From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Senator Jon Kyl goofs Date: 01 Jan 1997 05:38:52 -0800 [transcription] United States Senate Washington, D.C. 20510-0304 December 18, 1996 Mr. Paul A. Mitchell 2509 North Campbell, Suite 1776 Tucson, Arizona Dear Mr. Mitchell: In response to your letter of November 3, I interpret IRC 7851(a)(6)(A) as an effective date for Subtitle F of the Code. As for 26 U.S.C. 3121(e), I read it to define the term "state" as not only the 50 states, but also the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, and American Samoa. Sincerely, /s/ JON KYL United States Senator JK:tg # # # [for some background history, read the press release "Congresswoman Suspected of Income Tax Evasion" in the Supreme Law Library at URL http://www.supremelaw.com ; a copy is now appended to this message.] FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE August 28, 1996 Congresswoman Suspected of Income Tax Evasion Payson, Arizona. Paul Mitchell, a Counselor at Law and Citizen of Arizona state, today challenged U.S. Representative Barbara Kennelly to stop evading the big question about federal income taxes: Does the term "State" at Internal Revenue Code 3121(e) include only the named federal territories and possessions of the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam and American Samoa? Can this be income tax evasion? Read on. In a letter to Mr. John Randall of San Diego last January 24, Kennelly responded to a written request from Randall asking her if the word "State" in 26 U.S. Code 3121(e) and in other pending legislation were the same. Rep. Kennelly, a Democrat from Connecticut, first checked with the Legislative Counsel and with the Congressional Research Service about the definition. "According to these legal experts," answered Kennelly, "the definitions are not the same. The term state in 26 U.S. Code 3121 (e) specifically includes only the named U.S. territories and possessions." Her letter to Randall, on official House of Representatives stationery, was dated January 24, 1996. This admission is earth-shaking, according to Paul Mitchell, who has conducted an in-depth investigation of federal laws and the U.S. Constitution for seven years now. If the Internal Revenue Code was deliberately written to confuse the American people into believing that "State" means "Arizona" or "California," when it does not, then the Congress has a lot of explaining to do. Mitchell has since challenged Kennelly to produce copies of the correspondence she received from the Legislative Counsel and Congressional Research Service, but she has now fallen silent and refuses to answer any follow-up letters. Congress, incidentally, exempted themselves from the disclosure requirements of the Freedom of Information Act. Writing under several pen names, Paul Mitchell's work has reached all the way into the U.S. Supreme Court, which adopted "the federal zone" as a household word in their sweeping 1995 decision in U.S. v. Lopez. His book entitled The Federal Zone: Cracking the Code of Internal Revenue, was first published in 1992, and became an instant underground success for its lucid language and indisputable legal authority. The book was originally written in electronic form, which made it easy to disseminate through the Internet. The fourth edition can be viewed with the Alta Vista search engine, developed by Digital Equipment Corporation. The Internet version does not preserve any bold, underline, or italics, however. Mitchell has used special character formats to highlight important words and phrases in federal statutes and case laws, easing the reader's burden of deciphering an otherwise unintelligible code. Mitchell Challenges U.S. Rep. Barbara Kennelly: Page 1 of 2 It is clear, there is a huge difference between the area covered by the federal zone, and the area covered by the 50 States. "Money is a powerful motivation for all of us," writes Mitchell in a chapter from the book. "Congress had literally trillions of dollars to gain by convincing most Americans they were inside its revenue base when, in fact, most Americans were outside its revenue base, and remain outside even today. This is deception on a grand scale, and the proof of this deception is found in the statute itself." Indeed, the proof is now leaking out on official Congressional stationery. Mitchell goes on to argue, it is no wonder why public relations "officials" of the IRS cringe in fear when dedicated Patriots admit, out loud and in person, that they have read the law. It is quite stunning how the carefully crafted definitions of "United States" do appear to unlock a statute that is horribly complex and deliberately so. As fate would have it, these carefully crafted definitions also expose perhaps the greatest fiscal fraud that has ever been perpetrated upon any people at any time in the history of the world. It is now time for a shift in the wind. That shift is being driven by a growing understanding of personal status and its relation to government territorial jurisdiction. The vivid pattern that has now painfully emerged is that "citizens of the United States", as defined in federal tax law, are the intended victims of a modern statutory slavery that was predicted by the infamous Hazard Circular soon after the Civil War began. This circular admitted that chattel slavery was doomed, so the bankers needed to invent a new kind of slaves. These "statutory" slaves are now burdened with a bogus federal debt which is spiralling out of control. The White House budget office recently invented a new kind of "generational accounting" so as to project a tax load of seventy-one percent on future generations of these "citizens of the United States". The final version of that report upped the projection to eighty percent. "It is our duty to ensure that this statutory slavery is soon gone with the wind, just like its grisly and ill-fated predecessor," concludes Paul Mitchell. The fifth anniversary edition of The Federal Zone will be available before the end of the year. Copies of Mitchell's correspondence with U.S. Representative Kennelly can be obtained by sending email to pmitch@primenet.com, Mitchell's email address on the Internet. # # # Mitchell Challenges U.S. Rep. Barbara Kennelly: Page 2 of 2 ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: From Nancy Lord MD JD: No More Indictments (fwd) Date: 01 Jan 1997 00:11:43 PST On Dec 31, Norman Olson wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] As I read thru this message (presumeably from Nancy Lord), I nodded casually and yawned often as another "let's restate the issue" person told everyone else what they should do. I've seen this material before, but nothing new... Then I hit the DO's and DON'Ts and had to take exception. The portion is quoted: > DO AND DON'T > > Patriots who speak out about the unconstitutional expansion > of the federal government, U.N. control, illegal raids, etc., > should not engage in training exercises. Instead learn self > defense by joining the reserves or the Sheriff's auxiliary, > or taking a firearms, martial arts, or ROTC course. Work on > physical fitness and practice roughing it by camping with > a nature appreciation club. Nobody needs to put a bulls-eye > on his head to shoot straight, run fast, and build endurance. > > If you feel that military style preparedness is tantamount, > then leave the first amendment activities to others. I'm > trampling on the constitution, but it is, again, reality. > Col. Bo Gritz has not been indicted for S.P.I.K.E. training > because training alone is not illegal (in most states), as > long as the government is not the enemy. > To this I DISAGREE. Reality? Hardly. If you want reality then realize that the only thing the Tyrant understands is the sound of magazines being jammed into rifles and bolts slamming shut! The only thing that the jackbooted thugs and gangsters of the Washington regime understand is the motion of millions of armed liberty-loving-Americans SHAKING THEIR GUNS IN THE FACES OF TYRANNY. That, my fellow Americans, is reality... I will not exercise one of my inalienable rights and forbid the other. I have the right to assemble, to dress in my uniform, to preach and teach the Word of God, ALONG WITH POLITICS, and....and...and.... KEEP AND BEAR THE ARMS AT THE SAME TIME. What about this don't we understand? If you want reality, realize that by giving up portions of the Bill of Rights in order to supposedly reside in a state of federal grace is the pathway to eventual subjection! It is the tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying NOTHING.... The reality is that anyone who tells us to give up essential liberty in order to enjoy some security deserves neither liberty nor security! Repost this! And to whoever created this message going around the internet, you better understand the nature of the beast you are fighting before you tell others how to lie down with it! God Help Us if we buy these DOs and DON'Ts Kind Regards, Norm Olson, Commander Northern Michigan Regional Militia > > INTRODUCTION > > The freedom movement was dealt a harsh blow this year. > Since April, five indictments, all of three or more militia > members, all charged with what Justice Learned Hand once > called, "Conspiracy, the darling of the prosecutor's > > nursery." There were convictions in Macon and more are > coming. Every case was made by a government agent who > instigated conduct that supported federal conspiracy charges. > > Since the Macon case, I have spoken with lawyers or accuseds > in all four other cases. It is painfully clear that the militia > movement needs to understand federal conspiracy law. This > post may not be well received. What I say here does not > comport with the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or even > published case law. But it is what happens in a federal > courtroom, where it will defeat those who do not comprehend. > > First, a group must agree never to condone or participate in > illegal activity and to exclude anyone who tries to instigate > it. These guidelines should help decide what is legal, > illegal, or could be made to look illegal by an overzealous > prosecutor and his confidential informant. > > CONSPIRACY > > A conspiracy is an agreement to do an illegal act. It is not > a signed contract, or even a handshake, but can be "tacit" - > - a wink and a nod, an unspoken understanding. It can mean > nothing more than holding military training one day and > discussing the Russian tanks at an airbase the next. > Evidence can be direct or circumstantial, and a jury can > infer whatever the government wants them to believe. > > One person can think about and plan any illegal act. He can > have diagrams of buildings, maps to the prospective victims' > houses, but without a substantive step (attempt) or request > for help (solicitation), there is no crime. (Though if > someone else does it, the diagrams and maps mean trouble.) > > For two people together, a wishful dream is a conspiracy. > Two people in the library reading about explosives could be > charged with conspiracy to manufacture explosives. This > violates the first amendment, but Hizzoner will not agree. > > DEFENSE AGAINST FEDERAL OFFICIALS > > It is illegal to defend yourself against a federal official > who is acting within the scope of his job. He can violate > regulations and the constitution, but if he is on duty, you > do not have the right to strike back. Citizens are expected > to be arrested and fight it out later in court. > > This is horrible, but it is the law. That is not to say that > I would go quietly to the gas chambers. There may come a > time to break this law, but it is still the law. One can > only defend against a fed if he is acting outside the scope > of his job, "on a frolic", like attempting date rape. A > frolicking fed is like anyone else and can be met with force > neccessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury. > > CONSPIRACY TO DEFEND > > The combination of these laws means that getting together to > prepare to defend against federal officials is as conspiracy, > particularly if there is any talk of explosives. If a group > of people vocally criticize the federal government and engage > in so-called para-military training, this conspiracy can be > "inferred." An Assistant U.S. Attorney will not have to be > a rocket-scientist to make an inference that the government > is who they plan to fight. The public is so poorly educated > that jurors are easily terrified. > > It is legal to resist a fed only when he is not acting as a > fed, but as anyone else. Studying self defense against any > and all attackers, not the feds or even the U.N., is legal > and was the purpose for the constitutional militias. > > Any group doing both public education and training with the > same people and the same leaders is asking for indictment. > > DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE > > Intent to start "a war with the federal government" can been > "proven" by the video tapes, books, speeches, radio shows, > that the movement produces. The Vipers were indicted based > on a video that one of them produced. The movement custom > of videotaping every speech should be curtailed, and nothing > taped with even a hint of impending violence. > > If you have a tape like this around, you are not required to > keep it secure. Once an investigation starts, or a > subpoena issues, it will be obstruction of justice to destroy > it. A spy thriller taped over it will have more information > on the satellite tracking systems, electronic interception, > and other high-tech spy methods than a speech about targets, > and six guys with rifles will be picked off real quick if the > government ever makes all out war against its citizens. > > They are not going to round up all dissidents at once but > are picking off one group at a time, by using informants. > > CATCHING THE CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANTS > > Think of the momentum for freedom if in 1997 five government > paid confidential informants (CI's) were publicly exposed > trying to provoke crimes before anyone else got in trouble. > > Have a notary at your meeting, and ask all participants to > swear to and sign an affidavit that they are not affiliated > in any way with law enforcement or are in law enforcement > and there for personal interest; and that they will not > provoke illegal conduct. If this is a lie, it will show in > court that this person committed perjury. > > Assign a few responsible people as security, and identify > them with badges or hats. Tell participants that anyone who > suggests illegal acts should be reported to security, who > will then investigate the troublemaker and decide how to > proceed. Some troublemakers just needs attention and a > talking to, others will need to be excluded, and a call to > the Sheriff may be in order if you suspect a CI. > > A group with resources can thoroughly investigate a > troublemaker -- criminal background (informants almost always > have records), whom he or she meets with, where his or her > money comes from, etc. If you find unexplained cash and > meetings with a guy in a Taurus as soon as your meeting is > over, you've probably caught a CI. DO NOT threaten or in > any way disclose what you know, but get as much good press > out of this as you can. The CI might be taped trying to > provoke illegal conduct, but only a trained interviewer > should try this and the plan must be documented. Do not > incriminate yourself trying to catch the CI on tape. > > Once you've got the evidence, send a letter to the Sheriff, > the local U.S. Attorney's office, B.A.T.F., and F.B.I. This > will force them to disclose it to defense attorneys, under > Brady v. Maryland, if the CI ever tries to make a case > against your group. Then, get it out on the radio. Invite > the CI onto a local talk show, and confront him on the air. > > Send a letter to the public defender's office, informing > them of this transaction, without details. They will know > about Brady material on the CI, but the U.S. Attorney will > still have to disclose it. Do not disclose it for him. > > LOVE THY NEIGHBOR > > A CI is a highly manipulative person who preys on the weak. > One CI working for minimum wage and driving 100 miles twice > a week for meetings, took an entire family out for dinners > to win them over. It worked, and nobody even questioned > where the money came from. > > If someone in your group is in trouble, a responsible and > caring person should help through the crisis, before a clever > CI can ingratiate himself and gain control of his psyche. > > CONCLUSION > > The public needs to know what happened during the past year. > The convictions in Macon prove that the average person does > not understand the lengths to which the government goes to > create a case against those who speak out against it. The > only way they will understand is if future entrapments are > prevented and CI's are exposed attempting to manufacture > crime. Only then will infiltrating law abiding groups become > an unacceptable risk for the government. > > In Liberty, > > ======================================================= > Nancy Lord, M.D. > Attorney at Law > defense@macon.mindspring.com > Pager: 800-975-8520 > Temporary office location: > 191 East Broad Street > Suite 210 > Athens, Georgia 30601 > 706-548-9630 > > "The purpose of the jury is to prevent the oppression by the government." > Duncan v. Louisiana, Supreme Court, 1968. > ======================================================= [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: FCC Public File Auto-FAQ Date: 01 Jan 1997 00:58:23 PST This "FAQ" is auto-posted once a month via cron triggered script, and may be triggered off by hand from time to time in between if the info is requested by someone, such as when the House recently voted down the AW Ban and the Media threw a hissy fit. The purpose of this FAQ is to inform people what they can do about Media generated lies and misinformation. While the FCC only handles Broadcast Media, (TV and Radio), some of these techniques will work for magazines and newspapers too. If I've missed something, or you find errors, let me know and I'll add/fix it. 1.a. Send letters of complaint to the Station Manager every time it happens with all the time, details, other info, and your complaint(s). 1.b. Send an additional copy for their FCC (Federal Communications Commission) Public file. 1.c. Send an additional copy to the FCC itself, in case they don't put it in their Public file. 2.a. Send a letter of complaint to their Station Owner as per above, with copies as per above (1.b and 1.c). 3. Send copies of their replies to you along with yours to them to their FCC Public file, so that it gets nice and fat, again, with copies to the FCC itself. 4. If you can afford it, send all corespondence by Certified Mail with Return Receipt Requested. Send a copy of the Return Receipt with everything that goes to the FCC itself, so that they will have additional evidence if the Station is cheating on their Public File. 5.a. Go to the Public Library and look up "Standard Rate and Data Services" (SRDS) "Directory of National Advertisers." It is found in many major Libraries (in the business/reference stacks), and lists EVERY current advertiser, who the players are at both the company and advertising agency(s), and the appropriate telephone and fax (and probably E-Mail by now) addresses. If your Library doesn't have it, it can be requested. Otherwise you can watch their commercials for a few days to a week, listing all their advertisers. There are other references that have the addresses for the nation's business headquarters too. look them all up and pass the addresses and phone/FAX numbers etc., around so that everyone can bitch to the sponsors. IF enough people do that, it'll get back to the Station. Tell them if the Station continues their nastiness you'll _consider_ changing to brand(X), (otherwise they'll just write you off as a loss). 5.b. The above, (5.a.), can be a lot easier and less time consuming if you're dealing with a newspaper's or a magazine's ads, as they are right in front of you for the listing. 6. If they put on something good or even just more reasonable, call and compliment them on it, but do _not_ send any kudos to their FCC file, or write to them about it. That way they have to keep it up and hope, as there is nothing good in the file or in writing that they can show the FCC to justify their Station's License. 7. Federal Communications Commission, Complaints and Compliance Division Room 6218, 2025 M Street NW Washington, D.C. 20554 FAX: 202-653-9659 FCC Attn: Edythe Wise -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | The _only_important_difference_ between Nazi-ism, Fascism, weapon in every | Communism, Communitarianism, Socialism and (Neo-)Liberalism hand = Freedom | is the _spelling_, and that the last group hasn't got the on every side! | Collective brains to figure it out. -- Bill Vance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Re: From Nancy Lord MD JD: No More Indictments (fwd) Date: 01 Jan 1997 10:22:53 -0800 >As I understand conspiracy it requires two elements: > 1. Agreement to do an illegal act, and > 2. An act in furtherance of that agreement. > >If two people talk about blowing up a building and one person calls the >hardware store to get the price on the wire needed, it is a conspiracy. >Number 2 is very vague and, as this writer points out, nearly anything can >be construed as "furtherance" including buying a book or making a diagram. >> > > >S. Let's just say that "nearly" anything is more factually simply anything. For example, you got out of bed this morning. Let's also make it clear that you don't really have to agree to do an illegal act; even talking in the "what if" frame of mind is sufficient. The sooner we realize that we are no longer living in a lawful Constitutional Republic where our government is bound by the law, the sooner more of us are likely to survive what's coming. - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Predictions for 1997 Date: 01 Jan 1997 13:29:15 -0800 Published in Washington, D.C. January 1, 1997 Focus on Politics EDITORIAL Gag predictions for 1997 Editor's note: Tom Lehrer once said that with the re-election of Richard Nixon, satire had lost all meaning. The creator of such enduring classics as "Pollution," "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park," "Werner von Braun" (" 'Once I get rockets up, who cares vhere dey come down / Dat's not my department,' said Wener von Braun") and of course "Smut" ("As the judge remarked the day that he acquitted my Aunt Hortense, / in order for it to be smut / it must be utterly without redeeming social importance") then packed up his piano and went back to his day job as a professor of mathematics. At The Washington Times' editorial page, the re-election of Bill Clinton calls forth similar sentiments: Oh, Mr. President, not another multi-hundred-thousand dollar illegal Asian contribution! Or: She can't remember that, either? The Clinton White House has become a parody of itself. But faith, gentle readers: No quitters here. There are traditions to be preserved. And without further ado, here are The Times' New Year's Day predictions for 1997. The San Jose Mercury News will publish an investigative report claiming that D.C. Mayor Marion Barry's recent Asian trade mission was actually part of a CIA plot to introduce crack cocaine into China. White House logs will reveal that Saddam Hussein attended a coffee with President Clinton two days after the Iraqi leader wrote a check for $5 million to the Democratic National Committee. The president will insist he had no idea Saddam was included in the group: "Fella with the moustache, didja say?" The Hawaii Supreme Court will uphold Michael Jackson's right to clone himself, undergo a sex change operation and marry the clone. Following Saddam's visit to the White House, President Clinton will make Texas off limits for oil production by declaring the entire state a national monument. Boutros Boutros-Ghali will announce that he is accepting a position as head of the Black Helicopter division of Lockheed Martin. The Secret Service will arrest two children who approach the president and ask if he'll be standing in for Rudolf the Red-nosed Reindeer next Christmas. The Redskins will replace fired defensive coach Ron Lynn with former special associate White House counsel Mark Fabiani. Declaring he cannot tell the difference between one prevaricator and another, political consultant Dick Morris will go to work for Saddam Hussein. Alger Hiss will deny that he is now, or ever has been, dead. White House logs will reveal that North Korean leader Kim Jong-il spent a night in the Lincoln bedroom two days after the North Korean Communist Party donated $2 million to the Democratic National Committee. The president will insist he had no idea "who the little Korean guy in PJs was. I thought he was a friend of Gore's." The Disney board of directors will cancel the $90 million golden parachute given to recently ousted president Michael Ovitz and announce the funds will be used instead to offer health insurance for employees' pets. Toy manufacturer Mattel will try to capitalize on the two most notorious toy episodes of Christmas 1996 by introducing "Eat Me Elmo." Caught chopping down a cherry tree behind the White House, Al Gore will say, "I cannot tell a lie. I thought it was a community outreach event." Frustrated by running out of space, Chicago Bulls' forward Dennis Rodman will get a life-sized tattoo of himself and start over again. White House logs will reveal that Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi and Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan played a round of golf with President Clinton two days after Col. Gadhafi made a donation of $14 million to the Democratic National Committee. The president will insist, "I had no idea who those two guys were, especially the fella with the bow tie. I though maybe they were the Mafia. They wouldn't let me take a single Mulligan." Barbra Streisand will produce, direct and play the title role in a remake of "Lolita." In honor of the new United Nations secretary-general, Starbucks will introduce two new beverages, the Kofi Annan and the Dekofi Annan. O.J. Simpson's black sports bag, missing since he left for Chicago the day of the murders of Nicole Simpson and Ronald Goldman, will turn up on a table in the book room of the White House. Snoop Doggy Dogg will record a children's album featuring rap tracks "John Jacob Mother****** Schmidt" and "99 Vials of Crack on the Wall." Democratic National Committee co-chairman Sen. Christopher Dodd will announce that Lincoln Bedroom time shares at the White House are available for $500,000 each. Michael Jackson's baby will be the first ever to have plastic surgery in the womb. New York City taxi drivers will petition the state of New York to compel city schools to teach in the cabbies' own language, "Italics." Mary Matalin will drop everything to promote her new bestseller, "Life With a Rabid Pit Bull." James Carville will top the charts with his country single, "Mary, Don'tcha Love This Puppy No More?" White House logs will reveal that Fidel Castro had dinner with the first couple in the White House residence two days after a donation of $1 million to the Presidential Legal Expense Trust. The president will insist, "I had no idea who he was, but he sure got awful funny when I offered him a cigar." George Stephanopoulos' Columbia classroom will be occupied by desperate demonstrators demanding the name of his hair stylist. An enterprising Star reporter posing as a male nurse will gain access to Bill Clinton's medical records and reveal that he has a tiny space alien living in the tip of his nose. Strobe Talbott will resign from the State Department in disgust after diplomats leaving Foggy Bottom for negotiations rub his bald pate for luck once too often. The Landmarks Preservation Commission will designate 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue a national historic bed & breakfast. Former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Harold Ickes will win the first annual James T. Hoffa Public Service Award. After the Supreme Court rules that Bill Clinton is immune from charges of sexual harassment, the president will be signed by Geffen Records to produce a CD single of his heart-rending saxophone version of "Have You Met Miss Jones?" Al Gore will be hospitalized for trauma after a flock of pigeons mistakes him for a California Redwood. George Stephanopoulos' White House memoir will win a Pulitzer after the prize jury moves the book from the category of History to Fiction. Webster Hubbell will bring tears to the eyes of the jury in his perjury trial with his soulful rendition of "What I Did for Love." The Clintons will move temporarily into Blair House after the Secret Service discovers that Dick Morris took advantage of his many White House visits to hide video cameras in strategic locations throughout the building and grounds. Caught in a compromising position with Barbra Streisand in the Lincoln Bedroom, Al Gore will swear he thought it was a community outreach event. Unable to find a comparable job in the private sector, fired White House security director Craig Livingstone will form his own company, "Bouncers 'R' Us," with offices in New York, Washington, and Jakarta, Indonesia. After lengthy deliberations, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Chairman Yasser Arafat will reach a final accord declaring that Mr. Arafat will shave and Mr. Netanyahu will stop the confusion and officially change his name to "Bibi." Glenn Close and Michael Douglas will star in "Irrational Exuberance," the true-life story of the tempestuous courtship of Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and NBC correspondent Andrea Mitchell from the makers of "Fatal Attraction." Newt Gingrich will shed 40 pounds, resign the House speakership and become a celebrity spokesman for wonder diet drug Fen-Phen. Spinmeisters at the Democratic National Committee will issue a press release announcing that the DNC has foiled a plot to take over the world by returning a $2.7 million contribution from Pinky and the Brain. The San Jose Mercury News will publish an investigative report claiming that the Central Intelligence Agency is responsible for introducing Ebonics into the Oakland community. Go back to the top of this article. Published January 1, 1997, in The Washington Times Copyright c 1997 News World Communications, Inc. - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lball@unlinfo.unl.edu (larry ball) Subject: Taking The Offensive. Date: 01 Jan 1997 18:04:49 -0600 (CST) I don't know how many of you agree with me on this, but my theory is that one of the main causes of the demise of our liberties, responsibilities and authority as citizens is that we keep passing off these "citizen qualities" to super humans. Super humans? Yes, judges, attorneys, intellectuals, social scientists are all being allowed to take on more authority and exercise some sort of caretaker society over us. That "caretaking society" is limiting our freedom of speech, right to life, political liberty, and our right to property or the pursuit of pleasure. Political correctness, social engineering, gun control, all of these things are being spawned in this "caretaker society." But Law that was established to protect lawful citizens and their basic rights, is not being enforced. Our judges are acting with great stupidity and irresponcibility. Won writer (if I need to I will find the cite) has opined that the American Revolution was fought because the English would not enforce JUST law. When you read the Declaration of Independence I think that you will have to conclude that this is correct. Well, Internet Freak, maybe it is time to get even. maybe, just maybe, we can start a peaceful rebellion right now in January 1997. Judge Requist today called for an increase in the salaries for federal judges. It seems that their current salary of $133,000.00 per year is not adequate to keep our "good" judges happy or properly compensated. "Good" judges? I think that we should give them a pay cut. Let 'em quit and become part of the homeless problem as far as I am concerned. We have seen how our "good" judges in the Ninth Circuit have concluded that the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a State right not a personal right. We have seen the Eighth Circuit court has agree with the Ninth. We have now seen the US Supreme Court refuse to hear a case that contested this view. By refusing to hear the issue they seem to have affirmed the correctness of the ruilings by the Ninth and the Eighth. Ergo: we have no right to keep and bear arms. What can we do? We can catalog dumb rulings by the courts around America. We can begin to demand from our congress critters that the judges not be given a raise. We can write about the dumb rulings and distribue them locally asking the recipients to also contact congress and demand that no raises be given. I would imagine that many of you have a FAX/Modem. Get on the telephone, call insurance offices, accountants offices, anybody you can think of and ask this question: "WHAT'S YOUR FAX NUMBER?" With just that question many will give you the number. put it on your telephone list in the fax program. I did this and came up with 300 numbers. When I write something that I want to get out to people, I punch the appropriate button and 300 faxes go out. (Punch the button as you go to bed. Your fax will work all night and all day- hmmm an old calypso number I believe) Anyway, If we were to publish judicial stupidity to as many people as we can and ask them to tell their congress person "NO RAISES!" maybe we could start getting an effective message through. And do not forget we might even be able to energize more of the internet. Any takers? Larry Ball lball@unlinfo.unl.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Senator Jon Kyl Date: 01 Jan 1997 18:01:26 -0800 Dear Friends, We need a Senator who is brave enough to write key position papers, of any length, and load them into a fax-on-demand server, with a free 800 number for anyone in Arizona area codes to call, and download to their fax machine(s). Imagine if Rep. Barbara Kennelly made her famous letter available in this fashion? She would be the talk of her district, without any doubt. Here's my proposal: "Dear Constituent: "Recent research has proven to my satisfaction that the federal income tax is completely voluntary. I made my position clear to you before being elected, and I believe the voters elected me in part because of this position. "If you wish to remove yourself from this system, please dial our fax-on-demand server at 1-800-123-4567 and request document #54321. "The document you will receive from this server will give you detailed instructions for removing yourself from this voluntary system. "If you have any trouble with the IRS after signing and serving these documents with that organization, please contact my office at once. "I have assigned a full-time administrative assistant to guide you through the process, and to help you with any problems that may arise. His direct telephone number is (800) 987-5432. We will pay for that telephone call, from funds allocated for administration of my office. "If you are not a Constituent, please call our pay-per-call number: (900) 987-5432, which will charge $2.00 per minute to your regular telephone bill. Those funds will help us to defray the costs of serving my Constituents directly on this, and other matters of importance to Them. "I hereby commit myself to defending You against any unlawful action(s) by the IRS. I also commit to testifying on Your behalf in any civil or criminal action which the IRS may try to bring against You for following the instructions You obtained from my office. "You have my permission to enter this letter, and the fax-on-demand instructions, into evidence in all courts of law, to demand judicial notice of them, and to serve these documents on officials of the IRS, the U.S. Department of Justice, and the U.S. Department of the Treasury as well. "Good luck, and please continue to utilize the computer-assisted communication channels we have set up just for You, and which we intend to continue improving with the very kinds of information and services which You want most from the U.S. Senate. "And, please tell everyone where you got this information. It is my great honor to serve you in this fashion." "Respectfully submitted, /s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell" United States Senator (maybe someday) P.S. Please call John E. Trumane too, to express Your appreciation for the fine job which he did programming our fax-on-demand server, using input from Constituents like Yourself. At 08:34 AM 1/1/97 MST, you wrote: >On Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:17:57 -0800 Paul Andrew Mitchell said: >>I am now officially opposed to >>his candidacy for any public office, >>because of the ridiculous letter >>I got from him today. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >> > >Has everyone else also had the problem of Kyl not getting back to them >for many weeks, if not months after you have contacted his office? Is >does not make any difference if you e-mail, snail mail, or call his >office, it still takes far too long to get a reply from Kyl. And I do >agree that Kyl thinks we are all too stupid to own weapons of any kind. > > >Tim Bruder > >>> >>>Kyl also doesn't think we're to be trusted with self defense weapons. >>> >>>I don't think we need a senator that clearly doesn't believe in a free >>>citizenry... >>> > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sabutigo Subject: Re: Predictions for 1997 Date: 01 Jan 1997 18:41:36 -0800 (PST) At 01:29 PM 1/1/97 -0800, you wrote: >Published in Washington, D.C. January 1, 1997 Focus on Politics > > EDITORIAL > Gag predictions for 1997 > >The Disney board of directors will cancel the $90 million golden parachute >given to recently ousted president Michael Ovitz and announce the funds >will be used instead to offer health insurance for employees' pets. Actually it will only cover the pets that they sleep with. (Woof! Look Lassie's trying to tell me something!) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lball@unlinfo.unl.edu (larry ball) Subject: Re: Predictions for 1997 Date: 01 Jan 1997 21:12:37 -0600 (CST) Under Disney's Health Package they may need the extra money. They have adopted the same sex marital coverage; to it could be big Brucie and little Rex and Billy, Jimmy, and Billery, and well who knows but they may need the aid for the AIDS Larry Ball lball@unlinfo.unl.edu > > At 01:29 PM 1/1/97 -0800, you wrote: > >Published in Washington, D.C. January 1, 1997 Focus on Politics > > > > EDITORIAL > > Gag predictions for 1997 > > > > > >The Disney board of directors will cancel the $90 million golden parachute > >given to recently ousted president Michael Ovitz and announce the funds > >will be used instead to offer health insurance for employees' pets. > > Actually it will only cover the pets that they sleep with. (Woof! Look > Lassie's trying to tell me something!) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lew Glendenning Subject: Drug Czar: Guilty of Treason ? !! Date: 01 Jan 1997 22:05:09 -0900 Drug Czar: Guilty of Treason ? !! Date: Tue, 31 Dec 96 23:03:10 GMT From: igoddard@erols.com (Ian Goddard) Organization: Erol's Internet Services Newsgroups: misc.activism.militia I just received this important analysis from ERIC E. SKIDMORE: -------------forwarded message------------------------------ Is Drug "Bizarre" General Barry McCaffrey guilty of Treason against the United States? Consider the following and decide for yourself: In early September he declared...."The voters in this country should not be expected to decide which medicines are safe and effective." Article IV, Section 4, of the Constitution of the United States of America says..."The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion..." (Not only has Barry failed to guarantee a Republican form of government but he actively seeks to destroy it!!) Article X...Bill of Rights..."The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." (Where does it say we can't decide which plants are safe and efficacious? The government obviously doesn't know the LD-50 ratio of marijuana. 40,000:1) Article I, Bill of Rghts..."Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..." (Considering there's no rational reason for the Treasonous War on the United States associated with Cannabis sativa there can only be an irrational "religious" purpose. Since the Clinton-McCaffrey regime considers "marijuana" to be "the forbidden fruit of the Garden of Eden of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil..." this constitutes the establishment of a state "religion," albeit a "Thou shalt not" pseudo religion from an obviously god-less regime. The new religion is statolatry....(worship of the state) and its alien adherents are called statolaterers. Article III, Section 3. "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." >>>Doesn't the "so-called" War on Drugs, the prosecution of doctors, and the helicopter harassment of citizens, the unlawful search and seizures, the hiring of informants--"land pirates," constitute..."levying war against them?" (Making inanimate objects, i.e., drug-plant materials into enemies is so ludicrous we have to go back to degenerate Roman Emperors to find an analogy.) Now you know why the "drug-warriors" are fighting so viciously as they collapse. By law they should be in Court. Art. III, Sec. 3, clause 2,..."The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason." Asking these bozos to declare the punishment for declaring drug war Treason is like asking the foxes to guard the chickens. They're an intricate part of the Treason. (Real fear is being right when your government is wrong.) Can anyone dispute this? EES "People who trust their rights to their government, neither deserve nor can expect to enjoy them." -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Unresolved questions - was Re: Kwanzaa, again! Date: 01 Jan 1997 18:15:00 -0800 Larry, You make a comment I have a bit of a problem with. [...] We did not take their land. To say this would be to say that the indians had title deed to the land. They did not. Many (such as the Sioux) became nomadic and savage. They practiced pillage and rapine of all who they confronted. Look at the history of the Pawnee for this reference. [...] In your statement, "They practiced pillage and rapine of all who they confronted." But the fact remains, that they had a system of government that allowed such things, even if we don't recognize it as such. The Europeans were not intimate players, and were not invited to become part. They were merely ignorant, pushy, beligerant bystanders who ultimately invited themselves to 'take charge'. And along comes European man, and lays claim to what he does _not_ have legal title to, and proceeds to make _lawful_ claim? In all but a few famous instances, Manhattan Island, being one of them, land was not legally obtained - it was thieved. There was no lawful claim under the aboriginal form of government, which europeans paid no homage to, made no attempt to understand, and even went so far as to cast asunder in an attempt to ignore what they really knew did in fact exist. They chose to ignore what they lawfully knew did exist in order to extinguish it. I will grant you this: The two players, aboriginal and the outsiders were playing the same game - might makes right, _but_ the outsiders were not invited players and thus are essentially thieves. To reiterate, the europeans did not ask to join, played the insiders one-against-the-other, and used every dirt little trick in the book, AND claimed ignorance to boot to underhandedly wipeout any evidence of knowledge aforethought of preexisting government, to pretend ownership of someone elses property. Yup! We be real (as in Real Estate) goode (as in got those goods!), eh? And, by the way, Larry? The socialists are playing the same game with the rest of America. They are taking things in exactly the same way, only this time they are using OUR laws to screw us - a little at a time. Ever notice how much the Constitution is all but ignored? Feel the pain, and see the light. Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Fallout From New Law Continues Date: 02 Jan 1997 04:04:42 -0800 >LI> As per usual, my consternation stems from >LI> inaction on the part of my cohorts on the web. >LI> So many smart guys. So little action taken. >LI> Michael G. Boone Michael, How true, indeed! /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's Date: 02 Jan 1997 05:51:02 -0800 Re: "Who's going to pay the bills in this society?" This question is a very common one, and it does reflect the consequences of foisting a very deep and effective deception on the American People about the fate of income tax collections. The Grace Commission proved that none of those revenues goes to pay for ANY government services. Most recently, we have traced the "IRS" to Trust #62 domiciled in Puerto Rico under the Federal Alcohol Administration, which was declared unconstitutional in 1935. (The "IRS" is not part of the U.S. Treasury, which can be confirmed by reading Title 31, United States Code, from start to end.) By abolishing the federal income tax, Congress will reap a windfall, because all that money will stay in the country, boosting our economy in manifold ways, instead of laundering its way to the IMF in Belgium, or the Vatican. For more information, visit the Supreme Law Library at URL http://www.supremelaw.com and read the interview with John E. Trumane by Susan B. Anthony. Enjoy! /s/ Paul Mitchell At 08:56 PM 1/1/97 -0800, you wrote: >borkum1@juno.com wrote: >> >> > I have researched the tax laws thoroughly and have found >> >NOTHING requiring a mandatory filing and paying of "income" taxes by >> private >> >non-incorporated citizens. I have represented several people before >> >the IRS demanding they rebut my findings if I am wrong, and in 3 years >> they >> >have failed to do that, and also failed to take any further action >> against >> >the people I represented, which is tacit admission that I am correct in >> my >> >findings. So if it doesnt belong to "Caesar" at all, we are not bound >> >to >render unto "him". >> >> OK! Good Deal! >> Let's all stop paying income tax! >> >> Uh, who's going to pay the bills in this society? > >Nothing personal, but your education is showing. Not your fault--you >got >it the same place the rest of us did. The only difference is that >some of us have recently learned to discard it and start over. >Your best bet is to repeat after me "everything we know is wrong..." > >> >> Let's quit registering our vehicles! > >'registration' is a transfer of ownership to the state. still sound >good? > >> >> Uh, who's going to make sure OTHER drivers are insured and not driving > >insurance is a means to 'limited liability' -- not allowed for free >men (and women) at common law. you are responsible for all your >debts, including damage to others. Therre is however _assurance_ >but understanding that must wait until you have done some more >forgetting. > >> stolen cars? And, uh, how are we going to finance road building and > >registration doesn't do that now. how dumb do you imagine bad guys >are? > >> repair? > >gas 'tax' is where road building comes from. follow up the way >registration fees and traffic citation money is spent--not pretty. > >> >> Let's quit getting driver's licenses! > >good idea. you don't actually use it anyway unless you drive >for hire. licensing is for _commercial_ use of the public roads. >private use has already been ruled by the courts numerous times >to be a _right_. (rights can not be licensed--think about it). > >> >> Uh, how can I know the OTHER driver has been trained to drive, and can >> see pedestrians and other cars (mine)? > >you can't, but life is like that. at the common law there is no >limited liability, so when you kill someone and the jury thinks >you were reckless in that you had absolutely no training in >how a car works or were drunk at the time, their ruling _should_ >be to put you to death--that is the nature of _unlimited liability_. >I dare say, DEATH as a penalty for reckless endagerment on the >roads would very quickly stop all drunk driving. Agreed? > >Our entire system of statutes is founded on one >wrong-thinking concept: limited liability. It is >imposible to train men and women to live responsibly >when they are not made responsible by the law. >But here's the rub: Freedom = liability. > >I would be happy to correspond with you more if you like. > >Leslie Rohde >a man living at the common law, and liable as hell for it > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Habeas Project for Political Prisoners Date: 02 Jan 1997 09:57:42 -0800 [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] For Immediate Release January 2, 1997 Supreme Law Firm Announces Habeas Project for Political Prisoners by Paul Andrew Mitchell All Rights Reserved (January 1997) Payson, Arizona. The founder of a new legal cooperative -- the Supreme Law Firm -- today announced a new project to bring their Supreme Law School into federal prisons, for the benefit of all political prisoners. The Habeas Project, founder Paul Mitchell's brain child, will leverage the growing enrollment of the School to identify sponsors who will forward study materials to prisoners, on a one-on-one basis, and act as mentors and counselors. "The incarceration rate in this country is a national scandal of immense proportions," Mitchell stressed. "The silver lining is that most political prisoners now have more reading and study time than ever before. We intend to restore freedom to each and every one of these prisoners, by teaching them the Supreme Law of the Land." Paul Mitchell points to former inmate Alan Stang, who found time in federal prison to write the ground- breaking book "Tax Scam." Stang was jailed for a "tax crime." Mitchell recently launched the Supreme Law School, an Internet-based advanced curriculum for students and advocates of new developments in American Constitutional Law, as applied to current state and federal cases. Enrollment in the School is pre-paid in increments of one month, with a sponsor credit system for students who enlist others to enroll as well. Students can "drop-in" or "drop-out" as often as they want. Credits can be converted to cash or assigned to other projects of the Supreme Law Firm. For example, credits can be assigned to purchase postage for prisoners, who always need help with the simple expenses of answering mail and filing legal papers. "We are looking for generous and conscientious Americans who will enroll in the Supreme Law School, and then sponsor one or more political prisoners, whose special needs they will address," added Mitchell. "We want the Freedom Movement in America to remember those who were swept under the rug by a cruel and unusual regime of star chambers, entrapment, lies, extortion, and pseudo authorities. This regime is fast approaching a fascist dictatorship, and education in Law is a necessary ingredient to restoring the constitutional Republic which America was always designed to be, and to remain." More information about the Supreme Law Firm, and the Supreme Law School, can be obtained by directing electronic mail ("email") to , or writing to: Supreme Law School: Internet Group Attention: Habeas Project c/o 2509 North Campbell Avenue, #1776 Tucson, Arizona Republic Postal Zone 85719/tdc # # # ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Senator Jon Kyl Date: 02 Jan 1997 10:47:54 -0800 >Paul Andrew Mitchell, > >We have corresponded in the past. What you are asking for will >simply not occur. Each Representative and Senator only have limited >funds to run their offices. > >For a specific need involving the IRS, you would need funding to >run an office for that purpose. Somehow the IRS would find a way >to run it. > >Wouldn't that be interesting calling the IRS to voluntarily drop >yourself from taxation? I can hear the recording now, "WE are >very concerned about your interests, please stay on the line and >the next available operator will assist you. The waiting time >for an operator is approximately six weeks." > > Posted by: Douglas Walker Doug, I am still laughing as I read this. You have a wonderful sense of humor. "Thank you for holding. Our Puerto Rican alcohol administrator will be with you in approximately ... 3,845 hours! Please stay on the line." On a serious note, I am willing to gamble that the first Senator or Representative to provide such a fax-on-demand server, and dedicated staff member, will have the field all to himself. This means that the ratio of calls from Non-Constituents (NC) to calls from Constituents (C) would be rather high, say 10-to-1, or higher. If the NC's must call a 900 number, and the C's get to call an 800 number, I believe the 900 number would pay for itself quickly. Moreover, our brave pathfinder would find a lot of voluntary assistance pouring in from tax resistance organizations all over the country. Thus, the 900/800 numbers could act as a clearinghouse for paralegals, counselors at law, attorneys, lawyers, and all the rest, to ride the turning tide. You may have misunderstood something which I wrote: the 900/800 numbers would ring in the Senator's or Representative's office, NOT at the IRS. Can you see ANY jury convicting someone of a "tax crime," if he shows the jury that he relied on a written communication from his U.S. Senator, and that very same Senator testified at his trial and told the jury that he, the Senator, told the defendant it was okay not to file? /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: December Education Reporter (fwd) Date: 02 Jan 1997 11:40:07 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From eagle@eagleforum.org Thu Jan 2 00:39:41 1997 X-Sender: eagle@accessus.net (Unverified) Education Reporter -- The Newspaper of Education Rights -- Number 131 December 1996 Parents Want Goals 2000 Funds Returned Town Controversy Causes 46 Children to Be Pulled Out of Public Schools PANA, IL - In a small town in central Illinois, 526 parents signed a petition to the school board demanding that "all Goals 2000 funds be returned" and that "the school district implement strict academic standards which include systematic phonics, traditional math, English, science and a factual history curriculum." The town of 6,000 residents has been drawing 500 to 600 parents to school board meetings. Forty-six children have been removed from the four public schools in Pana, IL, by their parents in favor of homeschooling or placement in one of the community's four private religious schools. The controversy began over the administering of intrusive psychological tests and counseling in Pana's two elementary schools, junior high, and high school. At the beginning of the school year, the Pana School Board hired Debra Blumthal, a counselor from Charleston, IL, as "Pana Community Unit 8 School Counselor." A letter to parents stated that she was "planning and coordinating classroom 'guidance activities' and events" to "foster healthy relationships and enrich school life." A few of the "guidance activities" listed included "conflict resolution, self-motivation, wellness, and self-esteem" programs. At the bottom of the letter was a permission slip for parents to sign to allow their children to participate in the activities. Most parents had no idea that, by signing the permission slip, they were opening up a Pandora's Box of intrusive psychological testing and counseling, designed to mold their children's attitudes and gather personal information about their families. Most were also unaware that one element of the School-to-Work Opportunities Act of 1994 is the gathering of personal information on teachers, administrators, and students to be fed into databases to build dossiers for future "student career planning." Information about children's attitudes, philosophies, likes and dislikes, how they interact with their parents, whether or not their parents argue, own guns, and other extremely personal information is being gathered through questionnaires and classroom assignments across the nation. At the beginning of the school year, Pana junior high students, as well as all teachers and principals in the school district, were given a "Personality Inventory" questionnaire. The school district's counselors also began going into classrooms, instructing students to visit them at any time, and performing group as well as one-on-one counseling sessions. Many parents became concerned over the personal nature of the questions asked. In a 9th grade English class, students where given an assignment to complete a "Profile Paper" which included a section labeled "Personal Information." The section contained 15 questions ranging from what the students liked and disliked about their appearance to what type of vehicle their parents owned. Third-graders were assigned a "Bio-Poem" consisting of questions with blanks that the children were to complete. The "poem" was designed to obtain very personal information. On Line 6, the children were asked to write "three people or ideas" that they were "Lover[s] of." According to a report in the October 3rd Pana News-Palladium, kindergarten students were counseled and told to keep their sessions with counselors "secret" because, according to Blumthal, "not many kindergarten students understand the word 'confidential.' " On September 26, five Pana parents attended an education seminar held at the First Baptist Church of St. Louis. Featured speaker at the presentation was Mrs. Berit Kjos, a nationally known expert on the subject of Outcome Based Education (OBE) and author of the book Brave New Schools. Kjos explained the global effort to change the way children think in America: "Outcome Based Education, also known as mastery learning, performance- or standards-based education, is not about teaching children to read, write and do arithmetic. It's about molding the minds of children, at the earliest possible age, to think collectively - it's about replacing traditional values with a worldview where there are no absolutes. "OBE is about replacing individualism with group or consensus thinking and decision making which centers on what is best for the state, as opposed to the individual. Children who hold to traditional Judeo-Christian values will have no place in the new world order for which they are being psychologically conditioned through OBE programs in our public schools." Materials brought back from her presentation and reports from her speech from those in attendance spread quickly through Pana. By the end of the first week in October, parents had pulled a number of children out of Pana's public schools. Parents were then invited to attend a Parent-Teacher Organization (PTO) meeting on October 7. Over 250 parents attended expecting to get answers to questions about what is going on in the schools. When discussion of the counseling situation began, parents fired questions at school officials regarding the invasive counseling program and classroom assignments. Seated in front were Donna and Bill Hutto, Troy and Monica Karback, Joetta Deutsch, Kathy Bland, Jackie Foil and several other parents, who later formed an organization called Concerned Taxpayers of Pana (CTP) to demand the return of Goals 2000 funding and rid the district of OBE programs. Tempers flared when questions were skirted. At one point, Donna Hutto held up a copy of the Grassley Amendment, stating, "If the school board can't get Goals 2000 out of our district, then we can vote out the school board!" School Board President Jim Michael rushed to the microphone and, in an unprecedented move, called a special school board meeting for October 15. Michael stated that all would have an opportunity to voice their concerns and that the board would listen to questions. On October 11, leaders of the newly formed CTP met to organize, form a plan of action, and start a petition to have the school board return Goals 2000 funding and return to a "basics" curriculum. Plans were also made to hold an informational seminar for parents to bring them up to speed on OBE programs, Goals 2000, and School-to-Work (STW), and to offer alternatives for parents interested in removing their children from public schools. An estimated 300 to 400 parents and children attended CTP's first information seminar on October 14, the night before the special school board meeting. On October 15, approximately 500 parents showed up for the special school board meeting. The atmosphere was tense and two uniformed Pana police officers were on hand. Board President Jim Michael started the meeting by telling the audience that the board was not going to answer any questions, just listen to their concerns. The president of the Pana Education Association (PEA), a chapter of the National Education Association teachers' union, stated that the counseling program was a valuable tool to prepare youth to become productive members of society and that her organization wholeheartedly endorsed the present K-8 developmental counseling programs. Troy Karback, spokesperson for CTP, explained that parents were not angry with the board, administrators, or teachers, but they were very angry about the curriculum currently in use. He then read a petition signed by 450 parents demanding that the school board return all Goals 2000 funding and implement strict academic standards including systematic phonics, traditional math, English, science, and a factual history curriculum. Board rejects parents' concerns; Approves '97 Goals 2000 grant On October 21, at the school board's regular monthly meeting, about 20 people packed a small meeting room. About half the seats were filled by members of the Pana Education Association (PEA) and the remainder were filled by board members, including President Jim Michael, Superintendent Larry Marsh, and George Pintar of Professional Education Management Agency, Springfield, who was hired as a consultant to implement Goals 2000 programs in the district. Also present was Dr. Don Davis, who is believed to be associated with Pintar's consulting firm. Some 75 to 100 parents had to stand outside in the hallway. Despite protests, Michael told them that "they'll just have to listen hard" to the meeting. After roll call, Michael called for "Visitors' Considerations," which affords those in the audience the opportunity to address the board with questions or comments. However, people in the hallway couldn't hear the announcement. When no one spoke up, he moved quickly on to the next agenda point, which was "Delegations." First on the docket was PEA President Lynn Rochkes. Rochkes told the board that her organization wanted the school board to support what was currently being done with the Goals 2000 program in Pana's schools. Troy Karback, spokesperson for CTP, was next. After thanking the board for the opportunity to speak, he proceeded to present Michael with another petition demanding that Goals 2000 funds be returned to the state. The petition represented an additional 76 signatures to the 450 given to the board on October 15. Karback then informed the board that citizens were still adamantly opposed to the Goals 2000 program and CTP was gathering more opposition to the program all the time. He asked about the status of the questions posed at the October 7 meeting. Only after Karback's repeated inquiries did Michael reply that Pintar and Davis, from "the consulting firm we have had for two years," would answer the questions. George Pintar, the district's Goals 2000 consultant, gave a presentation on the '97 Goals 2000 grant proposal. Pintar stated that 50% of the grant money could be used to purchase computer equipment and the remainder could go to pay for staff (teacher) training, program research, development, evaluation, and consulting. The projected cost or amount of the grant was never mentioned. The school board then voted to approve the application for the Goals 2000 grant, and Brenda Washburn was the only member who voted no. Following the vote, there was a closed executive session. As board members left the meeting, Washburn was seen leaving in tears. Parents suspect that Washburn was lectured on breaking ranks by casting her no vote against the grant. After the meeting, Donna Hutto stated, "No one could believe that the board actually voted to approve the grant after all that has transpired. Apparently, they intend to ignore our demands and continue implementation of Goals 2000 programs regardless of parents' and taxpayers' concerns." On November 5, the Pana taxpayers defeated a $6 million bond issue to add additional classrooms to existing schools, build a new middle school, and retrofit the junior high to "support needed technology" and "new teaching methods." by Jim Day, Publisher of the St. Louis MetroVoice. ---------------------------------------------------- 1996 Elections Show Mixed Results According to a poll taken by the Washington Post before the November elections, education topped the list of Americans' worries. Over 60% of respondents agreed that the "American educational system will get worse instead of better." However, voters handily defeated reform-oriented initiatives on state ballots on November 5. Sponsors of two school choice initiatives for vouchers and charter schools in Washington state suffered defeat by a 2-1 ratio. Opponents, including the Washington affiliate of the National Education Association, argued that the proposals would lower standards and lessen accountability of charter and voucher-redeeming schools. Similar voucher proposals also failed in Oregon, Colorado, and California. In an upset, Colorado voters defeated a fiercely debated ballot measure on parental rights. Amendment 17 would have amended the Colorado Constitution to guarantee parents' inalienable right "to direct and control the upbringing, education, values, and discipline of their children." Opponents of the Parental Rights Amendment said that it would stifle educators, put child health and welfare workers on the defensive, and backlog courts with lawsuits against state agencies. Of the People, an Arlington, VA, -based parents' rights organization, sponsored the measure. President Jeffery Bell blamed its defeat on opponents' state-wide efforts to misrepresent the amendment and wrongly portray the word "discipline" as child abuse. Voters in Arkansas approved a constitutional amendment to equalize per-pupil spending across the state. In Oregon, voters rejected a measure that would have required annual testing of all students' verbal and math skills in grades 4-12. North Carolina voters overwhelmingly approved a $1.8 billion state-wide bond issue for school construction - the largest in the state's history. Robert F. Chase, president of the National Education Association, saw state election results, combined with President Clinton's reelection, as a mandate to concentrate on improving public schools. Despite millions of dollars and thousands of volunteers, national teachers' unions failed to overturn the Republican edge in Congress. Of 103 union-supported candidates, only 18 won. However, union leaders expressed optimism that GOP leaders will retreat from their 1994 promises to cut federal education funding and abolish the Department of Education. Rep. Bill Goodling, a Republican moderate from Pennsylvania and co-sponsor of the defunct CAREERS bill, hopes to persuade his colleagues to soften the conservative rhetoric against federal spending that dominated the 104th Congress. Goodling is expected to retain the chairmanship of the Economic and Educational Opportunities Committee. Mock Elections Ignite Controversy Alabama State Rep. Perry O. Hooper, state school board member Stephanie Bell, and lobbyist Richard Sellers have called for a probe of "biased teaching" in Alabama classrooms in the wake of the results of a mock presidential election. They said that parents have contacted them about biased political materials their children were given at school. Of nearly 300,000 votes cast in the state-wide school election, 139,751 went to Clinton and 118,847 to Dole. The Citizenship Trust and the Alabama PTA sponsored the mock ballot. First graders received a sheet stating that President Ronald Reagan was either a liar or "didn't have the political fortitude that Clinton showed by forcing the opposition party to back down" on the issue of a balanced budget. Another sheet passed out to high schoolers, supposedly listing the positions of Dole and Clinton, stated that Clinton supported Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and education, while Dole opposed all four. A nationwide survey released in October by the National Center for Education Information found that 42% of teachers are registered as Democrats, 30% Republicans, and 24% as independents. However, 35% of teachers identify themselves as conservatives, 39% claim to be moderates, and 25% say they are liberal. The survey reported that teachers' opinions are markedly different from the general public's: 82% of teachers versus 54% of the public oppose school choice; 42% of teachers versus 25% of the public oppose a constitutional amendment permitting spoken prayers in school; and 71% of teachers versus 47% of the public oppose allowing private, profit-making corporations to run public schools. ------------------------------------------------------------ Homeschooling Mom Acquitted in Criminal Case ANNAPOLIS, MD - A District Court judge has acquitted a mother charged with failing to educate her child. The case was the first of its kind in Maryland. On October 23, Judge James Dryden found Cheryl Anne Battles of Anne Arundel County not guilty of failing to comply with Maryland's compulsory-education law. Prosecutors had charged that her seven-year-old daughter, Emily McCann, was being short-changed because Mrs. Battles refused to allow school officials to monitor her home education. Maryland's state board of education bylaws require homeschoolers to present a portfolio of school work to public educators semi-annually or otherwise register with a private or religious school authorized by the state to supervise the child's instruction. While Mrs. Battles may have violated certain regulations, Judge Dryden ruled that she nonetheless complies with Maryland's compulsory-education law by providing "a regular and thorough" education for her daughter. A violation of regulations, continued the judge, does not deserve criminal penalties, which would have resulted in a 10-day jail term and a fine of up to $1,000. "That just seems to me to be too much," he said. Brian D. Ray, president of the National Home Education Research Institute, testified on behalf of Mrs. Battles, pointing to Emily's above-average test results in reading, language, and math. Conflict with the 72,000-student county school system arose in 1994 when school officials attempted several visits and calls to the Battles home. Mrs. Battles sued the system on the ground that such intrusions violated her constitutional rights as a parent. She said that officials insisted that she teach evolution and other topics which she opposes for religious reasons. Mrs. Battles felt that complying with the state bylaws "would be going into a partnership with the school district in the education of her child that was offensive to her religious beliefs," said David Gordon, a staff lawyer at the Home School Legal Defense Association, a Purcelville, VA, group that represented Mrs. Battles. Prosecutor Andrew V. Jezic argued that, although Mrs. Battles may be properly educating her child, acquitting her would diminish the state's power to ensure that all children are being well educated. The decision disappointed prosecutors and county school officials because it sets a precedent for the 11,000 other homeschooling families in Maryland to resist supervision. "Other parents could follow Mrs. Battles' path," lamented Darren Burns, attorney for the Anne Arundel County public school system. Jezic predicted that a flood of parents, as a result of the decision, will refuse to cooperate with school districts or provide proof that they are adequately educating their children. He said that the only way to enforce state regulations would be to file individual cases and coerce parents into court. ---------------------------------------------------- Education Briefs A school board in Morrisville, NJ, voted 6-2 to oust Planned Parenthood speakers and pamphlets from sex education classes and start teaching abstinence. A Planned Parenthood representative to the school district was shocked by the decision, who insisted that the 8th and 10th graders who take the required class must have "options" and "information" if they choose to have sex. The U.S. Supreme Court again passed up an opportunity to clarify the rights of students to deliver prayers at public school activities. The high Court let stand lower court rulings that prevented a 1994 Mississippi law authorizing "nonsectarian, nonproselytizing student-initiated voluntary prayer" during school events from taking effect. The courts left intact a portion of the law permitting student-led graduation prayers, but rejected portions covering sporting events, and assemblies. Teachers at Valley View Elementary in south Phoenix have split over whether to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in class. Some teachers contend that the U.S. flag is a symbol of discrimination, while others argue that "we're citizens of the world and not just the United States." The "entity" created by the National Governors' Association as a successor to the controversial National Education Standards and Improvement Council in Goals 2000 legislation has been named "Achieve." Achieve will function as a new national information clearinghouse and resource for states and business leaders who want to "achieve better educational outcomes." With $5 million in donations already collected from private foundations and businesses, 30 states have already submitted their testing tools and standards to the electronic clearinghouse. --------------------------------------------------- Carnegie Report Pushes for Universal Preschool NEW YORK, NY - The New York-based Carnegie Corporation's Task Force on Learning in the Primary Grades has released a report that says all children need access to two years of high-quality preschool to be successful students. "Academic self-image is shaped between the ages of 3 and 10," says the report. "Children who take an early dislike to school work or have doubts about their academic worth face disadvantage in all future learning." Shirley Malcom, co-chairman of the task force, is convinced that universal preschool for 3- and 4-year-olds is an achievable goal. "You know, 40 years ago, there was no universal kindergarten either," she said. Citing the diversity of publicly funded preschool programs supported by churches or employers, Malcom added, "The kids live in a Humpty Dumpty world. All of it is fractured - the pieces don't hang together." The report recommends that this patchwork of educational experiences needs to change. Preschool programs should complement not only what parents try to teach their children, but also with what kindergarten and elementary teachers will want to teach at school. Preschool should also work in conjunction with television programs and community activities, including church. The report also recommends: * Resource reallocation to programs that have proven to work. * Programs to teach parents how to be their child's first teacher. * High standards for elementary schools. Critics point out that it is a long-time goal of the public school establishment and the National Education Association to lower the mandatory school age and get children in school at younger and younger ages. ----------------------------------------------------------- BOOK OF THE MONTH . . . The Schools We Need and Why We Don't Have Them by E.D. Hirsch, Jr., 1996, Doubleday, 317 pp., $24.95 cloth. 1-800-323-9872. Those who want to learn more about how the public school system has failed disadvantaged children and thereby fosters social inequalities should read E.D. Hirsch Jr.'s new book called The Schools We Need. The author of the best-selling Cultural Literacy has produced an impressive critique of our public educational system which, he says, is "among the least effective in the developed world." The American education "Thoughtworld," as Hirsch calls the dressed-up yet decades-old ideas of the education establishment, "is a juggernaut that crushes the independence of the mind." The faulty, anti-knowledge theories originating in the early 20th century have been merely recycled to formulate the impressive-sounding jargon that "experts" use today. These entrenched slogans have "led to the total absence of a coherent, knowledge-based curriculum, but are nonetheless presented as novel theories based on the latest research and as remedies for the diseases they themselves have caused." Hirsch defines the public schools' deceptive vocabulary. He makes a broadside attack on the prevailing pedagogical fads that "process" should take priority over the acquisition of knowledge, that teachers do not need to know the subjects they teach, and that it is unnatural and unfair to challenge children academically through content-based curricula. Hirsch argues that requiring children to learn a core curriculum, using methods that emphasize hard work, learning facts, and passing tests, is the best and probably the only way to reduce social and economic inequalities. Neither more money nor "school choice" will do the job. The children from disadvantaged families need a core curriculum with real content if they are to become successful citizens in the information-age civilization. A child's mind is hungry for knowledge, stimulation, and learning, and it is a tragedy that schools fail to provide these things. Educators would do well to heed Hirsch's convincing and well-documented conclusions. ------------------------------------------------------- PSAT Altered to Appease Critics NEW YORK, NY - Despite denial that the Preliminary Scholastic Assessment Test (PSAT) is biased against girls, the College Board and the Education Testing Center of Princeton, NJ, have agreed to try to help girls improve their scores by including a multiple-choice section on writing skills beginning next year. FairTest of Cambridge, MA, and the American Civil Liberties Union Women's Rights Project filed a federal gender-bias complaint in 1994 with the Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights because girls tend to score lower than boys on the PSAT. As a result, 45% of boys taking the PSAT are awarded 60% of National Merit Scholarships, for which PSAT scores are the primary determinant. The groups allege that girls are thus denied equal opportunity to receive college aid. FairTest and the ACLU would also like to see the importance of the PSAT scores diminished in the National Merit selection process. They want grades and class rank to receive more attention. Girls tend to receive higher grades in school, but those statistics do not take into account the difficulty of the courses taken. Donald M. Steward, president of the College Board, said the selection process already attempts to compensate for girls' lower math scores by counting the verbal scores twice and the math score only once. "The problem in the test is the math," he said. "We would hope than women would do better in the math through education and socialization that will remove the math anxiety that many of them feel. But we can't discriminate against men in the process." Diane Ravitch, a senior research scholar at New York University and a former assistant secretary of education, blamed the parties involved in the settlement for caving in to what she calls "political manipulation." "What gave the SAT and PSAT value was the sense that they're objective," Ravitch said. The College Board is now saying "we can rig the results to try to pacify our critics." The test is given each year to over one million high school juniors and is used to award approximately 7,000 National Merit Scholarships worth a total of $27 million. ----------------------------------------------------- College Frees Itself from Federal Purse Strings GROVE CITY, PA - In an unprecedented move, Grove City College will end its participation in federal student loan programs at the end of the current academic year. The college is the first institution of higher learning to forfeit such monies from the federal government. This will free the small, private liberal arts college from 7,000 intrusive and burdensome Department of Education regulations as specified in the Title IV [student aid] of the Higher Education Act. "Our decision to withdraw from the last link to the federal program was not made lightly," said college president John H. Moore. "There's a huge range of regulations we could have become subject to and that could have led us to a lot of cost, but the reason we did it was principle. We wanted to maintain our independence." Currently, 800 of Grove City's 2,300 students receive federal student aid. A privately financed loan program underwritten by PNC Bank will replace the federal loan program. While students may borrow up to $2,625 per year in federal loans - and in some cases $4,000 per year - the Grove City College Freedom Student Loan will allow students to borrow up to $7,500 per year. Grove City College made its decision after the Department of Education announced a recertification process intended to scrutinize more heavily colleges with high loan default rates. "So they are trying to get more information from colleges," said Lee Wishing, director of communications for Grove City College. "Unfortunately, with government programs, it's one size fits all. We have one of the lowest default rates in the country, and they were trying to get information from us that we didn't want to give out - the college's financial statements, for example. We're in excellent shape, but we feel it's our private business." "All this information the federal government wanted, in our opinion, did not pertain to the loan program," Wishing continued. "All it does is drive up the costs of education because we have to pay people to gather this information for the government." Wishing said an audit showed that the length of time spent on the form ranged from a minimum of 200 hours to a maximum of 2,000 hours. ------------------------------------------------------ Should Public Schools Teach Character? LANSING, MI - In a vote of 6 to 1, the Michigan State Board of Education has adopted a controversial and long-debated character education policy that includes teaching respect, responsibility, caring, trustworthiness, civic virtue, and citizenship. The policy states that "we are in the grip of a moral crisis, a crisis of individual character. The formation of character, both individual and societal, is the responsibility of all of us." The text draws from the words of Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Martin Luther King, Jr., and other American leaders. Board President Clark Durant said he hopes schools will use the model policy to teach students about what motivated America's founders. The board hopes that the four-page document will help restore civility and moral fiber to Michigan's youth. The preamble has drawn fire for its references to religion, which are quotes taken from speeches given by George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. The document closes with a statement about "maintaining the separation of church and state." In protest, American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) lobbyist Wendy Wagenheim said, "Making a clear distinction between religious values, moral and ethical principles, and character education is not always easy. But I think it your duty as the state board of public education to explain and reinforce that distinction." The only dissenting board member expressed concern over whether the policy could inject religion into the schools. Parent Kimberly Fuga worried that the policy infringes on parents' rights. "Teaching character is a parent's privilege and responsibility and a right I personally do not delegate to this state." The policy will be sent to schools to use as they see fit. ------------------------------------------------------------- Teacher Hits Jackpot in Profanity Case ST. LOUIS, MO - A federal jury has awarded $750,000 in damages to teacher Cissy Lacks, who had been fired for allowing students to use profanity in a classroom assignment. Lacks and her lawyer, Lisa Van Amburg, sued the Ferguson-Florissant School District after the school board voted 5-2 in March 1995 to fire her for violating the student conduct code against profanity. At issue were four skits that Lacks' 11th-grade English students performed and videotaped in October 1994. At issue before the jury of six women and one man was whether the firing violated Lacks' right to free speech and whether she was a victim of race discrimination. Lacks, who is white, alleged that she angered black school officials by permitting her black students to use inappropriately raw language. The jury awarded Lacks $500,000 for the claim that a ban on classroom profanity served no legitimate scholarly purpose and that district officials failed to give her reasonable notice of steps that led to her firing. Lacks also received $250,000 for her claim of racial discrimination. Lacks said the jury "made a really important statement" on behalf of teachers. U.S. District Judge Catherine D. Perry said the schools' broad authority to prohibit student profanity did not cover students' foul language "regardless of the context." The district plans to appeal the jury awards, as well as the mandate to re-hire Lacks. The district's lawyer, Frank Susman, told jurors that the skits contained a profanity every 12 seconds, on the average. "We're talking about poems and videotapes you'll never see reprinted in the newspaper or shown on television," he said. "We all know what's acceptable behavior and what isn't." -- ====================================================================== Lyle Yarnell The 2nd Amendment: Speak now, and forever hold your piece. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Re: Don't drink Starbucks coffee Date: 02 Jan 1997 11:24:20 -0800 Mike, >>>>>>> [...] If we could organize in this way, we could turn this thing around, . . . [...] <<<<<<< Here! Here! I fully agree! I am in concurrence with that suggestion, and second that motion! Now, the very important point is to pull it off with the coordination of a large major network. I think it could be done with the cooperation of the NRA and perhaps GOA and even the SAF* and LSAS**. What we have been missing in our movement has been a coordinating comittee that would give us a heads up which would serve as a 'signal corp.' to the rest of us. The way I envision this is: The major groups collect the affecting information, process it appropriately as to the level of response required, and detail to the 'grass roots' the desired level of response, with level '1' being everyone with a measureable heartbeat getting on the horn to whomever, and 9 requiring anyone with an IQ of atleast100 doing the proper thing in the form of letters and phone calls. >>>>>>> Organization, thats what we need, I admit, that I shot from the hip on the Starbucks deal. <<<<<<< And, Mike? Sometimes shooting from the hip can save your life! * (SAF) Second Amendment Foundation ** (LSAS) Lawyers Second Amendment Society Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Homeschooler Wins against School Officials (fwd) Date: 02 Jan 1997 10:53:56 PST And now for something _really_ different, good news! :-) On Jan 2, Gene Gross -- Personal Account wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Hi Folks, I know some of you home school, so thought you would find this of interest. Ciao, Gene ================================================================= [Excerpt from Education Reporter, Dec. Issue - Eagle Forum] Homeschooling Mom Acquitted in Criminal Case ANNAPOLIS, MD - A District Court judge has acquitted a mother charged with failing to educate her child. The case was the first of its kind in Maryland. On October 23, Judge James Dryden found Cheryl Anne Battles of Anne Arundel County not guilty of failing to comply with Maryland's compulsory-education law. Prosecutors had charged that her seven-year-old daughter, Emily McCann, was being short-changed because Mrs. Battles refused to allow school officials to monitor her home education. Maryland's state board of education bylaws require homeschoolers to present a portfolio of school work to public educators semi-annually or otherwise register with a private or religious school authorized by the state to supervise the child's instruction. While Mrs. Battles may have violated certain regulations, Judge Dryden ruled that she nonetheless complies with Maryland's compulsory-education law by providing "a regular and thorough" education for her daughter. A violation of regulations, continued the judge, does not deserve criminal penalties, which would have resulted in a 10-day jail term and a fine of up to $1,000. "That just seems to me to be too much," he said. Brian D. Ray, president of the National Home Education Research Institute, testified on behalf of Mrs. Battles, pointing to Emily's above-average test results in reading, language, and math. Conflict with the 72,000-student county school system arose in 1994 when school officials attempted several visits and calls to the Battles home. Mrs. Battles sued the system on the ground that such intrusions violated her constitutional rights as a parent. She said that officials insisted that she teach evolution and other topics which she opposes for religious reasons. Mrs. Battles felt that complying with the state bylaws "would be going into a partnership with the school district in the education of her child that was offensive to her religious beliefs," said David Gordon, a staff lawyer at the Home School Legal Defense Association, a Purcelville, VA, group that represented Mrs. Battles. Prosecutor Andrew V. Jezic argued that, although Mrs. Battles may be properly educating her child, acquitting her would diminish the state's power to ensure that all children are being well educated. The decision disappointed prosecutors and county school officials because it sets a precedent for the 11,000 other homeschooling families in Maryland to resist supervision. "Other parents could follow Mrs. Battles' path," lamented Darren Burns, attorney for the Anne Arundel County public school system. Jezic predicted that a flood of parents, as a result of the decision, will refuse to cooperate with school districts or provide proof that they are adequately educating their children. He said that the only way to enforce state regulations would be to file individual cases and coerce parents into court. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Weird Laws Date: 02 Jan 1997 14:25:31 -0800 I found this accidently on a web page whilst looking for CCW laws; enjoy :) - Monte Weird American Laws Alabama * In Jasper, it is illegal for a husband to beat his wife with a stick larger in diameter than his thumb. * It is illegal to play Dominos on Sunday. * It is illegal to wear a fake moustache that causes laughter in church. * Putting salt on a railroad track may be punishable by death. Alaska * In Fairbanks, it is illegal to feed alcoholic beverages to a moose. * While it is legal to shoot bears, waking sleeping bears for the purpose of taking a photograph is prohibited. Arizona * In Tucson, it is illegal for women to wear pants. * In Globe, it is illegal to play cards in the street with a Native American. * In Glendale, it is illegal to drive a car in reverse. * In Nogales, it is illegal to wear suspenders. Arkansas * A man can legally beat his wife, but not more than once a month. * In Fayetteville, it is illegal to kill "any living creature." * Schoolteachers who bob their hair may forfeit their pay raises. * Flirtation between men and women on the streets of Little Rock may result in a 30-day jail term. California * In Los Angeles, a man may legally beat his wife with a leather strap, as long as it is less than two inches wide, or she gives him permission to use a wider strap. * It is a misdemeanor to shoot at any kind of game from a moving vehicle, unless the target is a whale. * In Pacific Grove, "molesting" butterflies can result in a $500 fine. * In Pasadena, it is illegal for a secretary to be alone in a room with her boss. * It is illegal to set a mousetrap without a hunting license. * In Long Beach, it is illegal to curse on a mini-golf course. * In San Francisco, it is illegal to wipe one's car with used underwear. * It is illegal to cry on the witness stand in Los Angeles courts. Colorado * In Durango, it is illegal to go out in public dressed in clothing "unbecoming" one's sex. * In Logan County, it is illegal for a man to kiss a woman while she is asleep. * In Pueblo, it is illegal to let a dandelion grow within city limits. Connecticut * In Hartford, it is illegal to educate a dog. * It is illegal to dispose of used razor blades. * In New Britain, the speed limit for fire trucks is 25 m.p.h., even when going to a fire. * In Hartford, it is illegal for a man to kiss his wife on Sunday. Delaware * In Lewes, it is illegal to wear pants that are "form-fitting" around the waist. * Getting married on a dare is grounds for an annulment. * It is illegal to fly over any body of water, unless one is carrying sufficient supplies of food and drink. Florida * In Miami, it is illegal for a man to wear any kind of strapless gown. * Unmarried women who parachute on Sundays may be jailed. * In Sarasota, it is illegal to sing while wearing a bathing suit. Georgia * All males in the state between the ages of 16 and 50 are required to work on public roads. * In Columbus, it is illegal to sit on one's porch in an indecent position. * In Quitman, it is illegal for a chicken to cross a road. * It is illegal to change the clothes on a storefront mannequin unless the shades are down. Hawaii * It is illegal to appear in public wearing only swimming trunks. * It is illegal to own a mongoose without a permit. Idaho * In Pocatello, "the carrying of concealed weapons is forbidden, unless same are exhibited to public view." * Also in Pocatello, "It is prohibited for pedestrians and motorists to display frowns, grimaces, scowls, threatening and glowering looks, gloomy and depressed facial appearances, generally all of which reflect unfavorably upon the city's reputation." * Boxes of candy given as romantic gifts must weigh more than 50 pounds. Illinois * In Chicago, people who are diseased, maimed, mutilated, or deformed to the point of being "an unsightly or disgusting object" are banned from going out in public. * In Chicago, it is illegal to fish in one's pajamas. * In Chicago, it is illegal to take a French poodle to the opera. * According to state law, it is illegal to speak English. The officially recognized language is "American." * In Guernee, it is illegal for women weighing more than 200 pounds to ride horses in shorts. * In Joliet, it is illegal to mispronounce the name Joliet. Indiana * Monkeys are forbidden to smoke cigarettes in South Bend. * In Gary, it is illegal to attend the theater within four hours of eating garlic. * The Stepford Wives is banned in Warsaw. Iowa * State law forbids any establishment from charging admission to see a one-armed piano player. * In Fort Madison, firemen are required to practice for 15 minutes before attending a fire. Kansas * It is illegal for restaurants to sell cherry pie a la mode on Sundays. * In Wichita, a man's mistreatment of his mother-in-law may not be used as grounds for divorce. * In Wichita, it is illegal to carry a concealed bean snapper. * In Lang, it is illegal to ride a mule down Main Street in August, unless the animal is wearing a straw hat. * In Natoma, it is illegal to throw a knife at anyone wearing a striped shirt. Kentucky * It is illegal for a woman to appear in a bathing suit on a highway unless she is: escorted by at least two police officers; armed with a club; or lighter than 90 pounds or heavier than 200 pounds. The ordinance also specifically exempts female horses from such restrictions. * State law stipulates that a person is considered sober until he or she "cannot hold onto the ground." * It is illegal to remarry the same man four times. Louisiana * In New Orleans, fire trucks are required by law to stop at all red lights. * It is considered "simple assault" to bite someone in New Orleans; it is "aggravated assault" if the biter has false teeth. * It is against the law to gargle in public. Maine * In Portland, it is illegal for men to tickle women under the chin with feather dusters. * The most money one can legally win gambling is three dollars. * In Rumford, it is illegal for a tenant to bite his/her landlord. * In Waterville, it is illegal to blow one's nose in public. Maryland * In Baltimore, it is illegal to wash or scrub sinks, no matter how dirty they get. * Every person who has bowled since 1833 may be fined $2 for each offense. * In Halethorpe, it is illegal to kiss for more than one second. * It's illegal to mistreat oysters. * It's illegal to play Randy Newman's "Short People" on the radio. Massachusetts * In Salem, even married couples are forbidden from sleeping in the nude in rented rooms. * It is illegal to wear a goatee without a license. * North Andover prohibits its citizens from carrying "space guns." * State legislation forbids dueling with water pistols. * In Boston, it is illegal to take a bath unless one has been ordered by a physician to do so. * In 1659, the state outlawed Christmas. Michigan * In Clawson, it is legal for a farmer to "sleep with his pigs, cows, horses, goats, and chickens." * A state law stipulates that a woman's hair legally belongs to her husband. * In Detroit, it is illegal to make love in a car unless it is parked on your property. * In Detroit, it is illegal to "ogle" a woman from a moving car. * In Port Huron, the speed limit for ambulances in 20 m.p.h. * Under state law, dentists are officially classified as "mechanics." Minnesota * Women may face up to 30 days in jail if they impersonate Santa Claus. * In Minneapolis, double-parkers can be put on a chain gang. * Every man in Brainerd is required by law to grow a beard. * It's illegal to tease skunks. Mississippi * It is still legal to kill one's ``servant.'' * In Truro, a would-be groom must ``prove himself manly'' prior to marriage by hunting and killing either six blackbirds or three crows. Missouri * In Saco, women are forbidden from wearing hats that "might frighten timid persons, children or animals." * In St. Louis, it is illegal for an on-duty firefighter to rescue a woman wearing a nightgown; in order to be rescued, a woman must be fully dressed. * While children may purchase shotguns in Kansas City, they are not allowed to buy toy cap guns. * Missouri considers drunkenness an "inalienable right." Montana * It is a felony for a wife to open her husband's mail. * It is a misdemeanor to show movies that depict acts of felonious crime. * In Whitehall, it is illegal to operate a vehicle with ice picks attached to the wheels. Nebraska * It is illegal for a mother to give her daughter a perm without a state license. * In Waterloo, barbers are forbidden from eating onions between 7am and 7pm. * In Omaha, barbers are forbidden from shaving their customers' chests. * If a child burps during a church service in Omaha, his or her parents may be arrested. * It is illegal for bar owners to sell beer unless they are simultaneously brewing a kettle of soup. Nevada * In Nyala, a man is forbidden from buying drinks for more than three people other than himself at any one period during the day. * It is illegal to drive a camel on the highway. * In Eureka, men who wear moustaches are forbidden from kissing women. * Everyone walking on the streets of Elko is required to wear a mask. New Hampshire * It is illegal to sell the clothes one is wearing to pay off a gambling debt. * It is illegal to check into a hotel under an assumed name. New Jersey * It is against the law to "frown" at a police officer. * In Newark, it is illegal to sell ice cream after 6pm, unless the customer has a note from his doctor. * It is illegal to slurp soup. * In Trenton, it is illegal to throw a bad pickle in the street. New Mexico * In Raton, it is illegal for a woman to ride horseback down a public street with a kimono on. * The Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary is banned in Carlsbad. * State officials ordered 400 words of "sexually explicit material" to be cut from Romeo and Juliet. New York * In New York City, it is illegal for a woman to be on the street wearing "body hugging clothing." * In New York City, it is illegal for a man to turn around and look "at a woman in that way," and violators are forced to wear horse blinders. * In Staten Island, it is illegal for a father to call his son a "faggot" or "queer" in an effort to curb "girlie behavior." * In New York City, "It is disorderly conduct for one man to greet another on the street by placing the end of his thumb against the tip of his nose, at the same time extending and wiggling the fingers of his hand." North Carolina * In Charlotte, women must have their bodies covered by at least 16 yards of cloth at all times. * In Ashville, it is illegal to sneeze on city streets. * Ironically, Hornytown has banned all massage parlors. * State law mandates that all couples staying in rooms for one night must be kept in room with double beds, kept a minimum of two feet apart, and making love on the floor between the beds is strictly forbidden. * It is illegal to have sex in a churchyard. North Dakota * In Fargo, one may be jailed for wearing a hat while dancing, or even for wearing a hat to a function where dancing is taking place. * It is illegal to lie down and fall asleep with your shoes on. * It is illegal to serve beer and pretzels at the same time in any bar, club, or restaurant. Ohio * In Cleveland, women are forbidden from wearing patent leather shoes, lest men see reflections of their underwear. * In Columbus, it is illegal for stores to sell cornflakes on Sunday. * In Oxford, it is illegal for a women to disrobe in front of a man's picture. * In Youngstown, it is illegal to run out of gas. * Catch 22 is banned in Strongville. Oklahoma * People who make ``ugly faces'' at dogs may be fined and/or jailed. * In Schulter, it is illegal for a woman to gamble in the nude, in lingerie, or while wearing a towel. Oregon * One may not bathe without wearing "suitable clothing," i.e., that which covers one's body from neck to knee. * The town of Hood River prohibits the act of juggling without a license. * Salem has barred women's wrestling. * In Marion, ministers are forbidden from eating garlic or onions before delivering a sermon. Pennsylvania * "Any motorist who sights a team of horses coming toward him must pull well off the road, cover his car with a blanket or canvas that blends with the countryside, and let the horses pass. If the horses appear skittish, the motorist must take his car apart, piece by piece, and hide it under the nearest bushes." * In Morrisville, women need a permit to wear cosmetics. * Ministers are forbidden from performing marriages when either the bride or groom is drunk. Rhode Island * In Providence, it is illegal to sell toothpaste and a toothbrush to the same customer on a Sunday. * It is illegal to throw pickle juice on a trolley. * In Newport, it is illegal to smoke a pipe after sunset. South Carolina * Every citizen is obliged to carry his gun to church. * No horses are allowed into Fountain Inn unless they are wearing pants. * In Charleston, all carriage horses must wear diapers. South Dakota * It is illegal to lie down and fall asleep in a cheese factory. * Movies that show police officers being struck, beaten, or treated in an offensive manner are forbidden. Tennessee * It is illegal to use a lasso to catch a fish. * In Dyersburg, it is illegal for a woman to call a man for a date. * In Memphis restaurants, it is illegal to give any pie to fellow diners. It is also illegal to take unfinished pie home. All pie must be eaten on the premises. * Also in Memphis, it is illegal for a woman to drive by herself; "a man must walk or run in front of the vehicle, waving a red flag in order to warn approaching pedestrians and motorists." Texas * The entire Encyclopedia Britannica is banned in Texas because it contains a formula for making beer at home. * A recently passed anticrime law requires criminals to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and to explain the nature of the crime to be committed. * In El Paso, churches, hotels, halls of assembly, stores, markets, banking rooms, railroad depots, and saloons are required to provide spittoons "of a kind and number to efficiently contain expectorations into them." * It is illegal to milk another person's cow. * In Houston, it is illegal to sell Limburger cheese on Sunday. * In LeFors, it is illegal to take more than three swallows of beer while standing. * In San Antonio, it is illegal for both sexes to flirt or respond to flirtation using the eyes and/or hands. * In Mesquite, it is illegal for children to have unusual haircuts. Utah * Birds have the right of way on all highways. * A husband is responsible for every criminal act committed by his wife while she is in his presence. * In Monroe, daylight must be visible between partners on a dance floor. Vermont * Women must obtain written permission from their husbands to wear false teeth. * It is illegal to deny the existence of God. * It is illegal to whistle underwater. Virginia * In Richmond, it is illegal to flip a coin in any eating establishment to determine who buys a cup of coffee. * In Norfolk, a man may face 60 days in jail for patting a woman's derriere. * There is a state law prohibiting ``corrupt practices of bribery by any person other than candidates.'' * In Lebanon, it is illegal to kick your wife out of bed. Washington * In Seattle, women who sit on men's laps on buses or trains without placing a pillow between them face an automatic six-month jail term. * In Auburn, men who deflower virgins, regardless of age or marital status, may face up to five years in jail. * Seattle residents may not carry concealed weapons longer than six feet. * It is illegal to pretend that one's parents are rich. West Virginia * In Nicholas County, no clergy members may tell jokes or humorous stories from the pulpit during church services. * Doctors and dentists may not place a woman under anesthesia unless a third person is present. * It is illegal to snooze on a train. Wisconsin * In St. Croix, women are not allowed to wear anything red in public. * It is illegal to cut a woman's hair. * It is illegal to kiss on a train. * Cheese making requires a cheese maker's license; Limburger cheese making requires a master cheese maker's license. Wyoming * It is illegal to wear a hat that obstructs peoples' view in a public theater or place of amusement. * It is illegal for women to stand within five feet of a bar while drinking. - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Withdrawing from Social Security Date: 02 Jan 1997 03:21:17 -0800 Dear Friends, I just got an unconfirmed report that a Texas radio station today announced the official form for withdrawing from the Social Security system. More later (maybe tonight). /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Weird Laws Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:15:33 PST On Jan 02, Liberty or Death wrote: >I found this accidently on a web page whilst looking for CCW laws; enjoy :) > >- Monte [snip] You should add this one to the Washington State entry: * In Seattle, 1st Avenue, (a 4 lane thorofare), is reserved for horse drawn traffic. -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: The Idaho Observer is Born Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:44:54 -0800 Hi, folks - Once again, please forgive the massive spammage, but a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do, and I think it's gonna be worth it... Many of you have seen articles I've forwarded to the net from The Oregon Observer. I moved to North Idaho last summer, along with the editor and main writer for The Oregon Observer. We've spent lo, these many months preparing, and behold: The Idaho Observer is born! I'm posting this as an offer - a complimentary hard-copy issue of the first edition of The Idaho Observer to anyone who'd like one and who will send me a snail address to send one to. Who knows, this limited first edition could be worth millions some day! :) I think the folks who subscribe to the mailing lists that this post is going to will like The Idaho Observer, and there's only one way to find out; send me your snail, and I'll get one off to you. For FREEDOM!!! - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: Anthony Lake, Clinton's kinda guy.] (fwd) Date: 03 Jan 1997 10:14:32 -0600 (CST) This message is in MIME format. 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Human Events... Dec. 20, 1996 A little insight into Clinton's new choice for head of CIA. Anthony Lake, Recycled Carterite Internationalist On December 5, President Clinton nominated his National Security council Adviser Anthony Lake to be the next director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) --the fifth director in five years. Last week, outgoing Intelligence Committee Chairman Arlen Spector said he has "grave reservations" about Lake, and Sen. Pete Domenci said Lake faced "tough sailing" in the Senate -- and for good reason. Lake's background reveals that he is an internationalist former disciple of the moral- equivalence myth that equated the Cold War actions to those of the former Soviet Union. Lake, together with Strobe Talbott and Madeleine Albright - Clinton's deputy secretary of state and secretary of state nominee respectively - would comprise a clique of like-minded globalists at the top of Clinton's foreign-policy team. "(They) have a mentality that impairs understanding of America's place in the world and makes it nearly impossible to make policy in America's interest, " Boston University International Affairs Prof. Angelo Codevilla told The National Interest. "They made their careers restraining, diminishing, denigrating American power." "To understand Tony Lake," Codevilla told Human Events, "read Jimmy Carter's speech at Notre Dame." Lake, who served as director of the Policy Planning Staff in Carter's State Department, wrote the notorious Norte Dame commencement speech that Carter delivered on May 22, 1977. In that speech, Lake wrote that America was "now free" of her "inordinate fear of communism," thanks to her defeat in the Vietnam War. "Through failure we have found our way back to our own values," wrote Lake. "We fought fire with fire...This approach failed---with Vietnam the best example of its intellectual and moral poverty." In the speech, Lake never mentioned the millions of South Vietnamese slaughtered by the Viet Cong after the ignominious U.S. withdrawal from the country. Nor did he cite the 600,000 boat people who died fleeing the North Vietnamese Communists. Lake, who in his younger days had actually supported President Kennedy's decision to back a "coup" to overthrow South Vietnamese leader Ngo Kinh Diem (assassinated on Nov. 1, 1963), later resigned from Henry Kissinger's staff because of President Nixon's decision to bomb North Vietnamese encampments within Cambodia. Cambodian leader Sihanouk had given Nixon permission to drop the bombs on our enemy, but this apparently didn't assuage Lake's moral outage. Nor apparently did the Khmer Rouge's slaughter of two million Cambodians after America left Southeast Asia. In his Carter speech, Lake also made the ludicrous claim that Communist China is "a key force for global peace" and that the United States needs "to cooperate closely with the creative Chinese people on the problems that confront all mankind." Lake did not mention here, Chinese Communist atrocities or China's support for wars of aggression against both South Korea and South Vietnam. Lake also gloried in what he viewed as the demise of the nation-state. "It is a new world," he wrote, "but Ameria should not fear it...It is a new world that calls for a new American foreign policy...(that encourages all countries)...to rise above narrow national interests and work together to solve such formidable global problems as the threat of nuclear war, racial hatred, the arms race, and environmental damage." In a book he later edited for the Council on Foreign Relations, Lake stated that America's "interventionist thrust" against Communist dictatorships, as in Vietnam, was "the same" as European imperialism and constituted "the white man's burden." During his years in the Carter State Department, Lake pushed hard to get the administration to support two budding Rhodesian leaders -- Joshua Nkomo and Robert Mugabe -- both of whom had close ties to Soviet Russia and were committed to revolutionary violence. Lake also served on the board of New Directions, which advocated a "workable world order" and urged the Untied States to join "in a revolution of human decency and global fairness," believing that "world problems call for world action." Richard Barnet, who served with Lake on the board of New Directions, is a co- director of the leftist Institute for Policy Studies (IPS). Barnet went to North Vietnam in 1969 and said on Hanoi Radio; "the message that we would bring back with us is the message that the Vietnamese will continue to fight in our own country." Lake himself later served on the faculty of IPS and worked as a consultant to the Center for International Policy, a project of the leftist Fund for Peace. One of the fund's trustees was Louise Bransten, a known contact of American Communist and Soviet agents. Center for Security Policy Director Frank Gaffney says that "Lake was partly responsible for articulating the muddle-headed vision" in U.S. foreign policy that prevailed during the Carter years. Carter's secretary of state, Cyrus Vance, "relied on Lake," Gaffney said. " Lake drafted speeches on moral equivalence" between Communist Russia and the U.S.A. Lake's "globaloney" did not end with the Carter Administration. Clinton's policy toward Haiti "is quintessential Lake - interjection on behalf of a would-be .. dictator (Jean-bertrand Aristide)," said Codevilla. Codevilla also cited Lake's influence in creating Clinton's policy of kowtowing to the Chinese and of continuing U.S. adherence to an outdated ABM Treaty that the Russians have cheated on and that prevents the building of an effective defense against ballistic missile attack. Furthermore, top Senate Republicans last week expressed serious doubts about Lake because he gave the go ahead in 1994 for the Iranians to secretly smuggle arms to Bosnian Muslims, thus boosting the influence of a terrorist regime in Central Europe. In making this secret and possibly illegal decision, by the way, Lake chose not to inform Congress, Secretary of Defense William Perry, or CIA chief James Woolsey. Nor did Lake put this policy decision in writing. Helmut Sonnenfeldt, who served with Lake under Kissinger and now works at the Brookings Institute, said he had no personal reservations about Lake's appointment to the CIA. But he also said; "Lake has never been in such a large management position and it's not easy to step from policy-making to hard-headed analysis of CIA intelligence gathering. I'm uneasy about politicization of the agency- from someone right out of the White House. The CIA needs to be objective. Its director needs to have the President's ear, but not be his mouthpiece." "Lake is manifestly the wrong man for the CIA job, you want someone with impeccable credentials in intelligence, who inspires confidence, is a leader, and has no 'baggage'. Lake has no reputation to speak of in intelligence matters." He also , said Gaffney, brings "baggage" - the IPS, his globalism, and moral-equivalence views - that the CIA does not need. Gaffney further questioned Lake's judgment, citing Lake's recent startling statement on NBC's "Meet the Press" November 24 after the death of Alger Hiss. Asked whether he thought Hiss was a Communist spy, Lake responded, "I've read a couple of books that certainly offered a lot of evidence that he may have been. I don't think it's been conclusive." ( To that I can only say wow.) Lets let our reps know how we feel about another globalist being appointed. One who thinks nothing of withholding information from congress. And isn't "sure" about Alger Hiss !!! emmilene --------------5A6C4BF3C9-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Capitalization of Names Date: 03 Jan 1997 17:19:03 -0800 Virginia, I understand, and sympathize with your frustration here; I do agree that we need very solid, verifiable citations to this "allegation." I gave you the best I had, namely, my testimony that I did witness documentation by Randy Lee concerning "nommes de guerre" and his explanation of their frequent use on indictments. I would be very surprised if Randy Lee does not still have it. Why don't you contact him, or contact Alfred Adask, and see if you can track him down for us? I frankly don't have the time, or the money, nor the motivation right now, after being subjected to a stready stream of invectives, lies, and plain criminal conduct, by people within the "freedom movement" [sic]. You must understand that the IRS stole $4,000 from the bank account we were using to print books; I have been stiffed for $35,000 in legal fees during the past year; an agent worked his way into my living room, threatened me 12 times one day, and left with $1,300 worth of cash, books, software, and computer equipment; Broderick's group loaned me a car with badly tampered front brakes; the legal office we were setting up for her defense was raided and the entire set of office equipment/files/computers was removed without my permission; my personal belongings, including evidence and valuable legal files, have not been returned by the "Freedom Center" [sic] in Billings. This is only a small part of the story. I think this is enough evidence to suggest that some as yet unidentified group of people are "warring" on me, most likely without authority, and most likely under the rubric of an undeclared and mostly silent war on wealth in this country. The evidence of that "war" is all around us now, if you will only have eyes to see it. Do you see the pattern here, maybe? Now, if I had the citations, I would surely make them available, provided that we give credit where credit is due, namely, Randy Lee did the most original research I have seen on this subject. I did not do that original research. Perhaps we can all persuade him to load some, if not all, of it onto a Web Site, so that Americans who cannot pay a man what he is worth can continue to have access to his life's work without honoring him with so much as a dime, or giving him an ounce of credit for the time-consuming and laborious work it takes to break through just one of the deceptions which have been foisted on this once great nation. It is not my style to take a man's life work from him, and then host it on some remote Web site that he cannot reach. I did provide you with directions for browsing the Internet for anything related to "Dr. Eugene Schroder". Please permit me to suggest that you do your own research, and come to your own conclusions. We are litigating "nomme de guerre" right now, as we speak; if you want to know more about it, a man is worthy of his hire, remember? Now, if you want to have access to what I know, please join the Supreme Law School, if only for a month, to try it out. If you get ten others to join with you, your tuition will be free! Now, I don't see how you can pass up an opportunity like that, unless you are operating under some ulterior motive as yet unrevealed. After being stiffed, threatened, insulted, lied about, slandered, stalked, and invaded, I must inform everyone who reads this that I cannot and will not work for free, not in this movement, probably not ever again. I know charities which are far more worthy of volunteer contributions than certain animal feed lots I have known during my recent years on this planet. "A man is worthy of his hire." Remember? Misnomer is a Plea in Abatement. /s/ Paul Mitchell p.s. In case you missed it, my documentation is gone; where it might be right now, is anybody's guess. Care to take a guess? Be my guest. :( At 10:43 AM 1/3/97 EST5EDT, you wrote: >Thought you should see the reply I received: no documentation on >the CAPS rap - just a maybe referral to someone I don't know and >am not told how to find. If you guys are going to pay for this kind >of response to your questions, I have a bridge... Now I'm not >paying, but Paul is trying to sell us that he's worthy of teaching a >law class. Aren't you going to want to see the goods on the CAPS >theory? Personally, I think spreading unsubstantiated legal rumors >that ARE DAMAGING TO OUR ARGUMENT is suspicious. > >Some arcane punctuation or grammatic construction does not rise to >the level of law unless so recognized. I asked about caps and get >an answer that Geo. Washington used a colon? Traverse & demeur - see >Cruz, below > >Also, below is an admission that Paul doesn't know where Congress >gets the power to do all these martial law things - so why are all >these supposedly so-called smart guys conceding the power to do these >things? Just sue Govco for exceeding its authority, don't give >credence to a non-existent power. > >I read Schroder's "stuff" in the AntiShyster months ago, and it was >so poorly written, it wasn't proper documentation, but again I ask, >where does Congress get the power to do these things? Again, >Mitchell doesn't properly document or argue the "Trading with the >Enemy" point, if there is one? Legislatures have commonly redefined >words, or let their original meaning lapse in attempt to grab power - >look at "income" and "driver". The trick is to catch them at it, not >concede they have new power based on a word switcheroo - like using >"war" or war powers to apply to U.S. citizens not in rebellion. I >know there are a lot of cases on war powers. Show me one that says >Congress can declare war on US citizens not in rebellion. > >Mitchell still doesn't make clear what language he's talking about >that makes US citizens "the enemy". Two years ago I had to go chase >down the baloney Daniel Cruz-Garcia (subsequently exposed in the >AntiShyster as someone who ran off with patriots' money) was peddling >on the Buck Act. Everybody thought the guy was great. I could tell >what he was saying was a joke. Then I looked up the Buck Act and it >was a bigger joke. I wrote an expose of it, and gave a talk to a >local group explaining it. Most of the patriots acted like their >brains had fallen out - they just couldn't figure out who knew what >they were talking about. I said, this guy is an agent. He gave >little lectures on traverse and demeur (meant bull when backed into a >corner as far as I could tell - and that's what he did when I asked >him something specific.) Then guess what, all of a sudden the word >came in about all the people he ripped off. I guess I can go see >what TWEA really says, does. Sure can't tell from what Mitchell >wrote. > > I did a piece of legal research - it's at >http://yakko.cs.wmich.edu/~frogfarm/frogfarm. This may give you a >feel for how legal arguments are developed and what constitutes >adequate documentation. I also recommend reading the Nutshell or >Gilbert's series - buy at law school bookstore or see in law library. > This will give you a grounding of legal organization and structure. >To be any good at law, you need background, knowledge. If you're not >a very good reader, you won't get very far. And you have to ask the >right questions. Good questions. Like, where does Congress get the >power to do that? Where does the President get the power to do that? > Where do the courts get the power to do that? Larry Becraft does >consistently good work. Recommend his recent Bypass series on >treaties. > >The Buck Act, which Cruz said gave Govco jurisdiction over people in >federal areas and made all these regions federal areas - and was >therefore somehow making us subject to the income tax, was really a >states rights (powers) piece of legislation that recognized the power >of state governments to tax in federal areas (military bases - it was >WWII). > >So why don't our smart guys quit spewing about us being under martial >law if they're on our side? It creates the impression Congress has >the power to do that which it does not. Congress can't put us under >martial law. It is a horrible transgression to run around conceding >this point. It's not martial law, just Congress exceeding its >authority. Why give it some veneer of legitimacy?*** > > >> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 19:47:27 -0800 >> To: "Virginia Cropsey" >> From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >> Subject: Capitalization of Names > >> >> >> Martial rule requires >> >(cites, documentation please? martial law where - US, or >> >international) >> >> I had the documentation, but it >> slipped out of my life when I could >> not afford storage space any longer. >> Randy Lee and his associates have >> all the citations, as I recall. >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> >> > >> > that adversaries >> >> cannot address each other properly >> >(you mean it's "proper" to use their war name - so really >> >they must address each either "properly", not that they can't address >> >each other properly) >> >> "Properly" means proper, formal English: >> >> Paul Andrew Mitchell >> -or- >> Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. >> -or- >> Paul Andrew: Mitchell, B.A., M.S. >> >> George Washington preceded his last name >> with a ":" in the U.S. Constitution. >> We have preserved that usage in the >> version of the White House Constitution >> which we obtained from Clinton's Assistant >> Counsel in response to a FOIA request >> for same. >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> >> > >> > in >> >> a court of law, so they must use a >> >> "nomme de guerre", i.e. a name of war, >> >> in French. This practice was required >> >(needs documentation) >> >> See Randy Lee. >> >> >> > >> >> after Congress effectively >> >(how so?) >> > declared >> >> war on the American People, >> >(needs documentation - should quote actual passages, >> >document that this is legal effect) >> >> They amended the Trading with the Enemy >> Act to remove the exemption for citizens >> of the United States. Now, the changes >> are codified at 12 U.S.C. 95(a) and (b). >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> >> > >> > when it >> >> amended the Trading with the Enemy Act >> >> to remove the exemption for "citizens >> >> of the United States," >> >(make these guys with these exotic theories THAT ARGUE AGAINST OUR >> >LIBERTY provide the text of statutes they claim have these effects - >> >it'll probably end up being like Daniel Cruz Garcia and the Buck Act - >> > it didn't say anything like what he went around the country >> >charging to say it did) >> >> Browse the Internet for "Dr. Eugene Schroder" >> and/or "Eugene Schroder" and/or "Schroder." >> That should dredge up some of his excellent >> research on this point. There are many >> court cases which have litigated war powers. >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> >> > >> > thus subjecting >> >> all of these citizens to martial rule, >> > >> >Where in the Constitution is Congress given >> >the power to declare martial rule - Congressional powers are supposed >> >to be express, aren't they? >> >> Now you have asked a different question. >> Congress can suspend the Writ of Habeas >> Corpus, but waging war on the several States >> is expressly defined as treason in that same >> Constitution. So, I do agree with you if >> you are arguing that Congress has no power to >> impose martial law and/or martial rule upon >> Americans, under the guide of yet another >> emergency artificially extended to maintain >> dictatorial (read "star chamber") powers >> over those Americans. >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> >> Note "rebellion", not war, is the >> >term used for internal strife in the Constitutional provision on >> >habeus corpus; Article I, Section 8 says Congress has power to >> >"provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the >> >Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions" - again, >> >"Insurrection" and "Invasion" are distinguished. Congress can call >> >forth the militia for these purposes. It does not have power to >> >alter the power of courts or rights of citizens unless specified - >> >such a power must be express - so even if Congress did in this >> >statute what Mitchell says it did, Congress doesn't have the >> >authority to establish martial law in any way that's not granted - >> >such as suspension of Habeas Corpus (only when "required") and >> >calling forth the militia. And the Supreme Court (and the inferior >> >courts established) have an obligation to strike down laws passed in >> >excess of Congressional authority. >> > >> >Again, where is the authority for >> >Congress to diminish the rights of citizens to due process in the >> >courts in ways not authorized by the Constitution? This is a >> >tautology - obviously, Congress has no authority to diminish the >> >rights of citizens in ways not authorized by the Constitution. >> >> We have court authorities which >> have said this too, and that no >> emergency warrants suspension >> of the fundamental Rights of >> Americans. See People v. Boxer >> for the pertinent citations. >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> p.s. I got thrown off PIML for >> posting "off topic." Go figure. >> >> >> >Congress must seek Constitutional Amendments to increase its powers >> >or to diminish citizen rights. Isn't this obvious? So Mr. Mitchell, >> >where does Congress get the authority to "declare martial law" beyond >> >items specified in the Constitution, i.e. calling forth the militia, >> >suspending habeus corpus? >> > >> >> or war powers, thereafter requiring >> >> nommes de guerre in all pleadings. >> >> A plea in abatement, based on misnomer, >> >> will lie (read "be proper"). >> >> >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 12:03 PM 1/1/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >> >================[ Distributed Message ]================ >> >> > ListServer: TAB (Take America Back Mail List) >> >> > Type: Not Moderated >> >> > Distributed on: 01-JAN-97, 12:02:26 >> >> >Original Written by: IN:donelle@snowcrest.net. >> >> >======================================================= >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >This is something I've been wondering about, too. >> >> > >> >> >I know someone who was getting the good ol' boy >> >> >frame-up by a matched set of prosecuter/judges, and >> >> >their kin and spouses- the clerks, public defendants, >> >> >and the whole intermarried famdamily. What that person did >> >> >was tell them in court that JANE DOE was not her >> >> >name, and did not identify her. Jane Doe was her >> >> >name, and that's all she'd have of it. She lost. >> >> >She was ignored, scorned, (nasty, nasty people there), >> >> >and she refused to explain. >> >> >But I'm sure she was pursuing something like this. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Erin >> >> > >> >> >-----------------------FORWARD MESSAGE------------------------ >> >> >Legal documents always capitalize the names of the parties, i.e. JOHN DOE. >> >> >Proper English grammar teaches that only the first letter of each word in a >> >> >proper name is capitalized, i.e. John Doe. >> >> > >> >> >What is the source of the all capital letters practice? What book or >> document >> >> >teaches this practice? Why is this done? What source explains why? >> >> > >> >> >Sincerely, >> >> > Bill Baehr >> >> >----------------------END FORWARD MESSAGE------------------------ >> >> >-----------------------FROM PIML LIST-------------------------- >> >> >> >> ==================================================================== >> [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] >> [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] >> Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com >> ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] >> We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. >> Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan >> ==================================================================== >> >> > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: For the Record Date: 03 Jan 1997 17:36:21 -0800 > >Where in the Constitution is Congress given > >the power to declare martial rule - > >Congressional powers are supposed > >to be express, aren't they? > > Now you have asked a different question. > Congress can suspend the Writ of Habeas > Corpus, but waging war on the several States > is expressly defined as treason in that same > Constitution. So, I do agree with you if > you are arguing that Congress has no power to > impose martial law and/or martial rule upon > Americans, under the guise of yet another > emergency, artificially extended to maintain > dictatorial (read "star chamber") powers > over those Americans. > > /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: just say no Date: 03 Jan 1997 16:59:27 -0500 (EST) January 2, 1997: NEC Wins FBI Fingerprint Analysis Computer Order NEC Technologies, a subsidiary of NEC Corporation [TOKYO:6701], said it has won a contract from America's Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to supply an Automated Fingerprint Identification System (AFIS). Under the contract, NEC will supply a Latent Examiner Workstation (LEXS) with remote connections to several NEC AFISs throughout the United States. Several state and local law enforcement agencies are using NEC AFIS, including the Virginia State Police, Pennsylvania State Police, Michigan State Police, Dallas Police Department, Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Chicago Police Department, and the Western Identification Network (WIN), which is a consortium of seven states in the western United States. The LEXS will allow the FBI to connect to them all and execute searches and find matches. It was installed on December 13, said NEC. "The LEXS workstation will provide the FBI access to over 30 million fingerprint cards stored in NEC AFIS systems throughout the United States," said Jim Menendez, sales and marketing manager for NEC Technologies' AFIS Division. There are not 30 million criminals in the U.S., so what databases does the FBI propose to search "throughout the United States?" Firearms permit records? Drivers license records? "Protect-your-kid-from-kidnappers" databases? When they ask you for your fingerprints, "JUST SAY NO!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: dead woodies Date: 03 Jan 1997 18:29:54 -0800 The Freedom Movement's dead-beat giveaways: The dead woodies have a pair of palm prints firmly impressed upon their buttocks. /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Withdrawing from Social Security Date: 03 Jan 1997 19:22:53 -0800 The form number they mentioned is: SSA-521 This form number remains unconfirmed. Does anyone want to volunteer to check it out? I am too busy right now. Many thanks. /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Stiler Subject: Re: Weird Laws Date: 03 Jan 1997 15:31:30 -0800 (PST) On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Liberty or Death wrote: > I found this accidently on a web page whilst looking for CCW laws; enjoy :) > > - Monte > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Weird American Laws > Two more laws, still on the books from my understanding: In San Francisco it is illegal to shoot rabbits from the trolleycars. In the San Joaquin Valley, it is illegal to use elephants to plow your cottonfields. Mike Michael D. Stiler SysDate Consulting Services Saratoga, California Master Mason Knight Templar Scottish Rite Shriner Sailor Diver AMA LifeMember NRA LifeMember AOPA HOG Bagpiper TeamOS/2 Bagpipe Spoken Here! I'll give up sex before I'll give up motorcycling! '76 Prototype Laverda Jota/3 Endurance Racer '78 Yamaha SR500 Formula Singles Racer '78 Harley FLH Touring Bike '83 Harley XR1000 BOTT/Formula Twins Racer 'Joshua' '84 Honda VF1000R 'Otto' (Special for the German Autobahn) '93 Honda ST1100 'STyler' '94 Honda CB1000 (For the 'dark' side of my psyche) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: piml] [Fwd: Release: Modeerf Awards] (fwd) Date: 03 Jan 1997 07:47:41 -0600 (CST) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915762710-1968118196-852299261=:23579 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII --1915762710-1968118196-852299261=:23579 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Return-Path: Received: from hustle.rahul.net ([192.160.13.2]) by sirius.wnstar.com (post.office MTA v1.9.3b ID# 0-11476) with SMTP id AAA256 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:02:40 -0800 Received: by hustle.rahul.net with UUCP id AA25737 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ewolfe@wnstar.com); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:59:42 -0800 Received: by dehnbase.fidonet.org (mailout1.26); Thu, 2 Jan 97 20:06:36 PST Message-Id: <90535.32CC85CC.ann@lp.org> Sender: announce-request@lp.org Reply-To: announce@lp.org X-Mailer: mailout v1.26 released with lsendfix 1.6a NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 Washington DC 20037 For release: January 2, 1997 For additional information: George Getz, Deputy Director of Communications (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 Internet: 76214.3676@CompuServe.com Libertarian Party hands out first annual Modeerf Awards WASHINGTON, DC -- And the losers are: Arizona, David Kessler, the Supreme Court, the Energy Department, San Francisco...and especially Bill Clinton and the 104th Congress. Their booby prize: The Libertarian Party's first annual Modeerf Awards. Their crime: Reducing freedom in 1996. "Modeerf is freedom spelled backwards," explained Libertarian Party Director of Communications Bill Winter. "It's appropriate for these individuals and organizations, since they all moved freedom backwards in 1996. That's why we created this award: to expose and shame those who did the most to reduce liberty in America. "After all, there are awards for so many trivial things -- the best and worst dressed, best television shows, and so on -- we decided America needed an award to highlight the decay of our nation's most precious asset: freedom." The Top Ten 1996 Modeerf Awards: * The "Sorry About that Injection of Plutonium 239" Award: To the Department of Energy for paying $4.8 million in taxpayers' money to the families of human "guinea pigs" who had been subjected to secret government experiments. "It's the government's equivalent of the Publisher's Clearinghouse Sweepstakes -- you may ALREADY be a lucky winner...if we conducted ghoulish experiments on your relatives without their knowledge," said Winter. * The "Of Course I Believe in the First Amendment, Except..." Award: To Congress and President Clinton, for passing the internet-censorship Communications Decency Act. "Nothing warms a politician's heart like a little book burning -- virtual or otherwise," noted Winter. * The "Divorced from Reality" Award: To Arizona, which passed a law requiring divorcing parents to take a course on the impact of divorce on children. "What next -- a law requiring single women to read The Rules?" asked Winter. "Perhaps we need a law requiring politicians to take a course about the impact of their silly, meddling laws." * The "Some of My Best Friends Are Married" Award: To Congress and President Clinton, for passing the Defense of Marriage Act in June, which allows states to refuse to recognize same-sex marriages. "Apparently it takes a village to raise a child -- but the entire Congress to protect heterosexuality," said Winter. * The "What's Yours Is Mine" Award: To the Supreme Court, which ruled in March that the government can seize the property of innocent people under asset forfeiture laws. "This ruling proved that the Supreme Court doesn't know their assets from a hole in the Bill of Rights -- which is what they've created with this unconstitutional ruling," said Winter. * The "Sometimes A Cigar Is Just A Cigar" Award: To San Francisco, for spending taxpayers' money on an advertising campaign that compares cigars to dog droppings, launched after politicians decided that too many young women were smoking cigars. "Something stinks here, and it's not cigars -- it's politicians who think it's their job to nag adults about our bad habits," said Winter. * The "Give War A Chance" Award: To President Clinton for extending the stay of American troops in Bosnia for another year. "But give Clinton credit," said Winter. "In 1996, he resisted the urge to send American troops to numerous other international battlegrounds: Chechnya, Northern Ireland, Rwanda, and the divorce court of Charles and Diana." * The "Get A Real Job" Award: To Congress and President Clinton, for increasing the minimum wage, thus destroying an estimated 200,000 entry-level jobs. "It was the ultimate job protection bill: protecting the jobs of politicians," noted Winter. "Now they can start handing out federal goodies -- like welfare and job training programs -- to those 200,000 voters they threw out of work." * The "This Will Only Hurt for Six Years" Award: To David Kessler, FDA Commissioner, for another year of making Americans sick under the guise of keeping them healthy. "Doctor Kevorkian has nothing on Doctor Kessler -- who has spent six years keeping lifesaving drugs off the market and trying to restrict health-enhancing vitamins. He's a regulation epidemic," said Winter. * The "There's A Terrorist Under Your Bed" Award: To President Clinton and Congressional Republicans, for blaming the tragic crash of TWA Flight 800 on terrorists, and using it as an excuse to try to pass a "wish list" of unconstitutional anti-terrorist legislation. "This legislation proves that Americans have more to fear from politicians than they do from terrorists -- especially non-existent ones," said Winter. -- The Libertarian Party http://www.lp.org/ 2600 Virginia Ave. NW, Suite 100 voice: 202-333-0008 Washington DC 20037 fax: 202-333-0072 For subscription changes, please mail to with the word "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" in the subject line -- or use the WWW form. --1915762710-1968118196-852299261=:23579-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Re: Withdrawing from Social Security Date: 03 Jan 1997 21:58:45 -0500 At 07:22 PM 1/3/97 -0800, you wrote: >The form number they mentioned is: > > SSA-521 > >This form number remains unconfirmed. > >Does anyone want to volunteer to >check it out? > >I am too busy right now. > >Many thanks. > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > >==================================================================== >[Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] >[65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] >Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com >ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] >We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. >Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan >==================================================================== > > > I could not find that form listed, but did find one that might be of interest. Form SSA-7050-F3 Request for Social Security Earnings Information, which can be obtained by calling the SS office at 1-800-772-1213. I think that is the first step in rescinding your "membership" in Social Security. To drop out, you must send in a request, in letter form, to them for consideration. The best way to accomplish this would be to ask for a guarantee that your money will be worth the same when you take it out, as when you put it in. When they refuse the guarantee, you will have grounds for removal. Don't know if this helps, hope so. Tom "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Withdrawing from Social Security Date: 04 Jan 1997 07:06:16 -0800 At 09:58 PM 1/3/97 -0500, you wrote: >At 07:22 PM 1/3/97 -0800, you wrote: >>The form number they mentioned is: >> >> SSA-521 >> >>This form number remains unconfirmed. >> >>Does anyone want to volunteer to >>check it out? >> >>I am too busy right now. >> >>Many thanks. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> >> >I could not find that form listed, but did find one that might be of >interest. Form SSA-7050-F3 Request for Social Security Earnings Information, >which can be obtained by calling the SS office at 1-800-772-1213. I think >that is the first step in rescinding your "membership" in Social Security. Yes, I have done this, and they do respond. It is your first step to determining if you are "over-vested" (read "paid too much"). Who hasn't? /s/ Paul Mitchell >To drop out, you must send in a request, in letter form, to them for >consideration. The best way to accomplish this would be to ask for a >guarantee that your money will be worth the same when you take it out, as >when you put it in. When they refuse the guarantee, you will have grounds >for removal. >Don't know if this helps, hope so. >Tom Yes, Tom, this is excellent. Howard Freeman made a point of stressing this during his many lectures on Social Security, under the topic of "unconscionable contracts." Congress has actually reserved to itself the right to alter any terms of the Social Security system; that gives Congress carte blanche to do whatever it pleases with the system. What does THAT tell you? /s/ Paul Mitchell >"You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made >in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures >permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit >a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest >immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters >(no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) > >"A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, >still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a >dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. > >"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our >liberties than standing armies." > --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) Yea, Tom. You tell 'em, babe! /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: The Big Deception Date: 04 Jan 1997 09:58:28 -0800 A nation is really in trouble when it deceives itself so much, that lies are perceived as truth, and truth is perceived as lies. What a sorry state, indeed. The only way out of this vicious circle, is to get on our hands and knees, and beg forgiveness from the Most High, Who has the power to set things straight in our lives, at last. /s/ Paul Mitchell (not an agent provocateur, and I have already affirmed it, under penalty of perjury) ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BludyRed@aol.com Subject: Modeerf Awards Date: 04 Jan 1997 17:35:25 -0500 pwatson@utdallas.edu forwards: >>Libertarian Party hands out first annual Modeerf Awards<< A hearty BRAVO to all winners save one: >>* The "Divorced from Reality" Award: To Arizona, which passed a law requiring divorcing parents to take a course on the impact of divorce on children. "What next -- a law requiring single women to read The Rules?" asked Winter. "Perhaps we need a law requiring politicians to take a course about the impact of their silly, meddling laws."<< Perhaps we need a law requiring people start taking personal responsibility for how their actions affect others. The Arizona Law is the logical response to the 60's war cry, since taken up by some 90's Libertarians, of "If it feels good, do it" ALL actions have consequences, immediate or latent, to ourselves and others. Mountain climbers or scuba divers who go out unprepared put the rescue workers who might have to save them at risk. So do people who choose to build their homes in dry river beds, or on earthquake fault lines. Society is more efficiently served by having these rescue workers deal with genuine uncontrollable accidents, not risking their lives and wasting my tax money due to the stupidity and irresponsibility of others. This is essentially the difference between laws requiring that you have the brakes on your car inspected and mandatory seat belt laws. The first protects ME from YOUR stupidity, the second protects YOU from your own. The alternative to brake inspection, is swift punishment to the offender and equitable recompense to the victims of morons who knowingly drive with faulty brakes. I personally prefer the alternative. The second type of law (seat belts) is totally unnecessary. All it accomplishes is to keep jackasses alive to cause more damage elsewhere. And NO, I do not want my tax money or health insurance (read higher rates for me) to pay for the reassembling of idiots who choose to drive without seatbelts Believe it or not, I was taught about responsibility on how my behavior affects myself, others and society at large while I was in grammar school, by both the "good sisters", and my family. Needless to say, that was quite some time ago. Until such time as education and training, like this, again becomes commonplace, we will continue to see more laws like the Arizona one above. Big Momma Government is always looking to step in and make things right, when individuals ignore their responsibilities, or when society fails to condemn and punish reckless behavior. Along with FREEDOM comes RESPONSIBILITY. We spend much time discussing the first aspect, and possibly not enough on the second. Regards, Dennis Baron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: The Architect and the Donkey Date: 04 Jan 1997 02:26:33 -0800 The Donkey and the Architect: A True Story in the Making My ONLY deliberate association with the so-called militia to date is my contract to provide legal services to Ray Looker, in West Virginia, at the verbal request of Ray's pastor, Butch Paugh. That's it. Period. Anything else is a pure fabrication of prejudiced minds. If people here want to believe lies, there is not much, in the final analysis, that I can really do to stop them from doing so. Evidently, there are very few people who are sincerely interested in Mr. Looker's situation, or in the substance of the legal arguments which he is now putting on the table, with my assistance and counsel. Even the Justice Department based their empty response on facts not in evidence. And the Associated Press reporter has now fallen silent, after we sent him all the pleadings via Priority U.S. Mail (he could not get his email software to work), at our expense, I might add. That is a shame, because I now have a written admission from the Justice Department that their Article IV federal courts have no criminal jurisdiction; DOJ cannot find the statutes, or regulations, which grant criminal jurisdiction to the United States District Court ("USDC"). Read that again! But, of course, well informed Americans on this email list, and others, could really care less about this earth-shaking discovery, and the far-reaching implications. It's more fun to kick mud in the face of a designer, who also enjoys digging and forming a foundation on which to build an edifice. That's why I am working this trench, but you would never know it, from speaking exclusively with the donkey over there. It's the old story of the donkey and the architect. Maybe you have all heard this one already? The architect likes to get his hands on the the most difficult tasks, while the donkey gets mad because it is tied to the hitching post nearby. The donkey enjoys kicking dirt in the architect's face, every chance the donkey gets. But the donkey is really an ass, and it will be the last one to know. /s/ Paul Mitchell At 11:03 AM 12/17/96 -0800, you wrote: > > >On 17 Dec 1996, John Burr wrote: > > As far as censoring >> someone who you disagree with and using socialists tactics to censor that >> individual..is contrary to everything we are fighting for...and contrary to >> what I believe the true intentions of the list(s) are for. So if I or anyone > >Getting someone off an email list is not censorship. This is our list and >we are free to choose who and what are on that list. If someone is not >welcome, ie. a radical right wing militia member spouting off on a >knitting club list, well the knitting club has every right to kick the >militia guy outta their conversation. Freedom of speech dosen't give one a >right to spam blather all over the internet. A person may have the right >to speak as he pleases but we have the right not to listen to him and to >ask him to leave. > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Re: de facto "State" courts -Reply Date: 04 Jan 1997 04:13:26 -0800 Dear Bill and Friends, See Historical and Statutory Notes: E.g., 28 U.S.C. 2281, 2282, and 2325 require 3-judge panels to enjoin enforcement, operation, or execution of Federal or State statutes. We are seeking to enjoin improper withholding of documents properly requested under FOIA, because we are claiming that the blanket FOIA exemption for the federal judiciary is unconstitutional for violating both the Oath of Office provision, and the First Amendment Petition Clause. Oaths of Office should not be exempted from disclosure. The documents we are requesting are oaths of office and related credentials (e.g. delegations of authority, etc.) DOJ and FBI are hiding behind the privacy exemptions of the Privacy Act, and thus refusing to produce Appointment Affidavits (which exhibit the oath of office required by 5 USC 3331), even though the Secretary of State (Warren Christopher) graciously produced same without any fuss whatsoever. Appointment Affidavits are OMB-approved forms (read "Information Collection Requests"). In Billings, we are attempting to compel disclosure of credentials for all 633 FBI agents who are reported to have rotated in and out of the Freemen standoff in Jordan, Montana, late last Spring. Does this answer your question? /s/ Paul Mitchell At 06:04 PM 1/4/97 -0800, you wrote: >Paul, > >I have in front of me 28 USC 2284. I do not see the authority there to >invoke a three judge panel for an injunction, except when otherwise >required by an act of Congress (is there such an act?) See above, in particular the Historical and Statutory Notes, as published in "Federal Civil Judicial Procedure and Rules," West Publishing Company, 1996 edition. /s/ Paul Mitchell or when >challenging constitutionality of apportionment of congressional districts or >of a statewide legislative body, in light of the fact that sections 2281 and >2282 have been repealed. Will you please clarify this? Yes, after we file the Petition for Warrant of Removal by 3-Judge Panel, we then file a Notice and Demand on the Circuit Court of Appeals for a Certificate of Necessity to be served on C.J. Rehnquist to make a temporary assignment of competent and qualified federal judges, pursuant to Article III, Section 1, since Article III DCUS courts are presently vacant everywhere. Then, we immediately Petition that DCUS for a Stay of Proceedings, pending final resolution of our challenge to the constitutionality of the Jury Selection and Service Act. Since all jury candidates are being pulled from voter registration lists in most states, and since those voter registration lists are restricted to federal citizens only, because of the consistent fraud on the voter registration affidavits, the apportionment of Congressional districts is skewed by the fact that state Citizens (not also federal citizens) are not being counted in the apportionment decisions. They cannot even register to vote. In Arizona, the Arizona AG is refusing to disclose the Great Register of state Citizens who are known to inhabit Arizona. I was denied my fundamental Right to vote in the November general election, despite numerous attempts to resolve this controversy adminstratively. This consideration (apportionment of districts) also warrants a 3-judge panel, because the skew results from the operation of an unconstitutional law, to wit: 28 U.S.C. 1865 is unconstitutional for exhibiting unlawful class discrimination against state Citizens who are not also federal citizens, by Right of Election, under the Tenth Amendment. We have standing state Supreme Court cases which held that one can be a state Citizen without also being a federal citizen, notwithstanding the so-called 14th Amendment! These cases are res judicata now, and they are pivotal. See, for example, the Gardina case, quoted in the Preface to "The Federal Zone." Furthermore, the jury selection policy at 28 U.S.C. 1861 does not even mention the United States District Courts ("USDC"), so there is presently no policy whatsoever for jury selection and service for almost 100% of the criminal cases which have been brought by the Department of Justice since who knows when!! For details, browse URL http://www.supremelaw.com and read the essay "Karma and the Federal Courts." There is, however, a policy for jury selection and service in the District Courts of the United States ("DCUS"), but DOJ never invokes these courts in their criminal prosecutions. We now have an oblique admission by DOJ that they do not have statutes or regulations granting any criminal jurisdiction to the USDC whatsoever!!! FOIA is the key: the court of original jurisdiction to compel production of documents requested under FOIA is the DCUS, not the USDC. United States District Judge John M. Roll ruled as much in late Spring, in the grand jury case I was litigating on behalf of the Arizona trust which hired me as Vice President for Legal Affairs. I do not think that Judge Roll had any idea how far-reaching will be the implications of that isolated, and relatively unknown ruling. But, he was correct; the USDC is not the proper forum in which to bring a request under the FOIA! Now we have a classic, even historic collateral attack building against the lack of any criminal jurisdiction in the USDC. That attack is now squarely on the table in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, in West Virginia. The client there has authorized me to carry this challenge to final resolution. /s/ Paul Mitchell p.s. In the face of these earth-shaking discoveries, many so-called patriots on the Internet have decided to resort to personal insults, lies, and innuendo, in order to discredit what I am telling you here. The truth will prevail. I am very confident of that now, come what may. > >Bill > >>>> Paul Andrew Mitchell 01/04/97 03:59pm >>> > >Tarheel/David/et al.: > >This is very close to my latest thinking for selecting an appropriate, and >substantive, "federal question," which will invoke the jurisdiction of the >District Court of the United States >("DCUS"). Acting as a de facto federal territory means that the corporate >State is subject to the municipal jurisdiction of the District of Columbia. >The Union states are NOT subject to the municipal jurisdiction of the >District of Columbia, pursuant to the Tenth Amendment. De facto >corporate States are subject to that municipal jurisdiction, pursuant to >4:3:2 (not 1:8:17, which only goes to ceded enclaves, of which >D.C. is the prime example). We focus here on 4:3:2, because the >operative term is "territory", and the USDC is a territorial court, per >American Insurance v. 356 Bales of Cotton and Balzac v. Porto Rico >[sic]. >(see "Karma and the Federal Courts" at URL > http://www.supremelaw.com for details.) > >Thus, ALL civil and criminal actions which are being brought against >Citizens of the several states, can be removed into the DCUS on this one >federal question, where it will probably sit, with no action, for quite some >time, at least until C.J. Rehnquist solves the riddle we have engineered. >The riddle issues from Article III, Section 1, and >Evans v. Gore, which has never been overturned >(judicial compensation cannot be diminished by taxes). >See 28 U.S.C. 1331 (federal question) and 1441-1452 >(Chapter 89 -- Removal of Cases from State Courts). >They have no competent and qualified Article III federal judges anywhere >in the federal judiciary at the present time, protestations by the >Administrative >Office of the United States Courts to the contrary notwithstanding. > >See, in particular, 28 U.S.C. 1451. Definitions, to wit: > > For purposes of this chapter -- > ... > (2) The term "State" includes the District of Columbia. !!! > >Therefore, the de facto "State" court must already be a political >subdivision of the District of Columbia for any removals to work in the >first instance; similarly, all USDC's are "State" courts for the very same >reason: the federal zone is a collective area that is subject of the >municipal jurisdiction of the District of Columbia. Read that again, until >you understand it perfectly. > >If you really want to have some fun, invoke a 3-judge DCUS panel, >because you will be effectively enjoining a political subdivision of the >District of Columbia (i.e. the federal government). This would be a truly >ground-breaking case, and I would be honored to assist anyone with >the legal work on this point. See 28 U.S.C. 2284 for authority (injunction >warrants a 3-judge panel). > >Tarheel, I know that you also have a wealth of state-specific research >on this point, namely, the respective corporate States have mirrored this >finding in all of their legislative enactments on this subject matter. I am >grateful to you for picking up this thread; I have been just too busy with >the federal side of the problem, to have any time to delve into the 50 >different state codes on this point. Thanks to your leadership, you can >expect other Americans to follow your lead and finish the research for >all 50 Union states. > >That is one of my many reasons for starting the >Supreme Law School: we can all be research assistants, and teaching >assistants, without needing to climb too high up the curriculum ladder! > >In summary: everything is a "federal question", since the federal >government has subordinated all corporate States under the municipal >jurisdiction of the District of Columbia, most probably since the secret >bankruptcy of the federal government in the year 1933. See >"The Roosevelt Coup D'Etat," available from >Vern Holland in Tulsa, Oklahoma state; and lots of other sources, e.g. >the late Howard >Freeman had this point down cold. > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > > > >At 03:59 AM 12/27/96 -0500, you wrote: >>======================================================================= >>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST >VIRTUAL COURT, USA >>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry >Rushing >>======================================================================= >>At 01:45 AM 12/27/96, Tarheel wrote: >> >>snip. . . >> >>>One suggestion to get it started: >>>Suppose someone is summoned into some >>>State court or administrative forum. They give notice >>>to abate because of lack of constitutional authority >>>to attach jurisdiction. If the bad guys don't retract >>>and disappear, file an interlocutory or simular appeal into >>>DC US making item 8 above the issue stating >> >>> >>>"that the State is moving as a de facto federal >>>territory, therefore its citizens do not have standing >>>to sue a State Citizen or Freeman in its local quasi >>>federal court." >> >>How about modifying it to this: >> >>(Remember, I am just a novice, and a student here. . .) >> >>>"that the State is moving as a de facto federal >> >>>territory, *in a military venue, under the Law-Martial*, > >>therefore its citizens (those of the federal territory) >> >>do not have standing >> >>>to sue a State Citizen or Freeman in its local quasi >> >>>federal court." >> >> >>??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? >> >> >>Happy New Year, all! >> >> >>Remember, God is right HERE! >> >> >>David Russell, Warwick >> >> > >==================================================================== >[Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] >[65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] >Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com > ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] >We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. >Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan >==================================================================== > > > > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack@minerva.com Subject: Re: Withdrawing from Social Security Date: 04 Jan 1997 17:51:36 PST roc@xmission.com wrote : > >Yes, I have done this, and >they do respond. It is your >first step to determining >if you are "over-vested" >(read "paid too much"). > >Who hasn't? > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > roc@xmission.com wrote : >>I could not find that form listed, but did find one that might be of >>interest. Form SSA-7050-F3 Request for Social Security Earnings Information, >>which can be obtained by calling the SS office at 1-800-772-1213. I think >>that is the first step in rescinding your "membership" in Social Security. > >Yes, I have done this, and >they do respond. It is your >first step to determining >if you are "over-vested" >(read "paid too much"). > >Who hasn't? > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > It is truly difficult, if not impossible, to imagine how anyone could have paid too much. The maximum this year was 3778 or nearly 4,000. If one had worked for 40 years and the maximum taken out was 4,000 at most this would be a bit less than 160,000 dollars. However, the amount taken out has increased each year .....even in years when politicians say there are no tax increases. As a simplification we might say that the maximum had increased by a 100 dollars a year and then over 40 years the maximum contribution would be half .....more or less and we can double that so the total contribution would be again a bit less than a 160,000 considering contribution from employee and employer. If the mean income is 24,000 and one has 160,000 then one can live on capital for about 6.5 years. If one tries to live on interest with only 160,000 and can earn 5% then he has 8,000 a year to live on. From another perspective, the LA TIMES a bit ago had a story that said that one out of three people suffer from long term chronic illness and that on average they spend about 4500 a year on medical costs. From still another view the overall medical bill is something over a trillion a year and with 250 million people on average something close to 4,000 a year in medical expenses are paid for. If one can earn 5% on his money he / she has to have saved 90,000 dollars to simply pay the medical expenses. I was just reading that even in Japan that is vaunted as saving so much the average savings per household are only 11,000 dollars Well there are all the innumerate who feel that they if were free to invest their own money in stocks they would be rich beyond any dreams of avarice as they listen to all this nonsense about stocks continually gaining at 10 percent / 14 percent / 20 percent compounded continually If one leaves FANTASY land and gets in the real world in March of 1930 the DJI was 300. It is currently 6600. In other words it has been multiplied by 22 over 67 years. To find the average rate of gain compounded I think one solves the following simple equation 22 = (1.0x) ** 67 or over that span the average gain is 3.8% In 1966 the DJI was a bit over 1000 now it is 6600 or a gain of 6.6 over 30 years 6.6 = (1.0x) ** 30 or over that span the gain was 6 percent In 1982 the DJI was 800 and so over the 16 years from 1966 it had lost 20 percent of its value The other side of the coin is that in say 1955 cokes were six for a quarter and now they are nearly 40 cents a can or 10 times as much. I have gasoline tickets for the early 50's where the price was only 19 cents a gallon which is now about a 1.20 or a factor of 6. If one assumes a gain in prices from 1950 to the present and a gain in stocks from about 600 to 6600 there is a gain in stock prices of 11 and a gain in prices of 6 so the actual gain in wealth is 11/6 or about 1.83. 1.83 = (1.0x) ** 45 gives an annual gain in wealth of a bit more than 1 percent ............ The great problem is that when inflation occurs during a person's life time a fixed percentage of income saved is so small in absolute terms that in later life it is irrelevant. The mean income now is about 24K. Right after the second world war it was closer to 2.5K. So, if one put aside one tenth of the income over the years 1945 to 1960 it is a grand total of 3,750 dollars which 30 years later will barely pay for 2 months of retirement based on current mean income. If each quarter of your working life funds 2 months of retirement, how many lifetimes does one have to work to be able to retire The answer is simple: No one is over funded or has paid in too much. Unless there is a highly destructive deflation the little that most have put away thru Social Security will pay for only about a quarter or a third of the current life expectancy after retirement. In absolute terms most consume all they have saved and *earned* on money placed in Social Security in a very few years and from then on one has to take part in this eternal ponzi game. Below is a very simpler FORTRAN program to model this nonsense over a long period of time. Even with the best of assumptions and saving far more than a person can with all the costs of living there is seldom more than 3 or 4 years of retirment paid for REAL original_sal ! salary at start of calculations REAL original_costs ! costs at start of calculations REAL return_invest ! average compounded earnings on investments REAL rate_sal_inc ! average increase in salary REAL rate_costs_inc ! average increase in costs REAL savings ! average percent of earnings invested REAL current_sal ! salary on this iteration REAL current_costs ! costs on this iteration REAL current_savings ! current total of savings REAL ratio_earn_sal ! Ratio of savings to earnings DATA savings /.15/ DATA rate_sal_inc/.03/ DATA rate_costs_inc/.01/ DATA return_invest/ .05/ DATA original_sal / 2500.0/ DATA original_costs / 2125.50/ current_savings = 0 current_sal = original_sal current_costs =original_costs ration_earn_sal = 0 open (UNIT=10,FILE= 'i:\inflation\sample5.txt' ) write (10, 40 ) savings, return_invest, + rate_sal_inc,rate_costs_inc 40 Format ( ' Savings = ' f4.2,/' Return on Investment= ', + f4.2, /,'Rate of increase of Salary = ',F4.2, /, + 'Rate of increase of Costs =' F4.2 ) write(10, 50) 50 FORMAT(' Current_sal,Current_costs,Current_savings,ratio ') DO I = 1,40 current_savings = current_savings +current_savings*return_invest current_savings = current_savings +current_sal*savings current_sal = current_sal +current_sal*rate_sal_inc current_costs = current_costs+current_costs*rate_costs_inc ratio_earn_sal = current_savings / current_sal write (10,100) current_sal,current_costs,current_savings, + ratio_earn_sal 100 FORMAT ( 6x,f8.2,6x,f8.2,6x,f8.2,6x,f8.2) END DO STOP END In the following example in the above program there were perfectly stable costs and virtually no gain in income and 13 years of retirement were paid for. Also, 15% of one's income was saved. Tho few can actually spare 15% of their income Savings = .15 Return on Investment= .05 Rate of increase of Salary = .01 Rate of increase of Costs = .01 Current_sal,Current_costs,Current_savings,ratio 2525.00 2146.75 375.00 .15 2550.25 2168.22 772.50 .30 2575.75 2189.90 1193.66 .46 2601.51 2211.80 1639.71 .63 2627.53 2233.92 2111.92 .80 2653.80 2256.26 2611.65 .98 2680.34 2278.82 3140.30 1.17 2707.14 2301.61 3699.36 1.37 2734.21 2324.63 4290.40 1.57 2761.56 2347.87 4915.05 1.78 2789.17 2371.35 5575.04 2.00 2817.06 2395.07 6272.17 2.23 2845.23 2419.02 7008.34 2.46 2873.69 2443.21 7785.54 2.71 2902.42 2467.64 8605.87 2.97 2931.45 2492.32 9471.52 3.23 2960.76 2517.24 10384.82 3.51 2990.37 2542.41 11348.17 3.79 3020.27 2567.83 12364.14 4.09 3050.47 2593.51 13435.38 4.40 3080.98 2619.45 14564.73 4.73 3111.79 2645.64 15755.11 5.06 3142.91 2672.10 17009.63 5.41 3174.34 2698.82 18331.55 5.77 3206.08 2725.81 19724.28 6.15 3238.14 2753.07 21191.40 6.54 3270.52 2780.60 22736.70 6.95 3303.23 2808.40 24364.11 7.38 3336.26 2836.49 26077.80 7.82 3369.62 2864.85 27882.13 8.27 3403.32 2893.50 29781.68 8.75 3437.35 2922.44 31781.26 9.25 3471.72 2951.66 33885.92 9.76 3506.44 2981.18 36100.98 10.30 3541.51 3010.99 38431.99 10.85 3576.92 3041.10 40884.82 11.43 3612.69 3071.51 43465.60 12.03 3648.82 3102.22 46180.79 12.66 3685.31 3133.25 49037.15 13.31 3722.16 3164.58 52041.80 13.98 In the following example income did not quite keep up with inflation only 5% was saved and inflation was moderate at only 6% and after a life time of working barely 1.33 years of retirement were paid for Savings = .05 Return on Investment= .03 Rate of increase of Salary = .05 Rate of increase of Costs = .06 Current_sal,Current_costs,Current_savings,ratio 2625.00 2518.03 125.00 .05 2756.25 2669.11 260.00 .09 2894.06 2829.26 405.61 .14 3038.77 2999.01 562.48 .19 3190.70 3178.96 731.30 .23 3350.24 3369.69 912.77 .27 3517.75 3571.87 1107.67 .31 3693.64 3786.19 1316.78 .36 3878.32 4013.36 1540.97 .40 4072.24 4254.16 1781.11 .44 4275.85 4509.41 2038.16 .48 4489.64 4779.97 2313.10 .52 4714.12 5066.77 2606.97 .55 4949.83 5370.78 2920.89 .59 5197.32 5693.02 3256.00 .63 5457.19 6034.61 3613.55 .66 5730.05 6396.68 3994.82 .70 6016.55 6780.48 4401.16 .73 6317.38 7187.31 4834.03 .77 6633.24 7618.55 5294.92 .80 6964.91 8075.66 5785.43 .83 7313.15 8560.20 6307.23 .86 7678.81 9073.82 6862.11 .89 8062.75 9618.24 7451.91 .92 8465.89 10195.34 8078.61 .95 8889.18 10807.06 8744.26 .98 9333.64 11455.48 9451.05 1.01 9800.32 12142.81 10201.26 1.04 10290.34 12871.38 10997.31 1.07 10804.85 13643.66 11841.75 1.10 11345.10 14462.28 12737.25 1.12 11912.35 15330.02 13686.62 1.15 12507.97 16249.82 14692.83 1.17 13133.37 17224.81 15759.02 1.20 13790.04 18258.30 16888.46 1.22 14479.54 19353.80 18084.61 1.25 15203.51 20515.03 19351.13 1.27 15963.69 21745.93 20691.84 1.30 16761.87 23050.69 22110.78 1.32 17599.97 24433.73 23612.19 1.34 Jack Jack Perrine | ATHENA Programming, Inc | 818-798-6574 | ---------------- | 1175 No. Altadena Drive | fax 398-8620 | jack@minerva.com | Pasadena, CA 91107 US | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Fwd: [FWIW] Err and get UNpromoted... (fwd) Date: 05 Jan 1997 13:30:59 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- powerkid@ix.netcom.com, mritze@orin.webspan.net, SafanNews@aol.com, SueSuth@aol.com, pwatson@utdallas.edu --------------------- Forwarded message: Sender: owner-fwiw@earth.execpc.com Reply-to: owner-fwiw@earth.execpc.com FWIW NEW U.N. BOSS WAS 'MAIN STRATEGIST' OF SOMALIA DISASTER By Cliff Kincaid One of the architects of the debacle that left 18 American soldiers dead and 84 wounded in Somalia in 1993 has been rewarded with the post of secretary general of the United Nations. Beginning Jan. 1, 1997, veteran U.N. bureaucrat Kofi Annan will take over for departing U.N. Secretary General Boutros Boutros-Ghali. Annan won the job when the United States and other countries complied with the demands of African states that one of their own get the post. Yet Annan, who is from Ghana, rarely sets foot on his native soil. Annan, who served as under secretary general for peacekeeping at the U.N. and greatly expanded its military activities, is now being touted as an American-educated, English-speaking professional manager who will somehow "reform" the 50,000- strong worldwide bureaucracy. But it is almost 30 years, will faithfully implement an aggressive U.N. agenda that includes global environmentalism and population control. In an effort to sell Annan to a skeptical Congress, President Clinton called him a "true proponent of reform," while the Washington Post's U.N. correspondent, John Goshko, claimed that Annan had the "endorsement of American conservatives" who remained nameless. But John Bolton, a former assistant secretary of state, told Human Events that Annan is an "international bureaucrat" whose primary qualification seems to be that he is "not as outrageous as Boutros-Ghali." Boutros-Ghali had alarmed Congress by, among other things, calling for a standing U.N. army and global taxes to fund U.N. programs. Annan's position on global taxes is yet unknown, but in the area of peacekeeping, former Amb. Frank Ruddy said Annan has "never met an opportunity for multilateral assertiveness he didn't like." The Earth Times, a pro-U.N. publication, thought Annan's chances of becoming secretary general were dead because he was "seen as wearing Bosnia as an albatross." In Bosnia as well as Somalia, U.N. peacekeepers were forced to withdraw under humiliating circumstances. In Somalia, after they were massacred, the bodies of some U.S. soldiers were stripped naked and dragged through the streets by mobs shouting "Victory over America." An investigation conducted by Tom Farer, now the dean of the Graduate School of International Studies at the University of Denver, identified Annan as one of the "main strategists and operational directors" at the U.N. of the failed nation-building scheme. Farer's remarks were included in a Sept. 29, 1995, bipartisan U.S. Senate report on the debacle prepared by Senators John Warner (R.-Va.) and Carl Levin (D.-Mich.). Today, Farer says that Annan cannot be solely blamed for policies pursued both by the U.N. and the Clinton Administration. This is undoubtedly true and helps explain why Annan came to be perceived as "Washington's candidate." But for Congress, which never approved the bloody Somalia intervention, there is absolutely no reason to accept the fiction that Annan is a reformer with a clean record. The U.N.'s Office of Internal Oversight Services released a September 30 report that observed that the U.N. "has lived without independent and effective oversight for decades" and that the peacekeeping area continues to be plagued by waste. In a typical case, 59 containers of food rations were shipped to the U.N. military mission in Haiti, got spoiled in the hot sun and had to be destroyed at a cost of $40,000. In another sensitive area, the U.N. has been caught continuing to pay a $102,000 annual pension to former U.N. Secretary General Kurt Waldheim, ten years after he was labeled a suspected Nazi war criminal by the U.N. and the U.S. Justice Department and barred from the United States. Nevertheless, the U.N. campaign for more U.S. dollars appears to be striking a chord. House Speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.) told the GOPAC organization on November 11, "We must reform the U.N. but then, frankly, we have to pay for the U.N. And that, frankly, is going to be a real challenge." It is a challenge because top Republicans, including House Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R.-Tex.), had put their names on a bill introduced by Rep. Joe Scarborough (R.-Fla.) in the last session of Congress to get the United States completely out of the U.N. Sen. Jesse Helms (R.-N.C.) has threatened to do the same thing on the Senate side. Having sunk $100 billion into the U.N. over the last 51 years, the United States now makes payments of $3 or $4 billion a year to the world body. Moreover, a March 1996 General Accounting Office report found that, during the fiscal years 1992-95, a staggering $6.6 billion had been taken out of the accounts of various federal agencies, especially defense, to pay for expanding U.N. military activities - a figure that more than makes up for the $1.5 billion "debt" the U.S. supposedly owes the world organization. This money was withheld because of the continuing failure of the U.N. to reform itself. Curiously, for an organization with supposed money problems, the U.N. has amassed a $15-billion pension fund for retiring U.N. bureaucrats. It is considered the best-managed U.N. program - for obvious reasons. Like Waldheim, Boutros-Ghali can retire on $102,000 a year. [end] Source: Human Events, p.6-7 December 27, 1996 Subscriptions: 1-800-787-7557 Web Site: http://www.aim.org/aim.html =================================================================== The above text comes from The BIRCH BARK BBS / 414-242-5070 (long distance callers require manual upgrade, usually within hours) =================================================================== To subscribe to FWIW simply send the following: To: listserv@execpc.com Subj: (leave blank) Message: subscribe fwiw That's it! The welcome letter will tell you more! =================================================================== To unsubscribe, simply send the above instructed message, substituting "unsubscribe" where appropriate. =================================================================== Home page: http://www.execpc.com/~jfish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: piml] Republic of Texas in the News (fwd) Date: 05 Jan 1997 13:34:18 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Cc: rd@Syninfo.COM Republic of Texas in the News Almost a year ago the so-called 'General Council of the Provisional Government of the Republic of Texas' kicked out their first 'President', J. C. Van Kirk (a good move in my opinion). He attempted to maintain his separate 'government' for a while and then faded away. Recently there has been another split in the 'Provisional Government'. The bulk of the 'General Council' kicked out the 'President', the 'Ambassador' Rick McLaren, and the 'General Council' members who supported McLaren. They have a new web page at: http://web2.airmail.net/dabeni/ McLaren and crew are still using the 'Republic of Texas' web page at: http://www.flash.net/~robertk/ Yep, you guessed it - they kicked out the errant 'General Council' members who had kicked them out. I wonder who kicked out who first? This soap opera is getting difficult to follow and no one knows what will become of these two groups who both claim to be the only lawful government of all the land and all the people of Texas. The facts about the 'Republic of Texas' are on the web page at: http://nighthawk.reichel.net/patriot/essays/rt.html My guess is that they will both fade away after many proclamations and much sputtering. One thing I know for sure: On November 12, 1994 at the Alamo I led about 500 participants of the Texas Constitutional Militia in an oath to support and defend both the Constitution of the United States of America and the Constitution of the STATE of Texas (lawfully enacted by the vote of the people of Texas in 1876). Although a few misguided individuals have broken from the TCM to join the 'Republic of Texas' Defense Forces, the Texas Constitutional Militia remains faithful to their oath. For Liberty, Bill Utterback butterb@connecti.com (backup: butterb597@aol.com) "It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error." U.S. Supreme Court in American Communications Association v. Douds, 339 U.S. 382,442 Libertarian Party: http://www.rahul.net/lp/ Fully Informed Jury Association: http://www.primenet.com/~slack/fija/fija.html Gun Owners of America: http://www.gunowners.org/ -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzLFeJcAAAEEAMI46f9z/FPADKcgTeFXl5Eeinvn++ZpkJieQS34uKd5y5uo GHqt/o5ZKEuyxpv2RIfktrp5u2vXKeDOQDXEVozwIVCyf01BfDxyhTsqVKr1r8rh jpBIwTEFfevVN61a5ek//lgb45yybtkvi+R57Ydv0k+EGG8w4Q37IrX2qee5AAUR tCVCaWxsIFV0dGVyYmFjayA8YnV0dGVyYkBjb25uZWN0aS5jb20+ =6Xz3 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Radio in 1997 Date: 05 Jan 1997 13:59:12 -0800 Hi folks - I've recently seen references to a law that took effect Jan 1, 1997, which gives the President the right to determine what radio programs or stations can be removed from the air due to "national security." Does anybody have an info on the specifics of this? Was it an executive order? Part of the Terrorism Bill? Where is it? Thanks in advance. - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Tree Huggin' Cannibals Date: 05 Jan 1997 14:06:18 -0800 Ed Wolfe wrote the following, but he's too humble to put it out on the net. So I'm going to :) I think it's excellent! He's at ewolfe@involved.com... - Monte Tree-Huggin' Cannibals It was Dec 24, and my dad and I had driven out to the woods to cut down our Christmas tree for the year. We looked at a lot of trees that I thought were perfectly fine, but Dad insisted that we had to find the "the right tree" and that we'd know it when we saw it. Almost an hour into our search I found out he was right. We found The Right Tree. It was 7 feet tall and perfectly cone shaped. It looked like it had already been trimmed for us. Thats when I said something that led to a unexpected, strange and hard to beleive history lesson. We looked at the tree for a minute in silence and I said, "It's so beautiful, I almost don't want to cut it down." I could've swore a look of fear crossed my father's face just for a second, then he laughed and said, "Don't you go turnin' into no Tree-Hugger now." "What's a tree-hugger?" I asked him. "They were a group of crazy people that tried to take over the country at the end of the last century. They loved trees so much that people called 'em Tree-Huggers." "Oh, come on Dad. People that loved trees?" I asked him wondering what the punch-line was. "I'm serious, Zach. These people loved trees so much, they thought it would be better for a man or a baby to die than it would for a tree. A lot of loggers used to get hurt and killed because of them sabotaging trees in the forest, planting bombs in logging trucks, and from snipers hiding in the tree tops." "How did people get so crazy as to kill people to save trees? It doesn't make any sense. What started it all?" I knew he was serious but it was hard to believe that such a thing was possible. Before he answered, he handed me the saw and told me to start cutting. He sat down and lit up his pipe, apparently preparing to tell a story and let me do all the work. He worked his pipe for a bit and then told me this story: "I guess it all started back in the nineteen-sixties. For some reason that no one's ever figured out, things just started changing almost as if it was planned out ahead of time by somebody. It seems like it all started one day, but I guess it happened over a period of some years. Music started changing to songs about sex and violence, kids stopped obeying their parents, they started takin' drugs, stopped bathing and grooming, girls grew the hair on their legs and guys stopped cutting the hair on their heads and faces. It was like an invasion. Then suddenly there seemed to be a split between the people. You were either a Hippy which was considered by the younger people as the good guys, or you were part of what they called The Establishment, which consisted of most of the older people, like thirty and older, or people that still tried to live right and believed in God." I stopped sawing and interrupted him here. As strange as this was, it was hard to believe that people could live without believing in God. "What did they believe in if not God?" "Not all of 'em didn't believe in God, but the ones that did didn't believe in any God you or I would recognize. And they certainly didn't call Him Jehovah or Yahweh. They believed in The Universal Consciousness, the Yin and Yang, the Primal Force, anything but the God of the Bible." "What were all those other things?" I asked him, sitting down to take a break from the sawing and because the story was getting more interesting as he went. The woods already smelled like trees, but now the smell of pine was sharp from the tree I'd been cutting on. I listened to him and breathed in the strangely pleasant mixture of his pipe tobacco and the pine trees. "For the most part they were just attempts to explain God in such a way as to not have to be accountable for their actions if you ask me. They got a lot of it from Asian and Indian culture and sometimes just made it up on drugs that made you see things that weren't there, and think things that only made sense to other people using the same drugs. I know it doesn't sound like it could really happen, but it did. And it made as little sense then as it does now." "Then what happened?" "Well, as time went on, the Hippies started talking about the way they thought society oughtta be run. They wanted to live off the land and be natural and not have any discipline regarding behavior and sex and such. So they started what they called Communes. And a lot of them - " "You mean like Communists?" I interrupted. "Well, yes. Essentially, but they weren't all aligned with the Communist Party. Not yet anyway. A lot of them moved out to the woods and started their own little mini-communities where they shared just about everything and nobody owned anything, not even their own wives or husbands. Everything was communal property." He paused to re-start his pipe and I said, "Doesn't sound like that could really work." "And it didn't," he resumed. "They didn't last very long. Without any moral guidelines or principles, they didn't have much of a community. Even though they thought they were so much superior to the rest of us "old-fashioned" people. They thought they were the first to think of Utopias. But before long, they were pretty much destroyed by man's natural tendency to do himself in without any type of guidance or discipline. "Since no one owned anything, no one much cared about the upkeep of things. An attitude of, "It ain't mine" prevailed. Since no one had to work for a living, many chose not to. Forcing someone to work was considered "invading his space" and "running a bummer trip" onto someone. The smarter ones who tried to explain that work had to be done were accused of sounding like "the man" and so didn't push the issue." "How do you know so much about them, Dad? You sound like you were there." "I was," he said, and looked at me to see what I was gonna say. I was speechless. I didn't know what to say. Then finally I asked, "Did you hug trees?" and we both started laughing. "No. I didn't," he said finally. "I wasn't with 'em that long, but that's another story. Now where was I?" "You said the people didn't work." "Oh yeah. Not only that, but they got jealous and fought over the sexual shenanigans that went on. Most of 'em preached sharing but didn't like having to be the ones on the giving side of sharing. Each man seemed to have fantasies of having a harem but didn't like the idea of his woman being in another man's bed. So that didn't work. And with few people willing to work or take care of their property, there was a lot of time for rolling in the hay." "How did they survive if they didn't work.?" "First, they grew their own stuff and had their own animals before they decided that keeping livestock was animal slavery and that eating animals was murder. I know, but just let me finish or we'll never get home with this tree. So most of the communes died out and the people went back to bein' regular bums without any pretensions of being on the vanguard of a new civilization. But some of 'em weren't so bad and they realized that if they grew their own food, they could sell it to others. So they started up little business they called co-ops, meaning that they all cooperated in the business and shared the proceeds. A few of those did okay and that idea survived for quite a while. But overall, as time went on, the split between the two sides became more pronounced, but people realized they couldn't get away from society and so they decided to change it." I went back to cutting the tree although I had a million questions and I would've preferred to sit there and interrupt between listening. Dad said he realized he was spending too much time on the finer details and if he kept it up, he'd never finish telling me what happened. I had forgotten that he was supposed to be telling me why people hugged trees. He told me that the hippies pretty much became part of regular society but tried to instigate changes the best way they could according to their own interests and abilities. Soon, he said the split between the sides wasn't as noticeable unless people were talking politics, then you could see what side a person was on. "At first the Hippies were opposed to the Establishment, as they called it, but somewhere along the line, and I don't know exactly how this happened, it must've occurred in increments, they became the Establishment. I guess their ideas spread the most because they were the most appealing to people that wanted a fair share of everything without having to earn it, and didn't want to abide by any moral guidelines, and liked being able to blame everything that ever went wrong on someone else like their parents or society in general. So now the people against the government and Establishment were the people that used to be the dreaded "normal" people that worked for a living and took their families to church on Sunday. It's not like this happened over night. But with the power of television, newspapers and magazines, it was very successful and happened sooner than you would think." I finished with the tree so Dad stopped his story long enough to help me get it back to the truck and into the bed. He caught his breath while navigating us off of the dirt road and out of the forest. When we got back to the highway, he continued the story. "By the nineteen-eighties, the hippies who were now called Liberals had their agenda pretty well set and they were no longer viewed as "freaks" or "Commies." And now we're getting close to the part you wanted to know about. They believed in a lot of things that sound strange now, but were pretty popular back then. They still thought people should get paid without working, but now they wanted to take money from the people who did work and give it to those that didn't. They thought that not only was it a good idea for people of the same sex to have sex with each other but that people who didn't like the idea and said so should be considered "hate criminals." That was one of the biggest things they had going. Anything you disapproved of had to be because you were so full of hatred. It never seemed to occur to them that they had just as much, if not more hatred for the people and ideas they were opposed to. At least the non-Liberals weren't trying to force their way on everybody as much. For the most part they just wanted to be left alone to live their lives the way they wanted to." "Didn't the Constitution allow them to do just that?" I asked. I could believe that a lot of weird ideas floated around, but you couldn't just go and interfere with other people's lives if you didn't like the way they lived or thought. Everyone knows the Constitution has made it so that people have had freedom for about 250 years. I couldn't see how they could get around it. "Believe it or not, they started outlawing freedom a little at a time despite the Constitution," he answered. "But how could they? It's the Supreme Law!" "People let 'em, " he said, sounding as if he still felt some kind of shame. "At first they were kind of tricked into it. They believed it was for their own good to give up some of their liberties. Then one day, people just didn't know they were supposed to have more freedom and it was so customary to just ignore the Constitution and pass any law the Liberals came up with that the people who complained were regarded as bigger freaks than the Hippies were in the 60's and 70's. In fact, they were considered far worse and dangerous too. But that's another story in itself. Just suffice it to say that they used the communications media of the time and the schools to teach that the people who believed in the Constitution and God were freaks and a threat to equality and peace. Oh yeah, and the environment. I keep getting sidetracked here." He asked me to load his pipe. I did and gave it back to him. After he got it going again, he went on with the part that started this whole story. But by now, I wanted to hear all about life in the 20th Century. It sounded like complete fiction. "So, although there were two sides - the Liberals and the Conservatives, there were degrees or gradations on both sides. Each side had what was called Extremists. Though you never heard much about Liberal Extremists - probably because they were mostly in charge of the media. The liberals were called the Left Wing and the Conservatives were called the Right Wing. On the Extreme Left Wing, you had the people who wanted total Communism. They were the ones that started the tree-hugging nonsense. With no God or religion in their lives, they had to have something they could hold as sacred. It's natural for man to want to believe and worship because we're supposed to. But since they didn't believe in God or the Bible, they had to invent things to take the place of them." "Like the people that worshipped the golden calf when Moses was on the mountain getting the Law?" I asked, finally starting to be able to make some sense of these people. "Exactly. Only worse. They decided that trees were sacred. And animals too. Anyone who ate meat was a murderer. By then, most of 'em were calling their "God," Mother Earth. And I guess the most obvious thing that comes forth from the Earth is trees. Since trees and animals were living things, they considered them to be sacred. They made laws forbidding things that would threaten the natural habitats of the more attractive species, like bears, wolves, dolphins and things like that. And they did everything they could to keep trees from being cut down. The older the tree, the more sacred it was. Sometimes when a site was scheduled for logging, these guys would go and chain themselves to the trees so the loggers couldn't cut 'em. Maybe that's where they got the name "tree-huggers." "Didn't they understand that all of the things they needed came from trees, animals and the Earth?" "Apparently, they didn't. They were like the people long ago in India who realized one day that everything that sustained their lives came from cows. They made shelter and bedding from cow-hide, they lived off the meat and the milk, and they used the bones for weapons and tools. They even used internal organs for water bags and who knows what else. Then some "wise-man" declared that since cows provided them with everything they needed to survive, they were a gift from God and should be considered sacred. And since cows were sacred, they forbid killing them. Making the cows sacred just did away with all the things that made them sacred and then the people had holy cows all over the place and none of the things they needed to live. They lived in famine for hundreds of years before they saw the errors of their ways." "It's unbelievable how stupid people can be." "Yeah. The people had to eat the same food as the cows now, but since the cows were sacred, they had first dibs on the food, so the people starved in many cases. Food running everywhere and not a thing to eat. " "So what about the Tree-Huggers? If the trees and animals were sacred to them what did they eat? Did they starve to death like the Indians?" "Worse. At first they ate fruits and vegetables, and some of them ate fish. Fish ain't cute. But God-forbid anyone should kill a dolphin while tryin' to catch a tuna. You see, not all marine life were important. But before I get side-tracked, let me finish. We're almost home." I looked and was surprised to see we had already gotten off the highway and were only a few miles from our house. I never knew History could be so interesting. "After a while, some of the tree-huggers started to realize that taking fruits off of trees was disrespectful to something so sacred. So they stopped eating most fruit and tried to get the other tree-huggers to do the same. As crazy as it sounds, the idea caught on and it wasn't too much later that they decided that vegetables were just smaller versions of trees and equally sacred. So they started to not eat vegetables either. By then of course, they had stopped killing even ugly fish so they didn't have much to eat. Their only option was to create synthetic foods, but that didn't work because all ingredients for everything under the sun, come from either earth, water, plants or animals. So they couldn't very well worship the earth while at the same time plunder it for their survival. Even though their numbers were decreasing all the time because so many of them had turned to homosexuality and thus weren't reproducing themselves. And a dd to that the fact that more and more of them were dying off everyday from diseases they contracted from homosexuality. But a people of any number need to eat something." "So what did they do?" I couldn't imagine a solution to the predicament they put themselves in. Denying themselves everything that sustained life the way they did. "Well, there was only one thing that they never had any respect for and in no way did they consider it to be on an equal par with plants or animals." He paused as if I could possibly guess the answer. As we pulled into our driveway, I asked him, "What was it they had no respect for and would provide them with something to eat?" He turned off the engine, took his keys out of the ignition, looked right at me and said... "People." Ed Wolfe - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: Re: Tree Huggin' Cannibals Date: 05 Jan 1997 23:03:48 -0500 (EST) Very much on this topic, I saw Tom Hayden (You know... the one Hanoi Jane was married to before she glommed on to Ted Turncoat.) on the tube last night plugging his book, _The Lost Gospel of the Earth: A Call for Renewing Nature, Spirit and Politics_. Hayden was quite explicit, much more so than the eco-commies usually are. He wants to see everyone indoctrinated with a new eco-religion. He suggests that we should "discover" a new gospel that was accidentally left out of the Bible that would provide a fundamental, inarguable ("beyond seular evaluation") rationalization for undoing the last 800 years of progress. Just in case his meaning wasn't sufficiently clear, he gave examples. He thinks that people who cut down trees should be thrown in jail and he thinks that people who disagree with his eco religion should be considered as menally ill (having a "disfunctional relationship with the environment"). He speaks for our would-be masters and he scares me. bd On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Liberty or Death wrote: > Ed Wolfe wrote the following, but he's too humble to put it out > on the net. So I'm going to :) > > I think it's excellent! He's at ewolfe@involved.com... > > - Monte > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Tree-Huggin' Cannibals > > It was Dec 24, and my dad and I had driven out to the > woods to cut down our Christmas tree for the year. We looked at > a lot of trees that I thought were perfectly fine, but Dad > insisted that we had to find the "the right tree" and > that we'd know it when we saw it. Almost an hour into our search > I found out he was right. We found The Right Tree. > > It was 7 feet tall and perfectly cone shaped. It looked like > it had already been trimmed for us. Thats when I said something > that led to a unexpected, strange and hard to beleive history > lesson. We looked at the tree for a minute in silence and I > said, "It's so beautiful, I almost don't want to cut it down." > > I could've swore a look of fear crossed my father's > face just for a second, then he laughed and said, "Don't you > go turnin' into no Tree-Hugger now." > > "What's a tree-hugger?" I asked him. > > "They were a group of crazy people that tried to take > over the country at the end of the last century. They loved > trees so much that people called 'em Tree-Huggers." > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: High-tech tracking by police raises legal outcry (fwd) Date: 05 Jan 1997 23:37:55 -0500 (EST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From The Orange County Register, Front Page, Sunday 1-5-97 Police across the country secretly tail hundres of people each year by attaching high-tech transmitters to suspects' cars and tracking them on squadroom computer screens. Detectives, federal agents and prosecutors routinely conceal use of the technology from defendants, their lawyers and the public, an investigation by The Orange County Register has found. Autorities in Orange County often plant the devices on cars without getting a warrant from a judge. ... The technology, marketed by a company called Teletrac, is simple: A tramsmitter sends a radio signal to a computer, which pinpoints the car's street location. Police with the proper software can follow a transimitter-equipped vehicle in real time as it moves across a street map on a computer screen. ... "Is there any expectation of privacy on the whereabouts of a car on a public street? I suggest there isn't," said [Jeffrey] Ferguson, president of the county's narcotics officer's association. "I've told them they don't need a warrant unless they intend to enter a car." ... The system automatically records the time, date, location and duration of the car's stops. The system could tell police, for example, that the suspect's car stopped on Main Street between 4th and 5th streest for about an hour on Jan. 5. The records help police focus their investigation on places the suspects visits. ------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: RE: "War on the West" (fwd) Date: 06 Jan 1997 08:28:38 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- This is an interesting article from a small newspaper in Utah dated January 1, 1997. The newspaper is 'The San Juan Record'. San Juan County is the largest county in Utah, and also the least populated. The folks down there recognize a war when they see one. Leander Pearson leander@xmission.com "War on the West" gains a head of steam The language of the conflict is peppered with war metaphors. It may simply be rhetoric, but increasing numbers of rural Westerners are upset with the federal government after a series of federal land actions (and inactions) in 1996. Wilderness A wilderness bill sponsored by the Utah Republican delegation is defeated after a filibuster in the Senate. The bill would designate two million acres of federal land in Utah as wilderness, including more than 350,000 acres in San Juan County. Wilderness advocates seek the designation of 5.7 million acres, including more than one million in San Juan County. Reinventory Secretary of the Interior Bruce Babbitt orders a reinventory of federal lands previously considered not worthy of wilderness status. Teams of "wilderness experts" fan out across San Juan County. The reinventory is stopped by a federal judge. Road (dis)agreement the Bureau of Land Management notifies San Juan County that a 1984 agreement regarding road maintenance on federal lands is null and void. Many local officials fear the move will increase wilderness acreage and eliminate County right-of-way claims to thousands of miles of roads. National Monument President Bill Clinton, With no input or consultation with local leaders, creates the Grand Staircase - Escalante National Monument in neighboring Garfield and Kane counties. Creation of the monument effectively eliminates plans to develop enormous coal deposits in monument boundaries. Focus on San Juan Focus switches to San Juan County in October, when San Juan County road graders grade several roads on Harts Point, including areas under wilderness consideration. A protester is arrested, lawsuits are filed, and RS-2477 claims may be settled in federal courts. Lake Powell The Sierra Club recommends draining Lake Powell and it appears to be gaining credence in the environmental community. Under any scenario, draining the lake is a long term issue. In the short term, fees will be charged at the lake and porta-potties are required to stem the impact of the millions of visitors. Cedar Mesa Due to antiquated facilities and burgeoning visitation, the BLM approves construction of a new ranger station on Cedar Mesa. Comb Wash When the BLM released a management proposal for Comb Wash, more than 100 county residents attended the public hearing, apparently deciding that local participation in the federal land process in going to be necessary. A group of off-road enthusiasts form an advocacy group. Voters have their say In November elections, Democratic candidates are defeated throughout the western United States, including U.S. Representative Bill Orton. Orton is defeated in the Utah district that includes San Juan County by Republican challenger Chris Cannon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: Withdrawing from Social Security Date: 06 Jan 1997 10:45:46 -0500 Jack, Many of the points you make have value. I must disagree, however, with your analysis of the DJIA. Your analysis is in error in that it relies on the index price, neglecting the dividends paid. Once you account for the reinvestment of dividends, back into the index, the total returns are significantly higher. This is a pretty common error. One of the best summaries of *really long term* stock market gains is contained in "Global Investing, The Professional's Guide to the World Capital Markets" by Roger Ibbotson and Gary Brinson. On page 159, extracting from Table 8-4: Period Compound Annual return Nominal Real 1790-1990 8.3% 6.6% 1790-1839 7.5 7.6 1840-1889 7.9 7.5 1890-1939 6.3 4.8 1940-1990 11.5 6.7 Note that real return is inflation adjusted, nominal is in nominal dollar terms. Note how relatively constant the real return is, over half-century periods. These returns are not adjusted for taxes, which are only significant in the last half-century. All this says nothing about current short-term prospects for the U.S. stock market, as current valuations have many reasonable people nervous. Typical real returns on U.S. Treasuries varies between 0% and 1.5%, just for contrast. ciao, jcurtis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Re: High-tech tracking by police raises legal outcry (fwd) Date: 06 Jan 1997 07:36:20 -0800 Brad, >>>>>>> [...] "Is there any expectation of privacy on the whereabouts of a car on a public street? I suggest there isn't," said [Jeffrey] Ferguson, president of the county's narcotics officer's association. "I've told them they don't need a warrant unless they intend to enter a car." [...] <<<<<<< My take on this? Does the California 'stalker law' exempt police? Because the police are indeed engaged in stalking. Does spying without a warrant upon unsuspecting citizens exempt the police from legal action? There _is_ the expectation of privacy and expectation that one will not be spied upon by those who are employed by the citizen. Mr. Ferguson may suggest all he'd like, but if the matter appears in court that it is lawful for the police to conduct unwarranted espionage against the citizenry, then the court must also rule that citizens may do likewise - against each other _and_ the government, something I find quite unlikely since there is no compelling need for either, without a warrant. What I'd really like to know here is, why is an agency that is supposed to be upholding the law, engaging in acts that subvert it? Why are the public servants always trying to push the envelope in the direction of negative freedom in an attempt to arrest ever more citizens? Just as a matter of interest, Brad, did the artical mention any frequencies used? Might just as well know, and carry a scanner around to foil any future possibilities. Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fires Destroy Museums (fwd) Date: 06 Jan 1997 01:09:24 PST On Jan 05, S.J. Kotchen at Catonsville Community College wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] THE BALTIMORE SUN, January 5, 1997, Page 2A FIRES DESTROY BUILDINGS AT COMPOUND IN WACO WACO, TEXAS - Suspicious fires destroyed three small buildings at the former Branch Davidian compound where cult leader David Koresh and 75 fellowers died in 1993 after a 51-day standoff with federal agents. No one was injured in the blazes last week at the Mount Carmel site, 10 miles east of Waco. The fires leveled a house and two museums that recount the cult's history, including the standoff. --S.J. Kotchen Jr. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: RE: Senate Confirmation of Albright (fwd) Date: 06 Jan 1997 14:43:41 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Hello! Hopefully everyone receiving this post will recognize the importance and relevance of this and pass it on to as wide a circulation as possible. The time is short, but through massive mailout on Internet amd the phone tree ideas, maybe we can let our Senators know our views. Please pass it on... Thanks! Wayne Wymore wwymore@efn.org =========================================================================== SENATE TO CONFIRM UN CONVENTION ADVOCATE MADELEINE ALBRIGHT FOR SECRETARY OF STATE THE NATURE OF THE ALERT On January 8 and 9, the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee is scheduled to vote on the confirmation of Madeleine Albright for Secretary of State. The full U.S. Senate is expected to vote soon thereafter. HSLDA opposes her confirmation specifically because of her support for two anti-family conventions: the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child and the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women. We have a unique opportunity to send the U.S. Senate a strong message that we do not want the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child ever ratified. BACKGROUND President Clinton, with the enthusiastic support of his wife Hillary, has nominated UN Ambassador Madeleine Albright to replace Warren Christopher as Secretary of State in his second administration. On February 23, 1995 UN Ambassador Madeleine Albright signed the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child for President Clinton. To date, largely as a result of your calls and letters, the U.S. Senate has refused to ratify this onerous treaty and we must continue to fight against ratification. This treaty is one of the most dangerous threats to our parental freedoms our nation has ever faced. It mandates we recognize that our children have, independent of their parents, the fundamental rights of association, freedom of religion, to privacy, and access to the media among many others. Parents who infringe on their children's rights in these areas could be subject to investigation by the child welfare department. The UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, by its own language, would affect "all forms of education" which includes home education. It mandates "the elimination of any stereotyped concept of the roles of men and women . . . in all forms of education... by the revision of textbooks and school programs.. . ." One of its clearly stated goals is to eliminate the traditional role of men. Albright strongly supports its ratification. What makes these treaties so dangerous is that they will become the "Supreme Law of the Land" when ratified by two-thirds of the Senate present at the time of the vote! (See Article 6, Sec. 2 of our U.S. Constitution.) ACTION Please activate your phone trees with the following message: On January 8 and 9, the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee is scheduled to vote on the confirmation of Madeleine Albright as Secretary of State with the full Senate vote to follow soon. Call your Senators and January 6 through 9. The Capitol Switchboard is 202-224-3121. Explain that you want the Senator to vote against the confirmation of Albright since she signed and is a major advocate of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. Emphasize that you are opposed to the ratification of this treaty which challenges both your parental rights and the sovereignty of this nation. The National Center for Home Education P.O. Box 125 Paeonian Springs, VA 22129 Phone: 540-338-7600 Fax: 540-338-9333 ============================================================================== If you think health care is expensive now, wait till you see what it costs when it's free... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: TWA 800 COVER-UP: The PROOF (fwd) Date: 06 Jan 1997 14:48:57 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- http://www.erols.com/igoddard/twa-fact.htm (free 2 copy (*)----------------(free 2 forward) TWA 800 INVESTIGATION COVER-UP: T H E P R O O F by Ian Williams Goddard Traces of the explosive PETN (used in both bombs and guided missiles) were found on the debris of TWA flight 800, which crashed off the Long Island shore on July 17, 1996 killing 230 people. The crash has been classified as an accident [1]. The finding of PETN was, however, not reveiled to the public at an FBI or NTSB press confrence. The only reason this most significant discovery became known to the American people was because several high-level investigators leaked the in- formation to the New York Times [2]. According to Reuters [3], the first FBI reaction to this leaked report was an official "no comment." When cheif FBI crash investigator James Kallstrom was asked how long he had known about this evi- dence, Reuters reported that "Kallstrom would not disclose how long he had known of the findings." According to the New York Times article [2]: The [postive] test was conducted as long as two weeks ago, invest- igators said. But instead of an- nouncing the finding then, F.B.I. officials decided to take extra- ordinary precautions to keep the findings secret as long as possible. The information was so tighly con- trolled that only three or four senior investigators knew about it until several [others]...were told...at a private briefing... The FBI withheld this major evidence for two weeks, and the only reason it ever got out was due to a leak. During those two weeks what were we being told by Kallstrom & Co.? That they had no definite evidence of a missile or bomb on board. Were we being lied to? Was there a cover- up underway? The simple and indisputable answer is "yes." Yet, even as explosives residue was found on the bodies of victims [4] and on the outside of the plane [2], the FBI moved quickly to sweep away the evidence that had become know to the public by suggesting that the explosive material must have been inadvertently tracked into the plane by Gulf War soldgers [5] or as a result of bomb training supposedly conducted inside the plane a few weeks before [6]. COVER-UP BY INTIMIDATION When asked by the press about the leaking of truth to the public, Reuters [3] reported that "Kallstrom appeared irritated... He said if the information had come from anyone on his staff, he would fire them." That -- quantified as fear of dishonorable dis- charge -- is intimidation. We've just seen proof of cover-up and now proof of intimidation. It is clear that this intimidation was initiated as a means to enforce and preserve the cover-up. If those who reveal the truth are to be fired, then only those who help to suppress the truth will remain hired. The facts prove that truth supression is the job for which FBI personell are being employed. With this proof of intimi- dation in hand, the question "How could they keep so many people quiet?" is answered loud and clear. INVESTIGATORS CALL FBI A "BLACK HOLE" Investigators at the reconstruction hangar in Calverton, New York consistently scored positive PETN "hits" with their "highly sophisticated" Egis bomb-detection system. However, secondary explosives tests conducted at FBI headquarters in Washington D.C. were consistently negative on the same debris. The second negative tests always superceded the first postive tests. According to the New York Times [6], with their positive tests constantly contraducted by the FBI in D.C., hangar investigators began to sus- pect that these FBI findings were part of an attempt to cover up the truth. As the New York Times reported: Certain federal agents, calling the FBI's laboratory in Washing- ton a "black hole," remained con- vinced that the bureau was hid- ing its positive lab confirmations. To put it bluntly, the investigators believed the FBI was lying. The above citation is the testimony of investigators telling us that they believe the FBI is conducting a cover-up. The evidence suggestst that while the truth stops at the top, the rank-and-file investigators are generally honest and through them reports have gotten the most true picture. One means, apart from intimidation, for the cover-up planners on the top to prevent leaks of truth from those partcial to the truth below them is to break the investigation into many pieces, thereby preventing any one person from seeing and thus revealing the whole picture. COMPARTMENTALIZATION It appears that even within the investigation, investigators operate in a atmosphere of per- vasive secrecy. is Describing day-to-day con- ditions inside the TWA 800 debris reconstruc- tion operation -- the center of the investiga- tion -- the New York Times [6] reported that: Word spread by whispers and winks. The secrecy, even among the federal agents, had people waiting to find "secure lines" before telephoning colleagues. The investigators invented load- ed phrases of circumspection. Such an effort of investigators to hide informa- tion not only from the press but from other in- vestigators clearly suggests that the investiga- tion has been broken down according to plan into compartmentalized units that hide information from each other. Such organization ensures that nobody can see the big picture and thus that everyone below the top is mostly in the dark. Such compartmentalization is the classical struc- ture of secretive government operations. The CIA, for example, compartmentalizes knowledge of its operations, allowing a given agent to know only as much as they need to know to perform their assignment. We can see such compartmentalization even in the reconstruction, where, unlike past crash recon- structions, TWA 800 has been or is still being (?) reassembled in at least three seperate hangars. In each hangar a seperate portion of the plane is being rebuilt [7]. Like the blind men and the elephant, if they cannot see the whole elephant, they cannot see the elephant. MOST INVESTIGATORS HONEST AT FIRST The evidence proves that rank-and-file investiga- tors are being intimidated into silence against their initial and natural inclinations to tell the truth. Such instinctive honesty is why, in case after case, we get the truth from a given investigator but then silence, indicating that after their wrongful respect of the truth they were censured. For example: after Medical Examiner Dr. Charles V. Wetli informed reporters that passengers in the forward portion for the plane were hit hard- est -- indicating that the major event was in the front, not the center of the plane -- the New York Times [6] reported that Dr. Wetli and others then "backed off even the shadings of meaning their examinations had produced. An ex- plosion had happened and killed people was as much as he could say." The statement, "x was as much as he could say," means: x was as much as he is ALLOWED to say. Forget about the most sevear trauma being expe- rienced by vicitms in the front of the plane. Forget about it! The event simply killed people, that is all you need to know, that is all Dr. Wetli is allowed to say. The truth is forbidden, the truth is covered away. CODE OF SILENCE TWA pilots who were interviewed by the St. Louis Post Dispatch [8] said that they had come to the conclusion that "people who had information con- cerning the explosion, including those who re- ported seeing a missile, had been pressured to remain silent." When a reporter from the Southampton Indepedent [9] was granted an "exclusive behind-the-scenes tour" of a Coast Guard station where debris were gathered -- a location that is "off-limits to the public and the press, except with special permis- sion" -- she observed ATF agetns and noted that "The press is forbidden to talk to their staff, or to the FBI agents on site." Not only is the press "forbidden to talk" but in- versly, ATF and FBI agents are prohibited from speaking to the press. There is therefore a man- ditory universal code of silence. As we can see, every effort has been made to keep the American people seperated from the truth about TWA 800. TOP SECRET DEBRIS The FBI's desire to conceal the debris from pub- lic view was clear from the start. The FBI even made sure that all photographs were developed on- sight so as to prevent the possibility that the truth might leak out through private-sector photo shops. As Newsweek (08/5/96) reported: FBI men stopped NTSB officials from photographing the wreckage because "they didn't want our people taking pictures and send- ing them out to Snappy photo" as opposed to a secure FBI lab... Indeed every effort was made to keep debris out of public site. In an article about the recovery scene on the public beach after the crash, Newsday [10] described a boathouse that was used to store the evidence that the Navy crash-recovery team was bringing ashore, observing that: [T]he boathouse...remained cor- doned off by police tape. Windows in the boathouse are blocked with cardboard, and the media is for- bidden to take pictures because investigators don't want evidence photographed. Logical analysis: what did the FBI-Navy do to the windows? They covered them up. What did they do to our eyes by default? They covered them up. What does the physical evidence * prove * that the authorities have been conducting? The evi- dence overwhelming confirms that the authorities have been prepetrating a cover-up of the truth about TWA 800. THEORY SUPPRESSION Not only is the FBI hiding (a) the debris, (b) the reconstruction, (c) the radar records, (d) the satellite records, (e) the photo negatives, but throughout the the investigation, even before the gathering of debris, the FBI and NTSB have constantly favored a bomb on-board or mechanical failure even when they are said to have zero sup- porting evidence, over the missile theory with over 150 consistent and uniformly triangulated eyewitnesses accounts of a missile hit according to investigators [11]. If theory X has 0 truth-points and theory Y has 150 truth-points, and yet Mr. Jones prefers and promotes theory X over Y, then logic clearly dic- tates that Mr. Jones must have an aversion to the truth and that he must want to suppress and cover up the truth. The FBI-Navy-NTSB cover-up is just so simple to see. CONCLUSION The numberous pieces of evidence presented in this report prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a superstructure of silence, circumspection, de- ception, and intimidation have been constructed around the official TWA 800 crash investigation. The logical and obvious objective of this super- structure is to conceal and suppress the truth about the sudden and tragic annihilation of TWA 800, which snuffed out the lives of 230 people. The American people have a right to know the truth about the crash of TWA 800. If the "govern- ment of the people" does not tell the people the truth about the deaths of hundreds of the people, but instead works to suppress the truth, then the government is not the servant but the master of the people, and a ruthless master at that. Such an abhornat reality is a wholesale desecration of the founding principles of this nation. May the truth and the people be set free. ************************************************************************ IAN GODDARD (igoddard@erols.com) Q U E S T I O N A U T H O R I T Y VISIT Ian Goddard's Universe -----> http://www.erols.com/igoddard ________________________________________________________________________ (c) 1997 Ian Williams Goddard - (*) free to copy nonprofit w/ attribute. TWA 800: THE FACTS --> http://www.erols.com/igoddard/twa-fact.htm WACO - WTC - OKC ---> http://www.erols.com/igoddard/facts.htm [1] LEXINGTON HERALD-LEADER: Sonar finds under- water wreckage, 07/21/96. [2] THE NEW YORK TIMES: Prime Evidence Found That Device Exploded in Cabin of Flight 800. Don Van Natta Jr., 08/23/96. [3] REUTERS: FBI Finds Traces of Explosive on TWA Debris, 08/23/96. [4] TIME DAILY: Chemical Found on TWA Victims' Bodies, 07/23/96. [5] THE WASHINGTON POST: TWA Probe: Building a Case Without Critical Evidence. Serge F. Kovaleski and Don Phillips, 10/03/96. [6] THE NEW YORK TIMES: Behind a Calm Facade Investigation Embodied Chaos, Distrust, Stress. Joe Sexton, 08/23/96. [7] NTSB REPORT: TWA 800 Investigation Chronology, September 24, 1996. [8] ST. LOUIS POST DISPATCH: Some TWA Pilots Sup- port Navy Missile Theory. Monte Reel, 11/09/96. [9] THE SOUTHAMPTON INDEPENDANT: TWA 800: The Search Continues. Debbie Tuma, 07/31/96. [10] NEWSDAY: Tent City at Command Center. Al Baker and Soraya Nelson, 07/21/96. [11] THE NEW YORK POST: TWA Probers: Missile Wit- nesses "Credible." Murray Weiss, 09/22/96. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: NRA board election Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:04:03 -0500 (EST) 'Scuse the dumb question, but isn't it about time that we should be receiving ballots for election of NRA board members? Y'all got yours yet? I haven't seen mine. bd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: High-tech tracking by police raises legal outcry (fwd) Date: 06 Jan 1997 14:09:50 PST The fact is, that espionage by the Police is _allready_ illegal. They used to do phone taps all the time without permission. Does COINTELPRO ring a bell? On Jan 6, E. J. Totty wrote: > Brad, > > >>>>>>> > [...] > >"Is there any expectation of privacy on the whereabouts of a car on a >public street? I >suggest there isn't," said [Jeffrey] Ferguson, president of the county's >narcotics officer's >association. "I've told them they don't need a warrant unless they intend >to enter a car." > [...] > <<<<<<< > > My take on this? > > Does the California 'stalker law' exempt police? Because the police >are indeed engaged in stalking. > Does spying without a warrant upon unsuspecting citizens exempt the >police from legal action? > > There _is_ the expectation of privacy and expectation that one will >not be spied upon by those who are employed by the citizen. > > Mr. Ferguson may suggest all he'd like, but if the matter appears >in court that it is lawful for the police to conduct unwarranted espionage >against the citizenry, then the court must also rule that citizens may do >likewise - against each other _and_ the government, something I find quite >unlikely since there is no compelling need for either, without a warrant. > > What I'd really like to know here is, why is an agency that is >supposed to be upholding the law, engaging in acts that subvert it? > > Why are the public servants always trying to push the envelope in >the direction of negative freedom in an attempt to arrest ever more >citizens? > > Just as a matter of interest, Brad, did the artical mention any >frequencies used? > Might just as well know, and carry a scanner around to foil any >future possibilities. > > >Ed > > -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 95 (fwd) Date: 07 Jan 1997 07:55:07 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Thanks to all paid subscribers, without whose support this effort would not be possible. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 95 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") NOTES OF MEETINGS/CONVERSATIONS ON INSLAW & FOSTERGATE (10/21/95) ================================================================= By "Mr. Mercedes" (Pseudonym) ----------------------------- When James Norman wrote the Forbes 1/31/95 cover story, "Oil, Guns & Greed" where he had worked for five years and was a Senior Editor at a $100,000 year salary. The focus of this cover story was Carlos Cardoen, a Chilean arms merchant who sold hundreds of millions of dollars worth of cluster bombs and other weapons to Iraq, while using Chase Manhattan Bank to finance his operation through "set up" oil trades and with the full cooperation and knowledge of DCI [Director of Central Intelligence] Bill Gates. He probably had no idea where it would lead and that 6 months later he would be abruptly fired on 8/16 and less than a week after I told him in person that he should expect to be fired quite soon because of what he had written outside of Forbes and because of what he was continuing to investigate. The Cardoen story led Norman to Harry Wechsler, Pres. of Boston Systematics and, purportedly, a former CIA and/or Mossad agent who has also been selling Inslaw's bootlegged and bugged enhanced PROMIS software around the world. Wechsler was also a key person involved in pulling off the October Surprise for the Israelis, according to Lt. Commander Alexander Martin (Ret.), who was involved in many 1980s covert ops as an aide to General Richard Secord (Ret.), and is now assisting with the investigations of the House Whitewater Committee. Wechsler's daughter, Dana, has been a senior editor at Forbes for 6-7 years, a CIA contract employee, and both have been sources for James Norman. The big question is, did they feed Norman disinformation to direct him away from Wechsler's key role in the illegal sale of PROMIS from his subsidiary company, Israeli Systematics. This article led Norman into [investigating] government software theft and espionage, covert activities of computerized money laundering and drugs and arms dealing, interweaving a cast of characters, government agencies and companies which include: Inslaw, the CIA, NSA, Mossad, Vince Foster, Webster Hubbell, Robert Maxwell, Arkansas billionaire Jackson Stephens, Systematics (Jackson Stephens-owned company and now merged into Alltel with Stephen's 8 percent interest), numerous secret Swiss bank accounts, which lead right up to and included Bill and Hillary Clinton, and former Presidents Reagan and Bush, all sown together with a thread called PROMIS (Prosecutor's Management Information Systems) software. The intent of this report is to present evidence and leads, without pre-conceived notions or hidden agendas, which should be objectively investigated and reported by unbiased journalists in order to honestly verify or refute the information of James Norman and others. This document doesn't presume to be the final word, but it is an attempt to lay out possible evidence and people within the Clinton administration, Park Police, Department of Justice, [which] Kenneth Starr's investigations and the Senate and House Whitewater/Foster hearings should be investigating. One of the most invisible and invincible central figures in this cast is Jackson Stephens. He has been a major contributor to Bush, loaned the Clinton Election Committee a critical $2 million from his family's Worthen Bank (Stephens recently had it purchased by the larger Boatsman Bank of St. Louis, thus ending a Federal Reserve investigation), and is now, of all things, the Finance Chairman for Bob Dole. Stephens is an investor in or owner of numerous companies such as Beverly Enterprises (a major national nursing home chain and one of Earl Brian's numerous companies; Earl Brian, another central figure, will be described later), and two Arkansas newspapers, the Northwest Arkansas Times and the Morning News of Northwest Arkansas. He was also the original front man for BCCI in the late 1970s when he tried to get them (M. Potts, N. Kochan & R. Whittington, "Dirty Money: The Inside Story of BCCI" and John Beaty "Outlaw Bank: BCCI") into the U.S. through the purchase of First American (Wall Street Journal article, 8/7/95, "Who is Dan Lasater," Wall Street Journal 2-page profile article, ?/?/93, and Monetary & Economic Review 6/92 article, "Clinton Selected to be Next President"), prior to Clark Clifford and Roger Altman getting involved through First American Bank. Despite Mike Wallace's "60 Minutes" 10/18 shoddy and slanted hatch-job report on journalist Christopher Ruddy and Lisa Foster's New Yorker 9/11/95 "conspiracy rebuttal" article, a big mystery still remains as to whether or not all or some of these elements and inter-related people came together to cause the death of Vince Foster. As Chicago investigative reporter Sherman Skolnick states, Lisa Foster's "cover-up" story should be seriously questioned. In his 9/11/95 "The Money Trail" release, Skolnick reports that Lisa Foster received $285,000 just 4 days prior to Vince Foster's death from bank heir Richard Mellon Scaife, who passed it through Sheila Foster Anthony (Vince Foster's sister and former Congressman Beryl Anthony's wife). Furthermore, it just so happens that Sheila Foster Anthony is in a very important Department of Justice section which is involved in appointments of Federal Judges, U.S. Attorneys, and U.S. Marshalls. Also, Richard Mellon Scaife is facing possible prosecution on alleged federal banking regulations violations (Sarah McClendon's Washington Report, 9/5/95). Additionally, when Lisa Foster was questioned by the FBI on 5/1/94, she raised doubts about Vince Foster's so-called "suicide note." She stated that Vince Foster had written it on or about 7/11/93 and they were his talking points for a scheduled meeting on 7/22/93 with the President and an upcoming Congressional hearing, neither of which Vince Foster kept since he was already conveniently dead on 7/20. Additionally that so-called last "relaxation weekend" at major Clinton and Democratic fundraiser Nathan Landau's shore estate with Webster Hubbell and others was a "damage control" session, bugged by the CIA, for the impending scandal described below in which Vince Foster was under investigation for espionage. Besides all the forensic and crime scene discrepancies and the apparent "cover-up" by the White House personnel's inappropriate actions after Foster's death, there was a significant discrepancy with the gun Vince Foster supposedly shot himself with and the "silver colored gun" which Lisa Foster also told the FBI that Vince had brought with him from Arkansas. (Mike Blair's "Foster Gun, Note Questions" Spotlight 8/21/95). If Vince Foster was shot with the "silver colored gun" which was found in the park near his body, why did Lisa Foster find another gun in its place on the very night after his death? And finally, in addition to all the other mysterious evidence found on or around his body, why did ballistics and forensics experts find that Vince Foster was shot by a turn-of-the-century Colt .38 caliber Army revolver? James Norman completed his Vince Foster story for Forbes in April of 1995 and it was ready for publication in the May issue, after being thoroughly checked and edited, but [it] was pulled after receiving an April 25 letter from the White House Press Secretary, Michael McCurry. Norman was then given permission to have his article published by another magazine (Media Bypass Magazine, 8/95, "Fostergate") if he withheld his Forbes affiliation. He has just come out with a followup article, "Fostergate II" in the 10/95 [Media Bypass] issue. Norman claims he was fired for continuing to investigate the Vince Foster story, which led back to Forbes' Chairman Emeritus and former Secretary of Defense, Caspar Weinberger. Forbes' media relations person, Ray Healy, claimed that "James Norman resigned and that he was a good journalist and they would miss him," but because of their editorial policy he would not comment on anything written outside of Forbes. In the process of investigating the Vince Foster story, Norman came into contact with Charles "Chuck" Hayes, purportedly a former CIA agent with S1 clearance (highest level) with a codename of "Running Fox." In my interview with him, he claims to have been involved in the CIA's Cuba covert ops to run weapons into Castro to overthrow Pres. Batista. Hayes stated that he knew George Bush as the CIA's paymaster as far back as 1958, all of which he [Bush] denies (see [J. Edgar] Hoover 1963 letter which refers to Bush of CIA). On one occasion, he [Hayes] claims to have put a gun into Bush's mouth in order to get him to pay up. [CN: Bush reportedly leaked in his pants at that point.] While serving in Vietnam in covert ops, Hayes disobeyed orders and flew his jet fighter into Hanoi and took out a SAM missile storage depot. On a Mena, Arkansas arms flight to the Contras, he discovered coke [cocaine] stored in the belly of his plane and dumped it on the awaiting covert team at the airport while avoiding being shot down by them. [...to be continued...] Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom See also: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Scum Rises to the Top Date: 07 Jan 1997 07:24:22 -0800 > A MINORITY VIEW > > BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS > > Scum Rises to the Top > > Ask the average person his opinion of > politicians. You'll hear words like crooks, > hustlers and tyrants. The reason for this dim > assessment of politicians is that in all > societies, the scum, with few exceptions, > tends to rise to the top. Let's look at it. > > People want government to do all manner of > things, things that if done privately would > lead to condemnation and jail sentences. Some > want government to give money to farmers, poor > folk, college students, senior citizens and > businesses. There's no Santa Claus or tooth > fairy. The only way government can give money > to one person is to forcibly take it from > another person. If I privately used the same > method to raise money for a "deserving" > college student, homeless person or > businessman, I'd face theft charges. Others > among us want government to protect wild > wolves, bears and the Stephens kangaroo rat > even if it results in gross violations of > private property and loss of lives. > > The problem is that some people disagree with > having their earnings taken to satisfy someone > else's wishes. They don't want the Corps of > Engineers and the Fish and Wildlife Service > dictating to them what they can and cannot do > with their property to ensure a habitat for > the kangaroo rat. Force and threats must be > used. > > Here's the question: Could the average > American kill a person who resolutely refuses > to give up his earnings so Congress can give > it to farmers? Could you kill a person who > insists on using all of his property, even > though some wolves have set up a den on it? > You say, "What do you mean, Williams -- kill?" > Here's a scenario: The Corps of Engineers > commands me not to remove debris from a > drainage ditch on my property, placed there by > beavers building a dam, because the debris > creates a wetland. I remove it anyway. The > Corps of Engineers fines me. I refuse to pay > the unjust fine. The Corps of Engineers > threatens to seize my land. I say no, you > won't; it's my land, and I'll protect it. A > politician sends marshals to take it, and I > get killed defending it. > > Few Americans have the stomach or ruthlessness > to do what is necessary to make their > governmental wishes come true. But they are > willing to abandon constitutional principles > and rule of law so that those with the stomach > for ruthlessness have the tools of massive > central government power to achieve those > wishes. > > The path we're embarked upon, in the name of > good, is a familiar one. The unspeakable > horrors of Nazism, Stalinism and Maoism did > not begin in the '30s and '40s with the men > usually associated with those names. Those > horrors were simply the end result of a long > evolution of ideas leading to the > consolidation of power in central government > in the name of "social justice." It was decent > but misguided Germans, who would have cringed > at the thought of extermination and genocide, > who built the Trojan Horse for Hitler to take > over. > > We Americans promote disrespect for our > Constitution, rule of law and private property > in our pursuit of "social justice." But the > scum that rises to the top has an agenda of > command and control that's leading toward > totalitarianism. And, incidentally, it's no > coincidence that most of those at the top are > lawyers -- people with a special, seemingly > tutored, contempt for our Constitution and > rule of law. > > ------------------- > > Walter Williams, Ph.D., is a libertarian > columnist, frequent guest-host for Rush > Limbaugh, and Professor of Economics at George > Mason University. And for those blinded by > color, he's a handsome black man, too. > - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Re: piml] 2 Deputies Shot in Riverside/Difficult question Date: 07 Jan 1997 08:54:33 -0800 Barbara, On a minor point, >>>>>>> [...] DV *and* an M1 Garand [...] -- [...] " . . . but a World War II-vintage M-1 military carbine . . . [...] -- <<<<<<< An M1 Garand is a 30.06, and M1 carbine is a 308. Granted, both are rifles, and the differences minor. We _must not_ fall into the same old line of reasoning here. When the 'crap' hits the fan, as surely it will, the pro freedom forces must bear-up and severely rebuke the forces that shall be martialled against us. No one should be allowed to pass off the blame for an act, and tools or their owners _must not_ be allowed to be stigmatized as detestable or loathsome. We must _fight back_ with ever more ferocity than we are attacked with, and not show any quarter. What's past is past, the future depends upon the strengths we exhibit today. The 'new paradigm' here, must be employed full time. And that new paradigm is to completely speak of all items that can be used as arms, as simply 'tools' - and nothing else. Far to often in the past, we pro freedom forces allowed the order of battle to be described for us. Now it is time for us to take the lead and define the limits of the actions that can be taken and the definitions of the warfare. Take a page from the socialist/facist war manual, and use it against them effectively: Redefine everything to suit _our_ needs, and don't allow _them_ to redescribe. If they say gun, you say "No, tool!" Repetition and adamant insistence is very important here, and the plan must be followed 'religiously' in order for it to succeed. Everyone must read from the same script. Remember: The item is a tool - not simply a gun. The act was done by person, using a tool. Any tool can be deadly, if used or employed irresponsibly. Political correctness _is_ a two way street, if you are perceptive enough to know where distinctions lie. We now have projectile tools. Under that heading we can easily place staplers, nailers, sprayers, etc. By the very instance of redefinition, we can achieve non-stigamatization. Remember - the word is _tools_. Ed MIME-Version: 1.0 X-bmw: Black Marble Wombat Version 5.1 Galstar Secure Hack Hi: It's terrible, but I have to wonder at the PC neatness of it all: DV *and* an M1 Garand, as well as a bullet penetrating a vest? I don't know what to make of this yet. Showed this to a cyberfriend, who said it's gotten to such a point she doesn't know what to believe any more. I can sympathize with that, but also feel that the question needs to be raised. Perhaps it was coincidence -- I really want to believe that. One has to ask difficult questions, though, because, without answers one way or another to such questions, there wouldn't be justice for these 2 deputies, their families and friends. Flame me if you want, but I just had to bring it up. Barb Beier ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- TO: (unknown), INTERNET:EPLURIB@MEGALINX.NET DATE: 1/6/97 8:27 PM RE: 2 Riverside Deputies Die L.A. TIMES Monday, January 6, 1997 2 Riverside Deputies Die in Apparent Ambush Crime: Victims were gunned down as they responded to domestic violence call in remote desert area. Suspect arrested hours later. By JEFF LEEDS, NORA ZAMICHOW, Times Staff Writers WHITEWATER, Calif.--Two Riverside County sheriff's deputies were shot to death early Sunday morning when they responded to a report of domestic violence at a mobile home in this isolated desert community and walked into an apparent ambush. Deputies James Lehmann Jr., 40, of Apple Valley and Michael P. Haugen, 33, of San Jacinto were gunned down shortly after 3 a.m. as they left their patrol cars outside a trailer home in the remote Whitewater area, between Cabazon and Palm Springs. The two deputies, wearing bulletproof vests and walking in the dark of early morning, were struck by shots fired from about 50 yards away and died at the scene, said Riverside County Sheriff Larry Smith. One officer was killed by a shot to the head, the other by a bullet that penetrated the side of his protective gear. About 7:30 a.m. Sunday, the alleged gunman, Timothy Russell, 36, was arrested a quarter of a mile from the home and booked for investigation of murder. Russell was unarmed, but a World War II-vintage M-1 military carbine was later discovered in the isolated neighborhood where mobile homes sit amid the rocks, scrub and chaparral just north of Interstate 10, about 70 miles east of Los Angeles. For the two slain deputies, the morning had begun early, with a 3 a.m. call for help. At the time of the incident, Russell's wife, his sister and five children were inside Russell's mobile home in the 13000 block of Chaparral Road. Fearing her husband's temper, Russell's wife gathered several children and fled to a neighbor's house, where she called the Sheriff's Department. Her name was not released because she is considered a victim of domestic violence. She told the dispatcher that her husband had hit her and that she believed he might have been under the influence of methamphetamine. The wife warned the dispatcher that her husband had a rifle stashed in his car and said he had military training that equipped him to use it, said Sgt. Mark Lohman, a Sheriff's Department spokesman. Russell was arrested seven years ago on domestic violence charges but not convicted, Smith said. Neighbors reported that arguments were frequently heard in Russell's home and that the couple had split up several times during the two years that they lived in the mobile home surrounded by chain-link fence. But each fight was smoothed over when Russell gave roses to his wife, one neighbor said. Maria Pearce, a 58-year-old neighbor, recalled seeing several fights between Russell and his wife. "The screaming you could hear over everything." In the weeks before Sunday's incident, neighbor Viola Foxwell, 78, said she spoke several times with Russell's wife, who was distraught, saying her husband had threatened to kill her. In these conversations, Foxwell said she counseled the younger woman to get a job and leave her husband. The afternoon before the shooting, Foxwell came across Russell's wife crying in a dusty field between houses. The weeping woman, Foxwell recalled, told her, "I can't take it anymore. I'm desperate." Russell, who told acquaintances that he worked as a dental lab technician, often used a chain saw to craft sculpture in his yard. His favorite piece was a series of crows that he had lined up against his wall. With dawn still hours away, Haugen and Lehmann arrived at the mobile home at the same time, but in separate cars. The two officers radioed to the sheriff's dispatcher that they had reached the scene and were preparing to check it out. Both Haugen and Lehmann had emerged from their cars when they were gunned down. It was not clear whether the shots were fired from inside or outside the mobile home. "We do believe he [Russell] was waiting for them to arrive," Lohman said. "I don't know what his intent was, but he shot them when they got out of their cars." A few minutes after the shooting, several other deputies arrived on the scene. One, a sergeant, saw the men lying on the ground and ran toward them. Shots again rang out as the sergeant tried to check on his fallen comrades. After determining that the men were dead, the sergeant backed away and called for more help. As officers from throughout the area responded to the call, the Sheriff's Department deployed its Emergency Services Team, a SWAT unit. Several neighbors were evacuated from homes, and law enforcement sharpshooters blasted out street lights in an effort to lessen the likelihood of more bloodshed. "At that point, we reasonably felt the suspect was still inside the location," Lohman said. About 5 a.m., with the tactical officers in place around the home, deputies told Russell's sister and the children still inside the mobile home to come out. Ninety minutes later, several deputies saw a man, later identified as Russell, walking toward them, Smith said. But when the deputies--whose view was obscured by rain and darkness--yelled for Russell to drop his weapon, he initially bolted but finally lay on the ground, surrendering unarmed, Smith said. In nearby Banning, where the deputies were based, news of the shooting devastated law enforcement authorities. Lehmann and Haugen had been assigned to the Banning substation less than a year ago. Lehmann leaves behind a wife, Valerie, and two children, Christopher and Ashley. Lehmann became a deputy in 1993 after working as a state park ranger for four years in the Lake Elsinore area. Haugen became a deputy in October 1991, after having worked as an officer in Hermosa Beach. In Riverside, he had been assigned to the Robert Presley Detention Center and provided security at Riverside General Hospital, Smith said. He leaves his wife, Elizabeth, and two children, Stephen, 9, and Catherine, 16 months. Haugen's co-workers described him as energetic, outgoing and devoted to his family. "He had all the best qualities--empathy for others foremost among them," said his commander, Capt. Stanley Sniff. "Even though he had been here a relatively short time, he was well-known in the community because of his willingness to help out." Before the shooting Sunday morning, Susan Ladd, a Banning police officer, had chatted with Haugen, spotting a pen shaped like a Dalmation in his pocket. The pen, Haugen told her proudly, was a gift from his son. "It might not be regulation, but my son gave it to me and I'm going to use it always," she recalled Haugen telling her. When Ladd was later summoned to the crime scene, she saw her fallen friend, the pen still in his pocket. "Even though I'm trained as a sniper, I went into my car and cried--all I could think about was the kid who gave him the pen," Ladd said. Russell's stunned neighbors grieved for the slain deputies. Steve Essex, 48, stood teary-eyed outside the yellow police tape, hours after the bodies were removed. "Those poor police officers," he said, "their families, their families." The last death suffered by the Riverside County Sheriff's Department occurred on Mother's Day 1993, when Deputy Kent Hintergardt was killed responding to a domestic violence report. Russell is being held in the Indio jail. Deputies decided not to take him to Riverside County Jail where both the slain deputies had once worked, law enforcement sources said. Times staff writers Abigail Goldman and Dan Weikel contributed to this story, as did correspondent Diana Marcum. Copyright Los Angeles Times -- =========================================================== Presented for education and research purposes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pengar Enterprises, Inc. and Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: piml] 2 Deputies Shot in Riverside/Difficult question Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:40:20 -0700 At 08:54 AM 1/7/97 -0800, you wrote: > Barbara, > > On a minor point, > > >>>>>>> > [...] > DV *and* an M1 Garand > [...] > > -- > [...] > " . . . but a World War II-vintage M-1 military carbine . . . > [...] > -- > <<<<<<< > > An M1 Garand is a 30.06, and M1 carbine is a 308. > Granted, both are rifles, and the differences minor. Hi All I am not sure who is quoting who and who said that an M1 Carbine is a .308 but an M1 Carbine is *not* a .308 . It is a .30 Carbine (more like a .357). It doesn't matter that much in the big scheme of things but we need to be 100% accurate when describing things in the news... Chad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Re: Scum Rises to the Top Date: 07 Jan 1997 09:31:18 -0800 Monte, >>>>>>> [...] A MINORITY VIEW > > BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS > > Scum Rises to the Top [...] <<<<<<< Excellent piece! Hey, BTW, I was perusing my American Heritage Dictionary (V4.0), and came across the perfect word to provide a synopsis of that piece: kakistocracy - Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens. Kind of describes the current administration - to a tee, eh? Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: (fwd) *THIS* is how Dornan foes stole the election (fwd) Date: 07 Jan 1997 13:16:03 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Newgroups: alt.conspiracy, alt.politics.reform, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.politics.perot, ca.general, alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.nationalism.white Here's a list of the major techniques used by supporters of Democrat Loretta Brixey-Sanchez to literally steal last November's election. BTW, I didn't include the repeated and systematic tearing-down of Dornan campaign signs by Sanchez's wealthy husband, Steven Brixey III, for which he was actually arrested during the campaign. (Although newspaper reports of the incident described him as admitting to the crime at the time of his arrest, and quoted his wife as saying he did it due to anger at the Dornan campaign [what campaign? -- JB], he's *now* pleading innocent. ("Oh, yeah, remember when I admitted I did it? I forgot -- I really didn't.") In fact, his court hearing, which was scheduled for this coming week, was recently postponed, apparently in an effort not to coincide with his wife's upcoming swearing-in as a member of the U.S. Congress. Similarly not included in the list below is the incident in which, less than a week after the above-mentioned arrest of the Democrat candidate's husband Stephen Brixey III, two other men were arrested for stealing Dornan campaign posters. The information below was distilled from a 1/5/97 report in The Orange County Register newspaper by journalist Jean O. Pasco. 1. "NONCITIZEN VOTING: Dornan has protested that he may be the first member of Congress to lose his seat because noncitizens voted. [He likely won't be the last! -- JB] He complained that illegal immigrants were encouraged to register ilegally by Hermandad Mexicana Nacional, an immigrant-rights [i.e. "illegal-alien rights" -- JB] group based in Santa Ana, which backed Sanchez . . . "In an unrelated development, the INS terminated the contract of a national company that hired Hermandad to offer local on-site citizenship testing ["Local on-site citizenship testing"? Pretty soon that'll mean administering the U.S. citizenship test in Mexico City, I suppose! -- JB]; the group made arrangements to continue its testing services through another INS-approved national contractor." [IOW, the original sleazy, corrupt U.S.-taxpayer-paid outfit which hired this other sleazy, corrupt U.S.-taxpayer-paid outfit (Hermandad) was fired; Hermandad was then free to look for another U.S.-subsidized sugar daddy -- and successfully did so, immediately. -- JB] 2. "PHANTOM VOTING: Dornan's attorney's allege that as many as 1,985 votes counted in the election can't be traced to signatures on required precinct sign-in sheets. They also allege that those votes weren't entered as part of the final tally on a computer tape of votes cast in the elction." 3. "PEOPLE REGISTERED AT BUSINESS ADDRESSES: Dornan provided a list of 121 people registered at addresses identified as businesses through the computerized Donnelly Directory." 4. "MULTIPLE REGISTRATION AT THE SAME ADDRESS" 5. "FAILING TO IDENTIFY REGISTRATION HELP: [I prefer to put that term "help" in quotation marks, if you get my drift. -- JB] State law requires anyone assisting someone in filling out a voter registration affidavit to state his or her name, address and phone number and to sign the affidavit with the registrant. Several affidavits from voters regstered by Hermandad workers show that the forms were filled out in handwriting other than the voters', but the assistance identification boxes were blank." 6. "DOUBLE VOTING: Dornan provided a list of 167 voters identified on a computer tape as having voted twice or three times in the election." 7. "IMPROPER ABSENTEE VOTERS: About 200 hundred absentee ballots were dropped off at polling places for voters who couldn't deliver them personally. State law requires that only immediate family members -- sons, daughters, siblings, parents or grandparents -- may drop off absentee ballots. Whoever drops off a ballot is required to sign on the outside of the ballot envelope. "During the recount, Dornan volunteers discovered ballots that were accepted from non-immediate family members and friends, including in-laws, uncles and cousins. Some envelopes were dropped off and signed for with no relationship listed." 8. "BALLOTT PUNCHING: Dornan provided a sworn statement from a waiter at the White House restaurant in Anaheim who said he overheard Sanchez two days before the election bragging to dinner companions that she had been asked by a Spanish-speaking voter to help punch his sample ballot. Waiter Lance Powers said he observed Sanchez jovially telling her dinner companions that she took the ballot and said, 'Who do you want for Congress? Sanchez or Sanchez?' and then punched the ballot for the voter. "Sanchez denied punching anyone else's ballot." -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: (fwd) Editorial: Why it matters (fwd) Date: 07 Jan 1997 13:16:42 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Newgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater The New Republic January 20, 1997 TRB: WHY IT MATTERS by Michael Kelly For several years now, those who have made it their labor, or their labor of love, to defend the Clintons and the Clinton White House against accusations of ethical and legal misconduct have insisted the various matters at hand were individually unimportant and collectively incoherent: Whitewater, Travelgate, the FBI files, etc., were small and disconnected parts that combined to form nothing. Critics maintained that these things did amount to something definite and significant: they were indications that the president and the advisers closest to him had a predilection for corrupt practices and the abuse of power. This predilection, critics suggested, was rooted in the crony-centered practices of the Arkansas statehouse and in the politics of total-war waged by the Clintonites. In this context, Travelgate mattered not so much in itself but for what it said about the new people in the White House: in this case, that they were willing to use the power of the state to destroy the careers and imperil the liberties of innocent people to benefit a crony of the president. So too, the decision to fire the White House usher (because he had spoken on the telephone to former First Lady Barbara Bush) and to fire the aged White House telephone operators (because those jobs could be filled by partisans). So too, in its revelatory nature, Whitewater and Hillary Rodham Clinton's commodity deals, which exposed the promiscuous nature of the intercourse between those who had money and those who had power in Arkansas. So too, the White House's improper collection of the FBI files of some 900 Republicans. So too, the charges (by the non-ideological Center for Public Integrity) that companies that gave money to Clinton's 1992 campaign were rewarded with assistance from Ron Brown's Commerce Department in striking immensely lucrative foreign trade deals. And so too, the pattern of White House officials obstructing--through the employment of faulty memories and other, more perjurious, means--the congressional inquiries into all of this. These things mattered because they were portents. And what they portended is now at hand. President Clinton took office promising to run the most ethical White House in history. It became impossible, early on, to pretend this was so, as the Clinton White House and the Clinton-controlled Democratic National Committee continued the unethical money-grubbing practices of the Bush administration. But at least, Clinton's defenders could say, this White House was no worse than its Republican predecessors. Now, with its solicitation of the species of legalized bribery called soft money, the Clinton administration has set a level of corruption, greed and abuse (of privilege, certainly; of power, it appears increasingly likely) that is unprecedented. The revelations that have come out in recent weeks, in The New York Times and The Washington Post, read like a Michael Crichton novel: Last March, a Little Rock businessman named Charles Yah Lin Trie dropped by the president's legal defense trust with two manila envelopes overflowing with bundled checks and money orders totaling $460,000. Investigators for the trust found that almost all the $1,000 checks making up the sum had come from Asian Americans, most of whom were apparently tied to a Buddhist sect of which they were members, more than half of whom did not have the financial resources to make such contributions, and most of whom said they had never heard of Trie. The fund rejected $378,300 out of hand. But it went ahead and accepted a second tranche of $122,585, which it kept until threatened with public disclosure--and after Hillary Clinton and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes were informed of the taint in Trie's contributions. And Trie? On April 17, after Trie's initial, questionably crooked contribution was under investigation, the president named his generous pal to the government's Commission on United States-Pacific Trade and Investment Policy--signing an executive order increasing the number of commissioners in order to do so. Last spring, Clinton, Vice President Al Gore and senior advisers including Ickes and Chief of Staff Leon Panetta met with senior Democratic Party officials to plot their campaign-year fund-raising. They set themselves a goal of between $120 million and $125 million. To meet that goal, Clinton essentially rented out himself, the vice president and the White House. Donors of $10,000 to $25,000 met with Gore or were invited to 100-person dinners with the president. (One $20,000 donor photographed with Gore had been twice convicted and imprisoned on felony drug charges.) Givers of $50,000 to $100,000 got intimate little dinners with the president in hotels near the White House, or hour-long chats over coffee in the White House's Map Room. (One coffee club member, invited to meet Clinton in the White House last February at the request of Trie, was Wang Jun. Wang is the chairman of Poly Technologies Inc., a major international arms dealer which U.S. intelligence officials say is owned and run by the Chinese army. At the time Wang met the president, investigators from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and the Customs Service were wrapping up a sting operation that caught Wang's company with at least $4 million in illegal semi-automatic weapons.) Really generous Friends of Bill--supporters who raised at least $700,000 and often gave at least another $100,000 personally--got trips on Air Force One, golf with the president, presidentially guided tours of the White House and, the plum, a night in the Lincoln Bedroom. The president and his men set out to tap a previously unexploited source, wealthy Asian Americans. To this end, they turned to John Huang, a former trade official in Ron Brown's Commerce Department who was made vice chairman of finance at the DNC. Huang raised $3.4 million from Asian Americans and Asian corporations. Much of what he raised was, unquestionably, blatantly illegal; so far, the DNC has returned $1.2 million of the Huang money. Among Huang's greatest hits: a fund-raiser at a Buddhist temple where Al Gore raised $140,000 among the mendicants; $250,000 in illegal donations from Pauline Kanchanalak, a citizen of Thailand who represents a mammoth Thai conglomerate called the Charoen Porkaphand Group, and whose twenty-six visits to the White House included a coffee session last June between the president and executives of Charoen Porkaphand; an illegal $250,000 contribution from a South Korean corporation; and a highly dubious $450,000 contribution from an Indonesian couple possessed of modest means and ties to Indonesian multi-millionaire James Riady. All of the DNC fund-raising programs were reviewed weekly by senior White House officials, including Ickes and White House political director Douglas Sosnik. At what point will the president's partisans admit there might be a there here? JONATHAN CHAIT -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Scum Rises to the Top (fwd) Date: 07 Jan 1997 13:18:51 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- MY MAN! SIGN HIM UP- and tell him to give me a call when the *marshals* come to take his *wetland.* Mike Kemp > A MINORITY VIEW > > BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS > > Scum Rises to the Top > > Ask the average person his opinion of > politicians. You'll hear words like crooks, > hustlers and tyrants. The reason for this dim > assessment of politicians is that in all > societies, the scum, with few exceptions, > tends to rise to the top. Let's look at it. > > People want government to do all manner of > things, things that if done privately would > lead to condemnation and jail sentences. Some > want government to give money to farmers, poor > folk, college students, senior citizens and > businesses. There's no Santa Claus or tooth > fairy. The only way government can give money > to one person is to forcibly take it from > another person. If I privately used the same > method to raise money for a "deserving" > college student, homeless person or > businessman, I'd face theft charges. Others > among us want government to protect wild > wolves, bears and the Stephens kangaroo rat > even if it results in gross violations of > private property and loss of lives. > > The problem is that some people disagree with > having their earnings taken to satisfy someone > else's wishes. They don't want the Corps of > Engineers and the Fish and Wildlife Service > dictating to them what they can and cannot do > with their property to ensure a habitat for > the kangaroo rat. Force and threats must be > used. > > Here's the question: Could the average > American kill a person who resolutely refuses > to give up his earnings so Congress can give > it to farmers? Could you kill a person who > insists on using all of his property, even > though some wolves have set up a den on it? > You say, "What do you mean, Williams -- kill?" > Here's a scenario: The Corps of Engineers > commands me not to remove debris from a > drainage ditch on my property, placed there by > beavers building a dam, because the debris > creates a wetland. I remove it anyway. The > Corps of Engineers fines me. I refuse to pay > the unjust fine. The Corps of Engineers > threatens to seize my land. I say no, you > won't; it's my land, and I'll protect it. A > politician sends marshals to take it, and I > get killed defending it. > > Few Americans have the stomach or ruthlessness > to do what is necessary to make their > governmental wishes come true. But they are > willing to abandon constitutional principles > and rule of law so that those with the stomach > for ruthlessness have the tools of massive > central government power to achieve those > wishes. > > The path we're embarked upon, in the name of > good, is a familiar one. The unspeakable > horrors of Nazism, Stalinism and Maoism did > not begin in the '30s and '40s with the men > usually associated with those names. Those > horrors were simply the end result of a long > evolution of ideas leading to the > consolidation of power in central government > in the name of "social justice." It was decent > but misguided Germans, who would have cringed > at the thought of extermination and genocide, > who built the Trojan Horse for Hitler to take > over. > > We Americans promote disrespect for our > Constitution, rule of law and private property > in our pursuit of "social justice." But the > scum that rises to the top has an agenda of > command and control that's leading toward > totalitarianism. And, incidentally, it's no > coincidence that most of those at the top are > lawyers -- people with a special, seemingly > tutored, contempt for our Constitution and > rule of law. > > Walter Williams, Ph.D., is a libertarian > columnist, frequent guest-host for Rush > Limbaugh, and Professor of Economics at George > Mason University. And for those blinded by > color, he's a handsome black man, too. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harry Barnett Subject: Re: High-tech tracking by police raises legal outcry (fwd) Date: 07 Jan 1997 11:38:02 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, E. J. Totty wrote: > Just as a matter of interest, Brad, did the artical mention any > frequencies used? > Might just as well know, and carry a scanner around to foil any > future possibilities. No frequencies involved. Strictly passive devices at both ends. ;-) ----- Harry Barnett ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: The New Republic TRB editorial Date: 07 Jan 1997 15:12:48 -0500 Yeah, when will the President's supporters admit that there is some there there? I'm a long-time subscriber to TNR, since 1978 or so. They can be a fascinating rag, but they can also annoy the heck out of you with Democrat partisan whining, etc. These guys are *solidly* centrist Democrat. This editorial is doubly damming, as it is a call from centrist Democrats to examine *their man* in detail. Its worth 30 or 40 conservative diatribes on the subject, in that it indicates that serious Clinton and DNC investigation may be about to go mainstream. (This is just my interpretation, provided to those who might not be familiar with The New Republic.) ciao, jcurtis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BludyRed@aol.com Subject: Scum Rises to the Top Date: 07 Jan 1997 20:33:02 -0500 Liberty or Death posts: >>A MINORITY VIEW BY WALTER E. WILLIAMS Scum Rises to the Top<< Great piece!! May I add an appropriate quote from Judge Robert H. Bork, in his book "Slouching towards Gomorrah" "Modern liberalism is fundamentally at odds with democratic government because it demands results that ordinary people would not freely choose. Liberals must govern therefore, through institutions that are largely insulated from the popular will." Regards, Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: Re: High-tech tracking by police raises legal outcry (fwd) Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:00:35 -0500 (EST) On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, E. J. Totty wrote: > Brad, > > >>>>>>> > [...] > > Just as a matter of interest, Brad, did the artical mention any > frequencies used? > Might just as well know, and carry a scanner around to foil any > future possibilities. > > > Ed > > > I've heard speculation they operate in the 900MHz range, but I don't really know. Brad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Lawson" Subject: Re: High-tech tracking by police raises legal outcry (fwd) Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:30:06 -0500 I think you guys are chasing spooks, but as I remember from some HAM interference received in the DFW area during the system test period Brad is right..... as I remember their allocation is something like 902 to 912 MHz...... but a scanner won't do you any good. The output is pulsed digital data, and was targeted and sold to consumers also, so no telling where it will show up. This is not a military or NSA project, it is commercial. And since it has not continued to be widely promoted, I think the program was somewhat of a commercial bust. It was cheaper to buy good insurance. None of the above is specific, because I'm not gonna waste my time on research, but you can go to the FCC page and probably find the exact frequency allocations. Ed Lawson, KD5EZ On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:00:35 -0500 (EST), Brad Dolan wrote: > > >On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, E. J. Totty wrote: > >> Brad, >> >> >>>>>>> >> [...] > >> >> Just as a matter of interest, Brad, did the artical mention any >> frequencies used? >> Might just as well know, and carry a scanner around to foil any >> future possibilities. >> >> >> Ed >> >> >> > >I've heard speculation they operate in the 900MHz range, but I don't >really know. > >Brad > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gdoty@earthlink.net (Greg Doty) Subject: Re: piml] 2 Deputies Shot in Riverside/Difficult question Date: 07 Jan 1997 22:30:48 -0800 (PST) Intersting point brought up below. " We now have projectile tools. Under that heading we can easily place staplers, nailers, sprayers, etc." Put 100 psi behind a good stapler and it will drive a 2-1/2 inch staple through body armor. Come to think of it, so will a common, ordinary bow with 80 lb pull. Greg > Barbara, > > On a minor point, > > >>>>>>> > [...] > DV *and* an M1 Garand > [...] > > -- > [...] > " . . . but a World War II-vintage M-1 military carbine . . . > [...] > -- > <<<<<<< > > An M1 Garand is a 30.06, and M1 carbine is a 308. > Granted, both are rifles, and the differences minor. > > We _must not_ fall into the same old line of reasoning here. When >the 'crap' hits the fan, as surely it will, the pro freedom forces must >bear-up and severely rebuke the forces that shall be martialled against us. > > No one should be allowed to pass off the blame for an act, and >tools or their owners _must not_ be allowed to be stigmatized as detestable >or loathsome. > > We must _fight back_ with ever more ferocity than we are attacked >with, and not show any quarter. What's past is past, the future depends >upon the strengths we exhibit today. > > The 'new paradigm' here, must be employed full time. And that new >paradigm is to completely speak of all items that can be used as arms, as >simply 'tools' - and nothing else. > > Far to often in the past, we pro freedom forces allowed the order >of battle to be described for us. Now it is time for us to take the lead >and define the limits of the actions that can be taken and the definitions >of the warfare. > > Take a page from the socialist/facist war manual, and use it >against them effectively: > > Redefine everything to suit _our_ needs, and don't allow _them_ to >redescribe. If they say gun, you say "No, tool!" > Repetition and adamant insistence is very important here, and the >plan must be followed 'religiously' in order for it to succeed. > Everyone must read from the same script. > > Remember: The item is a tool - not simply a gun. > The act was done by person, using a tool. > Any tool can be deadly, if used or employed irresponsibly. > > Political correctness _is_ a two way street, if you are perceptive >enough to know where distinctions lie. We now have projectile tools. Under >that heading we can easily place staplers, nailers, sprayers, etc. > > > By the very instance of redefinition, we can achieve >non-stigamatization. > > Remember - the word is _tools_. > >Ed >-------------------------------original e-mail below----------------------- >Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:35:08 -0500 (EST) >From: barbara beier >To: "Undisclosed.recipients":;@mars.galstar.com >Subject: piml] 2 Deputies Shot in Riverside/Difficult question >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-bmw: Black Marble Wombat Version 5.1 Galstar Secure Hack > >Hi: > >It's terrible, but I have to wonder at the PC neatness of it all: >DV *and* an M1 Garand, as well as a bullet penetrating a vest? >I don't know what to make of this yet. Showed this to a cyberfriend, >who said it's gotten to such a point she doesn't know what to believe >any more. I can sympathize with that, but also feel that the question >needs to be raised. Perhaps it was coincidence -- I really want to >believe that. One has to ask difficult questions, though, because, without >answers one way or another to such questions, there wouldn't be justice >for these 2 deputies, their families and friends. Flame me if you want, >but I just had to bring it up. > >Barb Beier > > >---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > >From: "J.J. & Helen Johnson", INTERNET:eplurib@megalinx.net >TO: (unknown), INTERNET:EPLURIB@MEGALINX.NET >DATE: 1/6/97 8:27 PM > >RE: 2 Riverside Deputies Die > > > >L.A. TIMES >Monday, January 6, 1997 > >2 Riverside Deputies Die in Apparent Ambush Crime: >Victims were gunned down as they responded to >domestic violence call in remote desert area. >Suspect arrested hours later. > >By JEFF LEEDS, NORA ZAMICHOW, Times Staff Writers > > WHITEWATER, Calif.--Two Riverside County sheriff's >deputies were shot to death early Sunday morning when they >responded to a report of domestic violence at a mobile home in >this isolated desert community and walked into an apparent >ambush. > Deputies James Lehmann Jr., 40, of Apple Valley and Michael >P. Haugen, 33, of San Jacinto were gunned down shortly after 3 >a.m. as they left their patrol cars outside a trailer home in the >remote Whitewater area, between Cabazon and Palm Springs. > The two deputies, wearing bulletproof vests and walking in >the dark of early morning, were struck by shots fired from about >50 yards away and died at the scene, said Riverside County Sheriff >Larry Smith. One officer was killed by a shot to the head, the >other by a bullet that penetrated the side of his protective gear. > About 7:30 a.m. Sunday, the alleged gunman, Timothy Russell, >36, was arrested a quarter of a mile from the home and booked for >investigation of murder. Russell was unarmed, but a World War >II-vintage M-1 military carbine was later discovered in the isolated >neighborhood where mobile homes sit amid the rocks, scrub and >chaparral just north of Interstate 10, about 70 miles east of Los >Angeles. > For the two slain deputies, the morning had begun early, with a >3 a.m. call for help. At the time of the incident, Russell's wife, his >sister and five children were inside Russell's mobile home in the >13000 block of Chaparral Road. Fearing her husband's temper, >Russell's wife gathered several children and fled to a neighbor's >house, where she called the Sheriff's Department. Her name was >not released because she is considered a victim of domestic >violence. > She told the dispatcher that her husband had hit her and that >she believed he might have been under the influence of >methamphetamine. The wife warned the dispatcher that her >husband had a rifle stashed in his car and said he had military >training that equipped him to use it, said Sgt. Mark Lohman, a >Sheriff's Department spokesman. > Russell was arrested seven years ago on domestic violence >charges but not convicted, Smith said. Neighbors reported that >arguments were frequently heard in Russell's home and that the >couple had split up several times during the two years that they >lived in the mobile home surrounded by chain-link fence. But each >fight was smoothed over when Russell gave roses to his wife, one >neighbor said. > Maria Pearce, a 58-year-old neighbor, recalled seeing several >fights between Russell and his wife. "The screaming you could >hear over everything." > In the weeks before Sunday's incident, neighbor Viola Foxwell, >78, said she spoke several times with Russell's wife, who was >distraught, saying her husband had threatened to kill her. > In these conversations, Foxwell said she counseled the >younger woman to get a job and leave her husband. The afternoon >before the shooting, Foxwell came across Russell's wife crying in >a dusty field between houses. > The weeping woman, Foxwell recalled, told her, "I can't take it >anymore. I'm desperate." > Russell, who told acquaintances that he worked as a dental lab >technician, often used a chain saw to craft sculpture in his yard. >His favorite piece was a series of crows that he had lined up >against his wall. > With dawn still hours away, Haugen and Lehmann arrived at >the mobile home at the same time, but in separate cars. The two >officers radioed to the sheriff's dispatcher that they had reached >the scene and were preparing to check it out. > Both Haugen and Lehmann had emerged from their cars when >they were gunned down. It was not clear whether the shots were >fired from inside or outside the mobile home. > "We do believe he [Russell] was waiting for them to arrive," >Lohman said. "I don't know what his intent was, but he shot them >when they got out of their cars." > A few minutes after the shooting, several other deputies arrived >on the scene. One, a sergeant, saw the men lying on the ground >and ran toward them. > Shots again rang out as the sergeant tried to check on his fallen >comrades. After determining that the men were dead, the sergeant >backed away and called for more help. > As officers from throughout the area responded to the call, the >Sheriff's Department deployed its Emergency Services Team, a >SWAT unit. Several neighbors were evacuated from homes, and >law enforcement sharpshooters blasted out street lights in an effort >to lessen the likelihood of more bloodshed. > "At that point, we reasonably felt the suspect was still inside >the location," Lohman said. > About 5 a.m., with the tactical officers in place around the >home, deputies told Russell's sister and the children still inside the >mobile home to come out. > Ninety minutes later, several deputies saw a man, later >identified as Russell, walking toward them, Smith said. But when >the deputies--whose view was obscured by rain and >darkness--yelled for Russell to drop his weapon, he initially bolted >but finally lay on the ground, surrendering unarmed, Smith said. > In nearby Banning, where the deputies were based, news of >the shooting devastated law enforcement authorities. Lehmann and >Haugen had been assigned to the Banning substation less than a >year ago. > Lehmann leaves behind a wife, Valerie, and two children, >Christopher and Ashley. Lehmann became a deputy in 1993 after >working as a state park ranger for four years in the Lake Elsinore >area. > Haugen became a deputy in October 1991, after having worked >as an officer in Hermosa Beach. In Riverside, he had been >assigned to the Robert Presley Detention Center and provided >security at Riverside General Hospital, Smith said. He leaves his >wife, Elizabeth, and two children, Stephen, 9, and Catherine, 16 >months. > Haugen's co-workers described him as energetic, outgoing and >devoted to his family. > "He had all the best qualities--empathy for others foremost >among them," said his commander, Capt. Stanley Sniff. "Even >though he had been here a relatively short time, he was >well-known in the community because of his willingness to help >out." > Before the shooting Sunday morning, Susan Ladd, a Banning >police officer, had chatted with Haugen, spotting a pen shaped like >a Dalmation in his pocket. The pen, Haugen told her proudly, was >a gift from his son. "It might not be regulation, but my son gave it >to me and I'm going to use it always," she recalled Haugen telling >her. > When Ladd was later summoned to the crime scene, she saw >her fallen friend, the pen still in his pocket. "Even though I'm >trained as a sniper, I went into my car and cried--all I could think >about was the kid who gave him the pen," Ladd said. > Russell's stunned neighbors grieved for the slain deputies. > Steve Essex, 48, stood teary-eyed outside the yellow police >tape, hours after the bodies were removed. "Those poor police >officers," he said, "their families, their families." > The last death suffered by the Riverside County Sheriff's >Department occurred on Mother's Day 1993, when Deputy Kent >Hintergardt was killed responding to a domestic violence report. > Russell is being held in the Indio jail. Deputies decided not to >take him to Riverside County Jail where both the slain deputies had >once worked, law enforcement sources said. > Times staff writers Abigail Goldman and Dan Weikel >contributed to this story, as did correspondent Diana Marcum. > > > >Copyright Los Angeles Times >-- >=========================================================== >Presented for education and research purposes > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: High-tech tracking by police raises legal outcry (fwd) Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:48:10 -0500 What if: Digital cell phones are used. The black box just uses GPS for position and calls home periodically to dump a set of times/positions/duration-at-rest. This is pure speculation on my part. I've seen ads in SOF for companies offering this type of tracking (which is probably quite illegal outside of a bonafide police investigation). ciao, jcurtis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: First Lady gets grammy_Nomination (fwd) Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:49:36 -0600 (CST) Wednesday January 8 7:04 AM EST First Lady Gets Grammy Nomination NEW YORK (Reuter) - First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton received a Grammy nomination, and she didn't have to strap on a guitar and bellow songs about love and heartbreak. Mrs. Clinton was nominated in the category for best spoken word or non-musical album for the audio version of her best-selling book "It Takes a Village," Grammy organizers announced. A Grammy spokeswoman said it was the first time a first lady has received a nomination in the recording industry's top awards. "We are thrilled that the first lady has received the recognition she deserves for this wonderful audiobook," said a spokeswoman at Simon & Schuster Audioworks, which distributed the recording. Mrs. Clinton's Grammy nomination put her in the company of some well-known Hollywood names. Lauren Bacall, Martin Landau, Jack Lemmon and Gregory Peck were all nominated for their work on the Paul Werth book, "Harry S. Truman: A Journey to Independence." Also competing are Ed Asner, Ellen Burstyn, CCH Pounder and Alfre Woodard in "Grow Old Along With Me -- The Best Is Yet To Come." Radio humorist and storyteller Garrison Keilor's reading of Mark Twain's "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" and CBS newsman Charles Kuralt's narration of his own "Charles Kuralt's America" rounded out the list. The winner will be announced on Feb. 26 at the 39th annual Grammy Awards ceremony at New York' Madison Square Garden. _________________________________________________________________ Earlier Related Stories * First Lady Gets Grammy Nomination - Tue Jan 7 7:10 pm _________________________________________________________________ ________________________ ___________ Help _________________________________________________________________ Previous Story: Christopher: U.S. Payment to U.N. Top Priority Next Story: Supreme Court Hears Judge's Sex Assault Case _________________________________________________________________ [ Index | News | World | Biz | Tech | Politic | Sport | Scoreboard | Entertain | Health ] _________________________________________________________________ Reuters Limited Questions or Comments ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Christopher: US payment to UN top priority Date: 08 Jan 1997 09:50:22 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Wednesday January 8 7:04 AM EST Christopher: U.S. Payment to U.N. Top Priority UNITED NATIONS (Reuter) - Secretary of State Warren Christopher says payment of America's debt to the United Nations was "at the top" of the Clinton adminstration's agenda in 1997. Touching base with Kofi Annan, the 58-year old Ghanaian he helped get elected as U.N. secretary-general, Christopher assured him that "this issue is on the top of our agenda" according to State Department spokesman Nicholas Burns. Washington owes the United Nations more than $1 billion and diplomats said President Clinton would propose paying nearly the entire amount, although it is doubtful this would be approved by the Republican-dominated Congress. One reason for the visit, the first by Christopher since Annan, the former head of U.N. peacekeeping, was elected last month, was to prepare for Annan's trip to Washington. U.N. spokesman Fred Eckhard said only a "working date" for the visit, possibly for later this month had been set. But despite warm words exchanged between the two, the United States and Annan appear to have different approaches to the key issue of U.N. reform, the reason Washington says it blocked a second five-year term for Boutros Boutros-Ghali of Egypt, who left office on Dec. 31. For the United States reform means deep cuts in personnel while for Annan the emphasis is on restructuring the world body to make it more efficient and viable. Annan, according to Eckhard, would continue to reduce the size of the world body "but nothing like what some members of Congress have proposed." "The secretary-general has said that reform does not really mean reduction. Reform means building a consensus of what the organization is supposed to do once there is agreement and getting everyone to pay to achieve those objectives," he said. Consequently, Eckhard said Annan told Christopher that bloc politics dominated the United Nations and that "the United States will need to work more closely with others. Sometimes a good leader must also be a good follower." Christopher, according to Burns, told Annan that President Clinton would be making recommendations on U.N. arrears in the forthcoming U.S. budget, adding that this was "one of the most important issue that we are facing in our work." He said the United Nations "should be certainly reduced in size and its operations and personnel structures should be more efficient. If a reform effort was undertaken this would be received with great pleasure by the U.S. Congress, the American people and certainly the Clinton administration." On other issues, Annan also reminded Christopher that development assistance programs were an important function of the United Nations, costing $5 billion a year, and governmental support had been declining for such activities, Eckhard said. Annan, the seventh U.N. secretary-general has had vast administrative experience in his more than two decades in the United Nations. He won election last month with the help of the United States. Christopher, who will be replaced next month by the current U.N. ambassador, Madeleine Albright, arrived with Peter Tarnoff, the under secretary of state for political affairs, and Princeton Lyman, the acting assistant secretary of state for international organization, among other aides. _________________________________________________________________ Earlier Related Stories * Christopher to Meet Annan in New York - Tue Jan 7 7:09 am _________________________________________________________________ ________________________ ___________ Help _________________________________________________________________ Previous Story: Court Dismisses Immigration Suits Next Story: First Lady Gets Grammy Nomination _________________________________________________________________ [ Index | News | World | Biz | Tech | Politic | Sport | Scoreboard | Entertain | Health ] _________________________________________________________________ Reuters Limited Questions or Comments ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Sylvester Subject: Re: piml] 2 Deputies Shot in Riverside/Difficult question Date: 08 Jan 1997 12:16:05 -0600 At 10:30 PM 1/7/97 -0800, you wrote: >I >> >> An M1 Garand is a 30.06, and M1 carbine is a 308. >> Granted, both are rifles, and the differences minor. Nope, an M1 Carbine is .30 Carbine. A large pistol round really. Or at least somthing less an assault rifle caliber such as 5.56NATO (.223) or 7.62X39 , way less than a battle rifle caliber, like the 30-06 or .308. The .30 Carbine round, in FMJ (ball) especially, is known for overpenetration. >> Redefine everything to suit _our_ needs, and don't allow _them_ to >>redescribe. If they say gun, you say "No, tool!" >> Repetition and adamant insistence is very important here, and the >>plan must be followed 'religiously' in order for it to succeed. >> Everyone must read from the same script. >> >> Remember: The item is a tool - not simply a gun. >> The act was done by person, using a tool. >> Any tool can be deadly, if used or employed irresponsibly. Interesting that this particular "tool" turns up in a well published case at a time when the adminstration is blocking imports of same, that is M1-Carbines. The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution. ---Doug McKay" Joe Sylvester Don't Tread On Me ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: (fwd) Black-Robed Lawyers... Date: 08 Jan 1997 10:28:38 -0800 Black-Robed Lawyers vs. Everyone Else by Patricia Neill =A9 1997 SmuckWap Newsservice, Washington: The Supreme Court ruled today=20 that judges can do whatever the hell they want. In a landmark=20 case, Black-Robed Lawyers vs. Everyone Else, the justices handed=20 down their inestimable judgment that since lawyers in general and=20 judges in particular are such fine examples of humanity, not to=20 mention smart enough to get through law school, judges can do=20 whatever they please. "The Rule of Law has ended," proclaimed Supreme Court Justice=20 Arrogant B. Astard, "and the Rule of Judges begins!"=20 Turning their shiny black backs on the rest of America, the=20 justices decided to toss out two hundred years of Constitutional=20 law and indeed, to rid themselves completely of having to heed=20 the Constitution.=20 "The law is what we say it is," said Justice Whiney I. Diot. "It has been this way for some time now, but with Black-Robed=20 Lawyers vs. Everyone Else, we are coming out of our judicial=20 closet. No more arguments will be allowed from anyone, and we=20 don't want to hear any more of your complaining about your rights.=20 In fact, any mention of so-called rights will guarantee you=20 100 years, hard labor." Justice K. Rupt Assin concurred in his opinion that "judicial=20 oligarchy has now fully come into its place in American history=20 and will be fully enforced by an iron rule of law, and remember,=20 law is whatever we say it is."=20 The Center for People Who Want to Leave This Country Because It=20 Is Beginning to Look Too Much Like Nazi Germany analyzed the=20 justices' decision.=20 "Judges now legally can put anyone in prison for any reason they want, for as long as they want," states the analysis. "Judges=20 can also put jurors in prison for 'obstructing justice' and for=20 anything else, including not handing the judge whatever money=20 they may have on them at the time. Jurors who don't behave exactly=20 as the judge desired have been persecuted in the past, but "now=20 they can receive prison terms much longer than their own lifespan=20 added to the lifespan(s) of the defendant(s) in any trial."=20 The report also mentioned the justices' decision that anyone who=20 says anything disagreeable in their courtroom can be immediately=20 arrested and jailed, their property confiscated, and their=20 spouses and children taken as "wards" of the court under the=20 justices own personal pleasure ... er... supervision. The concept of separation of powers was addressed in the Center's report on the decision.=20 "There is no separation of powers," it reads, "when not only all=20 the justices are lawyers, so are all Congressmen and the President,=20 his wife, his cabinet, the entire Department of Justice, most=20 lobbyists and almost everyone else in Washington, D.C." When questioned about what effect the decision would have on all Americans, the spokesman for the Center said, "I can't be certain.=20 I suspect that emigration rather than immigration will become a=20 major concern. Those Americans who are lawyers will be fine, for=20 the most part. No one will ever again show up for jury duty. But=20 if we thought we had an overcrowded prison problem before, we're=20 in for a *major* shock!" - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< =20 * Psalm 33 * =20 "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude=20 greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in =20 peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick=20 the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and=20 may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams=20 O- =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dick_Stephan@krinfo.com (Dick Stephan) Subject: Re: First Lady gets grammy_Nomination (fwd) Date: 08 Jan 1997 11:32:15 -0800 How gratifying. Peculiar, tho, in that the other nominees were selected for their PERFORMING/READING of the particular works. HRC apparently is being honored for her selection of ghostwriter. Its nice to be great and world's smartest woman. RJ ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: roc@xmission.com at Internet Wednesday January 8 7:04 AM EST First Lady Gets Grammy Nomination NEW YORK (Reuter) - First lady Hillary Rodham Clinton received a Grammy nomination, and she didn't have to strap on a guitar and bellow songs about love and heartbreak. Mrs. Clinton was nominated in the category for best spoken word or non-musical album for the audio version of her best-selling book "It Takes a Village," Grammy organizers announced. A Grammy spokeswoman said it was the first time a first lady has received a nomination in the recording industry's top awards. "We are thrilled that the first lady has received the recognition she deserves for this wonderful audiobook," said a spokeswoman at Simon & Schuster Audioworks, which distributed the recording. Mrs. Clinton's Grammy nomination put her in the company of some well-known Hollywood names. Lauren Bacall, Martin Landau, Jack Lemmon and Gregory Peck were all nominated for their work on the Paul Werth book, "Harry S. Truman: A Journey to Independence." Also competing are Ed Asner, Ellen Burstyn, CCH Pounder and Alfre Woodard in "Grow Old Along With Me -- The Best Is Yet To Come." Radio humorist and storyteller Garrison Keilor's reading of Mark Twain's "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" and CBS newsman Charles Kuralt's narration of his own "Charles Kuralt's America" rounded out the list. The winner will be announced on Feb. 26 at the 39th annual Grammy Awards ceremony at New York' Madison Square Garden. _________________________________________________________________ Earlier Related Stories * First Lady Gets Grammy Nomination - Tue Jan 7 7:10 pm _________________________________________________________________ ________________________ ___________ Help _________________________________________________________________ Previous Story: Christopher: U.S. Payment to U.N. Top Priority Next Story: Supreme Court Hears Judge's Sex Assault Case _________________________________________________________________ [ Index | News | World | Biz | Tech | Politic | Sport | Scoreboard | Entertain | Health ] _________________________________________________________________ Reuters Limited Questions or Comments ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joesylvester@texoma.net (Joe Sylvester) Subject: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. Date: 08 Jan 1997 14:38:41 -0600 Just heard on WBAP (Dallas) radio that a student in, I believe, Washington state, was suspended for taking a toy gun, the size of a quarter, to school. The gun was sized and intended to fit in the hand of a GI Joe doll. Political Correctness run completely amouk! -- The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution. ---Doug McKay" Joe Sylvester Don't Tread On Me ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Re: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:19:21 -0800 Joe Sylvester wrote: > > Just heard on WBAP (Dallas) radio that a student in, I believe, Washington > state, was suspended for taking a toy gun, the size of a quarter, to school. > The gun was sized and intended to fit in the hand of a GI Joe doll. > > Political Correctness run completely amouk! > And a related conclusion. The public education monopoly has set up a system that places our children in the charge of flaming idiots who are totally incapable of exercising good judgment. Instead, we have rule-bound bureaucrats mindlessly trying to teach children the art of responsible living. Put this one on the same outrage list as the 1st grader recently expelled for school for sexual harassment. Choice-vouchers anyone - to dismantle the public education monopoly? Skip. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. Date: 08 Jan 1997 19:43:05 -0800 Joe, GI Joe was arrested too, and will be tried in the first Virtual Court of the United States of America [sic]. Details available upon request. /s/ Paul Mitchell p.s. Can you spell S-T-A-R C-H-A-M-B-E-R? At 02:38 PM 1/8/97 -0600, you wrote: >Just heard on WBAP (Dallas) radio that a student in, I believe, Washington >state, was suspended for taking a toy gun, the size of a quarter, to school. >The gun was sized and intended to fit in the hand of a GI Joe doll. > >Political Correctness run completely amouk! > > >-- > The Second Amendment is the RESET button > of the United States Constitution. > ---Doug McKay" >Joe Sylvester >Don't Tread On Me ! > > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. Date: 08 Jan 1997 16:14:47 -0500 Anyone pulls that crap on my family, I'll spend $20k so my lawyer can beat up the town's lawyer. Hey, I need a hobby right? ciao, jcurtis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Holder Subject: Re: piml] 2 Deputies Shot in Riverside/Difficult question Date: 08 Jan 1997 13:33:47 -0800 At 10:40 AM 1/7/97 -0700, Chad wrote: >> An M1 Garand is a 30.06, and M1 carbine is a 308. >> Granted, both are rifles, and the differences minor. > > >Hi All > >I am not sure who is quoting who and who said that an M1 Carbine is a .308 >but an M1 Carbine is *not* a .308 . It is a .30 Carbine (more like a .357). > >It doesn't matter that much in the big scheme of things but we need to be >100% accurate when describing things in the news... Yes indeed. I don't know why the Powers That Was in WW2 called two different weapons the "M1" -- just to confuse us I guess. The M1 Garand is a large main battle rifle chambered for .30-06, designed to fire a 150-grain .308-inch diameter pointed bullet at around 2,900-fps. The M1 Carbine fires the ".30 Carbine" round. Bullet diameter is .308-inches, 110-grain bullet, velocity is around 1,950-fps. It is not a rifle round at all, but a round-nosed hand-gun cartridge. It is fairly powerful for a hand-gun round, but nowhere in the rifle power class. Nice, light, handy carbine. -- Ken L. Holder kholder@liberty.com Webmaster for L. Neil Smith's Webley Pages http://www.liberty.com/home/kholder/lneil.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fritz Sands Subject: RE: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. Date: 08 Jan 1997 14:27:28 -0800 >From today's Seattle Times... > >http://www.seattletimes.com/topstories/browse/html97/gunn_010897.html > >Jan. 8, 1997 > >Boy expelled from school for showing tiny toy gun > >by Dee Norton >Seattle Times staff reporter > >The Seattle School District's zero-tolerance weapons policy even extends to >that 11-inch-tall warrior, G.I. Joe. > >Just ask 10-year-old Jeffrey Parks who was expelled from John Rogers >Elementary School on Monday after he took the action figure's handgun to >school. The molded plastic pistol is about an inch long. > >"The district has a zero-tolerance policy on weapons, and it is mute on >size," said Dorothy Dubia, district spokeswoman, defending the action of >Rogers Principal Elaine Woo. > >Jeffrey, a fifth-grader, had inadvertently taken the tiny toy gun to school, >according to his father, Sid Parks of Seattle. The G.I. Joe doll, along with >accessories, was a Christmas gift from Jeffrey's grandmother. > >"Jeffrey had taken (the gun) to school by accident, and at the end of recess >he dug in his pocket to be sure he had all his lunch money," Parks said. > > > >". . . . Another boy saw it and wanted to know what it was. Jeffrey told him, >and the boy asked if it was real, and Jeffrey said, `Yeah, bang bang'. > >"The thing doesn't even have a trigger," said Parks, who noted that the toy >cannot fire and has no moving parts. > >Parks said his son did not point the toy at anyone or threaten other students >with it. > >But Dubia indicated that Woo and the district disagree with that version of >the incident. > >"I can't go into detail, but the manner in which it was displayed was a >mitigating factor," Dubia said yesterday. "It was displayed in a manner that >was not appropriate. This action was not taken precipitously." > >Woo checked with several district supervisors before expelling Jeffrey, Dubia >said. > >But Parks thinks the district has gone way too far in enforcing the policy. > >"I want this removed from his record," Parks said. "I have tried to talk with >people in the district, and they won't respond. I finally got through to our >area's board member (Ellen Roe), and she told me, `Where you would draw the >line - 1 inch, 2 inches, 3 inches, plastic or metal?' " > >Added Parks, "It is hard to believe educated people can do this. How do you >fight stupidity? Jeffrey is just a child. He has never been suspended >(before) and never had a fight. He has never been violent." > >A meeting was scheduled for 8 a.m. today at the North Seattle school to >discuss Jeffrey's expulsion. > > > > >Copyright © 1997 The Seattle Times Company > > > > >---------- >From: joesylvester@texoma.net[SMTP:joesylvester@texoma.net] >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 1997 12:38 PM >To: roc@xmission.com; noban@mainstream.net; right2arms@POBOX.COM >Subject: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. > >Just heard on WBAP (Dallas) radio that a student in, I believe, Washington >state, was suspended for taking a toy gun, the size of a quarter, to school. >The gun was sized and intended to fit in the hand of a GI Joe doll. > >Political Correctness run completely amouk! > > >-- > The Second Amendment is the RESET button > of the United States Constitution. > ---Doug McKay" >Joe Sylvester >Don't Tread On Me ! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pengar Enterprises, Inc. and Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: piml] 2 Deputies Shot in Riverside/Difficult question Date: 08 Jan 1997 15:42:32 -0700 At 01:33 PM 1/8/97 -0800, Mr Ken H said: >I don't know why the Powers That Was in WW2 called two different weapons >the "M1" -- just to confuse us I guess. Easy In the military, there is an M1 in almost every class of goods. So, battle rifle? Need an M1 there . Carbine? Need an M1 there? Buttwipes? Need an M1 mdoel there too. Gas cans? oops, need an M1 there too. And today there is an M1 battle tank as well. M1 Garand M1 Carbine are two different names in the military scheme of things. They look similar by accident. Chad ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Opening Day of 105th Congress (fwd) Date: 08 Jan 1997 16:53:42 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Capitol Hill Eagle Alert Eagle Forum Legislative Office, Washington, DC Phone: (202) 544-0353 January 7, 1996 Opening Day of Historic 105th Congress Gingrich Reelected Speaker of the House. Today, the 105th Congress was sworn in after reelecting the first Republican Speaker in more than 60 years. Democrats nominated and unanimously supported Minority Leader Richard Gephardt (D-MO). The GOP nominated Newt Gingrich, but several Members did not support his reelection. Five Republicans voted "present" - Frank Wolf (VA), Scott Klug (WI), Mark Neumann (WI), Connie Morella (MD), and John Hostettler (IN) - and four voted for other people - Tom Campbell (CA) and Mike Forbes (NY) for Rep. Jim Leach (IA), Linda Smith (WA) for ex-Rep. Bob Walker (PA), and Jim Leach (IA) for ex-Rep. Bob Michel. (The Constitution does not require the Speaker of the House to be a Member of Congress.) "Truth in Testimony" becomes Rule of the House. The House of Representatives passed a package of changes to the House Rules that included the "Truth in Testimony" provision supported by Eagle Forum. Thanks to the efforts of those who responded to our Alert, the House Leadership decided to include "Truth in Testimony" in the Rules Package. "Truth in Testimony" requires witnesses before Congressional Committees to disclose the amount of money their organizations receive in federal grants or contracts. This means that the next time Planned Parenthood comes to Capitol Hill to demand more taxpayer dollars for "family planning," Planned Parenthood's witnesses will have to disclose how much taxpayer funds Planned Parenthood has received in the past. Thanks again to all who helped make this simple yet important reform reality. New Senators Sworn In. Fifteen new Senators took their seats today nine Republicans and six Democrats. Mary Landrieu (D-LA), who defeated conservative Woody Jenkins, was sworn in as a Member of the Senate, despite the fact that Mr. Jenkins filed a petition with the Senate to have the election overturned on the basis of voter fraud. The Rules Committee, led by Sens. Warner (R-VA) and Ford (D-KY), is responsible for investigating the matter. It has hired two Independent Counsels -- one GOP and one Democrat -- to look into the evidence provided by Mr. Jenkins to determine if further investigation of the situation by the Committee is warranted. The Committee also decided to give Ms. Landrieu the opportunity to respond to any evidence that is discovered. If the Independent Counsels agree that the Rules Commiittee should further investigate the evidence, and the Committee determines that illegal activity was employed in the election, the Senate can order a new election for that Senate seat. And if the Democrat Independent Counsel, who is one of Dick Gephardt's attorneys, does not agree with the GOP Counsel on the need for further investigation ... who knows? If this sounds complicated, conciliatory, and time-consuming to you, you're not alone! GOP Senate Agenda to be Decided This Week. The Senate Republicans will be setting a GOP Senate Agenda this week through a new process that many hope will lead to a more unified front for Republicans. Each Republican Senator received a "survey" containing 100 issues/legislative items. The Senators then identified whether they are "for, "against," or "neutral" on each item. In order for an item to be considered as part of the Agenda, it must receive support by at least 75% of the Senators. In addition, each Senator was required to rank his Top Ten Priorities for the new Congress. The Eagle Forum staff was able to sneak a quick peak at the survey and can report the inclusion of many issues that are important to Eagle Forum such as expanding MSAs, continuing welfare reform, cutting taxes, banning partial birth abortion, and returning power over education to local schools. The Senators are meeting on Thursday and Friday of this week to formalize the Agenda and decide how it will be used. We will inform you of the results of this week's meetings as soon as they are available. ============================================ EAGLE FORUM PO Box 618 Alton, IL 62002 Phone: 618-462-5415 Fax: 618-462-8909 Are you on our E-mail list? Just send us an e-mail message with SUBSCRIBE in the subject line! Tell a friend about us! URL: http://www.eagleforum.org E-mail: eagle@eagleforum.org ============================================ -- ====================================================================== Lyle Yarnell The 2nd Amendment: Speak now, and forever hold your piece. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: RE: Re: ComLaw> Jury says not guilty, judge can sentence you anyway (fwd) Date: 08 Jan 1997 17:18:40 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Cc: act@efn.org, Joe Casey , "lesrohde@teleport.com" , comlaw@teleport.com dixerose@yournet.com wrote: > > I saw this. I was going to see if I could find it on the net. This is > their way of circumventing the jury letting the accused go free. It also > allows the government to charge you with anything and everything. If they > get a conviction on just one count then they can pull it all in. I am > fighting this very thing for someone right now. This decision did not make > my morning. NOw I have to figure a way around it. > > Based on this decision, why have a jury trial at all? I believe that is the > point. Nice hatchet job. > > Dixe But everyone is missing the point here -- well, not exactly missing the point for afterall, the 7 Justices who voted in favor of this ruling have a point to make and we are all WELL AWARE of it -- but what I mean is this: Patriots and other legal activists have been telling eachother for several decades now, that the common law is dead, that the court in 1938 (Erie RR vs Tompkins) blended law and equity, etc., etc., and therefore there really is no remedy in the court system. This is wrong thinking! It is exactly what the enemy has wanted you/us to think since such though proscribes certain behavior. But the truth is that the court did not blend law and equity, ONLY THE FORM OF THE ACTIONS! So what happened to the common law vehicle to achieve a remedy? It disappeared into a bunch of military-style, executive power "courts" which at the national level are called "UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT", and in our state (Oregon) are still called courts, but in the words of the Oregon Supreme Court in State ex rel. Wenemark v. Hopkins, I quote from page 679 of 213 Oregon reporter: "In determining whether or not the office of county judge of Jackson county was 'created' by the legislative assembly, as that word is employed in Art XV, sect 2, account must be taken of the purpose of th Art XV, sect 2, in prohibiting the legislature from interfering with the term of an office designated in the constitution. See, by way of analogy, 'State ex rel. Powers v. Welch'. Since amended Art VII authorized the legislature to abolish or remake the county court, and the legislative assembly, in embracing that power, retained only the name of the body, but changed it from a court to an administrative unit, we believe that the conclusion is warranted that so far as Art XV sect 2 is concerned, the legislature created the county court of Jackson county." And from State ex rel Madden v. Crawford we find the Oregon Supreme court saying at 207 Or at pages 62, 63: "By virtue of the provisions of sections 1 and 2 of Art VII as amended, the legislature is given wide, but not unlimited, latitude in the creation of courts, in establishing the jurisdiction of and procedure for the courts so created, and in making changes in the judicial system of this state. . . . Hence, under Art VII, sect 1 as amended in 1910, the Supreme Court is the only court created by the constitution itself; all other courts are to be created by legislative act. . . . In truth, but subject to certain qualifications unncessary to mention, the legislature is empowered to change at any time, the entire judicial system of this state." There are other cites from the Oregon supreme court, and I'm betting that every state in the union has made such changes to the fundemental creation of a three-branched republican form of government, guaranteed to us by the supreme law of the land (Article VI of the American Constitution as upheld by Marbury vs Madison, 5 US 137, and reaffirmed nearly 200 times since 1803 when the opinion was first rendered!) The so-called Federal courts [sic] have two seperate jurisdictions and venues, both created by virture of Constitutional authority, but only ONE is created by the Constitution itself and only that court has the jurisdiction and venue to hear cases involving citizens of America, except for certain Admirality and Maritime cases -- which of course, are very few and far between. The other court was created by the Congress under Article IV of the Constitution whereby the Congress can make all needful rules respecting the TERRITORITIES... The latter courts are today called the "UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURTS" whereas the real constitutional courts are called the "district courts of the United States" (and BTW, the capitalization is not mine, but directly from more than a dozen supreme court rulings and rules of procedure and rules of evidence!!) But it all comes down to: "Which court are you in?" for if you're in the wrong court, then indeed, you are going to get the wrong answers pretty consistently. The fact is that the rule of "advisory juries" has been with us for a long time; look at Fed.R.Civ.P. 39(c) which clarifies that there really is a difference between a "trial BY jury" and a "trial WITH jury". This isn't something made up by some fuzzy-brained-right-wing-whacko-patriot: these things are in the law. If you have a trial "with" jury, it is strictly and advisory jury and the judge is not absolutely bound by its decisions. You don't have to like that (and if you did I'd be very disappointed), but you do have to acknowledge the fact of the existance of rules which pervert or tend to pervert the law such as FRCP 39(c). Once you (you being anyone of course, not just you personally) accept the existance of 2 sets of rules, then you construct your case as either the plaintiff or defendent to grant jurisdiction ONLY to the court which actually has potential jurisdiction and to the court which can and will establish the COMMON LAW as its law for adjudication of the issue(s). The facts are: 1) There are 2 courts with 2 different jurisdictions and powers. 2) There are different types of trials, e.g. trial BY jury vs trial WITH jury 3) All judges, regardless of what court they sit in, are bound by the very same oath: that is they each have taken an oath to support and defend the constitution. 4) Defending the constitution requires that they, (judges and other officers of the court) be PRO ACTIVE in defending it; and that includes a defense of your God Given, Constitutionally secured rights. 5) Failure to uphold your rights gives you a course of action against the judge or other officer, which is a deprivation of rights under the Constitution for America, the Supreme Law Of The Land. 6) 2 courts exist in both the "federal" realm, and in each state 7) Finding them is not the hard part, people like myself have already done that; using them is the hard part... and takes hard minded, hard-headed people to do! -- timr@efn.org (541) 895-4417 voice (541) 895-4681 FAX *************************************************************** "The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, Sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable; and let it come! I repeat, Sir, let it come!" --Patrick Henry (1736-1799) in his famous "The War Inevitable" speech, March, 1775 *************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Harry Barnett Subject: Re: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. Date: 08 Jan 1997 16:27:38 -0800 (PST) On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, John Curtis wrote: > Anyone pulls that crap on my family, I'll spend $20k so my lawyer > can beat up the town's lawyer. > > Hey, I need a hobby right? > > ciao, > > jcurtis A cheaper way to start is to throw a pizza party for the whole damn school and give every kid who shows up a GI JOE toy gun, with door prizes of belt buckles containing removable toy guns for boys, and barrettes, charm bracelets for the girls in the shape of toy guns. Tee shirts for everybody with a Smiley Face with a bullet hole in the forehead on the front, and a grapefruit sized exit hole on the back. Free face painting in gun motifs. More tee shirts with "Life insured by Colt" with a a picture of a Model 1911A1. More tee shirts with..use your imagination...make 'em personal, customized with the idiots name on them. Jokes, e.g. the principal's name is Woo. "Here comes the Miss Woo with . Oh no, Mrs. Woo comes with G.I. Joe. She fakes it with ". Run off a few hundred copies of this, or a whole sheet of similar stuff, and distribute widely. (School Board Meetings?) Drive 'em nuts; ridicule 'em; turn 'em into laughingstocks. Far more effective, and much cheaper. The mere THREAT of doing something like this starts crawfish walkin' like you never saw. (Been there, done that, got the tee shirt...:-) ----- Harry Barnett ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wbg@hevanet.com (wbg) Subject: Re: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. Date: 08 Jan 1997 18:55:28 -0800 (PST) > > Joe Sylvester wrote: > > The gun was sized and intended to fit in the hand of a GI Joe doll. Skip Leuschner responded: > rule-bound bureaucrats mindlessly trying to teach children the art of > responsible living. > > Choice-vouchers anyone - to dismantle the public education monopoly? > Skip. Long overdue. Somehow we have got to start prying loose the iron fist of the NEA. Saw where y'all in WA at least managed to get a statute on the books that prevents the techers' union from using members' dues for socialist politicking without permission from the members. Naturally the union is employing their best skulduggery and thuggery to get around it. Brewster -- *********************************************************************** W. Brewster Gillett wbg@hevanet.com Portland, Oregon USA *********************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: (fwd)Kids Have Gun Access Date: 09 Jan 1997 07:04:50 -0500 >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 23:29:01 -0500 >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >Subject: Kids Have Gun Access > >>From AP Online, located at: >http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/APONLINE/NATIONAL/slugs10226.htm > > >01-08-97 2130EST > >Poll: Many Kids Have Gun Access > > > >NEW YORK (AP) Nearly half of American children ages 10 to 17 >say there is a gun in their home and about one-fourth say they >have access to it, according to a poll. > >Yet only 12 percent of parents report that a firearm in their home >is accessible to their children, meaning many parents may be >unaware or unwilling to admit that their kids can get to their guns. > >Prevention, a magazine devoted to family health and safety, >released the survey this week and called the results ``troubling.'' It >noted that about half of the children said they have handled a gun >but only 22 percent had taken a gun or hunting safety course. > >Forty-five percent of parents said they have a gun in their home. >Eight percent said they keep it loaded. Twenty-four percent of the >children in the poll said they had access to a gun in their home. > >The poll included 731 parents of children under age 18 and 264 of >their children ages 10-17, all interviewed by telephone in late 1995. >The margin of sampling error is plus or minus 4 percentage points >for the adults, 7 points for the children. > >One odd finding in the poll was that 2 percent of the children claim >they have personally fired a gun in self-defense, which would >work out to about 590,000 children nationwide. > >****** Begin editorial comment - HJ *********** > >That means 590,000 children, nationwide, are alive today as a >result of having had access to an "oh my Gawd...GUN". > >****** End editorial comment - HJ ************* > >Edwin Slaughter, director of research at Prevention, suggested >Wednesday that ``some bravado'' inflated that figure. But he added, >``I don't think it's so wrong that it should be dismissed.'' > >=========================================================== >J.J. & Helen Johnson - Fridays - 8:00 pm EST - WWCR 5.070 Mhz >E Pluribus Unum >P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 >Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 >Web Site - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html >"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 > > > "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: DOJ Notice of Deadline Date: 09 Jan 1997 08:09:27 -0800 [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson [zip code exempt] ARIZONA REPUBLIC January 9, 1997 Margaret Ann Irving Deputy Director U.S. Department of Justice Office of Information and Privacy Washington [20530] DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Re: OLA/96-R0565 OLA/96-R0566 MAI:CWT:MLF Dear Ms. Irving: There is a very serious error in your letter to Me dated December 20, 1996. You misunderstood Our FOIA request to have requested "all Acts of Congress and implementing regulations which grant standing to the United States [sic] to bring suit in the United States District Courts." If you would please re-read Our original FOIA request, you will discover that We requested all Acts of Congress and implementing regulations which grant standing to the United States of America [sic] to bring suit in the United States District Courts. There is a difference, in law, between the term "United States" and the term "United States of America". The former refers to the federal government domiciled in the District of Columbia, which is not a state of the Union. The latter refers to the several states which are united by and under the Constitution for the United States of America [sic]. See Preamble. You requested specific information such as public law numbers or bill numbers and dates of enactment. You wrote that, if We could provide you with this additional information, you would be happy to conduct a search of your files. In reply, We refer you to Title 28, United States Code, Sections 1345 ("United States as plaintiff") and 1346 ("United States as defendant"). In neither of these sections are the "United States of America" mentioned. Inclusio unius est exclusio alterius, the maxim of legislative construction, allows Us to infer that the omission was intentional. Confer in Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition. To summarize, We are seeking certified copies of all Acts of Congress and implementing regulations (if any) which grant standing to the United States of America [sic] to bring suit in the United States District Court, and certified copies of all Acts of Congress and implementing regulations which grant criminal jurisdiction to the United States District Court [sic]. Please understand that We have made a diligent search for the documents requested, and they are nowhere to be found. NOTICE OF DEADLINE This is to place you on formal Legal Notice that, if We do not receive the requested documents, with certification, via first class United States Mail, on or before 5:00 p.m. on Friday, January 24, 1997, We will be entitled to proceed on the basis of the conclusive presumption that the requested documents do not exist, as a matter of fact, and as a matter of law, and We will then take appropriate legal and lawful action(s) to enforce My Rights, and the Rights of other Americans whose interests I currently advocate. See People v. United States et al., DCUS, Billings, Montana state. Silence operates as estoppel. Sincerely yours, /s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Citizen of Arizona state, federal witness, Counselor at Law, Relator in People v. United States et al., and Founder, Supreme Law Firm and Supreme Law School copies: William H. Rehnquist, Chief Justice William J. Clinton, The White House Speaker, U.S. House of Representatives President, U.S. Senate Judge Alex Kozinski, Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Fife Symington, Governor of Arizona state Grant Woods, Attorney General, Arizona state Speaker, Arizona House of Representatives President, Arizona State Senate Chief Judge, Arizona Supreme Court Ray Looker, prisoner, Moundsville, West Virginia state Dana Dudley, prisoner, Billings, Montana state Russell Landers, prisoner, Raleigh, North Carolina LeRoy Schweitzer, prisoner, Billings, Montana state Sheila Wallen, convict on appeal, Arivaca, Arizona state William D. Browning, U.S. District Judge, Tucson, Arizona John M. Roll, U.S. District Judge, Tucson, Arizona The Internet # # # ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Pastor in Trouble (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 1997 05:59:04 PST On Jan 8, Gene Gross wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Calling all friends. HELP!! Pastor David Goens and wife Jolene, ministering in a small unregistered church in South Pekin, Illinois, are being persecuted by the Department of Child Family Services of Illinois. Their 10 month old baby has not developed as quickly as the State would like, according to Social worker Eileen Staffy. They arrested Pastor Goens when the State could not get the child. He was arrested without a warrant and placed under $10,000 bond for interfering with the State. He was strip searched and held for 36 hours before being released. Jolene took the baby and their other three children and left the State. The children are safe, but the father still faces criminal felony charges and the mother has been charged with kidnapping her own children. Two pediatricians have examined the baby and there is nothing physically wrong. There is no abuse. The child will naturally grow mentally into maturation. THIS IS RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION IN ITS PUREST FORM!! You can help get them support. They are to be in court Thursday at 4 PM. Call these numbers and protest. Fax them letters. Let the county and state officials know we will not stand idly by and watch this happen. State Attorney Stu Umholts - 309-477-2205 309-477-2241 (fax) Asst. Attorney J.R. Duall same number Sheriff Hodgson 309-477-2248 Eileen Staffy 309-347-5978 South Pekin Police 309-348-3589 Send this to other Christian networks and get the word out. Updates will follow as information comes in. Pastor Mooneyhan [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: American Survival Guide article for Feb. 1997. (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 1997 08:02:22 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Cc: robert-springfield-mo THE TRUE MEANING OF ' GUN CONTROL ' IN THE WORDS OF ITS PROPONENTS BY HOWARD J. FEZELL, ESQ. (AMERICAN SURVIVAL GUIDE FEBRUARY 1997) (NO REPOST FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES, ITS THEIR ARTICLE) "Gun control" is a vague term that means different things to different people. For example, it is unlawful for 14-year olds to buy firearms (or for that matter, cigarettes or alcohol). There are, to be sure, many adolescents who exhibit more common sense than their parents. However, experience has shown that the activities of people below a certain age (be it 18 or 21) should be restricted due to their general lack of maturity and judgment. Laws against minors purchasing firearms are but one of many restrictions society places on young people that most of the public would find unreasonable. It is, nonetheless, a form of gun control. "Gun control" as envisioned by extremist groups such as Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI) means something entirely different. To them gun control is a means to an end--gun prohibition. And not just for minors, violent criminals, or those who warrant institutionalization. Groups like HCI ultimately seek to prohibit firearms ownership by anyone except the government (i.e., the police and military). Two points that are central to prohibitionist thinking are: (a) in order for a society to be civilized, ordinary people must be disarmed; and (b) disarmament of the citizenry can only be achieved gradually, or as HCI's founder put it, "a slice" at a time. Gun-prohibitionists, being true elitists, deem themselves to know what is best for the rest of us and camouflage their true agenda in order to lessen resistance from the citizenry. However, when writing in statist newspapers such as The Washington Post and The New York Times, gun prohibitionists are often quite candid about their ultimate goal. In an op-ed piece titled "Disarm the Citizenry," The Washington Post, Friday, April 5, 1996, page A19, columnist Charles Krauthammer wrote: "Ultimately, a civilized society must disarm its citizenry if it is to have a modicum of domestic tranquility of the kind enjoyed by sister democracies such as Canada and Britain. Given the frontier history and individualist ideology of the United States, however, this will not come easily. It certainly cannot be done radically. It will probably take one, maybe two generations. It might be 50 years before the United States gets to where Britain is today. "Passing a law like the assault weapons ban is a symbolic--purely symbolic--move in that direction. Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation." Back issues of The Washington Post are available on mocrofiche in many public libraries or from the paper's Back Issues Department at (202) 334-7239. Get a copy of Mr. Krauthammer's column and show it to the next person who asks how you can oppose "just one more" gun law. If that person happens to be a reporter, ask how he or she would feel about being "desensiized" to government regulation of the press. Mr. Krauthammer's belief that the disarmament of the American public must be achieved gradually is nothing new. The July 26, 1976 issue of The New Yorker magazine contained an interview with Nelson T. Shield, III in "A Reporter At Large--Handgun," page 53. Mr. Shields (also known as "Pete" Shields) was a founder of the National Council to Control Handguns, which subsequently changed its name to Handgun Control, Inc. (HCI). On pages 57-58 of The New Yorker article, Mr. Shields was very forthright as to the ultimate agenda of his then-fledgling organization: "We;re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily--given the political realities--going to be very modest. Of course, it's true that politicians will then go home and say, ' This is a great law. The problem is solved.' And it's also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time. So then we'll have to start working again to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen the next law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we'd be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal--total control of handguns in the United States--is going to take time. My estimate is from seven to ten years. The first problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second problem is to get all handguns registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition--except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs. and licensed gun collectors--totally illegal." Charles Krauthammer and Pete Shields are not alone in their desire to see the American public disarmed. Attorney Ronald Goldfarb wrote in an op-ed piece in The Washington Post, "[n]o reform can be meaningful without a tough program for dismantling existing arsenals, applying not just to handguns but to all assault weapons (and ammunition). After a brief amnesty, the dismantling of all unregistered and unregulated weapons must swift and thorough." "Domestic Disarmament," The Washington Post, November 21, 1993, page C3. Sen. Daniel Patrick moynihan (D., N.Y.) advocates that a 10,000 percent tax be levied on certain types of ammunition effectively raising its cost out of sight. "Guns Don't Kill People. Bullets Do." The New York Times, December 12, 1993, page E15. Adoption of "a prohibitive excise tax on the same of ammunition" is also advocated by Lloyd Cutler, White House Counsel to both Presidents Carter and Clinton. "License and Restrict Handguns," The Washington Post, December 21, 1993, page A23. After passage of the "Brady Bill" (which imposed a five-business-day waiting period on the sale of handguns) The Washington Post editorialized that, "[t]here remains much more to (especially in regard to banning assault weapons)... " "Gun Law From Barth To Brady," The Washington Post, December 1, 1993, page A24. In another editorial titled "Gun Control In Haiti," this same paper equated gun control with firearms confiscation by American troops occupying that island. The Washington Post, November 29, 1993, page A22. "Disarmament," "restrict," "confiscation," "prohibitive tax," "banning." That is language used by people who don't want other people to bear arms, period. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: starting out great Date: 09 Jan 1997 10:23:35 -0800 The Internet is transforming itself into a virtual zoo. So far this year, we have been treated to pink triangles and jellyfish UFO's. (Make that "J"ellyfish.) Can't wait for more :) /s/ Paul Mitchell P.S. "Zis plaze iz a ZOO!" Peter Sellers "Jellyfish, dah!" "UFO's, nyet." Z. Bignews: Breznevkovitsky, astralomer (vaht iz "Z"?) dunno ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Congress to Count Electoral College Vote (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:09:53 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Thursday January 9 7:01 AM EST Congress to Count Electoral College Vote WASHINGTON (Reuter) - In the final act of the 1996 campaign, the House and Senate meet in joint session Thursday afternoon to officially declare President Clinton and Vice President Al Gore the winners of the Nov. 5 election. In a constitutionally required ritual, the votes cast by members of the electoral college in December will be opened and counted before members of Congress. Those electors were chosen on Nov. 5 when Americans voted for slates pledged to either Democrats Clinton and Gore or Republicans Bob Dole and his running mate, Jack Kemp. A total of 538 electors were chosen in the 50 states and the District of Columbia with the electors for each state equal to the total of its House and Senate members. Unless one or more of the electors votes for someone else, as a few have done in past elections, the final tally will be the same as reported on election night: 379 electoral votes for Clinton and 159 for Dole. Ross Perot and other presidential candidates did not win any electoral votes. The electoral college was established by the U.S. Constitution in 1789. Proposals are made after each presidential election to abolish it and use the popular vote, but that would require a constitutional amendment and none has ever been approved. _________________________________________________________________ Reuters Limited ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: IRS chief plans to resign (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:18:33 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ______ [Contents....]- StarText.Net Home - Community News - InterAct - Market Place Updated: Wednesday, Jan. 8, 1997 at 21:28 CST IRS chief plans to resign By Robert D. Hershey Jr. c.1997 N.Y. Times News Service WASHINGTON -- Internal Revenue Commissioner Margaret Milner Richardson, confirmed Wednesday that she planned to resign as soon as the Clinton administration could find a replacement. The agency has been severely criticized for mismanaging its huge computer-based modernization project, has labored under severe budget cuts and has had its very existence questioned by presidential candidates who last year called it overintrusive. But Mrs. Richardson, a longtime Washington tax lawyer and friend of Hillary Rodham Clinton, denied in an interview Wednesday that she felt under political pressure to leave the job she had held since May 1993, serving one of the longer tenures in recent years at the top of the huge agency. "No, I certainly didn't," said Mrs. Richardson, a 53-year old Texas native who succeeded Shirley D. Peterson, whom President George Bush appointed in 1992. "Just my own personal pressure." In a letter dated Monday to Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, Commissioner Richardson called this "an appropriate time for me to pursue other career opportunities and allow the selection of a successor who could serve during the full second term." But she said she would remain in the post long enough to insure that the IRS had a functioning chief executive during the traditional tax-filing season., which runs through mid-April. Mrs. Richardson said she had no job plans and would not necessarily return to private law practice, where, among other restrictions, she could have no dealings at all with the IRS for a year. The widespread view among private tax practitioners is that Mrs. Richardson performed competently, especially in her efforts to improve compliance with tax law but that she was being blamed for difficulties the agency has had in modernizing, problems that preceded her arrival. "I think Mrs. Richardson has done a phenomenal job of holding that place together," said Peter K. Scott, a partner at Coopers & Lybrand in Washington. "She's weathered a lot of storms." In his response to her resignation letter, Rubin praised the commissioner for accomplishments including improving the agency's "customer-service orientation" and her efforts to help small businesses understand their tax obligations and lighten the compliance burden. But Mr. Rubin did not mention tax-system modernization, which the Treasury has acknowledged to have have been poorly carried out. Congressional overseers have charged the IRS with excessive reliance on its own ability to manage such a multibillion-dollar technical project and has withheld money for the program pending assurance it will be usefully spent. Some people who follow the agency contend that the time has come for it to be led by professional managers instead of the tax lawyers who have long held sway, a view that Rubin is believed to share. The agency has a $7 billion budget and more than 110,000 employees, and tax policy is conducted largely by its parent, the Treasury. After a public meeting of the National Commission on Restructuring the Internal Revenue Service on Wednesday, Mrs. Richardson said it would be "very difficult" for someone not fully versed in the tax law to be an effective commissioner. _________________________________________________________________ © 1997 Fort Worth Star-Telegram -- Terms and Conditions -- Send us your Feedback. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: gulfwar_1.html (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 1997 09:20:03 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Reuters New Media [ Yahoo | Write Us | Search | Info ] [ Index | News | World | Biz | Tech | Politic | Sport | Scoreboard | Entertain | Health ] _________________________________________________________________ Previous Story: Congress to Count Electoral College Vote Next Story: U.S. Mideast Peace Drive Falling Short _________________________________________________________________ Thursday January 9 7:00 AM EST Chemicals Blamed for Gulf War Ills WASHINGTON (Reuter) - Combinations of low-level chemical war gas, pesticides and other agents may have caused unexplained illnesses of thousands of Gulf War veterans, according to a study. The study said a combination of agents in the 1991 war caused three different Gulf War syndromes, the most serious of which produced confusion, dizziness, reasoning problems and sexual impotence in many veterans. A separate study concluded that 2,000 Gulf War veterans in Iowa reported more illnesses than veterans who did not go to the gulf, probably because of the Gulf War veterans' greater exposure to chemicals, solvents and other agents there. The two studies contradicted the conclusion of President Bill Clinton's advisory committee on Gulf War illnesses, which said Tuesday that no such specific causes of unexplained illnesses had been found but that stress was a major factor. The study of 249 Navy combat construction units, known as Seabees, found that confusion was suffered by an unusually high number of those who were at Khafji near the Saudi-Kuwait border on Jan. 20, 1991, when Czechoslovakian experts detected low levels of sarin and mustard gas nearby. "Many Gulf War veterans are suffering from three primary syndromes. The syndromes are due to subtle brain, spinal cord and nerve damage -- but not stress," Dr. Robert Haley, director of the study, told a news conference. Defense Department and Veterans Administration officials have said that at least 5,000 of 80,000 Gulf War veterans examined so far have illnesses that cannot be diagnosed. But the officials insist no single Gulf War syndrome has been found, or patterns to show the 5,000 suffer similar illnesses. The two new studies will be in next week's issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association. Dr. Philip Landrigan, who wrote an editorial summarizing the results, cautioned that neither study proved that chemicals and other agents caused Gulf War veterans' illnesses. He said proof would require further study. Haley said the study of Navy Seabees, conducted by University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center researchers, found three primary Gulf War syndromes and three secondary ones. He said they were caused by combinations of low-level exposure to chemicals including pyridostigmine bromide anti-nerve gas pills, insect repellents and pesticides. The most serious confusion syndrome was found in Seabees who believed they had been exposed to chemical war gas attacks or reported excessive side effects after taking the anti-nerve gas pills. The Defense Department has said up to 20,000 Gulf War veterans might have been near chemical weapons in an Iraqi dump that was blown up by U.S. troops in March 1991, shortly after the Gulf War. But Haley said the Navy Seabees were no where near the weapons dump explosion in southern Iraq. "The problem appears to be much wider," he said. He also said an "impaired cognition" syndrome of bad memory, depression, insomnia, fatigue and headaches was suffered by Seabees who wore flea collars to ward off insects. A third Gulf War syndrome of muscle pains and weakness was found in Seabees who were exposed to concentrated insect repellent containing 75 percent of DEET and who had execessive side effects from taking pyridostigmine bromide. _________________________________________________________________ ________________________ ___________ Help _________________________________________________________________ Previous Story: Congress to Count Electoral College Vote Next Story: U.S. Mideast Peace Drive Falling Short _________________________________________________________________ [ Index | News | World | Biz | Tech | Politic | Sport | Scoreboard | Entertain | Health ] _________________________________________________________________ Reuters Limited Questions or Comments ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lew Glendenning Subject: Re: gulfwar_1.html (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 1997 11:07:09 -0900 I saw a woman associated with this study interviewed on PBS (McNeil or Lehrer, can't ever remember who is left). I thought it was significant the way she completely avoided discussion of biological warfare agents. No mention of the Nichols study. These are the people in S. California who have found mycoplasm (sp?) organisms in the blood of people suffering from Gulf War syndrome, found their families suffering similarly, dead pets, etc. This study was discussed somewhere in the mainstream press, so it is unlikely it would have been ignored if there was a definitive answer, e.g. "No such stuff". So sad when we watch the news the way the Soviets did: to see how information is presented, to attempt to infer truth from what is unsaid. Lew -- "Ideology? We don't got no ideology. We don't need no stinkin' ideology! We have a Constitution!" The CONSTITUTION, the WHOLE CONSTITUTION, and NOTHING BUT the CONSTITUTION. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wootan@dmi.net Subject: Re: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. Date: 09 Jan 1997 12:40:49 -0800 Joe Sylvester wrote: > > Just heard on WBAP (Dallas) radio that a student in, I believe, Washington > state, was suspended for taking a toy gun, the size of a quarter, to school. > The gun was sized and intended to fit in the hand of a GI Joe doll. > > Political Correctness run completely amouk! > The above occured in Seattle BTW. It is a bastion of that sort of thinking. I'm sure glad my family got out of there. One of the biggest problems that I see in the world today is the lack of respect for any form of authority that our youngsters are displaying. The result is going as far as drive by shootings. Yet, when you see the silliness of those in authority, how can we expect youngsters to have any respect for stooooopidity? We should also be able to respect our prez. Right? The ultimate authority in this country is SUPPOSED to be the Constitution! Yet our prez. has zero respect for that excellent document. Our goal MUST be to educate the public to these facts! Our school system does not even teach the Constitution in full. I'm sure some selected parts are passed on, but even those are given a "spin". Jerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Re: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. Date: 09 Jan 1997 13:50:23 -0800 > Yet, when you see the silliness > of those in authority, how can we expect youngsters to have any > respect for > stooooopidity? > > Jerry You raise a fundamental tenet of leadership, Jerry - status and authority come with any leadership job, but [unknown to most wannabe leaders] respect is not part of the package. It must be earned. Leaders who earn it succeed. Those who don't fail. No need for examples. Each of us can find a hundred or so in our own experiences. Regards, Skip. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Re: Student Punished for GI Joe sized toy Gun. Date: 09 Jan 1997 14:12:54 -0800 wbg wrote: > Saw where y'all in WA at least managed to get a statute on > the books that prevents the techers' union from using members' dues for > socialist politicking without permission from the members. Naturally the > union is employing their best skulduggery and thuggery to get around it. > > Brewster > Hi Brewster, long time - - - Yes, we've got a statute on the books as you say, but the WA Ed Assn (WEA) has managed to skirt is successfully by forming other front organizations, supposedly independent of WEA, to do their socialist work and activist politicking. The gross violations in connection with the recent election year, to the tune of 1/3 to 1/2 $millions in union dues, are now in the hands of the state attorney general because the $10,000 max fine our WA PDC (our version of the federal FEC) could impose were not severe enough to deal with the scope and flagrancy of the WEA's disregard for the law. We shall see how that comes out. Pardon my skepticism, but our Attorney General remains as a hair-of-fire Dem relic of the ultra liberal Lowry establishment. Until convinced otherwise, I expect that she is less interested in law enforcment than in sweeping the whole smelly mess under the nearest rug in order to sustain the WEA monopoly and support it's liberalism. Regards, Skip. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wbg@hevanet.com (wbg) Subject: Re: WA teachers' union Date: 09 Jan 1997 17:40:24 -0800 (PST) > > wbg wrote: > > > Saw where y'all in WA at least managed to get a statute on > > the books that prevents the teachers' union from using members' dues for > > socialist politicking without permission from the members. Naturally the > > union is employing their best skulduggery and thuggery to get around it. > > > > Brewster > > > > Hi Brewster, long time - - - > > Yes, but the WEA has managed to skirt it [snip] > [snip] in the hands of the state attorney general . . . > . . .I expect that she is less interested in law > enforcement than in sweeping the whole smelly mess under the nearest rug > in order to sustain the WEA monopoly and support its liberalism. > > Regards, Skip. Like a great many Attorneys General around the country, she's obviously only interested in enforcing the law when someone with whom she disagrees is charged with breaking it. Just another brick in the growing structure of evidedence that the legal profession needs to be seriously leashed. ( or is that muzzled? :-) ) Brewster -- *********************************************************************** W. Brewster Gillett wbg@hevanet.com Portland, Oregon USA *********************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Clinton's Global Money Scandal (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 1997 07:46:07 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- By JOSEPH MIANOWANY Special to AOL WASHINGTON -- When voters re-elected President Clinton last November, the White House arrogantly brushed aside questions about improper Democratic fund-raising as nothing more than the last gasps of a hopeless Republican campaign. The president's re-election effort even went so far as to produce a television commercial arguing that GOP candidate Bob Dole's questions about the Democrats' links to overseas money proved only how "desperate" he had become. What have we learned in the past two months? Well, even if Dole's campaign was desperate, the stench associated with the Democrats' money-raising tactics has intensified to potentially toxic levels. Back when Clinton asked for votes on Nov. 5, the concern was about campaign money Democrats raised from Indonesian business interests. Now, we've learned of potentially troublesome contributions from people with business connections in China, Korea, Vietnam and Taiwan. We've also been told that about $640,000 in questionable money found its way to the Clintons' personal legal defense fund. In addition, we've heard about intimate White House meetings in which people with Far East business ties enjoyed coffee with the president. And we've even found out that one of those people was, believe it or not, a Chinese arms merchant. The smell has gotten so bad that even the Democrats are changing their tune. A few months ago they insisted that nothing improper took place. Now, their damage-control effort has forced them to return more than $1 million in questionable contributions, White House press secretary Michael McCurry has admitted they were "not scrupulous" enough in checking the background of people who met with the president and even Clinton has graciously conceded it was wrong for the Chinese weapons dealer to have been allowed to meet with him. Those admissions are fine as far as they go, but they don't address the core of the problem. When you look at the growing list of foreign money connections, you are forced to wonder where it will end. Only citizens and companies of the United States are supposed to be able to make campaign contributions, but it seems every week we are told about more funds flowing to the Democrats from people with overseas business ties who cannot explain how they got the cash. How strong was this torrent of money? And why should we think that the fund-raising stopped in Asia? Are there businesses tied to other areas of the world that also felt the need to pony up to the Democrats? The primary question in this affair is still the same as it has always been: Did the Clinton administration put U.S. foreign and trade policy up for sale in return for cash? That query remains unanswered and as of yet there is no evidence of favors being dispensed for money. But the ever-growing nature of this matter now must make all thinking people wonder about additional questions. First and foremost, what started this flood of dollars to the Democrats? Did these contributors come to the Clinton administration unsolicited or were they approached? Was there, in effect, an effort to shake down people around the planet for campaign donations? Did this administration think so little of our standing in the world that it engaged in a globalized scrounging for cash? That would give a whole new meaning to the term "trade mission." You must also wonder about the atmosphere that prompted this apparent foreign gold rush. Were the Democrats so consumed with the desire to not be outspent by Republicans that they adopted an "anything goes" attitude? We've seen political cravings overpower common sense before. A dozen years ago, some members of the Reagan administration became so obsessed with the desire to help the Nicaraguan rebels that they ignored both their better judgment and the law. What resulted was the Iran-Contra scandal. And back in 1972, the fact that Richard Nixon was virtually certain to defeat George McGovern didn't stop the Republican campaign excesses of Watergate. Part of the Democrats' problem this time around is that their own early excuses are no longer holding water. At first, we were led to believe nothing was amiss and everything was above board. Then, the questionable donations were attributed to bureaucratic errors. Now, the growing nature of the affair makes the "snafu" excuse a little difficult to believe. Given what we have learned in recent weeks, we must ask if the Democrats had in place any serious system for checking donations, or if they just chose to ignore repeated warnings. And what prompted these donors to reach for their wallets? Did they hand over hundreds of thousands of dollars out of the goodness of their hearts, or did they have a reason to expect they would get something in return? If this scandal keeps growing -- and it shows no sign of slowing down -- we will be left with two possible choices regarding those responsible for this mess. These folks, who are supposed to do the people's business, may be either among the most corrupt or most inept individuals to occupy positions of trust in years. Neither is a very pleasant option. --------- Joe Mianowany was formerly chief political writer for United Press International. 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NOTES OF MEETINGS/CONVERSATIONS ON INSLAW & FOSTERGATE (10/21/95) ================================================================= By "Mr. Mercedes" (Pseudonym) ----------------------------- [...continued...] By the way, the Washington Post supposedly paid many thousands of dollars to Roger Morris and Sally Denton for their story on Mena, but after 11 weeks of delays they pulled it because they felt they were getting jacked around and got Bob Guccione to publish it in Penthouse 7/95. Also, Terry Reed has a book coming out on Barry Seal/Mena, Arkansas. Another book project now underway is the story of the CIA's drug op in New York with NYPD cop and "made man" "Big Al" Carone, former Colonel in Army Intel. Carone was the "bagman" for NYPD, friend of DCI Bill Casey, and "banker" for the CIA's drugs op from 1946-80 (died of "CIA flu"), along with other "bagmen" associates, Russell Herman (also died of "CIA flu") and "fixer/briber" Al Hobert and NYPD "dirty" cop Gene Howard who were all "on the take." Two more CIA drug smuggling ops reports were broadcast on TV. One program was done by Mike Wallace of "60 Minutes" which re-broadcast his 2-year-old report on 9/3/95 about a Venezuelan Cartel/CIA supposed cocaine smuggling sting operation. Unfortunately, this CIA op allowed many millions of dollars of powder to hit the streets of America, without ever busting anyone. The other one was a British TV Ch. 4 broadcast of the suppressed "The Maltese Doublecross" documentary on Pan Am 103's heroin smuggling operation which presented witnesses and evidence which showed that this may very well have been the real reason for the bomb explosion which killed all passengers on board. As for the CIA/NSA computer operation, it would appear that it is relatively new and extremely lucrative. Estimates of just how profitable this operation is range into the hundreds of millions of dollars, which goes to funding "off the books" Black Ops, now that Congress, with only a slightly higher degree of scrutiny, has cut back on their funding. James Norman, Bill Hamilton and many others state that in the early 1980s the government expropriated Inslaw's revolutionary and proprietary PROMIS software after Bill Hamilton had created an advanced version of PROMIS which was originally developed while he was at the NSA. It was based on computer aided software engineering technologies which used software to create and modify software, thus enabling PROMIS to be modified to a multitude of applications because of its inherent versatility and adaptability. The government realized its numerous applications such as applying it to the secret purpose of tracking down terrorist money in international banking. The CIA, with operatives such as Oliver North and Ted Shackley, purportedly used this very "adaptable" PROMIS to create secret bank accounts through "computerized money laundering" for the purpose of financing CIA covert ops, such as Iran-Contra and Iraqgate. This led to another application, wherein the NSA/CIA used it to create a compromised universal banking system which could be secretly accessed by their bugged software, sold by NSA "front companies" to unsuspecting banks, which allowed them [NSA/CIA] to access secret accounts anywhere around the world. Additionally, specially designed NSA chips have been placed in computers, along with Inslaw's stolen PROMIS Plus, which are then sold through these NSA "front companies," such as Systematics, Boston Systematics, Hadron and Israeli Systematics and agents, such as Robert Maxwell, to strategic and highly sensitive ally and enemy customers alike. (Related articles and info: Time 8/19/95 "Onward Cyber Soldier," New York Times 8/19 "Citibank Fraud Case Raises Computer Questions," Wall Street Journal's and Wang Laboratories' John A. Dean 3/3/95 letter to DCI John Woolsley.) Purportedly, these bugged computers are set up to transmit their sensitive information within by data bursts up to low-flying NSA satellites. Inslaw and their Atlanta law firm, with the assistance of attorney Eliott Richardson (Pres. Nixon's former Attorney General who resigned in protest over Watergate), are preparing to go back into the Court of Federal Claims in December '95 after a more than 10-year battle to seek a multi-hundred million dollar judgement for non-payment of royalties. A number of knowledgeable people state that if PROMIS's advanced software was stolen and used since the early 1980s for numerous applications such as in our nuclear subs and nuclear missile defense system, Inslaw should be owed in excess of half a billion dollars. Some politicians and journalists privately, with only a few publicly, have supported Inslaw's position that the government stole their PROMIS software, but almost all have been unwilling to really investigate and go public with the real facts. Seymour Hersh, one of a few to attempt to get the whole Inslaw story out, recently researched and proposed an article for the New York Times Magazine, Vanity Fair, and Atlantic Monthly, but unfortunately they all passed. Even a House investigation and retired Federal Judge Nicholas J. Bua's grand jury 1993 investigation in Chicago didn't get to the bottom of this government scandal, possibly because of the magnitude of the situation. Attorney General Barr appointed Bua as a Special Counsel, but he was really a "dependent counsel." Even though Chuck Hayes, who secured many of the witnesses (such as Ari Ben-Menashe) did testify, Michael Riconosciuto along with many [other] witnesses didn't in person or at all. The Judge was sued for not conducting a proper investigation by Chicago investigative journalist Sherman Skolnick and Michael Riconosciuto. Bua submitted a "whitewashed" report to Attorney General Reno, who turned it over to the White House who did nothing... except send Inslaw information in a secure envelope to Vince Foster shortly before his death. Debra Gorham, former secretary to Vince Foster and William Kennedy, her prior boss, secretly testified before Senate Whitewater Committee on 6/23/95. In addition to Webster Hubbell, William Kennedy was another Rose Law Firm partner who resigned at the White House under a scandal and, also as Jackson Stephen's attorney in 1984, he filed incomplete information with the Federal Reserve about Stephens's family holding in Worthen Bank (New York Times 5/9/95 "Fed Ends Inquiry Into an Arkansas Family"). In her confidential testimony, Debra Gorham disclosed a key point wherein she stated that Vince Foster gave her two NSA 1-inch ringed binders (Ambrose Evans-Pritchard's London Sunday Telegraph 8/6 article and Debra Gorham's excerpted confidential transcripts) which she put in Bernard Nussbaum's safe. Debra Gorham described one binder as blue; it may well have been our nuclear missile launch codes which control the entire U.S. missile defense system -- the ultimate power. These codes access any missile and can launch it wherever programmed. Also, at a later public Whitewater Senate hearing on 8/1/95, Senator Faircloth's aide confirmed that Debra Gorham was instructed by her counsel to say, "I do not recall," when he passed a hurriedly written note before her to respond to the Senator's question, "Did Foster ever get any documents on Systematics or Inslaw?" In direct contradiction to her sworn testimony, through a confidential friend, Gorham admitted receiving and even reading some of a secure letter on Inslaw from Webster Hubbell. Although it might be hard to prove, since she only admitted through her friend that she was familiar with Inslaw from the previous Washington, D.C. law firm employer, there can be no doubt that Gorham lied to Congress about not receiving a letter on Inslaw. Chuck Hayes and other highly placed confidential sources have stated that Vince Foster, as a NSA secret operative since the late '70s and a partner at Rose Law Firm, worked on secret and clandestine matters at Systematics (owned by Jackson Stephens). Larry Nichols, a former Arkansas friend of Clinton's, has stated that a Systematics employee, who is afraid of being fired, confirmed to him that Foster came in shortly before his death, flashing NSA credentials, and demanded that this person run a secret program for him, which he did. After Foster's death, this same Systematics employee asked Larry Nichols if anything he did for Vince Foster could have been a reason for his death. In a significant development, Rep. Leach, Chairman of the Whitewater hearings, may be prepared to subpoena this person and therefore force him to testify when the hearings commence around the end of September, but don't count on him being called or showing up. [...to be continued...] Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom See also: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: 101 Things to do 'Til the Revolution (fwd) Date: 09 Jan 1997 14:14:26 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- 101 THINGS TO DO 'TIL THE REVOLUTION, a book Review by Vin Suprynowicz (vin@lvrj.com) or (vin@intermind.net) About once a year, a book crosses my desk that gets me up on my feet pacing, cornering my long-suffering cohorts so I can read them passages aloud. When their response is to try to pilfer the thing off my desk until I have to stand guard with a metal pica-pole, whacking their hands and informing them this is not the local lending library, I know I'm onto something. It happened about a year ago with John Ross' novel of the gun culture, "Unintended Consequences" (from little Accurate Press in St. Louis.) Previous to that was Peter Duesberg's "Inventing the AIDS Virus (Regnery) and L. Neil Smith's inspiring novel of handguns in outer space, "Pallas" (hardcover from Tor, or paperback from Laissez-Faire books, 1-800-326-0996.) This year, Christmas came just a few days late, as I opened my mail on Jan. 3 to discover an unobtrusive little 191-page trade paperback by Claire Wolfe. Put off by the parody ladies-magazine title, I prepared to read a few passages and consign the thing to the "someday" heap. Instead, I found myself messaging bookseller friends from San Francisco to Providence: "Recommend you make prompt inquiries RE stocking Claire Wolfe's new paperback, '101 Things To Do 'Til The Revolution'." Of late, I can pretty well predict my e-mail will contain several messages a week from earnest souls who plead: "Have just discovered your columns. Always thought of myself as a conservative or Republican, but I find I agree with almost everything you say. The government is out of control and our remaining freedoms and being sold down the river. But no matter how many politicians promise to roll back taxes and and repeal bad laws, we just get more of the same, and then I'm told 'You can't complain, you voted for them.' "Help! I'm not ready yet to start shooting bureaucrats at random. There are too many of them; they'll just use it as an excuse to clamp down even harder; and who'll take care of my family when I'm gone? What can I do?" In the past, I've tried to answer these earnest pleas by talking about the importance of becoming a fully-informed juror, since jury duty (providing we honor our consciences and the Ninth Amendment, in the face of any "instructions" to the contrary from the black-robed prosecutor behind the bench) allows us to stand as a last line of defense for our fellow citizens against the intrusions of an out-of- control government. I've struggled to explain the importance of exercising our Second Amendment rights, of acquiring and learning the safe use of militia- style arms and standing up for those who are persecuted for insisting that only an armed people can ever be free. And I've talked of the insidiousness of the mandatory government youth propaganda camps. Imagine my relief at now being able to say "There happens to be a new book that answers this very question, available for just $20.90 postpaid from Loompanics in Port Townsend, Washington. Twenty percent discounts for five to nine copies, 40 percent off for 10 to 49, dial 1-800-380-2230 ..." In her introduction to "101 Things To Do 'Til The Revolution," Claire Wolfe writes: "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards. On the road to tyranny, we've gone so far that polite political action is about as useless as a miniskirt in a convent. ... "Something's eventually going to happen. Government will bloat until it chokes us to death, or one more tyrannical power grab will turn out to be one too many. ... Maybe it'll be one more round of ' 'reasonable gun control' or one more episode of burning children to death to save them from 'child abuse.' Whatever. Something will snap ... "Until then, what do you do if you ... don't want to be a Good Little Citizen begging an unhearing congresscritter to give back the rights he and his buddies swiped from you? ('Dear Congressman Baron: You're such a busy and important person, I'm sure this little matter has just slipped your mind temporarily. But 90 percent of the federal government is unconstitutional. ... I'm sure you'll want to abolish all the unauthorized agencies and programs right away. Please don't forget to repeal all the illegal laws and get rid of the taxes while you're at it' ..." Ms. Wolfe's "101" answers are useful, and thoroughly entertaining. >From shifting your meager assets to where that junkie with the million-dollar-a-minute habit, Uncle Sam, can't lay hands on them, to preserving and storing enough food and water to last you through any extended shutdown of the government and commercial services, to the proper way to bury your guns should blanket confiscation loom (as in Australia right now), this common-sense guide never loses its sense of humor and perspective. It's blissfully free of the delusion that the system can still be reformed, but also of those tedious ramblings about U.N. conspiracies and biblical prophesy that clog so much of what passes for "survivalist" literature these days. If you're just starting to realize the "police" gang is unlikely to protect you in times of real disorder -- that you'd better break down and buy some firearms to protect your home and loved ones -- where do you start? "101 things" has the specific, well-thought-out answers. Handguns? Sexists may have to re-examine their prejudices as this "middle-aged lady" warns her readers to go no smaller than .40 Smith & Wesson or .357 magnum: "Nothing smaller, please! Don't go out and get a .25 or a .32 because you're inexperienced, have small hands or are afraid of big guns. Instead, get some experience, overcome your fears, or find a large caliber gun with a grip that fits smaller hands. A gun that is too underpowered may not have the stopping power to save your life in an emergency." Where on earth did this serendipitous little volume come from? "I'd been active in the Libertarian movement for ages," Ms. Wolfe explained by telephone, as I took her away from a warm supper at home in the boondocks of the Pacific Northwest. "Before the 1994 election I was really excited, I worked on the campaign of a Republican, Linda Smith, who ran for Congress in the 3rd District in Washington State. I grilled her, I had dinner with her, I backed her up against the wall at a cocktail party and wouldn't let anyone else talk to her; I asked her all the questions, and she gave every right answer. "I worked for her, she won, and within six months she voted for House Bill 666, which would have gutted the Fourth Amendment, would have allowed evidence to be used that was the product of illegal searches. She voted for that and then she didn't even answer my letter asking why. "So over the course of '95 I just became angrier and more furious. I was offered the chance to write a manual of political action for the gun rights people, based on the Handgun Control manual that someone had gotten hold of, so I worked on that. But I thought, 'I'm telling people lies, I'm telling them how to work within the system, and it's all useless. It just doesn't work.' "I was just to the bursting point with hate and frustration, I thought I was going to go postal. But one day the name of this book just hit me, the name and the first line, and I started laughing, I thought it was funny. So I sat down, wrote about a third of the book in a week, sent the proposaloff to Loompanics, and they bought it. ... "All In wanted was to write it; I didn't know if anyone would read it. So now it's so strange to have people tracking me down over the Internet, asking 'Are you the one who wrote, "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards"...'? Especially because so many of them say 'Well, that's what I think, too.' ... "When I was working on the book, of course I thought I was being very radical, but then after it came back from the publisher I said to myself, half the message of this book is 'Take responsibility for yourself; beresponsible.' And that's a very 19th-century message, a very old-fashioned message. But people who do that are the worst enemies of the state, or at least the people the state can least control ... "It's an angry but an uninhibited book, it's a middle-aged lady sitting down, sick to death of her respectability" (Ms. Wolfe makes her living writing corporate newsletters and advertising copy, mostly under a pseudonym) "and saying 'Screw that, we can't win within the system, so screw that.' "That's part of the reason for the title. 'One-hundred-and-one things' is always attached to '101 ways to fold napkins,' so I wanted to take that concept and apply it to a very different kind of problem. ... "I'm sorry that I circumvented the question of when to shoot; I don't know when it will come that time. I just think we will know when it is time." Till then, "101 Things to Do 'Til The Revolution" is available from Loompanics Unlimited, P.O. Box 1197, Port Townsend, Wash. 98368, at $20.90 postpaid, volume discounts available. Buy several. You have friends. Vin Suprynowicz vin@lvrj.com, (OR:) vin@intermind.net ======================================================== Vin Suprynowicz is the assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Readers may contact him via e-mail at vin@lvrj.com, or vin@intermind.net. The web site for the Suprynowicz column is at http://www.nguworld.com/vindex/. The column is syndicated in the United States and Canada via Mountain Media Syndications, P.O. Box 4422, Las Vegas Nev. 89127. =========================================================== Note from Claire Wolfe to Vin: In answer to posting on the Search for Liberty List Serve: Doc, thank you and bless you! To all on this list who read Doc's "off-point" message, I'll speak up in Doc's defense and say, "No it isn't! Item #43 in the book Vin reviewed is about moving to a freer place." So the message on-topic, after all. Doc and Ed from this list were instrumental in bringing me to Search for Liberty, and have helped make a quote from the book "famous" (or infamous, as the case may be). What you don't know yet is that Vin would never have written the review below if you guys hadn't gotten the ball rolling on the quote. I hope the book makes a difference. I know you folks have made a big difference to me. If there is ever a Volume II of the book, it will no doubt have more items about the search for freer places, thanks to the people here. Claire claire.wolfe.freedom@worldnet.att.net ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." --- Claire Wolfe ED. NOTE: Now you know the rest of the story!!!!! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 98 (fwd) Date: 10 Jan 1997 08:22:36 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Thanks to all paid subscribers, without whose support this effort would not be possible. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 9 Num. 98 ====================================== ("Quid coniuratio est?") NOTES OF MEETINGS/CONVERSATIONS ON INSLAW & FOSTERGATE (10/21/95) ================================================================= By "Mr. Mercedes" (Pseudonym) ----------------------------- [...continued...] [CN: The rest of this essay, as typed by CN, omits portions of the original which seemed redundant. Also, the claims made by "Mr. Mercedes" are his own; much of what he says is beyond my own knowledge. Be assured, however, that I have spoken with "Mr. Mercedes" many times and that he is not a dilettante in these matters.] In addition to acting as an NSA agent, James Norman stated that Vince Foster was also selling NSA and other high-level U.S. government and military secrets to Israel's Mossad with the assistance of another former Rose Law Firm partner, Hillary Clinton (she was the attorney of record for none other than Systematics once in 1978 and later in (1981 or 82?)) James Norman stated that Dee Dee Myers, former White House Press Secretary, reportedly set up Foster by getting him out of the White House where he was killed in a not very professional and hurriedly arranged mafia-style hit, made to look like a suicide. Her recent drunk driving arrest was a cover for an intense CIA interrogation about her involvement in Foster's death. In a completely different, but interrelated vein of the Inslaw/PROMIS situation, CNN broadcast an excerpt of a one-and-a-half hour taped interview on 12/12/91 with Canadian John Belton who described how former California Gov. Reagan's Secretary of Health, Financial News Network founder/former owner and secret intelligence operative, Earl W. Brian, was involved in funding October Surprise. Additionally, Belton told CNN just how Earl Brian defrauded Nesbitt Thompson, the Canadian investment company where Belton worked, of $50 million through stock manipulation of Brian's public companies. Despite the significance of Belton's CNN interview, which aired worldwide and even with front page coverage in Canadian newspapers, there's been no coverage in the U.S. James Norman stated that Caspar Weinberger, Forbes' Chairman Emeritus, has also been implicated [by Chuck Hayes checking] out encrypted code number found by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard in Barry Seal's car trunk after he was murdered by Colombian hitmen when DOJ/DEA hung him out to dry. Evans-Pritchard gave Norman the number, who in turn had Hayes run it and see who and what he could come up with. Hayes found that the number turned out to be a secret Swiss bank account for Caspar Weinberger through which he pulled out several million dollars. Some sources even believe it was possible that the whole NSA/Foster operation was a policy decision under Reagan/Bush to pay back Israel for their help with Iraq by providing them with our nuclear missile defense system. It is unknown if Caspar Weinberger had applied any pressure to kill Norman's story at Forbes, but he certainly feels that his continuing investigation into Weinberger's involvement in the "Fostergate" story was the real reason for his being fired. Other journalists who were fired for writing or attempting to write stories on Vince Foster/Inslaw include Christopher Ruddy formerly at New York Post (1/27/94 article, "Doubts Raised Over Foster's Suicide," and 2/10/94 article, "Fumbling Feds Change Story on Foster's 'Suicide'" and Pittsburgh Tribune-Review 9/20/95 "Police Failed to Find Keys to Foster's Car at Park" and 9/26/95 "Clinton Security Chief's Murder Still Unsolved") and Tony Kimery (Media Bypass 9/95, "Penetration: Fostergate II" follow-up to Norman's 8/95 article and upcoming 10/2/95 Insight Magazine article on the NSA's Fin-CEN, Financial Crimes Enforcement Network) at a Washington, D.C. wire service. Since Presidential hopeful Bob Dole is reported to have Jackson Stephens as his Campaign Finance Chairman, even if he doesn't have a secret Swiss bank account like many of his Congressional colleagues, the damage to his campaign could be terminal if and when this scandal breaks and he is linked with one of the central figures with [Stephens'] Systematics company. Quite possibly, since many are involved in both parties and independent counsel Ken Starr appears to have been involved in some way, early on in the Inslaw matter, recusing himself as Solicitor General, nothing about this Vince Foster scandal may ever come out in either the House or Senate Whitewater hearings or Starr's investigation and final report if they all can help keep it buried with Vince Foster, especially if there is no serious media scrutiny and reporting. If nothing is done we can almost certainly expect a huge "blowback" as described by Robert Friedman (New Yorker Magazine 3/17/95, "The CIA's Jihad"), a term which describes how the CIA's covert ops many times wind up causing more problems than their ops are worth. One of these CIA "blowbacks" presumably resulted in the bombing of the World Trade Center after the CIA trained, armed, and financed Arab terrorists and Afghan rebels to fight our former enemy, the Russian occupying army. Hopefully though, sooner or later serious journalists will decide to truly investigate this story; only then will "Fostergate" and Inslaw be prime time news, despite all the efforts of government officials, business leaders, and major media, to avoid, suppress and/or write dis- or misinformation on this blockbuster story. Who knows, maybe Safire had a point when he wrote, "Sometimes conspiracy theories uncover conspiracy." But poet Robert Frost really said it best: "...But I have PROMISes to keep, and miles to go before I sleep." Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom See also: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neil@jove.geol.niu.edu (Neil Dickey) Subject: Re: Clinton's Global Money Scandal (fwd) Date: 10 Jan 1997 09:04:39 -0600 pwatson@utdallas.edu (Paul Watson) forwarded this to the list: >By JOSEPH MIANOWANY >Special to AOL > >WASHINGTON -- When voters re-elected President Clinton last November, the >White House arrogantly brushed aside questions about improper Democratic >fund-raising as nothing more than the last gasps of a hopeless Republican >campaign. [ ... Snip ... ] >Back when Clinton asked for votes on Nov. 5, the concern was about campaign >money Democrats raised from Indonesian business interests. Now, we've learned >of potentially troublesome contributions from people with business >connections in China, Korea, Vietnam and Taiwan. We've also been told that >about $640,000 in questionable money found its way to the Clintons' personal >legal defense fund. [ ... Snip ... ] There's another, perhaps even more serious, question waiting for an answer as well. I saw this first as a post on one of the lists I read, and then found an article in the Chicago Tribune which confirmed the essential details. I paraphrase: Do you remember last year when, out of the blue, Clinton declared the Kaiparowits Plateau to be a National Monument? Even the environmentalists were taken absolutely by surprise. The move shut down plans to mine the huge deposits of some of the best low-sulfur coal in North America, which exist there. It turns out that Indonesia is a major exporter of low-sulfur coal, and the Lippo Group (Indonesian mega-corporation), which made large contributions to Clinton's personal legal fund that later had to be returned, apparently controls some significant fraction of that trade, though I don't remember the exact amount. It's circumstantial at this point, but one plausible interpretation is that the foreign policy of the United States was sold for personal gain. Not even Nixon at his worst did anything like that, and the Iran-Contra people weren't accused of lining their own pockets. If this turns out to be true, it's an all-time low in terms of the Presidency. The opinions which I have expressed herein are entirely my own, unless other- wise noted. No-one else should be held responsible for what I think. | D. N. Dickey | Virtuous motives, trammeled by inertia and | | Research Associate | timidity, are no match for armed and | | Northern Illinois Univ. | resolute wickedness. | | neil@earth.geol.niu.edu | - W. S. Churchill | | **Finger for public key** | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wootan@dmi.net Subject: Re: Clinton's Global Money Scandal (fwd) Date: 10 Jan 1997 12:37:57 -0800 >Do you remember last year when, out of the blue, Clinton declared the >Kaiparowits Plateau to be a National Monument? Even the environmentalists >were taken absolutely by surprise. The move shut down plans to mine >the huge deposits of some of the best low-sulfur coal in North America, >which exist there. It turns out that Indonesia is a major exporter of >low-sulfur coal, and the Lippo Group (Indonesian mega-corporation), which >made large contributions to Clinton's personal legal fund that later had >to be returned, apparently controls some significant fraction of that trade, >though I don't remember the exact amount. This was recently covered in depth on NET Television. In addition to the accurate information that Neil Dickey has given above, it should also be noted that the Clinton administration has set up a business venture with the Chinese and the Lippo Group to allow an Arkansas (are we suprised) contractor, who contributed a good deal to Gov. Clinton, to build a coal fired power plant in Red China. The coal, of course, is to be supplied by the Lippo Group. It was also noted that the Utah coal was the worlds largest deposit of environmentaly safe, or "Envirocoal". The deposit in Indonesia is second only to the deposit in Utah. The Utah deposit already had rail lines nearby and was by far the cheapest to develope. The Indonesian deposit will require trucking to ships on the coast, and will accordingly be a lot more expensive. This information is presented from my, now too old, memory. I believe it to be accurate though. Accordingly, it should be verified through NET Television prior to using it for any publication. NET will no doubt be happy to verify, however, as they are not to be counted as "FOB's". That is no doubt why the DISH network and others are trying to silence them. (If you wish to verify, let me know and I will find you an e-mail address for net, or you can find it yourself with a web browser, or on NET itself.) On a related note, if you are a DISH subscriber, and have not already done so, call DISH and tell them NOT to remove NET from their programing. If you are not a DISH subscriber, you could still call and tell them that you may one day be a subscriber, but certainly would not if they choose to deprive us of conservative viewpoints. I would refrain from using the term "censor", as they own the network. Censorship, by definition is done by a governing authority. They may simply see this as excersizing their rights, which it is. Yet they need to know that we too will excersize our rights if they do so. This is comparable to those of us who have left other lists to excersize our rights because the list owners excersized their rights to be objectionable, simply for fear of wrongly being accused of censorship. (Sounds sort of like the Republicans "going along" so they won't be accused of "mean spiritedness".) Frequently it is a sad loss for all involved, but some of us must do what we see as right. I will leave DISH the day they remove NET. This will cost me several hundred dollars, but right is right. Jerry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Lawson" Subject: Fwd: "Where have All the Childre Date: 10 Jan 1997 21:23:21 -0500 ==================BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE================== Yep -- "Where have All the Children Gone" is the new song by Peter, Paul, and Mary -- it's a rework of their 1960s hit "Where have All the Flowers Gone". Starting in a week or two the anti-gun message will be heard on public service ads that include news footage of child gun violence so graphic that the producers have recommended TV stations air them only during hours that young people are not like to be watching. The ads are sponsored by the National Crime Prevention Council with help from the Justice Department (you tax dollars at work to deprive you of your RKBA) and others. Source: 1/13/97 issue of U.S. News & World Report Time to retaliate -- who can rework "Where have All the Flowers Gone" into: "Where have All the Freedoms (Liberties, Rights) Gone" "Where have All the Criminals (Tyrants) Come From" -Johann == Johann Opitz (w) johann_opitz@smtp.svl.trw.com == (h) johannp@aimnet.com == All Disclaimers Apply (to protect my employer) == ===================END FORWARDED MESSAGE=================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: re: Where have all the Flowers Gone Date: 10 Jan 1997 20:16:24 -0800 >Time to retaliate -- who can rework "Where have All the Flowers Gone" into: >"Where have All the Freedoms (Liberties, Rights) Gone" >"Where have All the Criminals (Tyrants) Come From" > >-Johann Would you settle for: Bill the magic tyrant lives in DC And frolics in the underpants of any girl he sees Bill the magic tyrant thinks we're not free He's in for quite a big surprise if his thugs come mess with me - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Sylvester Subject: Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 1997 (Introduced in the House) Date: 10 Jan 1997 23:06:20 -0600 Some good news. A small ray of hope (Of course all that's really needed is to respect the Constitution. ------- ---Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 1997 (Introduced in the House) HR 27 IH 105th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 27 To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES January 7, 1997 Mr. BARTLETT of Maryland (for himself, Mr. BARTON of Texas, Mr. SOLOMON, Mr. COBLE, Mr. CALLAHAN, Mr. CUNNINGHAM, Mr. CALVERT, Mr. BARCIA, Mr. YOUNG of Alaska, Mr. DOOLITTLE, Mr. STUMP, Mr. COLLINS, Mrs. CHENOWETH, Mr. COBURN, Mr. CONDIT, Mr. BURTON of Indiana, and Mr. HOLDEN) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary A BILL To protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Citizens' Self-Defense Act of 1997'. SEC. 2. FINDINGS. The Congress finds the following: (1) Police cannot protect, and are not legally liable for failing to protect, individual citizens, as evidenced by the following: (A) The courts have consistently ruled that the police do not have an obligation to protect individuals, only the public in general. For example, in Warren v. District of Columbia Metropolitan Police Department, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. App. 1981), the court stated: `[C]ourts have without exception concluded that when a municipality or other governmental entity undertakes to furnish police services, it assumes a duty only to the public at large and not to individual members of the community.'. (B) Former Florida Attorney General Jim Smith told Florida legislators that police responded to only 200,000 of 700,000 calls for help to Dade County authorities. (C) The United States Department of Justice found that, in 1989, there were 168,881 crimes of violence for which police had not responded within 1 hour. (D) Currently, there are about 150,000 police officers on duty at any one time. (2) Citizens frequently must use firearms to defend themselves, as evidenced by the following: (A) Every year, more than 2,400,000 people in the United States use a gun to defend themselves against criminals--or more than 6,500 people a day. This means that, each year, firearms are used 60 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives. (B) Of the 2,400,000 self-defense cases, more than 192,000 are by women defending themselves against sexual abuse. (C) Of the 2,400,000 times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, 92 percent merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8 percent of the time, does a citizen kill or wound his or her attacker. (3) Law-abiding citizens, seeking only to provide for their families' defense, are routinely prosecuted for brandishing or using a firearm in self- defense. For example: (A) In 1986, Don Bennett of Oak Park, Illinois, was shot at by 2 men who had just stolen $1,200 in cash and jewelry from his suburban Chicago service station. The police arrested Bennett for violating Oak Park's handgun ban. The police never caught the actual criminals. (B) Ronald Biggs, a resident of Goldsboro, North Carolina, was arrested for shooting an intruder in 1990. Four men broke into Biggs' residence one night, ransacked the home and then assaulted him with a baseball bat. When Biggs attempted to escape through the back door, the group chased him and Biggs turned and shot one of the assailants in the stomach. Biggs was arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon--a felony. His assailants were charged with misdemeanors. (C) Don Campbell of Port Huron, Michigan, was arrested, jailed, and criminally charged after he shot a criminal assailant in 1991. The thief had broken into Campbell's store and attacked him. The prosecutor plea-bargained with the assailant and planned to use him to testify against Campbell for felonious use of a firearm. Only after intense community pressure did the prosecutor finally drop the charges. (4) The courts have granted immunity from prosecution to police officers who use firearms in the line of duty. Similarly, law-abiding citizens who use firearms to protect themselves, their families, and their homes against violent felons should not be subject to lawsuits by the violent felons who sought to victimize them. SEC. 3. RIGHT TO OBTAIN FIREARMS FOR SECURITY, AND TO USE FIREARMS IN DEFENSE OF SELF, FAMILY, OR HOME; ENFORCEMENT. (a) REAFFIRMATION OF RIGHT- A person not prohibited from receiving a firearm by Public Law 90-351 shall have the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms-- (1) in defense of self or family against a reasonably perceived threat of imminent and unlawful infliction of serious bodily injury. (2) in defense of self or family in the course of the commission by another person of a violent felony against the person or a member of the person's family; and (3) in defense of the person's home in the course of the commission of a felony by another person. (b) FIREARM DEFINED- As used in subsection (a), the term `firearm' means-- (1) a shotgun (as defined in section 921(a)(5) of title 18, United States Code); (2) a rifle (as defined in section 921(a)(7) of title 18, United States Code); or (3) a handgun (as defined in section 10 of Public Law 99-408). (c) ENFORCEMENT OF RIGHT- (1) IN GENERAL- A person whose right under subsection (a) is violated in any manner may bring an action in any United States district court against the United States, any State, or any person for damages, injunctive relief, and such other relief as the court deems appropriate. (2) AUTHORITY TO AWARD A REASONABLE ATTORNEY'S FEE- In an action brought under paragraph (1), the court, in its discretion, may allow the prevailing plaintiff a reasonable attorney's fee as part of the costs. (3) STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS- An action may not be brought under paragraph (1) after the 5-year period that begins with the date the violation described in paragraph (1) is discovered. The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution. ---Doug McKay" Joe Sylvester Don't Tread On Me ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Summary Punishment Time Date: 11 Jan 1997 10:13:06 -0800 Dear America, As for all those politically incorrect electrons which are strobing your cathode ray tube, rumor has it that we are now entering: SUMMARY PUNISHMENT TIME! Yes, bring in the termination team, because we are going to ELECTROCUTE THOSE ELECTRONS!! /s/ Paul Mitchell copy: Star Chamber Hillarion ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: IO: Bankers/Barristers Blush Date: 11 Jan 1997 11:32:35 -0800 From the first edition of The Idaho Observer: Petros Winery Makes Boise Barristers And Bankers Blush by Don Harkins In 1991, owner/operator of Petros Winery Petro (Pete) Eliopulos introduced two "litigation aged" wines: Petros Boise Bankers Blush and Boise Barristers Blush. The bottled wine was aged for two years at the expense of West One bank while Eliopulos was forced to litigate what turned out to be frivolous charges made against him. "These wines are dedicated to a few select bankers and barristers of Boise who tried to take me on. Those really swell guys know who they are--and blush they should," said Eliopulos with a satisfied smile on his face. The Bankers and Barristers Blush wines are delivered with the subpoena "Maccum Drinccum" which demands of the recipient to assess the wine's character. Eliopulos described the wine's character to be exactly like those to whom it is dedicated. "The wine lacks backbone; it is limp, deceptive and has hints of cowardice and wimpiness; undertones of deceit arc across the palette and pucker the senses," a humorously snobbish-sounding Eliopulos explained. From 1986 until 1990 Eliopulos was forced to defend himself and his winery against a federal investigation because of a falsified "report of an apparent crime" which was filed by West One Bank's directors and attorneys. The bank-initiated federal investigation included the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (BATF), the FBI and the IRS. The bank-initiated federal investigation was apparently undertaken to force Eliopulos to drop the charges of racketeering and fraud he was pursuing against West One Bancorp, its directors, officers and attorneys (see October, 1996 edition of The Oregon Observer). The investigation of Eliopulos, however, exposed some less than ethical practices of bank Chairman Harry Knox and his sister Vice-Chairperson Ann Neavill. Knox and Neavill were summarily indicted and convicted of 36 counts of embezzlement and bank fraud and sent to federal penitentiaries as restitution for their crimes. The charges against Eliopulos were eventually determined to be without merit and dropped soon after Knox and Neavill were convicted. Eliopulos then successfully filed suit against the attorneys who had represented the bank and its officers while they forced him to litigate frivolous charges. Eliopulos was awarded a $1 million jury verdict against the directors and officers of the bank for illegal conversion in 1990. For four years Eliopulos endured tremendous pressures from the bank and its attorneys. According to Eliopulos, the tactics employed by the bank's attorneys were designed to break him mentally and economically. "The bank's attorneys attempted to force me into an involuntary bankruptcy for the illegal purpose of seizing my assets," said Eliopulos. "Four years of defending frivolous charges in court with my livelihood, my property and the lives my wife and children hanging in the balance was stressful beyond anything I have ever experienced in my life," Eliopulos said. Eliopulos, 50, a former All American linebacker at Fresno State University explained, "To relieve some of the pressure and stress of litigation, I got into the habit of lifting weights in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep." Lifting weights in the middle of the night not only helped Eliopulos deal with the stress of the frivolous litigation which was nothing more than a calculated attempt to destroy his winery, his family name and steal his assets in the process, it helped him to evolve the extremely humorous bankers and barristers blush plan. "I vowed to turn this litigation against me around and, when it was all over, I would dedicate a wine to the bankers and attorneys who tried, unsuccessfully, to ruin me," Eliopulos said with that peculiar smile returning to his face. "There is no way a person could survive a decade of complex litigation if he couldn't maintain his sense of humor," Eliopulos said. "The Bankers and Barristers Blush wines were my little kiss to the cowards and crooks who purposefully put my family through hell. If they can't take a joke, well..." "Wouldn't it be great if the Boise Barristers Blush was the featured wine at the Idaho State Bar Association's annual Barrister's Ball?" queried a mischievously grinning Eliopulos. Petros Bankers Blush and Petros Barristers Blush, complete with subpoenas, are available by special order from the Petros Winery. - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wootan@dmi.net Subject: HR 27 Date: 11 Jan 1997 13:08:25 -0800 This just out from me to Washington, D.C. I sure would like to hear that those of you in the other HR 27 sponsor's districts have done something similar. At least a "thank you" for HR 27 as it stands. Feel free to remove the personal parts and reuse if you wish. Jerry Wootan <---- Begin Included Message ----> Representative Chenowith, Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I just received a transcript of HR 27 IH (Citizens' Self Defense Act of 1997) from the ROC (Restore Our Constitution) list on the internet. All moves of this sort designed to move toward the restoration of our Constitution are badly needed. I am not in favor of adding many ammendments to bills, as they tend to "water down" the initial attempt. In this case, an appropriate ammendment is in order. Many businesses and governmental agencies have taken their perogative in a free country to ban the otherwise legal carry of weapons (concealed or otherwise) on their property. Additionally, many states still ban the defensive carry of a weapon. For some years now, I have favored the passage of a law that would assign responsibility for the safety of individuals to these banners. Should I decide to travel in Washington, D.C., New York, Hawaii, Hastings Book Stores, the U.S. Post office, Federal buildings, many state offices, or any number of other places, I am not permitted to protect myself or my family by carrying an otherwise legal concealed weapon. I feel strongly that these places have the right to ban my gun on their premisis, as this is their right in a free country. Yet, I feel that they should shoulder the responsibility of guaranteeing my safety. Accordingly, how about an ammendment, or separate bill that would assign full responsibility to these governments, or businesses who choose to eliminate my right to protect myself. This bill should assign a financial liability to any group who has restricted "right to carry". In this way, a courtroom could still ban guns, but would need a qualified armed gaurd. Airlines could also deny carry, but would need to protect law abiding citizens. Book stores could deny my right to self protection, but would find it financialy inappropriate. States, knowing that their police cannot protect all citizens, would be forced to permit concealed carry. The University of Chicago study on concealed carry states has clearly proven that this will reduce violent crime. I am sure you are well aware of this study by now, as your bill HR 27 makes some reference to it. It was my distinct honor to vote for you. Count on my vote again next time. Please note, I am also a customer of your friends at DMI Computers, Christy and Randy Oetken. Respectfully, Jerry Wootan Rt. 2 Box 670A Blanchard, Idaho 83804 (208)437-0122 Phone/Fax wootan@dmi.net <---- End Included Message ----> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: oyishea@teleport.com Date: 11 Jan 1997 20:48:01 -0800 Forwarding to the list in hopes of advice. I may have screwed up, but hopefully at least we can learn from it. >I was wondering if I can ask your advice on a "situation". > I'll try to make it a short story. > Recently I went to work for a temp agency. They are a >national based out of Californian. I am in Oregon. On my initial >interview they gave me a W-4 to fill out. I respectfully declined >and presented them with a copy of 26USC 31.3402(p) Voluntary >Agreements. After the usual "You have to fill this out to work" >etc. it still went unfilled. > About two weeks later they called for me to start an assignment. >On the morning of thefirst assignment I was met at the client's office > by someone from the temp agency. Onceagain I was asked to fill out a >W-4. Once again I declined. I tried the "confused" approach i.e. >"You are telling me something contrary to my interpretation of this >law. I'm confused. Please show me the law that says I have to fill >this out..." etc. It became apparent that I wasn't going to be >allowed to work without signing something, I pulled out the >substitute W-8 I received from you and an Statement of Exemption >from Withholding. This was accepted and I was allowed to go to work. > Some questions were asked of me by the people in the Portland >office of this temp agency. The answers and all that I had given them >was forwarded on to the main office in California which is where legal > & payroll is. This is where the paycheck that I received came from. > Do my dismay, I opened the check to find that they had withheld >Federal and State withholding as well as FICA, which is clearly illegal. > A small consolation is that they used my phone number for a SSN (which >was not provided). I will be writing a letter to them this evening >questioning where they get the authority to take money from me without >my consent, etc., etc.... > > Some questions... > >1) What do I do! ;-) (I have a plan, but I was just >wondering what you can add). > >2) Can I cash the check? Normally I wouldn't and return it, >but my family really needs the money, hence my desperation to work. > >3) Did I follow the proper procedure? > >I look forward to anything you can add to this. > >Still learning, >Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: oyishea@teleport.com Subject: Filed a W-8 & look what happened! Date: 11 Jan 1997 20:48:58 -0800 Forwarding to the list in hopes of advice. I may have screwed up, but hopefully at least we can learn from it. >I was wondering if I can ask your advice on a "situation". > I'll try to make it a short story. > Recently I went to work for a temp agency. They are a >national based out of Californian. I am in Oregon. On my initial >interview they gave me a W-4 to fill out. I respectfully declined >and presented them with a copy of 26USC 31.3402(p) Voluntary >Agreements. After the usual "You have to fill this out to work" >etc. it still went unfilled. > About two weeks later they called for me to start an assignment. >On the morning of thefirst assignment I was met at the client's office > by someone from the temp agency. Onceagain I was asked to fill out a >W-4. Once again I declined. I tried the "confused" approach i.e. >"You are telling me something contrary to my interpretation of this >law. I'm confused. Please show me the law that says I have to fill >this out..." etc. It became apparent that I wasn't going to be >allowed to work without signing something, I pulled out the >substitute W-8 I received from you and an Statement of Exemption >from Withholding. This was accepted and I was allowed to go to work. > Some questions were asked of me by the people in the Portland >office of this temp agency. The answers and all that I had given them >was forwarded on to the main office in California which is where legal > & payroll is. This is where the paycheck that I received came from. > Do my dismay, I opened the check to find that they had withheld >Federal and State withholding as well as FICA, which is clearly illegal. > A small consolation is that they used my phone number for a SSN (which >was not provided). I will be writing a letter to them this evening >questioning where they get the authority to take money from me without >my consent, etc., etc.... > > Some questions... > >1) What do I do! ;-) (I have a plan, but I was just >wondering what you can add). > >2) Can I cash the check? Normally I wouldn't and return it, >but my family really needs the money, hence my desperation to work. > >3) Did I follow the proper procedure? > >I look forward to anything you can add to this. > >Still learning, >Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Filed a W-8 & look what happened! Date: 12 Jan 1997 06:00:40 -0800 At 08:48 PM 1/11/97 -0800, you wrote: >Forwarding to the list in hopes of advice. I may have screwed up, >but hopefully at least we can learn from it. > >>I was wondering if I can ask your advice on a "situation". >> I'll try to make it a short story. >> Recently I went to work for a temp agency. They are a >>national based out of Californian. I am in Oregon. On my initial >>interview they gave me a W-4 to fill out. I respectfully declined >>and presented them with a copy of 26USC 31.3402(p) Voluntary >>Agreements. After the usual "You have to fill this out to work" >>etc. it still went unfilled. >> About two weeks later they called for me to start an assignment. >>On the morning of thefirst assignment I was met at the client's office >> by someone from the temp agency. Onceagain I was asked to fill out a >>W-4. Once again I declined. I tried the "confused" approach i.e. >>"You are telling me something contrary to my interpretation of this >>law. I'm confused. Please show me the law that says I have to fill >>this out..." etc. It became apparent that I wasn't going to be >>allowed to work without signing something, I pulled out the >>substitute W-8 I received from you and an Statement of Exemption >>from Withholding. This was accepted and I was allowed to go to work. >> Some questions were asked of me by the people in the Portland >>office of this temp agency. The answers and all that I had given them >>was forwarded on to the main office in California which is where legal >> & payroll is. This is where the paycheck that I received came from. >> Do my dismay, I opened the check to find that they had withheld >>Federal and State withholding as well as FICA, which is clearly illegal. >> A small consolation is that they used my phone number for a SSN (which >>was not provided). I will be writing a letter to them this evening >>questioning where they get the authority to take money from me without >>my consent, etc., etc.... Mail then a formal NOTICE AND DEMAND, via Certified U.S. Mail, return receipt requested, and restricted delivery requested (or Registered), demanding to see the legal authority they used to put your phone number in the place of a SSN, and provide an affidavit to them that you did not authorize them to do same, and the Privacy Act prohibits them from requiring you to disclose a SSN. Give them a 10 day deadline, and then file an affidavit of default on them if and when they default. /s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> Some questions... >> >>1) What do I do! ;-) (I have a plan, but I was just >>wondering what you can add). >> >>2) Can I cash the check? Normally I wouldn't and return it, >>but my family really needs the money, hence my desperation to work. Endorse it "All Rights Reserved", and then send them a bill for the rest. Without a W-4, they are not "withholding agents," because you never authorized them to withhold. They are now liable for unlawful conversion. The authority for withholding comes from the worker. /s/ Paul Mitchell >> >>3) Did I follow the proper procedure? You did fairly well. There is no silver bullet here. 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Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack@minerva.com Subject: ET on Austrailian Gun buyback Date: 12 Jan 1997 13:33:14 PST Firearm-ban cash pays for new guns By Chris Oliver Wilson ET THE Australian government's campaign to disarm its gun-owning population has descended into farce. Firearm owners are collecting generous compensation for handing in newly-banned guns, then buying equally lethal but legal weapons with the cash. The gun-lobby's success in evading the ban is making a mockery of legislation passed in the wake of the massacre of 35 people in Port Arthur, Tasmania, by the lone gunman, Martin Bryant, last April. Gun dealers across the country have been inundated with shooting enthusiasts brandishing government compensation cheques, often worth thousands of pounds. They are buying powerful new lever-action and bolt-action rifles which have ranges of up to 400 metres. "It is a fiasco," said Colin Elkington, a New South Wales gun-dealer whose sales have soared. "Many owners are handing in banned guns and buying 10-shot repeating firearms of the same calibre. They're as lethal and not a lot slower to reload than the prohibited semi-automatic guns. The government is wasting its money." Around 250,000 of the four million firearms in public ownership have already been handed in, and £60 million paid out. Mr Elkington estimates that more than 150,000 new guns will be bought with the money. The government has budgeted £250 million for the disarmament programme. The money is being raised by a special levy of £15 on every adult. Olly Westcott, a fencing contractor from Perth, Western Australia, handed in his pump-action shotgun last week in exchange for $600 (£283). His next stop on receiving the money was Doug Barnes's Gun Mart, where he admired a Swift .22 bolt-action rifle with a view to buying one later on. Mr Westcott is convinced that behind the federal government's campaign lies a hidden agenda. "They want Australia gun-free in the build-up to it becoming a republic," he said, conspiratorially. "This is a way of controlling the population. Next they'll clamp down on fishing." According to Mr Westcott, the measures will not stop another massacre like that at Port Arthur, which shocked Australia as much as the Dunblane school tragedy did Britain. Many relatives of the victims of the Port Arthur killings feel that the new laws do not go far enough. Jenny Tibbenham, 34, whose mother Winifred was gunned down when Bryant went on the rampage, said: "Only country people should have guns and then only one-shot weapons." The implementation of the new measures has also been criticised. Rebecca Peters, chairman of the main anti-firearms lobby, the National Coalition for Gun Control, said: "The states don't work together and they don't like to feel they are being put under pressure by anyone." Regional rivalry between the governments of the country's eight states has created confusion and resentment, with widely-differing timetables and mechanisms for public disarmament. The police ministers of all eight states were called to a meeting last year with John Howard, the federal prime minister, who persuaded them to adopt anti-gun legislation. But the politicians' zeal for the measures was deflated when they found the strength of opposition at home, especially in rural Queensland, Western Australia and Northern Territory. Bob Wiese, who was Western Australia's police minister until he lost his job in a reshuffle last week, defended the government's efforts. "The buy-back scheme has worked brilliantly," he claimed. Russell Cooper, the police minister for Queensland, said the prime minister's plans were flawed with "massive logistical problems". He claimed Mr Howard was "enjoying a position of all care and no responsibility". His state has been the last to press ahead with the buy-back scheme which is only starting now, four months late. But Miss Peters said: "Guns are being handed in. Whatever they claim, most Australians only had them to impress their friends or for protection in the event of invasion by aliens." She said that at the end of the "buy-back" scheme this September, the government would probably turn its attention to firearm registration, and owners of new guns could end up having them confiscated. But there will be intense resistance to a further clampdown, particularly in the outback. In Crocodile Dundee country farmers argue, however implausibly, that they need semi-automatic weapons to protect themselves against wild pigs. Jack Perrine | ATHENA Programming, Inc | 818-798-6574 | ---------------- | 1175 No. Altadena Drive | fax 398-8620 | jack@minerva.com | Pasadena, CA 91107 US | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: (fwd)Why is Clinton persecuting me? Date: 12 Jan 1997 17:03:18 -0500 >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 14:17:40 -0500 >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >Subject: Why is Clinton persecuting me? > > >Sunday Telegraph 12 January 1997 > >Why is Clinton persecuting me? >By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard > >In a 331-page report, released last week by the Legal Counsel's Office, >it described a conspiracy "food chain" in which a putative >right-wing cabal led by the reclusive heir to the Mellon banking >fortune, Richard Mellon Scaife, skilfully feeds material to London >newspapers. > >"The stories get picked up overseas, typically in London, typically by >one particular reporter," explained the White House Press Secretary, >Michael McCurry, without naming the scoundrel responsible. They are, of >course, referring to me. > >>From London, according to "The Communication Stream of Conspiracy >Commerce", as this astonishing report is called, these wild inventions >then make their way back across the Atlantic through a network of >Right-wing conduits, ultimately reaching the mainstream US media. This >is known as the "blow-back" strategy. > >What seems to cause intense frustration at the White House is the >emergence of a new mass media that does not respond to the >usual levers of control. A foreign newspaper such as The Sunday >Telegraph can run stories that are picked up by the Internet and >transmitted instantly across America. > >The radio talk shows - predominantly Right-wing - then provide broader >amplification, ensuring that the stories reach 10, 20, 30 >million people. The White House is clearly alert to the dangers posed by >this samizdat network, but has not figured out a way to >jam the transmissions. > >So it has resorted instead to shameless propaganda. The report refers to >The Sunday Telegraph throughout as a "Right-wing tabloid", even though >it is sold in hotels and news-stands all over Washington. Most of what >it says about my work for The Telegraph is either untrue or >misrepresented to the point of defamation. It accuses me of promoting >the allegation that the late Vincent Foster, a White House aide, was a >spy, lumping me in with those who claim that he was caught selling >nuclear secrets to Israel. > >In fact, as the White House knows well, I have explicitly rejected the >espionage story as far-fetched. > >What is true is that I asked whether Foster might have done some >sensitive work for the US government before joining the White >House staff, but that is an entirely different matter. That such a >shoddy document could be issued by the legal counsel's office, at >taxpayers' expense, offers an insight into the intellectual and moral >calibre of the people who surround this President. > >Of course, it was never intended that the "food-chain" report would >fall into the hands of the wrong people. The documents were >prepared in the autumn of 1995 for use by friendly journalists, who >were encouraged to use the material as a crib sheet for hostile >articles on the tiny group of journalists investigating Foster's death. > >A few reporters have allowed themselves to be used for this purpose. It >was not until the Wall Street Journal revealed the existence >of the report last Monday that the White House released it to the rest >of the press. There is no precedent for the White House >drawing up a written list of enemy journalists and their supposed >sponsors. After combing through the report, I can only conclude >that the Clintons were in panic in July 1995, when Newt Gingrich, the >Speaker of the House of Representatives, announced that >he was going to open his own investigation into Foster's death. > >It appears that the "food-chain" report was drafted - in part, at least >- in order to discredit two revelations about the Foster case that were >acquiring dangerous momentum in the United States. Or as the White House >Press Secretary put it on Thursday: "We're trying to protect people from >getting a bunch of bad stories in their papers . . . We'd say, 'Wait a >minute, you guys are chasing a story that had very, very suspicious >roots'." > >One of the targets was a story published in The Sunday Telegraph on >April 9, 1995. It explored evidence suggesting that the White >House had been given an early tip-off about the death of Foster and had >then falsified the official record to cover this up. The >White House's frenzied reaction to this article suggests that The Sunday >Telegraph may have stumbled on to something of acute >significance. > >The story was based on my interviews with medical personnel at the crime >scene, FBI witness statements, and the notes of police >investigators. It also reported that three men in Arkansas - two state >troopers and the former commander of the state police - had >signed affidavits claiming that they heard about Foster's death >suspiciously early. > >They said that a young White House aide, Helen Dickey, called the >Governor's Mansion in Little Rock to relay the tragic news at >least an hour and a half before the White House was supposedly notified. >The "food-chain" report does not attempt to rebut the >allegations, except to say that Dickey remembers making the telephone >call much later in the evening. Instead it dismisses the article >as the "rantings of the fringe" and seeks to impugn the motives of the >two state troopers. > >It then goes on to describe how the story was picked up by the >"conspiracy-theory fanatics" on the Internet and was ultimately >given "unwarranted legitimacy" by Congressional investigators. Another >target of the report is Strategic Investment, an Anglo-American >newsletter co-published by Lord Rees-Mogg, a former editor of The Times, >which commissioned three handwriting experts to examine the Foster >"suicide note". Each of the three, working independently, came to the >conclusion that the note was a forgery. > >One expert was Reginald Alton, an Oxford professor, but the report does >not mention him. Instead it implies that the finding was >based on the work of a single man, Ronald Rice of Boston, who is >labelled a "fraud". > >Once again, it seems that the White House is willing deliberately to >propagate outright lies. It must know from culling the press >accounts on this story - if nothing else - that Rice has worked on a >number of famous cases as a hand-writing expert, including the >Boston Strangler case and most recently as a consultant for CNN on the >O. J. Simpson case. > >The White House does not try to argue with the analysis of the experts. >It simply states that the report of the independent counsel, >Robert Fiske, based on the work of the FBI, had authenticated the note, >as if that were argument enough. > >But the whole point of the Strategic Investment allegation is that the >FBI did not conduct a proper analysis of the Foster note. The >FBI relied on a single sample of Foster's writing, even though it is >standard procedure to use a wide mix of samples. (The FBI >also examined Foster's signature on 17 cheques - which is no >substitute). > >The report has now blown up in their faces. 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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: "The Freeman Tentacle" Date: 12 Jan 1997 22:12:02 -0800 Dear America, There you have it! Three little words, and two double quotation marks. /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: "The Freeman Tentacle" Date: 12 Jan 1997 17:24:03 PST On Jan 12, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: >Dear America, > >There you have it! > >Three little words, >and two double >quotation marks. > >/s/ Paul Mitchell I wouldn't touch that with someone _elses_ ten foot tentacle! :-) -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: Re: ET on Austrailian Gun buyback Date: 13 Jan 1997 06:12:00 -0500 (EST) On Sun, 12 Jan 1997 Jack@minerva.com wrote: > Firearm-ban cash pays for new guns > By Chris Oliver Wilson > ET > > > THE Australian government's campaign to disarm its > gun-owning population has descended into farce. > > Firearm owners are collecting generous compensation for > handing in newly-banned guns, then buying equally lethal but > legal weapons with the cash. The gun-lobby's success in > evading the ban is making a mockery of legislation passed in > the wake of the massacre of 35 people in Port Arthur, > Tasmania, by the lone gunman, Martin Bryant, last April. > > Gun dealers across the country have been inundated with > shooting enthusiasts brandishing government compensation > cheques, often worth thousands of pounds. They are buying > powerful new lever-action and bolt-action rifles which have > ranges of up to 400 metres. 400 metres. Is that all? bd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Re: "The Freeman Tentacle" Date: 13 Jan 1997 07:12:17 -0800 Paul Mitchell appends clarification: At 05:24 PM 1/12/97 PST, you wrote: >On Jan 12, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > >>Dear America, >> >>There you have it! >> >>Three little words, >>and two double >>quotation marks. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell > >I wouldn't touch that with someone _elses_ ten foot tentacle! :-) > >-- >An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep >weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your >hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder >on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. Dear Friends, Please excuse the strange appearances on this message. I was in the middle of upgrading my system software, and I was testing two different machines, when this all-important newspaper article came across from Harvey Wysong. Rather than to share my thoughts too widely, I want you to consider my comments here very carefully, and then to respond as soon as you can. The tax and monetary system is so important to the feds, they will do almost anything to keep it afloat, even though it is under very heavy, probably fatal attack right now, in People v. United States, and in other cases. I have my reasons for believing that Randy Parsons in the Freedom Center is deep cover. It may also be that Leroy Schweitzer is very deep cover as well. I am almost certain that Elizabeth Broderick is a federal informant; we have an admission to that effect from a man who has me under surveillance. Now, if you will read the following article very carefully, you will find that there is in place a DOJ task force to track down all the warrants that Schweitzer issued. That has been one of the key elements to my hypothesis all along: use warrants to infiltrate the freedom movement. Now, I was very hot on the trial up there in Billings, and I was evidently TOO close to busting the entire scam. This became evident to me as I shared with Randy my beliefs about Broderick, and my experiences with her and her associates. Those were not Patriots who flocked around her; those were low-level operatives who got scared when I came on the scene. Broderick probably brought me in to test their security; it broke fairly fast, under the kinds of scrutiny which I brought to her cases (2 civil and 1 criminal). Now, factor in our recent finding that the "queen pin" in Los Angeles is one Nora Manella, who is not a U.S. Attorney, on written admission by certain DOJ officials. Broderick is a federal informant, on open admission by a "Libertarian" activist who is now tailing me all over Arizona, and the Internet. Now, take a look at this from an entirely different angle. I am one of only a few people in this country who has gotten very deeply into both Broderick's and Schweitzer's cases. In both instances, I was ushered out, politely in the latter case, abruptly in the former case; don't forget the tampered brakes, and the gutted legal office I had built, and the $10,000 in legal fees the Freedom Center has refused to pay, and the material evidence now stuck up there (the Zolton letter, for example). A long time ago I had this vision that FRN's would become like an AIDS virus. I had no idea how relevant that idea would some day become. The warrants which Schweitzer and Broderick (and Crawford) were issuing were marked bills; with the proper coordination among the nation's banks, all of that commercial paper would connect federal prosecutors with the "enemy," namely, Americans who were aware of the banking and taxing fraud, and who were gutsy enough to try clearing a warrant through that very same banking system, come what may. Is it any wonder that I would be systematically stiffed of ALL my legal fees for the past year, during which time I spent many hours working these (and related) cases? Don't forget, by law, my pleadings MUST be served on the Attorney General and on the Solicitor General, because I ALWAYS find one or more federal statutes which are obviously unconstitutional, e.g. the blanket FOIA exemption for the judiciary (as a case in point; there are many others, like the oxymoron "illegal tax protester"). Now, when I break Crawford one morning, by telling him that I intend to testify against Broderick, he had two choices: flow with the discovery, or blow up for being fingered. He chose the latter. Now, quite by "coincidence," he has been "extradited" to Oregon, or Washington state, or who knows where. I believe he is debriefing DOJ about what I actually do know, and what my plans are. Crawford had no idea I would land the Ray Looker case, where the defendant has chosen to implement the plan completely, with very effective and amazing results. The attorneys on both sides are buried in paperwork, and the courts are running scared, because every government employee who touches Ray's case knows s/he has already become a RICO defendant, in a court of competent jurisdiction -- the District Court of the United States. What do you know? Now, by attacking the Jury Selection and Service Act broadside, we will bury the government's last ditch in the ground war: they will no longer be able to tamper with juries and get wired verdicts. Their ground troops are standing naked in the sun, with nowhere to hide, no bullets, and no weapons, except to villify the enemy. Notice how people who post all kinds of garbage about rapes, murders, mental sickness, disease, and death, are allowed to post freely. But, Paul Mitchell comes along, without so much as a single four-letter word, and he is getting villified as if he had hacked his entire neighborhood into a million pieces with a machete, and then drank their blood after mixing it with celery and carrots in his blender. Don't forget the tobasco sauce. If you don't see the pattern by now, I really do NOT know how I will ever be able to explain the whole thing to you. You must have special ears to hear "The Overtone" (a title for a book I want to write some day). The "overtone" is the extra sound which two slightly discordant tones will create in the air -- a third oscillation which is the product of the first two. It is really there, but it is being "synthesized" by the other two. So, here's the Modus Operandi: offer "expert" classes on the tax and monetary system. A "bonus" of class attendance is the knowledge to issue warrants, or to buy them from the experts. Those warrants clear the banking system, initially, giving them the appearance of integrity. The bank officials are on notice to forward them to the FBI, who in turn bring them directly to key prosecutors, like -- you guessed it -- Nora Manella, sitting in one of the driving positions, high atop the federal building in downtown Los Angeles, one of the largest cities in the world. Upon landing there, those warrants have attached to them all kinds of "assets," like banks, bank accounts, credit card accounts, home loans, and so on, and so on. If you are Nora Manella, you now have your choice of turkeys to shoot, and eat. They are more like sitting ducks, actually; and your deep cover agents, like Broderick, Parsons, and Schweitzer (maybe?) know that there is a pot of gold awaiting them at the end of the rainbow, if they will just go along with the program for a few more months. "Paul, we'll have to pay you by selling some (live)stock." That became their "stock" answer. Simple, really. Shall I forward this memo to Kenneth Starr? Or, shall we have some fun on the Internet with all of this stuff first, before those indictments "drop" out of the sky, like the bowling ball we all released from the center of our favorite bridge? /s/ Paul Mitchell >X-Sender: hwysong@mindspring.com >Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 13:37:35 -0500 >To: hwysong@mindspring.com >From: Harvey Wysong >Subject: via Kevin: DMN-Freemen Links > >Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 08:05:17 -0500 From: believer@telepath.com (by way >of kocjmb@avana.net) > >>From the "Dallas Morning News" Online: > >Authorities study links in fraud cases >By Thomas G. Watts / The Dallas Morning News 01/11/97 > > The Freemen of Montana have unwittingly helped prosecutors across the >nation target anti-government lawbreakers. > > Authorities in at least 23 states have charged or are investigating >people with ties to the Freemen - who surrendered last June after an 81-day >stand-off with the FBI - for conspiracy and fraud. > > Many of the cases involve the 800 or so people who took classes at the >remote Freemen ranch in central Montana on issuing bogus money orders, >liens and other financial instruments - the same practices that brought the >Freemen to the attention of the authorities. Federal wiretaps and documents >found at the Freeman ranch, as well as complaints from businesses, >government agencies and individuals, also sparked investigations. > > The Dallas Morning News identified 65 criminal cases or investigations >involving 151 people with Freemen ties in those 23 states through >government records, reports by monitoring agencies, and other sources. > > The cases examined by The News involved phony financial instruments that >could have totaled $2.17 billion if they had been used successfully. Most >were not. > > U.S. Justice Department spokesman John Russell said the agency's fraud >section is aware of 18 investigations throughout the United States. In >addition, he said, there may be inquiries by other federal agencies and >state agencies. > > Federal prosecutors, who are handling most of the cases, declined to >discuss details of what evidence they have gathered. > > Freemen prosecutors in Montana, however, have readily shared the >information with other law enforcement agencies around the country. > > "There is evidence that has been developed in our case that has been >made available to other jurisdictions," said Sherry Matteucci, the Montana >U.S. attorney who is prosecuting the Freemen. > > "We have, of course, a system of coordination between U.S. attorneys and >other law enforcement agencies . . . and regularly share information," she >added. > > In some cases, the Freemen ties were discovered during investigations >that were already under way. > > Freemen leader LeRoy M. Schweitzer, who taught the classes, believed >that the money orders he could spin out of a home computer and laser >printer were as legitimate as those purchased at a bank. He said the >banking system was illegal and not supported by real money since the nation >went off the gold standard in 1933. He also asserted that the Federal >Reserve system was unconstitutional. > > That philosophy is shared by many in the anti-government or Patriot >movement - particularly tax protesters. > > Some money orders that were printed in the Freemen mold were used to pay >federal, state and local taxes. Others were passed to businesses and >individuals to pay bills and cover purchases. > > Some of the liens were filed against property owned by public officials >or private companies. > > One of those who reportedly attended a Freemen class was former >Waxahachie developer F.R. "Johnny" Johnston. > > He was sentenced by a Dallas federal judge last year to eight years in >prison for his role in distributing $61 million in phony money orders. Five >other men from Texas, Pennsylvania and Kansas also received jail terms in >that case. > > Mr. Johnston also was indicted by federal grand juries in Austin and >Milwaukee in similar scams. > > In Austin, he and six other men are charged with attempting to use phony >money orders to defraud the IRS. > > He was dropped from the Milwaukee case recently because of questions of >double jeopardy. Eight other people, however, were convicted of >distributing $64 million in bogus money orders in exchange for donations of >$100 to $500 to the Family Farm Preservation of Tigerton, Wis., federal >prosecutors said. > > State and federal officials are looking at another potential Texas case. > > A spokesman for state Attorney General Dan Morales said the agency is >looking at a transaction by leaders of the Republic of Texas movement last >fall. > > Republic officers contracted with an Austin jeweler to create silver >badges for their "rangers." As final payment, they sent the jeweler a >"warrant" for $3,946. Banks have refused to accept the "warrant." > > Mr. Russell of the Justice Department said one of the most notorious >Freemen students was M. Elizabeth Broderick of Los Angeles, who reportedly >attended a Schweitzer class in October, 1995. > > Back in California, she dubbed herself the "lien queen" and started her >own series of classes. By the time she was arrested last summer, federal >authorities said, she was making about $300,000 a month from running the >classes. And she claimed to have amassed $180 million through the liens and >money orders and had another $800 million of the instruments ready to sell >to her students and others. > > Some of those money orders were co-signed by Mr. Schweitzer - who also >signed similar financial instruments that are being investigated in other >parts of the country. > > Ms. Broderick was convicted of 26 counts of conspiracy and fraud in >October and faces about 20 years in prison. > > In Colorado last year, Freemen associates attempted to use a $750,000 >phony money order to buy eight Humvee all-terrain vehicles - like those >used in the Gulf War - for use on the Freemen ranch in Montana. The >automobile dealer refused to accept the money order, and 12 men were later >indicted on charges of forgery, theft and filing false liens. > > Others have tried - and occasionally succeeded - in paying federal and >state taxes with bogus money orders. Usually, they have sent a money order >for more than their tax bill and demanded a refund for the excess payment. >One Minnesota couple said they sent a money order for twice the amount of >their taxes and received a refund from the IRS. > > The mayor of a small Montana town declared it a "Freemen enclave" in >early 1995 and deposited $20 million in bogus money orders in the bank. >Bank officials refused to accept the deposit and the mayor was later ousted >in a recall vote. The case was referred to federal prosecutors. > > Last year, a Kansas couple were indicted in Oklahoma after trying to pay >off a $60,000 mortgage with a bogus money order for $180,000 that was >signed by Mr. Schweitzer. Karen and Bill Hanzlicek are set to go on trial >Jan. 21 on conspiracy and bank and mail fraud charges. > > Mrs. Hanzlicek was ordered held without bail last month after she told >reporters that "there would be some dead people" if law officers attempted >to arrest her. > > There are many other examples. > > In Montana, Mr. Schweitzer and 23 other people associated with the >Freemen are expected to go to trial in March, said Ms. Matteucci. > > Since their arrest last year, most have refused to work with their >court-appointed attorneys and have disrupted pre-trial hearings. > > They also have refused to allow themselves to be fingerprinted - though >the judge recently approved a request that federal marshals be allowed to >use "reasonable force" to obtain the prints. > > "I'm still trying to figure out what reasonable force is," Ms. Matteucci >said. "But we will get the fingerprints." > > Joe Roy, the head of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Klanwatch unit >that monitors extremist groups, said prosecutors are right to target the >Freemen disciples. > > "The big thing is that a lot of these guys are potentially dangerous," >Mr. Roy said. "They are at war with the United States, and the government >is starting to take them seriously." > > The associate director of the Anti-Defamation League's Washington >office, Michael Lieberman, urged the Justice Department to establish a task >force to concentrate on Freemen activities - similar to one set up in the >1980s to target the then-growing skinhead movement. > > "It's certainly an effective deterrent," Mr. Lieberman said. > > Mr. Russell of the Justice Department agreed that the threat of Freemen >and their fake financial instruments was real. > > "There is a Freemen tentacle throughout the country," he said. > > Copyright 1997 The Dallas Morning News > > ************************************************ >To subscribe or unsubscribe send mail to: caji-owner@pobox.com with: >(un)subscribe caji youremail@yourprovider.com in the body of the message. > >This post is forwarded from Kevin O'Connell. > > > > **************************************************** > TRIAL BY JURY PROTECTS ALL FREEDOMS > **************************************************** > "Decency, security and liberty alike demand that government > officials shall be subjected to the same rules of conduct that > are commands to the citizen. In a government of laws, > existence of the government will be imperiled if it fails to > observe the law scrupulously." > --Justice Louis D. Brandeis, dissenting, > Olmstead et al. v. United States, 277 U.S. 438, 485 (1928) > **************************************************** > Harvey Wysong > National Spokesman, Fully Informed Jury Association > 701 Longleaf Drive, Atlanta, Georgia 30342, U.S.A. > hwysong@mindspring.com (404) 266-0930 > **************************************************** > > > =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neil@jove.geol.niu.edu (Neil Dickey) Subject: Re: ET on Austrailian Gun buyback Date: 13 Jan 1997 12:10:03 -0600 Brad Dolan wrote: >On Sun, 12 Jan 1997 Jack@minerva.com wrote: > >> Firearm-ban cash pays for new guns >> By Chris Oliver Wilson >> ET >> >> [ ... Snip ... ] >> >> Gun dealers across the country have been inundated with >> shooting enthusiasts brandishing government compensation >> cheques, often worth thousands of pounds. They are buying >> powerful new lever-action and bolt-action rifles which have >> ranges of up to 400 metres. > >400 metres. Is that all? The use of "smart bullets" has been mandated "down under" in a little- known codicil to the new gun laws. At 400 meters, this clever projectile simply disappears -- evaporates into thin air. There were concerns that the unscrupulous could manipulate this capability in order to foil forensic scientists, e.g. by modifying the bullet to disappear after having been used to shoot somebody dead, but it was included in the final version of the law after the sponsor gave an impassioned speach on the floor of Parliament, which began "If it saves just *one* life ...." The opinions which I have expressed herein are entirely my own, unless other- wise noted. No-one else should be held responsible for what I think. | D. N. Dickey | Virtuous motives, trammeled by inertia and | | Research Associate | timidity, are no match for armed and | | Northern Illinois Univ. | resolute wickedness. | | neil@earth.geol.niu.edu | - W. S. Churchill | | **Finger for public key** | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Why Did the Chicken Cross the Road? Date: 13 Jan 1997 08:45:27 -0800 From Linda Thompson (originally from texan@ghg.net (Charles Nagy) - >"Why did the chicken cross the road?" >------------------------------------- > > Bill Clinton: > Because Republicans want to starve schoolchildren and > pollute the environment. > > Hillary Clinton: > I'm sorry, I don't recall. > > Plato: > For the greater good. > > Karl Marx: > It was a historical inevitability. > > Thomas de Torquemada: > Give me ten minutes with the chicken and I'll find > out. > > Timothy Leary: > Because that's the only kind of trip the Establishment > would let it take. > > Douglas Adams: > Forty-two. > > Hillary Clinton: > I'm sorry, I can't quite remember the answer to that. > > Albert Einstein: > Whether the chicken crossed the road or the road > crossed the chicken depends upon your frame of > reference. > > Epicurus: > For fun. > > Ralph Waldo Emerson: > It didn't cross the road; it transcended it. > > Ernest Hemingway: > To die. In the rain. > > Hillary Clinton: > I don't recall. > > David Hume: > Out of custom and habit. > > Saddam Hussein: > This was an unprovoked act of rebellion and we were > quite justified in dropping 50 tons of nerve gas on > it. > > Hazel O'Leary: > The Air Force was only too happy to provide the > transportation, so quite understandably the chicken > availed himself of the opportunity. > > The Sphinx: > You tell me. > > Sappho: > Due to the loveliness of the hen on the other side, > more fair than all of Hellas' fine armies. > > Henry David Thoreau: > To live deliberately ... and suck all the marrow out > of life. > > Hillary Clinton: > I'm sorry, my recollection of that has faded. > > Mark Twain: > The news of its crossing has been greatly exaggerated. > > Captain James T. Kirk: > To boldly go where no chicken has gone before. > > Dan Rather: > It was Ronald Reagan's fault. > > Andersen Consultant: > Deregulation of the chicken's side of the road was > threatening its dominant market position. The chicken > was faced with significant challenges to create and > develop the competencies required for the newly > competitive market. Andersen Consulting, in a > partnering relationship with the client, helped the > chicken by rethinking its physical distribution > strategy and implementation processes. Using the > Poultry Integration Model (PIM) Andersen helped the > chicken use its skills, methodologies, knowledge > capital and experiences to align the chicken's people, > processes and technology in support of its overall > strategy within a Program Management framework. > Andersen Consulting convened a diverse cross-spectrum > of road analysts and best chickens along with Andersen > consultants with deep skills in the transportation > industry to engage in a two-day itinerary of meetings > in order to leverage their personal knowledge capital, > both tacit and explicit, and to enable them to > synergize with each other in order to achieve the > implicit goals of delivering and successfully > architecting and implementing an enterprise-wide value > framework across the continuum of poultry cross-median > processes. The meeting was held in a park like > setting enabling and creating an impactful environment > which was strategically based, industry-focused, and > built upon a consistent, clear, and unified market > message and aligned with the chicken's mission, > vision, and core values. This was conducive towards > the creation of a total business integration solution. > Andersen Consulting helped the chicken change to > become more successful. > > Johnny Cochran: > The chicken didn't cross the road. It was framed by a > turkey! > > Robert Reisch: > Because the minimum wage wasn't high enough. > > Hillary Clinton: > I don't remember. - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: piml] Why is Clinton persecuting me? (fwd) Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:03:41 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Sunday Telegraph 12 January 1997 Why is Clinton persecuting me? By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard In a 331-page report, released last week by the Legal Counsel's Office, it described a conspiracy "food chain" in which a putative right-wing cabal led by the reclusive heir to the Mellon banking fortune, Richard Mellon Scaife, skilfully feeds material to London newspapers. "The stories get picked up overseas, typically in London, typically by one particular reporter," explained the White House Press Secretary, Michael McCurry, without naming the scoundrel responsible. They are, of course, referring to me. >From London, according to "The Communication Stream of Conspiracy Commerce", as this astonishing report is called, these wild inventions then make their way back across the Atlantic through a network of Right-wing conduits, ultimately reaching the mainstream US media. This is known as the "blow-back" strategy. What seems to cause intense frustration at the White House is the emergence of a new mass media that does not respond to the usual levers of control. A foreign newspaper such as The Sunday Telegraph can run stories that are picked up by the Internet and transmitted instantly across America. The radio talk shows - predominantly Right-wing - then provide broader amplification, ensuring that the stories reach 10, 20, 30 million people. The White House is clearly alert to the dangers posed by this samizdat network, but has not figured out a way to jam the transmissions. So it has resorted instead to shameless propaganda. The report refers to The Sunday Telegraph throughout as a "Right-wing tabloid", even though it is sold in hotels and news-stands all over Washington. Most of what it says about my work for The Telegraph is either untrue or misrepresented to the point of defamation. It accuses me of promoting the allegation that the late Vincent Foster, a White House aide, was a spy, lumping me in with those who claim that he was caught selling nuclear secrets to Israel. In fact, as the White House knows well, I have explicitly rejected the espionage story as far-fetched. What is true is that I asked whether Foster might have done some sensitive work for the US government before joining the White House staff, but that is an entirely different matter. That such a shoddy document could be issued by the legal counsel's office, at taxpayers' expense, offers an insight into the intellectual and moral calibre of the people who surround this President. Of course, it was never intended that the "food-chain" report would fall into the hands of the wrong people. The documents were prepared in the autumn of 1995 for use by friendly journalists, who were encouraged to use the material as a crib sheet for hostile articles on the tiny group of journalists investigating Foster's death. A few reporters have allowed themselves to be used for this purpose. It was not until the Wall Street Journal revealed the existence of the report last Monday that the White House released it to the rest of the press. There is no precedent for the White House drawing up a written list of enemy journalists and their supposed sponsors. After combing through the report, I can only conclude that the Clintons were in panic in July 1995, when Newt Gingrich, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, announced that he was going to open his own investigation into Foster's death. It appears that the "food-chain" report was drafted - in part, at least - in order to discredit two revelations about the Foster case that were acquiring dangerous momentum in the United States. Or as the White House Press Secretary put it on Thursday: "We're trying to protect people from getting a bunch of bad stories in their papers . . . We'd say, 'Wait a minute, you guys are chasing a story that had very, very suspicious roots'." One of the targets was a story published in The Sunday Telegraph on April 9, 1995. It explored evidence suggesting that the White House had been given an early tip-off about the death of Foster and had then falsified the official record to cover this up. The White House's frenzied reaction to this article suggests that The Sunday Telegraph may have stumbled on to something of acute significance. The story was based on my interviews with medical personnel at the crime scene, FBI witness statements, and the notes of police investigators. It also reported that three men in Arkansas - two state troopers and the former commander of the state police - had signed affidavits claiming that they heard about Foster's death suspiciously early. They said that a young White House aide, Helen Dickey, called the Governor's Mansion in Little Rock to relay the tragic news at least an hour and a half before the White House was supposedly notified. The "food-chain" report does not attempt to rebut the allegations, except to say that Dickey remembers making the telephone call much later in the evening. Instead it dismisses the article as the "rantings of the fringe" and seeks to impugn the motives of the two state troopers. It then goes on to describe how the story was picked up by the "conspiracy-theory fanatics" on the Internet and was ultimately given "unwarranted legitimacy" by Congressional investigators. Another target of the report is Strategic Investment, an Anglo-American newsletter co-published by Lord Rees-Mogg, a former editor of The Times, which commissioned three handwriting experts to examine the Foster "suicide note". Each of the three, working independently, came to the conclusion that the note was a forgery. One expert was Reginald Alton, an Oxford professor, but the report does not mention him. Instead it implies that the finding was based on the work of a single man, Ronald Rice of Boston, who is labelled a "fraud". Once again, it seems that the White House is willing deliberately to propagate outright lies. It must know from culling the press accounts on this story - if nothing else - that Rice has worked on a number of famous cases as a hand-writing expert, including the Boston Strangler case and most recently as a consultant for CNN on the O. J. Simpson case. The White House does not try to argue with the analysis of the experts. It simply states that the report of the independent counsel, Robert Fiske, based on the work of the FBI, had authenticated the note, as if that were argument enough. But the whole point of the Strategic Investment allegation is that the FBI did not conduct a proper analysis of the Foster note. The FBI relied on a single sample of Foster's writing, even though it is standard procedure to use a wide mix of samples. (The FBI also examined Foster's signature on 17 cheques - which is no substitute). The report has now blown up in their faces. In their zeal to discredit critics, they have given a fresh lease of life to the very articles on Vincent Foster that caused them so much angst to begin with. They have been caught using the office of the presidency to run a smear campaign against journalists and political opponents, turning the White House into an adjunct of the Democratic National Committee. Even Richard Nixon, at the height of Watergate, was cautious not to venture so far out into these perilous waters. =A9 Copyright Telegraph Group Limited 1997. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D J.J. & Helen Johnson - Fridays - 8:00 pm EST - WWCR 5.070 Mhz E Pluribus Unum=20 P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 Web Site - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Interesting HR bills (fwd) Date: 14 Jan 1997 03:25:32 PST On Jan 13, Jason Seng wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Your tax dollars at work, folx! Go to THOMAS ( www.thomas.gov) and look up these bills to read 'em. ==================== H.R.339 SPONSOR: Rep Stearns, (introduced 01/07/97) A bill to amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a national standard in accordance with which nonresidents of a State may carry certain concealed firearms in the State, and to exempt qualified current and former law enforcement officers from State laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed handguns . ==================== H.R.12 SPONSOR: Rep Schumer, (introduced 01/07/97) A bill to prevent handgun violence and illegal commerce in handguns . ==================== H.R.115 SPONSOR: Rep Conyers, (introduced 01/07/97) A bill to prohibit the transfer of a firearm to, and the possession of a firearm by, a person who is intoxicated. ==================== H.R.186 SPONSOR: Rep Hastings, A., (introduced 01/07/97) A bill to provide for the mandatory registration of handguns . ==================== H.R.116 SPONSOR: Rep Conyers, (introduced 01/07/97) A bill to apply equal standards to certain foreign made and domestically produced handguns . ==================== H.R.361 SPONSOR: Rep Towns, (introduced 01/07/97) A bill to require the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban toys which in size, shape, or overall appearance resemble real handguns . ==================== H.R.445 SPONSOR: Rep Stupak, (introduced 01/09/97) A bill to provide that the firearms prohibitions applicable by reason of a domestic violence misdemeanor conviction do not apply to government entities. ==================== H.R.102 SPONSOR: Rep Barr, (introduced 01/07/97) A bill to require the national instant criminal background check system to be established and used in connection with firearms transfers by November 28, 1997. ==================== H.R.424 SPONSOR: Rep Myrick, (introduced 01/09/97) A bill to provide for increased mandatory minimum sentences for criminals possessing firearms , and for other purposes. ==================== H.R.26 SPONSOR: Rep Barr, (introduced 01/07/97) A bill to amend title 18, United States Code, to provide that the firearms prohibitions applicable by reason of a domestic violence misdemeanor conviction do not apply if the conviction occurrred before the prohibitions became law. ==================== H.R.27 SPONSOR: Rep Bartlett, (introduced 01/07/97) A bill to protect the right to obtain firearms for security, and to use firearms in defense of self, family, or home, and to provide for the enforcement of such right. ==================== H.R.218 SPONSOR: Rep Cunningham, (introduced 01/07/97) A bill to amend title 18, United States Code, to exempt qualified current and former law enforcement officers from State laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed handguns . Enjoy, J-Sun /===============================\/============================\ ! Four boxes: ! "You're just a gaggle of ! ! Soap, ballot, jury, ammo. ! pathetically mis-guided ! ! Use in that order. ! root diggers!" - The Brain ! \===============================/\============================/ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Libertarians advocate democracy Date: 14 Jan 1997 05:37:09 -0800 [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] c/o P. O. Box 6189 San Rafael California Republic Postal Zone 94903-0189/tdc February 15, 1993 Dagny Sharon Attorney-at-Law c/o 17332 Irvine Boulevard, #230 Tustin, California Republic Postal Zone 92680/tdc Dear Dagny: I appreciated the opportunity to make your acquaintance at the Libertarian Party Convention in Sunnyvale this past weekend. I also regret that we didn't have a chance to spend more time together. Your videotape is quite original and light-hearted; I hope it brings you much success. Had we found a way to spend more time talking with each other, there is one important matter which I would definitely have wanted you to consider more carefully. During our conversation in the bar, while I was eating lunch, you implied that one of your goals is to work towards a "democracy" for America. Whether you intended it this way or not, such a goal directly contradicts Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution for the United States of America, to wit: Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government .... What exactly is a "Republican Form" of government? It is one in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the People and exercised by the People. Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, makes this very clear: Republican government. One in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, either directly, or through representatives chosen by the people, to whom those powers are specially delegated. In re Duncan, 139 U.S. 449, 11 S.Ct. 573, 35 L.Ed. 219; Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. (21 Wall.) 162, 22 L.Ed. 627. Both the California State Constitution and the U.S. Constitution state that the latter shall be the supreme Law of the Land. In the U.S. Constitution, Article 6, Clause 2 states: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. At the turn of the century, the U.S. Supreme Court issued a series of controversial cases now known as The Insular Cases. These cases were predicated, in part, on the principle that the Constitution for the United States as such does not extend beyond the boundaries of the States which are united by and under it. Accordingly, this principle set a crucial precedent whereby Congress was free to establish a legislative democracy within the federal zone, instead of a constitutional republic. The federal zone is the area over which Congress exercises exclusive legislative jurisdiction; it encompasses the District of Columbia and such areas as Guam and the Virgin Islands. Even more important is the fact that this exclusive legislative jurisdiction extends to all persons who are subject to it, regardless of where they may reside. As such, the status of "citizen of the United States" (also known as "U.S. citizen") causes one to be subject to the letter of all municipal statutes, rules and regulations which Congress enacts under this exclusive legislative authority. The constitutional definition of this second class of citizens is alleged to be the so-called 14th Amendment. However, two standing decisions of the Utah Supreme Court have struck down the ratification of this amendment. Coupled with all the evidence which that Court utilized to arrive at these decisions, we have therein good cause to conclude that the so-called 14th Amendment is null and void for fraud and duress. My book The Federal Zone discusses the so-called 14th Amendment as follows: Not only did this so-called "amendment" fail to specify which meaning of the term "United States" was being used; like the 16th Amendment, it also failed to be ratified, this time by 15 of the 37 States which existed in 1868. The House Congressional Record for June 13, 1967, contains all the documentation you need to prove that the so-called 14th Amendment was never ratified into law (see page 15641 et seq.). For example, it itemizes all States which voted against the proposed amendment, and the precise dates when their Legislatures did so. "I cannot believe that any court, in full possession of its faculties, could honestly hold that the amendment was properly approved and adopted." State v. Phillips, 540 P.2d. 936, 941 (1975). The Utah Supreme Court has detailed the shocking and sordid history of the 14th Amendment's "adoption" in the case of Dyett v. Turner, 439 P.2d 266, 272 (1968). With this background knowledge firmly in hand, it is easy to explain why the federal government would reiterate the theme of "democracy" and "democratic institutions" over and over in its media propaganda. It is now obvious that such programming has been entirely successful; witness the large percentage of "Libertarians" who make repeated reference to their political goal of "democracy" for America. Perhaps without knowing it, they are participating in the slow but steady demise of the nation symbolized by the Stars and Stripes, "the Republic for which it stands, one Nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." The Insular Cases made it possible for America to become divisible into a constitutional republic and a legislative democracy. It is the strategy of "divide and conquer", being applied once again with much success, this time to our very own homeland. I hope I have given you a few things to think about. Sincerely yours, /s/ John E. Trumane Account for Better Citizenship enclosures: People v. Boxer pleadings "Citizen is a Term of Municipal Law" copy: Jerry Collette # # # ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: (fwd)Alabama Militia Alert Date: 14 Jan 1997 07:20:51 -0500 >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 23:49:10 -0500 >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >Subject: Alabama Militia Alert > >The following is transcribed from a hand written letter we received in >the mail on Jan. 13, 1997. The author requested their name and location >be omitted. >============================================================== >28 DEC 1996 > >Dear E PLRUIBUS UNUM (O.U.M.), and Fellow Patriots, > >I'm an inmate at the (name of Federal Prison witheld). I am the former >commander of the West Mobile Rangers (Mobile County, Alabama) whose >mission was to keep track of U.N. traning operations and stockpiling of >vehicles (former Soviet bloc) in Southeast Mississippi. We conducted over >29 missions (strictly recon) and made available to Alabama State Council >members, photos, reports, and captured documents for about three years >1994-1996. > >In early 1996, a group in East Alabama asked me to train their men for >these same type of operations. They repeatedly tried to get me to commit >murder, conduct illegal and deadly raids on drug operations, and to >sabotage a militia intellegence computer center, run by a militia they >had political problems with. Upon meeting with one of the political >figures in the state, I told him what was going on and what they wanted. >He confronted them saying to lay off me and my men, that we were a >valuable asset to the State Council and were not to engage in criminal >activity. > >These people retaliated and stole over $5000 worth of military gear from >my group and to add insult to injury, they became collaborators with the >forces of evil, and inevitably caused me to get locked up along with some >others in my group. Now my group don't exsist, and a very valued >asset to the movement is gone. Out of eighteen men five are in prison, >and the rest are scattered and running so I am told. > >These highly motivated men were trained and had grown a bond, to each other, >and the movement. They had blind faith in their fellow patriots no matter who >or where. They were aged 18 to 29 with a couple over 35. Myself and four other >former troops trained, equipped and led them. They were like my brothers and I >loved them and still do. > >Our betrayal to the ATF and FBI was a despicable act of people who had lost >face within the movement. I have no idea, what if anything has happend to >them as far as sanctions or banishment from the Alabama State Council for >their trechery, or if they continue to serve on the Council. God knows I >fear for more true patriots who may fall under their spell or become the >subject of their anger. > >I hope that I can warn all groups in my State of Alabama and other states >who are true patriots to beware of the vipers who live in East Central >Alabama. They are collaborators with the enemy of us all. They are the >EASTERN DIAMONDBACKS of Alabama, led by Darryl Cheatwood, his >mother Betty, and a former KKK member, James Harry. > >Fellow Patriots of the O.U.M., I write this to you as you are the only >(m-group) listed in an AMERICAN FREEDOM MAGAZINE that came into my >possession lately. I don't know if these deadly snakes have been in contact >with you or not. If so, beware, Beware ! I know they were, as of a year ago, >in contact with M.O.M., the Michigan M-group, Tri-States (which they despise) >and some groups in Tennessee, Georgia, and Mississippi. Please, Patriot >brothers and sisters, black or white, spread the word, beware ! These >Diamond backs bite patriots and their venum is deadly. > >Even behind the prison walls of razor wire, my love and dedication to our >sacred cause has not diminished. I am forever the servant of our country and >ALL our people, and continue to educate others of all colors and religions >here as to the deadly intent of the N.W.O power grab. > >Maybe you can put my story on the INTERNET or in your newsletter. All is true >and a lot of people in Alabama KNOW it. > >If posssible to let me be on your mailing list, I'd be very greatful. I have >no money because I refuse to work for Unicor due to political reasons. Boy did >that blow the prison counciler's mind! Anyway, please write back and let me >know what's going on in the movement, just don't put the m-word on the front >page and if so (like on a letterhead), get a magic marker and blot it out. I'll >know what it is! > >Thanks for your time reading this. I love you all! > >Always faithful >John Doe #0000-000 >F.C.I. xxxxxxxxxxxx >some where in the USA > >P.S. if you care to print this in your newsletter it's okay, just don't use my >name or location currently. It may cause some heat here. Just use a fictious >name and say a different federal prison. > >============================================================== >E Pluribus Unum claims no responsibility for the accuracy or inaccuracy of the >material contained within this posting. > >If anyone has any information on this situation, NOW is the time to bring it >out! > >In Liberty, >=========================================================== >J.J. & Helen Johnson - Fridays - 8:00 pm EST - WWCR 5.070 Mhz >E Pluribus Unum >P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 >Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 >Web Site - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html >"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 > > Minor typos corrected "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: (fwd)Alabama Militia Alert Date: 14 Jan 1997 06:38:26 -0800 >X-Sender: foolery@mail.bright.net >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 07:20:51 -0500 >To: roc@xmission.com >From: Tom Cloyes >Subject: (fwd)Alabama Militia Alert >Sender: owner-roc@xmission.com >Reply-To: roc@xmission.com > >>X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >>Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 23:49:10 -0500 >>To: eplurib@megalinx.net >>From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >>Subject: Alabama Militia Alert >> >>The following is transcribed from a hand written letter we received in >>the mail on Jan. 13, 1997. The author requested their name and location >>be omitted. >>============================================================== >>28 DEC 1996 >> >>Dear E PLRUIBUS UNUM (O.U.M.), and Fellow Patriots, >> >>I'm an inmate at the (name of Federal Prison witheld). I am the former >>commander of the West Mobile Rangers (Mobile County, Alabama) whose >>mission was to keep track of U.N. traning operations and stockpiling of >>vehicles (former Soviet bloc) in Southeast Mississippi. We conducted over >>29 missions (strictly recon) and made available to Alabama State Council >>members, photos, reports, and captured documents for about three years >>1994-1996. >> >>In early 1996, a group in East Alabama asked me to train their men for >>these same type of operations. They repeatedly tried to get me to commit >>murder, conduct illegal and deadly raids on drug operations, and to >>sabotage a militia intellegence computer center, run by a militia they >>had political problems with. Upon meeting with one of the political >>figures in the state, I told him what was going on and what they wanted. >>He confronted them saying to lay off me and my men, that we were a >>valuable asset to the State Council and were not to engage in criminal >>activity. >> >>These people retaliated and stole over $5000 worth of military gear from >>my group and to add insult to injury, they became collaborators with the >>forces of evil, and inevitably caused me to get locked up along with some >>others in my group. Now my group don't exsist, and a very valued >>asset to the movement is gone. Out of eighteen men five are in prison, >>and the rest are scattered and running so I am told. >> >>These highly motivated men were trained and had grown a bond, to each other, >>and the movement. They had blind faith in their fellow patriots no matter who >>or where. They were aged 18 to 29 with a couple over 35. Myself and four other >>former troops trained, equipped and led them. They were like my brothers and I >>loved them and still do. >> >>Our betrayal to the ATF and FBI was a despicable act of people who had lost >>face within the movement. I have no idea, what if anything has happend to >>them as far as sanctions or banishment from the Alabama State Council for >>their trechery, or if they continue to serve on the Council. God knows I >>fear for more true patriots who may fall under their spell or become the >>subject of their anger. >> >>I hope that I can warn all groups in my State of Alabama and other states >>who are true patriots to beware of the vipers who live in East Central >>Alabama. They are collaborators with the enemy of us all. They are the >>EASTERN DIAMONDBACKS of Alabama, led by Darryl Cheatwood, his >>mother Betty, and a former KKK member, James Harry. >> >>Fellow Patriots of the O.U.M., I write this to you as you are the only >>(m-group) listed in an AMERICAN FREEDOM MAGAZINE that came into my >>possession lately. I don't know if these deadly snakes have been in contact >>with you or not. If so, beware, Beware ! I know they were, as of a year ago, >>in contact with M.O.M., the Michigan M-group, Tri-States (which they despise) >>and some groups in Tennessee, Georgia, and Mississippi. Please, Patriot >>brothers and sisters, black or white, spread the word, beware ! These >>Diamond backs bite patriots and their venum is deadly. >> >>Even behind the prison walls of razor wire, my love and dedication to our >>sacred cause has not diminished. I am forever the servant of our country and >>ALL our people, and continue to educate others of all colors and religions >>here as to the deadly intent of the N.W.O power grab. >> >>Maybe you can put my story on the INTERNET or in your newsletter. All is true >>and a lot of people in Alabama KNOW it. >> >>If posssible to let me be on your mailing list, I'd be very greatful. I have >>no money because I refuse to work for Unicor due to political reasons. Boy did >>that blow the prison counciler's mind! Anyway, please write back and let me >>know what's going on in the movement, just don't put the m-word on the front >>page and if so (like on a letterhead), get a magic marker and blot it out. I'll >>know what it is! >> >>Thanks for your time reading this. I love you all! >> >>Always faithful >>John Doe #0000-000 >>F.C.I. xxxxxxxxxxxx >>some where in the USA >> >>P.S. if you care to print this in your newsletter it's okay, just don't use my >>name or location currently. It may cause some heat here. Just use a fictious >>name and say a different federal prison. >> >>============================================================== >>E Pluribus Unum claims no responsibility for the accuracy or inaccuracy of the >>material contained within this posting. >> >>If anyone has any information on this situation, NOW is the time to bring it >>out! >> >>In Liberty, >>=========================================================== >>J.J. & Helen Johnson - Fridays - 8:00 pm EST - WWCR 5.070 Mhz >>E Pluribus Unum >>P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 >>Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 >>Web Site - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html >>"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 >> >> >Minor typos corrected >"You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made >in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures >permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit >a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest >immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters >(no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) > >"A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, >still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a >dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. > >"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our >liberties than standing armies." > --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) > > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: The MEDIA strikes again Date: 14 Jan 1997 06:53:16 PST On KVI this AM, a blurb from KOMO News about the "Washington Militia", had a _nasty_ spin. Anyone the MEDIA doesn't like, who practices with silouette targets will now be refered to as, "using silouettes of Federal Agents for target practice". -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: Libertarians advocate democracy Date: 14 Jan 1997 08:00:17 -0800 (PST) Just for the record, there is (speaking for myself) one Libertarian out here who values Republican government. Anecdotally, my experience doesnt mesh with the authors at all with regard to Libertarians and democracy. Democratic cycles of power are obviously incompatible with any individualist or Libertarian philosophy. -Boyd Kneeland (the opinions I express are mine alone) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: affidavit re: "Herb Crawford" [sic] Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:52:10 -0800 TO: Sender Many thanks! /s/ Paul Mitchell p.s. This is the same "Herb Crawford" who threatened Paul Mitchell's life twelve (12) times after Paul took him in for shelter; Crawford also stole $1,200 worth of computer equipment, books, and cash after Paul demanded that he vacate the premises. Paul had told Herb of Paul's intention to testify against Elizabeth Broderick, when Herb blew up, threatening violence many times (throwing Paul thru a sliding glass door of a second-story apartment). At 08:49 PM 1/14/97 -0800, you wrote: >IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE STATE OF >OREGON > FOR THE COUNTY OF HARNEY > >IN THE MATTER OF AN ) No. >APPLICATION FOR A ) >SEARCH WARRANT ) APPLICATION AND >AFFIDAVIT > ) IN SUPPORT OF SEARCH >WARRANT > >STATE OF. OREGON ) > ) ss. >County of Harney ) > > >I, DAVID R. GLERUP, being first duly sworn, on oath depose and say: > >I am the Sheriff of Harney County, Oregon, and have been for the past >eleven (11) years. Prior to that, I was a Oregon State Trooper for five >and one-half years (5 >1/2). > >During my tenure as a law enforcement officer, a large percentage of my >time has been devoted to the enforcement of laws concerning controlled >substances and >have had in the course of my duties dealings with persons involved with >controlled substances. > >I have received approximately three hundred fifty (350) hours of special >training in the identification and recognition of controlled substances >from the Oregon State >Police, the Drug Enforcement Administration, Western States Information >Network and the Oregon Narcotics Enforcement Association. I have been >involved in >more than four hundred (400) investigations involving the manufacturing >of and/or conspiracy to, manufacture and/or deliver controlled >substances. Because of these >classes and my practical field work, I am conversant with the >procedures, techniques and items used by persons involved in the illegal >manufacturing, delivery and >possession of controlled substances. > >On July 2, 1996, I was contacted by Officer Joe Lenseigne of the Yakima >City County Narcotics Unit (YCCNU) who advised me they were >investigating an illegal >methamphetamine drug operation and that they had information that an >illegal drug lab was operating in the Burns, Harney County, Oregon area. >Officer Lenseigne >stated that the site was referred to as the Tree Farm and was off of >Double O Road. I know that there is a ranch referred to as the Tree Farm >located North of >Double O Road in Harney County. Officer Lenseigne told me that they were >continuing their investigation and would re-contact me as soon as they >had more >information. On July 3, 1996, Sergeant Steve Finch of the Yakima City >County Narcotics Unit (YCCNU) relayed the following information to me: > > On June 26, 1996 Detectives of Yakima City County Narcotics Unit, >hereinafter referred to as YCCNU, arrested Joanne Blair, also known as > (AKA) Rene Jacobsen for the delivery of approximately five (5) >ounces of methamphetamine/methedrine, hereinafter referred to as the >product, to an > undercover narcotics agent. Incident to arrest another five (5) >ounces of product was recovered in her vehicle. The suspected >methamphetamine was > field tested hy Detective Dave Hilton of YCCNU and tested positive >for methamphetamine and methedrine, both of which are controlled >substances. > Blair subsequently cooperated with Detectives of YCCNU. > > Detectives additionally recovered from Blair another eleven (11) >ounces of product from her residence on the same date. Blair's >additional assistance > led to development of information on the following subjects; > > On or about June 21, 1996, Blair's source of product, Bernard >Vincent Montgomery, AKA/James J . Montgomery, brought approximately six >(6) > pounds of product to Yakima, Washington, from the Central >California area where he resides and delivered the product to Blair and >Blair's boyfriend, > Edwin Dale McClain, AKA/John Dewey. Blair also obtains product from >McClain. > > Blair took possession of approximately one and a half (1 1/2) >pounds of product while McClain took possession of the remainder of the >product. The > product was supplied by Montgomery to Blair and McClain for latter >payment (fronted). > > Detectives recovered most of the product that Blair had while >McClain delivered his product to his daughter, Debra McClain, who >resides in > Wenatchee, Washington. Blair stated that Dale McClain then drove to >his ranch in Burns, Harney County, Oregon on or about June 25, 1996. > > The ranch in Burns, Harney County, Oregon is currently being leased >by Dale McClain and Blair from Herbert Crawford an agent for United >Capital > Development Corporation. Sergeant Finch told Affiant that Blair >stated that Crawford is a methamphetamine cook who taught McClain and > Montgomery how to manufacture methamphetamine. Blair stated she >knows Crawford personally and that the trailer used at the ranch to >manufacture > the methamphetamine used to belong to Crawford. The ranch was >described as approximately one hundred and eighty (180) acres, and is >legally > described as land in Harney County, Oregon, as follows: In Township >26S., Range 30E., W.M.: Sec. 7: NE 1/4, N 1/2, SE 1/4 (Tax Code 32-2 26 > 30N - Reference No. 45038, 45044, 45045, located in, Harney County, >Oregon. Blair has observed Dale McClain manufacture product at this > location during the last six months and has visited this ranch on >several occasions during which she observed various lab >equipment/glassware for the > production of the product. While at the ranch Blair observed a semi >trailer which has a trap door that leads to underground to house the >chemicals > used to produce the product, including hydriotic acid and red >phosphorous. Also located on the property is a single wide mobile home, >which is gold > and white in color, a small out building, a large shop, various >farm equipment/machinery (see attached Lease Agreement, EXHIBIT A), a >stainless steel > tank used in the production of up to five hundred (500) pounds of >product. Blair further stated that the single wide mobile home is used >to house > several guns to include hand guns and at least one assault rifle >which belong to Edwin McClain. > > On July 2, 1996 Detectives of YCCNU with the assistance of Joanne >Blair placed a call to Montgomery stating Blair had ten pounds of >ephedrine if > Montgomery wanted it. Initially Montgomery asked that McClain pick >the ephedrine up and transport it to Montgomery. Montgomery then >relented > and said yes and said he would be on his way from California to >Yakima, Washington to pick it up. Montgomery arrived at Blair's >residence on July 2, > 1996. Blair described where the ephedrine was stashed and showed >Montgomery its location. Montgomery picked the ephedrine up and was >arrested > shortly after obtaining the ephedrine. The ephedrine was field >tested before and after it was picked up by Montgomery and found to be >ephedrine. > > Blair, under the supervision of YCCNU agreed to ask McClain if he >wanted to pick up ten pounds of ephedrine. After he arrived at her house >on July > 2, 1996, he was taken by Blair to the same ephedrine for which >Montgomery had been arrested and he too was arrested after picking up >the > ephedrine. It is believed that both McClain and Montgomery intended >to utilize the ephedrine for the manufacture of more methamphetamine. > > Blair has been distributing methamphetamine for Montgomery and >McClain for approximately the last six months. Montgomery and McClain >have > been manufacturing methamphetamine which has been distributed in >Yakima, Washington by Blair for approximately the last six months. > > McClain manufactures methamphetamine in the Burns, Harney County, >Oregon area and Montgomery manufactures methamphetamine in Canada. > Sgt. Finch also told affiant that Montgomery has two prior >convictions for manufacturing methamphetamine and McClain has felony >convictions for tax > evasion and being a convicted felon in possession of a firearm. > >On July 3, 1996, I spoke with John Clemens at the Harney County >Assessors office who provided me with a photograph of the property >described in the attached >lease (EXHIBIT B). I know based on my conversation with John Clemens and >my investigation that the property described belongs to United Capital >Development >Corporation in care of Herbert Crawford who has an address of 7739 E. >Broadway #370, Tucson, Arizona. It is described as Township 26 S, Range >30 E, W. >M., Section 7: NE 1/4, N 1/2, SE 1/4. This is an eighty acre parcel with >a single wide, white and gold mobile home as a residence. There is a >large shop on the >property with other out buildings. > >On July 3, 1996, Affiant drove to the "Tree Farm" and observed several >vehicles listed on the attached lease agreement (EXHIBIT A). Affiant >also observed that >the location matched the description given by Blair in her statement to >the YCCNU. A map of the location provided by Blair was similar to the >buildings and >vehicles that Affiant observed on the property. > >I know that methamphetamine is a schedule II controlled substance. I >further know from my training and experience that methamphetamine and >the chemicals that >are used to produce methamphetamine may be kept and stored in a liquid >form until prepared for use or distribution. I know from my training and >experience that >the liquid and crystalline forms of methamphetamine may be stored, >retained and secreted for long periods of time before use or >distribution. I further know from my >training and experience that persons involved in the manufacture, >possession and/or distribution of methamphetamine often secrete the >methamphetamine to avoid >detection by law enforcement officers. > >I know from my training and experience that methamphetamine is often >produced from various chemicals, including but not limited to Phenol 2 >Propenyl (P2P), red >phosphorus, lead acetate, hydriotic acid and ephedrine. > >I further know from my training and experience that certain glassware is >often used to manufacture methamphetamine. This glassware includes but >is not limited to >round bottom flasks, glass tubing, glass condenser coils, and beakers. > >I further know from my training and experience that methamphetamine is >manufactured by cooking the liquid form until it dries into a >crystalline, powdery substance, >which is re-liquified and injected into the body. The crystalline form >of methamphetamine is often stored, and repackaged for distribution. I >know that these >packaging materials may include scales, baggies, heat wrap bags, tape >and/or heat sealing devices. > >Affiant further knows from his training and experience that persons >involved in the conspiracies to possess, distribute and manufacture of >controlled substances do >so over long periods of time. That the conspiracies are comprised of >separate acts over a period of days, weeks, months, and at times, years. >That evidence of the >conspiracies remain after that acts may have been completed. This >evidence includes notes, correspondence, phone bills, receipts for items >used in the conspiracy or >in the furtherance of the conspiracy, equipment used in the conspiracy, >proceeds of the conspiracy, and other items used in the conspiracy. That >these items, as well >as the controlled substances themselves, or evidence thereof may be >found weeks and months after the conspiracy have taken place. > >Affiant has also found that persons coming to the lab site to purchase >drugs, and the persons engaged in the selling of the drugs, often >conceal such controlled >substances inside vehicles. Also affiant has found that it is routine >for sellers of controlled substances to deliver their product to >purchasers and that such deliveries >are usually made in their private vehicles. > >Affiant also knows from training and past experience that persons >involved in manufacturing, delivery and use of controlled substances >have large amounts of cash to >deal with. These persons very often invest their money or will secret >the money in hidden locations. Drug traffickers very often place assets >in names other than their >own to avoid detection. Even though these assets are in other people's >names they continue to use these assets and exercise dominion and >control over them. >Narcotics traffickers often maintain large amount of cash in order to >maintain and finance their ongoing narcotics business. Affiant knows >that these items may >include, ledgers, safe deposit box receipts, hand written notes, >computer records, check registers, cancelled checks, savings account >records, charge card records, >wire transfer records, and/or other financial records. > >Affiant further knows from his training and experience that persons >involved in drug trafficking conceal in their vehicles drugs, currency, >financial instruments, stolen >items, guns, proceeds of drug transactions, and evidence of financial >transactions relating to obtaining, transferring, secreting, or spending >of large sums of money >made from engaging in narcotics trafficking activities. > >Affiant knows from his training and experience that in the investigation >of controlled substance offenses identification is needed for successful >prosecution of those >person(s) involved in those offenses. That identification can be found >in the form of letters, utility bills, operators licenses, vehicle >registrations, receipts, checks, >credit cards, finger prints, etc. Affiant also knows that people who are >involved in the manufacture and delivery of controlled substances, and >who conspire to >commit such crimes, often keep records of their transactions, and will >keep these records for long periods of time. These records may be found >on paper calendars, >books and computer files. > >Affiant also knows that people involved in these crimes frequently keep >about their persons items of identification, records of these crimes, >cocaine, >methamphetamine, marijuana and currency. > >Those persons involved in the manufacture of controlled substances often >keep in or about their residence or vehicles those items needed to >determine quantities of >those substances, such us packaging materials and scales to weigh the >substances. > >Affiant also knows that people involved in these crimes frequently arm >themselves with firearms, ammunition, detonation devices, knives and >other weapons. > >Based upon the above information, Affiant has probable cause to believe >that evidence of possession and/or manufacturing of controlled >substances and conspiracy >to commit such crimes may be found in Township 26 S., Range 30 E., W. >M.: Sec. 7: NE 1/4, N 1/2, SE 1/4 (Tax Code 32-2 26 3ON - Reference, No. >45038, >45044, 45045, located in Harney County, Oregon. > >I request the court to issue a warrant to search the above described >property persons found on the property, and vehicles found on the >property for the above >described evidence. > >DATED this 4th day of July, 1996. > > (signed) > DAVID R. GLERUP, Sheriff > > SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN TO BEFORE ME this 4th day af July, > 1996. > > Circuit >Court Judge > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: New Web Page (fwd) Date: 14 Jan 1997 12:17:51 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- eplurib@megalinx.net, phma@ix.netcom.com, nickishay@juno.com, pwatson@utdallas.edu, lindat@iquest.net, jstaffen@worldnet.att.net, litz@pta6000.pld.com, 72603.1654@compuserve.com, jbissett@txdirect.net, vld2000@webtv.net, cbclark@juno.com, lucianpu@newnorth.net, Silvia174@endor.com, birdwatcher@netsurftech.com, scottg@nai.net, kbeer@diamond.nb.net, bt24@evansville.edu, psis@pluto.njcc.com, west@sonic.net, geno@caprica.com, techno@camalott.com, renee@logoplex.com, 71163.1735@compuserve.com Please help us spread the word all over the Internet... some people have been waiting for this for a long time. Thanks to Dave we now have a web page at: http://www.telepath.com/believer Check it out... it is magnificent! William Cooper ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Libertarians advocate democracy -Reply Date: 14 Jan 1997 16:18:36 -0800 >Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:18:50 -0800 >From: Bill VanMastrigt >To: pmitch@primenet.com >Subject: Libertarians advocate democracy -Reply -Reply > >Paul, >Yes. >Bill > >>>> Paul Andrew Mitchell 01/14/97 02:37pm >>> >Bill, > >This is excellent. > >May I have your permission to forward to my various email lists? > >RSVP > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > > >At 11:25 AM 1/14/97 -0800, you wrote: >>Paul, >>Democracy is rule by majority. It is devoid of law, i.e., there is no >remedy >>against its actions. Its essence is fleeting, subject to change without >>notice. Where under law exists a concrete reference, under the rule of >>men there exists no reference at all. >> >>This is where America finds itself today, devoid of law. Witness the >>judiciary and its reliance on public opinion for the moment. Witness the >>legislature and its reliance on public opinion for the moment. Any >wonder >>that more and more clear thinking folk are preparing to take the State to >>task? >> >>What price law? Eternal vigilance and occasional blood-letting. >> >>Bill >> >> >> > >==================================================================== >[Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] >[65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] >Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com > ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] >We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. >Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan >==================================================================== > > > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Attorney General's authority required Date: 14 Jan 1997 19:04:38 -0800 The United States must have the authorization of the Attorney General, or the Attorney General's delegate, before it can commence any civil or criminal action against a Citizen in any federal court. If there is no Attorney General, then there can be no delegate, and therefore there can be no civil or criminal action against a Citizen in any federal court. Period. If that authorization did not exist in the past, then all civil and/or criminal actions against Citizens in any federal court were fraudulent for lacking authority. Period. This is fundamental American law, never repealed. /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Stiler Subject: Re: The MEDIA strikes again Date: 14 Jan 1997 16:16:56 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Bill Vance wrote: > On KVI this AM, a blurb from KOMO News about the "Washington Militia", had a > _nasty_ spin. Anyone the MEDIA doesn't like, who practices with silouette > targets will now be refered to as, "using silouettes of Federal Agents for > target practice". If you want to see the media get *really* upset, tell them that you're 'using the sihouettes of journalists for sniper practice' . Mike Michael D. Stiler SysDate Consulting Services Saratoga, California Master Mason Knight Templar Scottish Rite Shriner Sailor Diver AMA LifeMember NRA LifeMember NRA Golden Eagles Charter Founder NRA-ILA CPRA LifeMember AOPA DAN Retreads HOG Bagpiper TeamOS/2 Bagpipe Spoken Here! I'll give up sex before I'll give up motorcycling! 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Box 364 Lusk, Wyo. 82225 Our forefathers, weary of the oppressive measures that King George III's government forced upon them, in common declared their independence from England in 1776. They were not expected to be successful in that resistance. The moneyed people had backed England for two major reasons. First, our forefathers wanted a rigid, written Constitution "set in concrete." They were familiar with the so-called Constitution of England which consisted largely of customs, precedents, traditions, and understandings, often vague and always flexible. They wanted the principle of English common law, that an act done by any official person or law-making body beyond his or its legal competence was simply void. Second, the thirteen little colonies desired to base their union on substance (gold and silver) -- real money. They well knew how the despotic governments of Europe were mortgaged to the hilt -- lock, stock, and barrel, the land, the people, everything -- to certain wealthy men who controlled the banks, the currency, and all credit, who lent credit but did not loan gold and silver! The United States of America was made up of a union of what is now fifty sovereign States, a three-branch (legislative, executive, and judicial) Republic known as The United States of America, or as termed in this article, the Continental United States. Its citizenry live in one of the fifty States, and its laws are based on the Constitution, which is based on Common Law. Less than one hundred years after we became a nation, a loophole was discovered in the Constitution by cunning lawyers in league with the international bankers. They realized that a separate nation existed, by the same name, that Congress had created in Article I, Section 8, Clause 17. This "United States" is a Legislative Democracy within the Constitutional Republic, and is known as the Federal United States. It has exclusive, unlimited rule over its citizenry, the residents of the District of Columbia, the territories and enclaves (Guam, Midway Islands, Wake Island, Puerto Rico, etc.), and anyone who is a citizen by way of the 14th Amendment (naturalized citizens). Both United States have the same Congress that rules in both nations. One "United States," the Republic of fifty States, has the "stars and stripes" as its flag, but without any fringe on it. The Federal United States' flag is the stars and stripes with a yellow fringe, seen in all the courts. The abbreviations of the States of the Continental United States are, with or without the zip codes, Ala., Alas., Ariz., Ark., Cal., etc. The abbreviations of the States under the jurisdiction of the Federal United States, the Legislative Democracy, are AL, AK, AZ, AR, CA, etc. (without any periods). Under the Constitution, based on Common Law, the Republic of the Continental United States provides for legal cases (1) at Law, (2) in Equity, and (3) in Admiralty: (1) Law is the collective organization of the individual right to lawful defense. It is the will of the majority, the organization of the natural right of lawful defense. It is the substitution of a common force for individual forces, to do only what the individual forces have a natural and lawful right to do: to protect persons, liberties, and properties; to maintain the right of each, and to cause justice to reign over us all. Since an individual cannot lawfully use force against the person, liberty, or property of another individual, then the common force -- for the same reason -- cannot lawfully be used to destroy the person, liberty, or property of individuals or groups. Law allows you to do anything you want to, as long as you don't infringe upon the life, liberty or property of anyone else. Law does not compel performance. Today's so-called laws (ordinances, statutes, acts, regulations, orders, precepts, etc.) are often erroneously perceived as law, but just because something is called a "law" does not necessarily make it a law. [There is a difference between "legal" and "lawful." Anything the government does is legal, but it may not be lawful.] (2) Equity is the jurisdiction of compelled performance (for any contract you are a party to) and is based on what is fair in a particular situation. The term "equity" denotes the spirit and habit of fairness, justness, and right dealing which would regulate the intercourse of men with men. You have no rights other than what is specified in your contract. Equity has no criminal aspects to it. (3) Admiralty is compelled performance plus a criminal penalty, a civil contract with a criminal penalty. By 1938 the gradual merger procedurally between law and equity actions (i.e., the same court has jurisdiction over legal, equitable, and admiralty matters) was recognized. The nation was bankrupt and was owned by its creditors (the international bankers) who now owned everything -- the Congress, the Executive, the courts, all the States and their legislatures and executives, all the land, and all the people. Everything was mortgaged in the national debt. We had gone from being sovereigns over government to subjects under government, through the use of negotiable instruments to discharge our debts with limited liability, instead of paying our debts at common law with gold or silver coin. The remainder of this article explains how this happened, where we are today, and what remedy we have to protect ourselves from this system. Our Present Commercial System of "Law" and the REMEDY Provided for Our Protection The present commercial system of "law" has replaced the old and familiar Common Law upon which our nation was founded. The following is the legal thread which brought us from sovereigns over government to subjects under government, through the use of negotiable instruments (Federal Reserve Notes) to discharge our debts with limited liability instead of paying our debts at common law with gold or silver coin. The change in our system of law from public law to private commercial law was recognized by the Supreme Court of the United States in the Erie Railroad vs. Thompkins case of 1938, after which case, in the same year, the procedures of Law were officially blended with the procedures of Equity. Prior to 1938, all U.S. Supreme Court decisions were based upon public law -- or that system of law that was controlled by Constitutional limitation. Since 1938, all U.S. Supreme Court decisions are based upon what is termed public policy. Public policy concerns commercial transactions made under the Negotiable Instrument's Law, which is a branch of the international Law Merchant. This has been codified into what is now known as the Uniform Commercial Code, which system of law was made uniform throughout the fifty States through the cunning of the Congress of the United States (which "United States" has its origin in Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution, as distinguished from the "United States," which is the Union of the fifty States). In offering grants of negotiable paper (Federal Reserve Notes) which the Congress gave to the fifty States of the Union for education, highways, health, and other purposes, Congress bound all the States of the Union into a commercial agreement with the Federal United States (as distinguished from the Continental United States). The fifty States accepted the "benefits" offered by the Federal United States as the consideration of a commercial agreement between the Federal United States and each of the corporate States. The corporate States were then obligated to obey the Congress of the Federal United States and also to assume their portion of the equitable debts of the Federal United States to the international banking houses, for the credit loaned. The credit which each State received, in the form of federal grants, was predicated upon equitable paper. This system of negotiable paper binds all corporate entities of government together in a vast system of commercial agreements and is what has altered our court system from one under the Common Law to a Legislative Article I Court, or Tribunal, system of commercial law. Those persons brought before this court are held to the letter of every statute of government on the federal, state, county, or municipal levels unless they have exercised the REMEDY provided for them within that system of Commercial Law whereby, when forced to use a so-called "benefit" offered, or available, to them, from government, they may reserve their former right, under the Common Law guarantee of same, not to be bound by any contract, or commercial agreement, that they did not enter knowingly, voluntarily, and intentionally. This is exactly how the corporate entities of state, county, and municipal governments got entangled with the Legislative Democracy, created by Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution, and called here The Federal United States, to distinguish it from the Continental United States, whose origin was in the Union of the Sovereign States. The same national Congress rules the Continental United States pursuant to Constitutional limits upon its authority, while it enjoys exclusive rule, with no Constitutional limitations, as it legislates for the Federal United States. With the above information, we may ask: "How did we, the free Preamble citizenry of the Sovereign States, lose our guaranteed unalienable rights and be forced into acceptance of the equitable debt obligations of the Federal United States, and also become subject to that entity of government, and divorced from our Sovereign States in the Republic, which we call here the Continental United States?" We do not reside, work, or have income from any territory subject to the direct jurisdiction of the Federal United States. These are questions that have troubled sincere, patriotic Americans for many years. Our lack of knowledge concerning the cunning of the legal profession is the cause of that divorce, but a knowledge of the truth concerning the legal thread, which caught us in its net, will restore our former status as a free Preamble citizen of the Republic. The answer follows: Our national Congress works for two nations foreign to each other, and by legal cunning both are called The United States. One is the Union of Sovereign States, under the Constitution, termed in this article the Continental United States. The other is a Legislative Democracy which has its origin in Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution, here termed the Federal United States. Very few people, when they see some "law" passed by Congress, ask themselves, "Which nation was Congress working for when it passed this or that so-called law?" Or, few ask, "Does this particular law apply to the Continental citizenry of the Republic, or does this particular law apply only to residents of the District of Columbia and other named enclaves, or territories, of the Democracy called the Federal United States?" Since these questions are seldom asked by the uninformed citizenry of the Republic, it was an open invitation for "cunning" political leadership to seek more power and authority over the entire citizenry of the Republic through the medium of "legalese." Congress deliberately failed in its duty to provide a medium of exchange for the citizenry of the Republic, in harmony with its Constitutional mandate. Instead, it created an abundance of commercial credit money for the Legislative Democracy, where it was not bound by Constitutional limitations. Then, after having created an emergency situation, and a tremendous depression in the Republic, Congress used its emergency authority to remove the remaining substance (gold and silver) from the medium of exchange belonging to the Republic, and made the negotiable instrument paper of the Legislative Democracy (Federal United States) a legal tender for Continental United States citizenry to use in the discharge of debts. At the same time, Congress granted the entire citizenry of the two nations the "benefit" of limited liability in the discharge of all debts by telling the citizenry that the gold and silver coins of the Republic were out of date and cumbersome. The citizens were told that gold and silver (substance) was no loner needed to pay their debts, that they were now "privileged" to discharge debt with this more "convenient" currency, issued by the Federal United States. Consequently, everyone was forced to "go modern," and to turn in their gold as a patriotic gesture. The entire news media complex went along with the scam and declared it to be a forward step for our democracy, no longer referring to America as a Republic. From that time on, it was a falling light for the Republic of 1776, and a rising light for Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal Democracy, which overcame the depression, which was caused by a created shortage of real money. There was created an abundance of debt paper money, so-called, in the form of interest-bearing negotiable instrument paper called Federal Reserve Notes, and other forms of paperwork credit instruments. Since all contracts since Roosevelt's time have the colorable consideration of Federal Reserve Notes, instead of a genuine consideration of silver and gold coin, all contracts are colorable contracts, and not genuine contracts. [According to Black's Law Dictionary (1990), colorable means "That which is in appearance only, and not in reality, what it purports to be, hence counterfeit, feigned, having the appearance of truth."] Consequently, a new colorable jurisdiction, called a statutory jurisdiction, had to be created to enforce the contracts. Soon the term colorable contract was changed to the term commercial agreement to fit circumstances of the new statutory jurisdiction, which is legislative, rather than judicial, in nature. This jurisdiction enforces commercial agreements upon implied consent, rather than full knowledge, as it is with the enforcement of contracts under the Common Law. All of our courts today sit as legislative Tribunals, and the so- called "statutes" of legislative bodies being enforced in these Legislative Tribunals are not "statutes" passed by the legislative branch of our three-branch Republic, but as "commercial obligations" to the Federal United States for anyone in the Federal United States or in the Continental United States who has used the equitable currency of the Federal United States and who has accepted the "benefit," or "privilege," of discharging his debts with the limited liability "benefit" offered to him by the Federal United States ... EXCEPT those who availed themselves of the remedy within this commercial system of law, which remedy is today found in Book 1 of the Uniform Commercial Code at Section 207. When used in conjunction with one's signature, a stamp stating "Without Prejudice U.C.C. 1-207" is sufficient to indicate to the magistrate of any of our present Legislative Tribunals (called "courts") that the signer of the document has reserved his Common Law right. He is not to be bound to the statute, or commercial obligation, of any commercial agreement that he did not enter knowingly, voluntarily, and intentionally, as would be the case in any Common Law contract. Furthermore, pursuant to U.C.C. 1-103, the statute, being enforced as a commercial obligation of a commercial agreement, must now be construed in harmony with the old Common Law of America, where the tribunal/court must rule that the statute does not apply to the individual who is wise enough and informed enough to exercise the remedy provided in this new system of law. He retains his former status in the Republic and fully enjoys his unalienable rights, guaranteed to him by the Constitution of the Republic, while those about him "curse the darkness" of Commercial Law government, lacking the truth needed to free themselves from a slave status under the Federal United States, even while inhabiting territory foreign to its territorial venue. ADDENDUM U.C.C. 1-207:4 Sufficiency of reservation. Any expression indicating any intention to preserve rights is sufficient, such as "without prejudice," "under protest," "under reservation," or "with reservation of all our rights." The Code states an "explicit" reservation must be made. "Explicit" undoubtedly is used in place of "express" to indicate that the reservation must not only be "express" but it must also be "clear" that such a reservation was intended. The term "explicit" as used in U.C.C. 1-207 means "that which is so clearly stated or distinctively set forth that there is no doubt as to its meaning." ... U.C.C. 1-207:7 Effect of reservation of rights. The making of a valid reservation of rights preserves whatever rights the person then possesses and prevents the loss of such right by application of concepts of waiver or estoppel .... U.C.C. 1-207:9 Failure to make reservation. When a waivable right or claim is involved, the failure to make a reservation thereof causes a loss of the right and bars its assertion at a later date .... U.C.C. 1-103:6 Common law. The Code is "Complementary" to the common law which remains in force except where displaced by the Code .... A statute should be construed in harmony with the common law unless there is a clear legislative intent to abrogate the common law. ... "The Code cannot be read to preclude a common law action." EXAMPLE Your Honor, my use of "Without Prejudice UCC 1-207" above my signature on this document indicates that I have exercised the "Remedy" provided for me in the Uniform Commercial Code in Book 1 at Section 207, whereby I may reserve my Common Law right not to be compelled to perform under any contract, or agreement, that I have not entered into knowingly, voluntarily, and intentionally. And, that reservation serves notice upon all administrative agencies of government -- national, state and local -- that I do not, and will not, accept the liability associated with the "compelled" benefit of any unrevealed commercial agreement. # # # ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: The MEDIA strikes again Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:53:36 PST On Jan 14, Michael Stiler wrote: >On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Bill Vance wrote: > >> On KVI this AM, a blurb from KOMO News about the "Washington Militia", had a >> _nasty_ spin. Anyone the MEDIA doesn't like, who practices with silouette >> targets will now be refered to as, "using silouettes of Federal Agents for >> target practice". > >If you want to see the media get *really* upset, tell them that you're >'using the sihouettes of journalists for sniper practice' . > >Mike I like it! Further discussion elsewhere has determined that a genuine "Federal Agent" silouette target must be one wearing a baseball cap with "ATF" on it, and two ten rings centered on the head and groin. Of course there may be "EPA" or other versions as well. :-) -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Re: Libertarians advocate democracy Date: 14 Jan 1997 19:19:40 -0800 At 08:00 -0800 1/14/97, boydk wrote: >Just for the record, there is (speaking for myself) one Libertarian out >here who values Republican government. Anecdotally, my experience doesnt >mesh with the authors at all with regard to Libertarians and democracy. >Democratic cycles of power are obviously incompatible with any >individualist or Libertarian philosophy. Same here. I know not whereof Paul Andrew Mitchell speaks in this regard. Every Libertarian I know of speaks about the "Republic" and not of 'democracy' - which it to be avoided at all costs! Such is not to say that there does not exist enclaves of aforementioned believers in 'democracy'. Perhaps the usage of the latter term has become a defacto usage for the former. However, whenever that happens in my presence, I hasten to correct the user and inform them of meanings of both terms and the benefits of the one (republic) and detriments of the other (democracy). Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lew Glendenning Subject: Re: Libertarians advocate democracy Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:14:23 -0900 E. J. Totty wrote: > > At 08:00 -0800 1/14/97, boydk wrote: > >Just for the record, there is (speaking for myself) one Libertarian out > >here who values Republican government. Anecdotally, my experience doesnt > >mesh with the authors at all with regard to Libertarians and democracy. > >Democratic cycles of power are obviously incompatible with any > >individualist or Libertarian philosophy. > > Same here. > I know not whereof Paul Andrew Mitchell speaks in this regard. > Every Libertarian I know of speaks about the "Republic" and not of > 'democracy' - which it to be avoided at all costs! > Such is not to say that there does not exist enclaves of > aforementioned believers in 'democracy'. > > Perhaps the usage of the latter term has become a defacto usage for > the former. However, whenever that happens in my presence, I hasten to > correct the user and inform them of meanings of both terms and the benefits > of the one (republic) and detriments of the other (democracy). > > Ed Do recall that Harry Browne was by far the strongest supporter of the US Constitution in its original, pristine form of any of the candidates in the last election. Lew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: ComLaw> Quasi Contracts - Roman Law Date: 14 Jan 1997 11:12:33 -0800 > Contracts >In General > > "Party cannot be bound by contract that he has not made or >authorized." Alexander v. Bosworth (1915), 26 C.A. 589, 599, 147 >P.607. > > "The intention of one party does not make contract." Barrios >& Co. v. Pettigrew (G. V.) Co. (1924), 68 C.A. 139, 228 P. 676. > > "The complaint, on its face, must show that the plaintiff has >the better right." Rogers v. Shannon (1877), 52 C. 99. > >Statutory Contract > > "Statutory is a contract which the statute says shall be >implied from certain facts, and is governed by the ordinary rules >relating to contracts." Foley v. Leisy Brewing Co., 89 N.W. 230, >231, 116 Iowa 176. > >Contracts Implied in Law > > "A contract "implied in law" is but a duty imposed by law and >treated as a contract for the purposes of a remedy only." G. T. >Fogle & Co. v. United States, 135 F.2d 117, 120. > > "Contracts "implied in law" imply a promise to pay, whether or >not any such promise was made or intended." In Re Altmann's Will, >266 N. Y. S. 773, 779, 149 Misc. 115. > > "Contract "implied in law" is, however, a term used to cover >a class of obligations, where the law, though the defendant did not >intend to assume an obligation, imposes an obligation upon him, >notwithstanding the absence of intention on his part, and, in many >cases, in spite of his actual dissent. Such contracts...may be >termed quasi-contracts and are not true contracts. They are found >generally; > 2. Upon statutory, official, or customary duties... > Bouvier's Law Dictionary (1914), Vol. I, p. 661. Clark on > Contracts, Quasi-Contracts, p. 531. > > Quasi-Contracts > > "An obligation similar in character to that of a contract, but >which arises not from an agreement of parties but from some >relation with them, or from a voluntary act of one of them." > Bouvier's Law Dictionary, supra, Vol. III, p. 2781. > > "Quasi contracts were a well defined class under the civil >law. By the civil code of Louisiana they are defined to be "the >lawful and purely voluntary acts of man, from which there results >any obligation whatever to a third person and sometimes a >reciprocal obligation between parties. In quasi-contracts the >obligation arises not from consent, as in the case of contracts, >but from the law of natural equity." Bouvier's Law Dictionary, id. > > "According to Professor Ames (Lect. on Leg. Hist. 160), the >term was not found in the common law, but it has been taken by >writers of the common law from the Roman Law. > > * * * > > It need only be added here that quasi contracts were in Roman > Law in almost infinite variety, but were divided into five (5) > classes: > 1. Gregotirorum gestio, the management of the affairs of > another, without authority..." Bouvier's Law Dictionary, id. > > Quasi-Contracts as fictions of law > > "Both in Roman and English law there are certain obligations >which were not in truth contractual, but which the law treats as IF >they were. They are contractual in law, but not in fact, being the >subject-matter of a FICTITIOUS extension of the sphere of contract >to cover obligations which do not in reality fall within it." >Salmond, Salmond on Jurisprudence, p. 642 (9th Edition, 1937, Sweet >& Maxwell, Ltd. England). > > "Constructive/quasi-contracts are created by statute on the >premise that they are needed as a matter of reason and justice, and >are allowed to be enforced ex contractu." Kraft Foods Co. of Wisc. >v. Commodity Credit Corp.,266 F.2d 254; Hill v. Waxberg, 237 F.2d >936. > > "Ex contractu is a form of action under the civil law, whereas >under the commmon law it would arise from actions of case, >trespass, replevin, trover, or detinue. Ex contractu actions are >from the civil law, not the common law, and are enforced by actions >in personam." Indep. School District of White Bear Lake v. City of >White Bear Lake, 292 N.W. 777. > > "Constructive/quasi contracts are based solely upon a legal >fiction or fiction of law." Hill v. Waxberg, 237 F.2d 936. > > "Since there is no agreement and a remedy is disired, they are >treated as a contract." Stipp v. Doran, 18 F.2d 83, 84. > > "Since there is no agreement as in contracts, the obligation >arises from natural equity." Riscarhson v. Permacel Tape Corp., >244 F.2d 80. > > "Constructive/quasi contracts include obligations founded on >statutory duties." Donovan v. Kansas City, 175 S. W. 2d 874; In Re >United Burton Co., 140 F. 495, 502. > > "A quasi contractual action presupposes acceptance and >retention of a benefit by one party with full appreciation of the >facts, under circumstances making it inequitable for him to retain >the benefit without payment of its reasonable value." Major- >Blakeney Co. v. Jenkins (1953), 121 C.A.2d 325, 263 P.2d 655, hear >den.; Townsend Pierson, Inc. v. Holly-Coleman Co. (1960), 178 >C.A.2d 373, 2 Cal. Rptr. 812. > > "Existence of implied contract is usually a question of fact >for trial court." Caron v. Andrew (1955), 133 C.A.2d 412, 284 P.2d >550, hear den.; Bolster (C. F.) Co. v. Boespflug (J. C.) >Construction Co. (1959), 167 C.A.2d 143, 334 P.2d 247, hear den. > > "A debt resulting from a normal agreement or contract has >always been the result of a promise to pay, and invoked a remedy in >the form of assumpsit. However, an assumpsit cannot be applied to >actions of debts where there is no agreement unless the court does >so by means of a fiction, because in order to support assumpsit, it >is necessary to allege a promise, and without agreement there is no >promise. Historically, the courts have adopted the fiction of a >promise, and it was declared that a promise was implied in law." >Keener, "Quasi-Contracts", pp. 4-5. > > As Convenience for Remedy in Equity > > "For the convenience of the remedy, they have been made to >figure as though they sprang from contract, and have appropriated >the form of agreement." Anson, Contracts (8th Ed.), p. 362. > > The Supreme Court of California stated that actions founded on >licenses issued by the State and their fees are in form common law >actions of assumpsit upon an implied contract. Welsbach Co. v. >State of California (1929), 206 C. 556. > > ". . . not only unscientific, and therefore theoretically >wrong, but is also destructive of clear thinking, and therefore >vicious in practice. It needs no argument to establish the >proposition that it is not scientific to treat as one and the same >thing an obligation that exists in every case because of the assent >of the defendant, and an obligation that not only does not depend >in any case upon his assent, but in many cases exists without his >assent." Keener, "Quasi-Contracts", p. 3. > >Promises Implied in Law > > "A promise implied in law is one in which neither the words >nor the conduct of the party involved are promissory in form, or >justify an inference of a promise. The term is used to indicate >that a party is under a legally enforceable duty, as he would have >been if he had in fact made a promise. Ferrous Products Co. v. >Gulf States Trading Co., 323 S. W. 2d 292. > > Benefit and Burden from Contracts > > "It is a well settled rule of law that he who seeks benefits >of contract must also assume burdens." Higgins v. Monckton (1938), >28 C.A.2d 723, 83 P.2d 516. > > "Voluntary acceptance of benefit of transaction is equivalent >to consent to all obligations arising from it, so far as facts are >known, or ought to be known, to person accepting." Northern >Assurance Co. v. Stout (1911), 16 C.A. 548, 117 P. 617. > > "Legislature is without power to affect past contracts, or to >alter or destroy nature or tenure of estates [i. e. the estate of >California]." Dewey v.Lambier, 7 Cal. 347; McKinney's New >California Digest (1961), Constitutional Law 125, p. 548 and >134, p. 558. > > Performance > > "Where performance depends on existence of a given thing >[consideration, benefit] assumed as the basis of the agreement, >performance is excused to extent that thing ceases to existthe fair >import of their terms, without reference to the hardships that may >fall upon the parties. . .If persons voluntarily express themselves >in writing, they must be bound by language employed; law presumes >that they understand import of their own contracts, and have >entered into them with knowledge of their mutual rights." Abbott v. >Gatch, 71 D. 735. > > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Courtesy Notice to Janet Reno Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:09:39 -0800 [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson [zip code exempt] ARIZONA REPUBLIC January 14, 1997 COURTESY NOTICE Janet Reno U.S. Department of Justice 10th and Constitution, N.W. Washington [zip code exempt] DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA for your credentials Dear Ms. Reno: This is a courtesy notice to you, and to all of those government officers, employees, and agents who rely upon formal delegation of authority from the office of the U.S. Attorney General to perfect their actions under authority of the United States (federal government), that the final deadline for production of your official credentials will fall on Friday, January 24, 1997, at 5:00 p.m. Notice to principals is notice to agents. Our original request for your credentials was submitted to you via first class United States Mail on December 10, 1996, pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act ("FOIA"), 5 U.S.C. 552 et seq. Our administrative appeal for said credentials, given your failure to produce same in response to Our proper request dated December 10, 1996, was submitted to you via first class United States Mail on December 24, 1996. Allowing for two (2) federal holidays, twenty (20) working days, plus one (1) day of grace, the final deadline for production of your official credentials falls officially on January 24, 1997 (24+28+2+1 - 31 = 24) at end of the working day (5:00 p.m., Eastern Standard Time). Beyond that deadline, Our administrative remedies will have been exhausted, and the doctrine of estoppel by acquiescence will be activated formally, finally, and forever. If I need to explain to you the far-reaching implications that will issue from your failure to produce, among other things, the Oath of Office required of you by Article VI, Clause 3, in the Constitution for the United States of America, as lawfully amended, then Our nation is in much worse shape than I ever thought possible heretofore. Respectfully submitted, /s/ Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Citizen of Arizona state, federal witness, Counselor at Law, and Relator in People v. United States et al. # # # c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state zip code exempt December 24, 1996 FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT APPEAL Disclosure Officer Office of the Attorney General Department of Justice 10th and Constitution, N.W. Washington [zip code exempt] DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA Dear Disclosure Officer: This is an appeal under the Freedom of Information Act. On December 10, 1996, I requested documents under the Freedom of Information Act (see attached). To date, the requested documents have not been produced. I hereby appeal your failure to produce the requested documents. The documents that were withheld must be disclosed under the FOIA because the original Thirteenth Amendment prevents government officials from exercising privileges of a nobility class, such as being exempt from the principles of open government and freedom of information. Evidence of the original Thirteenth Amendment has been filed with the Foreperson of the Grand Jury and with the Clerk of the United States District Court in Tucson, Arizona state (a Republic). See also Colorado Records Custodian. Disclosure of the documents which I requested is in the public interest because the information, and the procedure for obtaining the information, are likely to contribute significantly to public understanding of the operations and activities of government and are not primarily in My commercial interest. Moreover, the information requested will help to improve public confidence in the integrity of the United States (federal government), or to confirm that there are persons attempting to exercise executive and judicial branch powers in America without any authority or jurisdiction whatsoever. See U.S. v. Lopez. Thank you for your careful consideration of this appeal. Respectfully submitted, /s/ Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Citizen of Arizona state and federal witness all rights reserved without prejudice copy: Judge Alex Kozinski, Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals # # # c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson [zip code exempt] ARIZONA REPUBLIC December 10, 1996 FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST Disclosure Officer Office of the Attorney General Department of Justice 10th and Constitution, N.W. Washington, D.C. "Attorney General" [sic] Department of Justice Washington, D.C. Dear Disclosure Officer: This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. 552 et seq., and regulations thereunder. This is My firm promise to pay fees and costs for locating, duplicating, and mailing to Me certified copies of the records requested below. If some of this request is exempt from release, please furnish Me with those portions reasonably segregable. I am requiring certified copies of the documents requested, in lieu of personal inspection of same. Admissible documents requested: 1. Certified copy of the solemn oath of office of one named Janet Reno, as required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and by Article VI, Clause 3, of the Constitution for the United States of America, as lawfully amended. 2. Certified copy of her fidelity bond or surety bond. 3. Certified copy of her Appointment Affidavit, signed and witnessed, for the position she currently claims to occupy. (This is an OMB-approved form.) 4. Certified copy of the formal delegation of authority, beginning with the President, linking all officials in the chain of command between him and the position she currently claims to occupy. 5. Certified copy of her license to practice law in the District of Columbia, if any. The requested records are not exempt from disclosure because they: [Please see next page.] (A) could not reasonably be expected to interfere with law enforcement proceedings; (B) would not deprive a person of a right to a fair trial or an impartial adjudication; (C) could not reasonably be expected to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal property; (D) could not reasonably be expected to disclose the identity of a confidential source; (E) would not disclose techniques and procedures for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions, and would not disclose guidelines for law enforcement investigations or prosecutions; (F) could not reasonably be expected to endanger the life or physical safety of any individual. [see Exemption 7 in FOIA] If you are not the correct person to whom this Freedom of Information Act Request should be directed, kindly forward it to the correct person. Time is of the essence. If you have any questions about your rights and obligations under 5 U.S.C. 552, may we recommend that you contact the office of the Attorney General in Washington, D.C., for immediate assistance. Please see U.S. Postal Service Publication #221 for addressing instructions. Thank you very much for your consideration, and for your timely obedience to the controlling laws in this matter, specifically the Freedom of Information Act and the Constitution for the United States of America, as lawfully amended. Respectfully submitted, /s/ Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Citizen of Arizona state, federal witness, Counselor at Law all rights reserved without prejudice copy: Janet Reno Department of Justice 10th and Constitution, N.W. Washington DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA # # # ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 03 (fwd) Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:11:36 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Thanks to all paid subscribers, without whose support this effort would not be possible. Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 10 Num. 03 ======================================= ("Quid coniuratio est?") THE MANNLICHER-CARCANO BOMB =========================== David Hoffman, author of a forthcoming book *The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror*, offers the following preview of his work-in-progress. Hoffman says his book will be published by Feral House, probably in late 1997. Hoffman publishes the Haight Ashbury Free Press, and has temporarily moved to Oklahoma City to work on this book. ...Was the BATF in fact responsible, knowingly or unknowingly, for the explosion that destroyed the Murrah building? Consider the following article which appeared in the June 5, 1995 issue of Newsweek: "For the past year, the BATF and the Army Corps of Engineers have been blowing up car bombs at the White Sands Proving Ground in New Mexico. The project, code-named Dipole Might, is designed to create a computer model to unravel terrorist car-and truck-bomb attacks. By coincidence, a BATF agent assigned to Dipole Might, happened to be in Oklahoma City on April 19th, working at the Federal Courthouse, which stands across the street from the Murrah Building. He saw the devastation and called the BATF office in Dallas. The Murrah Building had just been hit by 'ANFO' (ammonium material) bomb of at least several thousand pounds, he reported. Within minutes, explosives agents trained under Dipole Might were dispatched to the scene. They identified the type and size of the bomb almost immediately." Just how this agent (Harry Everhart) was able to immediately ascertain the building had been blown up by an ANFO bomb, when no forensic analysis had yet been conducted, is unclear. When Phil O'Halloran, a freelance journalist, attempted to ask the BATF Public Relations Bureau why a Dipole Might expert just happened to be in the courthouse at that moment, and how he could immediately have known the exact nature of the bomb, O'Halloran, rather than be given a rational explanation, was accused of attacking the agency and was promised a fax of agency views on right-wing conspiracists (which never arrived).... It also seems that the "coincidence" of the BATF's Dipole Might tests were uncannily similar to the May 24, 1990 bombing of Earth First! activist Judi Bari. The FBI claimed that Bari and her companion Daryl Cherney, who were on their way to a peaceful protest rally, had inadvertently blown themselves up with their own pipe-bomb. After Bari sued the FBI for false arrest and civil rights violations, she found out through court discovery that the FBI ran a "bomb school" at Eureka College of the Redwoods in April of 1990 for both FBI and local police. The classes included blowing up cars with pipe bombs, ostensibly to demonstrate tactics used by terrorists (the same reason cited in the BATF case). The instructor for this "school of terrorism" was none other than Frank Doyle Jr., the FBI bomb squad expert who showed up at the scene of Bari's car bombing one month later. According to Freedom of Information Act records, the Treasury Department's (BATF is under the Treasury Department) Project Dipole Might was actually initated under the authorization of Clinton's National Security Council. One of the stated purposes of the Dipole Might project was to produce computer models of bombings to "be displayed in a courtroom to aid in the prosecution of defendants." Naturally, the Justice Department plans on using the video tapes shot at White Sands during the trial of McVeigh and Nichols to "prove" that an ANFO bomb blew up the building. As Lawrence Myers, writing in Media Bypass magazine wrote: Why the National Security Council would fund such an ATF project, despite the absolute rarity of the crime, has not been explained. Nor has it been explained as to what specific threat assessment information the government had when it decided to engage in such a project, just a few months before a Ryder Truck laden with ammonium-nitrate fertilizer exploded in front of the Murrah Building. As Myers points out, the last-known case of a truck bomb exploding in the U.S. was in 1970, when an ANFO bomb exploded in front of the ROTC building at the University of Wisconsin, in Madison. Why then, would the National Security Council suddenly feel the need for detailed information regarding ANFO truck-bomb attacks? Was the BATF expecting such a bombing. Were they in fact responsible for blast or the secondary damage to the building? Or was the building wired for demolition as part of a larger plot? "I'm firmly convinced that the BATF is guilty of an awful lot of things," said Bud, our ex-Green Beret friend. "I mean, if you look at what the BATF and the FBI did to Randy Weaver (and at Waco), it's just awful. They've gone hog wild and have [become] a power unto themselves." Asked if he thought a rogue group or special unit within the military/intelligence community could or would commit such an act? "It wouldn't really stun me," said Bud. By David Hoffman, Publisher Haight Ashbury Free Press 6118 N. Meridian, #621 Oklahoma City, OK 73112 http://www.webcom.com/haight (405) 948-1330 (temporarily in Oklahoma City) Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." If you would like "Conspiracy Nation" sent to your e-mail address, send a message in the form "subscribe cn-l My Name" to listproc@cornell.edu (Note: that is "CN-L" *not* "CN-1") For information on how to receive the improved Conspiracy Nation Newsletter, send an e-mail message to bigred@shout.net Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom See also: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html See also: ftp.shout.net pub/users/bigred Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: (fwd)America is Not Yet a Tyranny, But... Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:12:24 -0500 >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:27:22 -0500 >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >Subject: America is Not Yet a Tyranny, But... > >>From "Next Revolution", located at: >http://net.fcref.org/comm/nrcomm/nr121196.htm > > >AMERICA IS NOT YET A TYRANNY, BUT... > > >Commentary by William Lind > >As someone who smokes a pipe, I find a disposable gas >lighter convenient on occasion, if slightly infra dig. >Or at least I did. Recently, disposable gas lighters >sprouted an ugly, annoying, and unnecessary appendage >designed to make them "child proof." When I asked >my tobacconist for a lighter without that impediment, >he told me, "It's the law." > >In a nation conceived in liberty some two hundred years >ago, we now find the swinish snout of the Federal government >poking into every nook and cranny of our lives. Government >tells us what kind of bottle caps we must have on our medicine >(caps we can't get off), compels us to buy only "low flow" shower >heads and toilets (that don't rinse and don't flush), and forbids >people in California to plow firebreaks around their houses lest >some type of rat be injured (with the result that their houses >burn down). Government commands me to have air bags in my car, so >that in a minor accident, an explosive device will shove my pipe >down my throat at some 200 miles per hour. In my home town of >Cleveland, the Federal government's EPA demands auto emissions >testing on a high speed treadmill, which has reportedly destroyed >the engines of hundreds of cars. > >If we supposedly free people dare complain about all this intrusion -- >intrusion far worse than anything King George visited on our ancestors -- >we're told, "It's for your own good, of course. It's for safety. F >or clean air. For 'bio-diversity.'" Or the biggest canard of all, "It's >for children." Poor children; what crimes are now committed in your name. > >It's hogwash, all of it. We see that in the ongoing air bag scandal, >where the government for decades knew that air bags were often >dangerous, but suppressed the evidence. Why? Because what this >burgeoning government interference in our daily lives is really all >about is power. It is about accustoming Americans to having every >detail of what we do controlled by government, until government >is all-powerful. > >There is a name for that kind of government: a tyranny. When militia >leaders and others denounce the American government as a >tyranny, they are called "extremists," "weirdoes," "nut cases." But >who is really the nut case: A government that forces us to buy a car >with a device that will knock grandma's or baby's head off, or the >people who find that objectionable? A free country would know the >answer to that question, and act on it. > >America is not yet a tyranny, but the culturally Marxist Establishment >that runs the place knows what it wants: a country where >ultimately, every activity is either forbidden or compulsory. >That is a tyranny, and they will continue to move us down that road, >step by little step. They will -- unless we stop them. >=========================================================== >J.J. & Helen Johnson - Fridays - 8:00 pm EST - WWCR 5.070 Mhz >E Pluribus Unum >P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 >Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 >Web Site - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html >"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 > > > "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: (fwd)How to Liberate our Culture Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:16:04 -0500 >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:43:51 -0500 >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >Subject: How to Liberate our Culture > >>From "The Next Revolution", located at: >http://net.fcref.org/comm/nrcomm/nr120496.htm > > >HOW TO LIBERATE OUR CULTURE > >Commentary by J. Bradley Keena > >This week, in an informal debate on a Philadelphia television station, >Marianne Lombardi and I faced off against three ardent supporters of >Political Correctness. Our opponents included a Feminist who calls >herself an African American, a man who said the federal government >calls him a Native American, and a homosexual who insisted that he >be called "gay." > >Off camera, the feminist, referring to my statement that not all blacks >are African, quipped to one of the other panelists, "How do you like >that white American defending Jamaicans?" Now I'm here to tell you >she was dead wrong. You see, I'm not a white American. >I'm an American. > >Later in the program, the show's host asked the gentleman panelist if he >preferred being called a "Native American." His answer was surprising. >He said it was the federal government which began calling him that. At >first he was considered an Indian. Later he was described on government >forms as an "American Indian." Only recently, he explained, has the >federal government adopted the label "Native American." Now I'm here to >tell you, the federal government is wrong. He's not a "Native American." >He's an American. > >Finally the homosexual spoke up. He was angry that NET has now decided to >call those who practice sexual deviancy homosexuals instead of what he >wanted to be called. He told us, "I'm not a homosexual, that's a clinical term; >I'm gay." > >Now, I'm here to tell you, he was wrong. He didn't seem very gay >at the time. In fact, joyfulness and happiness did not seem to be >words fit for his demeanor. >Certainly, though, he is a homosexual. > >After our brief discussion with the Feminist, the Indian, and the >homosexual, the program took calls from viewers who are very tired >of Political Correctness. But like many people, they are often afraid >to say what they really think about the cultural Marxism of our >time. Several blacks told about being tired of having to always be >called "African Americans." Others said they don't believe any group >should be labeled. And that's precisely the point. > >Cultural Marxism insists on the very labels NET has now rejected. >The real problem is that each of the PC labels comes with >stereotypical group identities. Each group is defined as either >the oppressor or the victim. History is rewritten to support the >ideology of oppression and victimhood. Even animals are said to be >victims of the so-called white male oppressors. > >The end result is the consolidation of power by social engineers, >control of the people by cultural intimidation, and the retooling of >morality to an esoteric collection of shifting standards. God is >no longer sovereign in the world of the cultural Marxists; instead, God >has been recreated in their own image. > >But cultural Marxism cannot prevail. It is the real oppressor, >and we are its true victims. Man was created in God's own image. >God is the sovereign creator of all mankind. To that end, each of the >human subjects of cultural Marxism were born with a conscience. God's >moral absolutes were written into that conscience, not the values of >Political Correctness. > >Meanwhile, people by nature abhor tyranny. Cultural Marxism has >become the great tyranny of our time. Let us no longer be afraid to >speak out against it and defy its dictates. With our eyes fixed on >God, our hearts in submission to God's sovereignty, and our arms >locked together, let us march as a nation out of the darkness of >Political Correctness and into the light of God's truth > >=========================================================== >J.J. & Helen Johnson - Fridays - 8:00 pm EST - WWCR 5.070 Mhz >E Pluribus Unum >P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 >Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 >Web Site - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html >"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 > > > "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: All Rights Reserved, clarifying Date: 15 Jan 1997 06:55:58 -0800 [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] General Reservation of Rights Please be advised that my use of the phrase "All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice" below my signature on this document means: (1) that I explicitly reject any and all benefits of the Uniform Commercial Code, absent a valid commercial agreement which is in force and to which I am a party, and cite its provisions herein only to serve notice upon ALL agencies of government, whether international, national, state or local, that they, and not I, are subject to, and bound by, all of its provisions, whether cited herein or not; (2) that my explicit reservation of Rights has served notice upon ALL agencies of government of the "Remedy" which they must provide for me under Article 1, Section 207 of the Uniform Commercial Code, whereby I have explicitly reserved my Common Law Right not to be compelled to perform under any contract or commercial agreement that I have not entered into knowingly, voluntarily, and intentionally; (3) that my explicit reservation of Rights has served notice upon ALL agencies of government that they are ALL limited to proceeding against me only in harmony with the Common Law and that I do not, and will not accept the liability associated with the "compelled" benefit of any unrevealed commercial agreements; and (4) that my valid reservation of Rights has preserved all my Rights and prevented the loss of any such Rights by application of the concepts of waiver or estoppel. # # # This is a general expansion of the meaning, as clarified by the late Howard Freeman. This expansion can be used to good effect in all courts of law, state and federal. /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Government Cheats Reserves Date: 16 Jan 1997 00:15:19 PST "On Jan 15, Gene Gross -- Personal Account wrote:" >Folks, this one just makes my blood boil!! If they serve, they deserve to >receive what is due them!! Gene > >SAFAN ALERT: January 15, 1997 > >GOVERNMENT CHEATS RESERVES >by R. King (freeking@hub.ofthe.net) > >Army Reserves from Lubbock TX were sent to serve in Bosnia >recently. Of course many Reservist leave higher paying jobs to >serve. The government of this United States of America makes >certain promises that their families will receive compensation >while the soldiers are on active duty. > >The government has now notified them that there is not money >to compensate the families.......and they will actually get four >percent (4%) of what they were promised. Apparently the >government could not do these mathematical calculations >BEFORE they sent the soldiers away. > >What would they do to you if you sent them 4% of what they think >you owe on income taxes? > >GOD BLESS AMERICA > >RHK > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > SAFAN %Dot Bibee (DotHB@aol.com) Ph/FAX (423) 577-7011 > SAFAN Internet Newsletters are archived on David Feustel's Page > http://feustel.mixi.net 219-483-1857 E-Mailto: feustel@mixi.net >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Looks like it's _really_ getting to be time to start firing up the old County Sheriff etc., run State Militias; The FedGov can no longer afford to defend us! Perhaps those Reservists should stop in Washington DC on their way home; Just for a quick visit you understand. Can you say "Drum Head Courts Martial", followed by, "Military Field Expediency Punishment?" -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: [Fwd: C-NEWS: Story About Women Against Gun Control] (fwd) Date: 16 Jan 1997 08:35:38 -0600 (CST) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915762710-232998442-853425338=:23619 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII --1915762710-232998442-853425338=:23619 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Posted to texas-gun-owners by Lawrence Kennon Message-ID: >FRONT PAGE STORY in today's Salt Lake City Deseret News > >Subject: Story about Women Against Gun Control > >http://www.desnews.com/cit/wag.htm > >[Deseret News Web Edition] > >Utah mother leads fight to bear arms > >Women's group has grown from 6 to 600, plans to play big role in >states' debates. >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > >By Chip Parkinson >Deseret News staff writer > >[Image] > >Janalee Tobias hasn't checked her e-mail for a week. She cringes at >what waits -- an avalanche of messages that will take her hours to >read, let alone answer. > >There will be invitations to speak, pleas to continue her good >work, stories that make her cry, and universally one question: >''How do I get involved?'' > >To her pen pals, Tobias is a model gun activist -- a mother who >speaks up fearlessly for the right to bear arms, the informed >leader of a burgeoning grass-roots movement known as Women Against >Gun Control. > >There are other female-oriented gun groups, but Tobias and her >organization are the first in Utah to tap the promising vein of >non-corporate citizen activism. > >These are doctors, housewives, secretaries, lawyers and >grandmothers who say they've realized on their own the folly of gun >control. They aren't a group of women hand-picked by the National >Rifle Association. They don't have much clout with lawmakers yet, >and they certainly aren't backed by big money. > >Yet more join their regular ranks monthly, via the Internet, via >word of mouth, via gun shows. They share the power of common >thought that may be as much about what it means to be female in >urban America as it is about the barrel of a gun. > >The South Jordan woman didn't start with such raw energy behind her >or even with the values she and more than 600 women from Boston to >Albuquerque say they hold inviolate. > >''My husband owned guns, and I couldn't understand his infatuation >with them. I mean I bought into the idea that guns cause crime and >we ought to get rid of them,'' she said. > >Tobias wondered, too, about the safety of her three children. She >was scared that her babies would be seriously injured by a loaded >weapon no matter how well-secured it was. > >Change came in the form of a challenge to Tobias' well-grounded >sense of independence. > >It began in late 1993 when Salt Lake Mayor Deedee Corradini >proposed an ordinance requiring a seven-day wait for anyone under >25 who wanted to buy a gun. Two weeks later, she announced a gun >buy-back program. On the heels of that came news that Hillary >Rodham Clinton would ban handguns outright if she had her way. > >''I started asking myself, 'Hey, do I really want to see more >restrictions from the government?' So I began doing some research >on my own,'' Tobias said. > >She admits she consulted mostly pro-gun sources such as licensed >dealers and statistics provided by the NRA, but she qualifies her >lack of broad-based study with the idea that she already understood >arguments supporting more restrictions. > >Her study led her to a conclusion oft-repeated by gun supporters >everywhere: Guns don't cause violence, people do. It's as true as >it is simple, Tobias insists. > >''If we could hermetically seal a city and rid it of all guns, do >you really think there wouldn't be violence?'' > >Her conclusions firmly entrenched, Tobias organized a courthouse >protest against Corradini's proposal. More than 50 people showed up >-- many of whom would later make up the founding mothers of Women >Against Gun Control. > >''I remember at the time that all the biggest gun grabbers were >women. I thought it was a terrible precedent to have women in >positions of power trying to take away guns,'' Tobias said. > >More now than ever, women should fight for the right to arm >themselves if they choose, she reasons. > >That philosophy is the defining difference between her organization >and any other pro-gun group. It is, Tobias acknowledges, the >group's femininity that attracts the kind of attention it receives. > >''Women are supposed to hate guns and be scared of them. They are >so visible nationally and locally as being anti-gun.'' Her group >has begun to send a message to Utah and the nation that not all >women are for gun control, Tobias said. > >Since its birth two years ago, the organization has grown from six >to nearly 600. It recently opened a chapter in New Mexico; a woman >in Vermont wants to open one in her hometown, and Tobias gets >inquiries regularly about organizing chapters elsewhere. > >The group's monthly newsletter, titled ''The BULLETin,'' and logoed >T-shirts are hot items at gun shows around the West. Tobias, >herself, is the target of pro-gun advocacy organizations seeking a >female perspective. > >In fact, it is only the busy schedules of the WAGC women that have >prevented more explosive growth, Tobias believes. > >''It's really frustrating being a citizen activist. We take time >off work, hold organizing meetings early in the morning and late at >night, pay for long distance phone calls, pay for baby sitters and >stamps,'' she said. ''It's hard work.'' > >So why continue? > >''To me, it's simple,'' said Sarah Thompson, a founding member of >Women Against Gun Control and a physician who earned her stripes in >the emergency rooms of Los Angeles County. ''We live in a violent >society, and the police have no legal obligation to protect any >individual, therefore we have an obligation to protect ourselves >and our loved ones. Women have to know that and learn how to >practice it.'' > >The group found instant credibility and clout in a female physician >convinced that gun-control doesn't work. > >''Yes, I've seen the violence a gun can do. But I understand that >banning them isn't the answer,'' Thompson tells anyone who will >listen. > >The solution is better -- even mandated -- education at the >elementary school level, both Thompson and Tobias agree. > >Tobias acknowledges Women Against Gun Control is still in its >philosophical infancy and will have to mature into a more defined >platform to gain credibility. > >Meantime, Tobias and others, including members of the New Mexico >chapter, figure to play a big role in gun-related debates during >their state legislative sessions. > >[Image] > >Published 11 January, ) 1997 Deseret News Publishing Co. >Sarah Thompson, M.D. >PO Box 271231 >Salt Lake City, UT 84127-1231 >801-966-7278 (voice mail and fax) >http://www.therighter.com > >"The irresistable is often only that which is not resisted." >Justice Louis Brandeis > >GO JAZZ!!!!!! > > >**************************************************************************** >Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues >Send a blank message to: freematt@coil.com with the words subscribe FA >on the subject line. 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Brown A a member of the National Rifle Association's Board, I am nominating a list of candidates for the board this year because I believe we need some new leadership. It is the job of the National Rifle Association to lead the fight defending firearm rights on all fronts. That is what the members expect and that is why they pay their money. Unfortunately, the NRA seems recently to have become confused about how to do its job. Two examples spring immediately to mind: In the closing days of the 104th Congress, Senate Democrats doing Clinton's bidding managed to ramrod through a dramatic expansion of the Gun Control Act of 1968. Now, for the first time ever, having certain misdemeanors on your record is enough to allow the government to revoke your gun rights, even confiscate your guns. Why didn't headquarters get the membership in an uproar? Because they were asleep at the switch when the Senate let this insidious amendment slip through. Some versions of the story even have NRA staffers giving the amendment the OK. Others say that passage of the misdemeanor gun ban was Newt Gingrich's revenge for being forced to hold a politically damaging vote to repeal the "assault weapons" ban even when it was D.O.A. in the Senate. Either way, the trail leads to headquarters. A serious indictment of the manner in which the NRA operates in the political arena came up during these last general elections. We failed, it seems, to recognize the fact that the need for Republican control of the Senate to block Clinton's Supreme Court and Federal court nominations, was more Important than the egos of some NRA staff members. In Wyoming, the NRA rated both the Democratic and Republican Candidates for the U.S. Senate equally-and as a result stayed out of the race. The Democrat is a flaming liberal woman who never had a hunting license and borrowed a shotgun to make a "progun" TV commercial, much like Bill Clinton. The woman, who helped write the anti-gun policies for the Democratic party and who is a good friend of the Clintons, fooled the NRA, but not NRA members in Wyoming. As a result the NRA ignored its Wyoming members and gave this woman an "A" rating. Mike Enzi, a conservative, lifelong hunter, won the election, but he is not likely to forget how the NRA was duped by the Democrats. These are but two of the many mistakes that were made by the NRA because the current board was not strong enough. That is why I offer the following names, to restrengthen the NRA so that we can more effectively defend the Second Amendment during the next four Clinton years: Lt. Col. Rex Applegate USA (Ret.) Lt. Col. Robert K. Brown, USAR (Ret.) David 1. Caplan, Ph.D. Col. Jeff Cooper, USMC (Ret.) Mr. Joe Foss, MOH Wayne Anthony Ross Mr. Al Rubega I feel so strongly about electing these individuals, that in this instance I am endorsing "bullet balloting," which means if you vote only for the seven individuals listed above, and no one else, your vote will have the weight of all 26 votes. While we're at it, if you are not a member of the NRA, or wish to upgrade to a lifetime membership, call them at 800-NRA-3888. In this election, we need all the horsepower we can get. ------------------ The following is a Legislative Alert from THE FIREARMS COALITION OF COLORADO TITLE:Penny wise and pound foolish can mean a lifetime ban on firearms possession RETROACTIVE PUNISHMENT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL! Hopefully most of us will never have to face the issue of domestic violence in our families. The real issue in H.R. 3610, an appropriations act, is an attack on the Bill of Rights, not domestic violence. Anyone who commits an act of domestic violence deserves to be punished, but retroactive punishment is patently unconstitutional. If we allow them to get away with it on this issue, they can do it for any conviction. For example, say to avoid going to court, you plea bargain a traffic ticket down to some lesser point offense. Then in the interest of highway safety, they retroactively raise the points on that offense, and take your license away. TAKE THE SAFEST COURSE TO AVOID DOMESTIC VIOLENCE Of course, the safest way to avoid these types of problems is to steer clear of those situations that can lead to violence. Take a walk, cool off, even move out. Do not use violence or the threat of violence. A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CONVICTION WILL DENY YOU THE RIGHT TO POSSESS A FIREARM H.R. 3610 takes away your right to possess a firearm if you match the following circumstances: (1) Conviction of a crime of domestic violence that is a misdemeanor under Federal or State law, and (2) has as a part, the use or attempted use of physical force, or the threatened use of a deadly weapon, and (3) committed by a current or former spouse, or parent or guardian of the victim, or by a person with whom the victim shares a child in common, or by a person who has cohabited with the victim, a spouse, parent or guardian. HIRING AN ATTORNEY SAVES A LOT OF GRIEF It is just common sense to hire an attorney any time you are charged with a crime, misdemeanors included. Unfortunately, some of you plead guilty in a plea bargain to a domestic violence charge when you were not guilty. You thought it was no big deal and you saved a chunk of change on attorneys' fees. Now you find that Congress has passed a bill that retroactively punishes you for that misdemeanor domestic violence conviction. Now you can't possess a firearm. You say your job requires a firearm? Or you're a hunter, or a collector, or involved in shooting sports? Sorry, it looks like you're out of luck. you will have to wait for someone with big bucks to take it to the Supreme Court. It may take several years. In the past, some of you may have had an excuse to roll over and plead guilty even if you were innocent, but now the rest of you are forewarned. Hire an attorney, and count on spending at least $2,500! DISPOSITION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CHARGES Once you are charged with domestic violence several different results are possible, as follows: 1) Guilty 2) Charges dismissed. 3) Not guilty. 4) Deferred Prosecution. 5) Deferred Judgement. 6) Deferred Sentence. Of course in items 2 and 3, you are home free except for a possible records problem. More about that later. In items 4, 5, and 6 you essentially admit guilt and promise to sin no more. At least you agree to stay out of trouble for some period of time. It could be several months to several years. Once that period is over, you or your attorney can petition to have the records sealed. Once the records are sealed, you can possess firearms. Not Guilty? Better Check Your Records Many people are denied firearms under Brady due to incomplete records on the disposition of their case. The authorities are meticulous about entering the arrest data, but put a significantly lower priority on the disposition of the cases. If you fall under categories 2 through 6 above, check your records. You may get an unpleasant surprise. CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND BOTH SENATORS, TELL THEM TO REPEAL THIS LAW AS UNCONSTITUTIONAL! --------------------------- The following is a Legislative Alert from THE FIREARMS COALITION OF COLORADO TITLE: Beware, lest the "Zone" traps you! "GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONE" IS A TRAP FOR THE UNWARY As you drive on an interstate highway, a state highway, a main thoroughfare or a side street, it may lurk just out of sight. It's there waiting for you, the "Gun Free School Zone". Ignorance is no excuse. Do you think that you can get off by saying, "Gee, officer, I didn't know that I was within l,000 feet of a school. There will be no signs posted, there is only one solution, repeal! Unconstitutional Law Rises From the Dead An innocuous Federal appropriations bill, (H.R 3610) resurrected the infamous "Gun Free School Zone" that had previously been declared unconstitutional. The provision was originally part of the Crime control Act of 1990. The Supreme Court in a 5 1 decision in U.S. versus Lopez, declared that Congress had "overstepped its constitutional powers to regulate interstate commerce when it banned possession of a firearm within 1,000 feet of a school". In an attempt to overcome the Supreme Courts' objections, this years' version declares that the law would apply to a firearm that has "moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce." Since virtually all firearms or their components have crossed state lines, this bill probably covers all firearms. Again, it will be up to the courts to decide its constitutionality. School Zone Defined The U.S. Code (18 U.S.C. 921) defines a "school zone" to be any place "in or on the ground of a public, parochial, or private school or within a distance of 1,000 feet of a public, parochial or private school . . ." This section also defines a "school" as a place which "provides elementary or secondary education as determined by state law." The 1,000 feet starts at the edge of the school property. 1,000 feet is about three long city blocks. Exceptions Defined The "Gun Free School Zone Act's" provisions do not apply to: Firearms on private properly; Firearms which are unloaded and in a locked container or locked firearms rack in a motor vehicle; Unloaded firearms possessed while traversing school grounds to gain access to lands open for hunting, if the entry is authorized by the school; Persons licensed by state or local authorities; Individuals using a firearm in a school program; Law enforcement officers acting in an official capacity. The public streets and sidewalks including those right in front of your home are not exempt. BLM, National Forests, State lands, etc. are not exempt. Those of you who carry a firearm for self protection and do not have a concealed carry permit will now be in violation of federal law when you pass through a "school zone". Unfortunately, most of population of Colorado resides in jurisdictions that refuse to issue concealed carry permits. This is another weapon to ensure that we cannot protect ourselves. How many of you have bureaucratically approved locked containers or firearms racks to transport all the firearms you may wish to take shooting? Are Roadblocks Authorized? Roadblocks are not mentioned in this legislation. But, there are many instances where you can be subject to search. A routine traffic stop. Check points where all vehicles are stopped, such as a safety check points, sobriety check points, game checks, etc. In any of these cases an officer could spot your firearm. They may ask you permission to search your car, but you should refuse to give permission for any reason. THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION This legislation must be repealed. We cannot count on the courts. We must send a message to our legislators, demand that this legislation be repealed. Of course, the surefire solution is to get active in politics and throw out any legislator who votes for gun control legislation. end doug davis --------------3AB977E1E05-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Won Tonics Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:55:43 -0800 >To: williamf@gusun.acc.georgetown.edu >From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >Subject: Politonics > >>Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:52:10 -0800 >>To: GovtAware-L@Citadel.net >>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >>Subject: Politonics >> >>The radio did a take-off on "Ebonics" >>this morning, roasting every nationality >>under the sun. Italians speak "Rigatonics," >>and if I can stop laughing, I will try to >>remember all the rest of them, and share >>them for you here. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >> >>p.s. Chinese speak "Won Tonics"; >> Irish speak "Gin Tonics". >> White House Press Corps speak "Clintonics". >> >>Have it, everyone! >> >> >> >>At 09:35 AM 1/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >>>On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Gary L. Tyler wrote: >>> >>>> Politonics is a language spoken by those who spend inordinate amounts of >>>> time in Washington D.C. (and to a smaller extent various state capitols and >>>> city halls). It is cross between politics and phonics. It can be >>>> distinguished by: >>>> 1) using the greatest number of words possible to say nothing >>>> 2) leaving the listener (reader) wondering "What he say?" >>> >>>*chuckle* Did you see the piece in the Economist a couple >>>of week back about "Federish"? 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Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: The Freeman of Montana Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:31:20 -0800 Paul Mitchell speculates infra: At 12:29 AM 1/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >Two questions came to mind as I read this: > >> > >From the "Dallas Morning News" Online: >> > >> > Authorities study links in fraud cases >> > By Thomas G. Watts / The Dallas Morning News >> > 01/11/97 >> > > > > >> > >> > The Dallas Morning News identified 65 criminal cases >> > or investigations involving 151 people with Freemen ties >> > in those 23 states through government records, reports by >> > monitoring agencies, and other sources. > >Question 1: > >What "monitoring agencies" are involved in these investigations? I can only speculate here. Do you want me to? (see below) > >Question 2: > >What are people with "Freemen ties"? People who attended the seminars; people who used the warrants; people who openly "sympathize"; people who were arrested in Jordan; people who are related to those arrested; people who live in the bunk house; people who threatened Paul Mitchell; people who conspired to stiff Paul Mitchell; people who tampered with Paul Mitchell's front brakes; people who cleaned out Paul Mitchell's legal office in Colton; people who chauffered Paul Mitchell at 95 mph, barely avoiding a broadside in the high desert; people who removed $50K from Broderick's private locker; people who investigated Broderick's Orange County lien; people who were requested to investigate extortion by Broderick's associates (and other crimes); people who tried to enter Paul Mitchell's hotel room, while he was in the room, on the telephone; people who tailed Paul Mitchell all around the Essex Hotel in Palmdale/Lancaster; people who filmed Paul Mitchell's private lecture at the Essex Hotel, and stole the videotape; people who were convicted as Broderick's co-defendants; people who are related to those co-defendants; people who paid Elizabeth Broderick to attend Leroy's seminars; people who witnessed Paul Mitchell attempt to assist Broderick at her "arraignment"; people who tried to film Paul Mitchell cross Spring Street after the arraignment; people who tried to interview Paul Mitchell as he crossed Spring Street after the arraignment; people who smacked Paul Mitchell's companion in the head with a video camera in the middle of Spring Street; People who told Paul Mitchell that he would be getting paid "soon"; and so on, and so on. There are probably more. This is a media "spin" term, if you know what I mean. /s/ Paul Mitchell > > > >> > >> > Freemen leader LeRoy M. Schweitzer, who taught the >> > classes, believed that the money orders he could spin out >> > of a home computer and laser printer were as legitimate >> > as those purchased at a bank. He said the banking system >> > was illegal and not supported by real money since the >> > nation went off the gold standard in 1933. He also >> > asserted that the Federal Reserve system was >> > unconstitutional. >> > >> > That philosophy is shared by many in the anti-government >> > or Patriot movement - particularly tax protesters. >> > > >The excerpt above contains the answer to question 2: > >What are people with "Freemen ties"? > >People with "Freemen ties" are people who assert that >the Federal Reserve system is unconstitutional. Not necessarily. People with "Freemen ties" could also encompass prosecutor Nora Manella, who convicted Elizabeth Broderick in Los Angeles, but officials in DOJ have now confirmed, in writing, that Nora Manella has no credentials, either in the federal building in Los Angeles, or anywhere in Washington, D.C. Plot thickens here. > >Then people with "Freemen ties" must include me. If you are a "Free Man," then you must be a "Freeman", and then you are surely one of the several "Freemen", (pursuant to Title 1, U.S.C.) which also embraces "Free Women", not to be confused with ladies of ill repute (or does it?) /s/ Paul Mitchell p.s. Leroy, are you listening to this? > > > >> > >> > Joe Roy, the head of the Southern Poverty Law Center's >> > Klanwatch unit that monitors extremist groups, said >> > prosecutors are right to target the Freemen disciples. >> > >> > "The big thing is that a lot of these guys are potentially >> > dangerous," Mr. Roy said. "They are at war with the >> > United States, and the government is starting to take them >> > seriously." >> > >> > The associate director of the Anti-Defamation League's >> > Washington office, Michael Lieberman, urged the Justice >> > Department to establish a task force to concentrate on >> > Freemen activities - similar to one set up in the 1980s to >> > target the then-growing skinhead movement. >> > > >The excerpt above contains the answer to question 1: > >What "monitoring agencies" are involved in these investigations? > >The Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League. > >----------------------- Bottom Line ----------------------- > >"There is a Freemen tentacle throughout the country." >--Michael Lieberman > Director, Anti-Defamation League, Washington office > >There is a "tentacle throughout the country" alright, >but it's not "a Freemen tentacle." It's a land conversion racket being orchestrated most probably out of the federal building in downtown Los Angeles, with the help of many federal employees working in, or with, that locale. Most of the people who attended Elizabeth Broderick's seminars were Vietnamese and Hispanics, who would not understand federal law even if it were translated into their native languages. (Educated people have enough trouble understanding it in native English.) They certainly did not understand my lectures, delivered in collect-level English. The FBI stole my best lecture, after they absconded with the videotape. Just "follow the paper" (a la Deep Throat): 1. warrant tendered to lender 2. lender clears it thru FRB 3. FRB routes it to FBI 4. FBI routes it to Nora Manella 5. Manella "coordinates" sting with other DOJ offices across the nation 6. real properties are foreclosed; borrowers are evicted and/or convicted 7. properties are traded inside, at 25 cents on the dollar (one in Tucson went for $60K v. $240K market) 8. final "owner" sells property at market, making 300% return on "investment" (or more) 9. many federal agents are reaping windfalls through this racket 10. FBI may not have a valid charter; Louis Freeh is reported to be looking for an "out" (read "graceful exit") I have applied for Intervention of Right, pursuant to FRCP Rule 24(a), in Broderick's civil case. Manella responded with three (3) other AUSA's listed under her name. Reinforcements? You bet; she needs them, desperately, as this thing unravels rather quickly now. /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: The Freeman of Montana Date: 16 Jan 1997 15:20:45 -0500 Paul, what are you saying here? Are you being sarcastic, or do you believe that you are being investigated for ties to the Freemen of Montana? Pardon me for being trite, but this read like some sort of paranoia. Of course, if you have been issuing all kinds of liens and warrents and writing checks against the liens, etc. - it might pay to be a little paranoid. ciao, jcurtis > >Paul Mitchell speculates infra: > >>> > >>> > The Dallas Morning News identified 65 criminal cases >>> > or investigations involving 151 people with Freemen ties >>> > in those 23 states through government records, reports by >>> > monitoring agencies, and other sources. >> >> >>Question 2: >> >>What are people with "Freemen ties"? > >People who attended the seminars; >people who used the warrants; >people who openly "sympathize"; >people who were arrested in Jordan; >people who are related to those arrested; >people who live in the bunk house; >people who threatened Paul Mitchell; >people who conspired to stiff Paul Mitchell; >people who tampered with Paul Mitchell's front brakes; >people who cleaned out Paul Mitchell's legal office in Colton; >people who chauffered Paul Mitchell at 95 mph, > barely avoiding a broadside in the high desert; >people who removed $50K from Broderick's private locker; >people who investigated Broderick's Orange County lien; >people who were requested to investigate extortion by > Broderick's associates (and other crimes); >people who tried to enter Paul Mitchell's hotel room, > while he was in the room, on the telephone; >people who tailed Paul Mitchell all around the Essex Hotel > in Palmdale/Lancaster; >people who filmed Paul Mitchell's private lecture at the > Essex Hotel, and stole the videotape; >people who were convicted as Broderick's co-defendants; >people who are related to those co-defendants; >people who paid Elizabeth Broderick to attend Leroy's > seminars; >people who witnessed Paul Mitchell attempt to assist > Broderick at her "arraignment"; >people who tried to film Paul Mitchell cross Spring Street > after the arraignment; >people who tried to interview Paul Mitchell as he crossed > Spring Street after the arraignment; >people who smacked Paul Mitchell's companion in the head > with a video camera in the middle of Spring Street; >People who told Paul Mitchell that he would be getting paid "soon"; > >and so on, and so on. > >There are probably more. This is a >media "spin" term, if you know what >I mean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Ferris Subject: Clinton Picks Super Bowl Champs in Advance Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:01:53 -0500 (EST) THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE (Noban/Roc News Service, Washington, D.C., January 16, 1997) Surrounded by a huddle of Secret Service left tackles as well as left guards, (right guards and tackles having been sacked as politically unreliable), President Clinton announced today his "pick" of this year's Super Bowl champs, as follows: "For many years, I have loathed patriots of all types, and that loathing continues. I cannot and I will not support any team which celebrates the heroic deeds of men who dared to fight for freedom in 1775. Accordingly, I am throwing my support to the Green (Jacketed Tory Boston Back) Bay (Brown Bess) Packers, Clintonista loyalists who know that I am their sovereign king and who view the New England Patriots as `rebel rabble'." White House spokesperson Mike McCurry added, "The President has made clear to the directors of all federal law enforcement agencies that overt supporters of the New England Patriots are to be regarded as `domestic extremists' and that the names of all such persons will be entered into a national counterintelligence database as part of `Operation Stop Pats'. This grouping of Patriots and their fans in New Orleans could constitute the greatest threat to U.S. national security since the President threw a tantrum during a White House meeting at which Red Chinese arms merchant Wang Jun tried to give the President a free semi-auto Poly Tech AKS when the President wanted only the full auto AK-47 version of the same rifle. You cannot fool Super Prez. In the end, he got the full auto rock and roll model. He may even bring it to New Orleans to celebrate by cranking off rounds into the air if the Packers win. I have warned him not to do so, saying, `It's a Crime, Bill', all to no avail." THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE Christopher C. Ferris Litchfield NH ferriscc@mainstream.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: The Freeman of Montana Date: 16 Jan 1997 19:10:29 -0800 At 03:20 PM 1/16/97 -0500, you wrote: > > Paul, what are you saying here? Are you being sarcastic, or do > you believe that you are being investigated for ties to the > Freemen of Montana? I am under active surveillance, and one of their "agents" penetrated my living room, and then threatened my life 12 times. I am not being sarcastic. This really happened. This guy was staying as a guest in my house, because he needed "shelter." When I and the landlord demanded that he leave, he took with him $1,200 worth of my computer equipment, books, cash, and other incidental things. Now his accessory is acting like I was to blame for the whole incident. The man in question was just arrested to appear and answer to a federal grand jury indictment for methamphetamine manufacture in Oregon, near the town of Burns. /s/ Paul Mitchell > > Pardon me for being trite, but this read like some sort of > paranoia. Tell that to the auto mechanic who called me over to see the front wheel he had just disassembled. When I got there, he pointed to the right-front wheel and asked me, "And you were driving this?" I had taken the car to him, because of strange noises which were coming from the right-front wheel. The brake caliber machine bolts had been removed or unfastened. One bolt was the wrong size for that particular hole. /s/ Paul Mitchell Of course, if you have been issuing all kinds of > liens and warrents and writing checks against the liens, etc. - > it might pay to be a little paranoid. I have not done any traffic in these liens. I was Counsel to Broderick, and then to Schweitzer. Once I figured it out, I had to go. Billings has refused to return my personal belongings, which include important computer files, important documents like the Zolton letter, and many other important things which I cannot replace. Moreover, they stiffed me for $10,000 in legal fees. Why has Schweitzer now fallen silent? My client in Tucson, a trust, had used several Broderick warrants to boost their business; this I learned from Adolf Hoch when he was chauffering me at 95 miles per hour in his supercharged Buick Riviera, which he bought with cash. He almost rammed a small car crossing a dark 2-lane desert road; the driver misjudged how fast Adolf was bearing down on him, he braked, and then accelerated just fast enough for Adolf's race car to miss the guy's rear bumper by 24 inches or so. My heart was in my throat for the rest of that trip. /s/ Paul Mitchell > > ciao, > > jcurtis > > >> >>Paul Mitchell speculates infra: >> >>>> > >>>> > The Dallas Morning News identified 65 criminal cases >>>> > or investigations involving 151 people with Freemen ties >>>> > in those 23 states through government records, reports by >>>> > monitoring agencies, and other sources. >>> >>> >>>Question 2: >>> >>>What are people with "Freemen ties"? >> >>People who attended the seminars; >>people who used the warrants; >>people who openly "sympathize"; >>people who were arrested in Jordan; >>people who are related to those arrested; >>people who live in the bunk house; >>people who threatened Paul Mitchell; >>people who conspired to stiff Paul Mitchell; >>people who tampered with Paul Mitchell's front brakes; >>people who cleaned out Paul Mitchell's legal office in Colton; >>people who chauffered Paul Mitchell at 95 mph, >> barely avoiding a broadside in the high desert; >>people who removed $50K from Broderick's private locker; >>people who investigated Broderick's Orange County lien; >>people who were requested to investigate extortion by >> Broderick's associates (and other crimes); >>people who tried to enter Paul Mitchell's hotel room, >> while he was in the room, on the telephone; >>people who tailed Paul Mitchell all around the Essex Hotel >> in Palmdale/Lancaster; >>people who filmed Paul Mitchell's private lecture at the >> Essex Hotel, and stole the videotape; >>people who were convicted as Broderick's co-defendants; >>people who are related to those co-defendants; >>people who paid Elizabeth Broderick to attend Leroy's >> seminars; >>people who witnessed Paul Mitchell attempt to assist >> Broderick at her "arraignment"; >>people who tried to film Paul Mitchell cross Spring Street >> after the arraignment; >>people who tried to interview Paul Mitchell as he crossed >> Spring Street after the arraignment; >>people who smacked Paul Mitchell's companion in the head >> with a video camera in the middle of Spring Street; >>People who told Paul Mitchell that he would be getting paid "soon"; >> >>and so on, and so on. >> >>There are probably more. This is a >>media "spin" term, if you know what >>I mean. > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: (fwd)TREASON!!! Date: 17 Jan 1997 06:18:49 -0500 >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:23:31 -0500 >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >Subject: TREASON!!! > >Handgun Registration Act of 1997 (Introduced in the House) > >HR 186 IH > > 105th CONGRESS > > 1st Session > > H. R. 186 > >To provide for the mandatory registration of handguns. > > IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES > > January 7, 1997 > >Mr. HASTINGS of Florida introduced the following bill; which was >referred to the Committee on the Judiciary > > A BILL > >To provide for the mandatory registration of handguns. > > Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the > United States of America in Congress assembled, > >SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. > > This Act may be cited as the `Handgun Registration Act of 1997'. > >=============================================================================== > >I omitted the text of this piece of treasonous dreck. The entirety of the bill >can be found by searching the Thomas Server, located at: http://thomas.loc.gov/ > >If you have not yet signed onto "Drawing the Line", I strongly urge you to >do so. >I can't count the number of times we've been asked, "Where do we draw the >line?". >Well....if this isn't it, I don't know what is! > >Take yourselves over to http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html > >Select the Militia/Patriot section, and publicly draw the bloody line! > >Our compliance with unConstitutional laws is THE greatest threat to Liberty >. . . > >In Liberty, >Helen Johnson > >=========================================================== >J.J. & Helen Johnson - Fridays - 8:00 pm EST - WWCR 5.070 Mhz >E Pluribus Unum >P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 >Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 >Web Site - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html >"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 > > > "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Joyce Riley Reports & AR 70-25 Date: 17 Jan 1997 05:19:58 -0800 [Anonymous] wrote: >I try to stay positive. But it is so obvious that congress >has all ready sold us out. >See what Joyce Riley has to say on the subject. >I noticed that the date that Riley mentions that this >"title" was approved was January 16, 1996. Sychronous event? >Approved by whom ...that is the question... > > >Did you peruse the entire forty-three page doc? (AR 70-25) >I will read all of it this pm. >> >> John DiNardo wrote: >> > >> > ____ ____ >> > --____ ____---- ----____ ____---- ----____ ____-- >> > ---- ---- ---- >> > T H E P E O P L E'S S P E L L B R E A K E R >> > ____ ____ ____ >> > __---- ----____ ____---- ----____ ____---- ----__ >> > ---- ---- >> > News They Never Told You .... News They'll Never Tell You >> > >> > DATE: _________ __, ____ PRICE: __ CENTS >> > >> > THE NEWSPAPER FOR THE PEOPLE OF >> > UTAH >> > >> > * * * * * MORNING EDITION * * * * * >> > >> > >> > EDITOR: John DiNardo >> > >> > >> > From the free airwaves of the People's radio station in >> > Nashville, Tennessee, WWCR, 5.065 (or 5.070) megahertz >> > Shortwave: >> > PROTECTING YOUR WEALTH, broadcast weekdays from >> > 8:00 to 9:00 P.M., E.S.T. 1(800)451-4452 >> > >> > >> > Part 2, 11/27/96, GOV'T Poisons US Population >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > >> > CAPT. JOYCE RILEY [U.S. Army flight nurse/Gulf War veterans advocate]: >> > I'll get you a copy of this. It was approved on January 16th, 1996. >> > I just got a copy of it. For those of you who want the citations, >> > it is: >> > >> > "TITLE 50, CHAPTER 32:" >> > >> > [It is entitled:] >> > >> > "CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM" >> > >> > What it says, in SECTION 1520, is that: >> > >> > "the use of human subjects will be allowed for the testing of >> > chemical and biological agents by the U.S. Department of >> > Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with respect to >> > the experiments and studies." >> > >> > In other words, the only people they have to account to are the >> > Congress. The ONLY THING they must do, prior to doing biological and >> > chemical experiments on the general population of the United States >> > is that they have to notify >> > >> > "local civilian officials within thirty days in advance of the >> > experiments." >> > >> > MIKE CALLAHAN: >> > But they don't have to notify the actual people [populace] who are >> > being experimented upon! >> > >> > JOYCE RILEY: >> > Exactly! >> > >> > MIKE CALLAHAN: >> > So, in theory, they could, for example, put something in the public >> > water system. As long as they notify the city manager or the mayor >> > or the police officials or FEMA [Federal Emergency Management >> > Agency], then it's okay for them to do this. >> > >> > JOYCE RILEY: >> > That's correct. >> > >> > MIKE CALLAHAN: >> > And if a bunch of people get sick, they can sit back and then watch >> > how the rats [that's us] react to their experiments. >> > >> > JOYCE RILEY: >> > Exactly! It says that, >> > >> > "not later than thirty days from the final approval from the >> > Department of Defense, with plans for any experiment to be >> > conducted by the Department of Defense, either directly or under >> > contract, ..... >> > >> > That's just what we don't need is a bunch of contracting people to >> > be out there investigating the use of human subjects for the testing >> > of chemical or biological agents. >> > >> > MIKE CALLAHAN: >> > Would "under contract" also apply to the CDC? >> > >> > JOYCE RILEY: >> > Certainly. >> > >> > MIKE CALLAHAN: >> > So, if the Center for Disease Control, a private organization, >> > wanted to run an experiment, literally, all they would have to do is >> > contact their lobbyist, who would contact a Congressman and say, >> > >> > "For a couple of bucks, we'd like to run a test on a group of >> > people living in this subdivision or, living in this >> > neighborhood [or in this town, or in this city]." >> > >> > JOYCE RILEY: >> > That's correct. A.T.T.C. Corporation, out of Maryland ... We know >> > that they were involved in chemical and biologicals. The P.I.T. >> > plant, which is, officially, non-functioning right now ... >> > >> > DAVE RIEDEL: >> > Let me remind the listeners that NOWHERE does it say that they have >> > to ask permission. All they have to do is give notice that they're >> > going to do it. They DON'T have to ask permission. They just go >> > ahead, issue themselves a thirty-day period of time in which to >> > conduct their tests, and then they go ahead and conduct their tests. >> > And they don't have to let anybody [any of their victims among the >> > general public] know. >> > >> > I mean, THIS IS INSANE! This is a DIRECT VIOLATION of THE NUREMBURG >> > CODES! >> > >> > MIKE CALLAHAN: >> > What is that code in which these regulations can be found? >> > >> > DAVE RIEDEL: >> > Okay. I've got it in my hands right now. This is: >> > >> > "TITLE 50, CHAPTER 32," >> > >> > It's entitled: >> > >> > "CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM". >> > >> > And it was approved on January 16th of 1996. >> > >> > MIKE CALLAHAN: >> > Approved by whom? >> > >> > DAVE RIEDEL: >> > It just says, >> > >> > "APPROVED 1/16/96." >> > >> > It is in, >> > >> > "Current Bill, PUBLIC LAW 104-98 [P.L. 104-98]. >> > >> > And this [rule] is in SECTION 1520. So, for those of you who want to >> > do some research on this thing, you can get to a law library and you >> > can look this thing up. >> > >> > THIS IS JUST I_N_S_A_N_E_! This goes beyond any realm of >> > sensibility, as far as the United States Government is concerned. >> > And anybody who has half a brain can understand what this means. >> > And people ought to be absolutely incensed! >> > >> > MIKE CALLAHAN: >> > When Hitler did this, they called it "The Holocaust." Is that right? >> > >> > DAVE RIEDEL: >> > I would say so. >> > >> > *----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----* >> > >> > ... "experiments" on you and me, and on our families. Now, I'll >> > present you with just one of many pieces of evidence indicating >> > that these Federal nazis are LYING when they promise to notify >> > local officials before they poison us. >> > They WON'T notify anybody! >> > They will experiment -- or they are now experimenting -- on us >> > SECRETLY! Here is just one piece of evidence supporting my charge. >> > In forthcoming episodes, I'll present more exhibits of evidence >> > delineating and verifying these Government nazis' long history of >> > SECRET poisonings of the American population -- crimes against the >> > People of the United States, "Crimes Against Humanity," as it is >> > termed in the venerable Nuremburg Principles. >> > >> > The following is the second installment of evidence. >> > >> > __ John DiNardo __ >> > >> > *----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----*----* >> > >> > From the Pacifica Radio Network Station >> > WBAI-FM Radio (99.5) >> > 505 Eighth Ave. >> > New York, N.Y. 10018 >> > (212) 279-0707 >> > >> > GARY NULL: >> > There were secrets released under the Freedom of Information Act in >> > which the U.S. Army itself ACKNOWLEDGED, in some closed-door Senate >> > hearings, that during the twenty-year period, it had conducted >> > TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY-NINE SECRET open-air tests, over heavily- >> > populated areas, with genetically-altered microorganisms, two of >> > which were: the sirita marcensus[sp] microbe and another, the >> > bacillus globugilli[sp]. Trillions of these microorganisms were >> > thrown into the environment. The United States Army's own SECRET >> > report said that "EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN IN SAN FRANCISCO HAD BEEN >> > EXPOSED TO AND WAS INHALING ABOUT FIVE THOUSAND PARTICLES >> > PER MINUTE." >> > ~~ TO BE CONTINUED ~~ >> > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> > >> > To receive an episode of these many series in your e-mail box >> > each weekday, just send an e-mail message with the word >> > "SUBSCRIBE" in the "Subject" line, to jad@locust.cic.net . >> > >> > I urge you to post the episodes of this ongoing series to other >> > newsgroups, networks, computer bulletin boards and mailing lists. >> > It is also important to post hardcopies on the bulletin boards >> > in campus halls, churches, supermarkets, laundromats, etc. -- >> > any place where concerned citizens can read this vital information. >> > Our people's need for Paul Reveres and Ben Franklins is as >> > urgent today as it was 220 years ago. >> > >> > John DiNardo jad@locust.cic.net >> > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >> > | If we seriously listen to this God within us [conscience, if you will], | >> > | we usually find ourselves being urged to take the more difficult path, | >> > | the path of more effort rather than less. | >> > | .... Each and every one of us, more or less frequently, will hold | >> > | back from this work .... Like every one of our ancestors before us, | >> > | we are all lazy. So original sin does exist; it is our laziness. | >> > | | >> > | M. Scott Peck | >> > | THE ROAD LESS TRAVELED | >> > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: BLM restricting your gun rights (fwd) Date: 17 Jan 1997 08:04:57 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Posted to texas-gun-owners by Jerry and Nancy Herrington BLM Restricting Your Gun Rights ! ! ! by Gun Owners of America, (703)321-8585, fax: 321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org (Friday, January 17) -- The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) has just proposed a rule governing the use of firearms on federal lands. The rule is dangerously overbroad, and your input to BLM is needed before February 5, 1997. The proposed rule, on page 57615 of the Federal Register for November 7, 1996, would outlaw "[d]ischarging a firearm ... within 150 yards of a residence, building, campsite, recreation site or occupied area..." This ineptly drafted rule could effectively prohibit both hunting and the use of firearms for self-defense on public lands. 1. With respect to hunting, the proposed rule contains the following problems: * It is, practically speaking, impossible for a hunter to determine with certainty that his activities are not within 150 yards of a small abandoned building, another hunter's campsite, or an amorphously defined "recreation area." Any of these are facts which would subject the hunter to criminal liability. * Hunters frequently hunt in groups. Does this make the hunting site an "occupied area"? * The rule seems to suggest that a hunter cannot hunt within 150 yards of his own "blind" or campsite. 2. The second problem with the rule is that there is no exception for self-defense. Thus, gun owners could face arrest, and possibly prosecution, for using firearms to defend themselves from vicious attackers -- whether human or wild beast. Most state laws have an exemption that would allow for self-defense; the proposed rule contains no such exemption. 3. Finally, the proposed rule would allow BLM to "[s]earch without warrant or process any person, place, or vehicle according to any Federal law or rule of law; and ...[s]eize without warrant or process any piece of evidence as provided by Federal law." HERE'S WHAT TO DO: Gun owners must vigorously oppose this effort to tamper with our Second Amendment rights. Write the Bureau of Land Management at: Bureau of Land Management Administrative Record Room 401LS, 1849 C Street, NW Washington, D.C. 20240 Or, e-mail them via the Internet at: WOComment@wo.blm.gov. Please include "Attn: AC30" and your name and address in your message. For further information, contact Dennis McLane at (208)387-5126. Tell them to eliminate the portions of the proposed rule which seek to restrict the discharge or possession of a firearm, and to add to any rule a self-defense exemption. 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Thank you. ----- End Included Message ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Nation's Schools Get 'C' Grade (fwd) Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:06:45 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- [ Reuters New Media] [Burnt Out? Click here] [ Yahoo | Write Us | Search | Info ] [ Index | News | World | Biz | Tech | Politic | Sport | Scoreboard | Entertain | Health ] Previous Story: Explosives Experts Comb Through Bomb Wreckage Next Story: Round-the-World Balloonist Off Iberian Coast Thursday January 16 11:30 PM EST Nation's Schools Get 'C' Grade WASHINGTON (Reuter) - American schools barely earned a C grade for quality in a survey released Thursday by the trade journal Education Week. "Our public school systems are riddled with excellence but rife with mediocrity," concluded the report by the publication for teachers, pricipals and others in education. The detailed statistical analysis of 75 categories on schools in all 50 states found that most states rated at best a C grade. "Their performance was generally mediocre, and many turned in barely passable grades," editor Lynn Olson said in introducing the first annual Education Week/Pew Charitable Trust survey. Student test scores have inched up, with real improvements in mathematics and science, but overall student achievement is about the same as it was in the early 1970s, the survey found. Contrary to popular belief, American students generally outperform students from other large countries on international assessments of basic literacy. Eighth grade students scored above average in science but below average in mathematics when compared to other nations, it noted. Blacks, Hispanics and American Indian students score much lower than white students in every subject in every grade, the survey said. While minorities made dramatic gains in achievement, in the 1970s and early 1980s, their progress has stalled and in some areas the performace gap is widening. While it could not accurately rank the states in every category, the survey found wide differences among the nation's 14,000 school districts and its 80,000 public schools attended by 44 million students. For example, Iowa, North Dakota, Nebraska, New Hampshire ranked at the top in reading and mathematics scores, partly because they are largely rural with homogenous populations and do not have to cope with the problems of large urban areas. But Education Week said that those states did not fare as well in most categories than lower achieving states. Olson said that the question is not whether public schools are better or worse than they used to be, but that "a mediocre education will act as a ball and chain in the high tech, information-oriented society in which we now live." Help Previous Story: Explosives Experts Comb Through Bomb Wreckage Next Story: Round-the-World Balloonist Off Iberian Coast [ Index | News | World | Biz | Tech | Politic | Sport | Scoreboard | Entertain | Health ] Copyright 1997 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon Questions or Comments -- ====================================================================== Lyle Yarnell The 2nd Amendment: Speak now, and forever hold your piece. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Mitchell Subject: Re: (fwd)TREASON!!! Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:21:37 -0800 At 06:18 AM 1/17/97 -0500, Tom Cloyes wrote: While the following proposal is clearly unconstitutional, it is NOT "treason"; treason is carefully defined in the Constitution as: Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. So Jane Fonda is a traitor for going to Hanoi, but Chucky Schumer and Dianne Feinswine are merely oath-breaking unconstitutional politicians. >>X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:23:31 -0500 >>To: eplurib@megalinx.net >>From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >>Subject: TREASON!!! >> >>Handgun Registration Act of 1997 (Introduced in the House) >> >>HR 186 IH >> >> 105th CONGRESS >> >> 1st Session >> >> H. R. 186 >> >>To provide for the mandatory registration of handguns. >> >> IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES >> >> January 7, 1997 >> >>Mr. HASTINGS of Florida introduced the following bill; which was >>referred to the Committee on the Judiciary >> >> A BILL >> >>To provide for the mandatory registration of handguns. >> >> Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the >> United States of America in Congress assembled, >> >>SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. >> >> This Act may be cited as the `Handgun Registration Act of 1997'. >> >>========================================================================== ===== >> >>I omitted the text of this piece of treasonous dreck. Ken Mitchell Citrus Heights, CA kmitchel@gvn.net 916-449-9152 (vm) 916-729-0966 (fax) --------------http://www.gvn.net/~creative/----------------------- "Gun control laws don't work. What is worse, they act perversely. While legitimate users of firearms encounter intense regulation, scrutiny and bureaucratic control, illicit markets easily adapt to whatever difficulties a free society throws in their way. Also, efforts to curtail the supply of firearms inflict collateral damage on freedom and privacy interests that have long been considered central to American public life." Daniel Polsby, "The False Promise of Gun Control" The Atlantic, March 1994 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: (fwd) Virus bulletin (fwd) Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:59:09 -0800 >---------- Forwarded Message ---------- >From: Brian Wilson >Subject: Virus bulletin > >Hey there.... > >There's a particularly nasty version of the Goodtimes virus >going around. Please read the following and take precautions >as necessary. > >BW > >*** The Goodtimes Email Virus *** > >Goodtimes will re-write your hard drive. 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It will pour sugar >in your gas tank and shave off both your eyebrows while >dating your current girlfriend behind your back and billing >the dinner and hotel room to your Visa card. > >It will seduce your grandmother. It does not matter if she is >dead. Such is the power of Goodtimes; it reaches out beyond >the grave to sully those things we hold most dear. > >It moves your car randomly around parking lots so you can't >find it. It will kick your dog. It will leave libidinous >messages on your boss's voice mail in your voice! It is >insidious and subtle. It is dangerous and terrifying to >behold. It is also a rather interesting shade of mauve. > >Goodtimes will give you Dutch Elm disease. It will leave the >toilet seat up. It will make a batch of Methamphetamine in >your bathtub and then leave bacon cooking on the stove while >it goes out to chase gradeschoolers with your new snowblower. > >That is all, you've been warned. > > >Brian Wilson >"Power corrupts; absolute power is kinda neat!" >Talk Show Host/Author >"the little black book on WHITEWATER" > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Unsub info - send e-mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com, with >"unsubscribe liberty-and-justice" in the body (not the subject) >Liberty-and-Justice list-owner is Mike Goldman > - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: TREASON!!! Date: 17 Jan 1997 15:34:45 -0800 Taking your enemy's guns, under color of law, is an act of war, in my opinion. Add this to the amendments made to the Trading with the Enemy Act, and it does not look good for this Congress. What did Mark Twain write about idiots (in Congress)? /s/ Paul Mitchell At 09:21 AM 1/17/97 -0800, you wrote: >At 06:18 AM 1/17/97 -0500, Tom Cloyes wrote: > >While the following proposal is clearly unconstitutional, it is NOT >"treason"; treason is carefully defined in the Constitution as: > >Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying >war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and >comfort. > >So Jane Fonda is a traitor for going to Hanoi, but Chucky Schumer and >Dianne Feinswine are merely oath-breaking unconstitutional politicians. > >>>X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >>>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:23:31 -0500 >>>To: eplurib@megalinx.net >>>From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >>>Subject: TREASON!!! >>> >>>Handgun Registration Act of 1997 (Introduced in the House) >>> >>>HR 186 IH >>> >>> 105th CONGRESS >>> >>> 1st Session >>> >>> H. R. 186 >>> >>>To provide for the mandatory registration of handguns. >>> >>> IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES >>> >>> January 7, 1997 >>> >>>Mr. HASTINGS of Florida introduced the following bill; which was >>>referred to the Committee on the Judiciary >>> >>> A BILL >>> >>>To provide for the mandatory registration of handguns. >>> >>> Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the >>> United States of America in Congress assembled, >>> >>>SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. >>> >>> This Act may be cited as the `Handgun Registration Act of 1997'. >>> >>>========================================================================== >===== >>> >>>I omitted the text of this piece of treasonous dreck. >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ken Mitchell Citrus Heights, CA kmitchel@gvn.net >916-449-9152 (vm) 916-729-0966 (fax) >--------------http://www.gvn.net/~creative/----------------------- >"Gun control laws don't work. What is worse, they act perversely. >While legitimate users of firearms encounter intense regulation, >scrutiny and bureaucratic control, illicit markets easily adapt >to whatever difficulties a free society throws in their way. Also, >efforts to curtail the supply of firearms inflict collateral damage >on freedom and privacy interests that have long been considered >central to American public life." Daniel Polsby, >"The False Promise of Gun Control" The Atlantic, March 1994 >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Re: (fwd)TREASON!!! Date: 17 Jan 1997 11:31:53 -0800 >At 06:18 AM 1/17/97 -0500, Tom Cloyes wrote: > >While the following proposal is clearly unconstitutional, it is NOT >"treason"; treason is carefully defined in the Constitution as: > >Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying >war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and >comfort. > >So Jane Fonda is a traitor for going to Hanoi, but Chucky Schumer and >Dianne Feinswine are merely oath-breaking unconstitutional politicians. I beg to differ; attempting to register handguns is part of the larger scheme to totally disarm Americans. This is arguably "levying war against them," since it's done by "peaceful" means, but it is most assuredly "adhering to their enemies." These enemies intend to disarm America and create a police state that they, solely, control. Anyone who doubts this is gonna be mighty surprised when they're hauled off to the Gulag for participating in "conspiracies," including being on this mailing list. I can hear it now: "You can't do this! I have Constitutional rights!" You better wake up, folks; it's way later than you think. - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Re: TREASON!!! Date: 17 Jan 1997 11:34:14 -0800 >Taking your enemy's guns, >under color of law, is an >act of war, in my opinion. > >Add this to the amendments >made to the Trading with >the Enemy Act, and it does >not look good for this Congress. Absolutely agreed. >What did Mark Twain write about >idiots (in Congress)? "Suppose I was an idiot and suppose I was a member of Congress; but then, I repeat myself." - Mark Twain - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: correction Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:39:39 -0800 In an earlier post, "David Duke" should be "Charles R. Duke". Please excuse this typographical error. /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Superior Judge William Scholl Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:59:32 -0800 [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] MEMO TO: Commission on Judicial Conduct 1501 West Washington, Suite 229 Phoenix, Arizona state FROM: Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Counselor at Law DATE: January 17, 1997 SUBJECT: Superior Court Judge William Scholl I respectfully request that the Commission on Judicial Conduct postpone any final decisions in the matter of William Scholl, until all relevant evidence is placed in your official records and given due consideration by your members. I have access to verifiable information which will prove that William Scholl is innocent of all charges which were recently brought against him in the United States District Court in Phoenix, Arizona. In support of my contention here, this is my formal offer to prove William Scholl's innocence by testifying on his behalf, under oath, at your next scheduled hearing on this matter. In closing, I would also respectfully request that this memo be read aloud at the hearing scheduled for 1:30 p.m. today in Phoenix. Thank you very much for your consideration. Sincerely yours, /s/ Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Counselor at Law and federal witness c/o 2509 N. Campbell Avenue, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85719/tdc email: pmitch@primenet.com (586/Eudora Pro 3.0: preferred to conserve all resources) phone: (520) 320-1514 (private line: please get permission to disclose) fax machine: (520) 320-1256 (dedicated hard copy: available 24-hours per day or night) fax modem: (520) 320-1513 (dedicated email line: please call phone to switch software) hard copy: transmitted via first class U.S. Mail today U.S. District Roslyn O. Silver # # # ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wbg@hevanet.com (wbg) Subject: Mark Twain & Congress Date: 17 Jan 1997 18:37:07 -0800 (PST) Paul Mitchell wrote: > What did Mark Twain write about > idiots (in Congress)? Actually, he said a couple of pretty trenchant things, and I quote: "It could probably be proven by facts and figures that the only distinctly native American criminal class is Congress." . . and in a speech, "Now, suppose I were a Congressman . . . and suppose I were an idiot - but, I repeat myself." Brewster -- *********************************************************************** W. Brewster Gillett wbg@hevanet.com Portland, Oregon USA *********************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Federal Jury Acquits a Colorado Freeman (fwd) Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:20:15 PST Found on another list..... On Jan 17, Paul Nanson wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] The arrogance of the judge and prosecutors may have provoked the jury. Paul Nanson mailto:think@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~think/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Conservative Consensus Events * Analysis * Commentary * Forecasts * Readers' Opinions http://www.eskimo.com/~ccnrs/news.html NEWS FLASH * V3X02 * 01.17.1997 * ISSN 1074-245X (c)1997 by Conservative Consensus. Copying information below. FEDERAL JURY ACQUITS COLORADO FREEMAN by Pat Shannan A jury found that a Freeman, acting in good faith, was not guilty of fraud. The judge was not happy with their decision. In early December a jury in a Wichita, Kansas federal court ruled that a man facing 10 years in jail was not guilty of committing fraud after using a "lien draft" to purchase goods. The Jury found nothing "bogus" about the much-celebrated Comptroller Warrants issued by Montana Freeman LeRoy Schweitzer, as charged by the federal judiciary and parroted for months by the mass media. The case involved an alleged fraud in the Freeman's purchase of a new Ford truck from a Wichita automobile dealership. Defense attorney Kurt Kerns, of Wichita, said he is not aware of any story regarding the verdict appearing in either the local newspaper or on the television news. This despite the fact two of the infamous Montana Freemen, LeRoy Schweitzer and Dan Petersen, were in court. According to Kerns, the sheriff had issued a gag order on all the guards at the jail and "nobody got wind that the Freemen were even in town until after they had left, and by that time it was old news." In July of 1996, LeRoy Greathouse, 54, of Walsh, Colorado tendered a draft in the amount of $33,800 in exchange for a new Ford pickup truck. He received $2,700 extra, cashed the check at Bank IV in Hutchinson, and returned to his farm home in Walsh. Four days later Greathouse was visited by FBI agents who confiscated the truck and cash, then arrested him. He was charged with "fraud" and "Interstate Transportation with Property Obtained by Fraud." Greathouse could have been sentenced to 10 years in federal prison, had he been found guilty. The trial commenced in federal court in Wichita on December 3. One of the highlights which seemed to sway the jury in favor of Greathouse was the testimony of FBI Special Agent Thomas Brown, who played a recording of three telephone conversations between Greathouse and Schweitzer. During cross-examination, Kerns called attention to blatant deletions and gaps in the audio tape which were also obvious in the typewritten transcript. Greathouse said Brown admitted on the witness stand that it is not at all unusual for the bureau to keep only what is pertinent to the prosecution's case and hold out what may be beneficial to the defense. This appeared to anger many of the jurors. Later in the week, during the second day of deliberation, the jury returned and requested to hear the tape again. Judge Wesley Brown (no known relation to the agent) appeared perturbed and yelled at the jury for wanting to hear it, saying "...the transcript says the same thing the tape does..." but then reluctantly relented and allowed the tape to be played a second time. Again, in the opinions of both Greathouse and Kerns, this arrogant attitude seemed to further persuade the jurors that there may have been some duplicity occurring between the judge and the prosecution. The jury returned only 30 minutes later and announced that they had found Greathouse "not guilty." Schweitzer and Petersen were subpoenaed as witnesses for the defense. Schweitzer's signature was on the lien draft in question. Petersen had notarized it. Kerns, a court-appointed attorney, had previously flown to Billings, Montana, where the pair is being held on fraud charges related to other liens, and interviewed the two men in jail. Kerns said he was convinced that they could present key evidence as to the legalities behind the lien drafts. But neither man was called to testify. The defense feared that cross examination by the prosecution might bias the jury against their client should the questioning drift to the religious beliefs of some of the Freemen. Standard rules of procedure provide that no areas of cross examination may be entered into which have not been previously opened on direct examination. However, during sidebar conversation, Federal District Judge Wesley Brown indicated that should Schweitzer and Petersen take the stand, he still would allow the prosecution to delve into the other areas of alleged beliefs of the Freemen. Kerns said he felt that this would undoubtedly be prejudicial in the minds of the jury toward his client. "Judge Brown did everything he possibly could to insure a conviction, in my opinion," Kerns said. "He kept out exculpatory evidence and barred my expert testimony as to the legalities of the comptroller warrants, calling this testimony `irrelevant.' He was also unduly burdensome with regard to my character witnesses by continually sustaining totally idiotic objections by the prosecution." In spite of all these hurdles, the defense was able to prevail. Kerns had known for some time that there is nothing illegal about the documents submitted by the Freemen, and he was able to convey that truth to the jurors. "My defense was simply to prove that there was no fraud." Judge Brown was visibly upset when the verdict was returned and immediately admonished the jury by saying: Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is a very interesting verdict, and I hope it does not send a message that you can send off for a fake $33,000 check for a hundred bucks, go buy a pickup with it, and then get away with it. ### [This article is Copyright 1997 by The Spotlight. 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Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Mark Twain & Congress Date: 18 Jan 1997 05:04:44 -0800 That's it! THAT'S IT!! I still laugh out loud at the second one. Do you think he was also referring to the Senate, e.g. Senator Kyl from the arid zone? /s/ Paul Mitchell p.s. Did he say arid, extra dry? At 06:37 PM 1/17/97 -0800, you wrote: >Paul Mitchell wrote: > >> What did Mark Twain write about >> idiots (in Congress)? > >Actually, he said a couple of pretty trenchant things, and I quote: > >"It could probably be proven by facts and figures that the only >distinctly native American criminal class is Congress." > > . . and in a speech, > >"Now, suppose I were a Congressman . . . and suppose I were an idiot - > but, I repeat myself." > >Brewster > >-- >*********************************************************************** >W. Brewster Gillett wbg@hevanet.com Portland, Oregon USA >*********************************************************************** > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Mark Twain & Congress Date: 18 Jan 1997 05:05:39 -0800 >Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 05:04:44 -0800 >To: roc@xmission.com >From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >Subject: Mark Twain & Congress > >That's it! THAT'S IT!! > >I still laugh out loud >at the second one. > >Do you think he was also >referring to the Senate, >e.g. Senator Kyl from >the arid zone? > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > >p.s. Did he say arid, extra dry? > > > >At 06:37 PM 1/17/97 -0800, you wrote: >>Paul Mitchell wrote: >> >>> What did Mark Twain write about >>> idiots (in Congress)? >> >>Actually, he said a couple of pretty trenchant things, and I quote: >> >>"It could probably be proven by facts and figures that the only >>distinctly native American criminal class is Congress." >> >> . . and in a speech, >> >>"Now, suppose I were a Congressman . . . and suppose I were an idiot - >> but, I repeat myself." >> >>Brewster >> >>-- >>*********************************************************************** >>W. 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Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Federal Jury Acquits a Colorado Freeman Date: 18 Jan 1997 05:02:02 -0800 >From: JAdam2594@aol.com >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:12:33 -0500 (EST) >To: hwysong@mindspring.com >Subject: Fwd: Federal Jury Acquits a Colorado Freeman > > >--------------------- >Forwarded message: >From: jinks@u.washington.edu (Virginia McMillan) >Resent-from: consensus-l@eskimo.com >To: consensus-l@eskimo.com >Date: 97-01-17 20:14:49 EST > >Conservative Consensus >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Events * Analysis * Commentary * Forecasts * Readers' Opinions >-------------------------------------------------------------- >http://www.eskimo.com/~ccnrs/news.html > >NEWS FLASH * V3X02 * 01.17.1997 * ISSN 1074-245X > >(c)1997 by Conservative Consensus. Copying information below. > >FEDERAL JURY ACQUITS COLORADO FREEMAN >by Pat Shannan > >A jury found that a Freeman, acting in good faith, was not guilty >of fraud. The judge was not happy with their decision. > >In early December a jury in a Wichita, Kansas federal court ruled >that a man facing 10 years in jail was not guilty of committing >fraud after using a "lien draft" to purchase goods. > >The Jury found nothing "bogus" about the much-celebrated >Comptroller Warrants issued by Montana Freeman LeRoy Schweitzer, >as charged by the federal judiciary and parroted for months by the >mass media. > >The case involved an alleged fraud in the Freeman's purchase of a >new Ford truck from a Wichita automobile dealership. > >Defense attorney Kurt Kerns, of Wichita, said he is not aware of >any story regarding the verdict appearing in either the local >newspaper or on the television news. This despite the fact two >of the infamous Montana Freemen, LeRoy Schweitzer and Dan >Petersen, were in court. > >According to Kerns, the sheriff had issued a gag order on all the >guards at the jail and "nobody got wind that the Freemen were even >in town until after they had left, and by that time it was old >news." > >In July of 1996, LeRoy Greathouse, 54, of Walsh, Colorado tendered >a draft in the amount of $33,800 in exchange for a new Ford pickup >truck. He received $2,700 extra, cashed the check at Bank IV in >Hutchinson, and returned to his farm home in Walsh. > >Four days later Greathouse was visited by FBI agents who >confiscated the truck and cash, then arrested him. He was charged >with "fraud" and "Interstate Transportation with Property Obtained >by Fraud." Greathouse could have been sentenced to 10 years in >federal prison, had he been found guilty. > >The trial commenced in federal court in Wichita on December 3. >One of the highlights which seemed to sway the jury in favor of >Greathouse was the testimony of FBI Special Agent Thomas Brown, >who played a recording of three telephone conversations between >Greathouse and Schweitzer. > >During cross-examination, Kerns called attention to blatant >deletions and gaps in the audio tape which were also obvious in >the typewritten transcript. > >Greathouse said Brown admitted on the witness stand that it is not >at all unusual for the bureau to keep only what is pertinent to the >prosecution's case and hold out what may be beneficial to the >defense. This appeared to anger many of the jurors. > >Later in the week, during the second day of deliberation, the jury >returned and requested to hear the tape again. Judge Wesley Brown >(no known relation to the agent) appeared perturbed and yelled at >the jury for wanting to hear it, saying "...the transcript says >the same thing the tape does..." but then reluctantly relented and >allowed the tape to be played a second time. > >Again, in the opinions of both Greathouse and Kerns, this arrogant >attitude seemed to further persuade the jurors that there may have >been some duplicity occurring between the judge and the >prosecution. The jury returned only 30 minutes later and >announced that they had found Greathouse "not guilty." > >Schweitzer and Petersen were subpoenaed as witnesses for the >defense. Schweitzer's signature was on the lien draft in >question. Petersen had notarized it. Kerns, a court-appointed >attorney, had previously flown to Billings, Montana, where the >pair is being held on fraud charges related to other liens, and >interviewed the two men in jail. > >Kerns said he was convinced that they could present key evidence >as to the legalities behind the lien drafts. But neither man was >called to testify. The defense feared that cross examination by >the prosecution might bias the jury against their client should >the questioning drift to the religious beliefs of some of the >Freemen. > >Standard rules of procedure provide that no areas of cross >examination may be entered into which have not been previously >opened on direct examination. However, during sidebar >conversation, Federal District Judge Wesley Brown indicated that >should Schweitzer and Petersen take the stand, he still would >allow the prosecution to delve into the other areas of alleged >beliefs of the Freemen. > >Kerns said he felt that this would undoubtedly be prejudicial in >the minds of the jury toward his client. > >"Judge Brown did everything he possibly could to insure a >conviction, in my opinion," Kerns said. "He kept out exculpatory >evidence and barred my expert testimony as to the legalities of >the comptroller warrants, calling this testimony `irrelevant.' He >was also unduly burdensome with regard to my character witnesses >by continually sustaining totally idiotic objections by the >prosecution." > >In spite of all these hurdles, the defense was able to prevail. >Kerns had known for some time that there is nothing illegal about >the documents submitted by the Freemen, and he was able to convey >that truth to the jurors. "My defense was simply to prove that >there was no fraud." > >Judge Brown was visibly upset when the verdict was returned and >immediately admonished the jury by saying: > > Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is a very interesting > verdict, and I hope it does not send a message that you can > send off for a fake $33,000 check for a hundred bucks, go buy > a pickup with it, and then get away with it. > ### >[This article is Copyright 1997 by The Spotlight. Used with >permission. 300 Independence Ave. SE, Washington DC 20003] >_________________________ >ANALYSIS & COMMENTARY: A check of the National Newspaper Index >(covering major newspapers) revealed 119 articles covering the >Freemen. 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Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: "Warrants" Date: 18 Jan 1997 05:27:08 -0800 Paul Mitchell rebuts infra: At 10:53 PM 1/17/97 EST, you wrote: >No one is speaking for anyone else in this forum, Mr. Gray. When I refer >to "we Americans", I'm referring to the majority of American citizens. If >the majority of American citizens woke up tomorrow and decided that bird >crap had exchange value, bird crap could eventually become legal tender. >For example, our country and most if not all countries throughout the >world, agree that a red, octagonal sign with the letters S-T-O-P have a >universal meaning. > >Mr. Mitchell and Mr. Gray engage in language redefinition and circular >arguments peppered with faulty premises to confuse (like S-T-O-P really >means G-O) the central issue which is whether these "warrants" have any >universally accepted exchange value. One doesn't, after all, have to be >government sympathizer to understand that these "warrants" are as bogus >as counterfeit money - i.e., money not issued by the U.S. Treasury >because they can NOT be exchanged by the recipient for anything of value. >No business man would be in business very long if he accepted "warrants", >bad checks, and counterfeit T-bills. Your checking account is simply a credit transfer system, and your check book is simply a stack of commercial papers authorizing credit assignment. There are some excellent books available on banking law, if you are interested. The Federal Reserve System invented this stuff, so you are shooting the messenger. The Federal Reserve does not perfect their liens under penalty per perjury; that is an obvious fact. Nor are its "liens" signed by the debtors, consensually or otherwise. A proper commercial lien is a consensual contract, enforceable in equity. This is basic banking law. > >Carrying this argument a bit farther, what if your employer compensated >you in "warrants"? Your landlord won't accept them, the electric company >won't accept them, the surplus store won't accept them and the grocery >store won't accept them. What you wind up with is a worthless piece of >paper because there is no universal acceptance that "warrants" have any >intrinsic exchange value so they don't have any value. None. Zip. Nada. >You've been had. Then, to push this straw man over completely, your employer did not "compensate" you in "warrants" if you never agreed to be paid in that currency, or if you would not accept one when it was tendered. It is the act of acceptance which renders it valid. Banks have a very short window of time to reject, of "protest," such tender. Otherwise, by bank law, they must eat it. That's the law. /s/ Paul Mitchell > >Regardless of how many references to esoteric documents & the singularly >unusual interpretations of them grace these pages, the reality remains >that "warrants" have no worth or exchange value and to insist that they >do reminds me of "The Emperor's New Clothes". On the contrary, the ones based on proper and perfected commercial liens are valid. The "esoteric documents" and "singularly unusual interpretations" to which you refer are basic banking law. Edwin Vieira was appointed to the President's Gold Commission. In his essay, he stresses that the single most important problem in this country is ignorance. I tend to agree with him. Moreover, some of us - such >as Mr. Borkum - appear to support stealing from businesses through >deception. This is EXACTLY what the Federal Reserve System is doing, every minute of the hour, every hour of the day. They buy U.S. bonds with money they create out of thin air, and then they want to cash in the bonds, PLUS INTEREST, at maturity. What leverage!! /s/ Paul Mitchell If you obtain a product or service from a business that >carries a price tag, then you have a moral obligation to pay that >business with a medium of exchange that has universally accepted worth >that the business can exchange for more goods and services and derive >profit from. And the Constitution established that medium of exchange -- gold and silver. The Constitution is our universally accepted standard, because it is the supreme Law of the Land. /s/ Paul Mitchell To knowingly present that business with a worthless medium >of exchange is fraud. More straw men here. Those warrants were presented by people who believed that they were a valid method of assigning credit, as evidenced by a valid commercial lien. If they did not believe this, then I would agree with you. It is their "intent" that matters here. /s/ Paul Mitchell It's no different than shoplifting - in both >instances, the business (or the employee paid by "warrants") has lost a >product or service and received nothing of value in return. It is very different from shoplifting, because the intent is different. "Intent" is everything in a criminal case. /s/ Paul Mitchell > >If the federales have you for writing these "warrants", how are you going >to protect your family when they come for them? You subpoena Schweitzer and have him testify concerning his knowledge of banking law. You get into the issues of the original damage(s) which created the basis for the original commercial lien; then you find out what role the Post Office is supposed to play in opening an account, and clearing proper credit assignment orders. This just happened in Colorado, and the defendant was acquitted. What do you know? /s/ Paul Mitchell > >Sarcasm, put-downs and scatology are inadequate substitutes for >scholarship and logic. Maybe that's why we're so fragmented. You have referred to Vieira's brilliant essay as "esoteric," and now you are criticizing inadequate substitutes for scholarship and logic. You seem to be going around in circles. Allow me to recommend that you take a basic course in banking and commercial law. It may change your life. If that is too much to ask, please visit URL: http://www.supremelaw.com and check out the Supreme Law Library, which contains plenty of scholarship and logic, particularly "Return to Constitutional Money" by Edwin Vieira, Jr. He starts off slow, but then finds his stride when he launches into the most incisive analysis of the FRB I have ever witnessed (and I did witness the lecture on which that transcript was based). /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Warrants and Intervention of Right Date: 18 Jan 1997 06:29:57 -0800 Paul Mitchell comments infra: At 10:12 PM 1/17/97 -0600, you wrote: >If the "warrants" to which you refer are the comptroller warrants issued >with the backing of perfected commercial liens, it might be disingenuous >to completely disregard that approach without first looking into how that >entire process came about. > >Sen. Alfonse D'Amato (R-N.Y.) himself made the observation during a Senate >committee hearing on July 17 that certain "criminals" were taking >advantage of a "loophole in the law" to create these "negotiable >instruments." He also admitted that existing laws do not cover this >process >and that groups like the Montana Justus Freemen had been executing these >"warrants" for years before being taken to task legally. > >So up until the Freeman standoff in the spring of 1996, comptroller >warrants in the form of certified cashier's checks, backed by legally >obtained perfected commercial liens, made perfect sense to most of the >banks and other financial organizations, such as Merrill Lynch, who were >routinely cashing them. When domestic banks caught on to this process, >they immediately started suppressing the process, but that was not the >case with offshore banks which steadfastly lay claim to the resources >named on the warrants. That is the big problem with the Freemen's >situation now, and the remarkable twist -- the government needs LeRoy >Schweitzer to voluntarily lift those liens and free up the frozen assets >tied up by the ensuing warrants. > >You are correct in that many so-called "warrants" used without any backing >(such as a perfected commercial lien) are fraudulent. But it will remain >with a court of law to decide if what the Freemen were doing up until the >spring of 1996 was, in fact, illegal. Yes, it is called "due process of law," THE most important phrase in the Fifth Amendment. The American judicial traditions which have built up around this phrase are magnificent, in my opinion. Moreover, being in the Fifth Amendment renders this phrase the fundamental Law in America, meaning that it's unalienable. And that is one of the main reasons for the case of People v. United States et al. We want to subpoena the Secretaries of the Treasury, and obtain their testimony concerning the methods that were used to "perfect" (or not perfect) the $5 trillion federal debt. If foreign banks cannot prove their claim (as in "Proof of Claim Form 10"), then a 3-judge District Court of the United States has authority to liquidate all, or part, of that $5 trillion. 1997 may America's Jubilee Year. It certainly will be, if I have anything to say about it. Don't forget, Senator Lloyd Bentsen violated the Constitution when he vacated his Senate seat to become Secretary of the Treasury. The only hitch was that he had just voted to increase the pay for that office, and the Constitution is very clear about this kind of conduct: it is prohibited. He was not eligible for that office until the end of his senate term. So, he attempted to occupy the office of Treasury Secretary without any authority from the People; that move rendered each and every one of his acts ultra vires, including of course each and every civil and criminal action which must be authorized by the Secretary of the Treasury before it can proceed (read "due process of law"). The People have submitted to DOJ a FOIA for a list of all civil and criminal actions which were initiated under Bentsen's signature. All fines, penalties, and forfeitures which he "authorized" will need to be re-examined, by the 3-judge panel in People v. United States et al. I can help anyone intervene in this case, pursuant to Rule 24(a) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, if you would like to do so. Contact me here for more information. /s/ Paul Mitchell > > >On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Billy R Yocum wrote: > >> Isn't it more than just a little disingenuous for we patriots to support >> such ludicrous and fradulent instruments as "warrants" (Dallas Morning >> News 1-11-97) in lieu of valid payments that represent actual monetary >> value for goods or services rendered? Presenting "warrant" documents to a >> business owner or merchant who, in good faith, has provided goods or >> services is tantamount to intentionally writing a bad check or using a >> stolen credit card to defraud that merchant. It's a crime and those who >> create and sign such documents are criminals. >> >> Committing crimes that are rationalized into the lame 'higher purpose' >> argument is legally and ethically unsupportable and calls into serious >> question our ability to gain mainstream legitimacy and support which we >> must have to achieve our goals. >> >> The federales already victimize enough people; will the patriots and >> freemen do the same? >> > > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Re: NIMFACTS / Danny Casolaro = Tip of the Octopus, Part 1 Date: 18 Jan 1997 15:09:41 -0700 (MST) An octopus has tentacles, yes? /s/ Paul Mitchell At 04:06 PM 1/18/97 -0500, you wrote: > >---------- >From: John DiNardo >To: nextwave@one.net >Subject: Part 1, THE CASOLARO MURDER: Tip of the Octopus >Date: Saturday, January 18, 1997 8:24 AM > > > EDITOR: John DiNardo > > From the Pacifica Radio Network station, > WBAI-FM (99.5) > 505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl. > New York, NY 10018 > (212)279-0707 > >Part 1, THE CASOLARO MURDER: Tip of the Octopus > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >BILL HAMILTON [chief executive officer of the Inslaw Corporation]: >Danny Casolaro was found dead in West Virginia. He had conversations >with three confidants -- three separate conversations which I found >out about later. And he told each of these three confidants the >same thing: that he had just then returned from West Virginia where >he had met with a source and that he now knew everything that had >happened to the PROMIS software and to Inslaw, but that he had to >go back for one final meeting to pick up the last piece of evidence. >And he was quite euphoric about his breakthrough. And he said to >each of these people that Bill and Nancy Hamilton (My wife is named >Nancy; works here with me.) were going to be quite excited. > >One of the confidants said: "I've had fifty telephone hours >talking to Danny." (This is someone who lives on the West Coast.) >"During the past year I've spent about fifty hours speaking to him >on the phone. Normally, he plays chess with me. Monday night, he >was like the cat who had swallowed the canary. He knew he had >broken this thing!" > >So, if he was murdered -- and I believe he clearly was -- he was >murdered because he had found out too much. The other thing I >should mention to you is that, in the final three or four weeks >of his life, several different people with backgrounds in U.S. >covert intelligence operations -- who I talk to on a regular basis >and who Danny also talked to on a regular basis -- directly told me >that they had told Danny that his life was in jeopardy because he >was having such success in breaking this corruption open. And they >told me that some specific inquiries that Danny was making could >get him killed. And the West Virginia authorities have never shown >any interest in finding that kind of thing out from people like me >and others who knew professionally what Danny was doing. > >So, to rule a suicide, without examining this kind of information, >is a ruling which does not deserve to be taken seriously. > >PAUL DeRIENZO: >Can you give me some idea of those very specific things that >Danny Casolaro was inquiring about? > >BILL HAMILTON: >Danny was planning to go to a particular facility in the Washington, >D.C. area, owned by the United States Government; a facility with >connections to one or more of the people who run "the Octopus". >I think you can assume it's a covert intelligence facility, from >the way that it's presented. And just going to this facility, I >was warned, could get him killed. The other thing that he was doing >was making inquiries, over the telephone, to the Syndicate in >Los Angeles. And those inquiries had rattled the cages of some >people out there. And there was some concern that they might >respond to the rattling by killing Danny. The claim that I have >heard from some sources is that someone with mob responsibilities >(I guess you'd call it) -- some person in the mob -- is a member >of the leadership of "the Octopus." And it's someone from the >Los Angeles mob. And Danny was onto it. > >PAUL DeRIENZO: >Are you familiar with any of the research that was done by the >Christic Institute in Washington, D.C. concerning the Iran-Contra >scandal? > >BILL HAMILTON: >Yes. I have read it. > >PAUL DeRIENZO: >To your knowledge, are there any parallels there? Are some of >those same people involved, to your knowledge? > >BILL HAMILTON: >Yes. Danny's belief about who was running "the Octopus" -- about >seven or eight people -- some of them are people whom the Christic >Institute identified: [high CIA officials] Theodore Shackley and Thomas >Clines; Danny also had people like [CIA officials] George Pender >and John P Nichols, E. Howard Hunt [one of the CIA officers involved >in President Nixon's infamous Watergate burglary, and allegedly a >a conspirator in the assassination of President Kennedy], the former >Director of the CIA Richard Helms, [CIA officer] Ray Cline .... >Those are the people that Danny had identified as the people >running "the Octopus". > >PAUL DeRIENZO: >Anything you'd like to add to this? > >BILL HAMILTON: >I think it's important that reporters try to get to the bottom >of this because Danny was investigating corruption in the U.S. >Department of Justice itself. It makes problematical any >possibility that there could be a Federal investigation, unless >there's an independent counsel appointed. So, the press and the >Congress are really the only hopes that we have to try to prove >whether Danny was murdered or not. > >PAUL DeRIENZO: >I know that you won your suit and that there were some appeals by >the government. Has that been completed yet -- the legal proceedings? > >BILL HAMILTON: >No. The government appealed from the bankruptcy court to the U.S. >District Court. The U.S. District Court, in November, 1989, >affirmed the bankruptcy court saying that the evidence was >sufficient to support the findings (quote) "under any standard of >review." (closed quotes). Then the Justice Department appealed >again to the United States Court of Appeals this time. And a three- >judge panel in May said, on a narrow jurisdictional ruling, that >we won the case in the wrong federal court. We should have tried >it in a different federal court. We are currently seeking >certiorari from the U.S. Supreme Court because we think that the >U.S. Court of Apppeals jurisdictional ruling was in error. But >when the U.S. Court of Appeals made its jurisdictional ruling, >it left undisturbed the findings of the bankruptcy court that >had already been upheld by the district court: that the Justice >Department stole six million dollars worth of our software through >"trickery, fraud and deceit", and then tried covertly to drive >Inslaw out of business. > >PAUL DeRIENZO: >Have you received any settlement on that? > >BILL HAMILTON: >I've never received a penny! And the forty-two largest United >States Attorneys' offices are still running their caseloads with >software that two federal courts said was deliberately stolen >by the U.S. Department of Justice headquarters in Washington. > ~~ TO BE CONTINUED ~~ >* * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > If you would like to receive all thirty-three episodes of this > 2nd volume of THE SPELLBREAKER, comprising numerous series, > I humbly request 10 cents for each episode, so that I can subsist > while dedicating the many hours of work necessary to produce > THE SPELLBREAKER on a daily basis. The cost of this 2nd volume > is only $3. If you wish, you may mail three one-dollar bills, > along with your e-mail address, to: > > John DiNardo > P.O. 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Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: (fwd) Bill of rights: fwd Date: 18 Jan 1997 18:00:58 -0800 Forwarded from Chad... >>Envelope-to: chad-pc@shire.net >>Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:09:34 -0700 >>From: Dave Duncan >>To: chad@xmission.com >>Subject: Bill of rights: fwd >>Encoding: 6 Text, >> 83 Text >> >>I thought this was good. Especially thought a good >>libertarian like you could appreciate it. Maybe >>you've already seen it. >> >>See ya soon, >>Dave >> >>Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:04:52 -0700 >>From: Heather Boyer >>To: BAmiotMS@aol.com,heddrush@aol.com, glen_boyer@byu.edu, >> BTPERKINS@corel.com, CindyH@corel.com, CraigM@corel.com, >> DANAR@corel.com, DAVED@corel.com, DAVIDSE@corel.com, >> DONF@corel.com, EStevens@corel.com, HANKD@corel.com, >> JAREDC@corel.com, JOHNFRED@corel.com, KFREEMAN@corel.com, >> LKIRBY@corel.com, MMUNZ@corel.com, MSCALORA@corel.com, >> MTERRY@corel.com, PAULSK@corel.com, RASMEN@corel.com, >> RDPOOLE@corel.com, RLOWE@corel.com, TRENTH@corel.com, >> TYLERT@corel.com, WALTERH@corel.com, shaili@cs.utah.edu, >> JELQUIST@novell.com, WBRUNSON@novell.com, cmabey@sahara1.com, >> mwimmer@u.washington.edu, BOYERRO@UVSC.EDU >>Subject: Humor - Bill of No Rights... >> >>Bill of No Rights >> >>We, the sensible of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get >>along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid any more riots, keep our >>nation safe, promote positive behavior and secure the blessings of >>debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great grandchildren, >>hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense >>guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt-ridden delusional, and other >>liberal, commie, pinko bedwetters. >> >>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that a whole lot of people were >>confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim that they require a Bill of No >>Rights. >> >>You do not have the right to a new car, big-screen color TV or any other >>form of wealth. >> >>More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is >>guaranteeing anything. >> >>You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on >>freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may >>leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc., but >>the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be. >> >>You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a >>screwdriverin your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool >>manufacturer to make you and all of your relatives independently >>wealthy. You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans >>are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in >>need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after >>generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more >>than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes. >> >>You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but >>from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public >>health care. >> >>You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, >>rape, intentionally maim or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest >>of us get together and kill you. >> >>You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat, >>or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be >>surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place >>where you still won't have the right to a big-screen color TV or a life of >>leisure. >> >>You do not have the right to demand that our children risk their lives in >>foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience. We hate oppressive >>governments and won't lift a finger to stop you from going to fight if >>you'd like. However, we do not enjoy parenting the entire world and do >>not want to spend so much of our time battling each and every little >>tyrant with a military uniform and a funny hat. >> >>You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have one, >>and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take >>advantage of the opportunities in education and vocational training laid >>before you to make yourself useful. >> >>You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that >>you have the right to pursue happiness -- which, by the way, is a lot >>easier if you are unencumbered by an overabundance of idiotic laws >>created by those around you who were confused by the Bill of Rights. >> >>************************************************************ >>And through the wire I hear your voice. --Peter Gabriel >>************************************************************ >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Chad Leigh Pengar Enterprises, Inc and Shire.Net >chad@pengar.com info@pengar.com info@shire.net >Full service WWW services from just space to complete sites. >Low cost virtual servers. Web Design. DB integration. Tango. >Email forwarding -- Permanent Email Addresses. POP3 and IMAP >Email Accounts. mailto:info@shire.net for any of these. >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: Y'all see this one? Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:26:56 -0500 (EST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- A 4th Amendment Lesson -- the Teacher Gets Fired By Nat Hentoff Saturday, January 18 1997; Page A23 The Washington Post It was a SWAT team moving in on students in Windsor Forest High School in Savannah, Ga. As described by Bill Osinski last year in the Atlanta Constitution, "Without warning, teams of armed county and school system officers would periodically come into the schools, order everyone into the hallways, use dogs to sniff the students' book bags and purses, and scan the students' bodies with metal detectors." The students are detained in their classrooms for two to three hours. There is no reasonable suspicion or probable cause to target any particular student. All of them are presumed guilty of possessing drugs or weapons unless exonerated by a drug dog. Sherry Hearn, a teacher at Windsor Forest High School, had complained about these random raids to the principal, to the school board and to cops she felt were unduly rough with students during the searches. At a November 1995 lockdown, as it's called, one of her students asked Hearn why she was so upset. "Because I teach the Constitution," she said. She had been doing that for 27 years, had been named Teacher of the Year in Chatham County in April 1994, and has many admirers among her students, past and present -- some of whom she has turned away from drugs. When she spoke caustically about the lockdown, she was overheard by a police officer, who reported her to the principal, adding that because of her "attitude" problem, she might have to be detained or restrained during future surprise raids. During a subsequent random raid, Hearn's son was the only student out of 1,500 to be individually searched. There was another lockdown in April 1996, and the industrious police also searched the cars in the parking lot. One of them was Sherry Hearn's venerable Oldsmobile. She had left the doors unlocked and the windows open. A drug dog found a partial hand-rolled marijuana cigarette in the car. Hearn had absolutely no record of drug use and had no idea how that incriminating controlled substance had come into her car. The search, conducted without a warrant, was also in direct violation of the board's policy, which requires that faculty members give consent before their cars are searched. Her car had a large white faculty identification card on the dashboard. The Board of Education suspended Hearn and ordered her to take a "supervised" drug test -- or lose her job. Although three years short of retirement, she refused. "How could I face my students? To do what I genuinely believe to be an unconstitutional act out of fear was a kind of public shaming I could not face." Furthermore, the original command to be drug tested turned out to be unconstitutional because after she had been read her Miranda rights, including the right to consult a law yer and the right not to incriminate herself without getting a lawyer's advice, she was told that the test -- which might incriminate her -- had to be taken within two hours. She wasn't able to reach her lawyer within that period to get his advice, so her Miranda rights, she felt, had been violated. The day after the raid, at the strong advice of her attorney, Hearn reluctantly agreed to take a drug test because he said it would provide medical evidence. Hearn's test showed no drug use. The school's superintendent, Patrick Russo, did not even ask to see the results because she hadn't taken the first test. Hearn was fired for insubordination by Superintendent Russo, although he had the options of reprimanding or suspending her. She was removed from her students, Russo told me, because she failed to "uphold the integrity of the drug testing policy." He added graciously that she was "a wonderful teacher." No action was taken against the officers who searched her car in violation of the school district's drug testing policy. Sherry Hearn's appeal to her local school board has been denied on the grounds of insubordination. And the Atlanta Constitution states: "This is not about drugs. This is about the trampling of fundamental freedoms guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution." (She also has the support of National Teacher Magazine.) The Georgia State Board of Education has rejected Hearn's appeal, also on the grounds of insubordination. Her case now moves into U.S. District Court, where she will argue that her Fourth Amendment rights, among others, have been violated -- along with her due process rights. She has not been able to find a full-time teaching job because, she tells me, "most public systems are fearful of anyone involved in a lawsuit." Sherry Hearn was recently honored by the Georgia Civil Liberties Union. She was very pleased, but would be more pleased to go back to everyday teaching and be able to get kids to discover their rights and liberties under the Constitution. ============= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: bond math Date: 18 Jan 1997 20:37:16 -0700 (MST) If you print a FRN into circulation, and then you draw it out of circulation, you have a wash, one-for-one. If you print a FRN into circulation, and then you draw it out of circulation, with another 5 cents of interest tacked on top, you no longer have a wash, but a drain. The extra 5 cents must be taken from somewhere OTHER THAN the FRN's which were printed into circulation. That somewhere else is the substance of the American People -- their jobs, their bank accounts, their land, and all their other assets, with no exceptions. This is the fraud of the FRN -- paper money with a property conversion racket attached. /s/ Paul Mitchell =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Re: Federal Jury Acquits a Colorado Freeman (fwd) Date: 19 Jan 1997 11:00:32 -0800 Bill Vance wrote: > > Found on another list..... > > On Jan 17, Paul Nanson wrote: > > [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > > The arrogance of the judge and prosecutors may have provoked > the jury. It's nice to see a judge get a lesson in humility. There will be more of these delightful occurrences in our area. My current top priority political project is to help form a new county here in southwest WA. We have been driven to this decision by 20+ years of neglect and abuse of rural-suburban voters by our current county government, which knows full well that there aren't enough of us conservative country-bumpkins to hold them accountable on election days. The overwhelming voter majority is urban and liberal. The first principle to be written into our county Charter (Constitution) will be that the people will be the ultimate political power - through new rights of Initiative, Referendum and Recall, they will have the power to make new law, repeal enacted laws and bureaucratic regulations, and recall (fire) elected officials. As a brilliant afterthought, we also decided to empower the people to overturn or reduce the severity of any judicial ruling in our county courts. We haven't figured out a way yet to exercise this people-power over federal court judges, but we'll keep working on it. I have a feeling though that "humility lessons" to berobed judges in any court at all will give the whole judicial community an improved sense of accountability, which is desperately needed and long overdue. FWIW, Skip ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: freedom and apartheid Date: 19 Jan 1997 18:22:36 -0700 (MST) Is anyone interested in starting a thread concerning apartheid in America? I would like to make some comments concerning flaws in American constitutional history, with emphasis on the issue of slavery, in its varying forms. /s/ Paul Mitchell =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: More on Ebonics Date: 19 Jan 1997 22:34:00 -0500 This was sent to me by a friend on AOL. Enjoy Tom A friend of mine has an 18 year old son named Leroy. He attends Oakland High School where they teach ebonics as a second language. Last week he was given an easy homework assignment. All he had to do was use each of the following words in a sentence. This is what Leroy did: 1. Rectum...I had two Cadillacs, but my ol'lady rectum both. 2. Hotel...I gave my girlfriend da crabs and the hotel everybody. 3. Odyssey...I told my bro, you odyssey the jugs on this hoe. 4. Stain...My mother-in-law axed if I was stain for dinner again. 5. Seldom...My cousin gave me two tickets to the Knicks game, so I seldom. 6. Penis...I went to da doctor and he handed me a cup and said penis. 7. Catacomb...Don King was at the fight the other night, man, somebody give that catacomb. 8. Foreclose...If I pay alimony this month, I'll have no money foreclose. 9. Undermine...There is a fine lookin' hoe livin' in the apartment undermine. 10. Tripoli...I was gonna buy my old lady a bra but I couldn't fine no Tripoli. 11. Disappointment...My parole officer tol me if I missed disappoint- ment they gonna send me back to the give house. 12. Income...I just got in bed wit dee hoe and income my wife. 13. Honor...At the rape trial, the judge axed my buddy, who b honor first? 14. Fortify...I axed da hoe how much? And she say fortify. 15. Israel...Alonso tried to sell me a Rolex, I said main, that looks fake. He said no Israel. Needless to say, Leroy got an A. God bless America. "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: CNN PRESENTS, "Corridors of Power" re. "The Gun Lobby" Date: 19 Jan 1997 22:43:10 -0500 (EST) My impressions: A. The NRA has an immense, unfair influence on politics B. The NRA is a has-been, whose support is a political kiss of death A. Democrats recognize that it's time for lots of gun control B. The NRA unfairly supports Republicans preferentially over Democrats Demo "strategist" Ann Lewis (Barney Frank's sister, I think) opined that anyone who believes that the "assault weapon" (ugly gun) ban should be repealed is an "extremist." Lots of scary gun pictures. One interesting survey: Over many years, about 50+% of people surveyed reported that they owned guns. As recently as 1993, the figure was 51%. Last year, this figure dropped to 38%. CNN trumpeted the drop to show that Americans weren't interested in owning guns any more. Since I haven't noticed 1/3 of my neighbors dropping their guns in the river, I conclude that it is more likely that people are now afraid and/or disinterested in telling pollsters the truth about what they own. bd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Sylvester Subject: Re: CNN PRESENTS, "Corridors of Power" re. "The Gun Lobby" Date: 20 Jan 1997 00:24:46 -0600 At 10:43 PM 1/19/97 -0500, you wrote: >My impressions: > >A. The NRA has an immense, unfair influence on politics >B. The NRA is a has-been, whose support is a political kiss of death > >A. Democrats recognize that it's time for lots of gun control >B. The NRA unfairly supports Republicans preferentially over Democrats > >Demo "strategist" Ann Lewis (Barney Frank's sister, I think) opined that >anyone who believes that the "assault weapon" (ugly gun) ban should be >repealed is an "extremist." Guess that makes me an extremist, but that's OK, Remember what AuH20 said. >Lots of scary gun pictures. Racks and racks of sorry looking surplus and a few new ugly guns. >One interesting survey: Over many years, about 50+% of people surveyed >reported that they owned guns. As recently as 1993, the figure was 51%. >Last year, this figure dropped to 38%. CNN trumpeted the drop to show >that Americans weren't interested in owning guns any more. Since I >haven't noticed 1/3 of my neighbors dropping their guns in the river, I >conclude that it is more likely that people are now afraid and/or >disinterested in telling pollsters the truth about what they own. > My first thought exactly. Would you tell CNN, or anybody else who called on the phone, whether you owned guns or not? NOYB would be my answer. Of course they likely would count that as non-responsive and thus would not include me in the base used to determine the final %age of those who were gunowners. *Somebody* is sure buying alot of guns, that alone tends to take credence from their poll. The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution. ---Doug McKay" Joe Sylvester Don't Tread On Me ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Re: Federal Jury Acquits a Colorado Freeman (fwd) Date: 20 Jan 1997 09:13:22 -0800 Skip, >>>>>>> [...] As a brilliant afterthought, we also decided to empower the people to overturn or reduce the severity of any judicial ruling in our county courts. We haven't figured out a way yet to exercise this people-power over federal court judges, but we'll keep working on it. [...] <<<<<<< Perhaps in your new country, a piece of your charter would say something to the effect that all judges are to be elected by the people, and are _directly_ responsible to them. At no time will any judge elected by the people have any political contact of any variety with any person of any political party - or any other interested person elected to government, whilst holding office, under penalty of law that includes direct removal from office, and a penalty - if it shall be proven in a court of law said contact affected any decision, that includes mandatorily the full sentence that would be/have been awarded to a defendant in whatever case/s pending or adjudicated that can be proven to have been affected by such contact. Further, any official of elected or appointed office who seeks to in whatever way, affect the outcome of any law court decision, shall be removed from office and forfeit all prior compensations, personal property and monetary holdings to the opposition litigants, and shall be tried and punished to the fullest extent of the law. Under no circumstances, shall a judge have biased, (ie., to discuss any aspect of any case of law pending or having potential of appeal), contact with any member of the law enforcement establishment or of any person serving or known to be considered for appointment to such, or any member of the legal community, except in the presence of, and in the full notice of all other interested parties to whatever legal proceeding may be discussed, and in the presence of the whatever interested members of the press. Lacking full purview and attendance of all interested parties, said discussion cannot take place. All persons elected as judges, shall within 30 working days of assuming office, review in depth the content of a syllabus of all laws and regulations concerning the duties and responsibilities of judicial office, the Constitutions of the United States and of the State of Washington. In all cases concerning Rights protected by either Constitution, judges to elected office shall strictly enforce the _letter_ of the law _regardless_ of any prior case law or legislation to the contrary. The 'Bill of Rights' as articles of amendment to the U.S. Constitution have supremacy over all other laws or treaties of whatever party. In all such cases, the simplest and _most protective_ of all Rights enumerated and not, in the U.S. Constitution shall be the default upon which any decision shall render: In no case will a judge render a decision that diminishes any Right held by the people. In all cases, the decision will default to the side of greatest freedom - not less. In all cases where there is a conflict of enumerated Rights, the decision shall render a verdict that protects and shelters the Rights of af all concerned parties, while restricting practice of any Right only to the narrowest extent absolutely necessary, and only for the duration of time that the affected parties may be in conflict. A citizen commission empaneled for the purpose of judicial review, shall be instated upon request of not less than two thirds of the legal citizens in the community where subject jurist was elected, for the purposes of investigating any charges of corruption or questions of misfeasance or malfeasance on the part of said jurist. In any case in the above empaneled commission, the citizens retain the Right to review any prior decisions by the court of the subject judge, and request a direct review by the State Supreme Court as regards legality and subsequent disposition. Now before you consider the above an impossible thing to enstate, consider this: The dickweeds we forever put into public office are always thinking of ways to screw us. Now _you_ have a way of keeping them part way honest, by enacting laws which make darned sure they don't get real cozy with each other, or for that matter feel comfortable in office. I see things this way - the only reason most dirtbags graviate to public office is because they can make money doing it, or screw someone in the process. If _we_ make the prospect of holding office a matter of walking the _straight and narrow_, and assigining stiff penalties as a result of _not_, then only honest people will get there. The only way to protect your Rights, is to design a tripwire fence around them to keep the tyrants away - when you can't. Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Re: CNN PRESENTS, "Corridors of Power" re. "The Gun Lobby" Date: 20 Jan 1997 09:46:19 -0800 Joe, >>>>>>> [...] *Somebody* is sure buying alot of guns, that alone tends to take credence from their poll. <<<<<<< Now, you know that CNN can't let litte facts like that get in the way of 'reporting'. I haven't bought a gun in some time, and I just know the _same_ people aren't doing all that buying, cuz I mean to tell you that most people have a finite income and at least try to practice fiscal reponsibility. Soooo, . . . . Yup! We don't buy no guns! ;-) With all those forms being filled out, I'll bet the ATF is pooping its pants! Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: TV Movie Date: 20 Jan 1997 13:05:43 -0500 Not sure how to relate this to the Constitution, but: I heard an ad on a local (Boston) FM station for a made for TV movie about a guy whose young daughter has cancer, and who loses his job in the middle of this, etcetera. The movie features an appearance by President (gag) Clinton. The ad touted the "Family Medical Leave Act" as the saviour of the whole situation. Pretty slick mix of commercial interest and partisan propaganda. Who says these people can't learn? ciao, jcurtis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: PMRS update Date: 21 Jan 1997 12:10:55 -0800 [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] Department of the Treasury Internal Revenue Service Washington, D.C. 20224 Mr. Paul A. Mitchell Person to Contact: 2509 North Campbell - #1776 M. Zolton Tucson, AZ 85719 Telephone Number: (202) 622-6250 Refer Reply to: 96-1911 Date: DEC 13 1996 Dear Mr. Mitchell: This is in regard to your Freedom of Information Act request dated July 26, 1996, and your follow-up letter dated September 19, 1996, in which you asked for any and all financial records associated with the Performance Management and Recognition System (PMRS). In your original FOIA request, you indicated that you first wanted to be advised of the estimated cost involved in answering your request, if the cost should exceed $25. We have contacted the appropriate function that has custody of the records subject to your request, and have been advised that the estimated cost is $85. However, under the FOIA, the first 2 hours of search time are free for noncommercial requests. Therefore, in the case of a noncommercial use request, the cost would be $51. Since these amounts exceed the 25-dollar threshold, we will need your affirmation to pay the appropriate cost before we can continue processing your request. When you respond, make reference to the "reply to" number at the top of this letter and direct your response to the contact person shown above. Meanwhile, we will wait 30 days for your response before closing our file on this matter. Your cooperation in this matter is appreciated. Sincerely, /s/ Mark L. Zolton Tax Law Specialist Freedom of Information # # # ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Beatific Belly Laugh! [Fwd: FRATRICIDE Extra] (fwd) Date: 20 Jan 1997 10:27:26 PST Found this on another list, have a Beatific Belly Laugh! :-) Blasted are the Anti-Guners, for they shall become Targets! :-) On Jan 20, Mark Aiello wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Here's something to make y'all laugh on this cold winter Monday. :) >FRATRICIDE: > an irregular microzine of > immoderate opinion > by > Redmon Barbry > Inauguration EXTRA > January 20, 1997 >________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________ > >Gospel: > 3. Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom > of heaven. > 4. Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. > 5. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. > 6. Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after > righteousness: for they shall be filled. > 7. Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. > 8. Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. > 9. Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the > children of God. > 10. Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' > sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. > 11. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute > you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, > for my sake. > 12. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in > heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were > before you. > ... Matthew 5:3-11, "The Sermon on the Mount" >________________________________________________________________ > >Homily: > A couple of years ago, President Clinton declared during a >speech on some aspect of his foreign policy that, "Blessed are >the peacemakers, for they shall inherit the earth," thus >apparently confounding Matthew 5:9 with Matthew 5:5. Everyone >at the time mistook this for a slip of the rhetorical tongue, >but it was not so: it was, in fact, the pronouncement of a new >and previously unsuspected beatitude. > I will skip discussion of all the erroneous inferences about >how much time Mr. Clinton spent listening in Sunday School or >what dimwit writes his speeches (I think he writes most of them >himself), and pass on to the larger, and in the long run, far >more significant, issue of his announcing the existence of a new >beatitude. Because of the Source for the original Beatitudes, >it has long been felt by most people that the canon of >Beatitudes was closed and has been so for a considerable time. >Thus we have nine Beatitudes, we have always had only nine, and >we will never have more than nine, according to our narrow and, >I must say, in retrospect, unimaginative attitudes toward such >things. But Mr. Clinton, always urging us to retain an open >mind, has introduced the idea that the canon, or in more >up-to-date phraseology, the operational envelope, of the >Beatitudes can be expanded. > In recognition of this breakthrough in theology and moral >philosophy, and also to help to install and make permanent this >striking addition to the landscape of American rhetoric, I >present, > > The William Jefferson Clinton > Beatitude Generator > > A quick introduction to give a little background and some >operating instructions: The rubric of the generalized beatitude >is > > "Blessed are the , for accrues to the members of the class>," > >called, for short, the Generalized Beatitude Pattern Sentence, >or GBPS. By providing new classes to be substituted for >in the GBPS, and new blessings to be substituted for blessing...>, new and hitherto unimagined beatitudes can be >produced. > In this device, there are two columns of words or phrases, >the left one describing the various classes to be considered, >and the other giving the specific nature of the blessings. >Accordingly, there are ten rows of choices, numbered from zero >to nine. The way the generator is used is as follows: at need, >choose a number between 0 and 99 at random from some reliable >source, like a phone book or a government-approved random-number >table (with the latter, you can be sure that the numbers are >truly random); use the first digit to select the class; use the >second digit to select the blessing; then place the resulting >selections into the GBPS; voila! a new beatitude. This >mechanism provides for the generation of up to 100 new >beatitudes! > Let's try one from scratch, just for practice. Choose 24 as >the random number (and a fine random number it is!), and see >that it selects, respectively, "doctrinaire socialists" and >"they shall assist in electing Bill Clinton to a second term." >Plug these selections into the GBPS, and we have, "Blessed are >doctrinaire socialists, for they shall assist in electing Bill >Clinton to a second term," a worthy sentiment if ever I heard >one. > As you become more experienced with this mechanism, you can >begin to substitute new classes for the ones in the list, as >well as substituting any new blessings you might be able to >think of. In fact, you can dream up a whole new table! That >way, you can have your own personal, private set of beatitudes >that you can call upon whenever you need to. > One final instruction: if you choose a number less than ten, >just imagine the zero in front. We would not want to leave out >the rabid labor leaders, would we? > Have fun! And keep those new beatitudes coming! > > > >0. rabid labor leaders they shall be thought to be > progressive > >1. the purchasers of they are candidates for the > Hillary's book American nomenclatura > >2. doctrinaire socialists they shall be awarded the Vincent > Foster Medal for Persistence > >3. agitators for doctor- they shall be considered as > assisted suicide vice-presidential material > >4. protectors of endangered they shall assist in electing > beetles Bill Clinton to a second term > >5. large contributors to they shall reap huge tax benefits > the Democratic Party > >6. those who invent new they will not have to listen to a > constitutional rights four-hour foreign policy > briefing by Warren Christopher > >7. those who think the sky they shall be given bits of the > is falling rain-forest to protect > >8. congressmen who support they are invited to an all- > the president like mad vegetarian hotdog picnic on the > dogs lawn of the White House > >9. fans of Surgeon-General they will not have to pay "nanny" > Joycelyn Elders taxes > > > That's all there is to it, folks. Now, you try it! > >Redmon Barbry >rbarb@deltos.deltos.com > http://redmon.deltos.com/homepage.htm >________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________ > >N.B.: This microscopic electronic magazine, or microzine, is >solely a work of opinion by the author. No funds, >subscriptions, or submissions are solicited, though help, >comments, and suggestions are always welcome. FRATRICIDE will >always be an e-mail zine. Send mail requesting distribution of >FRATRICIDE to rbarb@deltos.com, and I will include you in the >(roughly) monthly mailing. An archive of FRATRICIDE is >maintained at the FRATRICIDE Home Page at > http://redmon.deltos.com/frat.htm [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: stop taxing federal judges Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:30:21 -0800 Dear America, We must stop taxing the compensation of federal judges, and the sooner the better. Here are my reasons, off the top of my head (in a fairly logical order, however): 1. Evans v. Gore is controlling, notwithstanding the so-called 16th Amendment, because said "amendment" never repealed Article III, Section 1; repeals by implication are not favored, on authority of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals; Evans has never been overturned (see Shepard's Citations), notwithstanding the UCLA Law Review article which alleges the contrary. 2. 16th Amendment was effectively demolished by respondent's total silence in People v. Boxer, California Supreme Court, case number S-030016, December 1992: a Petition for Writ of Mandamus compelling Boxer to witness the evidence against the ratification of said proposal. 3. Title 26 has never been enacted into positive law, therefore Title 1 U.S.C. and IRC 7851(a)(6)(A) both control, specifically, the provisions of subtitle F have never taken effect; subtitle F contains all the enforcement provisions of the IRC. 4. The only liability statutes anywhere in the IRC (as distinct from Title 26) are found in the provisions for withholding agents; one does not become a withholding agent until and unless s/he accepts a valid W-4 Employee's Withholding Allowance certificate (allowing withholding). 5. The regulations at 26 CFR 1.1-1(a) thru (c) are overly broad for imposing liabilities which are not authorized by statute, specifically, on "citizens of the United States" [sic] and on "residents of the United States" [sic]. The doctrine of "implied legislative consent" cannot stand against the points supra. 6. The term "citizen of the United States" has its constitutional origin in the so-called 14th Amendment, which was never lawfully ratified, rendering section 4 of that alleged amendment null and void ab initio and permitting federal judges to question the validity of the public debt. 7. The only basis remaining for taxing the compensation of federal judges is the Downes Doctrine, which cannot be extended into the state zone and to the judges who preside on federal courts established for the state zone; the Downes Doctrine is obsolete, because Justice Harlan was correct: the limitations of the Constitution extend to the farthest reaches of the known universe, as far as federal employees are concerned. 8. The Downes Doctrine was attacked properly In re Grand Jury Subpoena Served on New Life Health Center Company, but United States District Judge John M. Roll exceeded his discretion by failing to rule on the motion before him to that end. 9. Title 31 has been enacted into positive law, pursuant to Title 1, United States Code, but the "Internal Revenue Service" is not listed in the organizational structure of the U.S. Department of the Treasury; the only mention is an authority for the President to appoint the General Counsel for the "Internal Revenue Service". 10. The "Internal Revenue Service" has now been proven to be an alias for Trust #62 which is domiciled in Puerto Rico under the Federal Alcohol Administration, which was declared unconstitutional in the year 1935 by the U.S. Supreme Court; we can prove that the FAA had its historical roots in Prohibition, which was motivated by the goal of monopolizing automotive fuels for the benefit of the petroleum cartel. See attached Affidavit of author Paul Andrew Mitchell, summarizing this motive. 11. Taxing federal employees creates an unnecessary and deceptive bureaucracy, the primary purpose of which is to skim money from the treasury, for the benefit of foreign banks and their alien owners; Congress should advertise the "real" compensation paid to federal employees, and exempt them from filing returns and from paying taxes on an "inflated" salary which the employee never sees. For this reason, the Public Salary Tax Act should be repealed, because its deceptive purpose is unconstitutional. 12. The court of original jurisdiction to prosecute violations of the IRC is defined in a statute which is found in subtitle F; subtitle F has never taken effect because Title 26 has never been enacted into positive law; for this reason alone, criminal prosecutions for violations of the IRC are legally impossible and create a massive tort liability for the United States; see People v. United States as a foundation for quantifying the real damages which have already been done. 13. All federal government actions which were done under authority of the Secretary of the Treasury during Lloyd's Bentsen's term in that office were ultra vires, because he violated the U.S. Constitution when he voted to increase the pay for that office, as a U.S. Senator, and then he vacated his Senate seat to claim the office of Secretary; however, he was not eligible for that office until the end of his Senate term; a FOIA request for a list of all civil and criminal cases which were brought under his watch has not been answered to date; this, again, has created a massive tort liability for the United States (see point 12 above); failure to answer this FOIA is tantamount to obstruction of justice. See IRC 7401 for the implications; however, IRC 7401 is found in subtitle F (see discussion above). 14. Lloyd Bentsen was unable to delegate any authority downwards during the period during which he claimed to occupy the office of Secretary of the Treasury; this disability means that all tax assessments which were made by the Internal Revenue Service were ultra vires, because the assessment officers could not exercise any delegated authority. See U.S. v. Brafman for a court authority holding that assessment officers must sign assessments before they can be valid; without delegation of authority, the signatures are not those of assessment officers. 15. The Appointment Affidavits signed by IRS employees are unconscionable contracts, because they indicate the employees' intention to support the Constitution of the United States; however, it is quite simply impossible for Citizens to enforce, and it is also quite simply impossible for public employees to obey, their solemn oath to support the U.S. Constitution, if the weight of material evidence now proves that the exact provisions of that Constitution are still in doubt, for any reason. See discussion of 14th and 16th amendments [sic] supra. 16. Again, the respondents In re Grand Jury Subpoena properly and timely raised this objection, when the first Appointment Affidavit was produced by the so-called "Special Agent" in that case, in response to a proper request brought under the Freedom of Information Act, but U.S. District Judge John M. Roll abused his discretion by failing to rule on that motion and decided instead to commit over 100 felonies, including but not limited to 28 counts of mail fraud, 28 counts of jury tampering, 28 counts of obstruction of justice, and 28 counts of conspiracy to commit all of the above. We have more, if you want more. /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: INFO: Remarks By NRA/ILA Head to Political Consultants (& CNN) (fwd) Date: 20 Jan 1997 18:58:54 PST On Jan 20, NRA Alerts wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] American Association of Political Consultants Fifth General Session on "Issue Advocacy" Opening Remarks by Mrs. Tanya K. Metaksa Chairman, National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund and Executive Director, NRA Institute for Legislative Action January 17, 1997 I was interviewed for a CNN special on NRA that airs this Sunday evening. In a good interview, you expect sharp-edged questions, and CNN's Frank Sesno did not disappoint. A healthy exchange between journalist and newsmaker -- hopefully -- results in a better-informed public. But, inevitably, some things do surprise you. And what surprised me was CNN's reaction to a theme in NRA political advertising. Frankly, it's a theme that appears throughout NRA membership materials, too. That theme, simply put, is freedom. Some people might think it a cute phrase, but, to the average NRA member, NRA really is people protecting freedom. To the average NRA member, the Second Amendment, like the entire Bill of Rights, is all about freedom. Just prior to Election '96, NRA members around the country opened their mail and found a letter from me with a bumpersticker. Like our billboards, our bumper stickers read, "PROTECT FREEDOM. ELECT BOB BARR." "PROTECT FREEDOM, ELECT SUE KELLY." "PROTECT FREEDOM. ELECT VIRGIL GOODE." Over and over again -- in 10,000 races across the country -- federal, state and local -- the theme was freedom. I was surprised at CNN's unwillingness to accept NRA's association with freedom. Perhaps they've changed their mind. One way or the other, we'll find out Sunday night. The point is this. If we are discussing issue advocacy today, we are discussing the topic of freedom. If we are discussing our ability to advocate positions on public issues, we are still discussing the topic of freedom. And we must insist that it grow. Elected officials do not engineer policy in private. They work with the people to engineer policy in public. Advocacy drives democracy. Democracy shouldn't respond by driving down advocacy. You must work for my freedom of expression, and I must work for yours. Today, there is erected a legal, regulatory wall between issue advocacy and political advocacy. And the wall is built of the same sturdy material as the emperor's clothing. Everyone sees it. No one believes it. It is foolish to believe there is any practical difference between issue advocacy and advocacy of a political candidate. What separates issue advocacy and political advocacy is a line in the sand drawn on a windy day. We engaged in issue advocacy in many locations around the country. Take Bloomington, Indiana, for example. Billboards in that city read, "Congressman Hostettler is right. "Gun laws don't take criminals off Bloomington's streets. "Call 334-1111 and thank him for fighting crime by getting tough on criminals." Guess what? We really hoped people would vote for the Congressman, not just thank him. And people did. When we're three months away from an election, there's not a dime's worth of difference between "thanking" elected officials and "electing" them. And elect them we did. We were successful in 84% of the 10,000 races in which we were involved last year. We conducted independent expenditures -- political advocacy -- in some 130 races. And we placed issue advocacy ads in perhaps a dozen or less. My guess is, we'll see just as many independent expenditures in 1998 -- and more issue advocacy. I know there are those who clamor for change. To them, I would share what the U.S. Supreme Court said in 1976 in Buckley vs. Valeo: "restrictions on advocacy of the election or defeat of political candidates are wholly at odds with the guarantees of the First Amendment." Certainly that's the case with issue advocacy. Yes, there are those who think there's something wrong with the shouting and the clatter of ideas in the marketplace. But that's what freedom sounds like. There are those who think there's something impolite in the push and shove of political campaigning. There is something impolite there, but that's what freedom feels like. When the United States was born, the babe was not wrapped in the pages of the Federalist Papers. The babe was wrapped in fierce broadsides, scathing handbills and libelous tracts. Candidates were called all manner of evil, sons of Satan, agents of foreign powers. Most of us obey the federal election laws. Most of us strive to be civil. And, in the words of David Brinkley in his election night tribute to Bill Clinton, "we all look forward to ... four years of wonderful, inspiring speeches, full of wit, poetry, music, love and affection -- plus more ... nonsense." But Brinkley is mild. Listen to a Connecticut newspaper which warned its readers that if one particular candidate won election, "Murder, robbery, rape, adultery and incest would be openly taught and practiced." The year? 1800? The candidate? Thomas Jefferson. Let's face it. Freedom may not tidy, but freedom is what we live for. And freedom is how we live. =+=+=+=+ This information is provided as a service of the National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action, Fairfax, VA. This and other information on the Second Amendment and the NRA is available at: http://WWW.NRA.Org [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: ALERT: Federal - National Right-to-Carry Bill Introduced (fwd) Date: 20 Jan 1997 21:14:43 PST On Jan 20, NRA Alerts wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] NRA-ILA FAX ALERT 11250 Waples Mill Road * Fairfax, VA 22030 Phone: 1-800-392-8683 * Fax: 703-267-3918 * GROOTS@NRA.org Vol. 4, No. 3 1/17/97 NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY BILL INTRODUCED It's official! Rep. Cliff Stearns (R-Fla.) has introduced H.R. 339 -- the national right to carry reciprocity bill. H.R. 339 would allow citizens permitted to carry firearms in their home states to carry firearms in all other states -- including states that currently prohibit carrying concealed firearms, such as Kansas, Nebraska and Ohio. Action Alert: Please call your U.S. Representative at (202) 224-3121 and urge him to support and sign-on as a co-sponsor to H.R. 339! NRA TESTIFIES ON TAGGANTS: This week, NRA-ILA Executive Director Tanya Metaksa addressed a panel of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) on the issue of placing microscopic identifiers known as "taggants" into black and smokeless powders. In 1996, the U.S. Congress passed legislation calling for two studies of the taggants issue before they take any legislative action. While the focus of the first study was explosives, rather than gun powders, Mrs. Metaksa took advantage of this opportunity to express NRA's concern over the safety of introducing taggants into black and smokeless powders. She noted that there has only been one competent taggants analysis done by government agency in the late 1970s. And while the study was limited in its scope, it found that taggants "significantly reduced stability" of black and smokeless powders, and could give rise to "spontaneous combustion." She also enumerated NRA's concerns over usefulness, cost, effects on guns and what, if any, benefit taggants will serve as a law enforcement tool. These concerns were echoed in testimony by Christopher Ronay, the President of the Institute Makers of Explosives and an 18-year veteran of the FBI's Explosives Division. In his remarks, Mr. Ronay cast serious doubts about the benefits of taggants in explosives, and discredited many of the myths surrounding the oft-repeated claims raised by taggants supporters -- including whether the Swiss government's tagging of explosives has really done anything substantive in solving crimes and preventing future ones. The results of this first study are expected in May. Stay tuned! PARTY POLITICS: This week, President Clinton tapped Colorado Governor Roy Romer as his choice for Democratic National Committee's (DNC) General Chair. The anti-gun Romer (who received a "D" grade from NRA-PVF in 1994) still needs to be approved by the 431-member DNC, which will meet the day after the inauguration -- January 21. Romer, who because of a new term limits law, can't seek another term in 1998, is also rumored to be a potential Senate challenger to Republican Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell. Meanwhile, the Republican National Committee is selecting its successor to Chairman Haley Barbour today, and most of the contenders for the post are pro-gun. Look for results of this election in next week's FAX Alert. A LOOK AT THE STATES: Oklahoma: On Wed., January 22, the Department of Wildlife Conservation (DWC) will hold a public hearing on safety standards and guidelines for shooting ranges that could lead to preventing law suits to shut down ranges. The meeting will be held at 7:00 p.m., in the Auditorium at the DWC Bldg., at 1801 N. Lincoln Blvd., in Oklahoma City. Please attend the hearing and voice your opinions on how the standards and guidelines should be implemented. Mississippi: H 33, an NRA-backed right to carry reform bill, is currently awaiting action in the House Judiciary B committee. H 33 would reduce the time for which permits are currently issued and requires Mississippi to recognize out-of-state permits if the permit is issued by a state that recognizes Mississippi permits. Please call your State Representatives and urge them to support H 33. Nebraska: Sen. Stan Schellpeper has introduced LB 465, NRA- backed right to carry legislation and Sen. Jennie Robak introduced LB 350, NRA-backed legislation protecting shooting ranges from certain noise ordinances and nuisance actions aimed at shutting them down. Please call your State Senators and urge them to support LB 465 & LB 350. Ohio: On Tue., January 21, the Toledo City Council will hold a hearing to discuss the Mayor's proposed ordinance that includes gun bans, licensing & registration schemes, and mandatory storage requirements. Tuesday's hearing will take place at 1 Government Center, in the first floor city council room at 4:00 p.m. Please attend the hearing and call the City Council at (419) 245-1050 and the Mayor's office at (419) 245-1001 to express your opposition. Texas: This week, Sen. Jerry Patterson and Rep. Bill Carter held a press conference to announce the introduction of SB 204 and HB 461, NRA-backed right to carry reform bills which roll back restrictions on where licensees may lawfully carry, preempt local regulation of license holders and set up reciprocal licensing provisions for non-residents who travel through or visit Texas. Please call your State Senators and Representatives and urge them to support SB 204 & HB 461. ATTENTION ARKANSAS AND OHIO MEMBERS: Two killers may be released into your community -- soon! In Arkansas, Arthur Littell, convicted of first-degree murder and sentenced to 50 years in prison for the shooting death of Kenny Kisner in Lonoke County in 1978, will have a parole hearing in February. In Ohio, Roger Knight, who plea-bargained to voluntary manslaughter and was sentenced to 7-25 years in prison for the strangulation death of his wife Claudia Knight in Franklin County in 1992, will have a parole hearing on March 3. NRA CrimeStrike needs your help in obtaining the signatures of Arkansas and Ohio residents to stop these paroles. Call NRA CrimeStrike at 1-800-TOUGH-11 for more information and how you can do to help keep these killers behind bars! ATTENTION COLORADO: If you plan to attend the Denver Sportsman's Show this weekend at the Colorado Convention Center, be sure to stop by the NRA booth & pick up your FREE Grassroots Kit! Your kit will include information on issues we're likely to see debated in the state as well as the U.S. Congress -- so please stop by! SPECIAL NOTE: NRA offices will be closed on Monday, January 20th, in observance of the Martin Luther King holiday and Inauguration day. Our offices will re-open on Tuesday, January 21 at 8:30 a.m. =+=+=+=+ This information is provided as a service of the National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action, Fairfax, VA. This and other information on the Second Amendment and the NRA is available at: http://WWW.NRA.Org [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Remarks By NRA/ILA Head to Political Consultants (& CNN) (fwd) Date: 21 Jan 1997 03:48:10 -0800 We are not a democracy. We are a republic. See the Guarantee Clause. /s/ Paul Mitchell At 06:58 PM 1/20/97 PST, you wrote: >On Jan 20, NRA Alerts wrote: > >[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > > American Association of Political Consultants > Fifth General Session on "Issue Advocacy" > > Opening Remarks by > Mrs. Tanya K. Metaksa > > Chairman, National Rifle Association Political Victory Fund > and > Executive Director, NRA Institute for Legislative Action > > January 17, 1997 > > >I was interviewed for a CNN special on NRA that airs this Sunday >evening. In a good interview, you expect sharp-edged questions, >and CNN's Frank Sesno did not disappoint. A healthy exchange >between journalist and newsmaker -- hopefully -- results in a >better-informed public. > >But, inevitably, some things do surprise you. > >And what surprised me was CNN's reaction to a theme in NRA >political advertising. Frankly, it's a theme that appears >throughout NRA membership materials, too. > >That theme, simply put, is freedom. > >Some people might think it a cute phrase, but, to the average NRA >member, NRA really is people protecting freedom. > >To the average NRA member, the Second Amendment, like the entire >Bill of Rights, is all about freedom. > >Just prior to Election '96, NRA members around the country opened >their mail and found a letter from me with a bumpersticker. >Like our billboards, our bumper stickers read, > > "PROTECT FREEDOM. ELECT BOB BARR." > > "PROTECT FREEDOM, ELECT SUE KELLY." > > "PROTECT FREEDOM. ELECT VIRGIL GOODE." > >Over and over again -- in 10,000 races across the country -- >federal, state and local -- the theme was freedom. > >I was surprised at CNN's unwillingness to accept NRA's >association with freedom. Perhaps they've changed their mind. >One way or the other, we'll find out Sunday night. > >The point is this. > >If we are discussing issue advocacy today, we are discussing the >topic of freedom. > >If we are discussing our ability to advocate positions on public >issues, we are still discussing the topic of freedom. > >And we must insist that it grow. Elected officials do not >engineer policy in private. They work with the people to >engineer policy in public. > >Advocacy drives democracy. Democracy shouldn't respond by >driving down advocacy. You must work for my freedom of >expression, and I must work for yours. > >Today, there is erected a legal, regulatory wall between issue >advocacy and political advocacy. > >And the wall is built of the same sturdy material as the >emperor's clothing. > >Everyone sees it. No one believes it. > >It is foolish to believe there is any practical difference >between issue advocacy and advocacy of a political candidate. >What separates issue advocacy and political advocacy is a line in >the sand drawn on a windy day. > >We engaged in issue advocacy in many locations around the >country. Take Bloomington, Indiana, for example. Billboards in >that city read, > > "Congressman Hostettler is right. > > "Gun laws don't take criminals off Bloomington's streets. > > "Call 334-1111 and thank him for fighting crime by getting > tough on criminals." > >Guess what? We really hoped people would vote for the >Congressman, not just thank him. And people did. When we're >three months away from an election, there's not a dime's worth of >difference between "thanking" elected officials and "electing" >them. > >And elect them we did. We were successful in 84% of the 10,000 >races in which we were involved last year. We conducted >independent expenditures -- political advocacy -- in some 130 >races. And we placed issue advocacy ads in perhaps a dozen or >less. My guess is, we'll see just as many independent >expenditures in 1998 -- and more issue advocacy. > >I know there are those who clamor for change. > >To them, I would share what the U.S. Supreme Court said in 1976 >in Buckley vs. Valeo: > > "restrictions on advocacy of the election or defeat of > political candidates are wholly at odds with the guarantees > of the First Amendment." > >Certainly that's the case with issue advocacy. > >Yes, there are those who think there's something wrong with the >shouting and the clatter of ideas in the marketplace. But that's >what freedom sounds like. > >There are those who think there's something impolite in the push >and shove of political campaigning. There is something impolite >there, but that's what freedom feels like. > >When the United States was born, the babe was not wrapped in the >pages of the Federalist Papers. The babe was wrapped in fierce >broadsides, scathing handbills and libelous tracts. Candidates >were called all manner of evil, sons of Satan, agents of foreign >powers. > >Most of us obey the federal election laws. Most of us strive to >be civil. And, in the words of David Brinkley in his election >night tribute to Bill Clinton, "we all look forward to ... four >years of wonderful, inspiring speeches, full of wit, poetry, >music, love and affection -- plus more ... nonsense." > >But Brinkley is mild. > >Listen to a Connecticut newspaper which warned its readers that >if one particular candidate won election, "Murder, robbery, rape, >adultery and incest would be openly taught and practiced." > >The year? 1800? The candidate? Thomas Jefferson. > >Let's face it. Freedom may not tidy, but freedom is what we live >for. And freedom is how we live. > >=+=+=+=+ >This information is provided as a service of the National Rifle >Association Institute for Legislative Action, Fairfax, VA. > >This and other information on the Second Amendment and the NRA is >available at: http://WWW.NRA.Org > >[------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] > >-- >An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep >weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your >hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder >on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Maurice Strong To Head up UN Reform (fwd) Date: 21 Jan 1997 07:24:29 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Patriots: This is really good news! The faster the advocates of global governance attempt to acheive their agenda the better. Hopefully Strong will display his collectivist wit, and move the moment of truth closer. Strong is one of those global governance types who thinks that the people of the United States have surrendered their principles of Enlightenment to Brutland the Brute. I just hope we all have the intestinal fortitude to walk our talk. Interestingly enough, one can see how the current events with Gingrich and the "Conspiracy Commerce" propaganda can be used by the Klintonista regime. Paint Gingrich to get a Democratic Congress in 1998 and impose a "fairness doctrine" to kill the First Amendment in order to ratify the International Criminal Court and other far-reaching proposals. Sua Sponte, Richard R. Biondi ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Reply-To: "Conference wfm.general" I thought this article would be of interest to folks: Don ============================= Canadian Picked As Top Adviser On U.N. Reform By John M. Goshko Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, January 17 1997; Page A24 The Washington Post UNITED NATIONS, Jan. 16 -- Maurice F. Strong, a Canadian businessman who has undertaken several U.N. missions, today was named senior adviser to new Secretary General Kofi Annan to assist planning and executing a far-reaching reform of the world body. ---- Don Kraus is the director of the Partners for Global Change, the national action program of the World Federalist Association. Imagine a democratic world federation limited to achieving positive global goals that nations could not accomplish alone. Visit our web site at http://www.wfa.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Conspiracy Fact vs. Government Fabrication (fwd) Date: 21 Jan 1997 07:40:40 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Cc: A-albionic Weekly Up-date Newgroups: talk.politics.guns, talk.politics, alt.politics.usa, alt.politics.radical-left, alt.politics.org.covert, alt.politics.org.batf, alt.conspiracy.new-world-order, misc.activism.militia, alt.acitivism, alt.conspiracy.jfk, alt.conspiracy, alt.politics.org.fbi, alt.mindcontrol, alt.politics.org.cia, alt.journalism, alt.illuminati, alt.extropians, alt.politics.libertarian, talk.politics.libertarian A-albionic Research Weekly Up-date of 01-18-97 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ In This Issue 1. Conspiracy Fact vs Government Fabrication by Ian Goddard 2. 20/20 Covers OKC Bombing Foreknowledge by FBI/BATF! 3. New Additions to Recommended Reading Catalog PBS: Behind the Screen by Laurence Jarvik Oklahoma City Bombing: The Suppressed Truth by Jon Rappoport 1. C O N S P I R A C Y F A C T v s G O V T F A B R I C A T I O N by Ian Williams Goddard The question was recently put to me in the course of an internet dialog regarding conspiracy theories: "Ian, can you give examples of conspiracy theories which have been proven true?" Toward the satisfac- tion of this question I offered the following: IAN: If we define "proven true" as "that which is accepted by the GovtMedia," and thus by the majority of people, I'd be hard-pressed to point to a conspir- acy "proven true." If we define "proven true" as "consistent with facts," then there are many con- spiracy theories proven true, such as: CONSPIRACY THEORY 1: Attica prison guards killed all the prisoners and hostages dur- ing the 1971 Attica prison riot. FACT: The GovtMedia reported that the prisoners cut the hostage's throats. Headlines even read "I Saw The Slit Throats." Recently, 25 years later, the man who did the autopsies, Dr. Baden, said on the HBO se- ries "Autopsy" that the guards shot everyone and the stories to the contrary were a Big Lie. Yet the media- line is still the government-line. It becomes clear after a little research that, by design or by default, the media serves the State. CONSPIRACY THEORY 2: Many people who died during the final assault on the Branch Davidian community in Waco, TX, were killed by the FBI, not at the hands of Davidian mem- bers as reported. The GovtMedia conspires to cover-up and censor the facts proving this. FACT 1: The major media widely reported that the child- ren determined to have died due to blunt-force trauma were beaten to death by their parents. Putting the lie to this report, in November of '93, the pathologist who did the autopsies, Dr. Rodney Crowe, said on the Maury Povich Show that the children who died of blunt-force trauma were in fact crushed to death after a tank rammed the concrete room they and their mothers were in trying to escape the tank attack. The ramming caused significant portions of the insides of the concrete walls to fragment and fall on to the more than 40 women and children in- side the concrete room called the "bunker" by the media. Dr. Crowe was irate about the media's fraudulent report that claimed these children were beaten to death by their parents, when in fact they were killed by FBI tanks that rammed the room, which, due to widespread bugging, the FBI must have known the women and children where in. FACT 2: Medical examiner Nizaam Peerwani testified at the Davidian's trial (transcripts: 5979, 6029) that many women and children in the concrete room died due to suffocation after being buried under debris from the collapsing walls, which, as Dr. Crowe noted, was caused by a tank ramming the room. The autopsy report states that these women and children died by "suffoca- tion due to overlay and burial in structural collapse." Did you hear about this anywhere in the news ? FACT 3: According to former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, infra-red (FLIR) video taken from the FBI's own helicopter proves that, with full-automatic machineguns, the FBI fired heavily into the Mt Carmel center just as the fire started, which was when people would most likely try to exit. The FLIR video also proves that Davidians did NOT fire out at the tanks on that day as reported by the GovtMedia. That bit of disinformation was a key pre- text to speeding up the demolition of the building. Ramsey Clark will be using this FLIR video in upcoming wrongful death suits against the so-called "Department of Justice." Ramsey Clark spoke about this FLIR video footage at the April 19, 1996 memorial gathering in Waco, TX. FACT 4: Toxicologist Dr. William Marcus, testified at the Congressional Hearings on Waco that the CS molecule con- tains a "cyanide radical" that could have been transderm- ally absorbed by the children due to their thin skin. CS also converts to hydrogen cyanide when burned. In fact, surviving bodies where found to contain very high levels of cyanide. Dr. Marcus also observed that CS is a heavy particle that was suspended in the air like a gas only for a brief period, carried by the flammable and toxic agent methyl chloride, thus CS particles fall quickly to the ground. The FBI calculated that if spread evenly over the known sq. feet of indoor space, the tons of CS pumped in should not have exceeded safe levels. But this was a deception because, as CS quickly falls, very high concentrations would be found toward the floor along with the children and fallen adults, in fact, 10 to 100x higher than if uniformly distributed. I believe that these facts prove the conspiracy theory that the government killed many or most of the people who died on April 19, 1993 at Waco, TX. The facts also strongly suggest, to say the least, that the government killed with intent. They also prove that the media cen- sors all those facts that indicate govt culpability in favor of false claims that demonize the victims of gov- ernment abuse, thereby rendering the media a willing ac- cessory to mass murder and to the obstruction of justice. CONSPIRACY THEORY 3: The FBI facilitated and allowed the World Trade Center bombing to happen when they could have stopped it. FACTS: As reported by The New York Times (10/28/93) and CNN, Mr Salem, a 43-year-old former Egyptian Army offi- cer, was used by the FBI to infiltrate the terrorists later charged in the Trade Center bombing. The original plan told to Mr Salem was that his job was to see to it that fake explosives were used, then the bombers would be busted for planting what they thought was a real bomb with no possibility of anybody getting hurt. A good plan. Mr Salem secretly taperecorded hundreds of hours of his telephonic communications with authorities without their knowledge. The recordings reveal that the FBI changed the original plan and told Mr. Salem NOT to use the fake explosives but to use REAL explosives. The FBI agent who told him to use real explosives was adamant about this. I saw and heard this on CNN in '93 and could not believe my eyes and ears, I thought, "We'll never hear the end of this." Boy was I wrong, it totally disappeared. Alas, there is an excerpt of some of this that was printed in The New York Times (10/28/93) available at: http://www.netwrk2000.com/okbomnws.html While these recordings were played in preliminary court hearings, they were barred from the actual trial because Mr Salem made them without the permission of the FBI agents. The government can bug you without your permission, but the opposite is not also true -- that's tyranny. The tapes ex- ist, and they prove that the FBI de facto orchestrated the bombing of the World Trade Center, an act that would result in massive new police powers for the FBI. However, because the tapes were barred from court, the media simply pretends they don't exist and the truth is forever nullified from the official GovtMedia story, exiled to the dark allies of seedy conspiracy theory. They say that tens of thousands would have died if the truck-bomb had been able to park in the spot the bombers had reserved, right next to a key column, but when they got there a car had taken their spot. I'd like to think someone knew about this and parked the car there to save the lives of thousands of people. CONSPIRACY THEORY 4: The FBI fabricated evi- dence in the Oklahoma bombing investigation. FACT: Associated Press (04/10/96) states (emphasis added): Prosecutors agreed to turn over letters from FBI agent Frederic Whitehurts, who tested Mr. McVeigh's cloths for traces of explosives. Mr. Whitehurst has claimed that investigators FAKED evidence in the bombing case. CONSPIRACY THEORY 5: The Govt was both involved in the April 19, 1993 Oklahoma City bombing and had foreknowledge of it, and both the govt and the media are covering this up. FACT 1: Former Grand Juror Hoppy Heidelberg, in charge of evidence in the Oklahoma City bombing case, told the press that, "No one who saw McVeigh with other suspects [ such as John Doe #2 ], was ever allowed to testify be- fore the Federal Grand Jury." Mr. Heidelberg was eventu- ally thrown off the jury after he refused to stop asking questions about John Doe 2. His review of the best avail- able evidence lead him to conclude, as was reported in both the USA Today (10/19/95) and the AP: "I think they [ the government ] know who John Doe 2 is, and they are protecting him. This is because John Doe 2 was either a government agent or a government informant. Either way they [the govt] had...prior knowledge to the bombing and that's what they can't afford afford to come out." After this single report in the media, Mr. Heidelburg's story is for all intents and purposes gone with the wind -- no longer part of the picture. FACT 2: The Portland newspaper the OREGONIAN (4/20/95), states that Judge Wayne Alley, whose office sits across from the Murrah building, was warned several days prior to the blast by "security specialists" to take "special precautions." This story never resurfaced. FACT 3: The USA Today (4/20/95) reported that Harvy Weathers, of the Oklahoma City Fire Department, said that the fire dept. had received a call from the FBI prior to the bombing stating that there would be "some people en- tering the city over the weekend." Weathers did not ex- plain what this meant, but obviously an army of FBI were to enter the city after the bombing later the next week. "Over the weekend" would have been a few days before the bombing. Then consider that: FACT 4: Oklahoma State Representative Charles Key says that he knows of two witnesses who overheard ATF employ- ees state that they were warned not to come to work that day, indeed, even as the ATF was the supposed target of the bombing, no ATF agents were killed, and few if any showed up for work that day. OK Representative Key also points out that bomb squad employees were seen in front of the building at 7:15 am, about two hours prior to the blast. Rep. Key has conducted his own investigation and was so shocked with the evidence he uncovered, he compil- ed it into a video presentation, to be found at a site also promoting the bible: http://teaminfinity.com/ookkcc.html FACT 5: As reported by the Associated Press, the McVeigh defense team is in possession of a tape of a call made by the FBI to Oklahoma City officials warning of a possible terrorist event in the next few days made several days prior to the blast. FACT 6: As reported widely on CNN and TV stations across the nation, up to four primed bombs were found and defused inside what remained of the Murrah Center Federal Building on April 19, 1995. I have much of this on tape. How could bombs have been placed inside a large govt building with- out inside govt connections ? FACT 7: According to CNN, the bombs were found by bomb sniffing dogs. The ATF later said they were dummy bombs used for bomb training in the busy downtown office build- ing. If true, then, containing no explosives, explosives detecting dogs would not had tracked them down as they did, nor would munitions technicians have spent so much time defusing them as they did, for, training bombs are always clearly labeled as such. The ATF's "dummy bomb" story, is at odds with the facts. FACT 8: KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City reported on the 19th that that two or more of the bombs found inside were "far larg- er in magnitude than the fist that went off INSIDE the building" (seismic recorders at two locations, University of Oklahoma and the Omniplex Science Center, both recorded TWO blasts). A terrorist expert, Dr. Randall Heather, on KFOR-TV said, "We have both of the bombs that were defused at the site and they are being taken apart." KFOR-TV news coverage went on to say that another bomb was found strapp- ed to a column next to the day-care center. Up to four unex- ploded bombs where found inside by the end of the day. FACT 9: Brigadier General Partin (USAF, Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory, ret.), one of the top munitions ex- perts in the world, says that blast damage patterns are NOT consistent with an ANFO truck bomb. He says that demolition charges had to be placed on the columns, and sure enough, one was found attached to a column that failed to go off. Impor- tant excerpts of Partin's report along with many photographs may be found at (large page, select no graphics for speed): http://www.tncnet.com/~rsears/oak/explode.html FACT 10: The publication Veritas (5/9/95) states that bomb technicians inside the building on the 19th who were finding the unexploded bombs inside the building were heard to say over police radio: First voice: Boy your not going to believe this! Second voice: Believe what? First voice: This is a military bomb! At http://www.erols.com/igoddard/okbook.htm you will find an orderform for a book written by Michele Marie Moore Moore, an investigator in Oklahoma City who recorded hund- reds of hours of local TV, police, fire and EMT broadcasts that reveal the shocking untold truth about what really hap- pened in OK City. The result of the bombing was that the po- lice forces of the federal govt were given massive new pow- ers granted by the "Anti-terrorist Bill" signed at a large White House ceremony exactly one year after the OK bombing. You can may aquire the book "OKBOMB, Conspiracy and Cover- up," from A-albionic Research, P.O. Box 20273, Ferndale, MI 48220, for $18.90. Recommended Waco fact reference: "The Davidian Massacre." $9.00 book rate, or $11.00 first class. Mail to: Carol Moore, Box 65518, Washington, D.C. 20035. Disclaimer: I'm not making any money off the sale of these books. The above listing of facts is but a drop in the bucket of all facts that support and/or prove conspiracy on the part of the govt in only the few cases cited above. Need- less to say there are many other cases with significant evidence to suggest govt conspiracy, such as the assass- inations of President John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, and civil rights leader Martin Luther King, the Jonestown atrocity, the running of drugs, etc. All largely or en- tirely censored by the major media, except as the stories are breaking, prior, evidence dictates, to an organized effort to suppress. A society whose citizens refuse to see and investigate the facts, who refuse to believe that their government and their media will routinely lie to them and fabricate a reality contrary to verifiable facts, is a society that chooses and deserves the police-state dictator- ship it's going to get. ************************************************************************ IAN GODDARD (igoddard@erols.com) Q U E S T I O N A U T H O R I T Y VISIT Ian Goddard's Universe -----> http://www.erols.com/igoddard ________________________________________________________________________ (c) 1996 Ian Goddard -- (*) Free to copy nonprofit w/ attribute 2. 20/20 Covers OKC Bombing Foreknowledge by FBI/BAFT ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The ABC program 20/20 last night did an absolutely mind-blowing story on ATF and FBI foreknowledge of the OKC bombing. I've never seen anything like this on any topic since ABC's piece a few weeks back on OKC foreknowledge on their program EXTRA. They always got the ATF or DoJ line on the case, then every time took on a real investigation -- going behind big brothers back -- and at very turn they found the opposite to be true. Wow, I'm I dreaming? Real investigation??!! I have to give ABC a big thumbs !! Now they need to cover General Benton Partin's report. Geez, this is terrible for my "GovtMedia" nexus [theory]. 3. New Additions to Recommended Reading Catalog ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _PBS: Behind the Screen_ by Laurence Jarvik Cat#01082 year 1997 pp 336 hc/pb Hardcover price $25.00 In Print, In-stock, ready to ship The truth about the Public Broadcasting System: A taxpayer-subsidized playground for elitists in league with the great Foundations and Corporations headed for a New World Order! Find out who is making a killing off this government protected institution. 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Note: Santa Cruz Island is located approximately 16 miles off the CA coast. It is run by the Park Service, but a portion of the land is leased to independent contractors who use the area as a refuge for blackpowder hunters and bow hunters. Headline: [Park service rangers raid Santa Cruz Island] Sub-headline: [20 officers conducted what is called a commando-style blitz on unarmed suspects. TEXT: [In a raid likened to a commando-style takeover, National Park Service rangers descended on rugged Santa Cruz Island, arrested two men for misdemeanor fish-and-game violations and a hunting guide for felony grave robbing.] The raid was assisted by Santa Barbara County sheriff's deputies. [On Wednesday, witnesses described the raid(s)..... as scenes straight out of "Apocalypse Now."] [They said a helicopter landed at about 11:30 a.m..... several heavily armed rangers and deputies emerged, clad in full body armor and black ski masks.] ["They cam running at us waving their machine guns, yelling: 'Get down! Get down! Get down!'" "We were face down in the mud. I turned my head to the side and they started screaming, 'Put your face in the dirt!'"] ["When you have 10 people with assault weapons yelling at you, you get meek. We were all frisked. None of us even had a pocket knife."] [Three officers with guns then burst into a bunkhouse where guest 15-year-old Crystal Grabeel of Soquel lay sleeping. "They told me to keep my hands where they could see them," she said.] Witnesses said they overheard officers say how they were told to expect a possible confrontation with people on the island who were armed and dangerous. Snipers were seen positioned around the perimeter. [Carol J. Spears, a park spokeswoman, said her agency had information that there were 53 hunters on the island armed with muzzle loaders and bullets. "To ensure the safety of officers, it was felt that proper procedures were necessary," including full tactical dress, flak jackets, rifles and semiautomatic pistols, she said.] ["We used a very low-kwy approach," she said] ["These people have allegedly commited crimes," she said. "It's not like going out and having a tea aprty with the neighbors."] [As for the treatment of Crystal, who with her father were paid guests on the island, Spears said they had it on good authority that the teen, dressed in camouflage, was an expert bow hunter.] Another witness interviewed said: "I think it's a travesty that Ruby Ridge-style tactics are being employed by the federal government in this small island community..... it's an embarrassment." Yet another witness said that even though there may have been grounds for the arrests, there was no need for the military-style raid. The witness noted he personally knows several of the officers involved. "They could've walked up to me and said, 'Hey, you're under arrest,' and that would've been it." A Santa Barbara Deputy District Attorney (Darryl Perlin) said: "This is a criminal case. When you arrest people for crimes, be they felonies or misdemeanors, you use whatever force or procedures are necessary to accomplish that. This is not a Boy Scout meeting, where we all hold hands and say, 'Can't we all just get along?'" Involved witnesses, however, likened their encounter more to the Waco, Texas, shootout than a Boy Scout jamboree. "I thought I was going to die," said one. "They told me they felt they did their jon because they didn't have to kill any of us." (For the record: the grave robbing charge is bogus; the guy arrested had permission to crate Native American artifacts for a legal entity) So, there you have it guys. This one just about leaves me speechless, and that's hard to do. If I had to make any suggestions, it would be for some of you to get on your browsers and find the URL of the players involved (Park Service, Santa Barbara D.A.'s Office, Santa Barbara Sheriff's Office, etc) and unload on them. This is an absolute outrage as far as I'm concerned. I'm almost (but not quite) ashamed to say I used to be "one." If anyone out there has any input on how we can get our voices heard on this, speak up. We gotta do something! End of NOBAN Digest 790 *********************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lball@unlinfo.unl.edu (larry ball) Subject: Russia & Right To Carry Date: 21 Jan 1997 08:51:26 -0600 (CST) There was an interesting piece about Russia and the right to bear arms on BBC this morning. It seems that Boris Yeltsin has not only made it legal for lawful citizens to bear arms but is encouraging and promoting it. In fact it sounded to me like he was promoting the carry of ASSAULT WEAPONS, spell that AK47 Full Auto. Why? Because of the crime wave they are having. He believes that it is time for the citizens to call a halt to scuzzbutt behavior. The closing line by the BBC reporter in Moscow was that Boris seems to be trying to turn Russia into the old west of America. Well, the English government and Bill Clinton are trying to turn western civilization into a culture of pussys and slaves. Larry Ball lball@unlinfo.unl.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: Remarks By NRA/ILA Head to Political Consultants (& CNN) (fwd) Date: 21 Jan 1997 06:54:19 -0800 (PST) Never one to leave a picked nit alone, Boyd tosses in with: She didn't say we were a democracy, she said that > >Advocacy drives democracy. Democracy shouldn't respond by > >driving down advocacy. You must work for my freedom of > >expression, and I must work for yours. are you saying there are no democratic trends or forces in our republic? I agree with you that it is most irksome when people mistate what type of government we have, I just don't think she did it here. More importantly, the point of her message -was- "freedom". An excellent point (one that the media seems to want us (rkba types) not to be associated with) that she made well in defense of our freedom to effect the political process IMHO. Boyd On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > We are not a democracy. > > We are a republic. > > See the Guarantee Clause. > > /s/ Paul Mitchell > > > > > At 06:58 PM 1/20/97 PST, you wrote: > >On Jan 20, NRA Alerts wrote: > > > >[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > > > > American Association of Political Consultants BK snipped ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: The Freeman of Montana Date: 17 Jan 1997 09:36:23 -0500 Paul, Thank you for clarifying. ciao, jcurtis >At 03:20 PM 1/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >> >> Paul, what are you saying here? Are you being sarcastic, or do >> you believe that you are being investigated for ties to the >> Freemen of Montana? > >I am under active surveillance, and >one of their "agents" penetrated my >living room, and then threatened >my life 12 times. I am not being >sarcastic. This really happened. >This guy was staying as a guest in >my house, because he needed "shelter." > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Re: Russia & Right To Carry Date: 21 Jan 1997 09:26:11 -0600 (CST) On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, larry ball wrote: > > The closing line by the BBC reporter in Moscow was that Boris seems to > be trying to turn Russia into the old west of America. And the Old west of America was not such a bad place as TV movies and shows would have one think. We did not have problems with repeat child molesters, or robbers and thiefs. They got swift justice and were hung or shot in a shoot out if they refused to give up. Our kids could go fishing and hunting and run wild with no fear to the parents other than the times when Indians were on raids. The only reason gun laws were first passed was to restrict the newly freed black slaves from defending themselves from the KKK. I have heard that the murder rate in the "Great Depression" was far less than it is now and 30% of the people were out of work. Thank God in Texas you still can legally shoot someone after sundown to defend your property from theft. Paul Watson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Ferris Subject: Posting The Text Of Bill Clinton's In-Og "Speech" Date: 21 Jan 1997 10:19:06 -0500 (EST) Could someone please find and post Bill The Era Of Da Big Fed Guv Is Over Clinton's In-Og Speech? I was nauseated as I listened to his overt lies, but I was not surprised. Let's term his "Bridge to the 21st Century" the "Bridge Over The (Lip) Quiver Lie" ... he is a piece of work, he who chases "pieces" (his term, not mine) and calls it work. There used to be a time when the Office of The President commanded respect and was occuped by men of honor. No longer. Hang on tight and watch your six for the next four years. Protecting freedom is going to be an all out dog fight. I am planning to be either a Pit Bull or a Rottweiler. Once I grab an issue, I am not going to let go. Won't you join me? Regards, Christopher C. Ferris Litchfield NH ferriscc@mainstream.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: The Freeman of Montana Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:37:22 -0800 Correction: "college-level English" not "collect-level English". Correction is made below. Paul Mitchell speculates infra: At 12:29 AM 1/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >Two questions came to mind as I read this: > >> > >From the "Dallas Morning News" Online: >> > >> > Authorities study links in fraud cases >> > By Thomas G. Watts / The Dallas Morning News >> > 01/11/97 >> > > > > >> > >> > The Dallas Morning News identified 65 criminal cases >> > or investigations involving 151 people with Freemen ties >> > in those 23 states through government records, reports by >> > monitoring agencies, and other sources. > >Question 1: > >What "monitoring agencies" are involved in these investigations? I can only speculate here. Do you want me to? (see below) > >Question 2: > >What are people with "Freemen ties"? People who attended the seminars; people who used the warrants; people who openly "sympathize"; people who were arrested in Jordan; people who are related to those arrested; people who live in the bunk house; people who threatened Paul Mitchell; people who conspired to stiff Paul Mitchell; people who tampered with Paul Mitchell's front brakes; people who cleaned out Paul Mitchell's legal office in Colton; people who chauffered Paul Mitchell at 95 mph, barely avoiding a broadside in the high desert; people who removed $50K from Broderick's private locker; people who investigated Broderick's Orange County lien; people who were requested to investigate extortion by Broderick's associates (and other crimes); people who tried to enter Paul Mitchell's hotel room, while he was in the room, on the telephone; people who tailed Paul Mitchell all around the Essex Hotel in Palmdale/Lancaster; people who filmed Paul Mitchell's private lecture at the Essex Hotel, and stole the videotape; people who were convicted as Broderick's co-defendants; people who are related to those co-defendants; people who paid Elizabeth Broderick to attend Leroy's seminars; people who witnessed Paul Mitchell attempt to assist Broderick at her "arraignment"; people who tried to film Paul Mitchell cross Spring Street after the arraignment; people who tried to interview Paul Mitchell as he crossed Spring Street after the arraignment; people who smacked Paul Mitchell's companion in the head with a video camera in the middle of Spring Street; People who told Paul Mitchell that he would be getting paid "soon"; and so on, and so on. There are probably more. This is a media "spin" term, if you know what I mean. /s/ Paul Mitchell > > > >> > >> > Freemen leader LeRoy M. Schweitzer, who taught the >> > classes, believed that the money orders he could spin out >> > of a home computer and laser printer were as legitimate >> > as those purchased at a bank. He said the banking system >> > was illegal and not supported by real money since the >> > nation went off the gold standard in 1933. He also >> > asserted that the Federal Reserve system was >> > unconstitutional. >> > >> > That philosophy is shared by many in the anti-government >> > or Patriot movement - particularly tax protesters. >> > > >The excerpt above contains the answer to question 2: > >What are people with "Freemen ties"? > >People with "Freemen ties" are people who assert that >the Federal Reserve system is unconstitutional. Not necessarily. People with "Freemen ties" could also encompass prosecutor Nora Manella, who convicted Elizabeth Broderick in Los Angeles, but officials in DOJ have now confirmed, in writing, that Nora Manella has no credentials, either in the federal building in Los Angeles, or anywhere in Washington, D.C. Plot thickens here. > >Then people with "Freemen ties" must include me. If you are a "Free Man," then you must be a "Freeman", and then you are surely one of the several "Freemen", (pursuant to Title 1, U.S.C.) which also embraces "Free Women", not to be confused with ladies of ill repute (or does it?) /s/ Paul Mitchell p.s. Leroy, are you listening to this? > > > >> > >> > Joe Roy, the head of the Southern Poverty Law Center's >> > Klanwatch unit that monitors extremist groups, said >> > prosecutors are right to target the Freemen disciples. >> > >> > "The big thing is that a lot of these guys are potentially >> > dangerous," Mr. Roy said. "They are at war with the >> > United States, and the government is starting to take them >> > seriously." >> > >> > The associate director of the Anti-Defamation League's >> > Washington office, Michael Lieberman, urged the Justice >> > Department to establish a task force to concentrate on >> > Freemen activities - similar to one set up in the 1980s to >> > target the then-growing skinhead movement. >> > > >The excerpt above contains the answer to question 1: > >What "monitoring agencies" are involved in these investigations? > >The Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League. > >----------------------- Bottom Line ----------------------- > >"There is a Freemen tentacle throughout the country." >--Michael Lieberman > Director, Anti-Defamation League, Washington office > >There is a "tentacle throughout the country" alright, >but it's not "a Freemen tentacle." It's a land conversion racket being orchestrated most probably out of the federal building in downtown Los Angeles, with the help of many federal employees working in, or with, that locale. Most of the people who attended Elizabeth Broderick's seminars were Vietnamese and Hispanics, who would not understand federal law even if it were translated into their native languages. (Educated people have enough trouble understanding it in native English.) They certainly did not understand my lectures, delivered in college-level English. The FBI stole my best lecture, after they absconded with the videotape. Just "follow the paper" (a la Deep Throat): 1. warrant tendered to lender 2. lender clears it thru FRB 3. FRB routes it to FBI 4. FBI routes it to Nora Manella 5. Manella "coordinates" sting with other DOJ offices across the nation 6. real properties are foreclosed; borrowers are evicted and/or convicted 7. properties are traded inside, at 25 cents on the dollar (one in Tucson went for $60K v. $240K market) 8. final "owner" sells property at market, making 300% return on "investment" (or more) 9. many federal agents are reaping windfalls through this racket 10. FBI may not have a valid charter; Louis Freeh is reported to be looking for an "out" (read "graceful exit") I have applied for Intervention of Right, pursuant to FRCP Rule 24(a), in Broderick's civil case. Manella responded with three (3) other AUSA's listed under her name. Reinforcements? You bet; she needs them, desperately, as this thing unravels rather quickly now. /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Re: Russia & Right To Carry Date: 21 Jan 1997 15:40:23 -0800 Larry, >>>>>>> [...] Well, the English government and Bill Clinton are trying to turn western civilization into a culture of pussys and slaves. <<<<<<< Now your speaking my language! Give'em hell, Larry! Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Re: Posting The Text Of Bill Clinton's In-Og "Speech" Date: 21 Jan 1997 15:55:32 -0800 Chris, >>>>>>> [...] I am planning to be either a Pit Bull or a Rottweiler. Once I grab an issue, I am not going to let go. Won't you join me? <<<<<<< Actually I was planning on being a turd, assault type. No one likes to even think about touching one, much less getting near it - cus of the stink and all, ya know? Kinda recalls a scene right out of "Kelly's Heros", where two of the guys are near an outhouse when it gets 'taken out' by one of the Tiger Tanks. Later, when 'things' calm down, they are avoided by the rest of the crew - for all of the obvious reasons. I got myself a Springfield Armory M1A today - finally, with a stainless barrel. I'm in love with my gun. ;-) Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: * The Idaho Observer Webpage * Date: 21 Jan 1997 17:32:14 -0800 Hi folks - Just to let you know: OUR WEBPAGE IS FINALLY UP & RUNNING! Go pay us a visit and let us know what you think at http://www.teleport.com/~observer Yeehaw!!! - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: The Freemen of Montana Date: 21 Jan 1997 09:52:47 -0700 (MST) jcurtis, You are very welcome. /s/ Paul Mitchell At 09:36 AM 1/17/97 -0500, you wrote: > > Paul, > > Thank you for clarifying. > > ciao, > > jcurtis > >>At 03:20 PM 1/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >>> >>> Paul, what are you saying here? Are you being sarcastic, or do >>> you believe that you are being investigated for ties to the >>> Freemen of Montana? >> >>I am under active surveillance, and >>one of their "agents" penetrated my >>living room, and then threatened >>my life 12 times. I am not being >>sarcastic. This really happened. >>This guy was staying as a guest in >>my house, because he needed "shelter." >> > > =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: Park Service uses BATF style Waco raid tactics on hunters Date: 21 Jan 1997 10:15:53 -0500 A commando style raid for misdemeanor fish and game violations? Not one of the "suspects" armed? I read the article in a local paper on the teacher (Constitution, among other subjects) fired after protesting unConstitutional drug searches at a high school. Drug sniffing dogs, men in military uniform with rifles turning out a whole school and pat searching students and opening lockers. (someone posted it here). The lesson here is that the American people (and, of course, media) will roll over for *any police action*. They murdered an unarmed mother at Ruby Ridge, crushed mothers and children with a tank at Waco, and they can do the same anywhere just by trotting out the appropriate shibolith, beit drugs, fish-and-game misdemeanors, or jaywalking. Just keep clear in your mind what these tyrants think is correct and legal behavior and what the public reaction is. jcurtis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: the "govenment agent" lie Date: 21 Jan 1997 10:02:58 -0700 (MST) Dear Libertarians, I have a general complaint about all the members of this list who have perpetrated the lie that I am a government informant, government agent, agent provocateur, or similar false accusation. I know you have no evidence to support such a false accusation, and I know this as a matter of fact. Where do I get redress for the real damages which I have sustained because of these lies? The lies have interferred with my ability to attract clients, so there may be a real serious, perhaps criminal, motive behind these lies. Is that what you intended? The matter of motive would be for a jury to decide, in the final analysis. If you want to throw me off this list without addressing these issues, I think that action will say a lot of things about your club, things you might not want others to know. And I think it will only damage your credibility, and only hurt you in the long run, if not also the short run. The Libertarian share of the voting population is already of no consequence. /s/ Paul Mitchell copy: The Internet At 08:58 AM 1/21/97 -0700, you wrote: >> It appears this list will have to be changed so that only members can post >> to it. I hope this doesn't require yet another 2-week balloting process. > >Mark, > I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying here. Are you >implying that we should amend the club constitution so that only members of the >Libertarian Students Club at the University of Arizona may post to the list? >If you are, then I must say that all constitutional amendments do require 2 >weeks. Currently our constitution says that anyone may post to the list but >the last amendment we passed allows LSUA club members to revoke or suspend the >posting priviledges of a person with a 2/3 vote. I will post the results of >the proposal to revoke PAM's posting privs today at 4pm. > >-- >Jackie Casey >casey@life.arizona.edu > > =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: The Freeman of Montana Date: 21 Jan 1997 10:11:28 -0700 (MST) This took 5 full days to broadcast. What is going on? /s/ Paul Mitchell At 04:37 PM 1/16/97 -0800, you wrote: >Correction: "college-level English" >not "collect-level English". > >Correction is made below. > >Paul Mitchell speculates infra: > > >At 12:29 AM 1/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >>Two questions came to mind as I read this: >> >>> > >From the "Dallas Morning News" Online: >>> > >>> > Authorities study links in fraud cases >>> > By Thomas G. Watts / The Dallas Morning News >>> > 01/11/97 >>> > >> >> >> >>> > >>> > The Dallas Morning News identified 65 criminal cases >>> > or investigations involving 151 people with Freemen ties >>> > in those 23 states through government records, reports by >>> > monitoring agencies, and other sources. >> >>Question 1: >> >>What "monitoring agencies" are involved in these investigations? > >I can only speculate here. >Do you want me to? >(see below) > > >> >>Question 2: >> >>What are people with "Freemen ties"? > >People who attended the seminars; >people who used the warrants; >people who openly "sympathize"; >people who were arrested in Jordan; >people who are related to those arrested; >people who live in the bunk house; >people who threatened Paul Mitchell; >people who conspired to stiff Paul Mitchell; >people who tampered with Paul Mitchell's front brakes; >people who cleaned out Paul Mitchell's legal office in Colton; >people who chauffered Paul Mitchell at 95 mph, > barely avoiding a broadside in the high desert; >people who removed $50K from Broderick's private locker; >people who investigated Broderick's Orange County lien; >people who were requested to investigate extortion by > Broderick's associates (and other crimes); >people who tried to enter Paul Mitchell's hotel room, > while he was in the room, on the telephone; >people who tailed Paul Mitchell all around the Essex Hotel > in Palmdale/Lancaster; >people who filmed Paul Mitchell's private lecture at the > Essex Hotel, and stole the videotape; >people who were convicted as Broderick's co-defendants; >people who are related to those co-defendants; >people who paid Elizabeth Broderick to attend Leroy's > seminars; >people who witnessed Paul Mitchell attempt to assist > Broderick at her "arraignment"; >people who tried to film Paul Mitchell cross Spring Street > after the arraignment; >people who tried to interview Paul Mitchell as he crossed > Spring Street after the arraignment; >people who smacked Paul Mitchell's companion in the head > with a video camera in the middle of Spring Street; >People who told Paul Mitchell that he would be getting paid "soon"; > >and so on, and so on. > >There are probably more. This is a >media "spin" term, if you know what >I mean. > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > > >> >> >> >>> > >>> > Freemen leader LeRoy M. Schweitzer, who taught the >>> > classes, believed that the money orders he could spin out >>> > of a home computer and laser printer were as legitimate >>> > as those purchased at a bank. He said the banking system >>> > was illegal and not supported by real money since the >>> > nation went off the gold standard in 1933. He also >>> > asserted that the Federal Reserve system was >>> > unconstitutional. >>> > >>> > That philosophy is shared by many in the anti-government >>> > or Patriot movement - particularly tax protesters. >>> > >> >>The excerpt above contains the answer to question 2: >> >>What are people with "Freemen ties"? >> >>People with "Freemen ties" are people who assert that >>the Federal Reserve system is unconstitutional. > >Not necessarily. People with "Freemen ties" >could also encompass prosecutor Nora Manella, >who convicted Elizabeth Broderick in Los Angeles, >but officials in DOJ have now confirmed, in writing, >that Nora Manella has no credentials, either in >the federal building in Los Angeles, or anywhere >in Washington, D.C. Plot thickens here. > > >> >>Then people with "Freemen ties" must include me. > >If you are a "Free Man," >then you must be a "Freeman", >and then you are surely >one of the several "Freemen", >(pursuant to Title 1, U.S.C.) >which also embraces "Free Women", >not to be confused with ladies >of ill repute (or does it?) > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > >p.s. Leroy, are you listening to this? > > >> >> >> >>> > >>> > Joe Roy, the head of the Southern Poverty Law Center's >>> > Klanwatch unit that monitors extremist groups, said >>> > prosecutors are right to target the Freemen disciples. >>> > >>> > "The big thing is that a lot of these guys are potentially >>> > dangerous," Mr. Roy said. "They are at war with the >>> > United States, and the government is starting to take them >>> > seriously." >>> > >>> > The associate director of the Anti-Defamation League's >>> > Washington office, Michael Lieberman, urged the Justice >>> > Department to establish a task force to concentrate on >>> > Freemen activities - similar to one set up in the 1980s to >>> > target the then-growing skinhead movement. >>> > >> >>The excerpt above contains the answer to question 1: >> >>What "monitoring agencies" are involved in these investigations? >> >>The Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League. >> >>----------------------- Bottom Line ----------------------- >> >>"There is a Freemen tentacle throughout the country." >>--Michael Lieberman >> Director, Anti-Defamation League, Washington office >> >>There is a "tentacle throughout the country" alright, >>but it's not "a Freemen tentacle." > > >It's a land conversion racket >being orchestrated most probably >out of the federal building in >downtown Los Angeles, with the >help of many federal employees >working in, or with, that locale. > >Most of the people who attended >Elizabeth Broderick's seminars >were Vietnamese and Hispanics, >who would not understand federal >law even if it were translated >into their native languages. >(Educated people have enough trouble >understanding it in native English.) >They certainly did not understand >my lectures, delivered in college-level >English. > >The FBI stole my best lecture, >after they absconded with the >videotape. Just "follow the paper" >(a la Deep Throat): > >1. warrant tendered to lender >2. lender clears it thru FRB >3. FRB routes it to FBI >4. FBI routes it to Nora Manella >5. Manella "coordinates" sting > with other DOJ offices across > the nation >6. real properties are foreclosed; > borrowers are evicted and/or convicted >7. properties are traded inside, > at 25 cents on the dollar > (one in Tucson went for $60K v. $240K market) >8. final "owner" sells property > at market, making 300% return > on "investment" (or more) >9. many federal agents are reaping > windfalls through this racket >10. FBI may not have a valid charter; > Louis Freeh is reported to be looking > for an "out" (read "graceful exit") > >I have applied for Intervention of Right, >pursuant to FRCP Rule 24(a), in Broderick's >civil case. Manella responded with three (3) >other AUSA's listed under her name. > >Reinforcements? > >You bet; she needs them, desperately, >as this thing unravels rather quickly >now. > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > > >==================================================================== >[Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] >[65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] >Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com >ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] >We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. >Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan >==================================================================== > > =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Sylvester Subject: Be Afraid, Be Really afraid Date: 22 Jan 1997 00:43:25 -0600 From http://www2.whitehouse.gov/WH/html/library-plain.html ---- You can also browse some historic national documents: =95The Declaration of Independence =95The Constitution of the United States of America =95The North American Free Trade Agreement=20 =95The General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade=20 --- The first two are national treasure, fairly short, and easily understood by the functionally literate..the others are...otherwise. The juxtapostion just caught my eye, and turned my stomach, and I just *had* to share it. The Second Amendment is the RESET button=20 of the United States Constitution. =20 ---Doug McKay" =20 Joe Sylvester Don't Tread On Me ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Sylvester Subject: Re: Posting The Text Of Bill Clinton's In-Og "Speech" (LONG) Date: 22 Jan 1997 01:00:18 -0600 At 10:19 AM 1/21/97 -0500, you wrote: >Could someone please find and post Bill The Era Of Da Big Fed Guv Is Over >Clinton's In-Og Speech? I was nauseated as I listened to his overt lies, >but I was not surprised. Let's term his "Bridge to the 21st Century" the >"Bridge Over The (Lip) Quiver Lie" ... he is a piece of work, he who >chases "pieces" (his term, not mine) and calls it work. There used to be >a time when the Office of The President commanded respect and was occuped >by men of honor. No longer. Hang on tight and watch your six for the next >four years. Protecting freedom is going to be an all out dog fight. I am >planning to be either a Pit Bull or a Rottweiler. Once I grab an issue, I >am not going to let go. Won't you join me? > >Regards, Here it is, in all it's (in)glory. from http://library.whitehouse.gov The White House Virtual Library White House Press Release Inaugural Address Of President William J. Clinton The White House Office of the Press Secretary ______________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release January 20, 1997 Inaugural Address Of President William J. Clinton U.S. Capitol 12:05 P.M. Est The President: My fellow citizens: At this last presidential inauguration of the 20th century, let us lift our eyes toward the challenges that await us in the next century. It is our great good fortune that time and chance have put us not only at the edge of a new century, in a new millennium, but on the edge of a bright new prospect in human affairs -- a moment that will define our course, and our character, for decades to come. We must keep our old democracy forever young. Guided by the ancient vision of a promised land, let us set our sights upon a land of new promise. The promise of America was born in the 18th century out of the bold conviction that we are all created equal. It was extended and preserved in the 19th century, when our nation spread across the continent, saved the union, and abolished the awful scourge of slavery. Then, in turmoil and triumph, that promise exploded onto the world stage to make this the American Century. And what a century it has been. America became the world's mightiest industrial power; saved the world from tyranny in two world wars and a long cold war; and time and again, reached out across the globe to millions who, like us, longed for the blessings of liberty. Along the way, Americans produced a great middle class and security in old age; built unrivaled centers of learning and opened public schools to all; split the atom and explored the heavens; invented the computer and the microchip; and deepened the wellspring of justice by making a revolution in civil rights for African Americans and all minorities, and extending the circle of citizenship, opportunity and dignity to women. Now, for the third time, a new century is upon us, and another time to choose. We began the 19th century with a choice, to spread our nation from coast to coast. We began the 20th century with a choice, to harness the Industrial Revolution to our values of free enterprise, conservation, and human decency. Those choices made all the difference. At the dawn of the 21st century a free people must now choose to shape the forces of the Information Age and the global society, to unleash the limitless potential of all our people, and, yes, to form a more perfect union. When last we gathered, our march to this new future seemed less certain than it does today. We vowed then to set a clear course to renew our nation. In these four years, we have been touched by tragedy, exhilarated by challenge, strengthened by achievement. America stands alone as the world's indispensable nation. Once again, our economy is the strongest on Earth. Once again, we are building stronger families, thriving communities, better educational opportunities, a cleaner environment. Problems that once seemed destined to deepen now bend to our efforts: our streets are safer and record numbers of our fellow citizens have moved from welfare to work. And once again, we have resolved for our time a great debate over the role of government. Today we can declare: Government is not the problem, and government is not the solution. We -- the American people -- we are the solution. (Applause.) Our founders understood that well and gave us a democracy strong enough to endure for centuries, flexible enough to face our common challenges and advance our common dreams in each new day. As times change, so government must change. We need a new government for a new century -- humble enough not to try to solve all our problems for us, but strong enough to give us the tools to solve our problems for ourselves; a government that is smaller, lives within its means, and does more with less. Yet where it can stand up for our values and interests in the world, and where it can give Americans the power to make a real difference in their everyday lives, government should do more, not less. The preeminent mission of our new government is to give all Americans an opportunity -- not a guarantee, but a real opportunity -- to build better lives. (Applause.) Beyond that, my fellow citizens, the future is up to us. Our founders taught us that the preservation of our liberty and our union depends upon responsible citizenship. And we need a new sense of responsibility for a new century. There is work to do, work that government alone cannot do: teaching children to read; hiring people off welfare rolls; coming out from behind locked doors and shuttered windows to help reclaim our streets from drugs and gangs and crime; taking time out of our own lives to serve others. Each and every one of us, in our own way, must assume personal responsibility -- not only for ourselves and our families, but for our neighbors and our nation. (Applause.) Our greatest responsibility is to embrace a new spirit of community for a new century. For any one of us to succeed, we must succeed as one America. The challenge of our past remains the challenge of our future -- will we be one nation, one people, with one common destiny, or not? Will we all come together, or come apart? The divide of race has been America's constant curse. And each new wave of immigrants gives new targets to old prejudices. Prejudice and contempt, cloaked in the pretense of religious or political conviction are no different. (Applause.) These forces have nearly destroyed our nation in the past. They plague us still. They fuel the fanaticism of terror. And they torment the lives of millions in fractured nations all around the world. These obsessions cripple both those who hate and, of course, those who are hated, robbing both of what they might become. We cannot, we will not, succumb to the dark impulses that lurk in the far regions of the soul everywhere. We shall overcome them. (Applause.) And we shall replace them with the generous spirit of a people who feel at home with one another. Our rich texture of racial, religious and political diversity will be a Godsend in the 21st century. Great rewards will come to those who can live together, learn together, work together, forge new ties that bind together. As this new era approaches we can already see its broad outlines. Ten years ago, the Internet was the mystical province of physicists; today, it is a commonplace encyclopedia for millions of schoolchildren. Scientists now are decoding the blueprint of human life. Cures for our most feared illnesses seem close at hand. The world is no longer divided into two hostile camps. Instead, now we are building bonds with nations that once were our adversaries. Growing connections of commerce and culture give us a chance to lift the fortunes and spirits of people the world over. And for the very first time in all of history, more people on this planet live under democracy than dictatorship. (Applause.) My fellow Americans, as we look back at this remarkable century, we may ask, can we hope not just to follow, but even to surpass the achievements of the 20th century in America and to avoid the awful bloodshed that stained its legacy? To that question, every American here and every American in our land today must answer a resounding "Yes." (Applause.) This is the heart of our task. With a new vision of government, a new sense of responsibility, a new spirit of community, we will sustain America's journey. The promise we sought in a new land we will find again in a land of new promise. (Applause.) In this new land, education will be every citizen's most prized possession. Our schools will have the highest standards in the world, igniting the spark of possibility in the eyes of every girl and every boy. And the doors of higher education will be open to all. The knowledge and power of the Information Age will be within reach not just of the few, but of every classroom, every library, every child. Parents and children will have time not only to work, but to read and play together. And the plans they make at their kitchen table will be those of a better home, a better job, the certain chance to go to college, Our streets will echo again with the laughter of our children, because no one will try to shoot them or sell them drugs anymore. Everyone who can work, will work, with today's permanent under class part of tomorrow's growing middle class. New miracles of medicine at last will reach not only those who can claim care now, but the children and hardworking families too long denied. We will stand mighty for peace and freedom, and maintain a strong defense against terror and destruction. Our children will sleep free from the threat of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. Ports and airports, farms and factories will thrive with trade and innovation and ideas. And the world's greatest democracy will lead a whole world of democracies. Our land of new promise will be a nation that meets its obligations -- a nation that balances its budget, but never loses the balance of its values. (Applause.) A nation where our grandparents have secure retirement and health care, and their grandchildren know we have made the reforms necessary to sustain those benefits for their time. (Applause.) A nation that fortifies the world's most productive economy even as it protects the great natural bounty of our water, air, and majestic land. And in this land of new promise, we will have reformed our politics so that the voice of the people will always speak louder than the din of narrow interests -- regaining the participation and deserving the trust of all Americans. (Applause.) Fellow citizens, let us build that America, a nation ever moving forward toward realizing the full potential of all its citizens. Prosperity and power -- yes, they are important, and we must maintain them. But let us never forget: The greatest progress we have made, and the greatest progress we have yet to make, is in the human heart. In the end, all the world's wealth and a thousand armies are no match for the strength and decency of the human spirit. (Applause.) Thirty-four years ago, the man whose life we celebrate today spoke to us down there, at the other end of this Mall, in words that moved the conscience of a nation. Like a prophet of old, he told of his dream that one day America would rise up and treat all its citizens as equals before the law and in the heart. Martin Luther King's dream was the American Dream. His quest is our quest: the ceaseless striving to live out our true creed. Our history has been built on such dreams and labors. And by our dreams and labors we will redeem the promise of America in the 21st century. To that effort I pledge all my strength and every power of my office. I ask the members of Congress here to join in that pledge. The American people returned to office a President of one party and a Congress of another. Surely, they did not do this to advance the politics of petty bickering and extreme partisanship they plainly deplore. (Applause.) No, they call on us instead to be repairers of the breach, and to move on with America's mission. America demands and deserves big things from us -- and nothing big ever came from being small. (Applause.) Let us remember the timeless wisdom of Cardinal Bernardin, when facing the end of his own life. He said: "It is wrong to waste the precious gift of time, on acrimony and division." Fellow citizens, we must not waste the precious gift of this time. For all of us are on that same journey of our lives, and our journey, too, will come to an end. But the journey of our America must go on. And so, my fellow Americans, we must be strong, for there is much to dare. The demands of our time are great and they are different. Let us meet them with faith and courage, with patience and a grateful and happy heart. Let us shape the hope of this day into the noblest chapter in our history. Yes, let us build our bridge. (Applause.) A bridge wide enough and strong enough for every American to cross over to a blessed land of new promise. May those generations whose faces we cannot yet see, whose names we may never know, say of us here that we led our beloved land into a new century with the American Dream alive for all her children; with the American promise of a more perfect union a reality for all her people; with America's bright flame of freedom spreading throughout all the world. From the height of this place and the summit of this century, let us go forth. May God strengthen our hands for the good work ahead -- and always, always bless our America. (Applause.) End 12:30 P.M. Est The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution. ---Doug McKay" Joe Sylvester Don't Tread On Me ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lball@unlinfo.unl.edu (larry ball) Subject: Re: Posting The Text Of Bill Clinton's In-Og "Speech" (LONG) Date: 22 Jan 1997 06:49:09 -0600 (CST) When you remember our Liar/Coward In Chief's In Og address and glean from it such things as the "era of big guv" is over, remember, he also said that "the American people are expecting BEEEG things from us." Now does that sound like small guv? Also, he made reference to managing (my words) the "global communitie." Does that sound like small guv? Hmmmm. Larry Ball lball@unlinfo.unl.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: PMRS update Date: 22 Jan 1997 06:33:40 -0700 (MST) Paul Mitchell answers an excellent question infra (go to end of M. Zolton's letter): >On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > >> [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] >> >> Department of the Treasury >> Internal Revenue Service >> Washington, D.C. 20224 >> >> >> Mr. Paul A. Mitchell Person to Contact: >> 2509 North Campbell - #1776 M. Zolton >> Tucson, AZ 85719 Telephone Number: >> (202) 622-6250 >> Refer Reply to: >> 96-1911 >> Date: DEC 13 1996 >> >> Dear Mr. Mitchell: >> >> This is in regard to your Freedom of Information Act request >> dated July 26, 1996, and your follow-up letter dated September >> 19, 1996, in which you asked for any and all financial records >> associated with the Performance Management and Recognition System >> (PMRS). >> >> In your original FOIA request, you indicated that you first >> wanted to be advised of the estimated cost involved in answering >> your request, if the cost should exceed $25. We have contacted >> the appropriate function that has custody of the records subject >> to your request, and have been advised that the estimated cost is >> $85. However, under the FOIA, the first 2 hours of search time >> are free for noncommercial requests. Therefore, in the case >> of a noncommercial use request, the cost would be $51. >> >> Since these amounts exceed the 25-dollar threshold, we will >> need your affirmation to pay the appropriate cost before we can >> continue processing your request. When you respond, make >> reference to the "reply to" number at the top of this letter and >> direct your response to the contact person shown above. >> Meanwhile, we will wait 30 days for your response before closing >> our file on this matter. Your cooperation in this matter is >> appreciated. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> /s/ Mark L. Zolton >> >> Tax Law Specialist >> Freedom of Information >> >> >> # # # >> >> ==================================================================== >> [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] >> [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] >> Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com >> ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] >> We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. >> Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan >> ==================================================================== >> > >Mr Mitchell, how do you figure that the above post is a topic of general >interest to libertarians in the Pacific Northwest? > >-- Bruce Dear Bruce, The evidence in our possession indicates that the PMRS program has been used to pay U.S. Attorneys and the President large sums upon obtaining federal grand jury indictments against the President's enemies, e.g. "illegal tax protestors." The program was abolished in 1993, and yet the practice is evidently still widespread (read "Oregon"). Moreover, the evidence emerging now is that the Department of Justice is deeply implicated in a nationwide land conversion racket, probably using the PROMIS software stolen from the Inslaw Corporation. The commercial paper issued by Elizabeth Broderick and Leroy Schweitzer is now being carefully tracked through the banking system, and used to sting a large number of people who were brave enough to try one or more of these instruments to pay taxes, mortgages, car loans, etc. In the letter above, Zolton admits that the records are now available for disclosure; but, what you have missed (I think) is a copy of his earlier letter, in which he states that there were not always records for these PMRS awards, because many of them were paid in CASH! Specifically, the U.S. Attorneys are getting $25,000 per indictment, and the President is getting $35,000 per indictment. Thus, the existence of the PMRS program is grounds, if nothing else, for quashing all federal grand jury indictments, in Alabama, Alaska, Arizona ... Oregon ... Wyoming, until such time as the American People can sort out all the corruption which has destroyed the validity of grand jury actions. This is one of the main reasons why we have attacked the federal Jury Selection and Service Act for being unconstitutional; one collateral effect of such an attack is a direct wedge into the discovery we need to do, as a Nation, into the widespread corruption in jury selection and manipulation, both state and federal. Read 28 U.S.C. 1861 et seq. for the procedural rules we are now invoking. In my opinion, Zolton should be subpoened by Special Prosecutor Kenneth Starr, because the practice of paying cash awards, without records, suggests widespread federal income tax evasion by all the federal employees who received such cash awards. For further clarification of this point, read "The Kick-Back Racket" in the Supreme Law Library at URL: http://www.supremelaw.com The original of Zolton's earlier letter has been stolen from me, by the Montana Freemen. Fortunately, I kept a transcription on a computer disk which I still have in my possession. Does this answer your question? /s/ Paul Mitchell > > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > Bruce Alexander Knight and/or Astarte' T. Rainbow > Libertarian for Congress Campaign Manager > Oregon District 3 Knight for Congress > > PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS -- VOTE FOR KNIGHT > > email: baknight@teleport.com phone: (503)-761-7802 > > > > > =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: IRC just died Date: 22 Jan 1997 09:41:43 -0700 (MST) Everyone, The Internal Revenue Code is now "officially" dead! Let us celebrate, shall we? Let the word go out, all across this land, that the extortion is over, and we can now begin again to rebuild this great land, for ourselves, for our children, and for theirs. Gloria Halleluia! The Lord has delivered us. He has heard our prayers, and He has answered them, as He said He always would. Praise to the Most High, once again. Amen. /s/ Paul Mitchell (still weeping for joy) copy: everyone whose heart is still beating. =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: "United States" defined by USDC, Virgin Islands Date: 22 Jan 1997 09:31:33 -0700 (MST) YEEEEEEEHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! I told y'all in 1992!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This one is an event to celebrate. The income tax is now officially dead, inside the several States of the Union. /s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, Triumphant at Last At 10:47 AM 1/22/97 -0500, you wrote: >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:55:28 -0800 >Subject: FYI > >> >> The United States District Court for the Virgin Islands decided an >> important case in 1996. Cited as Burnett v. Commissioner, KTC 1996-292 >> (D.V.I. 1996), the court stated that Subtitle A taxes apply only to >> Washington, D. C. and the Territories. Referring to Code Section 7701 (a) >> (definitions) (9), the court pointed out that the term "United States" >> includes only the above. 7701 (a) reads "(a) When used in this title, where >> not otherwise distinctly expressed or >> manifestly incompatible with the intent thereof--" and section (a) (9) >> reads "(9) UNITED STATES >> The term "United States" when used in a geographical sense includes >> only the States and the District of Columbia." >> No other definition of "United States" is offered in Subtitle A. Anyone >> interested in using this landmark decision as an argument for filing a >> "zero" tax return should contact me. >> >> Kleinrock's >> TAX LIBRARY >> >> CITE AS: Burnett v. Commissioner, KTC 1996-292 (D.V.I. 1996) >> >> <> >> >> UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT >> DISTRICT OF THE VIRGIN ISLANDS >> >> ROBERT RAY, BURNETT and GLEEANNA LYNN BURNETT, PETITIONERS v. >> COMMISSIONER, INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE, Respondent. >> >> Docket: 96-146 Filed July 12, 1996 >> >> PETITION FOR REDETERMINATION >> >> Petitioners Robert Ray, Burnett and Gleeanna Lynn Burnett petition the >> Court for a redetermination of tax liability pursuant to Local Rule 71A.1 >> of Local Rules of Civil Procedure of the District Court of the Virgin >> Islands based upon the following: >> >> JURISDICTION >> >> 1. Jurisdiction is proper because: >> >> a) The proposed assessment against Robert Ray, Burnett and Gleeanna >> Lynn Burnett is identified as under the jurisdiction of the Virgin >> Islands, pursuant to Transaction Code [TC] 150 entered by the Internal >> Revenue Service into the Petitioner's records for years 1990, 1991, 1992, >> 1993 and 1994 [see Exhibit A and B attached]. >> >> b) The U.S. Tax Court does not have jurisdiction to hear tax cases >> arising under the income tax laws applicable to the Virgin Islands [see p. >> 2 "Tax Structure of the U.S. Virgin Islands", published by the Honorable >> Roy Lester Schneider, Governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands], see Exhibit C >> and therefore, the redetermination must be heard in this Court. >> >> c) The proposed assessment [see Exhibits K and L] against Robert Ray, >> Burnett and Gleeanna Lynn Burnett are for Title 26, USC, "Subtitle A >> Income Tax", and such tax is not applicable to the several states, but >> only to the District of Columbia, and territories under the jurisdiction >> of the same. This'fact is supported by 26 USC 7701(a)(9) and (10) wherein >> the term "United States" does not include the "50 states" as it does in >> the definition of "United States" in other sections of the Code [e.g.; >> sections 4612(a)(4)(A) and 6103(b)(5). The Virgin Islands is under the >> jurisdiction of the District of Columbia, and therefore, Subtitle A taxes >> are applicable to the Virgin Islands, and therefore, a redetermination of >> such tax must be heard in a Virgin Islands District Court. >> >> d) The only delegation orders in existence to grant authority to the >> IRS Commissioner to carry out his duties are TDO 150-42 and 150-01, see >> Exhibits D and E. Delegation Order 150-01 identifies districts in >> paragraphs 1-4, and then identifies that area over which the Commissioner >> has authority to ENFORCE the tax code in paragraph 5 -- which specifically >> identifies authority in U.S. territories and possessions -- not the 50 >> states. Such delegation authority is imperative to the Commissioner, 26 >> USC 7701(a)(12), and in its absence, the Commissioner does not have >> authority to enforce the Code. The evidence shows that the Commissioner of >> internal Revenue only has authority to enforce the Code in territories of >> Washington, D.C., and the Virgin Islands is such a territory, therefore, >> this Court is the only available forum in which to bring this petition. >> >> e) While it is admitted that Petitioners are not "residents" of the >> Virgin Islands, they bring this action to the District Court of the Virgin >> Islands, pursuant to rule 71A.1, and because of the fact that there is no >> other remedy at law or equity in which to petition. The proposed tax >> assessment pertains only to the "territories" of the "United States" >> [defined as "Washington, D.C." for purposes of Subtitle A], then only a >> court of the "territories of the United States" can hear this matter. >> >> f) The jurisdiction of the Virgin Islands District Court is expressly >> limited to cases involving "the income tax laws applicable to the Virgin >> Islands," [48 USC section 1612(a)]. Since the Income Tax Laws of Title 26, >> Subtitle A are ONLY applicable to United States territories, and since the >> Virgin Islands is such a territory, jurisdiction is proper in this Court. >> >> VENUE >> >> 2. Venue is proper because the proposed tax assessment is a type of tax >> collected for the jurisdiction of Washington, D.C., and such tax is >> applicable only to the territories under the authority of Washington, >> D.C., and such tax is applicable to the Virgin Islands. >> >> NATURE OF THE PARTIES >> >> 3. The Petitioners are domiciled in one of the 50 states, specifically >> the Oklahoma republic, United States of America. >> >> 4. The Respondent is the Commissioner of Internal Revenue, whose >> authority is delegated to him by the Secretary of the Treasury, and whose >> authority is currently limited to that delegated authority by TDO 150-01 >> and 150-42 -- neither of which delegate authority to the Commissioner to >> operate within the "50 states." >> >> CAUSES FOR RELIEF >> >> 5. ERROR: Petitioners require a redetermination of tax liability >> because the proposed assessment includes amounts not taxable within the >> jurisdiction identified by the tax code for Subtitle A. Such assessment >> should be redetermined to exclude any such amounts -- specifically, the >> amounts attributed to 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 and 1994 see Exhibit A. >> >> 6. ERROR: It was error for Respondent to assess Petitioners because, >> pursuant to Respondent's own records, [i.e.; IMF Specific/Complete >> Transcripts for 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 and 1994 show fraud in computer >> entries. Specifically, According to the IMF Complete Transcripts furnished >> under the Freedom of Information Act by the IRS, for year 1990 [Exhibit A >> ], the Document Locator Number for "LIEN" is 18221-045-05104-3. Using the >> decoder from IRS Document 6209 provided by the IRS via FOIA request [see >> Exhibit F], the True Tax Class is the third digit in the Document Locator >> Number [hereinafter DLN] is 2 -- which is Non-taxable -- according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G]. Additionally, that >> same DLN indicates a Blocking Series of 051 -- which, according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G] is within the >> Blocking Series of 000-199 to be reported on Form CT-1 -- Employer's >> Annual Railroad Retirement and Unemployment Repayment Tax Return. >> Petitioners have never been engaged in any "railroad" activity. >> Petitioners own a trailer hitch business and have no source income from >> any railroad activity. Therefore, the information used to assess, lien, >> levy and seize Petitioners' private property and monies is fraudulent and >> must be abated immediately to avoid criminal prosecution for computer >> fraud. Further, the IR Manual at 33(43)4.3 [see Exhibit H], at para. >> (6)(a), gives specific instructions to Service employees to: ". . . Always >> use Tax Class 6. The first digit in the blocking series will identify the >> true tax class." Once again, the IRS is attempting to commit computer >> fraud since in the DLN for LIEN for tax year 1990 has a third digit [i.e.; >> true tax class of 2 -- which is non-taxable according to Exhibit G] while >> the blocking series first number [i.e.; "0"] indicates a taxable class of >> "0" -- Employee Plans Master File [EMPF]. Petitioner has not, for year >> 1990, submitted any Employee Plans Master File. This inconsistency has >> lead to a fraudulent computer entry which classifies Petitioner as a >> "taxpayer" owing taxes for Employee Plans Master File which is absurd >> since Petitioner has absolutely no income from any Employee Plans Master >> File. >> >> 7. ERROR: It was error for Respondent to assess Petitioners because, >> pursuant to Respondent's own records, [i.e.; IMF Specific/Complete >> Transcripts for 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, and 1994 show fraud in computer >> entries. Specifically, According to the IMF Specific/Complete Transcripts >> furnished under the Freedom of Information Act by the IRS, for year 1991 >> [Exhibit A], the Document Locator Number for "LIEN" is 18221-060-05948-3. >> Using the decoder from IRS Document 6209 provided by the IRS via FOIA >> request [see Exhibit G], the True Tax Class is 2 -- which is Non-taxable >> -- according to Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G]. >> Additionally, that same DLN indicates a Blocking Series of 060 -- which, >> according to Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G] is >> within the Blocking Series of 000-199 -- Form CT-1 Employer's Annual >> Railroad Retirement and Unemployment Repayment Tax Return. Further, the IR >> Manual at 33(43)4.3 [see Exhibit H], at paragraph (6)(a), gives specific >> instructions to Service employees to: ". . . Always use Tax Class 6. The >> first digit in the blocking series will identify the true tax class." Once >> again, the IRS is attempting to commit computer fraud since in the DLN for >> LIEN for tax year 1991 has a third digit [i.e.; true tax class of 2] -- >> which is non-taxable according to Exhibit G] while the blocking series >> first number [i.e.; "0"] indicates a taxable class of "0" -- Employee >> Plans Master File [EMPF]. Petitioner has not, for year 1991, submitted any >> Employee Plans Master File. This inconsistency has lead to a fraudulent >> computer entry which classifies Petitioner as a "taxpayer" owing taxes for >> Employee Plans Master File-which is absurd since Petitioner has absolutely >> no income from any Employee Plans Master File. >> >> 8. ERROR: It was error for Respondent to assess Petitioners because, >> pursuant to Respondent's own records, [i.e.; IMF Specific/Complete >> Transcripts for 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 and 1994 show fraud in computer >> entries. Specifically, According to the IMF Specific/Complete Transcripts >> furnished under the Freedom of Information Act by the IRS, for year 1992 >> [Exhibit A], the Document Locator Number for "LIEN" is 18247-644-00087-4. >> Using the decoder from IRS Document 6209 provided by the IRS via FOIA >> request [see Exhibit F], the True Tax Class is 2 -- which is Non-taxable >> -- according to Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G]. >> Additionally, that same DLN indicates a Blocking Series of 000 -- which, >> according to Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G] is >> within the Blocking Series of 000-199 to be reported on Form CT-1 -- >> Employer's Annual Railroad Retirement and Unemployment Repayment Tax >> Return. Petitioners have never been engaged in any "railroad" activity. >> Therefore, the information used to assess and lien Petitioners is >> fraudulent and must be abated immediately to avoid criminal prosecution >> for computer fraud. Further, the IR Manual at 33(43)4.3 [see Exhibit H], >> at paragraph (6)(a), gives specific instructions to Service employees to: >> ". . . Always use Tax Class 6. The first digit in the blocking series will >> identify the true tax class." Once again, the IRS is attempting to commit >> computer fraud since in the DLN for the LIEN on tax year 1992 has a third >> digit [i.e.; true tax class of 2] -- which is non-taxable according to >> Exhibit G while the blocking series first number [i.e.; "0"] indicates a >> taxable class of "0" -- Employee Plans Master File [EMPF]. Petitioner has >> not, for year 1992, submitted any Employee Plans Master File. This >> inconsistency has lead to a fraudulent computer entry which classifies >> Petitioner as a "taxpayer" owing taxes for Employee Plans Master File -- >> which is absurd since Petitioner has absolutely no income from any >> Employee Plans Master File. >> >> 9. ERROR: It was error for Respondent to assess Petitioners because, >> pursuant to Respondent's own records, [i.e.; IMF Specific/Complete >> Transcripts for 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 and 1994 show fraud in computer >> entries. Specifically, According to the IMF Specific Transcripts furnished >> under the Freedom of Information Act by the IRS, for year 1993 [Exhibit >> A], the Document Locator Number for "LIEN" is 18210-196-00617-5. Using the >> decoder from IRS Document 6209 provided by the IRS via FOIA request [see >> Exhibit F], the True Tax Class is 2 -- which is Non-taxable -- according >> to Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G]. Additionally, >> that same DLN indicates a Blocking Series of 006 -- which, according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G] is within the >> Blocking Series of 000-199 to be reported on Form CT-1 -- Employer's >> Annual Railroad Retirement and Unemployment Repayment Tax Return. >> Petitioners have never been engaged in any "railroad" activity. Therefore, >> the information used to assess and lien Petitioners is fraudulent and must >> be abated immediately to avoid criminal prosecution for computer fraud. >> Further, the IR Manual at 33(43)4.3 [see Exhibit H], at paragraph (6)(a), >> gives specific instructions to Service employees to: ". . . Always use Tax >> Class 6. The first digit in the blocking series will identify the true tax >> class." Once again, the IRS is attempting to commit computer fraud since >> in the DLN for the LIEN on tax year 1993 has a third digit [i.e.; true tax >> class of 2] -- which is non-taxable according to Exhibit G] while the >> blocking series first number [i.e.; "0"] indicates a taxable class of "0" >> -- Employee Plans Master File [EMPF]. Petitioner has not, for year 1993, >> submitted any Employee Plans Master File. This inconsistency has lead to a >> fraudulent computer entry which classifies Petitioner as a "taxpayer" >> owing taxes for Employee Plans Master File -- which is absurd since >> Petitioner has absolutely no income from any Employee Plans Master File. >> >> 10. ERROR: It was error for Respondent to assess Petitioners because, >> pursuant to Respondent's own records, [i.e.; IMF Specific/Complete >> Transcripts for 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 and 1994 show fraud in computer >> entries. Specifically, According to the IMF Specific Transcripts furnished >> under the Freedom of Information Act by the IRS, for year 1994 [Exhibit >> A], the Document Locator Number for "LIEN" is 18210-196-00616-5. Using the >> decoder from IRS Document 6209 provided by the IRS via FOIA request [see >> Exhibit F], the True Tax Class is 2 -- which is Non-taxable -- according >> to Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G]. Additionally, >> that same DLN indicates a Blocking Series of 006 -- which, according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G] is within the >> Blocking Series of 000-199 -- Form CT-1 Employer's Annual Railroad >> Retirement and Unemployment Repayment Tax Return. Further, the IR Manual >> at 33(43)4.3 [see Exhibit H], at paragraph (6)(a), gives specific >> instructions to Service employees to: ". . . Always use Tax Class 6. The >> first digit in the blocking series will identify the true tax class." Once >> again, the IRS is attempting to commit computer fraud since in the DLN for >> the LIEN on tax year 1992 has a third digit [i.e.; true tax class of 2] -- >> which is non-taxable according to Exhibit G] while the blocking series >> first number [i.e.; "0"] indicates a taxable class of "0" -- Employee >> Plans Master File [EMPF]. Petitioner has not, for year 1994, submitted any >> Employee Plans Master File. This inconsistency has lead to a fraudulent >> computer entry which classifies Petitioner as a "taxpayer" owing taxes for >> Employee Plans Master File -- which is absurd since Petitioner has >> absolutely no income from any Employee Plans Master File. >> >> 11. ERROR: It was error for Respondent to assess Petitioners because, >> pursuant to Respondent's own records, [i.e.; AMDISA RECORD for 1992 -- see >> Exhibit I] indicates deliberate fraud in computer entries. Specifically, >> According to the AMDISA RECORD furnished under the Freedom of Information >> Act by the IRS, for year 1992 [Exhibit I], the Document Locator Number for >> Petitioner's tax status is XREF-DLN> 18247-243-00000-4. Using the decoder >> from IRS Document 6209 provided by the IRS via FOIA request [see Exhibit >> F], the True Tax Class is 2 -- which is Non-taxable -- according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G]. Additionally, that >> same DLN indicates a Blocking Series of 000 -- which, according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G] is within the >> Blocking Series of 000-199 -- to be reported on Form CT-1 -- Employer's >> Annual Railroad Retirement and Unemployment Repayment Tax Return. >> Petitioners have never been engaged in any "railroad" activity. Therefore, >> the information used to assess and lien Petitioners is fraudulent and must >> be abated immediately to avoid criminal prosecution for computer fraud. >> Further, the IR Manual at 33(43)4.3 [see Exhibit H], at paragraph (6)(a), >> gives specific instructions to Service employees to: ". . . Always use Tax >> Class 6. The first digit in the blocking series will identify the true tax >> class." Once again, the IRS is attempting to commit computer fraud since >> in the DLN for the AMDISA RECORD [i.e.; Petitioner's tax status] on tax >> year 1992 has a third digit [i.e.; true tax class of 2] -- which is >> non-taxable according to Exhibit G] while the blocking series first number >> [i.e.; "0"] indicates a taxable class of "0" -- Employee Plans Master File >> [EMPF]. Petitioner has not, for year 1992, submitted any Employee Plans >> Master File. This inconsistency has lead to a fraudulent computer entry >> which classifies Petitioner as a "taxpayer" owing taxes for Employee Plans >> Master File -- which is absurd since Petitioner has absolutely no income >> from any Employee Plans Master File. >> >> 12. ERROR: [Note to Court: Petitioner received this new updated AMDISA >> RECORD just one day before this filing of this instant Petition] It was >> error for Respondent to assess Petitioners because, pursuant to >> Respondent's own records, [i.e.; AMDISA RECORD for 1992 -- see Exhibit I] >> indicates deliberate fraud in computer entries. Specifically, According to >> the AMDISA RECORD furnished under the Freedom of Information Act by the >> IRS, for year 1992 [Exhibit I], the Document Locator Number for >> Petitioner's tax status is XREF-DLN > 73277-361-20000-5. Using the decoder >> from IRS Document 6209 provided by the IRS via FOIA request [see Exhibit >> F], the True Tax Class is 2 -- which is Non-taxable -- according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G]. Additionally, that >> same DLN indicates a Blocking Series of 200 -- which, according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G] is within the >> Blocking Series of 200-299 -- NON-TAXABLE. Therefore, the information used >> to assess and lien Petitioners is fraudulent and must be abated >> immediately to avoid criminal prosecution for computer fraud. Further, the >> IR Manual at 33(43)4.3 [see Exhibit H], at paragraph (6)(a), gives >> specific instructions to Service employees to: ". . . Always use Tax Class >> 6. The first digit in the blocking series will identify the true tax >> class." Once again, the IRS is attempting to commit computer fraud since >> in the DLN for the AMDISA RECORD [i.e.; Petitioner's tax status] on tax >> year 1992 has a third digit [i.e.; true tax class of 2] -- which is >> non-taxable according to Exhibit G] while the blocking series first number >> [i.e.; "2"] indicates a NON TAXABLE ENTITY. This inconsistency has lead to >> a fraudulent computer entry which classifies Petitioner as a "taxpayer" >> owing taxes -- which he does not. >> >> 13. ERROR: [Note to Court: Petitioner received this new updated AMDISA >> RECORD just one day before this filing of this instant Petition] It was >> error for Respondent to assess Petitioners because, pursuant to >> Respondent's own records, [i.e.; AMDISA RECORD for 1993 -- see Exhibit I] >> indicates deliberate fraud in computer entries. Specifically, According to >> the AMDISA RECORD furnished under the Freedom of Information Act by the >> IRS, for year 1993 [Exhibit I], the Document Locator Number for >> Petitioner's tax status is XREF-DLN > 73277-187-20000-5. Using the decoder >> from IRS Document 6209 provided by the IRS via FOIA request [see Exhibit >> F], the True Tax Class is 2 -- which is Non-taxable according to Internal >> Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G]. Additionally, that same DLN >> indicates a Blocking Series of 200 -- which, according to Internal Revenue >> Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G] is within the Blocking Series of >> 200-299 -- NON-TAXABLE. Therefore, the information used to assess and lien >> Petitioners is fraudulent and must be abated immediately to avoid criminal >> prosecution for computer fraud. Further, the IR Manual at 33(43)4.3 [see >> Exhibit H], at para. (6)(a), gives specific instructions to Service >> employees to: ". . . Always use Tax Class 6. The first digit in the >> blocking series will identify the true tax class." Once again, the IRS is >> attempting to commit computer fraud since in the DLN for the AMDISA RECORD >> [i.e.; Petitioner's tax status] on tax year 1992 has a third digit [i.e.; >> true tax class of 2] -- which is non-taxable according to Exhibit G] while >> the blocking series first number [i.e.; "2"] indicates a NON TAXABLE >> ENTITY. This inconsistency has lead to a fraudulent computer entry which >> classifies Petitioner as a "taxpayer" owing taxes -- which he does not. >> >> 14. ERROR: [Note to Court: Petitioner received this new updated AMDISA >> RECORD just one day before this filing of this instant Petition] It was >> error for Respondent to assess Petitioners because, pursuant to >> Respondent's own records, [i.e.; AMDISA RECORD for 1994 --see Exhibit I] >> indicates deliberate fraud in computer entries. Specifically, According to >> the AMDISA RECORD furnished under the Freedom of Information Act by the >> IRS, for year 1994 [Exhibit I], the Document Locator Number for >> Petitioner's tax status is XREF-DLN > 73277-187-20000-5. Using the decoder >> from IRS Document 6209 provided by the IRS via FOIA request [see Exhibit >> F], the True Tax Class is 2 -- which is Non-taxable -- according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G]. Additionally, that >> same DLN indicates a Blocking Series of 200 -- which, according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G] is within the >> Blocking Series of 200-299 -- NON-TAXABLE. Therefore, the information used >> to assess and lien Petitioners is fraudulent and must be abated >> immediately to avoid criminal prosecution for computer fraud. Further, the >> IR Manual at 33(43)4.3 [see Exhibit H], at paragraph (6)(a), gives >> specific instructions to Service employees to: ". . . Always use Tax Class >> 6. The first digit in the blocking series will identify the true tax >> class." Once again, the IRS is attempting to commit computer fraud since >> in the DLN for the AMDISA RECORD [i.e.; Petitioner's tax status] on tax >> year 1992 has a third digit [i.e.; true tax class of 2] -- which is >> non-taxable according to Exhibit G while the blocking series first number >> [i.e.; "2"] indicates a NON TAXABLE ENTITY. This inconsistency has lead to >> a fraudulent computer entry which classifies Petitioner as a "taxpayer" >> owing taxes -- which he does not. >> >> 15. ERROR: It was error for the respondent to ignore Petitioner's >> pre-petition correspondence, pursuant to the policy published in 5 USC >> section 552a [Administrative Procedures Act], Publication 594 and Internal >> Revenue Manual Handbook Policy, P-6-12, require the Commissioner to answer >> all inquiries from the public. By ignoring such correspondence, an >> erroneous assessment has been proposed, and unnecessary litigation has >> been caused. [see Exhibit J] >> >> 16. ERROR: It was error for Respondent to assess Petitioners because, >> pursuant to Respondent's own records, [i.e.; AMDISA RECORD for 1992 -- see >> Exhibit I] indicates deliberate fraud in computer entries. Specifically, >> According to the AMDISA RECORD furnished under the Freedom of Information >> Act by the IRS, for year 1992 [Exhibit I], the Document Locator Number for >> Petitioner's tax status is XREF-DLN > 18247-243-00000-4. Using the decoder >> from IRS Document 6209 provided by the IRS via FOIA request [see Exhibit >> F], the True Tax Class is 2 -- which is Non-taxable -- according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G]. Additionally, that >> same DLN indicates a Blocking Series of 000 -- which, according to >> Internal Revenue Manual 3(10)(72)7.2 [see Exhibit G] is within the >> Blocking Series of 000-199 -- to be reported on Form CT-1 -- Employer's >> Annual Railroad Retirement and Unemployment Repayment Tax Return. >> Petitioners have never been engaged in any "railroad" activity. Therefore, >> the information used to assess and lien Petitioners is fraudulent and must >> be abated immediately to avoid criminal prosecution for computer fraud. >> Further, the IR Manual at 33(43)4.3 [see Exhibit H], at paragraph (6)(a), >> gives specific instructions to Service employees to: ". . . Always use Tax >> Class 6. The first digit in the blocking series will identify the true tax >> class." Once again, the IRS is attempting to commit computer fraud since >> in the DLN for the AMDISA RECORD [i.e.; Petitioner's tax status] on tax >> year 1992 has a third digit [i.e.; true tax class of 2] -- which is >> non-taxable according to Exhibit G while the blocking series first number >> [i.e.; "0"] indicates a taxable class of "0" Employee Plans Master File >> [EMPF]. Petitioner has not, for year 1992, submitted any Employee Plans >> Master File. This inconsistency has lead to a fraudulent computer entry >> which classifies Petitioner as a "taxpayer" owing taxes for Employee Plans >> Master File -- which is absurd since Petitioner has absolutely no income >> from any Employee Plans Master File. 12. ERROR: It was error for the >> respondent to ignore Petitioner's pre petition correspondence, pursuant to >> the policy published in S USC section 552a [Administrative Procedures >> Act], Publication 594 and Internal Revenue Manual Handbook Policy, P-6-12, >> require the Commissioner to answer all inquiries from the public. By >> ignoring such correspondence, an erroneous assessment has been proposed, >> and unnecessary litigation has been caused. [see Exhibit J] >> >> RELIEF REQUESTED >> >> 17. Petitioners require: a) a redetermination of proposed assessment >> pursuant to Virgin Islands District Court Rules 71A.1; b) for >> reimbursement of costs pursuant to 26 USC section 7430; c) immediate >> release of Levy/Lien/Seizure of private property/assessment/collection >> activities executed by IRS Revenue Officers; d) return of all monies taken >> under the guise, sham and subterfuge of "income taxes owed" i.e.; >> $40,767.18 plus interest and penalties] and e) for such other relief as >> this court deems just and proper. Petitioners, pursuant to procedural and >> substantive Due Process, understands and agrees to a stay of any and all >> further collection activities pending the disposition of this Petition by >> this Honorable Court. >> >> <> > >-----End of forwarded message----- > >-- > > > =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: the "govenment agent" lie Date: 22 Jan 1997 08:53:25 -0800 (PST) Paul, this is nutty. Why do you send this junk to roc? -Boyd (PS It would be really cool if your email reader put the reply to addressee in the attributions like the line below. Maybe there's a setting for that?) On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > Dear Libertarians, > > I have a general complaint > about all the members of this > list who have perpetrated the lie > that I am a government informant, > government agent, agent provocateur, > or similar false accusation. > > I know you have no evidence to > support such a false accusation, > and I know this as a matter of > fact. > > Where do I get redress for the > real damages which I have sustained > because of these lies? > > The lies have interferred with > my ability to attract clients, > so there may be a real serious, > perhaps criminal, motive behind > these lies. > > Is that what you intended? > > The matter of motive would be > for a jury to decide, in the > final analysis. > > If you want to throw me off this > list without addressing these issues, > I think that action will say a lot of > things about your club, things you might > not want others to know. > > And I think it will only damage your > credibility, and only hurt you in the > long run, if not also the short run. > > The Libertarian share of the voting > population is already of no consequence. > > /s/ Paul Mitchell > > copy: The Internet > > > > At 08:58 AM 1/21/97 -0700, you wrote: > >> It appears this list will have to be changed so that only members can post > >> to it. I hope this doesn't require yet another 2-week balloting process. > > > >Mark, > > I'm not sure if I understand what you are saying here. Are you > >implying that we should amend the club constitution so that only members > of the > >Libertarian Students Club at the University of Arizona may post to the list? > >If you are, then I must say that all constitutional amendments do require 2 > >weeks. Currently our constitution says that anyone may post to the list but > >the last amendment we passed allows LSUA club members to revoke or suspend > the > >posting priviledges of a person with a 2/3 vote. I will post the results of > >the proposal to revoke PAM's posting privs today at 4pm. > > > >-- > >Jackie Casey > >casey@life.arizona.edu > > > > > > =========================================================== > Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com > ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state > =========================================================== > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: wooden stake ORDER Date: 22 Jan 1997 09:51:46 -0700 (MST) This is an ORDER! Get yourself down to the local hardware store, buy a nice fat wooden stake, along with the biggest sledge hammer they have, and take your Form 1040 out into the front yard, sharpen that stake to a fine point, and drive it clean through that Form 1040 with your new sledge hammer, using every muscle and sinew you can muster! Any similarity between this procedure, and the final moments of Dracula, is purely coincidental. THAT'S AN ORDER!! Now DO IT!!! /s/ Paul Mitchell, Triumphant at Last =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rmeldrum@abacus.bates.edu (Ron Meldrum) Subject: BIA Fraud Settlement Date: 22 Jan 1997 12:16:07 -0400 Hello all; Methinks this fellow is directing his appeal to the wrong person, but it's interesting nonetheless. Ron Meldrum New Gloucester, Maine > Petition to President Clinton (President@whitehouse.gov) > Interior Secretary Babbitt (exsec@ios.doi.gov) > > Subject: More Stealing From Indians > > Petition: > A century ago the U.S. Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) assumed the > involuntary trust care of the personal cash accounts of American > Indians, in a banking system known as IIM (the Individual Indian > Money system.) This system is a source of endless fraud and theft > from Indians. As a BIA Auditor (CPA) in 1986, I first reported substantial > fraud and missing money, and was immediately fired by BIA as a > whistleblower, a title I am not ashamed to own. Since then there have > been countless studies and audits, all agreeing with the basic facts and > conclusion, that more or less $2.4 billion dollars in Indian Trust > accounts is missing or unaccounted for. A class action law suit has > been filed against BIA in the name of 300,000 account holders by the > Native American Rights Fund. > > On 12/13/96 a news report leads me to believe that a settlement in > compromise may be coming from BIA, not to > exceed $600 million dollars. Settlements generally require the > recipient to sign a release, in this situation it would release BIA > from any additional liability for the "trust care" due from collecting > and holding these trust fund accounts. > > This would fully cover-up and whitewash the largest fraud in the > history of the United States, at the expense of our much abused and > impoverished (for obvious reasons) Native American citizens. I > demand that this continued stealing from Indians must stop now > and forever more! > > Our Constitution states that private property can not be taken > without "just compensation", and it is time to apply this protection > equally to all citizens, including Indians. Any lesser treatment would > continue the institutional (BIA) racism that our Indian citizens have > been subject to since they were first "discovered" living in this > land, as free, proud, prosperous and self governing nations. > > To provide a just solution, a Court of Claims must be empowered > to hear the claims of Indians against BIA for: > 1.) Missing trust funds. > 2.) Lands leased by BIA at less than market value. > 3.) Oil, gas, coal and timber sold by BIA for less than market value. > 4.) Indian land sales at less than market value. > 5.) All similar financial frauds and abuses. > 6.) Interest to date on these losses and thefts. > > While you're at it, please restore this whistleblower to his BIA position in > accordance with our much abused whistleblower laws. BIA simply > can not be reformed while honesty is suppressed and those who > keep silent about fraud keep their BIA jobs!! > ............................................................................ > ................................... > > Signed: David L. Henry, aka Whistleblower, December 13, 1996 > Address: Billings, Montana Email whistler@imt.net > > This petition may be copied and forwarded. Please add your > name and address in support of this petition, and forward to > the President and Secretary of the Interior, and also send > a copy to whistler@imt.net. Thank you for caring about > our brothers and sisters who are Indian !! > > Signature:__________________________________ > Address ____________________________________ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: RIP IRC Date: 22 Jan 1997 10:55:17 -0700 (MST) For some background on the USDC ruling from the Virgin Islands, visit the Supreme Law Library at URL: http://www.supremelaw.com and read the article "Congresswoman Suspected of Income Tax Evasion." This will give you some simple prose to explain the immense significance of the USDC's ruling. Inquire here about getting an electronic copy of Rep. Kennelly's letter, proving that "State" is restricted to the federal zone! /s/ Paul Mitchell =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Job Well Done! Date: 22 Jan 1997 11:14:36 -0700 (MST) Many thanks to Computers Plus in Tucson, Arizona state, for doing such a superb job on my latest computer upgrade. The machine is cool, quiet, fast, and reliable -- a lifelong dream for Nerds like Us! /s/ Paul Mitchell Triumphant at Last Contact: Computers Plus 4508 E. Broadway Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85711 (520) 326-5900 (520) 326-0748 fax Corbin Smith, Sales Tony Morales, Computer Consultant Dana and the Pit Crew, Tech Support =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: opinion of USDC, Virgin Islands (request for certified copy) Date: 22 Jan 1997 13:00:07 -0700 (MST) [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] MEMO TO: Clerk of Court United States District Court District of the Virgin Islands 5500 Veteran's Drive, Suite 310 Charlotte Amalie St. Thomas, Virgin Islands Postal Zone 00802-6424 FROM: Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Counselor at Law DATE: January 22, 1997 SUBJECT: Burnett v. Commissioner, KTC 1996-292 (D.V.I. 1996) opinion of court We have an immediate need for a certified copy of the opinion of the court in Burnett v. Commissioner, docket number #96-146, in response to plaintiff's Petition for Redetermination filed on July 12, 1996. Because time is of the essence, please accept this fax as our firm commitment to pay your normal copy and certification fees. Upon receipt of your invoice, we will pay it in full with a United States Postal Money Order, mailed to you as soon as possible. If you can, please fax the court's opinion to (520) 320-1256. This is a dedicated 24-hour fax line. In the alternative, please send a certified copy, via Priority U.S. Mail, to the mailing location shown below. Thank you very much for your consideration. Sincerely yours, /s/ Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Counselor at Law and federal witness c/o 2509 N. Campbell Avenue, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state, USA Postal Zone 85719/tdc email: pmitch@primenet.com (586/Eudora Pro 3.0: preferred, to conserve all resources) phone: (520) 320-1514 (private line: please get permission to disclose) fax machine: (520) 320-1256 (dedicated hard copy: available 24-hours per day or night) fax modem: (520) 320-1513 (dedicated email line: please call phone to switch software) # # # =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Article III Judges Date: 22 Jan 1997 16:46:46 -0700 (MST) [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson [zip code exempt] ARIZONA REPUBLIC January 22, 1997 Disclosure Officer Administrative Office of the U.S. Courts Thurgood Marshall Federal Judiciary Building One Columbus Circle, N.E. Washington, D.C. Dear Disclosure Officer: Please provide Us, as soon as possible, with a certified copy of the credentials of one James H. Hancock, employed as a federal district judge in the United States District Court ("USDC") for the Northern District of Alabama, Middle Division. Judge Hancock alleges that he is currently an Article III judge [sic], but he is also paying federal income taxes on his judicial compensation, in violation of Article III, Section 1, in the U.S. Constitution, which has never been repealed or amended. In a recent ORDER issued from the wrong court, Judge Hancock stated that he would be positively thrilled to learn from some authoritative source that he is exempt from federal taxes. Evidently, Judge Hancock does not consider the U.S. Constitution to be an "authoritative source"; I do hope I have not drawn the wrong inference from his ORDER. We refer you (and Judge Hancock) to the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States in Evans v. Gore, 253 U.S. 245 (1920), which held that judicial immunity from diminution of their compensation must be sustained, notwithstanding the so-called 16th amendment [sic]. Our research informs Us that this decision has never been formally overturned, notwithstanding allegations to the contrary which have been published in the UCLA Law Review. During calendar 1996, I did witness a copy of stationery from the "Article III Judges Division" [sic] of your offices, which had been transmitted through the United States Mail to Me from Carol S. Sefren, Chief, Judges Compensation and Benefits Branch, Article III Judges Division (see attached response). Can it be that your office continues to misinform federal judges that they are authorized under Article III, even though those very same judges are paying federal income taxes on their judicial compensation, in violation of Article III, Section 1, and in violation of the standing decision in Evans v. Gore, and even though all federal district judges currently preside over the USDC, and not over the District Court of the United States ("DCUS")? See Balzac v. Porto Rico, 258 U.S. 298, 312 (1921). If this is the case, permit Us respectfully to request that you cease and desist this practice at once, because it is misleading, not only for all the judges on your payroll, but also for the public at large whom those judges were appointed to serve, with integrity and without undue influence. See also Lord v. Kelley, 240 F.Supp. 167, 169 (1965), to appreciate how far our judiciary has deteriorated since the decision in Evans. Please respond as quickly as possible. Until We receive your certified response, important litigation must be put on hold. Thank you very much for your consideration. Sincerely yours, /s/ Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Citizen of Arizona state and federal witness copy: James H. Hancock, Senior United States District Judge William H. Rehnquist, C.J., U.S. Supreme Court parties listed in PROOF OF SERVICE, State v. Kemp litigation files # # # =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: opinion of USDC, Virgin Islands (request for certified copy) Date: 22 Jan 1997 16:56:41 -0700 (MST) Do you have any people paying federal income taxes in your neck of the woods? Do you have any federal judges in your neck of the woods? If neither is the case, then I apologize for being presumptuous. See "Congresswoman Suspected of Income Tax Evasion" in the Supreme Law Library at URL: http://www.supremelaw.com for more details. /s/ Paul Mitchell At 03:45 PM 1/22/97 -0800, you wrote: > >Dear Mr Mitchell, > >How do you figure that this post is on a topic of general interest to >libertarians in the Pacific Northwest? > >-- Bruce > >On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > >> [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] >> >> MEMO >> >> TO: Clerk of Court >> United States District Court >> District of the Virgin Islands >> 5500 Veteran's Drive, Suite 310 >> Charlotte Amalie >> St. Thomas, Virgin Islands >> Postal Zone 00802-6424 >> >> FROM: Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. >> Counselor at Law >> >> DATE: January 22, 1997 >> >> SUBJECT: Burnett v. Commissioner, KTC 1996-292 (D.V.I. 1996) >> opinion of court >> >> >> We have an immediate need for a certified copy of the opinion of >> the court in Burnett v. Commissioner, docket number #96-146, in >> response to plaintiff's Petition for Redetermination filed on >> July 12, 1996. >> >> Because time is of the essence, please accept this fax as our >> firm commitment to pay your normal copy and certification fees. >> Upon receipt of your invoice, we will pay it in full with a >> United States Postal Money Order, mailed to you as soon as >> possible. >> >> If you can, please fax the court's opinion to (520) 320-1256. >> This is a dedicated 24-hour fax line. In the alternative, please >> send a certified copy, via Priority U.S. Mail, to the mailing >> location shown below. >> >> Thank you very much for your consideration. >> >> Sincerely yours, >> >> /s/ Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. >> >> Counselor at Law and federal witness >> c/o 2509 N. Campbell Avenue, #1776 >> Tucson, Arizona state, USA >> Postal Zone 85719/tdc >> >> email: pmitch@primenet.com (586/Eudora Pro 3.0: >> preferred, to conserve all resources) >> phone: (520) 320-1514 (private line: >> please get permission to disclose) >> fax machine: (520) 320-1256 (dedicated hard copy: >> available 24-hours per day or night) >> fax modem: (520) 320-1513 (dedicated email line: >> please call phone to switch software) >> >> >> # # # >> >> >> =========================================================== >> Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com >> ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state >> =========================================================== >> > > > ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > Bruce Alexander Knight and/or Astarte' T. Rainbow > Libertarian for Congress Campaign Manager > Oregon District 3 Knight for Congress > > PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS -- VOTE FOR KNIGHT > > email: baknight@teleport.com phone: (503)-761-7802 > > > > > =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: IRC just died Date: 22 Jan 1997 13:58:13 -0700 (MST) Paul Mitchell clarifies infra: >> Everyone, >> >> The Internal Revenue Code >> is now "officially" dead! >> >> Let us celebrate, shall we? >> >> Let the word go out, >> all across this land, >> that the extortion is over, >> and we can now begin again >> to rebuild this great land, >> for ourselves, >> for our children, >> and for theirs. >> >> Gloria Halleluia! >> >> The Lord has delivered us. >> >> He has heard our prayers, >> and He has answered them, >> as He said He always would. >> >> Praise to the Most High, >> once again. >> >> Amen. >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> (still weeping for joy) >> >> copy: everyone whose >> heart is still beating. >> >> =========================================================== >> Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com >> ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state >> =========================================================== >> >> -> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo@world.std.com >> -> Posted by: Paul Andrew Mitchell > > >Paul, In plain language, what does this mean for each of us??judy The term "United States" as used in the Internal Revenue Code is restricted to the areas of land over which Congress has exclusive legislative jurisdiction, because of the way that term is legally defined. These areas are the District of Columbia, Guam, Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, Northern Mariana Islands, and the Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands. Collectively, these areas are now called "the federal zone". These area do NOT encompass, or "include", any of the 50 States of the Union. The 50 States are now called "the state zone". If you are not receiving "income" from sources within the federal zone, then you have no income tax liability whatsoever. So, you have been deceived, and you should not file a Form 1040 on or before April 15. If the federal government owes you money, send them an invoice on April 15 (or sooner). What you need to do is "bill Clinton", care of the U.S. Department of the Treasury :) This will fast become the new American dance wave: do a "bill Clinton"!! Does that help? /s/ Paul Mitchell p.s. For the complete story, in full detail, see "The Federal Zone: Cracking the Code of Internal Revenue," electronic fifth edition, available from Us for $25 cash or blank U.S. Postal Money Order. =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BludyRed@aol.com Subject: HR 339 Date: 22 Jan 1997 23:06:34 -0500 (EST) This is HR 339, The proposed reciprocal carry law. It was downloaded from Thomas and converted from HTML to TEXT by me. Any errors or omissions are mine. Regards, Dennis Baron --------- HR 339 IH 105th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 339 To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a national standard in accordance with which nonresidents of a State may carry certain concealed firearms in the State, and to exempt qualified current and former law enforcement officers from State laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed handguns. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES January 7, 1997 Mr. STEARNS (for himself, Mr. BARTLETT of Maryland, Mr. HOSTETTLER, and Mr. BARR of Georgia) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary A BILL To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a national standard in accordance with which nonresidents of a State may carry certain concealed firearms in the State, and to exempt qualified current and former law enforcement officers from State laws prohibiting the carrying of concealed handguns. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. NATIONAL STANDARD FOR THE CARRYING OF CERTAIN CONCEALED FIREARMS BY NONRESIDENTS. (a) IN GENERAL- Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 926A the following: `Sec. 926B. National standard for the carrying of certain concealed firearms by nonresidents `(a) Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision thereof, a person who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm and is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued by a State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm (other than a machinegun or destructive device) may carry in another State a concealed firearm (other than a machinegun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, subject to subsection (b). `(b)(1) If such other State issues licenses or permits to carry concealed firearms, the person may carry a concealed firearm in the State under the same restrictions which apply to the carrying of a concealed firearm by a person to whom the State has issued such a license or permit. `(2) If such other State does not issue licenses or permits to carry concealed firearms, the person may not, in the State, carry a concealed firearm in a police station, in a public detention facility, in a courthouse, in a public polling place, at a meeting of a State, county, or municipal governing body, in a school, at a professional or school athletic event not related to firearms, in a portion of an establishment licensed by the State to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, or inside the sterile or passenger area of an airport, except to the extent expressly permitted by State law.'. (b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT- The table of sections for such chapter is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 926A the following: `926B. National standard for the carrying of certain concealed firearms by nonresidents.'. SEC. 2. EXEMPTION OF QUALIFIED CURRENT AND FORMER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FROM STATE LAWS PROHIBITING THE CARRYING OF CONCEALED HANDGUNS. (a) IN GENERAL- Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 926B, as added by section 1(a) of this Act, the following: `Sec. 926C. Carrying of concealed handguns by qualified current and former law enforcement officers `(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of the law of any State or any political subdivision thereof, an individual who is a qualified law enforcement officer or a qualified former law enforcement officer and who is carrying appropriate written identification of such status may carry a concealed handgun. `(b) As used in this section: `(1) The term `qualified law enforcement officer' means an officer, agent, or employee of a public agency who-- `(A) is a law enforcement officer; `(B) is authorized by the agency to carry a firearm in the course of duty; `(C) is not the subject of any disciplinary action by the agency; and `(D) meets such requirements as have been established by the agency with respect to firearms. `(2) The term `qualified former law enforcement officer' means an individual who-- `(A) retired from service with a public agency as a law enforcement officer, other than for reasons of mental disability; `(B) immediately before such retirement, was a qualified law enforcement officer; `(C) has a nonforfeitable right to benefits under the retirement plan of the agency; `(D) meets such requirements as have been established by the State in which the individual resides with respect to training in the use of firearms; and `(E) is not prohibited by Federal law from receiving a firearm. `(3) The term `law enforcement officer' means an individual authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of any violation of law, and includes corrections, probation, parole, and judicial officers. `(4) The term `appropriate written identification' means, with respect to an individual, a document which-- `(A) was issued to the individual by the public agency with which the individual serves or served as a law enforcement officer; and `(B) identifies the holder of the document as a current or former officer, agent, or employee of the agency.'. (b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT- The table of sections for such chapter is amended by inserting after the item added by section 1(b) of this Act the following: `926C. Carrying of concealed handguns by qualified current and former law enforcement officers.'. (c) EFFECTIVE DATE- The amendments made by this section shall take effect 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act. END ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: HR 339 Date: 23 Jan 1997 07:54:19 -0800 (PST) Whoa! Way to confuse me Dennis. I come in to work all bleary eyed, check email then peer hesitatingly into ROC (restore our constitution) and find -this-, an "on topic" forward. Talk about disorienting. Say, don't people get kicked off roc for being concise and on topic? -Boyd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack@minerva.com Subject: First build up for new war Date: 23 Jan 1997 08:00:38 PST This was in the Mid East Dispatch (see end for subscription information) and it was in SNS during the week in a shorter form. The complete house report is on Grabbe's web page(WWW.aci.net/kalliste). I have not seen hide nor hair about any of this in the major US MEDIA. I consider it very interesting. Whether much of it is true or just the first attempts to convice a dubious public by an interventionist mad government that we need to be sending hundreds of thousands of troops is less clear. The special section in the ECONOMIST for the 18th of January is all about IRAN and bears zilch similarity with the following. Granted, I seldom look on the ECONOMIST as gospel. The real truth is probably someplace in between. Jack THE MID-EAST DISPATCH MIDWEEK EXTRA - No. 005 - 22th January 1997 A US Congress report last month predicts imminent war in the Middle East, in which Syria is expected to initiate a surprise attack on Israel, with Palestinian, Iraqi and Iranian support. It makes unprecedented statements about the nuclear capabilities of Iran and Pakistan, and Syrian involvement in Saudi-Arabian terrorism, such as the Dhahran bombing. MED Editor-in-Chief Chris Bourne describes the evidence. THE ARAB STRATEGY FOR WAR Washington's Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare published a report last month, on December 10th, so alarming, and so pessimistic in its outlook for the future of the Middle East, that it was promptly ignored by the international media. A story of peace processes and virtuous negotiation, this is not. "Approaching the end of 1996" says the report, "The Middle East may well be on the verge of a major regional war. Numerous sources in the region report that the supreme leaders - both civilians and military - in most Arab states, as well as in Iran and Pakistan are convinced that the present vulnerability of Israel is so great that there is a unique opportunity to, at the very least, begin the process leading to the destruction of Israel. These circumstances are considered to be a historic window of opportunity the Muslim World should not miss. Therefore, these Muslim leaders have finalized numerous strategies and tactical alliances heretofore non-existent in the region." According to the report, there are two main issues preying on the minds of the Syrian, Iraqi and Iranian leaders. The first is the need to ensure the succession of their designated sons-and-heirs. The second is the need to assuage, and to some degree control, the rising tide of popular Islamic fundamentalism. "The present leaders of Iran, Syria and Iraq are determined to transfer power to their sons-and-heirs. They are convinced that only the emergence of a close alliance leading to a perpetual crisis against the rest of the world will rally the potential contenders in their own respective coteries to accept their chosen sons as leaders. The mere existence of a functioning militant block will enable the other "sons-of" to assist and save a "son-of" in distress." says the report. At present, this popular mood is focused on the issue of Jerusalem - the liberation of Al Quds. The committee therefore suggests that the catalyst for provoking what it describes as an inevitable "dramatic breakout" from the current deadlock is what it calls the "slide toward the resumption of violence...between the Arabs and Israel", in which the peace process, so far from being a solution, is already viewed as inadequate to contain the aspirations of Islamic fanaticism. This view, says the report, is shared by many other Arab and Iranian officials. The final condition for the timing of the expected war is the peaking of the succession struggle in Saudi Arabia. Note in the below extract not only the stated link between Syria and the Saudi opposition, but the direct statement that the Dhahran bombing was initiated by this relationship. On this, the report says: "The Abdallah faction is determined to seize power through the eviction of the US from the region, the solution of Saudi Arabia's shortage of cash by accepting more lucrative contracts with East Asia at the expense of the West, and by establishing close relations with the radical states as a guarantee against Islamist subversion. The very close Abdallah-Assad relations constitute the key to Prince Abdallah's rise to power. These relations have already initiated the bombing in Dhahran. Prince Abdallah has already promised Damascus to deliver a comprehensive oil embargo against the West in case of a major crisis with Israel." OPERATION VELAYAT The report is thick with detail of meetings between the major players. The key meeting appears to be in the Spring of 1996 when Hafiz al-Assad and Saddam Hussein met secretly to endorse a tri-partite strategic deal, the third partner being Iran. The result was operation 'Velayat' in May 1996, an Iranian war exercise. Says the report: "The essence of Velayat was a multiple corps deep offensive in the aftermath of a long range advance identical to the distance between Iran and Israel. The objective of Velayat was to confirm Iran's ability to send a strategically effective expeditionary force - the Velayat Force - to contribute to a regional war against high-quality armies. The primary intended objective of the exercise is Israel. The entire Iranian top leadership and high command were present at the exercise. Subsequent Iranian analysis pointed out deficiencies in the planning of the operations of a key special forces unit. These were quickly corrected and these improvements were demonstrated to the Tehran leadership in a follow-up exercise in late October." Following the successful conclusion of the first exercise, Syria and Iran then negotiated their war strategy, and signed an agreement in June "specifically for the codification of their military cooperation against Israel. This agreement also provides for joint exercises in northern and northeastern Iran of the command elements of Syrian units and the Iranian units that will arrive to support them on the Golan front." ROLE OF THE PLO IN THE PLANNED WAR By mid-August, Iraq was brought into the joint command. Says the report: "A key component of this joint command has been the coordination of the activities of Iran, Iraq, and Syria in mobilizing their SSM forces for a possible missile barrage against Israel. In late September, the Palestinian factor was added to the joint preparations when the Palestinian Authorities (PA) entered into a major military agreement with Syria. Significantly, this agreement is between the PA, and not the PLO, and Syria, thus explicitly committing the Palestinian forces in the territories. The essence of the agreement is for the Palestinian "police" forces and other armed elements (terrorist organizations) to flare-up the Israeli interior in case of an escalation in the north. Syrian and PLO intelligence established a liaison section made up of senior Syrian and Palestinian intelligence officers with HQs in Beirut, Damascus and Gaza. In return, Syria will provide weapons and advanced training to PLO units in the refugees camps in southern Lebanon - units disarmed as part of the Israeli-Lebanese agreements." The report continues with an account of the PLO's preparations for war. "In Gaza, Arafat ordered the marked acceleration of the building of a personal command bunker, four stories deep. Moreover, the PLO is rapidly building all over Gaza a chain of command centers, ammunition and weapons-storage areas - all of them underground and well fortified to even withstand Israeli bombing and shelling. The PA's security services are also accumulating large stockpiles of anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons, including missiles, even though they are forbidden by the Oslo Accords." The report then goes on to discuss Egypt's role, after the recent army exercises which simulated an offensive against Israel. Politically, the report notes that Mohammed al-Moula has been allowed to establish a political party committed to "revive the 'victorious spirit" of the October 1973 war. Meetings were then held involving Jordan, the Lebanon, and 'second-tier' states to discuss the implementation of a military blockade on Israel from north, east, and south and support for such an action, including a military agreement between Syria and Pakistan. The report notes some confusion as to whether the war is supposed to start with a surprise attack by Syria aimed through the Golan, or whether, as Syria claims to believe, that Israel will pre-empt such an attack by striking at Syrian military facilities first. Either way, however, the report makes it clear that Syria's aim is not just to repel Israeli aggression. The report then launches into a detailed tactical account of recent Syrian and Iraqi troop movements, which it concludes rehearse and prepare for war with Israel, as well as noting Iran's intensified airlift of men and arms to Hizbullah bases in Southern Lebanon. ARAB NUCLEAR UMBRELLA The report is particularly shocking in its assessment of the risk of nuclear war in the region. This is what it says: "The nuclear factor has become a crucial element in any conflict in the Middle East. Iran has nuclear weapons, and so does Pakistan. The supreme leaders in Tehran are convinced that the numerous warheads purchased from the former Soviet Central Asia are operational. Irrespective of skeptic "expert opinion" in the West, they - the decision-makers in Tehran - operate on the basis of their own conviction that Iran has operational nuclear weapons. Moreover, there are indications of a Pakistani agreement, with Chinese consent, to "contribute" to the Muslim nuclear deterrence. And there is no doubt that Pakistan has operational nuclear weapons." "The Arabs have a well defined nuclear doctrine. Already in the late 1970s, the Syrians introduced the doctrinal tenet that since Israel cannot withstand even a few nuclear strikes while the Muslim World can prevail a massive nuclear attack of the magnitude attributed to Israel's capabilities, the nuclear factor is essentially irrelevant for as long as Arab leaders can hold their position in a strategic nuclear brinkmanship. While Tehran and Damascus are willing to gamble on such a brinkmanship, Jerusalem cannot afford to be wrong - Israel will not survive as a viable country in the aftermath of a strike with the few tactical nuclear warheads Iran has." This policy, says the report, neutralizes Israel's 'deterrence factor' for the initial period of the war. "Moreover, Washington will be most reluctant to commit American forces and assets under conditions of possible exposure to nuclear, chemical and biological weapons, particularly given the current Gulf Syndrome crisis. Hence, the Arabs and the Iranians can also deter an American cover for Israel." POSSIBLE WAR SCENARIO The resulting war scenario, according to the report, takes the following form: 1) A terrorist strike or other action by Hizbullah in South Lebanon, precipitating an Israeli counter-attack strong enough to claim the lives of Syrian troops. 2) A Syrian counter-attack coupled with a new PLO intifada tying down 50,000 troops. Further IDF troops to be tied down by Egyptian maneuvers in the south. 3) A surprise Syrian, Iraqi and Iranian surge resulting in the re-taking of the Golan heights. 4) A Saudi-led Arab oil boycott of the West - guaranteed by Prince Abdallah, who seizes power in Saudi Arabia. The aim of all this is to isolate Israel internationally, surround her militarily, and at the very least threaten annihilation unless Arab demands are met - doubtless including the surrender of Jerusalem. In the worst case, the combined Arab armies simply destroy Israel, relying on the oil boycott to prevent Western intervention. The report concludes that, while it is impossible to accurately predict the moods and decisions of men like Hafiz el-Assad or Saddam Hussein, it is clear that they all believe that a major crisis is now vital for their own survival. "One reason for the readiness to face war, as opposed to the reluctance shown previously, is the Muslim World's reading of Israel. Indeed, most senior leaders (especially in Damascus, Tehran, Baghdad and Cairo) are convinced that Israel is falling apart - collapsing from within in a unique state of self-confusion, of having lost the WILL to fight and survive. Hence, the current crisis is unfolding in the context of a historical window of opportunity to resolve the Zionist menace once and for good." says the report. It's final words: "However, there is no hard evidence, yet, of a specific decision to start something on a fixed date. Presently, the prevailing mood among the political, military and security elites in the Arab World is that of an almost passive, though willing, acceptance of fate's course. As the region continues to deteriorate towards an eruption of violence, they are waiting for the inevitable spark to emerge and "compel" them into taking action. Among the supreme leaders that really count, the "straw" seems to be still missing. But for how long?" **** Copyright (c) The MidEast Dispatch, 1997. The MidEast Dispatch is an independent news service, and is not affiliated with any political party or government agency. To subscribe to MED, please e-mail: majordomo@iipub.com with the words 'subscribe med' in the body of the message. To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@iipub.com with the phrase 'unsubscribe med' in the body of the message. If you have any questions, please write to: newsdesk@iipub.com or: The MidEast Dispatch 27 Heathway Court London NW3 7TS United Kingdom Tel: 44-181-458-6510 Fax: 44-181-455-8701 Jack Perrine | ATHENA Programming, Inc | 818-798-6574 | ---------------- | 1175 No. Altadena Drive | fax 398-8620 | jack@minerva.com | Pasadena, CA 91107 US | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: oyishea@teleport.com Subject: Re: IRC just died Date: 23 Jan 1997 10:24:51 -0800 At 01:58 PM 1/22/97 -0700, roc@xmission.com wrote: >Paul Mitchell clarifies infra: >So, you have been deceived, and you should >not file a Form 1040 on or before April 15. > >If the federal government owes you money, >send them an invoice on April 15 (or sooner). Right...send them an invoice? How does one do this? Has it ever successfully been done? Even if one can do this, it seems to me that this would be a fight better left unfought. > >What you need to do is "bill Clinton", >care of the U.S. Department of the Treasury :) > >This will fast become the new American >dance wave: do a "bill Clinton"!! > >Does that help? > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > >p.s. For the complete story, in full detail, >see "The Federal Zone: Cracking the Code >of Internal Revenue," electronic fifth edition, >available from Us for $25 cash or blank >U.S. Postal Money Order. > >=========================================================== >Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com >ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state >=========================================================== Richard William, Crouch Portland, Oregon None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe 1749-1832 ******************************************* "He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave." William Drummond 1585-1649 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Cut Off Handouts to the UN (fwd) Date: 23 Jan 1997 19:36:50 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- The Phyllis Schlafly Report -- Vol. 30, No. 6 * Box 618, Alton, Illinois 62002 * January 1997 -- Speak Up for Sovereignty and Patriotism! Cut Off Handouts to the UN The Clinton Administration is trying to bamboozle Congress to pony up a extra billion dollars in handouts to the United Nations. Congress should assert its appropriations authority and say no. The notion that we "owe" the UN $1.2 billion (some say $1.7 billion) in back assessments is ridiculous. For years, we've been paying 25% of the budget while being treated like a Third World nonentity. Sob stories about the UN's "financial crisis" deserve a belly laugh. The UN's cash shortage is caused by its corrupt and extravagant spending, not by a backsliding or penurious United States. The general annual UN budget has expanded from $20 million and 1,500 employees in 1945, to $10 billion and 50,000 employees today. Of this, U.S. taxpayers are contributing an estimated $4 billion a year. Although we have the power of the Security Council veto, for the most part the United States has played the role of just one vote among 185 in the General Assembly. The other countries even ganged up and voted the U.S. off of the Advisory Committee on Administrative and Budgetary Questions which makes up the UN budgets. The United States is assessed 25% of the UN's general budget, double that of any other nation. Japan is assessed 12.45%, the United Kingdom 8.93%, and more than 90 countries only 0.01% each. When he was Secretary General, Boutros Boutros-Ghali endorsed the notion that the UN should impose global taxes in order to relieve the UN of any accountability for contributions from its member nations. The first thing Madeleine Albright should do is demand that the new UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan, repudiate that impudent suggestion. In addition, the UN "peacekeeping" budget has expanded from $700 million in 1990 to $3.5 billion today. The UN assesses the United States 31.7% of the "peacekeeping" budget (U.S. law now limits us to 25%), compared with 8.5% for Russia, 6.3% for the United Kingdom, and 7.6% for France, all of whom have more direct interest in the various UN expeditions than we have. The Clinton Administration, having succeeded in dumping Boutros-Ghali, will now claim that we should pay our "peacekeeping arrears" so that we can demand fiscal reform. That puts the cart before the horse; if we fork over the cash first, we'll never get reform. The United States is the only country that really wants UN reform. Most of the others are not spending their own money, they are spending ours, and their overpaid UN representatives feel threatened by American ideas of fiscal integrity. The arrogant UN bureaucrats didn't even pay lip service to reform until Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-FL) introduced his bill called the United Nations Withdrawal Act. It would require the United States to withdraw from the UN by the year 2000. One of the best things President Reagan did was to pull the United States out of the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), which was the most corrupt UN agency. It would be great if Congress would immediately terminate all funding for a lot of other useless UN groups, particularly the UN Conference on Trade and Development and the UN Development Program. Congress has repeatedly tried to force the UN to impose fiscal discipline on itself, but all our efforts have failed. We shouldn't give the UN any more money until the UN makes major cuts in its colossal bureaucracy, which is now spread around 70 agencies doing mostly useless paper-pushing. For starters, Congress should reduce our contribution to 20 percent of the UN budget, and we should withhold all payments until the staff is reduced by at least 10 percent. That's the only language the UN understands. Even more important is dealing with UN mischief. Congress should expose the fakery of UN participation in "peacekeeping" expeditions to places where there is no peace to keep. Under Boutros-Ghali, UN "peacekeepers" were sent to intervene in civil wars and to carry out a nebulous new activity called nation-building. Of course, such projects are expensive and always involve more missions, more time, more risk, and more troops than anticipated. But the worst part is that they involve U.S. troops and U.S. risk in faraway places where we have no national security interest. Congress should make it clear that U.S. armed services are not UN policemen or a UN foreign legion, and will be sent only on missions required by the U.S. national interest and voted by Congress. Congress should reassert its constitutional authority over the U.S. armed services, making it clear that we will not engage in any UN military action disguised as "peacekeeping," that U.S. troops will never serve in UN uniform, or under UN command or UN rules of engagement, and that no U.S. ground troops will be committed for any UN enterprise. ------------------------------------------------- UN Treaties Are All Bad News President Clinton called a special news conference last month to announce that he finds it "an embarrassment" that the U.S. Senate has not ratified the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women. He said that, although 130 other nations have ratified this treaty, the United States hasn't, and "there is no excuse for this situation to continue." A treaty to enforce uniform rules for us and 130 other nations, under the supervision of UN busybody bureaucrats, could only diminish the rights and benefits now enjoyed by American women, who are the most fortunate class of people on the face of the earth. Ratification of this UN Treaty on Discrimination Against Women would be craven kowtowing to the radical feminists, exceeded only by its unlimited capacity for legal mischief. And it would be a massive interference with U.S. laws as well as with our federal-state balance of powers. Article 1 purports to abolish discrimination against women "in the political, economic, social, cultural, civil or any other field." Private relationships should be none of our government's business, much less the business of the United Nations. Article 2 reiterates that the treaty would "eliminate discrimination against women by any person, organization or enterprise," including "customs and practices." No human behavior is beyond the purview of this impudent UN document. The treaty would mandate the longtime feminist goal of total sexual integration in the military. It would turn over to the United Nations all decisions about military personnel, including the assignment of women to ground combat. Article 3 would require us to pass new federal laws not only in political but also in "social, economic and cultural fields." Article 5 would require us "to modify the social and cultural patterns of conduct of men and women" and to give assurances that we are following UN dictates about "family education." Article 10 would make it a federal responsibility to ensure "the elimination of any stereotyped concept of the roles of men and women at all levels and in all forms of education . . . by the revision of textbooks ... and teaching methods." Unable to persuade Americans voluntarily to go along with their censorship attempts, the feminists are trying to get the UN to do this job for them. Article 11 would chain us to the feminist goal that wages should be paid on subjective notions of "equal value" rather than on objective standards of equal work. It would also require the federal government to establish "a network of child-care facilities." Article 16 would require us to allow women "to decide freely and responsibly on the number and spacing of their children." In feminist theory, this means that the United States would have to allow abortions at any time for any reason. On the other hand, this language does not protect Chinese women victimized by their government's policy of forced abortions. China takes the position that it is not "responsible" for a woman to bear more than one child. Article 16 also levels a broadside attack on states' rights. It would obligate the federal government to take over all family law, including marriage, divorce, child custody, and property. To monitor the "progress" made under this treaty, Article 17 sets up a Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women consisting of 23 "experts." No doubt that means "experts" in feminist ideology, probably as certified by Hillary Rodham Clinton and/or Bella Abzug. The State Department memo that explains the treaty, which was written by the late Edmund S. Muskie, candidly admits that it applies "to private organizations and areas of personal conduct not covered by U.S. law." It also admits that the treaty completely fails to take into account "the division of authority between the state and federal governments in the United States." President Jimmy Carter signed this terrible treaty in 1980, and ever since the Senate has had the good judgment to refuse to ratify it. We trust the Senate will retain its sanity on this issue, despite Mr. Clinton's embarrassment. (More information about this UN Treaty is available in the Phyllis Schlafly Report of September 1990.) -------------------------------------------------- Another Bad Treaty: Chemical Weapons The U.S. Senate showed good judgment last year in refusing to ratify the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), a treaty that purports to ban chemical weapons and forbid their production, stockpiling, and use. Contrary to its announced purpose, this foolish treaty would increase, not eliminate, the risk of chemical weapons use, and would seriously damage U.S. national security interests. The Senate should continue to reject this bad treaty. Bad guys are deterred by force, the threat of force, or by their cold calculation that the costs of evil behavior are not worth the risk. Many dangerous countries, such as Libya, Syria, Iraq and North Korea, have not signed the CWC and would not be deterred by pieces of paper. China and Iran, which have significant chemical weapons programs, are unlikely to comply. Of particular concern is Russia, which has the largest arsenal of chemical weapons; the actions and statements of its military leaders confirm that Russia would not comply at all. Even though the CWC would not rid the world of chemical weapons, it would impose a terrible regulatory and reporting burden on every U.S. company that produces, processes, or consumes a scheduled chemical. The CWC would affect U.S. firms that make dyes and pigments, insecticides, pharmaceuticals, ceramics, nylon, paint and varnish, electronics, textiles, and soap and detergent. The Arms Control and Disarmament Agency estimates that 2,175 U.S. companies would be saddled with reporting requirements and data declarations; others estimate that the burden will fall on 10,000 U.S. production facilities. This time-consuming reporting could, in turn, produce additional government oversight and regulation by agencies such as OSHA, EPA, and IRS. No previous treaty has ever subjected U.S. private industry to international inspection. CWC is the New World Order closing in on American business. The process of allowing teams of foreigners to investigate, inspect and challenge all facets of private U.S. businesses could open them up to industrial espionage and the theft of their proprietary information. Forcing them to spend unnecessary funds to hire more people to fill out more government forms, and submit to routine inspections, would reduce their ability to compete in world markets. Of course, the CWC would give birth to a new international bureaucracy. The Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons is already headquartered in The Hague with a Conference of State Parties, an Executive Council, and a Technical Secretariat with a hundred pages of verification responsibilities. Every time we hear trendy slogans such as "global village," "world economy," or "international cooperation," Americans should remember that other nations have no familiarity with or understanding of our Bill of Rights or our federal structure of government with separate state laws. Treaties are customarily written as though all power to make and fulfill international commitments resides in the head of state who signs the document. If the CWC goes into effect, what happens to our Fourth Amendment rights? The CWC's Technical Secretariat, without a warrant, would be empowered to inspect virtually everything within the premises, including records, files, papers, processes, controls, structures and vehicles, and to interrogate on-site personnel. Under CWC, what happens to our First Amendment rights? Freedom of Information requests would not be permitted under the proposed CWC implementing legislation, so Americans would have fewer rights under this treaty than if a U.S. agency, such as the FBI, investigated them. The CWC is unverifiable and unenforceable. Former CIA Director James Woolsey testified on June 23, 1994 that "the chemical weapons problem is so difficult from an intelligence perspective, that I cannot state that we have high confidence in our ability to detect noncompliance, especially on a small scale." In closed societies, factories making fertilizer, pharmaceuticals, or plastics can easily cover up their production of chemical weapons. After receiving notification of a challenge, a facility has six days to hide the evidence before inspectors are admitted. Small amounts of concealed chemical weapons can be militarily very significant. Used against critical military targets, chemical weapons can have dramatic consequences. To paraphrase a popular bumper strip, when chemical weapons are outlawed, only outlaw governments will have chemical weapons. Our World War II experience shows that the best way for civilized countries to prevent the use of chemical weapons is for the good guys to have their own deterrent arsenals of chemical weapons. ----------------------------------------------------- Alger Hiss Fallout on Politics The 1950 conviction of Alger Hiss for perjury in denying that he was a Communist spy was a seminal event in American politics. It is difficult to name any other trial that had such a widespread effect on American politics, even including the convictions of atomic bomb spies Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Alger Hiss was the quintessential Establishment Man: Harvard Law School, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, erudite, good looking and perfectly tailored, with a glorious resume and fervent testimonials from everyone who was important. His social friends did not suspect, indeed found it incredible, that Hiss could have been a Jekyll-and-Hyde double persona, living half his life underground where he carried out traitorous missions. When the facts were spread on the table, one of his friends told me in shock, "If Alger could be a Communist, anyone could be." Indeed, anyone could. In those years, many people who had as elegant an image as Hiss were secret Communists. The handsome husband of my best friend in college turned out to be a secret Communist, a fact which my friend learned only when the FBI told her after the Party ordered the husband to get a divorce and marry a Party member. Good looking men and women leading double lives held jobs throughout the Roosevelt and Truman Administrations in the 1930s and 1940s. When the House Committee on Un-American Activities exposed this Communist virus, the liberals in and out of government, especially in the media, counterattacked against the anti-Communists with a frightening ferocity. The culpability of the liberals in standing cheek-to-jowl with the Communists was summed up by the founder and first chairman of the House Committee on Un-American Activities, Martin Dies, in his book Martin Dies' Story. He wrote: "Without exception, year in and year out, the American Liberals have defended, protected, encouraged, and aided the Communists, both in the United States and abroad." Dies said that there is a "sympathetic tie between the ultra-liberals and the Communists. Actually, the ultra-liberals have always been socialists at heart." Because the Rooseveltian liberals were soulmates with the socialists and Communists, they closed ranks to defend Alger Hiss, and continued to defend him year after year, even after he exhausted his appeals and spent four years in prison, and even after all subsequent revelations confirmed his guilt beyond quibble. On the other hand, Hiss's conviction proved that treachery and subversion were real, and, to the anti-Communists, America's honor was at stake. Alger Hiss wasn't merely a middle-level bureaucrat who turned over classified documents to the Soviet espionage network. He was the number-two man in Franklin D. Roosevelt's State Department and a key player in our foreign policy and relations with the Soviet Union. Hiss was the principal author of the United Nations Charter, which was drafted at the Dumbarton Oaks Conference. Hiss presided as the UN's first Secretary General at the San Francisco Conference in April 1945, where we learned that a secret agreement had been made at the Yalta Conference the preceding February, giving the Soviet Union three votes in the UN, while every other nation has only one. Poland, the first country to resist Hitler and supposedly the reason why the West entered World War II, was barred from the UN until the legitimate anti-Communist government of Mikolajczyk was replaced by Communist stooges from Moscow. As this was not accomplished until the fall of 1945, Poland's seat was empty in San Francisco. At the Yalta Conference, Alger Hiss had been the chief aide to Secretary of State Edward Stettinius. In the telephone system set up for the U.S. delegation, Roosevelt was #1, Stettinius #2, and Hiss #3, and Hiss's hovering presence is apparent from the news photographs. Most of the obituaries on Alger Hiss since his death on November 15 were encrusted with layers of liberal bias. The New York Times headlined the event as "Alger Hiss, Divisive Icon of Cold War, Dies at 92." That headline is misleading. Alger Hiss was an icon of the liberals in their war against the anti-Communists. He was the personification of the Communist chic which patriots believed should be removed from our government. The definitive account of the Alger Hiss story was written by Allen Weinstein in 1978. He started out as a liberal determined to prove Hiss's innocence by getting access to documents under the Freedom of Information Act. The documents convinced Weinstein that Hiss was guilty, so he entitled his book Perjury. Hiss's guilt was reconfirmed in 1993 by the release of the files of the Interior Ministry in Budapest, and again in 1996 by the release of the Venona papers. The Venona papers are hundreds of messages sent by Soviet agents between Washington and Moscow which had been decrypted and translated by our National Security Agency. The Alger Hiss story proves that traitors made policy at the highest levels in our government during the 1930s and 1940s. The Alger Hiss story validates the courageous battle waged by anti-Communists to rout traitors out of our government. http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/1997/jan97/psrjan97.html -- ====================================================================== Lyle Yarnell The 2nd Amendment: Speak now, and forever hold your piece. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Copyrighted material contained within this document is used in | | compliance with the United States Code, Title 17, Section 107, | | "for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching" | --------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: NRA Shakeup Date: 23 Jan 1997 20:44:19 -0800 (PST) The Washington Times on 1/23/97 ran an article that everyone should be very interested in seeing. Its time for all of us to let our voices be known to our elected representatives. This means writing or faxing NRA headquarters. QUOTE: The National Rifle Association faces an internal battle early next month, National Journal reports. "Neil Knox, a long time board member and first Vice President of the NRA who was briefly the group's top lobbyist in the early 1980's, has been quietly plotting against executive director Wayne R. LaPierre Jr." the magazine reports, citing two anonymous NRA sources. "A showdown could come in early February, when a few changes in NRA bylaws - including one that would allow a simple majority of the board to approve terminating officers of the group before their tenures expire - are slated to be voted on by the board." Besides trying to topple Mr. LaPierre, whose term is up in May, "Knox may also try to remove Tanya K. Metaksa, the NRA's chief lobbyist," the magazine said. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: Re: NRA Shakeup Date: 24 Jan 1997 00:00:59 -0500 (EST) On Thu, 23 Jan 1997 jaspar@cogent.net wrote: > The Washington Times on 1/23/97 ran an article that everyone > should be very interested in seeing. Its time for all of us > to let our voices be known to our elected representatives. > This means writing or faxing NRA headquarters. > > Besides trying to topple Mr. LaPierre, whose term is up in May, > "Knox may also try to remove Tanya K. Metaksa, the NRA's chief > lobbyist," the magazine said. > > Is there anybody out there who truely understands what is going on on Waples Mill Rd? I sure would enjoy being enlightened. bd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: (fwd)ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA Date: 24 Jan 1997 07:51:46 -0500 This is a joke, right? >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:49:21 -0500 >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >Subject: ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA > >Special thanx to William (The Hillbilly) Beeler , >for forwarding this. > >I keep telling myself this must be a spoof, as it is the most inane >piece of supposed research I've seen of late... > >Check out the Acknowledgements, which are of no great surprise. >==================================================================== > > > A CLINICAL ANALYSIS OF ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA > > Ivor E. Tower, M.D. > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry > Volume 11, series 3, pages 4-5 > > > Abstract > >This study conclusively demonstrates that unfounded fear of >government is a recognizable mental illness, closely related to >paranoid schizophrenia. Anti-Government Phobia (AGP) differs from >most mental illnesses, however, in that it is highly infectious and >has an acute onset. Symptoms include extreme suspiciousness, >conspiracy-mongering, delusional thought patterns, staunch "us >against them" mentality, withdrawal from reality, and often >religious fanaticism. Having the patient committed to a qualified >mental health institution is the best option for family and loved >ones. For this reason, all psychiatrists and family physicians >should be provided with educational materials which will help them >recognize the various symptoms and warning signs accompanying >onset. Since comparitively little is known about Anti-Government >Phobia at the present time, a government-funded health commission >should be set up to oversee, and help focus, future research. > > > Incidence and Etiology > >Anti-Government Phobia has a worldwide distribution, but has a >particularly high incidence in the United States. Infection rates >are estimated by mental health officials to be about 5% of the >general population, and this rate is growing at an alarming rate. >Rates are highest, but not limited to, those who are disaffected in >some fashion, especially those who have a strong personal grudge >against the federal government for one reason or another. > >Although certain varients of the illness have been around for many >years, it is only in the last decade or so that the more virulent >and infectious strains have appeared. This is most likely due to >the rapid buildup of government, at all levels, during the 1980's. >Closely paralling this trend was an explosion in the number of >cases in which individuals were diagnosed as having unfounded fears >concerning such. > > > Clinical Manifestations and Diagnosis > >Anti-Government Phobia is marked by extreme suspiciousness toward >government. Onset is acute. Symptoms start almost immediately after >a run-in with some agency or institution of the government, or when >the patient is introduced to anti-government propaganda, in one >form or another, by a self-styled "patriot." Common ways in which >this harmful, anti-government propaganda is spread include: books, >pamphlets, magazines, newspapers, audiotapes, videotapes, shortwave >and conventional radio programs, computer bulletin boards, and >various Internet sites. > >Upon exposure to "patriotic" propaganda, the patient mysteriously >begins to imagine hidden links between unrelated current events, >weaving these gross distortions of reality into a complex >delusional web; a labyrinth of conspiracy theories with all >imagined clues leading straight to the federal government. With >further exposure, the patient becomes increasingly paranoid, and >slowly withdrawals from reality. However, mental deterioration is >usually so gradual that the patient is often unaware of it. > >This mysterious malady progresses until the patient invariably >assumes a staunch "us against them" mentality. For instance, in the >patient's warped mind-set, each new piece of gun-control >legislation is oddly rationalized to be merely one additional step >in an ultimate plot by the federal government to confiscate guns >altogether. In some unusually severe cases, the patient assumes a >survivalist mentality, stockpiling guns, ammunition, de-hydrated >food, and other "essentials," in preparation for "D-Day" or >"Armageddon." > >At this stage, the patient also inexplicity experiences increased >delusional thinking. For instance, he may start fallaciously >believing that the Federal Reserve is not in fact part of the >federal government, but is instead controlled by wealthy Zionists. >Other far-flung delusions may involve the United Nations, "black >helicopters," concentration camps, or the Council on Foreign >Relations (CFR). Delusions involving "takeovers" by foreign >military troops, or jack-booted government stormtroopers dressed in >all black, are also commonly diagnosed. > >Anti-Government Phobia is often associated with religious >fanaticism. An excellent example of this is the infamous Branch >Davidian case, in which most cult members preferred a fiery suicide >over peaceful surrender to the forces of what they considered to be >"Mystery Babylon." There have been other prominant cases in which >"patriots" have became involved with terrorist activity, >fallaciously believing that they were somehow doing the "will of >God." More commonly, "patriots" have been involved in aggressive >outbursts in courtrooms, and other public places such as town-hall >meetings. > >Overall, the worldview eventually adopted by "patriots" interprets >modern-day news events as pieces of a giant jig-saw puzzle. Oddly, >they believe that it is their solemn duty to put these unrelated >pieces together in order to discover the underlying "picture." The >warped interpretive framework used by many "patriots" in their >missionary-like endeavor of saving the lost "sheeple" (derogatory >term comparing non-patriots to lost sheep) is a hyper-literal >interpretation of Biblical prophecies, particularly those contained >in the book of Revelation. > > > Spread of the Illness > >In the eyes of the so-called "patriots," the relentless drive to >indoctrinate others with extremist political beliefs is seen as a >righteous and compulsory act to save their "self-destructing" >nation. Wildly fantasizing that America can somehow turn back the >clock to better times, which in reality never existed, many >"patriots" feel obligated to quote constantly from the Declaration >of Independence, United States Constitution, Bill of Rights, and >the writings of the Founding Fathers. In an ironic twist of fate, >when "patriots" expose others to their divisive anti-government >propaganda, through their misguided efforts to restore "individual >liberty," they are actually infecting them with an extremely >contagious mental illness. > >A strong analogy can be drawn between "patriotic" indoctrination >and patterns of religious conversion. In both cases, >ultra-idealistic individuals believe that it is their solemn duty >to gain proselytes for their particular faith. This is usually done >on a person-to-person basis with a friend or acquaintance. To keep >new converts from going astray or "backsliding," they are eagerly >provided with a steady stream of propaganda. In each case, the >devotee imagines that there is an evil, sinister force which must >be opposed at all costs. In the case of various religions, the >faithful are supposedly rewarded in the afterlife for sparring with >the "devil." In the case of the "patriot," the so-called "New World >Order" is viewed as the demonic bogeyman, with the reward for >opposing it supposedly being an increased amount of "personal >freedom." In both "patriotic" and religious circles, there is an >entire counter-culture, centering around various anthems and holy >books, constantly being promoted by prophets, preachers, and >paranoid propagandists of all creeds, colors, and strains. > > > Prevention > >Needless to say, prevention is the first line of defense against >any type of illness or disease. Unfortunately, many mental >illnesses are genetic in nature and thus can not be prevented. >Fortunately, Anti-Government Phobia is non-genetic and thus wholly >preventable. From an individual standpoint, the most effective >prevention policy is obviously not to allow oneself to become >indoctrinated by a self-styled "patriot," preferably by staying as >far as possible away from any potentially divisive propaganda. As >an added precaution, one should rely exclusively on well-known and >reputable sources for news and other information. > >Family members and loved ones can help out in this effort. However, >it should be noted that prevention programs work best only when the >entire community is involved. We all need to practice constant >vigilance in order to spot diviseness and hate in our communities. >In this regard, networking is the ultimate key to success. A >successful community-based empowerment program would include the >following elements: citizen-citizen networks, police-citizen >networks, parent-teacher networks, pastor-parisoner networks, >doctor-patient networks, state-local law enforcement authority >networks, and federal-state law enforcement authority networks. > > > Treatment and Prognosis > >Although the prognosis is generally good if the illness is treated >soon after symptoms first appear, studies have shown that a >disturbingly low percentage of patients allow themselves to be >treated. Thus, having the patient committed to a qualified mental >health institution is the best option for family and loved ones. >For this reason, all psychiatrists and family physicians should be >provided with educational materials which will help them recognize >the various symptoms and warning signs accompaning onset. Once the >illness is properly diagnosed, they should next notify the >patient's immediate family members and discuss the various treament >options with them. This effort should be reinforced with extensive >public ad campaigns promoting a 1-800 help line. Since >comparitively little is known about Anti-Government Phobia at the >present time, a government-funded health commission should be set >up to oversee, and help focus, future research. > >It can not be over-emphasized that prevention is the key to >stopping the spread of Anti-Government Phobia. Once a person is >infected, the illness is generally incurable. The only proven >treatment is an extended, and often risky, "de-programming" session >conducted by qualified professionals, such as the Cult Awareness >Network (CAN). Left untreated, chronic symptoms invariably persist >throughout the entire lifetime of the patient. Sadly, even the >patients themselves realize this horrifying fact and surprisingly, >seem apathetic to it. Oddly, they often confuse their symptoms with >being "awake." For instance, they have been known to garble >gibberish such as "once your awake, you can't go back to sleep." >Further research is presently being conducted on the reasons why >they rationalize their mental illness in this highly unusual >manner. > > > Acknowledgements > >The writer wishes to thank the following individuals and >organizations for contributing their expertise to this report: >Morris Dees of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), Rick Ross of >the Cult Awareness Network (CAN), the United States Justice >Department (USJD), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and >the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (BATF). This study was >funded by a grant from the National Institutes of Health (NIH). > >=========================================================== >J.J. & Helen Johnson - Fridays - 8:00 pm EST - WWCR 5.070 Mhz >E Pluribus Unum >P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 >Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 >Web Site - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html >"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 > > > "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Test Date: 24 Jan 1997 05:35:17 PST Tasting, tasting, one, two, three, tasting. This has been a taste, _only_ a taste. Did the ROC server die, or what? -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: The Top 16 Things Overheard at the Inauguration Date: 24 Jan 1997 07:35:58 -0700 (MST) [lafink iz permitted now, yah, but only fur zuh next 30 zeconds] >> From: "John E. Morris -- The American Lawyer - New York" >> >> >> The Top 16 Things Overheard at the Presidential Inauguration >> >> 16> "Would you like fries with that, Mr. President?" >> >> 15> "You have the right to remain silent, Sir ...." >> >> 14> "Hillary, tell *your* daughter to quit throwing peas at >> the Gores." >> >> 13> "Are you practicing your pocket veto, or are you just >> happy to see me?" >> >> 12> "No, Ms. Reno, I don't want to arm-wrestle." >> >> 11> "I don't CARE what the other presidents did -- I want >> mine on velvet!" >> >> 10> "Twenty bucks says he bursts into flames the second his >> hand touches that bible!" >> >> 9> "If the President wants Mayor McCheese to give a speech, >> Mayor McCheese gives a speech." >> >> 8> "Uh, Senator Kennedy, sir, that's Paula Jones you're >> hitting on." >> >> 7> "Unit 6, this is Unit 10. We have the suspect in custody >> -- he identifies himself as a Mr. Limbaugh. Says the >> pistol's on loan from God." >> >> 6> "Subpoenas! Get yer official '97 Inauguration Souvenir >> Subpoenas here!" >> >> 5> "So, for $500,000, I get front-row seats, the complimentary >> dim sum, AND the cabinet position?" >> >> 4> "False alarm! Please calm down, everyone! The President >> was not shot -- it was just Michael Bolton." >> >> 3> "No, that's not the Al Gore Memorial -- that's actually Al >> Gore." >> >> 2> "Say, those don't look like the waiters we originally >> hired." >> >> And the Number 1 Thing Overheard at the Presidential >> Inauguration... >> >> 1> "What the -- Stop him! He's taking the oath from a >> Domino's pizza guy!" >> >> [ This list copyright 1997 by Chris White and Ziff-Davis ] >> [ *To forward or repost, please include this section.* ] >> [ The Top Five List top5@walrus.com www.topfive.com ] =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. email: ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85719/tdc =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Ferris Subject: "The Clintoner" (With Apologies to The Singer of "The Wanderer") Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:27:47 -0500 (EST) THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE Well, I'm the kind of Prez who likes to fool around, I've got a closet bimbo in almost every U.S. town, And when Paula Jones alleges, "Why, Willie, you're to blame!", I run for Air Force One, where Carville's hiding on the plane, They call me The Clintoner, The Clintoner, I fool around, around, around, around, around, around, around. Yes, I'm the type of Prez who panders to the people, Americans, they're all stupid, they're not human, they're just sheeple, I kiss the ones who love me, be they women or be they men, Then I hop right back in my hot tub with a nubile wench named Jen, They call me The Clintoner, The Clintoner, I fool around, around, around, around, around, around, around. Well, I'm the kind of Prez who fears Americans' guns, Someday soon, I'll take 'em when I've finished chasing buns, I'll cut guns into pieces with a handy dandy torch, Then I'll run right back to Gerta on the Serta on the porch, They call me The Clintoner, The Clintoner, I fool around, around, around, around, around, around, around. Well, I'm the type of Prez to send your sons off to Rwanda, Don't bug me 'bout Zaire, when I'm sacked out with Yolonda, Yes, I'm a tired leader, 'cause I'm chasing lots of girls, Send me your daughter's number, and I'll give your kid a whirl, They call me The Clintoner, The Clintoner, I fool around, around, around, around, around, around, around. Now Albright is my SecState and Bill Cohen my SecDef, But I'm more concerned with parcels from both Larry Flynt and Hef, Folks, "Hustler" is my first read, yes, before the D.C. POST, I like to ogle sweet young things while nibbling breakfast toast, 'Cause I'm The Clintoner, The Clintoner, I fool around, around, around, around, around, around, around. Some say I have a problem and that it's deep within my Hanes, That, as Prez, I shouldn't drop 'em, and say, "Paula, feel my pain!", Some say I have no honor, but my friends, that's just a lie, I'm "on her", that's my m.o., heck, I'm a bimbo chasing guy, Yes, I'm The Clintoner, The Clintoner, I fool around, around, around, around, around, around, around. THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE Christopher C. Ferris Litchfield NH ferriscc@mainstream.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Re: (fwd)ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA Date: 24 Jan 1997 07:02:55 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Tom Cloyes wrote: > This is a joke, right? > > >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) > >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:49:21 -0500 > >To: eplurib@megalinx.net > >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) > >Subject: ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA > > > >Special thanx to William (The Hillbilly) Beeler , > >for forwarding this. > > > >I keep telling myself this must be a spoof, as it is the most inane > >piece of supposed research I've seen of late... > > > >Check out the Acknowledgements, which are of no great surprise. > >==================================================================== > > > > > > A CLINICAL ANALYSIS OF ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA > > > > Ivor E. Tower, M.D. > > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry > > Volume 11, series 3, pages 4-5 > > > > > > Abstract > > > >This study conclusively demonstrates that unfounded fear of > >government is a recognizable mental illness, closely related to > >paranoid schizophrenia. Anti-Government Phobia (AGP) differs from > >most mental illnesses, however, in that it is highly infectious and > >has an acute onset. Symptoms include extreme suspiciousness, > >conspiracy-mongering, delusional thought patterns, staunch "us > >against them" mentality, withdrawal from reality, and often > >religious fanaticism. My reaction would be to consider this a joke if it weren't for the fact that the discription of the disease and its symptoms and effects didn't describe a number of my local associates - perfectly. They are wrong on the cure though. The disease (and I agree it is just that) won't go away until liberalism is dead and fedgov power and influence are reduced to the point that little people have no reason to feel threatened by it. Might be better to call this "big government syndrome." Skip. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: NRA Shakeup Date: 24 Jan 1997 08:04:24 -0800 (PST) And I've got two annonymous sources who say that if you send me more then $100US you will be stupendously rewarded in Heaven. (Void where taxed or prohibited, it's a joke for God's sake!) So don't delay, send that mail in today! -Boyd, a unit of Boyd Enterprises. On Thu, 23 Jan 1997 jaspar@cogent.net wrote: > The Washington Times on 1/23/97 ran an article that everyone > should be very interested in seeing. Its time for all of us > to let our voices be known to our elected representatives. > This means writing or faxing NRA headquarters. > > QUOTE: > > The National Rifle Association faces an internal battle early > next month, National Journal reports. > > "Neil Knox, a long time board member and first Vice President of > the NRA who was briefly the group's top lobbyist in the early > 1980's, has been quietly plotting against executive director > Wayne R. LaPierre Jr." the magazine reports, citing two > anonymous NRA sources. > > "A showdown could come in early February, when a few changes > in NRA bylaws - including one that would allow a simple majority > of the board to approve terminating officers of the group before > their tenures expire - are slated to be voted on by the board." > > Besides trying to topple Mr. LaPierre, whose term is up in May, > "Knox may also try to remove Tanya K. Metaksa, the NRA's chief > lobbyist," the magazine said. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: NRA Shakeup Date: 24 Jan 1997 08:42:16 -0800 (PST) Ok, the yokes over. We know that organizations that work for our political opponents have a decades long history of monkeywrenching, infiltration and illegal "dirty tricks" (watergate, cointelpro etc). This is verifiable fact, lets move on from that basis. So, when you see "annonymous sources" saying controversial things that -only- serves to point out that someone is being controversial. Now, there certainly are lots of reasons to be controversial. Maybe (like me) you led a timid childhood and are trying to (not like me) get surplus attention now. Media sources have obvious motivations (money). If you're an unethical political opponent, there are several well known propaganda techniques that involve this kind of attention grabbing. A -lot- of you really go for this last one, and you miss the point. The point here is that we cannot know which of these motivations (or possibly others) drive "communication"s like this. Unless you're leading the cell of propagandists, or selling the adspace or your name is Neil Knox you -do-not-know- what is going on here or why this speculation is made. What we can know is that, of the plethora of motivations possible for speculating like this only -one- of them includes anything like disseminating truth. So, if you spend a lot of time wondering and typing and just angsting about not knowing, have you spent that time restoring our constitutional republic? -Boyd Kneeland The opinions expressed are mine alone. On Thu, 23 Jan 1997 jaspar@cogent.net wrote: > The Washington Times on 1/23/97 ran an article that everyone > should be very interested in seeing. Its time for all of us > to let our voices be known to our elected representatives. > This means writing or faxing NRA headquarters. > > QUOTE: > > The National Rifle Association faces an internal battle early > next month, National Journal reports. > > "Neil Knox, a long time board member and first Vice President of > the NRA who was briefly the group's top lobbyist in the early > 1980's, has been quietly plotting against executive director > Wayne R. LaPierre Jr." the magazine reports, citing two > anonymous NRA sources. > > "A showdown could come in early February, when a few changes > in NRA bylaws - including one that would allow a simple majority > of the board to approve terminating officers of the group before > their tenures expire - are slated to be voted on by the board." > > Besides trying to topple Mr. LaPierre, whose term is up in May, > "Knox may also try to remove Tanya K. Metaksa, the NRA's chief > lobbyist," the magazine said. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Patricia Fosness Subject: Re: (fwd)ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA Date: 24 Jan 1997 11:05:40 -0700 >This is a joke, right? Has to be. It doesn't "conclusively demonstrate" anything. If I'd turned in an undocumented piece of allegation like this in grad school, I'd have failed the course. >>X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:49:21 -0500 >>To: eplurib@megalinx.net >>From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >>Subject: ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA >> >>Special thanx to William (The Hillbilly) Beeler , >>for forwarding this. >> >>I keep telling myself this must be a spoof, as it is the most inane >>piece of supposed research I've seen of late... >> >>Check out the Acknowledgements, which are of no great surprise. >>==================================================================== >> >> >> A CLINICAL ANALYSIS OF ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA >> >> Ivor E. Tower, M.D. >> Journal of Clinical Psychiatry >> Volume 11, series 3, pages 4-5 >> >> >> Abstract >> >>This study conclusively demonstrates that unfounded fear of >>government is a recognizable mental illness, closely related to >>paranoid schizophrenia. Anti-Government Phobia (AGP) differs from >>most mental illnesses, however, in that it is highly infectious and >>has an acute onset. Symptoms include extreme suspiciousness, >>conspiracy-mongering, delusional thought patterns, staunch "us >>against them" mentality, withdrawal from reality, and often >>religious fanaticism. Having the patient committed to a qualified >>mental health institution is the best option for family and loved >>ones. For this reason, all psychiatrists and family physicians >>should be provided with educational materials which will help them >>recognize the various symptoms and warning signs accompanying >>onset. Since comparitively little is known about Anti-Government >>Phobia at the present time, a government-funded health commission >>should be set up to oversee, and help focus, future research. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: wootan@dmi.net Subject: Re: (fwd)ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:12:12 -0800 Just keep in mind that in Viet Nam we used to say, "I may be paranoid, but that does NOT mean nobody is shooting at me!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Holder Subject: Fwd: Is it too late for a peaceful revolution? Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:17:00 -0800 Forwarded from ca-firearms for your consideration -- KLH ----------------------- begin forward --------------------------- Hello, Don Baldwin here (baldwins42@prodigy.net). I'm looking for opinions on this essay, which I'm in the process of revising. Thanks! Don > =============================================================== > Is it too late for a peaceful revolution? > By: Don Baldwin > > _Purpose_ > > The purpose of this article is to make an argument for the case that > the tide of overreaching government power in the USA absolutely must > be turned back. I will then examine the question of whether this > change can be wrought through peaceful means and what some of those > means might be. > > _Lost Rights_ > > I recommend that anybody with an interest in at least some civil > liberties read the book "Lost Rights: The Destruction of American > Liberty", by James Bovard. I also recommend that, before reading > this disturbing tome, the reader prepare to experience a frightening > picture of the power of our government to destroy the lives of its > citizens and the maddeningly arbitrary way in which that power is > abused. > If I may take the liberty of summarizing this book in a > nutshell, I would do so by saying this: our local, state and > federal governments presently believe that they may kill any > American with impunity, confiscate any amount of property (from a > $20 to a house and land) that they choose by lying about their > motives for doing so and, in dozens of other ways, interfere > with our lives in any way that they so choose. Bovard summarizes > this situation with greater clarity than I could ever hope to attain > and I strongly urge the reader to buy this book at their earliest > opportunity. > At the same time, while they vastly increase the number of laws > we must be sure not to break in our daily lives, they themselves are > holding their legal bounds and the laws that govern THEM in complete > contempt. For example, many cities and counties in California are > presently passing laws arbitrarily banning "junk guns" or "Saturday > night specials". While the excuse being given for passing these > laws is that the junk guns are unsafe, they usually > specifically excempt law enforcement officers from their provisions. > This clearly illustrates that these laws are aimed at reducing > opportunities for gun ownership (since these guns dominate the > affordable end of the firearms spectrum) and that the stated purpose > for their enactment is a lie. > Furthermore, not only do these laws undermine our faith in > government by undermining our belief in its honesty, they also > violate California's firearms preemption law, which says that > some sections of the state may not enact stricter laws than those > enacted at the state level. Representatives working to enact these > laws do so in knowing violation of the law and California's Attorney > General is aiding and abetting this illegality by declining to > enforce California's preemption law. > How can any reasonably intelligent politician expect citizens to > hold the law in proper regard, when they themselves should it in > such contempt? Surely they are underlining their state governments > moral authority and legitimacy. > > _More current events_ > > Today is Thursday, 1/16/1997. Early this afternoon, I was > informed by friends on the Internet that several bombs were used > in attacks on womens' health clinics in Atlanta. I have not > listened to any news yet today but I have no doubt that President > Clinton is poised to use this criminal act to his own advantage, > rather than seeking to punish the guilty. After other terrorist > acts, Clinton rushed to propose laws that would adversely affect > gun owners (by rendering the ownership of ammunition physically > dangerous through the addition of "taggants") and to increase the > already fearsome of the government to use wiretaps and spy on their citizens. > I wonder if Clinton is enjoying the fact that he will now have > another opportunity to take a whack at law-abiding gun owners around > the time for his inauguration? > > _What I want to see happen in my lifetime_ > > In a nutshell, I do not want to change our form of government: > I want to make it honest to its ideological foundations. I want to > see government reattached to the chains that formerly bound it but > which have slipped off and let it run amok. I want to see my fellow > citizens force government back into its corner and exercise their > rights freely....and responsibly. I would say that these rights > should be considered to include all elements of the Bill of Rights > and other freedom recognitions added since that time (e.g., universal > suffrage and equal freedom for all people). I would like to see it > expanded to include rights such as abortion and to have rights such > as responsible gun ownership respected at all levels. > > _What I fear_ > > As I noted under in the section _Lost Rights_, above our > governments are now able to confiscate any amount of property and > kill citizens without any fear of the consequences that would > accompany those acts, if committed by a civilian. I fear that this > trend will grow even worse during my lifetime, with more > irresponsible killings and more people financially ruined by the > theft of the fruit of their labors. > I fear that many levels of government will follow California's > example and enact illegal laws and that our precious Bill of Rights > will be rendered null and void. The Right will do this by using > the password of "Drugs" to eliminate any right that they feel is > excessive or unimportant, such as the 4th amendment. The Left will > continue using "Guns" and 'Terrorism" to chip away at our 2nd > amendment rights and our right to privacy and due process. > But what really scares me...what keeps me awake sometime > sweating and staring at the ceiling... is the way Americans will > eventually respond to these transgressions. Americans are patient > in trying circumstances and still have a strong community spirit, > but we collectively have little respect for lies and cheating...or > bullies. I fear that some day a drug enforcement agent will pick > the wrong person to ruin financially (via civil forfeiture or no > knock raid) and then come home to find his own home burned to the > ground. I fear that someone like Lon Horiuchi (who shot Vicki Weaver > in the head as she stood unarmed and holding an infant at Ruby Ridge) > will thoughtlessly and arrogantly take the life of citizen and > then meet a horrifying demise after many long years of looking over > his shoulder. I fear what might happen to a judge who arrogantly > continues to rubber-stamp the reduction of our rights or a > politician who seeks to legislate them out of existence. > I worry that these acts of retribution might lead to further > government interference in our lives but what keeps me up at night > is the thought of how we might chew up and spit out this form of > government, should it continue its arrogant indifference to the > virtues it claims to be protecting. > And I worry about what might replace it. > > _A Peaceful Second American Revolution?_ > > When I use the term Second American Revolution, it is a bit > misleading. Aside from the revolution which won our freedom (and > recognition for our rights) from Great Britain, one might consider > that we have already had a second revolution, here in the US. I am > speaking about the civil rights struggle of the 1960s. > Was this revolution peaceful? Largely it was, although > certainly wasn't completely non-violent. Black people were beaten, > tortured and killed. So were some civil rights workers who went to > the South to aid in the struggle. Urban riots during the era cost > numerous lives. Still, for what probably amounted to a low grade > civil war, the cost in lives was relatively low. Here I will > examine some possible reasons for the success of that revolution and > look for ways in which their lessons may be applied to today's > problems. > When most people think about the civil rights movement, they > probably think solely (or largely) of the contributions of Martin > Luther King, Jr. One idea that I believe has some relevance is that > King might not have been so successful if there was not the specter > of violent revolution in the background. King's approach was > non-violent but I believe it was aided by militant individuals > and groups, who were working towards the same basic goals but who > had expressed the willingness to resort to violent revolution if > their rights were not respected. > Malcolm X was one such revolutionary and his autobiography reveals > that he (until shortly before his death) believed that all whites hated > blacks and were irretrievably racist. In reading his autobiography, I > was relieved to find that (after his break with the Nation of Islam and > his pilgrimage to Mecca), he came to find that whites are no more > inherently evil...or good...than blacks or other ethnic groups. I > believe that Malcolm X was one of this centuries prime visionaries > for believing in freedom and for having the intellectual honesty to > admit that he was wrong about racial stereotypes. Even before his > break with the Nation of Islam, he exhibited tremendous honesty and > strength of character. > However, while I believe that Malcolm X was responsible to an > unrecognized extent for the successes of the civil rights movement, > I do not believe that he could have reached his goals without King > any more than King could have reached his goals without the threat > of revolutionaries to resort to violence if it was the only means > available to reach their goals. King won over the hearts > and minds of many people who were not hopelessly bigoted and earned > admiration for his success in taking the harder road to struggling > for racial equality. I believe that Malcolm X and other > revolutionaries largely functioned as an "else" clause for what > would happen if American society did not begin to respect the > rights of blacks and other minorities. > > _What lesson can we learn from the Second American Revolution?_ > > Winning the hearts and minds of the people is vital. Americans > have little patience for terrorism or misplaced viciousness but we > believe in justice and fairness. And we respect those courageous > enough to tell the government "No!" without resorting to violence > prematurely. > It is important, however, that there be an iron fist inside the > velvet glove, in case the government continues to ignore our search > for fairness and constitutionality. The second amendment alone may > provide that fist or some other option may be found. > > _Suggestions for the immediate future_ > > There are an incredible number of unconstitutional and > tyrannical laws and law enforcement practices being allowed these > days. I suggest that some examples be chosen and a plan of > non-violent defiance be formed. In the interest of appealing to a > broad spectrum of potential supporters, I would suggest that the > initial goal be one that would appeal to people of various > ideological positions: while firearms freedom is one of my primary > issues, I would suggest that the initial goal be selected in such > a way as to avoid that issue, abortion or other politically > polarizing choices. > One possibility would be a plan to have thousands of people > nationwide abstain completely from drinking but simultaneously > defy a drunk driving checkpoint. Drunk drivers suck and the > dangerously impaired should be punished with extreme vigor but > that is no reason why thousands of non-drunk citizens should be > forced to prove their state of non-intoxication to a law > enforcement officer. The police should have to rely on the > principles of spotting individual offenders through direct > observation, not by casting a fish net indiscriminately out in > public and waiting for the innocent to prove their innocence. > If thousands of people on, say, New Years Eve refused to roll > down their windows and held up a sign stating their position...and > if the media deigned to cover this event...it just might get ideas > going in peoples' heads. > Later approaches might be to attach bayonets to Chinese SKS > rifles in front of media cameras, then display Russian SKSs and > explain that they have their bayonets attached legally. Another > arbitrary law which has no effect on criminals but which can easily > cause non-criminal gun owners undeserved grief. -- "America is at that awkward stage. It is too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." - Claire Wolfe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Test Date: 24 Jan 1997 08:05:25 PST The thing that really got me wondering, is that for two days now there has been absolutely nothing on FAP, NoBan, or ROC. I was beginning to wonder if everyone had had their servers confiscated by the BATF or something. Yesterday evening FAP and NoBan finally started showing some action again, and now ROC, but I was beginning to get worried! Your message is the first "trickle" I've seen in several days. On Jan 24, Brad Dolan wrote: >I'm still seeing a trickle of messages on roc. I think everybody has just >lost interest or something. > >bd > >On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Bill Vance wrote: > >> Tasting, tasting, one, two, three, tasting. >> This has been a taste, _only_ a taste. >> >> Did the ROC server die, or what? -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Attorney General's authority required Date: 24 Jan 1997 12:25:41 -0700 (MST) Here is how we used IRC 7401 to show that the Secretary's authorization was lacking. This was done in 1994, so it is a bit dated at present. The same challenge could be made when the Attorney General's authorization is lacking, because this statute requires authorization by both the Attorney General and the Secretary. Excerpt now follows: 1. This Court lacks subject matter jurisdiction because the record does not exhibit the authorization required by Section 7401 of the Internal Revenue Code (hereinafter "IRC"). The summonses in question are entitled "Collection Summons", and IRC 7401 makes explicit reference to civil actions for "collection". There is no evidence on the record that the Secretary of the U.S. Department of the Treasury, or his delegate, authorized or sanctioned these proceedings. No such evidence was ever served on Respondent: Thus, where the Congress prohibits the commencement of a civil action unless certain specific acts are performed, this Court has no jurisdiction over the subject matter until the requisite conditions are met in fact and such compliance is shown by the pleadings and, where necessary, established by proof. ... [B]ut the mere allegation of facts necessary for jurisdiction without supporting proof is fatally defective. ... This Court holds that 26 U.S.C. Section 7401 requirements constitute facts essential to jurisdiction. The failure to prove jurisdictional facts when specifically denied is fatal to the maintenance of this action. [USA v. One 1972 Cadillac Coupe De Ville] !!! [355 F.Supp. 513, 515 (1973), emphasis added] 2. IRC 7401 requires that the "Secretary" authorize or sanction such proceedings. The term "Secretary" means the Secretary of the Treasury or his delegate, IRC 7701(a)(11)(B). Since January of 1993, lawful delegation by Mr. Lloyd Bentsen to any subordinates has been impossible. During his latest Senate term beginning in January of 1989, Mr. Bentsen voted to increase the pay for the office of the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, see P. L. 101-194, 5 U.S.C. 5318. His vote now bars Him from occupying that office until the end of his latest Senate term (January 3, 1995). This bar is found in Article 1, Section 6, Clause 2 (1:6:2) of the Constitution for the United States of America (hereinafter "U.S. Constitution"), as lawfully amended. Congress cannot cure this bar, because it cannot by legislation alter the U.S. Constitution, from which alone it derives its power to legislate, and within whose limitations alone that power can be lawfully exercised, see Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189, 206 (1920) and U.S. v. Twenty-Two Firearms, 463 F.Supp. 730 (1979). Unlawful exercise of power is a violation of Law. [end of excerpt] I hope this helps. /s/ Paul Mitchell For a good example, see IRC 7401, and the related case of USA v. One 1972 Cadillac Coupe de Ville, 355 F.Supp. 513, 515 (1973). "... this Court has no jurisdiction over the subject matter until the requisite conditions are met in fact .... This Court holds that 26 U.S.C. 7401 requirements constitute facts essential to jurisdiction. The failure to prove jurisdictional facts when specifically denied is fatal to the maintenance of this action." Now, you must read IRC 7401 to understand what is going on here -- both the Secretary and the Attorney General must authorize the action, or it cannot proceed, and the court has no jurisdiction to proceed over the subject without BOTH authorizations! Remember that "Secretary" means the "Secretary of the Treasury or his delegate" when you read IRC 7401. The definition of "Secretary" is found in IRC 7701 et seq. /s/ Paul Mitchell At 10:30 PM 1/22/97 -0600, you wrote: >Paul and fellow common law folks, > > As you can see I am still a teensy weensy bit behind. The below message >seems to be incomplete or missing something or am I missing something. The >implication here is that there is no Attorney General or authorized minions. >Are you referring to the fact the Attorney General must give up his/her >American citizenship for the time they serve in that capacity? > > If the purpose of this list is to educate ourselves in the use of the >common law in our lives, then it would seem we need to be more specific in >our posts. > > Can you shed a little more light on this subject? > >Dixie > > >At 07:04 PM 1/14/97 -0800, you wrote: >>The United States must have the authorization >>of the Attorney General, or the Attorney General's >>delegate, before it can commence any civil >>or criminal action against a Citizen in any >>federal court. If there is no Attorney General, >>then there can be no delegate, and therefore >>there can be no civil or criminal action against >>a Citizen in any federal court. Period. If that >>authorization did not exist in the past, then >>all civil and/or criminal actions against Citizens >>in any federal court were fraudulent for lacking >>authority. Period. This is fundamental American >>law, never repealed. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. email: ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85719/tdc =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sabutigo@teleport.com Subject: Re: (fwd)ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA Date: 24 Jan 1997 12:23:57 -0800 (PST) At 07:02 AM 1/24/97 -0800, you wrote: > >On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Tom Cloyes wrote: > >> This is a joke, right? >> >> >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >> >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:49:21 -0500 >> >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >> >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >> >Subject: ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA >> > >> >Special thanx to William (The Hillbilly) Beeler , >> >for forwarding this. >> > >> >I keep telling myself this must be a spoof, as it is the most inane >> >piece of supposed research I've seen of late... >> > >> >Check out the Acknowledgements, which are of no great surprise. >> >==================================================================== >> > >> > >> > A CLINICAL ANALYSIS OF ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA >> > >> > Ivor E. Tower, M.D. >> > Journal of Clinical Psychiatry >> > Volume 11, series 3, pages 4-5 >> > >> > >> > Abstract >> > >> >This study conclusively demonstrates that unfounded fear of >> >government is a recognizable mental illness, closely related to >> >paranoid schizophrenia. Anti-Government Phobia (AGP) differs from >> >most mental illnesses, however, in that it is highly infectious and >> >has an acute onset. Symptoms include extreme suspiciousness, >> >conspiracy-mongering, delusional thought patterns, staunch "us >> >against them" mentality, withdrawal from reality, and often >> >religious fanaticism. > > If you are really unsure of the nature of the above, look carefully at the name of the author of the "study." :-) S. "Life is always hopelessly complex to those who have no priniciples." -- Joseph Sobran "The most dangerous kind of ignorance is the ignorance of the educated." -- Thomas Sowell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Money -Reply Date: 24 Jan 1997 18:45:46 -0700 (MST) >Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:14:41 -0800 >From: Bill VanMastrigt >To: pmitch@primenet.com >Subject: Money -Reply > >Go for it. > >>>> Paul Andrew Mitchell 01/24/97 05:45am >>> >Bill, > >This is another beaut! >May I forward widely? > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > > > >At 11:37 AM 1/23/97 -0800, you wrote: >>It has been supposed that Fedral Reserve Notes are money. >>The basis for this argument is that money by definition >>is a store of VALUE, present and future. But, this is >>exactly where the argument falls down, for VALUE is >>always permanent. The VALUE store in FRNs is subject >>to diminution with time, by inflation. It is impossible >>that a VALUE store exists in any thing afflicted >>by this disease. >> >>If, indeed, FRNs were a store of VALUE, it would stand >>to reason that people would save a lot more of them, >>and not have to rely on any cradle-to-grave Ponzi >>scheme to "secure" their futures. >> >>Federal Reserve Notes are not money, never have been >>and never will be. Only a fool would hang on to very many >>of them for any length of time. There is only chaos >>at the end of the Road of Diminishing Returns. >> >>Bill =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. email: ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85719/tdc =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Boycott "IRS" [sic] Date: 24 Jan 1997 18:57:05 -0700 (MST) Dear America, I think that We, as an entire Nation, should seriously consider boycotting the IRS this year, most easily by refusing to file Form 1040, on or before April 15. If we are going to remove this cancerous leech, we will need to go through the pain of yanking it off the main artery that feeds our hearts. Then, we can dress the inevitable wound, and then let it heal, because the Spirit of life is filled with the power to heal. We must first give life a chance, instead of quarreling about the color of the leech, or the number of tentacles it has driven into our flesh, or the amount of blood it has already sucked -- and wasted. Life is struggling to break free; let us not hinder it, but help it along the way to its true American destiny. That destiny is called "The Perfect Law of Freedom." /s/ Paul Mitchell At 10:24 AM 1/23/97 -0800, you wrote: >At 01:58 PM 1/22/97 -0700, roc@xmission.com wrote: >>Paul Mitchell clarifies infra: > >>So, you have been deceived, and you should >>not file a Form 1040 on or before April 15. >> >>If the federal government owes you money, >>send them an invoice on April 15 (or sooner). > >Right...send them an invoice? How does one do this? Has it ever >successfully been done? Even if one can do this, it seems to me >that this would be a fight better left unfought. > >> >>What you need to do is "bill Clinton", >>care of the U.S. Department of the Treasury :) >> >>This will fast become the new American >>dance wave: do a "bill Clinton"!! >> >>Does that help? >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >> >>p.s. For the complete story, in full detail, >>see "The Federal Zone: Cracking the Code >>of Internal Revenue," electronic fifth edition, >>available from Us for $25 cash or blank >>U.S. Postal Money Order. >> >>=========================================================== >>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com >>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state >>=========================================================== > >Richard William, Crouch >Portland, Oregon > > None are more hopelessly enslaved than > those who falsely believe they are free. > Johann Wolfgang von Goethe 1749-1832 >******************************************* > "He who will not reason is a bigot; > he who cannot is a fool; > and he who dares not is a slave." > William Drummond 1585-1649 > > > > > =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. email: ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85719/tdc =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pengar Enterprises Inc. & Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: Money -Reply Date: 24 Jan 1997 19:15:45 -0700 >>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:14:41 -0800 >>From: Bill VanMastrigt >>To: pmitch@primenet.com >>Subject: Money -Reply >> >>Go for it. >> >>>>> Paul Andrew Mitchell 01/24/97 05:45am >>> >>Bill, >> >>This is another beaut! >>May I forward widely? >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> >> >>At 11:37 AM 1/23/97 -0800, you wrote: >>>It has been supposed that Fedral Reserve Notes are money. >>>The basis for this argument is that money by definition >>>is a store of VALUE, present and future. But, this is >>>exactly where the argument falls down, for VALUE is >>>always permanent. The VALUE store in FRNs is subject >>>to diminution with time, by inflation. It is impossible >>>that a VALUE store exists in any thing afflicted >>>by this disease. >>> >>>If, indeed, FRNs were a store of VALUE, it would stand >>>to reason that people would save a lot more of them, >>>and not have to rely on any cradle-to-grave Ponzi >>>scheme to "secure" their futures. >>> >>>Federal Reserve Notes are not money, never have been >>>and never will be. Only a fool would hang on to very many >>>of them for any length of time. There is only chaos >>>at the end of the Road of Diminishing Returns. >>> >>>Bill > The above view is also WRONG. FRN are indeed money. Money is a representation of value. If you are willing to trade something of value for them, then you value the FRNs and they are indeed money. There is not a set amount of wealth in the world. The above lecture on FRNs assumes that there is a set amount of wealth. FRNs are used to approximate the wealth of the nation and as that wealth increases, so does the need for more FRNs. If the government tries to inflate the money by printing FRNs, the people will value them less and not trade as much for one. FRNs are self regulating that way. They reflect the wealth of the nation (as a ratio -- not a 1-1 correspondence) Chad Chad Leigh Pengar Enterprises, Inc and Shire.Net chad@pengar.com info@pengar.com info@shire.net Full service WWW services from just space to complete sites. Low cost virtual servers. Web Design. DB integration. Tango. Email forwarding -- Permanent Email Addresses. POP3 and IMAP Email Accounts. mailto:info@shire.net for any of these. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Mitchell, you going to test this "IRC is dead" thing? Date: 24 Jan 1997 19:26:25 -0700 (MST) >) >)YEEEEEEEHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! >) >)I told y'all in 1992!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >) >)This one is an event to celebrate. >) >)The income tax is now officially dead, >)inside the several States of the Union. >) >)/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, >)Triumphant at Last > > > >you are being ridiculous - I will do the above when I see a statement from >the Feds teling me not to send in a return. Meantime, I don't think that >you will test this yourself? >chas Chas, I have already tested this myself. I no longer file, and I have billed the United States for all the Social Security money they withheld from my previous paychecks. Why do you need a "statement" from the Feds? They are not going to admit fraud to you, and then put such an admission into the U.S. Mail, thereby risking mail fraud too. If you need a "statement," then here's one: "There is no filing requirement." For proof, see IRC 7851(a)(6)(A): General rule: "The provisions of subtitle F shall take effect on the day AFTER the date of enactment of this title ...." Title 26 has never been enacted into positive law!! Check it out yourself, so you can be a witness, rather than to depend on others for this kind of info. Go to a law library, and ask the librarian for the list of Titles which have been enacted, and those which have not been enacted. The list is found on the inside cover of the USCA volumes. "USCA" is United States Code Annotated. To illustrate further, try reading all of the statutes in Title 31, United States Code. You will find that that "Internal Revenue Service" is not listed among the bureaus and other departments of the Treasury's organizational structure. Title 31 HAS been enacted into positive law. What does THAT tell you? /s/ Paul Mitchell ----------------------------cut here----------------------------- For Immediate Release December 27, 1996 Supreme Law Firm Announces Internet-based Supreme Law School by Paul Andrew Mitchell All Rights Reserved (December 1996) Payson, Arizona. The founder of a new legal cooperative -- the Supreme Law Firm -- today announced the start of their Supreme Law School, an electronic curriculum of recent developments in American constitutional law, and its applications to current state and federal court cases. Paul Andrew Mitchell, a computer systems consultant for 25 years and now Counselor at Law, will soon enter his eighth year of intensive research and developments in renewed systems of law, based upon the Constitution for the United States of America and its lawful amendments ("U.S. Constitution"). The curriculum of the Supreme Law School will pivot upon the Supremacy Clause, a provision in the U.S. Constitution which renders all federal laws, treaties, and the Constitution itself, the supreme Law of the Land. This supreme law is so important, that the various constitutions of the several states of the Union all recognize the U.S. Constitution as the superior guiding principle to guarantee freedom to Americans, forever. Membership in the Supreme Law School requires an Internet computer and pre-paid subscriptions on a discounted schedule. A pre-paid subscription for 1 month is $10; 3 months is $25; 6 months is $45; 12 months is $85. Current subscribers earn a one dollar credit for each subscriber-month they sponsor in the Supreme Law School. 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We will see you on the Internet! mm dd yy Signature: __________________________________ Date:____/____/____ ----------------------------cut here----------------------------- [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] For Immediate Release January 2, 1997 Supreme Law Firm Announces Habeas Project for Political Prisoners by Paul Andrew Mitchell All Rights Reserved (January 1997) Payson, Arizona. The founder of a new legal cooperative -- the Supreme Law Firm -- today announced a new project to bring their Supreme Law School into federal prisons, for the benefit of all political prisoners. The Habeas Project, founder Paul Mitchell's brain child, will leverage the growing enrollment of the School to identify sponsors who will forward study materials to prisoners, on a one-on-one basis, and act as mentors and counselors. "The incarceration rate in this country is a national scandal of immense proportions," Mitchell stressed. "The silver lining is that most political prisoners now have more reading and study time than ever before. We intend to restore freedom to each and every one of these prisoners, by teaching them the Supreme Law of the Land." Paul Mitchell points to former inmate Alan Stang, who found time in federal prison to write the ground- breaking book Tax Scam. Stang was jailed for a "tax crime." Mitchell recently launched the Supreme Law School, an Internet-based advanced curriculum for students and advocates of new developments in American Constitutional Law, as applied to current state and federal cases. Enrollment in the School is pre-paid in increments of one month, with a sponsor credit system for students who enlist others to enroll as well. Students can "drop-in" or "drop-out" as often as they want. Credits can be converted to cash or assigned to other projects of the Supreme Law Firm. For example, credits can be assigned to purchase postage for prisoners, who always need help with the simple expenses of answering mail and filing legal papers. "We are looking for generous and conscientious Americans who will enroll in the Supreme Law School, and then sponsor one or more political prisoners, whose special needs they will address," added Mitchell. "We want the Freedom Movement in America to remember those who were swept under the rug by a cruel and unusual regime of star chambers, entrapment, lies, extortion, and pseudo authorities. This regime is fast approaching a fascist dictatorship, and education in Law is a necessary ingredient to restoring the constitutional Republic which America was always designed to be, and to remain." More information about the Supreme Law Firm, and the Supreme Law School, can be obtained by directing electronic mail ("email") to , or writing to: Supreme Law School: Internet Group Attention: Habeas Project c/o 2509 North Campbell Avenue, #1776 Tucson, Arizona Republic Postal Zone 85719/tdc # # # ----------------------------cut here----------------------------- =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. email: ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85719/tdc =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ed Lawson" Subject: Re: Mitchell, you going to test this "IRC is dead" thing? Date: 24 Jan 1997 20:51:32 -0500 Never mind what you have done, let us know when you receive the check from the IRS.... I am close to saying beam me up Scotty.... Ed Lawson... On Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:26:25 -0700 (MST), Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > >>) >>)YEEEEEEEHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! >>) >>)I told y'all in 1992!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>) >>)This one is an event to celebrate. >>) >>)The income tax is now officially dead, >>)inside the several States of the Union. >>) >>)/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, >>)Triumphant at Last >> >> >> >>you are being ridiculous - I will do the above when I see a statement from >>the Feds teling me not to send in a return. Meantime, I don't think that >>you will test this yourself? >>chas > >Chas, > >I have already tested this myself. >I no longer file, and I have billed >the United States for all the >Social Security money they withheld >from my previous paychecks. > >Why do you need a "statement" from >the Feds? They are not going to >admit fraud to you, and then put >such an admission into the U.S. Mail, >thereby risking mail fraud too. > >If you need a "statement," then >here's one: > >"There is no filing requirement." > >For proof, see IRC 7851(a)(6)(A): >General rule: "The provisions of >subtitle F shall take effect on the >day AFTER the date of enactment of >this title ...." > >Title 26 has never been enacted >into positive law!! Check it out >yourself, so you can be a witness, >rather than to depend on others >for this kind of info. Go to a >law library, and ask the librarian >for the list of Titles which have >been enacted, and those which have >not been enacted. The list is found >on the inside cover of the USCA volumes. > >"USCA" is United States Code Annotated. > >To illustrate further, try reading all >of the statutes in Title 31, United >States Code. You will find that >that "Internal Revenue Service" is >not listed among the bureaus and >other departments of the Treasury's >organizational structure. Title 31 >HAS been enacted into positive law. > >What does THAT tell you? > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > > > > >----------------------------cut here----------------------------- > >For Immediate Release December 27, 1996 > > Supreme Law Firm Announces > Internet-based Supreme Law School > > by > > Paul Andrew Mitchell > All Rights Reserved > (December 1996) > >Payson, Arizona. > > The founder of a new legal cooperative -- the Supreme Law >Firm -- today announced the start of their Supreme Law School, an >electronic curriculum of recent developments in American >constitutional law, and its applications to current state and >federal court cases. Paul Andrew Mitchell, a computer systems >consultant for 25 years and now Counselor at Law, will soon enter >his eighth year of intensive research and developments in renewed >systems of law, based upon the Constitution for the United States >of America and its lawful amendments ("U.S. Constitution"). > > The curriculum of the Supreme Law School will pivot upon the >Supremacy Clause, a provision in the U.S. Constitution which >renders all federal laws, treaties, and the Constitution itself, >the supreme Law of the Land. This supreme law is so important, >that the various constitutions of the several states of the Union >all recognize the U.S. Constitution as the superior guiding >principle to guarantee freedom to Americans, forever. > > Membership in the Supreme Law School requires an Internet >computer and pre-paid subscriptions on a discounted schedule. A >pre-paid subscription for 1 month is $10; 3 months is $25; 6 >months is $45; 12 months is $85. Current subscribers earn a one >dollar credit for each subscriber-month they sponsor in the >Supreme Law School. If a current subscriber joins, and then >sponsors 25 other subscribers who pre-pay for one month, the >sponsor can either apply the $25 credit to future subscriptions, >or receive a cash rebate, paid in blank U.S. Postal Money Orders, >to any mailing location on the planet. 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We will see you on the Internet! > > mm dd yy > >Signature: __________________________________ Date:____/____/____ > > >----------------------------cut here----------------------------- > > >[This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] > >For Immediate Release January 2, 1997 > > Supreme Law Firm Announces > Habeas Project for Political Prisoners > > by > > Paul Andrew Mitchell > All Rights Reserved > (January 1997) > >Payson, Arizona. > > The founder of a new legal cooperative -- the Supreme Law >Firm -- today announced a new project to bring their Supreme Law >School into federal prisons, for the benefit of all political >prisoners. The Habeas Project, founder Paul Mitchell's brain >child, will leverage the growing enrollment of the School to >identify sponsors who will forward study materials to prisoners, >on a one-on-one basis, and act as mentors and counselors. > > "The incarceration rate in this country is a national >scandal of immense proportions," Mitchell stressed. "The silver >lining is that most political prisoners now have more reading and >study time than ever before. We intend to restore freedom to >each and every one of these prisoners, by teaching them the >Supreme Law of the Land." Paul Mitchell points to former inmate >Alan Stang, who found time in federal prison to write the ground- >breaking book Tax Scam. Stang was jailed for a "tax crime." > > Mitchell recently launched the Supreme Law School, an >Internet-based advanced curriculum for students and advocates of >new developments in American Constitutional Law, as applied to >current state and federal cases. Enrollment in the School is >pre-paid in increments of one month, with a sponsor credit system >for students who enlist others to enroll as well. > > Students can "drop-in" or "drop-out" as often as they want. >Credits can be converted to cash or assigned to other projects of >the Supreme Law Firm. For example, credits can be assigned to >purchase postage for prisoners, who always need help with the >simple expenses of answering mail and filing legal papers. > > "We are looking for generous and conscientious Americans who >will enroll in the Supreme Law School, and then sponsor one or >more political prisoners, whose special needs they will address," >added Mitchell. "We want the Freedom Movement in America to >remember those who were swept under the rug by a cruel and >unusual regime of star chambers, entrapment, lies, extortion, and >pseudo authorities. This regime is fast approaching a fascist >dictatorship, and education in Law is a necessary ingredient to >restoring the constitutional Republic which America was always >designed to be, and to remain." > > More information about the Supreme Law Firm, and the Supreme >Law School, can be obtained by directing electronic mail >("email") to , or writing to: > > Supreme Law School: Internet Group > Attention: Habeas Project > c/o 2509 North Campbell Avenue, #1776 > Tucson, Arizona Republic > Postal Zone 85719/tdc > > # # # > > >----------------------------cut here----------------------------- > >=========================================================== >Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. >email: >ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 > Tucson, Arizona state > Postal Zone 85719/tdc >=========================================================== > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: Money -Reply Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:23:57 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Pengar Enterprises Inc. & Shire.Net LLC wrote: > >>Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:14:41 -0800 > >>From: Bill VanMastrigt > >>To: pmitch@primenet.com > >>Subject: Money -Reply > >> > >>Go for it. > >> > >>>>> Paul Andrew Mitchell 01/24/97 05:45am >>> > >>Bill, snip> >> > >>/s/ Paul Mitchell > >> > >> > >> > >>At 11:37 AM 1/23/97 -0800, you wrote: > >>>It has been supposed that Fedral Reserve Notes are money. snip> >>>at the end of the Road of Diminishing Returns. > >>> > >>>Bill > > > > > The above view is also WRONG. FRN are indeed money. Money is a > representation of value. If you are willing to trade something of value > for them, then you value the FRNs and they are indeed money. There is not > a set amount of wealth in the world. The above lecture on FRNs assumes > that there is a set amount of wealth. > > FRNs are used to approximate the wealth of the nation and as that wealth > increases, so does the need for more FRNs. If the government tries to > inflate the money by printing FRNs, the people will value them less and not > trade as much for one. FRNs are self regulating that way. They reflect > the wealth of the nation (as a ratio -- not a 1-1 correspondence) Wich is a description of a currency market, markets that have existed since the first merchant traders sprang up near Italy. It also shows the real magic IMHO of markets, that they always find a way to adjust around artifical barriers (trade tarrifs, alchol prohibitions, new tulip production methods, etc). Currency users -know- when their currency is being messed with, and their behaviours anticipate and adjust for these changes. I love capitalism, I just hope to be good at it one day. Wish I knew what this all had to do with restoring out constitution. > Chad Boyd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: Money -Reply Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:16:45 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: snip > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > > > >At 11:37 AM 1/23/97 -0800, you wrote: > >>It has been supposed that Fedral Reserve Notes are money. > >>The basis for this argument is that money by definition > >>is a store of VALUE, present and future. But, this is > >>exactly where the argument falls down, for VALUE is > >>always permanent. Value is -always- as fickle as the people who percieve it. Tulips were a common trade commodity (currency) in most of northern europe at one time. Because the dutch controlled shipping lanes and because the bulbs were rare. Gold is commonly suggested as a superior currency. But even when we were on the Gold standard, reserves had to be moved among trading partners to cover changes in productivity and trading deficits... (continued)... > The VALUE store in FRNs is subject > >>to diminution with time, by inflation. It is impossible > >>that a VALUE store exists in any thing afflicted > >>by this disease. continuation... And what happened to the gold certificates in the delays caused by transoceanic gold shipments? dunt dunt duh! -Inflation-! Local currencies got devalued and foreign goods were not buyable. > >> > >>If, indeed, FRNs were a store of VALUE, it would stand > >>to reason that people would save a lot more of them, > >>and not have to rely on any cradle-to-grave Ponzi > >>scheme to "secure" their futures. This is more persuasive to me. Unfortunatly, I think a lot of people simply havent been bright enough to realize SS was a ponzi scheme, but this is changing. > >>Federal Reserve Notes are not money, never have been > >>and never will be. Only a fool would hang on to very many > >>of them for any length of time. There is only chaos > >>at the end of the Road of Diminishing Returns. This certainly could all be true 'fars I know. But the inflation argument isn't convincing. Does any of it have anything to do with restoring our constitution? > >>Bill > Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. Boyd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: "United States" defined by USDC, Virgin Islands Date: 25 Jan 1997 04:55:08 -0700 (MST) At 01:43 AM 1/25/97 -0600, you wrote: >I keep coming up with questions. If the income tax is dead in the several >states, why would one need to file a "zero" return? > >Dixie Hi Dixie! To keep them off our backs. Remember, a New York court ruled that it is okay to file "under protest." Perhaps without knowing it, that court permitted a special reservation which is recognized in the Uniform Commercial Code. So, if People are nervous about not filing at all on or before April 15, a ZERO RETURN is the next best option, imho. Thanks for your interest, Dixie. /s/ Paul Mitchell p.s. We have the docket file from the Virgin Islands case, Burnett v. C.I.R. ("Commissioner of Internal Revenue"). It's looking good. > >>>>The income tax is now officially dead, >>>>inside the several States of the Union. >>>> >>>>/s/ Paul Andrew Mitchell, >>>>Triumphant at Last =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. email: ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85719/tdc =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Boycott "IRS" [sic] Date: 25 Jan 1997 05:39:15 -0700 (MST) At 12:41 AM 1/25/97 -0600, you wrote: >Whhooooaaaaa Paul !!! Do you know this person whom you are telling to not >file? Do you know for a fact that they are not required to file? Some >people ARE you know. No, the filing requirement falls within subtitle F, and subtitle F has never gone into effect, on authority of IRC 7851(a)(6)(A). Read it for yourself: "General rule. The provisions of subtitle F shall take effect on the day after the date of enactment of this title ...." !!! Better yet, go down to the local law library, and get the librarian to certify a copy for you. There is usually a nominal fee for that kind of service; it will be worth it! While you are there, read all of Title 31, cover to cover. You will then become a WITNESS. Now, that's powerful, very powerful. Nobody else to depend on, except yourself. /s/ Paul Mitchell > I may be stepping on toes here, You're not. Don't worry about it. I appreciate your interest, and the time you took to write this. but unless you know >these folks you are giving legal advice which you can be held accountable >for rendering. I would welcome the accountability. Yes, I am giving them legal advice, because what the IRS spews out is ILLEGAL advice! I am doing what Congress should be doing every day and night right now. Since they are NOT doing it, I am doing it for them. Somebody's got to do it! :) I nominated myself. Remember, we are kings, and we work for the King of kings. /s/ Paul Mitchell > >Also it is wonderful to tell people to boycott the IRS but I think you >should also tell them that they run the risk of incurring the wrath of the >IRS and what that entails. They can't stop 100 million Americans from pushing them into the sea. I personally think it is irresponsible to tell >people to do something of this magnatude and then not forewarn them of the >consequences. The consequences of an effective boycott will be just wonderful for the entire country, once the leech is yanked from our veins and the temporary wound is allowed to heal. We will be keeping upwards of 30% of our GNP inside the nation, and we will experience unprecedented prosperity. You have never seen anything like the excitement and economic activity that will gush forth in this country. We are now poised for a virtual explosion in economic activity, now that the infrastructure is in place for a rapid expansion in computer utilization by every man, woman and child in the nation. Why, we are fast approaching processors which oscillate at one BILLION cycles per second. Do you know what that means? The IRS can't even get their network to limp, and they have had billions of dollars to get that project going. It's over ... Over ... OVER for them. They have had their chance, and they blew it. I am sharpening my wooden stake and practicing my sledge hammer. /s/ Paul Mitchell That is one of the things I hold a large portion of the >"patriot" community responsible on. They go around giving seminars on how >to de-tax and get out of the system and fail to warn people of the possible >consequences. We know how to stop any IRS "prosecution" dead in its tracks, so there is really nothing to fear. /s/ Paul Mitchell > >I have very strong feelings about that. If you are going to tell them to >boycott then you need to tell them if they ARE required to file a tax return >then they set themselves up for evasion prosecution. Nobody is required to file. See above. If they are not >required to file a tax return then they are most likely going to receive >notices of where is your tax return, 30 day letters, 90 day letters and >assessments unless they do something about it. We know how to handle these notices too: refuse them for mail fraud, since the "IRS" is not "U.S. Department of the Treasury", but a private treasury domiciled in Puerto Rico. Every piece of mail they are sending out is one count of felony mail fraud. All of this has been documented now, and the "IRS" has fallen totally, utterly, and tragically silent, activating estoppel. Silence in this situation is also fraud, on authority of U.S. v. Tweel, U.S. v. Prudden, and Carmine v. Bowen. It's over for them. OVER!!!! /s/ Paul Mitchell Those are the cold hard >facts. People deserve to know them going into the game. Yes. I agree completely that people should know the cold hard facts, the main ones of which are that the IRS is an extortion racket, and it deserves to be dismantled, the sooner the better. Let's get it over with. They have had their high tide. They are now going to get washed out to sea, like San Francisco Bay during ebb. It's over, Over, OVER for them. And that's the cold, hard truth of the case. /s/ Paul Mitchell > >Dixie > > >At 06:57 PM 1/24/97 -0700, you wrote: >>Dear America, >> >>I think that We, as an entire Nation, >>should seriously consider boycotting >>the IRS this year, most easily by >>refusing to file Form 1040, on or >>before April 15. If we are going >>to remove this cancerous leech, >>we will need to go through the pain >>of yanking it off the main artery >>that feeds our hearts. Then, we >>can dress the inevitable wound, >>and then let it heal, because the >>Spirit of life is filled with the >>power to heal. We must first give >>life a chance, instead of quarreling >>about the color of the leech, or >>the number of tentacles it has >>driven into our flesh, or the amount >>of blood it has already sucked -- >>and wasted. Life is struggling to >>break free; let us not hinder it, >>but help it along the way to >>its true American destiny. >> >>That destiny is called >>"The Perfect Law of Freedom." >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> >> >>At 10:24 AM 1/23/97 -0800, you wrote: >>>At 01:58 PM 1/22/97 -0700, roc@xmission.com wrote: >>>>Paul Mitchell clarifies infra: >>> >>>>So, you have been deceived, and you should >>>>not file a Form 1040 on or before April 15. >>>> >>>>If the federal government owes you money, >>>>send them an invoice on April 15 (or sooner). >>> >>>Right...send them an invoice? How does one do this? Has it ever >>>successfully been done? Even if one can do this, it seems to me >>>that this would be a fight better left unfought. >>> >>>> >>>>What you need to do is "bill Clinton", >>>>care of the U.S. Department of the Treasury :) >>>> >>>>This will fast become the new American >>>>dance wave: do a "bill Clinton"!! >>>> >>>>Does that help? >>>> >>>>/s/ Paul Mitchell >>>> >>>>p.s. For the complete story, in full detail, >>>>see "The Federal Zone: Cracking the Code >>>>of Internal Revenue," electronic fifth edition, >>>>available from Us for $25 cash or blank >>>>U.S. Postal Money Order. >>>> >>>>=========================================================== >>>>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com >>>>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state >>>>=========================================================== >>> >>>Richard William, Crouch >>>Portland, Oregon >>> >>> None are more hopelessly enslaved than >>> those who falsely believe they are free. >>> Johann Wolfgang von Goethe 1749-1832 >>>******************************************* >>> "He who will not reason is a bigot; >>> he who cannot is a fool; >>> and he who dares not is a slave." >>> William Drummond 1585-1649 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>=========================================================== >>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. >>email: >>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 >> Tucson, Arizona state >> Postal Zone 85719/tdc >>=========================================================== >> > > > =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. email: ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85719/tdc =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howlin' Blue" Subject: Re: Mitchell, you going to test this "IRC is dead" thing? Date: 25 Jan 1997 07:21:21 -0600 Ed Lawson wrote: > > Never mind what you have done, let us know when you receive the > check from the IRS.... > > I am close to saying beam me up Scotty.... > > Ed Lawson... I got a JB on the rocks waiting for you when you get here. Refill, please, Scotty. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIALS (plural of phobes) Date: 25 Jan 1997 06:41:59 -0700 (MST) Professor Seymour Butts issued a scathing review in the respected journal "The UN Observer." Don't miss it! Signs have been observed hanging from necklace chains in American uncourt rooms: U N OBSERVER We are UNaccountable, UNconstitutional, UNethical, and UNeducated, and we are going to rule the known UNderWORLD. /s/ Paul Mitchell (known anti-government phobe) "phobe" (rhymes with "probe") Our nomination for the NWOW award this week. NWOW = New Word Of the Week contest. At 11:05 AM 1/24/97 -0700, you wrote: >>This is a joke, right? > >Has to be. It doesn't "conclusively demonstrate" anything. If I'd turned in >an undocumented piece of allegation like this in grad school, I'd have failed >the course. > >>>X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >>>Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:49:21 -0500 >>>To: eplurib@megalinx.net >>>From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >>>Subject: ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA >>> >>>Special thanx to William (The Hillbilly) Beeler , >>>for forwarding this. >>> >>>I keep telling myself this must be a spoof, as it is the most inane >>>piece of supposed research I've seen of late... >>> >>>Check out the Acknowledgements, which are of no great surprise. >>>==================================================================== >>> >>> >>> A CLINICAL ANALYSIS OF ANTI-GOVERNMENT PHOBIA >>> >>> Ivor E. Tower, M.D. >>> Journal of Clinical Psychiatry >>> Volume 11, series 3, pages 4-5 >>> >>> >>> Abstract >>> >>>This study conclusively demonstrates that unfounded fear of >>>government is a recognizable mental illness, closely related to >>>paranoid schizophrenia. Anti-Government Phobia (AGP) differs from >>>most mental illnesses, however, in that it is highly infectious and >>>has an acute onset. Symptoms include extreme suspiciousness, >>>conspiracy-mongering, delusional thought patterns, staunch "us >>>against them" mentality, withdrawal from reality, and often >>>religious fanaticism. Having the patient committed to a qualified >>>mental health institution is the best option for family and loved >>>ones. For this reason, all psychiatrists and family physicians >>>should be provided with educational materials which will help them >>>recognize the various symptoms and warning signs accompanying >>>onset. Since comparitively little is known about Anti-Government >>>Phobia at the present time, a government-funded health commission >>>should be set up to oversee, and help focus, future research. > > > =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. email: ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85719/tdc =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: update: USDC Virgin Islands Date: 25 Jan 1997 07:06:11 -0700 (MST) Dear Friends, In re: Burnett v. C.I.R., ST96-C-0146-M/B, Burnett, Ray Robert (and Gleeana Lynn) v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue, USDC, Virgin Islands Counsel for Commissioner: Toni B. Florence Case Opened: 7/12/96, Closed 11/1/96 The docket file which Leslie Ernest, Rohde pulled from the USDC PACER system in the Virgin Islands has revealed the following: 11/01/96 TKM dismissed the case for lack of subject matter jurisdiction, and improper venue The University of Arizona law librarians were kind enough to locate a page from a U.S. court administrative volume, which listed one Thomas K. Moore ("TKM")as the Chief Judge of the USDC, Virgin Islands. So, this docket entry is clearly an ORDER dismissing the case, issued by Chief Judge Thomas K. Moore. There were no other orders listed in the docket. Also found in that docket were: 09/16/96 MOTION TO DISMISS by defendant IRS 09/16/96 BRIEF in support of defendant's motion to dismiss We are now seeking copies of the ORDER dismissing the case, and both the BRIEF and MOTION TO DISMISS by the IRS. The earth-shaking admission we are seeking is going to be in one or the other of these, if our hypothesis is correct. There were also a MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT by "petitioners" [sic] (don't know who THEY are yet, most probably they are the defendants, i.e. IRS), and a NOTICE OF REFUSAL FOR FRAUD by the plaintiff, but nothing after that. Stay tuned. The dam is about to burst! /s/ Paul Mitchell =========================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. email: ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85719/tdc =========================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack@minerva.com Subject: Re: Money -Reply Date: 25 Jan 1997 08:13:56 PST roc@xmission.com wrote : >This is more persuasive to me. Unfortunatly, I think a lot of people >simply havent been bright enough to realize SS was a ponzi scheme, but >this is changing. > SS may be a ponzi scheme now. I really do not think it was a ponzi scheme when it was instituted. In times of stable prices and prices were remarkably stable all the 30's and 40's setting aside a fixed amount each month will actually pay for a retirement. Also, the average life expectancy when SS was proposed was much shorter and all the expensive medical procedures that extended life but not joy were unknown. So, as I do the arithmetic setting aside a fixed amount each month in periods of no inflation will cause enough to be accumluated to pay for several years of life after age 65 which is all the system promised. Why it is a ponzi scheme now is that in periods of ever rising costs and assuming the lying government is correct and ignoring value adjustments there is no inflation there is always higher taxes which are a higher cost all the money that is saved in early years is trivial compared to the rate it is consumed in later years. Also, life expectancy increased by several years and while saving for 5 years of retirement is simple, saving for 15 is very difficult. However, I believe the greatest reason SS has become such a ponzi scheme is that heroic medical procedures often consume more than was saved / budgeted for quite a few years of retirement So, in essence, I think you should have said *IS* a ponzi scheme and not *WAS* a ponzi scheme Jack Jack Perrine | ATHENA Programming, Inc | 818-798-6574 | ---------------- | 1175 No. Altadena Drive | fax 398-8620 | jack@minerva.com | Pasadena, CA 91107 US | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Bo Gritz rumor: he's AOK Date: 25 Jan 1997 10:36:50 -0700 (MST) Jerry, 10-4 and many thanks! Thank God, too!! /s/ Paul Mitchell At 06:51 PM 1/24/97 -0700, you wrote: >At 06:37 PM 1/24/97 -0700, you wrote: >>Col. Gritz, >> >>Rumors are flying that you have >>been shot. Can you confirm or >>deny, please? >> >>If you can answer, may I have >>your permission to forward to >>the many email lists of which >>I am a member? >> >>Thank you. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >> >>=========================================================== >>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. >>email: >>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 >> Tucson, Arizona state >> Postal Zone 85719/tdc >>=========================================================== >>Dear Paul: Bo is alive and well. He is currently in Nevada taking care of >business. He is on his radio show "live" every day. I have talked to him >several times to day. Please let people know. It's like Mark Twain said, >"Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated." > >Jerry Gillespie > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: "We Took That Island" Date: 25 Jan 1997 12:14:05 -0700 (MST) At 12:20 PM 1/25/97 -0600, you wrote: >At 05:55 AM 1/25/97 -0700, you wrote: >>[This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] >> >> "We Took That Mountain" >> >> by >> >> John E. Trumane >> >Paul, > > Great story thanks. It still has not swayed me in the respect that we are >dealing with laws with the IRS. They claim they have the color of law, we >claim they are full of it. We are NOT slugging it out on an island. We are >slugging it out in the courts of law and lawlessness. Big difference. > >Besides yourself, how many people do you know the Affidavit of Probable >Cause has worked for. > >Dixie Dixie, I don't keep score this way, because I work mostly underground, and I stay mostly out of touch with all the cases which are currently underway. My gift is to dig down deep, like a drilling rig searching for water in Arizona. When I hit the aquifer, I come up for air and generate lots of rain clouds. That's how I work. The affidavit of probable cause is a requirement of the Fourth Amendment: "... no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation ...." That's the origin of the Affidavit of Probable Cause. Just check into "Words and Phrases" in any law library. My father's experience on Iwo Jima is a model for all of us. When you make up your mind, you must follow through. When they climbed down that rope net, and into the landing craft, there was no turning back, come what may, for each and very one of those Marines. As I see it, we are in the landing crafts right now, and we are about to hit the beach. I made my commitment 7 years ago. It has been a 7-year trip to the moment of truth. The judges are now being presented with their choice; we shall see which side they choose: taxes, or no taxes. That is THE question for them right now. This issue is now on the table, and I believe it will split the judiciary right in two, as some get very angry at Congress for taxing them illegally all these years; others will act like Tories and side with Congress, no matter how illegal their salary taxes have been. I would not be surprised if many judges already have guns to their heads; what we need is for more of them to admit it, openly and notoriously. Then we will have a national catharsis on this question. This is a silent revolution which is going on right now, as you read this. In State v. Kemp, we are using the ZIP code issue to force into the open the USPS sale of bonds to foreign banks, and the liens which those foreign banks obtained on future postal revenues. That practice is a microcosm of the entire American economy: sell fraudulent liens on American collateral over which Congress has no controlling interest whatsoever. The foreign banks which bought USPS bonds paid for those bonds with money they created out of thin air; it is the exact same scam as the broader one which the FRB has been using against the entire nation ever since 1913. See the Supreme Law Library, particularly the Vieira transcript, for the rest of the story! Our entire banking establishment is founded now on fascist principles, and this skew needs to be corrected as soon as possible. I am sorry for rambling. You got me going with "Affidavit of Probable Cause. See the Fourth Amendment. See also the missing Preamble to the Bill of Rights, which is rarely published with the rest of the U.S. Constitution. It is engraved in brass plaques mounted on the corridors of the USDC in Tucson, Arizona, however. How nice! If they would only READ it once in a while. /s/ Paul Mitchell ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Foreign Earned Income Form 2555 Date: 25 Jan 1997 12:28:56 -0700 (MST) Carl et al., The verification under penalty of perjury on 1040 Forms is the one for verifications INSIDE the "United States", pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 1746(2). That is the WRONG one for the vast majority of Americans, who should be verifying their affidavits under penalty of perjury, pursuant to 28 U.S.C. 1746(1), NOT (2). So, Form 1040 has a basic, fraudulent flaw in it, due to the confusion surrounding the legal meaning of the term "United States" as found in that statute. Furthermore, "Foreign Earned Income" applies only to "income," which has not been defined in the IRC. Using the meaning as used in the so-called 16th Amendment, "income" is profit or gain; it is NOT what you get paid for your labor. I know the whole debate concerning the OMB control number, etc. But, the meaning of "income" is controlling here, as is the meaning of "foreign." We are sure now that the municipal jurisdiction of D.C. is, indeed, "foreign" with respect to the 50 States of the Union. So, Frank Brushaber made "foreign unearned income," that's for sure. To tell you the truth, I have some serious doubts about the meaning of "earned income" in any event, particularly for working People. What exactly is the difference between "earned profit" and "unearned profit", regardless of whether it is foreign or domestic? I should think that the answer to this question applies only to corporations, which have "earnings", that is, "profits" after expenses are deducted, and labor is a normal business expense. Chapter 13 in The Federal Zone goes into this matter in great detail, and comes up with the same result: the IRC is a municipal statute for the federal zone only, and for citizens and residents of that zone only. The Brushaber case suffered for failing to take into account The Insular Cases, which established the precedent concerning territorial heterogeneity, a/k/a the Downes Doctrine, to wit: "The Constitution of the United States, as such, does not extend beyond the limits of the States which are united by and under it!" Hooven in 1945 extended this doctrine by saying that the guarantees of the Constitution extend to the federal zone ONLY as Congress has made those guarantees applicable, by legislation. I personally feel that these two doctrines are unconstitutional, as so eloquently explained by Justice Harlan in his Downes dissent. Everyone should read that dissent; it is prescient, to say the least. /s/ Paul Mitchell /s/ Paul Mitchell At 09:47 AM 1/25/97 -0800, you wrote: >If the IRS and the federal income tax is jurisdictionaly in the "Federal >Zone", then why not file the proper form provided for this purpose. > People working for private companies not within the "Federal Zone" >and living in one of the 50 states (and whose money has already been >withheld), should consider this option and file the "Foreign Earned >Income Form 2555, claiming the $70,000 foreign earned income exclusion >provided for on the form. > This way you can get back what has already been taken and make >your statement about your statis and "their" jurisdiction. This form >must be filed along with the 1040. > > "The information you have just read is true. > Though some of the points described have not > been tested by the author, the have been > used by hundreds of other revenue oppressed Americans. > > The author disclaims any liability of responsibility > do to the use and application of any of the following > information, which is not provided for the purpose > rendering any legal advise or professional service... > > In other words your federal government may consider > this tax strategy as being "totally frivolous and > without merit.........NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > "It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire. > > >-- >"May Yahweh be your strength, shield and song" "HalleluYahweh" > >Carl Klang, Music Ministries http://www.klang.com > >"God armeth the Patriot" > Sir William Wallace > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gdoty@earthlink.net (Greg Doty) Subject: Fwd: It has Begun... http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/illinois.html Date: 25 Jan 1997 11:32:07 -0800 (PST) >From: Clido@aol.com >Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:03:10 -0500 (EST) >cc: dragoon@fxbbs.com, LadyDK1@aol.com >Subject: Fwd: It has Begun... http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/illinois.html >X-UIDL: 785debb84ee556184af7e729e1bf7eb0 > > >--------------------- >Forwarded message: >From: powens@mixcom.com (Pat Owens) >To: Clido@aol.com >CC: bpbethan@theramp.net >Date: 97-01-23 19:16:03 EST > >>From: >>Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:01:06 -0500 >>To: ralph@TeamInfinity.com >>Subject: It has Begun... http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/illinois.html >> >>http://TeamInfinity.com/bible >> >>===========================[ preCONTENT QUOTES ]=========================== >> >>Revelation 13:16-18 >> >>"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to >>receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man >>might BUY OR SELL, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or >>the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding >>count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number >>is Six hundred threescore and six." >> >>"Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God." TJ >> >>====================[ END of QUOTES, START of CONTENT ]================== >> >>THIS IS FOR REAL FOLKS, it's time to know for yourself and let others know >> >>You will have to visit the site to see the gif of the letter. >>at http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/illinois.html >> >> >>This note and the following picture was received today from a reader of this >>web site. It appears that the Illinois Department of Public Aid is requiring >>those who receive AFDC to accept biometric indentification. We know the >>technology is readibly available for biometric implants and that the time of >>their usuage is near. This is just a warm up to the main event which will >>occur during the Tribulation when Revelation 13:16-18 is fulfilled. >> >> >>Illinois requires "mark of beast" >> >>A friend of mine showed me a letter she recieved yesterday from the Illinois >>Department of Public Aid, it requires all people who recieve AFDC to accept >>biometric identification or lose their assistance. I know you might think >>I'm making that up so I have attached 3 gif images that I scanned which is >>the entire letter. I wanted to send this to you because I thought you could >>get this information out to any Christian groups that may still care. Thank >>You >> >>A few links worth visiting after you read the article below. >> >>http://www.state.il.us/dpa/iscan.htm >>http://hpcc998.external.hp.com/stlocgov/la.html >>http://vitro.bloomington.in.us:8080/~BC/REPORTS/CTSTG96 >> >>Picture below. >> >> http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/illinois.html >> >> >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>USC Title 26 is your friend (US TAX CODE as WRITTEN), I kid you not, as is. >>If you are confused, please write me. Any FOOL who suggests otherwise needs >>to learn quick or RETRACT and SHUT UP and LEARN, as s/he is ignorantly >>leading many to doom and may cause what is now in your favor to go against >>you (and us all). The Code of Federal Regulations and Paperwork Reduction >>Act, OMB Control numbers and the US CODE (i.e. 50 Titles of which Title 26 >>is but one) TOGETHER are the KEY to KNOWING the law, anything out side >>of this is BREAKING the LAW and ignorance of the LAW, and WORTHLESS >>DANGEROUS DEADLY OPINION. KNOW it BEFORE you SPECULATE and MISLEAD OTHERS >>and butress FALSE NOTIONS which overtime CAN become the LAW !! I encourage >>active debate and immersion in all these matters, not unlike spending a lot >>of time and spirited discussion in the WORD (Holy Scripture) >> >> ralph@TeamInfinity.com >> >> http://TeamInfinity.com/~ralph/code/t26.html >> >> >> If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of >> servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home >> from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch >> down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget >> that ye were our countrymen. - Samuel Adams >> >> >>>>>>> http://TeamInfinity.com/urls.html >> >> >> This correspondence in NO WAY represents SAPF, but feel free to >> contact them thru Andrew C. Earp >> >> 1-800-677-1207 ext. 1800 RALPH and ANDREW C. EARP >> Andrew C. Earp is NATIONAL DIRECTOR of SEMINAR SERVICES >> >> CALL 703-904-7770 ask for document 777 >>######################################################################### >> >> >> >>TO RECEIVE email from ralph: send email to ralph@TeamInfinity.com and in >>the Subject make sure your email address and the word GO-RALPH (no spaces) >>is in the subject. >> >>TO STOP RECEIVING email from ralph: send email to ralph@TeamInfinity.com >>and in the Subject make sure your email address and the word WHOA-RALPH >>(no spaces) is in the subject. >> >> >>For Made in the USA Contacts/Catalogs etc: >> >> (800) ASK-MUSA/(301) 718-2671 >> >> 1-800-888-9999 >> >>DONT FORGET "CHINA BEACH HEAD" in LONG BEACH NAVAL STATION, now run by the >>RED CHINESE as their FIRST PORT in AMERICA LITERALLY, ONE of the LARGEST SEA >>CARGO CONTAINER PORTS IN THE WORLD RUN BY THE RED CHINESE I KID YOU NOT, >>FORMERLY ONE of the LARGEST NAVAL MILITARY PORTS. They are STUFFING us FULL >>of worthless plastic/cheap/dangerous/flimsy crap/econo-poison and draining >>our currency at the same rate. Middle men (so called US Companies) are >>getting rich here in the states selling us out, and the Chinese people >>continue to suffer. >> >> >>FIJA INFORMATION: >>If you dont know what FIJA is, you need to find out... >> >> You'll receive a free "Jury Power Information Kit" when you call >> 800-TEL-JURY and record your name and address. Or call FIJA National at >> (406) 793-5550. >> >> To join FIJA National, send $15 (basic membership) to FIJA, P.O. Box 59, >> Helmville, MT 59843. We'll send the "Kit", your membership card, and the >> next four issues of our quarterly newsletter, the FIJActivist. >> >> Locally, singlehandedly and in groups, FIJA activists hand out >> educational materials -- like this brochure -- in front of courthouses on >> jury selection days. In some states they press for FIJA legislation. Many >> sport FIJA t-shirts or bumber stickers, show or broadcast FIJA's public >> service announcements, or "speak FIJA" on local talk shows. And every >> September 5, activists around the nation celebrate *Jury Rights Day* >> (which has now been proclaimed official by several state governors.) >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Attorney General's authority required Date: 25 Jan 1997 11:57:02 -0700 (MST) At 12:20 PM 1/25/97 -0600, you wrote: > >Okay. You are saying that you have the IRS off your back. They don't send >you notices or try to trick you into filing returns and you did it with an >Affidavit >of Probable Cause. What is that exactly? The affidavit which normally accompanies a criminal complaint, i.e. "verified complaint." For example: "As a result of the experiences and documents described above, Affiant now believes there is probable cause to charge A, B, and C with violations of [enumerate criminal statutes here, for example, 18 U.S.C. 241, 242, etc.]" Remember, 18 U.S.C. 242 is VERY general, because it covers ALL fundamental Rights, of which there are many. /s/ Paul Mitchell > > >I like your war analogy, but it is not a relevant one. There is a major >difference in planning a tactical battle with guns, ammunition and previous >history to know if you drop a well laid bomb it will blow up the enemies >munitions camp or supply depot. Your analogy is based upon physical fire >power and the ability to call in more fire power. Strength in numbers, yes. > >With the IRS we are dealing with an agency that has at its beck and call an >extraordinary amount of power to weal against citizens. I am not afraid of >taking them on, I have been doing so for over 12 years. But as you admit, >they are giving illegal legal advice, so we are dealing with laws not bullets. I say we leverage the Internet big time right now, and spread around public domain files like all the pleadings In re Grand Jury Subpoena Served on New Life Health Center Company, for example. That set of pleadings was absolutely devastating to the IRS. They will NEVER recover from the revelations which were amply documented in that case. We are now about to do it again in another federal court in the South. The tide has turned, and it is time to go front page with this stuff. Another big case is about to get reported on the Associated Press wire, because the reporter just got carte blanche to report the pleadings I wrote in the Looker case. Once the court was pressured to file everything, instead of just "lodging" or "receiving" the papers, the AP reporter went into high gear. Expect to see some really amazing reports on the AP wire over the next 2 to 4 weeks. Looker has effectively counter-sued every federal employee who has even remotely touched his case: we call it "The Electric Fence" phenomenon. If you touch the case, you are automatically inside a 20-foot high chain-link fence, topped with concertina wire, and electrified with 440 volts, and the gate swings only one way! Moreover, we have now proven that the federal Jury Selection and Service Act is demonstrably unconstitutional, thereby overturning every grand jury action and every trial jury action in any federal court since the Civil War. There, for political reasons, we may have to stipulate that federal citizens do not have standing to bring this challenge; however, Looker is not a federal citizen; he is a Citizen of West Virginia state. Add to that the fact that the JSSA only has a policy for jury selection in the District Court of the United States; there is NO POLICY at all for jury selection in the United States District Court. Can you believe that Congress would blow it that badly? I can!!! This has ASTRONOMICAL importance. I don't mean to keep repeating myself here, but all of this has already been amply documented in the Supreme Law Library at URL: http://www.supremelaw.com especially the articles "Karma and the Federal Courts," "State Citizens Cannot Vote", and "Juries in Check around the Nation." DOJ finally responded to Looker's MOTION TO STAY PROCEEDINGS, and all they could say was that Looker is a "resident alien." Looker was born in America!!! This allegation assumes facts not in evidence; DOJ has lost that one, and that is obvious now. See the Historical and Statutory Notes after 28 U.S.C. 541; you will be really surprised. Quoting now: Words "learned in law" were omitted as unnecessary. Such requirement is not made of United States judges and no reason appears to make a distinction respecting United States attorneys. There you have it! Right in Title 28 by West Publishing Company. What a colossal embarrassment for the United States Department of Justice (Just-US). And these people put Citizens in federal prison. I am appalled, really and truly appalled. /s/ Paul Mitchell > >Dixie > >At 05:52 AM 1/25/97 -0700, you wrote: >>At 12:24 AM 1/25/97 -0600, you wrote: >>>Paul, >>> >>> I am familiar with this. Now let me ask another question please, how >>>many people do you know of, personally where you have the printed evidence, >>>that this has backed the IRS off a collections case? >> >>Do you mean a court case, >>or an administrative collection? >> >> >> I do not know of one - >>>not one. >> >>You are talking to one. >> >> >> I do know of quite a number where it did not stave the IRS one >>>iota. >> >>Next time, try an Affidavit of Probable Cause. >>That usually stops them in their tracks. >> >> >>> If we are going to beat the IRS, we need things that will work. >> >>Yes, like Title 18 :) >> >> >> I do >>>not mean to be skeptical, but I have learned the hard way, the very, very >>>hard way, to check everything out and ask for actual cases where these >>>things have worked. >> >>The guys who took Iwo Jima >>never once asked themselves: >> >>"We have never done this before. >> How do we know it's going to work?" >> >>Instead, they brought in Captain Dan Appleton >>to drop 12-inch shells with pin-point precision >>1,000 yards in front of the advancing Marines. >>Appleton did all the aiming and firing, HIMSELF! >> >>My father never turned to his partner >>and asked: >> >>"How are we going to secure this runway? >> We have never done this before." >> >>Instead, he screamed for more 50-caliber >>ammunition for his water-cooled machine >>gun, and had all he could do to keep the >>barrel from melting. When that Japanese Zero >>landed, thinking the coast was clear, >>can you imagine how great it felt to >>surround that runway and, without any >>orders from anybody, they all knew >>instinctively what they were going to do. >>The Zero taxied to the end of the runway, >>opened his canopy, and the Marines let loose >>with everything they had. That Zero flew into >>a zillion little pieces, as the landing >>gear disintegrated and collapsed. And then, >>you heard the loudest yell in unison that >>any group of Marines had ever uttered, >>as they thrust their fists into the air, >>M-1 rifles in one hand, bullets in the >>other, and sand between their teeth. >>Yes, we are going to TAKE this island, >>and THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO IT. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> >> >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>>Dixie >>> >>>At 12:25 PM 1/24/97 -0700, you wrote: >>>> >>>>Here is how we used IRC 7401 to show >>>>that the Secretary's authorization >>>>was lacking. This was done in 1994, >>>>so it is a bit dated at present. >>>> >>>>The same challenge could be made when >>>>the Attorney General's authorization >>>>is lacking, because this statute >>>>requires authorization by both the >>>>Attorney General and the Secretary. >>>> >>>>Excerpt now follows: >>>> >>>> 1. This Court lacks subject matter jurisdiction because >>>> >>>>the record does not exhibit the authorization required by Section >>>> >>>>7401 of the Internal Revenue Code (hereinafter "IRC"). The >>>> >>>>summonses in question are entitled "Collection Summons", and IRC >>>> >>>>7401 makes explicit reference to civil actions for "collection". >>>> >>>>There is no evidence on the record that the Secretary of the U.S. >>>> >>>>Department of the Treasury, or his delegate, authorized or >>>> >>>>sanctioned these proceedings. No such evidence was ever served >>>> >>>>on Respondent: >>>> >>>> Thus, where the Congress prohibits the commencement of a >>>> civil action unless certain specific acts are performed, >>>> this Court has no jurisdiction over the subject matter until >>>> the requisite conditions are met in fact and such compliance >>>> is shown by the pleadings and, where necessary, established >>>> by proof. ... [B]ut the mere allegation of facts necessary >>>> for jurisdiction without supporting proof is fatally >>>> defective. ... This Court holds that 26 U.S.C. Section 7401 >>>> requirements constitute facts essential to jurisdiction. >>>> The failure to prove jurisdictional facts when specifically >>>> denied is fatal to the maintenance of this action. >>>> >>>> [USA v. One 1972 Cadillac Coupe De Ville] !!! >>>> [355 F.Supp. 513, 515 (1973), emphasis added] >>>> >>>> 2. IRC 7401 requires that the "Secretary" authorize or >>>> >>>>sanction such proceedings. The term "Secretary" means the >>>> >>>>Secretary of the Treasury or his delegate, IRC 7701(a)(11)(B). >>>> >>>>Since January of 1993, lawful delegation by Mr. Lloyd Bentsen to >>>> >>>>any subordinates has been impossible. During his latest Senate >>>> >>>>term beginning in January of 1989, Mr. Bentsen voted to increase >>>> >>>>the pay for the office of the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury, see >>>> >>>>P. L. 101-194, 5 U.S.C. 5318. His vote now bars Him from >>>> >>>>occupying that office until the end of his latest Senate term >>>> >>>>(January 3, 1995). This bar is found in Article 1, Section 6, >>>> >>>>Clause 2 (1:6:2) of the Constitution for the United States of >>>> >>>>America (hereinafter "U.S. Constitution"), as lawfully amended. >>>> >>>>Congress cannot cure this bar, because it cannot by legislation >>>> >>>>alter the U.S. Constitution, from which alone it derives its >>>> >>>>power to legislate, and within whose limitations alone that power >>>> >>>>can be lawfully exercised, see Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189, >>>> >>>>206 (1920) and U.S. v. Twenty-Two Firearms, 463 F.Supp. 730 >>>> >>>>(1979). Unlawful exercise of power is a violation of Law. >>>> >>>> [end of excerpt] >>>> >>>>I hope this helps. >>>> >>>>/s/ Paul Mitchell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>For a good example, see IRC 7401, >>>>and the related case of >>>>USA v. One 1972 Cadillac Coupe de Ville, >>>>355 F.Supp. 513, 515 (1973). >>>> >>>>"... this Court has no jurisdiction over >>>>the subject matter until the requisite >>>>conditions are met in fact .... This >>>>Court holds that 26 U.S.C. 7401 >>>>requirements constitute facts essential >>>>to jurisdiction. The failure to prove >>>>jurisdictional facts when specifically >>>>denied is fatal to the maintenance of >>>>this action." >>>> >>>>Now, you must read IRC 7401 to understand >>>>what is going on here -- both the Secretary >>>>and the Attorney General must authorize the >>>>action, or it cannot proceed, and the >>>>court has no jurisdiction to proceed over >>>>the subject without BOTH authorizations! >>>> >>>>Remember that "Secretary" means the >>>>"Secretary of the Treasury or his delegate" >>>>when you read IRC 7401. The definition >>>>of "Secretary" is found in IRC 7701 et seq. >>>> >>>>/s/ Paul Mitchell >>>> >>>> >>>>At 10:30 PM 1/22/97 -0600, you wrote: >>>>>Paul and fellow common law folks, >>>>> >>>>> As you can see I am still a teensy weensy bit behind. The below message >>>>>seems to be incomplete or missing something or am I missing something. The >>>>>implication here is that there is no Attorney General or authorized >>minions. >>>>>Are you referring to the fact the Attorney General must give up his/her >>>>>American citizenship for the time they serve in that capacity? >>>>> >>>>> If the purpose of this list is to educate ourselves in the use of the >>>>>common law in our lives, then it would seem we need to be more specific in >>>>>our posts. >>>>> >>>>> Can you shed a little more light on this subject? >>>>> >>>>>Dixie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>At 07:04 PM 1/14/97 -0800, you wrote: >>>>>>The United States must have the authorization >>>>>>of the Attorney General, or the Attorney General's >>>>>>delegate, before it can commence any civil >>>>>>or criminal action against a Citizen in any >>>>>>federal court. If there is no Attorney General, >>>>>>then there can be no delegate, and therefore >>>>>>there can be no civil or criminal action against >>>>>>a Citizen in any federal court. Period. If that >>>>>>authorization did not exist in the past, then >>>>>>all civil and/or criminal actions against Citizens >>>>>>in any federal court were fraudulent for lacking >>>>>>authority. Period. This is fundamental American >>>>>>law, never repealed. >>>>>> >>>>>>/s/ Paul Mitchell >>>> >>>> >>>>=========================================================== >>>>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. >>>>email: >>>>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 >>>> Tucson, Arizona state >>>> Postal Zone 85719/tdc >>>>=========================================================== >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>=========================================================== >>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. >>email: >>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 >> Tucson, Arizona state >> Postal Zone 85719/tdc >>=========================================================== >> > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: sacred cows Date: 25 Jan 1997 15:30:14 -0700 (MST) >Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:20:30 >To: Phil Day <106544.1673@compuserve.com> >From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >Subject: sacred cows > >One more thing, Mr. Day. > >I suppose that, after ROASTING >our sacred cows, you now plan >to EAT them too, is that correct? > >/s/ Janet We Know >(of the "Has Been Hierarchy") ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: HOUSTON... WE [still] HAVE A PROBLEM Date: 25 Jan 1997 15:29:45 -0700 (MST) >Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:13:56 >To: Phil Day <106544.1673@compuserve.com> >From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >Subject: HOUSTON... WE [still] HAVE A PROBLEM > >Uh, yes, Mr. Day. > >This is Janet Wee Know. > >You do seem to enjoy >roasting our sacred cows, here. > >Don't you know the law >down here in India? > >We must now douse the >hot charcoals in your >barbecue oven, and then >put you in a straight jacket! > >Do you have any closing words? > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > > > >At 05:14 PM 1/25/97 -0500, you wrote: >>The Intelligence Journal >>January Update... >> >>HOUSTON... WE HAVE A PROBLEM. >> >>ALMOST THIRTY YEARS ago man took his first historic step onto the moon. As >>Neil Armstrong uttered the famous words, "One small step for man, one giant >>leap for mankind," the jubilation and feeling of humanity's victory over >>the elements was a global wave that washed over the earth with the tidal >>promise of greater technological achievements to come. But almost three >>decades on from that auspicious >>day, July 20th 1969, an ever growing number of researchers have come to >>believe that the event was faked, or at the very least, riddled with >>disturbing inconsistencies. And not just the Apollo 11 landing alone.... >>After a blockbusting start to the moon-shot ratings in 1969, such >>conspiracy theories about NASA conning the public were roundly ridiculed. >>After all, what proof was there that the missions were staged? We all saw >>Mission Control going through their paces with all that gadgetry. What >>about that live TV footage, huh? >>But by and by as public interest in man's achievements 'up there' soon >>began to dwindle and Apollo 13 had limped home with Tom Hanks on board in >>April of 1970, certain NASA photos began to make the rounds and the >>accusations soon began in earnest. >>The last men to set foot upon the moon (shall we say 'allegedly'?) were the >>astronauts of Apollo 17 in December of 1972. At that time, it was >>becoming increasingly clear that NASA was having a major battle securing >>future ppropriations for moon exploration from a recession-weary Congress >>too 'mooned out' to cough up the goodies further. And still the conspiracy >>theories abounded. >>The movie, Capricorn 1, which starred Hal Holbrook and our old friend, OJ >>Simpson, didn't help. It introduced the public officially to the idea that >>a faked moon landing was a possibility, given the level of motion picture >>and photographic technology available at that time. It was a stunning and >>audacious concept. "But what would NASA have to gain?" the apologists >>cried out. Was all this fakery supposed to be simply about soliciting more >>money from the American people for further space exploration? Did Neil >>Armstrong and Buzz (Lightyear) Aldrin really have the capacity to lie on >>such a cosmic level? >>At the same time there is a huge conundrum about Russia. How could this >>nation, virtually devastated by World War 2, have suddenly developed the >>super-advanced technology to explode their first atomic bomb far sooner >>than the Americans had ever thought possible? How could they have >>developed a space program to rival the United States when they were not >>even capable of building a colour TV until >>the mid-seventies? >>Research always begins with the non-sequitur, the facts that don't quite >>fit, the rat which begins to smell when one stands back and takes a look >>for a moment at the bigger picture. Is there compelling evidence to >>suggest that the Apollo moon missions were faked? Is there evidence to >>suggest that these missions occurred but that the photographic evidence was >>doctored or fabricated? Did Russia ever have a space program? How did >>Russia gain atomic technology so quickly at the end of World War 2? What >>can be gained from conning the public on such a grand scale and with so >>much at stake? >>What could the Power Boys be trying to hide? >>Ralph Rene, a researcher from New Jersey USA, argues that man never flew to >>the moon. In his book NASA Mooned America, Rene claims the Apollo pictures >>were shot in a government studio near the town of Mercury in Nevada. >>Englishman David Percy on the other hand puts forward his expertise as a >>professional photographer >>to explain that the various light sources on the enclosed pictures, along >>with major gaffes in layout and positioning, demonstrate beyond a 'shadow' >>of a doubt that the pictures themselves were faked. He also claims to have >>an informant within NASA, code-named Whistleblower, who has leaked >>information about the cover-up. Percy states that if the pictures can be >>proven to be faked, then WHAT IS NASA TRYING >>TO HIDE? >>Back in 1976, researcher Dr Stuart Crane was voicing his concerns about the >>validity of the concept that Russia was a super-advanced technological >>behemoth capable of annihilating America just as soon as the wind was >>favourable. In his series of lectures given in Montreal in 1976, Dr Crane >>also cast grave doubts over the authenticity of the Apollo Space Program >>with pictures in his lectures similar to those we are featuring here, aired >>in this month's British glam-conspiracy rag, X-Factor. If you take a >>moment to study the pictures, you will see inconsistencies that are not >>satisfactorily explained away by NASA attempting to snow us with their >>'expert' arguments. Many 'expert' professional photographers have been >>astonished to point out the errors in the pictures and finally end up >>extremely confused and unsettled, >>contemplating the ghastly realities of what they are looking at. >>Well, if you live in BubbleLand and believe that milk comes from a >>refrigerator and everything that comes down the TV cable pipe at you has >>been personally OK'ed by Tom Brokaw and Dan Rather, you WILL have a problem >>with what is being discussed here. On the other hand, if you have been >>studiously putting all the different pieces of Global Mischief together for >>quite a while (despite the inevitable and boring castigations from friends >>and family), all this will merely be further proof of what you have >>suspected all along: that Global Minds have been a-plotting, and you can >>bet it hasn't been with your grandma's best interests at heart. >>Now we're not saying we didn't go to the moon on July 20th 1969 and planted >>Uncle Sam's pretty, rippling(?) Stars and Stripes moniker upon that >>distant, alien land, all we're saying is that you've only got NASA's word >>for it - and the photographic evidence they say is authentic, frankly... >>smells. 3,000 MILLION dollars spent for a couple of sacks of moon gravel? >>That's expensive stuff, folks. And the inconsistencies don't stop with >>America, as we have alleged. How could Russia have possibly developed, >>manufactured and detonated an atomic device a mere three years after >>emerging from the end of World War 2, economically destroyed, starving, >>technologically backward (almost all their aircraft were developed from >>American Lend-Lease models) with NO PREVIOUS HISTORY of high technology >>innovation? >>That Russian atomic detonation in 1948 was extremely political. At the >>time, Americans were outraged that their own government was doing so little >>to halt the spread of communist incursion into eastern Europe. That atomic >>blast let America off the hook. Now it was a question of whether the world >>wished a nuclear confrontation for the first time on a global scale. >>The only plausible explanation was that Russia's bomb was manufactured in >>the United States (Oak Ridge, Tennessee) and shipped with its detonator to >>the Soviet Union for a nice little demonstration for all the world to see. >> >> Sounds far fetched? Not if you analyse the level at which WW2 was really >>being contested. Its purpose was to create the conditions for a future >>Global World Order, calculated to emerge in the form of the United Nations >>after the cessation of hostilities. Consider the 1952 testimony of Major >>George Jordan, U.S Airforce (rtd) who was an officer working as a logistics >>liaison at Pine Gap, Montana, between the >>Americans and Soviets towards the latter part of the war. The >>December/January 1997 edition of Nexus magazine carries the details of >>Jordan's diaries. Jordan alleges that he witnessed first-hand >>technological documents relating to the manufacturing of a Uranium- based >>nuclear device being shipped out of the >>country into the Soviet Union via the Siberian transit route by Russian >>military personnel under the command of Colonel Anatoli Kotikov with the >>full blessing of the United States Government. The head of security at the >>highly classified U.S. technological compound at Oak Ridge, TN resigned >>after realising that he had been an unwitting participant in the treasonous >>act of handing over top secret atomic data and hardware to the Russian >>‘science’ establishment. >>Consider that at the war's end, the United States fielded the mightiest >>army the world had ever seen up to that point. She had more tanks, more >>aircraft, ships, submarines and more soldiers under arms than any other >>power then existing and had an invincible military presence on all >>continents on the planet. The whole world fully expected at that time that >>America would bring peace, liberty and freedom to the >>planet. Instead, in the decades that followed, the United States >>retreated, disarmed and created in their media a great Red Army which has >>never been able to vanquish anything like an equal force - not even rag-tag >>rebels in Chechnya and Afghanistan. Incredibly America paraded this huge >>paper tiger before the terrified and cowering nations of the earth and >>turned over a third of the world's people to that tiger >>without even a shot being fired at them. >>That was the purpose of the Second World War. It was to set up a new era >>in the art of people-control, but control this time not through war, but >>through atomic fear. >>Global political agendas, whether they are secret or overt, can easily be >>analysed from the point of view of non-sequiturs. We know Russia could not >>have possessed the capability either to pioneer an atomic program or a >>space program BY THEMSELVES simply by merit of the fact that they had no >>prior history in high-technology research and development. >>As mentioned last month, a nation must produce a surplus of their >>technological production for export into the global market and trade with >>other nations for the imports they require. This is the nature of a >>technological society. A nation cannot manufacture everything they require >>themselves (not even the Japanese!) because of the limits imposed upon them >>by their labour force and natural resources. >>One can tell that Japan is a bona fide industrial nation, not by visiting >>Japan, but by simply going to a local hi-tech store and viewing their >>exports on display. By this method, we may also validate Germany, the >>United States, France and even England as possessing intrinsic >>technological skills that are plain for all the world to see. >>Now go to a store and find something manufactured by Russia. The only >>thing researchers have ever uncovered solely manufactured by the Soviet >>Union have been vodka and extremely bad tasting cigarettes. >>This tells us a lot. So does the fact that Russia possessed less tarmac-ed >>road mileage in their entire country in 1974 than the city of Detroit. >>Russia was incapable of manufacturing computers, TVs, accelometers and >>other space gadgetry up until relatively recently. Does this sound like a >>modern, industrialised nation capable of arming itself (all alone) with the >>kind of doomsday weaponry Illuminati publications such as Time and Newsweek >>have been hanging over our heads for years, or are we missing something >>very big here? >>Does anybody care? >>Information such as this naturally points to hidden agendas. You'd have to >>be dummer than an extra in Wayne's World not to figure it out. The fact >>though that the authorities will not come clean about what they are >>withholding should scream volumes to the questioning mind. After all, why >>not tell the truth? >>You can't hide behind 'National Security' because we're not supposed to be >>at war with anyone... or did someone lie to us about that too? >>The fact of the matter is that the leading governments of the world ARE at >>war with an enemy which is why they're not coming clean with you about >>bogus moon pics and gnarly nuclear agendas. >>Because that enemy is YOU. >>Dear NASA, >>Nice photos. So what did you really do with all our taxpayers' money, you >>thieving little crooks? >>Love Mrs Angry from Wichita. >>Don't hold your breath, Mrs A. because the honest reply won't be coming >>anytime soon. Truth be known, they took your tax dough, billions of it >>offered by Congress for Mr Kennedy's Moon Dream, and ploughed it into their >>sordid little Black Projects while you were busy taking an afternoon >>Budweiser out to Mr Angry in the garden. Then they lied to you with their >>glossy photos, their contempt for you so open >>that they couldn't even be bothered to make a half-decent, convincing job >>of them. So how does that make you feel, ma'am? Angry? >> Probably not. There are too many other, more important things going on, >>aren't there? Like this week's lottery draw and Aunt Ethel's arthritis. >>But for the record, your government and their nameless, faceless watchers >>didn't care what you thought when they gave your son his one-way ticket to >>Da Nang, Vietnam, they laughed when they blew your kindergarten kiddies >>across the road in Oklahoma City and they couldn't care less today what you >>think about their faked-out cartoons of moon-tech and treason. >>They own you. And you let 'em. >>So next time you pass one of their surveillance cameras in Main Street... >>smile and say cheese! >> >> >>APOLLO 11: The photo of Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin >>planting the US flag on the moon’s surface was taken by a 16mm >>camera mounted on the Lunar Module. Aldrin’s shadow (A) is far >>longer than Armstrong’s, yet the only light on the moon - and the >>only light source used by NASA - comes from the sun, and >>should not create such unequal shadows. >> >>Apollo 12: >>As Alan Bean holds up a Special Environment Sample Container, the top of >>his head is clearly in view. But the camera taking the shot was fixed on >>Charles Conrad’s chest, and the ground here seems to be level, so the top >>of the helmet (L) should not be in the photo. >>Shadows visible in Al Bean’s visor (M) go off in various directions, not in >> >>straight parallel lines as expected, suggesting that there is more than one >> >>light source. >>The container Bean is holding (N) is brightly lit at the bottom, yet it is >>facing away from the light. This may be due to the light reflected from >>Bean’s suit, but the rest of the container is not so brightly lit. >> >>Apollo 16: John Young is readjusting the antenna next to the Lunar Rover >>Vehicle. A cross-hair marker can be observed going BEHIND the LRV’s >>equipment (Q). These cross-hairs are made by a screen of cross-hairs >>placed between the shutter and the film. The foreground shows what looks >>like the letter C on a boulder. Could this be an identification marker on >>a >>studio prop? The tracks made by the LRV’s wheels turn rather oddly at >>right angles (S). The rear wheels of the buggy are fixed and it looks like >> >>the vehicle was manually wheeled into position - not a feat that was >>carried >>out by the astronauts. Such clear tracks and footprints require moisture >>to >>form and should not appear on a dry lunar surface such as we observe >>here. >> >>Apollo 15: Here we have the sky without any stars, yet with no atmosphere >>on the moon, stars should be visible (J) - a fact confirmed by Maria >>Blyzinsky, Curator of Astronomy at the Greenwich Observatory, London. If >>NASA could not hope to recreate a lunar sky, they may have opted for >>simple, black backdrops. NASA claim that the sunlight was so strong it >>overpowered the light from the stars. >>On the shadow side of the landing module, there is a plaque (K) with the >>American flag and the words ‘United States’ quite bright and clearly >>visible, >>but the highly reflective gold foil around the plaque is in near darkness, >>pointing to an additional light source. >> >>Apollo 11: NASA claims the strange shape (E) in this shot - taken from the >> >>Lunar Module while it was 95km above the moon’s surface - is a shadow >>cast by the Command Module’s rocket. But when larger aircraft fly at lower >> >>altitudes over the earth, they do not cast such huge and defined shadows. >> >>Apollo 14: As the Lunar Module Antares rests on the moon’s surface >>there is no crater beneath its feet (F), despite the considerable amount of >> >>dust that would have been thrown up during its descent. There also >>appears to be a footprint (G) directly under the module, yet no-one walked >>on this part of the moon before the craft landed. On the left of the >>craft, the >>words ‘United States’ (H) are clearly visible, whereas they should be in >>deep shadow. What is the light source reflecting the foil on this side? >>Buzz Aldrin himself said that there is no refracted light on the moon, >>which >>points to the fact that another source of light was used to take this shot. >> >> >> ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack@minerva.com Subject: SS a ponzi and such Date: 25 Jan 1997 14:53:29 PST Kenneth Mitchell wrote : >At 08:13 AM 1/25/97 PST, you wrote: >>roc@xmission.com wrote : >> >> >>>This is more persuasive to me. Unfortunatly, I think a lot of people >>>simply havent been bright enough to realize SS was a ponzi scheme, but >>>this is changing. >>> >> >>SS may be a ponzi scheme now. I really do not think it was a ponzi >>scheme when it was instituted. In times of stable prices and prices >>were remarkably stable all the 30's and 40's setting aside a fixed amount >>each month will actually pay for a retirement. Also, the average life >>expectancy when SS was proposed was much shorter and all the expensive >>medical procedures that extended life but not joy were unknown. > > >However, SS _never_ invested money paid into the system for your OWN >retirement; it was _always_ a case of "current payees' paying for current >expenses". In other words, it was a Ponzi from the get-go. > >It's only in the last few years that there has even been a semblance of a >"trust fund" where current money is being invested for the future. (Too >bad it's being invested in government bonds!) I think that totally ignores the reality of the world. Investing in a trust fund and assuming that something will be available from the trust fund 40 years or so later are two entirely different things. If one again goes back to the 30's and 40's when Social Security was started the money truly was not invested in trust funds. On the other hand interstate highways were built / the schools actually produced people who could read / technology continued to improve individual productivity. This implies that at distant date there would be someone to tax to provide the benefit. Granted one could also have invested the money into an *investment* and at a time in the future there might be a firm that could pay dividends to make the investment valuable. However, for the last 20 years we have been progressively embracing an age of ignorance where half the students graduate but can not read / most government expenditures go not into anything that will produce anything of value but rather into things like educating the mentally retarded that just consumes money like a bottomless pit. Thus one can be happy and say we are investing the money in a trust fund so it will be there.....but implicit in such statements is the concept that at some point in the future enough people will be able to read to maintain enough technology to generate anything.....not only for those living at that time but also those who invested in it in the past. This is the real *ponzi* scheme of SS. Most of the generations wealth is squandered not only at governmental levels but thru governmental mandates at the private level on projects that destroy wealth as surely as lighting a stack of 100 dollar bills and watching them burn. SS is primarily a *ponzi* scheme since as one looks into the future he sees only ignorance and an ever smaller percentage of the population that can read. It is simple enough to look ahead into the future and say that in a decade or so to support the system employement taxes would have to 30 or 50 percent or such.....but the primary reason for this is that as ignorance conquers all incomes have been falling while life expectancy has been rising. Conversely, if the demographics were going the other way so that each high school class had higher averge SAT scores than the previous then average incomes would increase fast enough to support those who want to retire. However, it really matters little whether the one has a system like at present or one feels the money is actually separated off into a little account where each has so much of something with his name on it unless future generations can do something other than collect welfare they can neither pay taxes to fund the present system nor provide employees or customers for private entites so profits can be credited to all those nice little accounts. If we would get over the stupidity of thinking people are learning anything of use by having a computer and knowing how to click and get to a WWW site AND NOT BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND A SINGLE WORD WHEN THEY GET THERE THEN some system might provide retirement Jack >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ken Mitchell Citrus Heights, CA kmitchel@gvn.net >916-449-9152 (vm) 916-729-0966 (fax) >--------------http://www.gvn.net/~creative/----------------------- >"Gun control laws don't work. What is worse, they act perversely. >While legitimate users of firearms encounter intense regulation, >scrutiny and bureaucratic control, illicit markets easily adapt >to whatever difficulties a free society throws in their way. Also, >efforts to curtail the supply of firearms inflict collateral damage >on freedom and privacy interests that have long been considered >central to American public life." Daniel Polsby, >"The False Promise of Gun Control" The Atlantic, March 1994 >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jack Perrine | ATHENA Programming, Inc | 818-798-6574 | ---------------- | 1175 No. Altadena Drive | fax 398-8620 | jack@minerva.com | Pasadena, CA 91107 US | Jack Perrine | ATHENA Programming, Inc | 818-798-6574 | ---------------- | 1175 No. Altadena Drive | fax 398-8620 | jack@minerva.com | Pasadena, CA 91107 US | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: (fwd)MOVE Families Settle Date: 25 Jan 1997 18:03:42 -0500 >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:51:09 -0500 >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >Subject: MOVE Families Settle > >Notice the demonizing buzz-words, used to marginalize the >atrociy commited against this group of Americans. For any >of you who just can't seem to well up the ability to care >about what happened to this group of people (after all, >they weren't Patriots...), let me remind you that if we >begin selectively choosing whose rights we will defend, >based upon their ideology, we have become no better than >those we claim to oppose. Helen > >======================================================== > >01/25/1997 15:03 EST > >Phila., MOVE Families Settle > > >PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- The city has reached settlements with >relatives of two members of the radical MOVE group who were killed >when police bombed their fortified rowhouse. > >Under the agreements reached earlier this month, the city will pay >more than $500,000 each to the estates of MOVE founder John >Africa and Frank James Africa, who were among 11 people found >dead after the city's confrontation with the group in 1985. > >After an exchange of gunfire, officers dropped a bomb from a >helicopter onto the roof of the MOVE house. The bomb, intended to >open a hole for tear gas, started a fire that destroyed 61 other >homes. > >Members of the mostly black group had all adopted the surname >Africa, ate raw food, espoused equality with animals and preached >against technology. > >Under the agreement, the city agreed to drop its appeal of a verdict >awarding the estates $500,000 each. > >In return, relatives of the dead men dropped their appeals of a >judge's decision that two city officials were immune from lawsuits. > >Ramona Africa, the only MOVE adult to survive the fire, rejected the >settlement. > >``We don't care about the money,'' she said. ``This is an issue of >these people being held accountable.'' >=========================================================== >E Pluribus Unum - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html > >P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 >Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 >"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 > > > "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Janet We Know Arm Wrestling Contest (lowest priority) Date: 25 Jan 1997 18:36:59 -0700 (MST) Having failed the FOIA test for her official credentials, Ms. Janet We Know of the Department of Just Us will now challenge all comers to an open and notorious arm wrestling contest, tanks or no tanks. Winner gets an all expense paid vacation to Waco, Texas, compliments of the Performance Management and Recognition System (still happening, after all these years). My, how time does fly when you're having fun, doesn't it Ms. We Know? /s/ Janet We Know's Agent Provocateur (never known to decline a bonus) ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: NRA Shakeup, Con't Date: 25 Jan 1997 19:32:00 -0800 (PST) Anyone who might think that the Washington Times NRA shakeup article is bogus, or an Edmundson ploy, need only contact their NRA Board Member(s) of choice to confirm to disprove the truth of the contents of the article. The accuracy of Washington Times article, according to one of my sources, "is in the high nineties." Also, much of the information in the (Texas) STATE ASSOCIATION COORDINATING COMMITTEE NEWSLETTER (January, 1997) is factual. There is a power struggle going on within the NRA Board of Directors and the Officers of the Corporation. Your input as to how YOU would like YOUR organization to be is VITAL, and the absence of your input could be perilous to all of us. As soon as possible, write, and snail-mail your opinion to: Open Letter to NRA Board of Directors National Rifle Association of America 11250 Waples Mill Road Fairfax, VA 22030-9400 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: U.S. Attorneys = Secret Police Date: 26 Jan 1997 03:43:04 -0800 As of 5:00 p.m. on Friday, January 24, 1997, Janet Reno defaulted in the face of a FOIA request and appeal for her Appointment Affidavit, which exhibits the Oath of Office required by the U.S. Constitution at Article VI, Clause 3, and by Title 5, United States Code, Section 3331. According to U.S. v. Tweel, silence is a fraud, when there is a legal or a moral duty to speak. According to Carmine v. Bowen, silence activates estoppel. Therefore, Janet Reno has now committed a fraud upon the American People, and her failure to produce credentials has estopped her from doing so at any time in the future. This estoppel reaches all the way back to her first day in office, thereby coloring ALL her actions since then, including Waco, Texas, and every civil and criminal action which her office is required to authorize, by law, before such actions can proceed in the first instance. See, for example, Internal Revenue Code section 7401. She cannot authorize anything, if she has not taken the requisite oath of office, and that means that she cannot delegate authority either! /s/ Paul Mitchell At 09:04 AM 1/23/97 -0600, you wrote: >It appears that crackdowns on militia, common law and other >"antigovernment >extremists" escalated dramatically following the March 1993 firing of all >93 U.S. Attorneys by Attorney General Janet Reno. These attorneys were >replaced by attorneys who backed President Clinton. Further, after the new >appointees were inserted, they hired their own assistant U.S. attorneys >and staff -- all favoring, naturally, the current administration. > >The entire process was described as "routine," but was it really? And look >at what has transpired since: > >-- April 19, 1993: Waco >-- Continued coverups of Ruby Ridge and Waco >-- "Crackdowns" on militia groups and common-law courts >-- Nonstop surveillance, arrest, imprisonment of Montana Freemen >-- Arizona Vipers arrests >-- West Virginia militia bust related to FBI fingerp[rint HQ bomb "plot" >-- "We the People" farm claims crackdown arrests, convictions, prison >-- Vince Foster coverup >-- Continued foot-dragging on Inslaw/PROMIS, bank frauds >-- Whitewater convictions, stonewalling >-- FBI "filegate" >-- Asian takeover of Commerce Dept. >-- Ron Brown plane crash >-- Mena coverup (Leach wanted to probe, but was blocked) >-- Aspin dismissal, death >-- Espy dismissal (Tysongate) >-- Cisneros probe (sexual misconduct) >-- Gingrich whitewash >-- Inauguration "oaths" taken >-- White House travel fiasco >-- Have we missed anything? > >If, indeed, all 93 U.S. attorneys, their assistants, and staff are all on >the side of the Clintons (not to mention federal judge appointees the >President has made), what chance do political dissenters have in this >country? Zero. If they are at political loggerheads with the President, >they will be disposed of through the Department of Justice, also loaded >with pro-Clinton attorneys. > >It also stands to reason that any serious investigation that involves the >President and the first lady will be blocked at multiple levels -- in >Arkansas, other parts of the country, Washington. Essentially, this >administration enjoys the protection of a secret police force that wears >three-piece suits and carries briefcases. > >With the DOJ supposedly the highest authority in law enforcement in the >nation, who investigates the DOJ? Answer: The people, through common law, >through nonstop presswure on elected officials, through demonstrations inn >the streets if necessary. > >However, with most channels of legal protest and due process >systematically shut off (just ask the Freemen about this one), people are >being cornered. Desperation and despair set in. Bombs start going off. > >But it all seemed to start in earnest back in March of 1993, the "March >Massacre" as Republican members of Congress called it. > >It might be a good idea to check the status of the U.S. attorney working >in your area. Is he/she new to the job? Were they appointed by Clinton? Do >they press charges based on political motivations? Are the hiding relevant >information from the public to protect the President? > >Please post these attorney thumbnail sketches to this list. Let's compile >them. Let's see if a secret police is, indeed, running this country. > > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: ROC List Dead Date: 26 Jan 1997 07:00:23 PST As I have not received a single post since 20 Jan., I hereby delare the ROC List Officially dead, Deceased, and Flushed down the tube. If this should somehow not be the case, then please resume posting from that date. Thank you. -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Fwd: ROC List Dead Date: 26 Jan 1997 08:27:27 PST On Jan 26, Ed Lawson wrote: >Bill I don't know what's going on.... it is alive and well. Paul Allouishous Mitchell is >keeping it busy as a matter of fact. Did you try a traceroute to the host xmission? > >You are posting ok too. > >I included the header for you. > >Ed Lawson I got your post, but not the one I sent to the list. I've tried re-subscribing, but just got a note back from majordomo saying that it was forwarding my request elsewhere, (after confirming the request), a couple days ago. Otherwise, absolutely nothing since 20 Jan. I have no way to trace anything. This is a bunch of @$#%&&*)((^&%^&^!!!!! -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: Voting to require Photo ID in Michigan (fwd) Date: 26 Jan 1997 12:43:52 -0500 (EST) Big bro takes another bite. bd ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Late last year, in the final days that Republicans controlled both houses of the Michigan Legislature, they passed a new law requiring citizen-units to show a picture ID in order to vote. This law was signed by Governor John Engler earlier this month. Here I reproduce without permission a news brief from the Lansing State Journal, which gives some reactions to the new law. Particularly interesting to me is the promise of selective enforcement from the Governor's spokesman. ' LAWMAKER SEEKS VOTER LAW REVIEW ' Pontiac -- A Republican lawmaker has asked the U.S. Justice ' Department to review a new state law that will require voters to show ' photo identification to cast ballots. ' Rep. Greg Kaza of Rochester Hills wrote to Attorney General Janet ' Reno this week to seek the review, The Oakland Press reported Thursday. ' The new law requires all voters to have a state photo ID card, such ' as a driver's license or an ID card people receiving public assistance ' are required to have. ' Kaza said Wednesday he wrote to Reno that "Public Act 583 of 1996 ' has the potential to intimidate certain classes of voters, including ' senior citizens, from exercising their democratic right to vote. They ' should not be disenfranchised from exercising their right to vote ' under the United States Constitution." ' Gov. John Engler signed the bill last week. His administration ' says it is needed to protect the integrity of the voting process, but ' critics, mostly Democrats, say it would exclude some people from voting. ' "It is our belief you need an ID in society today," Engler spokesman ' John Truscott said. "And only if you are challenged at the ballot box ' do you have to show an ID." ' Michigan Attorney General Frank Kelley already has been asked to ' issue an opinion on whether the new law is constitutional. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: ROC List Dead Date: 26 Jan 1997 09:06:28 PST On Jan 26, Chad Leigh, Pengar Enterprises Inc and Shire.Net wrote: >There has been a lot of cr*p on it since then. I will look into this > >Chad Thanks. -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Voting to require Photo ID in Michigan Date: 26 Jan 1997 13:57:58 -0700 (MST) EVERY voter registration application we have seen to date is fraudulent, because they ALL require an affidavit, executed under penalty of perjury, that the registrant is a "citizen of the United States." In Ex parte Knowles, 5 Cal. 300 (1855), the California Supreme Court ruled that there is no such thing as a "citizen of the United States" [sic]. In light of the documented failure of the so-called 14th Amendment to be ratified, there is still no constitutional basis for this second class of citizenship; it is, at best, a corporate franchise available to the inhabitants of the federal zone. You may elect to exercise this second (lower) class, and you may elect to dissociate yourself from it, by Right of Election. See the Tenth Amendment for authority. For some background information on this problem, see the essays entitled "State Citizens Cannot Vote" and "Juries in Check around the Nation" in the Supreme Law Library at URL: http://www.supremelaw.com /s/ Paul Mitchell At 12:43 PM 1/26/97 -0500, you wrote: > >Big bro takes another bite. > >bd >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Subject: Voting to require Photo ID in Michigan > >Late last year, in the final days that Republicans controlled both >houses of the Michigan Legislature, they passed a new law requiring >citizen-units to show a picture ID in order to vote. This law was >signed by Governor John Engler earlier this month. Here I reproduce >without permission a news brief from the Lansing State Journal, >which gives some reactions to the new law. Particularly interesting >to me is the promise of selective enforcement from the Governor's >spokesman. > >' LAWMAKER SEEKS VOTER LAW REVIEW >' Pontiac -- A Republican lawmaker has asked the U.S. Justice >' Department to review a new state law that will require voters to show >' photo identification to cast ballots. >' Rep. Greg Kaza of Rochester Hills wrote to Attorney General Janet >' Reno this week to seek the review, The Oakland Press reported Thursday. >' The new law requires all voters to have a state photo ID card, such >' as a driver's license or an ID card people receiving public assistance >' are required to have. >' Kaza said Wednesday he wrote to Reno that "Public Act 583 of 1996 >' has the potential to intimidate certain classes of voters, including >' senior citizens, from exercising their democratic right to vote. They >' should not be disenfranchised from exercising their right to vote >' under the United States Constitution." >' Gov. John Engler signed the bill last week. His administration >' says it is needed to protect the integrity of the voting process, but >' critics, mostly Democrats, say it would exclude some people from voting. >' "It is our belief you need an ID in society today," Engler spokesman >' John Truscott said. "And only if you are challenged at the ballot box >' do you have to show an ID." >' Michigan Attorney General Frank Kelley already has been asked to >' issue an opinion on whether the new law is constitutional. > > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: 16th amendment post mortem Date: 26 Jan 1997 19:25:17 -0700 (MST) The Sixteenth Amendment post mortem is explained in detail at: http://www.levity.com/deoxy/fz/13.htm This is Chapter 13 from the electronic fourth edition. It was never printed in hard copy, except for the custom orders we have received. Enjoy! /s/ Paul Mitchell ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: ROC List Dead Date: 26 Jan 1997 22:21:20 PST On Jan 26, Chad Leigh, Pengar Enterprises Inc and Shire.Net wrote: >>As I have not received a single post since 20 Jan., I hereby delare the ROC >>List Officially dead, Deceased, and Flushed down the tube. >> >>If this should somehow not be the case, then please resume posting from that >>date. >> >>Thank you. >There has been a lot of cr*p on it since then. I will look into this > >Chad So what happened? Still no postings.....:-( -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: Xerox is watching you (fwd) Date: 27 Jan 1997 07:38:58 -0500 (EST) Even easier to do this in the digital era. bd ---------- Forwarded message ---------- You'll find an article worth a visit to the dentist in the January 1997 issue of Popular Science. It tells a story from the 1960's cold war era. It seems that the only American who could get into the Soviet Embassy was the Xerox repairman. So the CIA and Xerox built a camera that took a picture of every copy that could be installed inside the 914 cabinet (where it would be invisble). Once a month, the repairman came by to do the ordinary cleaning and repair (those things broke down a lot). Part of the repair process exchanged the camera for a fresh load. The CIA could then read everything that was copied. The article suggests that other Xerox models had their own cameras. My back of the envelope (literally) computation suggests that one roll of 8-millimeter film would hold about 30,000 images. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Philip Freneau Date: 27 Jan 1997 06:01:41 -0700 (MST) [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] Philip Freneau: Rules for Changing a Republic [into a Democracy and then] into a Monarchy from: Organizing the New Nation THE ANNALS OF AMERICA Encyclopedia Britannica, Inc. 1784-1796 Those who had opposed the constitution thought their fears justified by the conduct of the government that began to function in 1789. Under the aggressive leadership of Alexander Hamilton, the Secretary of the Treasury, economic measures were taken that favored the few, while a effective party machine was organized and the army strengthened in such a way as to suggest an intent to control rather than to represent the many. The whole tone of Washington's administration was aristocratic, favoring as it did the educated, the wealthy, the clergy and the press, who were fearful of "mob rule" and preferred to see what Hamilton called "gentlemen of principle and property" in command. As Hamilton had at his service a newspaper -- John Fenno's Gazette of the United States -- to support his policies, his opponents, led by Jefferson and Madison, decided to establish a rival newspaper, the National Gazette. Philip Freneau, an experienced journalist of known democratic leanings, was chosen to edit the paper. The editorial, reprinted here, is typical of those in which Freneau criticized the Hamiltonian program from 1791 to 1793. Source: American Museum, July 1792: "Rules for Changing a Limited Republican Government into an Unlimited Hereditary One." Reformatted for Microsoft WORD 5.0 for DOS by John E. Trumane Account for Better Citizenship December 21, 1992 [Read aloud with heavy British accent.] Rules for changing a limited republican government into an unlimited hereditary one: 1. It being necessary in order to effect the change, to get rid of constitutional shackles and popular prejudices, all possible means and occasions are to be used for both these purposes. 2. Nothing being more likely to prepare the vulgar mind for aristocratical ranks and hereditary powers than titles, endeavor in the offset of the government to confer these on its most dignified officers. If the principal magistrate should happen to be particularly venerable in the eyes of the people, take advantage of that fortunate circumstance in setting the example. 3. Should the attempt fail through his republican aversion to it, or from the danger of alarming the people, do not abandon the enterprise altogether, but lay up the proposition in the record. Time may gain it respect, and it will be there always ready, cut and dried, for any favorable conjuncture that may offer. 4. In drawing all bills, resolutions and reports, keep constantly in view that the limitations in the Constitution are ultimately to be explained away. Precedents and phrases may thus be shuffled in, without being adverted to by candid or weak people, of which good use may afterward be made. 5. As the novelty and bustle of inaugurating the government will for some time keep the public mind in a heedless and unsettled state, let the press during this period be busy in propagating the doctrines of monarchy and aristocracy. For this purpose, it will be particularly useful to confound a mobbish democracy with a representative republic, that by exhibiting all the turbulent examples and enormities of the former, an odium may be thrown on the character of the latter. Review all the civil contests, convulsions, factions, broils, squabbles, bickering, black eyes and bloody noses of ancient, middle and modern ages; caricature them into the most frightful forms and colors that can be imagined, and unfold one scene of horrible tragedy after another till the people be made, if possible, to tremble at their own shadows. Let the discourses on Davila then contrast with these pictures of terror the quiet hereditary succession, the reverence claimed by birth and nobility, and the fascinating influence of stars, and ribbons and garters, cautiously suppressing all the bloody tragedies and unceasing oppressions which form the history of this species of government. No pains should be spared in this part of the undertaking, for the greatest will be wanted, it being extremely difficult, especially when a people have been taught to reason and feel their rights, to convince them that a king, who is always an enemy to the people, and a nobility, who are perhaps still more so, will take better care of the people than the people will take of themselves. 6. But the grand nostrum will be a public debt, provided enough of it can be got and it be medicated with the proper ingredients. If by good fortune a debt be ready at hand, the most is to be made of it. Stretch it and swell it to the utmost the items will bear. Allow as many extra claims as decency will permit. Assume all the debts of your neighbors -- in a word, get as much debt as can be raked and scraped together, and when you have got all you can, "advertise" for more, and have the debt made as big as possible. This object being accomplished, the next will be to make it as perpetual as possible; and the next to that, to get it into as few hands as possible. The more effectually to bring this about, modify the debt, complicate it, divide it, subdivide it, subtract it, postpone it, let there be one-third of two-thirds, and two-thirds of one-third, and two- thirds of two-thirds; let there be 3 percents, and 4 percents, and 6 percents, and present 6 percents, and future 6 percents. To be brief, let the whole be such a mystery that a few only can understand it; and let all possible opportunities and informations fall in the way of these few to cinch their advantages over the many. 7. It must not be forgotten that the members of the legislative body are to have a deep stake in the game. This is an essential point, and happily is attended with no difficulty. A sufficient number, properly disposed, can alternately legislate and speculate, and speculate and legislate, and buy and sell, and sell and buy, until a due portion of the property of their constituents has passed into their hands to give them an interest against their constituents, and to ensure the part they are to act. All this, however, must be carried on under the cover of the closest secrecy; and it is particularly lucky that dealings in paper admit of more secrecy that any other. Should a discovery take place, the whole plan may be blown up. 8. The ways in which a great debt, so constituted and applied, will contribute to the ultimate end in view are both numerous and obvious: (1) The favorite few, thus possessed of it, whether within or without the government, will feel the staunchest fealty to it, and will go through thick and thin to support it in all its oppressions and usurpations. (2) Their money will give them consequence and influence, even among those who have been tricked out of it. (3) They will be the readiest materials that can be found for a hereditary aristocratic order, whenever matters are ripe for one. (4) A great debt will require great taxes; great taxes, many tax gatherers and other officers; and all officers are auxiliaries of power. (5) Heavy taxes may produce discontents; these may threaten resistance; and in proportion to this danger will be the pretense for a standing army to repel it. (6) A standing army, in its turn, will increase the moral force of the government by means of its appointments, and give it physical force by means of the sword, thus doubly forwarding the main object. 9. The management of a great funded debt and a extensive system of taxes will afford a plea, not to be neglected, for establishment of a great incorporated bank. The use of such a machine is well understood. If the Constitution, according to its fair meaning, should not authorize it, so much the better. Push it through by a forced meaning and you will get in the bargain an admirable precedent for future misconstructions. In fashioning the bank, remember that it is to be made particularly instrumental in enriching and aggrandizing the elect few, who are to be called in due season to the honors and felicities of the kingdom preparing for them, and who are the pillars that must support it. It will be easy to throw the benefit entirely into their hands, and to make it a solid addition of 50, or 60, or 70 percent to their former capitals of 800 percent, or 900 percent, without costing them a shilling; while it will be difficult to explain to the people that this gain of the few is at the cost of the many, that the contrary may be boldly and safely pretended. The bank will be pregnant with other important advantages. It will admit the same men to be, at the same time, members of the bank and members of the government. The two institutions will thus be soldered together, and each made stronger. Money will be put under the direction of the government, and government under the direction of money. To crown the whole, the bank will have a proper interest in swelling and perpetuating the public debt and public taxes, with all the blessings of both, because its agency and its profits will be extended in exact proportion. 10. "Divide and govern" is a maxim consecrated by the experience of ages, and should be familiar in its use to every politician as the knife he carries in his pocket. In the work here to be executed, the best effects may be produced by this maxim, and with peculiar facility. An extensive republic made up of lesser republics necessarily contains various sorts of people, distinguished by local and other interests and prejudices. Let the whole group be well examined in all its parts and relations, geographical and political, metaphysical and metaphorical; let there be first a northern and a southern section, by a line running east and west, and then an eastern and western section, by a line running north and south. By a suitable nomenclature, the landholders cultivating different articles can be discriminated from one another, all from the class of merchants, and both from that of manufacturers. One of the subordinate republics may be represented as a commercial state, another as a navigation state, another as a manufacturing state, others as agricultural states; and although the great body of people in each be really agricultural, and the other characters be more or less common to all, still it will be politic to take advantage of such an arrangement. Should the members of the great republic be of different sizes, and subject to little jealousies on that account, another important division will be ready formed to your hand. Add again the division that may be carved out of personal interests, political opinions, and local parties. With so convenient an assortment of votes, especially with the help of the marked ones, a majority may be packed for any question with as much ease as the odd trick by an adroit gamester, and any measure whatever carried or defeated, as the great revolution to be brought about may require. It is only necessary, therefore, to recommend that full use be made of the resource; and to remark that, besides the direct benefit to be drawn from these artificial divisions, they will tend to smother the true and natural one, existing in all societies, between the few who are always impatient of political equality and the many who can never rise above it; between those who are to mount to the prerogatives and those who are to be saddled with the burdens of the hereditary government to be introduced -- in one word, between the general mass of the people, attached to their republican government and republican interests, and the chosen band devoted to monarchy and Mammon. It is of infinite importance that this distinction should be kept out of sight. The success of the project absolutely requires it. 11. As soon as sufficient progress in the intended change shall have been made, and the public mind duly prepared according to the rules already laid down, it will be proper to venture on another and a bolder step toward a removal of the constitutional landmarks. Here the aid of the former encroachments and all the other precedents and way-paving maneuvers will be called in of course. But, in order to render the success more certain, it will be of special moment to give the most plausible and popular name that can be found to the power that is to be usurped. It may be called, for example, a power for the common safety or the public good, or, "the general welfare." If the people should not be too much enlightened, the name will have a most imposing effect. It will escape attention that it means, in fact, the same thing with a power to do anything the government pleases "in all cases whatsoever." To oppose the power may consequently seem to the ignorant, and be called by artful, opposing the "general welfare", and may be cried down under that deception. As the people, however, may not run so readily into the snare as might be wished, it will be prudent to bait it well with some specious popular interest, such as the encouragement of manufactures, or even of agriculture, taking due care not even to mention any unpopular object to which the power is equally applicable, such as religion, etc. By this contrivance, particular classes of people may possibly be taken in who will be a valuable reinforcement. With respect to the patronage of agriculture there is not indeed much to be expected from it. It will be too quickly seen through by the owners and tillers of the soil, that to tax them with one hand and pay back a part only with the other is a losing game on their side. From the power over manufactures more is to be hoped. It will not be so easily perceived that the premium bestowed may not be equal to the circuitous tax on consumption which pays it. There are particular reasons, too, for pushing the experiment on this class of citizens: (1) As they live in towns and can act together, it is of vast consequence to gain them over to the interest of monarchy. (2) If the power over them be once established, the government can grant favors or monopolies, as it pleases; can raise or depress this or that place, as it pleases; in a word, by creating a dependence in so numerous and important a class of citizens, it will increase its own independence of every class and be more free to pursue the grand object in contemplation. (3) The expense of this operation will not in the end cost the government a shilling, for the moment any branch of manufacture has been brought to a state of tolerable maturity, the excise man will be ready with his constable and his search warrant to demand a reimbursement, and as much more as can be squeezed out of the article. All this, it is to be remembered, supposes that the manufacturers will be weak enough to be cheated, in some respects, out of their own interests, and wicked enough, in others, to betray those of their fellow citizens; a supposition that, if known, would totally mar the experiment. Great care, therefore, must be taken to prevent it from leaking out. 12. The expediency of seizing every occasion of external danger for augmenting and perpetuating the standing military force is too obvious to escape. So important is this matter that for any loss or disaster whatever attending the national arms, there will be ample consolation and compensation in the opportunity for enlarging the establishment. A military defeat will become a political victory, and the loss of a little vulgar blood contribute to ennoble that which flows in the veins of our future dukes and marquesses. 13. The same prudence will improve the opportunity afforded by an increase of military expenditures for perpetuating the taxes required for them. If the inconsistency and absurdity of establishing a perpetual tax for a temporary service should produce any difficulty in the business, Rule 10 must be resorted to. Throw in as many extraneous motives as will make up a majority, and the thing is effected in an instant. What was before evil would become good as easily as black could be made white by the same magical operation. 14. Throughout this great undertaking it will be wise to have some particular model constantly in view. The work can then be carried on more systematically, and every measure be fortified, in the progress, by apt illustrations and authorities. Should there exist a particular monarchy against which there are fewer prejudices than against any other, should it contain a mixture of the representative principle so as to present on one side the semblance of a republican aspect, should it, moreover, have a great, funded, complicated, irredeemable debt, with all the apparatus and appurtenances of excises, banks, etc., upon that a steady eye is to be kept. In all cases it will assist, and in most its statute books will furnish a precise pattern by which there may be cut out any moneyed or monarchical project that may be wanted. 15. As it is not to be expected that the change of a republic into a monarchy, with the rapidity desired, can be carried through without occasional suspicions and alarms, it will be necessary to be prepared for such events. The best general rule on the subject is to be taken from the example of crying "Stop thief" first -- neither lungs nor pens must be spared in charging every man who whispers, or even thinks, that the revolution on foot is meditated, with being himself an enemy to the established government and meaning to overturn it. Let the charge be reiterated and reverberated till at last such confusion and uncertainty be produced that the people, being not able to find out where the truth lies, withdraw their attention from the contest. Many other rules of great wisdom and efficacy might be added; but it is conceived that the above will be abundantly enough for the purpose. This will certainly be the case if the people can be either kept asleep so as not to discover, or be thrown into artificial divisions so as not to resist, what is silently going forward. Should it be found impossible, however, to prevent the people from awaking and uniting; should all artificial distinctions give way to the natural divisions between the lordly minded few and the well disposed many; should all who have common interest make a common cause and show a inflexible attachment to republicanism in opposition to a government of monarchy and or money, why then .... # # # ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Friends of PAM (was Samuel Adams and Hitler!) Date: 27 Jan 1997 08:42:33 -0800 You throw people off your list and then say they are "crawling away." Whew! /s/ Paul Mitchell At 06:22 AM 1/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >At 08:52 PM 1/26/97 -0700, you wrote: >>Before I even saw Dan's message, I thought to myself "OH no PAM has a new >>alias". >>I raise the motion that "E2=M2C4 + P2C2" or whomever this is, be booted off >>as a LIST PEST. > >It has just been demonstrated that there is no need to throw people like >this off the list. All you do is debate them on open ground, calling their >ideas into serious question, and they will crawl away. > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Rejected posting to LIBERTARIANS@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU Date: 27 Jan 1997 08:55:02 -0800 >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:31:08 -0700 >From: "L-Soft list server at UofA (1.8c)" > >Subject: Rejected posting to LIBERTARIANS@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU >To: Paul Mitchell > >You are not authorized to post to the LIBERTARIANS list. For more information, >please contact the list owners at LIBERTARIANS-request@LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU. > >------------------------ Rejected message (47 lines) -------------------------- >Received: from usr09.primenet.com (usr09.primenet.com [206.165.5.109]) by listserv.arizona.edu (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id HAA43330 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:31:07 -0700 (MST) >Received: from primenet.com (root@mailhost01.primenet.com [206.165.5.52]) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id HAA07345; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:31:02 -0700 (MST) >Received: from ip154.tus.primenet.com (ip154.tus.primenet.com [198.68.42.154]) > by primenet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP > id HAA22014; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:30:53 -0700 (MST) >Message-Id: <3.0.16.19970127084226.36e75170@mailhost.primenet.com> >X-Sender: pmitch@mailhost.primenet.com >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (16) >X-Priority: 1 (Highest) >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:42:33 -0800 >To: Libertarian Students at the University of Arizona >From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >Subject: Friends of PAM (was Samuel Adams and Hitler!) >Cc: Alan Gore >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >You throw people off your list >and then say they are "crawling away." > >Whew! > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > > > >At 06:22 AM 1/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >>At 08:52 PM 1/26/97 -0700, you wrote: >>>Before I even saw Dan's message, I thought to myself "OH no PAM has a new >>>alias". >>>I raise the motion that "E2=M2C4 + P2C2" or whomever this is, be booted off >>>as a LIST PEST. >> >>It has just been demonstrated that there is no need to throw people like >>this off the list. All you do is debate them on open ground, calling their >>ideas into serious question, and they will crawl away. >> >> > >==================================================================== >[Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] >[65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] >Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com >ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] >We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. >Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan >==================================================================== > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: Money -Reply Date: 27 Jan 1997 07:38:00 -0800 (PST) Your points about prices and my wording there were absolutely right. B ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: HOUSTON... WE [still] HAVE A PROBLEM Date: 27 Jan 1997 08:02:37 -0800 (PST) Ya know, when I was in high school debate, I -never- got away with shotgun blasts like this. It's not that I'm bitter or anything, just that I wish I'd gone into the conspiracy biz. -Garth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: Friends of PAM (was Samuel Adams and Hitler!) Date: 27 Jan 1997 09:02:34 -0800 (PST) Paul, what the heck are you saying here (and boy, I gotta admit that's becoming a familiar refrain). Did someone throw you off ROC?? -Boyd On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > You throw people off your list > and then say they are "crawling away." > > Whew! > > /s/ Paul Mitchell > > > > At 06:22 AM 1/27/97 -0700, you wrote: > >At 08:52 PM 1/26/97 -0700, you wrote: > >>Before I even saw Dan's message, I thought to myself "OH no PAM has a new > >>alias". > >>I raise the motion that "E2=M2C4 + P2C2" or whomever this is, be booted off > >>as a LIST PEST. > > > >It has just been demonstrated that there is no need to throw people like > >this off the list. All you do is debate them on open ground, calling their > >ideas into serious question, and they will crawl away. > > > > > > ==================================================================== > [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] > [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] > Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com > ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] > We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. > Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan > ==================================================================== > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: update: USDC, Virgin Islands Date: 27 Jan 1997 10:23:13 -0700 (MST) Dear Friends, I spoke with the deputy clerk of the United States District Court in the Virgin Islands this morning, and she quoted me a firm fee for photocopying the entire docket file in Bennett v. C.I.R, #96-146. Her name is Cindy Bertrand, and she is a very gracious woman. The total cost will be $78.50. I will pay for this out of the Supreme Law Firm's Habeas Project for Political Prisoners, a pro bono fund. But I would like to know that enough Americans are interested in helping defray the costs of obtaining this file, scanning it, and broadcasting it to clients of the Supreme Law School and the Supreme Law Firm. The minimum tuition for one month's enrollment is $10. Here is my proposal: The Supreme Law Firm will accept assignments of future sponsor credits to this particular expenditure. When you enroll in the Supreme Law School, indicate "Pro Bono Fund" in the sponsor field of your registration form. This will ensure that these expenses are properly defrayed. You may change your sponsor at any time. I have to run. Chief Justice William Rehnquist is lecturing at noon today at the University of Arizona in Tucson, and the University has graciously permitted me to audit the lecture today. I will report back on particulars, such as the fees for obtaining any transcripts and/or tape recordings of his lecture. Thanks very much! /s/ Paul Mitchell ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. 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PREAMBLE "The conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the grounds of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficient ends of its institution. Article I "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; ...." Respectfully submitted, /s/ Paul Mitchell Counselor at Law, federal witness, and Founder, Supreme Law Firm, Supreme Law School, and Habeas Project for Political Prisoners > >>Original Written by: IN:pmitch@primenet.com. > >>Fourth Amendment. See also the missing >>Preamble to the Bill of Rights, which is >>rarely published with the rest of the >>U.S. Constitution. It is engraved in brass > >Since it is so rarely published and/or missing, >why not do us all a favor and post it? > > > > >======================================================================== >To subscribe: send a message to the Tab@hollyent.com >with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject/topic field. Use UNSUBSCRIBE to >remove yourself from the list. Questions/comments/problems? > email: Not Moderated@hollyent.com or listmgmt@hollyent.com >For information about this system and its lists email: info@hollyent.com > Help to save your liberties! mailto:info@hollyent.com SUBJECT: bernie >======================================================================== >via: Sportsman's Paradise~~Online 602-922-1639 - www.hollyent.com > > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: The 100th monkey Date: 27 Jan 1997 10:48:46 -0700 (MST) Dear Friends, The noosphere is another example of the 100th Monkey phenomenon. We had tens of thousands of brilliant people working on the system, working out excruciatingly difficult technical issues, when, it seemed all of a sudden, every computer on the planet was connected and available to every other computer on the planet, using simple telephone lines. Meanwhile, the performance/price ratios of personal computers have skyrocketed by many orders of magnitude, so much so, that we now have the equivalent of supercomputers from 10 years ago on our desk tops. Just look at what has happened to prices. A good color monitor in 1977 was $50,000. I purchased a gigabyte of hard disk in 1985, and it cost $25,000. Now, you can get a 4 gigabyte Western Digital hard disk, over the counter, for about $400. I checked at Egghead this morning! I had to justify, using complex data and mathematics, an additional 1 megabyte of RAM in early 1980, and we really agonized over the extra cost of $45,000 to upgrade a great minicomputer from 1 megabyte of RAM to 2 megabytes of RAM. It made all the difference, since the operating system was a virtual memory machine, but the purse strings were frayed for a long time after that. Today, you can purchase 8 megabytes on a single in-line memory module (SIMM), for right around $100, give or take $20, plus applicable taxes and shipping. See what I mean? The next quantum leap will be the Gigahertz clocks. Look for those clock speeds before the year 2000. Don't blink ... they will be here before you know it, that's for SURE!! /s/ Paul Mitchell At 10:02 AM 1/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >>That must be the 4th reference to the 100th monkey in the last little >>while and I don't get it. Anyone care to give us a quick run-down? > >Hey Standing Bear, > >About twenty years ago Ken Keys released a little book called "The >Hundredth Monkey". It told a true story of these zoologist who were >studying these monkeys that lived on an island that is (I think) somewhere >like Micronesiea. These monkeys ate sweet potatoes as their staple diet. >They would just dig em up and eat em. Then one day while these humans were >observing, one of the monkeys dug up a sweet potato and took it to some >water and washed it off before eating it. >This individual monkey then kept doing this and soon other monkeys picked >up the practice of washing their potatoes as well. After a while every >monkey on that island was washing their sweet potatoes. When that happened >the zoologist found that all of the same species of monkeys on all the >other islands began washing their sweet potatoes. They has witnessed a step >in behavioral evolution. This effect of a whole species making a change >once a critical number of the individuals have made the change is known as >the hundredth monkey effect. >So we believe that when enough people wake up, everyone will wake up. >Also figuritively, it is good practice to think of yourself as 'the' >hundredth monkey. >Happy spud-scrubbing, >Mike > > > > >!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-!-! > For comprehensive and easily understood information on how you > can protect your property and assets from taxes, probate, lawsuits, > government forfeiture or seizure, and other "statutory" means used > to deprive you of what belongs to you, check out Asset Protection >Services website at http://www.amug.org/~trusts right now before it's >too late! Your owe it to yourself and your family to educate yourself. > > "The Constitution is a radical document... it is the job of the > government to rein in people's rights." W.J.Clinton on MTV - 1992 > >Democracy: Government by special interests, for special interests. >Free Markets: Government of the People, by the People, for the People. > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: HOUSTON... WE [still] HAVE A PROBLEM Date: 27 Jan 1997 11:01:25 -0700 (MST) There is still time to become a shotgun dealer. But you had better hurry! /s/ Paul Mitchell At 08:02 AM 1/27/97 -0800, you wrote: >Ya know, when I was in high school debate, I -never- got away with >shotgun blasts like this. It's not that I'm bitter or anything, just that >I wish I'd gone into the conspiracy biz. > >-Garth > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: : using Eudora Pro 3.0 on 80586 CPU ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gdoty@earthlink.net (Greg Doty) Subject: Fwd: Articles of Alliance, Southeastern States Militia Date: 27 Jan 1997 10:22:52 -0800 (PST) >From: Clido@aol.com >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 01:10:08 -0500 (EST) >cc: dragoon@fxbbs.com >Subject: Fwd: Articles of Alliance, Southeastern States Militia >X-UIDL: c0a3512b0377d44da832cb67b6e17706 > > >--------------------- >Forwarded message: >From: rmplstlskn@flinet.com (Rmplstlskn) >To: stars1776@aol.com, clido@aol.com >Date: 97-01-27 01:06:23 EST > >In misc.activism.militia, dan3@ix.netcom.com (Danny Ellenburg) wrote: > >> >>Patriots, >> >>The following articles of alliance have been submitted to and approved >>by the Southeastern States Militia. We are asking for support from >>your militia. You can also contact me at (864) 306-1596, or by mail >>at: 202 Day Street, Easley, SC. >> >>Yours in Liberty, >> >>Colonel Dan Ellenburg, SCCM >>South Carolina State Coordinator >>Southeastern States Militia >> >>=========================================== >>Articles Of The Alliance Of The Southeastern States Militia >> >>Whereas it has become evident that legislation, legislative >>initiatives, and policies emanating from certain officials and >>agencies of the government of the United States, are destructive of >>the very liberties they were empowered to defend; perverting God given >>rights into mere privileges to be taken at whim, unjustly making war, >>killing and imprisoning those who would oppose them - we of the >>southeastern states militia have found it necessary to form a >>defensive alliance. >> >>We form this alliance for the defense of the minority from the tyranny >>of a majority who have believed the lie that this nation is a >>democracy, thus allowing the destruction of our constitutional, >>representative republic, and our nations descent into socialism. To >>defend against the further use of any problem or situation as an >>excuse for the enemies of liberty to attack the Bill of Rights, or its >>defenders. Also to defend life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness >>of all this nation's people. Further, to protect this nation's >>sovereignty, and to restore our beloved government to its >>constitutional boundaries. >> >>Therefore, we the militiamen of the southeastern United States, do >>affirm before God that we have entered an alliance against tyranny. >>That united, we will stand against all enemies of the Constitution and >>Bill of Rights, both foreign and domestic. That we will consider >>passage of any laws that further restrict the Second Amendment, outlaw >>the several states civilian militia, or hinder their activities in >>anyway, to be an act of war against the people of the United States. >> >>We will resist with force of arms the use of foreign troops, or the >>unconstitutional use of our armed forces, against the America people. >>We will consider it an act of war to surrender any more of the >>sovereignty of this nation to the United Nations. Thus, the >>Southeastern States Alliance will fight the New World Order, and any >>of its proponents, to the bitter end. >> >>While we will never make a first, or preemptive strike, on the enemies >>of liberty, we will consider any planting of, fabricating of, or >>evidence gained through entrapment -- that is then used to imprison >>the most junior member of an alliance militia unjustly, to be an act >>of aggression against the whole Southeastern States Alliance. We >>pledge that the unwarranted use of deadly force against any >>militiaman, within the alliance states, will be considered an act of >>war that will bring a swift response from all the alliance militia. >>Plainly states, any illegal, unconstitutional action that deprives an >>alliance militiaman of life or liberty, will be an act of aggression >>against all, responded to by all of the Southeastern States Alliance >>militia. >> >>Before our God, we swear an oath to each other to uphold this Alliance >>Agreement with our honor, wealth, liberty, and lives. We pledge to >>set aside our personal welfare for the sake of the alliance, our >>states, and nation. That we will work together as brothers and >>sisters for the cause of the patriotic struggle, knowing that with our >>unity and God's help, the victory is ours! >> >> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -=> Rmplstlskn <=- >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > PGP 2.6.2 Key available > from Rmpl's WWW site: >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >"I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe ... Our >destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. >>From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their >government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess >that I do apprehend some danger. ...Daniel Webster, June 1, 1837 >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: oyishea@teleport.com Subject: REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE Date: 27 Jan 1997 12:19:00 -0800 Hopefully somebody might have some advice on the following: I have filed with my employer (a temp agency) a substitute W-8/ASSERVATION OF STATUS in lieu of a W-4. I have received three checks from them, all with employment taxes (FICA & Medicare) and income taxes (Fed & State) withheld. I have sent them letters demanding the return of my money or the laws authorizing them to act as they have. Needless to say, I have neither heard from nor received anything from them in reply. Today I received a call from the owner of the agency. She told me that the IRS is "telling" them they must have a W-4 & SSN. I have provided them with code that says neither is true. I was also informed that the agency will not provide me with any other jobs unless I comply. I told them I am complying with the law and that they are the ones acting outside of the law. The agency repeatedly said "this is an issue between you & the IRS and doesn't involve us" even thought they involved themselves by becoming withholding agents. I asked the owner to ask the IRS for the law they are asking them to follow and she flat refused to ask or do anything. I recommended that they ask the IRS to indemnify them against any lawsuits that may be filed against them and again she refused. What should be my next step. As of today they have not responded to my first Demand and Notice for the first check sent to me. I have sent a demand for each of the three checks received by me. The amount of money involved isn't much...its the principle. DAMN THE BEAST!! Still learning, Richard William, Crouch Portland, Oregon None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe 1749-1832 ******************************************* "He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave." William Drummond 1585-1649 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Re: (EMP2) Ex-President Gore's 335 Seconds (fwd) Date: 27 Jan 1997 14:27:29 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Can we promote your phone company as a unabashed supporter of the 2nd >amendment? Dear Paul Indeed yes, and thank you. You can promote us as supporters of the constitution, the whole constitution and nothing but the constitution! Blessings Steve Exegesis: A Forum Encourgaing Moral Excellence Please visit our award-winning web page at http://www.vais.net/~exegesis Exegesis Editor Steve Myers is also CEO of ExTel, a long distance telephone service in the US offering interstate calls at 9.9=A2 a minute, 24 hours a day. No inimums, no gimmicks. Just one low rate all the time. More information at http://www.vais.net/~exegesis/extel.html Post Office Box 789 McLean, Virginia 22101 USA Voice (703) 734 5656 Fax (703) 734 0606 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: George Washington's vision Date: 27 Jan 1997 14:54:50 -0700 (MST) > >G E O R G E W A S H I N G T O N'S V I S I O N > > > >The place was Valley Forge in the winter of 1777, shortly after >the signing of the "Declaration of Independence" the American >forces (greatly outnumbered) were fighting a against the British >(the most powerful nation in the world). Some believe that only >3% of the American people took part in the struggle for >independence, and many aided the British cause by giving them >housing etc. Prevalent in the hearts and minds of the American >people, was apathy, self-interests, uncertainty, and fear. It is >well known that George Washington was a man of prayer and great >courage as he would ride and lead his own troops into battle. > >George Washinton's vision is recorded at the Library of Congress > > > >THE WORDS OF GEORGE WASHINGTON (THE FATHER OF AMERICA) > > "This afternoon, as I was sitting at this table engaged in >preparing a dispatch, something seemed to disturb me. Looking >up, I beheld standing opposite me a singularly beautiful female. >So astonished was I, for I had given strict orders not to be >disturbed, that it was some moments before I found language to >inquire the cause of her presence. A second, a third and even a >fourth time did I repeat my question, but received no answer from >my mysterious visitor except a slight raising of her eyes. > > "By this time I felt strange sensations spreading through >me. I would have risen but the riveted gaze of the being before >me rendered volition impossible. I assayed once more to address >her, but my tongue had become useless, as though it had become >paralyzed. > > "A new influence, mysterious, potent, irresistible, took >possession of me. All I could do was to gaze steadily, vacantly >at my unknown visitor, Gradually the surrounding atmosphere >seemed as if it had become filled with sensations, and luminous. >Everything about me seemed to rarify, the mysterious visitor >herself becoming more airy and yet more distinct to my sight than >before. I now began to feel as one dying, or rather to >experience the sensations which I have sometimes imagined >accompany dissolution. I did not think, I did not reason, I did >not move; all were alike impossible. I was only conscious of >gazing fixedly, vacantly at my companion. > > "Presently I heard a voice saying, `Son of the Republic, >look and learn,' while at the same time my visitor extended her >arm eastwardly. I now beheld a heavy white vapor at some >distance rising fold upon fold. This gradually dissipated, and I >looked upon a strange scene. Before me lay spread out in one >vast plain all the countries of the world; Europe, Asia, Africa >and America. I saw rolling and tossing between Europe and >America the billows of the Atlantic, and between Asia and America >lay the Pacific. > > " `Son of the Republic' said the same mysterious voice as >before, `look and learn,' At that moment I beheld a dark, >shadowy being, like an angel, standing, or rather floating in >mid-air, between Europe and America. Dipping water out of the >ocean in the hollow of each hand, he sprinkled some upon America >with his right hand, while with his left hand he cast some on >Europe. Immediately a cloud raised from these countries, and >joined in mid-ocean. For a while it remained stationary, and >then moved slowly westward, until it enveloped America in its >murky folds. Sharp flashes of lightning gleamed through it at >intervals, and I heard the smothered groans and cries of the >American people. > > "A second time the angel dipped water from the ocean, and >sprinkled it out as before. The dark cloud was then drawn back >to the ocean, in whose heaving billows it sank from view. A >third time I heard the mysterious voice saying, `Son of the >Republic, look and learn,' I cast my eyes upon America and beheld >villages and towns and cities springing up one after another >until the whole land from the Atlantic to the Pacific was dotted >with them. > > Again, I heard the mysterious voice say, `Son of the >Republic, the end of the century cometh, look and learn.' At >this the dark shadowy angel turned his face southward, and from >Africa I saw an ill-omened spectre approach our land. It flitted >slowly over every town and city of the latter. The inhabitants >presently set themselves in battle array against each other. As >I continued looking I a saw bright angel, on whose brow rested a >crown of light, on which was traced the word `Union,' bearing the >American flag which he placed between the divided nation, and >said, `Remember ye are brethren.' Instantly, the inhabitants, >casting from them their weapons became friends once more, and >united around the National Standard. > > "And again I heard the mysterious voice saying, `Son of the >Republic, look and learn.' At this the dark, shadowy angel >placed a trumpet to his mouth, and blew three distinct blasts; >and taking water from the ocean, he sprinkled it upon Europe, >Asia and Africa. Then my eyes beheld a fearful scene: from each >of these countries arose thick, black clouds that were soon >joined into one. Throughout this mass there gleamed a dark red >light by which I saw hordes of armed men, who, moving with the >cloud, marched by land and sailed by sea to America. Our country >was enveloped in this volume of cloud, and I saw these vast >armies devastate the whole country and burn the villages, towns >and cities that I beheld springing up. As my ears listened to >the thundering of the cannon, clashing of swords, and the shouts >and cries of millions in mortal combat, I heard again the >mysterious voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn.' >When the voice had ceased, the dark shadowy angel placed his >trumpet once more to his mouth, and blew a long and fearful >blast. > > "Instantly a light as of a thousand suns shone down from >above me, and pierced and broke into fragments the dark cloud >which enveloped America. At the same moment the angel upon whose >head still shone the word Union, and who bore our national flag >in one hand and a sword in the other, descended from the heavens >attended by legions of white spirits. These immediately joined >the inhabitants of America, who I perceived were well nigh >overcome, but who immediately taking courage again, closed up >their broken ranks and renewed the battle. > > "Again, amid the fearful noise of the conflict, I heard the >mysterious voice saying, `Son of the Republic, look and learn.' >As the voice ceased, the shadowy angel for the last time dipped >water from the ocean and sprinkled it upon America. Instantly >the dark cloud rolled back, together with the armies it had >brought, leaving the inhabitants of the land victorious! > > "Then once more I beheld the villages, towns and cities >springing up where I had seen them before, while the bright >angel, planting the azure standard he had brought in the midst of >them, cried with o loud voice" `While the stars remain, and the >heavens send down dew upon the earth, so long shall the Union >last.' And taking from his brow the crown on which blazoned the >word `UNION,' he placed it upon the Standard while the people, >kneeling down, said, `Amen.' > > "The scene instantly began to fad and dissolve, and I at >last saw nothing but the rising, curling vapor I at first beheld. >This also disappearing, I found myself once more gazing upon the >mysterious visitor, who, in the same voice I had heard before, >said, `Son of the Republic, what you have seen is thus >interpreted: three great perils will come upon the Republic. The >most fearful is the third, but in this greatest conflict the >whole world united shall not prevail against her. Let every >child of the Republic learn to live for his God, his land and the >Union. With these words the vision vanished, and I started from >my seat and felt that I had seen a vision wherein had been shown >to me the birth, progress and destiny of the United States." > > COMMENTARY > > Anyone familiar with the Bible and how God communicates with >his people knows that visions are experienced by people who have >faith. Consider Daniel and Paul and others. >It is my opinion that God wants His people to know what is about to >happen. > > Since the conclusion of World War II the world has seen the >increase of communism. Obviously "red" in this vision refers to >communism. Although we have seen wars in other parts of the >world our country has not had a war on it since the civil war >which is also mentioned in the vision. > > Lenin said years ago: "First we will take Russia, next we >will capture the nations of eastern Europe, then we will take the >masses of Asia. Finally, we will surround the United States and >that last bastion of freedom will fall into our hands like over- >ripe fruit." > > >This electronic reprint is made available for your information >and its historical value. > > ************************************************ > If you would like more information, or would > like to be on the Sound Doctrine mailing list > just contact us and let us know. > > All our tapes, tracts and VHS tapes are > free. Everything we offer is for free, > even our lives! > > ************************************************ > God bless! > ************************************************ > *********************************************** > * * > * SOUND DOCTRINE BBS * > * 8/N/1 24HRS * > * (303) 680-7209 * > * {PC Pursuit through Denver} * > * * > * "For the time will come when men will not * > * put up with sound doctrine." * > * -2 Timothy 4:3 * > * * > * P.O. 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Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: John Ross' Unintended consequences... Date: 27 Jan 1997 14:22:04 -0800 (PST) Finally broke down and got my own copy of John Ross' novel Unintended consequences. Leaving aside my transient irritation at the slip cover design, a quick scan assures me this is going to be a great read. One of the (smaller) reasons I didn't jump earlier, when others on roc were raving about the book, was the cost of small press books like this. Lately I've become kind of costco and used book store shopper. But for book afficianados, rest assure you're not getting a "...month club" binding or cheap pulp paper. Probably not a reason many people would go out and buy it, but fwiw this is a quality construction and not just from a plot/character/dialog perspective : ) -Boyd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: John Ross' Unintended consequences... (fwd) Date: 27 Jan 1997 15:08:09 -0800 (PST) If you want to order locally ISBN is 1-888118-04-0, publisher is accurate press. Alternately you could do a title search at www.amazon.com. Of course, one other option would be to ignore all this ; ) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Finally broke down and got my own copy of John Ross' novel Unintended consequences. Leaving aside my transient irritation at the slip cover design, a quick scan assures me this is going to be a great read. One of the (smaller) reasons I didn't jump earlier, when others on roc were raving about the book, was the cost of small press books like this. Lately I've become kind of costco and used book store shopper. But for book afficianados, rest assure you're not getting a "...month club" binding or cheap pulp paper. Probably not a reason many people would go out and buy it, but fwiw this is a quality construction and not just from a plot/character/dialog perspective : ) -Boyd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Rehnquist lectures at UofA Date: 27 Jan 1997 16:33:04 -0700 (MST) Dear America, I just got off the telephone with the Dean of Academic Affairs in the Law School at the University of Arizona, and she is going to speak with the Chief Justice, to see if he has any objections to taping the remaining noon-time lectures of the Chief Justice. I told her that there are numerous people on the Internet who will be very happy to have access to official transcripts, provided that the Chief Justice will consent to publishing them in this fashion. More on this tomorrow. /s/ Paul Mitchell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pengar Enterprises Inc. & Shire.Net LLC" Subject: ... from Skip L... Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:06:38 -0700 > >>From roc-owner@mail.xmission.com Mon Jan 27 17:00:11 1997 >Received: from mail.pacifier.com (root@mail.pacifier.com [199.2.117.164]) >by mail.xmission.com (8.8.4/8.7.5) with ESMTP id RAA05505 for >; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:00:09 -0700 (MST) >Received: from 206.163.4.156 (ip131.van5.pacifier.com [206.163.4.131]) > by mail.pacifier.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP > id PAA21940; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:59:57 -0800 (PST) >Message-ID: <32ED4414.89@pacifier.com> >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:11:52 -0800 >From: Skip Leuschner >Organization: Home >X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; U; PPC) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: roc@xmission.com >Subject: Re: Rehnquist lectures at UofA >References: <3.0.16.19970127162506.3f977750@mailhost.primenet.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >ROC-ers > >Was this one the 10th or 11th piece of PAM SPAM in my mailbox today? >I've lost count. I am obviously part of professor PAM's captive >audience, hoping the end-of-class bell will ring soon. > >I support the 1st too, but isn't netiquette supposed to govern >at some point? I could uns*bscribe, but then I'd miss the >non-PAM SPAM too. > >Anyone know a cure for cramps in the "D" finger. > >Skip. > Chad Leigh Pengar Enterprises, Inc and Shire.Net chad@pengar.com info@pengar.com info@shire.net Full service WWW services from just space to complete sites. WWW Wholesale including virtual domains. Tango. PHP/FI Email forwarding -- Permanent Email Addresses. POP3 and IMAP Email Accounts. mailto:info@shire.net for any of these. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Re: John Ross' Unintended consequences... Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:16:14 -0800 > Finally broke down and got my own copy of John Ross' novel Unintended >consequences. Leaving aside my transient irritation at the slip cover >design, a quick scan assures me this is going to be a great read. > One of the (smaller) reasons I didn't jump earlier, when others on roc >were raving about the book, was the cost of small press books like this. >Lately I've become kind of costco and used book store shopper. But for book >afficianados, rest assure you're not getting a "...month club" binding or >cheap pulp paper. Probably not a reason many people would go out and buy >it, but fwiw this is a quality construction and not just from a >plot/character/dialog perspective : ) -Boyd I *still* like the cover A LOT! :) Any of you who haven't yet gone over to www.teleport.com/~ammon/gn/cover.htm to get Triple Ought as a downloadable shareware novel had oughta do so as well; it's every bit as good as Unintended Consequences, but 1/4 the length (it's 200 pages printed out). GET IT!!! - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howlin' Blue" Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... Date: 27 Jan 1997 19:59:27 -0600 Pengar Enterprises Inc. & Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > >I support the 1st too, but isn't netiquette supposed to govern > >at some point? I could uns*bscribe, but then I'd miss the > >non-PAM SPAM too. Ditto. Those postings have gone beyond silliness, past stupidity and discourtesy to the point of obcessive psychosis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fritz Sands Subject: RE: ... from Skip L... Date: 27 Jan 1997 18:07:19 -0800 Don't you guys have e-mail filters? I put PAM in my killfile months ago. >---------- >From: Howlin' Blue[SMTP:loboazul@degas.ICSI.Net] >Sent: Monday, January 27, 1997 5:59 PM >To: roc@xmission.com >Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... > >Pengar Enterprises Inc. & Shire.Net LLC wrote: >> >> >I support the 1st too, but isn't netiquette supposed to govern >> >at some point? I could uns*bscribe, but then I'd miss the >> >non-PAM SPAM too. > > >Ditto. Those postings have gone beyond silliness, past stupidity and >discourtesy to the point of obcessive psychosis. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: (fwd)FBI Suspends Lab Whistleblower Date: 27 Jan 1997 21:39:40 -0500 >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:08:39 -0500 >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (J.J. & Helen Johnson) >Subject: FBI Suspends Lab Whistleblower > > > 01/27/1997 20:06 EST > > FBI Suspends Lab Whistleblower > > By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN > Associated Press Writer > > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The FBI has suspended a scientist-agent >whose charges led to a still-secret Justice Department report critical >of some FBI crime lab workers. A Republican senator said Monday >the suspension ``appears to be a reprisal.'' > > The FBI also took action regarding other employees criticized in the >secret report, said officials who spoke on condition of anonymity. >Three or four employees were transferred out of the FBI lab but not >suspended, these officials said. > > The agent, Frederic Whitehurst, once an FBI crime lab supervisor, >was put on administrative leave with pay Friday afternoon and >barred from entering any FBI building, even as a guest, according to >a letter from Acting Lab Director Donald W. Thompson Jr. The FBI >took Whitehurst's badge and gun, said Whitehurst's lawyer, Stephen >Kohn. > > The action came just days after FBI Director Louis J. Freeh >received a report from the Justice Department's inspector general >that officials said criticizes the work of some FBI lab employees and >a report from a special investigative counsel who looked into an >alleged press leak by Whitehurst. > > Thompson's letter said only that Whitehurst was suspended >``pending our review of information in the possession of the >Department of Justice'' and added that the move ``does not indicate >that you have engaged in any inappropriate conduct.'' > > FBI spokesman Bill Carter said the bureau would have a statement >on the matter later. > > Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, chairman of a Judiciary >subcommittee on administrative oversight, wrote Freeh on Monday >to demand that FBI officials appear Tuesday in his office to justify >the action against Whitehurst. > > ``Recently, a Department of Justice official knowledgeable about >the IG's investigation told me privately that Dr. Whitehurst had done >a service for his country in bringing forth his information,'' Grassley >wrote. > > ``The action taken by the FBI implies that he is being punished for >`committing truth.' It appears to be a reprisal for his disclosures,'' >Grassley wrote. > > Kohn said that after Whitehurst's allegation about lab misconduct >became known ``he became a lighting rod for other employees to >funnel information to the inspector general.'' Kohn said FBI officials >became ``very, very angry'' when they received the inspector >general's report and learned that ``Whitehurst funneled information >directly from other FBI employees to the inspector general and the >investigation mushroomed beyond what they had expected.'' > > Kohn said that was why Whitehurst, once rated by the FBI as its top >expert on bomb residues, was barred from entering FBI buildings >and from getting information from other employees. > > The still-secret inspector general's report is being reviewed by FBI >officials to determine whether any lab employees will be disciplined. > > The inspector general hired a panel of outside scientists to evaluate >the work of the lab after Whitehurst alleged in late 1995 that a pro- >prosecution bias and mishandling of evidence may have tainted >crime lab work or testimony on several high-profile federal cases. >These include the World Trade Center bombing, the mail-bomb >killing of a federal judge and a civil rights lawyer, and the Oklahoma >City federal building bombing. > > Prosecutors have decided not to use at least one lab employee as a >witness in the Oklahoma City bombing case and in a bank robbery >case in Ohio, sources said Monday, apparently to prevent defense >attorneys from using the inspector general report to undermine any >testimony by the employee. > > Stephen Jones, counsel for Timothy McVeigh, who is charged in the >Oklahoma City case, has deposed Whitehurst and indicated he may >be called as a defense witness. > > Nearly a year ago, Whitehurst was called to an interview by Special >Investigative Counsel Joseph C. Hutchison, who was brought here >from the Connecticut U.S. attorney's office to conduct the leak > investigation. > > Hutchison wrote Whitehurst's lawyers that ``there is substantial >reason to believe that your client ... is responsible for the >unauthorized release of work-related information to Jeff Stein,'' a >freelance writer who produced an article intended for publication in >Playboy magazine. > > At that time, Carl Stern, then Justice Department spokesman, said >Playboy wrote the department to check the article's facts, which >allowed officials to learn that the article would contain information >and allegations about FBI employees that are protected from public >release by the Privacy Act. > > Stern said, ``There is no criminal investigation looking into the >conduct of Frederic Whitehurst. There's an administrative inquiry in >connection with the leak of Whitehurst's communications with the >department to a writer from Playboy magazine.'' >=========================================================== >E Pluribus Unum - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html > >P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 >Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 >"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 > > > "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A lie on the throne is a lie, still, and truth in a dungeon is truth, still; and a lie on the throne is on the way to defeat, and truth in a dungeon is on the way to victory." --Anonymous. "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: RE: ... from Skip L... Date: 28 Jan 1997 04:14:34 -0800 Then why has it taken others so long to learn this simple technique? /s/ Paul Mitchell At 06:07 PM 1/27/97 -0800, you wrote: >Don't you guys have e-mail filters? I put PAM in my killfile months >ago. > >>---------- >>From: Howlin' Blue[SMTP:loboazul@degas.ICSI.Net] >>Sent: Monday, January 27, 1997 5:59 PM >>To: roc@xmission.com >>Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... >> >>Pengar Enterprises Inc. & Shire.Net LLC wrote: >>> >>> >I support the 1st too, but isn't netiquette supposed to govern >>> >at some point? I could uns*bscribe, but then I'd miss the >>> >non-PAM SPAM too. >> >> >>Ditto. Those postings have gone beyond silliness, past stupidity and >>discourtesy to the point of obcessive psychosis. >> >> > > ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howlin' Blue" Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... Date: 27 Jan 1997 21:23:12 -0600 Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > > Then make it a private list, > or stop pretending that you > are not abridging a man's > freedom of speech. > > /s/ Paul Mitchell You seem to be missing the point. No one suggests you don't have the right to take a leak. But that don't give you the right to piss on everyone's shoes. Which, metaphorically, is what do with your spam posts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... Date: 28 Jan 1997 01:08:20 -0500 (EST) Concur. bd On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Pengar Enterprises Inc. & Shire.Net LLC wrote: > > > >>From roc-owner@mail.xmission.com Mon Jan 27 17:00:11 1997 > >Received: from mail.pacifier.com (root@mail.pacifier.com [199.2.117.164]) > >by mail.xmission.com (8.8.4/8.7.5) with ESMTP id RAA05505 for > >; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:00:09 -0700 (MST) > >Received: from 206.163.4.156 (ip131.van5.pacifier.com [206.163.4.131]) > > by mail.pacifier.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP > > id PAA21940; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:59:57 -0800 (PST) > >Message-ID: <32ED4414.89@pacifier.com> > >Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:11:52 -0800 > >From: Skip Leuschner > >Organization: Home > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; U; PPC) > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >To: roc@xmission.com > >Subject: Re: Rehnquist lectures at UofA > >References: <3.0.16.19970127162506.3f977750@mailhost.primenet.com> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > >ROC-ers > > > >Was this one the 10th or 11th piece of PAM SPAM in my mailbox today? > >I've lost count. I am obviously part of professor PAM's captive > >audience, hoping the end-of-class bell will ring soon. > > > >I support the 1st too, but isn't netiquette supposed to govern > >at some point? I could uns*bscribe, but then I'd miss the > >non-PAM SPAM too. > > > >Anyone know a cure for cramps in the "D" finger. > > > >Skip. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Chad Leigh Pengar Enterprises, Inc and Shire.Net > chad@pengar.com info@pengar.com info@shire.net > Full service WWW services from just space to complete sites. > WWW Wholesale including virtual domains. Tango. PHP/FI > Email forwarding -- Permanent Email Addresses. 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I just KNOW that Mr. Mitchell will post something that is appropriate for the list and makes sense. FATHER: Now son; you've been reading that list for a long time. He rarely posts anything that isn't either legal mumbo jumbo, or self aggrandizing requests to market his own brand of snake oil. He doesn't even have the common courtesy to crop the posts he references. He just lazily hits reply, and resends entire messages, no matter how long, even when his response is only a few words, to a message just posted. Don't you get tired of re-reading all that redundancy caused by a few inconsiderate people? BOY: Aw Dad please? Let's give it another chance huh, just for a while? Lots of the stuff on ROC is real important and interesting. Paul will do the right thing. FATHER: Okay son, but just for a short time. There are other Constitutional Rights lists where you can learn about freedom and not have to read egotistical rubbish and arrogant self-promotion, from folks with persecution complexes. BOY: Dad Look!!! Read what Mr. Mitchell put on list. >>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [lafink iz permitted now, yah, but only fur zuh next 30 zeconds] From: "John E. Morris -- The American Lawyer - New York" The Top 16 Things Overheard at the Presidential Inauguration<<< >snip< FATHER: Well I'll be damned. Will wonders never cease. ------------Less than ONE DAY Later------------ BOY: Aw Shit Dad! Look at this. >>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Supreme Law Firm Announces Internet-based Supreme Law School by Paul Andrew Mitchell All Rights Reserved (December 1996) >snip< Registration Form Supreme Law School: Internet Group Name: _____________________________________________ USPS address c/o __________________________________ ___________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________ Email address: __________________________________ Tel/Fax Numbers: __________________________________ Comments etc. ___________________________________ (use reverse side if necessary) Subscription Period (check one with "X"): 1 month [ ] @ $10.00 (sponsor credit: $1) 3 months [ ] @ $25.00 (sponsor credit: $3) 6 months [ ] @ $45.00 (sponsor credit: $6) 12 months [ ] @ $85.00 (sponsor credit: $12) .... Subscriber agrees to pay all subscription fees in blank U.S. Postal Money Orders, and a 50% handling penalty for submitting all other forms of payment...<< ------------------ >>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >snip< p.s. For the complete story, in full detail, see "The Federal Zone: Cracking the Code of Internal Revenue," electronic fifth edition, available from Us for $25 cash or blank U.S. Postal Money Order. ============================================ Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state ============================================ << FATHER: Well son, here we go again. I'm sorry to say it, but I told you so. If my boss paid me my FULL salary, in cash that I didn't have to sign for, or in blank Postal Money Orders, then I might consider not paying taxes either. Almost time to go. Dennis Baron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: An Hypothetical Father/Son Conversation Date: 28 Jan 1997 06:42:10 -0800 Whoever you are: The American Indians had a great maxim: Don't criticize a man until you have walked a mile in his moccasins. /s/ Paul Mitchell At 07:37 AM 1/28/97 -0500, you wrote: >Somewhere in cyberspace.... > >BOY: Dad, Please let me be a member of the ROC list just a >little longer. I just KNOW that Mr. Mitchell will post something >that is appropriate for the list and makes sense. What has this "BOY" posted that was exactly "appropriate for the list"? Who decides what is "appropriate for the list"? A dictator, maybe? /s/ Paul Mitchell > >FATHER: Now son; you've been reading that list for a long time. >He rarely posts anything that isn't either legal mumbo jumbo, Try buying a law dictionary. They are not that expensive, and you might use it at some time in the future, maybe? /s/ Paul Mitchell or >self aggrandizing requests to market his own brand of snake oil. I support your right to express yourself freely here, even if I disagree strongly with what you say. >He doesn't even have the common courtesy to crop the posts >he references. See maxim above. He just lazily hits reply, and resends entire messages, >no matter how long, even when his response is only a few words, >to a message just posted. If you were getting the volume of inbound email which he gets, and if you were working to keep innocent people out of jail, and if you had been lied about and stiffed and threatened with bodily harm and murder, you might find yourself in the exact same moccasins for a while. But you're not. /s/ Paul Mitchell Don't you get tired of re-reading >all that redundancy caused by a few inconsiderate people? You have a very good point here. Maybe somebody will provide me with the extra time I need to comply with precision to your every itsy bitsy rule. /s/ Paul Mitchell > >BOY: Aw Dad please? Let's give it another chance huh, >just for a while? Lots of the stuff on ROC is real important >and interesting. Paul will do the right thing. Can this "BOY" spell "merits"? /s/ Paul Mitchell > >FATHER: Okay son, but just for a short time. There are other >Constitutional Rights lists where you can learn about freedom >and not have to read egotistical rubbish and arrogant self-promotion, >from folks with persecution complexes. Ad hominem arguments never reach the merits, do they? Never! /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: TWA 800 Crash Analysis PART I (fwd) Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:02:26 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- (free 2 copy (*)--------------------(free 2 forward) TWA 800 CRASH DAMAGE ANALYSIS (PART I) (c) 1997 Ian Williams Goddard The following report presents overwhelming evidence that TWA 800 was destroyed by a missile, and that the missile -- as determined previously by TWA 800 researcher Marshall Houston and Brigadier General Benton K. Partin -- was a radio-frequency guided continuous-rod warhead missile. _________________________________________________ ANALYSIS 1_______________________________________| IF a missile struck TWA 800, THEN an object would have been seen racing toward TWA 800 moments before it exploded. FACT 1: An object was seen racing toward TWA 800. EXHIBIT A: According to the Associated Press [1] "Radar detected a blip merging with the jet short- ly before the explosion." EXHIBIT B: According to the Times of London [2], spy satellite images showed "an object racing up to the TWA jet...and smashing into it." About the spy satellite over the area, the Boston Globe [3] stated that "the satellite was probably the CIA's Satellite Data System II...equipped with a long- range, high-resolution TV camera with a sensor, known as the Heritage, that detects objects by the heat they emit." EXHIBIT C: At that same time, according to FBI investigators, "More than 150 'credible' wit- nesses -- including several scientists...saw a missile" flying toward TWA 800 [4]. _______________________________________________ [1] ASSOCIATED PRESS: FBI Searches For Evidence in Crash. Rick Hampson, 07/19/96. [2] THE LONDON TIMES: Investigators Look at New Theory of Missile Fired From Boat, 07/22/96. [3] THE BOSTON GLOBE: Officials Give Conflicting Reports on Flight 800. Fred Kaplan, Pamela Ferdinand, 07/24/96. [4] THE NEW YORK POST: TWA Probers: Missile Witnesses "Credible." Murray Weiss, 09/22/96. _________________________________________________ ANALYSIS 2_______________________________________| IF a missile struck TWA 800, THEN something would have blasted through TWA 800. FACT 2: Something "blasted through" TWA flight 800. EXHIBIT A: The Associated Press [1] reported that a crash investigator disclosed the fact that "about 41 seconds before [TWA 800] was engulfed in a fire- ball... something blasted through the right side of the aircraft." That "something blasted through the right side of the plan" is entirely consistent with the wide- spread eyewitness accounts of a missile hitting, and therefore blasting through, TWA 800. With satellite reports indicating that the missile struck the underside and with witness accounts in- dicating that it struck from the left side, plus other evidence upcoming in this report, the clearest reading is that "blasted through the right side" means that the missile come in from the lower left side and exited, or "blasted," through the upper right side. ________________________________________________ [1] ASSOCIATED PRESS: TWA Tape Adds to Suspicion of Bomb or Missile. Larry Neumeister, 07/27/96. _________________________________________________ ANALYSIS 3_______________________________________| IF a missile struck TWA 800, THEN it should have been knocked off its projected flight path, with debris falling off its pro- jected flight path corresponding to the observed angle of missile collision. FACT 3: The plane was knocked off its projected flight path, with debris falling off its projected flight path corresponding to the angle of observed missile impact. EXHIBIT A: Witnesses accounts indicate that the missile was fired from very close to the Long Island shore and to the NW of TWA 800, which suggests that the plane would be hit on the lower left side, with the missile smashing through the upper right side. This should thrust the debris to the right of the flight path, which is exactly the case, as indicated by several maps showing the orientation of debris relative to the flight path. One of the most detailed maps to be found is on the front page of the New York Times (07/29/96), which shows that the largest bodies of debris landed about four miles to the right of the flight path. The Times suggests such significant lateral debris displacement was caused by the mild wind that evening, which we must believe blew these massive pieces of plane four miles to the south. See: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/path.gif _________________________________________________ ANALYSIS 4_______________________________________| IF a missile struck TWA 800, THEN passengers would have received severe whiplash, indicating a collision and sudden deceleration. FACT 4: All passengers suffered severe sudden deceleration- induced whiplash. EXHIBIT A: Newsday [1] reported that: A majority of passengers aboard TWA Flight 800 likely died in- stantly of a violent separation of the skull from the spinal cord -- a sledge-hammerlike blow to the head caused by a sudden, drastic change in the aircraft's speed and direction, the Suffolk County medical examiner said... EXHIBIT B: Reuters [2] reported that: "The most likely injury, and I think that happened to everyone up there, is that they got a phenomenal whiplash," he said. "First of all, massive facial and head injuries from hitting the seat in front of them and then a secondary whiplash back- ward which basically was going to sever all function of the brain stem." Such a sudden forward thrust of the head is proof positive that TWA 800 smashed into something that halted the forward motion of the plane, yet pas- senger's heads continued moving forward, slamming into the seats in front of them just as a child without a seat belt would continue moving forward after the forward motion of the car was suddenly halted by a collision with another object. This forensic evidence proves that something collided with TWA 800. If, as some have suggested, the neck-breaking force was caused by the force of the wind suddenly whipping through the opened cabin, then heads would be blown only backwards. If this were the case, not only would the high-backed seats stop heads from bending backwards to a breaking point, but most important, passengers would not have suffered "massive facial and head injuries from hitting the seats IN FRONT of them," as the medical examiner reported to be the case. EXHIBIT C: Knight-Ridder [3] reported that most passengers died due to injuries induced by a "sudden deceleration" of the plane. An explosion on-board from an on-board source would not cause such sudden deceleration. CONCLUSION: This sudden change of direction and speed, described by the medical examiner as akin to "smashing into a brick wall" [4], clearly de- scribes a collision that another object that violently altered the forward motion of TWA 800. Whiplash, or cervical acceleration/deceleration syndrome (CADS), is proof of a massive force of collision with an object traveling along a vector contrary to TWA 800's vector. Case closed. An on-board explosion where the source of the ex- plosion is traveling at rest with respect to the plane would exert force isotropically, or uni- formly over the space in the plane, that would not significantly, if at all, alter the plane's motion except to the extend it caused the plane to begin a downward trajectory. This forensic evidence clearly confirms that the catastrophic damage experienced by TWA 800 must have resulted from a collision with another object. When we factor in that over 150 people saw a mis- sile-like object streak toward and collide with TWA 800, logic dictates that TWA 800 was destroyed by a missile, period. ___________________________________________ [1] NEWSDAY: Most aboard died instantly, says examiner. Al Baker, 08/08/96. [2] REUTERS: Pathologist Says Most TWA Victims Died Quickly, (08/20/96). [3] KNIGHT-RIDDER NEWSPAPERS: Investigators Searching for Signs of Explosion. Aaron Epstein and James R. Carroll, 07/19/96. [4] ASSOCIATED PRESS: Coroner Says Injuries Reveal Sudden Deaths. Larry Neumeister, 08/08/96. _________________________________________________ ANALYSIS 5_______________________________________| IF a missile struck TWA 800 utilizing a radio-frequency (RF) guidance system, THEN the electronics systems should be destroyed immediately and simultaneously. FACT 5: Electronic systems were destroyed immediately and simultaneously. EXHIBIT A: Under a headline reading "Devices Stopped in Unison," The New York Times [1] reported: The flight data recorder on board ...showed all systems functioning normally until the device suddenly stopped functioning -- at virtually the same moment the cockpit voice recorder picked up a final, loud noise, Federal officials said... At 8:31, about 12 minutes after the plane took off...its trans- ponder stopped sending the elec- tronic signal.... At virtually the same moment, Mr. Frances said, the cockpit voice recorder stopped recording. The (1) flight data recorder, (2) the cockpit voice recorder and (3) the transponder all stopped at roughly the same instant, indicating an instan- taneous destruction of the electronics system. This suggests, while the entire plane was not instantly destroyed but flew onwards prior to the large blast, that a portion that was destroyed first included the electrons systems housed in the forward-fuselage section. Such instantaneous destruction in the region of maximum radio-fre- quency radiation, when coupled with the evidence of a missile heading toward the plane, indicates that the plane was hit by a radio-frequency (RF) guided missile. The RF hot-spot is in the forward fuselage section, which as we shall see, was the area that experi- enced the initial catastrophic destruction. The electronics bay is just to the rear of the forward landing gear, and the transponder antenna is also in the forward section just forward of the leading edge of the wings. This is exactly the region in which something "smashed through the plane." EXHIBIT B: The RF missile is a type of Anti-Radia- tion Missile (ARM), or a beam-ridering missile, that rides the radio signals emitting from the target to home in on the target for the kill. From the U.S. Naval Weapon School Textbook, Chapter 16: 16.4.2.3 Passive Homing. Passive homing depends only on the target as a source of tracking energy. This energy can be the noise rad- iated by a ship or submarine in the case of a passive homing torpedo, RF radiation from the target's own sensors in the case of an anti-radiation (ARM) weapon... CONCLUSION: Instantaneous destruction of the electronics systems is wholly consistent with a hit delivered by an RF guided missile. The fact that the initial and maximum damage was delivered to the forward-fuselage section virtually dictates that the TWA 800 killer missile was RF homing. ______________________________________________ [1] THE NEW YORK TIMES: Backing a Bomb Theory: Devices Stopped in Unison. Matthew Purdy, 07/27/96. _________________________________________________ ANALYSIS 6_______________________________________| IF a missile struck TWA 800 utilizing a radio-frequency (RF) guidance system, THEN the forward section, which houses the electronics bay and transponder antennas, would be the location of the first and the most damage. FACT 6: The forward section was the location of the first and the most damage. EXHIBIT A: After "something blasted through the right side of the aircraft" the nose of the plane, which contained the cockpit and the first class section, was severed from the main fuselage. As the Boston Globe [1] reported, the initial event "tore the nose of the plane off first. The cockpit crew and first-class passengers apparently hurtled into the night sky..." As the Associated Press [2] reported: "[T]he cock- pit and first-class section blew off at 13,700 feet. The rest of the plane traveled several miles further before exploding in a huge fireball." EXHIBIT B: Having fallen first, the front section hit the water 1.5 miles closer to the airport than the center and rear portion of the plane. As the Washington Post [3] reported: TWA Flight 800 broke apart shortly after some catastrophic event, with the nose and forward passenger cabin hitting the Atlantic Ocean a mile and a half before the wings and rear cabin, investigators said yesterday. Navy divers have found new pieces of aircraft debris that, coupled with enhanced radar data, indicate that the wings and rear passenger cabin flew on alone for perhaps 24 seconds after the front of the aircraft broke away. The main section then disintegrated in a fireball. NTSB Vice Chairman Robert Francis declined to speculate about what may have happened to produce the debris pattern, but he said, "Things that come off first tend to be indicators of what happened." As Newsday [4] reported it: "[T]he front of the plane actually fell into the water closer to Kennedy Airport than the rest of it, indicating that the plane had been 'decapitated.'" EXHIBIT C: The evidence clearly indicates that the something that "blasted through the plane" must have blasted through the front of the plane and that it did so BEFORE the explosion of the fuel tanks. This clearly dictates that the much promoted "center fuel tank explosion" was not the primary cause, but would have been a secondary effect of something that "blasted through the plane." As the New York Times [5] stated: Investigators examining the wreckage...concluded that the center fuel tank burned as many as 24 seconds after the initial blast that split apart the plane, a finding that deals a serious blow to the already remote possibility that a mechanical accident caused the crash, officials said on Tuesday..." EXHIBIT D: The New York Times [6] reported that the front landing gear of TWA 800 showed exceptionally "heavy damage." As the New York Times reported: One investigator...[said] "The vast majority of the wreckage has been these torn, mangled pieces of thin metal, from the fuselage. This [however] was a huge piece of thick steel, and it had been blasted is the only way to describe it." "For more than a week," he said, "everyone had been sift- ing through this wreckage, des- perately searching for some sign of the explosion... Then you see it, the kind of visible damage that had been done [to the landing gear], you just know it." See: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/74703.gif EXHIBIT E: Not only was the front hit first and hardest, but passengers in the front where also hit hardest. As the New York Times [7] reported: Officials said yesterday that the catastrophic event...occurred near the front of the airplane, Joseph Cantamessa Jr., a special agent in charge of the F.B.I. New York office, said the bodies of victims sitting near the front of the plane showed more severe injuries, indicating they "experienced the bulk of the significant event." EXHIBIT F: I interviewed Roland Penney, who has also been interviewed in the media. Mr. Penney not only saw "a thin white line" fly up and hit the plane, but he also participated in the re- covery of bodies almost till sunrise the next day. He recovered bodies from the debris field that contained the rear-to-mid section of the plan. He said that all of the many bodies he saw were in pristine condition: "not a hair burned or limb lost." As it was reported that "Many bodies were badly mutilated," [8] indeed they were so severely mangled that identification other than by DNA was impossible, the evidence clearly suggests -- based on Mr. Penney's account, the above testimony of investigators, and the evidence of a maximum im- pact in the forward section -- that the bodies mangled beyond recognition must have been from the forward section of the plane, where it is all too clear that a kinetic-energy warhead "blasted through the plane." CONCLUSION: It is beyond dispute that the evidence proves that the initial event occurred in the for- ward fuselage section of the plane, and that the most servere damage also occurred in the forward section. It is nothing short of scandalous that the NTSB would attempt, in light of proof to the contrary, to persuade the public that the initial event was an explosion of the center fuel tank. See: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/74703.gif _____________________________________________ [1] THE BOSTON GLOBE: Recovery of Debris From 747 Made Priority. 07/28/96. [2] ASSOCIATED PRESS: If There Was a Bomb, It Probably Was in With The Luggage. Pat Milton, 07/31/96. [3] THE WASHINGTON POST: Nose Broke off First. Don Phillips, 07/29/96. [4] NEWSDAY: Three Theories, Few Answers. Craig Gordon and Liam Pleven, Aug. 8, 1996 [5] THE NEW YORK TIMES: Examination of Fuel Tank Deals Blow to Mechanical Failure Theory. Don Van Natta Jr., 08/14/96. [6] THE NEW YORK TIMES: Landing Gear Provides Evidence of Bomb. Matthew L. Wald, 07/31/96. [7] THE NEW YORK TIMES: Airliner Bombing Reviewed For Similarities. Matthew Purdy, 07/30/96. [8] THE NEW YORK TIMES: Dozens of Bodies Found With Debris. Matthew Purdy, 07/23/96. END OF PART I ************************************************************************ IAN GODDARD (igoddard@erols.com) Q U E S T I O N A U T H O R I T Y VISIT Ian Goddard's Universe -----> http://www.erols.com/igoddard ________________________________________________________________________ TWA 800: THE FACTS --> http://www.erols.com/igoddard/twa-fact.htm WACO - WTC - OKC ---> http://www.erols.com/igoddard/facts.htm (c) 1996 Ian Williams Goddard - (*) free to copy nonprofit w/ attribute. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: TWA 800 Crash Analysis PART II (fwd) Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:02:40 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- (free 2 copy (*)--------------------(free 2 forward) TWA 800 CRASH DAMAGE ANALYSIS (PART II) (c) 1997 Ian Williams Goddard _________________________________________________ ANALYSIS 7_______________________________________| IF a missile struck TWA 800 utilizing a radio-frequency (RF) guidance system, THEN the missile would strike the forward fuselage underbelly of the plane, and there would be evidence of massive upward forces following the upward course of the missile warhead. FACT 7: There is proof of mas- sive upward forces in the for- ward-fuselage section. EXHIBIT A: The Associated Press [1] reported that: Asked to comment Thursday on reports that fragments of first- class passengers' china were found embedded in the walls and ceiling of the cabin, Kallstrom [FBI chief investigator] said, "I wish that I could answer that but I'm just not going to comment." CONCLUSION: This proves that extreme force were exerted upon the forward fuselage section, frag- mentizing not only the forward section plane, but china inside the forward section, and that this fragmented china was blasted in an upward direction with such fantastic force being tran- sferred from the source of the initial event to the china that its fragments suddenly became like bullets, penetrating the walls and ceiling. It's also clear from Kallstrom's statement above, "I wish that I could answer that but I'm just not going to comment," that this critical and highly revealing information was quickly concealed from the public. Such upward force would be consistent with the upward trajectory of a missile smashing through the underside of the plane just as the satellite data cited previously showed. Furthermore, it indicates that the missile transferred kinetic energy to those things it struck, thrusting them along its course rather than spreading them out- ward as an exploding warhead would do. This clearly indicates a nonexplosive missile that destroyed the plane with its kinetic energy. _________________________________________________ [1] ASSOCIATED PRESS: 15 Days After Plane Blew Up, Still Little Hard Proof of Bomb. Pat Milton, 08/02/96. ________________________________________________ ANALYSIS 8______________________________________| IF a RF homing missile with a continuous-rod (CR) warhead struck TWA 800, THEN the plane should be chopped into two or three segments. Very likely the first being the fore- most "nose" of the plane, the second being the mid to center section of the plane, and the third being the largest center to rear of the plane. The reason for this specific segmentation is that it puts the electronics bay transponder antenna roughly in the center of the circular CR warhead "hoop." FACT 8: The clearest reading of the available information indi- cates that the plane was initi- ally chopped into three segments. CUT ONE: First-class / business-class interface SEGMENT ONE: Seat rows 1 through 5, main deck EXHIBIT A: The Boston Globe [1] stated that the initial event "tore the nose of the plane off first. The cockpit crew and first-class passengers apparently hurtled into the night sky alone...." The first-class section in the B-747-100 ends at seat row number 5 and is housed in the portion of the fuselage known as the nose of the plane, which extends from the forward tip of the plane to the cockpit area and below. It is this area, the Nose, that was severed away at the First- Class and business-class interface area. EXHIBIT B: That there is a cut at the end of the First-Class section is widely reported throughout the media. The Associated Press [2] stated that the initial event "ripped through the front part of the plane, tearing off the cockpit and first- class cabin." And again: "[T]he cockpit and first- class section blew off at 13,700 feet. The rest of the plane traveled several miles further before exploding in a huge fireball." [3] One could cite dozens of identical reports pub- lished over many months that all clearly stipu- late that the nose section of the plane was cut off, segmenting the first-class section from the rest of the plane. The first-class section con- tains seat rows 1 through 5. But what most people are not aware of is that the evidence also con- firms that the business-class section, the sec- tion just behind first-class, was also segmented from the plane during the initial event. CUT TWO: business-class / couch-class interface SEGMENT TWO: seat rows 6 through 18 EXHIBIT C: A New York Times article [4] stated that the catastrophic even caused "the fuselage to snap just forward of the wings." Just forward of the wings is the rear portion of the business- class section. So besides the first well-defined cut at the first- and business-class interfaces, there was also a second cut at the business- coach-class interface just forward of the center of the fuselage. EXHIBIT D: The debris field closest to the airport, the "southwestern debris field," represented the debris that fell from the plane first. Not only were the cockpit and first-class sections found there, thereby proving that they fell first, but, according to Reuters [5], parts of the business class sections were also found there: The southwestern debris field contained the front landing gear and parts of first-class and business-class passenger com- partments... A diagram in the New York Times [6] states that seats rows 9 through 18, which are business-class seats, as well as the cargo bins, which are located below the business-class section, were also found in the debris field closest to the airport. So the nose section of the plane containing the first-class section and cockpit was torn off -- that is, it was removed from the business-class section, which is the forward-fuselage section be- hind the nose section. However, the business class section was also torn off from the coach-class, or center-to-rear fuselage sections of the plane. This means the plane was generally ripped into three segments: (1) first-class segment, (2) business- class segment, and (3) the center-to-rear portion that flew onwards, crashing into the sea further from the airport. Evidence indicates that the second segment was severely pulverized. See: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/74701.gif EXHIBIT E: The Continuous-Rod (CR) Warhead: The "Naval Warfare Class of the United States Naval Academy," (chapter 13) states: 13.4.4 Continuous-Rod Warheads Upon detonation [prior to hitting the target], the continuous-rod payload expands rapidly into a ring pattern. The intent is to cause the connected rods, during their expansion, to strike the target and produce damage by a cutting action. Throughout the media, words used to describe the catastrophic damage to TWA 800 have been that the plane was "cut," "torn," "ripped," or "chopped." The book "Fighter Combat, Tactics and Maneuvering," by Robert Shaw (page 45) states: The continuous-rod warhead... is comprised of many short lengths of steel rod placed side by side in an annular arrangement around the explosive material. The rods are welded together at alternate ends so that when detonation occurs they expand outward in a solid, continuous ring, much like an expanding watch band, until reaching their maximum radius. In theory this contin- uous-rod is more likely to cut through control cables, hydraulic and fuel lines, and structural members than are individual fragments [in blast-fragmenta- tion warheads]. EXHIBIT F: Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, a noted weapons expert who researched and designed many warheads while heading the U.S. Air Force Armaments Laboratory, gave his expert analysis of the TWA 800 disaster [7]: To obtain the kind of massive structural damage we see here, a bomb would have to produce much greater internal explosive de- struction than has been reported. And you could hit a big 747 with several Redeyes or Stingers and still not bring it down. [W]hen you design a missile war- head to destroy a bomber, you always want to get what we call a 'K-kill,' meaning a massive, instantaneous, structural failure which 'kills' -- brings down -- the aircraft. The only kind of missile I know of for that kind of structural kill...is a prox- imity-fused, continuous-rod missile warhead. A CR warhead is a kinetic-energy weapon that kills by sheer force of collision, not by the force of a chemical explosion. The proximity-fuse detonation associated with the CR warhead serves to release the CR payload from the warhead nose of the missile just prior to target impact. About the CR warhead, The New American states: "The proximity fuse would detonate when the mis- sile approaches the aircraft, causing a long, accordion-like steel rod to unfold at high velocity, slicing the target in two." CONCLUSION: From what we know about the recovered wreckage of TWA 800 it is clear that the initial event occurred in the nose and forward fuselage sec- tions of the plane, not in the area of the center fuel tank, as the NTSB is misleading us to believe. What is more, the initial damage done to the plane is so consistent with a hit by an RF homing CR war- head missile that the damage profile fits the shape of an IR homing Cr warhead like a glove. The extent of the catastrophic damage that cut through the plane at two points about 50 feet apart, pulveriz- ing the entire forward fuselage area and all those therein, is totally inconsistent with a hit by small shoulder-fired missile, which have diameters around 4 inches. The only known warhead that could account for such instantaneous and widespread struc- tural-member shearing-damage is the continuous-rod warhead. See: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/74702.gif ______________________________________________ [1] THE BOSTON GLOBE: Recovery of Debris From 747 Made Priority. 07/28/96. [2] ASSOCIATED PRESS: Blast Was in Front of Plane. Pat Milton, 07/28/96. [3] ASSOCIATED PRESS: If There Was a Bomb, It Probably Was in With The Luggage. Pat Milton, 07/31/96. [4] THE NEW YORK TIMES: Search for Clues Shifts East. Andrew C. Revkin, 08/29/96. [5] REUTERS: TWA Probe Focusing on Front of Aircraft. 07/28/96. [6] THE NEW YORK TIMES: At The Site: Remnants of Flight TWA 800. B5, 07/30/96. [7] THE NEW AMERICAN. 10/14/96. _________________________________________________ ANALYSIS 9_______________________________________| IF a RF homing missile with a continuous-rod (CR) warhead struck TWA 800, THEN there would not be evidence of explosives damage, such as pock- marked metal, inside the plane, but there would likely be such damage outside the plane caused by the proximity-fuse detonation of the CR warhead outside the plane. FACT 9: There was not explosives damage inside the plane, but there was explosives damage outside. EXHIBIT A: The New York Times [1] reported that the "Holy Grail" of explosives evidence, pocked marked metal was found on the outside of the plane: According to several Federal officials and investigators, a preliminary examination of a fragment from the wreckage, with a sophisticated machine designed to detect residues of powerful explosives,... was...borderline positive... ...investigators said they were intrigued that the metal was pockmarked in a way that was consistent with the sort of damage caused by an explo- sive device. They also noted that the piece came from the underside of the wing... As an illustration on the front page of the New York Times (08/23/96) indicates, this portion was from the leading edge of the right wing closest to the fuselage. The fact that the metal seems to have had not only traces of pockmarks but PETN is some heavy-duty evidence. Such outside explosives evidence is consistent with an external proximity-fuse detonation such as that associated with the CR warhead. EXHIBIT B: The USA Today [2] reported on the pos- sibility that the plane was hit by a nonexploding missile, such as a dud, quoting an investigative source as follows: "There is no evidence of it exploding inside the aircraft," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "There would have been all kinds of blast damage if it did and we are just not seeing that." However, and this is critical, with no evidence of an internal explosion, and yet evidence of a minor external explosion, the evidence tends to dictate that an external blast such as that of a proximity fuse detonation released a kinetic-energy weapon -- that is, a nonexplosive warhead -- such as a continuous-rod warhead. EXHIBIT C: The Associated Press [3] reported that investigation chiefs said there was not evidence of an explosion in the forward areas most severely impacted, such as the cockpit: Francis also said Tuesday that investigators untangling the cockpit wreckage found intact instrument dials and even an unbroken light from the top of the stairs to the 747's upper deck. "The light was intact -- the globe as well as the bulb in the light was intact," he said. "You have this mass of wreckage, but in that, things that are relatively the way they were before the accident." CONCLUSION: With the evidence of massive force being exerted upon the nose and forward-fuselage areas that sliced the plane in 2 locations, and with evidence of blast damage only outside the plane, the physical evidence is -- as General Partin stated -- only consistent with an RF guided CR warhead hitting the plane. When we add to this the fact that radar, a satellite, and over 150 people reported that a missile streaked toward TWA 800 prior its sudden annihilation, it's an open and shut case: a missile, most likely RF homing with a CR warhead, killed TWA 800. _________________________________________________ [1] THE NEW YORK TIMES: Test on Debris May Indicate Explosives. Matthew Purdy, 07/23/96. [2] USA TODAY: Missile Theory Getting a Closer Look. 11/13/96. [3] ASSOCIATED PRESS: Divers Find Suitcases in Debris Field Closest to Airport. Richard Pyle, 08/0696. __________________________ SPECIAL THANKS to my TWA 800 research associates: Mashall Houston Richard Russell Thomas Shoemaker ************************************************************************ IAN GODDARD (igoddard@erols.com) Q U E S T I O N A U T H O R I T Y VISIT Ian Goddard's Universe -----> http://www.erols.com/igoddard ________________________________________________________________________ TWA 800: THE FACTS --> http://www.erols.com/igoddard/twa-fact.htm WACO - WTC - OKC ---> http://www.erols.com/igoddard/facts.htm (c) 1997 Ian Williams Goddard - (*) free to copy nonprofit w/ attribute. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Open Letter to Leroy Schweitzer Date: 28 Jan 1997 07:20:50 -0800 Mr. Leroy Schweitzer c/o Yellowstone County Jail 3165 King Avenue East Billings, Montana state January 28, 1997 Dear Mr. Schweitzer, I get asked this question quite often, so please do not take it personally, or get offended, because I do believe it is a perfectly good question, and also appropriate during these uncertain times in America. Are you a federal agent of any kind? I am not a federal agent of any kind, and I have filed an affidavit to that effect in the United States District Court in downtown Los Angeles, California. If you require a certified copy of my affidavit, complete with the Clerk's conforming stamp, I will be happy to provide you with one, free of charge. I will look forward to your prompt and considerate response. /s/ Paul Mitchell copy: The Internet ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Major Financial Groups in Crisis (fwd) Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:14:22 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From eplurib@megalinx.net Mon Jan 27 20:27:45 1997 X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Lines: 106 01/27/1997 01:45 EST Major Financial Groups in Crisis By HARRY DUNPHY Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) -- With private markets taking the economic lead in the developing countries, the World Bank and International Monetary Fund are facing identity crises. Critics say the 50-year-old sister institutions should be cast aside as useless anachronisms in the post-Cold War world. Others think they will redesign themselves, adapt to the mentality and culture of the free market and maintain their traditional roles, particularly in the poorest countries that private investors ignore. Created for a world that no longer exists, the two organizations judge governments and make decisions that can affect millions of people. They lend billions of dollars a year and indirectly control tens of billions more. Housed in 17 buildings two blocks west of the White House and employing more than 10,000 people, the bank and the fund are among the least-understood and least-examined institutions in the capital. One hard-line critic, James Bovard of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, said they ``should be phased out or shut down because there's no reason for them to exist.'' At the Overseas Development Council, another research group, president John Sewell, recognizes the problem but thinks it can be fixed. The two organizations, he said, ``were not designed to operate a global economy and must rethink their roles.'' All that considered, economist Morris Goldstein at the Institute for International Economics said the world still needs the World Bank and the IMF. Vast amounts of private investment go to developing countries, but ``these flows are volatile,'' he said. ``There still will be a need for official money that only these organizations can provide.'' The private sector has $230 billion invested in underdeveloped countries, four to five times the amount of government aid. But 80 percent of private money goes to countries such as China, Thailand, Singapore and Indonesia, where economic prospects are good. Sub- Saharan Africa gets only 2 percent. The World Bank and the IMF are known as the Bretton Woods institutions for the town in New Hampshire where a conference in July 1944 established them to create a new economic order from the ruins of World War II. They used to be secretive organizations but have become more open in recent years to show they remain relevant. ``We have to get over the stereotypes of the bank being tough, arrogant, not listening, dictating,'' World Bank President James D. Wolfensohn said. The bank was established to help rebuild Europe, the IMF to monitor a new monetary system. As Europe recovered, both organizations took on new roles. The bank now concerns itself with how poor nations can improve themselves, and the fund with rescuing countries after their economies become dysfunctional. ``This is a new development world in which we operate,'' Wolfensohn said. ``It is no longer a world for stars. It is not a world for a giant World Bank or a giant Monetary Fund, because we no longer are giants.'' Other players include the U.N. system, regional development banks for Europe, Asia, Latin America and Africa, bilateral institutions, the European Union and the World Trade Organization, he said. In recent years, the IMF won praise for helping prop up the battered Mexican economy. The World Bank has become the mother ship of multilateral development banks, lending more than $20 billion a year to governments in 138 countries on four continents. It's not always easy. Leftist groups attack the institutions for driving poorer countries deeper into debt by forcing them to adopt free-market policies. Those on the right criticize them for propping up inefficient governments and retarding private-sector initiative. Two years ago, 200 aid and environmental activists started a campaign called ``50 Years is Enough'' with the aim of abolishing the bank and the fund. The Worldwatch Institute, an environmental research and advocacy group, criticized the World Bank in its annual report for continuing to lend money to projects generating carbon emissions that harm the environment. =========================================================== E Pluribus Unum - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 ----- End Included Message ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Howlin' Blue" Subject: Re: An Hypothetical Father/Son Conversation Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:30:45 -0600 > Ad hominem arguments never reach the merits, do they? Never! /s/ Paul Mitchell Interesting how this is "spun." The father/son skit was in no way "as hominem". It factually pointed out that PAM's SPAM is just that in that it is repetitive, self-serving, frequently makes no sense, often begs for money and does all of the above in total disregard of the rights and interests of most if not all the other list members. There is no personal attack in those words, just a simple statement of the facts of the matter. If Mr. Barron, or anyone else, said that PAM is a dim-witted beggar with his head stuck foresquare in his ass who has no love or regard for the rights of his fellow human beings and seeks to embellish his own ego at the expense of others; that might or might not be a personal attack as the allegations may or may not be true. No one has enough information to take those statements at face value. If Mr. Barron, or anyone else, said that PAM and his SPAM is the most boring, inane, senseless shit on the internet and that he sincerely hopes PAM is sterile so he doesn't breed and clone himself, THAT would be a personal attack, even though some of the statements made are demonstratably true. It's the tone of voice, you see. Of course, no one has made the statements of the latter two paragraphs. Mr. Barron's post was at harshest a mild satire. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neil@jove.geol.niu.edu (Neil Dickey) Subject: RE: ... from Skip L... Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:44:40 -0600 Fritz Sands wrote: >Don't you guys have e-mail filters? I put PAM in my killfile months >ago. Those of us who do e-mail straight out of unix don't have them. We have to filter him out message by message. I've been doing it, but it got old long ago. The opinions which I have expressed herein are entirely my own, unless other- wise noted. No-one else should be held responsible for what I think. | D. N. Dickey | Virtuous motives, trammeled by inertia and | | Research Associate | timidity, are no match for armed and | | Northern Illinois Univ. | resolute wickedness. | | neil@earth.geol.niu.edu | - W. S. Churchill | | **Finger for public key** | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: neil@jove.geol.niu.edu (Neil Dickey) Subject: Re: An Hypothetical Father/Son Conversation Date: 28 Jan 1997 09:30:18 -0600 Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote in part: >Whoever you are: > >The American Indians had a great maxim: > >Don't criticize a man until you have >walked a mile in his moccasins. [ ... Snip ... ] >Ad hominem arguments never reach the >merits, do they? Never! You forced us to walk that mile, Paul, and we're weary of it. We have put up with the garbage you post for a long time, and now some of us are dealing it back to you. That's called "feedback." You have nothing to complain about. Your pretention that the criticisms levelled at you are "ad hominem" doesn't make it true. I would venture that there isn't anyone on this list who hasn't posted something he later regretted, which was useless, poorly done, incorrect, or intemperate. The difference is that most of the rest of us don't do this sort of thing as a rule, in large volume besides, and we have the good sense at least to regret what we have done. Some of us have even apologized for thoughtlessly causing offense, and tried to learn from the mistake. Now *there's* a novel thought. The opinions which I have expressed herein are entirely my own, unless other- wise noted. No-one else should be held responsible for what I think. | D. N. Dickey | Virtuous motives, trammeled by inertia and | | Research Associate | timidity, are no match for armed and | | Northern Illinois Univ. | resolute wickedness. | | neil@earth.geol.niu.edu | - W. S. Churchill | | **Finger for public key** | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: RE: ... from Skip L... Date: 28 Jan 1997 10:38:30 -0500 >>Don't you guys have e-mail filters? I put PAM in my killfile months >>ago. > >Those of us who do e-mail straight out of unix don't have them. We have >to filter him out message by message. > >I've been doing it, but it got old long ago. I read email on a Unix system using emacs (a technical editor). I could hack some eLisp code to do a filter, I suppose. I just prefer to hit that old 'k' key myself. I find Mr. Mitchell's postings entertaining and somewhat informative. They are a window into some of the legalistic thinking of some sectors of the patriot community. I think that Paul and the group would be best served if he were to limit the advertising for the Supreme Law business and also be more careful about redacting material when making a reply. My major argument with Mr. Mitchell's obvious delight over the decision in the Virgin Islands is one of practicality. Paul seems to believe that the legal system will cleave apart under a legal attack regarding definitions and jurisdictions, and empowering legislation for the IRS. I don't believe that anything is going to come of this whatsoever (except, perhaps, some jail time for the most aggressive tax protesters). Regardless of the logical validity of the arguments, the U.S. legal system is not about to undermine the authority of the Fed's major revenue generation system. Corporate America isn't about to stop withholding, and tax cases aren't about to start falling willy-nilly in Federal courts. I believe that faith in the type of analysis that Paul posts here is exactly that, faith. Its more a pseudo-religion than practical law. It is an amazing thing that the U.S. people are generally willing to support a Federal system that sucks so much economic life out of the nation. I hold some hope that some combination of IRS-reforming measures will be enacted by Congress. These include: a. shifting the burden of proof in tax court to the IRS. b. a flat-tax, with the resulting simplification of filing and elimination of income redistribution c. general investigation of IRS mismanagement and abuse of power. I belive that any of the above have a realistic *chance* of passage, as each has a real support in the Congress and a real political movement behind it. Aiding both of these reforms is the basic fact that each and every government agency, be it the FBI, the FAA, the CIA, the DOE, NASA or the IRS has immense internal problems and contradictions. The IRS does operate extralegally in the microsense, they can't make a large computer system operate at *any* budget, and they have exacted a toll of fear and loathing for a long time. ciao, jcurtis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack@minerva.com Subject: Re: An Hypothetical Father/Son Conversation Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:44:32 PST roc@xmission.com wrote : > >He just lazily hits reply, and resends entire messages, >>no matter how long, even when his response is only a few words, >>to a message just posted. > >If you were getting the volume >of inbound email which he gets, >and if you were working to keep >innocent people out of jail, >and if you had been lied about >and stiffed and threatened >with bodily harm and murder, >you might find yourself in >the exact same moccasins for >a while. But you're not. This is the point that I find so exasperatingly inconsistent. If you are so busy, why take time to post to ROC at all. It is difficult to see how taking the time to format all this correspondence helps your income or reduces the amount of mail in your in baskets to be answered. Actually, I find some of what you write some what interesting up to a point. However, maybe it is that you are so busy looking at a tree or two that you are unable to see the forest as a whole. In the mid 30's Kurt Goedel proved a most remarkable theorem: No system could be proved from within itself. I could not prove it but I suspect that one of its corollaries is that no corrupt system can be purified from within the system. Translation: While all these word games you devote so many bytes sharing with is are amusing, surely no one believes that the system is going to allow itself to collapse for such trivia. At some point some level of courts will simply look at the congressional record and decide the intent was that the laws apply to all and get back to other things. Also, I tend to look on all this advice the same way I do this steady stream of junk mail peddling new market letter the mailman brings each day: If you are so *smart* why waste your time writing junk mail when you could be easily retired or counting your billions like *Scrooge*. Heaven knows there are enough wealthy people with tax problems that given an opportunity might finance the needed judicial adventures. Perhaps ads in Media Bypass / TAS / BARRONS would be more appropriate. Finally, I am an employer. I have to deal with all these forms that have to be constantly filled out. I loathe taxes but think the proper way to get rid of them is to despise all the things governments waste money on. There is no way of being for medical care for the poor and against taxes. But getting on, while I would be happier with no government I have other things to do than arguing with it. All the pages of rules I have from the IRS imply I need to attach a number for each person I deduct / withhold money from. You may delight in finding these little things that people do not need SSNs and such but since you are not going to stand up for / be responsible for the problems you cause an employer who does not have SSNs or TINs to put on the forms you are not being responsible for your own actions. Perhaps, instead of posting widely that people do not need these numbers and causing trouble for lots of employers who already have enough problems you yourself might hire someone and encourage him to not give you the numbers and then when / if you have all the procedures down pat clear to the supreme court level you can encourage others to follow the same path Jack > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > Jack Perrine | ATHENA Programming, Inc | 818-798-6574 | ---------------- | 1175 No. Altadena Drive | fax 398-8620 | jack@minerva.com | Pasadena, CA 91107 US | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rmeldrum@abacus.bates.edu (Ron Meldrum) Subject: FBI explosives lab employees suspended Date: 28 Jan 1997 12:16:02 -0400 From today's News Brief: >* The FBI yesterday suspended four employees that work on explosives > enquiries at its crime lab. > - in response to an inquiry by the Justice Department. > - one employee, Frederic Whitehurst, is known to have criticized > the Oklahoma City bombing investigation as being compromised > due to improper lab work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: John Ross' Unintended consequences... Date: 28 Jan 1997 12:01:58 -0800 (PST) Hey, hey! Just wipe your chin there buddy. Lady justice is in enough trouble as it is. B ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cap Schwartz" Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... Date: 28 Jan 1997 12:48:53 -0800 Yeah, if you happen to have Eudora, it has "filters" built in. =C At 05:06 PM 1/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >> >>ROC-ers >> >>Was this one the 10th or 11th piece of PAM SPAM in my mailbox today? >>I've lost count. I am obviously part of professor PAM's captive >>audience, hoping the end-of-class bell will ring soon. >> >>I support the 1st too, but isn't netiquette supposed to govern >>at some point? I could uns*bscribe, but then I'd miss the >>non-PAM SPAM too. >> >>Anyone know a cure for cramps in the "D" finger. >> >>Skip. >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------- >Chad Leigh Pengar Enterprises, Inc and Shire.Net >chad@pengar.com info@pengar.com info@shire.net >Full service WWW services from just space to complete sites. >WWW Wholesale including virtual domains. Tango. PHP/FI >Email forwarding -- Permanent Email Addresses. POP3 and IMAP >Email Accounts. mailto:info@shire.net for any of these. >--------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: An Hypothetical Father/Son Conversation Date: 28 Jan 1997 13:12:47 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > Whoever you are: The message was signed Dennis Baron, bludyred (username) always signs that way. over 100 lines snipped ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: Open Letter to Leroy Schweitzer Date: 28 Jan 1997 13:20:50 -0800 (PST) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Paul this is just the kind of thing people are objecting to. This post was completely unrelated, as far as I can tell, to the broader movement to restore our constitution. If you need a witnessing service, your local bank can provide a notary service (mine charges nothing). Or you could simply send yourself registered mail and retain it unopened. The internet is -not- a valid witnessing service. Leaving aside the fact that you are imposing on the time of the hundreds of readers of this list by sending the traffic, -anyone- with the most rudimentary knowledge of Unix could sign on with your user name and retract/embellish or forge messages in your name. It's not evidentiary. -Boyd Kneeland -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMu5gWrShsEZeYU9pAQH8oAP/Qu4+7QJG3AkT3QrrOuA4dIPMP9vC7HvS aWbD+8cnBRcNe7Hko8AyiXbYCZhRps7yjscITkdccSeueGw+yDSRa8jEvU4DSWy/ aSsyvNf6ke9QQZ35FDnXn55pAWg5mu7kE8j9xC2bkbL12eC3zB+IO7i79MXeaBe+ fZ5rxsuS6uI= =Zpzr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > Mr. Leroy Schweitzer > c/o Yellowstone County Jail > 3165 King Avenue East > Billings, Montana state > > January 28, 1997 > > Dear Mr. Schweitzer, > > I get asked this question quite often, > so please do not take it personally, > or get offended, because I do believe > it is a perfectly good question, and > also appropriate during these uncertain > times in America. > > Are you a federal agent of any kind? > > I am not a federal agent of any kind, > and I have filed an affidavit to that > effect in the United States District > Court in downtown Los Angeles, California. > > If you require a certified copy of my > affidavit, complete with the Clerk's > conforming stamp, I will be happy to > provide you with one, free of charge. > > I will look forward to your prompt > and considerate response. > > /s/ Paul Mitchell > > copy: The Internet > > ==================================================================== > [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] > [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] > Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com > ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] > We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. > Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan > ==================================================================== > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: An Hypothetical Father/Son Conversation Date: 28 Jan 1997 13:23:16 -0800 (PST) Okay, let's see a show of hands of people who'd like more rhetorical lessons from uncle Jim and less "cc" messages from PAM: ME! Me Me Me Me Me Me! -Boyd On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Howlin' Blue wrote: > > Ad hominem arguments never reach the merits, do they? Never! > > /s/ Paul Mitchell > > Interesting how this is "spun." > > The father/son skit was in no way "as hominem". It factually pointed > out that PAM's SPAM is just that in that it is repetitive, self-serving, > frequently makes no sense, often begs for money and does all of the > above in total disregard of the rights and interests of most if not all > the other list members. > > There is no personal attack in those words, just a simple statement of > the facts of the matter. > > If Mr. Barron, or anyone else, said that PAM is a dim-witted beggar with > his head stuck foresquare in his ass who has no love or regard for the snip ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: RE: ... from Skip L... Date: 28 Jan 1997 13:26:33 -0800 (PST) It also misses the point of internet etiquette. We live in a time where bandwidth is barraged by multi megabyte nudie pictures (not saying that's a bad use, mind you) and companies distributing major software packages on this "free" medium. This is not the time to say it's okay to use something that was originally intended as a last ditch block to blatant abuse because it's inconvenient to ask people to use judgement (Paul). A little discretion is a good thing and frankly we could use a little more around here IMNSDHO. -Boyd On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Neil Dickey wrote: > Fritz Sands wrote: > > >Don't you guys have e-mail filters? I put PAM in my killfile months > >ago. > > Those of us who do e-mail straight out of unix don't have them. We have > to filter him out message by message. > > I've been doing it, but it got old long ago. > > The opinions which I have expressed herein are entirely my own, unless other- > wise noted. No-one else should be held responsible for what I think. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | D. N. Dickey | Virtuous motives, trammeled by inertia and | > | Research Associate | timidity, are no match for armed and | > | Northern Illinois Univ. | resolute wickedness. | > | neil@earth.geol.niu.edu | - W. S. Churchill | > | **Finger for public key** | | > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... Date: 28 Jan 1997 13:40:02 -0800 Cap Schwartz wrote: > > Yeah, if you happen to have Eudora, it has "filters" > built in. > =C > I'd heard a lot about Eudora, but didn't know what it offered that I could use. A built in PAM filter is persuasive. Thanks Skip ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Re: John Ross' Unintended consequences... Date: 28 Jan 1997 17:20:20 -0800 >Hey, hey! Just wipe your chin there buddy. Lady justice is in enough >trouble as it is. B Sniff! I've *obviously* been misunderstood! ;) It's not that I drool over the lady on the cover; rather, I find it wonderful to see "Justice" portrayed as a very attractive buxom young lady rather than the usual rather boring representation. And the jack booted thug with his MP-5 in her face with the Bill of Rights burning in the background just brings it on home... - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: "The Lawless Rehnquist" Date: 28 Jan 1997 01:15:31 -0800 [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] "The Lawless Rehnquist" by John E. Trumane January 28, 1997 All Rights Reserves William H. Rehnquist is a lawless man. In a lecture today at the University of Arizona's Law School, the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court admitted that federal judges should be punished for serious crimes, like tax evasion. A student then drew his attention to the Supreme Court's decision in 1920 which immunized those judges from income taxes. The U.S. Constitution specifically guarantees that their pay shall not be diminished during their continuance in office. Rehnquist then replied, "There has been a change in doctrine." The class has now been barred from discussing any contemporary issues, on orders from the Law School's Dean of Academic Affairs. What doctrines, if any, have changed to justify this lawless result? Perhaps the most pernicious, and least understood of these new doctrines, is the stealthy destruction of the principles of freedom. At the turn of the century, the U.S. Supreme Court issued a series of pathetic decisions called The Insular Cases. Briefly, the high Court ruled that the Constitution of the United States, as such, does not extend beyond the limits of the States which are united by and under it. Later, in 1945, under cover of the first nuclear war on planet earth, the high Court extended this doctrine by ruling that the guarantees of the Constitution extend to the federal zone, only as Congress makes those guarantees applicable, by statutes. The federal zone is the area of land over which Congress exercises exclusive legislative jurisdiction. These are areas which are under the American flag, yet they are not within the boundaries of any particular State. They are territories, possessions and federal enclaves, like military bases. Recent research has proven, conclusively, that the Internal Revenue Code, the set of laws used to collect the income tax, can only be enforced within the federal zone, and upon citizens of that zone. A Congresswoman has even admitted as much, in 1996, on official stationery from the House of Representatives in Washington, D.C. This discovery is consistent with the doctrine established in The Insular Cases, of which Downes v. Bidwell is the most notorious. In his discussion of John Marshall's immense contribution to the history of the U.S. Supreme Court, the Chief Justice made an important point of discussing the role of dissenting opinions by other members of the high Court. When queried about contemporary practices, however, the Chief Justice deferred the matter to the end of the class. It was then that the Dean of Academic Affairs explained that contemporary practices would be off-limits, on orders from Rehnquist. Is the Chief Justice becoming a bit sensitive about dissent, particularly when those dissenters sit beside him, and decide to oppose him? Consider, for a moment, the words of Justice Harlan, whose brilliant dissent in Downes v. Bidwell has already earned him a permanent place of well deserved honor in American history. Listen to Harlan explain why the slim 5-to-4 majority in that case was wrong, flat wrong. Quoting now: "The idea prevails with some -- indeed, it found expression in arguments at the bar -- that we have in this country substantially and practically two national governments; one, to be maintained under the Constitution, with all of its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and independently of that instrument, by exercising such powers as other nations of the earth are accustomed to exercise. "I take leave to say that if the principles thus announced should ever receive the sanction of a majority of this court, a radical and mischievous change in our system of government will be the result. We will, in that event, pass from the era of constitutional liberty guarded and protected by a written constitution into an era of legislative absolutism. "It will be an evil day for American liberty if the theory of a government outside of the supreme law of the land finds lodgment in our constitutional jurisprudence. No higher duty rests upon this court than to exert its full authority to prevent all violation of the principles of the Constitution." See Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901), Harlan dissenting. And so, against these immensely moving words, we judge the Chief Justice to be a lawless radical, bent on destroying the very constitution which he is sworn to uphold. When presented with clear authority that federal judges cannot be taxed, including a seminal decision in 1920 which upheld the immunity, notwithstanding the 16th Amendment, Rehnquist glibly states that there has been a "change in doctrine" [sic]. How wonderful! What he is saying, in effect, is that the Supreme Court has aggrandized to itself the baseless power to invent doctrines according as the wind should blow, not according to the wishes of the very People who ordained and established the Constitution for the United States of America, the People whom he should serve. The net result is low fascism, and it is high time we faced the terrible truth about our lawless government leaders. For fascism arrives without fanfare, like tooth decay or dry rot, behind closed walls, until the very foundation is washed away, forever. This author received today proof that federal judges are now being blackmailed. In the 1930's, newly appointed federal judges were forced to sign contracts agreeing to the income tax, or they simply were not appointed. Despite the clear and established immunity against taxation of their pay, federal judges are now being presented with the following criminal choice: either agree in writing to waive your fundamental immunity, or forget about serving as a federal judge. Forget about integrity; forget about judicial independence; forget about justice. You may attain the lofty title of Justice, but you will enjoy that title in name only. It is no wonder that well in excess of 80% of the American People are now disgusted with government, and all of its agents. Our Chief Justice is clearly a criminal if he continues to advocate taxation of federal judges, in the face of supreme laws which maintain the contrary. Federal judges are also heavy investors in the United States Prison Industries, now the fifth largest enterprise of the whole American economy. Need we say any more? Yes, we need to say more, because the incarceration rate in the land of the free is now the highest in the world, by wide margins. You can thank William H. Rehnquist for that honorable distinction. None will dare to call it treason. # # # ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: "The Lawless Rehnquist" Date: 28 Jan 1997 01:20:25 -0800 Correction: "All Rights Reserved" not "All Rights Reserves". I need new glasses. /s/ Paul Mitchell [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] "The Lawless Rehnquist" by John E. Trumane January 28, 1997 All Rights Reserved William H. Rehnquist is a lawless man. In a lecture today at the University of Arizona's Law School, the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court admitted that federal judges should be punished for serious crimes, like tax evasion. A student then drew his attention to the Supreme Court's decision in 1920 which immunized those judges from income taxes. The U.S. Constitution specifically guarantees that their pay shall not be diminished during their continuance in office. Rehnquist then replied, "There has been a change in doctrine." The class has now been barred from discussing any contemporary issues, on orders from the Law School's Dean of Academic Affairs. What doctrines, if any, have changed to justify this lawless result? Perhaps the most pernicious, and least understood of these new doctrines, is the stealthy destruction of the principles of freedom. At the turn of the century, the U.S. Supreme Court issued a series of pathetic decisions called The Insular Cases. Briefly, the high Court ruled that the Constitution of the United States, as such, does not extend beyond the limits of the States which are united by and under it. Later, in 1945, under cover of the first nuclear war on planet earth, the high Court extended this doctrine by ruling that the guarantees of the Constitution extend to the federal zone, only as Congress makes those guarantees applicable, by statutes. The federal zone is the area of land over which Congress exercises exclusive legislative jurisdiction. These are areas which are under the American flag, yet they are not within the boundaries of any particular State. They are territories, possessions and federal enclaves, like military bases. Recent research has proven, conclusively, that the Internal Revenue Code, the set of laws used to collect the income tax, can only be enforced within the federal zone, and upon citizens of that zone. A Congresswoman has even admitted as much, in 1996, on official stationery from the House of Representatives in Washington, D.C. This discovery is consistent with the doctrine established in The Insular Cases, of which Downes v. Bidwell is the most notorious. In his discussion of John Marshall's immense contribution to the history of the U.S. Supreme Court, the Chief Justice made an important point of discussing the role of dissenting opinions by other members of the high Court. When queried about contemporary practices, however, the Chief Justice deferred the matter to the end of the class. It was then that the Dean of Academic Affairs explained that contemporary practices would be off-limits, on orders from Rehnquist. Is the Chief Justice becoming a bit sensitive about dissent, particularly when those dissenters sit beside him, and decide to oppose him? Consider, for a moment, the words of Justice Harlan, whose brilliant dissent in Downes v. Bidwell has already earned him a permanent place of well deserved honor in American history. Listen to Harlan explain why the slim 5-to-4 majority in that case was wrong, flat wrong. Quoting now: "The idea prevails with some -- indeed, it found expression in arguments at the bar -- that we have in this country substantially and practically two national governments; one, to be maintained under the Constitution, with all of its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and independently of that instrument, by exercising such powers as other nations of the earth are accustomed to exercise. "I take leave to say that if the principles thus announced should ever receive the sanction of a majority of this court, a radical and mischievous change in our system of government will be the result. We will, in that event, pass from the era of constitutional liberty guarded and protected by a written constitution into an era of legislative absolutism. "It will be an evil day for American liberty if the theory of a government outside of the supreme law of the land finds lodgment in our constitutional jurisprudence. No higher duty rests upon this court than to exert its full authority to prevent all violation of the principles of the Constitution." See Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901), Harlan dissenting. And so, against these immensely moving words, we judge the Chief Justice to be a lawless radical, bent on destroying the very constitution which he is sworn to uphold. When presented with clear authority that federal judges cannot be taxed, including a seminal decision in 1920 which upheld the immunity, notwithstanding the 16th Amendment, Rehnquist glibly states that there has been a "change in doctrine" [sic]. How wonderful! What he is saying, in effect, is that the Supreme Court has aggrandized to itself the baseless power to invent doctrines according as the wind should blow, not according to the wishes of the very People who ordained and established the Constitution for the United States of America, the People whom he should serve. The net result is low fascism, and it is high time we faced the terrible truth about our lawless government leaders. For fascism arrives without fanfare, like tooth decay or dry rot, behind closed walls, until the very foundation is washed away, forever. This author received today proof that federal judges are now being blackmailed. In the 1930's, newly appointed federal judges were forced to sign contracts agreeing to the income tax, or they simply were not appointed. Despite the clear and established immunity against taxation of their pay, federal judges are now being presented with the following criminal choice: either agree in writing to waive your fundamental immunity, or forget about serving as a federal judge. Forget about integrity; forget about judicial independence; forget about justice. You may attain the lofty title of Justice, but you will enjoy that title in name only. It is no wonder that well in excess of 80% of the American People are now disgusted with government, and all of its agents. Our Chief Justice is clearly a criminal if he continues to advocate taxation of federal judges, in the face of supreme laws which maintain the contrary. Federal judges are also heavy investors in the United States Prison Industries, now the fifth largest enterprise of the whole American economy. Need we say any more? Yes, we need to say more, because the incarceration rate in the land of the free is now the highest in the world, by wide margins. You can thank William H. Rehnquist for that honorable distinction. None will dare to call it treason. # # # ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack@minerva.com Subject: Preventing Soldiers from Voting Date: 28 Jan 1997 17:58:56 PST No soldiers allowed Washington Times For putting their lives on the line to defend this country, some U.S. military personnel may lose a right they seek to preserve for everyone else: the right to vote. Worse, their own tax dollars are helping to finance their disenfranchisement. This newspaper's Ruth Larson reported last week (see story below) that the taxpayer-financed Texas Rural Legal Aid has filed a suit challenging the right of soldiers in Val Verde County, Texas, to vote by absentee ballot. "The addition of the approximately 800 virtually all Anglo or white, mostly nonregistered and nonresident voters," TRLA lawyers contended in the suit filed last month, "overwhelmed and diluted votes of the plaintiff and the other Hispanic votes." To be sure, the election results were close. Republicans won races there for sheriff and county commissioner for the first time in a century -- and by just a few hundred votes combined. But the premises of the suit -- first, that individual voters are mere cogs of some racial collective; and second, that the black collective must be protected from white voters -- are borne out neither in real life nor in the Constitution. More important, there is an obvious reason why soldiers in Val Verde County and elsewhere may have no choice but to vote by absentee ballot. As retired Army Major General J.C. Pennington put the matter in a letter to President Clinton, "TRLA contends that these military personnel are not eligible to vote in Val Verde Country because they have been absent from the county for several years. Of course they have been absent, because of their service to our country [emphasis in original]. I respectfully suggest that these citizens should have at least as much right to vote as any other citizens of Val Verde County. After all, were it not for their sacrifices, none of us would have the opportunity to vote in free elections." To make the case that these military personnel were not full-time residents of the county, TRLA attorneys tossed privacy concerns out the window and pried into some of the more intimate aspects of their lives. In a mind-numbing 24-page written deposition, TRLA inquired, among other things, into the sleeping arrangements of the soldiers and their wives, personal financial information, the names of organizations to which they have belonged and whether they had ever been charged with a felony. Oh yes -- and recipients had three days to fill out the forms, find a notary public to administer an oath to them and then get it in the mail. Have a nice day. Now if any organization had dared send such a questionnaire to non-Anglo, non-white voters, absentee or otherwise, you can be sure that civil rights groups would now be holding forth on the sinister revival of poll taxes by another name. And rightfully so, by the way. For those persons who have their doubts about allowing military personnel the right to vote by absentee ballot, it may be worthwhile to recall the words of Harry Truman. In a 1952 letter to Congress, he wrote, "About 2,500,000 men and women in the Armed Forces are of voting age at the present time. Many of those in uniform are serving overseas, or in parts of the country distant from their homes. They are unable to return to their States either to register or to vote. Yet these men and women, who are serving their country and in many cases risking their lives, deserve above all others to exercise the right to vote in this election year. At a time when these young people are defending our country and its free institutions, the least we at home can do is make sure they are able to enjoy the rights they are asked to fight to preserve." Amen. Military voters challenged in Texas election fight Ruth Larson THE WASHINGTON TIMES Air Force Maj. Paul Smith thought he was doing his civic duty in November when he voted absentee in his local elections back home in Del Rio, Texas. To his astonishment, he received a court document on Jan. 18 ordering him to fill out a 24-page questionnaire that asked about not only his eligibility to vote in the election, but also intimate details of his personal life. The lengthy questionnaire is part of a lawsuit filed Dec. 19 by the taxpayer-funded Texas Rural Legal Aid (TRLA), challenging the rights of military members to vote by absentee ballot in Val Verde County, located on the Rio Grande, about 150 miles west of San Antonio. The suit seeks to overturn Republican victories in the Val Verde County elections for sheriff and county commissioner -- the first Republicans in those posts in more than a century. The TRLA lawyers contend that Democratic candidates for the posts, both of whom are Hispanic, lost because of the influx of absentee ballots cast by members of the military. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, Texas Republican, said: "This lawsuit is an outrage; that it is being pursued by public funding is unconscionable. The notion asserted by TRLA that a voter can be disqualified because he or she is serving in the military is a cynical affront to our Constitution." TRLA receives about 80 percent of its funding from the Legal Services Corp. Some 300 such groups receive taxpayer funding from the corporation, but are prohibited from engaging in any sort of political activity. TRLA has since withdrawn from the case, after being fiercely criticized for engaging in prohibited political activities. However, its lead attorney, George Korbel, will continue to serve as an expert witness for the plaintiffs. U.S. District Judge Fred Biery on Jan. 24 postponed indefinitely the swearing in of Republicans D'Wayne Jernigan and Murry Kachel as sheriff and commissioner. A restraining order had previouly prevented them from being sworn in. Maj. Smith, who now is serving in another state, was one of the 800 military members who received the TRLA questionnaire, with orders to fill out and return a notarized copy of his answers in three days. It is an apparent attempt by TRLA to prove that both elections were decided by voters who did not live in the county and, in many cases, had not lived there for years. The 54-question deposition asks for detailed information on virtually every aspect of his life: Personal financial information involving credit cards, stocks, insurance policies, and college tuition payments; where he lived; where he and his wife slept; whether they had ever lived or owned property in Del Rio; what organizations he belonged to; and whether he'd ever been party to a lawsuit or convicted of a felony. "There are questions asked in this deposition that aren't even asked for your security clearance," said Maj. Smith, who grew up in Del Rio, attended high school there, and also did his pilot training at nearby Laughlin Air Force Base. "This really infuriates me," he said. "I'm serving my country, putting my life on the line, protecting the right to vote. If they throw my vote out . . . well, that's not good." In the Nov. 5 election, Mr. Jernigan defeated the interim Democratic sheriff by 257 votes; Mr. Kachel defeated the Democratic opponent for commissioner by 113 votes. In their legal brief, TRLA attorneys contended, "The addition of the approximately 800 virtually all Anglo or white, mostly nonregistered and nonresident voters overwhelmed and diluted the votes of the plaintiff and the other Hispanic voters." Texas Secretary of State Antonio O. Garza Jr. has intervened in the case. "To place additional burdens on our members of the armed services, the men who protect and defend our nation, is both offensive and completely contrary to Texas election law," he wrote to Texas Attorney General Dan Morales. Mrs. Hutchison and her Republican colleague, Sen. Phil Gramm, wrote to the Legal Services Corp., demanding that it put a stop to the "blatantly political activity" by Texas Rural Legal Aid. Jack Perrine | ATHENA Programming, Inc | 818-798-6574 | ---------------- | 1175 No. Altadena Drive | fax 398-8620 | jack@minerva.com | Pasadena, CA 91107 US | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BludyRed@aol.com Subject: RE: Hypothetical Father/Son Conversation Date: 29 Jan 1997 00:32:40 -0500 Paul Andrew Mitchell writes: >>Whoever you are:<< My name is Dennis Baron . I do believe I signed my name to the post. Did you miss it? Due to your busy schedule, no doubt. >>What has this "BOY" posted that was exactly "appropriate for the list"? Who decides what is "appropriate for the list"? A dictator, maybe?<< The statement was not what the "BOY" posts, but what posts the boy has to read. Perhaps the LIST OWNER decides what is appropriate, and perhaps he has made it quite clear that personal advertising and solicitation of funds is NOT suitable for this list. If I should glue my own personal advertising poster over someone else's paid billboard, don't you think they would be kinda upset? >>>self aggrandizing requests to market his own brand of snake oil.<<< {dennis} >>I support your right to express yourself freely here, even if I disagree strongly with what you say.<< {paul} Paul, I strongly support your right to express yourself freely here. That's what this list is for. I DO NOT support your perceived "right" to advertise your books and shill for your Supreme Law School for FREE on this forum. Do what most other businessmen do, in a capitalist, free market society. Pay for it in the commercial arena. I would think it appropriate if you wish to advertise on an free Internet list such as this, to ask permission of the list owner, and as a courtesy, the list subscribers >>If you were getting the volume of inbound email which he gets, and if you were working to keep innocent people out of jail, and if you had been lied about and stiffed and threatened with bodily harm and murder, you might find yourself in the exact same moccasins for a while. But you're not.<< Doesn't this sound like the standard Liberal excuse for bad behavior? "It's not my fault. Somebody/something else made me do it. If only, If only If only.....then I wouldn't do the things I do." >>You have a very good point here. Maybe somebody will provide me with the extra time I need to comply with precision to your every itsy bitsy rule.<< This has nothing to do with rules. It has do with civility. ALL of us are extremely busy people, with jobs, families, hobbies, and problems. The fact that you are unable to schedule and allot your time is not OUR fault. Why should we pay the price for your inefficiency. I have noticed that you cut and pasted my post. Well done. See; it is possible. >>Try buying a law dictionary. They are not that expensive, and you might use it at some time in the future, maybe?<< This goes to the heart of the matter. Some of your posts are very enlightening and convey information clearly and concisely. Many others are mind-numbing to those of us who are not lawyers, and do not have a working knowledge of legal terminology. You claim to be pressed for time. Do you suppose that I have the time and energy available to translate all that legal jargon using the law dictionary you suggest? I would also need the entire CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) and numerous other reference volumes. Let me put this another way. You have stated that your phone was tapped and you were under surveillance. I am an electronics engineer by training. I worked for many years for the Department of Defense in the communications field. I am intimately familiar with many types of esoteric electronic communications equipment. Several of them were, at one time, used solely by the military and select law enforcement. I could post page after page of detailed descriptions of such phenomena as frequency skipping, spectrum mirroring, bandwidth compression and so on. I am able to give you reams of data on component selection, circuit analysis, equipment shielding wavelength propagation--ad infinitum. It would certainly make me look intelligent and educated. I could also feel superior to anyone who did not have my specific knowledge. On the other hand most reasonable folks would consider me an egotist, elitist and a blowhard, among other not so nice things, for posting that way. Do you really want to read all that drivel anyway? Would you understand it, even with an electronic dictionary? Wouldn't you rather have me say: "Hey Paul, there is a black van down the street with a couple of guys in it. They are pointing a real weird looking antenna at your house. Need any help?" Chad posted a notice on this list concerning solicitation and advertising. Just after Christmas, I posted a message requesting some restraint in the amount of redundant text being posted to list and said I would do my best to comply, to ease the burden on all of us. Not long ago, I got on your case personally, due to the Supreme Law School Spam. When you did it all again, it just grated on my better nature. I sincerely apologize to ALL list members if I have stepped over the line by addressing this issue. The believe the purpose of ROC is too important to be jeopardized by inappropriate, unwarranted, and presumptuous posts. I also believe society would be better served by condemning improper behavior instead of ignoring it or trying to explain it away. The above post is probably borderline acceptable for this list. As far as I am concerned, this specific issue is closed, unless others feel it is appropriate to continue this thread. Also, there is always private e-mail. Regards, Dennis Baron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Mitchell Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... Date: 28 Jan 1997 22:23:10 -0800 At 01:40 PM 1/28/97 -0800, you wrote: >Cap Schwartz wrote: >> >> Yeah, if you happen to have Eudora, it has "filters" >> built in. >> =C >> > >I'd heard a lot about Eudora, but didn't know what it offered that I >could use. A built in PAM filter is persuasive. Thanks One correction; you have to buy the Eudora _PRO_ version. The freeware one doesn't have filters. (oh, darn.) Want more detail? Ask me, or check http://www.qualcomm.com Ken Mitchell Citrus Heights, CA kmitchel@gvn.net 916-449-9152 (vm) 916-729-0966 (fax) --------------http://www.gvn.net/~creative/----------------------- "Gun control laws don't work. What is worse, they act perversely. While legitimate users of firearms encounter intense regulation, scrutiny and bureaucratic control, illicit markets easily adapt to whatever difficulties a free society throws in their way. Also, efforts to curtail the supply of firearms inflict collateral damage on freedom and privacy interests that have long been considered central to American public life." Daniel Polsby, "The False Promise of Gun Control" The Atlantic, March 1994 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BludyRed@aol.com Subject: SC Inclined to Rein in Congress Date: 29 Jan 1997 02:35:35 -0500 (EST) This is forwarded from NJ-RKBA FYI Regards, Dennis Baron ----- >From: Scott Wood[SMTP:wood@GCI-NET.COM] >Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 1997 11:31 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list AZRKBA >Subject: Sort of long, but pretty good > >I just got this off of Starnet. It is sort of long, but worth the time >to read it. > >SUPREME COURT SEEMS INCLINED TO REIN IN CONGRESS > > >Scripps Howard News Service > >Release date: 01-29-97 > >Must credit Congressional Quarterly > >By DAN CARNEY > >Congressional Quarterly > >WASHINGTON - In early December, acting Solicitor General Walter E. >Dellinger III argued before the Supreme >Court on the merits of the Brady Act, which requires a police background >check on people seeking to buy handguns. >Almost in passing, he mentioned that the vast majority of sheriffs and >police chiefs support the law. > >This struck a raw nerve with Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, who >curtly informed Dellinger that the Supreme >Court of the United States did not base its rulings on straw polls. > >If a person's constitutional rights are being violated by a popular >statute, Rehnquist reasoned, the court is not going to >say: "Gee, plenty of other people obey this law and here you are >complaining about it." > >Under normal circumstances, this kind of statement might be dismissed as >offhand. But in light of the court's recent >decisions - and the cases it is now hearing - the remark illustrates the >court's growing willingness to strike down >federal statutes on the grounds that Congress has overstepped its power. > >In 1995, in United States vs. Lopez, the court struck down a 1990 law >banning firearms near schools. In 1992, in >New York vs. United States, it threw out part of a 1985 nuclear waste >law holding states liable for waste generated >by commercial nuclear reactors. > >This term, it is considering the constitutionality of both the 1993 >Brady Act and the 1993 Religious Freedom >Restoration Act. The religious freedom act, which passed overwhelmingly, >says that state and local governments may >restrict religious liberties only if they must do so to meet a >"compelling interest" - a high legal standard to meet. > >The chief question in these cases is whether Congress has ventured into >areas where it has no right to be. In the Brady >case, the question is whether the federal government can require local >police to carry out federal statutes at their own >expense, and potentially in violation of a state law. > >All of these cases involve limits to federal power, and most are likely >to turn on interpretation of the 10th Amendment, >which restricts the federal government to those powers specifically >enumerated in the Constitution. But there are >broader challenges as well. > >"There are enough cases now where I think Congress ought to think of it >as a wake-up call," says A.E. Dick Howard, >a law professor at the University of Virginia. "Surely all this adds up >to changing the way Congress does its business. >Routine congressional drafting becomes freighted with constitutional >consideration." > >Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin G. Hatch, R-Utah, said he is >"very happy with these decisions" because >they indicate that "we have a Congress that operates under limited and >enumerated powers." > >When Congress first debated the Brady Act, most of the discussion >centered on the Second Amendment right to bear >arms, not the 10th Amendment. > >In hindsight, Brady law drafters could have skirted the question of >federal power by making the requirement for a >background check voluntary - while tying a significant amount of federal >funding to local cooperation. > >But the sponsors did not believe the mandate would run into problems. >The federal government currently requires >states to provide statistics on crime and traffic fatalities and other >data. They saw the background check as a similar >minor administrative duty that courts would have no problems with. > >However, judging from the Dec. 3 oral argument in the Brady cases, >Printz vs. United States and Mack vs. United >States, a ruling striking down the background check, or even the whole >law, is no longer inconceivable. Several >justices raised concerns about whether the federal government in Brady >was commandeering local officials to carry >out its own ends. > >Court observers are also watching the religious freedom case, City of >Boerne vs. Flores, with intense interest. The >case involves a church that was denied the right to expand because it is >located in a historic district. The church filed >suit, arguing that the local statute creating the district violates its >First Amendment right to free exercise of religion, as >well as provisions of the religious freedom act - which requires that >the city have a compelling interest in denying the >building permit. > >What has captivated constitutional scholars is the possibility that the >case could involve re-examining Congress' power >under the 14th Amendment. Arguably the most significant amendment since >the Bill of Rights, the 14th Amendment >conferred citizenship on all people born or naturalized in the United >States, regardless of race; required states to >provide equal protection under the law to all people; and barred states >from denying life, liberty, or property without >due process. > >It restructured the relationship between the federal government and the >states after the Civil War. For the first time it >imposed direct restrictions on states, empowered Congress to adopt >further restrictions, and - through a series of >court rulings known as the incorporation doctrine - applied much of the >rest of the Bill of Rights to the states. > >The final section of the amendment says: "Congress shall have the power >to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the >provisions of this article." > >Through the incorporation doctrine, the court has determined that >Congress' authority goes beyond the 14th >Amendment to allow it to pass laws protecting other rights as well. In >this case, it is religious freedom that is being >protected. > >But the city argues that the religious freedom law reflects an overly >broad interpretation of Congress' powers under >the 14th Amendment. > >The question is: How sweeping are those powers? Since the 1950s and >'60s, the Supreme Court has been fairly >generous in allowing Congress to decide just what those powers are. >Several civil rights laws affecting fair >employment and voting rights, passed by Congress and upheld in court, >arguably go well beyond any rights >specifically cited in the Constitution. > >This generosity may change. A court that has already shown an >inclination to rein in congressional power under the >10th Amendment may well take a fresh look at the broad powers ascribed >to Congress under the 14th. > >On Jan. 11, the court granted to a group of states that had filed >friend-of-the-court briefs opposing the religious >freedom law the right to participate in oral arguments. The court rarely >gives third parties other than the Justice >Department a chance to participate in oral arguments. > >This has civil rights organizations worried. The 1965 Voting Rights Act >and the fair employment title of the 1964 Civil >Rights Act, among other statutes, depend on fairly broad interpretation >of Congress' discretionary powers under the >14th Amendment. For this reason, groups such as the NAACP, the American >Civil Liberties Union and People for >the American Way have filed a friend-of-the court brief as well, >although they have no direct interest in the religious >liberty law. > >(Distributed by Scripps Howard News Service.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh, Pengar Enterprises Inc and Shire.Net) Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... Date: 29 Jan 1997 01:11:49 -0700 >At 01:40 PM 1/28/97 -0800, you (Ken Mitchell)wrote: >>Cap Schwartz wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, if you happen to have Eudora, it has "filters" >>> built in. >>> =C >>> >> >>I'd heard a lot about Eudora, but didn't know what it offered that I >>could use. A built in PAM filter is persuasive. Thanks > >One correction; you have to buy the Eudora _PRO_ version. The freeware one >doesn't have filters. (oh, darn.) Want more detail? Ask me, or check >http://www.qualcomm.com One correction to that correction. For those enlightened souls who use Macintosh the free Eudora Lite 3.0.x includes filters in it. Skip I believe is on Macintosh so this would apply to him. For the rest? Depends how enlightened you are :-) :-) :-) Chad sent from Eudora Pro 2.x on Mac Chad Leigh Pengar Enterprises, Inc and Shire.Net chad@pengar.com info@pengar.com info@shire.net Full service WWW services from just space to complete sites. Low cost virtual servers. DB integration. Tango. Email forwarding -- Permanent Email Addresses. POP3 and IMAP Email Accounts. mailto:info@shire.net for any of these. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Lew Glendenning Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... Date: 29 Jan 1997 04:19:22 -0900 The Chechen Republic of Ichkeria now has its own web site: http://www.chechnya.org/ I love their national anthem: Death or Freedom We were born at night when the she-wolf whelped. In the morning, to lions' deafening roar we were named. In eagles' nests our mothers nursed us, To tame wild bulls our fathers taught us. There are no gods save Allah Our mothers raised us to dedicate ourselves to our sacred land, And if they need us, we're ready fight the oppressive hand. We were born and grew up free as the mountain eagles, With dignity, and honor we always overcome hardship and obstacles. There are no gods save Allah. Granite rocks will sooner fuse like lead, Than we will lose our honor in life's struggles. Earth will sooner be swallowed up by the broiling sun, Than we emerge from a trial in life without our honour! There are no gods save Allah. Never will we submit and become slaves, Death or Freedom, for us there's only one way. Our sisters' songs will cure our wounds, Our beloveds' eyes will supply the strength of arms. There are no gods save Allah. If hunger weakens us, we'll gnaw on roots, And if thirst debilitates us, we'll drink dew, For we were born at night when she-wolf whelped. God, Nation and Vainakh Homeland We dedicate ourselves only to this, and no less. There is no god but Allah. ******************************************************************************* "That rifle on the wall of the laborer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there!" - George Orwell, 1940, in the democratic socialist weekly "Tribune," quoted in "Orwell: The Authorized Biography," by Michael Shelden "Yes, I am." - "Saint" Anne Pearston, organizer of the British "Snowdrop" Victim Disarmament petition, when asked if she was in favor of making the UK into a slave state on the Jim Hawkins BBC-radio show, 5/17/96, by Sean Gabb, editor of Free Life, the journal of the libertarian Alliance. ******************************************************************************* Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! Think Universally, Act Selfishly Assistant Editor: Freedom Network News, the newsletter of The International Society for Individual Liberty (ISIL), 1800 Market St., San Francisco, CA 94102 (415) 864-0952; FAX: (415) 864-7506; isil@isil.org, http://www.isil.org/ Liberty is the Best Policy - timstarr@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: Waco Film Date: 29 Jan 1997 09:19:51 -0800 >Subject: Review this review of "WACO: The Rules of Engagement" >Date: Wednesday, January 29, 1997 1:03AM > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > >WACO: The Rules of Engagement > >Executive Producer Dan Gifford introduces his new documentary, "Waco: >The Rules of Engagement", which premiered at the Sundance Film Festival, by >saying words to the effect that "This movie is about looking under rocks >and finding what we never wanted to know." The result is an extremely >disturbing film that should be required viewing for all Americans. "Waco" >is a damning indictment of the BATF, the FBI, and the Congressional >hearings which allegedly investigated the disaster in which four ATF agents >and 76 Branch Davidians were killed. > >Gifford and co-executive director Deborah Sommer-Gifford were inspired >to make the film when they were presented with aerial "Forward Looking >Infra-Red" (FLIR) footage taken by FBI surveillance. The FLIR film >provides answers to many of the previously unanswered questions about Waco. >According to Gifford, this film footage had been offered to the major news >networks and was rejected. > >The heart and mind of the film come from the never-before released >FLIR footage and home videos made by the Branch Davidians with a >camera given to them by the FBI. Accompanying them is extensive news >footage of the events at Waco, C-SPAN tapes of the Congressional hearings, >transcripts of conversations between the Davidians and negotiators and >interviews with various experts and key participants >in the disaster. > >The FLIR photography was taken by FBI planes flying over the Davidian >compound to provide surveillance. The film, which looks like ordinary >black and white film, actually measures heat, not light, and is thus >able to provide a great deal of information about weapons fire as well >as the inferno that destroyed the complex. Interpretation of the film >is provided by an independent company. The FLIR footage shows conclusively >that the FBI did fire on the Davidians despite their claims that "not a >single bullet was ever fired" and that the catastrophic fire was started by >the FBI firing grenades into the building after refilling it with the >deadly and flammable CS powder-methylene chloride mixture. It also provides >strong evidence that the FBI stationed personnel with machine guns outside >the only exit from the building, which if true, indicates that the FBI's >intent was to murder the Davidians, not to "rescue hostages". > >The FBI gave the Davidians a video camera and tapes to make videos of >themselves, presumably to help the negotiators understand them better. >These videos were never released because the FBI feared it would generate >too much sympathy for the Davidians and David Koresh. And in fact, the >video does refute the widely-publicized image of Koresh as a crazed, >charismatic and controlling leader, not unlike Charles Manson, and of his >followers as the "wackos from Waco". > >While Koresh was certainly not your "average American", he appears >rational, intelligent, and committed to teaching his religious beliefs. His >followers seem to be ordinary people on a spiritual quest, no different >from many I've encountered in my own spiritual seeking. >They did not appear to be brainwashed automatons, or homicidal maniacs. >Many were foreigners and ironically felt they would be safer studying >religion in the United States. While sexual practices outside the norm did >occur, they were consensual. I saw no evidence of child abuse whatever. >Clearly the FBI, aided by the media, demonized the Branch Davidians in an >attempt to dehumanize them. And dehumanization of the enemy is one of the >prerequisites for genocide. > >Given that the Congressional committee charged with investigating Waco >had access to all the material presented in this film, the >investigation can only be considered a farce and a travesty. With >rare exceptions, the hearings are shown to be nothing more than a >compilation of lies and perjury combined with a lot of self-serving >political grandstanding. What does stand out, and what gives the >film its name, is that neither the ATF nor the FBI ever had a detailed, >organized plan of attack, that there were never any formal rules of >engagement, and that no contingency plans for failure of the raids, >injuries, fire, or other foreseeable problems were ever made. > >While some have commented that the film appears biased against the >government, all the involved agencies were invited to participate, to >be interviewed, and to present their side of the story. They all refused. > And the producers are careful to state that they have no partisan agenda, >that their goal is to reopen debate on Waco. They >appear almost apologetic about the damaging evidence they have collected >and state they wish someone could or would disprove their findings. And >they emphatically do not wish to be associated with "right wing conspiracy >nuts". > >It is of course impossible to do justice to a nearly three hour film >in a review. Despite its length, I found it compelling and not at all >boring or dragging. Technically, the visuals are mostly dependent on the >quality of the archival film, although the sound levels could use some >work. The musical score was dramatic and quite effective. The film >includes views of the charred and mutilated bodies of some who died at >Waco, which I found appropriate, but may be too graphic for some. > >YOU need to see "Waco: The Rules of Engagement." So does every >American of every political persuasion. For the past four years, "Remember >Waco" has been a rallying cry for the "political right" >and gun owners. In response, they have been laughed at, dismissed, >and even accused of being anti-government terrorists. What this film shows >is human beings being methodically gassed and then burned. >Anyone and everyone who has ever vowed "Never again" needs to >view this film and renew that vow. > >This is absolutely not a film to celebrate. There is now evidence >that people within our government are guilty of genocide and crimes against >humanity and that they engaged in a huge cover-up. This >should sadden and sicken each of us, and it should also motivate us >to find ways to prevent such a tragedy from occurring ever again. >If we do not, we become accessories to these crimes. > >"Waco" has not yet been accepted for commercial release, although >negotiations are underway. If you want to see this film, if you feel >others should see this film, then you will have to act. Write to >Sundance and thank them for making this film available. (When you consider >who holds the power at Sundance, it IS rather remarkable >that "Waco" was shown.) Encourage them to support its general >release. If you have contacts with any film distribution companies, >ask them to distribute this film. Write letters to the editors of >newspapers and magazines. Tell everyone you know. If there is a >demand, if it appears profitable to distribute this documentary, Hollywood >will most likely cooperate. > >Remember that this is NOT about partisan politics, Right vs. Left, >gun rights, or other divisive issues. It is about our unalienable >Constitutional rights to religious freedom, freedom from unreasonable >search and seizure, and above all the freedom not to be murdered by >our own government. > >As the Talmud commands: "Thou shalt not stand idly by the blood of thy >brother." > >Further information is available at http://www.waco93.com > >c 1997, Sarah Thompson, M.D. >Permission to reprint granted as long as no changes are made and full >attribution is given. > >Sarah Thompson, M.D. >The Righter > >PO Box 271231 >Salt Lake City, UT 84127-1231 >(801) 966-0257 - voice >(801) 966-7278 - voice/fax >righter@therighter.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Liberty's Educational Advocacy Forum, Indiana-FIJA, Inc. > Url: http://www.iquest.net/~rjtavel/ > ************************* > Not a high-tech law firm brochure. > Dr. Tavel's Self Help Clinic and Sovereign Law Library > promotes "action that raises the cost of state violence > for its perpetrators (and) that lays the basis for > institutional change " -- Noam Chomsky > For Liberty in Our Lifetime, R.J. Tavel, J.D. > > - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Ferris Subject: Bill Clinton Sings "26 Files" (a.k.a. "Santa Catalina") Date: 29 Jan 1997 12:22:45 -0500 (EST) THIS IS A SATIRE With sincere apologies to "The Four Preps", who sang the original hit "26 Miles" back when music was music. Who knows, Wee Willie C. may next croon his own version of "The Morse Code of Love", another great oldie? Clinton will also surely be coming out soon with his own version of "Willie Willie", sung to the tune of "Louie Louie", the Kingsmens' classic hit. He's a singin' Prez, that he is ... 26 files I'd like to see, Come on, Louis Freeh, send 'em over to me, 26 files about my dropping pants, My pants, my pants, my pants. 26 files about Clinton and Jones, The whole sordid truth about my jumping her bones, 26 files about my sagging pants, My pants, my pants, my pants. 26 files for my "Carville Crew", Send 'em via Fedex, that will have to do, 26 files we'll shred as I will dance, Will dance, will dance, will dance. 26 files, hey, no copies were made, Originals all, yeah, no extras to trade, 26 files we'll burn as I will prance, Will prance, will prance, will prance. 26 files that I soon will see, Lots of dirt, amigos, on me, Willie J.C., 26 files about my chasing girls, sans pants, Sans pants, sans pants, sans pants. 26 files which I'll have to see, Livingstone and Marceca never got 'em to me, 26 files about which Hillary Rodham rants, She rants, she rants, she rants. THIS IS A SATIRE Christopher C. Ferris Litchfield NH ferriscc@mainstream.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken Holder Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... Date: 29 Jan 1997 09:54:56 -0800 At 10:23 PM 1/28/97 -0800, Kenneth Mitchell wrote: >At 01:40 PM 1/28/97 -0800, you wrote: >>Cap Schwartz wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, if you happen to have Eudora, it has "filters" >>> built in. >>> =C >>> >> >>I'd heard a lot about Eudora, but didn't know what it offered that I >>could use. A built in PAM filter is persuasive. Thanks > >One correction; you have to buy the Eudora _PRO_ version. The freeware one >doesn't have filters. (oh, darn.) Want more detail? Ask me, or check >http://www.qualcomm.com Brrrrrrrrrrrt! Wrong! Thank you for playing! Eudora Light 3.0 has filters. The e-mail program that comes with Netscape 4 also has filtering ability, although version 3 doesn't seem to. (Netscape 4 also has a few bugs still, so you might want to hold off on that for a bit longer.) Pegasus mail (freeware) also has filters, as do lots of other mail programs. -- Ken L. Holder kholder@liberty.com Webmaster of L. Neil Smith's award-winning _The Libertarian Enterprise_ http://www.liberty.com/home/kholder/libemain.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Material for February 20, 1997 study session on state and local gun regulation efforts in San Jose, CA (fwd) Date: 29 Jan 1997 16:48:02 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Posted to texas-gun-owners by 6mysmesa@1eagle1.com Dear Mayor Hammer, Regarding your proposed February 20, 1997 meeting to discuss ways to prevent violence among our youth. I'm a well-known author on firearms-related criminology. My books include Stopping Power: Why 70 Million Americans Own Guns, and Self Control Not Gun Control. My articles on this subject have appeared in the Los Angeles Times, National Review, and one of my articles, "Medical Malpractice," originally published in National Review, was selected to appear in the book Taking Sides: Clashing Views on Controversial Issues in Health and Society, Second, Edition, Edited by Eileen K. Daniel, (Dushkin Publishing Group/Brown & Benchmark Publishers, 1996), as rebuttal to "Guns in the Household" by Jerome P. Kassirer, MD, editor of the New England Journal of Medicine. Any discussion of the use of privately owned firearms in society must take into account benefits as well as costs. I am attaching to this email a link to the World Wide Web Gun Defense Clock, a web page which calculates the number of times each year that a privately held gun is used to prevent a violent crime. The clock calculates a gun defense every 13 seconds, which comes to a total of 2.45 million gun defenses in the course of a year. The web page details the source of this calculation, along with further information comparing these positive outcomes with criminal uses of guns, accidental gun-related fatalities, and suicides in which a gun is used as the method. In particular, you should note the section of the page referenced as "Kids and Guns," which includes excerpts from a study by the U.S. Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, NCJ-143454, "Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse," August 1995, which found, "The socialization into gun ownership is also vastly different for legal and illegal gunowners. Those who own legal guns have fathers who own guns for sport and hunting. On the other hand, those who own illegal guns have friends who own illegal guns and are far more likely to be gang members. For legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street.'" "Boys who own legal firearms have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns." Mayor Hammer, any legislation has to be based on a real-world picture rather than popular myth and junk science. I strongly suggest that if you do not rely on the best available scientific evidence on the question of the positive role firearms play in controlling crime and violence in our society, you will do nothing but throw oil, rather than water, on the problem. These are serious issues with dire social consequences, and there is no room for political demagoguery. Any political leader who fails to learn these facts will find himself or herself as making public policy not because it is in the best interests of the people, but merely because there is political capital to be made from it. That sort of incompetence from elected officials is surely effective argument an opponent can use in the next election to appeal to any voters who cast their votes based on reasonable approaches to public problems rather than narrow extremist ideology. Sincerely, J. Neil Schulman -- J. Neil Schulman / Pulpless.Com Voice & Fax: (310) 839-7653 Internet: jneil@pulpless.com Personal Web Page: http://www.pulpless.com/jneil/ Browse sample chapters of new books by bestselling authors, pay online with a credit card or ecash, then download books in HTML or Adobe Acrobat format from the web at http://www.pulpless.com/ Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="gunclock.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="gunclock.html" Content-Base: "http://www.netstorage.com/pulpless/gun clock.html"

Every 13 seconds
an American gun owner uses a firearm
in defense against a criminal.

Criminal Attacks Stopped By Guns This Year:

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Among 15.7% of gun defenders interviewed nationwide during The National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the defender believed that someone "almost certainly" would have died had the gun not been used for protection -- a life saved by a privately held gun about once every 1.3 minutes. (In another 14.2% cases, the defender believed someone "probably" would have died if the gun hadn't been used in defense.)

In 83.5% of these successful gun defenses, the attacker either threatened or used force first -- disproving the myth that having a gun available for defense wouldn't make any difference.

In 91.7% of these incidents the defensive use of a gun did not wound or kill the criminal attacker (and the gun defense wouldn't be called "newsworthy" by newspaper or TV news editors). In 64.2% of these gun-defense cases, the police learned of the defense, which means that the media could also find out and report on them if they chose to.

In 73.4% of these gun-defense incidents, the attacker was a stranger to the intended victim. (Defenses against a family member or intimate were rare -- well under 10%.) This disproves the myth that a gun kept for defense will most likely be used against a family member or someone you love.

In over half of these gun defense incidents, the defender was facing two or more attackers -- and three or more attackers in over a quarter of these cases. (No means of defense other than a firearm -- martial arts, pepper spray, or stun guns -- gives a potential victim a decent chance of getting away uninjured when facing multiple attackers.)

In 79.7% of these gun defenses, the defender used a concealable handgun. A quarter of the gun defenses occured in places away from the defender's home.

Source: "Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalance and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun," by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz, in The Journal of Criminal Law & Criminology, Northwestern University School of Law, Volume 86, Number 1, Fall, 1995

Marvin Wolfgang, Director of the Sellin Center for Studies in Criminology and Criminal Law at the University of Pennsylvania, considered by many to be the foremost criminologist in the country, wrote in that same issue, "I am as strong a gun-control advocate as can be found among the criminologists in this country. If I were Mustapha Mond of Brave New World, I would eliminate all guns from the civilian population and maybe even from the police ... What troubles me is the article by Gary Kleck and Marc Gertz. The reason I am troubled is that they have provided an almost clearcut case of methodologically sound research in support of something I have theoretically opposed for years, namely, the use of a gun in defense against a criminal perpetrator. ...I have to admit my admiration for the care and caution expressed in this article and this research. Can it be true that about two million instances occur each year in which a gun was used as a defensive measure against crime? It is hard to believe. Yet, it is hard to challenge the data collected. We do not have contrary evidence. The National Crime Victim Survey does not directly contravene this latest survey, nor do the Mauser and Hart Studies. ... the methodological soundness of the current Kleck and Gertz study is clear. I cannot further debate it. ... The Kleck and Gertz study impresses me for the caution the authors exercise and the elaborate nuances they examine methodologically. I do not like their conclusions that having a gun can be useful, but I cannot fault their methodology. They have tried earnestly to meet all objections in advance and have done exceedingly well."

So this data has been peer-reviewed by a top criminologist in this country who was prejudiced in advance against its results, and even he found the scientific evidence overwhelmingly convincing.

By Comparison:

A fatal accident involving a firearm occurs in the United States only about once every 6 hours. For victims age 14 or under, it's fewer than one a day -- but still enough for the news media to have a case to tell you about in every day's edition.

Source: National Safety Council

A criminal homicide involving a firearm occurs in the United States about once every half hour -- but two-thirds of the fatalities are not completely innocent victims but themselves have criminal records.

Source: FBI Uniform Crime Reports and Murder Analysis by the Chicago Police Department

Kids and guns? Here's what a 1995 federal study investigating juvenile crime found after looking at 20,000 randomly selected households:

Relationship between type of gun owned and percent committing street, drug and gun crimes. "The socialization into gun ownership is also vastly different for legal and illegal gunowners. Those who own legal guns have fathers who own guns for sport and hunting. On the other hand, those who own illegal guns have friends who own illegal guns and are far more likely to be gang members. For legal gunowners, socialization appears to take place in the family; for illegal gunowners, it appears to take place 'on the street.'"

"Boys who own legal firearms have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns."

Source: U.S. Department of Justice, National Institute of Justice, Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, NCJ-143454, "Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse," August 1995.

Making it legally possible for civilians to carry concealed weapons does not make society more violent or result in shootouts at traffic accidents. The rate of criminal misuse of firearms by the hundreds of thousands of persons licensed to carry concealed firearms in Florida is so low as to be statistically zero. In fact, homicide, assault, rape, and robbery are dramatically lower in areas of the United States where the public is allowed easy access to carrying concealed firearms in public.

Sources: Florida Department of State, Concealed Weapons/ Firearms License Statistical Report and "Crime, Deterrence, and Right-to-Carry Concealed Handguns," by John R. Lott, Olin Fellow in Law and Economics at the University of Chicago Law School and David B. Mustard, graduate student, Department of Economics, Journal of Legal Studies, January 1997.

Making guns less available does not reduce suicide but merely causes the person seeking death to use another means. While gun-related suicides were reduced by Canada's handgun ban of 1976, the overall suicide rate did not go down at all: the gun-related suicides were replaced 100% by an increase in other types of suicide -- mostly jumping off bridges.

Source: Rich, Young, Fowler, Wagner, and Black, The American Journal of Psychiatry March, 1990

Copyright © 1996 by J. Neil Schulman. All rights reserved.
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The best part of your day is over when your alarm goes off. You want to see how long your car will last instead of how fast it will go. You turn out the light for economic reasons rather than romantic ones. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: RE: ... from Skip L... Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:44:10 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, John Curtis wrote: > > >>Don't you guys have e-mail filters? I put PAM in my killfile months > >>ago. > > > >Those of us who do e-mail straight out of unix don't have them. We have > >to filter him out message by message. > > > >I've been doing it, but it got old long ago. > > I read email on a Unix system using emacs (a technical editor). I > could hack some eLisp code to do a filter, I suppose. I just prefer > to hit that old 'k' key myself. > > I find Mr. Mitchell's postings entertaining and somewhat informative. > They are a window into some of the legalistic thinking of some sectors I agree. And I think an important point here is "burden". Who should the burden of this poor civility fall on? Should each of the (potentially) hundreds of us who take the time to subscribe to the list and follow it's charter be the ones to correct this (by running filters)? Or should the one or two sources of ill will be politely asked and expected to reform? Sure, there are some "really bitchin" software packages out there, and elisp/eudora/perl/c/geekytoyofchoice are all fun to talk about but what is (in the words of the oatmeal guy) "the right thing to do"? If we stop expecting people to be civil, they'll efficiently and rapidly meet our expectations. Boyd (that's MISTER big questions to you) Kneeland ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: roc Date: 29 Jan 1997 18:56:47 PST still no ROC posts, still no missing from the 20th on posts. :-( -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh, Pengar Enterprises Inc and Shire.Net) Subject: Re: roc Date: 29 Jan 1997 21:08:25 -0700 >still no ROC posts, still no missing from the 20th on posts. :-( > The ISP is looking at why you are not getting posts. You have some sort of UUCP connection? 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POP3 and IMAP Email Accounts. mailto:info@shire.net for any of these. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: (fwd)Assembly OKs gun law Date: 30 Jan 1997 07:18:45 -0500 A heads-up for those in Wisconsin. >X-Sender: eplurib@megalinx.net (Unverified) >Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:03:26 -0500 >To: eplurib@megalinx.net >From: eplurib@megalinx.net (E Pluribus Unum) >Subject: Assembly OKs gun law > >Forwarded email, from: fosterc@UWSTOUT.EDU >======= > >Eau Claire Leader-Telegram Volume 27 Number 232 Page 1A, Jan. 29 1997 > >Opinion letters can be faxed to 715-833-9201 >or emailed to leadertele@aol.com >Include name, address, daytime phone number. > >======= >Assembly OKs gun law, but... >Zien expects Senate to delay rights proposal. > >By Tawny Colaizy >Leader Telegram Staff >and The Associated Press > >State Sen. Dave Zien said today he doesn't believe >the Senate will pass a state constitutional amendment >guaranteeing the right to bear arms fast enough for >the proposal to be placed on the April ballot. > >A proposed constitutional amendment to guarantee the >right to keep and bear arms in Wisconsin won easy >Assembly passage Monday after opponents blasted it as >unnecessary. > >The proposal, which both the Assembly and Senate >approved in the last legislative session, was approved >84-13 by the Assembly Monday. If passed soon in the >current Senate session, it could go before voters for >final approval in a referendum as soon as April 1. >Passage by both houses in two consecutive sessions is >required to get a state constitutional amendment >referendum to the voters. > >The amendment would read: "The people have the right >to keep and bear arms for security, defense, hunting, >recreation or any other lawful purpose." > >Zien, R-Eau Claire, said he's "absolutely impressed" >by the Assembly's action. > >"But I'm not going to be impressed by the State Senate," >he predicted. > >The Senate, which is controlled by Democrats, must >pass the amendment by Feb. 15 for it to go to voters on >the April ballot. > >Zien, co-sponsor of the proposal, said he fears >"political gamesmanship" will foil attempts to pass the >proposal by the deadline. > >"I'm hoping it doesn't take longer, but I'm predicting >it won't be done," he said. "People are going to want to >play politics with it." > >If the Senate passed the bill after the deadline, a >referendum would be delayed at least until the April 1998 >ballot, something Zien said is unnecessary. > >"There's no need to debate it any further. We need to >bring it to a vote and let the people decide," he said. > >The Assembly had spirited debate Tuesday before moving >the amendment to the Senate. > >Critics noted the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment >already guarantees that right. > >They contended the amendment, backed by the Wisconsin >Pro-Gun Movement, would prevent the state and communities >from passing gun control laws and ordinances to protect >public safety. > > > >=========================================================== >E Pluribus Unum - http://home.megalinx.net/~eplurib/home.html > >P.O. Box 477; Stockport, OH 43787 >Voice (614) 836-7650 Fax (614) 836-7651 >"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge" Hosea 4:6 > > > "You exceed your rights when you urge that laws be made in the shape of your conscience to block the pleasures permitted by mine. When you people prevail, you commit a crime against freedom, and that is the greatest immorality I know." -Vance Bourjaily, Country Matters (no date avail). Thanks to:Mark Johnson (onethumb@why.net) "A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins." Benjamin Franklin "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." --Thomas Jefferson (Thanks to Pat Fosness) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: C-NEWS: Posting (fwd) Date: 30 Jan 1997 07:05:15 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- The following is from a magazine article quoting Rev. William J.H. Boetcker titled the "Ten Cannots" originally published in 1916: - You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. - You cannot help small men by tearing down big men. - You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. - You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. - You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich man. - You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income. - You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. - You cannot establish security on borrowed money. - You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence. - You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. It's interesting how truth never seems to grow old. [Editor's Note: FYI, These quotes are often *mistakenly* attributed to Abraham Lincoln. --Mark, your friendly C-News Editor] ------- To subscribe to c-news, send the message SUBSCRIBE C-NEWS, or the message UNSUBSCRIBE C-NEWS to unsubscribe, to majordomo@world.std.com. Contact owner-c-news@world.std.com if you have questions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: C-NEWS: Interesting Items 1/27 (fwd) Date: 30 Jan 1997 07:10:08 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Interesting Items 1/27 - Howdy all, a few Interesting Items for your information. Enjoy - 1. Loser Pays. With the imposition of the $300,000 fine against Newt for fighting the ethics charge that Bonior finally stuck on him, the House Ethics Committee has set a new standard for payback on political hits. This new standard is "Loser Pays." Now that the new standard has been set to pay the Committee for time spent investigating bogus charges by anyone found in violation of anything at all, I wonder how quickly enterprising Republicans will turn the tables on the democrats and charge them for time spent investigating bogus charges ? If one charge against Newt is worth $300,000, I wonder how much money Bonior will be assessed for 73 bogus charges ? At $300,000 per, that number is over $22 million - money that he should not be able to pay out of his campaign funds. Then we can go to Mr Dick (Gephardt) paying the Committee back for the two times he flipped property to evade capital gains taxes - over $600,000. One can only sit back and marvel at the possibilities of Rep McDermott paying for the actual investigation of his possibly felony. If the democrats want to play this game - by all means, lets have at it. I called DeLay's office Friday and suggested they go for it. 2. Union Dues. One of the successful state level experiments has been the requirement by the state of Washington that no union dues be used in political or PAC activities without the express, signed permission of the member. This new rule cut NEA funding in Washington by 5/6 of the previous election. The state NEA is now in trouble for skirting the new law last election. Congress can do the same thing for all federal union employees, thus gutting the public employee union impact in future elections. They can also pass legislation implementing the Beck decision. If union members are shown that they can control their dues, the Republicans have a very good chance of reestablishing the old Reagan coalition of blue collar democrat voters. 3. Darkest Day. Limbaugh played the most amazing quote from Bubba last Friday. When asked about Rodman kicking a cameraman on the sidelines of a Bulls basketball game, Bubba responded with a moaning groaning whine about nobody not wanting to be judged on what they did on the darkest part of the darkest day of their lives. Limbaugh's callers responded appropriately. First of all, people of character have that character show up precisely at the blackest moment of their lives. Second of all, if this is true, why are people in prison ? Why don't we empty them all right now, as Bubba just gave them the ultimate excuse. Last but not least, Rodman didn't do this at the blackest moment of his life. He was chasing a rebound out of bounds during a Bulls game - one of 84 regular season games this year and did it out of pure cussedness. 4. Hope Scholarship. One of Bubba's great give away programs during the last election was a tax credit / scholarship loan program for students in the first two years of college that made a "B" average or better. House Ways and Means Chairman Bill Archer asked Treasury officials in a letter last week who was going to check up on student grades ? Was the IRS now going to get report cards along with parents ? How was Treasury gong to enforce this program ? Treasury officials said they would respond in due course. Limbaugh, Fri. 5. Never, EVER Trust a Democrat. Three of four new democrat senators who ran in full support of the Balanced Budget Amendment, now are expressing reservations with the entire issue. Mary Landreau (LA), Cleland (GA) and Johnson (ukn) are all on record this week expressing "concern." To his credit, Bob Torricelli (NJ) still says he supports it. These luminaries of the democrat party join DiFi (Diane Feinstein) as simply the latest in liberal bait and switch artists. Limbaugh, Fri. 6. 911 Tracking. NJ officials announced the deployment and operation of a 911 tracking system designed to locate cellular callers to 911. If the state can do this in the name of meeting an emergency and in the name of public safety, I wonder how long it will be confined to 911 uses ? 7. Martin Update. I received an e-mail this week that said he thought that Mr Martin, the well known Florida NEA cellular telephone scanner operator, was an amateur radio guy. If anyone out there has any additional information, please let me know. If true, this explains his ability to modify the scanner. It also tells you that he was fully conversant with FCC rules and regulations, as that sort of knowledge is necessary in order to get licensed. 8. Friedan. Betty Friedan, the penultimate feminist, has placed a wooden stake through the heart of all future sexual harassment charges. As the leader of the movement that brought us to the current state of legal arrangements between men and disgruntled women, she wrote last Wednesday that Bubba's actions with Paula Jones was not sexual harassment. The head of the entire organization using a pair of officers to entice a state employee into a room where he exposed himself and then reminds her that he knows the guy she works for, if given a free ride by ALL the feminists. She went on to say it was a boorish act, one that Hillary ought to address, and then went on to praise Bubba's health care plans. Limbaugh, Thurs. 9. Internet. Fresh from his amazing success at guiding Hilly's Health Care Plan into oblivion, former WH aide Ira Magaziner has been given the job of making sure that commerce on the Internet was going to be properly taxed. Our liberal friends have decided that they are not able to tap into what goes on here on the net and want to control it via taxation. Limbaugh, Thurs. 10. Racial Targets. The White House released documents last week that detailed plans by aides to court ethnic and disabled groups by offering unprecedented access to the White House, Bubba and algore. Targeted groups included blacks, Latinos, disabled, pacific Asian and Jewish. This strategy apparently worked, as most of these folks ended up voting for Bubba. The program was headed up by Harold Ickes. Up to the release of the documents, the WH denied that Bubba had any knowledge any of this was going on - it was simply a coincidence. Limbaugh, Fri. 11. Newt Bait and Switch. Novak had a column last week that detailed the bait and switch operation that the democrat members of the House Ethics Committee pulled on Newt. After agreeing to two minor charges on Dec 21, Newt was whacked by a very intense group of charges and findings by Kohl, the counsel. Democrat members of the committee went to the floor of the House with the list of new charges rather than the list of agreed upon charges. If anyone broke House Rules or violated the spirit and intent of the ethics process, it was these bait and switch artists that sandbagged the Republican members of the committee. Limbaugh, Thurs. 12. Actual Abortion Numbers ? I wrote last week that the number of abortions this last year had fallen to under 1 million and that the feminists were starting to go nuts about it. Limbaugh reported last Thurs that the number was 1.4 million per year. Either way, it appears to be falling, though there is some slop. An update would be most appreciated. More later - - AG Note: Interesting Items can be found at Julie Kellehers K-Group home page - http://world.std.com/~julikell/ ------- To subscribe to c-news, send the message SUBSCRIBE C-NEWS, or the message UNSUBSCRIBE C-NEWS to unsubscribe, to majordomo@world.std.com. Contact owner-c-news@world.std.com if you have questions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larry BAll" Subject: Know Your Enemy Date: 30 Jan 1997 07:51:28 -0600 Let me suggest an interesting activity for a long winter's night. Pull up you Web Browser and select an appropriate search engine such as Yahoo or Alta-Vista. (I used Alta-Vista) Type in the name "Chip Berlet" quotes and all. There are many references to him and complete texts of the things that he has written. He also edits. One of the newsletters associated with him "ATIVA?" has an article by Mumia Al Jamal. You will remember that his impending execution was deplored by such Waco-ites as Carol? Moore and Linda Thompson. Mumia is a murderer at least one time. He killed a cop. Mumia is also not his original name, it is an alias. His real name is H. Rap Brown. You know, of Black Power fame. Berlet is anti-gun, anti-militia, anti-white male, pro black revolutionaries, Pro queer, pro abortion, pro big government, pro socialist. In short he is a bleeding heart liberal who would bankrupt America to support chaos. I was trying to find a political acitivist book that he and several other liberals put together and deposited as a file in a computer location called "The Well." Anyway I typed in Berlet's name and was surprised to see the amount of material on him. You might be interested in reading some of this stuff. To be knowledgeable is to be armed. Larry Ball lball@unlinfo.unl.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Apartheid in America Date: 30 Jan 1997 08:44:25 -0800 >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:42:24 -0800 >To: "Ed" >From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >Subject: Apartheid in America >Bcc: Supreme Law School > >At 05:52 AM 1/30/97 -0600, you wrote: >>We're a nation of men, not of laws, >>as anyone over ten years old can clearly testify. >>Not being a lawyer and damn proud of it, >>didn't the Supreme Court >>declare slavery legal at one time? > > >Dear Ed, > >Yes, the Supreme Court was asked >to declare whether or not our >nation had embraced apartheid, >and Chief Justice Taney, in the Dred Scott >case (1856), confirmed that we were a >nation which had embraced apartheid, >as evidenced by all the laws which >enforced it. He also said that, >if we found that result offensive, >there was a mechanism built into the >Constitution for changing it, but >that the Supreme Court was NOT authorized >to change it. You MUST read the Dred Scott >decision, to understand what I mean here. >It is rough going in many places, but >you will put yourself way above the crowd >for having read the entire decision. > >Go for it! You will be the better for it, >I promise you!! > >/s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com Web site for the Supreme Law Firm is URL: http://www.supremelaw.com Ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Special Request Date: 30 Jan 1997 09:26:12 -0800 Dear America, Please do all of Us a big favor, and call the Editor of the Daily Wildcat at the University of Arizona in Tucson, requesting them to publish the article by John E. Trumane entitled "The Lawless Rehnquist." Their telephone number is (520) 621-3551. They need to publish it while C.J. Rehnquist is still lecturing there. If that number is busy, or if the VM message box is full, then try any of the following: (520) 621-7583 classified ads (520) 621-1686 display advertising (520) 621-7582 subscriptions Please be very polite; it helps the cause! Many thanks for the favor!! /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com Web site for the Supreme Law Firm is URL: http://www.supremelaw.com Ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Conflict of Interest? Date: 30 Jan 1997 10:01:39 -0800 Dear Friends, Almost everyone who has reached the end of the essay "The Lawless Rehnquist" has asked me, "Isn't it a conflict of interest for judges to invest in prisons?" In answer to this poignant question, please tell them my answer, "You BET it is!" And tell them I said so, because THAT is the truth! /s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com Web site for the Supreme Law Firm is URL: http://www.supremelaw.com Ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: Re: Special Request Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:00:34 -0800 >Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:03:02 -0500 >To: Paul Andrew Mitchell >Subject: Re: Special Request > >http://w3.arizona.edu/~wildcat/ > >ADD THIS URL TO YOUR REQUEST! [anonymous] > > >At 10:09 AM 1/30/97 -0800, you wrote: >>>Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:35:44 -0800 >>>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >>>Subject: Special Request >>>Bcc: Supreme Law School >>> >>>>Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:26:12 -0800 >>>>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >>>>Subject: Special Request >>>> >>>>Dear America, >>>> >>>>Please do all of Us a big favor, and >>>>call the Editor of the Daily Wildcat >>>>at the University of Arizona in Tucson, >>>>requesting them to publish the article >>>>by John E. Trumane entitled "The Lawless >>>>Rehnquist." Their telephone number >>>>is (520) 621-3551. They need to publish it >>>>while C.J. Rehnquist is still lecturing >>>>there. If that number is busy, or if >>>>the VM message box is full, then try >>>>any of the following: >>>> >>>>(520) 621-7583 classified ads >>>>(520) 621-1686 display advertising >>>>(520) 621-7582 subscriptions >>>> >>>>Please be very polite; it helps the cause! >>>> >>>>Many thanks for the favor!! >>>> >>>>/s/ Paul Mitchell ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com Web site for the Supreme Law Firm is URL: http://www.supremelaw.com Ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: conflicts of interest? Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:55:48 -0800 From the USDC in downtown Los Angeles, California state, verbatim to wit: "This Court owns an interest in American International Group, Inc., which includes the following companies: Foreign General, International Lease, Finance, National Union, United Guarantee, and other companies under the designation 'AIG' in their names. Counsel are required to immediately advise the Court if the named insurance group is involved as an insurer in the litigation." [sic] /s/ William D. Keller ______________________________ Judge William D. Keller United States District Court Central District of California [downtown Los Angeles, California state] in U.S.A. [sic] v. Broderick et al., Case No. CV-96-2141-WDK, ORDER RE: MOTION PRACTICE Dated: 3-27-96 Filed: MAR 27 1996 ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com Web site for the Supreme Law Firm is URL: http://www.supremelaw.com Ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "E. J. Totty" Subject: Re: ... from Skip L... Date: 30 Jan 1997 06:49:51 -0800 At 21:23 -0600 1/27/97, Howlin' Blue wrote: >Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: >> >> Then make it a private list, >> or stop pretending that you >> are not abridging a man's >> freedom of speech. >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell > >You seem to be missing the point. No one suggests you don't have the >right to take a leak. > >But that don't give you the right to piss on everyone's shoes. Which, >metaphorically, is what do with your spam posts. Paul, Take this from someone who respects you quite a bit: There are limits that one should not go beyond. The people on this list are a pretty level headed lot, most don't complain about _just anything_. WE are all here to collect information, that will help us to deal with current politics as best we can. Most of the complaints I have seen are valid. When the 'noise level' exceeds the information level, most people just turn off and go elsewhere. If the object of your lengthy and - yes, at time irrelevant posts is to provoke others into leaving, you're succeeding - admirably. Please do consider the rest of us here, and post only the most relevant items - briefly, and perhaps with the message trailer that says in effect - want more? Contact me. Elsewise, you'll make no new friends here, and quite possibly loose some. Most respectfully, Ed Ed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Ferris Subject: Passive Tense Wee Willie Clinton Speaks Out Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:45:04 -0500 (EST) THIS IS A SATIRE Mistakes were made, And babes were screwed, And bimbos were chased, While some were nude. Mistakes were made, And lies were told, And a woman was trashed, By sly Carville so cold. Mistakes were made, There was nothing to it, When involved screwin' chicks, Heck, folks, I never knew it. Mistakes were made, At the ol' DNC, While grabbing big dinero, For me, Willie J.C. Mistakes were made, But, for goodness sake, um, When fed laws were broken, Hey, I didn't break 'em. I'm "Victim Prez", folks, Oh, come on, you all, I always find suckers, To take that hard fall. Mistakes were made, But not ever by me, Gotta run now, my friends, To an Indonesian Tea! THIS IS A SATIRE Christopher C. Ferris Litchfield NH ferriscc@mainstream.net (Voice mail message allegedly left for Cindy Crawford: "Hi, this is Willie, night manager of Motel Sex at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and I'll leave the light on for you, but I'll have to bill you for the electricity.") ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: Flame form letter Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:36:01 -0600 (CST) About your recent refusal to say gosh I am sorry I guess I was going a little over board with some of my post and because I am a good neighbor I will try and tone down some of my unwanted post on the private ROC "restore our constitution" e-mail list. Dear: [ ] Clueless Newbie [ ] Loser [ ] Republican [ ] AOLer/Euronetter/PIer [ ] Jackass [ ] Democrat [ ] Me too er [ ] Pervert [ ] Geek [ ] Spammer [ ] Nerd [ ] Elvis [ ] Fed [ ] Freak [ ] FLAMENET [ ] Smeghead [ ] Yanni fan [ ] God [ ] Neo-Nazi [ ] Cat hater [ ] Nobody [X ] Unbearably self-righteous person [ ] hysterical HCI grass eater hoplophobe [ ] Other:__________________ You Are Being Flamed Because: [ ] You can't hold a tune [ ] You posted an off-topic binary in a non-binaries group [ ] You can't spell worth a flying shti [X] You quoted an ENTIRE post in your reply [ ] You continued a "troll" [ ] You started an off-topic thread [ ] You posted a "USA/Europe/Canada Sucks!" message [ ] You said "me too" to something [ ] You don't know which group to post in [ ] You suck [ ] You don't know Thomas Jefferson from Joe Blow [ ] You brag about things that never happened [X] Your sig/alias/server sucks [ ] You posted a (phone-sex) ad [X] You posted something totally uninteresting [ ] You crossposted unnecessarily [ ] You posted a message all in caps [ ] You posted racism/anti-homosexual/ anti-gun nonsense [ ] I don't like your tone of voice [X] I'm in a bitchy mood today [ ] I think you might be a fed [ ] You appear to have no gonads [ ] I know you are a fed [ ] *MY barrel* is longer than yours [X] YOU REFUSED POLITE REQUEST TO COOL IT! To Repent, You Must: [ ] Give up your Internet access forever [ ] Tell a policeman "I'm going to kill the President!" [ ] Lick a cow's butt [ ] Massage your dad's buttocks [ ] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor [ ] Actually post something relevant [ ] Read the damned FAQ [ ] Repeat after me 1000 times People, not guns, kill people [ ] Play Mannenheim Steamroller on your gonads with a hammer [ ] Be Bill Clinton's love slave [ ] Spontaneously combust [ ] Jump in some industrial equipment [ ] Read Madison and Jefferson then send $ to NRA [X] Apologize to everybody in this newsgroup [X] Take your head out of your ass In Closing, I'd Like to Say: [ ] You give evolution a bad rap [X] Get a life [ ] Never post again [ ] I know where you live [ ] I've known lettuce heads smarter than you [ ] If brains were dynamite you couldn't blow your nose [ ] Take your crap somewhere else [ ] May you be audited incessantly [ ] Do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment [ ] See how far your tongue will fit into the electric outlet [ ] Go share a needle [ ] Eat lead [ ] All of the above, and then some [X] EVEN PATRIOTS CAN BE AS RUDE AS GOVERNMENT AGENTS! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SLFCX@cc.usu.edu Subject: Re: Special Request Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:55:54 -0600 (MDT) Who is Rhenquist and what has he done? If I am to make that phone call, I want to know. Also, what is the article about? Vincent Jefferies slfcx@cc.usu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: Flame form letter Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:10:44 -0800 (PST) Crispy, but with a delicately oaky undertouch. I like it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Ferris Subject: A Gorilla Who Didn't Miss! Date: 30 Jan 1997 14:33:13 -0500 (EST) Proving that gun owners may indeed be descendants of apes, a gorilla at Boston's Franklin Park Zoo was recently upset at the bombastic oratory of Boston's freedom-and-gun-hating Mayor Tommy "Mumbles" Menino, so upset, in fact, that he (the gorilla) picked up a handful of fresh gorilla dung and showered His Honor and surrounding freedom-hating suck-ups with a barrage of the foul smelling stuff. Yes, His Honor and his clipboard-holding yuppies were reportedly layered top to bottom with "the right stuff", courtesy of a pro-right to toss mierda gorilla who may also resent the loss of his own freedom. Can we work to get this gorilla an honorary NRA membership? Or at least a free NRA sweatshirt (size 4XL) and a free NRA baseball cap? Still laughing, Christopher C. Ferris Litchfield NH USA ferriscc@mainstream.net ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: pwatson@utdallas.edu Subject: (EMP2) If Fair Elections Are Good For The RNC ... (fwd) Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:00:54 -0600 (CST) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- (EMP2) Exegesis Update A Forum Encouraging Moral Excellence Friday, January 31, 1996 Published Worldwide from Washington If Fair Elections Are Good For The RNC, They're Good For Us All Here on 'the cutting edge of societal evolution', a quiet philosophical battle is being waged behind the scenes of the Republican Party. On one side, often known as the Bush-Dole Wing or 'moderates', line up most of the forces which have controlled the Party since World War Two, along with such names as General Colin Powell and George Bush Jr., their preferred presidential standard bearers for 2000. On the more conservative side, recently described by Jacob Heilbrunn as 'Theocons', are the forces of moral change, some stronger than others, which include such names as Alan Keyes and the new Republican National Committee Chairman Jim Nicholson. Speaker Newt Gingrich and Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott both lean ideologically toward the latter, and are currently trying to bridge both the philosophical and practical gap. The media make no secret of their preferences, of course: they like their politicos as liberal as possible. In a so-called "poll" this week, they reported that General Powell was their overwhelming popular favorite for the 2000 Republican nomination. Yet as we reported last week, George Bush Jr. is favored by the 'powers that be'. Might this explain last year's Bush (Sr.)/Powell visit to Switzerland? George Bush Jr. is a highly effective and popular Governor of Texas, whose annual State of the State speech this week was widely acclaimed, and it is worth noting that Americans seem to like both military figures and Southerners as Presidents. Either man would easily defeat Al Gore. Into this picture strides the powerful figure of Senator Fred Thompson of Tennessee, who is currently chairing the Senate investigation into campaign fund-raising. He is an impressive man, and though not a renowned military figure, he has played them so often in movies that everyone thinks he is. He is vying to fill America's John Wayne gap. And yes, he might be just the man to fill the Ronald Reagan gap. The Bush-Dole wing have conspicuously lost the last two presidential elections, and may have forfeited their chance to select another losing candidate. Beneath that possibility there lies an interesting substructure which leads us to the subject of primary elections and the fairness thereof. To put it plainly, the electorate has shifted toward the more conservative wing of the Party. The Bush-Dole wing can win the Republican nomination only if the primaries are as rigged as most were in 1996. When there is an open election, the results are plain to see. Who won almost all the straw polls in 1994/95? Senator Phil Gramm, a conservative. Who won the 1996 New Hampshire primary, one of the few not rigged? Pat Buchanan, also rumored to be a conservative. And who won the RNC election for Chairman this month: Jim Nicholson, definitely a conservative. Mr. Nicholson's election holds an important lesson for America. The election was shown live on C-SPAN. The outgoing RNC Chairman, Haley Barbour, went to great lengths to demonstrate to the nation that the voting was free and fair. It was scrupulously monitored by Arthur Anderson & Co, whose clerk held up the empty ballot box to the audience and cameras before replacing it on the table for the votes to be cast. Afterwards, still under the gaze of the rolling cameras and with scrutineers closely watching, the votes were counted and the results announced. Everyone knows without a shadow of doubt that the RNC election was fair and honest. Our point is simply this: in these days of electronic voting, computerized vote-counting and a strong suspicion of vote rigging in strategic parts of the nation, if the process we have described is good enough for the Republican National Committee, why isn't it good enough for the rest of America? Or is it that the Bush-Dole wing would prefer a Gore presidency to a conservative one? =87 Steve Myers =D7 Editor ________________________________________________________________________ =A9 Exegesis 1997 * Subscriptions USA: $32.95, Overseas: $44.95, Students: $19.95 * Internet: www.vais.net/~exegesis PO Box 789 , McLean VA 22101, USA Telephone: (703) 734 5656 * Fax: (703) 734 0606 E-Mail: exegesis@vais.net Exegesis: A Forum Encouraging Moral Excellence Please visit our award-winning web page at http://www.vais.net/~exegesis Editor Steve Myers is also CEO of ExTel, a long distance telephone service in the US offering interstate calls at just 9.9=A2 a minute, 24 hours a day= ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dick_Stephan@krinfo.com (Dick Stephan) Subject: A Dream Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:30:29 -0800 I HAD A DREAM The Democrats had regained control of the house. They, along with some of their media lapdogs, had completely filled the Georgia Dome to participate in an historic event. Newt Gingrich was being tested, to determine the degree of his guilt. In the center of the arena, Gingrich was alone, buried up to his neck in a sandpit , his hands having been tied behind his back. David Bonior and Jim McDermott smiled as they released the gate, and a vicious, rabid, 140 pound Rottweiler charged out to attack. The crowd roared its approval and watched with keen anticipation. The dog sighted the subject and charged furiously. As the running dog reached the protruding head its huge jaws snapped shut . But as the dust cleared, the crowd booed, roaring its disappointment; Newt had somehow managed to whip his head out of the way at the last moment. The massive, crazed brute was now furious. It wheeled about and charged again, recklessly, and nearly blind with rage. The crowd cheered, even more feverishly. Again Gingrich was able, at the last moment, to move his head just enough to avoid the sharp teeth as the dog charged by. Then, somehow, he managed to seize a trailing appendage of the dog and, with a superhuman effort, swung the dog in an arc and slammed it into the ground! As the dog yelped, and slinked away with his head down, a tremendous roar of disapproval came from the stadium. Growing from the chorus of boos, the chant began: FIGHT FAIR, GINGRICH! FIGHT FAIR, GINGRICH! FIGHT FAIR, GINGRICH! ... RJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BludyRed@aol.com Subject: (Fwd.) Licensed Gun Dealers Decrease Date: 30 Jan 1997 23:36:31 -0500 (EST) Subj: Licensed Gun Dealers Decrease .c The Associated Press By KAREN GULLO Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) -- Three years after toughening requirements for getting a gun dealer's license, the government says the number of federally licensed dealers has plummeted nearly 57 percent -- from 286,531 in 1993 to 124,286 early this month, the lowest level in 22 years. Requirements that gun sellers provide fingerprints and meet face-to-face with federal inspectors, as well as higher application fees and more inspections of gun shops, have helped weed out people who used to obtain licenses even though they didn't operate legitimate gun stores, said Raymond Kelly, undersecretary for enforcement at the Treasury Department. ``Three years ago the United States was awash in what I call marginal federal firearms licensees,'' said Kelly, whose office oversees the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. ``Many of them were no more than kitchen table dealers.'' Many gun dealers chose not to renew their licenses under new application rules, said Kelly, a former New York city police chief. About 2,600 gun dealers volunteered to give up their licenses and 301 had their licenses revoked. In 1993, under a presidential directive, the ATF started requiring gun license applicants to give more information and show they have a legitimate business. Fingerprints and photographs were gathered for criminal checks. The agency also raised fees for three-year licenses from $10 to $200, and for renewals from $10 to $90. A 1994 law required applicants to promise to obey state and local laws. The Brady Law added a five-day waiting period and background check for handgun sales. At the same time, the ATF stepped up inspections of gun shops and started requiring applicants to meet with inspectors. Far fewer applicants passed muster under the new policies. The current number of 124,286 dealers is the lowest since the ATF began keeping complete records on gun licenses in 1975. It is expected to fall to between 100,000 to 115,000 by the fall, when the first cycle of application renewals under the new requirements will be complete. In California, the number of gun dealers has fallen by 15,000 in the last three years to 8,827. Texas has 9,187 gun dealers today, 11,000 fewer than it did in 1993. In Montana, 1,576 fewer licenses were issued, bringing the state total down to 1,822. ``Fly-by-night gun traffickers no longer have the cover of federal law to peddle their weapons,'' President Clinton said in a statement. Gun control advocates applauded the news and said fewer bogus gun dealers are getting through system. ``These were people who were gun owners masquerading as gun dealers so they could buy guns at wholesale prices and order handguns interstate,'' said Bob Walker, president of Washington-based Handgun Control Inc. With fewer gun dealers, the ATF stands a better chance of making sure licensed dealers are legitimate, he said. ``Their enforcement task was impossible,'' Walker said. ``This helps restore some balance.'' Opponents of gun control said the number of federally licensed gun dealers has dropped so dramatically because higher fees and state zoning laws are forcing out legitimate Mom-and-Pop dealers. ``In many rural areas, there's just a local licensee,'' said Chip Walker, a spokesman for the National Rifle Association. ``A lot of people are saying `to heck with it, it's not economically feasible.''' He said a General Accounting Office audit last year showed that the majority of gun dealers who didn't renew their licenses sold fewer than six guns a year. ``The people who are dropping out are not those who sell hundreds and hundreds of guns, but people who live on farms and use their license to supplement their income,'' Walker said. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: roc Date: 30 Jan 1997 19:17:07 PST On Jan 30, Liberty or Death wrote: >>Got the digests up to yesterday, yesterday evening, but unless you posted >>this to roc instead of me, I'm still failing to get the list. Chad says the >>ISP is looking into it, but still nothing so far. > >Nope, I sent this straight to you, not the list. > >It's bound to get fixed eventually :) Yeah, I know, _Manyana!_ :-/ -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brad Dolan Subject: Ralph Reed moves to the left of Bill Clinton Date: 31 Jan 1997 00:45:02 -0500 (EST) ...and even to the left of the Republican Party, I think. "Today, we propose a bold plan that shatters the color line and bridges the gap that has separated white evangelicals and Roman Catholics from our African-American and Latino brothers and sisters," [Ralph Reed ] said. [...] The program, called the "Samaritan Project," included proposals to provide government-financed scholarships for low income children in 100 of the country's [Sounds sort of lllliberal (in the current sense of the word) to me. -bd] worst school districts to attend private schools. It also proposed a $500 tax credit for people giving money and at least 10 hours of their time to private charitable organizations that served the poor. [Hell, Clinton can just sign 'em all up for AmeriCorps. -bd] The Coalition also backed the idea of establishing so-called empowerment zones in inner cities with tax breaks for individuals starting small businesses. [Can somebody please explain to me what's going on? First Dole ran a campaign well to the left of Bill Clinton. Then Newt came out a couple weeks ago sounding like Jesse Jackson. Now this! Please stick a fork in me, I'm done. -bd] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BludyRed@aol.com Subject: C-News Posting Date: 31 Jan 1997 01:23:14 -0500 (EST) pwatson@utdallas.edu posts: >>The following is from a magazine article quoting Rev. William J.H. Boetcker titled the "Ten Cannots" originally published in 1916: - - You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. - - You cannot help small men by tearing down big men. - - You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. - - You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. - - You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich man. - - You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income. - - You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. - - You cannot establish security on borrowed money. - - You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence. - - You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves.<< I reposted this in its entirety, because these truths are timeless. Unfortunately, they are not self-evident to many. Wouldn't this make a great plank in the Democratic Party platform? Regards, Dennis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell Subject: "The Lawless Rehnquist" Date: 31 Jan 1997 04:36:44 -0800 Dear Friends, This is a friendly reminder to you, in hopes you will help Us by calling the Daily Wildcat office and request that they print the essay by John E. Trumane entitled "The Lawless Rehnquist", while Chief Justice Rehnquist is still lecturing at the UofA in Tucson (thru the end of next week). The email addresses for the Arizona Daily Wildcat, the student newspaper at the University of Arizona in Tucson, are as follows: Editor-in-Chief and Opinions: wceditor@ccit.arizona.edu News Editor: wcnews@ccit.arizona.edu Editor-in-Chief is Kelly Sampson. News Editor is Joseph Altman, Jr. Features Editor is Dorothy Parvaz. Assistant News Editors are Keith J. Allen, Jimi Jo Story. Arizona Daily Wildcat Student Union Rooom 4 University of Arizona Tucson, Arizona state Postal Zone 85721 (520) 621-3551 Wildcat on-line: wconline@ccit.arizona.edu Web site is URL: http://wildcat.arizona.edu Advertising: wcads@ccit.arizona.edu Many thanks, everyone! /s/ Paul Mitchell Here's the essay again, in case you missed it the first time: [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] "The Lawless Rehnquist" by John E. Trumane January 28, 1997 All Rights Reserved William H. Rehnquist is a lawless man. In a lecture today at the University of Arizona's Law School, the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court admitted that federal judges should be punished for serious crimes, like tax evasion. A student then drew his attention to the Supreme Court's decision in 1920 which immunized those judges from income taxes. The U.S. Constitution specifically guarantees that their pay shall not be diminished during their continuance in office. Rehnquist then replied, "There has been a change in doctrine." The class has now been barred from discussing any contemporary issues, on orders from the Law School's Dean of Academic Affairs. What doctrines, if any, have changed to justify this lawless result? Perhaps the most pernicious, and least understood of these new doctrines, is the stealthy destruction of the principles of freedom. At the turn of the century, the U.S. Supreme Court issued a series of pathetic decisions called The Insular Cases. Briefly, the high Court ruled that the Constitution of the United States, as such, does not extend beyond the limits of the States which are united by and under it. Later, in 1945, under cover of the first nuclear war on planet earth, the high Court extended this doctrine by ruling that the guarantees of the Constitution extend to the federal zone, only as Congress makes those guarantees applicable, by statutes. The federal zone is the area of land over which Congress exercises exclusive legislative jurisdiction. These are areas which are under the American flag, yet they are not within the boundaries of any particular State. They are territories, possessions and federal enclaves, like military bases. Recent research has proven, conclusively, that the Internal Revenue Code, the set of laws used to collect the income tax, can only be enforced within the federal zone, and upon citizens of that zone. A Congresswoman has even admitted as much, in 1996, on official stationery from the House of Representatives in Washington, D.C. This discovery is consistent with the doctrine established in The Insular Cases, of which Downes v. Bidwell is the most notorious. In his discussion of John Marshall's immense contribution to the history of the U.S. Supreme Court, the Chief Justice made an important point of discussing the role of dissenting opinions by other members of the high Court. When queried about contemporary practices, however, the Chief Justice deferred the matter to the end of the class. It was then that the Dean of Academic Affairs explained that contemporary practices would be off-limits, on orders from Rehnquist. Is the Chief Justice becoming a bit sensitive about dissent, particularly when those dissenters sit beside him, and decide to oppose him? Consider, for a moment, the words of Justice Harlan, whose brilliant dissent in Downes v. Bidwell has already earned him a permanent place of well deserved honor in American history. Listen to Harlan explain why the slim 5-to-4 majority in that case was wrong, flat wrong. Quoting now: "The idea prevails with some -- indeed, it found expression in arguments at the bar -- that we have in this country substantially and practically two national governments; one, to be maintained under the Constitution, with all of its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and independently of that instrument, by exercising such powers as other nations of the earth are accustomed to exercise. "I take leave to say that if the principles thus announced should ever receive the sanction of a majority of this court, a radical and mischievous change in our system of government will be the result. We will, in that event, pass from the era of constitutional liberty guarded and protected by a written constitution into an era of legislative absolutism. "It will be an evil day for American liberty if the theory of a government outside of the supreme law of the land finds lodgment in our constitutional jurisprudence. No higher duty rests upon this court than to exert its full authority to prevent all violation of the principles of the Constitution." See Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901), Harlan dissenting. And so, against these immensely moving words, we judge the Chief Justice to be a lawless radical, bent on destroying the very constitution which he is sworn to uphold. When presented with clear authority that federal judges cannot be taxed, including a seminal decision in 1920 which upheld the immunity, notwithstanding the 16th Amendment, Rehnquist glibly states that there has been a "change in doctrine" [sic]. How wonderful! What he is saying, in effect, is that the Supreme Court has aggrandized to itself the baseless power to invent doctrines according as the wind should blow, not according to the wishes of the very People who ordained and established the Constitution for the United States of America, the People whom he should serve. The net result is low fascism, and it is high time we faced the terrible truth about our lawless government leaders. For fascism arrives without fanfare, like tooth decay or dry rot, behind closed walls, until the very foundation is washed away, forever. This author received today proof that federal judges are now being blackmailed. In the 1930's, newly appointed federal judges were forced to sign contracts agreeing to the income tax, or they simply were not appointed. Despite the clear and established immunity against taxation of their pay, federal judges are now being presented with the following criminal choice: either agree in writing to waive your fundamental immunity, or forget about serving as a federal judge. Forget about integrity; forget about judicial independence; forget about justice. You may attain the lofty title of Justice, but you will enjoy that title in name only. It is no wonder that well in excess of 80% of the American People are now disgusted with government, and all of its agents. Our Chief Justice is clearly a criminal if he continues to advocate taxation of federal judges, in the face of supreme laws which maintain the contrary. Federal judges are also heavy investors in the United States Prison Industries, now the fifth largest enterprise of the whole American economy. Need we say any more? Yes, we need to say more, because the incarceration rate in the land of the free is now the highest in the world, by wide margins. You can thank William H. Rehnquist for that honorable distinction. None will dare to call it treason. # # # ==================================================================== [Text is usually formatted in Courier 11 non-proportional spacing @] [65-characters per line; .DOCs by MS-WORD for MS-DOS, Version 5.0B.] Paul Andrew Mitchell, B.A., M.S., email address: pmitch@primenet.com Web site for the Supreme Law Firm is URL: http://www.supremelaw.com Ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776, Tucson, Arizona state [We win] We can decode all your byte streams, spaghetti code notwithstanding. Coming soon: "Manifesto for a Republic" by John E. Trumane ie JetMan ==================================================================== ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: roc Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:36:43 -0500 Hmmmm. I had a strange little bug appear (several months ago, now) where the list would not appear unless I was also subscribed to the digest. Out of shear laziness, I violated nerd protocol and didn't chase this down to the end - I'm still subscribed to both roc and roc-digest. Wonder if Chad ever tracked that one down, or if some similar thing is stopping you. jcurtis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: Ralph Reed moves to the left of Bill Clinton Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:51:30 -0500 ...and even to the left of the Republican Party, I think. Here's my take on this: mainstream R's have been tussling over proposals to eliminate welfare, cut Fed social spending etc, and have private charity step in and fill the needs of people who are unable to provide for themselves. Please read my comments below. > >"Today, we propose a bold plan that shatters the color line and bridges the gap that >has separated white evangelicals and Roman Catholics from our African-American >and Latino brothers and sisters," [Ralph Reed ] said. > >[...] > Smart move. Aligning yourself with the poor regardless of color is a very Christian thing to do. >The program, called the "Samaritan Project," included proposals to provide >government-financed scholarships for low income children in 100 of the country's > >[Sounds sort of lllliberal (in the current sense of the word) to me. -bd] > I agree - bad move. Just a different flavor of Fed social spending. Why not school choice for anyone, at 70% of the per pupil public school spending? > >worst school districts to attend private schools. It also proposed a $500 tax credit >for people giving money and at least 10 hours of their time to private charitable >organizations that served the poor. > > Good move, see my first paragraph. Most of the proposed flat taxes have some sort of exemption for charitable giving. This is just a recognition that "back to work" welfare reform, plus reduced Fed social spending, plus reduced incentive for private charity is bad news - puts tremendous stress on society. >[Hell, Clinton can just sign 'em all up for AmeriCorps. -bd] > > >The Coalition also backed the idea of establishing so-called empowerment zones in >inner cities with tax breaks for individuals starting small businesses. > >[Can somebody please explain to me what's going on? First Dole ran a >campaign well to the left of Bill Clinton. Then Newt came out a couple >weeks ago sounding like Jesse Jackson. Now this! Please stick a fork in >me, I'm done. -bd] > > I think we all need a tax break, like about down to 16% or so. I was royally pissed when Newt fell behind the "flat tax for Washington D.C." proposal. Newt's contention was it was a wedge to open up consideration of national flat tax. I don't know whether ideological purity on these items is neccessary. Didn't Tommy Thompson's program for school choice in Wisconson have a low-income requirement? It was still hailed as a step in the right direction. How this will all play out is hard to tell. Could be just a stupid "solar power on the garage roof" tax break fiasco *or* it could be a wedge for: less Fed. intervention, more private charity, and more market-driven solutions like school choice and small enterprises. I think this is all evidence of people trying to do the right thing. Some of the stuff is lefty, I will aggree. If Reed can't express sympathy for the poor he's just another politico, and has kind of lost his Christian credentials. ciao, jcurtis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: boydk Subject: Re: "The Lawless Rehnquist" Date: 31 Jan 1997 09:38:29 -0800 (PST) Paul, you might have asked people to email you if they wanted another copy. That makes it easy on everyone. -Boyd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Cap Schwartz" Subject: Re: roc Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:29:48 -0800 C'mon, you guys. Can't we just own up to the fact that we're tired of having him on the list? cAp_ At 10:36 AM 1/31/97 -0500, John Curtis wrote: > > Hmmmm. I had a strange little bug appear (several months ago, > now) where the list would not appear unless I was also subscribed > to the digest. Out of shear laziness, I violated nerd protocol and > didn't chase this down to the end - I'm still subscribed to both > roc and roc-digest. Wonder if Chad ever tracked that one down, or > if some similar thing is stopping you. > > jcurtis > #include ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: berg stephen erik Subject: Re: Ralph Reed moves to the left of Bill Clinton Date: 31 Jan 1997 16:09:49 -0600 (CST) All that is happening with the good Dr. Reed, is that the conservative camo paint job is starting to flake off. Perhaps someone here on the list who is more theologically savvy can correct me, but as I recall, charity is a private virtue. Stealing other peoples' money, via the tax collector, for "good" causes, is not philanthropy, it is stealing. As I recall, a gent named Moses carried some stone tablets down a mountain with something to say about this sort of activity. Like other Republican Moderates, i.e. Speaker Gingrich, Reed has cloaked liberal activities with conservative rhetoric. Steve z931086@corn.cso.niu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: Ralph Reed moves to the left of Bill Clinton Date: 31 Jan 1997 17:46:19 -0500 >All that is happening with the good Dr. Reed, is that the conservative >camo paint job is starting to flake off. Perhaps someone here on the list >who is more theologically savvy can correct me, but as I recall, charity >is a private virtue. Stealing other peoples' money, via the tax >collector, for "good" causes, is not philanthropy, it is stealing. As I >recall, a gent named Moses carried some stone tablets down a mountain with >something to say about this sort of activity. Like other Republican >Moderates, i.e. Speaker Gingrich, Reed has cloaked liberal activities >with conservative rhetoric. > Uh. I agree, sort of. This thing has been called for about two years now by various political journals - Reed has a basic problem (which is the same basic problem that any politico at "the extremes" has) and that is: if he wants to gather more political power to himself, he is going to have to deal with centrist politicos. The more he deals with centrist politicos, the more he *looks like* a centrist politico. I think that the paint job on Newt is showing a few chips, also. He basically has the same problem: can't be majority leader of the house while still being a "radical". *I* have the same problem, in microcosm. I can't be a Republican and vote, and read the political rags, and attend rallies, etc. and *still* recognize that it is all bullshit. I do have the luxury of being able to hold self-contradictory views. Part of me believes that we are witnessing the devolution/partial collapse of the Feds. How bad it is going to get and what direction it is going to head is anybodies guess. Could be '1984' is just going to take til 2004. Maybe a lighter, brighter regime is going to rise out of the current system. I've got my doubts as to whether the Feds are capable of reforming themselves at all. jcurtis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: >>> The Idaho Observer, 1 Mo' Time... Date: 31 Jan 1997 20:16:20 -0800 OK, once again (it's getting to be a regular occurrence) it's time to announce the exciting new home base on the net for The Idaho Observer. And I do believe this will be the last time :) You can find us at http://www.proliberty.com/observer/ Yippee ky yay. And thank you all for your continued support ;) By the way, for those that didn't ask for complimentary issues of the first edition, there is a small collection of articles from it on the webpage, as well as a good explanation of who we are and why we do what we do. Later! - Monte >>> Don't Tread On Me! <<< * Psalm 33 * "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." - Samuel Adams O- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tsuma@aol.com Subject: reply from B. Boxer Date: 31 Jan 1997 22:17:45 -0500 (EST) Well, mines no different than the others, and I even got a little testy in my letter. Guess they really don't read them. No suprise there. ;-) > Thank you for recently contacting me to express your >opposition > to my bill to extend the "junk gun" import ban to the >domestic > market. I appreciate hearing your views. > My bill calls for using the same test for domestic >firearms > currently used to determine whether a weapon can be >imported. It > would apply to guns produced after the legislation is >enacted, > and it would not apply to firearms already in circulation. > According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and >Firearms, > eight of the ten firearms most frequently traced at crime >scenes > are junk guns. These guns are not sporting weapons >because they > have low accuracy and high failure rates. And because >they are > inaccurate, poorly constructed, and lacking in safety >features, > junk guns are ill-suited for home and self protection. >Keeping a > junk gun in the house is an invitation to disaster. > This legislation has been endorsed by the California >Police > Chiefs Association and 27 individual California police >chiefs and > sheriffs. Among them are the chiefs of some of >California's > largest cities, including Willie Williams of Los Angeles, >Fred > Lau of San Francisco, Art Venegas of Sacramento, and >Louis Cobarruviaz of San Jose. > Again, thank you for sharing your views with me. > Sincerely, > Barbara Boxer > United States Senator Maybe I should try the 'Flame Form Letter' :-P V. Lum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re roc Date: 31 Jan 1997 23:38:26 PST Still no posts from ROC! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH! Wuh wuh WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!! -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | If Guns are | Let he who hath no | Keep weapon in every | by COLT; | outlawed, only | weapon sell his | Your hand = Freedom | DIAL | RIGHT WINGERS | garment and buy a | Powder on every side! | 1911-A1. | will have Guns. | sword. Jesus Christ | Dry.