From: Bill Vance Subject: "American Sovereign Restoration Act" (H. R. 1146) Date: 02 Jul 2001 12:12:57 -0700 ----- Forwarded message from "RJK.Sr" <2a.rkba@mail.riverview.net> ----- In a surprising announcement, Rep Henry Hyde (R-IL), chairman of=20 the House International Relations Committee and former chief=20 impeachment manager, has stated that he would vote for Rep. Ron=20 Paul=92s (R-TX) "American Sovereign Restoration Act" (H. R. 1146),=20 which calls for U. S. withdrawal from the United Nations. This tacit=20 endorsement of the bill will give it momentum for more co- sponsors, possible committee hearings and eventual floor action.=20 This legislation is the best way to protect American sovereignty=20 and our billions in tax dollars from greedy and corrupt globalists. In=20 the states of Utah, New Mexico and Washington, several towns=20 and localities are already taking up their own anti-U. N. council=20 measures. CIC urges supporters to contact their Congressman and=20 demand his or her support of =20 H.R.1146. Click to=20 http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html ----- End forwarded message ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Ace needs to hear from you (fwd) Date: 02 Jul 2001 18:22:17 -0700 K-Mart recently dumped Rosie O'Donnell in response to a boycott by gun owners. Why is Ace Hardware risking the same? http://www.acehardware.com/paintbrand/paint/PaintRosie.asp Why don't you write to Ace from their web page at the URL above, and let them know how you feel about their error? I did - Charles. *********************************** I'm sorry to see that Ace has fallen into the trap that Kmart pulled itself out of, namely that of using Rosie O'Donnell as a spokeswoman or pitch-person. As one who values my civil rights, I stopped going to Kmart when she spoke out against firearms owners while secretly hiring armed guards for her OWN children. Her hypocrisy is intolerable to me. I started going back to Kmart when they terminated they contract with her. Now it seems I'm going to have to stop going to Ace hardware, and to pass this sorry news on to my friends and associates. Too bad, I've bought a lot of stuff from your stores over the years. Fortunately, WalMart and Lowe's and others haven't made the mistake of lining themselves up with Rosie the Hypocrite and I can still buy what I need in those stores. I might miss Ace hardware sometimes, but not much, not as long as that woman is working for you. Good day - good bye - Charles Riggs, Frankfort, Ky. Charles Riggs - Orange Gunsite - DVC! "Stop Crime-Be Armed-Fight Back!" ************************************ 1st VP KC3 - IDPA(KY) - GOA - NRA ************************************ http://www.kc3.org/sheep.htm (a parable for our times) ************************************ The Kentucky IDPA Studies Group is at: http://www.electricrain.com/~tyler/IDPASG -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: McCain Recall Poll (fwd) Date: 04 Jul 2001 15:45:48 -0700 What do ya say, give us a hand out here? :-) >Status: U >Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2001 18:57:59 -0700 >From: RDeStep >Subject: McCain Recall Poll >Sender: Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Arizona >To: AZRKBA@asu.edu >X-To: Angel Shamaya , > anti-antigun , > TUG Announce >Reply-to: Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Arizona >MIME-version: 1.0 >X-Accept-Language: en > >I rarely do internet polls, but this one is too juicy. > >Please chime in.... > >Should McCain be recalled? > >http://www.azcentral.com/news/election/ > >Today's poll > >Should Sen. John McCain be recalled? > >Yes: 63.24% >No: 36.76% > >Total votes: 1050 -- Tavares@alum.mit.edu | http://home.earthlink.net/~cdtavares | RKBA! A woman who demands further gun control legislation is like a chicken who roots for Colonel Sanders. --LARRY ELDER -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: [govtwatch] Politician Winners List - Rep Henry Hyde (fwd) Date: 04 Jul 2001 15:47:16 -0700 This is HOT! Get YOUR congressman to sign on! Semper fi; Dave Politician Winners List Rep Ron Paul Rep Henry Hyde Henry Hyde: In a surprising announcement, Rep Henry Hyde (R-IL), chairman of the House International Relations Committee and former chief impeachment manager, has stated that he would vote for Rep. Ron Paul's (R-TX) "American Sovereign Restoration Act" (H. R. 1146), which calls for U. S. withdrawal from the United Nations. This tacit endorsement of the bill will give it momentum for more co-sponsors, possible committee hearings and eventual floor action. This legislation is the best way to protect American sovereignty and our billions in tax dollars from greedy and corrupt globalists. In the states of Utah, New Mexico and Washington, several towns and localities are already taking up their own anti-U. N. council measures. CIC urges supporters to contact their Congressman and demand his or her support of H.R.1146. Click to http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.html Incense Every able bodied man is a member of the militia by constitutional law. Join Today! http://www.icvmmilitia.homestead.com/links.html -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: HUMOR: America (fwd) Date: 05 Jul 2001 17:21:23 -0700 America When white man found this land, Indians were running it. No taxes... No debt... Plenty buffalo... Plenty beaver! Women did most of the work; Indian men hunted and fished all the time! White man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Kenneth Mitchell" Subject: Toward Tradition Date: 05 Jul 2001 19:33:13 -0700 7:30 PM, July 5: Any of you in the Sacramento, CA area, please turn IMMEDIATELY to KFBK Radio. Mark Williams is interviewing Rabbi Daniel Lapin, founder of Toward Tradition, a new interfaith group devoted to combatting the new state religion of secular liberalism/humanism in America. You'll like what you hear. Everybody else, check out www.towardtradition.org. You'll like what you see. Ken Mitchell Citrus Heights, CA ken@creativemindssacramento.com 916-955-9152 916-729-0966 (fax) -------http://www.creativemindssacramento.com---------------------- "It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood; if they be repealed or revised before they are promulgated, or undergo such incessant changes that no man, who knows what the law is today, can guess what it will be tomorrow. Law is defined to be a rule of action; but how can that be a rule, which is little known, and less fixed?" James Madison - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: THE FIFTH OF JULY - by L. Neil Smith (fwd) Date: 07 Jul 2001 14:24:21 -0700 THE FIFTH OF JULY By L. Neil Smith Special to _The Libertarian Enterprise_ Independence Day is over for another year, and once again, I've failed to write the definitive essay about it, far enough in advance, to have it appear online upon the Very Day itself. I chose to write instead, this time, about the importance of getting rid of driver and automobile licenses, concealed carry permits, and Social Security numbers. So I guess it wasn't a total loss. The Fifth of July deserves attention, too, in its way. The smell of nitrates lingers in the cool morning air, and the sidewalks and streets are littered festively with the cardboard carcasses of dead whizbangs. It appears to be fully as traditional, in 20th and 21st century America, for the round-heeled socialist mass media to be all agog on the Day After -- with bloody and grotesque tales of seven-year-old fireworks victims sporting ruptured eardrums, exploded eyeballs, and blown-off fingers, with teary operatics featuring housefires, forest fires, and river fires, and with a plethora of veritable Icelandic sagas filled to brimming with pyrotechnic crime and punishment -- as it is for the same low, crawling, parasitic scum to moisten their vile, mildewed crotches in perverted sexual ecstacy the Day Before, passing along the usual ration of government admonitions against the peasantry enjoying, in the time-honored chemical manner, what pitiful rags have been left to us of our individual freedom and national independence. The problem -- for government and media alike -- is that what's being celebrated here is the stunning and spectacular success, a couple of centuries ago, of open, violent rebellion against ... oops, _government_! Every year, the sorry suckups on radio and TV inform us that this year (as opposed to last year and possibly next year, once the facts have been officially made up and released) X number of miscreants were arrested for illegal possession and deployment of 14th century Asian technology. Sometimes the number of arrests is higher than last year, and we receive a collective tongue-lashing. Other times, the number they've been ordered to use is smaller, and they condescendingly praise us for humbly kneeling to gratefully accept the Clintonian insertion. What I've noticed, however, is that the number of arrests for the largest settlement in my immediate locality -- the reeking, pustulent, collectivist abcess on the backside of the pristine Great American Desert known as the City and County of Denver -- is usually in the hundreds. To get the real picture, you must multiply that totally amazing and happy number of free souls who have intransigently defied the Lords of Altruism for the sheer joy of making pretty colored sparks, smelling the good smoke patriots smelled at Lexington and Concord, and hearing things go _bang!_ -- and passing that joy to their innocently delighted (or pantswettingly terrified) offspring -- you must multiply the number of arrests by somewhere between a thousand and infinity to account for the times the Blue Gang simply steal some little kid's sparklers and Roman candles without writing a citation, so they can sneak away and shoot their ill-gotten loot in some deserted alleyway, themselves. Altogether it makes a perfect, heartwarming portrait of today's America worthy of Norman Rockwell. Or would that be George Lincoln Rockwell? Whichever it may be, I've now reached that detestable stage where I can tell all of you whippersnappers, with a straight face, that I recall a very different America. For example, I remember an absolutely splendid custom called "shooting (or sounding) the anvil", generally an undertaking performed by one's reprobate uncle while the womenfolk stood around wringing their hands in their aprons, clucking their tongues, awaiting in secret glee an event that they wouldn't have missed for all of the apple pies left burning in their wood-fired ovens. In my case, it wasn't an uncle (I had one of those, a pathetic wussie who believed that if he voted for Barry Goldwater, his bosses would find out somehow and he'd lose his cushy civil service job), but my Dad's best friend Chuck, a gunsmith from Alamosa, Colorado, who, on ordinary days, was the kind of Klingon who crushed beer cans on his forehead. Back when they were made of steel. Chuck would persuade somebody -- he had a bad back, himself (no, really) to haul a 50-pound anvil out of his garage for the occasion to a spot reserved for the sacred event halfway down his driveway. There, in a hollow worn in the asphalt by years of this hallowed observance, he'd deposit a handful of black powder and have the anvil placed over it. Then my dad's friend Chuck would either lead a yard or two of cannon fuse away or (depending on his humor and the amount of Old Turkeywattle he'd consumed that evening) talk some gullible young candidate for natural selection into shoving a smoldering twig under the anvil, and _BAHHHHMMM!_, the anvil would leap into the air on a flaming cloud of aromatically sulphrous air-pollution to the delight of everybody, ringing like a great bell all the way up and all the way down. Those were simpler days, long before cable television. But the whole point to this remembrance is that we kids got plenty of chances to blow things up, ourselves, and if anybody ever got more than a scorched pinky or a ringing in his ears out of it, I never heard of it -- maybe because my ears were still ringing. Fireworks were just another kid's-toy, and they weren't only for the Fourth of July. My younger brother and I, having grown up in the shadow of World War II, would spend half a day sculpting elaborate Nazi bunkers and pillboxes out of snowbanks around our house, and staffing them with what are now known as Green Army Men. We'd then plant Black Cats -- carefully unravelled from their long, noisy, wasteful strings -- as expertly as the guys using plastique to destroy the Guns of Navarone, and contentedly spend the rest of the day demolishing these enemy fortifications. In the house, our mom -- usually overprotective bordering on the Norman-Bate's-Mother level -- must have heard our explosions. If so, she never said anything. We were just kids having a good time, and as long as we didn't blow up the propane tank or one of the cats, we were fine. Today all three of us, plus Dad (apprehended later at his office, film at 11), would be treated to Thorazine, therapy, and the wet sheet treatment, while Paul Harvey -- Goodday! -- made exactly the same kind of noises about us on the radio, from coast to coast, that the womenfolk made waiting for my dad's best friend Chuck to shoot the anvil. In an era when small, helpless schoolchildren are routinely bludgeoned by their principal and teachers, tear-gassed, wrestled to the ground, handcuffed and bellychained, and frogmarched off to the Bastille in a Black Maria for having drawn pictures of knives on paper, I know that all of this must seem insane to the bleeding-heart, bedwetting, afraid-of-every-known-phenomenon socialists who call themselves liberals and stumbled onto this website by some terrible accident. But while you're here, let me tell you more about those times. My grandmother, living in a small city, left her doors unlocked in perfect safety all her life. I, myself, could walk a mile to school in the first grade without worrying my parents or enticing some genetic cull to kill me and eat me. Later on, at the age of 11, I could make the harrowing 13-mile trek into town after a blizzard had closed the roads, to operate the radio panel for the weekly church broadcast that was a requirement for my receiving the God and Country Award in Boy Scouts. It gets better. In my youth, children roamed the countryside with rifles, and nobody thought anything of it -- adults would go out of the way to tell them where they'd seen rabbits or deer. Sometimes kids smoked cigarettes, and no one had the right to say a thing about it but their parents. Kids started fires in the woods and roasted hot dogs or marshmallows. In the city, it was potatoes. A generation earlier, kids got real live jobs and helped feed their families, before Marxoid intellectuals persuaded unions and politicians to "humanely" condemn "child labor", sentencing millions of innocent kids to 12 worthless, nonproductive years of daytime concentration-camps and socialist indoctrination. What you didn't see, back when kids handled more of their own lives than most adults do today, was public schools being shot up by homicidal mutants, gangs murdering each other over drug-selling turf, or national epidemics of unwed motherhood. Kids learned Latin and Greek, knew how to spell, and passed tests that college students fail today. Now you tell me: have six or seven decades of the calculated infantilization of American children led to anything resembling progress? Now that the process has started on adults, are we going to fight? If your answer is yes, the symbolic place to begin is with the laws against the possession and use of fireworks. These laws must be repealed, nullified, or otherwise disposed of. For several reasons, fireworks should be given the protection of a fully-enforced Second Amendment. At their most innocent, fireworks laws are nothing more than another example of the so-called liberal's primitive hatred and fear of fire that I wrote about years ago in the much-crossposted "Prometheus Bound and Gagged" (included in my recent book of essays, _Lever Action_). These laws must be repealed, nullified, or otherwise disposed of. At their least innocent, they represent a conscious attempt, mostly on the part of those who call themselves Democrats -- and who would be happier living under Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot -- to flush the American Revolution, and everthing it was fought to achieve, down the Memory Hole. These laws must be repealed, nullified, or otherwise disposed of. But don't look for any help from Republicans. The only thing that conservatives can be trusted to do, once liberals have shoved their metaphorical umbrella up our collective posterior, is to open it for them. To solve this and a thousand other American problems permanently, however, it would be best to rely upon Cato the Elder's policy toward Carthage: the public schools must be razed to the ground, so that not one stone is left standing on another, and salt sown on the ruins. On nightly TV "news" reports, the Jennings, Brokaws, and Whatevers love to make snotty propaganda over the charming and ebullient way of celebrating Arabs have, of firing their AK47s and their pistols into the air, just as we once fired our muskets and Kentucky rifles. (They give their children guns, as well, exactly as we used to do.) Most of us no longer recognize that joyous urge, let alone commend it, as we ought to. (Please don't give me a load of crap about the safety of the practice, either; read _Hatcher's Notebook_, if you can still find a copy in this hive of political correctness, and then we'll talk.) That urge is the very wellspring of traditional American Independence Day festivities. Whenever you hear, sometimes for several days before and after the Glorious Fourth, itself, and maybe half a city away, the wonderful snap, crackle, and _pop!_ of illicit firecrackers, occasionally punctuated by the lovely _wheeeee!_ of contraband pop bottle rockets, what you're hearing (although the distant rocketeers are probably unaware of it, themselves) is the _real_ celebration of American independence. What follows -- the inevitable sirens -- remind us who the enemy is, and who they have always been, since that other summer day in 1776. ********************************************************************** L. Neil Smith is the award-winning author of more than 20 novels about individual liberty and the right to own and carry weapons. To read more than 80 articles like this one, buy his _LEVER ACTION: ESSAYS ON LIBERTY BY L. NEIL SMITH_, available for $21.95 plus shipping and handling from http://www.webleyweb.com/lneil/leveraction.html To order Neil's latest novel, _HOPE_ (with Aaron Zelman), receive free goodies and a special offer, click on: http://www.jpfo.org/hope.htm To read about MAKING A MOVIE OF _THE MITZVAH_ the action-adventure thriller by Aaron Zelman and L. Neil Smith -- and maybe even help us do it! -- click on http://www.webleyweb.com/lneil/mitzvahmovie.html -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Fiedor Report on the News (fwd) Date: 07 Jul 2001 14:34:33 -0700 Fiedor Report on the News A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia July 7, 2001 #235 by: Doug Fiedor dfiedor@home.com ZERO TOLERANCE FOR GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS I still remember their shouts of "Down With the Establishment." Sure, that was many years ago and most of their drug soaked minds didn't have much idea why they were saying that, anyway. Apparently, though, some of the more avid pinkos in the "flower children" set really meant it. Today, we address part of that group as either journalists or teachers. We pounded on journalists enough for a while, so let's move over to the group who have never yet even had a job. Today, we address some of those in that group as "professor." Follow the teaching establishment's own statistics. When the hippy movement graduated college and stuck around the campuses to become teachers, something very important happened: The scholastic ability of our children began a steady decline and the kids started being indoctrinated with communist/socialist/fascist ideology. I have a test I like to give to the nay-sayers in the education community. The test was graded by my eighth grade home-room teacher. I received an 83 on it back in 1954. About four years ago I had a conversation with a few education students at a local college watering hole that was just a nice walk from my home. The conversation began because some of them wanted to read a paper I wrote titled "State of the Union." As I remember, their far-left professor was so incensed about my providing that paper that she even hinted that I should be arrested. The fact that everything was documented apparently did not matter. Along the way, the discussion turned to the decline of standards in education. I had proof, I said. And, as sometimes happens, we made a few bets: Ten of them, including two teacher/professors, would take the test. None would match the score I received as a mediocre student in junior high. The highest score was a 74, by a girl who was home schooled and then working on her master's degree. The liberal professor got 46%, which was about typical for the rest of the group. Three weeks later, I gave that test to another group, many from the law school. Same dismal results. Back in 1954, it was mandatory that every child pass that test before being promoted to high school. Today, college students cannot pass it. What happened? Right. "Down with the establishment!" The far left took over the "education" of our children. Indoctrination is more like it. A while back, the Heritage Foundation published a Backgrounder paper (#801) by Jeanne Allen titled "A Businessman's Guide to the Education Reform Debate."(1) Part of the paper describes the results of a National Assessment of Education Progress survey of students. Most interesting to me was what the 17 year olds did not know -- and the misinformation taught them. For instance, 47 percent believe that Karl Marx's rule "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is from the U.S. Constitution. Now, how in the world would they ever learn something like that? Apparently, American kids are not only taught that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle and that society has zero tolerance for everything the socialists do not like, but they are also being taught communism. The report shows that almost 60 percent of high school seniors were unable to understand and summarize relatively complicated reading material. Almost 94 percent of high school seniors were unable to solve multi-step math problems or use basic algebra. Over 50 percent of high school seniors were unable to understand specific government structures and functions -- 43 percent did not know that presidential candidates are nominated by party conventions. That was the 17 year olds. Over one-quarter of all 13 year-olds were unable to add, subtract, multiply, and divide using whole numbers or solve one-step math problems. And, 68 percent could not place the Civil War in the correct half-century -- 26 percent believed it occurred before 1800. This means that neither the 13 year olds or the 17 year olds in government schools would have any chance whatsoever of passing the test we all had to pass before attending high school. Most parents are starting to realize there is a major problem with government schools. In a recent Lou Harris poll sponsored by the Ford Foundation and Washington Mutual, nearly three-quarters of respondents agreed "the unions are a roadblock to removing incompetent teachers." Fewer than 20% of the 2,501 adults polled thought teachers in their communities were highly qualified -- and more than one-third thought teachers nationally are only minimally competent or unqualified -- 89% support removing unskilled teachers. They found that the vast majority of people polled cited improving teacher quality as the key to reform. Now that both the problem and the cause are defined, what do we do about it? 1. http://zeus.townhall.com/heritage/library/archives/backgrounder MONTICELLO IS STILL UNDER THE UN What would your reaction be if bureaucrats in the federal-government conspired to give away control of one of our states to the United Nations? And no, we're not necessarily talking about a big state, like California, Texas, Alaska, or New York, either. Just one of the medium states -- like maybe Pennsylvania or Colorado. The basic take-over would not include anything as brash as a blue-helmeted UN Army invasion of the state. That's not necessary. Nor would the UN necessarily get into the actual day to day operation of the state. Rather, the socialists in power at the United Nations would only write regulations and directives -- you know, laws -- as to how the land and infrastructure of the affected state would be allowed to be used. So all in all, it would be a peaceful takeover. One which would not be immediately perceptible to many of the state's citizens. Well . . . that is, the change would not be immediately apparent until citizens tried to change something in their neighborhoods. Then they would find they needed permission from some UN regulator. And, just think of the potential problems involved with that! For instance, some unelected bureaucrat -- maybe from Asia, Africa or South America -- would be calling the shots on what American citizens could or could not do in their own home town, or even with their own property! Heck, American citizens might even need a translator to speak to the regulator dude. Not acceptable, you say? Right! The whole concept is ridiculous. Well then, let's scale it down some. How about if our federal government only relinquishes domain over a few tracts -- of a few hundred-thousand acres each -- to UN control? For instance, let's say that they start with forty-seven such tracts called "Biosphere Reserves" -- like the Great Smoky Mountains Biosphere Reserve, for instance. Then add another eighteen properties labeled "Heritage Sites." These would include places like Yellowstone National Park, Yosemite National Park, The Grand Canyon National Park, The Statue of Liberty Park, Independence Hall, and such. Still unacceptable? Yeah, it sure seems that way. But, these are all federal properties. So, can't the federal government give them away if it wishes? No? Well then, you had better get on the horn and tell them so. Cause it's already a done deal! These areas are already under "protection" of the United Nations. Look for the UN and UNESCO signs. They are there to inform you that you tread on UN regulated property. You see folks, the bipolar thinkers in Washington are not giving away whole states, like Rhode Island or Delaware, to UN and UNESCO control. No, they know they probably couldn't get away with that. But, in total area of United States land, they gave away a lot more of our country than those two States combined. Actually, the total land mass involved in the U.S. and UNESCO Man in the Biosphere program exceeds the land mass of the State of Colorado. A considerable amount, in other words. And you didn't even notice. . . . Well, did you? Few Americans have. That was part of the plan. If the United Nations sent an army in here, a few of us might notice. And a few million of us might become rather upset. Therefore, they used a whole mixed gobbledygook of agreements, treaties and laws to get it done. That way they can control us by bureaucratic regulation. Anyway, don't go looking for a UN director's office in The Great Smoky Mountains or at Yellowstone, or even at Monticello or Mammoth Cave National Park. You won't find one. Such an office would be trashed in a heartbeat if Americans saw it. The UN knows that. So, everything happens stealthily. We were not supposed to notice -- that is, until later, when the flurry of UN regulations start. If you question the reason behind the UN and UNESCO signs, you will be told that the area is simply a "registered" area to be "protected" by the UN. Sure it is! Complete with use regulations, and a few dozen other restrictions. And that's just for starters. Why would America need some rinky-dink third world bureaucrats from wherever to protect our land anyway? The fact is, we do not. And that should be your primary hint: There is much, much more to this than what they will tell you publicly. It's a control thing. They're the controllers. We're the controllees. That's the way of the "Third Way." And we had better start understanding that concept quickly. Because, whether you noticed or not, we are now living it. Outrageous, isn't it! So, tell Congress. After all, we elected them. FEDERAL BIOSPHERES ARE STILL ILLEGAL Today, over 68% of public land -- land belonging to the people of the United States -- the land in our National Parks, Preserves and Monuments, is designated as a United Nations World Heritage Site, Biosphere Reserve or both. Worse yet, United Nations' land designations, such as UNESCO Biosphere Reserves and World Heritage Sites, currently take place without the approval of Congress and with no Congressional oversight. Nor are State and local officials, or even private landowners, usually consulted. By allowing these international land designations, the U.S. is indirectly agreeing to terms of international treaties, such as the Convention on Biological Diversity, to which the U.S. is not a party or which the U.S. Senate has refused to ratify. That is, by agreeing to form UNESCO biospheres in the United States, federal bureaucrats allow a group of foreigners to make land-use regulations for our property and the federal bureaucracy uses the guns of the federal government to force the American people to obey the foreign regulations. So, although the United Nations has no direct enforcement of land management -- they have no police here yet -- decisions in the use and operation of Biosphere Reserves or World Heritage Sites are set in accordance with UNESCO rules and regulations. There is no treaty or agreement. Some federal bureaucrats(1) took this power upon themselves. Which means, they unlawfully gave the international community an open invitation to interfere in U.S. domestic land use decisions -- decisions which often limit the use of privately owned property, and thereby negatively impact on its value. For instance, the actions of the World Heritage Committee in condemning a proposed mining development on privately-owned land outside the boundaries of Yellowstone National Park, a World Heritage Site, provides an example of the havoc these foreign programs can create. A member of the World Heritage Committee, Adul Wichiencharoen from Thailand (of all places), requested that a 12 million acre (18,750 square mile) buffer zone be created around the 2 million acre Yellowstone National Park. Federal bureaucrats are attempting to work that foolishness in, but the pesky people living in the area won't cooperate. One bureaucratic suggestion is that the people be removed so the weeds, bugs and wild animals can live in peace. According to the U.S. National Committee MAB, as adopted on July 26, 1995: "The mission of the United States MAB Program is to explore, demonstrate, promote, and encourage harmonious relationships between people and their environments building on the MAB network of Biosphere Reserves and interdisciplinary research. The long-term goal of the U.S. MAB Program is to contribute to achieving a sustainable society early in the 21st Century. The MAB mission and long term goal will be implemented, in the United States and internationally, through public-private partnerships and linkages that sponsor and promote cooperative interdisciplinary research, experimentation, education and information exchange on options by which societies can achieve sustainability."(2) Another mission statement is available by the Department of State.(3) Their Environmental and Scientific Affairs office also posted a page of informative links.(4) Back in the Carter Administration there was an international agreement which many countries signed onto. The United States agreed, in part. And, as always, the American taxpayer got stuck paying big bucks for something that had zero benefit for the American public. The key word there was "agreement." It was not an international treaty. President Carter agreed to participate only in part, and implemented that part of the agreement through an executive memoranda. The administration then secured minimal program funding from Congress. President Reagan saw the fallacy in the program and cancelled the whole thing. However, federal bureaucrats did not conform and continued making more biospheres. On April 24, 1997, Rep. Coburn offered an amendment to the National Science Foundation budget stating that: "No funds appropriated pursuant to this Act shall be used for the United States Man and Biosphere Program, or related projects." Coburn spelled out the law for the House: "It is important that the people recognize that the Biosphere Reserve and World Heritage sites are under the guidance of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization also known as UNESCO. The United States withdrew from that Organization in 1984 because of gross financial mismanagement. "Over 68 percent of our national parks, preserves, and monuments have been designated as United Nations World Heritage sites, Biosphere Reserves or both. There are currently 47 of those sites [97 actually] in the United States, covering an area the size of Colorado. Under the relative agreements, the United States is promising to manage lands in accordance with international guidelines. "Many times local governments, [and] private property [owners] are never consulted in these management plans. This is a clear violation of private property rights. The biosphere programs, including the United States Man and Biosphere Program, have never been authorized by any Congress, never been authorized, but still received [funds] this past year and this year will receive over $700,000 of taxpayers' money. The National Science Foundation distributed more than $400,000 in grants to this unauthorized program despite the fact that the program has never had a consideration or vote in Congress and has never been approved by a body of the Congress." That amendment easily passed, as did a number of subsequent amendments to various budget bills specifically defunding the biosphere project -- even though the project never had authorization. Yet, the biosphere reserves are still with us and third-world foreigners from UNESCO are still wandering our nation with the intent of directing our land usage. Still today, the U.S. and UNESCO Man and Biosphere Program (MAB) seems to be chugging along like the Little Engine that Could. No matter what, it will not quit. Legally, the Man and the Biosphere program does not exist. Yet, an American citizen can still get arrested for entering one of their many restricted zones. Congress never funded the program, and even stated in a number of bills that no money may be spent on it. Yet, the program is still in full operation. For more on exactly what a biosphere is, as per UNESCO, and what they have planned for the American People, see the Biospheres in a Nutshell FAQ.(6) Clearly, this is a gross misappropriation of funds. Stealing of taxpayer money, in other words. That being so, a few dozen bureaucrats should be fitted up with some prison uniforms. That's the only way this nonsense will ever be stopped. 1. http://www.euromab.org/general_information/nat_comm.html 2. http://www.euromab.org/home2.html 3. http://www.state.gov/www/global/oes/fs_mab.html 4. http://www.state.gov/www/global/oes/mab.html 5. http://refuges.fws.gov/specialareas/index.html#biosphere 6. http://www.unesco.org/mab/nutshell.htm ~ End ~ -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: All Is NOT Quiet On The Bill Front! (fwd) Date: 08 Jul 2001 09:48:45 -0700 FYI - Be Aware and Forwarned: these are cooking on the front burner. 59 GUN-RELATED BILLS BEFORE CONGRESS By Melissa Seaman, Newslinks Director, KeepAndBearArms.com https://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=1660 Below are links to 59 gun-related bills before the U.S. Congress.There are 50 anti-gun bills and 9 pro-gun bills. Various types of contact inform- ation is contained in this message in hopes you'll reach out and do your part to voice your thoughts on these matters.Thanks for doing your part to stave off our legislators gone awry. TO CONTACT: FEDERAL REPS, SENATORS, AND COMMITTEES... http://capwiz.com/kba/dbq/officials (committees can be found under "Congressional Record") U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL JOHN ASHCROFT... http://www.usdoj.gov/ag CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD TOLL-FREE HOTLINES... 800-648-3516, 877-778-9001, 877-762-8762 Make sure you contact the specific committee where each bill is now (listed under "Bill Status") to either support or reject each bill, and your reps or senators to either co-sponsor the bill or not, depending on if it is anti- or pro- gun. Make sure you read the significant parts of the bills (listed under "Text of Legislation") so you know exactly what is going on. Let me know if you have any questions, additions, or further information. ------------------ ANTI-GUN (50 Bills) ------------------ H.CON.RES.129 : establishment of Million Mom March Day http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.con.res.00129: H.R.1 : includes anti-gun initiatives regarding schools http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00001: H.R.70 : Gun Access Prevention Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00070: H.R.114 : Handgun Licensing and Registration Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00114: H.R.138 : to require persons to obtain a State license before receiving a handgun or handgun ammunition (Handgun Licensing Act) http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00138: H.R.139 : To provide incentive funds to States that have in effect a certain law (Handgun Registration Act) http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00139: H.R.218 : to exempt qualified current and former law enforcement officers from State laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed handguns http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00218: H.R.225 : Anti-"Gunrunning" Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00225: H.R.233 : mandatory "safety"-locks http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00233: H.R.255 : To provide grant funds to local governments that comply with certain requirements and to amend certain Federal firearms laws. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00255: H.R.278 : To assist State and local governments in conducting community gun "buy back" programs. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00278: H.R.340 : includes anti-gun initiatives regarding schools (PART E--RELATED PROVISIONS; GUN-FREE SCHOOLS) http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00340: H.R.408 : gun ballistics fingerprint registration http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00408: H.R.422 : gun ballistics fingerprint registration of imported firearms http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00422: H.R.534 : To establish a grant program that provides incentives for States who enact Project Exile http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00534: H.R.671 : To expand the powers of the Secretary of the Treasury to regulate the manufacture, distribution, and sale of firearms and ammunition, and to expand the jurisdiction of the Secretary to include firearm products and non-powder firearms http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00671: H.R.693 : To ban the manufacture of handguns that cannot be "personalized" http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00693: H.R.726 : to ban using the Internet to obtain or dispose of a firearm http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00726: H.R.731 : To prohibit the discharge of a firearm within 1000 feet of any Federal land or facility http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00731: H.R.891 : To prohibit the possession of a firearm by an individual who has committed an act of juvenile delinquency that would be a violent felony if committed by an adult http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00891: H.R.958 : includes anti-gun initiatives regarding schools http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00958: H.R.998 : prohibiting bulk purchases of handguns http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00998: H.R.1014 : anti-gun bill under the guise of "preventing child injury" http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01014: H.R.1112 : To make Federal law apply to antique firearms in the same way it applies to other firearms http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01112: H.R.1247 : Handgun Licensing and Record of Sale Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01247: H.R.1248 : To prohibit the possession of a firearm in a "hospital zone" (w/in 1000ft of a hospital) http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01248: H.R.1396 : To "encourage" States to report students they "suspect to be or has been" in possession of a firearm while in or on the premises of a school building http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01396: H.R.1397 : includes banning the manufacture of handguns without locks http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01397: H.R.1922 : To ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and to extend the ban on transferring such devices to those that were manufactured before the ban became law. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01922: H.R.1990 : includes anti-gun initiatives regarding schools http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01990: H.R.1922 : To ban the importation of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and to extend the ban on transferring such devices to those that were manufactured before the ban became law. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01922: H.R.2221 : To ban the import of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, to promote the safe storage and use of handguns by consumers, and to extend Brady background checks to gun shows http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.02221: H.R.2377 : To require criminal background checks on all firearms transactions occurring at events that provide a venue for the sale, offer for sale, transfer, or exchange of firearms, and to provide additional resources for gun crime enforcement. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.02377: S.1 : includes anti-gun initiatives regarding schools http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00001: S.16 : includes anti-gun initiatives regarding civilians and police http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00016: S.25 : Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00025: S.79 : to "encourage" drug-free and "safe" schools. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00079: S.134 : Large Capacity Ammunition Magazine Import Ban http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00134: S.330 : To expand the powers of the Secretary of the Treasury to regulate the manufacture, distribution, and sale of firearms and ammunition, and to expand the jurisdiction of the Secretary to include firearm products and non-powder firearms http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00330: S.406 : prohibiting bulk purchases of handguns http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00406: S.436 : mandatory "safety" locks http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00436: S.437 : includes anti-gun initiatives regarding schools http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00437: S.442 : A bill to exempt qualified current and former law enforcement officers from State http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00442: S.505 : to regulate certain .50 caliber sniper weapons in the same manner as machine guns http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00505: S.609 : to regulate manufacture, assembly, shipment, & transportation of firearms & firearm parts http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00609: S.619 : incentives for States that use Project Exile http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00619: S.649 : to modify provisions relating to the Gun-Free Schools Act http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00649: S.767 : anti-gun gun show bill (Reed) http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00767: S.890 : anti-gun gun show bill (McCain) http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00890: S.940 : includes anti-gun initiatives regarding schools http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00940: ---------------- PRO-GUN (9 Bills) ---------------- H.CON.REright of all Americans to keep and bear arms in defense of life or liberty and in the pursuit of all other legitimate endeavors. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.con.res.00119: H.R.31 : To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00031: H.R.123 : To prohibit civil liability actions from being brought or continued against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, or importers of firearms or ammunition for damages resulting from the misuse of their products by others. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00123: H.R.950 : To amend title 18 of the United States Code to provide for reciprocity in regard to the manner in which nonresidents of a State may carry certain concealed firearms in that State. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.00950: H.R.1455 : To repeal section 658 of Public Law 104-208, commonly referred to as the Lautenberg amendment. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01455: H.R.1460 : To amend section 922 of chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, to protect the rights of citizens under the Second Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:h.r.01460: H.R.1762 : To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans. http://thomas.loc S.514 : A bill to amend title 18 of the United States Code to provide for reciprocity in regard to the manner in which nonresidents of a State may carry certain concealed firearms in that State. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00514: S.906 : A bill to provide for protection of gun owner privacy and ownership rights, and for other purposes. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:s.00906: Source: http://thomas.loc.gov/bss/d107query.html in Life, Liberty, and pursuit of happiness... Melissa http://profiles.yahoo.com/Skypod ICQ#58058555 "No law ever written has stopped any robber, rapist or killer, like cold blue steel in the hands of their last intended victim." ~ W. Emerson Wright. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: [ParanoidTimes] Spread far and wide: Call WalMart (fwd) Date: 08 Jul 2001 17:29:16 -0700 The Anti-Gun people are putting pressure on Walmart to stop selling guns = and ammunition. So Walmart is making a tally of all who call in to their Customer Service Relation Department at 1-800-925-6278 who are opposed = to the Anti-Gun pressure on Walmart, Call the above number and go to a selection to hear their position on the sale of firearms and ammunition. Contact Wal-Mart on their Web Site and send them an e-mail at http://www.walmart.com/ Tell them your support for their position to continue to sell firearms and ammunition. Then pass this information on to all those you know to be Pro-Gun people and hunters. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: GOVERNMENT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY (fwd) Date: 08 Jul 2001 18:07:43 -0700 "I have described [the BATF] properly as JACKBOOTED AMERICAN FASCISTS. They have shown no concern over the rights of ordinary citizens or their property. They intrude without the slightest regard or concern." --Rep. John Dingell (D-16th/MI), Congressional Record, 02/08/1995 AB -----Original Message----- Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 7:42 PM Pass this around, Please!!! PLEASE DO NOT PURCHASE ITEMS MADE IN CHINA! BEWARE OF THE FEDERAL CONSUMPTION TAX TRAP! _____________________________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 00:01 soldiers will say NO! IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU! The following report is outrageous but is 100 % correct. Many of our peers in uniform are following orders and therefore committing crimes in a belief that good will come from their acts. They have been conditioned to believe that - The end justifies the means! Much more criminal activity of our fellow government agencies and agents are committed than that particular area exposed here - i.e. "dealing with unlawful government seizures". The public is just not allowed to hear about these other activities by their government "leaders" and the controlled media. I hear from fellow lawmen every few weeks about the crimes and immoral acts that they are ordered to participate in that cause them to lose sleep at nights and faith in their own government. These very distraught, honorable sworn peace officers (men and women) are in a tough position...If they say anything or complain about participating in these immoral or unlawful acts they are listed as untrustworthy and are considered "not a team player" and their career potential ends. (This old retired cop knows about this personally - having been fired twice for speaking out and writing to my fellow colleagues about some of these criminal activities.) Some very brave souls call our police and military association (for any help, moral support, and hoping to talk to another peer that will understand) after they have said NO to these orders and been fired or placed on administrative leave pending "internal" investigations into their lives and career. Our volunteer association do what we can for our very honorable colleagues throughout this life altering crisis in their lives. When a fellow officer needs financial support or an attorney, etc. many times what we, their peers, can do for them is not enough. I say the above, to make the reader aware of the following criminal activity committed by our peers in law enforcement; so that the reader will understand that not all of our fellow lawmen and women are willing participants in these immoral and unlawful activities. Please remember that as you read the very important report below. If, after reading the report below, you wish to help us educate and advise, and motivate our peers on the front lines to take a stand for righteousness and honor, please contact us at Aid & Abet Police and Military News or Police Against the New World Order, at HC-11, Box 357 Magnum, Kamiah, Idaho, 83636 - Officer Jack McLamb, (Ret) --------- Forwarded message ---------- http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/27/191414.shtml Government Property Seizures out of Control Jarret Wollstein Saturday, June 30, 2001 Across America, the Drug Enforcement Administration is seizing the luggage, cash and cars of hapless travelers. Mere possession of a large amount of cash or a drug dog barking at your luggage is sufficient probable cause for police to legally seize everything you are carrying under America's new civil forfeiture laws. In Albuquerque, N.M., in February 2000, DEA agents detained Sam Thach, who was traveling on Amtrak from Fullerton, Calif., to Boston, and seized $147,000 in cash he was carrying. Thach had no drugs. His crime? He had bought a one-way ticket for cash and didn't give Amtrak his phone number. (1) The DEA seized $640,000 from Jennifer Leigh Ames while she was traveling on Amtrak on April 5, 2001. Agents say she looked nervous and had refused permission to search her luggage. (1) Former Newark, N.J., policeman Carlos Hernandez discovered police searching his Amtrak sleeper cabin and demanding to search his luggage on July 22, 1999. Hernandez's crime? He's Hispanic and paid for his $694 ticket in cash. (2) At Houston's Hobby Airport, police stopped 49-year-old Ethel Hylton and seized her luggage because a drug dog had scratched it. Agents searched her bags and strip-searched her but found no drugs. They did find $39,110 in cash from an insurance settlement and her life savings, accumulated through over 20 years of work as a hotel housekeeper and hospital janitor. Ms. Hylton completely documented where she had gotten the money and was never charged with a crime. But the police kept her money anyway. Destitute, she had no way to fight them. These outrageous seizures are completely legal and have been upheld by the highest courts in the land, including the U.S. Supreme Court. The DEA's Web site claims, "Property is seized by the DEA only when it is determined to be a tool for, or the proceeds of, illegal activities such as drug trafficking, organized crime, or money laundering." But the above examples show the reality. Under civil asset forfeiture, your property - not you - is charged with a crime. Hence the bizarre title of civil forfeiture cases: "United States vs. one 1998 Mercedes Benz," "California vs. 1711 Main Street," and so forth. Once your property is charged with a crime, it can be seized and kept by police, even if you are never convicted of anything. An appeals court in Florida even ruled that police can personally receive bounties of 25 percent of the value of anything they seize from you, such as your car, bank accounts or home. There are now more than 400 federal offenses and thousands of state and local offenses for which your cash, car, bank accounts and home can be seized - including shoplifting, hiring an illegal alien such as a maid (California), playing a car stereo too loud (New York), transporting illegal fireworks, gambling, having illegal drugs on your property, and merely discussing violating any law ("conspiracy"), such as underpaying your taxes. More than $1 billion in property is now seized without trial each year from innocent Americans, according to the national forfeiture defense organization FEAR (Forfeiture Endangers American Rights) (3). Seizures range from the pocket cash of poor street people ... to the cars of men accused of soliciting prostitutes ... to multimillion-dollar apartment buildings. Once police seize your property, the burden of proof is on you to prove your property's innocence. Any suspected illegal actions of your relatives, guests, friends and employees on or even near your property are sufficient grounds to seize it. In Montgomery, Ala., police seized the home of 69-year-old Gussie Mae Gantt after videotaping police informants buying drugs in her yard. Ms. Gantt had previously called the police, complaining about drug-dealing in her neighborhood, and had posted no-trespassing signs. The drug dealers wouldn't stop - so police set up a drug deal and confiscated her home. Easy Money for the Government Once your home, car, and bank accounts are seized under civil asset forfeiture laws, you can pretty much forget about ever getting them back. It's you versus the police and courts, who divide up the proceeds from your property according to formulas such as "80 percent for police, 20 percent for the court." If you want to fight seizure of your property, expect to spend at least $15,000 just to hire a competent asset defense attorney. Also expect the police to introduce hearsay evidence and to go through trial after trial, because the normal constitutional protections afforded criminal suspects don't apply to civil forfeiture of your property. (4) With all of this easy confiscated money, asset confiscation is now big business across America. In Volusia County, Fla., police seized more than $8 million worth of cars from motorists stopped for minor traffic violations along Interstate 95. (5) In Alameda County, Calif., police auction off hundreds of seized cars and boats every month. The latest wrinkle in civil asset forfeiture is police working with Amtrak, Greyhound, airlines and hotels to seize cash from travelers. The Albuquerque Journal reports that Amtrak gave the Drug Enforcement Administration access to its booking system in exchange for 10 percent of any monies seized by police. The DEA has similar deals with airlines at major airports and many hotel and motel owners in Los Angeles, Las Vegas and other large cities. DEA agents are now permanently stationed at major airports and hotels. So, the next time you pay for an Amtrak ticket, airline flight or hotel room in cash, don't be surprised if you get a knock on your door from machine-gun-armed DEA agents. Sources: (1) "Railway Bandits," Reason, July 2001, p. 14. (2) "Railway Bandits," Reason, July 2001, p. 15. (3) Forfeiture Endangers American Rights, www.fear.org. (4) An analysis of U.S. asset forfeiture laws, with extensive legal citations, can be found in the book "Your House is Under Arrest," by Brenda Grantland, one of America's leading asset defense attorneys. Copies are available from ISIL, 707/726-8796, www.isil.org. Another excellent source is "Forfeiting Our Property Rights," by U.S. Rep. Henry Hyde, R-Ill. (5) Orlando Sentinel, Aug. 2, 1992. "We didn't love freedom enough. And even more-we had no awareness of the real situation." (Gulag Archipelago) -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Watson Subject: THE FIFTH OF JULY (fwd) Date: 09 Jul 2001 07:51:28 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- THE FIFTH OF JULY By L. Neil Smith Special to _The Libertarian Enterprise_ Independence Day is over for another year, and once again, I've failed to write the definitive essay about it, far enough in advance, to have it appear online upon the Very Day itself. I chose to write instead, this time, about the importance of getting rid of driver and automobile licenses, concealed carry permits, and Social Security numbers. So I guess it wasn't a total loss. The Fifth of July deserves attention, too, in its way. The smell of nitrates lingers in the cool morning air, and the sidewalks and streets are littered festively with the cardboard carcasses of dead whizbangs. It appears to be fully as traditional, in 20th and 21st century America, for the round-heeled socialist mass media to be all agog on the Day After -- with bloody and grotesque tales of seven-year-old fireworks victims sporting ruptured eardrums, exploded eyeballs, and blown-off fingers, with teary operatics featuring housefires, forest fires, and river fires, and with a plethora of veritable Icelandic sagas filled to brimming with pyrotechnic crime and punishment -- as it is for the same low, crawling, parasitic scum to moisten their vile, mildewed crotches in perverted sexual ecstacy the Day Before, passing along the usual ration of government admonitions against the peasantry enjoying, in the time-honored chemical manner, what pitiful rags have been left to us of our individual freedom and national independence. The problem -- for government and media alike -- is that what's being celebrated here is the stunning and spectacular success, a couple of centuries ago, of open, violent rebellion against ... oops, _government_! Every year, the sorry suckups on radio and TV inform us that this year (as opposed to last year and possibly next year, once the facts have been officially made up and released) X number of miscreants were arrested for illegal possession and deployment of 14th century Asian technology. Sometimes the number of arrests is higher than last year, and we receive a collective tongue-lashing. Other times, the number they've been ordered to use is smaller, and they condescendingly praise us for humbly kneeling to gratefully accept the Clintonian insertion. What I've noticed, however, is that the number of arrests for the largest settlement in my immediate locality -- the reeking, pustulent, collectivist abcess on the backside of the pristine Great American Desert known as the City and County of Denver -- is usually in the hundreds. To get the real picture, you must multiply that totally amazing and happy number of free souls who have intransigently defied the Lords of Altruism for the sheer joy of making pretty colored sparks, smelling the good smoke patriots smelled at Lexington and Concord, and hearing things go _bang!_ -- and passing that joy to their innocently delighted (or pantswettingly terrified) offspring -- you must multiply the number of arrests by somewhere between a thousand and infinity to account for the times the Blue Gang simply steal some little kid's sparklers and Roman candles without writing a citation, so they can sneak away and shoot their ill-gotten loot in some deserted alleyway, themselves. Altogether it makes a perfect, heartwarming portrait of today's America worthy of Norman Rockwell. Or would that be George Lincoln Rockwell? Whichever it may be, I've now reached that detestable stage where I can tell all of you whippersnappers, with a straight face, that I recall a very different America. For example, I remember an absolutely splendid custom called "shooting (or sounding) the anvil", generally an undertaking performed by one's reprobate uncle while the womenfolk stood around wringing their hands in their aprons, clucking their tongues, awaiting in secret glee an event that they wouldn't have missed for all of the apple pies left burning in their wood-fired ovens. In my case, it wasn't an uncle (I had one of those, a pathetic wussie who believed that if he voted for Barry Goldwater, his bosses would find out somehow and he'd lose his cushy civil service job), but my Dad's best friend Chuck, a gunsmith from Alamosa, Colorado, who, on ordinary days, was the kind of Klingon who crushed beer cans on his forehead. Back when they were made of steel. Chuck would persuade somebody -- he had a bad back, himself (no, really) to haul a 50-pound anvil out of his garage for the occasion to a spot reserved for the sacred event halfway down his driveway. There, in a hollow worn in the asphalt by years of this hallowed observance, he'd deposit a handful of black powder and have the anvil placed over it. Then my dad's friend Chuck would either lead a yard or two of cannon fuse away or (depending on his humor and the amount of Old Turkeywattle he'd consumed that evening) talk some gullible young candidate for natural selection into shoving a smoldering twig under the anvil, and _BAHHHHMMM!_, the anvil would leap into the air on a flaming cloud of aromatically sulphrous air-pollution to the delight of everybody, ringing like a great bell all the way up and all the way down. Those were simpler days, long before cable television. But the whole point to this remembrance is that we kids got plenty of chances to blow things up, ourselves, and if anybody ever got more than a scorched pinky or a ringing in his ears out of it, I never heard of it -- maybe because my ears were still ringing. Fireworks were just another kid's-toy, and they weren't only for the Fourth of July. My younger brother and I, having grown up in the shadow of World War II, would spend half a day sculpting elaborate Nazi bunkers and pillboxes out of snowbanks around our house, and staffing them with what are now known as Green Army Men. We'd then plant Black Cats -- carefully unravelled from their long, noisy, wasteful strings -- as expertly as the guys using plastique to destroy the Guns of Navarone, and contentedly spend the rest of the day demolishing these enemy fortifications. In the house, our mom -- usually overprotective bordering on the Norman-Bate's-Mother level -- must have heard our explosions. If so, she never said anything. We were just kids having a good time, and as long as we didn't blow up the propane tank or one of the cats, we were fine. Today all three of us, plus Dad (apprehended later at his office, film at 11), would be treated to Thorazine, therapy, and the wet sheet treatment, while Paul Harvey -- Goodday! -- made exactly the same kind of noises about us on the radio, from coast to coast, that the womenfolk made waiting for my dad's best friend Chuck to shoot the anvil. In an era when small, helpless schoolchildren are routinely bludgeoned by their principal and teachers, tear-gassed, wrestled to the ground, handcuffed and bellychained, and frogmarched off to the Bastille in a Black Maria for having drawn pictures of knives on paper, I know that all of this must seem insane to the bleeding-heart, bedwetting, afraid-of-every-known-phenomenon socialists who call themselves liberals and stumbled onto this website by some terrible accident. But while you're here, let me tell you more about those times. My grandmother, living in a small city, left her doors unlocked in perfect safety all her life. I, myself, could walk a mile to school in the first grade without worrying my parents or enticing some genetic cull to kill me and eat me. Later on, at the age of 11, I could make the harrowing 13-mile trek into town after a blizzard had closed the roads, to operate the radio panel for the weekly church broadcast that was a requirement for my receiving the God and Country Award in Boy Scouts. It gets better. In my youth, children roamed the countryside with rifles, and nobody thought anything of it -- adults would go out of the way to tell them where they'd seen rabbits or deer. Sometimes kids smoked cigarettes, and no one had the right to say a thing about it but their parents. Kids started fires in the woods and roasted hot dogs or marshmallows. In the city, it was potatoes. A generation earlier, kids got real live jobs and helped feed their families, before Marxoid intellectuals persuaded unions and politicians to "humanely" condemn "child labor", sentencing millions of innocent kids to 12 worthless, nonproductive years of daytime concentration-camps and socialist indoctrination. What you didn't see, back when kids handled more of their own lives than most adults do today, was public schools being shot up by homicidal mutants, gangs murdering each other over drug-selling turf, or national epidemics of unwed motherhood. Kids learned Latin and Greek, knew how to spell, and passed tests that college students fail today. Now you tell me: have six or seven decades of the calculated infantilization of American children led to anything resembling progress? Now that the process has started on adults, are we going to fight? If your answer is yes, the symbolic place to begin is with the laws against the possession and use of fireworks. These laws must be repealed, nullified, or otherwise disposed of. For several reasons, fireworks should be given the protection of a fully-enforced Second Amendment. At their most innocent, fireworks laws are nothing more than another example of the so-called liberal's primitive hatred and fear of fire that I wrote about years ago in the much-crossposted "Prometheus Bound and Gagged" (included in my recent book of essays, _Lever Action_). These laws must be repealed, nullified, or otherwise disposed of. At their least innocent, they represent a conscious attempt, mostly on the part of those who call themselves Democrats -- and who would be happier living under Stalin, Mao, or Pol Pot -- to flush the American Revolution, and everthing it was fought to achieve, down the Memory Hole. These laws must be repealed, nullified, or otherwise disposed of. But don't look for any help from Republicans. The only thing that conservatives can be trusted to do, once liberals have shoved their metaphorical umbrella up our collective posterior, is to open it for them. To solve this and a thousand other American problems permanently, however, it would be best to rely upon Cato the Elder's policy toward Carthage: the public schools must be razed to the ground, so that not one stone is left standing on another, and salt sown on the ruins. On nightly TV "news" reports, the Jennings, Brokaws, and Whatevers love to make snotty propaganda over the charming and ebullient way of celebrating Arabs have, of firing their AK47s and their pistols into the air, just as we once fired our muskets and Kentucky rifles. (They give their children guns, as well, exactly as we used to do.) Most of us no longer recognize that joyous urge, let alone commend it, as we ought to. (Please don't give me a load of crap about the safety of the practice, either; read _Hatcher's Notebook_, if you can still find a copy in this hive of political correctness, and then we'll talk.) That urge is the very wellspring of traditional American Independence Day festivities. Whenever you hear, sometimes for several days before and after the Glorious Fourth, itself, and maybe half a city away, the wonderful snap, crackle, and _pop!_ of illicit firecrackers, occasionally punctuated by the lovely _wheeeee!_ of contraband pop bottle rockets, what you're hearing (although the distant rocketeers are probably unaware of it, themselves) is the _real_ celebration of American independence. What follows -- the inevitable sirens -- remind us who the enemy is, and who they have always been, since that other summer day in 1776. ********************************************************************** L. Neil Smith is the award-winning author of more than 20 novels about individual liberty and the right to own and carry weapons. To read more than 80 articles like this one, buy his _LEVER ACTION: ESSAYS ON LIBERTY BY L. NEIL SMITH_, available for $21.95 plus shipping and handling from http://www.webleyweb.com/lneil/leveraction.html To order Neil's latest novel, _HOPE_ (with Aaron Zelman), receive free goodies and a special offer, click on: http://www.jpfo.org/hope.htm To read about MAKING A MOVIE OF _THE MITZVAH_ the action-adventure thriller by Aaron Zelman and L. Neil Smith -- and maybe even help us do it! -- click on http://www.webleyweb.com/lneil/mitzvahmovie.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Rural Cleansing (fwd) Date: 09 Jul 2001 23:19:46 -0700 News - Sierra Times.com An Internet Publication For Real Americans Orick CA: The Rural Cleansing of America (Joining The Ranks With Klamath Falls) Donald C. Amador - Blue Ribbon Coalition 07.07.01 ORICK, CA. July 1, 2001 -- "It isn't about threatened and endangere= d species. It isn't about water for the fish. It's about control," He= len Franklin told a crowd of patriotic Americans gathered in protest of= the National Park Service during an Independence Day rally in Orick, California. "Whoever controls food production and water usage in th= is country will control the people." Franklin, founder of United Coalitions for a Constitutional Governm= ent, added, "What has happened in Orick is not an isolated event. There = is an effort to put an end to the production of all natural resources in = this country. Ranchers are losing their grazing rights. Farms are withou= t water, and timber harvest is at a minimum. Two years ago Will Steel= e, former director of the National Marine Fisheries Services said, 'We= will control who raises a garden and who raises livestock.'" Speakers ranging from book authors, local fishermen, landowners and pro-recreation activists, made their way across the stage one by on= e, decrying how NPS has treated the community of Orick and its citizen= s and how the Green agenda is destroying this country from within. Judy Schmidt, the president of the Orick School Board, cited variou= s studies including a recent 1999 Humboldt State University report th= at showed the population of Orick had decreased from about 1500 reside= nts before the Park was established to about 300. She also said that th= e school population had dwindled from a high of 255 students before t= he timber industry was shut-down to about 50 pupils today. Holly Swanson, noted author of "Set Up and Sold Out" and battle har= dened land-rights advocate didn't pull any punches with her articulate explanation of how our country is being taken over by radical environmentalists and the Green Party. Swanson said, "They guarantee people a job, food, shelter and healt= h care. The Green objective is to convince the American masses the only way= to achieve these goals and save the environment is to abandon capitali= sm and let the government take control of their lives." Don Amador, western representative of the Blue Ribbon Coalition and facilitator of the protest rally, added, "It bothers me greatly tha= t the Green Party appears to have placed its supporters into some very hi= gh positions in our federal land agencies and it is for that reason th= at the NPS has chosen to sign an economic death warrant for the town of Or= ick by closing down the beaches to RV camping, tourism, and surf fishermen= ." Having witnessed the devastation of Orick as a community, locally e= lected officials have joined in the fight against a heavy-handed federal government agency. "My participation at Orick has brought a benefit= to Coos County, (Oregon)," Coos County commissioner John Griffith told= the crowd. "A Bureau of Land Management proposal to request a National Park Se= rvice grant was forwarded to me for my endorsement. I strongly refused th= e request and said that if BLM goes forward with it, to expect me to = be a persistent, loud and aggressive opponent. There is absolutely no wa= y I want NPS or any potential nexus to NPS to be established anywhere I= go now that I've seen what a terrifying neighbor it is to the community of= Orick, California," Griffith said. Congressman Wally Herger (R-CA) who was unable to attend said, "I r= egret that I am unable to be there with you at your Freedom Flag Brigade,= and I commend you for coming out to this peaceful demonstration against r= adical environmentalism." "As I've said on numerous occasions, we are at war with radical environmentalists across the country who are doing everything in th= eir power to abridge our individual rights as citizens...While ours is = an uphill fight, we can never give up, because protecting the environm= ent and providing for our communities need not be mutually exclusive goals.= " Herger concluded. Local grocery store owners, commercial fishermen, wood carving busi= nesses, and war veterans joined forces with members of the Klamath Bucket B= rigade to say with a loud voice that they are not going to stand by and allow the NPS to destroy a rural comm= unity. Amador continued the program with a story about his dad serving in = General George Patton's 3rd Army in WWII. He said, "I believe that General = Patton at the end of the war correctly identified socialism and communism = as the new enemies of the United States of America. " Swanson offered a quote from her book, "If we are too afraid to dis= cuss the 'C' word, the Communists have successfully made it politically = correct to submit to their program. This is not about environmental protect= ion. We all support that. This is about making distinctions and choosing ou= r future." A local commercial fisherman who will not be able to pass on his fi= shing permit to his sons said the NPS will not honor a transfer that woul= d allow his family members to access the beach wave-slope. Norm Carr, the president of the California Beach Fisherman's Associ= ation, told the assembly that the NPS has continually lied and tried to de= ceive him through the public process associated with the new closure-orie= nted General Plan. During the comment period, Carr had obtained an "inte= rnal memo" that basically said it was the Park's intention all along to = close the beach and put the local commercial wood gatherers and fishermen= out of business. When Carr confronted the Park Superintendent with this memo, he was= told "not to worry about any closures" and that the memo was not meant t= o be seen by the public. As Carr continued to talk, he said the he had been very discouraged= but that the crowd today who gathered to rally for support and to ask President Bush to reopen the beach was a real boost for his spirits= . He said he appreciated the folks who had traveled down from Oregon and= over from the Sierra to attend the event. Barry Clausen, author of "Burning Rage," climbed up on the stage an= d offered up a joke or two before settling into the very serious subj= ect of eco-terrorism in this country. Clausen, a Vietnam veteran, spoke ab= out how members of Earth First! and the Animal Liberation Front have declar= ed war on corporate America. Clausen then told about how media giant, Ted Turner, has given mill= ions of dollars to radical environmental groups and how Turner's Foundation= with an endowment of nearly $500 million is the largest eco-charity in t= he country. In fact, journalist and Earth First! sympathizer Dan Oko r= eferred to Turner as "Daddy Greenbucks." The presentation was closed with a description about Habitat Conser= vation Plans and how they do not protect the property owner from excessive government oversight and regulation. In fact, HCPs invite environme= ntal groups and all other members of the public to play a major role in = how you manage your own lands. Griffith also said, "Citizens have a moral, constitutional, and hum= an right to hold elected officials accountable. They have the same rig= hts to hold bureaucrats accountable as well. The citizens of Orick have be= en visited with every insult, assault and lie a federal government cou= ld create, a government that has shown it has no respect for them and wants to see their town gone." "State, federal and county governments make private property develo= pers live up to often expensive and exhaustive requirements before grant= ing land use permits. The citizens of Orick should be afforded that sam= e thoroughness of expectation, review and detail when the 'developmen= t' is introduced by the federal government. If a private developer does n= ot fulfill the requirements placed on his permit, it is revoked. The s= ame standard should apply to the federal government," Griffith continued. "The National Parks Service so far has failed on all its promises t= o the people of Orick. It must explain why. I have not made my three visi= ts to Orick to create trouble for the Humboldt County Board of Supervisor= s. But I say that the residents of Orick are entitled to answers from thei= r elected officials, just as the citizens of my county are entitled t= o the same from me," Griffith stated. During the program, Amador held up a T-shirt that a number of women= were wearing. The shirt had a multiple-choice questionnaire imprinted on= the front. It said, "Who lives in Orick according to the NPS? -- 1. A crack-whore, 2. A low-life scum, 3. none of the above, 4. all of th= e above. " This shirt was made in response to a recent incident where a local = female hiker was on a NPS trail when she encountered a park ranger and ask= ed the agency representative why there were so few tourists in the area. I= n response to her question, the ranger said, "The reason why there ar= e so few visitors is because they have heard that anyone who lives in Or= ick is either a crack-whore or a red-neck." The young lady who told Amador= her story said that even her 85 year-old grandmother is wearing one of = those T-shirts as a sign of protest. Amador said, "No wonder the town of Orick feels betrayed by this government agency." Larry Toelle, a field director for the People for the USA, was the = last speaker and he explained about how rural communities have been conf= ronted with an agonizing barrage of county, state, and federal regulations= the are quite literally strangling the life out of ranchers, farmers, a= nd other multiple-use interests. Toelle urged everyone to become S.O.B.s. After telling folks that m= ost people thought he was one, he said that those of us fighting back a= gainst the socialization of our natural resources by the radical environme= ntal movement have to become tough and take on the persona of a S.O.B. Toelle said, "Our enemies in the Green Party who are seeking to des= troy this country are tough customers and we have to become even tougher...become one mean and tough S.O.B." The great French philosopher, Alexis De Tocqueville, once said, "De= mocracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But no= tice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialis= m seeks equality in restraint and servitude." The town of Orick has asked President Bush to help them reopen the = beaches and to save their community in a letter sent to him several months = ago. To date, the President has ignored their requests. However, the Sav= e Orick Committee and others are determined to fight the NPS's attempt to p= erform "rural cleansing" on this small coastal town where so much has been promised... and so little delivered. Permission to reprint/republish granted, as long as you include the name = of our site, the author, and our URL. www.SierraTimes.com All Sierra Times news reports, and all editorials are =A9 2001 SierraTime= s.com (unless otherwise noted) SierraTimes.com - A Subsidiary of J.J. Johnson Enterprises, Inc. --=20 --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! --- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: The Upcoming Vote Scam: From Shonda (fwd) Date: 10 Jul 2001 23:33:32 -0700 Shonda M. Ponder 10300 Harwin Drive #520 Houston, Texas 77036 713-771-4752 Friends of Liberty, International http://www.friendsofliberty.com shondaponder@worldnet.att.net ============================================================ The Upcoming Vote Scam July 9, 2001 - by Shonda M. Ponder http://www.friendsofliberty.com/files/2001/07/09/01.htm Friends of Liberty, International I guess you've got the emails, too. Seems like everyone has "received word" in some form or another as to the controversiality regarding whether Bush is or isn't our "elected" president. And, even though Bush was my choice of the "lesser of two evils", the subject of corruption in the voting booth deserves attention. First it was the Butterfly ballots that caused all the commotion. For some reason, those old women who could mark a B-17 on those Florida Bingo Cards in less than 2 seconds just couldn't seem to figure out which square to fill in for their candidates. Some of the Ballots got bent, and some of the voters didn't follow directions and fill in that circle all the way. It has always been my practice that, if I want something done, to do it. And, if something is broke, to fix it. So, the first step, then would be to define the problem. The problem, in this case, was the unease of use of the voting tools available. In fixing this problem, we have to consider that there are other problems that we do not wish to create in the name of fixing this one problem, otherwise, the politicians will just legislate more laws that make it impossible to use your voting privileges wisely. After all, look what they did recently when they realized that their people were facing a great danger, not being able to get elected! Campaign Finance Reform is a trojan horse. The voting scandal in Florida led to hours, if not weeks, of counting ballots by hand. This, of course, was the only sure way to tell who had been elected. Of course, those who did the counting didn't much like it. And, our Representatives didn't much like it either. They had to wait for an answer. It's okay to make us wait for them, but God help us if we make them wait for anything! So, it stands to reason that now, we need a ballot that is not only easy to read, but easy to count. And, of course, there are civil rights that were alleged to have been violated at the polls. Unfortunately, there isn't a ballot you can make that will guard against that...unless of course you wish to change the law so that all illegal immigrants and convicted felons can vote. But, we got to try to make one anyway, just so that we can say that we are "working on the problem." The only solution that anyone has been able to come up with is computerized touch-screens. In walks the voting technology companies. A good example is Election Systems & Software, Inc. (ES&S) "As ES&S supports modernizing Florida's voting environment in the months ahead, our partnership with Florida-based MTS enables ES&S to responsively support our new touch-screen voting and optical scan clients," stated Mike Limas, ES&S chief operating officer. "MTS has a tremendous reputation throughout the state of Florida for delivering the highest level of service to election systems clients." Computerized Touch Screen voting. One of the problems I have with the "Powers that be" is that usually, when they attempt to solve a problem, they create more in the process. This is due to simply not thinking ahead. So, let's look at a few of the problems that will need to be addressed now that many states have settled on computerized touch-screens as a solution. #1: How many times have you wanted to throw your computer out the window because it wouldn't work right? #2: How many times has your bank notified you due to a computer error causing an overdraft in your account? (this has happened to me twice, btw). #3: How many times have you been notified by the main media that some government site has been hacked? (Remember, this is a government site, therefore this site had excessive security measures to insure that it wouldn't be hacked, but it was anyway). #4. How many times have you clicked a button once, only to backspace because you accidently clicked it twice? (Oh, that's right, this is "touch-screen", right?) #5. You use a touch-screen on most bank-cards when withdrawing money at an ATM machine. How many times have you made a mistake because the screen was either too touchy or not touchy enough? Or, because of a computer malfunction? And lastly, when guarding against vote fraud, #6 How easy is it for a hacker to change the number of the count on the computer? When voting for the most important office of the United States, don't you think these questions need to be addressed seriously? Unfortunately, many of the states have taken the stance that none of this matters, so long as they are showing an effort in solving the original problems to begin with. Isn't it about time that We the People started demanding an insight into these scenarios? ======= Don't forget to check out our messageboard at http://www.friendsofliberty.com/messageboard/intro.htm Want to submit your article or news? http://www.friendsofliberty.com/submit/arsubmit.htm Got an editorial you'd like to see posted? http://www.friendsofliberty.com/submit/oesubmit.htm Want to make a complaint about a product or service at fli? http://www.friendsofliberty.com/submit/complain.htm Want to submit your press release? http://www.friendsofliberty.com/submit/prsubmit.htm Need to gripe or inquire at the FLI webmasters? http://www.friendsofliberty.com/submit/webmaster.htm Cut out the middlemen. Send donations to: Boys Scouts of America National HQ 1329 Walnut Hill Ln. Irving, TX 75162 http://www.SaveOurScouts.com -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Eagle Forum's Court Watch -- ACTION ALERT (fwd) Date: 10 Jul 2001 23:35:10 -0700 Eagle Forum's Court Watch -- ACTION ALERT ~ URGENT ~ Action Needed on Judicial Nominations 7-06-01 The battle has begun in earnest over President Bush's nominees to the federal courts. What takes place with these nominees over the coming weeks and months will dramatically affect the legal and social/moral direction of the nation for decades to come. Please join immediately with Eagle Forum's Court Watch in helping mobilize our essential grassroots campaign to combat liberal Democratic control of the Senate Judiciary Committee and counteract the left-wing's use of ideological litmus tests to block conservative judicial appointments. The Senate Judiciary Committee is planning to conduct initial hearings on Judicial Nominations beginning July 11. To help facilitate a massive uprising from all concerned Americans at this critical time, Court Watch has produced the following arsenal of special resources: 1. A Special Three-Part Report illustrating the urgent need for Court Reform while highlighting timely rulings from the federal judiciary as compelling evidence; http://www.eagleforum.org/court_watch/reports/2001/6-27-01/3-part-report.shtml 2. The new Court Watch "How to Promote Court Reform in the Media" lobbying guide; http://www.eagleforum.org/court_watch/reports/2001/6-27-01/lobby-guide.pdf 3. Talking Points bulletin featuring useful links to resources on the Judiciary. http://www.eagleforum.org/court_watch/reports/2001/6-27-01/talking-points.shtml 4. Useful Quotes from key leaders pertinent to this current battle; http://www.eagleforum.org/court_watch/reports/2001/6-27-01/RES-IPSA-LOQUITUR.shtml 5. Sample letters to your Senators and members of the Senate Judiciary Committee; http://www.eagleforum.org/court_watch/reports/2001/6-27-01/Sample-Letter-members.shtml 6. A Sample letter to President Bush; and http://www.eagleforum.org/court_watch/reports/2001/6-27-01/Sample-Letter-Prez-Bush.shtml 7. 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This is the one war that conservative and pro-family groups cannot afford to lose if we do not want to see our hard-fought victories on other battlefronts consistently struck down by the activist-leftist courts! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Read this alert online: http://www.eagleforum.org/court_watch/alerts/2001/7-06-01.shtml ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eagle Forum * PO Box 618 * Alton, IL 62002 Phone: 618-462-5415 * Fax: 618-462-8909 http://www.eagleforum.org * eagle@eagleforum.org EAGLE FORUM PO Box 618 Alton, IL 62002 Phone: 618-462-5415 Fax: 618-462-8909 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TO SUBSCRIBE http://www.eagleforum.org/misc/subscribe.html -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Ooooh, dem spoox is SCHMART!!! (fwd) Date: 12 Jul 2001 23:03:54 -0700 Something to think about! Gen'lmen: It's long bothered me that there's absolutely free software floating around like "WinAmp", etc. They don't do advertisements, yet they put out incredible quality software for free. It didn't make sense. It's been bugging me and bugging me and... Well, I tooky a little look more closely. EVERY! single piece of freebie software that I've checked so far reports back to the spooks in VA. I probably got turned on to it last night when I was doing something else and my ZoneAlarm warned me that someone was trying to get into my computer. Strange thing, I wasn't even ON the internet!! Or so I thought. WinAmp had taken it upon itself to dial out and make a connection without me knowing about it! (Connected to the now-infamous UUNet/NSA front-end in Virginia.) Words to the wise! -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chad Leigh, Pengar Enterprises, Inc & Shire.Net LLC" Subject: FW: War at hand? We may never know (fwd) Date: 13 Jul 2001 15:23:34 -0400 Is our buddy Don from New Paltz still on the ROC list? Any comments? Chad ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Finally an explanation for the incessant coverage, every hour on the hour for a long time each time, of the medical condition of that boy whose arm a shark bit off near Pensacola. No URL provided as I received this. Scott Chomsky's proof By William Rivers Pitt The United States is unusual among the industrial democracies in the rigidity of the system of ideological control?'indoctrination,' we might say?exercised through the mass media. ?Noam Chomsky June 25, 2001?In the early morning hours of Thursday, June 22, 2001, a man named Jared T. Bozydaj took to the streets of New Paltz, New York, with an Intrac Arms 7.62 semi-automatic assault rifle. He fired pointedly at police officers, wounding one officer named Jeffery Quiepo in the arm. The shooting went on for several hours before Bozydaj was disarmed and arrested. Bozydaj was described as being highly upset by the execution of Timothy McVeigh. He apparently had decided to take revenge in McVeigh's name on the police, whom Bozydaj referred to as "control mechanisms for the government." Weapons and literature in his apartment indicated that Bozydaj had been planning this attack for some time. New Paltz is a small community near the Hudson River about an hour north of New York City. The downtown district is filled with small stores, as well as a number of bars that cater to the students of the State University of New York (SUNY) New Paltz, the campus of which is only a few blocks away from where this shooting occurred. The best word to describe the place is 'quaint.' My girlfriend was born and raised near this town. I have spent many drunken hours with her in the bars that now bear the bullet holes from Bozydaj's rampage. My girlfriend's parents report that much of downtown New Paltz is roped off with yellow police tape today. One can see quite clearly the damage done by Bozydaj's assault rifle, and the police believe it is a miracle that no one was killed. One SUNY student reported that eight bullets passed through her bedroom wall, and said that she would have been shot in the head if her radiator had not deflected the rounds. I discovered this story on the forums of DemocraticUnderground.com, where someone had posted it as a topic for discussion about McVeigh-oriented violence. I forwarded the link, a story from the Zwire news service, to my girlfriend, for obvious reasons. She called her parents and got the story from the ground. The local New Paltz paper, the Times-Herald Record, covered the shooting in detail, and she sent me the link to their story. The next day, my girlfriend called me. "I haven't seen this story in any of the newspapers," she said. "It wasn't on CNN or Peter Jennings last night. Why do you think they aren't reporting this? Some guy shot up my town, and shot a cop. That's news, isn't it?" I am a news junkie, and had myself noticed that this interesting and disturbing story had not appeared anywhere in the national news media. Using the words "New Paltz" and "Bozydaj," I searched The New York Times, an obvious place for this story to appear, and came up empty. I did the same at CNN.com, The Washington Post, ABCNews.com and several other news outlets, and found nothing. A man, motivated by the execution of Timothy McVeigh, had gone on an hours-long shooting rampage directed exclusively at cops in a small New York town with a sophisticated assault rifle. He blew a hole in a cop, and shot hell out of every storefront in the vicinity. He nearly put a bullet through the head of a sleeping college student. Somehow, this was not deemed newsworthy by virtually every major news outlet in America, including the Times of New York, the state where this shooting took place. Why? An immediate explanation is that the editors of these news sources were acting out of a sense of responsibility. For most Americans, the name Timothy McVeigh is synonymous with pure evil. It is likely that a decision was reached among the purveyors of our information that nothing should be published or broadcast that will give ear to those who consider McVeigh a martyred hero. The fear, I suppose, is that if enough of these kinds of stories get out, some of our militia-oriented citizenry will think the Revolution is finally at hand, and take to the streets of their own small burgs with rifles at the ready. This kind of quiet censorship, however, raises some disturbing questions. If unreported McVeigh-motivated shootings like this are happening in New Paltz, where I am lucky enough to have eyes on the ground, where else are they happening, and going unreported? I have no friends in Akron, Butte, Silver Springs, Kissimmee, El Paso, or Needles. Where else in America is violence like this breaking loose? Why are we not being told of it? What else is being withheld? Noted linguist Noam Chomsky has observed many times that the national media is not the information-disbursing entity created by our love for the First Amendment of the Constitution. Rather, the national media is the propaganda wing of the status quo. The national media tells us things in a certain way to keep our eyes on the ground, and to keep us from questioning power too closely. When no other avenue is available to control the masses, the national media simply refuses to inform us at all. We have seen this phenomenon many times in many places. How many of us truly know the level of poverty that exists in America? How many of us know the toll our sanctions in Iraq have taken on the civilian populace of that country? How many of us know the number of dead that were left at the hands of CIA-trained and armed murderers in Nicaragua during the Reagan administration? How many of us truly know the extent to which corporations run the government of this country? Were we told all the facts in unpolished newspaper prose, a howl of outrage the likes of which has never before been heard would rise from the throat of the American populace. This, more than anything, is the reason we are left in our uninformed state of bliss. Were we to be truly informed by the media outlets, so much would change so fast, and so many of those who hold the power and the purse strings would be run out of town on a rail, that the very nature of power in this country would be shattered forever. Those who sup on the teat of the status quo want nothing to do with this. Ergo, we are left in the dark. Such a condition is beyond the concepts of Left or Right. Political affiliation is mere window-dressing in the high apartments of true power in America. One need only look at the corporate connections of Gore and Bush, our last two presidential challengers, to know that party politics doesn't matter a damn at the end of the day. Everything boils down to the central question: who rules? Not us, friends. Not when we are kept safe and uninformed. It is better this way, when the tree-shakers are kept out of the loop. The fact that Mr. Bozydaj's shooting rampage went completely unreported by the national news media, an entity entrusted with informing this vast nation about the truths that happen within its borders, should shake your confidence in what we are told to its foundations. I don't care for Mr. Bozydaj's views, and I despise anyone who would attack police officers with an assault rifle. But, simply put, he happened. We deserve to know. If the news media can report on a consensual relationship between adults for two years, they can report on Mr. Bozydaj. If the news media can report on every school shooting, despite the real danger of inciting copycat outrages, they can report on Mr. Bozydaj. And if they can report the actions of Mr. Bozydaj, they can certainly report other stories, as well. We deserve to know who runs this country. We deserve to know where we are at war, and who is dying. We deserve to know where we have been at war, and whom we killed. We deserve to know who is starving in our country, and why. We deserve to know what happened in Florida. We deserve to know many things we are never told of, or are lied to about. When we are not told, we are deprived of the right and ability to determine the course of this country, as is our purpose as citizens. We all know the dangers of making uninformed decisions, having done so to our woe many times in our daily lives. How many decisions have we made in the name of this nation without all the relevant facts in hand? How many more such decisions will we make? Too often, others do our thinking for us. The story of Mr. Bozydaj is just one example of this phenomenon. If you love this country, fear in your soul what other areas in the life of our country you are not allowed to participate in, simply because someone else decided you didn't need to know. - ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- Pengar Enterprises, Inc. and Shire.Net LLC Web and Macintosh Consulting -- full service web hosting Chad Leigh chad@pengar.com chad@shire.net - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: City-Living Linked To Increased Psychotic Symptoms (fwd) Date: 13 Jul 2001 15:14:11 -0700 Now this makes some sense. Remember the red-blue maps..... City-Living Linked To Increased Psychotic Symptoms 7-13-1 NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Urban dwelling has never been known for its soothing effects, but new research suggests that people living in large cities are more likely than small-town residents to exhibit psychotic-like symptoms such as paranoia and delusions. In a study of more than 7,000 people in the Netherlands, investigators found that both full-blown psychotic disorders and milder psychosis-like symptoms were more common among those living in urbanized areas. The link was most apparent among people born and raised in densely populated areas, suggesting that childhood environment may create ``enduring liabilities'' for adult psychiatric health, according to the researchers. Dr. Jim van Os of Maastricht University and colleagues report the findings in the July issue of the Archives of General Psychiatry. The researchers divided the study participants into groups living in one of five levels of urbanization, which were based on population density. Through interviews, van Os and his colleagues determined that the prevalence of psychiatric symptoms increased along with participants' level of urbanization. In the overall population, the prevalence of any type of psychotic symptoms over a lifetime was about 4% to 17%, depending on the definition of symptoms. The investigators looked at the number and severity of symptoms such as feelings of persecution or auditory hallucinations. Only about 1% suffered mental illnesses such as major depression, and even fewer had been affected by schizophrenia-like disorders. The fact that such symptoms were more common in urban settings could be partly explained by symptomatic individuals having ``drifted'' to these areas, the authors note. However, they add, their previous research has shown population stability in cities--that is, around 75% of city dwellers were born there. And a number of studies have demonstrated that psychotic illness is more prevalent in urban settings than in rural areas, the report indicates. ``The high rates of psychotic illness in urban environments may be the result of the influence of environmental factors,'' van Os and colleagues write. ``As the urban effect appears to have its impact during urban upbringing rather than during adult residence per se, developmental mechanisms ought to be considered.'' The fact that in this study, psychosis-like symptoms as well as full-blown illnesses were more common in cities suggests a greater ``psychosis proneness'' in urban settings, they add. Why this potential connection exists is unclear, but the researchers note that deprivation and social isolation in childhood neighborhoods have been shown to affect mental health. Another recent study in Denmark linked urban birth with an increased of developing schizophrenia. While family history was a far greater predictor of the risk, place of birth emerged as an environmental factor. Those researchers speculated that people born in urban areas are exposed to more infections during prenatal development and childhood. Some experts believe early exposure to infections may affect the developing brain in a way that makes it more vulnerable to schizophrenia. SOURCE: Archives of General Psychiatry 2001;58:663-668. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Another Victory. (fwd) Date: 14 Jul 2001 11:15:18 -0700 FYI -------- Original Message -------- House Guns Down Anti-Freedom Bill -- Your hard work has been well worth the effort! Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org (Friday, July 13, 2001) -- The House of Representatives shot down the Incumbent Protection Bill yesterday by a vote of 228-203. Victory came from a surprising corner of the House... from the supporters of the bill itself! Nineteen Republicans joined 209 disgruntled Democrats who could not agree on the rules for debating the anti-gun legislation. The supporters couldn't agree on the rules because they couldn't agree on the specifics in the bill. According to the Associated Press this morning, the Republican leadership crafted a rule for debate that would force "separate votes on killing a dozen late-hour changes" that the sponsors of the bill wanted to incorporate. The sponsors had asked that the package of changes be considered as a whole. Democrats were furious with the terms of debate, so they voted to sink their own bill. But there's even more good news. As stated by Salon magazine yesterday, the math on this bill shows the anti-freedom forces have been losing a war of attrition over the years: "On the other side of the aisle, 54 Republicans supported the bill in 1999, and 61 in 1998." But yesterday, only 19 Republicans supported the Incumbent Protection Bill, a total decrease of almost 70 percent in three years. "This victory should encourage gun owners," said GOA Executive Director Larry Pratt. "Your activism is important. It does make a difference, and our rights would be in greater jeopardy if you remained silent." The Incumbent Protection Bill would squelch the ability of groups like GOA to report on a candidate's record during a campaign. The anti-gun bill has now been put off indefinitely, and House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R) said he had no plans to bring up Incumbent Protection in the near future. Hill watchers predict the bill could be dead for the legislative session. Although House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D) says he might turn to a discharge petition which would force the Incumbent Protection Bill to the floor for a vote if Representatives can garner 218 signatures. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Fiedor Report on the News (fwd) Date: 15 Jul 2001 00:26:03 -0700 Fiedor Report on the News A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia July 15, 2001 #236 by: Doug Fiedor dfiedor@home.com MORE BUREAUCRATIC OPPRESSION Bureaucrats tend to justify their own existence by branching out into new areas. Except, every time they migrate into new territories, they also make more law regulating the actions of the people. Better put, to justify their existence, bureaucrats continually look for new reasons to write more regulations that allow them to exert control over non bureaucrats. Nonetheless, they are still fun to watch. On one hand, they tell us we live in the freest country in the world. In the next breath, they state that we could be imprisoned for using too much water in our toilet, marketing products without a license, driving without a seatbelt, or saying a little prayer in a public building. They still agree that the Constitution has a Ninth and Tenth Amendment. Then they say that their bureaucratic function, of course, supercedes all that. That's justified with their favorite mantra: "for the health of the children." That mantra allowed government to regulate bread, cereal, meat, fish, toilet paper, fast food, and thousands of useful chemicals -- including natural elements. Years ago, one of the government's silliest programs was their sudden quest to get lead out of everything. Government said it was "for the children," so every liberal media outlet in the country touted the dangers of lead in the environment -- without having the slightest idea what the hell they were talking about. It is true that one will be harmed by eating lead. Iron, copper and zinc are not good to eat, either. Bureaucrats needed more than just that little fact to justify "getting the lead out." So, they said lead is responsible for causing slow learners in children. No mother wants her kid to be a slow learner, so there you have it. The lead is now out of gasoline, paint and whatever. And, what happened? The scholastic ability of children crashed significantly. Did the lack of lead have anything to do with that? Of course not. But neither did the presence of lead in our daily environment cause slow learners for any but those who consumed a lot of it. The Environmental Protection Agency didn't learn much from that silly caper. Now, they want to regulate dirt. Yeah, dirt; as in dry dirt in the form of dust in the air. It shall be illegal to have dirt (dust) in the air because some child may breathe it. There is no concern, however, that man has been eating and breathing dirt and dust continuously since his existence on this earth. One might guess that we would be used to that by now. Among other natural elements now proposed for government control, we read that: "EPA is directed to propose legislation and work with Congress to establish mandatory reduction targets for sulfur, nitrogen oxide and mercury. The legislation should include a reasonable phase in period, regulatory certainty for utilities, and market based incentives."(1) The operative word there is "mandatory." That's the word that allows them to attack anyone not complying with (squad fire) SWAT teams. Apparently, a boy cannot even play with a little mercury on his desk in school anymore. What a shame. No more shiny dimes. It continues, though. According to that same EPA directive: "All agencies are directed to support continued research into global climate change. Agencies should work domestically and in cooperation with allies to develop technologies, market-based incentives, and other innovative approaches to address the issue of global climate change." Here's another inconvenient little question: When did the last ice age end? The answer is very inconvenient: It is just now ending. So, what might one envision happening around the earth at the end of an ice age? According to the scientists at the Illinois State Museum: "If 'ice age' is used to refer to long, generally cool, intervals during which glaciers advance and retreat, we are still in one today. Our modern climate represents a very short, warm period between glacial advances."(2) The U.S. Geological Survey publishes "Glimpses of the Ice Age from I-81" about the remnants of the Ice Age on the mountains between Strasburg and Harrisonburg, Virginia.(3) Yes, bureaucrats are fun to watch. But, they are also a very dangerous lot. Quite often, they use junk science and even out and out lies to alarm the general public. Then, their fixes for their contrived problems always center around more control over the private and public affairs of the people. And, with very few exceptions, the liberal American media allow bureaucrats to get away with it. 1. http://www.epa.gov/epahome/headline_051801.htm 2. http://museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice_ages/when_ice_ages.html 3. http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/i81/ MORE CAPITAL HILL TURPITUDE Socialists, scoundrels and scumbags abound. Anyone studying government knows that is how Capital Hill is. It's always been bad there. But after Clinton, moral turpitude is even more common and acceptable. The bulk of the sleaze is on the Democratic side. But, with only a couple exceptions, even the best of the Republicans are also guilty because they do not speak up. They are supposed to be lawmakers, not taciturn spectators. By not reporting blatant lawbreaking by their coworkers, they are themselves breaking the law. For instance, most Americans know there was rampant voter fraud in the last election. Yet, we hear no outrage from any quarter in Washington. Nothing is done. No grand jury was impaneled. No investigations are in progress. So, apparently everyone in Washington agrees that widespread voter fraud is now acceptable. It's the same story with campaign finance. There are people bragging that they gave about a million bucks to the Hillary for Senate campaign. Well, I hate to be inconvenient here, but according to federal law, the limit is $2,000. So, why no arrests? Right. As the Democrats say, everyone does it. So, that apparently makes it legal. Except, there's still those campaign laws. . . . Two years ago, someone got their underwear in a bunch and turned in the little loudmouth, Senator Robert Torricelli (D-NJ), for campaign fundraising illegalities. Soon thereafter, Torricelli found himself under investigation by Mary Jo White, U.S. Attorney for New York -- a Clinton appointee. White already got convictions on some of the players in that case and it appears that Torricelli is to be indicted very soon. This could be a great case to watch. Because, also involved in the illegal campaign finance scam are the two Senators from New York and a couple others. So, if White nails Torricelli, there might also be a domino effect -- and about five Republican Senators appointed. Because, according to rumor on the street, besides the illegal campaign finance activities, these Senators have all also received a number of rather expensive gifts under the table.(1) Five socialists, one case. We look for the dominoes to start falling next month. Expect the incessant whine of the Democrats to be very entertaining, at least for the first week. It looks like a cocky, little gun-grabbing socialist on the House side will be drummed out of politics, too. This is just another of those stories of a man in power fishing in the secretarial (intern) pool and getting caught. That's always a stupid thing to do and he knew it. So Rep. Gary A. Condit (D-CA), another member of the Party of the Ass, bites the dust. Yawn. . . . Why? No, not because his little paramour, Chandra Levy, came up missing. How many does that make in Washington? Probably at least twenty interns, pages and whatever have turned up missing in the past couple years. Some were found dead. Most were never found. There's a very large ocean right next to the District. It's easy to make sure someone stays disappeared there. The point is, this is a story that should not be much of a story. Yet, it's easy to report, so the media feeds on it like Teddy Kennedy scarfing up finger food at happy hour. So, now we know Condit changes favorite squeezes about as often as some Senators change their Depends. Sometimes he was "dating" two or three at a time. And, we learn, he liked a little bondage and discipline sometimes and even hung out with the Hells Angels. Just your average Democratic scumbag politician, in other words. Then he screwed up. So, now he's going to have to resign and he may get prosecuted. He blatantly broke the law, almost right in front of us all. One of his main squeezes, the coffee, tea or me stewardess Anne Marie Smith, is making the TV chat show rounds admitting her tryst with a married man. As part of her story, she seems to have evidence that Condit pulled a Clinton and tried a little witness tampering and suborning perjury. Condit tried to persuade the flight attendant to deny their affair under oath. Didn't work. Smith blabbed. Now he's in trouble. Suddenly, everyone involved hired lawyers and publicists and we are stuck hearing about these jerks all day every day. Meanwhile, there are a couple thousand people in Washington trying to completely entrench socialism in the United States and the media spends all its time reporting this soap opera. 1. http://torricellideathwatch.com/torch1.html HERE COMES REAL FASCISM From time to time, we've been using the term "fascist" in reference to certain government activities. That's because, when an action or program instituted by government is socialistic, reactionary and dictatorial in nature, the tag "fascist" seems to be all that fits properly. So, when we see government demand that businesses like banks provide government agents private information on all customers, allow their bureaucracies to assume everyone is guilty and force people to prove their innocence, and send heavily armed masked men to raid people's homes in the dead of night, we call it as we see it. These tactics should not exist in the United States. Government agents intend to push us as far as possible with their Big Brother style technological snooping. The latest assault on our liberty is the mating of video cameras with computers. Every day, in over 60 jurisdictions around the country, cameras are used to catch people as they try to beat yellow lights.(1) According to USA Today: "In San Diego alone, more than 60,000 traffic tickets are issued each year from the cameras at 19 intersections." That's bad enough. But now, other areas like Virginia Beach, Tampa, Florida and The Colorado Department of Motor Vehicles, plan true Big Brother-like fascism in the form of creating massive databases that contain computerized three-dimensional facial maps of residents. Surveillance cameras are then to be placed in various popular areas so people "police are looking for" can be identified. Privacy and liberty be damned, in other words. The expediency of government agents must take precedence over Constitutional freedoms. Not everyone in government agrees with this type of Big Brother fascism, though. Last Wednesday, House Republican Leader Richard Armey (R-TX) and the American Civil Liberties Union issued a joint statement calling on state and local governments to stop using surveillance cameras.(2) "Over the past several days, a troubling expansion in the way technology is being used in the surveillance of ordinary Americans has come to light. In response, we are today joining together to call on all state and local governments to stop using these dangerous technologies now before privacy in America is so diminished that it becomes nothing more than a fond memory." The statement concluded: "The threats to privacy in America are all too real. We believe the privacy risk outweighs any benefits that these devices may offer. It's time to take notice of what has happened to privacy in America today." We agree with the Majority Leader, of course. However, we also note that there are another five-hundred and thirty-some people in Congress who are saying absolutely nothing. Those on the various intelligence committees would be especially welcome to speak out. Because . . . it appears there may be a coordinated method to this madness. In the background, there is a government movement to create a fancy new position with all sorts of very serious new powers. And, of course, they want the ability to find anyone at anytime. This comes from the report of The U.S. Commission on National Security/21st Century. They start out with: "We recommend that a new office of Assistant Secretary for Homeland Security be created to oversee the various Department of Defense activities and ensure that the necessary resources are made available." Which, in civilian speak means, the American military should be used against civilians on American soil. "New priorities also need to be set for the U.S. armed forces in light of the threat to the homeland. We urge, in particular, that the National Guard be given homeland security as a primary mission, as the U.S. Constitution itself ordains. The National Guard should be reorganized, trained, and equipped to undertake that mission." National Guard as police, in other words. It's probably acceptable to have the National Guard protect our borders. After all, something needs to be done to block that constant assault of illegal drugs and aliens. But, these people are trained as military -- to kill people and break things -- and may not be trusted to act as peace officers. In summary, they report: "Finally, we recommend that Congress reorganize itself to accommodate this Executive Branch realignment, and that it also form a special select committee for homeland security to provide Congressional support and oversight in this critical area." This would be yet another Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) caper, of course. It is, more or less, just another step in putting FEMA(4) in control of everything whenever they wish to declare an emergency. 1. http://freedom.house.gov/auto 2. http://freedom.house.gov/library/technology/aclu.asp 3. http://www.nssg.gov/phaseiii.pdf Note: the above link does not work 24/7 4. http://www.fema.gov ~ End ~ -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: THE RAMBLINGS OF A BARBARIAN... SOCIALISTS, AMBITIONS AND OUR REALITIES (fwd) Date: 15 Jul 2001 17:37:26 -0700 OUR REALITIES http://etherzone.com/mcna072001.shtml THE RAMBLINGS OF A BARBARIAN SOCIALISTS, AMBITIONS AND OUR REALITIES By: Somerled McNamar In our lives we constantly seem to be bound across our own wide Missouri. I'm not speaking of the river of this great country but the wide Missouri that always rolls between our ambitions and our realities. We long to sit= on the shady banks of the Shenandoah in the gentle twilight of the past wher= e the summer air is cool and the grass is green. We always find a way cross our wide Missouri. We've always been a people forging ahead, searching, mastering our own fate, raising the common man to a higher level as we ra= ise our own level of living. In a sense we do lift ourselves by our own bootstraps for no one walks in our boots but us. No one lifts us. We lift ourselves. The socialist revisionist historians constantly suppress facts to sway th= e politics of generations. What they want you to forget is; there are no ot= her people in the world like Americans and we haven't changed one bit since C= arl Sandburg in his book, Chicago Poems, called us brawlers who willingly grabbed the fates and shook them to our will. We are the same people who wrestled steel girders into place, caught hot rivets and drove them home = to form the tallest buildings ever erected by man. We are the same people wh= o waggoniered the Warriors Path out of Frederickstown accepting danger & de= ath willingly while settling the interiors of Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia. We are the same men Remington loved to sketch as wi= ld horses were tamed. We are the same people who packed families in Conestog= a wagons and followed on the heels of Rogers & Clark as they surveyed the b= ig land west of Illinois. We are the same men filled with dreams who panned = for gold in California creeks, or climbed the frozen Chilcoot Pass over and o= ver to get their required ton of supplies over the yukon range so they could = try their hand at making their dream live. Without the brawn and and mental prowess of the Great Barbarians this country would never have risen to to the grandeur it achieved. The whole world uses American technology and engineering to advance their lives in countless ways, all thanks to the Great Barbarians. Every generation has sought the same basic prize, betterment of their liv= es and nowhere is this concept more profound than in American ownership of land. Ownership of land is cross-cultural, you can find people wanting it= in every country on earth. All types of people want to own their own land whether they be living in the Amazon or the Arctic Circle. When you own l= and you are no longer a wayfarer but part of the land itself. It's colorful nonsense to hear people claim the American Indian didn't understand the concept of land ownership. examples of this are the Sioux Nation that migrated out of South Carolina in very early colonial times, made it to t= he Black Hills of South Dakota and promptly killed off or ran off the tribes already living there so it could be claimed for themselves. Then there's = the Cherokee Nation that tried to kill all their chiefs for signing a bad lan= d contact in 1835. Evidently they understood land very well. Big-Citydweller-Chicken-Littles spend years on concrete mealy-mouthing an= d carping about the lack of land in a country that spans more than two thousand miles long and eight hundred miles wide as if the populace were = all crowded shoulder to shoulder from sea to shining sea. Nothing could be further from the truth, they should take a drive across this beautiful la= nd some time. The truth is they're looking for the gift of America without giving gifts of themselves and it's in the gifts of ourselves that Americ= an people shine. Today the socialists under the guise of humanism work hard to discredit Christian religion and the beliefs in God that flow naturally from christianity. They do this to strike at the very heart of America. Our Constitution rests firmly on the belief in rights given by God. A few learned scholars have presumptuously and foolishly opined the Founding Fathers were Deists and that's so much hogwash laughter should follow any such pronouncement. To believe in Deism you must first believe in God, th= en believe that God has abandoned and forsaken you. Those are the criteria. Believing in Reason alone isn't enough to claim Deism status. Every president elected in this country has mentioned not only the blessi= ngs bestowed upon this country by God, but invoked God's grace to continue th= ose blessings. The Founding Fathers in their proposals, drafts, versions of clauses during their Conventions mentioned God and Religion in the Establishment & Free Exercise Clauses about one hundred and forty-four times. Why did they do it? To protect religion and free exercise within t= he bounds of it's colonies is why. These are not the efforts of men believin= g their God had abandoned them and was dead. If I started placing into this text all the comments from great American statesmen asking for God to gra= ce this country or extolling the beneficence of God on our land this article would expand to lengths that would tire the best reader. I'm sorry about their God but mine is alive and well. Tolerance is another issue. The socialists throw the word around trying t= o change the definition of it. The definition is of two equal constructs. T= he first is; the capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting = the religious beliefs of others. This is freedom of religion in it's purist f= orm and it's practiced daily by millions of folks in this country. The second construct is the one currently being used as a cheap hammer. It is; leewa= y for variation from a standard. Principles are a standard. If a person has principles based on western cultures of goodness then convictions rationally follow, and from those integrity is born as one follows the dictates of good conscience. Followi= ng the dictates of your conscience is not intolerance as some people would h= ave us believe. The best example of this are those people of a sexual predilection who demand respect for their sexual practices while throwing the subject onto the poker table of political speech then demand that speaking of it violates their right somewhere? They are violating my principles of conscience as well as violating my first amendment rights o= n political speech which are very much protected. "Leeway from variation of= a standard," implies agreement by both the standard bearer and the variator. If there is no agreement there is no tolerance and the standard remains a= s it was. Let us hold fast to our understanding that there can be no men of good conscience, no natural rights from God, and no America the Free without religion. Our Lady Liberty in New York stands upon broken chains of injustice. Without religion there is no justice. It's time for this great barbarian to rest his pen. Somerled McNamar is a free lance writer and a frequent contributor to Eth= er Zone. Somerled McNamar can be reached at BlueGjin@aol.com Published in the July 20, 2001 issue of Ether Zone Online Copyright =A9 2001 Ether Zone Online. (http://etherzone.com). Reposting permitted with this message intact. --=20 --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! --- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Confiscation of Registered Guns Begins (fwd) Date: 15 Jul 2001 17:38:27 -0700 FYI - CAGE has every handgun buyer's name in the US??? How can this be? Confiscation of Registered Guns Begins in Illinois http://www.isra.org/nsnews.htm - 7/15/2001 The Chicago Police Department and the Illinois State Police have teamed up to make good on Mayor Daley's pledge that, if it were up to him, nobody would have a gun. Daley and his elite "CAGE" unit are apparently taking advantage of gun privacy loopholes to pinpoint certain individuals for inclusion in the confiscation program. The ISRA is following up on leads in one case that has distrubing implications. An elderly first-generation Chicago resident was recently paid a visit by an Illinois State Police trooper. After asking to come inside the man's home, the trooper asked if the man owned a gun - to which he replied yes. The trooper then directed the individual to surrender the firearm. The man complied with the officer's demand and the trooper left with the gun. And the story gets better... The gun in question was purchased legally by the man in the 1970s shortly after he became a U.S. citizen. When Chicago's infamous gun registration scheme went into effect in the early 1980s, the man registered the firearm as per the requirement. However, over the years, the fellow apparenlty forgot to re-register the firearm, and forgot to renew his Illinois FOID Card. So...what does this all mean? In the last edition of The Illinois Shooter, we reported on the activities of a shady taskforce known as the Chicago Anti Gun Efforcement (CAGE) unit. This elite squad, operated jointly by the Illinois State Police, the Chicago Police Department, and the Cook County State's Attorney's Office, supposedly exists to identify illegal gunrunners. However, information gained by the ISRA makes it clear that the CAGE unit is targeting law-abiding citizens, not criminal gunrunners. Thanks to a ruling by a liberal federal judge, the CAGE unit now has the name of every single person in the United States who, since 1992, lawfully purchased more than one handgun in the period of a week. The CAGE unit also has all the makes, models and serial numbers of those guns. In essence, the Chicago Police Department is now registering guns and gun owners nationwide. The ISRA has also learned that the CAGE unit has compiled a list of families where more than one person in that family holds a FOID card. Acting on that information, the CAGE unit is now contacting gun shops where those families have shopped, and is illegally registering all guns purchased by those families. Now, it appears that the CAGE unit is scrubbing Chicago's gun registration list against the list of FOID card holders. Indications are that folks who have let their registrations and FOIDs lapse will have their guns confiscated. We have to wonder how long it will be until state troopers show up at the doors to confiscate the guns of non-Chicago residents who have let their FOIDs expire. More later as this story develops. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Local Sheriff tells U.S. Marshalls to Leave the Headgates at Klamath Falls (fwd) Date: 15 Jul 2001 17:39:30 -0700 Here's to the sheriff--obviously the states gov is nowhere to be heard or the God squad may have been convened--------------------------------------------------------- Jim and Mary Ann Baruch baruch@gilanet.com fax:505 536 3268 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 7:47 AM Falls http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3b4fd21639d1.htm Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. Local Sheriff tells U.S. Marshalls to Leave the Headgates at Klamath Falls News/Current Events Breaking News News Source: people on the scene Published: July 13, 2001 Author: My friend Larry and I Posted on 07/13/2001 22:01:10 PDT by forester As of 9:30 PM PST the headgates that provide water to the drought stricken farms of the Klamath Basin are open and flowing!!! Currently there are 50-60 people gathered outside of the headgates standing vigil over the dozen farmers who now have blocked the entrance to the open gates. To ease their apprehension, they are laughing and singing christian songs. The mood was much different several hours earlier when the local sheriff confronted the federal marshalls. First the local sheriff, politely requested the protesters to stand on city property that lies outside of the fence, and is off of federal land. Because the sheriff is actively supporting his constituents, he is receiving tremendous support from the people. After the protesters complied, he then told the U.S. Marshalls to leave. After a heated confrontation, the Marshalls left. As of this time, there is no law enforcement - state or federal - on the scene. So the scene is: a dozen farmers, willing to go to jail if that's what it comes down to, are blocking the entrance to the headgates with 50-60 supporters gathered around them. Some local farm groups have distanced themselves from the current situation because of "outside agitators". As a result, there is a chance these groups will lose control of the message. Further, if the groups that are supposed to stand up for the farmers don't show up tonite, they could lose the message entirely. If you can, please come to Klamath Falls and support these people. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: MY KIND OF PEOPLE......Thank you Lord.... (fwd] Date: 16 Jul 2001 10:18:25 -0700 BOB'S NOTE: Well, they haven't started shooting feds yet but they are giving the feds a taste of their own modus-operandi - at Mount Carmel (Waco) the feds shut off the water, telephone and electricity and then waged psychological warfare- at Roby, Illinois (Shirley Ann Allen) they shut off the water, gas, electricity and food. And now the GREAT folks of Klamath Falls are turning the tables........ Saturday the feds stayed in the cage with no food, no water, and no port-a-pottie. The feds did call for a port-a-pottie but was refused by the port-a-pottie people in short. All Saturday the people played America the Beautiful along with other similar music for the feds. The people also showed the feds political shows on a television connected to a vcr. all day Saturday. After spending a very uncompturable night all but, 2, of the feds left. On the other hand the remaining 7 feds had to leave the area to find food, drinks, and lodging as the business people of Klamath Falls, refused to serve them any of the above. Ladies and Gentlemen of Klamath Falls and area, I stand proudly at attention and render my finest hand-salute to you. (with a tears of joy in my eyes). You are my type of Americans. Starve the feds - turn your backs on the fed terrorists. Perhaps when things get worse than the are now, your patriotism and community spirit will turn to righteous anger and indignation and YOU WILL FIRE THE SECOND "SHOT HEARD ROUND THE WORLD". As you sit there with your symbolic propane pump running, ask yourself the important question "What are the feds doing in the Sovereign State of Oregon in the first place?" The Constitution of the United States of America spells out three, YES, ONLY THREE federal crimes; counterfeiting, treason and piracy. Of which are you folks suspected? None! you say. Then why even permit the feds in YOUR SOVEREIGN STATE. They only have jurisdiction in the 10 miles square of the District of Columbia and our possessions and territories. As my friend Reinhold says "Advance, They Will Flee".......... Please don't forget that the feds also shot and killed innocent citizens at Waco and Ruby Ridge and tried to kill Shirley Allen at Roby. Respectfully Submitted, Bob Worn, Major-USAF (Retired) 1811 Shamburger Road Pritchett, Texas 75645-2759 903-734-6970 Penny Jarvis wrote: Subject: Klamath Crisis Current Condition Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:51:42 -0700 From: Penny Jarvis To: Ron Wheeler The info that I am about to give you is from some friends that have been staying at the Klamath Canal Head Gates. I cannot verify this info as I was not there, but these people have never lied to me to the best of my knowledge. Friday evening the canal was opened. At 6: A.M. Saturday morning the 9 federal marshals appeared, at the head gates and shut the water off in the canal. Saturday the feds stayed in the cage with no food, no water, and no port-a-pottie. The feds did call for a port-a-pottie but was refused by the port-a-pottie people in short. All Saturday the people played America the Beautiful along with other similar music for the feds. The people also showed the feds political shows on a television connected to a vcr. all day Saturday. After spending a very uncompturable night all but, 2, of the feds left. The 2, remaining feds did move a camp trailer in onto the south side of the canal. The people are on the north side of the canal. Today Sunday the people put a pipe into the lake, and ran it to the canal. They are using a propane pump to pump the water into the canal through the pipe. The propane company, delivered some 100 gallons of propane to the people today to keep the pump going. So there is some water going into the canal tonight. The stores, and restraunts are donating food, and refreshments to the people. There is to be a large barberque tomarrow evening (Monday) at 6: P.M. everyone is invited. On the other hand the remaining 7 feds had to leave the area to find food, drinks, and lodging as the business people of Klamath Falls, refused to serve them any of the above. One of the McDonald managers was heard telling the feds that he had the right to refuse service to people that were against America. The feds quietly left with no food. One of the feds was reported stating that he could not believe that a whole community would ever come together like this against them. There is reported to be approx. 500 people at the head gates. People are reported to come from as far as Idaho, and Penn. to support the people of Klamath Falls, OR. It has also been reported that Michael Regan, Bill Watonburg, and some other radio people are to be at the head gates in support of the people. Klamath Falls, OR has and is making National News. We will not go away! If there is anyway that you can come and show yourself for support it would be greatly appreciated. Thank You Penny -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: EuroCops Want 7-Year Retention Of ALL Citizen Phone (fwd) Date: 16 Jul 2001 10:19:39 -0700 Here we go again. When the feds didn't have the legal power to set speed limits, they "convinced" the states to enforce limits the feds thought proper. Now they are going the other route. They are in cahoots with the European community to pass an international law the the US will have to comply. Whatever happened to the rights of the people to govern? Rich Martin Editor of Slick ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ EuroCops Want 7-Year Retention Of ALL Citizen Phone, Net Traffic By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco 5-19-1 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/19003.html The official EU body that represents the member governments will recommend the long-term retention of personal data at a meeting with the European Commission later this month, according to documents leaked to London-based civil liberties journal Statewatch. The Council of the European Union, which represents the 15 member governments, will discuss implementing a policy originally designed with the FBI six years ago. It calls for the retention of "every phone call, every mobile phone call, every fax, every e-mail, every website's contents, all internet usage, from anywhere, by everyone, to be recorded, archived and be accessible for at least seven years," notes the journal. The proposal gives law enforcement agencies powers far beyond authorised, approved interceptions. Existing provisions permit data to be retained for the length of the billing period, up to 90 days. The proposals are being rushed in front of the European Commission before the European Parliament can agree on a common privacy position in June. The Parliament is already working on personal privacy legislation, and bouncing the other two European institutions now is the Eurocops' best chance of putting their draconian provisions into place. Anonymity is bad for business Last November, the Council's Working Party on Police Co-operation put its case succinctly: "It is impossible for investigation services to know in advance which traffic data will prove useful in a criminal investigation. The only effective national legislative measure would therefore be to prohibit the erasure or anonymity of traffic data." The European Commission's Justice and Home Affairs Council will debate the proposal on May 28. The law enforcement agencies, argues the proposal, must have access to "user addresses, equipment identities, user name/passwords, port identities, mail addresses etc." The agencies are also to be provided with "the full name of the person (company), the residential address and credit card details." The Council's proposal takes its cue from UK law enforcement body NCIS (National Criminal Intelligence Service), which last year proposed that telcos and ISPs store data for one year for 'real-time monitoring' purposes, after which the data would be archived for seven more years in a gigantic new data warehouse. This paragraph in the NCIS document justifies the demands: "The Police Service is now in its third major era ... and is now a directed patrolling, proactive and reactive investigation service," notes the document. "The Crime and Disorder Act empowers ... the national law enforcement bodies in appropriate intrusive data collection in their central role. The lack of appropriate legislation on communications data retention does not sit happily with this strategic direction." [our emphasis] A gallery of baddies, ranging from organised crime to the authors of the Melissa and I Love You viruses, are evoked to justify the draconian new approach to Lauren Order. In the looking-glass world of law enforcement, the cops and spooks argue that long-term data retention actually boosts the public's faith in e-commerce: "The obligation for operators to erase and make traffic data anonymous, besides obstructing seriously crime investigations, also can lead to a decreasing confidence in, particularly, the electronic commerce..." according to the leaked document. The EU's own privacy watchdogs - regularly criticised for the opt-outs provided to law enforcement agencies - have condemned the move. The International Working Group on Data Protection in Telecommunications deems the storing of data on all telecommunications and Internet traffic for extended periods "disproportionate and therefore unacceptable." Even the Council's own documents accept that the cops' demands "would probably not be considered proportionate." Statewatch editor Tony Bunyan was officially refused the documents on the grounds that public oversight would "impede the efficiency of the ongoing deliberations". Statewatch has launched a new website SOS Europe with Privacy International to highlight the proposal. It contains full texts of the leaked deliberations here. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Agenda 21 - Contents (fwd) Date: 16 Jul 2001 11:23:58 -0700 Agenda 21 - ContentsHere it is. Agenda 21. See what it really says. And = read between the lines;^}=20 Enjoy! Your global government is here to help you! http://sedac.ciesin.org/pidb/texts/a21/a21-contents.html Steve M. p.s. no I haven't read it all, but I saw enough to see thru the flowery = language This data access service is provided by the Center for International = Earth Science Information Network (CIESIN), which operates the = Socioeconomic Data and Applications Center (SEDAC) for the U.S. National = Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA). ------- See the ENTRI thematic guide for more information about the = relationships between environmental treaties, national resource = indicators, and remotely sensed data.=20 ------- Disclaimer: ENTRI data providers make every effort to ensure the = accuracy, reliability, and completeness of the texts and other = information included in this collection; however, neither CIESIN nor the = ENTRI data providers verify or guarantee the accuracy, reliability, or = completeness of the contents of ENTRI. If you encounter an error, please = notify us by e-mail to entri@ciesin.org. ------- Distr. GENERAL A/CONF.151/26 (Vol. I-III) 12 August 1992 ORIGINAL: ENGLISH REPORT OF THE UNITED NATIONS CONFERENCE ON=20 ENVIRONMENT AND DEVELOPMENT (Rio de Janeiro, 3-14 June 1992) Annex II AGENDA 21 CONTENTS* Chapter Paragraphs = =20 1. Preamble .............................................. 1.1 - 1.6 SECTION I. SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC DIMENSIONS 2. International cooperation to accelerate sustainable development in developing countries and related domestic policies ..................................... 2.1 - 2.43 3. Combating poverty ..................................... 3.1 - 3.12 4. Changing consumption patterns ......................... 4.1 - 4.27 5. Demographic dynamics and sustainability ............... 5.1 - 5.66 6. Protecting and promoting human health conditions ...... 6.1 - 6.46 7. Promoting sustainable human settlement development .... 7.1 - 7.80 8. Integrating environment and development in=20 decision-making ....................................... 8.1 - 8.54 SECTION II. CONSERVATION AND MANAGEMENT OF RESOURCES FOR DEVELOPMENT 9. Protection of the atmosphere ....................... 9.1 - 9.35 10. Integrated approach to the planning and management=20 of land resources .................................. 10.1 - 10.18 11. Combating deforestation ............................ 11.1 - 11.40 12. Managing fragile ecosystems: combating desertification and drought ........................ 12.1 - 12.63 13. Managing fragile ecosystems: sustainable mountain development ........................................ 13.1 - 13.24 14. Promoting sustainable agriculture and rural development ........................................ 14.1 - 14.104 15. Conservation of biological diversity ............... 15.1 - 15.11 16. Environmentally sound management of biotechnology .. 16.1 - 16.46 17. Protection of the oceans, all kinds of seas, including enclosed and semi-enclosed seas, and coastal areas and the protection, rational use and development of their living resources .............. 17.1 - 17.136 18. Protection of the quality and supply of freshwater resources: application of integrated approaches to the development, management and use of water resources .......................................... 18.1 - 18.90 19. Environmentally sound management of toxic chemicals, including prevention of illegal international traffic in toxic and dangerous products ............ 19.1 - 19.76 20. Environmentally sound management of hazardous wastes, including prevention of illegal international traffic in hazardous wastes ................................. 20.1 - 20.46 21. Environmentally sound management of solid wastes and sewage-related issues ............................... 21.1 - 21.49 22. Safe and environmentally sound management of=20 radioactive wastes .................................. 22.1 - 22.9 SECTION III. STRENGTHENING THE ROLE OF MAJOR GROUPS 23. Preamble ............................................ 23.1 - 23.4 24. Global action for women towards sustainable and equitable development ........................... 24.1 - 24.12 25. Children and youth in sustainable development ....... 25.1 - 25.17 26. Recognizing and strengthening the role of indigenous people and their communities .................... 26.1 - 26.9 27. Strengthening the role of non-governmental organizations: partners for sustainable development ..................................... 27.1 - 27.13 28. Local authorities' initiatives in support of Agenda 21 ....................................... 28.1 - 28.7 29. Strengthening the role of workers and their trade unions .......................................... 29.1 - 29.14 30. Strengthening the role of business and industry ..... 30.1 - 30.30 31. Scientific and technological community .............. 31.1 - 31.12 32. Strengthening the role of farmers ................... 32.1 - 32.14 SECTION IV. MEANS OF IMPLEMENTATION 33. Financial resources and mechanisms .................. 33.1 - 33.21 34. Transfer of environmentally sound technology, cooperation and capacity-building ................... 34.1 - 34.29 35. Science for sustainable development ................. 35.1 - 35.25 36. Promoting education, public awareness and training .. 36.1 - 36.27 37. National mechanisms and international cooperation for capacity-building in developing countries ....... 37.1 - 37.13 38. International institutional arrangements ............ 38.1 - 38.45 39. International legal instruments and mechanisms ...... 39.1 - 39.10 40. Information for decision-making ..................... 40.1 - 40.30 * * * * * * For section I (Social and economic dimensions), see A/CONF.151/26 (Vol. I); for section III (Strengthening the role of major groups) and section IV (Means of implementation), see A.CONF/151/26 (Vol. III). * For section II (Conservation and management of resources for development), see A/CONF.151/26 (Vol. II); for section III = (Strengthening the role of major groups) and section IV (Means of implementation), see A/CONF.151/26 (Vol. III). * For section I (Social and economic dimensions), see A/CONF.151/26 (Vol. I); for section II (Conservation and management of resources for development), see A/CONF.151/26 (Vol. II). END OF DOCUMENT -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: ABC CCW Gun poll - VOTE! (fwd) Date: 16 Jul 2001 11:25:01 -0700 FYI - Go to it before it disappears. Currently we are ahead 66% to 33% ... Vote on the on-line poll at abcnews.com Notice that the poll uses the term "hidden" instead of "concealed." The bias never ends. Poll listed in right hand column under VOTE http://abcnews.go.com/ (For newcomers: Polls like this are not scientific, because they are not based on a random sampling of voters. But we forward the link because if our side loses, the poll will be used against us. When we win, we never hear about the poll again.) -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Check this out! (fwd) Date: 16 Jul 2001 22:04:45 -0700 Hey my amigos and friends, this is worth doing! You don't even have to lock and load, pack your gear, or get cold and wet or hot and wet. :) Just take a few minutes, read the petition. if you think it's worth doing then get to it and maybe the the small piece freedom you help save will be your own. Huck MacWilliams Yes, I signed it! 9 thousand somethin or other. We should hit ten K tonight. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 4:09 PM > I *highly* recommend people to visit this website, then go and sign the > petition. > I signed it less than 30 minutes ago. I was number 9380, and they're > already up to > 9447 signatures! That's more than 2 signatures per minute. This is a good > cause. > If you don't want to disclose your identity, at least please call a friend > and have them > sign it. > > To get to the petition website directly, it's located at > http://www.petitiononline.com/klamath/petition.html > Please help us all -- especially those poor farmers out in Klamath, Oregon by > standing up and signing the petition. > Eric > > At 01:02 PM 7/16/01 -0400, you wrote: > > > >Thought you might like to see Henrietta's latest column. > > > >Henrietta > > > >For subscription info, go to: > >http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/piml > > > >For real-time chat, go to: > >http://www.egroups.com/chat/piml -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Latest Fed attrocity Date: 17 Jul 2001 11:33:47 -0700 A year or two ago, most of us were sorrowed to hear that Roy Rogers, "King of the Cowboys", had died. I was just informed that his wife, Dale Evans, passed away a couple weeks ago. Well guess what? The Feds want $220,000 or they're going to close Roy's museum down. When Trigger, Roy's companion for over 30 years, died, Roy couldn't bear to part with him, and so had him stuffed, and put on display. Among other things, the Feds claim his value has increased by a couple hundred percent, and thus they want tax for him, a horse they never bought, fed, trained, lived with, or loved. Talk about dog robbers. More at www.michaelmedved.com and no doubt other places. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! ----- End forwarded message ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: the gun lobby needs a gun lobby (fwd) Date: 18 Jul 2001 01:48:42 -0700 [libertyics] 2A: The Gun Lobby Needs a Gun Lobby By Nancy Johnson=20 07.12.01 >After watching the sell outs by the NRA I concur with what Nancy Johnson >has to say here. There is an old saying that behind every successful ma= n >you will find a WOMAN. Maybe it is time for the women to step forward a= s >too many men have failed to stand up. Stand UP or step aside and let us >get the job done! >Jackie Juntti >WGEN idzrus@earthlink.net > >http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/jul/12/ednlj071201.htm > >The Gun Lobby Needs a Gun Lobby By Nancy Johnson 07.12.01 > > >While on a recent radio show, J.J. Johnson was asked, "what does the Gu= n >Lobby need to do to save the Second Amendment". His answer: "The Gun Lo= bby >needs a Gun Lobby". Since the Nation Rifle Association is the largest >organization with over 4 million members, if there is a gun debate in th= e >Major Media, the NRA gets the phone call. It's time to change that. > > >There are over 80 million gun owners. And many pro-gun activist feel th= e >NRA is not, and cannot be the organization to vigorously fight the battl= e >as it's needed, for fear of getting attacked for being too "extreme". T= he >fact is, the NRA could not respond with an effective campaign against th= e >Million Mom March. This is one of several reasons that, with all due >respect to the NRA, many including myself feel a change of the guard is=20 needed. > > >The Second Amendment Sisters began in 2000 as a counter demonstration to >the Million Moms March. The Million Moms was (and is) a disaster. They >know it and we know it, no matter what the government-controlled media h= as >to say. >On their first anniversary, "Million Moms" tried once more to buy a big >demo. Second Amendment Sisters put more people on the ground in several >western cities. Even where they managed to attract a few hundred, as th= ey >did in Sacramento, it was obvious from the dozens of unopened boxes of >T-shirts that they had hoped for more. > > >The Second Amendment Sisters is ideally positioned to be the leading >Pro-Gun group in the country. There are many fine groups -- Gun Owners = of >America, RightToKeepandBearArms.com, Second Amendment Foundation, Jews f= or >the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. The problem is (sorry, I gotta = be >blunt) that white males run them and speak for them. What too many gun >activists fail to see is that the political landscape determines the rul= es >of engagement for battle. > > >No one wants to have a debate and openly tell a woman they can't defend >themselves. SAS is about women. And if sex sells, then it's time to pu= t >some attractive women (especially mothers and even grandmothers) in the >forefront on the Second Amendment fight. > > >What many believe is the leading defender of the Second Amendment, the >National Rifle Association, supports Project Exile and now focuses on >hunters rights. Unfortunately, the NRA has followed what appears to be = the >inevitable course of a large and aging organization. It exists to promo= te >the organization rather than its goals. This is a natural result of >dedicated volunteers, who become staff and then find their careers >completely dependent on maintaining the donor base. The NRA is not alon= e; >I have seen the same trend in my own political party. > > >The NRA did nothing about the recent problems with K-Mart. >K-Mart announced that due to pressure from anti-gun groups, it was stopp= ing >sales of certain types of ammunition. >The NRA did nothing. But grass roots action forced K-Mart to dump Rosie >O'Donnell. > > >It is very hard to support the position that a woman should just take a >chance that she will be raped. Or robbed. Or see her children >molested. A woman is a perfect Poster Child for Second Amendment >rights. Maybe she is a single mother, maybe a waitress who comes home a= t >two in the morning. >Maybe she is the victim of domestic violence. The bottom line is that i= t >is a lot harder to attack a woman who wants to defend herself. > > >A woman with a gun is sexy. Look at the posters for movies of those bux= om >and muscular women holding serious hardware. It turns men on. There ar= e >also a lot of men who will not even consider romantic involvement with a= n >anti-gun woman, due in part to Lautenberg Amendment. Stories of a gun >grabbing partner calling the BATF and reporting her man's guns after a >domestic squabble and reports of domestic violence when there was none a= re >becoming common. This phenomenon will only increase as the gun grabbing >gets fiercer. More and more women who are for more gun control will fin= d >fewer and fewer men who will even consider a long-term relationship with= =20 them. > > >The NRA has a good program for younger folks called the Eddie Eagle >Program. Perhaps it's time for the our "Sisters" to start the "Annie >Oakley Club" =E2=80=93 dedicated to teaching young girls about firearms = and >firearms safety. The SAS can only improve its image by gathering sponso= rs >for Women's marksmanship competitions. > > >We, the Second Amendment Sisters, need to be as vigorous as the Pro-Choi= ce, >animal rights groups and the NEA. We need to get a letter or a protest >going about any infringement whatsoever of our Second Amendment rights, >just like they did with abortion, testing animals, or private education >respectively. Some of the positions taken by Pro-Choice did not make >sense, like supporting late term abortions. There were very few of them >and accepting this just gave fodder to the other side. Now it's time fo= r >SAS to do the same -- trigger locks, the California laws -- all must be >fought. > > >There is a great grass roots explosion of pro-gun sentiment. >The grass roots efforts shut down the recent UN Summit on gun control, w= ith >no help from the NRA. There were so many letters (I don't believe the >number "100" that they released) that they called in extra >security. Several congressmen and bureaucrats, including John Ashcroft, >went to the UN and defended the Second Amendment. > > >Where was the NRA? > > >Second Amendment Brothers: Hold the door open for us, please. We have a >vacuum in leadership at the top of the pro-gun movement. Lets make the >40,000 Moms and the rest of the anti-gun crowd sorry they ever got us=20 started. --=20 --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! --- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: PARAGON FOUNDATION ALERT: SHOUTING THE BATTLECRY OF FREEDOM LIVE KLAMATH TALK SHOWS beginning July 20 (fwd) Date: 18 Jul 2001 22:22:12 -0700 Lots of good contact info here. This one seems to have the hallmarks of being the spark that might inflame the naton..... LIVE KLAMATH TALK SHOWS BEGINNING July 20 To the Paragon List: Please forward widely Good Morning Friends of Liberty,, First, may I apologize to all, for the emails I have not answered. I just returned from St. Louis MO, and became immediately involved in the Klamath dilemma to the exclusion of all other activities. I am firmly convinced that the outcome of that crisis will affect every person reading this email. Simply, The Klamath is ground-zero for rural America. I am packing now to fly to Oregon and stand with the Klamath Basin Farmers as yet another major chapter of that battle for our rights unfolds. We are all needed and I pray that you may join me there. (Please hold all emails and phone calls to me until further notice. If Urgent, please contact me through he Paragon Foundation at 1-877-847-3443) A recent email from the Klamath farmers states, "We need to be quick about raising awareness and getting more people over to Klamath ... the excavating that may start today or tomorrow is likely to create another "scene" with the Feds. When they figure out that the farmers are intent on something more than symbolism, there will be court orders and more Federal LEOs generated. If you cannot come to the Klamath, you can do your part by accomplishing all or part of the following: 1. PRAY HARD !! 2. AIR YOUR VIEWS ON LIVE KLAMATH TALK SHOWS July 20 Michael Reagan Show. On Friday July 20, Flood the Michael Reagan show at 1-800-468-6453 4:00 to 7:00 PM Pacific Time with calls. Mike's program Director says they will welcome. July 21 Barbara Simpson Show July 21 KSFO San Francisco 6:00 PM Pacific Time, Listener call in Numbers (415), or (510), or (408) or (707) 808-5600. 22 July The Edge: 7:00 AM Pacific, Z600 Radio The Number One Radio Station in Montana. Wants out of state calls: Public Call in (406) 752-2600 Listen to the show on the internet at http://www.z600.com/ July 23 The Woody Woodland Show WGIR, WGIP, WGIN, Number one rated Talk Show in New Hampshire will air a live Klamath Show 10 to 11 AM Eastern time but does not want out of state phone calls. 23 July Derry Brownfield Show 23 July, Call the Derry Brownfield Show : 10 to 11 am Central Time Listen Live at http://www.derrybrownfield.com/ Listener call in Line 1-800-973-3779 July 23 The American Sovereign July 23, 3:15 Pacific Time The American Sovereign (National Show) Call Listener call in Line (888) 385-3733 July 23 Brian Wilson Show: Call Brian Wilson KSFO San Francisco 8:00 PM Pacific Time July 23, Listener call in Lines 415), or (510), or (408) or (707) 808-5600 July 24 Radio Free New Hampshire Annie Conceison, will Air a live Klamath Show 4 to 5 PM Eastern Time at but does not want phone out of state phone calls July 24 Alabama Al Talk Show WXBK, Alabama 6:00 AM, Pacific Time , , No calls please 3. TELEPHONE AND FAX: IMMEDIATELY CONTACT: David Thomas Westren Represenative for the White House 202-456-7944 Office 202-309-1358 Cell Oregon Governor John Kitzhaber at (503) 378-4582 fax: (503) 378-4863. President Bush at (202) 456-1414 fax: (202) 456-2461. Ask that they do everything in their power to help the Klamath Farmers 4. SIGN THE ON LINE PETITION at; http://www.petitiononline.com/klamath/ 5. BATTLES LIKE THIS COST MONEY SO SEND URGENTLY NEEDED FUNDS TO ONE OF THE BELOW: Frontiers of Freedom- People for the USA Funds As per the Pacific Regional Director 3 funds, chose one or all, Earmark in the memo portion of check, ( tax deductible ) Headgate Fund: will pay for fuel for the pump, may also be used to support other expenses incurred by the people at the Headgates, as they come up and are needed and are peaceful .... Family Relief Fund: This fund will be used to help purchase food, and other relief needs for the victims ( there are hungry children ) families in the basin, that are ) This money will be distributed to do the most good. Web Site Fund: this fund will be used to support this web site, that currently is not funded. Web site is also acting as new service to the country's media, issuing press releases. Many improvements and continued service to the community will be possible with some funding. FOF-PFUSA P.O. Box 28 Merrill, OR 97633 Klamath Irrigation District- Defense Fund, non profit status, tax ID # available Mail or drop off Klamath Irrigation District 6640 KID Lane Klamath Falls, OR 97603 (541) 882-6661 Fax (541) 882-4004 kidhq@cdsnet.net Klamath Water Users Association You can Earmark for: Website ( klamathbasincrisis.org ) or general fund 2455 Patterson Street, Suite 3 Klamath Falls, OR 97603 541-883-6100 kwua@cdsnet.net Tulelake Growers Association "We support the peaceful activities at the Headgates" established in 1943, TGA serves the Whole Basin Basin Checks made out to TGA-Environmental Account This Account established in 1992 to address and publicize environmental issues and how they effect farmers in the Klamath Basin, and help finance activities that promote the farmers cause. ( they put all they could into the Bucket Brigade for example ) They are also accepting new memberships ( nationwide) more details to come Tulelake Growers Association PO Box 338 ( or 356 Main Street ) Tulelake, CA 96134 Cointact Deb Crisp at 530- 667- 5214 ... 9:00 to 5:00 pacific time Any Questions Contact: Klamath Water Users Association 2455 Patterson Street, Suite 3 Klamath Falls, OR 97603 541-883-6100 Need More Information: www.klamathbasincrisis.org Need to Reach me? Call The Paragon Foundation at 1-877-847-3443. PLEASE HOLD ALL EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS TO MY OFFICE NUMBER In Freedom, Jay -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Dr Brown: Still A Nation Of Cowards. (fwd) Date: 18 Jul 2001 22:23:04 -0700 -------- Original Message -------- Reply-To: rkba2001@home.com Hi Friends, Here is my latest article. Feel free to use it in any way you like. Hope you enjoy it. Take Care, Mike Brown Vancouver, WA Still a Nation of Cowards "A Nation of Cowards" was first published in 1993 as an essay in a journal called "The Public Interest". In a previous column, I said that I considered it the greatest document of the American gun rights debate. Now the author, Jeff Snyder, has published a book that will be mandatory reading for those who enjoyed the original essay. It is titled "Nation of Cowards" and is available from Accurate Press (1-800-374-4049). The new book includes the namesake essay and many more that examine the ethical and moral roots of the right to keep and bear arms. Snyder is a New York attorney who moonlights as a Constitutional Libertarian writer. His numerous articles have appeared in news- papers, gun magazines and policy journals. Most participants in the gun debate prefer to discuss statistics, practicalities and outcomes of various gun control plans. Snyder rejects this entire line of utilitarian reasoning and makes his stand upon the most basic principles of human rights. He is a master at pointing out the logical and ethical fallacies inherent in the concept of gun control. Here are some of his ideas, as I see them, and greatly condensed for this article. Let's consider laws that declare schools or churches to be gun-free zones. If one thinks that such pre-emptive laws are effective, then it would be even more effective to simply declare all human bodies to be bullet-free zones. This would be ridiculous of course, yet it would probably appeal to politicians who value symbolism and emotion over logic. The unspoken objective of pre-emptive laws is to reduce the need for self-restraint and personal responsibility. If people do not have the means to harm each other, it is no longer important for them to control their tempers or act politely. We are asking the government to protect us from ourselves so that we can be freed from that responsibility. This might seem like a logical plan, especially to lazy slackers who aren't willing to assume the basic duties of a free person. One flaw in the logic is that laws themselves do not prevent crime. Laws work when most individuals choose to respect the law and exercise self-restraint. Unfortunately, the violent people we fear are lacking in those basic virtues. That is why pre-emptive laws are ineffective. They are nothing more than a political tool to satisfy the emotional needs of the electorate and they have a corrosive effect on personal values. Snyder addresses the current plague of zero tolerance rules in schools by comparing them to the ancient custom of human sacrifice. Even though it makes no sense to punish a student for a harmless act, they must suffer for the good of the entire group. Sadly, we are teaching our youth that ethical and moral behavior is secondary to obeying every rule, no matter how silly or onerous. There is little incentive to teach independent thinking or a sense of personal honor when so many aspects of daily life are prescribed by law. Many influential groups now say that citizens should not resist criminal attack. People are told that it isn't worth taking a risk to defend their dignity or even their life. Better to beg for humane treatment from violent criminals than to take respons- ibility for one's own defense. On the other hand, it is acceptable to rely on armed police officers to shoulder our risks and do the dirty work in exchange for the meager salaries we are willing to pay. Snyder does not spare those on the pro-gun side (like me) who use utilitarian arguments to argue for privileges that the Founders declared to be inalienable human rights independent of government or public approval. If we argue that gun ownership is good for society simply because it inhibits crime, we are implicitly admitting that our right to keep and bear arms is dependent upon provable benefits. Gun rights activists should also heed Snyder's warning that guns alone do not fight crime or resist tyranny. It takes committed individuals to do that. Some patriotic citizens feel all is well as long as we have our guns, but the electorate is being lulled into a sense of security by economic prosperity and the constant promotion of big government as the means to relieve ourselves of tiresome responsibilities. As we all know, rights and responsibilities go together. Some day we may awaken to find that many of our basic rights have been given away and it is too late to recover them, even through armed struggle. "Nation of Cowards" contains far too many good points to list them all here. If you are interested in the gun debate you must read it for yourself. It's possible that the intellectual tone and language may be challenging for some readers. "Nation of Cowards" would really excel as required reading material for college courses in ethics, sociology, criminology or government. If it were up to me, every college student would be expected to read it and write a lengthy report demonstrating his or her understanding of the material. But considering the current climate of mindless political correctness in higher education, I won't hold my breath. Dr. Michael S. Brown is an optometrist and board member of Doctors for Sensible Gun Laws - www.dsgl.org -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Forwarded news from Down Under... (fwd) Date: 19 Jul 2001 21:18:50 -0700 >Ed Chenel, a police officer in Australia asked that this be put on a >Email list and passed on to Americans.........Ed is a good friend. > >Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real figures from >Down Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia >were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to >be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia >taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. > >The first year results are now in: Australia-wide, homicides are up >3.2 percent, Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; >Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent!) >In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up >300 percent. (Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them >in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!) >While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in >armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in >the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that >their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in >break-ins and assaults of the elderly. Australian politicians are >at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such >monumental effort and expense was expended in "successfully ridding >Australian society of guns." > >You won't see this data on the American evening news or hear your >governor or members of the state Assembly disseminating this >information. The Australian experience proves it. Guns in the hands >of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control >laws affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note Americans, >before it's to late! > >PLEASE FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST! Note: And the United Nations wants ever more disarmament? -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Fiedor Report on the News (fwd) Date: 21 Jul 2001 19:44:40 -0700 Fiedor Report on the News A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia July 22, 2001 #237 by: Doug Fiedor dfiedor@home.com Previous Editions at: http://209.15.142.23/reports/headsup/list-hu.htm LAWBREAKERS GET A FREE PASS John Ashcroft lost his Senate seat because of blatant voter fraud. Dubya also almost lost the election due to wide spread voter fraud. So, one would expect that now that Bush is President and Ashcroft is Attorney General, voter fraud would be receiving close scrutiny. It's the same with all the campaign finance illegalities. There is good evidence -- plenty good enough to convict me if I did any of that -- that the Democratic Party took many millions of dollars illegally. Furthermore, unions and other far left groups spent many more millions of dollars in unreported funds as "walking around money" for the Gore campaign. That also deserves a major investigation. At least 25 House members and 10 Senators have major irregularities in their campaigns finances. Also, it is a big joke around Washington that the only thing separating an out and out bribe from a "gift" is who is giving and who is receiving. No matter how the law reads, just about anything goes on Capitol Hill. We're over six months into a new administration now. Still, no one is looking into any of these problems. Many of the lobbyist groups are still receiving plenty of foreign money to pass around Capitol Hill. Even the Chinese communists caught on and bought themselves some big name lobbyists to launder their bribes and/or campaign donations. A new broom is supposed to sweep clean. Yet, many of the very same people who caused all the problems during the Clinton Administration are still holding government positions and are still funneling money and services to the far-left groups sponsoring socialism. Instead of investigations, the "Compassionate Conservative" administration decided to completely disregard all the lawbreakers and "move forward." Now we learn that the Bush Administration is considering a grant of amnesty for the millions of illegal Mexicans who have sneaked into the United States and taken up residence. These are obvious lawbreakers, one and all. According to Ari Fleischer last week, the amnesty plan is part of a package of agreements being developed by U.S. and Mexican officials concerning Mexican immigration. Total amnesty and the guest-worker program are both being pushed by Mexican President Vicente Fox. It appears that the Fox Administration is cavorting with communist China on one hand and encouraging his people to sneak over here on the other. Either way, this is bad news for the citizens of the United States. If it gets any worse, we'll be moving Fox's name all the way over to the far left column, just under Castro's. The administration uses the need for cheap labor as an excuse to validate violation of the law. Let's see if we can keep this straight now: Laws are passed that apply to the general population of the country. Government officials and their paying friends, however, do not necessarily need to obey all laws. After all, they trade big bucks and favors -- can't impede that. Ditto for the foreigners laundering hundreds of millions through lobbyists every year. And, of course, some moneyed consortiums need the cheap labor the illegal Mexicans provide. So, they will get a pass, too. Is that how it works now? If there's a dollar or two in it for someone, violation of the law is approved? Apparently that may not be exactly true either. It is only acceptable to violate federal law when there is money in it for public officials. Normal American citizens, those who have nothing to do with politics, still have to obey all laws. Well . . . except for somewhere between three and fifteen-million illegal Mexicans, that is. They apparently get a free pass for one breach of federal law. Therefore, it is my contention that, in order for this to be fair, each and every taxpayer in the country should now petition our Compassionate Conservative President for a waver of one felony offense. After all, if millions of known lawbreakers are getting a free pass, it certainly should be no problem for the Compassionate One to grant those of us who pay the bills for this country one free felony. If you haven't violated a law yet, that's fine. Just collect the chit and hold it until you get caught for something. Then, pass it over to the nice officer and that will be that. Simple. Because, if only some get to violate our law at will, that tells me there really is no law. Just selective tyranny. Anyone else think we need a "Constitutional Conservative" at the helm, rather than a "Compassionate Conservative"? UN AND MEDIA SPIN ON GUNS The anti-Bill of Rights gun-grabbers over at the New York Times were incensed on July 12 about the Bush Administration's position at the United Nations anti-small arms conference: "The Bush administration might as well have sent Charlton Heston, president of the National Rifle Association, to deliver its opening address to a United Nations conference on small arms this week. In a shameless subordination of diplomacy to domestic political pandering, John R. Bolton, the undersecretary of state for arms control and international security, told the gathering that Washington would not support an agreement to curb the international flow of illicit small arms if it infringed on the right of Americans to bear arms." The Clinton administration socialists were major players in that world-wide "Third Way" conspiracy. This Bush Administration does not seem to be very interested in any of that. The New York Times, of course, supports Clinton -- and therefore appears nearly ready to began an editorial jihad against the Bush Administration. They write: "The draft documents before the conference would not infringe on gun ownership in the United States, and in any case the conference's plan of action will not be legally binding on any nation. The conference is not about taking guns away from Americans, but about preventing guns from reaching the world's dictators and warlords." Now . . . one thing we know for sure about the folks over at the New York Times is that they have some very good writers -- and, hence, people who are also very good readers. Their first paragraph above is clearly their opinion. That's fair. We all have opinions. The second quotation, however, presents a real problem on this end because it is presented as fact. Yet, it is only slightly true. For instance, one UN paper, "Removing Military Weapons From Civilian Hands,"(1) presents all sorts of proposals that, if implemented, would adversely impact on the Constitutionally protected rights of the American people. In this proposal, as in much of what the United Nations does, the basic premise may have some validity, but the devil is in the details. For instance, who gets to define what a "military" weapon is? Silly question, eh? They do, of course. They start out by proposing an international ban on trafficking in the type of automatic rifles preferred by many modern armies. Then, buried in the text, add in semi-automatic guns. Of course, that would include most hunting rifles and modern handguns. One of the excuses the UN uses for calling for the world-wide ban on guns in civilian hands is that they "make conflict resolution even more difficult." Well, of course they do! For instance, the people in the Warsaw Ghetto had just ten guns with which to hold off the Nazi cowards. Were many of them armed with quality weapons, some of them may still be alive today. Ditto for a few million people under Stalin and Mao. But, that seems to be exactly one of the reasons the UN wants guns out of the hands of civilians: "They can be kept by civilians and used for protection in the absence of state law and order." My personal favorite UN excuse for the ban on civilian firearms comes on page five: "they make it harder for the State to regain the legitimate monopoly of force." Isn't that exactly the point? Guns are the people's means of making the government behave. When the people are well armed, bureaucrats will act properly because they know their lives could depend on it. When the people are unarmed and fear the government, the door is open for tyranny. Yet, the UN suggests that all world governments and Non-Government Organizations work "for the collective good" to get guns out of the hands of civilians. One suggestion for the anti-gun campaign is to frame it in a way that "would be hard for the anti-control lobby to argue against such an initiative -- after all who could easily justify the right for civilians to bear arms for military purposes and thus argue taking automatic and semi-automatic weapons off the streets of cities and out of schools." Their other suggestion is to limit ammunition. Actually, they even call for the "monitoring" and limiting of ammunition supplies. However, that does not yet concern civilians. So, when the New York Times editorializes that: "The conference is not about taking guns away from Americans, but about preventing guns from reaching the world's dictators and warlords," that is obviously not the truth. 1. http://www.unog.ch/UNIDIR/discus-1.htm GOOD NEWS FOR CONSERVATIVES Not all news is bad news. Especially now, since that proverbial political pendulum is about to hit the peg on the far left and take a sharp bounce towards center. This is the time that all those conservatives working hard in the background for the past decade or more start realizing their just rewards. That eight year, $250-million contract Rush Limbaugh signed last week is, of course, rather noteworthy. Rush now makes more than all the liberal network newsreaders combined. In a major sign of the times -- and a mix of Rush's common sense brand of conservatism and gift of gab -- while the liberal network news shows are all losing their audience, the Rush Limbaugh show is steadily gaining. We might snicker, from time to time, when we see that the liberal broadcast media and printed press outlets have lost much of the support of the American people. But really, there are mixed emotions about that on this end. Whereas we have been warning for many years that the liberal media is about to crash as a business concern, they didn't believe it. Now that it's happening -- belt tightening and lay-offs are media wide -- we find it to be a very sad situation. But, now comes the shake-out. Most liberal media outlets blame a loss of "dot.com" advertising and other such nonsense for their loss of income. Don't believe that. The one true fact is that they are losing their audience. Their far-left bias has alienated at least 60% of the American people able to read and speak English. Meanwhile, conservative establishment media like The Washington Times(1) and its sister publication Insight Magazine(2), The New York Post(3), and FOX News(4) have soared forward to fill the void. Internet publications like The Drudge Report(5), WorldNetDaily(6), OpinioNet(7), NewsMax(8), and Capitol Hill Blue(9) have also become very popular. The Wall Street Journal even offers most of its editorial page free to surfers on the Internet as "OpinionJournal"(10). The most interesting news over at the Wall Street Journal is that their ever popular (even though he hasn't ran any of my stuff in recent decades!) editorial page editor, Robert Bartley, is retiring. Certainly, conservatives are going to miss that guy. For the past 30 years, Robert Bartley has been like a bright laser beam slicing through the fog of liberalism. And, talk about honesty in reporting: In a very memorable op-ed while filling the space for contributing editor Al Hunt, Bartley actually admitted that Hunt was their resident socialist. Robert Bartley will most definitely be missed when he retires next year. On the other hand, it appears that he helped make yet another in a long series of great decisions by tapping Pulitzer Prize winner Paul Gigot as his successor. They have a number of excellent people to chose from, but Gigot is a great choice. The problem is, who will take Paul Gigot's Washington beat? Those will be difficult shoes to fill. Many reporters and editors from most news organizations have something in common with this scribbler and upwards to 100,000 other Americans. Once or twice a day they wander over to the Free Republic web site to scan the articles chosen by readers to post and comment on. Take it from someone who is on both sides of that deal, editors and reporters have an avid interest in reading what the general public thinks of their reporting -- or to see if their reporting will even be of enough interest to get posted on Free Republic. Many left-wing journalists have gone into a major funk after reading the critique of their "reporting" by a couple dozen perceptive article readers on Free Republic. Two major liberal newspapers -- who can give criticism but obviously cannot take it -- have actually taken Jim Robinson, the owner and operator of Free Republic, to court and directed him to prevent the site's visitors from posting their newspapers' articles for comment. The visitors stopped, sort of. But, in truth, that legal action made the LA Times and Washington Post newspapers look like total asses in the media industry -- as well as to many thousands of us on the World Wide Web. The non-commercial Free Republic has become the modern day Liberty Tree for thousands of conservative Americans and various citizen's groups. Over the last couple years, members have organized into State chapters and a couple associated national groups. All of these groups are very active and some have themselves (rightfully so) become newsworthy recently. So it was with great pleasure that we learned that Jim Robinson was contacted by Paul Haughton, President of the National Federation of Republican Assemblies -- a group dedicated to promoting "conservatism in the tradition of the Founding Fathers" -- two weeks ago(13). "It is a great honor to notify you that you have been selected by the Board of Directors of the National Federation of Republican Assemblies to receive this year's Ronald Reagan Freedom Award," Haughton wrote to Jim Robinson. The national convention will begin on August 24th in Dallas/Fort Worth. Previous recipients of the Ronald Reagan Freedom Award include great Americans like Congressman Bob Barr and former FBI agent Gary Aldrich. Our hardy Congratulations go to well deserving Jim Robinson -- and all the Freepers. Really, this could not happen to a nicer, more well deserving guy! When they start a ledger of Constitutional Conservatives who are making a real difference in today's society, there will be quite a few people from Free Republic right up at the top of the list and Jim Robinson started it all by providing the electronic meeting place. From picketing the Vice President's mansion last winter to admonish Gore to "Get out of Cheney's house" to helping the Bush team counter the mess the Gore Democrats made of the election in Florida; from joining in support of the farmers harmed by the environmentalist whackos in Klamath to picketing Condit's (D-CA) office; from the hundreds of folks joined together to fight liberal bias in the media to the volumes of historically valuable documentation "Alamo Girl" compiled verifying Clinton administration wrongdoing; these are the folks at Free Republic, working to insure that our grandchildren enjoy the freedom and Liberty intended by the Founding Fathers through our Constitution. It is, therefore, no surprise that so many Americans, in and out of the media business, make the Free Republic web site a major part of their daily information source. All conservatives should check it out. 1. http://www.washtimes.com 2. http://www.insightmag.com 3. http://www.nypostonline.com 4. http://www.foxnews.com 5. http://www.drudgereport.com 6. http://www.worldnetdaily.com 7. http://www.opinionet.com 8. http://www.newsmax.com 9. http://www.capitolhillblue.com 10. http://www.opinionjournal.com 11. http://www.freerepublic.com/home.htm 12. http://www.nf-ra.org 13. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b4b5546663e.htm ~ End ~ -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: VIN -- communists (fwd) Date: 22 Jul 2001 07:49:37 -0700 FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz I must be paranoid; I still believe in communists Last month, Clark County finally caved in to union pressure and ended its system of merit raises. The bosses of Nevada's teachers unions have long wailed and ululated against any similar proposal to differentiate by awarding pay raises based on "merit" among their own number ... after all, this would allow school principals and other administrators to show "favoritism." It was in this context that I received the galley proofs of the new paperback book, "Communism: A Brief History," by Richard Pipes, Baird Research Professor of History at Harvard University. I thumbed through this slim volume, stumbling on a telling paragraph about a noted world leader who confronted similar proposals in 1931, when he was trying to get the factories running and his nation out of a serious economic depression. "In 1931," Professor Pipes writes of this noted economic and political visionary, "he assailed the principle of 'egalitarianism,' which called for workers to be paid identical wages regardless of competence, as an 'ultra-left' notion. It meant, he went on the explain, that the unqualified worker had no incentive to acquire skills, while the skilled worker moved from job to job until he found ones where his talents were properly rewarded; both hurt productivity. Accordingly, the new wage scale drew great distinctions between the least and most skilled workers." Who was this enemy of worker solidarity, this promoter of dog-eat-dog competition who stood so far to the right of the enlightened leaders of today's Clark County public employee unions? Joseph Stalin. Professor Pipes, who reminds us in his preface that "No clear distinction can be drawn between 'socialism' and 'communism' " ... in other words, that the collectivist politics of Charles Schumer and Dianne Feinstein and Shelley Berkley will lead inevitably to the same results gained by Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot, no matter how winding or flower-strewn the path ... finds that "Just as the Holocaust expressed the quintessential nature of National Socialism, so did the Khmer Rouge rule in Cambodia (1975-78) represent the purest embodiment of Communism: what it turns into when pushed to its logical conclusion. ... "The leaders of the Khmer Rouge received their higher education in Paris," the good professor notes, "where they absorbed Rousseau's vision of 'natural man,' as well as the exhortations of Frantz Fanon and Jean-Paul Sartre to violence in the struggle against colonialism." When Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge threw out the American puppet Lon Nol in 1975 and took over the nation's capital Phnom Penh, "The carnage began," Professor Pipes reports. "Unlike Mao ... Pol Pot did not waste time on 'reeducation' but proceeded directly to extermination, by category, of ... all civilian and military employees of the old regime, former landowners, teachers, merchants, Buddhist monks, and even skilled workers. ... The executions involved entire families, including small children. ..." Collectivism breeds such immorality -- and can't stand close observation by those who reject euphemisms and stubbornly insist on calling things by their proper names -- because it rests on the foundation of armed robbery, no matter how intricately disguised. Fail to pay your school taxes or your redistributionist "income tax," and eventually armed men will set your belongings on the sidewalk and auction off your house. What elected official in America today (possibly excepting Ron Paul of Texas) hesitates to gleefully spend the proceeds of the redistributionist income tax? They have thus embraced both the principles and the methods of the Bolesheviks. Yet neither the elected thieves nor the beneficiaries of such redistributionist (that is to say, communist) schemes face any social disapproval for "stealing our stuff." No, they're merely "receiving their entitlements"; it is WE who are loathed as selfish, anti-social deviants if we endeavor to keep some larger share of what we earn to feed and clothe our own families, shouted down for "hate speech" if we call their theft ring by its proper name. In only 44 months, Pol Pot managed to reduce the population of the country from 7.3 million to 5.8 million, eliminating nearly a fifth of a nation's population. And it was all done in strict adherence to the doctrines they'd been taught by the most respected Leftist intellectuals of the universities of Paris, who to this day are still required reading (in translation, of course, language skills having long since been abandoned as undemocratic, elitist and unnecessary) in the most prestigious American universities. "It may be noted that there were no demonstrations anywhere in the world against these outrages and the United Nations passed no resolutions condemning them," Professor Pipes notes. "The world took them in stride, presumably because they were committed in what was heralded as a noble cause." Finally, the bloodstained geriatrics who run Red China, taking time out from beating to death more imprisoned Christians and Tibetan nuns, sponsored a concert last month in Beijing's "Forbidden City," featuring those world-class yawners the "Three Tenors." The concert was meant to promote Beijing's desire to host the 2008 Olympics, by showing what a civilized place it is. But a protester showed up. American photographer Stephen Shaver, there on behalf of Agence France-Presse, photographed the protester. So Beijing police knocked Shaver down, dragged him along the ground, and hit him in the head and chest. The United States filed a protest. From the French, who educated most of Asia's leading Communist revolutionaries? Silence. Except that three weeks later the International Olympic Committee -- the same folks who honored Hitler's little racial purification experiments by awarding him the 1936 games -- announced the locale of their 2008 Olympic games. Yep. Beijing. Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. 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The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Some quotes (fwd) Date: 22 Jul 2001 20:51:35 -0700 Thought these might be of interest. Found on a pro-Second site. === "All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer === "We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution." - Abraham Lincoln === "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to god." - Thomas Jefferson === "Since It's the UN's 50th birthday, we should take a moment to ponder all the wonderful things that organization has done to make the world a better place. Let's do that right now. Ah, you're done. That didn't take long, did it?" - Chester G. Edwards. === "Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never -- in nothing, great or small, large or petty...never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense." "...we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds,...we shall fight in the hills;we shall never surrender...." - Winston Churchill === In Boston, 44.6% of public school teachers enroll their children in private schools--almost one in two! What do they know that average parents don't about public schools? === "Smoking kills. If you're killed, you've lost a very important part of your life." - Brooke Shields === "Outside of the killings, Washington (DC) has one of the lowest crime rates in the country." - Mayor Marion Barry, Washington DC === "The crime bill passed by the Senate would reinstate the Federal death penalty for certain violent crimes: assassinating the President; hijacking an airliner; and murdering a government poultry inspector." - Knight Ridder News Service dispatch === Annoy a Fascist: Just Say No to Gun Control! - Annoy a Liberal: Think! === "Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that [Hillary Clinton]...is a congenital liar." - William Safire === "No power over the freedom of religion [is] delegated to the United States by the Constitution." - Thomas Jefferson === "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with passions unbridled by morality and religion." - John Adams === "Mrs. President." Sen. Carol Moseley-Braun, whose mistake in introducing Hillary Rodham Clinton at the annual National Prayer Breakfast brought gasps from the crowd. - As reported in "Newsweek's" February 12th issue. === "His [Clinton's] approval ratings are about 50 percent now. If they get up to 60 percent, his people tell me Bill can start dating again," - South Carolina Democratic Sen. Fritz Hollings === Just one week after Clinton said the economy was the strongest it had been in 30 years, the Federal Reserve reduced the prime lending rate from 8.5 - percent to 8.25 percent to avert a recession. === Number of times Whitewater witnesses said "don't remember" - and "don't recall": 797. === "A young man who does not have what it takes to perform military service is not likely to have what it takes to make a living." - John Fitzgerald Kennedy === "Ask not what your country can do for you: Ask what you can do for your country." John Fitzgerald Kennedy (Lest we forget JFK was a Democrat, my how - things change!) === "Justice Department studies show that armed citizens are much less likely to suffer losses or personal injury from thieves" - Washington Post 1/7/92 === Statement made by Oliver North when asked to comment on Clinton's draft record. "I would rather vote for Jane Fonda than Gov. Clinton! At - least she has been to North Vietnam." === "The 2nd amendment was never intended to allow private citizens to 'keep and bear arms'. If it had, there would have been wording such as 'the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'" - Ken Konecki on Usenet, on 27 Jul 1992 === "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke (1729-1797) === "I didn't see any NRA officials killing babies in Waco..."--P.J. - O'Rourke === "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." - Mahatma Ghandi === - Gun control isn't about guns -- it's about control. === - NRA life member John F.Kennedy was shot by ACLU member Lee Harvey Oswald === "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - 1 Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 (C. J. Boyd, Ed., 1950). === "A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have." - Barry Goldwater. === "...African-Americans watch the same news at night that ordinary Americans do." President William Jefferson Clinton on Black Entertainment Television, - November 2, 1994 === "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson === "Let he who is with out a sword, let him sell his coat and buy one." - Jesus Christ Luke 22:36 === "Since Florida has enacted their concealed carry law, the Florida murder rate has dropped by 29%. Nationwide, the murder rate rose 11% over the same period..." - 1994 FBI crime data from ABC news 3/12/95 === "Please do not feed the squirrels. If you feed the squirrels, they'll become overweight, and prone to disease. Their population will grow, and they'll lose their ability to forage for food on their own. They will expect you to feed them and will attack you if you don't. They'll become like little welfare recipients, and you wouldn't want to do this to them." - Sign reported by Clifford F. in Rocky Mountain National Park === "Corrupt politicians make the other ten percent look bad" - Henry Kissinger === "The President's essential character flaw isn't dishonesty so much as a-honesty. It isn't that Clinton means to say things that are not true, or that he cannot make true, but that everything is true for him when he says it, because he says it. Clinton means what he says when he says it, but tomorrow he will mean what he says when he says the opposite. He is the existential President, living with absolute sincerity in the passing moment." Michael Kelly, "The President's Past," New York Times Magazine, - July 31, 1994 === "Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names." --John - F. Kennedy === "To be prepared for War is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." - George Washington === "When the government fears the People, that is Liberty. When the People fear the Government, that is tyranny." Thomas Jefferson "The greatest glory of the American Revolution was this: It connected - in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the === "Things don't turn up in this world until somebody turns them up." - James A. Garfield === "It is both possible and moral, to love one's country and hate its government." - Dr. Walter E. Williams === "Those who survived the San Francisco earthquake said, 'Thank God I'm still alive.' But, of course, those who died, their lives will never be the same again." - U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer === "This is the worst disaster in California since I was elected." - California Governor Pat Brown on a local flood === "To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt === "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - Thomas Jefferson === "There are three side effects of acid. Enchanced long term memory, decreased short term memory, and I forget the third." - Timothy Leary === Former Pennsylvania Gov. Robert Casey (D) put it best: "President Clinton says he wants abortion to be safe, legal and rare, but he's helped make - it safe, legal and everywhere." === "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." - George Bernard Shaw === "Ninety-eight percent of the adults in this country are decent, hardworking, honest Americans. It's the other lousy two percent that get all the publicity. But then, we elected them!" - Lily Tomlin === "[Bill Clinton] has kept the promises he meant to keep." [On the claim that "lying" should be grounds to nullify an election:] "If that's the standard, President Clinton could get the death penalty at this point." - Jay Leno === They say, ever since he met JFK as a kid, Bill Clinton wanted to be President in the worst possible way... And he's succeeded beyond his wildest - dreams. === And you didn't think Al Gore was funny? We all know about Whitewater and the alleged shredding of documents. On Sunday (3/6/94) Al responded to an interviewer's question about evidence: "Bill and Hillary have provided - the special prosecutor with every shred of evidence they have." === From The Simpsons, April, 1993 "Didn't you think there was something wrong when you were getting checks for doing nothing?" "I thought - it was because the Democrats were back in power." === "I'm not concerned about Hillary Clinton talking to the dead, I'm concerned that Bill Clinton might say he believes in reincarnation, and we're going to be taxed for money we may have earned in a previous life." - SPEECHWRITER DOUG GAMBLE, 7/5/96 === "I'd rather have a gun and not need - it than need a gun and not have it." - Christian Slater (In the movie "True Romance") === A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." - The Second Amendment to the Constitution of the Unites States of - America, 1791 === "Arms in the hands of citizens [may] be used at individual discretion...in private self-defense." John Adams, 1788, A Defense of the Constitutions of the Government - of the USA, 471 === "The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." Samuel Adams, Debates & Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth - of Massachusetts, 86-87. === "Those who trade essential liberty for a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin === "The whole of the Bill of Rights is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals... It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of." - - Albert Gallatin, the New York Historical Society, October 7th, 1789. === "Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" - Patrick Henry === "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined" - Patrick Henry === "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson === "No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms." Thomas Jefferson, proposed Virginia Constitution, June 1776, 1 T. Jefferson - Papers, 334 (C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950) === "On every question of construction [of the Constitution], let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invent against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed." Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete - Jefferson, p322. === "And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms...the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure." - Thomas Jefferson === "The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them." - - Zachariah Johnson, 3 Elliot, Debates at 646. Richard Henry Lee === "No free government was ever founded, or ever preserved its liberty, without uniting the characters of the citizen and soldier in those destined for the defense of the state...such area well-regulated militia, composed of the freeholders, citizen and husbandman, who take up arms to preserve their property, as individuals, and their rights as freemen." - Richard Henry Lee === "A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves...and include all men capable of bearing arms." Richard Henry Lee, additional letters from the Federal Farmer, 1788 - at 169 === "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them..." Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, - and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights === "The right of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country..." - James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789 === "the ultimate authority...resides in the people alone..." - James Madison, Federalist Paper No. 46 === "Congress shall never disarm any citizen unless such as are or have been in actual rebellion." - James Madison === "Americans [have] the right and advantage of being armed--unlike citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust people with arms." - James Madison === "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people... To disarm the people, that is the best and most effective way to enslave them..." - George Mason === "...to disarm the people [is] the best and most effective way to enslave them..." - George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380. === "The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand, arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and the plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside...horrid mischief would ensue were one half the world deprived of the use of them..." - Thomas Paine, I Writings of Thomas Paine at 56, 1984 === "Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington, presidential farewell address === "There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy." - George Washington === "A free people ought...to be armed..." George Washington, speech of January 7, 1790, printed in the Boston - Independent Chronicle, January 14, 1790. === "God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it." - Daniel Webster === "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States" - Noah Webster, pamphlet aimed at swaying Pennsylvania toward ratification -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Gun Give Away Date: 24 Jul 2001 05:16:53 -0700 I just heard a caller to the Ken Hamblin show report that the Phillipean Government has gotten so tired of some Islamic jihad/revolt thing they've got going on, that they've started handing out pistols and WW-II carbines to the Citizenry. Story unverified at the moment. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Catch the anti-gunners in a big whopping lie - UN style (fwd) Date: 24 Jul 2001 05:18:02 -0700 ALERT: Catch Them In A Whopping Big Lie -- U.N. Style Reply-to: webmaster@jpfo.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization (Subscribe/UnSubscribe instructions near the end of the message) July 23, 2001 ALERT: Catch Them In A Whopping Big Lie -- U.N. Style Have you got a friend or relative who thinks maybe the Million Misguided Moms had some valid points to make ... or maybe they had their "hearts in the right place"? Here is a quick "gotcha" you can use. It is a quote directly from Mary Leigh Blek, representative of the Millon Mom March organization, when she spoke last week at the United Nations "Conference on the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All its Aspects." Ms. Blek said: "The gun lobby has been talking for 40 minutes. During that time, 40 people have died from the use of small arms and light weapons in this country. That figure, not the statement of those representatives, is further proof that this country is at war." Do the math: 1 person per minute x 60 minutes per hour x 24 hours per day x 365 days = 525,600 people per year. Fact is, misuse of firearms in homicide, suicide and accidents, accounted for a total of 35,673 deaths in 1997. Less half of these deaths were homicides. Source: National Safety Council, Injury Facts: 2000 Edition, at 10, 117. (http://www.gunowners.org/fs0101.htm) The MMM representative, Ms. Blek, attempted to mislead the world conference by overstating the count of homicides by *2600* percent. Even counting the accidents and suicides in her favor, Ms. Blek exaggerated by *1400* percent. This error was not a minor goof or a decimal point shift problem. Such an outright misstatement of facts (made in writing, when the undisputed truth is known) must be a deliberate lie. The MMM counts on newsmedia and other uninformed people to accept the quoted statistics without checking -- most people naturally assume that "nobody would lie publicly about something so easy to verify." Use this fact with those folks who have been believing the MMM to be "a group of women just trying to protect their children from harm." We can't speak for all the members, but the leadership is willing to lie grossly to a high-profile world conference to further their anti-self defense agenda. Now you have hard proof ... in their own words. Click on: http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2001/DC2792.doc.htm The Liberty Crew -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Albert Coombs v. Sprint and AT&T (fwd) Date: 24 Jul 2001 21:40:31 -0700 You might want to check your own phone bill and the "taxes" and "charges" on it to see if you are being fleeced. Huck ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 7:47 PM Albert Coombs v. Sprint and AT&T PRELUDE TO PHONE CASE http://www.atgpress.com/phonecase/001.html http://www.atgpress.com/phonecase/toc.html This case started in July of 1998 when I, Albert Coombs, researched the "Gore Taxes." They were instituted on all people's phone bills before July of 1998. I was incensed when I started discovering numerous unidentified doubtful charges appearing on my recent phone bills. That is what started me on a crusade to see what I could find out about all these charges that the phone company said were federally mandated. I spent 6 months with Sprint, my local carrier in letter writing to no avail. AT&T got into the picture because I was withholding from payment, all charges that I found unconstitutional, repealed, or flat out not instituted by Congress, namely the Gore taxes. While searching the Gore taxes, one thing led to another. I ran across some startling finds. One of which was the federal excise tax. I found that the regulations declared that in July of 1965 they were repealed. That regulation no longer exists. I then looked to the Statute created by Congress and sure enough it also said the federal excise tax was repealed in 1968. I then looked for the federal Form with the OMB number that did at one time exist. This was to be filed by everyone paying the federal excise tax. It also was eliminated. I proceeded to obtain the statutes at large from 1898 that created the federal excise tax on phones. I found that only the people owning and operating phone lines were required to pay this tax and not the consuming public. In fact in the statutes at large not one mention that the tax could be passed on to the consumer. What all the hoopla has been about since I filed the brief by certain Congress critters is this. They called and introduced many bills calling for a repeal of the excise tax. Why now all of a sudden? Because you people never knew it was repealed in 1965. If Congress did repeal it on say June of 2001 no one would be the wiser and no one could collect the taxes paid back to 1965. Are they protecting you? NO. Are they protecting a billion-dollar industry that gives them slush fund money? YES I then researched North Carolina's state sales tax. Lo and behold there is almost the identical wording as the 1898 federal excise tax. So I went further and found that the North Carolina legislature did not properly enact this statute. They violated the North Carolina Constitution when only "adopting" and not "enacting" the law which the Constitution stated had to be exact in the wording. This lead me to the other charges like the 911 and the hearing-impaired charge called NC Relay. They too were only directory and applied to a member of the corporation called the county body politic. In other words if you did not register to vote and claimed you were not a member of that incorporated town you were not required to pay either of these charges. This is the law now and the words employed in the statute. It is not the old saying that "the law says you have to pay." It is what the law itself says, not the politician or bureaucrat. So after talking to AT&T and Sprint top people on the phone and letter writing I decided I had researched for 1000 hours plus that I had enough solid documentation to file a complaint with the Public Utilities Commission (PUC) of North Carolina against Sprint over all these charges. The date was December 30, 1998. The PUC, through an internal memo to their counsel, stated that if they had jurisdiction over the matter that they would have to add AT&T to the complaint. The very next day the counsel agreed and AT&T was added and the complaint filed by the PUC against the phone companies. So now I had admission that the PUC declared it had total jurisdiction. I contacted the United States General Accounting Office and asked for them to send directly to the PUC the findings that the FCC violated the corporation control act and the Gore taxes were "non-constitutional." They did on my behalf and now the PUC had a hot potato. You see I had asked, among other things, to return all federal excise taxes to the people all the way back to 1965. I talked to two GAO attorneys on the matter. Three months after I filed my complaint I got a call from a GAO attorney. The conversation was very informative. The GAO attorney stated to me that they had no idea a complaint was filed until I called them. He stated that it caused them to look closer on the matter. He stated that one month after I filed my complaint, the FCC disbanded to two private corporations it created in Delaware to collect the Gore taxes. Then they moved them to another corporation to cover what they had done so no one could follow the trail. The attorney said yes to my question when I asked if that corp. was unconstitutional also. After eight months of briefs back and forth between me and the phone companies, through the PUC, a man named Paul Burge came on board as an intervener. Anyone that had the same charges could become involved. Mr. Burge, a paralegal, was the only one besides me, that pursued the matter; even though I had plastered on the e mails and internet that please, anyone wishing to join come on. Well, after a long delay the PUC up and denied Mr. Burge intervener status because of the lame excuse that he had no interest in the outcome of this matter. That's right he was paying the same illegal charges that I was asked to pay and the PUC "declared" he had no interest in this matter? Mr. Burge, having legal background "appealed" the PUC's absurd order and persisted by joining me on all briefs and documentation filed to the North Carolina Supreme Court and ultimately to the Supreme Court of the United States. To this very day; Mr. Burge has never received an answer from his timely and properly filed Appeal at the PUC level; even though he and I were called upon to speak on this lawsuit before the Public Utilities Commission oversight panel of the North Carolina General Assembly subsequent to his alleged denial of intervener status. Then in August of 1999 the PUC called for a full-blown public hearing on the complaint. Well. The law stated that NOW I could file for discovery after the Hearing was set, which I did. Now are you ready for this? The PUC took the discovery, looked at it, and immediately called off the previously scheduled hearing and then also decided to dismiss the complaint saying it had no jurisdiction. All this happened only after they read the questions that Sprint and AT&T would have to respond to under an oath! This is exactly the opposite and in direct contradiction of the PUC's own actions, as they, not Mr. Burge and myself, found jurisdiction to add AT&T to my Complaint in 1998. Our Discovery asked the phone companies to produce the actual statutes at large created by Congress that authorized them to collect all these taxes under the constitution. This question and many similar discovery questions we proffered to the phone companies; undoubted it put the fear of "incrimination" in the phone company legal staff. The PUC already knew the score and could already see the writing on the wall as this case was unfolding; so they used the only avenue to STOP US DEAD IN OUR TRACKS. They immediately reversed their own prior Order for a Public Hearing and proceeded to quickly BURY this entire matter without allowing further evidence to unfold that would surely implicate the phone companies in illegal activities. Mr. Burge and I found out that the PUC was actually our adversary all along. The PUC, when it comes to something this monumental will side with the Big companies, not the people it is too supposedly created to protect from price gouging. The bottom line is that we are paying the operating costs of the phone companies as well as charged for the basic phone service. Sweet little deals they have going. In fact so sweet it reeks of RICO, extortion and FRAUD, not to mention it fits the definition of fascism to a T. As a side note I contacted the Attorney General of NC, Mike Easley, who is now Governor, to intervene on behalf of the people of North Carolina to investigate the illegal charges. The Attorney General previously had been sent the paperwork. The reason being, the law requires that when a case this big come to the PUC they are required by public policy to bring it to the attention of the Attorney General. Well the DAG wrote me and actually called me and stated the case was rather interesting but they did not have the man power to pursue the action. Well how about that, he would not protect the people of North Carolina from Billions of dollars fraudulently extorted from the NC subscribers. Doesn't that beat all. Hum..mm , I guess they need to preserve their manpower so they can go after all those criminal traffic offenders who don't wear seatbelts. Anyway, after totally researching the Laws and procedures of NC, we found that we could file a direct appeal to the North Carolina Supreme Court under the "rate case" statute. This had never been done in the history of North Carolina by consumers. It took three months of talking on the phone, letters and actually going to the Supreme Court to sit down and talking with them, to make them realize we could do what we said the law said we could. Imagine that, a researcher and a paralegal explaining to the Supreme Court personnel what the statutes actually says? Yes people they are that ignorant. And you think you get a fair deal in these courts? Stay tuned, because is about to get better, or worse really. The Supreme Court finally accepted the paperwork with both our names as appellants because Mr. Burge was appealing his denial to intervene. The appeal was filed and we waited for the response from the phone companies. 30 days came and went. Nothing. We filed a nihil dicit judgement of default against the phone companies for never having filed an appearance paper or response. We went to a NC Rep. He made a few calls and wrote a few letters. Well all of a sudden we get a letter saying Mr. Burge was dismissed and the case had been closed. WHAT, I said? When did this happen? The clerk said two weeks ago did you not get the Order? I said no we did not receive anything. Well the next day the Order of the court was mailed to me. The judges stated the case was dismissed ex mero muto without further comment. I mean, come on, even a first year law student knows it's an automatic default when one party fails to respond to a formal action. So we filed for a rehearing, demanding a reason as dictated by the Rules of NC, for the Courts. The response was-- we, "the" court, do not have to follow the law that applies to every other court in NC, case dismissed again, with no reason. Now is something starting to smell really rotten in Denmark? I tried finding the Justices disclosure if they had stock in the phone companies and after 12 different people in seven different agencies, including the agency that votes the justices into office by popular vote, I ran into the brick wall. No one would disclose that info even under FOIA. Oh a side note. The Rep that helped us never got the phone company donation that he previously received while in office for all prior years. See, the big companies know the pocket book speaks louder than law and is more powerful than any other law Congress or the legislature of any State writes. So we filed to the US Supreme Court. The docket number was 00-1605 and was posted on their web page. One Justice found merit in our case and that is why it went to a full certiorari conference. Well in the process we found out another hot item. The FCC is a private treaty created organization under the various acts of the1930's when the international communications act was instituted. They are passed off as a government agency. Boy have we been had. Since the FCC created these illegal Gore taxes the only way to make them legal under the Treaty was for Congress to enact the laws that FCC created and Congress never did. You, my dear people are taxed, NOT by Congress but a mere private agency in contradiction to their own Constitution. This was all put to the US Supreme Court. All the other actions in the country by all these high-priced lawyers never turned up what we found. The end result? The four year law grads aiding the Supreme Court Justices denied cert. Not any of the justices mind you, but only the clerk. I filed a response demanding the name of the justice that said the case had merit and filed a denial of the decision directly to the Chief Justice in January of 2001. To date there has been no response and I don't expect one. Since 1998 the illegal charges I withheld amounted to 669.24. Just think I am small peanuts compared to businesses and large users and multiply the millions of phone users times my bill and you have billions of dollars. Do you know that a person not having any long distance calls is paying 37 percent of his bill in these illegal charges every month? And people complain about a 5 or 10-cent gas hike which amounts to 1.07 percent, when the gas goes from 1.40 to 1.55 a gallon and yet not complain of a 37 percent gouge from the phone companies? I am now including the full brief entered before the NC Supreme Court, the default, and the rehearing, to show you why the phone companies would not dare file a response and why the Court is protecting them. After all the Bar buddies have to stick it to the people as they cover each others backs. Don't they always put the little man on the bottom? Recently the phone company Sprint threatened to shut off my phone so I have to pay the extortion under TDC, and fraud. There has never been a legal determination in our case on the merits. The courts just flatly refused to hear the case and never stated the complaint was frivolous or in any other way, unwarranted. The PUC only stated that it had no jurisdiction while it's own prior "joinder Order" indicated that it DID have such jurisdiction. Oh....what a tangled web They weave? -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Book on "How to Run for Local Office" (fwd) Date: 25 Jul 2001 10:27:41 -0700 I haven't seen this book yet, and doubt that it has the character of the original grassroots how-to manual by Robert A. Heinlein, "How To Take Bac= k Your Government", but it might have good updated info..... 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Thomas Mayor Westland, MI --=20 --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! --- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: The Treasonous Gift of American Land to the Socialist United Nations (fwd) Date: 25 Jul 2001 18:31:27 -0700 ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:26 PM THE LIGHTNING BOLT OF REALITY: TREASON RUNS DEEP! Posted By: PuzzlePieces THE UNITED NATIONS HAS APPARENTLY ALREADY BEEN GIVEN KLAMATH FALLS AND THE OHIO VALLEY AND WHO KNOWS HOW MANY OTHERS... "When I compared the U.N protected areas to regions that are under fire from federal regulators and environmental takings that force people from the land, I found they are the same." A LIST OF SOME OF THE 'TREASONOUS': "U.S agencies with IUCN membership and providing funding include:Department of Agriculture - Forest Service, Department of the Interior, National Park Service, U.S. Agency for International Development, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Department of Commerce and Department of State." A Lightning Bolt of Reality - The UN Threat To America By J. Zane Walley This article made possible by a grant from the Paragon Foundation 7-23-1 Is the United Nations threat to America freedoms genuine? For years, I shrugged such a farfetched notion off. I would listen patiently to very earnest folks who spouted a seemingly endless stream of dire warnings about global and one-world government. I reckoned they had fallen under the influence of the conspiracy conjecturers and spent too much time reading spy thrillers and watching science fiction. As I researched the plight of farmers, ranchers, miners, loggers and other people who made their living from the land, it became apparent that their livelihoods and homes were being annihilated by international treaties and agreements. Global pacts hidden darkly in the background apparently drove major federal government actions that were hostile to people who work the land. The first lighting bolt of reality exploded into my dumbed-down brain when a very knowledgeable scholar gave me a copy of a 1972 environmental law paper by the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural Resources (IUCN) Morges, Switzerland. In the IUCN paper, The Easement as a Conservation Technique, chapter two, titled, "The Need for Conservation Easements in the United States" explains how governmental agencies can regulate private property without owning or paying for it. It also suggests that CEs are a method for Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) to achieve regulatory authority. It further explains how state and federal constitutional private property rights laws could be circumvented. In researching the IUCN I found that they are the environmental agency of the United Nations, bringing together 76 states, 111 government agencies, 732 NGOs, 36 affiliates, and some 10,000 scientists and experts from 181 countries. Their membership list of signatory American agencies and NGO has dumbfounded me. U.S agencies with IUCN membership and providing funding include: Department of Agriculture - Forest Service, Department of the Interior, National Park Service, U.S. Agency for International Development, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, Department of Commerce and Department of State. A very few of the many IUCN NGOs members are: The Nature Conservancy, Defenders of Wildlife, Environmental Defense Fund, National Audubon Society, National Parks and Conservation Association, National Wildlife Federation, and Natural Resources Defense Council. In fact, almost all of the Major NGOs who are wreaking ruin on proud and productive Americans are IUCN signatories. Further research proved that The Tax Reform Act of 1976 incorporated principles favorable to the IUCN vision. Virtually, elements of the act were a rubber stamp of the IUCN agenda. Simply summed up, their agenda is global environmental regulation. To regulate the world environment, they must of course, regulate the people. I followed that thread into the spool and stumbled on a United Nations website, U.N. Protected Areas in the United States. The website contained 129 fine-print pages of U.N. Protected areas in America! 129! Millions upon millions of acres of our country are listed. Those protected areas are regulated by the IUCN. When I compared the U.N protected areas to regions that are under fire from federal regulators and environmental takings that force people from the land, I found they are the same. Other documents also have severely unnerved me. The United Nations Program of Action of the International Conference on Population and Development produced a how-to-manual, The Forced Relocation of Rural Populations, which was distributed in Africa and included the stated mission, "To foster a more balanced spatial distribution of the population by promoting in an integrated manner equitable and ecologically sustainable development." One of the concepts advanced in the U.N paper will ring true to countless rural Americans who helplessly watched their lives be destroyed by environmental regulations. "When rural resident inhabitants are denied access to the natural resources essential to their livelihoods, they will be forced by economics to relocate." Our own government has two publications in print that will raise your hackles: The first, Your Rights and Benefits as a Displaced Person, (Publication No. FHWA-PD-95-010) states, "Government programs designed to benefit the public often result in acquisition of private property and sometimes in the displacement of people from their residences, businesses, or farms." The other pamphlet, Acquiring Real Property for Federal and Federal Aid Programs and Projects (Publication No. FHWA-PD-95 005), spells out how the government can take your land. The U.S Government publications and the U. N. Manual have analogous themes. The Endangered Species Act is a concrete example of the authoritarian power of international treaties over Americans rights and property. Read U.S. Code 16, Sec. 1531 (a) (4) Congressional Findings and Declaration of Purposes and Policy. You will find that the Endangered Species Act is conformable to and in accordance with: (A) migratory bird treaties with Canada and Mexico; (B) the Migratory and Endangered Bird Treaty with Japan; (C) the Convention on Nature Protection and Wildlife Preservation in the Western Hemisphere; (D) the International Convention for the Northwest Atlantic Fisheries; (E) the International Convention for the High Seas Fisheries of the North Pacific Ocean; (F) the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora; and (G) other international agreements In a mockery of the "advice and consent" responsibility placed upon the Senate by our Constitution, the U.S. Senate ratified 34 international treaties without debate, without a vote, and almost without notice during the 106th Congress. So, am I hearing the flutter of black helicopter rotors and the goose-stepping tread of foreign troops? No. However, the evidence that our freedoms are being methodically destroyed by federal agencies that kowtow to international powers is both concrete and public. The clamor to get America out of The U.N. is direly inadequate. If our country is to regain sovereignty, we must abrogate all international treaties and require that our federal bureaus withdraw from U.N pawn agencies.[ It is time to water the tree of liberty with the blood of traitors--btw] -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Driving Us to Violence (fwd) Date: 25 Jul 2001 23:58:11 -0700 >Driving Us To Violence >By Ray Thomas > >One of the things I've noticed lately is that the government, at all >levels, seems to be going out of its way to do things that enrage the >citizens. > >Things that if these citizens have a backbone, would cause them to rebel. >Almost the way King George kept on doing things to enrage the colonists >until they rebelled. Only it didn't turn out the way King George planned. >Is the idea to push us so hard that we'll inevitably fight back so they can >use the army to "crush us?" It's a known fact that the first people to rebel >will be those most likely to rebel. > >It's an efficient way to get those people to "reveal themselves" so they can >be "taken out." Let's look at a few of their outrages: > >Child Protection: They claim that child abuse is "in crisis." > >That "reports" of child abuse have increased at an "alarming rate" >and that "extreme measures" are necessary to combat it. Measures that >violate the Constitution and rape the rights of parents. They routinely >snatch children from loving parents, force the parents to "jump through many >hoops" in an effort to satisfy the child protectors so they can get their >children back. But they most likely have lost them forever, especially if >they don't have the resources to hire lawyers and expert witnesses and fight >them properly. > >There are several things nobody knows, or will not admit. First, that in >every case, the child protectors will try to keep the children, even if no >charges can be proven against the parents, and put them up for adoption, >thereby permanently severing the ties between parent and child. They get >large fees from the feds for every day those children are in their custody >and $4,500 to $6,000 for each adoption. > >Second, that 80% to 90% of those "child abuse reports" just aren't true >(by their own figures). But they do get lots of "reports" because they >advertise for them. They have literally hundreds of "hot lines" where >people can call in and make a "report" of child abuse that is totally >anonymous. > >That's right: forget about the constitutional right to "confront your >accuser." All it takes is an anonymous "report" to cause the child >protectors to come in and ruin your life and in the end, probably destroy >it. The "Good Samaritan Laws" completely protect not only the person doing >the "reporting," but also everybody connected with the child protectors from >any kind of "legal" retaliation, even if the report or actions of the social >workers can be shown to be lies and overstepping of their authority, they >usually cannot be sued. They have it all their own way, set up to keep us >from being able to properly oppose them. > >Part of their "advertising involves teaching your children in school that if >they ever "don't like what their parents are doing, all they have to do is >put in a child abuse "report" and their parents will be "taken care of." > >Talk about destroying parental authority! > >The kids don't understand how devastating this can be to their family until >it's too late. If they later recant, they are simply not believed. > >What really amazes me is the fact that almost nobody pulls a "going postal" >event on a child protector office. They're hurting families "where they >live" in one of the most basic of things: the love between a parent and >child. Yet nobody commits violence against them. Postal workers have >gotten so angry over working conditions, for Heaven's sake that they've gone >into their workplace with guns and killed people. It even happened one time >in a state government office. > >So why does nobody go into a child protector office and kill people? > >It could be that while doping up children to make them mind, they're also >forcing parents to be doped, as well. There is a rising effort in child >abuse cases to force parents to be drugged, since their actions in response >to having their family destroyed sometimes causes people to "diagnose" them >as "out of control." > >Whatever the reason, they can't keep it under control much longer, because >people are reaching their limit. And maybe that's the plan, with social >workers being the "cannon fodder" to force government retaliation. > >"Storm Trooper" Raids: It used to be that if the police wanted to arrest >you, they knocked on your door, showed you the warrant, and took you into >custody. No one got hurt (as a rule). Today, they get out their >"jack-boots" and burst into your home or business screaming with way too >many cops, carrying "assault rifles" and "flash-bang grenades," If you try >to defend yourself, they often just "fill you full of lead." Many times they >find, after they've killed somebody, that they were at the wrong address >(again, more and more often)! > >That the person they killed was completely innocent and had no reason to >believe it was cops bursting into his/her home in such a fashion so they >tried to defend their home and family. In one case in Denver a cop said: >"If Mena had not had a gun, he'd still be alive." So today, it's a crime to >try to defend your home when people you don't know are cops invade your >home? Ismael Mena was executed for "contempt of cop." He was otherwise >innocent, even though they tried to demonize him. > >Such raids are happening with increasing frequency all over the country, and >the "causes" are becoming more and more trivial. A recent raid involved an >alleged "pyramid scheme" scam. In such raids, cops are becoming more and >more "trigger-happy," killing more and more innocent people. If that isn't >a recipe for retaliatory violence from the citizens, I don't know what is. > >Land Grabs: In Sandpoint, Idaho recently, cops tricked JoAnn McGuckin into >going with them to "get some groceries." While they had her off her >property, they arrested her for imagined child abuse and put her in jail >while they went after her children. The idea was to get her and the >children off their land, which had previously been taken and sold for a >small tax bill. The bill was about $8,000 and the property was worth >$500,000. They took it and disposed of it in such a way that the county >kept the $45,000 left over after the taxes were paid instead of having to >give that money to her. > >The only reason we even know about it is that the kids held the cops at bay >for five days. That usually just doesn't happen. When they come for your >kids, they just take them and the news media usually knows nothing about it >(and doesn't care). They put a $100,000 bail on her to keep her out of it. > >The evidence of that is that after they finally got her kids off the >property, they reduced the charges and released her on her own recognizance >without conditions. > >They still have the kids and I'm confident that they'll ultimately be >adopted out. > >Land grabs such as this, like the "storm-trooper raids," are happening more >and more often. Sometimes it is a "naked grab" and other times it is simply >creating conditions that destroy the value of the land. > >Klamath Falls, Oregon: In this case, the feds didn't just grab the land. >They destroyed the value of the land, along with the economy of an entire >area of the country by shutting off irrigation water to all the 1,400 >farmers in the Klamath Valley. This destroyed the entire farming industry >in that area. Farmers are rebelling and have several times turned the water >back on. When the feds came in and guarded the "headgate controls," the >farmers dug a ditch and routed the water around it. What the feds will do >about that, I don't know. > >I do know that many farmers were "enticed" into moving there to farm by >promises of water rights "in perpetuity." Now that they have invested their >money and their lives there, the government has destroyed them. The >"excuse" is to "save" a "garbage fish." > >In other words, the government has taken the position that a fish is more >important than humans and that destroying the livelihood of thousands of >farmers and the economy of an entire area is more important. > >Waco: A lot has been written about this fiasco. It may have been the >"opening gun" in the campaign of the power seekers to push us to violence. >It was all about a small thing and did not warrant the massive >"storm-trooper" tactics the government used there. Especially since >they could have "taken"David Koresh any time while he was visiting >in town. But it was done in such a way that guaranteed a violent >response and caused the deaths of several feds ("cannon fodder") >and almost 100 Branch Davidians including many of the children >the government, and Janet Reno claim to want to "protect." > >According to the "Oklahoma Bomber," this is the catalyst for his >actions in blowing up the federal building there. > >Ruby Ridge: I can't even think about this outrage without getting mad. > >Here, they hid in the woods until Randy Weaver and his family dog discovered >them. Then they killed the dog (later driving over his body several times) >and laid siege to Weaver's home, ultimately wounding his son and killing his >wife with their infant in her arms by shooting her through a door from >hiding. Again, over a small thing that didn't warrant such a response. The >way they did it makes it look like they planned it that way. Lon Horiuchi, >the man who killed her from hiding, has still to be "brought to justice" and >may never be. > >I could go on and on, citing outrage after outrage, but I won't. You'd soon >get bored. Which is what the power seekers are counting on as they >continually "increase the ante" by doing things like this more and more >often until something "Snaps." They want people to "be bored" by such things >so they won't do anything about it until the number of those who have >suffered these abuses "rise up in righteous anger" and commit violence, as >happened in Oklahoma, so they can make ever more restrictive laws and even >send in the army to "crush" any opposition without the rest of us getting >excited. They're both pushing those who are nearer to violence into >"jumping off the deep end" and "desensitizing" the rest of us so they won't >have to fight the entire populace. After they've gotten rid of those who >would be the first to get violent over their outrages, it'll be easier to >control the rest because they'll have the "example" of what happened to the >people they "crushed." > >That's the way dictators work. Make an "example" of the most violent to use >in "cowing" the rest, who have become "bored" about constantly hearing of >one outrage or another somewhere else. By the time the power seekers get to >them, it will be too late. For them. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Holocaust Survivor Denounces Anti-Gun Movement (fwd) Date: 26 Jul 2001 14:16:47 -0700 Full Interview with Holocaust Survivor, Theodore Haas=20 =20 =20 Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc.=20 P.O. Box 270143=20 Hartford, WI 53027=20 Phone (262) 673-9745=20 Fax (262) 673-9746=20 ----- Holocaust Survivor Denounces Anti-Gun Movement Unlike many interviews with Holocaust survivors, this one conducted by=20 Aaron Zelman, founder, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (P= .O.=20 Box 270143, Hartford, WI 53027; 262-673-9745; membership $20) with Theodo= re=20 Haas, a JPFO member and a former prisoner of the infamous Dachau=20 concentration camp, is a clear warning to all freedom loving peoples to k= eep=20 our guard up against arrogant politicians who are hell bent to create=20 governments that control our lives. In pre-Nazi Germany, the good,=20 law-abiding citizens dozed while government passed laws (all purported to= be=20 for the public good) that paved the way for tyranny to flourish. Haas, wh= o=20 survived years of Nazi persecutors, is speaking out to Americans who are = now=20 dozing while our government, at the strong urging of leftists in the medi= a=20 and others in society they influence, passes laws (again supposedly for t= he=20 public good) to ban and severely restrict firearms ownership. Theodore Ha= as=20 believes gun control is a prelude to totalitarian rule -- The editors.=20 Go to the JPFO Main Page=20 Legacy of Gun Control ... a Flash Macromedia video movie.=20 ----- Q.) How did you end up at Dachau? How old were you? A.) November 9th, 1938 was Kristalnacht -- The Night of Broken Glass --= The=20 night Synagogues were ransacked and burned, Jewish owned shops destroyed;= I=20 guess you could call it the night the fires of hell engulfed the soul of=20 humanity. I was arrested November 10th, "for my own personal security." I= was=20 21 years old. My parents were arrested and ultimately died in a concentra= tion=20 camp in France. I was released from Dachau in 1941, under the condition t= hat=20 I leave Germany immediately. This was common procedure before the "Final=20 Solution." Q.) What did you think when you were sent to Dachau? What did you know=20 about Dachau beforehand? A.) My first thoughts were those many others: "The world has gone mad."= I=20 knew that the life expectancy at Dachau was relatively short. I knew=20 beforehand that inmates were abused. The horror of Dachau was known=20 throughout Germany. People (Germans) use to frighten their children, "If = you=20 do not behave, you will surely end up at Dachau." A famous German comedia= n,=20 Weiss Ferdl, said "Regardless how many machine gun towers they have aroun= d=20 K.Z. Dachau, if I want to get in, I shall get in." The Nazis obliged him;= he=20 died at Dachau. Q.) How did you accept the fears of Dachau? A.) Due to the constant hunger and extreme cold weather, one becomes to= o=20 numb to even think of fear. A prisoner under these conditions becomes=20 obsessed with survival; nothing else matters. Q.) What were the living conditions like in Dachau? A.) We were issued one quarter of a loaf of bread. That was to last thr= ee=20 days. In the morning, we picked up, at the kitchen, a cup of roasted barl= ey=20 drink. There was no lunch. At dinnertime, sometimes we got a watery soup = with=20 bits of tripe or some salt herring and a boiled potato. Our prison clothe= s=20 were a heavy, coarse denim. They would freeze when they got wet. We were = not=20 issued hats, gloves or underwear.=20 The first night, about 500 prisoners were stuffed into a room designed = to=20 hold 50 (Believe me, it is possible). Later on, we were forced to sleep o= n=20 straw. As time went on, the straw disintegrated and we became louse infes= ted.=20 The guards delighted in making weak and ill clothed prisoners march or st= and=20 at attention in rain, snow, and ice for hours. As you can imagine, death = came=20 often due to the conditions. Q.) Do you have residual fears? How do you feel about German re-unifica= tion? A.) I have nightmares constantly. I recently dreamed that a guard grabb= ed=20 me. My wife's arm touched my face, and I unfortunately bit her severely.=20 German re-unification, in my opinion, will be the basis for another war. = The=20 Germans, regardless of what their present leadership says, will want thei= r=20 lost territories back, East Prussia, Silesia, and Danzic (Gdansk). My fam= ily=20 history goes back over 700 years in Germany. I understand all too well wh= at=20 the politicians do not want the people to be thinking about. Q.) You mentioned you were shot and stabbed several times. Were these=20 experiments, punishment or torture? A.) They were punishment. I very often, in a fit of temper, acted "whil= e=20 the brain was not in gear." The sorry results were two 9 mm bullets in my= =20 knees. Fortunately, one of the prisoners had a fingernail file and was ab= le=20 to dig the slugs out. In another situation, I was stabbed in the washroom= of=20 room #1, Block 16. Twice in a struggle where I nearly lost my right thumb= . A=20 German prisoner Hans Wissing, who after the war became mayor of his home=20 town, Leinsweiler, witnessed the whole situation. We stayed in touch unti= l a=20 few months ago, when he died. Q.) Do you remember some of the steps taken by the Nazis to de-humanize= =20 people and to make them feel hopeless? How were people robbed of their=20 dignity? A.) If you had treated an animal in Germany the way we were treated, yo= u=20 would have been jailed. For example, a guard or a group of them would sin= gle=20 out a prisoner and beat him with canes or a club. Sometimes to further=20 terrorize a prisoner, the guards would form a circle around a prisoner an= d=20 beat him unconscious. There were cases of a prisoner being told to report= to=20 the Revier ("Hospital") and being forced to drink a quart of castor oil.=20 Believe me, this is a lousy, painful, wretched way to die. You develop=20 extreme diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, and severe dehydration. If the Nazis=20 wanted you to live and suffer more, they would take measures to rehydrate= to=20 victim. Q.) What was the routine like at Dachau? A.) Three times a day, we were counted. We had to carry the dead to the= =20 square. Each time, we had to stand at attention in all kinds of weather. = We=20 stood wearing next to nothing, had weak bladders, while our tormentors ha= d=20 sheepskin coats and felt boots. The bastards really enjoyed watching us=20 suffer. I remember how the guards had a good laugh when one of them=20 "accidentally" let loose with a machine gun, killing about 30 prisoners. Q.) What did people do to try to adjust to Dachau? Keep up their spirit= s up? A.) There were some actors, comedians, and musicians among us. Sometime= s=20 they would clandestinely perform. One of the musicians got hold of a viol= in=20 and played for us. To this day, it remains a mystery how he got his hands= on=20 a violin. I still keep in touch with other prisoners. I am a member of th= e=20 Dachau Prisoners Association. Each year I go back to Germany to visit. Q.) Did people ever successfully escape? Do you remember acts of braver= y? A.) Nobody escaped, only in the movies does the "hero" escape. Guards=20 received extra leave time for killing prisoners that got too close to the= =20 fence. I do, however, think all prisoners were heroes in their own way.=20 Especially the German prisoners, for they would not acquiesce to the Nazi= s.=20 They suffered greatly too. Q.) Did the camp inmates ever bring up the topic, "If only we were arme= d=20 before, we would not be here now"? A.) Many, many times. Before Adolph Hitler came to power, there was a b= lack=20 market in firearms, but the German people had been so conditioned to be l= aw=20 abiding, that they would never consider buying an unregistered gun. The=20 German people really believed that only hoodlums own such guns. What fool= s we=20 were. It truly frightens me to see how the government, media, and some po= lice=20 groups in America are pushing for the same mindset. In my opinion, the pe= ople=20 of America had better start asking and demanding answers to some hard=20 questions about firearms ownership, especially if the government does not= =20 trust me to own firearms, why or how can the people be expected to trust = the=20 government?=20 There is no doubt in my mind that millions of lives could have been sav= ed=20 if the people were not "brainwashed" about gun ownership and had been wel= l=20 armed. Hitler's thugs and goons were not very brave when confronted by a = gun.=20 Gun haters always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, which is a=20 perfect example of how a ragtag, half starved group of Jews took up 10=20 handguns and made asses out of the Nazis. Q.) Did you have any contacts with the White Rose Society (mostly Germa= n=20 students against Hitler)? Did anyone try to hide you from the Nazis? A.) I did not, but my local friend, Richard Scholl, had two cousins or=20 nephews who were members. Both were executed in Munich (I believe) for=20 standing up for decency and freedom. Not enough people knew about the Whi= te=20 Rose Society. There were many non Jews who were not anti Semitic and were= =20 very much opposed to Hitler. It was impossible to hide people from the Na= zis=20 in Germany -- it is so densely populated and food was rationed. Another p= oint=20 that many people fail to understand is that in Germany, you had a situati= on=20 where the children were reporting to their teachers if their parents list= ened=20 to the BBC on the short wave radio, or what they were talking about at ho= me.=20 If a German was friendly to a Jew, he was warned once. If he failed to he= ed=20 the warning, he would disappear and never be heard from again. This was k= nown=20 as "Operation Night and Fog." Q.) Do you think American society has enough stability that Jews and ot= her=20 minorities are safe from severe persecution? A.) No. I think there is more anti-Semitism in America (some of it caus= ed=20 by leftist Jewish politicians and organizations who promote gun control=20 schemes) than there was in Germany. This may stun some people, but not al= l=20 Germans hated Jews. My best and devoted friends in Germany were Christian= s. I=20 perceive America as a very unstable society, due to social tinkering of t= he=20 Kennedy/Metzenbaum-type politicians. When I first came to this wonderful=20 country after World War II, America was vibrant, dynamic and promising=20 society. There really was an American dream, attainable by those who want= ed=20 to work. Now, due to the curse of Liberalism, America is in a period of m= oral=20 decline. Even worse, corrupt criminals hold high political office, and yo= u=20 have police officials who don't give a damn about the Bill of Rights. The= y=20 just want to control people, not protect and serve. When you study histor= y,=20 you see that when a country becomes an immoral manure heap, as America is= =20 rapidly becoming, all minorities suffer, and ultimately, all the citizens. Q.) What words of warning would you like to give to young people who wi= ll=20 soon be eligible to vote? A.) Vote only for politicians who trust the people to own all types of=20 firearms, and who have a strong pro-Second Amendment voting record.=20 Anti-gunownership politicians are very dangerous to a free society. Liber= ty=20 and freedom can only be preserved by an armed citizenry. I see creeping=20 fascism in America, just as in Germany, a drip at a time; a law here, a l= aw=20 there, all supposedly passed to protect the public. Soon you have total=20 enslavement. Too many Americans have forgotten that tyranny often masquer= ades=20 as doing good. This is the technique the Liberal politicians/Liberal medi= a=20 alliance are using to enslave America. Q.) What message do you have for ultra-Liberal organizations and=20 individuals who want America disarmed? A.) Their ignorance is pitiful -- their lives have been too easy. Had t= hey=20 experienced Dachau, they would have a better idea of how precious freedom= is.=20 These leftist should leave America. These Sarah Brady types must be educa= ted=20 to under-stand that because we have an armed citizenry, that a dictatorsh= ip=20 has not yet happened in America. These anti-gun fools are more dangerous = to=20 Liberty than street criminals or foreign spies. Q.) Some concentration camp survivors are opposed to gun ownership. Wha= t=20 message would you like to share with them? A.) I would like to say, "You cowards; you gun haters, you don't deserv= e to=20 live in America. Go live in the Soviet Union, if you love gun control so = d---=20 much." It was the stupidity of these naive fools that aided and abetted=20 Hitler's goons and thugs. Anti-gunownership Holocaust survivors insult th= e=20 memories of all those that needlessly perished for lack of being able to=20 adequately defend themselves. Q.) It appears the Liberal left in America is tolerating, and sometimes= =20 espousing anti-Semitism. Why do you think so many Jews still support the=20 leftist form of Liberalism? A.) It is for this very reason that I firmly believe that we harbor mor= e=20 stupid and naive people in our midst, than any other group of people. It=20 amazes me how Liberal Jews have such short memories that today, they woul= d be=20 so supportive and involved in setting up the mechanics of gun control, so= =20 that a Holocaust can happen again. All they're doing is playing into the=20 hands of the very clever communists who are masters at conning Americans. Q.) Why did you join JPFO? A.) I feel every Jew should be armed to the teeth, as should every=20 American. I joined JPFO because as a group, we can stand up up Liberal Je= wish=20 gun haters and also to Gestapo minded anti-gun police who want total cont= rol=20 of the people. I wish JPFO was in existence years ago. I believe the Jewi= sh=20 involvement in gun control would not be anywhere close to what it is toda= y,=20 but better now than never.=20 ----- To deny that an unarmed citizen could benefit from being well armed in = a=20 predicament such as this, is to Love a Lie, more than to love the truth! ----- [ JPFO Home > Gun Control -- The KEY to GENOCIDE! > Holocaust Survi= vor=20 Denounces Anti-Gun Movement ]=20 ----- =A9 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000 JPFO < webmaster@jpfo.org >=20 --=20 --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RK= BA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! --- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: VIN: Disloyal to the United States? (fwd) Date: 27 Jul 2001 10:54:47 -0700 FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Disloyal to the United States? New Attorney General (and former U.S. Sen.) John Ashcroft has said he will honor President Bush's desire to extend the federal ban on further manufacture or import of certain semi-automatic rifles with pistol grips, bayonet lugs, and 20-round magazines (weapons which are designed to look like "assault weapons," even though they lack the true assault weapon's capacity for automatic fire -- real assault rifles having been heavily taxed and regulated as a "machine gun" ever since 1934.) Sen. Ashcroft testified at his Senate confirmation hearing, "I don't believe the Second Amendment to be one that forbids any regulation of guns." This is a radical defender of the Second Amendment and the Bill of Rights? Paging Wimp Central. Sen. Ashcroft does not promise the long-overdue shutdown of the firearms division of the BATF. He does not even call for the average American to again be allowed to purchase a newly-imported machine gun through the mails, as any of our law-abiding grandparents could before 1934. Rather, the attorney general embraces what is now described in the legal journals as the standard position on the Second Amendment (endorsed by the liberal Lawrence Tribe of Harvard, among others), that while some "pragmatic" regulation may be allowable, the Second Amendment means what it plainly says: that individual, private citizens of these United States have a "right to keep and bear arms," which none may "infringe." Much is made of the "militia clause," which prefaces this ban on infringement by stating "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State... ." Indeed, the Supreme Court took this militia stipulation into account in its decision in the 1939 Miller case, in which the justices asked the prosecutors whether the sawed-off-shotgun in question was a weapon of military usefulness. With Miller (an indigent and itinerant moonshiner) not represented, the spokesman for the government falsely and without opposition asserted that sawed-off shotguns had been of no use at all in the trenches of the recent World War. With this false testimony unchallenged, the high court remanded the Miller case, advising that ownership of a sawed-off shotgun would not be protected under the Second Amendment if such a weapon was, in fact, of no military usefulness. Miller is often cited today as a case supporting the government's right to regulate or even ban firearms except in use by the National Guard. But no one contended Miller was involved in discharging his duties as a member of the Missouri National Guard as he stood protecting his illicit whiskey still with his sawed-off shotgun. Rather, under the logic of the 1939 Miller court, it is private possession of precisely those weapon of military utility (such as the true, fully-automatic assault rifle, and the shoulder-launched, heat-seeking missile) which is most directly protected by the Second Amendment. Why else would the court have asked whether the sawed-off shotgun was a weapon of military utility? Anyway, do those who advance the "militia argument" really want to help us make sure our local citizen militias are better armed and better drilled (the colonial meaning of "well regulated," as it's still the British meaning), and thus better prepared to resist any further federal usurpation of powers not duly delegated to the central government by the Constitution? Of course not. They know full well that a disarmed populace is far less likely to resist ever-higher taxes to fund the gun-grabbers' favorite social engineering schemes, not to mention busy federal beavers shutting off the irrigation water to save the "endangered sucker fish" of the Klamath River Valley. What they want has nothing to do with the Founders' intent that America should depend on a strong and independent-minded citizen militia instead of a standing army under the central control of Washington City. No, this is all just a lawyer's parlor trick to get to a result best summarized as: "I don't want Suprynowicz and his buddies to own any more guns, except maybe one inoffensive, single-shot hunting rifle apiece," and it doesn't matter how much the plain-as-day writings of James Madison and Tenche Cox and Patrick Henry and Noah Webster and Richard Henry Lee have to be twisted to get them to this result. Meantime, how has the left -- which continually insists it has no desire to actually ban firearms in private hands -- responded to Mr. Ashcroft's pitifully moderate stance? There now arises from among their midst a cacophony of outraged shrieks and bellows the like of which has not been heard since an equally timid Republican insurgency asserted in 1994 that perhaps, just maybe, an owner whose property had been reduced to worthlessness by environmental regulations might be entitled to some compensation under the Fifth Amendment's "takings" clause. The prediction of the Reactionary Left at the time -- that this would lead to the paving-over of paradise -- does not seem to have come to fruition. (In fact, the federal government now rules millions more acres off limits to the private citizen than ever before.) This time from the socialist fringe, the leaders of the victim disarmament movement shriek that if Mr. Ashcroft succeeds in getting the FBI to destroy records of their gun-buyer "instant background checks" as soon as they're completed -- precisely as the gun grabbers assured us they would, back when they were promoting their precious "Brady Bill" -- why, it will "eviscerate the ability of law enforcement officials to prevent fraud and illegal gun sales by unscrupulous dealers to straw purchasers." Why? Because "instant checks" are worthless? How many illegal sales are permitted by the "instant check" but then tracked down, 89 days later? And how do we know these records are really being destroyed after 90 days, anyway? Has any FBI agent ever been led away in handcuffs and locked up in Leavenworth for retaining such a record for, say, 150 days? Is such an outcome even conceivable? By writing a letter to the National Rifle Association, rejecting the argument that the Second protects only a " 'collective' right of the states to maintain militias," Mr. Ashcroft has shown "disloyalty to his client, the United States, and an impermissible conflict of interest," charge U.S. Sens. Edward M. Kennedy and Charles E. Schumer, in an article published in the July 21 Boston Globe. Disloyalty to the United States? By reading out the plain English of the Bill of Rights? Are Sens. Kennedy and Schumer now taking a page from the late Sen. Joe McCarthy? As to this "collective right" nonsense, let us merely imagine any elected official in these United States asserting with a straight face that the Freedom of the Press is a "collective right" which can be properly exercised only by each state governor naming and funding one "official newspaper" for his state -- operated under his personal command and control -- whereupon it will not infringe the so-called "Freedom of the Press" in the slightest way if private individuals attempting to own and operate their own, competing printing presses are arrested and thrown in jail. After all, it's not written down that it's an "individual" right? So it must be a "collective" right ... right? "In a series of stealth measures and after private communication with the gun lobby, Attorney General John Ashcroft is quietly taking steps to erode the very gun laws he has sworn under oath to defend," thunder the rape enablers Kennedy and Schumer, conveniently provided by the U.S. government with all the armed bodyguards they desire, even as they would incrementally disarm the rest of us. In his May 17 letter to the NRA, the ruffled senators squawk, "Ashcroft also articulated a new standard for evaluating gun laws, proposing to require that any restriction on gun ownership be supported by a compelling state interest -- a test that very few laws can survive." What an interesting acknowledgment -- that few of the infringements on the Bill of Rights promoted by Sens. Schumer and Kennedy could withstand this simple test, demanding that some "compelling state interest" be shown for further erosion of our rights. In fact, every existing "gun control" laws is unwise, unconstitutional and counterproductive. Counties which allow law-abiding private citizens to go armed have seen their rates of violent crime drop markedly, as documented by Dr. John Lott of Yale in his fine, peer-reviewed book "More Guns, Less Crime." Sens. Kennedy and Schumer are on the losing end of this debate over individual liberties. They have nothing left in their arsenal but foot-stomping, hog-bellowing, feigned outrage and manufactured fear. And their overreaction to Mr. Ashcroft's extremely modest pronouncements shows that they know it. Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Subscribe to his monthly newsletter by sending $72 to Privacy Alert, 561 Keystone Ave., Suite 684, Reno, NV 89503 -- or dialing 775-348-8591. 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The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: TIPS ON STAYING SAFE AND ALIVE...FOR WOMEN (fwd) Date: 28 Jul 2001 13:37:18 -0700 This could be a good, "freeby", for us to pass around in the, "PR wars". It has however, little advice about firearms. I suggest this lack be corrected before use, and submit the following paragraph as a possible starting point. Your turn. A gun is not a magic wand. You can't wave one around and start playing, "Simon Sez". Attrempting to do so just tells them that even with a gun, you're still afraid of them, and likely afraid to pull the trigger, as well. If you have to pull it, use it. If you have to use it, keep it pointed at their middle, and keep pulling the trigger until they, "faw down go boom". Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 10:51 AM > From: Julie > > Karate classes teach that the elbow is the strongest point on your > body. If you are close enough to use it, do! > > If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail > lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. > The driver won't see you but everybody else will. This has saved lives. > > Last night I attended a personal safety workshop, and it jolted me. It was > given by an amazing man, Pat Malone, who has been a body guard for famous > figures like Farrah Fawcett and Sylvester Stallone. He works for the FBI, > and teaches police officers and Navy SEALS hand-to-hand combat.This man has > seen it all, and knows a lot. He focused his teachings to us on HOW TO > AVOID BEING THE VICTIM OF A VIOLENT CRIME. He gave us some statistics > about how much the occurrences of random violence have escalated over the > recent years, and it's terrible. > > Something like 99% of us will be exposed to, or become a victim of a > violent crime. Here are some of the most important points that I got out > of his presentation: > > (1.) The three reasons women are easy targets for random acts of violence are: > > (a.) Lack of Awareness: You MUST know where you are & what's going on > around you. > > (b.) Body Language: Keep your head up, swing your arms, stand straight up. > > (c.) Wrong Place, Wrong Time: DON'T walk alone in an alley, or drive in a > bad neighborhood at night. > > (2.) Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, > working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc.). > DON'T DO THIS! The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect > opportunity for him to get in the passenger side, put a gun to your head, > and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS > AND LEAVE. > > (a.) A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking > garage: Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger > side floor, and in the back seat. > > (b.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger > door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their > vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars. > > (c.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the > passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, > you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman > to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (Better > paranoid than dead.) > > (3.) ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are > horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot). > > (a.) Do not get on an elevator if there is a weirdo already on there. > (Of course bad men don't always look bad). > > (b.) Do not stand back in the corners of the elevator; be near the front, > by the doors, ready to get off or on. > > (c.) If you get on the elevator on the 25th floor, and the Boogie Man gets > on the 22nd, get off when he gets on and wait for another elevator. > > (4) If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! > > (a.) Police make only 4 of 10 shots when they are in range of 3-9 > feet. This is due to stress. > > (b.) The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times. > And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN! > > (5.) As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP IT! It may get > you raped, or killed. > > (a.) Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good looking, well-educated man, > who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with > a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his > vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim. > > (b.) Pat Malone told us the story of his daughter, who came out of the mall > and was walking to her car when she noticed 2 older ladies in front of > her. Then she saw a police car come towards her with cops who said > hello. She also noticed that all 8 handicap spots in the area were > empty. As she neared her car she saw a man a few rows over calling to her > for help. He wanted her to close his passenger side door. He was sitting > in the driver's side, and said he was handicapped. He continued calling, > until she turned and headed back to the mall, and then he began cursing at > her. In the meantime, she wondered why he didn't ask the 2 older ladies, or > the policeman for help, and why he was not parked in any of the empty handicap > spots. As she got back to the mall, two male friends of hers were exiting, > and as she told them the story, and turned to point at the car, the man was > in the back seat, and quickly moved back to the front and sped away. > > DON'T GET CAUGHT IN THIS TRAP. > > (6.). Tips to saving your life, if you have gotten into a violent situation: > > (a.) REACT IMMEDIATELY. If he abducts you in a parking lot, and is taking > you to an abandoned area, DON'T LET HIM GET YOU TO THAT AREA. If you are > driving, react immediately in the situation, and crash your car while still > going 5 mph. If he's driving, find the right time, and stick your fingers > in his eyes. He must watch the road, so choose an unsuspecting time, and > gouge him. It is your ONLY defense. While he is in shock, GET OUT. > (This sounds gross, but the alternative is your fault if you do not act.) > > (b.) RESIST. Don't go along with him: run, if you are able: DON'T EVER > GIVE UP! You DO NOT want to get to a crime scene. > > (7.) Always keep your distance when walking past strangers on the street or > in dark areas. > > (8.) BREAK DOWNS: Make every effort to avoid this by ALWAYS keeping your > car in good working order. > > (a.) If your car breaks down and you have a cell phone: LOCK YOUR DOORS. > Then call for help. > > (b.) If it's noon on a business day in a populated area, you may want to > put your hazards on and walk to safety. > > (c.) If it's 2am near a populated area, put on your warm clothes, and walk > to a lighted area. You are a perfect target if you are sitting in your car > when it's broken down. Predators search the highways for easy targets like > you. > > (d.) If you're on a desolate road: walk away from the car (in your warm > clothes) and go to some bushes, or some area AWAY from your vehicle. It > will be cold, and uncomfortable, but you DO NOT want to stay in your car, > and there are no psycho bogeymen waiting in the bushes who just knew you > were going to break down there and then. > > (9.) Physical defenses that we can use against the violent predator: > > (a.) The EYES are the most vulnerable part of the body. Poke him there. > HARD. It may be your only window of opportunity. > > (b.) The neck is also a vulnerable spot, but you MUST know where to grip, > AND HAVE THE STRENGTH to cut off his breath. > > (c.) The last place is the KNEES. Everyone's knees are very vulnerable, > and a swift kick here will take anyone down. > > -- A cautionary note about these things. If you do not do these things > right the first time, you are in trouble, because it will only anger the > individual, and that anger will be TAKEN OUT ON YOU. I'm not saying don't > attempt them (it may be your only hope), but be forceful when you do. > > (10.) If you are walking alone in the dark (which you shouldn't be) and you > find him following/chasing you: > > (a.) Scream "FIRE!", and not, "Help!". People don't want to get involved > when people yell "help," but "fire" draws attention because people are nosy. > > (b.) RUN! > > (c.) Find an obstacle, such as a parked car, and run around it, like Ring > Around the Rosie. This may sound silly, but over the years, 5 women have > told Pat Malone that this SAVED THEIR LIVES. > > (d.) Your last hope is getting under the car. Once you are under there, > there are tons of things to hold on to, and he will not be able to get you > out unless he comes under after you (which makes it easier for you to > escape or fend him off). Usually they give up by this point. The catch > here is that YOU MUST PRACTICE GETTING UNDER THE CAR. You must have a plan > (he will have one); know if you will be going on your back, front, from the > side or back of the car. It must be practiced. > > (11.) Never let yourself or anyone that you know be a "closer" in any type > of business (bar, store, restaurant, gas station). Pat knew Danielle, who > was a girl that just died from being shot pointblank by some kids while she > was closing at the local gas station. He talked with her the night before > she died, and asked whether it ever scared her to close alone. > She said yes, but said, "I'll be all right, Pat. I'll be all right." She > wasn't. > > Our world is not as safe as we pretend that it is, and living in our > fantasy worlds WILL get us in trouble, sooner or later. Pat Malone said, > again and again, that the women who die EVERY MINUTE from violent crime > expected to go to bed tonight, and get up tomorrow = No one expects it, we > must but be prepared and be aware so that we HAVE A PLAN. BE PREPARED TO > ACT! AND ACT HARD! HAVE A PLAN! > > I would encourage you to pass this on to all women, not just your friends > and family, but everybody. We all need to hear it. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Fiedor Report on the News (fwd) Date: 28 Jul 2001 22:30:40 -0700 Fiedor Report on the News A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia July 29, 2001 #238 by: Doug Fiedor dfiedor@home.com Previous Editions at: http://209.15.142.23/reports/headsup/list-hu.htm CARTER VS. BUSH Eight years of total sleaze with the Clinton administration and nary a peep from him. Now we get a President who displays some honor and integrity and out pops Jimmy Carter. Remember Jimmy? He volunteers to pound nails but back in the days of skyrocketing inflation and long lines at gas stations, Jimmy Carter was president (small "p"). Last week, Richard Hyatt and Serajul I. Bhuiyan of Knight Ridder reported that Carter criticized Bush's performance.(1) They write that "Jimmy Carter said he is disappointed in President Bush's performance in the Oval Office and said the first-term Republican has ignored moderates in both parties -- including Secretary of State Colin Powell." That's funny, actually. Jimmy Carter is a socialist. He tried to micromanage our economy and made such a mess of it that it took the Reagan Administration two years and the largest tax cut in history to get things running half way decent again. Carter gave away so much to foreigners that the balance of trade favored nearly everyone in the world but us, which further drained our economy. Then, he actually had gall enough to stand up and ask us to elect him to a second term. So now Jimmy wants Dubya to genuflect at the alter of domestic socialism like he did. "I thought he would be a moderate leader," Carter said, "but he has been very strictly conforming to some of the more conservative members of his administration -- his vice president [Dick Cheney] and his secretary of defense [Donald Rumsfeld] in particular. More moderate people like Colin Powell have been frozen out of the basic decision-making in dealing with international affairs." Carter actually thinks of himself as a "moderate" rather then a socialist meddler. But, unfortunately, he still doesn't seem to know his posterior orifice from the proverbial hole in the ground. "Moderates" were once "centrists," the middle of the road bunch. And the middle of the road is where they keep the yellow lines. There are not many of that breed left in Washington. Those who call themselves "moderate" today (in both parties) are nothing more than garden variety socialists. "I hoped that coming out of an uncertain election he would reach out to people of diverse views, not just Democrats and Republicans but others who had different points of view," Carter said. Different points of view like who? Socialist leader Tony Blair, maybe? Or perhaps he expects President Bush to kowtow to the far-left in Congress, like Daschel and Gephardt. Look at the difference in results. With Carter's energy crisis we had a mess for a couple years. The Clinton administration also totally screwed up the energy industry and President Bush inherited it. Unlike Carter's disastrous brand of socialism, Dubya simply said he was going to fix it and the industry suddenly responded. Because President Bush is a man of his word, the energy industry knew he would act. Suddenly, boardrooms across the country (and around the world) snapped to attention. Immediately, the excuses stopped and more oil and electrical power mysteriously materialized. All of a sudden, fuel prices began to drop and even California may have power to sell. That's leadership. There was no equivocation with the Bush team. The President set the tone: 'This is unacceptable and we need to act right away.' The Captain's of industry replied by immediately correcting the (contrived) "problem" before the Bush Administration had time to tinker with any laws. The result is that we will not have an energy crisis again while Bush is President. Just the opposite, in fact. If they begin drilling in even half of the new places mentioned, we will have plenty of fuel for the next couple decades. By then, the internal combustion engine will be phased out. When Jimmy Carter was playing like a president, on the other hand, he managed to aggravate all the oil producing countries so much we were lucky they were willing to send us any oil. Carter's administration was a fine example of one thing, though: The Peter Principle Personified. We thought we hired an engineer but what we got was a constant tinkerer with all thumbs. So, when Carter called the missile defense system proposed by Dubya "technologically ridiculous," saying "I think it will re-escalate the nuclear arms race," we know President Bush is exactly correct. Ditto when Carter calls the administration's efforts in the Middle East "fruitless." In short, Jimmy, go back to pounding nails and stay out of politics. 1. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b5dcc773ea5.htm LIBERTY vs. COMPUTERIZED DRIVING The computer age is here and that's good. That is, it is good as long as people use the computers properly. When used improperly, computer technology can be a blatant violation of our liberty and privacy rights. Placing computer controlled video cameras at stop lights to catch those committing an infraction of a civil violation (running a red light) is a clear violation of liberty. That is little more than the creation of a new revenue stream by a municipality. In most states, a peace officer must actually see a civil infraction in order to write a ticket. But, courts are already wrongly accepting fines from "violators" caught only by cameras anyway, just to collect money. Now comes the concept of the "artificial passenger."(1) This one is kind of cute, actually. The problem is, it clearly opens the door for a very serious violation of our privacy by aggressive bureaucrats. The "artificial passenger" is the brainstorm of IBM scientists who evidently had a lot of free time on their hands. It comes as part of the "smart dashboard" concept automakers are considering to make automobile driving more convenient. For normal driving, the system will just lurk in the dashboard, watching. The "artificial passenger" will continually analyze the reaction of drivers -- speech, movement, etc. -- for signs of sleepiness. One way the "artificial passenger" will test the driver is by initiating conversations and monitoring the responses. The conversational cues would be created by first constructing a profile of a driver's likes and dislikes stored in an artificial intelligence database. The system would use a camera to watch the mouth of a driver and fine tune its speech recognition system to look for slurred speech. If there are signs of sleepiness, the artificial passenger would do a series of things, like asking startling questions, changing the radio station and even squirting water in the face to insure the driver is alert. No word yet if the artificial passenger system would phone home, too. But we've got five bucks to bet that the system would be maintaining a database for "accident investigation use." Which means, it would not be very long before bureaucrats and judges want an addition to stop drunk drivers, unlicensed drivers and a host of other such foolishness. That slippery slope could quickly lead down to a situation where one's automobile would turn them into police for any number of infractions. Perhaps the computer could even be used to contact police for speeding and reckless driving violations. Or, they could set driving time limits on automobile drivers as they do with long distance truckers and the computer could enforce the regulations automatically. Actually, this could be Big Brother at its best. The potential abuses of this artificial passenger computer system are only subject to the limits of the imagination. And police, prosecutors, judges and minor bureaucrats seem to have a very active imagination when the topic is the monitoring of the American people. For that reason, we look for a cottage industry of software and hardware additions to develop rather quickly. But that's not to say that this new technology could not be used for great benefit. Being from Detroit, I have had many conversations with electronic research engineers from the "big three" auto manufacturers. One system that has been nearly ready to go for many years would have the automobile automatically follow a wire in the highway. Information for speed, conditions and curves would be provided to the automobile and most interstate highway "driving" would be semiautomatic. Along with that system, sensors on the front and rear of the automobile would control the distance between cars and automatically apply the breaks if something gets in front of the car. Unfortunately, though, that would not help much if danger comes from the sides. The downside to that technology was the cost. The system was invented in the 1970s when computer systems were very expensive. But, that's not true anymore and that update would only cost a few hundred dollars today. If that system were integrated with a slightly updated version of the artificial passenger system, interstate highway driving could be more of a joy than a task. All the little computer systems would tend to keep traffic flowing at maximum speeds. Or . . . everyone would get the "Blue Screen of Death" at one time and all traffic would be halted until everyone stops long enough to reboot. That seems to be an interesting possibility, of course. 1. http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991039 WORLD COURT TESTS OUR COURTS Generally speaking, I'm a peaceful sort of guy. Grumpy once in a while, maybe. But peaceful, anyway. As a kid, I was taught boxing, Judo and the proper use of firearms, but no one except a violent attacker ever had to worry about me using any of that in public. It wasn't always that way, though. The Army got me for a few years and taught me very effective ways to kill people and destroy things. Then, they sent us forth and said to go do it. Still, it didn't take more than a couple days to get re-civilized again. By the time I was done celebrating getting back home in one piece, it was time to think about school, job and a place to live. Life immediately got active and there was no time to dwell on that past Army experience anymore. Nonetheless, I did learn something very important from military service. For one thing, I took the Oath of Office, promising God and country that "I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic" two different times. That was serious stuff to me and I meant it. As I look up those words again, I see there is no time limit on them. Presumably, I am still bound by that Oath. So, let's say, I know that some foreign government or concern has plans to come over here and kidnap an American citizen. It appears that my Oath might require me to act to put a halt to that. Kidnapping, after all, is a major felony. Which means, I may freely use whatever force is necessary to stop that act. That also means that every other person in the country who has ever taken that Oath would also be bound to take some such action to stop that crime. Well, here's the rub. On June 28, Betsy Pisik of the Washington Times(1) reported that the International Court of Justice(2) "in its most explicit language" said that its "orders are binding on U.S. and other national courts." According to the ICJ, their orders supersede our courts. The one world government crowd says that the ICJ hears disputes between nations and its decisions are considered binding. The decisions can only be appealed through the U.N. Security Council. Our courts do not count. The statutes of the International Court of Justice may be found, as one might imagine, on the United Nation's web site. In appears they are in cahoots and the International Court of Justice is the start of the court system for the new world government.(3) The ICJ is also known as the World Court. They order that our country may not charge citizens of other countries who violate our laws without notifying (asking permission of?) officials from the perpetrator's country of origin. Arizona tried and convicted a German national for murder. He got the death penalty. Germany got all bent out of shape about that and protested in the World Court based in the Hague. The World Court took it upon itself to issue an injunction ordering Arizona not to execute him until it could make a final ruling on the matter. Arizona executed the murder as scheduled, the following day. Actually that happened before, too. In one case, Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright appealed to the Supreme Court to halt an execution of someone convicted of rape and murder in Virginia. Virginia also executed the murder as scheduled. Generally, this was just an excuse for the new World Court to stretch its wings, act a little aggressive and test the waters. The European Union forbids the death penalty, so that seemed like a good place to start. The problem is, now they say that Germany might sue Arizona and the United States in this bogus World Court. So, the dismantling of our Constitutional system of government has begun. Outside forces are attempting to overrule our Constitution. This is something we must not take lightly! The problem will require an active political fight to correct. No system in the world should ever be allowed to overrule our court system. The communists, socialists and fascists on the U.N. Security Council must never be allowed to take any action that can affect the Liberty of the American people. To start, we must get the U.N. out of the United States and the United States out of the U.N. Else, our way of life will be forever lost. 1. http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b3b166a2599.htm 2. http://www.icj-cij.org 3. http://www.un.org/Overview/Statute/contents.html ~ End ~ -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Citizens' Self Defense Bill # HR 31 (fwd) Date: 28 Jul 2001 22:31:34 -0700 >Citizens' Self-Defense >Bill # H.R.31 > >Original Sponsor: >Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD 6th) > >Sponsor/Cosponsor Total: 66 >(last sponsor added 07/11/2001) > 11 Democrats > 1 Independents > 54 Republicans > >About This Legislation: >Two and a half million times a year, Americans use firearms to defend >themselves, their homes, and their families against criminal threats. >Sadly, the anti-gun zealotry of some liberal jurisdictions is so >extreme that prosecutors are more intent on punishing the armed >victim than the predatory criminal. > >H.R. 31 -- Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 2001, introduced by Maryland >Congressman Roscoe Bartlett, would reaffirm the right to use a >firearm to protect yourself, your family, and your home. As such, it >would preempt any state or local statute or decision seeking to limit >that Second Amendment right. > >Furthermore, H.R. 31 would allow aggrieved gun owners to bring an >action against local officials for damages, injunctive relief and >such other relief as the court deems appropriate. > >Jurisdictions (such as Texas) which have expanded the rights of >citizens to use firearms to defend themselves have uniformly >witnessed dramatic drops in homicide and crime rates. > >By emboldening gun owners to maintain and carry firearms for self- >defense, H.R. 31 would be a major step toward reducing crime and >reaffirming the constitutional principles articulated by our >country's founders. > > >Detailed, up-to-date bill status information on H.R.31. >http://capwiz.com/liberty /issues/bills/?bill=28020 > >Sponsor list >http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/bi lls/?bill=28020&cs_party=all&cs_status=C&cs_state=ALL > >Contact your elected officials > >http://capwiz.com/liberty/dbq/offic ials/ > -- Hugh Emerson -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Students face controversial new lunch-line technology (fwd) Date: 29 Jul 2001 12:18:14 -0700 >From : "joe6pk" Let's "face it"; George Orwell should have been buried "face down" a long time ago in this country! Citizen "joe 6pk" Amer I CAN/ face voice recognition http://www.eschoolnews.com/showstory.cfm?ArticleID=2839 Students face controversial new lunch-line technology By Cara Branigan, Assistant Editor, eSchool News July 24, 2001 Starting this fall, some students will buy their lunch simply by looking at a web camera in the school cafeteria and saying their name, thanks to a food service company that is tapping face and voice recognition technology. The most prevalent biometric authentication used in schools today is fingerprint scanning, but companies such as Food Service Solutions Inc. say they want to avoid the stigma attached to fingerprinting-especially in schools. "You bring up the word 'fingerprinting,' and there's a connotation," said Mitch Johns, president of Food Service Solutions. In real life and on television, only "bad guys" are fingerprinted after being arrested by the police, Johns said. "We feel like we're a leader in bringing new technology to the market, and we feel the new system is a more acceptable device," he said. Some of Food Service's school clients do use fingerprint technology in the cafeteria, but according to feedback from these schools, fingerprinting is still too slow, Johns said. Even though the students don't have to fumble with change or swipe a card with their personal identification number (PIN), they still have to stop and touch the fingerprint reader. With face and voice recognition, students merely position themselves in front of a web camera attached to computer monitor and say their name or any chosen word. Reportedly, the computer identifies the students instantly and deducts the meals from their accounts. "For our system, it takes less then two seconds for the whole process," said Jeffrey Buechler, director of sales for BioID America Inc., the company that has partnered with Food Service Solutions on the system. BioID's biometric authentication software recognizes a user's face, voice, and lip movement simultaneously. "It measures speed, direction, and flow as you are speaking," Buechler said. "We take lots of points around your face and measure how they move." To enroll, the student looks at the camera and says his or her name three times for verification. "If I'm saying 'Jeffrey,' I say my name the same way every time," Buechler said. The software can be set up to add a new recording daily, weekly, or monthly to compensate for students' growth spurts, Buechler said. Students can opt out if they want to; it's completely voluntary. Like other biometric authentication technologies, face- and voice-recognition technology lets students buy meals at school without cash, passwords, or meal tickets. It also prevents students who participate in the free or reduced-priced lunch program from being identified. "It will definitely reduce the stigma attached to subsidized lunch programs. No one will know," Buechler said. Johns said voice recognition keeps pass cards from being forgotten, stolen, or lost. It also remedies the problem of students giving out their PINs. "Our technology enables kids to get their meals without a password, without PINs, and without cards. There's absolutely nothing for a child to pass to another child," Buechler said. It's also an easier system for young students. "If you have a kindergarten student, you have to teach them and train them to remember and use the number," Johns said. If students fool around or try to beat the system, they just won't get lunch. "You have to want to get authenticated. I could put my hand over my face, but then I wouldn't be identified," Buechler said. "They only have 45 minutes for lunch. I don't think they'll fool around that much." Privacy concerns BioID's face and voice recognition system "is unlike other biometrics systems in that it protects users' privacy," Buechler said. An algorithm built into the software program prevents the data from being used for anything else. "It's taking a photograph and breaking it down into ones and zeroes using a special algorithm, so there's no actual recording kept," Buechler said. But privacy advocates say face- and voice-recognition technologies raise even greater privacy concerns-and the less information you give to others, the better. "Privacy advocates always follow the idea that one should minimize the amount of data about oneself held by other parties," said Chris Hoofnagle, legislative counsel for the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC). According to Hoofnagle, there's not much schools can do to keep this kind of data from the police. "Undoubtedly, law enforcement will enter and ask the school for the student data as soon as a crime occurs," he said. Earlier this year, at Super Bowl XXXV in Tampa, police used face-recognition technology to match mug shots of wanted criminals with people in the crowd. In a nightlife section of Tampa, called Ybor City, police have set up surveillance so they can continually match people's faces to their archive of wanted criminals. Hoofnagle worries that by using this technology in school, children will become accustomed to it and will give out this kind of personal information without thinking twice. If they grow up using this technology, perhaps they won't question why the grocery store and government offices use it as well. "With the use of biometrics, you begin to breed children that are used to the system," Hoofnagle said. "Especially when you start with young people, you can easily begin to [develop] a surveillance state." Johns doesn't consider this to be an issue in a school setting, because students choose to use the system and are aware that the scanning is taking place. "In my opinion, giving over [your social security number] can cause far more damage than being in a school lunch line," Johns said. "This type of technology is already here, and its use is going to be more prevalent." Eventually, Johns said, Food Service Solutions will expand the use of voice- and face-recognition technology to the library and for taking attendance. Before that happens, the company will see how students respond to the technology. "We will be looking for acceptance from the students, because they are going to have to use it," Johns said. Links: BioID America Inc. http://www.bioid.com Food Service Solutions Inc. http://www.foodserve.com Electronic Privacy Information Center http://www.epic.org -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Watson Subject: FRN Cruise invitation to OA (fwd) Date: 31 Jul 2001 11:56:17 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Rock The Boat! Free Republic Network Cruise to the Bahamas The Free Republic Network is sponsoring a cruise to the Bahamas October 15-19 2001. The cruise will include workshops and seminars featuring David Horowitz, author of Radical Son. The purpose of the cruise it to "Light the Fires" of Conservatism - to educate, motivate and activate. For more information and registration, go to this website: http://www.angelfire.com/sc2/frcruise/ Be sure to state that you are with Free Republic to get the best deal possible and to help promote the Free Republic Network. The Free Republic Network - What Is It? (by Bob J - President of the FRN) The Free Republic Forum has always been an ad hoc community of loose knit groups interested in education, discussion and debate on significant social and policy issues in America. Out of this group has arisen those who wish to move their involvement a step further and take positive action to change the social fabric of America. This is evidenced not only by organizations that have been born largely out of the Forum, like SAS and Operation America, but also the formation of dozens of FR Chapters to organize our human potential to address change on a local and state, as well as national level. It became obvious that we needed a centralizing organization, not to dictate to groups and chapters what their goals should be, but to assist them in developing into into successful and effective organizations. Out of this need the Free republic Network was created. The mission of the FRN is to provide operational, legal, communication and networking services to our chapters and groups to assist them in accomplishing their goals. Although it is in it's embryonic stage right now, so far we have been able to provide a website and bulletin board where individual groups can privately meet, discuss issues and organize...far from the glare of the Forum. To date, the FRN has approximately 60 Chapters and special interest groups and about 2000 members. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Is The Game Over? Then Let's Start Shooting..... (fwd) Date: 31 Jul 2001 10:27:44 -0700 Of course snail mail does tend to be more effective. Of course we should send to our Democrat critters as well, saying, "Ok, _proce_ that you're now Pro-Gun!" Subj: Is The Game Over? Either Turn Bush Around on Second Amendment, or the Game is Over. https://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID3D2283 by Brian Puckett President, Citizens of America The unconstitutional law banning import and manufacture of certain militia rifles (so-called "assault weapons") and magazines holding over 10 cartridges, passed by the Democrats and a few worthless Republicans in 1994, will expire in 2004. Incredibly, George W. Bush says he is in favor of continuing it, and incredibly, John Ashcroft says he will enforce this unconstitutional law. While George Bush and John Ashcroft occasionally support the Second Amendment, and are certainly better than Bill Clinton and most Democrats, their practice of helping gun owners in one area while seriously hurting them in another is unacceptable. It was GUN OWNERS who put Mr. Bush in office, and he is stabbing them in the back with his support of the '94 militia rifle/magazine ban. I doubt the current NRA management will raise an outcry over this betrayal, seeing that they have taken that organization from trying to prevent or repeal unconstitutional gun laws to calling for their strict enforcement, thereby joining hands with Handgun Control Incorporated, or whatever they're called this week. It is an absolute OUTRAGE that the federal government -- which is basically nothing more than a temporary collection of our employees, including George Bush -- is enforcing an edict banning the very firearms that the Second Amendment implies, via the militia clause, are the most important. That is, rifles suitable for military (militia) use. Gun owners absolutely must grasp the political reality clearly expressed by "Morgan", who runs http://www.CitizenSpokane.com, which is: There is no such thing as gun control, only incremental gun prohibition. Gun owners absolutely must grasp another political reality, which is: Allowing the government to get away with dictating the features of SOME guns sets the judicial, legislative, and psychological precedent for allowing them to dictate the features of ALL guns. It is an absolute OUTRAGE that the government (including George Bush) is telling you and me, as though we were idiot children playing with toys, that our ammunition feeding devices cannot hold more than 10 cartridges. Where did this number come from? Answer: Nowhere. It's arbitrary. What's to prevent it from being arbitrarily reduced to 8? Or 4? Answer: Nothing. The semi-automatic rifles currently banned by the federal government are no different in basic form and function from all other semi-automatic rifles. So if these banned semi-automatic rifles are bad for society (as the ban clearly implies), then wouldn't it be best if all semi-automatic and/or high-capacity rifles and shotguns were banned? Think it can't happen? Ask gun owners in Australia, where they can't even own a pump shotgun these days. It happened. The Democrats are pushing now to ban .50 BMG caliber rifles, which have been legal to own and shoot for about 80 years. You don't care? You will care when precisely the same rationale for banning it (too big, too powerful, no one real needs a caliber/cartridge/bullet that big) is used to ban all .50+ caliber cartridges and bullets, including black powder. You will care when precisely the same rationale is extended to ban your .458 Winchester Magnum, and then your .375 Weatherby Magnum, and then your .30-'06. Think it can't happen? Take a look at wretched England. It happened. And the ban on normal capacity magazines? If magazines holding 11 rounds are bad for society (as the ban clearly implies) then wouldn't it be better if we reduced the capacity to 5 rounds instead of 10? Think it couldn't happen here? Let me ask you something -- did you ever imagine that the federal government would prohibit you, an adult American citizen, from buying, selling, or manufacturing a new firearm magazine holding 11 rounds or more? It happened. Just a reminder: George Bush thinks that's a good idea, let's keep that ban. John Ashcroft says fine, he'll enforce that ban. So much for the Constitution as the "supreme law of the land," so much for the Second Amendment, so much for "infringed". We must start right now in pressuring Bush to let that 1994 ban on our rights DIE, and we must keep up the pressure. We must let Bush and the Republican party know that if they don't support our rights we will either refuse to go to the polls or we will vote for a third party. If that idea terrifies you, then you don't understand politicians. They understand one thing -- votes. If you give them your vote even when they sell you out, they'll keep selling you out. You cannot send a more powerful message to a politician or a political party than either refusing to vote--and telling them why--or voting for someone else--and telling them why. Don't believe me? Then why has the Republican party folded on principle after principle, becoming the "Democrat Lite" party? It's because you kept voting for them even when they worked against you. If we had stopped doing that ten or fifteen years ago, the Republican party would be working for you, instead of letting you know the terms of their latest sellout to the Democrats. Let's not keep repeating this same mistake, hoping for a different result. There are real, but narrow, windows of opportunity to change government policy by raising hell, but you must act during those times, not complain to your friends. For example, the Bush administration recently floated a "trial balloon" regarding giving amnesty for illegal immigrants. A storm of email, letters and phone calls to the president and Congress shot the idea down for the foreseeable future. That is exactly what gun owners need to do -- starting right now and continuing during the coming months -- regarding the insulting, outrageous 1994 Clinton/Democrat ban on militia rifles, on ergonomic features such as flash hiders and pistol grips, and on normal-capacity magazines. Here's your starter kit. Don't use this information once and forget it. Write it on a piece of paper, keep it visibly posted, and use it repeatedly until 2004 when Mr. Bush wants us gun owners to put him back in the White House. Sure, we'll do that, Mr. Bush -- providing you don't agree with the Democrats that we aren't allowed to have more that 10 rounds in our gun's magazine. Email President George Bush: president@whitehouse.gov Write President George Bush: President George Bush 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington, DC 20500 To email your congressman or senator, use this link: https://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/capitolwiz/ If you want another look at this situation, read "We May literally Have to Fight". Brian Puckett currently serves as president of Citizens Of America, which is running a national pro-gun rights advertising campaign supported by people like YOU. Go to: http://www.citizensofamerica.org. [Forwarded For Information Purposes Only - Not Necessarily Endorsed By The Sender - A.K. Pritchard] A.K. Pritchard http://www.ideasign.com/chiliast/ To subscribe to "The Republican" email list - just ask! therepublican@ideasign.com "Oh, my countrymen! What will our children say, when they read the history of these times? Should they find we tamely gave away without one noble struggle, the most invaluable of earthly blessings? As they drag the galling chain, will they not execrate us? If we have any respect for things sacred; any regard to the dearest treasures on earth; if we have one tender sentiment for posterity; if we would not be despised by the whole world - let us in the most open, solemn manner, and with determined fortitude, swear we will die, if we cannot live free men!" Josiah Quincy, Jr., 1788 published in the Boston Gazette -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: URGENT! Klamath Falls Convoys (fwd) Date: 31 Jul 2001 11:23:01 -0700 Citizens, patriots, please route and help the Klamath Falls bankrupt farmers and citizens. Join the convoys from your state and bring them food, clothing etc. See locations below! Bring your families, and help save our American farm families, land and water. Send this to your local press, radio and tv stations in your cities. Char Carter, Monterey, CA Citizens, patriots, please route and help the Klamath Falls bankrupt farmers and citizens.  Join the convoys from your state and bring them food, clothing etc. See locations below! Bring your families, and help save our American farm families,  land and water.  Send this to your local press, radio and tv stations in your cities. Carter, Monterey, CA There are several posts this morning regarding property and how it is being taken from us. I am posting this out to the list and will post the rest to the message board in order to save on the Email volume. Please check the board for new postings and for regular updates on the Klamath Falls situation check out the following web pages: http://www.klamathbasincrisis.org/ http://www.sierratimes.com/ http://klamath.50megs.com/ Jackie Juntti WGEN idzrus@earthlink.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: <4CFDA6F626F@localhost> Per your request Jackie, here are three articles concerning the upcoming convoys to Klamath. As more information is available it will be posted to the following site: Klamath Relief http://klamath.50megs.com The Montana convoy will be coming through Clarkston and Walla Walla on its way to The Dalles. Anyone else from Washington should probably plan to join up at The Dalles. Steve Washam ELKO DAILY FREE PRESS Another Brigade July 26, 2001 By JEFFRY MULLINS Shovel Brigade members and other volunteers are planning to help farmers in the Klamath Basin by holding a traveling auction and constructing a giant steel bucket for the Bucket Brigade. "They flew over and asked us if we'd help coordinate it," Elko attorney Grant Gerber said. "They liked what we did at Jarbidge," he said, and they wanted a similar campaign for their battle against the federal government. Gerber called the government's decision to cut off their irrigation water "the greatest tragedy created so far by the radical environmental bureaucrats." He invited interested volunteers to attend an organizational meeting Friday at 7 p.m. at the Stockmen's Casino and Hotel. Auction items already are starting to roll in, including the gift of two bull calves from Dr. Cal Lewis. Other items being sought include horses, cattle, hay, gasoline, antiques, tractors, cars, pickups, guns, snowmobiles, professional services, boats, art, or anything else of value. Gerber said Assemblyman John Carpenter, R-Elko, and the rest of the group "brainstormed" and came up with the idea to build a giant bucket based on Elko's giant shovel. Elko Blacksmith Shop owner Jess Lopategui will again put his welding skills to work on the project. Gerber said Bucket Brigade organizer Joe Bair visited Elko Tuesday with some members of his group and said Elko was the most successful community they knew to confront the environmentalists. In return, "The Shovel Brigade has volunteered to help with the relief effort for the farm families, farm workers and others dependent on the farms at Klamath," said Shovel Brigade President Bob St. Louis. Interior Secretary Gale Norton's announcement this week that some water would be released to the farmers was "way too little, too late," Gerber said. "You've got to commend her for trying, though." It was the bold actions of the Klamath protesters cutting open the headgates that got Norton's attention, he said. The farmers are not going to be appeased by her gesture to release a small amount of water this late in the growing season. "This approach at appeasement is not going to work," Gerber said. "They're going to get their water." With no cash crops planted in their fields, farmers still face economic hardships this year and the prospect of no water next year. Instead, fish species listed as "threatened" under the Endangered Species Act have been given priority for the water supply in Upper Klamath Lake. *** http://www.dailyinterlake.com/news_lo3.stm Convoy to leave Kalispell Aug. 18 for Oregon The Daily Inter Lake A relief convoy to farmers in Klamath Falls, Ore., will leave Kalispell at 9 a.m. on Aug. 18, organizers announced Thursday. Vehicles carrying supplies will travel through Lewiston, Idaho, arriving at a staging area in The Dalles, Ore., by Aug. 20, where they'll be joined by a convoy from the Elko, Nev., area. The convoy will arrive in Klamath Falls the evening of Aug. 20, where activities are planned all day Aug. 21 at the fairgrounds. The staging area in Kalispell will be at the Outlaw Inn. Area residents will carry livestock, feed, canned food and other supplies to Klamath Falls farmers and ranchers whose irrigation water has been shut off by the federal government to preserve sucker fish and coho salmon. More than 240,000 acres of ranch and crop land were cut off from irrigation water in April by the Bureau of Reclamation, which opted to reserve the water for the fish. About 20 percent of the normal water flow was released earlier this week, but farmers say it's too late to save their crops. Seven states are now involved in the relief effort, including Montana, California, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Washington and Wyoming. Locally, Tidyman's and Albertson's grocery stores in Kalispell will accept food and cash donations between 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. on Saturday, Aug. 4. Volunteers are needed to man donation tables for two-hour intervals and sell raffle tickets; anyone interested can call Jayne Strash at 756- 7426. For more information about the convoy, a list of drop-off sites for supplies, addresses for cash donations, map of the convoy route, call Strash or e-mail her at: jaynewhitney@yahoo.com; Cathy Aastrom at 257-6914 (e-mail: jmpnfish@hotmail.com) or check the KGEZ Web site at www.z600.com. *** TO: "Amador", INTERNET:brdon_a@sharetrails.org DATE: 7/27/01 3:48 PM RE: Copy of: News Release-BRC Joins Farm Aid Convoy BLUERIBBON COALITION, INC. NEWS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Don Amador - 925.625.6287 - BlueRibbon Coalition, Inc. - Email:brdon_a@sharetrails.org Grant Gerber - 775.738.2009 - Shovel/Bucket Brigade - Convoy/Auction Coordinator (Photo from Klamath headgate is avail. upon request) RECREATION GROUP JOINS KLAMATH FARM AID CONVOY -- SAYS ESA NEEDS OVERHAUL OAKLEY, CA -- The BlueRibbon Coalition is joining a growing effort to help farmers in the Klamath Basin who are being put out of business by the Endangered Species Act. Many recreation and multiple-use activities have also been banned or restricted because extreme anti-access groups are misusing the ESA to enact a political agenda that has little to do with science or protecting the environment. Dune-buggy and 4 wheel-drive riding areas in the desert Southwest have been closed to recreational users because of eco-lawsuits filed by preservationist groups to "protect" the Peirson's Milk-vetch. Beach access has been eliminated in California and Oregon because of the Western Snowy Plover. Cabin owners cannot gather downed trees for firewood in late successional reserves because of the Northern Spotted Owl. East Bay Regional Parks in the San Francisco Bay Area is just one lawsuit away from having to close camping areas because the California Red- Legged Frog was listed as an endangered species. Over 4 million acres have been listed as critical frog habitat because of a suit filed by the Center for Biodiversity. Don Amador, the western representative for the BlueRibbon Coalition, said, "I think it is important for the recreation community to lend support to the farmers who have been put out of work by a flawed ESA. The ESA needs a serious overhaul to bring some balance to the land-use equation. When 4th generation farmers are bankrupted because of an eco-lawsuit...something is terribly wrong." "All of us interested in responsible use of public and private lands should work together to protect access and property rights," Amador stated. "I would urge the Bush administration and Congress to take a hard look at the current ESA to see where corrections can be made so that 'people factors' can be included in the environmental equation. Balance must be found," Amador concludes. The Jarbidge Shovel Brigade is planning to help farmers in the Klamath Basin by staging three traveling auctions that will feature a giant steel bucket for the Bucket Brigade. On August 15, one convoy will leave Elko, Nevada and swing through the Pacific Northwest. The other group will start in the LA area and journey through the California Central Valley. A third caravan is leaving from Montana. All convoys are expected to arrive at Klamath Falls on August 21. # # # The BlueRibbon Coalition is a national recreation group that champions responsible use of public and private lands. It represents over 1,100 organizations and businesses with approximately 650,000 members. -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! -