From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: FCC Public File Auto-FAQ Date: 01 Jan 2001 00:59:17 PST This "FAQ" is auto-posted once a month via cron triggered script, and may be triggered off by hand from time to time in between if the info is requested by someone, such as when the House recently voted down the AW Ban and the Media threw a hissy fit. The purpose of this FAQ is to inform people what they can do about Media generated lies and misinformation. While the FCC only handles Broadcast Media, (TV and Radio), some of these techniques will work for magazines and newspapers too. If I've missed something, or you find errors, let me know and I'll add/fix it. 1.a. Send letters of complaint to the Station Manager every time it happens with all the time, details, other info, and your complaint(s). 1.b. Send an additional copy for their FCC (Federal Communications Commission) Public file. 1.c. Send an additional copy to the FCC itself, in case they don't put it in their Public file. 2.a. Send a letter of complaint to their Station Owner as per above, with copies as per above (1.b and 1.c). 3. Send copies of their replies to you along with yours to them to their FCC Public file, so that it gets nice and fat, again, with copies to the FCC itself. 4. If you can afford it, send all corespondence by Certified Mail with Return Receipt Requested. Send a copy of the Return Receipt with everything that goes to the FCC itself, so that they will have additional evidence if the Station is cheating on their Public File. 5.a. Go to the Public Library and look up "Standard Rate and Data Services" (SRDS) "Directory of National Advertisers." It is found in many major Libraries (in the business/reference stacks), and lists EVERY current advertiser, who the players are at both the company and advertising agency(s), and the appropriate telephone and fax (and probably E-Mail by now) addresses. If your Library doesn't have it, it can be requested. Otherwise you can watch their commercials for a few days to a week, listing all their advertisers. There are other references that have the addresses for the nation's business headquarters too. look them all up and pass the addresses and phone/FAX numbers etc., around so that everyone can bitch to the sponsors. IF enough people do that, it'll get back to the Station. Tell them if the Station continues their nastiness you'll _consider_ changing to brand(X), (otherwise they'll just write you off as a loss). 5.b. The above, (5.a.), can be a lot easier and less time consuming if you're dealing with a newspaper's or a magazine's ads, as they are right in front of you for the listing. 6. If they put on something good or even just more reasonable, call and compliment them on it, but do _not_ send any kudos to their FCC file, or write to them about it. That way they have to keep it up and hope, as there is nothing good in the file or in writing that they can show the FCC to justify their Station's License. 7. Federal Communications Commission, Complaints and Compliance Division Room 6218, 2025 M Street NW Washington, D.C. 20554 FAX: 202-653-9659 FCC Attn: Edythe Wise -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | The _only_important_difference_ between Nazi-ism, Fascism, weapon in every | Communism, Communitarianism, Socialism and (Neo-)Liberalism hand = Freedom | is the _spelling_, and that the last group hasn't got the on every side! | Collective brains to figure it out. -- Bill Vance - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larry ball Subject: RKBA Is Further Demonized Date: 01 Jan 2001 09:48:08 -0600 About.COM's most recent newsletter has an article concerning workplace violence. A list of warning signs from a Satore Township was included. I have copied it below. Take a look, you guess it, a "fascination with weapons" is something that should concern all employees. Happy New Year Larry Ball lball@inetnebr.com Indicators for Managers In addition to the behavioral warning signs which are so often associated with a potentially violent employee, there are other indicators available to supervisors and managers. These indicators are oriented to a manager=92s view of employee behavior and may be more easily utilized than some of the specific behavioral warning signs discussed previously. An employee exhibiting these indicators is not necessarily an individual who is prone to violence; however, violence is always a possibility when these warning signs are evident. These indicators are typical of an employee in difficulty; they strongly suggest that some kind of immediate intervention is needed: 1. Excessive tardiness or absences. Beyond simply missing work, an employee may also reduce his or her workday by leaving early, departing the work site without authorization, or presenting numerous excuses for otherwise shortening the workday. This is a particularly significant indicator if it occurs in an individual who has been typically prompt and committed to a full work day. 2. Increased need for supervision. An employee typically requires less supervision as he or she becomes more proficient at their work. An employee who exhibits an increased need for supervision, or with whom the supervisor must spend an inordinate amount of time, may be an individual who is signaling a need for help. Managers should be alert to such a change and consider offering professional intervention if the situation so warrants. 3. Reduced productivity. If a previously efficient and productive employee experiences a sudden or sustained drop in performance, there is reason for concern. This is a classic warning sign of dissatisfaction and the manager should meet with the employee to determine a mutually beneficial course of action. 4. Inconsistency. As in the case of reduced productivity, an employee exhibiting inconsistent work habits may be in need of intervention. Employees are typically quite consistent in their work habits and, should this change, the manager has reason to suspect the individual is in need of assistance. 5. Strained workplace relationships. Many of the classic behavioral warning signs may be identified under this category. Should a worker begin to display disruptive behavior in the workplace it is imperative that the manager intervene as quickly as possible to diffuse a potentially violent situation. This indicator should be taken quite seriously. A worker who exhibits disruptive behavior is in need of immediate counseling and, if appropriate, professional employee assistance. 6. Inability to concentrate. This may indicate a worker who is distracted and in trouble. Employee counseling is indicated. 7. Violation of safety procedures. This behavior may be due to carelessness, insufficient training or stress. If an employee who has traditionally adhered to safety procedures is suddenly involved in accidents or safety violations, stress may be indicated. This may be a serious situation which requires the intervention of professional employee assistance personnel. Stress is a significant contributor to workplace violence; it is of sufficient magnitude that the topic has been given special attention elsewhere in this study. 8. Changes in health or hygiene. An employee who suddenly disregards personal health or grooming may be signaling for help. 9. Unusual behavior. As mentioned previously, a sustained change in behavior is often an indication of an employee in difficulty. Common sense is the best judge of this issue. Workers are typically quite familiar with the personalities of their peers and are often quick to notice significant changes. The work environment should be managed in such a way as to ensure trust and open communication so that workers undergoing a difficult period may be offered prompt assistance. 10. Fascination with weapons. This is a classic behavioral warning sign that should be easily recognized by coworkers and managers. 11. Substance abuse. This is such a prevalent problem in the American workplace that it has been given separate consideration in this study. It is important that every organization have some methodology in place to identify and assist an employee who has become the victim of drug or alcohol abuse. 12. Stress. As discussed elsewhere in this study, stress is a serious and widespread problem in the workplace. As with substance abuse, an organization should have procedures in place to identify workers who are victims of stress and provide an effective intervention program. The implementation of stress mitigation and personal wellness programs should also be considered by employers. 13. Excuses and blaming. This is a classic behavioral warning sign that is often easy to identify but just as often ignored by managers. A worker who engages in this behavior is often signaling for assistance, requires counseling and, possibly, professional intervention. 14. Depression. Depression is a common ailment in America but not all individuals suffering from depression are prone to violence. If, however, the depression is evident for a sustained period of time, professional intervention is recommended because a violent outcome is always a possibility. Many of these indicators for managers are alternative ways of interpreting the key behavioral warning signs associated with potential violence. They are almost always warning signs of an employee who requires help. An astute manager will often be quite aware of these indicators through experience and instinct. These tools--experience and instinct--are valuable components of good management and should never be ignored. Any employee who exhibits one or more of these indicators must be assumed to be in need of assistance or intervention. Managers must be alert to these indirect pleas for help and provide a positive, timely response to ensure a safe and secure work environment. New Arenas for Violence is now available from the Greenwood Publishing Group. This is a definitive study of workplace violence that includes causal factors, intervention, prevention, and case studies of the issue. Read the synopsis. (ISBN 0-275-9 5652-0) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larry ball Subject: The Demonization of Gun Owners Date: 01 Jan 2001 10:07:42 -0600 The quote that I forwarded in the previous post was from a place called Satore Township. There was were a couple of boxes at the bottom, one for corresponding with a person and the other the Home Page of Satore Township. It is phony. When you go the township home page you get the "person" who explains that the township page has been discontinued. The person is an author and is promoting books. Satore Township is an "East Bay" political subdivision in California. Well that explains it. Here is the address http://management.about.com/smallbusiness/management/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.svn.net/mikekell/v4.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: SRA - New UN Watch Site. (fwd) Date: 01 Jan 2001 13:14:39 PST On Dec 31, Brad3000 wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FYI - Interesting site. (thx Gran EZ) -- Brad/RKBA-Unity! What is UNWatch.com? This website is designed for students doing research on the United Nations. We will gather a number of "pro and con" links to make research into both sides of several critical issues much easier. Essays will be collected to give a wide range of opinions that the student may see that there are at least two, if not several sides to every question. If you need help, ask the web- master, and we will attempt to either answer questions, or refer you to web- sites which can. Enjoy your research http://www.unwatch.com/head.html [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Just One More Reason For "SHOOT-TO-KILL" (fwd) Date: 01 Jan 2001 16:58:09 PST On Jan 1, BOBWORN@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] The Looting Of America How over 200 Civil Asset Forfeiture laws enable police to confiscate your home, bank accounts & business without trial. By Jarret Wollstein http://www.escapeartist.com 12-30-00 'A police dog scratched at your luggage, so we're confiscating your life savings and you'll never get it back.' Police stopped 49-year-old Ethel Hylton at Houston's Hobby Airport and told her she was under arrest because a drug dog had scratched at her luggage. Agents searched her bags and strip-searched her, but they found no drugs. They did find $39,110 in cash, money she had received from an insurance settlement and her life savings; accumulated through over 20 years of work as a hotel housekeeper and hospital janitor. Ethel Hylton completely documented where she got the money and was never charged with a crime. But the police kept her money anyway. Nearly four years later, she is still trying to get her money back. Ethel Hylton is just one of a large and growing list of Americans - now numbering in the hundreds of thousands - who have been victimized by civil asset forfeiture. Under civil asset forfeiture, every-thing you own can be legally taken away even if you are never convicted of a crime. Suspicion of offenses which, if proven in court, might result in a $200 fine or probation, are being used to justify seizure of tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of property. Totally innocent Americans are losing their cars, homes and businesses, based on the claims of anonymous informants that illegal transactions took place on their property. Once property is seized, it is virtually impossible to get it back. Property is now being seized in every state and from every social group. Seizures include pocket money confiscated from public-housing residents in Florida; cars taken away from men suspected of soliciting prostitutes in Oregon; and homes taken away from ordinary, middle class Americans whose teenage children are accused of selling a few joints of marijuana. No person and no property is immune from seizure. You could be the next victim. Here are some examples: In Washington, D.C. police stop black men on the streets in poor areas of the city, and "routinely confiscate small amounts of cash and jewelry". Most confiscated property is not even recorded by police departments. "Resident Ben Davis calls it 'robbery with a badge'." [USA Today, 5/18/92] In Iowa, "a woman accused of shoplifting a $25 sweater had her $18,000 car - specially equipped for her handicapped daughter - seized as the 'getaway vehicle'." [USA Today, 5/18/92] Detroit drug police raided a grocery store, but failed to find any drugs. After drug dogs reacted to three $1.00 bills in the cash register, the police seized $4,384 from cash registers and the store safe. According to the Pittsburgh Press, over 92% of all cash in circulation in the U.S. now shows some drug residue. In Monmouth, New Jersey, Dr. David Disbrow was accused of practicing psychiatry without a license. His crime was providing counselling services from a spare bedroom in his mother's house. Counselling does not require a license in New Jersey. That didn't stop police from seizing virtually everything of value from his mother's home, totalling over $60,000. The forfeiture squad confiscated furniture, carpets, paintings, and even personal photographs. Kathy and Mark Schrama were arrested just before Christmas 1990 at their home in New Jersey. Kathy was charged with taking $500 worth of UPS packages from neighbors' porches. Mark was charged with receiving stolen goods. If found guilty, they might have paid a small fine and received probation. The day after their arrest, their house, cars and furniture were seized. Based upon mere accusation, $150,000 in property was confiscated, without trial or indictment. Police even took their clothing, eyeglasses, and Christmas presents for their 10-year-old son. The incentive for government agencies to expand forfeiture is enormous. Agencies can easily seize prop-erty and they usually keep what they take. According to the Pittsburgh Press, 80% of seizure victims are never even charged with a crime. Law enforcement agencies often keep the best seized cars, watches and TVs for their "departments", and sell the rest. How extensive are seizures in America today? The Washington Post has reported that the U.S. Marshals Service alone had an inventory of over $1.4 billion in seized assets, including over 30,000 cars, boats, homes and businesses. Federal and state agencies seizing property now include the FBI, the DEA, the U.S. Marshals Service, the Coast Guard, the IRS, local police, highway patrol, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, FDA, and the Bureau of Land Management. Asset forfeiture is a growth industry. Seizures have increased from $27 million in 1986, to over $644 million in 1991 to over $2 billion today. Civil asset forfeiture defines a new standard of justice in America; or more precisely, a new standard of injustice. Under civil seizure, property, not an individual is charged with an offense. Even if you are a totally innocent owner, the government can still confiscate your ''guilty'' property. If government agents seize your property under civil asset forfeiture, you can forget about being innocent until proven guilty, due process of law, the right to an attorney, or even the right to trial. All of those rights only exist if you are charged with a criminal offense; that is, with an offense which could result in your imprisonment. If you (or your property) are accused of a civil offense (offenses which could not result in your imprisonment), the Supreme Count has ruled that you have no presumption of innocence, no right to an attorney, and no protection from double jeopardy. Seizure occurs when government takes away your property. Forfeiture is when legal title is permanently transferred to the state. To get seized property returned, you have to fight the full resources of your state or federal government; sometimes both! You have to prove your property's "innocence" by documenting how you earned every cent used to pay for it. You have to prove that neither you nor any ofyour family members ever committed an illegal act involving the property. To get a trial, you have to post a non-refundable "bond" of 10% of the value of your property. You have to pay attorney fees - ranging from $5,000 to over $100,000 - out of your own pocket. Money you pay your attorney is also subject to seizure (either before or after the trial) if the government alleges that those funds were "tainted". And you may be forced to go through trial after trial, because under civil seizure the Constitutional protection against "double jeopardy" doesn't apply. Once your property is seized, expect to spend years fighting government agencies and expect to be impoverished by legal fees - with no guarantee of winning - while the government keeps your car, home and bank account. In fact, in a recent Supreme Court decision (Bennis v. Michigan), the Court said explicitly that innocent owners can be deprived of their property if it's used to facilitate a crime, even without the owner's knowledge or consent. That means you can now lose your home or business because of the action of employees, relatives, or guests, over whom you have absolutely no control. Police and prosecutors have incentive to confiscate as much as possible. Not only do police and prosecutors have the power to seize anything you own on the slightest pretext, they also have the incentive. The dirty little secret of the forfeiture racket is that police, prosecutors and judges can benefit personally by stealing your property. Brenda Grantland - America's leading asset forfeiture defense attorney - gives these examples of government greed in her book Your House Is Under Arrest: Suffolk County, NY. District Attorney James M. Catterton drives around in a BMW 735I that was seized from an alleged drug dealer. He spent $3,412 from the forfeiture fund for mechanical and body work, including $75 for pin-striping. Warren County, NJ. The assistant chief prosecutor drives a confiscated yellow Corvette. Little Compton, RI. The seven member police force received $3.8 million from the federal forfeiture fund, and spent it on such things as a new 23-foot boat with trailer, and new Pontiac Firebirds. But that's just the tip of the iceberg. The head of one Los Angeles police forfeiture squad claims his group personally pocketed over $60 million in seized property. Why do our courts tolerate these outrageous legalized thefts? Because they get their cut. It's completely legal for confiscated property to be used by police, prosecutors and judges, so long as it's for official business. In 1996, a federal district court even ruled that police can personally receive 25% of the value of any confiscated home, car, or business. Some police will kill you for your property In Malibu, California, park police tried repeatedly to buy the home and land of 61-year-old, retired rancher Don Scott, which was next to national parkland. Scott refused. On the morning of October 2, 1992, a task force of 26 LA county sheriffs, DEA agents and other cops broke into Scott's living room. When he heard his wife, Frances, scream, he came out of his upstairs bedroom with a gun over his head. Police yelled at him to lower his gun. He did, and they shot him dead. Police claimed to be searching for marijuana which they never found. Ventura County DA Michael Bradbury concluded that the raid was "motivated at least in part, by a desire to seize and forfeit the ranch for the government . . . [The] search warrant became Donald Scott's death warrant." _____ Jarret B. Wollstein works as an independent writer and direct-mail marketing specialist. He is a founder and director of the International Society for Individual Liberty (ISIL), an international human-rights and free-market networking organization with members in over eighty countries. His ISIL issue papers have sold over two million copies and have been translated into six languages. Mr. Wollstein is the author of 300 articles and audio-tapes and four books, including Society Without Coercion (1969) and The Rage of lslam (1992). He is currently completing his fifth book-The Clinton Health Care Disaster. He is also a former editor of the Individualist magazine and the Financial Privacy Report. Mr. Wollstein's essay appeared as a two-part series in the January and February 1994 issues of Freedom Daily, published by The Future of Freedom Foundation - For more information on Forfeiture in the USA, view the Forfeiture Endangers American Rights (FEAR) website: http://www.fear.org [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Feds announce peopleless areas plan (fwd) Date: 01 Jan 2001 18:20:08 PST On Jan 01, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] From the Home of Rich & Peggy Martin Grand Prairie, TX 75050 RichSlick@excite.com It's nice to be important, but it's important to be nice. _______________________________________________ INTRODUCTORY COMMENTARY http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20001210.htm From the December 2000 Idaho Observer: Feds announce peopleless areas plan While the nation's eyes were on Florida, the Clinton administration stole public access to 144 million acres of federal lands WASHINGTON, D.C. -- A new federal rule announced November 9, 2000, intends to limit logging, skiing, snowmobiling, hiking, camping and fishing in national forests if federal bureaucrats decide those activities might permanently harm the ecosystem. We cannot do things that could put resources at risk, said Jim Lyons, the Agriculture Department undersecretary who oversees U.S. Forest Service (USFS) activities. Lyons justified the USFS position by claiming that, Ecological sustainability is the foundation upon which future management decisions will be made. Previous management decisions that have greatly diminshed logging and mining in this country have been made by USFS and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) officials based upon flawed science. Neither the EPA nor the USFS have been forthcoming with the raw field data upon which they determine public land use policy. The result has been increasingly restricted public access to public lands though not a shred of scientific evidence has been made publicly available to support claims that human commercial and recreation activity has been harmful to the environment or has endangered animal populations. Adena Cook, public lands director for the BlueRibbon Coalition, commented that Ecosystem [and] sustainability are buzzwords [that] give us a great deal of concern. Cook also indicated that federal enforcement of peopleless areas rules could cause her group to mount a legal challenge to what is intended to be exponentially increasing federal control of public lands. Lyons reportedly stated that he believes logging and other forest uses may continue but his agency will restrict such human activities if forests are not healthy. Ironically, Jim Rathbun of Libby, Mont., who is a retired USFS director of the Kootenai Forest, has stated that his agency has spent the last decade intentionally managing the forests in such a way as to increase the amount of ground fuel and to provide ideal habitat for infestations of bugs so that it can claim forest ill-health must be remedied by federally prescribed burns. The peopleless areas rules are the first official changes the USFS has made in 18 years with regard to how the agency implements the National Forest Management Act that governs public and private activities in forests. The new rules will allow bureaucrats who rarely, if ever, set foot in the woods to expend thousands of man hours analyzing computer models at their offices in big cities so they may may dictate where tourists can hike, camp, fish, hunt, snowmobile, use motorcycles and other off-road vehicles or ski. The new rules will also further limit logging and mining operations where forest health is deemed too sensitive for such activity. The USFS has made it an agency priority to determine exactly who and what can be where and when on at least 2/3 of the nation's public lands within the next three years. The first publicly announced forest management policy change in almost two decades intends to promulgate reasons why it must enforce complete control of over 100 million acres of national forests by 2003. Mike Leahy, a lawyer for the militant environmentalist group Defenders of Wildlife based in Washington, D.C., applauds the new rule as a step forward. Leahy sees how the new rule will allow the federal government to begin enforcing the importance of ecological needs in public forest management by limiting, or eliminating altogether, public access to them. Lyons is reportedly concerned, however, that the new rule may give federal forest managers too much leeway that will allow them to circumvent some environmental protections. The Idaho Observer P.O. Box 457 Spirit Lake, Idaho 83869 Phone: 208-255-2307 Email: observer@dmi.net Web: http://proliberty.com/observer/ Cut out the middlemen. Send donations to: Boys Scouts of America National HQ 1329 Walnut Hill Ln. Irving, TX 75162 http://www.SaveOurScouts.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Finally, A registration scheme that makes sense. (fwd) Date: 03 Jan 2001 10:48:25 PST On Jan 3, Bruce Chesley wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Its about time. Course, the nra will hate this. Bruce Chesley Truth is a terrible cross to bear. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.". Thomas Paine Treason for $$$: ALL "pro 2A" orgs. via: guntalk http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a5296aa72e3.htm Posted on 01/02/2001 19:04:10 PST by prophetic America 1st Freedom magazine Published: Jan 2001 Finally, A registration scheme that makes sense Vermont State Rep. Fred Maslack has read the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution as well as Vermont's own Constitution very carefully, and his strict interpretion of these documents is popping some eyeballs in New England and elsewhere. Maslack recently proposed a bill to register non-gunowners and require them to pay a $500 fee to the state. Thus Vermont would become the first state to require a permit for the luxury of going about unarmed and assess a fee of $500 for the previlige of not owning a gun. Maslack read the "militia" phrase of the Second Amendment as not only affirming the right of the individual citizen to bear arms, but as a clear mandate to do so. He believes that universal gun ownership was advocated by the Framers of the Constitution as an antidote to a "monopoly of force" by the government as well as criminals. Vermont's constitution states explicitly that "the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State" and those perssons who "conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms" shall be required to "pay such equivalent." Clearly, says Maslack, Vermonters have a constitutional obligation to arm themselves so that they are capable of responding to "any situation that may arise". Under the bill, adults who choose not to own a firearm would be required to register their name, address, Social Security Number, and driver's license number with the state. "There is a legitimate government intrest in knowning who is prepared to defend the state should they be asked to do so," Maslack says. Vermont already boasts a high rate of gun ownership along with the least restrictive laws of any state - it's currently the only state that allows a citizen to carry a concealed firearm without a permit. This combination of plenty of guns and few laws regulating them has resulted in a crime rate that is the third lowest in the nation. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Guns Kill (fwd) Date: 04 Jan 2001 12:00:16 PST On Jan 3, Steve Moser wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 5:18 PM Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 12:34 AM Guns kill! You bet they do. That's what they are made for. They are being used to eliminate an enemy in war time. They are being used by invading armies to conquer another country. They are being used by NATO to kill innocent civilians. They are being used by the minions of the United Nations to terrorize freedom loving peoples. They are being used by the police. They are being used by law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families from rogue invaders. They are being used by law-abiding citizens for target practice to improve their shooting skills. Now the governments everywhere are telling their citizens that the guns in the hands of citizens have become a threat to society. Too many crimes are being committed with guns. Such crimes have to be stopped. I totally agree! Crimes in which guns are being used against people are far too many. Just a few months ago thousands of people were murdered by a criminal outfit called NATO. Another group run by the same insane terrorist gang has committed untold atrocities against nations and freedom loving people throughout the world. The group I am talking about is the terrorist outfit calling itself "United Nations". The United Nations maims, rapes and kills under the banner of "peace". Let's take an example of a country known for its gun carrying and target shooting citizens. The citizens of this country do not have to hide from the police when going by foot, by bicycle or by car to target practice. Their guns are hanging over their shoulders in broad daylight middle of town on main street. The government is not afraid of these 'gun-toting' men, women and children. Yes, you bet, even children carry those guns. This country is located in the heart of Europe. Europe has seen many wars in the past. This country wasn't involved in a war for many decades, way back into the last century. This country is Switzerland. The crime rate in Switzerland is very low, lower than in most nations. This should not be the case according to our government's reasoning. Switzerland should be, and should have been for centuries, the crime capital of the world. Maybe Switzerland is inhabited by non-conformists to government theories. Or, maybe Switzerland is the true reflection of gun facts - facts our governments have to cover up with lies and deceit. Talking about lies and deceit - they could not be associated with governments. Governments would not lie. Governments have the best interest of the citizens at heart. Governments are here to help you. Think again - and think real hard. Governments have created every war, not the citizens. Governments have endorsed the recent NATO action against Yugoslavia, not the citizens. Governments are stealing our money, our rights, and our freedoms, not the citizens. Governments employ professional thieves and extortionists, not the citizens. Governments set up a court system which employs black robed thugs and extortionists to rob the citizens. Governments engage in all kinds of heinous crimes compared to a very few citizens. Who would you think wants to outlaw guns? Would it be the law-abiding citizen? Of course not! In my estimation it would be the criminal minority of a society which is afraid that the law-abiding citizen eventually has enough of the atrocities committed by the rogue gang composed of terrorists and will rise up against them. The members of this rogue gang are trying hard to convince the law-abiding citizens that the reason for gun control is crime. Of course it is crime! But who's crime? The crimes of the rogue gang composed of terrorists we generally call government. Yes, the government is composed of terrorists as was confirmed to me by every MP (299 of them) of the federal government of Canada. I have no doubt in my mind that all other governments are of the very same caliber, corrupt, deceitful and criminal. Why? Because all governments are controlled by the insane criminal minds of the NWO gang, 'the men behind the scenes'. In order for these men to successfully implement their grandiose and diabolical plans of controlling the world and every human being in it they will have to outlaw guns. Guns in the hands of citizens are extremely dangerous to these 'men behind the scenes'. Should we let them take our guns? Of course not. It's our responsibility to protect our families from anyone meaning us harm - and that includes the government. Governments which lie, cheat, steal, murder, extort, commit treason, deceive and terrorize cannot be trusted. Anyone trusting such a government is an outright fool and deserve to be taken for a ride into the abyss of tyranny. Is there a way by which we can keep our guns without creating a revolution? Absolutely YES! It's actually fairly simple. But it is impossible for us to keep our guns by asking someone else to stand up for us as it is happening right now. People think they can pay a few dollars to someone who promises to fight for us to keep our guns. The guns belongs to the individual. Therefore the individual has the duty to defend his right to keep his gun. No organization will do that job for the individual. It will not happen. Either the individual defends his rights and freedoms or he will loose both. Yes, it takes some backbone. If you haven't any backbone you are doomed. If you do have backbone enough you can keep your gun for your defense if you go the right way about it. Anyone participating fully in our program will be able to keep his gun. 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For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ============================================== [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: JUDICIAL WATCH TO SERVE AS NON-PARTISAN PUBLIC INTEREST LAW FIRM IN UPCOMING CONFIRMATION HEARINGS (fwd) Date: 04 Jan 2001 11:56:20 PST On Jan 4, Connie............ wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 10:18 AM FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 4, 2001 Contact: Press Office (202) 646-5172 JUDICIAL WATCH TO SERVE AS NON-PARTISAN CONSERVATIVE PUBLIC INTEREST LAW FIRM CONCERNING SMEAR CAMPAIGN IN UPCOMING CONFIRMATION HEARINGS ON CAPITOL HILL Filegate and Other Illegal Tactics Cannot Be Permitted, Even Against A New Administration Which Itself Has Little Interest in Cleaning Up and Prosecuting Government Corruption Jesse Jackson And Ultra Leftist Groups Threaten to Destroy Ashcroft, Chavez and Others With Charges of Racism and Other Demagogic Techniques (Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, Inc., the public interest law firm that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, will act on behalf of the public interest, concerning those cabinet nominees of the new Bush Administration, such as Senator Ashcroft, Linda Chavez and others, who have become targets of the ultra left wing groups which have vowed to destroy them with charges such as racism. Judicial Watch uncovered and sparked the Chinagate and E-Mail scandals, among many others, during the Clintonn-Gore Administration. During the last eight years, Judicial Watch has brought lawsuits for violation of privacy rights, libel, slander and other legal causes of action against government officials and their surrogates, who have misused government files, including those from the FBI, to destroy their opponents. Libel and slander suits have also been pursued for defamation. Many of the laws which apply carry stiff civil and criminal penalties. Judicial Watch has been critical of Governor George W. Bush and his newAdministration when warranted. For instance, during the presidential campaign the President-elect refused to discuss ethics issues, other than making general statements that "his election" to the Presidency would solve all problems. In the last few weeks, he has made some excellent cabinet picks, but also nominated his chief fundraiser to serve as Secretary of Commerce -- a post that should be free of "money politics," particularly given the recent experience of the Clinton-Gore Administration. Ironically, and regrettably, the current Commerce Secretary of the Clinton-Gore Administration, Norman Mineta, who is enmeshed in the ongoing Chinagate scandal and who has had dubious contacts with suspected spy Wen Ho Lee (see recent www.judicialwatch.org postings), was nominated just this week to be Secretary of Transportation by President-Elect Bush. This apparent insensitivity to government ethics and corruption issues will not be toleraated by Judicial Watch. However, neither will illegal smear tactics by leftist political operatives and others against conservatives and other persons who have done nothing wrong. 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[------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: VIN: Massachusetts shootings (fwd) Date: 04 Jan 2001 11:58:10 PST On Jan 4, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In my younger idealistic days (that compares to my mature idealistic days) I lived in Lynn, MA. I was the CFO of a virtually all-black housing project in the Roxbury section of Boston. I was also the Finance Chairman of my church in Lynn. After I got jumped one morning in the project, I gained a new respect for other people's hatred, and I approached a member of my Finance Committee who just happened to be the Chief of Police in Lynn. I told him of my fears/experience and asked him for a gun permit. (In MA, at least at that time, it was the Police Chief that okayed gun permits.) HE TURNED ME DOWN! That was 25 years ago, and I doubt things have gotten any better. Now, here's Vinnie. Rich Martin Moderator ^^^^^^^^^^ FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz The questions that are never asked, Part I The day-after-Christmas shooting spree by bearded 42-year-old misfit Michael McDermott in Wakefield, Mass. will doubtless bring early calls for more and harsher "gun control." In fact, Massachusetts already has among the harshest "gun control" laws in the country. McDermott (don't get me wrong -- what he's accused of doing was evil and unjustified and wrong) appears to have blithely violated many of those laws without experiencing any noticeable impediment to his plans. Massachusetts, you will remember, is the one state in the nation (so far as I know) where the "welcoming" billboards on state highways depict a handgun with the huge legend: "Have a gun, go to jail." Virtually every firearm in the Bay State must now (by law) be registered, the most noticeable effect of that law to date being that the commonwealth's law enforcement agents are now months or even years behind in processing all those hampers full of registrations and requests for registration, to the point where they started whimpering more than a year ago that without federal help and manpower (which would be unconstitutional, as though that stops anyone, any more) they may simply never get caught up. Actually, I misspoke -- there are two other results of such feel-good laws. 1) They do take cops off the streets to handle all the paperwork. Confident you don't need a gun in your workplace because you can always dial 911? Workers at Edgewater Technology -- McDermott's ill-fated workplace -- dialed 911. Wakefield isn't way up in the Berkshires, either -- it's in the densely populated silicon suburbs of Boston. Yet it took cops so long to respond that Mr. McDermott had finished killing everyone he was after, and was calmly sitting in the reception area waiting to be arrested, when police finally finished donning all their fancy SWAT gear and stormed in. (See "Dial 911 And Die: The Shocking Truth About The Police Protection Myth," by attorney Richard W. Stevens, www.libertymall.com.) 2) The second result of Massachusetts "gun control" -- which would thus be better dubbed "victim disarmament" -- is that McDermott was virtually assured none of his law-abiding victims would be armed in their own self-defense. The Wakefield shootings prove "gun control" will never work, unless advocates believe they can eliminate guns as thoroughly as the king eliminated all the needles from his kingdom in the fairy tale "Sleeping Beauty." The problems with that scheme being: 1) the king failed; 2) real-life bad guys never live up to such agreements (see "The Rhineland, 1936"; "Poland, 1939"); and 3) I keep asking gun control advocates if, as an initial three-year experiment, they'll agree to start by taking all the guns away from the police and the army. They never respond. Meantime, the Wakefield shootings do raise one other, more important issue. Most folks are wailing, as usual, that there was just "no imaginable reason" for this poor nut to go off the deep end. Leave aside the question of whether McDermott had recently under treatment with psychoactive drugs akin to Luvox or Prozac or Ritalin (like one of the shooters at Columbine High School, as well as that Kip Kinkel kid up in Springfield, Ore.) More importantly, McDermott bypassed several other possible targets to single out and kill seven members of the firm's accounting department. That accounting department had recently informed McDermott they would start seizing his paychecks and sending them to the IRS for "back taxes." The AP delicately reports the IRS had issued a "request to garnishee his wages" and that the firm had "agreed not to begin taking money from McDermott's paycheck until after the holidays." But that's bull. The IRS does not "request"; it demands. Employers do not merely "take" a little extra from each paychecks; they are routinely instructed under the "Notice Of Intent To Levy" (Form 668-W) to seize and send every dime to Washington, grabbing every cent of a working man's living -- the very thing the Constitution with its careful limits on "direct taxation" (not to mention the Bill of Rights with its Fourth and Fifth amendments) were designed to prevent the central government from ever doing. Imagine being told that -- no matter how hard you work -- you will never see another dime of your own earnings. The miracle is not that an occasional IRS victim goes homicidal here and there, but that so few of them do. These thoroughly illegal paycheck seizures are done to create an "incentive" for the worker to crawl on bended knee to the local IRS office, where he is expected to bare his financial soul (bringing along a year's worth of utility bills, grocery receipts, car repair bills, etc.) At that point, supercilious IRS drones will decide how many of those expenses to "allow" (yes, in many cases they will actually "not allow" one to retain as much as one can demonstrate one has been spending on car repairs, for instance -- recall that those subject to IRS liens can neither buy new cars "on time" for a decade, nor save up any money in a bank account for that purpose -- their bank accounts being regularly cleaned out and seized.) These simpering IRS weasels -- one pretending to be the victim's "advocate" -- then determine how much of his paycheck the worker "needs to live on" and draw up a formal, written agreement allowing him to retain only that amount ... the final reductio and goal of any socialist system of income redistribution. Thereupon, the "taxpayer" must "voluntarily" sign a waiver of his or her right to ever contest this "agreement" or the underlying assessments -- along with an arbitrary extension of the statute of limitations which would normally allow him to go free after a mere 10 years. If he fails to sign he will be dubbed "uncooperative," and the seizure of every penny from his bank accounts and paychecks can continue indefinitely. During this entire process, are either bookkeepers like those at Edgewater Technologies of Wakefield, Mass., or "taxpayers" like Michael McDermott, told that wage and employment taxes are voluntary in America -- that there's absolutely no statutory or legal requirement that in order to assume employment in this country a citizen needs to "request" withholdings by applying for a Social Security number, or to fill out a W-4 "request for withholding"? Were the Edgewater Technology bookkeepers -- who have now paid the ultimate and tragic price for their ignorance -- aware that IRS "notices of intent" to seize paychecks or bank accounts are not legally binding unless accompanied by a court order signed by a judge? Did they bother to ask why "paragraph A" of the legal code citation is always deleted from the "authorizing" fine print on the back of the IRS' standard "seize-his-paycheck" Form 668W (it starts with "paragraph B") -- the reason being that paragraph A specifies that said law authorizes the use of such onerous methods only against employees of the federal government? NEXT TIME: WHEN DOES "THE UNITED STATES" CONSIST ONLY OF "THE COMMONWEALTH OF PUERTO RICO, THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, GUAM, AND AMERICAN SAMOA?" Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, and editor of Financial Privacy Report (952-895-8757.) His book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available by dialing 1-800-244-2224; or at www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926) "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken * * * To subscribe, send a message to vinsends-request@ezlink.com, from your NEW address, including the word "subscribe" (with no quotation marks) in the "Subject" line. All I ask of electronic subscribers is that they not RE-forward my columns until on or after the embargo date which appears at the top of each, and that (should they then choose to do so) they copy the columns in their entirety, preserving the original attribution. The Vinsends list is maintained by Alan Wendt in Colorado, who may be reached directly at alan@ezlink.com. The web sites for the Suprynowicz column are at http://www.infomagic.com/liberty/vinyard.htm, and http://www.nguworld.com/vindex. The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: VIN -- limiting immigration (fwd) Date: 05 Jan 2001 20:23:36 PST On Jan 05, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Who makes 'the best' Americans? America's foreign-born population swelled to more than 28.3 million last year -- up 43 percent since 1990 -- with the majority now arriving from Latin America and Asia, the Census Bureau estimates. The percentage of residents in fast-growing Nevada who were born in foreign countries (now 15.2 percent) trails only the major "gateway" states of Hawaii, Florida, New York, and California ... with the Golden State now claiming a stout 25.9 percent foreign-born. A parallel report by the Center for Immigration Studies this week warns: "Immigration accounts for virtually all of the national increase in public school enrollment over the last two decades." One-third of recent immigrants lack a high school diploma -- more than three times the rate for natives, the CIS reports. More than half of post-1970 immigrants and their young children live in or near poverty, compared to 28 percent of natives and their young children. And one- third of immigrants do not have health insurance -- two-and-a-half times the rate for natives. "Because current policy allows in so many people who lack a formal education, immigration has resulted in an enormous growth in the poor and uninsured populations. ... We need to ask whether we want to grow our population this way," Steven Camarota, the center's director of research, warned The Associated Press Tuesday. "I think we don't, so I think we need to do a whole lot more to control illegal immigration. We need to have a policy that selects immigrants on skills and ability to compete rather than a policy that puts all or most of its emphasis on family relationships." Indeed, immigration can pose risks, particularly if efforts are not made to allow and encourage new arrivals to quickly integrate -- few would want to see America as segmented between rival ethnic or linguistic factions as Quebec or Rwanda. That's why even Hispanic immigrants soundly reject "bilingual education" in the public schools, whenever and wherever that turns out to mean cocooning immigrant children in long-term linguistic isolation. And immigrants who promptly go on the government dole are of course exasperating (the obvious and correct solution being to promptly eliminate the government dole in all its forms.) But why on earth should we believe a central government that's handed away billions to Russian kleptocrats and squandered fortunes on the flightless X33 "space plane" and especially on Space Porky, The Doomed International Space Station, will suddenly smarten up when it comes time to guesstimate which immigrant skills or traits will prove most valuable a generation from now? The grandparents of most of today's Americans lived "in or near poverty" by the standards of their day ... and certainly by today's. Few arrived here with advanced educations (though in fact, 11 percent of today's immigrants bring along a graduate or professional degree, compared to only 9 percent of natives.) Mr. Camarota's proposal that some committee of bureaucrats be allowed to "cherry-pick" which applicants would make "the best Americans" bears a slight burden of hubris. The main requirements to become a "good American" have always been the willingness to work hard, raise law-abiding children determined to make their own way in the world, and embrace the ideals of a republic which guarantees the rights of liberty and property to all men and women against the whim of any "democratic" majority, no matter how noisy. America's ethnic diversity has served her well, and the grandchildren of those poor, uneducated immigrants of a century ago are now among our most effective leaders. Yes, the nation has a right to control its borders, and it's a shame to see law-abiding would-be immigrants waiting patiently for years on other continents, while scofflaws take their place. But, that said, the process for "selecting" our legal immigrants should have much less to do with their skin color or accent, and much more to do with determining whether they can show they really understand and want to embrace our republic, along with the Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights that gave her birth. If only a fair number of the native born could be obliged to pass a similar test. Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal, and editor of Financial Privacy Report (952-895- 8757.) His book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available by dialing 1-800-244-2224; or via web site www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926) "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken * * * To subscribe, send a message to vinsends-request@ezlink.com, from your NEW address, including the word "subscribe" (with no quotation marks) in the "Subject" line. All I ask of electronic subscribers is that they not RE-forward my columns until on or after the embargo date which appears at the top of each, and that (should they then choose to do so) they copy the columns in their entirety, preserving the original attribution. The Vinsends list is maintained by Alan Wendt in Colorado, who may be reached directly at alan@ezlink.com. The web sites for the Suprynowicz column are at http://www.infomagic.com/liberty/vinyard.htm, and http://www.nguworld.com/vindex. The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: SRA - ASHCROFT Bashing - Pt1 (fwd) Date: 05 Jan 2001 20:22:24 PST On Jan 05, Brad3000 wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FYI - They really are mounting a big campaign against him - they are runing scared of what he may do. -- Brad/RKBA-Unity! Violence Policy Center Opposes Nomination of John Ashcroft for U.S. WASHINGTON, Jan. 4 /U.S. Newswire/ -- http://politics.yahoo.com/politics/features/us_newswire/20011/0104-111.html The following was released today by the Violence Policy Center: -- VIOLENCE POLICY CENTER OPPOSES NOMINATION OF JOHN ASHCROFT FOR U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL -- NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION WILL BE RUNNING THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT UNDER ASHCROFT, VPC WARNS The Violence Policy Center (VPC), a national organization working to reduce gun death and injury in America, today announced its strong opposition to the nomination of former Missouri Senator John Ashcroft for United States Attorney General. The VPC announcement represents the first time in the organization's 12-year history that it has publicly opposed a federal cabinet nominee. VPC Public Policy Director Joe Sudbay states, "During the 2000 elections, the National Rifle Association claimed that if George Bush won the presidency, the NRA would be working out of his office. Now they've gone one better. If John Ashcroft becomes attorney general, the NRA will be running the Justice Department." Issues cited by the VPC in its opposition to Ashcroft include: -- Ashcroft would be the first Attorney General in recent history who has been the beneficiary of massive spending by a special interest group with a political agenda that is in direct conflict with the duties of the office. During the 2000 election cycle, the NRA spent $339,237 in independent expenditures on behalf of Ashcroft in his failed Senate reelection bid. The NRA's PAC also made direct contributions to the Ashcroft campaign. -- Ashcroft endorsed and worked on behalf of a failed 1999 NRA-backed referendum in Missouri that would have allowed the carrying of concealed handguns by convicted criminals, including child molesters and stalkers, throughout the state. -- Ashcroft supports NRA efforts to immediately destroy essential records maintained under the Brady law's National Instant Check System (NICS) that ensure the system's effectiveness and accuracy. Currently the records are retained for 6 months. -- Ashcroft voted last Congress to weaken the Brady law. During Senate debate on whether to expand the current Brady NICS background check to all sales at gun shows (not just those by federally licensed dealers), Ashcroft not only voted against the measure, but voted for legislation sponsored by NRA Board Member Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) that would have weakened the Brady law by reducing the time allowed to conduct the background check by all gun-show sellers-including licensed dealers-from three business days to 24 hours. -- Ashcroft opposes the federal assault weapons ban. In September 2004 the federal ban on specific assault weapons and new high-capacity magazines -- which is supported by virtually every major national law enforcement organization -- will come up for reauthorization by Congress. Ashcroft opposes the assault weapons ban and twice voted in the Senate against a ban on the importation of foreign-made high-capacity magazines. The Justice Department will likely play a key role in determining what form the reauthorized ban will take and whether or not needed improvements to the ban are made. VPC Legislative Director Kristen Rand adds, "John Ashcroft will place the health and welfare of the NRA and its gun industry allies over that of the American public. What this means is simple: more assault weapons, less vigorous enforcement of federal gun laws, and a rollback of the Brady law. The Senate should not approve his nomination." The Violence Policy Center is a national non-profit educational organization working to reduce gun death and injury in America. For more information on the VPC and firearms violence issues, visit the VPC's Web site at www.vpc.org. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: The Crooks Are Being Exposed - IRS Crooks, that is (fwd) Date: 05 Jan 2001 20:24:55 PST On Jan 4, BOBWORN@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] January 1, 2001 Project TOTO Nationwide Plan To Expose and End the Illegal Operations=20 of the Income Tax System Individuals are being invited to a special meeting to be held in=20 Washington, DC on February 17, 2001, at the National Press Club.=A0 We=20 hope many will attend.=A0 While the meeting is not secret, we are not=20 seeking any media publicity. The meeting is being organized by individuals from several key freedom=20 groups who have been working together over the last several months to=20 plan, prepare and execute a large, coordinated, nationwide, multi-media=20 public information campaign ("Project TOTO"). The goal is to educate=20 scores of millions of citizens (along with accountants, tax attorneys,=20 legislators, judges, IRS employees, and prospective jurors) about the=20 true nature of the income tax laws, to expose operations of the IRS that=20 are unauthorized by law, and to put an end to their illegal collection=20 of taxes from people who do not owe them -- the vast majority of US=20 citizens.=A0 We will present the plan for this multi-million dollar=20 project that will utilize nationwide electronic, print and broadcast=20 media to put detailed documentation before the public.=A0=20 If the government has legitimate answers to the questions raised by the=20 legal research that has been done, we hope this kind of public=20 informational campaign will force those answers to the surface. We have started to see some results from previous direct, large-scale,=20 public educational efforts. We The People Foundation for Constitutional=20 Education ran full-page ad messages about the income tax in the=20 Washington Times last June and in USA Today on July 7th.=A0 These ads were=20 a big factor in prompting the New York Times to assign its senior tax=20 reporter, David Cay Johnston, to research and write an investigative=20 report. His article appeared on the front page of the November 19th=20 national edition (see We The People comments), and was followed by an=20 editorial on Tuesday, November 21, 2000. Both pieces focused on the=20 increasing number of employers who have stopped all tax withholding from=20 their employees. =A0 The IRS failed to rebut the legal claims of the=20 employers. Although the articles were heavily biased, it shows that the=20 subject is gaining national attention. =A0 Another example: a producer for=20 CBS' 60 Minutes II has now contacted Joe Banister for a piece that will=20 air in April, which will presumably focus on Mr. Banister's decision to=20 resign from his position as a Special Agent in the Criminal=20 Investigation Division of the IRS, because he could no longer enforce=20 the Internal Revenue Code as if payment were compulsory.=A0=A0 This was=20 after completing a two year private research project in which he=20 concluded that payment of the tax was voluntary.=A0 Another example: a=20 producer for John Stossel and ABC's 20/20 has requested a copy of the=20 tapes of the four symposiums and conferences the We The People=20 Foundation for Constitutional Education has sponsored at the National=20 Press Club on the subject of the fraud and illegal operations of the=20 income tax system. As the story of the tragic events of a taxpayer's life unfolded in=20 Massachusetts last week, we are reminded once again of the trail of=20 carnage and human tragedy left by our income tax system and the=20 government that refuses to address the legal grievances of the Freedom=20 movement. Even if Mr. McDermott was liable for the income tax (which is=20 not the case for most U.S. citizens), the law prohibits the IRS and=20 employers from doing what they were about to do to Mr. McDermott --=20 garnish his wages without a court order.=20 We believe that the tide has finally turned and NOW is the time to=20 publish and broadcast the collective detailed, statutory and regulatory=20 arguments of the Tax movement -- to put these facts before the American=20 public to reach a critical mass of people demanding an end to these=20 unconstitutional and illegal (corrupt) acts.=A0 We believe public exposure=20 is the worst enemy of governmental wrongdoing. This is our project. Everyone is invited to participate, contribute and=20 join with others to manifest a moment in history rivaling the legacy of=20 our Forefathers.=A0 Just as those Founding Fathers pledged their lives,=20 fortunes, and sacred honor to the cause of liberty, we will be asking=20 each of you to consider a similar pledge. Each of you who participates=20 has access to either intellectual property, a network of citizens and/or=20 access to financial resources.=20 Although the primary project strategy is to widely disseminate our=20 message for FREE, the plan also provides an opportunity for those who=20 are major contributors of intellectual arguments and property to market=20 their products and services. All financial donations toward the cost of the public information and=20 education plan ( "Project TOTO") will be held in trust, managed by an=20 independent attorney, and released only for the stated activities of=20 this project. If needed, arrangements may be made for protecting=20 intellectual property rights, etc. All donations to the Foundation are=20 tax deductible :-) We believe that by standing together and sharing the collective burden=20 of this calling, we can more rapidly and effectively accomplish together=20 what none of us has achieved alone thus far. We intend to ignite a=20 public discussion the likes of which our Nation has not seen for 225=20 years.=20 Please come to our February meeting, join your fellow countrymen and=20 become the heart of a moment in history when We The People carried forth=20 a great Light and took back our country. Although not required,=20 reservations are requested so that proper facilities and amenities will=20 be available. To register for the conference (it's free), click here. The meeting will be held from 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 a.m., February 17th,=20 2001, in Washington, D.C. at the National Press Club, which is located=20 at 529 14th Street, NW (at Ave. F). For hotel and contact information=20 see note below. To make a donation without attending, please send to We The People=20 Foundation, 2458 Ridge Rd., Queensbury, N.Y. 12804.=A0 For wire transfers=20 please call us on the number listed below. Blessings and safe travels to you all. Bob Schulz Chairman We The People Foundation for Constitutional Education 2458 Ridge Rd. Queensbury, N.Y. 12804 (518) 656 - 3578 Fax 656 - 9724 www.givemeliberty.org mailto:acta@capital.net=20 Hotel information: Contact Washington Accommodations for hotel=20 information at 1-800-554-2200 or visit their web site at=20 dcaccommocation.com. You may want to mention the Sofitel Hotel, a four=20 star hotel at Dupont Circle, which we know is currently running a=20 special room rate of about $87.00 per night. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Student handcuffed for opposing gay Jesus play [Corpus Christi] (fwd) Date: 07 Jan 2001 09:30:25 PST On Jan 6, Archibald Bard wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] [ Important you remember that the ultimate Goal of the Homosexual Activists is to destroy Christianity. ] Thursday, January 5, 2001 ---- TESTING THE FAITH Student sues college for psychiatric abuse Sent to mental ward after he objected to play depicting Jesus as homosexual By Jon Dougherty A junior at Temple University in Philadelphia, Pa., is suing university officials for allegedly having him involuntarily committed to a psychiatric ward following a dispute over a play depicting Jesus Christ as a homosexual. According to Brian Fahling, an attorney with the AFA Law Center in Tupelo, Miss., which is handling the case, Michael A. Marcavage was detained after he "initiated a Christian response" to the university theater department's decision to stage "Corpus Christi," a play that made its debut on Broadway in 1998 and depicts Jesus as a homosexual who has sex with his disciples. In the play, Jesus was eventually crucified for being "king of the queers." When it broke on Broadway, the play received national criticism. Marcavage, a former White House West Wing intern, immediately complained about the play to the dean of the School of Communications and Theater, as well as the president of the university -- whom Fahling said has since left Temple -- when theater officials announced it in the fall of 1999 . Besides informing those officials of the play's content, Fahling said Marcavage -- in a prepared statement -- admitted posting fliers all over the university "so that all Christians on campus would be aware of this horrible play," and made plans to stage a protest outside the theater when the play opened. In the days that followed, Marcavage said he had a number of meetings with William Bergman, vice president of campus safety, and Carl Bittenbender, director of campus safety. Though he had initially planned to protest, Bergman and Bittenbender eventually convinced Marcavage that protests might lead to confrontations between rival student factions. Marcavage then agreed to cancel his protest. Instead, he asked officials for permission to stage a Christian outreach to students; Fahling said the university security officials gave him permission for that. Marcavage, in his statement to Fahling, said Bergman promised him a stage would be provided to help him with his outreach program, but later the same day, Bittenbender allegedly called Marcavage to tell him that the stage "might be out of the question." The campus safety director then asked the student to meet with him and Bergman the next morning at the vice president's office. At that meeting, Marcavage said Bergman told him a stage would be too expensive to provide and therefore, one would not be set up for the outreach program. Marcavage said he then offered to pay for the stage himself, but was again told no -- without further explanation. Exasperated, Marcavage said he then "excused himself, went to the bathroom, locked the door and prayed about what he should do next," AFA officials said. According to the student, Bergman followed him to the bathroom and began pounding on the door, demanding that he open it and resume the discussion about the stage. Marcavage said he opened the door and "told him that I believed our conversation was over." Next, according to Marcavage, Bergman "physically" forced him back into the vice president's office and "pushed me into a chair and held me with his arm." Fahling said Marcavage asked to leave but Bergman "allegedly refused to allow it." "Attempting to rise, [Marcavage] said the vice president tripped him to the floor," then was "manhandled" to a nearby couch by both men "where they held him down." Within moments, Marcavage said, a Temple University police officer arrived and handcuffed him. Then, "Marcavage was taken by police ... to the Emergency Crisis Center at Temple University Hospital," AFA officials told WorldNetDaily. According to Fahling, under Pennsylvania law, a person that is involuntarily committed for a psychological evaluation "has to be a clear threat to himself or a clear threat to others," though he and Marcavage deny that the student "in any way" fits the criteria. Fahling said on-site interviews at the university with fellow students who personally know Marcavage -- including one who is a registered nurse and saw him that morning before his meeting with officials -- "indicated that he is not the kind of person" who would engage in behavior requiring a mandatory mental examination. Yet, at the crisis center, Bittenbender allegedly signed a statement describing Marcavage as "severely mentally disabled"; that he represented a "clear and present danger to others"; that he had "inflicted or attempted to inflict serious bodily harm on another" within the past month; and that he "has attempted suicide" -- all of which constituted a "reasonable probability of suicide unless treatment was afforded" him. Fahling said Bittenbender concluded his statement by asserting that Marcavage was "in need of involuntary examination and treatment." "When I was first told about this case, I found it hard to believe," Fahling told WorldNetDaily. "I thought it was something out of the 'Twilight Zone.'" He said that Marcavage was not found to be mentally distressed or exhibiting any behavior that matched the admission statement given by Bittenbender. "He was released three hours later -- and that was largely because it took [hospital staff] a while to get to him." Fahling said Dr. Jose Villaluz of the clinic staff did examine Marcavage "because, per state law, they are required to. But he didn't find anything wrong with him." The AFA attorney said documents provided by Marcavage show that Villaluz noted in his evaluation report that the student was "not in need of involuntary treatment." Fahling added that when Marcavage was being led out of Bergman's office by police, a university staff psychologist -- Dr. Denise Walton -- was on hand and commented that she couldn't understand why the student was being involuntarily detained. In a separate statement, Fahling said Walton wrote that she had seen "no overt sign that [Marcavage] was about to harm himself or others." "This is a young man of some substance," Fahling said. "I believe his story is genuine. This kid is solid as a rock." After being released, Marcavage said he tried to file a complaint with the university police department, but was rebuffed and told officers could not take a complaint against Bergman because he "is our boss." While still at the police station, Bergman arrived and allegedly told Marcavage that no report would be filed "because no crime had been committed," the AFA Law Center said. "His only recourse was to file a report with the Philadelphia Police Department," said the center, but it was unclear if Marcavage made that attempt. However, the student did try to complain through other university channels, but after those also failed, he made the decision to contact the law center and file suit. "Besides being a college student on the Dean's List, Michael was a White House intern with security clearance, is founder and president of a ministry called Protect the Children, president of his own business, and a volunteer who has worked with Campus Crusade for Christ and gone overseas with Feed the Children," Fahling said. "This is a good Christian kid who wanted to stand up for Jesus, and instead was handcuffed and dragged to a mental hospital as if he'd been seeing pink elephants," he added. Efforts to contact the university were unsuccessful. Fahling did not disclose the amount of settlement Marcavage is seeking. He said Bergman and Bittenbender are named as co-defendants in the suit. Jon Dougherty is a staff reporter for WorldNetDaily.com. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21225 Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 Keep And Bear Arms http://www.keepandbeararms.com Gun Control Victories http://www.guncontrolvictories.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Operation Oath (fwd) Date: 07 Jan 2001 14:59:13 PST On Jan 07, Margi Crook wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] [piml] Operation Oath Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2001 12:47:28 +0000 From: ICE To: ice-bucket@egroups.com, "R.J. Tavel's Lisleaf" >Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2001 20:35:55 -0500 >Subject: FYI - Operation Oath >From: lookin2c@juno.com > >Operation Oath > >It's time to rattle some cages. > >by Angel Shamaya >Founder/Director >KeepAndBearArms.com > >He who cheats on an oath acknowledges that he is afraid of his enemy, and >he thinks little of God. ~~ Plutarch > >Anybody wanna sue an oath breaker if we can hand you a ready-made lawsuit >on a platter and walk you through the process? > > 1.. Introduction > 2.. Example of The Approach > 3.. Information about Oath Requirements in each State Requested > 4.. Legal Ammunition Requested > 5.. Attorney in Each State Needed > 6.. Benefits of Operation Oath > 7.. Conclusion > >Introduction > >The time has come for gun owners to go on the offensive, in massive >numbers, in every city and county of every state in the Union. It is time >to press accountability upon every public servant who is infringing on >our rights. Gun rights, all rights. Now. > >It's time to say "Happy New Year" to the Oath Breakers. > >When people say they swear to uphold the Constitution and they don't, we >need to make them suffer the consequences of their actions, just like any >other citizen who breaks the law. The gross violations of your civil >rights must end. > >Operation Oath is going to take some time, so we're going to start of by >keeping this really, really simple. A few minutes of your extra time can >be put to very good use today, this week, and in the coming weeks. >Results. That's what we need at this time in our history. Pay attention >for the next couple of minutes, and you'll have a blueprint for one of >the several ways we are going to hold public servants' feet to the fire >on behalf of your Liberty. > >Example of The Approach > >Start by looking through The Arizona Oath page. I live in Arizona, so I >started here. We're going to use this information to figure out how we >Arizonans can make the oath-breakers very uncomfortable about their >transgressions. Here is the file: >http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=1682. > >What you will see, briefly, are all of the following. Those items with an >asterisk are federal issues that apply to your local and state public >servants, as well. > > a.. The Arizona Constitution's Requirement to take the Oath of Office > > b.. The Actual Oath of Office Public Servants in Arizona are Required >to Take > > c.. The Arizona Constitution on the Right to Keep And Bear Arms > > d.. * The U.S. Constitution on the Right to Keep And Bear Arms > > e.. * The U.S. Constitution Comes Before Statutes, Edicts, Ordinances, >Rules or Regulations > > f.. * The Civil Rights Act (every violator of rights is liable) > > g.. * Public Law 96-303, Code of Ethics for Government Service > > h.. * Links to All 50 State Constitutions > > i.. * All 50 State Constitutions on the Right to Keep And Bear Arms >(NOTE: This doesn't yet contain the "right to life" citiations from the >State Constitutions where RKBA isn't specifically enumerated. More on >those States in a moment.) > >I expect my hired public slaves to obey. ("Servant" and "slave" are >synonyms. I'm using "slave" here to make a point. It's a mindset shift. >Let your mind make the shift. We pay these people to work for us. I won't >use "slave" in direct contact with them, but I will use the word >"servant.") The days of expecting public slaves to self-regulate are >over. I'm done waiting. I say we launch multiple strikes on every last >one who disobeys his or her sworn duties, right now. > >Here is what I am requesting in the way of assistance. You can pitch in >as little or as much time as you please. Do something. This is going to >help you in your state, regardless of what state it is, so please chip >in. > >Information about Oath Requirements in each State Requested > >What we need is what I have already laid out for Arizona, but I'll spell >it out for you, for clarity's sake. > > 1.. The actual oath of office in your state, plus a website address >where it can be verified. If there are several, depending upon position, >we want them all. In some states, a judge's oath is different, for >example. Let's put 'em all in one user friendly file for effective, >immediate use. > > 2.. The Constitutional provision for the oath of office in your state, >plus website address where it can be verified (The web address for your >state constitution is at the bottom of the Arizona page linked above.) >NOTE: If you live in one of the states where you believe there is no >State Constitutional provision for the right to keep and bear arms, think >self-defense, liberty-defense, right to life... and look there. You have >a right to life, even if the bodyguarded politicians lie and say you >don't. Help us find an attorney with guts and passion in your state, and >we can attack on legal grounds based on the "right to life" approach. If >we have 200 gunowners attacking in court on the right to life, from >several angles, we'll wear 'em down. Strength in numbers, and I'm not >giving up on any state, ever. EVER. Every state has an inroad, because we >all have a right to life, period. > > 3.. Any statutory laws relating to the oath of office or to penalties >for the public slaves who defy it, plus the website address where it can >be verified. Click here to the State Legislative Index, and click over to >your state. Search your state's archives for the statutes regarding >oaths. Find the information. (State Legislative Index: >http://www.telicon.com/www/STLEG.HTM) > > 4.. Email Oath@KeepAndBearArms.com with all of the information you can >find. Please organize it so it's easy to follow. If you are guided to use >the Arizona Oath page as a template and create the html document for your >state, please do. You'll get full credit for compiling it and move us >along in your state that much faster. PLEASE give your email subject a >title that begins with the name of your state. For example, if you live >in Montana, your email subject should be MONTANA OATH INFO. We're dealing >with 50 states here. It's a lot. Please help the sorting process by >giving us your state's name in the email subject. > > 5.. I'm also looking for volunteers who can help create the pages for >each state. If you are handy with html documents and are willing to help, >email me directly, and give your email the subject of KABA HTML HELP. >Director@KeepAndBearArms.com > > 6.. Before you dig in on your state, check our Oath Archive to make >sure you don't duplicate work that has already been done. We will update >that page as information comes in. We've got a lot of information to pull >together, but with help, we can do it. > > >Legal Ammunition Requested > >We're looking for a few legal gurus to be a legal gurus, for the cause, >right now. Our goal is to create cookie-cutter lawsuits that can be >self-filed by as many Patriots as possible as quickly as possible for as >little money as possible, in every state where we have even a decent >chance of winning. (Anybody wanna sue an oath breaker if we can hand you >a ready-made lawsuit on a platter and walk you through the process?) Here >is what we require, ASAP: > > 1.. Legal citations where public servants have been defeated in a court >of law for violating their oath of office, plus a website address where >the information can be verified and linked to. Either state or federal >cases are most welcome. Both would be super. The more the merrier, and >one in each state would be magnificent. > > 2.. Legal groundwork laid for launching a prickly, effective lawsuit >based on denying our brothers and sisters the right to keep and bear >arms, the right to self-defense, the right to life and liberty, or >whatever other approach you wish to take > > 3.. Anything else you can see or dream up that would help us make life >a major bummer for the people who are trying to turn our country into a >police state > > >Attorney in Each State Needed > >We need an attorney in each state to draft a lawsuit for your state based >on oath violations or directly related to the denial of the right to keep >and bear arms. We are open to asking people to pay you a nominal fee for >your having done the legwork, but this isn't a money-maker; it's a >slingshot for Goliath, and We The People need a big, hard stone. > >To that end, we are now making an official call, nationwide, for every >pro gun attorney willing to confer with us on this and other legal >projects. If you are a pro gun attorney who would enjoy helping create >pro gun lawsuits that attack the Rights Infringers, please email me >directly. (And I do mean attack. I chose that word. No mercy.) Please let >me know what state you live in, and if you have any counsel about the >above, feel free to put it in your email. I'll read it. >Director@KeepAndBearArms.com If you know an attorney who is absolutely >with us on the right to keep and bear arms, procure his/her email >address, name and phone number and email it to us. > > >Benefits of Operation Oath > >I've talked to several attorneys who said this approach has promise, or I >wouldn't be so evangelical about it. The benefits of launching Operation >Oath -- as I see them -- are as follows: > > 1.. We put our legiservants on notice that we are not waiting for them >to come to us anymore. > > 2.. We raise the awareness of everyone we come in contact with that we >take the Oath of Office and the Constitution very seriously -- and so >should they. > > 3.. We win some cases based on the Second Amendment in the areas where >courts rule based on reality: the Second is an individual right. > > 4.. Those Second Amendment cases where reality still reigns and we win >are all pushes for a ruling from the Supreme Court. (I'm tired of waiting >for a ruling from those folks. I say we make it happen by sheer numbers >of conflicting rulings from circuit courts. There are so many strong >legal scholars on our side who will make a clear case for the individual >right, the only way they'll rule against us is if the String Pullers want >war -- and I'd rather know that sooner than later, wouldn't you?) > > 5.. We win cases in states that have a State Constitutional provision >for the right to keep and bear arms in defense of self, others and the >state. > > 6.. We win a case where the state has no State Constitutional provision >for the right to keep and bear arms -- by fighting based on the right to >life and the right to self-defense. (Your right to life necessitates that >you be able to defend yourself. In a society where criminals are heavily >armed, the only way you can defend yourself with certainty is to pack >heat. Anyone who tells you differently has already been turned by the >socialist system. But after seeing judges in both liberal California and >Taftized Ohio rule in our favor, I'm standing in the belief that real >Americans still wear black robes in places like New Jersey, Maryland, >Massachusetts and the other Northeastern states now considered by many to >be occupied territory. Let's find out if we can win within the system in >the socialist corners of our country.) > > 7.. We activate people who are tired of the more passive forms of >Liberty Activism. (Keeping a racehorse in the stable for too long is no >way to help improve his speed.) > > 8.. We learn, through trial and error, what works and what doesn't. > > 9.. We test the system within our respective communities and find out >if it still has a chance. A lot of people believe we can still put the >system to work for us. Okie dokie. Prove it. > > >Conclusion > >We Real Americans will turn this country back around. The Republic will >be restored. The rule of Real Law will be cleared of its ballast. There >are only two ways that is going to happen. One of them is much prettier >-- and more fun -- than the other one, and I say it's time we march down >that road, together. > >Perry Thompson and his good associates have begun work on the Second >Amendment Legal Project. Operation Oath will be affiliated with his work, >as one of many legal inroads back to the Constitutional Republic this >country was designed to be. The above is one way you can pitch in >immediately. Click that link immediately above for several others. > >Finally, Jim March is moving forward on his second legal battle in >California. He was denied his CCW permit by guys who didn't cover their >tracks very well, and it looks like his case has some sharp teeth. If you >haven't heard what Jim March is up to, go read the latest right here: >http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/trial2/. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: IRS Wants To Shut Down Pro-gun Internet Activities (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 2001 08:40:21 PST On Jan 9, ASSETNJ@AOL.COM wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] IRS Wants To Shut Down Pro-gun Internet Activities Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org January 8, 2001 The IRS has proposed some dangerous threats to free speech in their IRS Announcement 2000-84 (10/16/00). In a transparent effort to protect the incumbents in Congress, the Announcement would prohibit a link from the GOA web site to, for example, the Bush and the Gore sites so that you can see for yourself what their positions on firearms are during a campaign. Of course, GOA could do so if we subjected ourselves to the terms of the Speech Police at the Federal Election Commission. If GOA were to be treated as a political committee by the federal government, all of its members would have to be reported. That is obviously totally unacceptable. In an effort to deny funds for communications to members and the public, the Announcement would tax any proceeds from books and other products purchased at the GOA web site. If someone wants to further the work of GOA by purchasing things from GOA, why should the government put its greedy hands on that "income?" In other words, the IRS wants a Speech Tax. The announcement would also limit those with whom GOA could communicate. The IRS would determine who is a member and then say that only members can receive e-mail from GOA. Please communicate your displeasure with this Announcement by February 13, 2001. You can send your objections via postal mail to: Internal Revenue Service 1111 Constitution Avenue NW Washington DC 20224 Attn: Judith E. Kindell You can use the address: *TE/GE-Exempt-2@irs.gov to e-mail your objections. Please circulate this call for action to as many people as you can. The text of the Ammouncement is on pages 385-387 of the IRS bulletin at http://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/irs-irbs/irb00-42.pdf (401 Kb, Adobe Acrobat required). If you wish, you can use the suggested language below and post or e-mail it. Internal Revenue Service Attn: Judith E. Kindell 1111 Constitution Avenue NW Washington DC 20224 Re: Announcement 2000-84 Dear Ms. Kindell, Please do not put these measures into effect. The government has no business regulating or taxing speech and the organizations involved in advocacy. 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[------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Million Mom March Launches StopAshcroft.com Internet,... (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 2001 08:42:16 PST On Jan 9, ASSETNJ@AOL.COM wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Million Mom March Launches StopAshcroft.com Internet, Grassroots And Advertising Campaign. SAN FRANCISCO, Jan. 9 /PRNewswire/ -- The Million Mom March is announcing a major advertising, Internet and grassroots campaign called StopAshcroft.com aimed at blocking the confirmation of Attorney General nominee Senator John Ashcroft.... For the full text of this story, click here. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: From another list (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 2001 08:44:01 PST Perhaps the SS should start charging for their service..... On Jan 08, Margi Crook wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Just in case your blood pressure wasn't up enough.... As you know, the Clinton's had to establish residence in New York for Hillary to run for the Senate. So they bought that big house-BUT there was no place for Secret Service which has statutory responsibility to protect the First Family. So, a special 'safe area' was built. NOW, the Clintons are charging them rent! Perfectly legal.......hmmmmmmmm. BUT...! It just happens that their rent is about the same amount as the Clintons' mortgage payment! In short, we taxpayers pay for the Secret Service addition, AND the Clinton's mortgage! Dang deal, eh? What will it take for the American public to wake up? Don't you just feel like you've been suckered again, fellow taxpayers? [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: RE: INDIANAPOLIS BAPTIST TEMPLE OWES NO TAXES (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 2001 10:41:45 PST On Jan 9, House, David Alan wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] -----Original Message----- RonsGossip@aol.com wrote: > > Personally I commend the pastor for paying an illegal tax along with the rest > of us dummies! Sure the Bible say's pay Caesar, but I'm pretty sure it was > geared to mean a legal tax! Or does God okay illegal activities? > > RW They key here is to whom was Jesus speaking? He was speaking to the Pharisees when he said "render unto Caesar." When speaking to his disciples, He said something very different: "And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free." Matthew 17:24-26 And yet he paid the tribute, but by somewhat of a miracle. This is the best point of the whole morass, in my opinion. If we are expected to support monetarily the legally applied taxes then we most certainly would be wrong to pay those which are illegally applied. In fact we would indeed be assisting in the forces which are acting directly in opposition to that which we claim to support and which in times past have been identified as the foundation of our government. As there is no Constitutional foundation for that which is now in effect we are aiding the destruction of our founding documents and the freedom giving principles which they embody. If Washington and co. really had no idea what they were doing when they limited our government to operating funds from import tariffs lets abolish that part of it and make our tax system legal. As from the Constitution Party Platform... http://www.constitutionparty.com/ustp-99p1.html#taxes ...Article I, Section 8, gives Congress the power "to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts, and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States." In Article I, Section 9, the original document made clear that "no Capitation, or other direct Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census of Enumeration herein before directed to be taken." It is moreover established that "No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State." Since 1913, our Constitutional rights to life, liberty, and property have been abridged and diminished by the assumption of direct taxing authority on each of us by the federal government. We will propose legislation to abolish the Internal Revenue Service, and will veto any authorization, appropriation, or continuing resolution which contains any funding whatsoever for that illicit and unconstitutional agency. We are opposed to the flat-rate tax proposals that are being promoted as an improvement to the current tax system. The Sixteenth Amendment does not provide authority for an unapportioned direct tax. Moreover, it is our intention to replace entirely the current tax system of the U.S. government (including income taxes, Social Security taxes, estate taxes, and inheritance taxes). To the degree that tariffs on foreign products are insufficient to cover the legitimate Constitutional costs of the federal government, we will offer an apportioned "state-rate tax" in which the responsibility for covering the cost of unmet obligations will be divided among the several states in accordance with their proportion of the total population of the United States, excluding the District of Columbia. Thus, if a state contains 10 percent of the nation's citizens, it will be responsible for assuming payment of 10 percent of the annual deficit. The effect of this "state-rate tax" will be to encourage politicians to argue for less, rather than more, federal spending, and less state spending as well. We endorse ratification of the Liberty Amendment, which would repeal the Sixteenth Amendment. Further, it should be clear that for a professing Christian to protect and support such a system is an act entirely without merit and harmony with the heart of Christ. Such a Christian should be resolute in determining a method whereby such contribution will not be necessary and will at the same time avoid a damage to their witness. I am such a one who is prayerfully searching for the best method to disengage from this entirely despicable, anti-Constitutional, and un-Christian of activities. David House housed@indiana.edu [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: SRA - PETITION - Help Ashcroft Confirmation! (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 2001 20:26:13 PST On Jan 09, Brad3000 wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FYI - Sign this and forward to everyone you know! Lets do this NOW! Brad / R-K-F-B-A ! ------ Original Message -------- Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 17:12:37 -0800 From: "Daniel Cook" To: If you haven't already done so - please help President- elect George W. Bush by going to http://www.MillionsofAmericans.com/home/A394.cfm (formerly ElectionIntegrity2000) and signing your online petition to Senate leaders Trent Lott and Tom Daschle urging them to confirm John Ashcroft as Attorney General. **Daniel, use the personalized link at the bottom of this e-mal to avoid re-typing your name and address** As you know, President-elect Bush is taking a lot of heat for his cabinet nominees. Many Democrats are seeking to undermine his new administration any way possible. That's why we need to show the Senate leaders that the American people fully support George W. 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For Integrity, Bruce Eberle PS: By the way, if you'd like to see John Ashcroft's bio and his record as U.S. Senator and Governor of Missouri - we've got more info posted on our site. ================================================= PERSONALIZED LINK TO ASHCROFT PETITION use this link to avoid retyping your e-mail address --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.millionsofamericans.com/home/A394.cfm?L=DC113366&P=K9ZD2J http://www.millionsofamericans.com/home/A394.cfm?L=DC113366&P=K9ZD2J * Delete this personalized link and the opt-out section below before forwarding this e-mail * ================================================== If you would like to unsubscribe from Millions of Americans e-mail updates or change your e-mail address, please visit our web site at: http://www.millionsofamericans.com/home/up.cfm?L=DC113366&P=K9ZD2J&A=391 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: California Power woes, an opportunity (fwd) Date: 11 Jan 2001 16:32:42 PST On Jan 11, Jim Zoes wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] If the California Republicans have any smarts at all, they'll start beating the imcompetency drum against Grey and the democrats INCLUDING all their liberal, elitist, gungrabbing, extreme environmentalist friends. This is an excellent opportunity to highlight the failures of democrats in general, liberal democrats -- who tend to be both anti-power and anti-gun -- in particular. Conservatives have an opportunity to push recall votes of Perata and the rest of the gun grabbing gang by linking them to their votes and past positions on the so-called "deregulation" laws (which do no such thing). If we can't beat them at the polls over gun grabbing, lets beat them over the heads over energy policy. Anyway to get rid of them...just as long as they are gotten rid of. >From Yahoo: http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/010111/n11557225.html Calif. set to shut off power for up to 2 mln (UPDATE: previous SAN FRANCISCO, adds byline, reworks throughout) By Nigel Hunt LOS ANGELES, Jan 11 (Reuters) - California power officials on Thursday said up to two million residents faced enforced blackouts as the most powerful winter storm in three years tipped the state's power grid into crisis. The California Independent System Operator (ISO), which runs most of the state's power grid, said the outages could last as long as four hours from 4 p.m. (7 p.m. Eastern) with northern California, including San Francisco and Silicon Valley, taking the brunt of the blackouts. Kellan Fluckiger, the ISO's chief operating officer, said the expected loss of 2,000 megawatts of power would impact around two million of the state's 34 million residents. Power cuts would rotate with customers losing power for one hour before the blackout moved to another group, he said. [snip] [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: A Bloody Nose for Petty Dictators (fwd) Date: 11 Jan 2001 18:43:04 PST On Jan 11, Huck wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Some of you are gonna love this! ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 2:21 PM > Wetlands. In my childhood, these were called swamps. That's where mosquitos > bred ... from from mosquitos, many interesting and varied diseases. > Wetlands, indeed. > Patty > > Forwarded: > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Them" > To: > Subject: A Bloody Nose for Petty Dictators > Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 17:29:15 -0700 > > American Spectator Online www.spectator.org > January 10, 2001 > > Bovard's Batterings > > > A Bloody Nose for Petty Dictators > > by James Bovard > > Not all the wailing today in Washington is coming from > supporters of Linda Chavez. Much of it is being supplied > by environmentalists. The greens are traumatized that the > Supreme Court on Tuesday refused to allow the Army > Corps of Engineers and the EPA to have dictatorial power > over every mud puddle in the land. > > "Today the court takes an unfortunate step that needlessly > weakens our principal safeguard against toxic water," > Justice John Paul Stevens wrote for the four dissenters. > > Stevens'' whine epitomizes the liberal notion that the > slightest decrease in arbitrary government power will cast > the entire nation into purgatory. > > But the only purgatory here was that created by federal regulators. > > In 1972, Congress passed the Clean Water Act. Its > purpose, in part, was to reduce the pollution of navigable > waters. The Army Corps of Engineers received the power > to approve or deny permits to discharge dredged or fill > materials into navigable waters, and Congress gave the > EPA the power to veto Army Corps' permits. In 1975, a > federal judge decided that this provision also applied to > wetlands that were adjacent to navigable waters. > Subsequent regulatory and court decisions further > expanded federal power. Roughly 100 million acres of land > __ most of it privately owned __ thus fell under federal > jurisdiction. To claim that wetlands were navigable waters > made no sense, but few judges were willing to stand in > front of the regulatory juggernaut. > > Thanks to these contortions, federal agencies prosecuted > private citizens based on laws that had never been written, > on memos that had never been made public, and on > assumptions that could not stand the light of day. > > The Army Corps has long claimed jurisdiction even over > isolated wetlands that have no impact on the nation's > waterways. One of its justifications has been the "glancing > geese" test: If a migrating bird glances a wet spot below, > then that spot is automatically part of interstate commerce _ > _ because a hunter in some other state might subsequently > shoot the bird. Although the rule was never officially > announced as federal law, EPA officials applied the bird > rule in thousands of cases. EPA has repeatedly promised to > formally promulgate the regulation, but has never done so. > > Tuesday's case involved a consortium of Chicago_area > governments that wanted to convert some land into a > dump. Chief Justice Rehnquist ruled that "permitting the > [government] to claim federal jurisdiction over ponds and > mud flats would also result in a significant impingements > of the states' traditional and primary power over land and > water use."" > > The isolated wetlands provide little or no environmental > benefit. It is unlikely that the Supreme Court''s decision > will ignite a frenzy of building across the nation. Most of > the so_called isolated wetlands will continue in their > current state: and the ones that do perish will be no big loss. > > This ruling is being interpreted largely in federalist terms. > By trimming EPA and Army Corps prerogatives, however, > it is also a victory for property rights. Unfortunately, the > Supreme Court failed to take up earlier cases that offered > classic illustrations of the EPA and Army Corps trampling > individual land owners, such as the 1992 Hoffman Homes case. > > It is ironic to hear enviros wail over a decision that reduces > the power of the Army Corps of Engineers. To place the > Army Corps in charge of wetlands regs is like placing a > convicted child molester in charge of the government Child > Protection Services. The Corps is renowned for disrupting > the American landscape with an endless series of > "bulldozer full employment programs." > > While ready to drop the hammer on private developers, the > Army Corps destroys far more wetlands than any > corporation. A single project that the Corps is pushing in > Missouri will destroy 36,000 acres of wetlands __ which, as > the Washington Post noted in September, is "nearly twice > as many as all of America's developers were permitted to > touch last year." But government_destroyed wetlands are > not an environmental problem because government > supposedly acts in the public interest. > > The most telling phrase in the decision came from the > dissent. Stevens and his fellow fans of Leviathan > harrumphed that the majority was guilty of a "miserly > construction" of the Clean Water Act __ and that the court > owed more "deference" to federal regulators. > > To give unlimited deference to federal regulators means > creating an unlimited bias against citizens'' right to live > their own lives. "Miserly" is a strange term to use to > condemn a decision that slightly reduces the federal sway > over private citizens. The Founding Fathers created > safeguards to insure that the federal government had only a > miserly amount of power; some current Supreme Court > justices seem to believe that citizens deserve only a miserly > amount of freedom. Rather than serving as a bulwark to > defend the Bill of Rights, many justices seem to view their > jobs the same as did the ministers of King George III __ > doing whatever necessary to maintain the king''s > prerogatives. > > James Bovard is the author of "Feeling Your Pain": The > Explosion & Abuse of Government Power in the Clinton_ > Gore Years (St. Martin's Press). [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Watson Subject: Riady Admits Illegally Funding Clinton (fwd) Date: 12 Jan 2001 10:48:37 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Riady Admits Illegally Funding Clinton http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=3Dmb1075995 Friday, 12-Jan-01 01:16:37=20 24.14.28.77 writes:=20 Riady Admits Illegally Funding Clinton=20 NewsMax.com Friday, Jan. 12, 2001=20 Indonesian billionaire James Riady has agreed to pay a record $8.6 million criminal fine for illegally funding Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign, the Justice Department said Thursday night.=20 According to the Associated Press and other wire services: In a plea bargain filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, Riady agreed to plead guilty to one felony count of conspiracy for concealing foreign contributions, which are illegal in the U.S. He will not face jail time.=20 The government's court filing said the goal of the contributions was to buy influence for Lippo Group and LippoBank.=20 Riady is to surrender and come to the U.S. at an unspecified future date =96 even though there is no extradition treaty between Indonesia and the United States. Fox News reported he was expected to fly from Indonesia to Los Angeles for a court appearance Tuesday.=20 An FBI summary released last year said Democrat fund-raiser John Huang, a Riady employee, reported that in 1992 Riady told Clinton during a limousine ride that he wanted to raise $1 million for his campaign. Huang pleaded guilty to a campaign financing felony and has been cooperating with the government since August 1999.=20 Last April, Clinton told federal investigators he did not have "a specific recollection of what the conversation was, or this fact of the car ride.'' He said all he could remember was seeing Riady "sometime in '92 after I became the nominee,'' and that Riady promised to help his campaign.=20 LippoBank California, a bank affiliated with Riady's Lippo Group, agreed to plead guilty to 86 misdemeanor accounts charging that its agents, Riady and Huang, made illegal foreign campaign contributions from 1988 through 1994. Riady also agreed to assist with the government's inquiry.=20 Riady is one of 26 people and two corporations so far charged by Justice's campaign finance task force, established four years ago. The Ray Connection A Justice Department official said that independent counsel Robert Ray, who is investigating Clinton on other matters, was consulted and indicated that the plea bargain was consistent with the interests of his investigation, which does not include campaign financing.=20 Ray's office has prosecuted former Justice official and Clinton friend Webster Hubbell, and has looked into whether payments to him, including $100,000 from Lippo Group after he resigned, were designed to keep him from testifying against Clinton or his wife, Hillary.=20 Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics: Clinton Scandals SOURCE: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/1/11/215311.shtml =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Justice Department investigation should target UT campus http://net.cs.utexas.edu/users/boyer/fp/texan-970317.html Justice Department investigation should target UT campus Clayton Vernon TEXAN COLUMNIST According to The New York Times, former UT System Regents Chairman Bernard Rapoport hired Webster Hubbell for a joint venture with the Riady family in Indonesia during the brief time before Hubbell's fede= ral imprisonment. This shocker should end naive beliefs that the cozy and profitable relationships between the individuals who ran this system = and Indonesian interests was above-board. Whitewater prosecutor Kenneth Starr is investigating these and other enormous payments, totaling $400,000, to determine if they were "hush money" related in any way to Hubbell's decision to not cooperate with federal investigators. Appearances of impropriety include frequent visits to Hubbell in prison by the Clintons' close personal friends, to remind him the Clintons still "cared." ----->The Lippo Group, an Indonesian conglomerate run by the Riadys, helped introduce since-disgraced fund-raiser John Huang to the Clinton administration, which later endorsed Rapoport's $2 billion Chinese real-estate project. Rapoport's public service to Texas served his private interests well. Clinton has claimed ignorance of these "indefensible" payments from his good friends and his best friend. We can no longer deny the coinciding of Rapoport's sudden interest in hiring Hubbell as his lawyer, and the large consulting compensation paid to UT System Chancellor William Cunningham by Jim Bob Moffett and Freeport-McMoRan -- a large and controversial corporate presence in Indonesia. We now expect the Justice Department's investigation to shift south, to the Democratic Leadership Council. This group was co-founded by Sen. John Breaux of Louisiana, who helped Moffett intimidate our faculty last year. This cozy relationship suggests our system administration lacks integrity. This sad possibility is supported by other events. Last year, we lost a "whistle-blower" lawsuit in which a plaintiff alleged the Universit= y deliberately undercollected royalties from oil and gas producers with ties to administrators. Now there are allegations of administrators being forced to contribute to the DNC. Students, faculty and staff are completely unaware of the alleged sle= azy machinations. Perhaps our traditional reliance on the Democratic Part= y's support of higher education has left us vulnerable to its recent indiscretions. Perhaps UT President Robert Berdahl had some of these consideration i= n mind when he accepted the chancellorship at Cal-Berkeley. Berdahl is = a man of principle, he may have felt totally out of place within the highest levels of the UT System. Vernon is a graduate student in economics. ---------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Waco and the Drug Mafia=20 As best as I can find it was Bernard Rapoport who sells all the life insurance to Teamsters Union members and is of course connected to the Chicago Mafia, Dan Rostenkowski, Hillary Clinton, Hubbell, Dan Lasater, Mochtar Riady, John Huang, the Chinese Communist and the whole Opium-China-CIA connection going back I guess to the Boxer rebellion. [snip] http://www.konformist.com/vault/wacodrug.htm -------------------------------------------------------------------- SEE WHO WACO.... http://www.apfn.org/apfn/whowaco.htm=20 Waco Newspage http://www.konformist.com/1999/waco99.htm Ex-Waco prosecutor wants charges dismissed http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=3Dmb1075995 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Med Alerts - MD & DE http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=3Dmb1075995 The Clintons Strike Again http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=3Dmb1075995 Secretary Miller files a lawsuit to protect Michigan residents' privacy.=20 http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=3Dmb1075995 EMERGENCY ALERT AT THE BAPTIST TEMPLE http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=3Dmb1075995 "I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I=20 can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will=20 not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do,=20 I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,=20 I will do." - Edward Everett Hale http://www.apfn.org - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Vin: - the state religion (fwd) Date: 14 Jan 2001 11:22:30 PST Looks like the goal of the enviro whackos is to remove all of the advantages to living elsewhere than in an easily controllable city environ, not to mention removal of all uncontrollable food supplies. Of course, it's only just becomming more obvious..... On Jan 14, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz The state-established religion of Environmentalism The official October 1990 report "Sage Grouse Production and Mortality Studies," prepared as the final report of the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Project W-48-R-21, Study XVII, Job 1, edited by San J. Stiver and prepared by Don Klebenow, Gary Zunino and others, demonstrated (by using chicken eggs ... Subject: Jan. 14 column -- the state religion FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED JAN. 14, 2001 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz The state-established religion of Environmentalism Bruce Wilkin is a Pioche native and 1958 Nevada high school graduate who came back to Ely to practice medicine in 1975. Like many long-time Nevadans, Wilkin remembers when the game herds were thick on the land those animals shared with Nevada's cattlemen. He's seen the campaign by government regulators to move the cattle off the land (Clark County retains only two of what were once 50 ranching families -- and the federals have been trying to run Cliven Bundy off his Mesquite allotment for eight years now) ... walling off human access to swatches of real estate the size of New England states under a brand of "environmental protection" that forbids cattle or sheep from grazing back the forage, which subsequently dries out and leads directly to our current wave of cataclysmic wildfires. Furthermore, Bruce Wilkin the country doctor has done the studies and can show the graphs proving it's not cattle that are responsible for these bigger and more destructive wildfires, or for the thinning of game species like the deer and the sage grouse. Dr. Wilkin's graphs (based on the state's own data) show Nevada's deer herd was healthiest precisely when the most cattle were run on the range -- from about 1948 to the early 1970s -- and then dropped precipitously when the poisoning of coyotes was halted during the Nixon and Ford administrations. Further, while government regulators claim ranchers and hunters are to blame for the thinning of the sage grouse, the good doctor hands me a copy of the 1990 study which he says the Nevada Department of Wildlife has "buried" ... precisely because it shows the problem is not the cattle, but the end of programs to control the now exploding populations of coyote, raven, and mountain lion. The official October 1990 report "Sage Grouse Production and Mortality Studies," prepared as the final report of the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Project W-48-R-21, Study XVII, Job 1, edited by San J. Stiver and prepared by Don Klebenow, Gary Zunino and others, demonstrated (by using chicken eggs to set up mock sage grouse nests near typical raven habitat) that the decline in sage grouse populations can be entirely attributed to raven predation of the nests. "At the completion of the 15 day period, all 1,400 eggs were destroyed in both study areas," the report concluded. "On the Grassy Meadows Study Area in Surprise Valley, 84 percent of the nests were destroyed in the first three days. Ravens were believed to be the chief nest predator." The 1990 study only confirmed earlier studies such as that of researcher Warren Allred, who found that in Wyoming in 1942, "Eighty percent of all sage grouse nests were being destroyed by predators -- of which 23 percent were attributed to ravens and 14 percent to coyotes. It was found that even in areas completely protected from hunting, sage grouse were steadily declining." In fact -- here Dr. Wilkin agrees with such long-time Nevada ranchers as Cliven Bundy and Cliff Gardner -- the journals of the first white men to cross Nevada found it so bereft of game the Indians were reduced to eating insects, while the travelers often considered eating their pack animals to make it through. Thick herds of deer and flocks of game birds showed up only after ranchers moved in to improve the water features (clearing springs, building tanks and ponds); set their cattle to improving ground cover by cropping plants which evolved in an ecosystem dependent on large ungulates to clear room for new growth and to help the plants re-seed; and finally completed the equation by severely thinning out such predators as the coyote and the raven -- all now "protected" by muddle-headed "environmentalists." But because information like the Klebenow-Zunino report doesn't mesh with the current drive to force ranchers and hunters from the land in keeping with the new state-established religion of Environmentalism (which designates "untouched wilderness" as its cathedral), the 1990 study was "buried" by Willie Molini's state Department of Wildlife, Wilkin insists. Over dinner at the Prospector restaurant in the Ely Holiday Inn, Wilkin -- glancing occasionally at his pager in case he should be called back to the ER -- hands me an invitation to the "Nevada Land Use Summit 2001," being put on by Assemblywoman Marcia de Braga and Sen. Dean Rhoads in Carson City Feb. 23 and 24 (call 775-883-7863), which intends to focus on the interrelated issues of noxious weeds, wildland fires, and Nevada's sagging sage grouse population. Wilkin points out a section on page 2, underlined by the organizers: "There have been questions about distributing materials other than those provided by the 2001 Summit. We respectfully request (that) NO outside materials be brought in by any individual or group for distribution." This is so the state wildlife bureaucrats can make sure no one presents copies of studies -- even their own studies -- which contradict the current myths about hunters and ranchers, Dr. Wilkin says. I called both Assemblywoman De Braga and Sen. Rhoads -- both of whom are in the ranching business -- to ask about that. Both denied it was their intention to ban any such relevant material. I asked if Dr. Wilkin or Cliven Bundy or Cliff Gardner has been asked to address the meeting. Ms. De Braga said there "are no specific invitations, we're not going to have many actual speakers." (Actually, two hours are set aside Friday morning for a motivational talk by "renowned facilitator" Susan Carpenter, on the topic, "How to Get to Yes.") "But certainly anyone is welcome to attend." Cliff Gardner says he has no intention of showing up where he's not wanted. "They don't want Cliff Gardner and his stuff; they don't want the truth. What do you suppose that 'no outside materials' rule is all about? I've got more scientific evidence about what's happened to the sage grouse than anyone else in this state, but do you think Cliff Gardner is welcome there? All it is a PR event for the (Department of Wildlife) bureaucrats." NEXT TIME: BAGS FULL OF TORTOISE SHELLS Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. His book, "Send in the Waco Killers" is available at 1-800-244-2224. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926) "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed - - and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. 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[------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: ? (fwd) Date: 14 Jan 2001 14:24:56 PST On Jan 14, RonsGossip@AOL.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 1/13/01 8:42:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, TickedAmerican writes: Fiction or fact? << JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE THE RIGHT TO REPEL FORCE BY FORCE Citizens may resist UNLAWFUL ARREST to the point of taking an ARRESTING OFFICER'S LIFE if necessary. Plummer v. State, 35 Ind. 308 (1893) This fundamental premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the united States in the case of John Bab Elk v. U.S.,177 U.S..929 (1900) when the court stated: where the OFFICER is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with different eyes upon the transaction, when the OFFICER had THE RIGHT to make an arrest, from what it does if the OFFICER had NO RIGHT. What might be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that NO OFFENSE had been COMMITTED. An arrest made with a defective warrant; or one issued without a Affidavit; or one that fails to allege a crime is without jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. If the ARRESTING OFFICER is killed by the one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER. Houah v. People, 75 Ill. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn.452; State v. Glasson, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 340; State v. Rousseau, 241 P2d. 447: State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 361.. When a person; being without fault, is in place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel force by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justifiable.. Ruym(?) v. State, 57?(67?) Ind. 90; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1 ... These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who lawfully uses such force and violence. Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. 1; Basverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 175; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex.93.. We shall either be ruled by GOD or We shall be ruled by tyrants (William Penn ) [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: WA. Rep. Kathy Lambert Seeks support of SSN Challenge] (fwd) Date: 16 Jan 2001 09:58:57 PST On Jan 15, Dennis Justice wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Cc: To All JAIL Readers and Subscribers: Before me is a response from Washington State Representative Kathy Lambert to our Jan. 14th JAIL News Journal about Michigan's challenge of the Federal Government's forced requirement of the states to use the Social Security Number for identification as it pertains to the driver's license. I had the opportunity of personally meeting Rep. Kathy Lambert while visiting Washington State when Brad Goodspeed (WA. J.A.I.L.)sponsored us up to Washington for their August, 2000 JAIL BBQ and fundraiser. Rep. Lambert has indicated that she would like to see Washington State also join in the Social Security Number challenge of the Federal Government. Read her response below. Let's all write Rep. Kathy Lambert and encourage her and show our support, not only for Washington State, but also for our own respective states. -Ron Branson- ld ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 1:18 PM This is great! I want Washington [State] to join in and show the same courage. ... Thank you. Rep. Kathy Lambert, Washington State Representative lambertk@gte.net ld J.A.I.L. News Journal Los Angeles - January 14, 2001 ____________________________________________________ Listen to HotSeat4Judges daily on Internet Radio M-Th, 6-7 pm P.T. ____________________________________________________ For a beautiful navy blue T-shirt with "J.A.I.L." on the back and www.jail4judges.org large and visible over the pocket, imprinted in a bright yellow-gold lettering, send your check payable to J.A.I.L. for $11.95 plus $4 S&H. (Discounts on volume quantities.) Wear them to your next courthouse function and watch the reaction. Federal Court To Determine Social Security Challenge Suit claims invasion of privacy State official wants to protect Social Security numbers By Charlie Cain / News Lansing Bureau Chief What's next * U.S. District Judge Robert Holmes Bell will schedule a hearing on Michigan's suit. * The state could lose about $1 billion annually from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services for not following the new law. * Secretary of State Candice Miller predicts the state will prevail -- or comply with the law before losing federal funds. LANSING -- Secretary of State Candice Miller Thursday sued the federal government to block a new law that would force Michigan to collect Social Security numbers from nearly 7 million motorists, which she calls a privacy invasion. "I feel very strongly that the role of government should be to protect your personal privacy, not to be invading (it). No wonder people are afraid and they talk about Big Brother watching them," Miller said shortly after a suit was filed on her behalf in U.S. District Court in Grand Rapids. At issue is a provision in federal law that took effect Oct. 1, requiring states to gather Social Security numbers from applicants seeking or renewing driver's licenses. It's a little-noted portion of the 1997 welfare reform act, designed to help recover overdue child support from deadbeat parents. Miller said Michigan already does better than most states in collecting support payments. And she feels that creating another database with Social Security numbers could add to the growing crime of identify theft. Pam Carter, a Washington spokeswoman for the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, said she couldn't comment in detail on the suit beyond noting that Michigan is the only state not complying. An exemption request was rejected twice. Michigan faces the potential loss of about $1 billion annually for disobedience, though no federal grants would not be withheld while the case is pending. If she loses in court, Miller said, she'd comply to avoid the financial loss. No hearing date has been set. Michigan's suit argues the exemption should be granted because the law violates the U.S. and state constitutional guarantees against invasion of privacy; represents an unfunded federal mandate; and violates the 10th Amendment by requiring a state to administer a federal regulatory program. Miller said the IRS already maintains Social Security numbers and would be the ideal agency to concern itself with collecting support payments. * You can reach Charlie Cain at (517) 371-3660 or ccain@detnews.com. Copyright 2001 The Detroit News. ld * The Bible predicted 2000 years ago that every man, woman and child would be numbered. "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:16,18. It is anticipated that a small computer chip the size of a grain of rice will be forced to be implanted into every person at the penalty of death. That a world-wide internet type trade will be the only way of buying and selling by passing one's computer chip under a sensor, and while it will prosper business, it is necessary to accept worship of demonic influence in order to participate therein. "If any man ... receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured our without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the hold angels..." Rev. 14: 9, 10. Can anyone question that the SSN is the forerunner of this universal numbering system to be set up by the government? This numbering system will only come about by the endorsement of the judicial system, which will be its impetus. J.A.I.L. is an acronym for (Judicial Accountability Initiative Law) JAIL's very informative website is found at www.jail4judges.org JAIL proposes a unique new addition to our form of government. JAIL is powerful! JAIL is dynamic! JAIL is America's ONLY hope! JAIL's is spreading across America like a fast moving wildfire! JAIL is making inroads into Congress for federal accountability! JAIL may be supported at P.O. Box 207, N. Hollywood, CA 91603 To subscribe or be removed: add-remove-jail@mindspring.com All E-Groups are encouraged to sign on at jail4judges@egroups.com Open forum to make your voice heard JAIL-SoundOff@egroups.com "..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." - Samuel Adams "There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." -- Henry David Thoreau <>< [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Exactly How Extreme IS Ashcroft? (fwd) Date: 17 Jan 2001 14:37:42 PST On Jan 17, Huck wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] I love the way this woman thinks! Ken Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:09 PM > (Snits make you warm in winter. :) > > > Exactly How Extreme IS John Ashcroft? > By Patricia Sharon Neill © 2001 > > As an "oppressed" female (read, housewife) I get to stay home and watch TV. > So I was creatively interpreting my "oppression" and watching CSPAN this > morning. A coalition of women's groups-the usual godawful gaggle of whiny > biddies (NOW, women who think abortion is a female's highest civil right, > black women, Jewish women, all with their chips firmly on shoulder) were in > a snit about the Ashcroft nomination for Attorney General. > > Nearly every sentence uttered included the word "extremist" or other > variations of the word. Never mind that Ashcroft is probably closer to how > most sane Americans think and feel-to these biddies, he's a "white male" and > that alone is extreme enough. Honestly, that was one of the complaints > against him. I don't think white males are extremists--occasionally loud, > obnoxious and arrogant, maybe, but males are rarely extreme. It takes a > female to get that way, and we do so every month-you can count the days. > > So how "extreme" is John Ashcroft? > > In my opinion, looking over his record, he isn't anywhere near as "extreme" > as I am. He's a typical conservative Christian Republican. That, to me, is > more moderate than not. To the whiny loony left, it may seem "extreme"-but I > suspect that it appears awfully normal to them too, which is why they insist > on using the word "extreme" repetitiously. It's useful in making the TV > watching-world think that Ashcroft is somehow flawed when he is simply > rather normal. In certain parts of the country, that is. > > But then, I'm in with all the rest of the "red" (Bush) voters on the > election map. I'm sane, not quite what even I'd call normal, but I'm fairly > ordinary. Truck drivers hold my positions, truck drivers and lawyers, > sawmill guys, cooks, janitors, Senators, guys who ice-fish, small-town > office holders, my mom-you know, regular folks--everyone except the > privileged liberal lefties of the East and West Coasts. (Don't you love it > that the media saw fit to paint those of us who are more conservative than > they are as RED? And the Gore cities blue? Wasn't *that* cute?) > > Ashcroft supports the death penalty, and advised the Senate to reject the > nomination of Judge Ronnie White (who is black) because of White's > opposition to the death penalty. This was called "racist" by the left, > although many Republicans who voted against White's confirmation to the > federal judiciary didn't even know (or care) that White was black. "Racist" > is another of the left's favorite accusations, right up there with > "extreme." > > I'm not only for the death penalty-it applies to convicted murderers, after > all, and unfortunately more rarely, to treasonous bastards-I'm also for > applying the death penalty with a certain rapidity. Certain being the > operative word. Take the convicted creep out back and shoot 'em. I might > fret a bit about "innocents" caught and set up by corrupt prosecutors, but I > wouldn't sweat it because it is rare, very rare. But for the caught and > convicted killers? Get rid of them. I don't want them around my > neighborhood, and frankly, if the "justice" system can't or won't deal with > them, sooner or later, regular folks will. > > Now that opinion and position is probably much more "extreme" than anything > Ashcroft would dare hold, don't you think? And I'm rather mild-mannered, if > I say so myself. > > Ashcroft opposes all abortions, even for rape and incest. Well, to be honest > here, I hold with one thing that President Clinton said, and I do so even > though I can't stand that corrupt sumbitch. Clinton once said that abortion > should be legal and rare. I have to agree with that. It should be legal, > because the power of the black market will ensure that abortionists will > still provide abortions even if they are not legal. We know that, because > that's the way it was pre-1973. History can be a reality-check after all, > rather than a liberal toy to play with. > > And abortion should be rare. Why women have taken to advocating this > position on what is basically death for a human being, and the most innocent > and defenseless human beings at that, is beyond me. Why women consider > abortion, the "right" to kill their unborn children, their highest "civil > right" makes no sense. Hellfire. Give women the right to vote, and next > thing you know, they have the "right" to kill if it gets in the way of their > law school education or getting their nails done. For now, women are not > allowed to kill their born children, or other full-grown adults, but give > 'em an inch and they'll go the mile. > > If anything, kick the abortion issue back to the states and localities where > it belongs. That way, if they want to, the Blues can keep killing all their > babies, and us Reds will keep and raise ours, thanks. This way, sooner or > later, sanity will come to the fore again, even if a generation delayed. > (How's that one on the extremity meter, folks? Am I hot or what?) > > Ashcroft supports regular folks carrying concealed guns. So do I. He wants > the regular folks to get permits from the State. I think they should just > make damn sure they're good shots and skip the permit business altogether. > Criminals use guns, the loony left shrieks. Well, yes, my feeble-minded > dears, they do, and that's why I do, too. Police are historians, they show > up *after* a crime, say, rape or murder. I, however, live in the present, > and I'd be there at that rape or murder as perchance victim-so I'll be there > armed, thanks very much. And the crime won't happen-except a criminal, one > of those people the left considers "oppressed," might get hurt. So put me in > the "extremist" category of people who'd rather shoot the creep than get > raped. > > Ashcroft had the audacity to speak at Bob Jones University. La-di-dah and ho > hum. My niece wanted to *attend* Bob Jones, precisely for the strictness of > its conservative Christian rules. I told her it'd probably be too strict, > and she said that she wanted to go to a university to study and to learn and > anything that furthered her in that goal was welcomed-strict rules on > behavior could only help her focus on her studies. Now, you want an > extremist, talk to my niece! On second thought, don't. You might then think > I come from a long line of extremists, and you might just be right. > > Wing, that is. You know, regular folks. The "Red" majority. > > Ashcroft is against hate crime laws-and I certainly am. "Hate crimes" is a > totalitarian government's wet dream. 'Nuff said. If you feel a desire to > further your education on the matter, read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's _The > Gulag Archipelago_. You are a lazy coward if you won't at least do that, and > yes, I hate you. Hate crimes are political crimes, which the Soviet Union > punished far more severely than ordinary crimes such as rape, murder or > stealing from the Russian people. "Hate"-taken out of its political context, > is nothing more than another dreary emotional state that takes away your > ability to think straight. "Love" does the same thing. Both are extreme. > > Are we having fun yet? > > There are plenty of things I disagree with Ashcroft on. I don't care for > some of his decisions or his votes either. But then, he's merely going to be > the Attorney General. He'll advise the president. So will every other > Cabinet member. And he's unlikely to say anything remotely like "Burn down > that church in Waco with everyone in it," like another Attorney General of > recent memory. So, I'm for Ashcroft. > > If the whiny loony left had their way, every cabinet post would be filled by > one of their own dyed-in-the-blood liberals. While it is amusing to watch > these particular Blues do their jumping-up-and-down, complaining schtick, > I'd like to see President Bush have the grown-up, man-size balls to tell > them "No." Just that, "No, you can't have your way." Wouldn't it be nice to > have an adult Republican in the highest office of the land again instead of > the complaining, corrupt adolescents of the Democratic left? > > If you ask me, it'd be an extreme relief. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: RITALIN REACTION TEXAS STYLE (fwd) Date: 17 Jan 2001 14:35:11 PST Looks like the Texas stats may get interesting..... On Jan 17, Huck wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Anyone still reading this stuff? Huck Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 8:49 PM > RITALIN REACTION TEXAS STYLE The best adverse reaction to RITALIN seen yet!! > http://www.geocities.com/abcolombo/trada/texas.htm > > By Bob Manfull TRADA Admin. > > Not long after the massacre at Columbine School in Colorado, the State > Board of Education sent a memo to all teachers in the state suggesting they > ease up a bit on breaking laws against practicing medicine without a > license and intimidation. It had been SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) > in Colorado, and every other state, for teachers to pressure parents to > have their kids "tested" to see which dangerous mind bending drug for "ADD" > (Attention Deficit Disorder) would "SUB" (Subdue Unwanted Behavior) best. > > Ritalin has been at the top of the charts for years. It is now rapidly > being replaced by Adderal, Concerta, Paxil, Prozac and other drugs even > more harmful than Ritalin. What was PT Barnum's second most famous > quote? "Never underestimate the stupidity of the America People." > > Texas is known for doing things bigger but this time they did it > better. The State BOE (Board of Education) passed a resolution November 2, > 2000 that even Ranger Cordell Walker, Dr. Ron Paul, Zig Ziglar and > Dr. John Breeding would gladly enforce. After the 12 WHEREAS paragraphs > the second resolved states: "RESOLVED. That the State Board of Education > encourage local boards and superintendents to require local school > personnel to use proven academic and/or management solutions to resolve > behavior, attention, and learning difficulties. The State Board of > Education suggests that programs such as tutoring, vision testing, phonics, > nutritional guidance, medical examinations, allergy testing, standard > disciplinary procedures, and other remedies known to be effective and > harmless be recommended to parents as their options...." > > My first reaction was WOW!! and Amen. This is great! I hope it will > spread to every state. Look at the phrase "effective and harmless." I can > picture more schools adding Zig's "I can" program to curriculum. It has > proven effective and harmless for over 20 years. I can see the Ten > Commandments back. They have been effective and harmless for over 3,000 > years. They might even let the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts back. To > restore, or even slow down a progressive degenerative process, it always > takes going back. Wood shop has always done more for young women than so > called "sex-education." Hang on to that phrase: "remedies known to be > effective and harmless." > > Did you notice they even mentioned "Nutritional guidance?" Why? Back up to > their whereas #9: Whereas, up to one million school aged children in Texas > are taking psychiatric drugs...." When we look real close at the > nutritionally void, toxic-laden, so-called food, the average child ingests > at breakfast and lunch we should expect high risk for many degenerative > diseases as well as "chemical imbalances in the brain." > > Here is the challenge and the opportunity. Teaching "nutritional guidance" > is not like teaching English or math. It won't matter how good the > textbooks are if Pepsi and tadertots what's for lunch. If mom shows a slid > presentation by Dr. Miitra Ray or the Mayo Clinic every morning for > breakfast it won't mean a thing. It won't change anything. Nutrition is > something we learn hands on, or should I say "lips on." It is like a man > with a champion coon dog that was only fed turnip greens. His friend asked > how he ever taught his hound to eat turnip greens, he replied, "Well, the > first couple of weeks he wouldn't touch 'em." > > There is a combination of 3 specific food items that cost less than two > dollars yet has helped thousands of children get off the psychiatric drugs. > Thousands more have been prevented from even starting on: Adderal, Ritalin, > Concerta, Paxil, Clonidine, Prozac, Zoloft, Cylert, Luvox, St. Johns wort, > mega vitamins, and other dangerous substances by adding these 3 foods at > breakfast and lunch. It takes 30 seconds, does not interfere with anything > else on the menu and children do not complain about the taste. It is a > remedy known to be effective. It is a remedy known to be harmless. It is > a remedy that is inexpensive, efficacious, convenient and tastes > good. I'll be happy to tell every board of education, every teacher and > every parent all about it. I can teach, you can learn, but it won't mean a > thing till someone does it. > > THE TEXAS TWO-STEP STUDY STEP ONE: > > Select 5 elementary schools in 5 different districts and arrange that one > first grade class in each participate in a test. You will need one trusted > test coordinator and a 3 person evaluation team. The "E" teacm will > evaluate 10 different first grade classes, before and after the 60 day > test, but can not have prior knowledge of which 5 get "the independent > variables." > > It will take parent participation because every child in each of the 5 > selected first grade classes will need to be given the special food item at > breakfast and at lunch. Actually just before lunch for the convenience of > the teachers. You might consider Dr. John Breeding as one of the 3 on the > "E" team. > > The children in these classes who are already being drugged with Ritalin or > something will not be treated any differently. The medical Doctors and/or > psychologists who's care they are under must NOT know of the test. This is > critical because E-team will also evaluate their objective observations. > The objectivity of those Doctors must be preserved. The cost here will be > about 80 cents per child per school day but the long-term savings could be > much more. > > The null-hypothesis here is that improved nutrition will cause no > significant observable improvement in social behavior, general health or > academic grades of first grade children. If disproved, you will not only > have learned something, you will have a positive program to implement. I > will help. > > STEP TWO: > > This step can be done simultaneously using the same or a different > E-team. In each of 2 different districts 50% of the 9th and 10th graders, > who are currently being medicated for ADD, ADHD, Social anxiety, > Depression, Oppositional Defiance disorder, bi-polar, etc., will be asked > with their parents and doctors to participate in a 90 day test. > > The cost here might be closer to $1.50 but again the rewards could be far > beyond that. You'll notice on this research the Doctors have to have the > knowledge up front. The independent variables here will include 2 > different food items. The goal will be to see if a significant number of > these students can be weaned off the drugs. Call me, Bob Manfull, at > 330-455-7583 and will discuss results. > > Whether Texas decides to do either test or not, I truly thank Rosie Collins > Sorrerlls, Chase Untemeyer and all members of the Texas State Board of > Education for taking a bold step. I really think they "took the bull by > the horns." I sure wish to see Ohio and other states follow in their > footsteps and together we can "arrest the psychiatric police." The Texas > resolution is printed in its entirety on > http://www.GiantKillers.Org. Please print it out and give it to your school. > > Additional Sources: > > WallBuilders > http://www.wallbuilders.com > > Juice Plus > http://www.juiceplus.com > > EAGLECROSS ALLIANCE > http://www.eaglecross.net > > Biblebelievers.com > http://www.biblebelievers.com > > The Wildest Colts Make the Best Horses > http://www.wildestcolts.com > > Texas Board of Education Resolution > http://www.geocities.com/abcolombo/trada/tex-res.htm > > Information Menu > http://www.geocities.com/abcolombo/trada/menu.htm#menu > > Main Menu: > www.GiantKillers.Org [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: {slick-d} HELP (fwd) Date: 17 Jan 2001 22:11:57 PST On Jan 17, Connie, wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] BlankMy sixteen year old adopted son is bipolar and was placed on probation for a manic episode prior to being properly diagnosed and medicated. (I was the alleged victim; I filed no complaint, but prosecution took place against my wishes anyway.) There have been a series of injustices, too numerous to list here, that have worsened his emotional state. I have only had custody of this child three years; he was removed from family of origin, by *Children's Protective Services,* November, 1997. His psychiatrist has recommended that he be placed in a Residential Treatment Center. Probation dictators tell me that I must have an attorney draw up an *Agreed Court Order* for this to take place. I have no attorney and no money as I am unable to work in the usual workforce due to supervising this child. I know the probation department could draw up paperwork in order to do what is in this child's best interest, but they seem to prefer to create criminals. When this child was incarcerated, we were denied legal assistance, and hewas locked up in Dallas County Juvenile Detention for three weeks with no meds. I tried to get him to a hospital, fighting their lawless system. He became suicidal and has a self-inflicted bite wound scar. (Self-inflicted bite wound is documented in his subsequent release paperwork from Timberlawn Mental Health Hospital.) This was all against the Texas Family Code, but I have been unable to find an attorney interested in pursuing the civil rights issues. I really need an attorney to assist with getting this child in Juliette Fowler RTC. They are prepared to accept him and are working with me, as is his psychiatrist. I also need an attorney who will pursue the civil rights violations perpetrated by these lawless dictators. This child has been in Special Education in the government schools, listed as *emotionally disturbed,* since third grade, while still with family of origin. Therefore, he has a history that qualifies him under Americans with Disabilities Act and any other disability laws. Another option would be for someone to assist or direct me in preparing the *Agreed Court Order.* Thank you, Connie M., Friend occupied Texas city of Irving [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: "National Day of Repudiation of Jesse Jackson." (fwd) Date: 17 Jan 2001 22:13:57 PST On Jan 17, {USER_FIRSTNAME} {USER_LASTNAME} wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Monday, January 16, 2001 Jesse Jackson 'repudiated' at annual event 'We had more black Americans there than we did last year' by Julie Foster A crowd gathered outside a California office of the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition yesterday celebrated the second annual "National Day of Repudiation of Jesse Jackson." Sponsored by the Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny, or BOND, crowd members at the Los Angeles event held signs reading, "Don't hate, repudiate," "Jesse Jackson is a racist" and "Audit Jackson." Former Reform Party vice-presidential nominee Ezola Foster was again a featured speaker, as were many of last year's participants. Joining the list of speakers this year was Barbara Coe of the California Coalition for Immigration Reform. BOND founder Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson organized the event in keeping with his pledge to "hold this event every year until Jesse Jackson repents of his ways and stops attempting to tear the races apart for his own personal gain." Jackson's office is housed in the same prestigious office building as EMI Records, and security was present during the two-hour event, held from noon to 2 p.m. "Today was a good day," Peterson told WorldNetDaily just 90 minutes after the protest had concluded. "We had a little over a hundred people there and speakers from across the country. It was much improved from last year. There are more American people getting involved. People from outside Los Angeles came." Both blacks and whites protested outside Jackson's office. "We had more black Americans there than we did last year," Peterson noted. "They have been told a lie now for 40 years, and now they're hearing the truth." BOND's founder believes "people are seeing Jesse Jackson running around like a madman, angry about losing the election," and are concerned about Jackson's "fear of losing power." "We're going to do it every year until Jesse Jackson repents," he stressed. Asked for response to the event, a spokeswoman for Jackson said she would consult with him and get back to WorldNetDaily. Peterson outlines the reasons for his disapproval of Jackson and other "self-appointed" civil rights leaders, as he refers to them, in his book, "From Rage to Responsibility." In it, Peterson says black Americans are being held captive by a message of anger promoted by Jackson and others. Julie Foster is a staff reporter for WorldNetDaily.com. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21355 Archibald Bard Pro Libertate - For Freedom ICQ 83834746 Keep And Bear Arms http://www.keepandbeararms.com INFOWARS.com, a Presentation of the Energetic Alex Jones http://www.infowars.com/index.html In the immortal words of Yeshua the Messiah (most call Him Jesus) "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that you might have life, and that you might have it more abundantly." -- St. John 10:10. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: more votes needed MOST HATEFUL WOMAN IN AMERICA TODAY POLL (fwd) Date: 17 Jan 2001 23:18:20 PST On Jan 17, Carl William Spitzer wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In your opinion, which of the following is the most hateful woman in America today. Pick only one please! Total : 259 Janet Reno **** 17.4% Hillary Clinton *********** 54.4% * Maxine Waters *** 14.3% Rosie O'Donnell *** 13.9% http://www.pollnow.com/Qus/QusDisp.cgi?QusID=122419 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE (fwd) Date: 20 Jan 2001 17:18:40 PST On Jan 20, Donald Blackburn wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE > > > The Electoral College process was developed to give > the rural areas and the > city areas equal status in the selection of the top > position in our > government. Today it still remains a question of > whether the rural areas of > the nation continue to elect the president and vice > president or do we > change the Electoral College process and provide a > process for the large > metropolitan areas to elect the president by the > popular vote? > > Consider this, if a popular person from a large > metropolitan area such as > Hillary Clinton for example, decided to run for the > United States Senate in > New York because she loves the people of that state > and wanted to represent > them in Washington D.C. > In one of her first public statements after winning > the election (with > nearly 60% of the vote), she promised to work for > the abolition of the > Electoral College. > Now look at a political possibility: > In an election year in the 'not too distant future', > when Hillary is > nominated as the Democrats' Presidential Candidate, > she begins her campaign > by reminding the voters of New York that she kept > her promise and personally > takes responsibility for the newly ratified > constitution amendment > abolishing the Electoral College. She then does the > vast majority of her > campaigning in New York; rarely venturing out to any > other state. > The November General Election is held, and Senator > Clinton LOSES 49 STATES > by an average of 60,000 votes per state... BUT, she > WINS JUST ONE STATE... > New York, with 73% of the 6,300,000 votes cast > there. The Republican > candidate receives 24% and all others 3%. > The result? She has received the majority of > popular votes by a margin of > less than 200,000 votes nationwide... after LOSING > ALL BUT ONE STATE. > Hillary Rodham Clinton is the new President of The > United States of America. > STILL want to get rid of the Electoral College? > Think about it! > Scary--huh!! > Here are a few interesting statistics from our > breakdown map of > counties won by George Bush and Albert Gore > ( http://www.federalist.com/e2000.html) as compiled > by law professor > Joseph Olson. The last item is, perhaps, the most > telling. > > Counties won by Bush: 2,434 > Counties won by Gore: 677 > > > > > Population of counties won by Bush: 143 million > Population of counties won by Gore: 127 million > > Square miles of country won by Bush: 2,427,000 > Square miles of country won by Gore: 580,000 > > States won by Bush: 29 > States won by Gore: 19 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: New Toys (fwd) Date: 21 Jan 2001 09:51:15 PST On Jan 21, Mark Aiello wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Monday, December 4, 2000 Go to: S M T W T F S The FBI put a keystroke-logging device on the computer of the gambling suspect. A challenge may create new law. By George Anastasia INQUIRER STAFF WRITER A federal gambling case against the son of jailed mob boss Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo could instead be the first legal test of cutting-edge cyber-surveillance technol- ogy that some critics of federal investigations say borders on Big Brotherism. Court records in the pending case indicate that Nicode- mo S. Scarfo, 35, was the target of a sophisticated sur- veillance tool - a so-called keystroke-logging device - that allowed the FBI to reproduce every stroke he entered on a computer on which gambling records allegedly were stored. Scarfo subsequently was charged with supervising a mob- linked bookmaking and loan-sharking operation in North Jersey. Questions about the FBI's spying methods in the Scarfo investigation surface at a time when defense lawyers and civil libertarians have begun to ask how far federal author- ities should be permitted to go with electronic surveil- lance. Critics say that technology is evolving faster than the laws governing privacy rights and that federal investi- gators, emboldened by the capabilities of their cyber-tools, frequently disregard constitutional guarantees. "Anything he typed on that keyboard - a letter to his lawyer, personal or medical records, legitimate business records - they got it all," said Donald Manno, Scarfo's longtime lawyer. "That's scary. It's dangerous," he said. Said Alan Hart, a former IRS agent and private investi- gator who teaches criminal justice at Burlington County College: "This doesn't 'smack' of Big Brotherism, it hits you over the head like a baseball bat." Hart, after hearing a description of the capabilities of a keystroke recorder, called it "Orwellian." "It's another example of the FBI taking technology to its limits and possibly over the line of what's legally permissible," said David Sobel, general counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center, a Washington nonprof- it research group that focuses on Internet- and computer- privacy issues. The FBI would not comment. Assistant U.S. Attorney Ronald D. Wigler, the prosecutor in the case, said only that he expected the FBI's surveillance methods would be challenged in a pretrial defense motion and that arguments could establish new case law. "I can't talk about any of it," he said, "but I think it's correct to say this is [a] cutting-edge [legal issue]." Manno contends that federal investigators improperly used a search warrant as authorization to install a key- stroke recorder on Scarfo's business computer in the spring of 1999. By monitoring the keyboard during May and June, investigators were able to determine the code and password Scarfo used to access an encrypted program in which, author- ities suspected, he was storing gambling and loan-sharking records. Manno said that he was preparing a motion challenging the legality of the surveillance when he was disqualified from the case in October. Manno was barred because in the past he represented a client who is expected to testify for the government against Scarfo. He said he expected the challenge to the surveillance will be raised by whomever Scarfo hires to replace him. "I don't think there is any case law on this issue, and I hope the fact that it's a so-called organized crime inves- tigation doesn't detract from the fundamental and overriding concern here, which is an individual's right to privacy," Manno said last week. Sobel, who has tracked similar issues for the privacy- information center, said techniques used in the Scarfo investigation raised many of the same privacy concerns that he and others have raised over another of the FBI's surveil- lance tools, the e-mail monitoring device known as Carni- vore. The Carnivore system, which also has attracted congres- sional critics, allows investigators to monitor e-mail messages sent to or by a targeted individual. The Scarfo case, he said, is the first in which he has seen references to the use of the keystroke recorder. "Like Carnivore, this is the FBI using investigative technology that goes beyond existing law," he said. Wiretap laws, for example, regulate how and when phone lines and rooms can be "bugged." But those laws, aimed at the electronic interception of oral communication, do not speak to the new technology. A wiretap or room bug also would have required authori- zation from the Attorney General's Office as well as court approval, defense lawyers say. And it would have required investigators to "minimize" - not record or listen to - conversations unrelated to the focus of the investigation. In the Scarfo case, the FBI used general search war- rants authorized by Magistrate G. Donald Haneke to break into a business office in Belleville, Essex County, to plant a keystroke recorder. Investigators believed that Scarfo and an associate were using the business, Merchants Services, which leases machines, software and other equipment for credit-card processing, as a front for a bookmaking and loan-sharking operation. The application for the authorization, submitted by Wigler, contended that as "there will be no wire, oral or electronic communications captured," federal wiretap laws did not apply. The court order, however, did authorize the FBI to "install and leave behind software, firmware, and/or hard- ware equipment which will monitor the inputted data entered on Nicodemo S. Scarfo's computer by recording the key- related information as they are entered." Authorities would not describe which types of devices were used in the investigation. "It's not something we would want to comment on," said Sandy Carroll, a spokeswoman for the FBI in Newark. Experts in electronic surveillance said there are at least three types of keystroke-logging devices. There is software that can be loaded onto a computer. There is an attachment that can be linked to the port where the keyboard line enters the computer. And there is a "bug" that can be put inside the keyboard. The bug is the most effective and least likely to be discovered, said James Atkinson, head of Granite Island Group, a private electronic security and surveillance firm in Gloucester, Mass. The device, Atkinson said, is about the size of a sugar cube. "It weighs a few grams, and unless you . . . routi- nely weighed your keyboard, you'd never notice," he said. Battery-powered and able to recharge itself off the computer, a good keystroke-logging device can store up to 32 million keystrokes, Atkinson said. Typically, information from the device would be down- loaded from a remote location, he said, and the downloading process could take seconds to minutes. The result would be a "mirror" of whatever was tapped into the keyboard. According to court documents, the FBI resorted to the keystroke-logging device after it was frustrated in an attempt to obtain gambling records from a Scarfo computer. Agents first seized a computer from Scarfo's business in January 1999 but were unable to get access to one of the programs in which they suspected gambling records were stored because it was encrypted. Unlike many of his mob contemporaries, Scarfo is com- puter-literate - Manno calls him a "geek." He once worked for a Florida software company. In 1989, when he was wound- ed in a gangland shooting in South Philadelphia, he was carrying a laptop computer that police said contained extor- tion records. In the current case, investigators obtained court authorization for break-ins at Scarfo's business office in May and June and, at some point, planted the keystroke recorder. Later in June, the FBI raided the office, arrested Scarfo and his associate, and seized the computer. Scarfo was allegedly supervising part of a $5-million- a-year mob bookmaking operation with ties to the Gambino crime family, according to court records. His trial, origi- nally scheduled for this month, has been delayed at least until he finds a new lawyer. Manno would not discuss what his client was storing on the encrypted program but said Scarfo was using software known as PGP. "It stands for Pretty Good Privacy," the lawyer said with a chuckle. George Anastasia's http://inq.philly.com/content/inquirer/2000/12/04/front_page/JMOB04.htm [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: larry ball Subject: [Fwd: USA Saab supports anti hunting group] Date: 21 Jan 2001 12:47:39 -0600 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C9B611EDE7E73AE49C7313CE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------C9B611EDE7E73AE49C7313CE Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Received: by pigeon (mbox lball) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.22 1998/04/11) Sun Jan 21 12:21:58 2001) X-From_: list-errors.700004454.0.702106604.004@boing.topica.com Fri Jan 19 18:48:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from outmta003.topica.com (outmta003.topica.com [206.132.75.200]) by pigeon.inebraska.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA01571 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:48:09 -0600 (CST) Lemieux Pierre , Cypherpunks , Liberty Free Press , =?iso-8859-1?q?Le_Qu=E9becois_Libre?= , Canadian Firearm Digest , "QuackGrass.com" , "Paul Richards' - Offshore Haven Newsletter" , Patriot on Guard , "Nilsphone@aol.com" , "N. 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You are receiving this because you subscribed at <= /a> To Unsubscribe: just click on enter your email address, click on unsubscribe button American Gunsmithing Institute 1325 Imola Ave #504 Napa, CA 94559 (800) 797-0867 www.americangunsmith.com =93Knowledge is the only instrument of production that is not subject to diminishing returns.=94 J.M. Clark INDUSTRY NEWS Korth Folds! German firearms manufacturer Korth has gone out of business. Anyone who h= as seen one of their high-end pistols knows that these were very high qualit= y. Unfortunately hand fitted high quality, while often missed, no longer pay= s enough to keep those manufacturers around. Make a note: Parts for these g= uns were always scarce, and must be hand fitted. High Power Production Ends! Browning has discontinued the manufacture of the High Power, stating that= it was just too expensive to produce compared to the retail price. (Read NO PROFIT MARGIN). 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The restoration of guns is a touchy subject with some, because of the longstanding practice of seeing originality as being an integral part of value. When a highest quality Fox double is overhauled in America, Americ= an traditional gun collectors see its value disappearing fast. When a highes= t quality Holland and Holland double is overhauled in England, though, the owner would probably argue that something beneficial has happened to it, = and value has been added, not taken away. If we look at a gun in such a condition that it may require work, there = are liable to be two schools of thought. If that gun is being sold on the bas= is of its rarity, the condition of it may come as part of that rarity. All t= oo often, people in the business of keeping and shooting their guns may not realize that this is at least partly what lies behind the traditional collector resistance to any alteration of condition. But how realistic is= it to keep this point of view? If we were to buy a 7.65 semi-auto pistol tha= t we reasonably believe was found in Adolph Hitler=92s bunker with one roun= d missing, souvenired by a Russian soldier, it would be the history we woul= d be seeking in the purchase. That would mean we would not want to rechambe= r it, or convert it to a more useful caliber. In this case, the history wou= ld greatly override any other aspect the gun might have, such as the functional. Most of us, though, when we buy a gun, are not seeking history, but purchase either solely with the intention of use, or for collecting reaso= ns, or for the possibly more common motivation that combines these two, where= we intend to use it but we also hope that the piece will retain as much valu= e as possible. A lot of trouble comes when people are not clear on these natural divisions. Let=92s try to separate them out and see what we can glean fro= m there about whether a gun should be restored. First, the pure collectors already know who they are and what they=92re doing. If the aim is to collect, say, derringers from 1860 to 1900, there= is probably going to be no question of a need for heavy refurbishment. The market drives this. It sets its own rules and we obey them. These are collector pieces and that means collectors will set the running. Where the guns concerned are strictly utilitarian, also, chambered for modern ammunition and suitable for daily use, the position reverses. The need for daily repairs should be obvious. Would we buy a modern under and over shotgun with, say, the Browning name on it, for use at trap, and decline to replace a top lever spring because an aftermarket spring would ruin the originality? This idea is so far-fetched it seems foolish, but i= t has clear parallels in collecting, too. Let=92s say a .450-hammered double rifle from before the end of the last century had been taken to Africa and shot at dangerous game. Let=92s assu= me it had been dropped on its last day there before being brought home to langu= ish under a bed before a lucky collector had stumbled across it. Would its broken hammer, sustained in that fall, be sufficient history to justify t= he new owner stopping the gun from being repaired and restored to original condition? Probably there are few people who would say so, because the function of = the gun would be so dependent on the hammer being repaired. A double rifle wi= th only one usable barrel is tantamount to being half a rifle. If we consider this as being repairs necessary to the good function of t= hat gun, which after all is something of a rarity, perhaps we ought to think = of the repairs that routinely need to be made to other guns in order for the= m to be functional, too. Trouble is, as soon as we do this, we then come up with a need to classi= fy guns differently, because not all are going to justify the price of intricate repairs. A cheap pump action shotgun designed for use on a farm= is worthy of basic repairs, such as the replacement of springs, but obviousl= y it runs out of restoration potential fairly early. There is also no guarantee that other collectors and shooters would do more than reach par= t or occasional agreement about where the cut-off lines of restoration actually lie. One point should be made, however. The makers of best quality double gun= s and rifles had every intention that their guns should be overhauled, and = not just occasionally, either. A gun traditionally called =93best=94 was prod= uced with the best available materials and design, the cost of labor no object. Hence, servicing of highest quality guns meant that as they were returned= to their European or English makers, whatever was needed to keep them in perfect condition was done as a matter of routine. This included not only repairing small, honest scars such as barrel dents, but also rebluing, rejointing and anything else that might need to be done. Best guns were designed to be worked hard and it would be very unrealistic to think that their makers expected them to keep their new shine beyond the first game season. With American guns, placed more in the middle of the quality road, and m= ade in larger numbers with more machine involvement, it is easy to understand why a collector could be profoundly moved by coming on a piece in near-perfect original condition, but on the other hand be not very excite= d at all at the prospect of yet another that had been reblued and given a n= ew fore-end. Such guns were made for common shooting tasks and were subject = to the knocks of the field. When found in finest original condition they are collectable items on that account. For most of us, though, it is not a realistic expectation to stumble on something of this sort any more than rarely, and when we do what we have in the hand has less to do with guns = and shooting than it has to do with history. This outlines directly the philosophical difference between those two groups today, on the one hand those who feel obliged to repair and bring their guns up to the mark for shooting purposes, and on the other those w= ho want to collect pristine artifacts and continue to see only lost value in repairs. There is a good case for now, at this stage of history, mentally narrowi= ng down the group of guns which should never be touched, and widening the gr= oup that we should be happy to have worked on to bring them up to standard. When English makers of nearly a century ago had the opportunity, they ke= pt up their mystique by keeping alive the notion that when a competitor overhauled one of their guns, something had been lost. In a competitive market they continuously tried to keep alive the idea that they had speci= al techniques of manufacture that contributed intangible advantages to their products. This process was driven by marketing imperatives, and has very little basis in fact. Yes, someone=92s single trigger mechanism, for inst= ance, would be best repaired in-house. But that can=92t be said of the standard tightening or regulating procedures, which applied everywhere. A lot of angst boils up over the restoration of old doubles. In reality, double guns are exercises in managed and controlled wear on sites of know= n mechanical stress. This means a maintenance requirement is normal, and no= t to be held against a gun unless because of design faults it is required t= oo often. It should be only a matter of time till American collectors have grown comfortable with this idea, and how long it takes will revolve arou= nd the drying up of the pool of 'original' guns. When that elusive historical-cum-rare gun is more unprocurable because of the passage of time, there will still be people paying big (and maybe eve= n bigger) money for it, as they would for General Custer=92s hat, but they should=92ve been heavily overtaken in numbers by intelligent shooter-collectors who=92ve worked out that good quality in their guns ma= kes for good quality in their shooting and their enjoyment. This latter group won=92t mind intelligent repair at all, because the makers of good guns h= ave always known that repair is part and parcel of gun maintenance. Many connoisseurs see fine guns in terms of function long before style. T= o these people, repairing, replacing and altering are inevitable in the process of securing and improving a gun's performance. But isn=92t this t= he same as the trap shooter who needs to work on a stock to shift point of impact, or a varmint shooter who can=92t get the necessary accuracy with anything short of a full custom trigger job, or a Rimfire accuracy buff w= ho has to have a chamber re-cut? In a way, then, there may be little difference between people having goo= d gun repairs done, regardless of whether they=92re working on classic or utilitarian firearms. There is, however, one vital aspect to this discussion: the work must always be worthy of the gun in question. When t= he gun is expensive and the work is cheap or inappropriate, then an experien= ced gun fancier would consider that to be damage. When the gun is cheap and t= he work is expensive, then that=92s nothing but waste. In other words, whatever restoration has been carried out to a working g= un really needs to be in keeping with the usual perimeters of the work of th= e maker and the era or possibly the style. Here is where the experienced collector finds his horror stories - the finest walnut stock cut off to eleven inches, the best chopper lump barrels cut off leaving true cylinde= rs, the short chambers inappropriately re-cut. Butchery comes in many guises. Nothing should be done to a valuable gun that offends the usual style of = the maker. It isn=92t hard to sum up: there is usually no real argument against intelligent gun repairs and modifications, as long as they are appropriat= e, and in the process history is not offended or genuine rarity harmed. LET US KNOW! Do articles like this interest you? Would you like to see more of these, = and technique specific articles in this newsletter? Send your opinions to kconkle@pacbell.net We are trying our best to make this the best gunsmithing newsletter in existence. We are happy to use any contributions regarding tips, techniqu= es, industry news, and articles of interest. Submissions also need to be forwarded to kconkle@pacbell.net FREE CATALOG! Our latest catalog is now available. It's 24 full color pages describing = of all the AGI products. Order your copy today! 800-797-0867. PASS THIS ON TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS! 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AGREEMENT BETWEEN SMITH & WESSON AND
THE DEPARTMENTS OF THE TREASURY AND HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT,
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND STATES

SUMMARY OF TERMS

Preamble: The city, state, county and federal parties agree to dis= miss the parties from the pending suits and refrain from filing suits aga= inst the manufacturer parties based on an equivalent cause of action.

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SAFETY AND DESIGN

All handguns must meet the following safety and design standar= ds:

  • Second "hidden" serial number, to prevent criminals from o= bliterating serial numbers.
  • External locking device sold with all guns within 60 days.
  • Internal locking device on all guns within 24 months.
  • Smart Guns -- Authorized User Technology.
    • Manufacturers commit 2% of annual firearms revenues to the develo= pment of authorized user technology.
    • Within 36 months, authorized user technology will be included in all = new firearm models, with the exception of curios and collectors=92= firearms.
    • If top eight manufacturers agree, authorized user technology will be = included in all new firearms.
  • Child Safety. Within 12 months, handguns will be designed so t= hey cannot be readily operated by a child under 6.
  • Performance test. All firearms will be subject to a performanc= e test to ensure safety and quality.
  • Drop test. All firearms will be subject to a test to ensure th= ey do not fire when dropped.

All pistols must meet the following additional requirements:

  • Safety device. Positive manually operated safety device.
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  • Magazine disconnectors must be available on all pistols to cus= tomers who desire the feature, within 12 months.
  • Chamber load indicators on all pistols, showing whether the pi= stol is loaded, within 12 months.
  • Large capacity magazines. New firearm designs will not be able= to accept large-capacity magazines that were manufactured prior to Septe= mber 1994. (Manufacture of such magazines has been prohibited since that = date.)

Law enforcement and military exception. If law enforcement agen= cies or the military certify the need, exceptions to these requirements m= ay be made. Manufacturers will ask that these guns not be resold to the c= ivilian market.

Warnings about safe storage and handling included with all fire= arms within six months.

Illegal firearms. Manufacturers will not sell firearms that can= readily be converted into fully automatic weapons or that are resistant = to fingerprints.

 

SALES AND DISTRIBUTION

Code of Conduct. The manufacturers will sell only to authorized= dealers and distributors and allow their authorized distributors to sell= only to authorized dealers. Authorized dealers and distributors will agr= ee to a code of conduct. If manufacturers receive notice of a violation b= y an authorized dealer or distributor, they will take action against the = dealer or distributor, including termination of sales to the dealer or di= stributor. The Oversight Commission will review such actions and have aut= hority to require termination or suspension if warranted.

The code of conduct will require authorized dealers and distributors t= o:

  • Gun shows: make no gun show sales unless all sales at t= he gun show are completed only after a background check.
  • Brady checks: wait as long as necessary for a completed Brady = check showing that the purchaser is not a felon or otherwise prohibited b= efore selling a gun to the purchaser.
  • Safety training for purchasers: transfer firearms only to indi= viduals who have passed certified safety course or exam and demonstrate t= o purchasers how to use all safety devices and how to load, unload, and s= afely store the firearm before completing the sale.
  • Multiple handgun sales: all purchasers of multiple handguns to= take only one handgun from the store on the day of sale, at which point = a multiple sales report will be filed with ATF. The remainder of the guns= can only be collected after 14 days.
  • Employee training: require all employees to attend ATF-approve= d training and to pass a exam on firearms laws, straw purchasers, illegal= trafficking indicators, and gun safety.
  • Insurance: carry liability insurance where available, with a m= inimum coverage of $1 million for each incident.
  • Inventory control: maintain an electronic inventory tracking p= lan within 24 months
  • Security: implement a security plan for securing firearms.
  • Child access: require persons under 18 to be accompanied by ad= ults in gun stores or gun sections of stores.
  • Weapons attractive to criminals: not sell large capacity magaz= ines or semiautomatic assault weapons.
  • Compliance: provide law enforcement, government regulators, an= d the Oversight Commission established in this Agreement with access to d= ocuments necessary to determine compliance; cooperate fully in the Agreem= ent=92s Oversight mechanism.
  • Crime gun traces: maintain an electronic record of all ATF tra= ce requests and report trace requests to manufacturers.
  • Indicted dealers: forgo firearms sales to licensed dealers kno= wn to be under indictment.
  • Straw purchasers: not to make sales to straw purchasers.
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    Manufacturer commitments. Manufacturers will:

    • Provide quarterly sales data to ATF.
    • Not market guns in any manner designed to appeal to juveniles or crim= inals.
    • Refrain from selling any modified/sporterized semi-automatic pistol o= f type that cannot be imported into U.S.
    • Reaffirm policy of not placing advertisements in vicinity of schools,= high crime zones, and public housing.
    • Implement a security plan for securing firearms.
    • Designate an officer to ensure compliance with the Agreement.

      • Corporate responsibility for crime gun traces. If an authorized= dealer or distributor has a disproportionate number of crime guns traced= to it within three years of sale, the manufacturers will take action, in= cluding possible termination or suspension, against the dealer or distrib= utor. The Oversight Commission will review such actions and have authorit= y to require termination or suspension if warranted.

      Oversight Commission will be established and empowered to overs= ee implementation of the Agreement. The Commission will have five members= selected as follows: one by manufacturers; two by city and county partie= s; one by state parties; one by ATF. The Commission=92s powers will inclu= de the authority to review compliance with the design and safety requirem= ents, review the safety and training program for dealer and distributor e= mployees, review manufacturer actions against dealers or distributors tha= t violate the Agreement or have a disproportionate number of crime gun tr= aces, and require suspension or termination if warranted.

      Role of ATF. To the extent consistent with law, ATF will work w= ith manufacturers and the Oversight Commission to assist them in meeting = obligations under the Agreement. ATF will notify the Oversight Commission= of certain violations of the Agreement by distributors and dealers if it= uncovers such violations.

      Ballistics Imaging. Within six months, if technologically avail= able, manufacturers will fire all firearms before sale and will enter the= digital image of the casings in a system compatible with the National In= tegrated Ballistics Identification Network and accessible to ATF. This wi= ll enable law enforcement to trace crime guns when only the bullets or ca= sings are recovered.

      Access 2000. Manufacturers shall participate in ATF=92s Access = 2000 program, which establishes electronic links with ATF and enables hig= h-speed tracing of crime guns.

      Legislation. The parties will work together to support legislat= ive efforts to reduce firearm misuse and the development of authorized us= er technology.

      Education trust fund. Upon resolution of all current city, stat= e, and county lawsuits, manufacturers will dedicate 1% of overall firearm= s revenues to an education trust fund.

      Most favored entity. If other manufacturers enter agreements wi= th more expansive design and distribution reforms, and those manufacturer= s, along with the manufacturer parties to this Agreement, account for fif= ty percent or more of United States handgun sales, the manufacturer parti= es to this Agreement will agree to abide by the same reforms.

      Enforcement. The Agreement will be entered into and enforceable= as a court order and as a contract.

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--------------59E8710C6A27C8995BA79F03-- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: A NOTE FROM FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL, EDWIN MEESE (fwd) Date: 22 Jan 2001 23:38:45 PST On Jan 22, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] A NOTE FROM FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL,EDWIN MEESE III,CHAIRMAN OF THE SCOUTING LEGAL DEFENSE FUND Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 18:26:11 -0700 From: postmaster@defendscouting.com Subject: A New Defend Scouting Newsletter! THE DEFEND SCOUTING NEWSLETTER JANUARY 12, 2001 A NOTE FROM FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL, EDWIN MEESE III, CHAIRMAN OF THE SCOUTING LEGAL DEFENSE FUND: Dear Friend of Scouting; For nearly a century, Scouting has helped millions of boys mature into responsible men and good citizens. Unfor- tunately, Scouting recently has come under increasing at- tack. We are launching this newsletter to help keep you informed about what is happening with Scouting around the country. A coalition of liberal activists, homosexuals, atheists and feminists were enraged last June when the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the Constitutional right of the Scouts to prevent openly homosexual men from serving as Scoutmasters. Since then, as you know, they have made the Scouts the target of their anger. I agreed to chair the Scouting Legal Defense Fund for two reasons. One was because there has never been a time when Scouting's positive influence has been more essential to our nation's future than it is today. But it was also clear to me that the Scouts are merely taking the brunt of what is a much broader assault. The same Constitutional rights of speech and association that protect the Scouts also protect tens of thousands of other groups and organiza- tions. We must never lose sight of the fact that all of these groups are the true target of this liberal coalition. So, in defending the Scouts we are also defending all of these other groups that together comprise the essential fabric of our country. I look forward to joining with you in this defense! Ed Meese Chairman, Scouting Legal Defense Fund A NOTE FROM THE EDITOR: Because the focus of the attacks on Scouting has shift- ed in recent months from the national level to the local level, most of us who are concerned about Scouting never hear about them. Equally important, most of us do not hear about the successful defense of Scouting which is also occurring in many local areas. The goal of this newsletter is to help remedy that. About every two weeks, we will give you a quick overview of some of the more significant and interesting developments around the country. Where possible, we will include a link to more detailed information. I also hope that you will help us make this newsletter even more useful. If the Scouts are under attack in your local area, please let us know so we can pass the word. Simply e-mail us at Click here . Thanks! Peter Ferrara Editor P.S. To learn more about the Scouting Legal Defense Fund, please visit our Web site, Defend Scouting.Com . -------------------------------------------------- WHAT'S HAPPENING TO SCOUTING AROUND THE COUNTRY... (Please note: For URL's longer than the line, simply paste the entire URL into your browser's address window.) ---Communities and school districts large and small are withdrawing support for the Scouts or facing lawsuits to force them to do so. The Los Angeles City Council adopted an anti-Scout ordinance which among other things ends police sponsorship of the Scouts and stops free use of meeting rooms in city facilities (article at Forum ). The New York City School Board has barred city schools from supporting scouting activities (article at: Click here . Mount Pleasant School District in Michigan has been sued in an effort to stop all school support of the Scouts because of their ban on admitting atheists (article at: Click here ). --And a large Jewish group also withdraws support of the Boy Scouts. Reform Jewish leaders are formally advising their membership, which constitutes about 40% of the nation's Jewish population, to stop sponsoring or financing Scout troops. ---However, strong public support and pressure has also forced some communities and school districts to reverse actions that hurt the Scouts. Tempe, Arizona had to reverse a policy that would have prevented city employees from contributing to the Scouts through the local United Way. Miami-Dade County, Florida school officials had to back off a ban on Scouts recruiting in schools (article at: Click here ). The Eugene, Oregon school district reversed a ban on the Scouts recruiting in the schools after receiving only about 100 calls, e-mails and letters from angry citizens (article at: Click here ). A state-wide poll in Illinois showed that 82% of regis- tered voters supported allowing the Scouts to continue to use schools and other public buildings (article at: Click here ). --The Salt Lake Olympic Organizing Committee refutes charges it is discriminating against the Boy Scouts. The organizing committee for the 2002 Winter Games, joined by the local scout councils, has refuted charges originally made in an Internet publication that it was banning Boy Scouts from volunteering to help with the games. (Article at: Click here ). ---Meanwhile, the Scouts stand firm. The national scout office rejected a request by its Providence, Rhode Island-based Narragansett Council to review the ban on homosexuals (article at: Click here . ---And, some thoughtful commentary on the attack on Scouting... "Un-American Activity? The Boy Scouts are Entitled to Their Own Moral Vision," by John Leo in U.S. News and World Report, October 23, 2000, (article at: Click here . Un-American Activity? We all know we have a fight on our hands, but I know in the end Scouting will win! Support your local Scouts! BOB EVANS NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER SURRENDER! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: PARDON THE SEVEN WACO PRISONERS (Suggested form letter for Presid... (fwd) Date: 23 Jan 2001 11:19:25 PST On Jan 23, DAnde1706@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 1/21/01 10:23:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, AWright191 writes: > In a message dated 01/21/2001 11:24:32 AM Central Standard Time, > spiker@ev1.net writes: > > << Please send the following e-mail to President Bush and Vice-President > Cheney. > Copy & paste it into a new e-mail form & insert your name & address at the > bottom. > Place the following e-mail addresses on the To: & Cc: lines > > To: President@whitehouse.gov > Cc: Vice-President@whitehouse.gov > > > PARDON THE SEVEN WACO PRISONERS > Renos Avraam > Brad Branch > Jaime Castillo > Graeme Craddock > Paul Fatta > Livingstone Fagan > Kevin Whitecliff > > Dear President Bush: > > We are most pleased to be able to call a man of honor by the title of > President in place of the ignoble William Jefferson Clinton! We welcome > you to the nation's Oval Office! > > And, now, to the matter at hand! > > On February 28, 1993 76 hyped-up agents of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, > Tobacco and Firearms staged a military-style assault on the Branch Davidian > church group outside of Waco, Texas. They shot the church's minister David > Koresh when he tried to talk to agents at the front door and mortally > wounded his unarmed father-in-law. (He'd invited "ATF" to inspect his guns > six months earlier!) Agents then proceeded to fire blindly at the building, > including from helicopters, even though they knew it contained mostly > women, children and the elderly. They killed five people inside and > ambushed and killed another outside a few hours later. Perhaps a dozen > desperate Davidians grabbed guns and started to shoot back to defend the > women and child- ren. Four ATF agents died. > > FBI agents had to avenge these deaths and protect ATF agents who could have > done prison time for killing innocent Americans if investigat- ors ever saw > the insides of the building. It contained copious evidence of illegal and > lethal agent gunfire, including from helicopters. The FBI had to destroy > the evidence. So agents conspired to frighten and insult the David- ians, > to keep as many "witnesses" to the killings in the building until they had > an excuse to do what they did on April 19th -- smash away at the building > with tanks until it caught fire, destroying the evidence and killing 76 > witnesses trapped inside. > > President Bill Clinton approved the raid and then prosecuted 11 Davidian > survivors for murder of agents. However, the jury saw through it all and > convicted only nine Davidians of what they thought were minor charges > (aiding and abetting voluntary manslaughter and weapons charges). > Jurors were shocked when the prejudiced judge sentenced nine to a total of > 238 years! > > In June 2000 the Supreme Court found that the judge had illegally imposed > 155 of those years and reduced them. However, seven Davidians remain in > prison with 15 year sentences (around 12.5 years with good behavior). > This is too long to serve for self-defense against a vicious military-style > attack on people who were prepared to cooperate with law enforcement. > > What we find most disheartening, Sir, is the plethora of evidence still in > existence which tends to disprove the BATF version of events. For > instance, the four agents killed died of injuries inflicted at close > range! How was this possible if the facts were as was widely > reported? Many questions have, as yet, remained unanswered or have been > dealt with in an inadequate manner! > > President Bush, You MUST Reverse the Crimes of the Clinton Administration > and Prove to Americans that you Will NOT Allow These Violations of Our > Rights to continue unabated! FREE THE DAVIDIAN PRISONERS! Restore justice > to the nation and honor to the Presidency of the United States of America! > > For Freedom, > > (Your name here) > (Your mailing address here) [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [Fratrum] (no subject) (fwd) Date: 23 Jan 2001 21:30:47 PST On Jan 23, Margi Crook wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] This made me think of Winston Smith. From the LIS-LEAF legal list. CATHERINE MILLARD RETURNS TO INDIANAPOLIS FEBRUARY 26-MARCH 3, 2001 - Indiana's sixth Christian heritage Week. Dr. Millard, author of "The Rewriting of America's Story" as well as other books, researches original documents and material which show the Christian nature and character of the government and the founders of this great country. She exposes the lies, distortions, and misrepresentations which are taught in the public school system as 'history'. She will be speaking at several yet-to-be-determined locations in the Indianapolis area. NOTE: Location is PENDING. We MAY host Dr. Millard at the regular Mon., Feb. 26th Legal Discussion Group meeting location on Franklin Rd. in Indy. CONTACT: Bob/Eva Boyd at boydb@tce.com or (317) 485-5064 for more info and the latest location information. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Watson Subject: JESSE JACKSON'S FINANCES (fwd) Date: 24 Jan 2001 11:04:06 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- JEWISH WORLD REVIEW Tue, 23 Jan 2001 By Bill O'Reilly http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/oreilly1.asp I have been investigating Jackson's finances for the past two years As a journalist and an American I take no pleasure in the embarrassment of Jesse Jackson. But I do believe in karma, and the fact that Jackson is now getting his may be the ruling of the universe. For years, Jackson has been dividing Americans. Sometimes with good cause, other times employing pure exploitation. With the revelations that he fathered a child with his mistress and paid her big money to keep quiet, Jackson has lost his moral imperative. And he may be losing much more. I have been looking into Jackson's finances for the past two years. The facts are these: He runs four organizations, and two of them are tax exempt. In some cases, he does not itemize his expenses on the tax-exempts. For example, in 1998, the Rainbow Push Coalition cited 1.2 million dollars in travel expenses. But no receipts were provided in the Illinois tax return. You try that. In 1982, the IRS reviewed Jackson's nonprofit status. About one million dollars was unaccounted for. Jackson was ordered to repay about seven hundred thousand to the government. It took him years to do it. The IRS did not charge him interest or a penalty. You try to get that deal. Jesse Jackson is a millionaire but does not have a full-time job. He gets paid to speak and apparently has a steady income flow. He provided his mistress with $40,000 in moving expenses, a $365,000 house and $10,000 a month in child support. Was any of that tax- exempt money? Enquiring minds would like to know. The government seems to be afraid of Jesse Jackson. He has not been audited since 1982, even though he was a million light. The press is afraid of Jackson, as well. The New York Times played the mistress story on page 26. The reason the powers that be are afraid is that Jackson will demonize his opponents in a heartbeat. He'll slap you with a racist tag, and if you really annoy him, he'll picket you and urge his supporters to drive you out of business. He is not a man to be taken lightly. Last year, Jesse Jackson went to Mississippi and told the world that the authorities were covering up the murder of a young man found hanging from a tree. Of course that wasn't true. The evidence was overwhelming that the man committed suicide. Jackson never apologized. A few months ago, Jesse Jackson ran down to Florida and told the world the state willingly disenfranchised thousands of black voters. No proof was presented, but the NAACP has filed a lawsuit. I am anxiously awaiting the depositions, as no journalist has uncovered any pattern of organized unlawful acts against African-Americans. But Jackson is positive there was a conspiracy. Just as he was positive about that young man in Mississippi. Jesse Jackson has many enemies, but few are willing to talk on the record. One very powerful man in Washington told me that he wanted Jackson to join a group that was going into the inner cities to speak to small children about the horrors of drugs. The group would have garnered a tremendous amount of publicity. Jackson declined to participate. The CEO of the company Cypress Semiconductor told me that Jackson demanded his company hire "consultants," people close to Jackson, for advice on how to integrate the company. As Cypress is very well integrated, the CEO told Jackson to take a hike. Many executives would not have done that and would have hired Jackson's pals. Is there anything for Jackson at the end of the "consulting" rainbow? Once again, enquiring minds want to know. Jesse Jackson is the most visible African-American leader in the country. As such, he holds and wields tremendous power. He has been financially unchecked for the past 18 years. He has rammed his political and social agenda down many throats. Now he has been disgraced and should be thoroughly investigated by the government. But whether Congress or the Bush administration has the courage to do this remains to be seen. What is apparent, at least to your humble correspondent, is that Jesse Jackson has run afoul of forces far more powerful than auditors or politicians. His karma status is dubious, to say the least. His spiritual student, Bill Clinton, somehow beat the karma rap, at least in the short term, and sprinted from the White House yelling to anyone who would listen that he was a big plus for the country. Will Jesse Jackson be able to pull a Clinton and come back from disgrace? It certainly is possible. Especially if nobody bothers to look any deeper than the sex business. But the real stories about Jesse Jackson---and Bill Clinton, for that matter -- are yet to be told. And unless the government begins to toughen up, the likelihood is that they never will be. JWR contributor Bill O'Reilly is host of the Fox News show, "The O'Reilly Factor," and author of the new book, The O'Reilly Factor: The Good, the Bad, and The Completely Ridiculous in American Life. Comments by clicking here. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: BILL # H.R.225 (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 10:54:20 PST On Jan 24, DAnde1706@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 1/22/01 12:27:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, AWright191 writes: > ASK YOUR REPS TO OPPOSE THIS ONE. IT ONLY RESTRICTS THE HONEST CITIZEN AND > DOES NOT RESTRICT THE CRIMINAL. > > 107th CONGRESS > > 1st Session > > H. R. 225 > To prevent handgun violence and illegal commerce in handguns. > > > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES > > January 3, 2001 > Mr. WEXLER (for himself, Mr. NADLER, and Mr. MORAN of Virginia) introduced > the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > A BILL > To prevent handgun violence and illegal commerce in handguns. > > > Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United > States of America in Congress assembled, > > SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. > > This Act may be cited as the `Anti-Gunrunning Act of 2001'. > > SEC. 2. PREVENTING GUN TRAFFICKING BY RESTRICTING HANDGUN TRANSFERS TO ONE > PER MONTH. > > (a) IN GENERAL- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by > adding at the end the following: > > `(z)(1) The Congress finds and declares that-- > > `(A) crime, particularly crime involving drugs and guns, is a pervasive, > nationwide problem; > > `(B) crime at the local level is exacerbated by the interstate movement of > drugs, guns, and criminal gangs; > > `(C) firearms and ammunition move easily in interstate commerce; > > `(D) the illegal movement of firearms, and handguns in particular, across > state lines is a widespread and pervasive national problem; > > `(E) handguns (even when lawfully purchased) are unlawfully transported > across state lines by gun traffickers and are illegally sold to prohibited > persons; > > `(F) in fact, even before a firearm is illegally sold by a trafficker, the > gun, its component parts, ammunition, and the raw materials from which it > is made have moved in interstate commerce; > > `(G) law-abiding persons may fear to travel interstate or to or through > certain parts of the country due to concern about violent crime and gun > violence; > > `(H) the illegal movement of handguns across state lines substantially > affects the national market for firearms, because handguns sold in one > State in which there are few restrictions provide a convenient source for > the acquisition of handguns by gun traffickers who transport the handguns > to jurisdictions with stronger restrictions; > > `(I) the unlawful sale of firearms by traffickers provides a method by > which firearms can be bought and sold anonymously, without background > checks and without record-keeping requirements to enable gun tracing; > > `(J) handguns sold by traffickers are often obtained by criminals and other > prohibited persons who frequently use guns that cannot be traced to commit > crimes; > > `(K) handgun violence is a pervasive, national problem that is exacerbated > by the availability of handguns through gun traffickers; > > `(L) firearms from traffickers have been involved in subsequent crimes > including drug offenses, crimes of violence, property crimes, and illegal > possession by felons and other prohibited persons; > > `(M) because gun trafficking is often an interstate activity, individual > States and localities are often severely hampered in combating illegal > handgun purchases--even States and localities that have made strong efforts > to prevent, detect, and punish gun-related crime and illegal trafficking of > firearms--as a result of the failure or inability of other States or > localities to take strong measures; and > > `(N) the Congress has the power, under the interstate commerce clause and > other provisions of the Constitution, to ensure, by enactment of this > section, that criminals and other prohibited persons do not obtain firearms > through gun traffickers. > > `(2) It shall be unlawful for any licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, > or licensed dealer-- > > `(A) during any 30-day period, to sell, deliver or transfer 2 or more > handguns to any single person (other than a licensed importer, licensed > manufacturer, or licensed dealer), or > > `(B) to sell, deliver or transfer a handgun to any single person (other > than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer), > knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that the transferee has > already received one or more handguns within the previous 30 days. > > `(3)(A) It shall be unlawful for any person (other than a licensed > importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer) to receive more than > one handgun within any 30-day period. > > `(B) Under such rules and regulations as the Secretary shall prescribe, > subparagraph (A) shall not apply to the loan or rental of a single handgun > solely for purposes of target shooting, provided that the recipient > possesses no more than one such loaned or rented handgun at any one time. > > `(4) Under such rules and regulations as the Secretary shall prescribe, > paragraphs (2) and (3) shall not apply to-- > > `(A) handguns transferred to or received by qualified private security > companies licensed to do business within the State where the transfer > occurs for use by the company in its security operations, provided that any > handgun transferred under this subsection is transferred through a licensed > dealer located in the State where the security company is licensed to do > business; > > `(B) the disposition made of a handgun delivered to a person licensed under > section 923 for the sole purpose of repair or customizing when such handgun > or a replacement handgun of the same kind and type is returned to the > person from whom it was received; > > `(C) the loan or rental of a single handgun from a person licensed under > section 923, provided that the recipient possesses no more than one such > loaned or rented handgun at any one time; > > `(D) the redemption of pawned handguns from a person licensed under section > 923 by the person from whom the handguns were received; > > `(E) the receipt of curio or relic handguns by a licensed collector; > > `(F) the receipt of a single handgun from a person licensed under section > 923 to replace a lost or stolen handgun of the same kind or type, where the > transferee has submitted to the licensee a copy of an official police > report establishing the loss or theft of a handgun or handguns; > > `(G) the transfer of handguns by bequest; > > `(H) the transfer of handguns to the transferor's spouse, child, parent, > stepparent, grandparent, grandchild, brother, or sister; or > > `(I) the transfer of all or part of a personal firearms collection (as that > term is defined in regulations to be prescribed by the Secretary) that > includes handguns, provided that the handguns in the collection are > transferred through a licensed importer, manufacturer, or dealer located in > the State where the transferee resides.'. > > (b) PENALTIES- Section 924(a)(2) of such title is amended by striking `or > (o)' and inserting `(o), or (z)'. > > (c) INCREASED PENALTIES FOR LICENSEES WHO KNOWINGLY MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS > IN REQUIRED RECORDS- > > (1) Section 924(a)(3) of such title is amended-- > > (A) by striking `(A)'; > > (B) by striking `or' after `chapter'; > > (C) by striking subsection (B); and > > (D) by striking `one year' and inserting `5 years'. > > (2) Section 924(a) of such title is amended by adding at the end the > following: > > `(7) Any licensed dealer, licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or > licensed collector who knowingly violates section 922(m) shall be fined > under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.'. > > (d) CONFORMING CHANGES TO THE BRADY LAW- Section 922(t) of such title is > amended-- > > (1) in paragraph (1)(B)(ii), by striking `(g) or (n)' and inserting `(g), > (n), or (z)'; > > (2) in paragraph (2), by striking `(g) or (n)' and inserting `(g), (n), or > (z)'; > > (3) in paragraph (3), by striking subparagraph (A) and redesignating > subparagraphs (B) and (C) as subparagraphs (A) and (B), respectively; > > (4) in paragraph (4), by striking `(g) or (n)' and inserting `(g), (n), or > (z)'; and > > (5) by adding at the end the following: > > `(10) A licensee must, within three days of receiving a request from the > prospective transferee, notify the national instant criminal background > check system of any background check conducted pursuant to this section > within the previous 30 days that did not result in the transfer of a > handgun. > > `(11) Information that is retained pursuant to Public Law 103-159 may be > used to effectuate section 922(z) of this title.'. > > (e) EFFECTIVE DATE- The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the > Attorney General, shall determine, and publish in the Federal Register, the > date on which this section shall become effective. > > (f) DEADLINES FOR DESTRUCTION OF RECORDS RELATED TO CERTAIN FIREARMS > TRANSFERS- > > (1) HANDGUN TRANSFERS SUBJECT TO THE WAITING PERIOD- Section > 922(s)(6)(B)(i) of such title is amended by striking `20 business days' and > inserting `35 calendar days'. > > (2) FIREARMS TRANSFERS SUBJECT TO INSTANT CHECK- Section 922(t)(2)(C) of > such title is amended by inserting `within 35 calendar days after the date > the system provides the licensee with the number,'. > END [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: BILL # H.R. 220 (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 10:57:49 PST On Jan 24, DAnde1706@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 1/22/01 12:15:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, AWright191 writes: > 107th CONGRESS > > 1st Session > > H. R. 220 > To amend title II of the Social Security Act and the Internal Revenue Code > of 1986 to protect the integrity and confidentiality of Social Security > account numbers issued under such title, to prohibit the establishment in > the Federal Government of any uniform national identifying number, and to > prohibit Federal agencies from imposing standards for identification of > individuals on other agencies or persons. > > > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES > > January 3, 2001 > Mr. PAUL (for himself and Mr. BARTLETT of Maryland) introduced the > following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Ways and Means, and > in addition to the Committee on Government Reform, for a period to be > subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of > such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > A BILL > To amend title II of the Social Security Act and the Internal Revenue Code > of 1986 to protect the integrity and confidentiality of Social Security > account numbers issued under such title, to prohibit the establishment in > the Federal Government of any uniform national identifying number, and to > prohibit Federal agencies from imposing standards for identification of > individuals on other agencies or persons. > > > Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United > States of America in Congress assembled, > > SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. > > This Act may be cited as the `Identity Theft Protection Act of 2001'. > > SEC. 2. RESTRICTIONS ON THE USE OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY ACCOUNT NUMBER. > > (a) REPEAL OF PROVISIONS AUTHORIZING CERTAIN USAGES OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY > ACCOUNT NUMBER- Section 205(c)(2) of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. > 405(c)(2)) is amended-- > > (1) in subparagraph (C), by striking `(C)(i) It is the policy' and all that > follows through clause (vi); > > (2) by striking subparagraphs (C)(ix), (E), and (H); and > > (3) by redesignating subparagraphs (F) and (G) as subparagraphs (E) and > (F), respectively. > > (b) NEW RULES APPLICABLE TO SOCIAL SECURITY ACCOUNT NUMBERS- Section > 205(c)(2) of such Act is amended further-- > > (1) by inserting after subparagraph (B) the following: > > `(C)(i) All social security account numbers issued under this subsection > shall be randomly generated. > > `(ii) Except as otherwise provided in this paragraph-- > > `(I) the social security account number issued under this subsection to any > individual shall be the exclusive property of such individual, and > > `(II) the Social Security Administration shall not divulge the social > security account number issued to any individual under this subsection to > any agency or instrumentality of the Federal Government, to any State, > political subdivision of a State, or agency or instrumentality of a State > or political subdivision thereof, or to any other individual. > > `(iii) Clause (ii) shall not apply with respect to the use of the social > security account number as an identifying number to the extent provided in > section 6109(d) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to use of > the social security account number for social security and related > purposes).'; and > > (2) by redesignating clauses (vii) and (viii) of subparagraph (C) as > clauses (iv) and (v), respectively. > > (c) USE OF SOCIAL SECURITY ACCOUNT NUMBERS UNDER INTERNAL REVENUE CODE- > Subsection (d) of section 6109 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is > amended-- > > (1) in the heading, by inserting `FOR SOCIAL SECURITY AND RELATED PURPOSES' > after `NUMBER'; and > > (2) by striking `this title' and inserting `section 86, chapter 2, and > subtitle C of this title'. > > (d) EFFECTIVE DATES AND RELATED RULES- > > (1) EFFECTIVE DATES- Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment > of this Act, the Commissioner of Social Security shall publish in the > Federal Register the date determined by the Commissioner, in consultation > with the Secretary of the Treasury, to be the earliest date thereafter by > which implementation of the amendments made by this section is practicable. > The amendments made by subsection (a) shall take effect on the earlier of > such date or the date which occurs 5 years after the date of the enactment > of this Act. The amendments made by subsection (b) shall apply with respect > to social security account numbers issued on or after such earlier date. > The amendments made by subsection (c) shall apply with respect to calendar > quarters and taxable years beginning on or after such earlier date. > > (2) REISSUANCE OF NUMBERS- The Commissioner of Social Security shall ensure > that, not later than 5 years after the date of the enactment of this Act, > all individuals who have been issued social security account numbers under > section 205(c) of the Social Security Act as of the date prior to the > earlier date specified in paragraph (1) are issued new social security > account numbers in accordance with such section as amended by this section. > Upon issuance of such new social security account numbers, any social > security account numbers issued to such individuals prior to such earlier > date specified in paragraph (1) shall be null and void and subject to the > requirements of section 205(c)(2)(C)(ii)(II) of such Act, as amended by > this section. Nothing in this section or the amendments made thereby shall > be construed to preclude the Social Security Administration and the > Secretary of the Treasury from cross-referencing such social security > account numbers newly issued to individuals pursuant to this paragraph to > the former social security account numbers of such individuals for purposes > of administering title II or title XVI of such Act or administering the > Internal Revenue Code of 1986 in connection with section 86, chapter 2, and > subtitle C thereof. > > SEC. 3. CONFORMING AMENDMENTS TO PRIVACY ACT OF 1974. > > (a) IN GENERAL- Section 7 of the Privacy Act of 1974 (5 U.S.C. 552a note, > 88 Stat. 1909) is amended-- > > (1) in subsection (a), by striking paragraph (2) and inserting the > following: > > `(2) The provisions of paragraph (1) of this subsection shall not apply > with respect to any disclosure which is required under regulations of the > Commissioner of Social Security pursuant to section 205(c)(2) of the Social > Security Act or under regulations of the Secretary of the Treasury pursuant > to section 6109(d) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986.'; > > and > > (2) by striking subsection (b) and inserting the following: > > `(b) Except with respect to disclosures described in subsection (a)(2), no > agency or instrumentality of the Federal Government, a State, a political > subdivision of a State, or any combination of the foregoing may request an > individual to disclose his social security account number, on either a > mandatory or voluntary basis.'. > > (b) EFFECTIVE DATE- The amendments made by this section shall take effect > on the earlier date specified in section 2(d)(1). > > SEC. 4. PROHIBITION OF GOVERNMENT-WIDE UNIFORM IDENTIFYING NUMBERS. > > (a) IN GENERAL- Except as authorized under section 205(c)(2) of the Social > Security Act, any two agencies or instrumentalities of the Federal > Government may not implement the same identifying number with respect to > any individual. > > (b) IDENTIFYING NUMBERS- For purposes of this section-- > > (1) the term `identifying number' with respect to an individual means any > combination of alpha-numeric symbols which serves to identify such > individual, and > > (2) any identifying number and any one or more derivatives of such number > shall be treated as the same identifying number. > > (c) EFFECTIVE DATE- The provisions of this section shall take effect > January 1, 2003. > > SEC. 5. PROHIBITION OF GOVERNMENT-ESTABLISHED IDENTIFIERS. > > (a) IN GENERAL- Subject to subsection (b), a Federal agency may not-- > > (1) establish or mandate a uniform standard for identification of an > individual that is required to be used by any other Federal agency, a State > agency, or a private person for any purpose other than the purpose of > conducting the authorized activities of the Federal agency establishing or > mandating the standard; or > > (2) condition receipt of any Federal grant or contract or other Federal > funding on the adoption, by a State, a State agency, or a political > subdivision of a State, of a uniform standard for identification of an > individual. > > (b) TRANSACTIONS BETWEEN PRIVATE PERSONS- Notwithstanding subsection (a), a > Federal agency may not establish or mandate a uniform standard for > identification of an individual that is required to be used within the > agency, or by any other Federal agency, a State agency, or a private > person, for the purpose of-- > > (1) investigating, monitoring, overseeing, or otherwise regulating a > transaction to which the Federal Government is not a party; or > > (2) administrative simplification. > > (c) REPEALER- Any provision of Federal law enacted before, on, or after the > date of the enactment of this Act that is inconsistent with subsection (a) > or (b) is repealed, including sections 1173(b) and 1177(a)(1) of the Social > Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1320d-2(b); 42 U.S.C. 1320d-6(a)(1)). > > (d) DEFINITIONS- For purposes of this section: > > (1) AGENCY- The term `agency' means any of the following: > > (A) An Executive agency (as defined in section 105 of title 5, United > States Code). > > (B) A military department (as defined in section 102 of such title). > > (C) An agency in the executive branch of a State government. > > (D) An agency in the legislative branch of the Government of the United > States or a State government. > > (E) An agency in the judicial branch of the Government of the United States > or a State government. > > (2) STATE- The term `State' means any of the several States, the District > of Columbia, the Virgin Islands, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, Guam, > American Samoa, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, the > Republic of the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, or > the Republic of Palau. > > (e) EFFECTIVE DATE- The provisions of this section shall take effect > January 1, 2003. > END [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: H.R.31 CONTACT YOUR REPS (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 10:47:13 PST On Jan 24, DAnde1706@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 1/22/01 11:20:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, AWright191 writes: > The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do > nothing." > Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who still > have swords." > Have you bugged your reps. today? > AL > > > Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2001 (Introduced in the House) > > > ASK YOUR REPS TO CO SPONCER THIS BILL. > > HR 31 IH > > > 107th CONGRESS > > 1st Session > > H. R. 31 > To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms > in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of > such right. > > > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES > > January 3, 2001 > Mr. BARTLETT of Maryland (for himself, Mr. STEARNS, Mr. BRADY of Texas, Mr. > HALL of Texas, Mr. SCHAFFER, Mr. HILLEARY, Mr. CALLAHAN, Mr. HAYWORTH, Mrs. > EMERSON, Mr. NETHERCUTT, Mr. BARCIA, Mr. STUMP, and Mr. SIMPSON) introduced > the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > A BILL > To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms > in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of > such right. > > > Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United > States of America in Congress assembled, > > SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. > > This Act may be cited as the `Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2001'. > > SEC. 2. FINDINGS. > > The Congress finds the following: > > (1) Police cannot protect, and are not legally liable for failing to > protect, individual citizens, as evidenced by the following: > > (A) The courts have consistently ruled that the police do not have an > obligation to protect individuals, only the public in general. For example, > in Warren v. District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department, 444 A.2d > 1 (D.C. App. 1981), the court stated: `[C]ourts have without exception > concluded that when a municipality or other governmental entity undertakes > to furnish police services, it assumes a duty only to the public at large > and not to individual members of the community.'. > > (B) Former Florida Attorney General Jim Smith told Florida legislators that > police responded to only 200,000 of 700,000 calls for help to Dade County > authorities. > > (C) The United States Department of Justice found that, in 1989, there were > 168,881 crimes of violence for which police had not responded within 1 hour. > > (D) Currently, there are about 150,000 police officers on duty at any one > time. > > (2) Citizens frequently must use firearms to defend themselves, as > evidenced by the following: > > (A) Every year, more than 2,400,000 people in the United States use a gun > to defend themselves against criminals--or more than 6,500 people a day. > This means that, each year, firearms are used 60 times more often to > protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives. > > (B) Of the 2,400,000 self-defense cases, more than 192,000 are by women > defending themselves against sexual abuse. > > (C) Of the 2,400,000 times citizens use their guns to defend themselves > every year, 92 percent merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to > scare off their attackers. Less than 8 percent of the time, does a citizen > kill or wound his or her attacker. > > (3) Law-abiding citizens, seeking only to provide for their families' > defense, are routinely prosecuted for brandishing or using a firearm in > self- defense. For example: > > (A) In 1986, Don Bennett of Oak Park, Illinois, was shot at by 2 men who > had just stolen $1,200 in cash and jewelry from his suburban Chicago > service station. The police arrested Bennett for violating Oak Park's > handgun ban. The police never caught the actual criminals. > > (B) Ronald Biggs, a resident of Goldsboro, North Carolina, was arrested for > shooting an intruder in 1990. Four men broke into Biggs' residence one > night, ransacked the home and then assaulted him with a baseball bat. When > Biggs attempted to escape through the back door, the group chased him and > Biggs turned and shot one of the assailants in the stomach. Biggs was > arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon--a felony. His > assailants were charged with misdemeanors. > > (C) Don Campbell of Port Huron, Michigan, was arrested, jailed, and > criminally charged after he shot a criminal assailant in 1991. The thief > had broken into Campbell's store and attacked him. The prosecutor > plea-bargained with the assailant and planned to use him to testify against > Campbell for felonious use of a firearm. Only after intense community > pressure did the prosecutor finally drop the charges. > > (4) The courts have granted immunity from prosecution to police officers > who use firearms in the line of duty. Similarly, law-abiding citizens who > use firearms to protect themselves, their families, and their homes against > violent felons should not be subject to lawsuits by the violent felons who > sought to victimize them. > > SEC. 3. RIGHT TO OBTAIN FIREARMS FOR SECURITY, AND TO USE FIREARMS IN > DEFENSE OF SELF, FAMILY, OR HOME; ENFORCEMENT. > > (a) REAFFIRMATION OF RIGHT- A person not prohibited from receiving a > firearm by Section 922(g) of title 18, United States Code, shall have the > right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms-- > > (1) in defense of self or family against a reasonably perceived threat of > imminent and unlawful infliction of serious bodily injury; > > (2) in defense of self or family in the course of the commission by another > person of a violent felony against the person or a member of the person's > family; and > > (3) in defense of the person's home in the course of the commission of a > felony by another person. > > (b) FIREARM DEFINED- As used in subsection (a), the term `firearm' means-- > > (1) a shotgun (as defined in section 921(a)(5) of title 18, United States > Code); > > (2) a rifle (as defined in section 921(a)(7) of title 18, United States > Code); or > > (3) a handgun (as defined in section 10 of Public Law 99-408). > > (c) ENFORCEMENT OF RIGHT- > > (1) IN GENERAL- A person whose right under subsection (a) is violated in > any manner may bring an action in any United States district court against > the United States, any State, or any person for damages, injunctive relief, > and such other relief as the court deems appropriate. > > (2) AUTHORITY TO AWARD A REASONABLE ATTORNEY'S FEE- In an action brought > under paragraph (1), the court, in its discretion, may allow the prevailing > plaintiff a reasonable attorney's fee as part of the costs. > > (3) STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS- An action may not be brought under paragraph > (1) after the 5-year period that begins with the date the violation > described in paragraph (1) is discovered. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: H. J. RES. 4 (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 10:51:16 PST On Jan 24, DAnde1706@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 1/22/01 12:43:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, AWright191 writes: > THIS COULD BE GOOD OR DISASTROUS TO DANGEROUS TO TAKE A CHANCE ON. OPPOSE > AL > > 107th CONGRESS > > 1st Session > > H. J. RES. 4 > Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal > the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on > the number of terms an individual may serve as President. > > > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES > > January 3, 2001 > Mr. SERRANO introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred > to the Committee on the Judiciary > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > JOINT RESOLUTION > Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal > the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on > the number of terms an individual may serve as President. > > > Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of > America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring > therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the > Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and > purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of > three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of > its submission for ratification: > > `Article-- > > `The twenty-second article of amendment to the Constitution of the United > States is hereby repealed.'. > END [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: H. J. RES. 1 (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 11:03:58 PST On Jan 24, DAnde1706@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 1/22/01 12:32:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, AWright191 writes: > OPPOSE THIS ONE. POPULAR VOTE IS NOTHING MORE THAN MOB RULE. THE VERY > REASON THE FOUNDING FATHER'S SET UP THE ELECTORAL VOTE. > > 107th CONGRESS > > 1st Session > > H. J. RES. 1 > Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to provide > for the appointment by the States of Electors for the election of the > President and Vice President on the basis of the popular vote of each > Congressional district of the State and for the appointment of two electors > by each State on the basis of the total popular vote of the State. > > > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES > > January 3, 2001 > Mr. CLYBURN introduced the following joint resolution; which was referred > to the Committee on the Judiciary > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > JOINT RESOLUTION > Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to provide > for the appointment by the States of Electors for the election of the > President and Vice President on the basis of the popular vote of each > Congressional district of the State and for the appointment of two electors > by each State on the basis of the total popular vote of the State. > > > Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of > America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring > therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the > Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and > purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of > three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of > its submission for ratification: > > `Article-- > > `SECTION 1. In an election for President and Vice President, each State > shall appoint two Electors to vote for the candidates for President and > Vice President who received the greatest number of popular votes cast in > the State for such election and, for each congressional district > established pursuant to section 2 of this article, one Elector to vote for > the candidates for President and Vice President who received the greatest > number of popular votes in that district. > > `SECTION 2. For purposes of section 1 of this article, each State shall by > law establish a number of districts equal to the number of Representatives > in Congress to which such State is entitled. All such districts shall be > established by the States at such intervals as the Congress by law > provides. Any district established for the election of Representatives in > Congress as of the date of the ratification of this article shall be > considered to be established pursuant to this section. > > `SECTION 3. For purposes of this article, the District constituting the > seat of Government of the United States shall be treated as if it were a > State, except that the number of electors for the District may not exceed > the number of electors for the least populous State. > > `SECTION 4. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of > any candidate for President or Vice President before the day on which the > President-elect or Vice President-elect has been chosen, and for the case > of a tie in any election. > > `SECTION 5. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by > appropriate legislation. > > `SECTION 6. This article shall apply with regard to any election for > President and Vice President that is held more than one year after the date > of the ratification of this article.'. > END [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: H. J. RES. 3 (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 11:07:35 PST On Jan 24, DAnde1706@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 1/22/01 12:37:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, AWright191 writes: > OPPOSE > AL > > 107th CONGRESS > > > 1st Session > > H. J. RES. 3 > Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to abolish > the electoral college and to provide for the direct popular election of the > President and Vice President of the United States. > > > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES > > January 3, 2001 > Mr. GREEN of Texas introduced the following joint resolution; which was > referred to the Committee on the Judiciary > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > JOINT RESOLUTION > Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to abolish > the electoral college and to provide for the direct popular election of the > President and Vice President of the United States. > > > Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of > America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring > therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the > Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and > purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of > three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of > its submission for ratification: > > `Article -- > > `SECTION 1. The President and Vice President shall be elected by the people > of the several States and the district constituting the seat of government > of the United States. > > `SECTION 2. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications > requisite for electors of Senators and Representatives in Congress from > that State, except that the legislature of any State may prescribe less > restrictive qualifications with respect to residence and Congress may > establish uniform residence and age qualifications. > > `SECTION 3. The persons having the greatest number of votes for President > and Vice President shall be elected. > > `SECTION 4. Each elector shall cast a single vote jointly applicable to > President and Vice President. Names of candidates may not be joined unless > they shall have consented thereto and no candidate may consent to the > candidate's name being joined with that of more than one other person. > > `SECTION 5. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of > any candidate for President or Vice President before the day on which the > President-elect or Vice President-elect has been chosen, and for the case > of a tie in any election. > > `SECTION 6. This article shall apply with respect to any election for > President and Vice President held after the expiration of the 1-year period > which begins on the date of the ratification of this article.'. > END [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: H. J. RES. 3 (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 11:11:47 PST On Jan 24, DAnde1706@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 1/22/01 12:37:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, AWright191 writes: > OPPOSE > AL > > 107th CONGRESS > > > 1st Session > > H. J. RES. 3 > Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to abolish > the electoral college and to provide for the direct popular election of the > President and Vice President of the United States. > > > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES > > January 3, 2001 > Mr. GREEN of Texas introduced the following joint resolution; which was > referred to the Committee on the Judiciary > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > JOINT RESOLUTION > Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to abolish > the electoral college and to provide for the direct popular election of the > President and Vice President of the United States. > > > Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of > America in Congress assembled (two-thirds of each House concurring > therein), That the following article is proposed as an amendment to the > Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and > purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of > three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of > its submission for ratification: > > `Article -- > > `SECTION 1. The President and Vice President shall be elected by the people > of the several States and the district constituting the seat of government > of the United States. > > `SECTION 2. The electors in each State shall have the qualifications > requisite for electors of Senators and Representatives in Congress from > that State, except that the legislature of any State may prescribe less > restrictive qualifications with respect to residence and Congress may > establish uniform residence and age qualifications. > > `SECTION 3. The persons having the greatest number of votes for President > and Vice President shall be elected. > > `SECTION 4. Each elector shall cast a single vote jointly applicable to > President and Vice President. Names of candidates may not be joined unless > they shall have consented thereto and no candidate may consent to the > candidate's name being joined with that of more than one other person. > > `SECTION 5. The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of > any candidate for President or Vice President before the day on which the > President-elect or Vice President-elect has been chosen, and for the case > of a tie in any election. > > `SECTION 6. This article shall apply with respect to any election for > President and Vice President held after the expiration of the 1-year period > which begins on the date of the ratification of this article.'. > END [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: RE: Keyes' Foundation Announces New Book (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 13:48:46 PST On Jan 25, House, David Alan wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] For whomever this may interest. Personally I intend challenging these good folk with some perhaps radical ideas which I feel should be a part of conservatism, or at least Constitutional patriotism, but somehow are usually not a consideration, or at least not in any significant way. David House -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:53 PM On behalf of Alan Keyes, I would like to share with you some good news about the Declaration Foundation. Ambassador Keyes is the Chairman of the Foundation, a non-profit educational organization devoted to restoring America's Declaration Principles to their rightful place in our national life. Our most exciting news is that you can now obtain a copy of our new book, America's Declaration Principles in Thought and Action. Written by Dr. Andrew Seeley and me, this book is the cornerstone of the Declaration Foundation curriculum, and is now available for purchase in two formats (download and printed) on our new website, www.declaration.net. Second, check out the website itself. We have put considerable effort into redesigning our website to make it more user friendly and eye pleasing. We think that you will enjoy the new format and content, and we hope that you will participate in the website by contributing to our discussion forum, as well as by submitting news and editorial and analytical articles. The prestigious EducationNews.org site has already chosen declaration.net as "Site of the Week," and I hope you'll see why when you drop by. The website is full of useful information, such as historical documents, articles and speeches by Alan Keyes and other scholars and statesmen, links to great websites, news of the day, etc. You can also preview the book at no cost online. We have posted Ambassador Keyes' introduction and a selection from the concluding chapter of the text at www.declaration.net. We depend on you to spread the word about this website, and we hope that you will keep coming back on a daily basis to read the news of the day. We will focus on issues illuminated by the founding principles of our nation, such life, liberty, national sovereignty, constitutional interpretation, religion, education, human sexuality, and the family. We will assist you in performing the duties of citizenship by looking for articles of interest every morning, so you can get everything you need in one place. Please fill out the "Join" form on the website to be entered into the website's database, so we can e-mail you updates from the Foundation, as well as inform you about the activities and public appearances of our chairman, Alan Keyes. God Bless you, Richard Ferrier, President Declaration Foundation info@declaration.net [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: OVK2000 (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 13:49:59 PST On inv oralid,, Albert T. Viar wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Patriots, A few words about reading and understanding Jack McLamb's Operation Vampire Killer 2000: THE UNITED STATES PROGRAM FOR GENERAL AND COMPLETE DISARMAMENT IN A PEACEFUL WORLD There is a plan, in United States law, that is for the purpose of disbanding our ENTIRE military and using the United Nations to police the entire world, including the United States. Check the facts for yourself at your Public Library. Read Title 22 USC Section 2551, Title 22 USC Section 2552, Title 22 USC Section 2571 (a) and Public Law 87-297 in the State Dept. document called Publication 7277. In your public library see U.S. Code Books pages 651, 652, 654 & 655 for Title 22 and various sections noted above, and Public Law 101-216. The basic problem with this is that it violates our Constitution in the most blatant ways, leaves us under foreign control, and confiscates ALL our weapons. The congress is allowing our military bases to be closed down, except for those which will be used by the world army (as noted in publication 7277 and in "The Blueprint for the Peace Race.") This was signed into law by John F. Kennedy in 1961, and every president since has worked to enact its provisions. Second Amendment Committee P.O. Box 1776 Hanford, CA 93232 (209) 584-5209 Aid & Abet Police & Military Newsletter HC 11, Box 357 Kamiah, Idaho 83536 (208)935-7852 Superintendent of Documents U.S. Government Printing Office Washington 25, D.C. 20005 An excellent source of detailed information about this diabolical scheme to subvert Planet Earth to Communist domination, is Vampire Killer 2000, by Jack McLamb, Author of Vampire Killer 2000 and Aid & Abet. The Purpose Page from Vampire Killer 2000: OPERATION VAMPIRE KILLER 2000 A U.S. POLICE ACTION PURPOSE The Police Officers, National Guardsmen and military officers who have contributed to this special publication are aware of a plan to overthrow the Constitutional Republic of these United States of America. This publication, many months in preparation, was found difficult to compile for many reasons. One important reason was that none of the officers involved were pleased with the duty of bringing to the attention of our colleaques the names and activities of some in our nation who have been in the past (or presently) engaged in what can only be described by law as treason and/or sedition against their own government. While detailing the plan of these Internationalists, the main goal of this special police publication will be to promote an active program that will defend America from those at work forming an oligarchy of Imperialism against this nation of free people. The herein-described plan to halt this unAmerican activity can succeed only with the combined efforts of the People's Protectors (the Police, Guardsmen and Military) and their countrymen in the private sector. In defining "treason" and "sedition" we look to the Fifth edition of Black's Law Dictionary, pg. 1345, and pg. 1218. TREASON: The offence of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance; or of betraying the state into the hands of a foreign power. SEDITION: ...knowingly becoming a member of any organization which advocates the overthrow or reformation of the existing form of government of this state by violence or unlawful means. The facts and information about some of the persons and their actions listed in this special report is prima facie evidence of their long involvement in activities directly designed to overtly overthrow the lawful, constitutional government of the United States of America. These individuals thus hope to deliver the People of the U.S. into the hands of a foreign power known as the United Nations, which is actually an oligarchy of the world's superrich, who have no allegiance to any one nation and who control the U.N. from behind the scenes. As the reader will find, many of these persons are, or have been, members of various organizations that have as their purpose the destruction of this Constitutional Republic. IMPORTANT NOTE: Not all of the people listed in this report are involved in treason and sedition against the United States. Some of the individuals listed and quoted are presenting evidence of these crimes committed by others or are listed/quoted for informational purposes only. As patriotic Americans of all races. religions and political beliefs, we claim our right to defend our Republic from all enemies foreign and domestic. This educational work is one such attempt. Albert T. Viar [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Serious Action underway in Tennessee, Texas, Washington (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 13:51:22 PST On Jan 25, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ALERT: SERIOUS ACTION UNDERWAY IN TENNESSEE, TEXAS AND WASHINGTON TO RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION by Dot Bibee (tndothb@aol.com) and Sue Kurtz (dkurtz@webtv.com) Tennessee Committee to Restore the Constitution noregions.org This ALERT is to notify the Citizens of Tennessee, Texas, and Washington State that their help is needed in this effort to restore the Constitution of the United States and to re-establish all 50 States as sovereign. We are declaring by these ACTS that will will no longer TOLERATE the transfer of state powers to a central authority in Washington, D.C. or global government. TENNESSEE: Plans to hand deliver the "package" below to all State Legislators on Friday, February 3, 2001, and the following day PROTEST ON THE CAPITOL STEPS - the passing of a law imposing the URBAN GROWTH PLAN upon our cities and counties. This Rally will begin at NOON until around 3 PM. We NEED help in delivering the packages and to ATTEND the Rally. The burning of a UN flag is planned. Of course, the MEDIA is invited. Response from all over the state is expected. Weather conditions are the only thing that will change these dates. TEXAS: TCAN Needs Help Rev. Curt Tomlin, (ctomlin@vvm.com) Christian Alert Network, has taken the responsibility of carrying out the TAC Operations of Col. Archibald Roberts of the Committee to Restore the Constitution. This project has been launched in the State of Texas (miles and miles of Texas) and entails assembling a "Briefing Book" which is a 3 ring binder containing 70 - 100, one page charts. Each chart presents a "quotation or statement" extracted from a United Nations Treaty or Convention document. Each briefing book cost $10.00 to assemble. Rev. Tomlin is in Killeen, TX Ph 254-628-7043 Web Site: http://www.vvm.com/~ctomlin Note: That is v v m not wm as it looks in print. WASHINGTON: John Prukop (ccw@wolfenet.com), Citizens for a Contitutional Washington, has sent out a WARNING & PUBLIC NOTICE - ESPECIALLY INTENDED for those persons who claim to be involved with preparing so-called 'COMMUNITY PLANS', such as the present and past Pierce County Council Members, ad-hoc members of the 'South Hill Community Planning Board', as well as the trained 'facilitators' in the Pierce County Planning And Land Services [PALS], with purported public authorization from the 'state of Washington' and 'County of Pierce'. As depicted herein, these so-called community plans and those engineering the 'plans', are installing a system of governance that is FOREIGN to our way of life in these United States of America, and CONTRARY to the intended purpose and design of the Constitution and domestic Laws, which must be made in Pursuance thereof, and to which EVERY public official has taken a sworn Oath to uphold and defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic. There is NO DOUBT that those who have authorized these acts have done so in total VIOLATION and BREACH of their DUTY and OBLIGATION imposed by the Constitution for the United States of America, in para materia with the Constitution of the State of Washington. These same plans are underway in EVERY County of the 50-States of the Union, and constitute SEDITION and OVERTHROW of our Ordained and Established Republican Form of Government, as guaranteed to every State in the Union by Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution. WHEREFORE, every one of these PUBLIC OFFICIALS, PLANNERS and PARTICIPANTS of these ad-hoc planning boards are subject to a CIVIL ACTION under 42 USC 1983 for DEPRIVATION OF RIGHTS, under color of state law, to wit: 42 USC 1983. Civil Action for deprivation of rights. Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory of the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress. GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ARE NOT IMMUNE FROM PROSECUTION UNDER 42 usc 1983. We at Citizens for a Constitutional Washington invite anyone who remotely questions the authenticity of what is stated here to visit your local county law library and pull from the shelves the United States Code Service, Lawyer's Edition, Title 42, "Public Health and Welfare" Section 1983. Because of the voluminous Interpretive Notes and Decisions, you will find the material regarding a 1983 Suit covered in two complete volumes (or more). As individual members of the Sovereignty, i.e., 'We the people', it is our intent to bring suit against every public official and participant, i.e., 'perpetrator' involved with these so-called 'community plans'. This may evolve into a class action lawsuit. Here in the State of Washington, Pierce County has already 'signed off' on the first of many community plans. These public officials and planners need to be sent a clear, unequivocal message, that 'We the people', the Citizens of the State and County, will NOT toleratore their abhorrent and deviant behavior any longer, and that there ARE methods of redress for their deviancy. /s/ John R. Prukop, ccw@wolfenet.com, Citizens For A Constitutional Washington 11910-C Meridian Ave. E., #142 Puyallup, Washington USA 98373 ALL WASHINGTON RESIDENTS should contact John Prukop immediately. THIS IS VERY SERIOUS ACTION. OTHER STATES: Virginia Meves of Wisconsin, "The Wisconsin Report" called me last night. She has been working with the Colonel Roberts for over 30 years. Virginia reports that several retired military officers have joined forces with the Col. in the past few months. One of them is Gen. Ben Partin. ALL progress in delivering the latest initiative which will be to take ALL 50 States to court for their FAILURE to take action against the tyranny from within. This will be reported on this LIST - for forwarding to all LISTS since Virginia is not on eMail. Please contact her: The Wisconsin Report, P. O. Box 45, Brookfield, WI 53008-0045 262-782-4832 PLEASE contact Col. Archibald Roberts, Committee to Restore the Constitution, P. O. Box 986, Ft. Collins, CO 80522 970-484-2757 OR Contact the Tennessee Committee and we will share our package to you and prepare your Bills with YOUR STATE name on it, if necessary. THIS IS IMPORTANT. Don't let PRIDE stand in your way. This is about saving AMERICA as we know it that we are talking about. HERE in Knoxville last night a meeting was held by NINE COUNTIES, ONE VISION, or regional state government - if you will. Yes, Nixon implemented FEDERAL REGIONAL GOVERNMENT, but now the globalists are doing a very good job in destroying our local governments as well. WAKE UP!! This is going on in your STATE and your COUNTY, too. Go to: http://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/countr/usa/natur.htm and find out how the United States is implementing the Biodiversity Treaty - Agenda 21 - and how they are paying for it. If you will go there, you will be SHOCKED into ACTION, I guarantee you. ================================== This is a copy of the Letter (Package) that will be delivered to the Tennessee Legislators on February 3 in Nashville, TN. Copy it and put your own STATE in the place of Tennessee. Get your "Package" from Col. Roberts or request from us if necessary. February 3, 2001 TO: ALL TENNESSEE STATE LEGISLATORS SUBJ: SOVEREIGN POWERS, STATE OF TENNESSEE In order to restore the Constitution of the United States of America and to prevent further transfer of state powers to a central authority in Washington, D.C., or global government, it is vital that the STATES introduce and pass the following measures immediately. Enclosed are two Model Bills written by Attorney David T. Horton for the Committee to Restore the Constitution. The Committee was formed in 1965 and has constantly documented how usurpers in Washington, D.C. have assumed undelegated powers and are seeking to transfer further SOVEREIGN STATE powers to international organizations in violation of the Constitution of the United States. 1. "To Investigate the Legality of the Action by Federal Agents with Regard to the United Nations." 2. "To Provide for the Enforcement of the Constitution of the United States with Regard to the so-called United Nations' Organizations." (Provides 'criminal sanctions'). Failure by State legislators to take action to stop these usurpations from destroying the provisions of the U.S. Constitution and the rights and liberties of the people of the State of Tennessee, and other states, constitutes "Misprison of Treason" or "Misprison of Felony", as follows: "Failure by a person not actively involved in the commission of treason, felony, or otherwise to prevent its commission or to report the crime to proper authorities." The enclosures sent to you shows that the State lawmakers are the "power authorities" to whom exposure of the usurpation of Tennessee's State power is to be directed and who have the authority to stop the ursurpations in Tennessee by State legislation. More information is available upon request. To expedite your application of these legislative remedies may give "full faith and credit" to the findings of other State legislatures with regard to the United States. "Full faith and credit shall be given to each State to the Public Acts, Records and Judicial Prodeedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved and the Effect thereof." Article IV, section 1, Constitution of the United States. Failure to honor your Oath of Office, "To support and defend the Constitutional of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic ... and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same...", and take corrective measures amounts to "complicity by silence" in the sedition. Such failure to act is MISPRISON OF FELONY and is a violation of Tennessee law. Mrs. Dorothy H. Bibee, Knoxville, TN [Address Omitted on this EMail] Encl: (1) Two Model State Bills for Introduction and Passage into State Law (2) Great Repository of Constitutional Power (3) The United Nations is the Greatest Fraud in All History (4) CRC Letter, Fall 2000, with September 2000 Committee Bulletin #446 (5) CRC Letter, Fall 2000 #2, October 2000 Committee Bulletin #467 (6) United Nations Threat to Sovereignty. March 1998 CRC Bulletin #433 (7) United Nations Charter 99 - A Charter for Global Democracy Hand Delivered: Rep. Jamie Hagood and Sen. Ben Atchley of Knoxville Copy: Attorney T. David Horton, Counsel, Committee to Restore the Constitution, Inc. ============================================ TENNESSEANS, TEXAS AND WASHINGTON - Respond to this call for help. ALL OTHERS: Establish the ACTION in your state - NOW. Some may have already done this! Let us know! Too important to sit back and let others do it for you. YOU have been called!!! Take Care? People who take care go nowhere! Take ACTION - NOW! Dot Bibee (tndothb@aol.com) (865) 577-7011 Sue Kurtz (dkurtz@aol.com) (865) 828-6068 Tennessee Committee to Restore the Constitution noregions.org [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Ban Lifted on Assassinations (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 13:53:14 PST On Jan 25, Steve Moser wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] http://www.copvcia.com/assassination_ban.htm HOUSE BILL PROPOSES LIFTING BAN ON ASSASSINATIONS BUSH ADMINISTRATION WASTING NO TIME IN MOVING TOWARD WAR FOOTING Armitage The Executioner FTW 1/24/01 - HR 19, Introduced by Republican Georgia Congressman Bob Barr on January 3, 2001, the first day of the new 107th Congress, would legislatively repeal sections of three Executive Orders specifically prohibiting assassinations by the United States Government. Entitled the "Terrorist Elimination Act of 2001", the bill, submitted to th= e House International Relations Committee, would specifically nullify section= s of three previous Executive Orders including one initiated by Ronald Reagan in 1981. It is interesting to note that acts of Congress are not required t= o nullify previous Executive Orders (EOs) which are, by definition, orders issued by the President and Commander in Chief to all federal employees (including military) under his authority. All that is necessary to reverse one EO is another EO. This is exactly what President George W. Bush did wit= h respect to EOs issued by President Clinton on the environment in the last days of his administration. Section 3 of HR 19 specifically states: "The following provisions of Executive orders shall have no further force o= r effect: (1) Section 5(g) of Executive Order 11905. (2) Section 2-305 of Executive Order 12306. (3) Section 2.11 of Executive Order 12333." [By Ronald Reagan] Section 5 (g) of Executive Order 11905, signed by Gerald Ford on 2/18/76 specifically prohibited "political" assassination. Section 2-305 of Executive Order 12036, signed 1/24/78 by Jimmy Carter renewed the ban. Section 2.11 of Executive Order 12333, signed by Ronald Reagan on 12/4/81 renewed the ban on assassinations, or conspiracy to commit assassinations, as part of a broader package which gave virtually complete control of the American National Security apparatus to then Vice President George H.W. Bush. The full text of HR 19 may be viewed at http://thomas.loc.gov. Enter a search in the 107th Congress for 19 and it will take you straight to the bill The bold move, unreported and ignored by any major media, offers a chance for an early referendum on the new administration's full-speed run at a mor= e violent and brutish foreign policy. The current bill, introduced by staunch Bush supporter and Clinton impeachment leader Barr, indicates that the Bush administration is seeking to add legitimacy to the move by implying that Congress and the American people support the action. This can only mean that there is quite likely a list of people the Bush Administration wants to start killing fairly quickly. The appointment of career covert operative and Annapolis graduate Richard Armitage as Deputy Secretary of State under Colin Powell only underscores the clear message that the Bush Administration is sending to th= e world. Armitage, who was denied a 1989 appointment as Assistant Secretary of State because of links to Iran-Contra and other scandals, served as Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs in the Reagan years= . U.S. Government stipulations in the Oliver North trial specifically named Armitage as one of the DoD officials responsible for illegal transfers of weapons to Iran and the Contras. But Armitage's dirty past goes much deeper= . A Vietnam veteran and graduate of Annapolis, Armitage's roots have been thoroughly intertwined with the likes of CIA veteran Ted Shackley, Richard Secord, Heine Aderholt, Elliot Abrams, Dewey Clarridge, Edwin Wilson and To= m Clines. All of these men have been directly linked to CIA covert operations= , the drug trade, the abandonment of U.S. prisoners of War after Vietnam and/or Iran-Contra. Armitage has also been routinely discussed in FTW as a Bush-era covert functionary who has been linked to covert operations, drug smuggling and the expansion of organized crime operations in Russia, Centra= l Asia and the Far East. In 1986 a private dispute between POW activist Ross Perot and Armitage went public as photos of Armitage with a topless Vietnamese nightclub owner Nguyen O'Rourke brought allegations of gambling and prostitution very close to Armitage's doorstep. The stories went public when TIME and "The Boston Globe" wrote lengthy stories on the feud in 1986 and 1987. That scandal arose as a result of 1984 investigations by President Reagan's Commission o= n Organized Crime in which the photo and documentation of gambling charges an= d prostitution led directly to Armitage's close association with O'Rourke. Then LAPD Assistant Chief Jesse Brewer, a former Commanding Officer of this writer, served on the Reagan Commission. The 1992 best-seller "Kiss The Boys Goodbye" by former "60 MINUTES" produce= r Monika Jensen-Stevenson details Armitage's role as Reagan point man on Vietnam POW-MIA issues and describes why Armitage has earned the enmity of many POW activists. However, in a 1995 interview with "The Washington Post"= , Colin Powell referred to Armitage as his "white son." This, notwithstanding the fact that the 6 foot, balding, power-lifter, now 56, can still bench press 300 or more pounds and reportedly "enjoys killing." William Tyree, Special Forces Veteran who has provided much reliable information and documentation to FTW in the past said, "Armitage used to 'sit ambush' on the trails in Laos and Cambodia. He liked it. Now when Powell, 'the dove,' sits down at a table with Armitage 'the killer' beside him the message will be that Armitage can reach across the table and deal with the other party on the spot." That message will not go unheard. [For more on Armitage we recommend using the search engine at www.copvcia.com and also at The Progressive Review, www.prorev.com.] There is reason to believe that a repeal of the assassination ban would lea= d to an immediate series of deaths. Remember, the Iran-Contra team is coming back to power with a vengeance. The completion of a February 11, 1982 memorandum between Reagan Attorney General William French Smith and CIA Director Bill Casey removed any requirement for CIA to report drug trafficking by its agents, contractors and proprietary employees. Immediately thereafter cocaine consumption into the United States multiplied as imports rose from approximately 80 tons in 1982 to 600 tons by 1989. [A copy of that memorandum, published by the CIA in 1998, is available in FTW's Extracts and Commentary on Volume II of the CIA Inspector General's Report" originally published on 10/8/98.] There are no choices and this is no longer a convenient exercise of protected liberty. This is now a true struggle against tyranny. Call your Congressman. Call your local media. Call your neighbor. A loud enough uproa= r can stop this criminal move in its tracks. Silence can only invite bloodshed. Special thanks to Mike Whybark and Jim Galasyn of Independent Media Centers for bringing this travesty to my attention. Please visit their site at http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=3D19541. Michael C. Ruppert Publisher/Editor "From The Wilderness" www.copvcia.com (c) Copyright 2001, From The Wilderness Publications and Michael C. Ruppert= . P.O. Box 60-350, Sherman Oaks, CA 91413. This message may be copied and reproduced in any "not-for-profit" mode so long as proper sourcing appears.= " More on the new Bush Administration will appear in the January issue of "From The Wilderness" for paid subscribers only. Michael C. Ruppert P.O. Box 6061-350, Sherman Oaks, CA 91413 * (818)788-8791 * fax(818)981-284= 7 * mruppert@copvcia.com =A9 COPYRIGHT 1998, 1999, 2000, MICHAEL C. RUPPERT. AL= [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: You and I must act quickly ! (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 13:54:31 PST On Jan 25, Ed BaBette Bechtold wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Message-ID: <200101250419.f0P4JXS07839@slackmail.webd2ms> You probably know by now that the vote for John Ashcroft's confirmation as Attorney General in the Senate Judiciary Committee has been pushed back one week. Senator Orrin Hatch said the opposition to the nomination is 'intense and relentless.' The Democrats have inundated Ashcroft with hundreds of questions for him to answer in writing before next Wednesday. The delayed vote gives the opposition groups - which are highly mobilized - even more time to promote their smear campaign. People for the American Way, Americans United for the Separation of Church and State, National Organization for Women, and others are mobilizing their activists - calling their senators asking them to reject Ashcroft. Tragically, this opposition is having an effect. But we cannot sit by and let this happen! We, too, can make a difference - and I will need your help. I'm asking you to do two things today: 1) CALL YOUR SENATOR through the Capitol Switchboard - 202.224.3121. I encourage you to have a polite and courteous conversation with your senator stressing that: a) Ashcroft is qualified to be Attorney General; b) Ashcroft should be confirmed not only because of his record, but also because of his commitment to equally enforce the laws of the land - including upholding the Constitution and rule of law; c) President Bush deserves the opportunity to appoint his own Attorney General. 2) SIGN THE PETITION today, if you haven't already done so, urging our leaders to confirm Ashcroft as Attorney General. https://www.donation-net.net/aclj/ashcroft.cfm?dn=1008&id=72886&commid=21 27918 We have more than 170,000 names of support on our petition so far. But we have another incredible opportunity to make our views heard during this one-week window before the vote! Before the Ashcroft nomination goes to the Senate floor for a vote, I want to be able to deliver to each and every senator a petition that includes more than 200,000 names. We are working hard in Washington to keep the senators aware of this growing effort of support. Please sign the petition today - and email this critical message to your friends! https://www.donation-net.net/aclj/ashcroft.cfm?dn=1008&id=72886&commid=21 27918 Your generous gift today will help us fight this battle and continue our ongoing efforts across the country to uphold the Constitution. Make your voice heard today! Jay Alan Sekulow, Chief Counsel American Center for Law and Justice HOW CAN I SUPPORT YOUR ORGANIZATION? Click on the link below to make a secure online credit card donation: https://www.donation-net.net/trans/e_trans.cfm?dn=1008&id=72886&commid=21 27918 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: H. R. 192 (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 15:36:41 PST On Jan 24, DAnde1706@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 1/22/01 1:48:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, AWright191 writes: > 107th CONGRESS > > 1st Session > > H. R. 192 > To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the 1993 increase in > income taxes on Social Security benefits. > > > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES > > January 3, 2001 > Mr. STUMP introduced the following bill; which was referred to the > Committee on Ways and Means > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > A BILL > To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal the 1993 increase in > income taxes on Social Security benefits. > > > Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United > States of America in Congress assembled, > > SECTION 1. REPEAL OF 1993 INCREASE IN TAX ON SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS. > > (a) IN GENERAL- Paragraph (2) of section 86(a) of the Internal Revenue Code > of 1986 (relating to social security and tier 1 railroad retirement > benefits) is amended by adding at the end the following new sentence: > > `This paragraph shall not apply to any taxable year beginning after > December 31, 2001.' > > (b) CONFORMING AMENDMENTS- > > (1) Paragraph (3) of section 871(a) of such Code is amended by striking `85 > percent' in subparagraph (A) and inserting `50 percent'. > > (2)(A) Subparagraph (A) of section 121(e)(1) of the Social Security > Amendments of 1983 (Public Law 98-21) is amended-- > > (i) by striking `(A) There' and inserting `There'; > > (ii) by striking `(i)' immediately following `amounts equivalent to'; and > > (iii) by striking `, less (ii)' and all that follows and inserting a period. > > (B) Paragraph (1) of section 121(e) of such Act is amended by striking > subparagraph (B). > > (C) Paragraph (3) of section 121(e) of such Act is amended by striking > subparagraph (B) and by redesignating subparagraph (C) as subparagraph (B). > > (D) Paragraph (2) of section 121(e) of such Act is amended in the first > sentence by striking `paragraph (1)(A)' and inserting `paragraph (1)'. > > (c) EFFECTIVE DATE- The amendments made by this section shall apply to > taxable years beginning after December 31, 2001. > END [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Diane Feinswine opposes Ashcroft (fwd) Date: 25 Jan 2001 23:21:58 PST On Jan 25, Dave wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:50:26 -0800 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 24, 2001 For more information contact: Christy Moore, (202) 547-8570 TVC Distributes James Hormel Sex Coloring Book To Freshmen Senators Washington, DC - Today, Traditional Values Coalition Executive Director Andrea Lafferty delivered copies of a sexually explicit coloring book to every freshman Senator on Capitol Hill. "We want every new Senator to see this coloring book because it clearly shows why John Ashcroft was so concerned about the appointment of homosexual activist James Hormel as U.S. Ambassador to Luxembourg." Ashcroft's confirmation as Attorney General has come under fire from liberal Senators on the Senate Judiciary Committee, in part because of his opposition to the Hormel nomination in 1999. The "Cunt Coloring Book," is a homosexual coloring book for children that is part of the James Hormel Gay and Lesbian Reading Center http://206.14.7.53/glcenter/ at the San Francisco Public Library. It contains page after page of drawings of female genitalia for children to color. Lafferty visited the Hormel reading center several years ago and discovered the coloring book, plus other reading materials that promoted incest and adult/child sex or pedophilia. San Francisco Public Library - Gay and Lesbian Center Mural http://206.14.7.53/glcenter/the_mural.htm "Senator Diane Feinstein has just announced that she will not vote for Ashcroft because his views are supposedly out of the mainstream," said Lafferty. "His views against homosexuality, child molestation, and pornographic coloring books may be out of the mainstream in San Francisco, but not in the rest of the nation. Feinstein is representing the views of sexual predators-not mainstream Americans." TVC wants every freshman Senator to look through the "C-t Coloring Book" promoted by James Hormel and then tell their constituents that they would have supported Hormel to be a U.S. Ambassador. "I think that most freshman Senators would be deeply offended by this pornographic material for children. These Senators should rise up to applaud Ashcroft for his opposition to Hormel for promoting this kind of obscene material in a public library." "Senator Ashcroft deserves our highest respect for his opposition to the Hormel nomination," said Lafferty. "He should not be condemned by pro-homosexual or ill-informed Senators." ____________________________________________________________________________ The Traditional Values Coalition is an interdenominational public policy organization comprising more than 43,000 churches across the continental United States and Puerto Rico. For more information, contact Christy Moore at 202-547-8570. Traditional Values Coalition Web site is: http://www.traditionalvalues.org/ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Sylvester Subject: Re: PARDON THE SEVEN WACO PRISONERS Date: 26 Jan 2001 03:05:42 -0600 At 12:09 PM 01/25/2001 -0700, roc-digest wrote: >Date: Tue, 23 Jan 01 11:19:25 PST >From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) >Subject: PARDON THE SEVEN WACO PRISONERS (Suggested form letter for >Presid... (fwd) > >On Jan 23, DAnde1706@aol.com wrote: > >[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > >In a message dated 1/21/01 10:23:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, AWright191 >writes: > > > In a message dated 01/21/2001 11:24:32 AM Central Standard Time, > > spiker@ev1.net writes: > > >... > > To: President@whitehouse.gov > > Cc: Vice-President@whitehouse.gov > > > > > > PARDON THE SEVEN WACO PRISONERS > > Renos Avraam > > Brad Branch > > Jaime Castillo > > Graeme Craddock > > Paul Fatta > > Livingstone Fagan > > Kevin Whitecliff > > > > Dear President Bush: > > > > We are most pleased to be able to call a man of honor by the title of > > President in place of the ignoble William Jefferson Clinton! We welcome > > you to the nation's Oval Office! > > > > And, now, to the matter at hand! > > Might want to add something about releasing the evidence, that is the supposed "illegal" machineguns. These have never been examined by other than BATF "experts". We need to know if there really were un-taxed machine guns in the place, and it the conversions were done before, or after the fire. My money is on after, assuing there were any at all, as the BATF "experts" testified. If there were none, or the conversions were done after the fire, people should go to jail, BATF type people. The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution. --Doug McKay" Joe Sylvester Don't Tread On Me ! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Roe v. Wade (fwd) Date: 26 Jan 2001 08:43:29 PST On Jan 25, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] George W. Bush was asked if he could sum up the significance of the Roe vs. Wade decision. He said, "It was the most important decision George Washington had to make, before crossing the Delaware." :-) [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Arkansas considers guns at schools (fwd) Date: 26 Jan 2001 08:44:34 PST On Jan 26, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] At least there are some attempts to stop the disarming of law abiding citizens. We all know that if some nut wants to go to a school-business-mall-post office-etc., and open fire they will. So why not have armed citizens in the area that can stop it, instead of adding them to the possible list of victims. Also on SCOPE's home page we have a link to NRA's Charlton Heston interview on The Alex Jones Show Regards, Peter M. Jeremich SCOPE Webmaster http://SCOPEny.org Email: Webmaster@SCOPEny.org Moderator, SCOPEny eGroup RKBA Discussion List: http://www.egroups.com/group/SCOPEny S.C.O.P.E. - Shooters' Committee On Political Education SCOPEny eGroup RKBA Discussion List: http://www.egroups.com/group/SCOPEny S.C.O.P.E. - Shooters' Committee On Political Education: http://SCOPEny.org http://www.dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/269060_arguns_23tex.A.html Arkansas considers guns at schools 01/23/2001 Associated Press LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - Days after the House approved a measure allowing guns in public parks and restaurants, an even more controversial measure is on the table: allowing guns on school property. Both bills were offered by Rep. Randy Minton, R-Ward. He says people with concealed-weapons permits have proved to be the "most responsible" residents. Mr. Minton plans to bring the gun measure to the House Education Committee on Tuesday. Mr. Minton says that permit holders have earned the right to carry weapons and that it's a hassle for those who drop off their kids at school but have weapons in their cars. "These are our model citizens. It's an inconvenience for those who travel," Mr. Minton said. In a state where memories of the Jonesboro school shooting are still fresh, others say guns don't belong anywhere near schools. "We want guns as far away from schools as possible," said Linda Pondexter, president of the Arkansas Education Association, which opposes the bill. "We understand people can make mistakes, but mistakes can end in death." Rep. Tracy Steele, D-North Little Rock, added: "I don't think the way to solve problems in a violent community is with violence. There's a chance that too many innocent people can be hurt." Rep. Dean Elliott, R-Maumelle, said he hadn't made up his mind on the issue, but "I don't know that there's a lot of support for Representative Minton's bill." The bill says that those with concealed-weapons permits can tote guns onto school property. The Arkansas Association of Educational Administrators has safety concerns and opposes the bill as it stands. "We feel it's not appropriate under any conditions to have a gun on school property," assistant director Charles Knox said. Mr. Minton said he would narrow the legislation to allow weapons only in vehicles as parents drop off their kids and require that the weapons not be removed from the vehicles. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BludyRed@aol.com Subject: Send President Reagan a Free Birthday Card Date: 28 Jan 2001 02:10:05 EST Friends, Consider this. We, as Americans, owe this man an enormous debt of gratitude. Regards, Dennis Baron ----------------------------------------------------------- HELP WISH THE GIPPER A HAPPY 90th! JUST 9 DAYS TO PRESIDENT REAGAN'S BIRTHDAY!! Would you help us honor Ronald Reagan as he celebrates his 90th birthday on February 6th? http://www.grassfire.net/reagan.asp?CID=40&PID=450142 A friend of yours has already added their name to a special "Commemorative Collection" in honor of President Reagan's 90th birthday, and they are asking you to do the same. Simply click the link below to include your name with those from across America who want to extend their birthday greetings and best wishes to President Reagan. There is even a place for you to add your own personal note of appreciation to President Reagan. http://www.grassfire.net/reagan.asp?CID=40&PID=450142 Grassfire.net will compile the well wishes in a special "90th Birthday Commemorative" designed to serve as a lasting tribute to Ronald Reagan. We have already contacted the Reagan Presidential Library Foundation and they have agreed to include this Collection in the permanent archives at the Reagan library! Plus, our contact says she will personally make sure that Nancy Reagan sees the Collection, complete with your personal note of appreciation! We have just a few days until the Gipper's 90th Birthday. Especially with the President recently facing hip surgery, your best wishes and tribute will surely be warmly received. And be sure to add your own PERSONAL NOTE OF APPRECIATION when joining this tribute. Thanks! Grassfire.net P.S. We have included some classic photos of President Reagan and excerpts from some speeches for you to read when you add your name to the tribute. But please don't delay. President Reagan's 90th birthday is February 6th, just 9 days away! http://www.grassfire.net/reagan.asp?CID=40&PID=450142 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: VIP - Projects - Voting Technology(Paper on Internet Voting) (fwd) Date: 29 Jan 2001 11:15:37 PST On Jan 29, Steve Moser wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] So you're ready to vote via the internet, read this first! Steve M. http://www.voting-integrity.org/projects/votingtechnology/internetvoting/ivp _title.shtml [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Electronic Voting Machines Alert(from 1992) (fwd) Date: 29 Jan 2001 11:14:29 PST On Jan 29, Steve Moser wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] I might add that Sequoia Pacific's name comes up a lot in books and articles about vote fraud. Not that I'm implying that is their mission;^} Steve M. http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/13.72.html#subj1.1 Electronic Voting Machines Alert Rebecca Mercuri Wed, 12 Aug 92 04:16:11 EDT On July 23, 1992, New York City Mayor Dinkins announced in a press conference that the $60,000,000 contract to replace the city's mechanical voting machines with electronic voting systems (EVM) would be awarded to Sequoia Pacific, pending the outcome of public hearings. The city's press release included the following statement: "In January 1989, SRI determined that Sequoia Pacific was best positioned and most willing to modify its system to meet the needs of New York City and New York State standards." In actuality, SRI's Final Report (Evaluation of Offerors for the Procurement of an Electronic Voting System, December 23, 1988) contained the following first sentences under FINDINGS: "No offeror's system completely meets the RFP specifications. On the basis of our analysis and the testing of the EVMs, SRI concludes that no offeror currently has either an EVM or central system acceptable for the city." They went on to say: "No offeror scored higher than 63% of the total possible RFP and evaluation criteria points." And: "SRI does not believe any of the four offerors has fully met the requirements of the RFP, based on their proposed EVMs, their central systems, and/or management and financial considerations. Each offeror would have to make substantial, significant modifications and additions -- in both technical and management areas -- for its approach to be considered acceptable for the City." SRI went on to recommend Sequoia on the basis that of the four offerors, they had the greatest "probability of ... successfully implementing an electronic voting system for New York City." Does the record indicate that Sequoia has or can successfully implement a system for New York City? You decide. Here is some information from public documents: Monroe County, Indiana vs. Sequoia Pacific: "In December, 1988, Monroe County, Indiana, filed a lawsuit against A. E. Boyce and SP, alleging that the defendants breached a contract between the County and Boyce whereby Sequoia was to have manufactured and Boyce was to have delivered to the County 120 automatic voting machines. Only 40 of the machines were delivered and Sequoia subsequently ceased production of the model which was the subject of the contract." "In December, 1990, the case was settled by the parties. The contract in question was terminated..." On July 11, 1990 the Sequoia Pacific Electronic Voting System was denied certification in the state of Pennsylvania on the following grounds: "(1) The system does not conform to Pennsylvania statutory requirements for overriding straight-party votes in individual offices; (2) the system can be placed inadvertently in a mode in which the voter is unable to vote for certain candidates, which is volative of statute; and (3) the system reports straight- party votes in a bizarre and inconsistent manner." The NY City Board of Elections stated in a letter on January 3, 1991 that: "The vendor has admitted to us that release 2.04 of their software used in the Pennsylvania certification process had just been modified and that it was a mistake to have used it even in a certification demonstration." In what appears to be the final updated evaluation by SRI (June 19, 1991) of the Sequoia Pacific EVM and its Programmable Memory Device (PMD) which contains the vote tally, under the heading of Reliability, the testing status report from Sequoia Pacific stated: "SP doesn't know how to show that EVM/PMD meets requirement -- this depends on poll workers' competence." If the above concerns you, here's what you can do: 1. Attend and comment at the public hearings in New York City. It is critical that individuals have their opinions on this matter stated for the record, BEFORE the contracts are presented for signing. New York City residents as well as ALL other interested parties are permitted to attend. The meetings are: August 20, 42nd & Broadway, 6th Floor, 6PM September 10, City Hall, 10AM (tentative) 2. Request documents from the city under the Freedom of Information Act. Contact Lorraine Jones at 212/566-3307 in the Department of General Services. You may wish to request all or some of the following: A. SRI Final Report, Volume I, December 23, 1988, Evaluation of Offerors for the Procurement of an Electronic Voting System. B. SRI Updated Evaluation of the Sequoia Pacific EVM, June 19, 1991. C. Technical Specifications including - System Requirements Documents System Design Documents System Quality Documents System Verification Plan System Test Plan Results of Entire System Test D. A list of other publications relevant to this matter. 3. Write letters of concern and comment to: Daniel DeFrancesco Executive Director Board of Elections City of New York General Office, 32 Broadway New York, NY 10004 cc separate copy to Stephanie Dawson Director, NYC Elections Project at the address above Kenneth Knuckles Commissioner Department of General Services Municipal Building, 17th Floor New York, NY 10007 cc all correspondence to Election Watch P.O. Box 1166 Philadelphia, PA 19105 4. If you are a member of ACM, IEEE or other professional, computing or engineering organizations, encourage your officers and club members to become involved and informed on this issue. 5. Forward this posting to everyone you believe would be interested in commenting on this matter. Rebecca Mercuri mercuri@gradient.cis.upenn.edu [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [Washington Times] Excerpt from today's Inside Politics (fwd) Date: 30 Jan 2001 10:41:50 PST On Jan 30, Kevin M. McGehee wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] http://www.washtimes.com/national/inpolitics.htm January 30, 2001 Inside Politics Greg Pierce News and political dispatches from around the nation. WHAT GOES AROUND . . . Sen. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, has spent recent weeks accusing Attorney General-nominee John Ashcroft of being racially insensitive. Now Mr. Schumer himself faces charges that he is a racist. Robert Johnson, founder of Black Entertainment Television, in a Jan. 17 letter to Mr. Schumer, accused the senator of trying to get the Justice Department to derail his plan to create a black-owned airline, the New York Post reports. "As an African-American businessperson who has a personal net worth significantly greater than the market capitalization of [rival companies] Jet Blue and Air Tran combined, I am offended that you could argue that these two companies deserve an opportunity that should be denied to me," Mr. Johnson wrote. "It cannot be that you believe that they are better businesspersons; perhaps it is because they are white businesspersons." Mr. Johnson, in an interview with reporter Fredric U. Dicker, said: "If Schumer was a Republican and not a Democrat, everyone would be jumping up and down saying, 'How dare you not support us?' I'm trying to figure out what the rationale is for someone who is a member of the liberal Democratic Party to oppose DC Air -when that party has a fundamental commitment to minority ownership and equal opportunities for minorities." Asked whether he was accusing Mr. Schumer of racism, Mr. Johnson replied: "If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck and quacks like a duck. . . ." Mr. Schumer, in an interview with the Post, denied he is a racist. He said he opposes Mr. Johnson's deal with American Airlines because, in his opinion, it will not bring lower fares or better service to New York state. Two of New York's top black Democratic officials spoke up in Mr. Schumer's defense. State Comptroller Carl McCall and Rep. Charles B. Rangel said that, in their opinion, Mr. Schumer is not a bigot. They did not say if he might be guilty of racial insensitivity. © 2001 News World Communications, Inc. ================================ Kevin M. McGehee Coweta County, Georgia mcgehee@charter.net http://www.McGeheeZone.com/ "Would you think I was joking if I said that you can put a clock back, and that if the clock is wrong it is often a very sensible thing to do?" -- C.S. Lewis, in *Mere Christianity* [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: VIN: The Last Food Fight (fwd) Date: 30 Jan 2001 10:43:30 PST On Jan 29, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz The Last Food Fight -- Clinton staff proves a class act to the end At the time he published his book "Unlimited Access: An FBI Agent Inside the Clinton White House," Gary Aldrich was accused of exaggerating his reports of undignified conduct at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue -- everything from the Hillary Clinton throwing lamps, to prophylactics hung by the Christmas tree with care, to unusual sex acts in inappropriate places. Either that, or the feeling seemed to be that Mr. Aldrich was -- at the least -- a bit of a prude; a member of the hired help who had no business carrying tales. But as the truth about the gang that has occupied the nation's first house for the past eight years -- setting records for the number of staffers granted "permanent waivers" from normally routine tests for illicit drug use, for instance, while continuing to hypocritically jail hundreds of thousands of young men of color for the same behavior -- the public may yet wish they had paid closer attention to Mr. Aldrich's warnings. The Washington Post reports Bush officials moving into their offices last week found obscene messages left in copying machines, while the ''W'' key had been popped off many computer keyboards. (George Walker Bush had made a three-fingered ''W'' his signature salute in the waning days of his campaign.) Initially, such incidents were portrayed as harmless hijinks. But by Thursday, Bush officials were describing serious damage -- including cut computer and telephone cords -- that has cost taxpayer money to repair. According to a report in last week's Washington Times, Clinton staffers flying Air Force One to New York after the Bush inauguration virtually cleaned out the plane of anything that wasn't nailed down, from blankets and pillows to champagne glasses and tubes of toothpaste. Much of what couldn't be stolen was destroyed. Meantime, while Senate ethics rules prevent her from accepting gifts worth more than $50 after her swearing-in as New York's freshman senator on Jan. 20, the Associated Press now reports Hillary Clinton skirted those rules by assigning her friend, Rita Pynoos of Beverly Hills, Calif., to solicit gifts from supporters worth more than $190,000 before the deadline -- sofas, easy chairs, rugs, paintings, china, and sculpture which will now be used to furnish the Clintons' two new homes: a five-bedroom house in Chappaqua, N.Y. and another five-bedroom home in the Embassy Row area of Washington. Actress Mary Steenburgen and her husband, Ted Danson, gave $4,787 in china. The Post further reports a high-ranking Bush campaign official has accused some Clinton staffers of taking White House paintings and trying to have them shipped to themselves. Others are said to have steamed official seals off office doors and tried to have those shipped. In response, the incoming Bush administration ordered all packages X-rayed starting at noon Saturday. Ours is an informal nation. President Washington didn't wish anyone to bow before him, or call him "majesty." No one expects today's White House staff to wear starched collars on weekends. But liberal commentators may yet have cause to regret the eight years they spent ridiculing all warnings that Mr. Clinton and his staff were permanently eroding the respect formerly afforded the nation's highest office. Sometimes the little things speak volumes about people's underlying attitudes. From the day they moved into the White House, Mr. Clinton's Best and Brightest have evoked hushed dismay among long-time Washingtonians with their sense of entitlement and their level of thoughtless arrogance -- staffers right up to the first family expecting Marine sentries to act as busboys and bellhops; men as distinguished as Vernon Jordan sent to chauffeur the president's mopsy to prestigious Pentagon job interviews. It should thus have come as no great surprise when this sense of entitlement led Mr. Clinton to rent out the Lincoln Bedroom to Red Chinese agents bearing bags of campaign cash in exchange for classified missile technology -- when such disrespect for any person or institution not part of "their crowd" soon extended to the Clintons' savage defamation of their political opponents, of the credibility and purity and even sanity of each in the chain of women who reluctantly came forward to complain about Mr. Clinton's sexual aggression -- even to the arrogant and unjustified treatment of a church full of innocent women and children in Waco, Texas. There is one bright side to these revolting displays. The desperation of the Clintons and their staff to skirt every rule, take every advantage, cart off everything that's not tied down, may at least show they've subconsciously realized Americans have begun to wise up to their act -- that they're not likely to get back into the White House again in their lifetimes. And that would be a good thing. Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Review-Journal. His book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available by dialing 252-0655; or via web site www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "When great changes occur in history, when great principles are involved, as a rule the majority are wrong. The minority are right." -- Eugene V. Debs (1855-1926) "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken * * * [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Boxer is right! (fwd) Date: 30 Jan 2001 16:29:53 PST On Jan 30, House, David Alan wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] I know that is an astounding admission, but for once she is right. Barbara Boxer, ultra-liberal pro-big government Dem. Senator from California, while speaking today on her confirmation opinions regarding Gale Norton for Secretary of the Interior, seems to severely revile the thought that Norton's perspective of State's Rights, and post Civil War loss of such, is 'way out there'. Indeed from her opinion such ideas are 'way out there'. The fact is that she, along with most of our nation, have been prevented from knowing the whole truth. She is apparently entirely unaware that the esteemed General Lee predicted that slavery would have gone away without a Civil War and the attendant atrocious loss of life, limb, and property. Though no reasonable protectors of freedom desire an extension of the uncivil slave practices even under the most harmonious of circumstances, Lee's expectation puts a light on the situation which decries the results of the war in pathos as well as governance. Boxer seems to oddly ignore the fact that the Constitution had to be savaged and trampled under foot in order to salvage the 'union' of the states. Such perspectives remind me too well of the current liberal attitudes which proclaim that we are much better off to consider the brilliant and happy ultimate presumed Shangri-La outcome which we can expect even when we pursue actions which should be considered to be beneath us. It seems most of our nation do indeed prefer to modify the cry, 'The Ends are Justified by the Means'. This is a complete misrepresentation and will lead us to some variety of ruin depending upon how closely we apply ourselves to this 'new' moral of wisdom. The methods used are just as important as the destination desired and if we are willing to put ourselves into a position of debauchery and thievery in order to reach a goal of honor and morality we shall not receive nor be deserving of either. Boxer wants us to see history through her eyes, and she may well be honest in her belief of her facts, but I prefer that so long as the attitude of she and her compatriots remains to have an affect upon us, we cannot have truth or a government based upon such. If we violate one portion of the Constitution in order to support another particular ideal, then we may as well pitch the whole thing because it becomes only a figurehead. Boxer points a ridiculing finger at Gale Norton for proclaiming her allegiance to the Constitution regardless of the ecologic consequences. Boxer has no faith in the Constitution nor in the private ownership of land. She is not interested in the personal pride of ownership which derives from the individual in possession of property. Gale Norton has the understanding that for her to perform her duties in accord with the 'rule of law', she must first and foremost apply the test of the Constitution. It is this which so frightens the liberal cabal, and we can find the same kind of frightening resolve in Mr. Ashcroft. These are the Constitutional Patriots we have been waiting for and it is now up to us to assure that they be allowed to repair such of our government as they may have responsibility for. There should be no allowance for industry to do what government has done. Either is equally injurious to freedom. But personal ownership is the heart and soul of preservation. This is a vision Boxer will never understand. Boxer is right when she says Norton is 'way out there', but the 'way out there' is where the nation was founded. Beyond the ecological extremism which has gripped California, beyond the rapid-fire executive orders, and beyond the debasement of the Constitution some 150 years ago. We must focus on the origin and what was intended, and what were considered to be reasonable and achievable goals. If Norton is 'way out there' then I am ecstatic to be as well. Welcome Gale, John, and anyone else who will not be satisfied to let things go along as they are. Our Generals have arrived and all the remains for us is to fall in rank and begin to march, as has been quoted, 'to the sound of the guns'. David House housed@indiana.edu [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: SRA - Gun Industry Countersuit Out of Funds. (fwd) Date: 30 Jan 2001 19:48:58 PST On Jan 30, Brad3000 wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FYI - This is a real BIG shame.... CAN we help? Email Jon. Gun industry countersuit out of ammo Support drying up for pro-2nd Amendment organization By Jon Dougherty = © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com Email: jdougherty@worldnetdaily.com http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21525 The efforts of a pro-Second Amendment organization to file litigation against 31 cities "that have been trying since 1998 to bankrupt the gun industry" are, a year after the group's formation, losing momentum and financial wherewithal. The Civil Liberties Defense Foundation says the cities are attempting to hold gun makers responsible for the costs associated with violent gun crime by filing class action suits. Since January 2000, former Texas state Sen. Jerry Patterson and Reps. Suzanna Hupp, Rick Green and Bob Turner "have worked tirelessly" crisscrossing the country, attending fundraising events and appearing in media venues whenever possible to "raise awareness" about the countersuit "and enough money to enable [CLDF] to proceed with its lawsuit to protect the Second Amendment," the group said in a statement released Friday. But now, organization leaders are becoming exasperated with what they have characterized as a general "lack of support" that may cause the foundation to drop its countersuit plans altogether -- something leaders really don't want to do because of the continuing risk of litigation from anti-gun city and municipal officials. Despite a small string of legal victories for the gun industry last year, the class action suits are still tied up in litigation and still pose a danger to the industry and, CDLF says, all gun owners. The group's lawsuit, which was eventually filed last November in a Texas district court in Lubbock, is an attempt "to keep these cities from damaging our right to keep and bear arms and the right of gun stores to conduct their businesses free from harassing lawsuits," according to Hupp, who lost her parents when a gunman killed them and a dozen others in a Luby's Restaurant shooting in Killeen, Texas, in 1991. "We want to put a stop, once and for all, to the attempts by litigious attorneys to hold lawful industries liable for the criminal misuse of their products," added Patterson, who founded the Civil Liberties Defense Foundation. "If we do not stop them now, the alcohol, automotive and countless other industries will be attacked next," he said, adding that such legal action would send prices for those products "skyward" and would affect "the availability and affordability of products for the average consumer." "We are desperately searching for a knight in shining armor to come to the rescue of this lawsuit and our right to keep and bear arms," the statement released Friday said. "However, our hope is beginning to fade." The Civil Liberties Defense Foundation said a "lack of support from most gun-rights organizations and almost all of the gun stores" contacted by group members has not thwarted efforts to get the suit researched and at least filed in court. However, "we still have not raised enough money to carry us through a lengthy litigation" of the kind municipalities are able to carry out. "For that reason, we have refrained from serving the defendants with the paperwork necessary to proceed with the case. Once we do that, we will be locked into a battle we currently don't have the resources to win." The group's officials said it "has concluded that if we are unable to raise at least $100,000 by the service of process deadline," or mid-February, "we will be forced to withdraw the case and live to fight another day." Foundation officials said the gun lawsuits have already had an adverse effect on the gun manufacturers. For example, Colt announced last fall that because of the lawsuits, it will no longer sell certain handguns to the public. In addition, several manufacturers have filed for bankruptcy protection, "with more expected to do so in the near future." Smith & Wesson also signed an agreement last year with the Clinton administration that bypasses the legislative process and imposes gun control on Smith & Wesson and the gun stores that buy from them, though the company has since retreated from some of those provisions. It is unclear whether the Justice Department, under an Attorney General John Ashcroft, would continue federal participation in the municipal suits. During testimony last week before the Senate Judiciary Committee, Ashcroft was non-committal on the future of the gun suits and federal suits against the tobacco industry, though Ashcroft has a well-established record of supporting most gun rights. The group also said several Texas gun stores had expressed an interest in becoming parties to its countersuit, alleging that the anti-gun industry suits were infringements of their rights to freely conduct business under the Constitution's Commerce Clause. The provision "forbids state and local governments from enacting laws or policies that place an undue burden on interstate commerce," the group said. "Based on the Commerce Clause, the U.S. Supreme Court has consistently held unconstitutional state and local laws that seek to regulate business in other states and will certainly frown upon the current attempts." Related story: Texas lawmakers sue cities over gun suits **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: SRA - Warriors & Weapons... (fwd) Date: 30 Jan 2001 19:47:20 PST On Jan 30, Brad3000 wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FYI - Read. Interesting. Warriors and Weapons by David A. Yeagley - FrontPageMagazine.com | January 26, 2001 http://www.frontpagemag.com/columnists/yeagley/2001/dy01-26-01p.htm A YEAR AGO, I had a religious experience. No, I didn't speak in tongues. I didn't see an apparition of Mary. And even though I'm Comanche Indian, I didn't commune with my ancestors or hear the eagles talk. All I did was watch a TV infomercial produced by the National Rifle Association (NRA). There I was, sitting in my easy chair, eating chicken soup and watching television. Suddenly, I saw an immense pile of guns, thousands of them, being bulldozed into a metal crusher. The narrator explained. These weapons had been confiscated from law-abiding citizens, and were being destroyed. The government had first required the people to register their firearms, and promised that no confiscation would ever occur. Then the government broke its promise. According to the voice-over, this happened in Australia, England, and Canada. The United States was next in line. On the screen appeared distraught gun owners, one after another. "They said they would never do this, but they did it! Don't let this happen to you!" they warned Americans. We Comanches don t usually admit to being scared. But I was terrified.I had a sense that I was losing America (and, as an Indian, it wouldn t be the first time). I guess I d always known, in the back of my mind, that there were people out there trying to take our guns. But those faces on TV drove the point home like nothing else had. They were the faces of a people betrayed. Long ago, the government took away the Indian's weapons and put him on reservations. That is history. Indians know all about broken promises. But why would the White Man betray himself? Why would the U.S. government take the weapons away from its own good citizens? They say they re trying to stop crime. But the more gun laws they pass, the more crime we get. A hundred years ago, we didn t have gun laws and we didn t have much crime either. In his book, More Guns, Less Crime, Yale Law School economist John Lott shows that, across the United States, over an 18-year period, "states experiencing the greatest reductions in crime are also the ones with the fastest growing percentages of gun ownership. So why does the government keep pushing gun control? The warrior in me knows. He who takes my bow is not my friend. He who takes away my ability to defend myself is my enemy. If the government takes our guns, it s not because they are trying to help us. It s because they are trying to control us. Since my religious experience of watching that documentary, I ve found myself wondering why Indians have not played a bigger role in the gun rights debate. Weapons are an integral part of our culture. In Indian country, it s taken for granted that everyone shoots and hunts. Perhaps the use of arms is so fundamental to us that we don t even think of it as a right that can be lost. Recently, I visited Indian friends of the Salish-Kootenay Reservation in Montana. It was a few days before a funeral. Extra food was needed for the mourners. "I've got to go get a deer," my friend Terry said, as simply as most Americans would say "I've got to go to the store." Among Indians, the weapon is a symbol of honor. In Comanche tradition, the young man grew up with the bow. Its mastery was a test of manhood. The relationship of man and weapon was intimate and lifelong. Every Comanche learned to fight and hunt. If you weren t waging war, you were preparing for war. It was the duty of every member of the tribe to be ready, just in case. In modern America, women seem to have turned against their own men over the gun issue, judging by the polls and the Million Mom March. Indian women have a different mindset. It was the women who taught Comanche boys how to use their weapons. Long before anyone ever heard of Xena the Warrior Princess, a woman called the a diva, or governess ran the Comanche training camps. Americans nowadays seem to be forgetting what it means to be a warrior. They don t value preparedness. They think the government will always be there to defend them from enemies and criminals. But that s not the Indian way. That s not the way of a man. I m glad the NRA is out there spreading this message. It has earned this Indian s blessing for helping to keep the warrior spirit alive. To show support for adding Dr. Yeagleys patriotism course to the Oklahoma public school curriculum, contact: Governor Frank Keating Office of the Governor State Capitol Building Oklahoma City, OK 73105 governor@gov.state.ok.us E-mail Dr. David A. Yeagley: badeagle2000@yahoo.com **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [FPE] Stop Military Voter Fraud (fwd) Date: 31 Jan 2001 10:20:47 PST On Jan 30, Rich Martin wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] --- pro2am@webtv.net wrote: > To: FPE@yahoogroups.com > From: pro2am@webtv.net > Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 18:27:15 -0600 (CST) > Reply-to: FPE@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FPE] Stop Military Voter Fraud > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > From: > Subject: Stop Military Voter Fraud > Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 15:02:32 -0600 > To: undisclosed-recipients: ; > > Western Journalism Center > Military Vote Fraud -- E-mail Petition > January 30, 2001 > JOSEPH FARAH > Editor in Chief, WorldNetDaily.Com > Founder, Western Journalism Center > > > Dear Friend of WorldNetDaily: > > Do you believe the men and women who serve in our > nation's armed forces > should have the right to vote and have their votes > counted in the 2002 > election? 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My friend, if > you and I don't demand action -- a full > congressional investigation -- > then Democrat leaders in Congress are going to push > it out of sight. > > In fact, Democrat Senate Leader Tom Daschle is > working to kill a bill that > would ensure the men and women in our military have > the opportunity to > vote and have their vote counted! > > I need you to help WJC go forward with its > investigation without delay! > I've attached a link below that will allow you to do > two things: > > * Join the national campaign demanding Congress take > action to protect our > military personnel's right to vote by signing our > NATIONAL PETITION: > PROTECT OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL'S VOTING RIGHTS! We > want to send 250,000 > petitions to new Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld > and the members of > Congress who sit on the powerful armed forces > committees in the House and > Senate. > > * Make a tax-deductible, secure credit card > contribution of $20, $35, $50, > $100, $500 or more to Western Journalism Center. > WJC must raise $36,500 > over the next 45 days to track down the growing > number of leads Ken is > uncovering in this story. > > Ken has already uncovered a cesspool of pre-election > corruption by > Clinton/Gore prior to last November 7. Now he's > mired deep in more > interviews and ready to shake the powers responsible > for the shameful > voter fraud that nearly brought us to a > constitutional crisis -- people > who are prepared to pull the same dirty tricks again > in 2002 unless we > expose them now! But we need to raise the funds to > proceed as quickly as > possible. > > Here is the link: > http://www.westernjournalism.com/voterfraud/military.htm > > I've pledged to WJC President Jim Smith that > WorldNetDaily will publish > every inch of Ken's story on our far-reaching news > pages. And we're also > working with editors from other major media, like > Insight magazine, who > have the courage to print this story in its > entirety. > > But WJC needs your help. Right now! Sign WJC's > NATIONAL PETITION: > PROTECT OUR MILITARY PERSONNEL'S VOTING RIGHTS! > Let's send a message > right now to Secretary Rumsfeld and the members of > the armed forces > committees in the House and Senate that our men and > women in uniform MUST > have their right to vote protected and have their > votes counted! > > Why would Tom Daschle want to prevent the Americans > who are sent thousands > of miles away to protect his position in the Senate, > among other things, > from voting? And why would America's mainstream > media elite ignore this > injustice? Can you think of anything more > un-American? > > I can't. And I believe you're as fed up with this > as I am. So please, > click on this link now, "sign" your e-mail PETITION > and make a generous > tax-deductible contribution of $20, $35, $50, $100, > $500 or more to > Western Journalism Center right now. > > Please click this link now: > http://www.westernjournalism.com/voterfraud/military.htm > > Thank you for your past support of not only > WorldNetDaily but Western > Journalism Center as well. We keep fighting to > deliver the truth to the > American people, and our readership continues to > grow. But WJC is > dedicated to changing the biased culture of our > media -- they deserve > every bit of support we can offer today. May God > bless you and your > family. > > Sincerely, > > Joseph Farah > Editor in Chief, WorldNetDaily.com > Founder, Western Journalism Center > > P.S.: Please act right now. We're going to make > this a long-term > project -- END VOTER FRAUD in 2002. So it's > imperative WJC continue its > investigation without any delays. But, of course, > you can only proceed as > long as you have the funds to do so. That's why > your help is needed. If > we don't get the truth out, I guarantee the > Democrats in Congress and > their mainstream media accomplices will kill this > story -- and the same > type of fraud will take place in the 2002 election! > > Here is the link again: > http://www.westernjournalism.com/voterfraud/military.htm > > Thanks again. > > > > ___________________________ > Please do not respond to this message. > This WND subscriber alert is handled by a system > which does not > process incoming mail. > > This list is distributed to those who have requested > the WorldNetDaily News Alert service. 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