From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: Citizens making data bases on government jack booted thugs (fwd) Date: 06 Jul 2003 13:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Will this really be useful? At this point I couldn't possibly guess, but..... Bill ----------------------- begin forwarded message from John Perna --------------------- http://opengov.media.mit.edu/ Website turns tables on government officials By Hiawatha Bray, Globe Staff, 7/4/2003 Annoyed by the prospect of a massive new federal surveillance system, two researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology are celebrating the Fourth of July with a new Internet service that will let citizens create dossiers on government officials. The system will start by offering standard background information on politicians, but then go one bold step further, by asking Internet users to submit their own intelligence reports on government officials -- reports that will be published with no effort to verify their accuracy. "It's sort of a citizen's intelligence agency," said Chris Csikszentmihalyi, assistant professor at the MIT Media Lab. He and graduate student Ryan McKinley created the Government Information Awareness (GIA) project as a response to the US government's Total Information Awareness program (TIA). Revealed last year, TIA seeks to track possible terrorist activity by analyzing vast amounts of information stored in government and private databases, such as credit card data. The system would use this information to analyze the actions of millions of people, in an effort to spot patterns that could indicate a terrorist threat. News of the plan outraged civil libertarians and prompted Congress to set limits on the scope of such activity. The Defense Department then renamed the program Terrorist Information Awareness, to ease public concern. But the controversy gave McKinley the idea for the GIA project. "If total information exists," he said, "really the same effort should be spent to make the same information at the leadership level at least as transparent -- in my opinion, more transparent." McKinley worked with Csikszentmihalyi to design the GIA system. It's partly based on technology used to create Internet indexes such as Google. Software crawls around Internet sites that store large amounts of information about politicians. These include independent political sites like opensecrets.org, as well as sites run by government agencies. McKinley created software that ferrets out the useful data from these sites, and loads it into the GIA database. The result is a one-stop research site for basic information on key officials. The site also takes advantage of round-the-clock political coverage provided by cable TV's C-Span networks. McKinley and Csikszentmihalyi use video cameras to capture images of people appearing on C-Span, which generally includes the names of people shown on screen. A computer program "reads" each name, and links it to any information about that person stored in the database. By clicking on the picture, a GIA user instantly gets a complete rundown on all available data about that person. The GIA site constantly displays snapshots of the people appearing on C-Span at that moment. If there's a dossier on a particular person, clicking on the picture brings it up. A C-Span viewer watching a live government hearing could learn which companies have contributed to a member of Congress's reelection campaign, before the politician had even finished speaking. All of the information currently on the site is available from public sources. But GIA will go one step further. Starting today, the site will allow the public to submit information about government officials, and this information will be made available to anyone visiting the site. No effort will be made to verify the accuracy of the data. This approach to Internet publishing isn't new. It resembles a method known as Wiki, in which a website is constantly amended by visitors who contribute new information. The best known Wiki site, www.wikipedia.org, is an online encyclopedia created entirely by visitors who have voluntarily written nearly 140,000 articles, on subjects ranging from astronomy to Roman mythology. Any Wikipedia user who thinks he has spotted an error or wants to add information can modify the article. Unlike at a standard encyclopedia operation, there is no central authority to edit or reject articles. The GIA approach, though, raises the possibility that people could post libelous information, or data that unreasonably compromises a person's privacy. That troubles Barry Steinhardt, director of the Technology & Liberty Program of the American Civil Liberties Union. "We think that there should be some restrictions on the publishing of personally identifiable information, whether it involves government officials or not," he said. But he noted that the public has a right to know some things about a politician that would be properly kept private about an ordinary citizen. For instance, voters have a right to know where a politician sends his children to school, if that politician has taken a strong stand on school vouchers. "Do they have the right to publish every piece of data they're going to publish?" Steinhardt asked. "It's going to depend on what they publish." In any case, Steinhardt said, McKinley and Csikszentmihalyi have a First Amendment right to set up the GIA project. And he said that it's a valuable response to the government's TIA surveillance. "I assume the point of this is, turnabout is fair play." On a page of the GIA website, at opengov.media.mit.edu, McKinley and Csikszentmihalyi give their answer to questions about the legitimacy of their actions. "Is it legal?" the site reads. "It should be." ----------------------- end forwarded message from John Perna --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: The history we celebrate today (fwd) Date: 07 Jul 2003 03:30:58 -0700 (PDT) The mess we're in, is it any wonder? Bill ----------------------- begin forwarded message from Rich Martin --------------------- 9/11 WE REMEMBER! JULY 5, 2003 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz The history we celebrate today This weekend we celebrate that stirring day in history, July 4, 1812, when the first president of the United States, Benjamin Franklin, emerged from the old State House in Boston, held up the new Constitution freshly penned by Thomas Jefferson of New York, and announced to the cheers of the gathered throng that "These United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent of the crown of Spain!" Who would not wish to have been there, joining in the joyous tumult, as the commander of the Continental Army, Ulysses S. Grant, promptly ordered his men to board the waiting steamships and set sail for San Juan Hill? Um, no. Actually, that's not the way it went. But today's question is, how many young Americans, be they eighth graders or high school seniors -- even college students at our best universities -- could correct as many as half a dozen errors in the paragraph above? A year ago, in May of 2002, Education Week magazine reported that of 11,300 high school seniors tested, 57 percent did not have even a "basic" knowledge of American history. Only 39 percent could adequately describe two advantages the South had over the Union Army during the Civil War (see http//www.edweek.org/ew/newstory.cfm?slug=36naep.h21). When Congressman Roger Wicker recently asked high school seniors in his Mississippi district to name some of the unalienable rights our forefathers died defending in the Revolution of 1776, he got ... "silence," The Associated Press reports. "Among these are life," Rep. Wicker said, "and ..." "Death?" one student asked. "Do the words 'Give me liberty or give me death' sound only vaguely familiar?" asked former Review-Journal staffer Caren Benjamin of The AP in a report filed from Washington last week. "Do you think Thomas Jefferson was the 'Father of the Constitution'? If so, you're not alone. "Nearly 80 percent of seniors at 55 top colleges and universities -- including Harvard and Princeton -- received a D or F on a 34-question, high-school level American history test that contained historical references like those." Ninety-nine percent of the seniors could identify profane adolescents "Beavis and Butthead" as "television cartoon characters." But only 23 percent could identify James Madison as the principal framer of our Constitution. Sadly, this is nothing new. Surveys of high school seniors dating all the way back to 1955 have shown sizeable portions of young American students in good standing are unable to identify the decade in which the Civil War took place. At least, back in 1955, a clear majority could name the nation against which the War of 1812 was fought, and rattle off the names of 20 American presidents. (The New York Times on Nov. 20, 1955 identified Jefferson Davis and Benjamin Franklin as "wrong answers" to that question, though of course they're only wrong if you specify president "of the United States.") In 1994, the National Assessment of Educational Progress found only 11 percent of twelfth graders were "proficient'' in American history. (Asked to name the document that contains the basic rules used to run the Government of the United States of America, only 27 percent could name the U.S. Constitution.) Of course, we always have to check and see which answers are being judged "correct." Of those 11,300 high school seniors tested last year, according to Education Week, 64 percent were marked with a wrong answer because they failed to reply that the Progressive era of 1890 to 1920 was characterized by "a broad-based reform movement that tried to reduce the abuses that had come with modernization and industrialization." The answer may be technically correct, due to the clever use of the verb "try," but doesn't history more typically involve the study of real-world results, rather than starry-eyed intentions? Far from "reforming" the move toward corporate control over the economy, the so-called "Progressive" era brought its greatest triumph, as control over the paper money of the United States was wrested away from the direct control of Congress -- where the Constitution had safely ensconced it for 125 years, resulting in a zero rate of inflation -- and turned over to a consortium of private, corporate bankers known as the "Federal Reserve Board," who have managed during their stewardship to reduce the purchasing power of the dollar to one seventeenth of its level of 1912. The "Progressive era" also brought us direct election of senators -- breaking the veto power of the state legislatures over the enactments and growth of the central government -- as well as alcohol Prohibition, the beginning of the Drug War with the Harrison Narcotics Act, and an income tax that helps subsidize today's military-industrial complex. How on earth these repressive stepchildren of the hygienic movement served to "reduce the abuses that had come with modernization and industrialization," Education Week does not explain. But the ignorance of our youth about our heritage of freedom is still unquestionably abysmal. Do today's high school students know the federal government is barred from subsidizing the indoctrination of the young in any religious creed, including the newfangled religion called "environmentalism" -- let alone that it is the First Amendment that offers us this guarantee our tax moneys can never be used for such a purpose? Do they know there is no exemption allowing the government to punish "hate speech"? How many of today's youth can tell us it is the Second Amendment that guarantees to each individual the right to carry around weapons of military usefulness, without "infringement" by any taxation, permitting, or other regulatory scheme -- or that neither the Fourth Amendment (guaranteeing "the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects") nor the Fifth ("nor be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law") adds "unless the attorney general thinks you're a drug dealer, or that you may have contributed to some suspected terrorist organization"? How many know that the Sixth Amendment guarantees us our right to trial by the kind of jury that judged John Peter Zenger -- not one stacked only with those who will swear in advance to enforce the law as the judge instructs them? Do they know that Article I. Section 9 of our Constitution specifies that "No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken," and that the Supreme Court in the Brushaber and Baltic Mining cases said the Sixteenth Amendment did not repeal or change that restriction on direct taxation, nor "create any new taxing authority"? Can any of them explain why this might be important? Which is declared in Mr. Jefferson's Declaration, that "Whenever any form of government becomes destructive to ... Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness ... it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it," or "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs?" That first one sounds like a recipe for anarchy and revolution. Might it come from the Communist Manifesto, instead? Which of these two principles have Americans given their lives to defend? To which of these two principles have Americans sworn eternal enmity, gladly sacrificing their lives to oppose? If our youth cannot answer these questions, then what are all of today's marching bands and waving flags and fireworks really all about? In 1776, there was no President of the United States -- though Franklin later served as president of the governing body of the independent Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. The redhead who penned the Declaration hailed from Virginia. The army commander was, of course, Washington, "the indispensable man" ... though arguably the most important victory of the Revolution was won in the autumn of 1777, on a farm in upstate New York, by a storekeeper from New Haven who was offered no official command, and so galloped onto the field of battle without anyone's permission, waving his hat and shouting, "Follow me, men!" Who was that great general, who rose again and again despite his serious wounds -- even after his horse was shot from beneath him? Who was that great American hero, to whom in large measure we owe whatever remaining freedoms we have not yet allowed to slip through our fingers? You know his name. It's in all the history books. Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the daily Las Vegas Review-Journal and author of the books Send in the Waco Killers and The Ballad of Carl Drega. For information on his books or his monthly newsletter dial 702-656-3285, or visit Web sites http//www.privacyalert.us or http//www.LibertyBookShop.us. Jack Perrine | Athena Programming | 626-798-6574 -----------------| 1175 N Altadena Dr | --------------- Jack@Minerva.com | Pasadena CA 91107 | FAX-398-8620 ----------------------- end forwarded message from Rich Martin --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: Protect our freedom at the Supreme Court! (fwd) Date: 08 Jul 2003 23:37:01 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from American Center for Law and Justice --------------------- Dear Mr. William Vance, The Supreme Court of the United States has never, in my lifetime, taken a more important religion case than Locke v. Davey. It's so important, in fact, that we have asked friends of the ACLJ to step up with a $350,000 SUPREME COURT MATCHING CHALLENGE fund to help us prepare for the case. The impact of the gift you give today will be DOUBLED for the cause of liberty and freedom! Please give generously right away. http://www.aclj.net/ACLJ/donate.cfm?dn=1008&commid=65373045&id=860188 This is no exaggeration: the moment the Justices agreed to hear the case, I knew we had an unprecedented chance to protect our religious freedoms. The outcome of this case is incredibly important, with enormously FAR-REACHING RAMIFICATIONS: * The law of all 50 states will be impacted by the outcome of Locke v. Davey. * This case gives us the opportunity to end - once and for all - discrimination targeted at religious faith, while removing laws that have been in place for nearly 150 years. * It will affect how we interpret the "Free Exercise" clause of the U.S. Constitution. * It will shape the way Christian people are treated in this country. * IT WILL AFFECT EVERY RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES ISSUE WE ARE DEALING WITH! On the surface, this case seems simple. Josh Davey was a college student in Kirkland, Washington. He qualified (by his grade point average and his financial need) for a state scholarship, which he received. But then the state of Washington learned that Josh was pursuing a religious studies major, and they STRIPPED him of his scholarship. If he had chosen to study theology at a secular school, it would have been fine. But because the college he chose teaches religion, theology, and Christianity from a CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE, the state DENIED the funding. The state actually engaged in TARGETED CENSORSHIP - banning state funding of faith-inducing courses, and those alone. We have been representing Josh for over three years ... but this is NOT just a matter of one student losing one scholarship. LOCKE V. DAVEY WILL AFFECT ANY POLICY BY ANY PUBLIC INSTITUTION THAT USES RELIGION, CHRISTIANITY, OR FAITH AS A BASIS FOR EXCLUSION. We have already begun the complicated preparations necessary for this case. We are on a fast track. AND OUR MAJOR BRIEF IS DUE IN THIS CASE IN JUST A FEW SHORT WEEKS! With God's help and your prayers, I will walk into the Supreme Court of the United States with full confidence that our cause is just, and with a deep commitment to seeing justice prevail. But WE NEED YOUR HELP. We must have the support of the members of the American Center - http://www.aclj.net/ACLJ/donate.cfm?dn=1008&commid=65373045&id=860188 - and the Supreme Court Matching Challenge fund represents your single best opportunity to make a POWERFUL IMPACT on this process. Because of this fund, ANY GIFT YOU CAN GIVE WILL BE MATCHED, DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR, up to $350,000. So please give your very best today! http://www.aclj.net/ACLJ/donate.cfm?dn=1008&commid=65373045&id=860188 Please let me hear from you immediately with your generous online gift. Time is so short. Thank you! God bless you! __________________________________ As always, let us know of threats to freedom in your area by calling (757) 226-2489. And tune in to our daily radio program, "Jay Sekulow Live!" Broken links? Contact us! ACLJ Technical Problems http://www.aclj.org/help.asp . Please include NAME, PHONE NUMBER and a description of the technical problem you are having with form. 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To be removed from this e-mail list please click the following link: http://tool.donation-net.net/opt.cfm?dn=1008&eid=7939 ----------------------- end forwarded message from American Center for Law and Justice --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: U.S. Supreme Court Asked to Review Gun-Ownership Rights (fwd) Date: 10 Jul 2003 01:23:03 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from Bill Phillips --------------------- A request has been made to the U.S. Supreme Court to review an appeals-court ruling regarding gun rights under the Second Amendment, the Associated Press reported July 4. http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/summaries/reader/0%2C2061%2C564833%2C00. html ----------------------- end forwarded message from Bill Phillips --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: Is it just me or is this idea stunningly outstanding? (fwd) Date: 14 Jul 2003 05:14:43 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from Terry Wintroub --------------------- This came to me via the Second Amendment Sisters-Philadelphia email list. What a GREAT idea for any group's youth outings. Or even their adult outings. :-) Terry Original message I thought you might like to hear about a gun lesson that 66 youth, age 12-19, learned at Camp American last week. All 66 campers were "issued" a small water gun for the purpose of playing some competitive team games. For the final game in the series, each team was told to keep their best 2 guns and turn the rest in. The sheep were willingly lead to the slaughter in spite of the class on the importance of gun ownership they had attended earlier in the day. As each team completed the final round they were told to sit on the basketball court. When the final team finished the competition, 5 staff members came rushing out of the woods, adorned in blue berets and carrying huge water guns. Naturally, the 66 campers were "slaughtered" by the 5 blue berets with the "assault weapons". The "wounded and dead" were once again gathered on the basketball court to see if they could figure out what happened. They knew all too well at this point that they never should have given up their guns. They also figured out that even though 20 lucky campers still possessed their "state issued" guns, the 5 big "assault weapons" were no match for them. They learned the importance of the right to keep and bear arms, and working to get the ban on "assault weapons" lifted. This is a hands on lesson they will not soon forget. If you would like to find out more about Camp American, go to http://www.CampAmerican.com Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America will be teaching at the North Carolina Camp American next month. Contact Director@CampAmerica.org for details. ----------------------- end forwarded message from Terry Wintroub --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: The World Wide Web Gun Defense Clock (fwd) Date: 15 Jul 2003 07:36:16 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from BOBWORN@aol.com --------------------- Click here: The World Wide Web Gun Defense Clock http://www.pulpless.com/gunclock/ ----------------------- end forwarded message from BOBWORN@aol.com --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: Math Terrorism (fwd) Date: 16 Jul 2003 19:11:57 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from Swftl@aol.com --------------------- >At London's Heathrow Airport today, an individual, later discovered >to be a public school teacher, was arrested trying to board a flight >while in possession of a compass, a protractor, and a graphical >calculator. >Authorities believe he is a member of the notorious Al-Gebra >movement. He is being charged with carrying weapons of math >instruction! ----------------------- end forwarded message from Swftl@aol.com --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: Don't Dismiss H.R. 2038... Bans Most Semi-Auto Rifles... (fwd) Date: 18 Jul 2003 06:40:43 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from Brad3000 --------------------- FYI - Just a reminder - IT AINT GOING AWAY, Boys & Girls! Regardless of whether we think its bound to fail, it has much support already - and a full Senate vote with just 2 or more GOP's crossing the floor would send it to Congress. Think of what you would do, if we get blindsided and told the next day - "Sorry, but as of Sept 30, ALL your rifles & shotguns MUST now be turned in to the waiting shredder - Its The Law...!" Deja vu Australia, anyone? ---------------- Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:47 PM The Most Sweeping Gun Ban Ever Introduced in Congress Clinton Gun Ban "Reenactment" Bans Millions More Guns http://www.nraila.org/FactSheets.asp?FormMode=Detail&ID=143 H.R. 2038, introduced by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), does not just "reenact" or "reauthorize" the 1994 Clinton ban, the so-called "assault weapon" law. It bans millions more guns. And it begins backdoor registration of guns. All told, it's a giant step closer to the goal stated by Clinton gun ban sponsor Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), on CBS 60 Minutes "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an out- right ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, I would have done it." There is no 10-year sunset provision in the bill. H.R. 2038 permanently bans every gun that is currently banned and, with numerous, overlapping provisions: * Bans every gun made to comply with the Clinton ban. The Clinton ban dictated the kinds of grips, stocks and attachments new guns can have. Manufacturers and gun owners complied and new guns conform to the Clinton requirements. H.R. 2038 bans the new guns too. * Bans guns exempted by name or type under the Clinton ban. Commonplace Ruger Mini-14s, Mini-30s, Ranch Rifles, .30 Caliber Carbines, and fixed-magazine semi-automatic center-fire rifles. * Bans all semi-automatic shotguns. Bans Remington, Winchester, Beretta, Benelli, and other shotguns commonly used for hunting, trap, skeet, sporting clays, and self-defense. Bans them by ban- ning their main component, called the "receiver" (Sec. 2(a)(30)(J)), and bans them because they have "any characteristic that can func- tion as a grip"(Sec. 2(H)(ii) and (b)(42)). Any characteristic. * Bans all detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles because they have "any characteristic that can function as a grip." (Sec. 2(a)(30)(D)(iii) and (iv), and (b)(41) and (42)). Any characteristic. * Bans target shooting rifles. Bans the three centerfire rifles most popular for marksmanship competitions: the Colt AR-15, the Springfield M1A and the M1 "Garand." * Bans guns for self-defense. Bans any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle an Attorney General one day claims isn't "sporting," even though the U.S. Constitution, the constitutions of 44 states, and the laws of all 50 states recognize the right to use guns for defense. * Bans 65 named guns (the Clinton law bans 19); Bans semi-auto fixed-magazine pistols of over 10 rounds capacity; Bans frames, receivers, and parts used to repair or refurbish guns; Bans importation of magazines exempted by the Clinton ban; Bans selling a legally-owned "assault weapon" with a magazine of over 10 rounds capacity. * Bans guns rarely used in crime. A fact demonstrated by every state and local law enforcement agency report on the subject. The Congressionally-mandated study of the Clinton ban found that the guns "were never used in more than a fraction of all gun murders." * Begins backdoor registration. Requires manufacturers of guns, frames, receivers, and other parts to report the names of their dealers. Requires dealers to report any of the guns and parts they have in stock. Bans private sales of the guns and parts. The next step is to register individual purchasers. The idea of being able to hold a manufacturer of a product, legally liable for any after sale illegal misuse, is like suing Boeing for the World Trade attacks! Brad. ----------------------- end forwarded message from Brad3000 --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: [ALERT] Help Deport Illegal Aliens (fwd) Date: 18 Jul 2003 20:11:56 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from ConservativeAlerts.c= om --------------------- This CONSERVATIVE ALERT prepared for William Vance: ISSUE: Our boys on the border need some help enforcing=20 the immigration laws of the United States -- and some in=20 Congress are prepared to give them that help, from our=20 boys in blue. U.S. Rep. Charlie Norwood (R-GA) has introduced a bill=20 that addresses the growing U.S. criminal alien crisis by=20 allowing the over 600,000 state and local law enforcement=20 officials in the field to enforce immigration laws during=20 the course of exercising their regular duties. The bipartisan bill, entitled the "Clear Law Enforcement=20 for criminal Alien Removal Act of 2003" (or CLEAR Act -=20 H.R. 2671) brings clarity and coordination to our national=20 immigration system and support and relief to the roughly=20 2,000 Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement=20 (BICE) agents charged with enforcing immigration laws on=20 the books. There are upwards of 400,000 individuals who have received=20 final deportation orders that are hiding in our=20 communities. Their appeals have run out, and the orders=20 tell them, "it's time to go." But the out-manned Bureau=20 of Immigration and Customs Enforcement can't find them!=C2=A0 What's worse, 80,000 of those people have criminal=20 convictions. They were in the hands of law enforcement,=20 but were released back onto the streets. "Can you imagine=20 opening the doors of our prisons and letting 80,000=20 criminals run back into the streets?" asked Rep. Norwood.=20 "That's exactly what's happened with these 80,000=20 criminals." Today's broken enforcement system has left our state=20 and local law enforcement community increasingly unclear=20 on whether they hold the jurisdictional power to enforce=20 our federal immigration laws. The CLEAR Act clarifies=20 that our state and local officers have the inherent=20 authority to arrest and detain criminal and illegal=20 aliens during the normal course of their duty.=20 Additionally, the bill provides these officers with=20 the appropriate funding and training to adequately=20 enforce the immigration laws, and full access to a new=20 National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database=20 containing the records of any and all violators of=20 immigration law. The CLEAR Act also creates a new system for BICE to=20 take custody, process, and remove illegal aliens.=C2=A0 Additionally, it produces a system of accountability=20 by requiring the federal government to either take=20 custody of illegal aliens or else pay the locality to=20 detain the aliens. ACTION ITEM: Right now if a local officer in your=20 hometown, during the normal course of his or her duty,=20 pulls over a car for speeding, with someone who is=20 illegally in our country, they have to call BICE, verify=20 their status, and wait until someone from BICE comes to=20 pick them up. Sometimes they have to wait for hours on=20 the roadside for the pickup to arrive. But most of the=20 time BICE says they're too busy to come by -- telling=20 the police to let the lawbreakers go. As Rep. Norwood=20 says, "That is as wrong as the day is long and it's=20 high time we fixed it." This bill, with 43 co-sponsors, has been referred to=20 the House Committee on the Judiciary; it needs OUR help=20 to get it out on the floor for a vote. Go to our site=20 below to send your Congressman a FREE message, asking=20 him or her to support H.R. 2671, the "CLEAR Act": http://www.conservativealerts.com/071703.htm AOL GO HERE NOTE: Be sure to forward this e-mail to everyone you=20 know who wants to help our boys in blue deport illegal=20 aliens. Thank you! Was this message forwarded to you by a friend? You can sign=20 up for the ConservativeAlerts.com Action Alerts for FREE!=20 Go here: http://www.ConservativeAlerts.com/ ----------------------- end forwarded message from ConservativeAlerts.com= --------------------- -- --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-= 19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! --- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: Special Invitation from Recall Gray Davis Committee (fwd) Date: 18 Jul 2003 21:44:00 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from Citizens Lobby -----= ---------------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SPECIAL CITIZENS MESSAGE from Citizens Lobby TO: All California Residents ... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ July 18, 2003 Committee (www.RecallGrayDavis.com) Re: Invitation to Participate in the "YES on RECALL" Rally & Fair =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D= =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D It is my pleasure to invite you to attend the "YES on RECALL" Rally & Fair that will take place on Saturday, July 26 from 10:00 AM =96 2:00 PM at the California State Capitol Building in Sacramento. This will be a massive event (we've already received RSVP's for well over *1,000* people and are actively working to grow the size of the crowd) and we would very much value your participation in this historic event. We=92ve all seen first hand the devastation Gray Davis has wrought to our state from his failed immigration policies, his unforgivable views on issues of sovereignty and his disastrous economic policies that have left our state bankrupt. We have the worst credit rating in the nation, some of the worst-performing schools, and a redistribution of our tax dollars from those who pay taxes to those who receive an endless amount of government handouts =96 even to those who are not American Citizens. This Recall Gray Davis Rally & Fair is a vitally important event to launch the "YES on RECALL" campaign now that we have gathered over 1.6 million signatures for the Recall Gray Davis petition =96 more than enough signatures to qualify the Recall Gray Davis measure for the ballot. [We are currently fighting Gray Davis and his allies in court over their attempt to delay the election until next year -if the courts rule in favor of the 'will of the voters' then we will have a special recall election in October or November]. We know Gray Davis will spend tens of millions of dollars in television and radio ads smearing the recall campaign and distorting the truth about Gray Davis=92 record in office. Just ask former L.A. Mayor, Dick Riordan, or 2002 GOP Gubernatorial Nominee, Bill Simon, about this =96 they were the victims of $78,000,000 in untrue attack ads that Gray Davis commissioned. In fact, Davis has already hired Al Gore=92s slimey campaign operative Chris Lehane. Lehane, you will recall, was responsible for the repeated defamation of Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris and before that worked to help Bill Clinton wage a public relations war against the impeachment proceedings Clinton faced. Now Lehane is working to help Davis destroy the recall campaign. The best way we can overcome these desperate and unseemly tactics is to launch the =93YES on RECALL=94 campaign with as much momentum as possi= ble. That is why I need you to make whatever personal sacrifice is necessary and come to the California State Capitol in Sacramento (north quadrant adjacent to 11th and L Streets) on Saturday, July 26 for this important and historic recall rally and faire. We expect media representatives from California and national media outlets and have already received inquiries from international media outlets as well. We are currently organizing carpools and caravans from every corner of California and I hope you will consider joining with them so we can have streams of cars with pro-Recall signs and stickers adjoining them. Other recall supporters will be flying up on discount airfare, still others will be taking Greyhound or Amtrak and a number of individuals will be coming by motorhome and camping at one of the area campgrounds and recreation areas. I really need your help to ensure a massive crowd size. Please RSVP your attendance to the rally =96 indicating how many people that will be in your party to: Rally@RecallGrayDavis.com. Please bring along any friends, family members, co-workers or neighbors who share your disdain for the corrupt and failed administration of Governor Davis. As we continue to build the projected size of the crowd, I am grateful for the help of talk radio stations throughout California who are not only helping to publicize the rally, but will be coming to Sacramento to attend it =96 and in some cases broadcast live from it as well! We have already lined up the attendance of 1/2 a dozen talk radio stations from all over the state including KSFO from San Francisco, KOGO from San Diego, KFAX from San Francisco, KTKZ from Sacramento, KCBC from Stockton, KION from Monterey, KFIA from Sacramento as well as interest from several other stations. I am especially thankful for the support of famed talk radio personality, Dr. Laura, who is promoting the rally on her show and on her website: http://www.DrLaura.com. There will also be booths manned by representatives from dozens of organizations that support the recall effort and speeches from gubernatorial candidates and other leading political figures from the state. This recall effort has support in every political party in the state and representatives from the Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, American Independent, Reform, Peace & Freedom and Green parties will be in attendance. We=92ve all seen how successfully the Left has utilized rallies and protests to gather media attention and awareness for their causes =96 most recently their attempts to build public opposition to President Bush=92s noble War on Terrorism. I say it=92s time we show that anti-war activists are not the only ones who care about their beliefs enough to publicly rally support. We will have the whole world watching, and we need thousands upon thousands of recall supporters in attendance to make a statement that we are going to take our government back and no amount of Gray Davis=92 money can stop us. This event will not just be a standard political rally but a day for families. Live bands will perform immediately following the rally, Glenn Erath will perform the official recall song "Bye Bye to That Gray Davis Guy" and we will have a Carnival Midway with games for the kids, "YES on RECALL" balloons, face painting and much more. We have a page on our website that is continuously being updated with rally information including travel arrangements and more at: http://www.RecallGrayDavis.com. So please get back to the Recall Gray Davis Campaign with your intention to attend by emailing us right away at: Rally@RecallGrayDavis.com. This event will truly be a day that will be long remembered in history as the day the =93YES on RECALL=94 campaign put the final nail in the coffin of Gray Davis=92 political career, and began the long process of restoring the luster of hope and economic vitality to the Golden State. Be sure to bring a camera and film, homemade signs and your kids. They will one day be able to tell their own children how they took part in a great step in democracy that returned the power of the government back to the people =96 where it belongs. Again =96 be sure to check out our website each day for more complete information and constant updates to our Recall Gray Davis Rally & Faire page =96 www.RecallGrayDavis.com. Thank you for your kind consideration in joining with us next Saturday, July 26 at the State Capitol. Sincerely Yours, The Honorable Howard Kaloogian Chairman, Recall Gray Davis Committee http://www.RecallGrayDavis.com ----------------------- end forwarded message from Citizens Lobby -------= -------------- -- --- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-= 19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath n= o weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy= a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chr= ist ----------------+----------+--------------------------+------------------= --- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! --- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: [ALERT] Help Pass New Privacy Protection Legislation (fwd) Date: 21 Jul 2003 17:30:18 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from ConservativeAlerts.com --------------------- ISSUE: Concerned about growing encroachments on our individual rights, cloaked in a shroud of "patriotic" governmental acts? Now there's something that you can do about it. Congressman Steve Chabot (R-OH) has introduced legislation to implement stringent privacy protections for individuals. The legislation, the Defense of Privacy Act (H.R. 338), requires federal agencies to assess the privacy implications of proposed rules and regulations. "In the past several years, privacy rights have, too often, been an afterthought in the regulatory process," said Chabot. "This proposal will force agencies to open their eyes to legitimate privacy concerns." Chabot's Defense of Privacy Act would require federal agencies to take into account privacy concerns when developing and implementing regulations, to prepare a privacy impact analysis of regulations that have been introduced, and to ensure a periodic review of the impact on privacy by the regulations that have been instituted. (Read the full bill at thomas.loc.gov) Chabot has been a leader in the effort to compel federal agencies to consider the privacy rights of individuals when issuing rules and regulations. In the 106th Congress, Chabot first introduced the Defense of Privacy Act. In the last Congress, Chabot and former-Rep. Bob Barr (R-GA), then-Chairman of the subcommittee of primary jurisdiction for the legislation, spearheaded the successful passage of the legislation in the House, but it failed to pass the Senate. Now, it's back on the agenda, and it's time to pass it all the way through. ACTION ITEM: "The sphere of privacy, which Justice Brandeis eloquently described as the 'right to be let alone,' is not only rapidly diminishing, it is increasingly penetrable," said Barr. "Special care is necessary to ensure that personal information remains personal, absent a sound reason to treat it otherwise. This value is neither Republican or Democratic; liberal or conservative, it is an American value." "This legislation takes the first -- necessary -- step toward protecting the privacy of information collected by the federal government. Unlike a private commercial gatherer of personal data, the government can put you in jail based on what it uncovers. For this reason, the government has an obligation to exercise greater responsibility when enacting policies that undermine privacy rights," Barr continued. A hearing on the bill is currently scheduled for this week. Go to our site below to send your Congressman a FREE message, asking him or her to support H.R. 338, the "Defense of Privacy Act": http://www.conservativealerts.com/072103.htm AOL GO HERE NOTE: Be sure to forward this e-mail to everyone you know who wants to help pass this much-need privacy protection legislation. Thank you! You are receiving this communication because you requested to be e-mailed regarding issues and offers of interest to conservatives, either when you sent an e-mail to Congress, signed an online petition, sent a FedEx, faxgram or mailgram, or when you donated to a conservative cause or candidate on the Internet or through postal mail. You are currently subscribed as: bill@xpresso.seaslug.org For removal of your subscription, send an email to leave-conservativealerts-7104F@list.conservativealerts.com Was this message forwarded to you by a friend? You can sign up for the ConservativeAlerts.com Action Alerts for FREE! Go here: http://www.ConservativeAlerts.com/ ----------------------- end forwarded message from ConservativeAlerts.com --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: New definitions of Stupidity - (;-> (fwd) Date: 23 Jul 2003 22:51:22 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from House, David Alan --------------------- When a man attempted to siphon gasoline from a motor home parked on a Seattle street, he got much more than he bargained for. Police arrived at the scene to find an ill man curled up next to a motor home near spilled sewage. A police spokesman said that the man admitted to trying to steal gasoline and plugged his hose into the motor home's sewage tank by mistake. The owner of the vehicle declined to press charges, saying that it was the best laugh he'd ever had. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A woman was reporting her car as stolen, and mentioned that there was a car phone in it. The policeman taking the report called the phone and told th! e guy that answered that he had read the ad in the newspaper and wanted to buy the car. They arranged to meet, and the thief was arrested. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 45 year-old Amy Brasher was arrested in San Antonio, Texas, after a mechanic reported to police that 18 packages of marijuana were packed in the engine compartment of the car which she had brought to the mechanic for an oil change. According to police, Brasher later said that she didn't realize that the mechanic would have to raise the hood to change the oil. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Posman, 33, was arrested recently in Providence, R.I, after allegedly knocking out an armored car driver and stealing the closest four bags of money. It turned out they contained $800 in PENNIES, weighed 30 pounds each, and slowed him to a stagger during his getaway so that police officers easily jumped him! from behind. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oklahoma City - Dennis Newton was on trial for the armed robbery of a convenience store in a district court this week when he fired his lawyer. Assistant district attorney Larry Jones said Newton, 47, was doing a fair job of defending himself until the store manager testified that Newton was the robber. Newton jumped up, accused the woman of lying and then said, "I should have blown your [expletive] head off." The defendant paused, then quickly added, "-- if I'd been the one that was there." The jury took 20 minutes to convict Newton and recommend a 30-year sentence. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ R.C. Gaitlin, 21, walked up to two patrol officers who were showing their squad car computer equipment to children in a Detroit neighborhood. When he asked how the system worked, the officers asked him for a piece of identification. Gaitlin gave them his driver's license, they entered it into the computer, and moments later they arrested Gaitlin because information on the screen showed that Gaitlin was wanted for a two-year-old armed robbery in St. Louis, Missouri. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Police in Chicago sent Cubs tickets to people with outstanding arrest warrants. When they arrived at the game, they were promptly arrested. _________________________________________________________________ ----------------------- end forwarded message from House, David Alan --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: [ALERT] Help Slow Government Waste (fwd) Date: 24 Jul 2003 14:38:21 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from ConservativeAlerts.com --------------------- This CONSERVATIVE ALERT prepared for William Vance: ISSUE: Do you think government is bloated? Well, duh. Believe it or not, there are some in Congress who are trying to reverse the trend towards more and more laws, agencies and programs. Seeking a way to save tax dollars and reduce the federal government's duplication of services, Congresswoman Jo Ann Davis (R-VA) has introduced H.R. 2743, the "Government Accountability and Streamlining Act." Rep. Davis's legislation requires the Comptroller General of the United States to determine whether any proposed legislation in the House or Senate creates any new "federal entities, programs or functions" that are redundant of any existing federal program. The Comptroller General would prepare these anti-redundancy statements for bills approved by any committee or subcommittee of the House or Senate. This is similar to how the Congressional Budget Office "scores" a bill to determine its budgetary impact prior to consideration on the House or Senate floor. "Before Congress votes on any measure, we have a full understanding of the fiscal impacts of the proposal," Congresswoman Davis said. "Why shouldn't we have the same information regarding whether or not a bill would be duplicating existing programs? This just seems like common sense to me." Common sense is sorely lacking on Capitol Hill. We need to shove our Congressmen along, and demand they support this bill -- at least as a first step towards more governmental accountability. ACTION ITEM: Too often in Washington, the answer to any problem is to create another federal program. Then we end up with similar programs being scattered among agencies and across different Cabinet departments. That's not the most effective or efficient way to operate a government. We can do better. Apart from sweeping government reorganization, this Act would introduce commonsense steps that Congress can take to address the problem of waste and duplication in government. Go to our site below to send your Congressman a FREE message, asking him or her to co-sponsor H.R. 2743, the "Government Accountability and Streamlining Act": http://www.conservativealerts.com/072403.htm AOL GO HERE NOTE: Be sure to forward this e-mail to everyone you know who wants to help slow government waste and inefficiency. Thank you! You are receiving this communication because you requested to be e-mailed regarding issues and offers of interest to conservatives, either when you sent an e-mail to Congress, signed an online petition, sent a FedEx, blast fax or mailgram, or when you donated to a conservative cause or candidate on the Internet or through postal mail. You are currently subscribed as: bill@xpresso.seaslug.org For removal of your subscription, send an email to leave-conservativealerts-7104F@list.conservativealerts.com Was this message forwarded to you by a friend? You can sign up for the ConservativeAlerts.com Action Alerts for FREE! Go here: http://www.ConservativeAlerts.com/ ----------------------- end forwarded message from ConservativeAlerts.com --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: Interesting..... (fwd) Date: 27 Jul 2003 14:30:35 -0700 (PDT) Interesting, what do you think, pros, cons? Bill ----------------------- begin forwarded message from M Stofen --------------------- Dear recipient - I have been asked to present guidance into taking the first step offering every citizen of the United States the ability to participate in an enterprise started by George Washington. He stated, "The basis of our political system is the right of the people to make and to alter their constitutions of government." Please read the following web page and respond as soon as possible. My report is requested no later than August 3rd, 2003. This is truly for the major benefit of our country and the American people. The web page - http://ni4d.us/ Pep ----------------------- end forwarded message from M Stofen --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org Subject: Turn about is fair play (fwd) Date: 31 Jul 2003 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT) ----------------------- begin forwarded message from Bob James --------------------- An interesting article about actions by phobic homophiles.... http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33845 Bob ----------------------- end forwarded message from Bob James --------------------- -- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** 4-19! ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Planck | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead; LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! -