From: Bill Vance Subject: Fwd: Action Alert: National Call-In Day on Assault Weapons Ban (fwd) Date: 04 Sep 2004 04:29:10 -0700 (PDT) ---------- begin forwarded message from C. D. Tavares ---------- So we need to call Wednesday AND Thurday. :-) 202-456-1111. Message: "Let the Assault Weapons Ban expire!" > From: CDF Action Council > Subject: Action Alert: National Call-In Day on Assault Weapons Ban Next Week > Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:55:49 -0400 (EDT) > > Children's Defense Fund Action Council Action Alert: National Call-In >Day on Assault Weapons Ban Next Week > > If President Bush and the Congress fail to act, the Assault Weapons Ban >will expire on September 13, 2004. We are asking you to take one more >important step to keep children safe from these weapons designed to kill >as many people as possible as quickly as possible. > > Next week advocates across the country will join together for a National >Call-In Day on Thursday, September 9th. On that day, please contact >President Bush and urge him to call on Congress to renew the Assault >Weapons Ban. We will send you an email reminder, including the call-in >number, late Wednesday so you will have all the information you need >Thursday morning to contact President Bush! > > Thank you for all of your efforts to help renew the Assault Weapons Ban >and keep these deadly weapons from flooding our streets! > > To Unsubscribe: You may unsubscribe from our mailing list at any time >by visiting here. -- Escape the Rat Race for Peace, Quiet, and Miles of Desert Beauty Take a Sanity Break at The Bunkhouse at Liberty Haven Ranch http://libertyhavenranch.com ---------- end forwarded message from C. D. Tavares ---------- -- ******************************************************************************** * * RKBA! * Blessings on thee, oh Israel!!! * 4-19! * * ******************************************************************************** An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured by | All Matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by Colt; | --Max Planck | weapon, sell his hand = Freedom | Dial | In the beginning was the | garment, and buy a on every side!! | 1-911-A1 | Word. --The Holy Bible | sword. --Jesus Christ ******************************************************************************** Constitutional Government is dead! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!! ******************************************************************************** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: Kopel: Israel & Thailand Set Example By Arming Teachers.. (fwd) Date: 05 Sep 2004 01:43:48 -0700 (PDT) ---------- begin forwarded message from Brad3000 ---------- FYI - Very interesting article... ! Sadly we do know how the Beslan incident ended... Follow the Leader Israel and Thailand set an example by arming teachers. David Kopel, research director of the Independence Institute September 02, 2004 http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel200409022215.asp Islamist terrorists in Beslan, Russia, are currently holding hundreds of children hostage, threatening to execute them. No one knows how this horrible situation will end; but we do know that it could have been prevented. Decades ago, Israel adopted a policy that swiftly ended terrorist attacks against schools. Earlier this year, Thailand adopted a similar approach. It is politically incorrect, but it does have the adv= - antage of saving the lives of children and teachers. The policy? Encourage teachers to carry firearms. Muslim extremists in Thailand=92s southern provinces of Narathiwat, Yala, and Pattani have been carrying out a terrorist campaign, seeking to create an Islamic state independent of Thailand, whose population is predominantly Buddhist. Most teachers are Buddhists, and they have been a key target of the terrorists, who have also perpetrated arsons against dozens of schools. As reported by the Associated Press (=93Thailand allows teachers in restive south to carry guns for protection=94) on April 27, 2004, =93Inte= rior Minister Bhokin Bhalakula ordered provincial governors to give teach- ers licenses to buy guns if they want to even though it would mean bringing firearms into the class-rooms when the region's 925 schools reopen May 17 after two months of summer holiday.=94 The A.P. article explained: =93Pairat Wihakarat, the president of a teachers=92 union in the three provinces, said more than 1,700 teachers have already asked for transfers to safer areas. Those who are willing to stay want to carry guns to protect themselves, he said.=94 Gun-control laws in Thailand are extremely strict, and are being tight- ened even more because of three school shootings (perpetrated by students) that took place in a single week in June 2003. Two students were killed. But though Thailand=92s government is extremely hostile to gun ownership in general, it has recognized that teachers ought to be able to safeguard their students and themselves. Will Thailand=92s new strategy work? It did in Israel, as David Schiller detailed in an interview with Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. Schiller was born in West Germany and moved to Israel, where he served in the military as a weapons specialist. He later return- ed to Germany, and was hired as a counterterrorism expert by the Berlin police office, aswell as by police forces of other German cities. For a while he worked in the terrorism research office of the RAND corporation, and for several years he published a German gun mag- azine. Schiller recalls that Palestine Liberation Organization attacks on Israel= i schools began during Passover 1974. The first attack was aimed at a school in Galilee. When the PLO terrorists found that it was closed because of Passover weekend, they murdered several people in a nearby apartment building. Then, on May 15, 1974, in Maalot: Three PLO gunmen, after making their way through the border fence, first shot up a van load full of workers returning from a tobacco factory (incidentally these people happened to be Galilee Arabs, not Jews), then they entered the school compound of Maalot. First they murder- ed the housekeeper, his wife and one of their kids, then they took a whole group of nearly 100 kids and their teachers hostage. These were staying overnight at the school, as they were on a hiking trip. In the end, the deadline ran out, and the army=92s special unit assaulted the building. During the rescue attempt, the gunmen blew their explo- sive charges and sprayed the kids with machine-gun fire. 25 people died, 66 wounded. Israel at the time had some strict gun laws, left over from the days of British colonialism, when the British rulers tried to prevent the Jews from owning guns. After vigorous debate, the government began allowing army reservists to keep their weapons with them. Handgun carry permits were given to any Israeli with a clean record who lived in the most dangerous areas: Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. All over Israel, guns became pervasive in the schools: Teachers and kindergarten nurses now started to carry guns, schools were protected by parents (and often grandpas) guarding them in voluntary shifts. No school group went on a hike or trip without armed guards. The Police involved the citizens in a voluntary civil guard proj- ect =93Mishmar Esrachi,=94 which even had its own sniper teams. The Army=92= s Youth Group program, =93Gadna=94, trained 15 to 16-year-old kids in gun safety and guard procedures and the older high-school boys got invol- ved with the Mishmar Esrachi. During one noted incident, the =93Herzliyah Bus massacre=94 (March =9278, hijacking of a bus, 37 dead, 76 wounded), these youngsters were involved in the overall security measures in which the whole area between North Tel Aviv and the resort town of Herzlyiah was blocked off, manning roadblocks with the police, guard- ing schools kindergartens, etc. After a while, =93When the message got around to the PLO groups and a couple infiltration attempts failed, the attacks against schools ceased= .=94 This is not to say that Palestinian terrorists never target schools. In l= ate May 2002, an Israeli teacher shot a suicide terrorist before he could harm anyone. On May 31, 2002, as reported by Israel National News, a terrorist threw a grenade and began shooting at a kindergarten in Shavei Shomron. Then, instead of closing in on the children, he abruptly fled the kinde- rgarten and began shooting up the nearby neighborhood. Apparently he realized that the kindergarten was sure to have armed adults, and that he could not stay at the school long enough to make sure he act- ually murdered someone. Unfortunately for the terrorist, =93David Elbaz, owner of the local mini- market, gave chase and killed him with gunshots. In addition to several grenades and the weapon the terrorist carried on him, security sweeps revealed several explosive devices that he had intended to detonate during the thwarted attack.=94 People can spend months and years studying the =93root causes=94 of ter- rorism, and pondering the merits of the grievances of Islamic terrorists in Malaysia, Israel, and Russia. But it=92s fair to say that schoolchildr= en and teachers are not legitimate targets even of people who have leg- itimate grievances. No one knows if civilized nations will ever eliminate the root causes of terrorism. But we do know that terrorist attacks on schools and school- children could be almost completely eliminated in a very short time =97 if every nation at risk of terrorist attacks on schools began following t= he lead of Thailand and Israel. Adults have a duty to protect children. In Beslan at this very moment, seven people are dead, and hundreds more are in deadly peril, bec- ause the teachers lacked the tools to stop the evildoers. If we are reall= y serious about gun laws that protect =93the children,=94 then it seems cle= ar that =97 whatever other gun laws a society adopts =97 every civilized nation at risk of terrorist attack ought to ensure that armed teachers can protect innocent children. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D #11 Have A Plan Sam - 50 Ways To Save Your Butt. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Any other views expressed herein, are my own, not bought or sponsored in any shape or form, by or for any organization, currently existing or not. It should be noted: the URL posted is very likely to suddenly expire & if the reader wants to read the full article, they should should visit the copyright holders listed site very promptly. 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LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!= ! *************************************************************************= ******* - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bill Vance Subject: GOAL Alert (fwd) Date: 06 Sep 2004 05:11:48 -0700 (PDT) ---------- begin forwarded message from Joe Waldron ---------- Congress goes back into session on Tuesday, 7 September. The so-called "assault weapon" and full-capacity magazine bans sunset (expire) at midnight (2400) on Monday , 13 September, 2004. Our "window of risk" is extremely narrow, BUT IT STILL EXISTS. The messages quoted below talk of a concerted effort on the part of individuals who want to see the ban extended and expanded to push the Congress and the President into passing such an extension/expansion. NOW IS THE TIME to call, e-mail, fax or write your elected officials (Representative and Senators) and urge them to resist such a move. Some points worth making about the "ban" may be found at http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/187690_assault25.html?searchpagefrom=2&searchdiff=12 You can reach your Representative (Congressperson) at http://www.house.gov/writerep/ You can e-mail your Senators from http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Contact the President at Mailing Address The White House 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington, DC 20500 Phone Numbers Comments: 202-456-1111 Switchboard: 202-456-1414 FAX: 202-456-2461 TTY/TDD Comments: 202-456-6213 Visitors Office: 202-456-2121 E-Mail President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT AN EXTENSION OF THE A/W BAN Joe W QUOTE Greetings All, MAJOR NUMBERS OF ORGANIZED "ANTI GUN" GROUPS ACROSS AMERICA ARE TARGETING THIS THURSDAY TO FLOOD THE WHITE HOUSE WITH PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS IN SUPPORT OF RENEWING THE AWB. HERE COMES THE PUSH.... most of these groups mean well but are misguided.....we need to help educate and respond in kind.. I have received and already responded to the below email and request you all ELOQUENTLY respond in force this week to the originators (I post their email after) as well as offer a dissenting point of view to the White House and Congress on Wednesday and Thursday this week in order to pre-empt this push. Many anti gun groups are using a grassroots network to forward emails accross the country in an attempt to renew the AWB. They have enlisted considerable help, just the JWI organization is over 80,000 members now and very influential in the Jewish community, make no mistake, its not just the Jewish Women Int'l league, they are only responding to a request from others..the other two organizations have excellent grass roots contituencies as well..see the website listed in the forward.. We must 1) ELOQUENTLY and SUCCINCTLY respond to the originators of this email forward with an articulate but differing opinion. And 2) ring the bells off of the White House and your Congressman in support of letting AWB fade away. Judy Katzen board member JWI jkatzen@usa.net,Debra Rosenbloom Esq Director of Programs JWI drosenbloom@jwi.org, Susan Peschin Consumer Federation of America spechin@consumerfed.org,Jill Ward Coalition to stop gun violence jward@csgv.org My response was too lengthy and personl to these people and it really needs to be shortened.... Here is the letter...my response follows in the next post.. Regards, Iggy Please do what you can. Thanks. JK ----- Original Message ----- From: Deborah Rosenbloom To: Judy Katzen ; Sandy Unger Cc: Lori Weinstein Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 10:09 AM Subject: advocacy We are posting this to the Advocacy website, - Deborah Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:04:48 -0400 From: "Susan Peschin" Subject: FW: National Call-In Day Sept 9th on Assault Weapons Ban Dear Coalition Members and Friends, Please pass along this action alert for the national call-in day to ban assault weapons to your members and affiliates. Feel free to alter the language if needed (see attached file). Thank you very much for your help and support in this national effort to protect our communities from deadly, military-style weapons . For more information on assault weapons legislation go to www.underassault.org If you have any questions, please contact Jill Ward at jward@csgv.org or 202-408-0061, ext. 103. _______________________________________ TELL THE PRESIDENT TO BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS NOW! Please contact President Bush on Thursday, September 9th, 2004, and tell him to call on Congress to send him a bill to renew the assault weapons ban. The current ban on military-style, semi-automatic assault weapons is set to expire on September 13, 2004 unless Congress and the President act. We need your help! In 2000, George W. Bush said, "It makes no sense for assault weapons to be around our society." Tell President Bush to keep his promise and support renewal of the assault weapons ban. Recent surveys show that the majority of citizens - including gun owners, across the country in states like Florida, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Arizona support the assault weapons ban. Assault weapons are the weapons of choice for criminals and terrorists and have no place in our communities. Every major law enforcement organization, representing hundreds of thousands of law enforcements officers, supports the assault weapons ban. On Thursday, please call the President and tell him to stand with law enforcement and support public safety. Tell him to call on Congress to send him legislation to renew the assault weapons ban TODAY! HOW YOU CAN HELP: STEP 1: On Thursday, September 9th, 2004, call the White House between the hours of 9 am and 5 pm EST at 202-456-1111. STEP 2: Tell the President to listen to law enforcement and renew the ban on assault weapons before it expires on Monday, September 13th. STEP 3: ENLIST YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO HELP ON TUESDAY. Please forward this action alert to everyone in your email address book! For more information on assault weapons, go to www.underassault.org ------------- Deborah Rosenbloom, Esq. Director of Programs Jewish Women International 2000 M Street, NW, Suite 720 Washington, DC 20036 T: 202.857.1300 or T: 1.800.343.2823 CLOSE QUOTE ---------- end forwarded message from Joe Waldron ---------- -- ******************************************************************************** * * RKBA! * Blessings on thee, oh Israel!!! * 4-19! * * ******************************************************************************** An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured by | All Matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by Colt; | --Max Planck | weapon, sell his hand = Freedom | Dial | In the beginning was the | garment, and buy a on every side!! | 1-911-A1 | Word. --The Holy Bible | sword. --Jesus Christ ******************************************************************************** Constitutional Government is dead! LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!! ******************************************************************************** -