awakened in the middle of the night by >your estranged, abusive ex-husband. Although you have a restraining order >against him, he is drunk and beats down your front door with a crowbar >screaming, "If I can't have you, nobody can!" You should: > >A. Call Barbara Boxer. >B. Call 911, and tell them that they should arrive within 30 seconds. >C. Threaten legal action. >D. Grab a ping-pong paddle. >E. Reason with him (maybe he was an abused child). > >3. Since 1987, 34 states have enacted concealed carry laws. Violent crime >decreased in these states and the anticipated "Dodge City" mayhem never >materialized. Even critics were surprised. Concealed carry succeeded >because: > >A. Sunspot activity decreased after 1987. >B. Trigger locks rendered guns inoperative and therefore safe. >C. Sarah Brady scared the crooks away. >D. A healing wave of pacifism swept over the hearts of criminals in these 34 >states. >E. Janet Reno said that crime should stop. > >Schools, churches, subways, and restaurants have often been assaulted, but >rarely military bases, police stations, or shooting clubs. The reason for >this is because: > >A. The targets aren't sitting or kneeling. >B. VA benefits are lost if you shoot a soldier. >C. You can't enter an army base without bumper stickers. >D. Schools don't threaten felons with detention hall. >E. All of the above. > >5. Logic, reason, and common sense: > >A. Are irrelevant if they contradict your feelings. >B. Should not apply to firearms. >C. Defy opinion polls. >D. Pale beside hysteria, fear, and political ambition. >E. All of the above. > > >6. Every dictator always disarms his victims, before beginning to >annihilate freedom loving people. The reason for this is because: > >A. Guns commit crimes. >B. Guns cause accidents >C. Guns cause suicides >D. Making sure that her family is defenseless is the only way that a >mother can demonstrate love for her children >E. All of the [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: {NewsUCanUse} VIN: Dec. 31 column (fwd) Date: 31 Dec 2000 08:38:21 PST On Dec 30, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz The Guild of Regulators is alarmed Predictably, those who distrust the discipline of the market (consumers simply stop patronizing shoddy products and unreliable firms), and instead demand massive government control of how businesses operate, are shocked -- shocked! -- to learn that president-elect Bush actually intends to move forward with a review of excessive or counterproductive federal rules. Never mind that Mr. Bush forthrightly campaigned on a platform which called for a review of such regulations, and the often absurd costs they impose on American businesses in relation to the consumer benefits (if any) derived. "We intend to submit regulations imposed during the previous administration to a strict and thorough review," says Juleanna Glover Weiss, a spokeswoman for Vice President-elect Dick Cheney, who's in charge of transition planning. "They will probably take a really harsh look at anything that happened in the last three months of the Clinton administration," predicts Joan Claybrook, who headed the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration under President Carter and now works for Ralph Nader's Public Citizen. Well, good. The Constitution invests the law-making power solely in Congress. Yet President Clinton and his regulatory henchmen have followed -- in many cases even outdone -- their predecessors in spinning vast entangling webs of new regulation (here in the West, even ruling huge swathes of land off limits for public use with a wave of the magic pen) without so much as telling Congress in advance, let alone submitting these ideas for their legislative debate and approval. In Texas, Gov. Bush managed to simplify regulations on industry, reform the practice of tort law, trim taxes, and generally treat businesses as if they were innocent till proven guilty. ... Surely nothing there we'd want to import to the nation's capital! These cries of alarm are largely cynical attempts to embolden the reactionary shock troops of the regulatory state, of course. By starting their ululations loud and shrill and early -- like geese rising up to their full height and flapping their wings and hissing aggressively -- they hope to frighten Mr. Bush's most timid or casual supporters from acting too boldly. In fact, Gov. Bush is far from the kind of radical anarchist or libertarian who's likely to shut down so many Washington bureaucracies that the trains will be running overtime, carrying newly unemployed bureaucrats and their steamer trunks home from Washington City (more's the pity.) But if the new administration takes a skeptical look at the costs and benefits of proposed workplace "ergonomics" regulations; so-called "affirmative action" racial hiring quotas for federal contractors; proposals to effectively ban popular new sport utility vehicles through Draconian new corporate average fuel-economy standards -- even the question of whether Americans should be "allowed" to install full-sized home toilet tanks -- such an application of common sense is long past due. Most significantly, it appears the Bush administration hopes to maintain the hands-off posture toward electronic commerce which was one of the best things Bill Clinton never did. Indications are that Mr. Bush hopes to refrain from attempting to tax this newest and fastest-growing new economic sector (it would be nearly impossible, anyway) -- and even to allow Americans to encrypt their private electronic correspondence as they see fit, without demanding that the FBI be given the electronic equivalent of the power to steam open every letter in the U.S. mail. Mr. Bush and his appointees should resist the screeching of this tiny special-interest chorus, and get on with the commonsense agenda endorsed last month by the residents of 30 states. It's a modest enough agenda -- actually, hosing out every bureaucratic ant farm not authorized by the Constitution would be more in keeping with the oath of office Mr. Bush proposes to take on Jan. 20. And wouldn't it be a shame if these protesters -- having driven themselves hoarse shouting their objections to the very modest plans of Messrs. Bush and Cheney -- were to find themselves beset with laryngitis by the time someone finally gets around to proposing that? Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, and editor of Financial Privacy Report (952-895-8757.) His book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available by dialing 1-800-244-2224; or via web site http://www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926) "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken * * * To subscribe, send a message to vinsends-request@ezlink.com, from your NEW address, including the word "subscribe" (with no quotation marks) in the "Subject" line. All I ask of electronic subscribers is that they not RE-forward my columns until on or after the embargo date which appears at the top of each, and that (should they then choose to do so) they copy the columns in their entirety, preserving the original attribution. The Vinsends list is maintained by Alan Wendt in Colorado, who may be reached directly at alan@ezlink.com. The web sites for the Suprynowicz column are at http://www.infomagic.com/liberty/vinyard.htm, and http://www.nguworld.com/vindex. The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! -