From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: FCC Public File Auto-FAQ Date: 01 Aug 1998 08:34:36 PST This "FAQ" is auto-posted once a month via cron triggered script, and may be triggered off by hand from time to time in between if the info is requested by someone, such as when the House recently voted down the AW Ban and the Media threw a hissy fit. The purpose of this FAQ is to inform people what they can do about Media generated lies and misinformation. While the FCC only handles Broadcast Media, (TV and Radio), some of these techniques will work for magazines and newspapers too. If I've missed something, or you find errors, let me know and I'll add/fix it. 1.a. Send letters of complaint to the Station Manager every time it happens with all the time, details, other info, and your complaint(s). 1.b. Send an additional copy for their FCC (Federal Communications Commission) Public file. 1.c. Send an additional copy to the FCC itself, in case they don't put it in their Public file. 2.a. Send a letter of complaint to their Station Owner as per above, with copies as per above (1.b and 1.c). 3. Send copies of their replies to you along with yours to them to their FCC Public file, so that it gets nice and fat, again, with copies to the FCC itself. 4. If you can afford it, send all corespondence by Certified Mail with Return Receipt Requested. Send a copy of the Return Receipt with everything that goes to the FCC itself, so that they will have additional evidence if the Station is cheating on their Public File. 5.a. Go to the Public Library and look up "Standard Rate and Data Services" (SRDS) "Directory of National Advertisers." It is found in many major Libraries (in the business/reference stacks), and lists EVERY current advertiser, who the players are at both the company and advertising agency(s), and the appropriate telephone and fax (and probably E-Mail by now) addresses. If your Library doesn't have it, it can be requested. Otherwise you can watch their commercials for a few days to a week, listing all their advertisers. There are other references that have the addresses for the nation's business headquarters too. look them all up and pass the addresses and phone/FAX numbers etc., around so that everyone can bitch to the sponsors. IF enough people do that, it'll get back to the Station. Tell them if the Station continues their nastiness you'll _consider_ changing to brand(X), (otherwise they'll just write you off as a loss). 5.b. The above, (5.a.), can be a lot easier and less time consuming if you're dealing with a newspaper's or a magazine's ads, as they are right in front of you for the listing. 6. If they put on something good or even just more reasonable, call and compliment them on it, but do _not_ send any kudos to their FCC file, or write to them about it. That way they have to keep it up and hope, as there is nothing good in the file or in writing that they can show the FCC to justify their Station's License. 7. Federal Communications Commission, Complaints and Compliance Division Room 6218, 2025 M Street NW Washington, D.C. 20554 FAX: 202-653-9659 FCC Attn: Edythe Wise -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | The _only_important_difference_ between Nazi-ism, Fascism, weapon in every | Communism, Communitarianism, Socialism and (Neo-)Liberalism hand = Freedom | is the _spelling_, and that the last group hasn't got the on every side! | Collective brains to figure it out. -- Bill Vance - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: linzellr@datastar.net (Robert Linzell) Subject: Cato: Global Warming Forecast "An Astounding Failure" Date: 01 Aug 1998 13:28:30 -0500 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------06DC170BD356FCD75A6B9915 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excerpted from: Cato Online Update Vol. 3 No. 9 July 31, 1998 http://www.cato.org --------------------------- Welcome to the latest issue of the Cato Online Update, your guide to what's happening on the Cato Web site. For instructions on how to unsubscribe from the Update, see the end of this message. Under the description of each item you will find a URL address. To access that document, enter the address into your web browser, or visit the main site at http://www.cato.org and browse around. [...snippage...] GLOBAL WARMING FORECAST HAS BEEN "AN ASTOUNDING FAILURE" Kyoto protocol is "useless appendage to an irrelevant treaty," Michaels tells Congress The forecast of global warming provided to Congress a decade ago by NASA scientist James Hanson "was an astounding failure," and the statement two years later by the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) about "the realistic nature of these projections was simply wrong," climatologist Patrick J. Michaels recently told a congressional committee. Michaels, senior fellow in environmental studies at the Cato Institute and professor of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia, testified before the House Committee on Small Business. He recalled his own testimony on the subject in 1988, in which he told Congress that "forecasts of dramatic and deleterious global warming were likely to be in error because of the very modest climate changes that had been observed to that date." Since his most recent testimony before the House in November 1997, Michaels noted that "new scientific advances . . . published in the refereed literature . . . have now proven the validity of this position." Key findings, he said, include * observed climate change is several times below the amount predicted by the climate models used for the Framework Convention on Climate Change; * in the United States, drought has decreased while flooding has not increased; * carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is increasing at a lower rate than in the United Nations' most conservative scenarios, because it is being increasingly captured by growing vegetation; * the direct warming effect of carbon dioxide was overestimated; and * the Kyoto Protocol will have no discernible impact on global climate within any reasonable time frame. If every nation met its obligations under the Kyoto Protocol, the earth's temperature in 2050 would be 0.07 degrees Celsius lower, "an amount so small that it cannot be reliably measured by ground-based thermometers," Michaels said. Thus, it will provide "no benefit at enormous cost." The Kyoto Protocol is "a useless appendage to an irrelevant treaty," and the entire Framework Convention on Climate Change should be reconsidered. Michaels is past president of the American Association of State Climatologists. He is the author of The Science and Politics of Global Warming and more than 200 scientific, technical and popular articles on climate. Testimony (http://www.cato.org/testimony/ct-pm072998.html) 1. You can subscribe and unsubscribe yourself at any time from the Cato Online Update. Simple forms to add or remove yourself are available at: http://www.free-market.net/partners/c/cato.html#lists 2. If you need further assistance, please send e-mail to cato@cato.org describing the problem you're having. Please be sure to mention the Cato Online Update in your message. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Cato Institute welcomes ideas and feedback. 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To access that document, enter the address into your web browser, or visit the main site at http://www.cato.org and browse around. [...snippage...] PROPOSED INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT THREATENS U.S. SOVEREIGNTY Potential for jurisdictional creep and arbitrary justice loom large, study says An international conference that concluded its work in Rome on July 17, 1998, produced a proposal for an International Criminal Court that "threatens to diminish America's sovereignty, produce arbitrary and highly politicized 'justice,' and grow into a jurisdictional leviathan," according to a new study issued by the Cato Institute. In "Reasonable Doubt: The Case against the Proposed International Criminal Court," Cato foreign policy analyst Gary T. Dempsey notes that "it appears that many of the legal safeguards Americans enjoy under the Bill of Rights, particularly Fifth and Sixth Amendment protections, would be unavailable if Americans were brought before the International Criminal Court." Dempsey says that the ICC draft statute does not recognize such fundamental protections as the Fifth Amendment's promise of due process or protection against self-incrimination, or Sixth Amendment protections involving the right to trial by jury. He also points out that the existing United Nations war crimes tribunal on Yugoslavia does not recognize any right against self-incrimination or the right to confront one's accusers, as the Fifth and Sixth Amendments provide. Dempsey notes that proponents of the ICC also "want to give it the authority to prosecute drug trafficking as well as such vague offenses as 'serious threats to the environment' and 'committing outrages on personal dignity.' Even if such expansive authority is not given to the ICC initially," he says, "the potential for jurisdictional creep is considerable and worrisome." "A number of countries want to have the crime of 'aggression' included in the final ICC statute," Dempsey observes, and proposed wording would include such things as bombardment and blockade of ports in the definition of aggression. Such a provision would "reduce the military options available to the United States by outlawing preemptive strikes and the kind of naval blockade President Kennedy employed during the Cuban Missile Crisis. That could effectively tie the hands of U.S. policymakers." The ICC should be rejected by the United States, Dempsey says, lest it "open a Pandora's box of legal mischief and political folly." Policy Analysis no. 311 (http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-311es.html) 1. You can subscribe and unsubscribe yourself at any time from the Cato Online Update. Simple forms to add or remove yourself are available at: http://www.free-market.net/partners/c/cato.html#lists 2. 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Sears, MSGT, USAF, 1951-1971, (Retired) fsears@bellsouth.net The Retired Military Advocate Web Site http://veteranscity.com/advocate http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/~fsears The Augusta Group Web Site http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/lig/f/s/fsears/doc11.ht For God and country - From Oklahoma City Boyd Fallwell - Veterans of America Honor Guard http://www.honorguard.org mailto: boyd@honorguard.org Also a Bulletin Board to post messages. http://www.armed-guard.com Forrest Horn's Jumpstation http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Parthenon/1626/ =20 +++ WATER +++ *** Famous Quotes on Fluorides and Fluoridation http://www.trufax.org/fluoride/quotes.html *** Chemical Manipulation of Human Populations=20 http://www.trufax.org/menu/chem.html +++ WEATHER +++ WEATHER FORECASTS http://www.iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/main.html Southwest Volcano Research Centre =20 http://www.goodnet.com/~ej76707/cerupt.htm AUSTRALIA PREPARES FOR WORST FLOOD IN 14 YEARS=20 http://www.discovery.com/news/earthalert/earthalert.html WE THE PEOPLE http://www.independence.org/ WHITEWATER THE ULIMATE WEB PAGE http://www.nauticom.net/www/cdm/whitewater.htm WHY WACO? http://www.esotericworldnews.com/whywaco.htm *** ASHES OF WACO (THE)=20 http://rampages.onramp.net/~djreavis/ *** WACO SOUND FILES 911 TAPES EXCERPTED http://rampages.onramp.net/~djreavis/sndclips.html *** CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS http://rampages.onramp.net/~djreavis/Congress.html EORONETH ON WACO http://members.tripod.com/~Eoroneth/koresh.html WACO - MOUNT CARMEL CENTER http://www.flash.net/~wyla/ WACO LINKS http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/waco-links.html WACO -RULES OF ENGAGEMENT/DOCUMENTARY(NOM FOR 1998 ACAD AWARD) http://www.waco93.com WACO-INFORMATION FROM FREEDOM OF INFO ACT(FOIA) http://www.indirect.com/http://www/dhardy/waco.html WACO WHITE PAPERS http://www.illusions.com/opf/wacoind.htm WACO - A TRUE SIDE TO EVERY STORY http://members.tripod.com/~Eoroneth/koresh.html WAHOO - HOT LINKS FOR TRADERS http://www.illuminati.com/~gibbonsb/wahoo.html *** WACO - TREASURE STATEMENT http://rampages.onramp.net/~djreavis/Treasur2.html Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum http://www.mon= umental.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/ WANTED http://www.overland.net/~embthert/em99039.html http://www.jailhurwitz.com/ WASHINGTON GRASSROOTS EMAIL LIST http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=3Dmb70701 WHO IS RUNNING AMERICA http://www.nidlink.com/~bobhrd/usfraud.html *** WILDOATES FDA ISSUES http://www.wildoats.com/cgi-bin/wo/dshea/form.pl? 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HEUSKIN) http://www.gold-eagle.com/gold_digest_98/heuskin030798.html GSA - GENERAL SERVICES ADMIN ON Y-2000 http://y2k.fts.gsa.gov/ GSA - VENDOR LINKS http://y2k.fts.gsa.gov/openinfo/index.asp#vendor_links GOVERNMENT INDUSTRY FORUM y-2000 http://y2k.fts.gsa.gov/forums/apr1998/index.html WESTGARD TIME BOMB 2000 Y2K: Nuclear Weapons Computer System Pose Worldwide Threat http://www.y2ktimebomb.com/ http://cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/9806/14/sm.02.html *** Y2K Net Family http://www.geocities.com/PicketFence/3949/index.html Y2K - TIME BOMB http://www.y2ktimebomb.com/Bios/jlbio.htm *** Microsoft Year 2000 Resource Center http://www.microsoft.com/y2k/ *** NSTL=92s Year 2000 Testing Program http://www.nstl.com/html/ymark_2000.html MORE MISC WEB SITES OF INTEREST 1897 BIBLE DICTIONARY http://ccel.wheaton.edu/easton/ebd/ebd.html & http://www.zianet.com/mida/ghost/index.html 1994 CRIMINAL TAX MANUAL (DEPT OF JUSTICE) http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/loveforamerica/index.html ACCESS TO DC-CRATS http://www.reagan.com/plate.main/congress/billsearch.html http:thomas.loc.gov AREA 51- GROOMWATCH http://www.eagle-net.org/groomwatch CATALOG OF VIDEOS, BOOKS & MORE http://www.logoplex.com/resources/mom CO SEN CHARLES DUKE EDITORIAL RE MORAL DECAY http://www.denverpost.com/news/leg33.htm CO SEN CHARLES DUKE EDITORIAL RERELIGION/MORALS http://InsideDenver.com/extra/legislature/0115legi3.html DICTIONARIES http://www.rahul.net/lai/glossaries.html ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITTANICA http://www.eb.com EXEGESIS HOME PAGE http://www3.pgh.net/~fgk/exegesis/exegesis.html FREE WEB BASED EMAIL ADDRESS http://www.angelfire.com FREE YAHOO EMAIL ADDRESS http://mail.yahoo.com HOMEWORK HELPER http://www.elibrary.com ICQ (WORLD'S LARGEST ONLINE COMMUNICATIONS NETWORK http://www.mirabilis.com INFORM AMERICA http://www.informamerica.com/ INTERNET - FLASH NET - BECOME A DISTRIBUATOR *** http://www.copyplus.net/Opportunity.html IRS 1099 FORM http://www.taxgate.com JANE'S INFORMATION STORE http://www.janes.com/janes.html MAPS http://www.mapquest.com NATIONAL CENTER FOR POLICY ANAYLYSIS http://www.ncpa.org/pointcast.html NETLINE TO CONGRESS PREVIOUS QUESTIONS http://www.netline-to-congress.com/prevquest.htm NEW RIVER, AZ & FED GOVT INTRUSION http://www.web-writer.com/newriver/ PROJECT TO RESTORE THE REPUBLIC http://www.sbacenter.com/proj-1.htm PUFORI http://www.pufori.org/picard.htm RADIO LIBERTY http://www.industries.net/radio-liberty/ http://www.audiocentral.com/rshows/rliberty/ REFERENCE MATERIALS--OLD FARMER'S ALMANAC http://www.almanac.com Save-A-Patriot http://www.save-a-patriot.org/ SLICK -ARCHIVES http://www.techmgmt.com/restore/restore.htm *** SOLWATCH http://members.aol.com/phikent/orbit/orbit.html *** STRATEGIC INVESTMENT http://www.strategicinvestment.com/ *** "TAX TRUTH 4 U"=20 http://www.taxtruth4u.com/ TELEPHONE PREFIX LOOKUP http://www.natltele.com/form.html THESAURUS, ROGET'S http://www.thesaurus.com/ TOLL-FREE DIRECTORY http://www.tollfree.att.net *** UWSA - United We Stand America - The Grass Roots http://www.uwsa.com/ VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY http://members.tripod.com/~DAVIDPARSONS/index.html VIRTUAL LAW LIBRARY http://www.law.indiana.edu/law/lawindex.html WHITE PAGES http://www.switchboard.com/bin/cgiqa.dll?MG=3D WHO'S WATCHING WHO http://www.teleport.com/~jstar/govt.html WHY WILL WE FIGHT http://xld.com/public/wwwf/index.htm WHO'S WHO ONLINE http://www.whoswho-online.com http://dragscape.com/fillusions/ http://impeachclinton.org http://www.bewellnet.com/~empower http://www.creators.com http://www.eagleflt.com http://www.isrp.org/illuminism.html http://www.lollie.com/posters/dal1.gif http://www.law.vill.edu/fed-agency/fedwebloc.html http://www.lauralee.com/sitchin.htm http://www.mediaresearch.org/news/camp92.html http://www.amargiland.com/hall-of-records/newsflash/ http://www.vineyard.net/vineyard/history/pdgech0.htm http://www.persecution.com http://members.aol.com/bach11/adventurer.htm http://home1.gte.net/13texan/1001ndx.htm http://www.prospectorsbanqueclub.com http://www.esotericworldnews.com/apfncont.htm http://www.uhuh.com/ PAULA JONES CASE AGAINST PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON -VARIOUS SITES BELOW: http://www.courttv.com/library/government/jones/staylor.html (from The American Lawyer, Nov 96) http://www.courttv.com/library/government/jones/jones_complaint.html (fr= om Newsweek May 94-Formal Complaint) http://205.181.114.35/library/government/jones/days.html (Solicitor General arguing immunity from prosecution while in office) http://www.aclu.org/court/jones.html (ACLU Brief filed-Oct 96) http://www.deardolly.com GLOBAL CLIMATE INFORMATION The following links are potential resources that can supplement the information available on the Global Climate Information Project site. Not responsible for the information presented, nor to the availability of these sites. AMERICAN PETROLEUM INSTITUTE http://www.api.org/globalclimate/starta.htm COMPETITIVE ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE http://www.cei.org COOLER HEADS COALITION http://www.globalwarming.com CORPORATION FOR NATION SERVICE http://www.cns.gov/ GEORGE C. MARSHALL INSTITUTE http://www.marshall.org GLOBAL CLIMATE COALITION http://www.worldcorp.com/dc-online/gcc/ SCIENCE & ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY PROJECT http://www.his.com/~sepp/ WORLD CLIMATE REPORT http://www.nhescom +++ GOVT-MISC DEPARTMENTS - UNITED NATIONS - WORLD COURT +++ AGRICULTURE DEPT http://www.usda.gov AIR FORCE http://www.af.mil ARMY http://www.army.mil *** ARMY SECURTY AGENCY HISTORY WEBSITE http://www.npoint.net/maddog/asa02x.htm BILDBERGER CONFERENCE SUMMARY 1998 http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley/bild98.htm *** CICC - International Criminal Court=20 http://www.igc.org/icc/html/the_court.htm CENSUS BUREAU http://www.census.gov *** Center for Democracy and Technology http://www.cdt.org/=20 CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY http://www.odci.gov.cia CHAMBER OF COMMERCE http://www.uschamber.org CIA WORLD FACTBOOK http://www.odci.gov.ciapublications/95fact/index.html CIVILIAN INFORAMTION ARCHIVES http://fci.reedsweb.net/main/ CODE http://www.law.house.gov.usc.htm CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS CFR http://www.law.house.gov/cfr.htm +++ CONGRESS +++ U.S. CONGRESS - CALL 1-800-504-0031 OR 202-224-3121 SENATE: http://www.senate.gov SENATE EMAIL ADDRESS: http://www.senate.gov/senator/membmail.html http://www.senate.gov/senator/state.html Senate Judiciary Committee members with contact information: http://www.senate.gov/committee/judiciary.html HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES -=20 http://www.house.gov House Of Representatives (EMAIL) http://www.house.gov/writerep/ House Judiciary Committee members with contact information: http://www.house.gov/judiciary/mem105.htm HOUSE AS THE SPEAKER http://speakernews.house.gov/asknewt/ QUICK SEARCH TEXT OF BILLS 105th CONGRESS: http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.html?66,9 HOUSE - DOWNLOADING BILL TEXT http://thomas.loc.gov/home/billdwnloadhelp.html CONTRACTING CONGRESS http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/ COMMERCE DEPT http://www.doc.gov CONSTITUTION http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html CUSTOMS SERVICE http://www.ustreas.gov/treasury/bureaus/customs/npr.html DEFENSE DEPT http://www.dtic.dla.mil/defenselink DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY http://www.dai.mil DOJ - Kids page http://www.usdoj.gov/kidspage/bias-k-5/home_intro.htm Dept. of Justice http://www.usdoj.gov/ *** ECOMONIC Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) http://www.amb-usa.fr/usoecd/usoecd.htm EDUCATION DEPT http://www.ed.gov EDWARD DIGITAL LIBRARY http://www.lowe.org/search.htm EMBASSY DIRECTORY http://www.embpage.orgENERGY DEPT http://www.doe.gov ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY http://www.epa.gov FANNIE MAE http://www.fanniemae.com FBI http://www.fbi.gov FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION http://www.faa.gov FEDERAL BUSINESS ADVISOR http://www.business.gov FCC - Federal COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION http://www.fcc.gov *** FCC PATRIOT IN TROUBLE FOR OPERATING COMMUNITY RADIO http://home1.gte.net/lkobres/ http://www.fcc.gov/year2000/ FEDERAL DOCUMENTS http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/sale/asale001.html *** FEC (FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION) http://www.fec.gov/ http://www.fec.gov/press/softmone.htm *** FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AGENTIES DIRECTORY http://www.lib.lsu.edu/gov/fedgov.html FEDERAL REGISTER http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aaces001.html http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/fr-cont.html FEDERAL TRADE COMMISION http://www.ftc.gov *** FDA ISSUES http://www.wildoats.com/know/dshea.html FREEMEN TRIAL UPDATES http://www.esotericworldnews.com/freeman.htm FIGJA - Freemen Trial Updates http://www.VoyagerOnline.net/rangguid/justus.htm FOOD & DRUG ADMINISTRATION http://www.fda.gov GAO - U.S. GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE http://www.gao.gov/ GAS - U.S. GENERAL SERVICES ADMIN http://www.itpolicy.gsa.gov/mks/yr2000/tele.htm http://y2k.fts.gsa.gov/ GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE http://www.access.gpo.gov *** GPO - KEEPING AMERICA INFORMED ELECTRONICLY http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aaces002.html GOVT. CONSUMER INFORMATION CENTER http://www.peublo.gsa.gov HEALTH & HUMAN RESOURCES http://www.os.dhhs.gov HOOVER'S COMPANY CAPSULES http://www.hoovers.com HOUSING & URBAN DEVELOPMENT http://www.hud.gov ICQ (Download) Chat/email/more http://www.icq.com/icqhomepage.html IMPORT-EXPORT DIRECTORY http://www.aphis.usda.gov/oa/imexdir.html INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY http://www.odci.gov/ic INTERIOR, DEPT. OF http://www.doi.gov INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE http://www.irs.ustreas.gov *** IRS EXISTING CONTRACTS http://www.treas.gov/sba/irssic.html IRS TAX CODE http://www.fourmilab.ch/ustax/ustax.html JUSTICE DEPT http://www.usdoj.gov LABOR DEPT http://www.dol.gov LIBRARY OF CONGRESS http://www.loc.gov OR http://www.lcweb.loc.gov LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, THOMAS http://www.thomas.loc.gov MARINE CORPS http://www.usmc.mil *** Multi Agency Federal Task Force (PCCIP) http://seasurf.com/~radioman/nsc.html NASA http://www.nasa.gov NATIONAL DEPT. CLOCK http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH http://www.nih.gov NAVY http://www.ncts.navy.mil NATIONAL OCEANIC ATOMOSPHERE ADMINISTRATION=20 POSTAL SERVICE http://www.usps.gov RESOURCES FOR ECONOMISTS http://www.wueconb.wustl.educ/EconFAQ/node1.html SEC CORPORATE FILINGS DATABASE http://www.edgar.stern.nyu.edu.EDGAR/toolsNT.html SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION http://www.sbaonline.sba.gov/intro.html SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTE http://www.si.edu/newstart/htm SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION http://www.ssa.gov SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS http://www.ssa.gov.OACT/ANYPIA/anypia.html SOCIAL SECURITY FORMS http://www.ssa.gov/online/forms.html *** How to Save Social Security: Opt Out!=20 http://www.teleport.com/~prf/ss/jul98/dn7-14.html STATE DEPT http://www.state.gov STATE DEPT/TRAVEL WARNINGS http://www.travel.state.gov TERM LIMITS http://www.termlimits.org TRANSPORTATION DEPT http://www.dot.gov TREASURY DEPT http://www.ustreas.gov *** U.S. SUPREME COURT OPINIONS http://caselaw.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=3Dcase&court=3DUS&vol= =3D240&pa +++ UN - UNITED NATIONS +++ http://www.un.org UN - DISARM AMERICA STATE DEPT 7277 http://harvest-trust.org/7277.htm *** UN Heritage Sites in the USA. =20 http://www.nwi.org/Maps/Heritage.html *** UN - Alabama Committee to get us out of the UN http://themustardseed.home.mindspring.com *** UN - United Nations Vehicles On U.S. Soil! (Posted 7/21/98) These photos are of actual United Nations vehicles on the soil of America. These vehicles are coming into our ports -- namely Port Beaumont, Texas--at a staggering rate. UN Vehicles Just Off The Port http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh1.htm Rear View of the Vehicles http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh2.htm Close-up http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh3.htm Another close-up http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh4.htm Transport through City http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh5.htm Convoy of Trucks http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unveh6.htm UN Ambulance 1 http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unambul1.htm UN Ambulance 2 http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unambul2.htm UN Bus http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/unbus.htm Missle Launcher Truck http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/missltr.htm East German Vehicles http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/germveh.htm U.N. TREATY DATABASE http://www.un.org/Depts/Treaty http://www.unhchr.ch/html/50th/50anniv.htm *** Who's Who in the United Nations Drug Control Apparatus=20 http://www.lindesmith.org/news/background.html *** Alabama Committee to get us out of the UN http://themustardseed.home.mindspring.com Watch the UN rag burn! http://www.aloha.com/~nonperzon/animates/unburn.htm UNITED STATES CODE http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ VETERANS ADMINISTRATION http://www.va.gov VISA INFORMATION http://www.travel.state.gov/visa_services.html WASHINGTON GRASSROOTS EMAIL LIST http://www.InsideTheWeb.com/messageboard/mbs.cgi?acct=3Dmb70701 WHITE HOUSE http://www.whitehouse.gov WHITE HOUSE PUBLICATIONS (EO'S PDD'S NSDD ETC.) http://www.pub.whitehouse.gov/WH/Publications/html/Publications.html *** Presidential Directives and Executive Orders http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/direct.htm#eo *** PDD 63 - WHITE PAPER http://www.whitehouse.gov/WH/EOP/NSC/html/NSCDoc3.html *** EXECUTIVE ORDERS BY JOHN KENNEDY http://www.lib.umich.edu/libhome/Documents.center/jfkeo/exonum.htm *** EXECUTIVE ORDERS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT http://www.gold.globalcenter.net/executiveorders.html *** EXECUTIVE ORDER 13083 http://www.uhuh.com/nobypass/eo13083/list13083.htm *** Executive Orders Ushering in Socialist Dictatorship http://thewinds.org/archive/government/executive_orders07-98.html Executive Order 13083 =3D Death of Article X http://www.tricor.net/~myfirst/Federalism.htm EO 13083 It was a delayed explosion http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-07/16/139l-071698-idx.ht= ml ZIP CODE LOOK UP & ADDRESS INFORMATION http://www.usps.gov/ncsc To all APFN FRIENDS: http://www.angelfire.com/tx/schase/friends.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Add or suggestions web pages to this list email: APFN@netbox.com APFN WEB: http://www.esotericworldnews.com/apfncont.htm American Patriot Friends Network (APFN) Without Justice, there is JUST_US! 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Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Heads Up #96 (fwd) Date: 02 Aug 1998 08:27:55 PST On Aug 01, Doug Fiedor wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Heads Up A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia August 2, 1998 #96 by: Doug Fiedor fiedor19@eos.net Previous Editions at:=20 http://www.uhuh.com/headsup.htm and http://mmc.cns.net/headsup.html POLLS TO CONTROL IMPEACHMENT It=92s getting worse every week. Within a day=20 of any new published piece of Clinton scandal information,=20 the national media produce polls telling Americans what we=20 think about it. And, invariably, what Americans are told=20 they =93think about it=94 is favorable to the White House=20 gang=92s point of view. One sorry fact is that the national media is=20 acting as the propaganda machine for the overactive White=20 House disinformation committee. Twice a day, the White=20 House faxes their talking points around the country. =20 That=92s why it is no coincidence that all Clinton defenders=20 use exactly the same words every day -- words that sound=20 surprisingly like Ann Lewis is talking, because she=20 usually writes them. And who the hell is paying Lanny Davis to be=20 on nearly every news program almost every evening? =20 Surely, he cannot be making a public ass of himself so=20 often without very good compensation. Davis is getting to=20 be as difficult to believe as Ginsburg was. Anytime a member of the national media cadre=20 strikes out on their own and appears to acquire a little=20 scandal nugget from a =93leak,=94 we soon find that the=20 published leak was little more than a nugget of fool=92s=20 gold, intentionally planted by the administration. Yet,=20 the media never bother to correct their misinformation. Clearly, in this Clinton scandals matter, the=20 national press corps is either intentionally negligent or=20 totally duped. They fill the newscasts with stories of=20 the Valley tart, yet seldom report anything of the=20 important scandals. The story, the real scandals, the impeachable=20 offenses, includes those FBI files illegally obtained by=20 the White House, and the strong possibility that the=20 information in those files is being used to influence=20 select Members of Congress. More specifically, the=20 impeachable scandal is the White House=92s relationship=20 with China -- both the crimes concerning illegal campaign=20 funds and money laundering, and the reason behind=20 supplying China with so much of our top-secret military=20 technology. Another real scandal in Washington is why=20 nothing is being said about those six Senators and dozen=20 or so Representatives who are deeply involved in all of=20 the corruption with China. For instance, there has not=20 yet been one peep about Senator Christopher Dodd who, as=20 chairman of the Democratic National Committee, was=20 directly responsible for the illegal campaign fund money=20 laundering from all sources. On the other hand, it is probably because so=20 many Members of Congress are involved in the China and=20 campaign fund money laundering scandals that nothing will=20 be done. Janet Reno refuses to appoint a special counsel. =20 She has also refused to allow anyone, including Congress,=20 to see the report from Charles G. La Bella, who headed the=20 attorney general=92s campaign financing task force. That=92s=20 probably because, as rumor has it, there is enough=20 evidence to convict both Clinton and Gore. Then there=92s Hillary. With the morals of=20 Catherine the Great, the disposition of Marie Antoinette=20 and a mouth that sounds like she was raised in a=20 longshoremen=92s bar, Hillary moved right in the White House=20 and occupied herself affecting the course of government. =20 Hillary was not elected or appointed to any post in=20 government, yet she continues to interfere with government=20 operation. Surely, Hillary must have committed many=20 violations of law, but nothing gets reported by the press. (See, =93No Co-President Wanted=94 in issue #72) Reports are that at least two Congressional=20 committees are investigating the illegal transfer of high- tech military secrets to China. Yet, we hear nothing of=20 the investigation. Will this information also go the way=20 of the Chinese campaign fund money laundering unearthed=20 by the Thompson Committee, and be permanently sealed=20 from the eyes of the American public under that overused=20 guise of =93national security=94? Probably. That=92s how they=20 hide most government wrongdoing. Other solid rumors have it that Independent=20 Counsel Kenneth Starr=92s impeachment report to Congress is=20 topping 300 pages already. More interesting, only about 5%=20 of the report is said to concern the Lewinsky affair. Pay=20 back is a bitch, and Starr owes that loathsome White House=20 crew a lot for all the aggravation they have been giving=20 him. Apparently, the day of reckoning is rather near. Then comes another problem: Will we taxpayers=20 get to see that impeachment report, or will that too be=20 hidden under the carpet of national security? And, will=20 Congress even bother to take action? There is some=20 speculation about the intent of Congress. They obviously=20 do not want to act. =93If the American people don't want impeachment=20 to take place, I don't think impeachment will take place,=94=20 Rep. Charles Canady (R-Fla.), a member of the House=20 Judiciary Committee, told Knight-Ridder News Service=20 Thursday. =93That's the way a representative democracy=20 works.=94 No it=92s not. Whatever happened to honor,=20 duty and the rule of law? Again, it=92s back to those media polls. Many=20 members of Congress say they have no plans to act as long=20 as Clinton is high in the polls. No matter, apparently,=20 that Clinton and others are felons. If the poll ratings=20 are high, no action will be forthcoming. And Clinton=92s=20 sycophants in the media control most of the polls. MAKE GOVERNMENT DO IT FIRST Whatever happened to that ruling by Newt=20 and the =93Republican revolution=94 that government employees=20 would be required to follow all laws, rules and regulations=20 to the letter? Apparently, as can be expected, the federal=20 bureaucracy didn=92t want any part of that deal -- the=20 feeling being that laws, rules and regulations are to be=20 directed at the serf-citizens, not the controlling=20 government elite. Perhaps it is time that we serf-citizens=20 demand that all government programs (and harebrained=20 schemes) be instituted for all government departments,=20 agencies, officials, bureaucrats and employees before they=20 are inflicted on the American public. For instance, they complain about the drain=20 on the non-existent Social Security fund (they spent all=20 the money). Well, government employees do not pay Social=20 Security. They have another, much better, retirement=20 system. However, those in government who worked at one=20 time or another in the real world will also receive Social=20 Security when they retire. What kind of deal is this? =20 All government workers should contribute to Social=20 Security just like real people. Government has a medical insurance program=20 called Medicare. Government workers, however, have a=20 much better medical insurance program. Under Medicare,=20 recipients may not supplement medical coverage with their=20 own funds. Government employees can not only choose=20 between health insurance programs, they can also do as=20 they please with their own money. In other words, public servants get the=20 freedom, senior citizens get the restrictions. If that is=20 not an =93elite=94 arrangement, we don=92t know what could be=20 classified as such. All government employees -- elected officials,=20 bureaucrats and workers alike -- should be covered under=20 Medicare, and be forced to obey the same stupid rules and=20 regulations they inflicted on American senior citizens. =20 No more should public servants have better health care=20 than the people they serve -- their masters. The Environmental Protection Agency,=20 prompted by Al Gore, imposes strict rules and regulations=20 on industry and the American public. Yet, they feel free=20 to tool around in large limousines and jet aircraft, often=20 with only one or two passengers. All officials of all=20 departments of government should be relegated to flying=20 commercial and driving the most environmentally friendly=20 transportation available: such as electric vehicles. And=20 what=92s this deal with EPA and other agencies cutting grass=20 on hot, smoggy Washington afternoons? Can=92t these jerks=20 follow their own stupid rules? All government vehicles should be totally=20 environmentally friendly. That includes those military=20 vehicles, most of which have no emissions control=20 equipment. At the very least, they should keep military=20 vehicles away from civilian areas until they are compliant. =20 No federal vehicles ever have emissions inspections, yet=20 most are located in urban areas where bureaucrats insist=20 civilian vehicles be regularly checked. The federal=20 government has become a bad neighbor, a major source of=20 air pollution. This must not be allowed to continue. The complete fleet of federal vehicles should=20 be the most environmentally friendly available. Electric=20 vehicles, preferably. Let government agents become the=20 laboratory to test the new technology. If they call for=20 downsized and underpowered vehicles, let all federal=20 departments show leadership by putting the first few=20 millions miles on them. It should be =93show us how they=20 work, or shut up!=94 Government wants specialized ID cards and a=20 tracking system for all Americans. Fine. They should=20 first set up a specialized ID card and tracking system for=20 every government employee. And, put it on the Internet=20 so American citizens can see where their federal employees=20 are and what they are doing 24 hours a day. Let=92s insist=20 that government try that out for a few years. Then, maybe=20 we=92ll want such a system for us, too. But first, they must=20 do it. Add your own favorite government program=20 here. Whatever it is, chances are good that if it is=20 imposed on the American public, most federal departments=20 and agencies get a pass and will not participate. That=20 practice must end. It=92s time we turn the tables on this obtuse,=20 obnoxious, ever-extending beast we call the federal=20 government. We must reaffirm our rightful position as=20 masters and return them to their place as our servants. =20 As is our right, we can impose these programs on federal=20 officials, bureaucrats and employees. Under the=20 restraints set down in the Constitution, however, the=20 federal government has no authority to impose any of=20 them on us. That they do so is partly our fault. We have=20 been negligent masters. We allowed that huge hand of=20 government to overextend an inch at a time. Now it is=20 everywhere, controlling everything, and has grown much too=20 large for a simple rap on the knuckles. Only a loud=20 unified command, a stern order, shouted in unison by=20 Americans from coast to coast, can scare that=20 overextending hand of big government into retracting. Is the future freedom of your children and=20 grandchildren worth the effort of enforcing our=20 Constitution? If so, speak up. STOP THE PERPETRATOR NOW Here in our corner of Appalachia, we have=20 some rather interesting self-defense laws. We have a new=20 concealed weapons carry law now. But, unlike other=20 States, this law includes guns, knives, swords,=20 switchblades, and what have you. And, for those who just=20 want to strap on the old revolver, and don=92t care who sees=20 it, no permission of any kind is necessary. The actual self-defense part of it gets a=20 little trickier, though. If an intruder enters your=20 dwelling unannounced, you may shoot them. But, only after=20 they are all the way inside. Also, as is usually the case, if some bad guy=20 points a gun at a law abiding citizen, that citizen may=20 shoot the perpetrator. That action is clearly self=20 defense. The question of the moment, then, is would=20 you do business -- normal everyday type commercial=20 business -- with someone who continuously points a gun at=20 you? OK then, how about if it=92s a really, really big gun,=20 and it=92s not exactly pointed at you personally, but at=20 your whole neighborhood in particular. Does that make it=20 easier to do business with them? Probably not, most=20 people would answer. However, that=92s the problem we have. In this=20 case, the really big =93gun=94 is a nuclear warhead sitting on=20 top of a very large rocket. There are already twelve of=20 them pointed at American neighborhoods, and soon there=20 are to be eighteen. As said above, in most parts of the world,=20 when someone points a gun at you, that is justifiable=20 cause to shoot them. Should governments be different? =20 Just because the perpetrator, in this case China, can make=20 crispy critters of us a few million at a time does not=20 seem to change these parameters. Yet, we buy their products. Congress just=20 voted China Most Favored Nation trade status again. And,=20 we are running at least a $45-billion trade deficit with=20 China annually. So, it was with great interest that we read the=20 July 27 Associated Press report from Beijing which began: =20 =93China hinted on Monday that the United States was a=20 potential threat to its security, issuing its first public=20 defense policy review in three years.=94 The commie dictators were taking spin=20 lessons from the White House gang, it seems. They point=20 the nukes at us, then say that we are a security threat to=20 them. Clinton has been using that type of logic=20 successfully for at least six years. The American people=20 haven=92t noticed because the craven national press corps=20 backs up Clinton. But the Chinese noticed the propaganda=20 technique. The commie dictator euphemism for the=20 United States position, and our relationship with Japan,=20 is now =93hegemonism=94 (The predominant influence of one=20 state over others). =93Hegemonism and power politics remain=20 the main source of threats to world peace and stability,=94=20 the Chinese communist dictators said. =93Some countries,=20 by relying on their military advantages, pose military=20 threats to other countries, even resorting to armed=20 intervention.=94 They ramped things up another notch by=20 calling the U.S.-Japan security treaty =93an infringement=20 upon and interference in China=92s sovereignty.=94 And,=20 probably looking for eventual control over our oil supply=20 route, the Chinese dictators also established military and=20 political association with countries such as Bangladesh,=20 Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Nepal, Bhutan, Iran, Saudi Arabia and=20 Pakistan. Communist China also renewed its threat=20 to retake Taiwan, by force if necessary, and then=20 criticized nuclear tests by India and Pakistan. =20 Apparently, the Chinese dictators do not want any nearby=20 country to have self defense capabilities. Again, the proper response to someone pointing=20 a gun at you is, if at all possible, to shoot them. China=20 is arming itself as fast as possible. We are already in=20 their ICBM sights. We can stop their mischief now, or we=20 can go to war with their well-equipped military later. =20 Quick and easy, or long and hard. Either way, it appears=20 that the United States is going to be forced to take=20 action. AMERICAN SOVEREIGNTY An address by Rep. Traficant (D-OH) to the=20 House of Representatives on July 22, 1998 =93Mr. Speaker, the World Bank makes loans=20 to communists with American dollars. The World Trade=20 Organization regularly rips us off. The United Nations=20 sends American troops into war. That is right. We are=20 not sending the Peace Corps here, folks. =93If that is not enough to compromise your=20 Viagra, the United Nations has created a world court with=20 universal authority and jurisdiction. Unbelievable. What=20 is next, a world tax? Beam me up. =93I say the Constitution of the United States=20 should not be surrendered to a bunch of international=20 bureaucrats who regularly rule against us, ladies and=20 gentlemen. =93Now, I do not know about you, but I did not=20 pledge an oath to the charter of the United Nations. I=20 pledged an oath to the Constitution of the United States=20 and I think the Congress of the United States should put=20 its foot down before we become known as background music=20 in some doctor's office. =93I yield back any courage we have left.=94 LINDA TRIPP SPEAKS There is little honor or integrity among=20 politicians and bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. If there=20 were, public officials would not violate the oath they=20 swore before God and man to protect and defend (and, one=20 would think, to obey) our Constitution. The =93truth=94 expressed by the federal=20 government usually consists of only those =93facts=94=20 supporting the expediency of the citizen control plan at=20 hand, and seldom has any real connection with the actual=20 needs and will of the American people. It is, therefore, very uncommon for a federal=20 government employee to go against the bureaucratic flow,=20 no matter how obnoxious to individual freedom the proposed=20 government action may be. To do so could cause severe=20 repercussions for any prospective =93whistle-blower.=94 And=20 when the wrongdoers include members in the highest levels=20 of government, whistle blowing can even become down right=20 dangerous. So it was for Linda Tripp. In his Creators=20 Syndicate piece next Monday, Tony Snow is to reveal that=20 senior presidential adviser Bruce Lindsey told Linda Tripp=20 she would be =93destroyed=94 if she went public with anything=20 she had seen. It should be remembered that Tripp was the=20 last person in the White House to see Vincent Foster alive. =20 She has first hand knowledge of the Kathleen Willey story. =20 Some say that Tripp saw the illegally obtained FBI=20 background check file information being entered into the=20 White House computer database. And, she probably has a=20 great deal of information on other White House personnel=20 wrongdoing. Truly, it takes a great deal of honor,=20 integrity and valor to speak out when one knows very well=20 that the full force of the executive branch of the federal=20 government may be used in retaliation. But, speak out Linda Tripp did. And we can=20 imagine that she told the grand jury everything. For=20 that, we all owe Linda our thanks. Drop her a line at:=20 linda@lindatripp.com and tell her what you think. Meanwhile, for the many who missed it, below=20 is the complete text of Tripp=92s press conference after=20 completing her testimony before the grand jury. Good afternoon. I'm not a public speaker. I=20 am going to have to refer to my notes. Please bear with=20 me. I've just completed my testimony before the=20 federal grand jury. This has been a lengthy process and,=20 as I'm sure you can imagine, a very difficult one. While I am relieved that the testimony has=20 come to an end, I am glad to have fulfilled my legal=20 obligation to the grand jury by testifying truthfully and=20 completely. I hope -- I sincerely hope -- that all remaining=20 witnesses will do the same. I am encouraged that it appears from press=20 reports that Monica (Lewinsky) has decided to cooperate=20 with the independent counsel. The facts will show that=20 time after time, I urged her to tell the truth right up=20 until the end. I understand that there has been a great deal=20 of speculation about just who I am and how I got here. =20 Well, the answer is simple. I=92m you. I=92m just like you. =20 I=92m an average American who found herself in a situation=20 not of her own making. I'm a suburban mom, who was a military=20 wife for 20 years, and a faithful government employee for=20 18 years. I never, ever asked to be placed in this=20 position. Because I am just like you, I ask you to=20 imagine how you would feel if someone you thought was a=20 friend urged you to commit a felony that could jeopardize=20 your job, potentially put you in jail and endanger the=20 well-being of your children. Imagine how you would feel if your boss=92=20 attorney called you a liar in front of the whole country. =20 And imagine if that boss was the president of the United=20 States. Imagine how you would feel if your employer=20 illegally released your confidential records to the media,=20 then demoted you and cast you aside for daring to tell the=20 truth. Imagine how it would feel to see the pain=20 in your children=92s eyes when they hear a seemingly endless=20 barrage of lies about their mother, a mother who is not=20 going out to defend herself. As a result of simply trying to earn a living,=20 I became aware between 1993 and 1997 of actions by high=20 government officials that may have been against the law. For that period of nearly five years, the=20 things I witnessed concerning several different subjects=20 made me increasingly fearful that this information was=20 dangerous, very dangerous, to possess. On Jan. 12, 1998, the day I approached the=20 Office of the Independent Counsel, I decided that fear=20 would no longer be my master. This investigation has=20 never been, quote, =91just about sex.=92 It has been about=20 telling the truth. The truth matters. For example, it matters that you know now=20 that I have testified to the fact that I had nothing, let=20 me repeat, nothing to do with preparing the so-called=20 talking points. Allegations to the effect that I=20 contributed to or assisted in any way with the creation=20 of the talking points are as illogical as they are=20 patently false. I have been vilified for taking the path=20 of truth. I've been maligned by people who have chosen=20 not to tell the truth, and who know that they are not=20 telling the truth. That=92s a pretty frightening thing. To=20 cast me in the role of the villain, they have enlisted=20 legions of paid prevaricators, not surprisingly, many in=20 the entertainment industry have chosen to ridicule me as=20 well. Going so far as to even make fun of my appearance=20 in a manner so mean and so cruel that I pray none of you=20 is ever subjected to it. Despite all of that, I bear no malice toward=20 anyone in this case. I have never had any political=20 agenda. I still don't. I have been honored to serve=20 presidents in both parties. I want to say a word about the people who've=20 supported me throughout this ordeal. I don't believe=20 they're Washington insiders. I don't think that they're=20 the politically connected. But they have made a=20 noticeable effort to have their voice heard and to support=20 me and my family. It has meant a great deal to us. So=20 for all of that, I thank each and every one of them. I'd=20 also like to take this opportunity to thank the men=20 standing with me today for their unfailing support and=20 superb counsel. Anthony Zaccagnini, Joe Murtha and Philip=20 Coughter. I certainly could not have gotten through=20 this without the love and support of my children, Ryan and=20 Allison, who are here with me today, and a very strong=20 extended family. I believe in our country -- as I said,=20 I'm no different than any of you. I believe you have the=20 right to tell the truth under oath, and I believe you have=20 the right to do so without fear of retribution or worse. I hope that when all the facts are revealed,=20 you'll understand that it is a right all of us should be=20 fighting for. Thank you. -- Linda Tripp, July, 29, 1998 -- End -- [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [Fwd: Gun Registration (fwd)] (fwd) Date: 03 Aug 1998 00:11:45 PST On Aug 3, globallaw@tidalwave.net wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Forwarded message by Tom Walls: South African author Paul Diekelmann on Global effort to disarm national citizenry. "A system of licensing and registration, is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie." -- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin Very interesting and provocative comments, which I thought were from a South African - the address in Canadian, however. Maybe a former South African. Tom Walls ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Cc: sa-gunner List Lest we forget, the impetus for gun control is coming from the United Nations. Parliament, politicians, Congresses, Rulers and bureaucrats of what will be formerly independent Nations, such as Canada, Australia, United States, Britain, etc have, by Treaty, bought into the U.N. agenda to remove firearm weapons from every person in the World. Treaties, at least under the U.S. Constitution have the same legal footing as the Constitution itself, and force of Law. The purpose of disarmament is violence control for social good. To prevent local Wars, insurrections, and genocide like in Bosnia, Somalia, Cambodia. A disarmed world will lead to a happy, safer world. And social bureaucrats will be able to lift poverty peoples up without fear of personal violence. The use of miniscule gun related crime statistics in a country does not justify the force, momentum and dollars expended on the issue. There are diseases and other social problems much more destructive that are ignored. So there must be some other purpose promoting firearms control. When all firearms are removed and only the military and police remain armed, International government can implement programs to promote love and respect among world citizens of the former independent Nations. And equalize produce among citizens. National boundaries are expected to disappear sometime in the not distant future. There will be no more Canada, U.S., Mexico. Instead, proposed to replace them are Administrative Regions and Districts, under Global Government political guidance. All National Constitutions and Charters will be absorbed into the United Nations governing documents. Political theories such as Communism and Capitalism will be replaced with social action and infrastructure development. But gun control/disarmament must be a foundation stone of the New World Order. Whole populations should be moved from unproductive areas of Africa, Asia, Mexico, etc to fill the massive empty unproductive spaces of North America. Here, the children and grandchildren of presently starving poor will be given assistance in farming and self-sufficient work. Disarmament of world citizens is essential to prevent insurrection and "nationalist" violence when groups of unelightened people in the former "Nations" begin to fight against International Government to protect what was formerly deemed Canadian, American, Australian, etc National Rights and heritage. Arguments for and against gun control, and population disarmament should include acknowledgment of the larger than National boundary issues. Control may be necessary for a World Government to be able to rule without parochial uprisings draining International Resources and resulting in the deaths of thousands of men, women and children as the process of globalization quickens. To argue gun control and disarmament with elected representatives is useless. The Elected and the Electors are both being herded into and under Global Govenment by the phantom force of social evolution. This Evolution dictates that resistence is a futile exercise to preserve archaic National boundaries. In order to discuss gun control and citizen disarmament properly, the arguers need to be constantly aware of the movement's source and strength. Discussion needs to include the damage done to children in Bosnia, Somalia and other places as a result of weaponry in the hands of "National" people's armies and guerilla fighters. Not just the very few children, and others, killed by use of firearms in North America. Disarmament is not a Canadian, Australian, British, etc issue. It is an international government agenda item with the force of World commonweal behind it. Given that the United World bureaucracy is behind the disarmament movement, and National politicians are merely mid-level managers in the World Government structure, What's a citizen to do to preserve presumed chartered/constitutional Rights? Perhaps he/she should look at the global picture and present alternatives from that perspective? Paul Diekelmann An old man with a view. Baddeck, Cape Breton Island [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: Commander Donaldson Wins converts to TWA800 theory Date: 03 Aug 1998 08:05:30 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: NYO: Philip Weiss: Commander Donaldson Wins Converts to His Flight 800 Missile Theory Commander Donaldson Wins Converts to His Flight 800 Missile Theory by Philip Weiss This column ran on page 1 in the 8/3/98 edition of The New York Observer.=20 The Army and Navy Club on Farragut Square in Washington, D.C., is the sort of place I would have spat on or screamed myself hoarse in front of back when I was marching in the George McGovern battalion, but on July 20 the radicals were meeting inside, and I satisfied myself with flouting the coat-and-tie dress code as I made my way past the oil of Eisenhower to the upstairs ballroom.=20 The hall was swarming with old brass. Two admirals, a brigadier general, retired captains and majors. Hard to tell some of these upright old coots from the paintings on the wall! Then a bull-like man in his 50=92s, wearing a rustic-looking blue suit, bright red suspenders and a tie with a fighter plane pin, grabbed the podium with big rough hands.=20 "This will be a military-style briefing. I would appreciate during the formal part of this that if you have questions jot them down," Bill Donaldson said, and then spoke for almost three hours in a surprisingly musical voice.=20 Commander Donaldson is not someone you want to tangle with. As an attack pilot, he flew 86 combat missions over Vietnam and Laos. Later he conducted numerous crash investigations before retiring to an apple farm on the Chesapeake Bay. Then 15 months ago, he read statements by National Transportation Safety Board chairman James E. Hall that he felt misrepresented the properties of jet fuel on Trans World Airlines Flight 800 and so he walked away from his trees in the belief that his oath to defend the Constitution required him to do so. Soon he had rigged a crab pot with fuel and a thermometer and kept upping the temperature in an effort to blow it up in his backyard.=20 The aggressive aviator has become the leading proponent of the contention that a large antiaircraft missile brought the plane down on July 17, 1996, and he has created his own investigative committee to prove it.=20 Apart from the cheap plastic model of the plane Mr. Donaldson holds up with a snapping turtle claw glued to the tail to indicate the position of a telltale piece of shrapnel, his presentation seems quasi-official. Indeed, it includes Government photographs and diagrams that have been leaked to him by dissidents inside the investigation and testimony from the former T.W.A. pilot who was engineer on the plane on its last successful flight, and says the Government has misrepresented the amount of fuel he left in the center tank.=20 When Mr. Donaldson had finished in Washington, Vernon L. Grose, a former member of the National Transportation Safety Board under the Reagan Administration, rose in the audience. "I want to say, this is eye-opening to me." During hundreds of press interviews, Mr. Grose has supported the N.T.S.B. position that the plane came apart after an accidental explosion of the center wing tank. But the "validity" of Mr. Donaldson=92s evidence requires that the investigation be reopened.=20 Leaving the hall later, Mr. Grose said it is possible that the N.T.S.B. has been politicized, he saw it happen once before. Therefore he finds plausible Mr. Donaldson=92s assertion that there has been a coverup in the case, which the commander says grew out of the fact that the plane exploded days before the Olympics were to begin in Atlanta and three months before the Presidential election.=20 The most striking evidence in Mr. Donaldson=92s case is the flight data recorder analysis and the eyewitnesses he summons.=20 When the N.T.S.B. released the flight data recorder information late last year in a mountain of papers, it drew a line through the penultimate line, at 8:31 and 12 seconds. Mr. Donaldson read the line, anyway, and called it a smoking cannon in the case. Subsequently, the N.T.S.B. published the data on-line, and=97amazingly=97simply removed this line.=20 Mr. Donaldson makes a hugely compelling point about the black-box data: "We spend millions of dollars on this system, and we do it for one reason, to capture these last lines."=20 So what does the "black box" say? Assisted by a soft-spoken retired T.W.A.= =20 pilot and crash investigator named Howard T. Mann, Mr. Donaldson says that the last lines show that T.W.A. Flight 800 was moving along fine when a massive pressure wave like a locomotive in the sky struck it and virtually flipped it. This is just the sort of wave that is created by a proximity missile, which is designed to fly alongside its target and detonate a warhead whose shock waves whiplash the target.=20 At 8:31 and 12 seconds, the data go crazy. The altimeter reading drops, over one second, from 13,772 feet to 10,127 feet. The plane could not actually have fallen so fast, of course. Mr. Donaldson says that the altimeter is a diaphragm sensitive to air pressure, and thus registered a blast. A center wing tank explosion of the sort the N.T.S.B. has said crippled the flight is, by contrast, a low-pressure event. By Mr. Donaldson=92s calculations, such an explosion would have made the altimeter drop 13 feet.=20 Also according to the data, the plane pitched upward, from 3.6 to 8.3 degrees, switched from an easterly direction to nearly south (82 to 163 degrees), and snap-rolled on its right wing (0 to 144 degrees)=97all within one second. These numbers are indications of a tremendous blast, Mr.=20 Donaldson says 60 G=92s. In an instant, it displaced the typical passenger 17 feet to the right and 12 feet up. He says this conclusion is borne out by statements the Suffolk County medical examiner made to him and a congressional investigator: The cause of death for almost all 230 aboard was snapped necks. (The examiner, Dr. Charles V. Wetli, declined to comment.)=20 The Government has said it threw out the black-box numbers because in a close technical reading, they proved to be junk.=20 "What we=92ve crossed out is information that is not relevant to T.W.A. 800," said Paul Schlamm, an N.T.S.B. spokesman. "Some of it is related to an earlier flight. But the whole thing has to be very carefully synchronized. It requires some very specific skills and experience."=20 But Howard Mann said he possesses that expertise. "If you work on an accident investigation, you don=92t try to make strange things normal," he said. "The first thing you look at is what=92s out of line. I don=92t understand why the N.T.S.B. didn=92t look at those figures and say, We really need to figure out what happened here."=20 Just days before the Washington press conference, Mr. Donaldson drew a missile of his own. Representative James Traficant Jr., Democrat of Ohio, released a report supporting the N.T.S.B. that said, "I am greatly disturbed by the vast number of conspiracy theories that continue to proliferate on the Internet and other media."=20 Aide Paul Marcone, who prepared the report, told me: "I went in as a skeptic. I was trying desperately to punch holes in their [the N.T.S.B.=92s= ] breakup scenario."=20 But after hours with N.T.S.B. investigators, he accepted their explanation that the flight data were inaccurate. In the end for Mr. Marcone (and the same is true of other laymen), it was a matter of faith in someone else=92s technical expertise: the Government=92s. "If these folks were lying, then hundreds of people would have to be involved in a cover-up," he said.=20 Mr. Marcone worked closely with Mr. Donaldson. Now he assails him. He says Mr. Donaldson=92s theory has changed, from one missile to two; that he has damaged his credibility by taking support from Accuracy In Media, a conservative group; and that he is too belligerent, an opinion shared by former N.T.S.B. member Mr. Grose, who called Mr. Donaldson=92s style, which includes regular interpolations of "BS"=97too "inflammatory" for a crash investigator.=20 Mr. Donaldson offers no excuses.=20 "I=92m an attack pilot, that=92s the way I grew up. My first letter to Jim Hall I asked him to resign. I still think he should resign." Did his story change? "Any crash investigator who doesn=92t change his story is a fool because it would mean that he knows what happened at the start. An investigation is a stream of information that eventually gets collated into the most probable scenario." And as for AIM: "That=92s a pretty good mantra for the Washington press corps, isn=92t it. Am I sorry that I hooked up with AIM? The answer is No. [AIM chairman] Reed Irvine is like a bulldog. You couldn=92t ask for better support."=20 I believe Mr. Donaldson over the N.T.S.B. in large part because, as I reported after interviews in Center Moriches, L.I., last year, there were hundreds of eyewitnesses to the crash, yet the Government has simply drawn a line through their views, saying they=92re junk.=20 At the session in Washington, Mr. Donaldson was joined by the chairman of an engineering firm who was sailing his boat on the ocean a few miles from where the plane went down and saw something like "a tracer bullet" rise from the sea. Also there was Fritz Meyer, a former Navy flier in Vietnam who was initially one of the Government=92s star witnesses in the crash. As the pilot of an Air National Guard helicopter, he saw the explosion of T.W.A. 800 from the air and was the first on the scene, tilting his craft so that the rotors would stir the bodies in the sea below and he could determine whether there were any survivors. Mr. Meyer says he flew in combat enough to know what initiated the explosion: a burst of military "ordnance" that turned the plane into a fireball.=20 But the N.T.S.B. hearings on the crash last year specifically excluded these eyewitnesses. When the Government fed the media a C.I.A. animation of the plane=92s breakup, which showed T.W.A. 800 climbing several thousand feet after it was hit=97a climb that was said to explain the reports of something rising like a Roman candle or an alert flare=97no one reported that the agency prepared the cartoon without talking to any eyewitnesses. The witnesses I talked to scoffed at that video.=20 "Personally, it was an insult to me," Richard Goss, a cabinetmaker who was on the beach in Westhampton that night, said at the Army and Navy Club. "It was very disheartening to be shown and told about something that you=92ve seen, and told that you didn=92t see it. And then to have it animated=97"=20 The most thorough reporting of these eyewitnesses has taken place recently in Dan=92s Papers, a weekly giveaway published in Bridgehampton that didn= =92t have enough money to send its reporter to Washington. Witnesses call reporter Jerry Cimisi to thank him for getting the story out.=20 "They say, people treat us like we=92re crazy, so you don=92t want to get involved," Mr. Cimisi said. Who=92s made them feel crazy? Why, the mainstream press, which has bought the Government line without challenge. The main dissenting voices have been The Press-Enterprise (of Riverside, Calif.) and the Village Voice (in a fine cover story of July 15 by Robert Davey).=20 The indifference to charges as serious and well substantiated as Mr.=20 Donaldson=92s is in my view Exhibit A of our corporate press culture.=20 Overeducated peaceniks like me now run the press and the Government, and many of us have the stock options to prove it. The highest credential of this meritocratic elite is the Rhodes Scholarship and meanwhile we have eliminated what had been a requirement of the last order: military service.=20 In the last generation, the military shaped Presidents, Congressmen and writers, too. (Think of Norman Mailer, Philip Roth and Charlie Peters, all Army.) These days, we have an all-volunteer military and the veterans in Congress are dying out. To the meritocracy, the two retired admirals and brigadier general who endorsed Mr. Donaldson=92s report on July 20 are as consequential as scallop fishermen and contractors along the barrier islands who saw a projectile that night. Who cares about them?=20 You don=92t have to remind me what=92s wrong with the military. When I was = a kid, Seymour Hersh visited The Harvard Crimson to tell us about running out his credit cards to nail the My Lai massacre story. What an inspiration he was! But if blunt Bill Donaldson with his oath to the Constitution and his dying orchard brings to mind Cincinnatus walking away from his plow to help his nation, it=92s because years of battle have given him something they don=92t issue in the Ivy League: a bullshit detector.=20 __________ Regards, Allan J. 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In the message body put: unsubscribe cas - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: RAPTUS: FBI Bid for More Snooping Powers (fwd) (fwd) Date: 03 Aug 1998 13:30:21 PST On Aug 3, Rose Bowen wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] CTIA Warns Against FBI Bid for More Snooping Powers By Grant Buckler The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is trying to increase its powers to eavesdrop on telephone conversations by tacking new provisions on to a major appropriations bill about to go before the federal government, the Cellular Telecommunications Industry Association (CTIA) has warned. According to the CTIA, the FBI has presented to several key senators a proposal to attach to the Appropriation Measure for Commerce, State and Justice language that would extend the FBI's rights under the existing Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA). What the FBI is seeking includes a requirement that wireless carriers provide information about the location of mobile telephones, simply on the strength of a lwe enforcement agent's claim that the information could be relevant to the investigation of a felony, CTIA spokesman Tim Ayers told Newsbytes. The FBI also wants to prevent carriers and equipment manufacturers from petitioning the Federal Communications Commiccion (FCC) to rule on whether any FBI demand is reasonable, the CTIA said. Under the CALEA, the FCC can be asked whether a demand made under the act is too costly, would have a negative impact on competition, or would negatively affect subscriber rates. The CTIA claimed that eliminating this recourse would in effect mean the FBI could demand "compliance at any cost." Source: Houston Current Technology, August, 1998, Page 14. Rose Bowen mailto:bowenten@swva.net Nest Family Videos on special for the summer, low prices! The best in animated Bible stories and biographies. http://www.sayhello.com/nest [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Perrine Subject: My My Who would ever have thunk!!!! Date: 03 Aug 1998 18:38:36 -0700 Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 12 Num. 25 ======================================= ("Quid coniuratio est?") WHITE HOUSE TO MUZZLE PRESS =========================== By Sherman H. Skolnick ---------------------- (Office: 773-375-5741; Recorded message: 773-731-1100) Using little-known special teams, the Clinton White House intends to muzzle certain members of the press corps who have put interesting and incriminating details in their reports. Clinton White House senior advisor Rahm Emanuel, a reported top operative of Israeli intelligence, the Mossad, has ostensibly been ordering the following on behalf of supporting Clinton's agenda: 1) An intensive review of the psychological profiles of reporters assigned to the White House. Any so-called "flaw" in their background will be leaked to press outlets friendly to Clinton. Psychologists and psychiatrists are being ordered to violate patient-doctor privilege and to divulge files of past emotional disorders. Some are even offered inducements (financial or career advantage) to exaggerate any such "flaws." 2) Pressed into service, at the behest of Mr. Emanuel and his cronies in foreign and domestic intelligence, are a group of special teams of FBI Division Five, counter-intelligence, in the past accused of "dirty tricks," as well as little-known teams of DISC, Defense Industrial Security Command, once headquartered in Columbus, Ohio and now consolidated near the Redstone Arsenal, Alabama. In foreign press reports, DISC, in the name of nuclear facility security, has engaged in apparent assassinations of dissidents. 3) The U.S. Secret Service has been ordered by Rahm Emanuel and other White House aides to consider lifting and revoking press credential clearances of certain reporters assigned to the White House press corps. 4) The National Security Agency has been ordered by Rahm Emanuel and others to quickly supply summaries of all fax signals and telephone voice communications of certain White House reporters. 5) Rahm Emanuel has ordered the head of the Securities & Exchange Commission and the Commodities Futures Trading Commission to immediately order an audit and review of all stock, bond, commodity, currency, options, futures, and related trading done by any of the White House press corps on the select list. Certain reporters are being investigated on their trading patterns in these markets, as well as the trading patterns of their extended families, including parents, in-laws, and first cousins. This, in view of allegations that certain reporters have been using inside information to profit themselves and/or their extended families. Certain reporters have allegedly called their brokers from the White House. 6) Rahm Emanuel and others have ordered the Comptroller of Currency to immediately require the review of accounts in federally-insured financial institutions of the reporters on the select list. Allegations: certain reporters mis-using banking connections. 7) All communications industry contracts with the federal government, such as military games planning divisions of certain networks (like CBS) are ordered to be reviewed, so as to induce media to order some of their long-time reporters to be re-assigned to less sensitive positions. 8) Contacts of Rahm Emanuel on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange have been persuaded to turn over to the White House details of trading accounts by White House reporters on the select list, as well as their extended families. 9) While some White House reporters contend they have not signed national security oaths, some media contracts reportedly have embedded in various terms of their contracts clauses that can be construed as requiring national security violation avoidance. 10) The elite group of Internal Revenue Service, the Intelligence Division, has been ordered by various present and past White House officials, not limited to Rahm Emanuel, to immediately review the tax returns, or failures to file, of reporters on the select list as well as their extended families all the way to first cousins. The Treasury Department's Office of the Inspector General has been ordered to review allegations of too-close friendship of reporters on the select list with IRS agents, employees, and officials. Allegations: certain reporters side-stepping audits through IRS cronyism; non-disallowance of questionable deductions. 11) Rahm Emanuel and other Clinton officials have ordered the FBI and other intelligence agencies to immediately make their files available showing any subversive past histories of any reporters on the select list as well as any of their extended family all the way to ex-wives, first cousins, and such. 12) Certain portions of all this have already reportedly been offered to Brill's CONTENT Magazine for possible future publication. 13) Local bar associations are being persuaded by the Clinton White House, through acceptable intermediaries (cut-out from Mr. Emanuel), to review the acts and doings of the handful of attorneys specializing in representing media employees in their contracts with networks and affiliates -- for example, the six attorneys in Chicago specializing in such work. 14) Rahm Emanuel and others have ordered a compilation of domestic relations matters from the Clerks of various courts: divorce and legal separation petitions; transcripts of court proceedings that could be used to scandalize reporters on the select list; statements of ex-wives as to child and spouse support misdeeds by ex-husbands; child violation misdeeds by ex-husbands or ex-wives. Also instances of purported sexual perversions as shown by such records; membership in questionable "cults." 15) Media critics, through cut-outs, are being offered some of these details as ammunition to use against reporters on the select list. [1] ---------------------------<< Notes >>--------------------------- [1] Late-breaking from Mr. Skolnick: In an upcoming story, "Psychological Warfare to Block U.S. Constitutional Crisis," Sherman Skolnick is reporting, in part, as follows: On orders of the U.S. Defense Department, FBI Counter-Intelligence Division super-secret psychological warfare units specializing in domestic creations have been to full-active status. Target: to block a looming U.S. Constitutional crisis centered on the Clinton White House through the stirring up of "commotions" and possible race riots. + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + For related stories, visit: http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html Views expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Conspiracy Nation, nor of its Editor in Chief. I encourage distribution of "Conspiracy Nation." New mailing list: leave message in the old hollow tree stump. Want to know more about Whitewater, Oklahoma City bombing, etc? (1) telnet prairienet.org (2) logon as "visitor" (3) go citcom Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt. Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9 Jack Perrine | Athena Programming | 626-798-6574 -----------------| 1175 N Altadena Dr | -------------- Jack@Minerva.Com | Pasadena CA 91107 | FAX-398-8620 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: More on TWA800 Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:04:59 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- For education and discussion. Not for commercial use. Former Naval Officer seeks Hearings The Pittsburgh Tribune - Review August 2nd , 1998 Christopher Ruddy NEW YORK - An uninformed visitor to the hangar housing the Boeing 747 that was once TWA Flight 800 might have no inkling of the mysteries still surrounding the doomed jetliner. More than two years after the crash, the meticulously reassembled aircraft almost looks as if it could take to the skies again. As investigators went about the reconstruction, they also tried to reconstruct what happened to the aircraft just off Long Island on the sultry night of July 17, 1996. TWA Flight 800, after a routine and uneventful climb to some 13,000 feet above the Atlantic, suddenly turned into a hideous fireball of death and disintegration, consuming all 230 aboard. The National Transportation Safety Board report on the crash concluded TWA 800 exploded as a result of a mechanical failure that precipitated an explosion in the jet's center fuel tank. In reaching that conclusion, the NTSB dismissed many eyewitness accounts of some sort of light shooting toward the plane just before the explosion, suggesting a missile, either a hostile or "friendly" one fired by accident. NTSB, along with the FBI, noted that witnesses can honestly confuse what happened in the instant before a momentous event with what they actually saw just after. According to official explanations, eyewitnesses saw nothing more than the explosion of the plane and falling, burning fuel. Many of the government's conclusions about the crash have been dissected and are being challenged by William S. Donaldson III, a former U.S. Navy commander who served as a pilot and military plane crash investigator. On July 17, Donaldson issued a 109-page report on his personal investigation. He submitted the report to the House Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure and its subcommittee on aviation. Donaldson and a media watchdog group, Accuracy in Media headed by Reed Irvine, are calling for congressional hearings on Flight 800. Donaldson's report cites circumstantial, eyewitness and forensic evidence in reaching the conclusion that TWA 800 was "intentionally destroyed by a powerful, proximity-fused, air-bursting anti-aircraft weapon," launched just one mile off the coast of Long Island. Among the key items of evidence Donaldson uses in building his case are parts of two passenger seats. According to the NTSB, the disaster occurred when - due to unknown causes - a fuel-air explosion took place in the center tank, severing the fuselage forward of the wings. Most of the plane, the board concluded, continued on minus the nose for two nautical miles in a generally eastward direction and dropped virtually intact into what investigators later labeled the "green debris field" of the ocean off Long Island. This is the region of debris farthest from JFK International Airport, where the flight had originated some 12 minutes earlier, and where divers located almost all of the wreckage. But early in the recovery, parts of two seats were found in what was designated the "red area" - that part of the search area closest to JFK. These seat parts were clearly identified as having come from the rear of the plane, suggesting some very serious problems with the NTSB's version of how the aircraft disintegrated. "These particular seats were a headache right from the beginning," noted Alan Brock, a New York State Police investigator who helped reassemble the passenger cabin. He told the Village Voice, an alternative weekly in New York City, that when his crew was finishing up their work a year later, "they were still arguing about it." "The discrepancy," explained Brock, was that the seat parts "should have been located in the `green field,' the last one, because they were from the back of the plane, the last five to 10 rows." Faced with this incongruity, NTSB challenged the accuracy of the tagging of the seat parts. But Brock and some of his colleagues stood their ground: "We said this is the way they came in tagged; this is the way we were leaving them." The red tags weren't removed, but a special set of tags was added for a time and then eventually removed. An NTSB document obtained by the Village Voice acknowledged that these seat parts, from rows 46 and 48, were recovered at least one nautical mile closer to JFK than where the main wreckage was found. No explanation has been offered for how, in the NTSB's scenario, these back-of-the-plane parts could have broken off first. Significantly, Donaldson notes that the center fuel tank was one of the last items to fall into the sea, in the area farthest from JFK. Had the fuel tank been the source of the explosion, he argues, it should have been among the debris found closest to JFK airport. Donaldson, who is convinced that a missile exploded outside the plane, also cites some strange readings from the flight data recorder. The recorder indicates a normal flight until 20:31:12 (8:31:12 p.m.), when the airspeed supposedly dropped to 100 knots - a speed at which a 747 would plummet earthward like a rock, according to a TWA spokesman - and the plane dropped more than 3,000 feet. Curiously, a CIA video reconstruction of the disaster shows the plane climbing another 3,000 feet after the explosion. Clearly, says Donaldson, the flight data recorder readings are insupportable considering the subsequent flight path. He contends the false readings are the result of instruments on the outside of the plane being hit by a shock wave from the missile explosion. "Every damn bit of data that comes from that airplane fits with a missile burst," Donaldson told the Village Voice. The eyewitness testimony, he argues, can't be dismissed. "If you have two or three eyewitnesses to murder, you have a very strong case in a court of law," Donaldson wrote in his report. In the TWA 800 case "there are hundreds of eyewitnesses who are convinced they saw a missile shoot down Flight 800 . " Among those witnesses, Donaldson claims, are two off-duty FBI agents who were fishing and saw what they believed was a missile. Neither filed an eyewitness report. Donaldson identifies one of the agents by name. He identifies other witnesses on the ground, at sea and in the air at the time the plane exploded: * Engineer Paul Angelides, Donaldson estimates, was just a mile from the launch point at his Long island home. Angelides said his house shook and he watched a missile move southward toward its impact with TWA 800. * Al Gipe, a former Navy gunnery officer, was sailing some 25 nautical miles off the coast of Long Island when he saw what he thought was an emergency flare go up. * Richard Goss was on the North Shore of Moriches Bay when he saw a missile launch from the sea, level off and then streak southward to an explosive impact. * Air National Guard helicopter pilot Maj. Fred Meyer was some 200 to 300 feet above Long Island's south shore when he saw a light moving in an arc across the sky, ending with a "hard or high-velocity ordnance explosion." TWA 800 was using Jet-A kerosene aviation fuel, a stable fuel that is difficult to explode. No Boeing-built plane using Jet-A fuel has ever had an explosion caused by mechanical failure, Donaldson states. The NTSB concluded some 600 pounds of jet fuel remained in the center fuel tank after the plane's flight from Greece to New York. The NTSB theorizes the tank became superheated while waiting on the runway in New York, vaporizing some of that fuel. Vaporized fuel is much less stable than liquid fuel. But Donaldson argues the fuel was not superheated. Indeed, he tested the temperature inside the center tank of a 747 that had just arrived at JFK from Europe and was scheduled to return. The temperature was 69 degrees, just one degree above ambient temperature. As for the claim that the center tank had 600 pounds of fuel, Donaldson says that's a false assumption. TWA Capt. Albert Mundo, who piloted the plane on its nonstop flight from Athens to New York, claims he had emptied the center tank. These and other points were made by Donaldson at a Washington press conference held last month by Accuracy in Media. Donaldson's report received scant media attention, but his arguments have won some converts. Dr. Vernon Grose, a former board member of NTSB and a frequent television commentator defending the NTSB's ruling on the crash, has changed his mind and has joined with Donaldson in challenging the government ' s conclusions . ========================================================================== This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: Re: Heads Up on Clinton's Troubles (fwd) Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:06:10 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Just to let you know, but ............. The Democratic National Committee is making the rounds, calling radio stations all over the country trying to put together a media blitz for this Thursday with spokespeople talking about the "economy." My station is just a 1000 watter in the Massachusetts boonies and my news director recieved a 'personal call' from Steve Grossman, the Chairman of the DNC, looking to book an AM Drive time appearance. Massachusetts was Clinton's biggest state in the last election (beating Dole 2-1.) When my newsie called back to confirm, he mentioned to a DNC gofer that "you must be in deep shit to be pressing on this bullshit." The gofer replied, "if you only knew" and hung up. Hope springs eternal. Regards, TSB - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Eight Commandments And Counting (fwd) Date: 04 Aug 1998 12:10:34 PST On Aug 4, Exegesis wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Exegesis A Compass For Moral Excellence Published Worldwide From Washington=20 August 4, 1998=20 Eight Commandments And Counting "If they don't have pictures and if we both deny it, they can't prove a thing." Bill Clinton To Gennifer Flowers, taped phone call "I never told anyone to lie. Not a single time. Never." Bill Clinton, Press Conference, January 1998 The Ten Commandments are on sale. Senator Orrin Hatch, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is offering a 20% discount: on Sunday, he said that if the President had lied under oath about his adultery with Monica Lewinsky (and presumably others), he could say he "did it to protect his wife and daughter". And he added: "I think it would be a very smart thing for him to do." Would it indeed? Was the Senator speaking on behalf of the Judiciary Committee, the Republican Party and the Lord Himself? Forgiveness is certainly an important doctrine of the Christian faith, but it is normally preceded by genuine repentance, rather than by presidential blackmail of Mr. Hatch with regard to the latter's involvement in the BCCI scandal. In any case, examples of sincerity and contrition are somewhat sparse in=20 President Clinton's history. Senator Hatch's generous but unscriptural offer to disregard two of the Ten Commandments will not suffice for Bill Clinton. Quite frankly, he hasn't done too well with the other eight. In fact, it's hard to find one he has kept. =20 The public outrage with Bill Clinton is only marginally concerned with his Oval Office frolics. Apparently, 95% of Prosecutor Kenneth Starr's report deals with other matters, as it rightly should. Mr. Starr has been provided an =E1 la carte menu of felonies from which to choose:=20 bank thefts, embezzlements, frauds, cover ups, every imaginable form of political corruption, and the unexplained deaths of 107 of Mr. Clinton's associates and colleagues over the past few years, as well as the routine assassination of reputations in the White House. And thanks to Mr. Clinton's violation of the Eighth Commandment, 'You shall not steal', the indolent are now subsidized by the industrious, the poor remain in poverty rather than being given hope and opportunity to succeed in life, and Western Civilization, once glorious with freedom, democracy and faith, has been reduced to miserable serfdom. Mr. Clinton has now been encouraged by a distinguished senior Republican to elevate the sound bite over sincerity. Senator Hatch's remarks provide further evidence of the elevation of grace without the necessary balance of truth. As we have often remarked, America is drowning in an ocean of grace: it is becoming one of the world's most decadent societies. Orrin Hatch is not in a position to dispense grace without repentance or truth. He has placed himself, and perhaps his Party, in the position of enabler to the most addicted, corrupt President in US history. And by association, he has tainted the Republican Party. =20 He has also provided a useful reminder that, in reality, there is a difference only of emphasis between the two parties. He said he knew nobody "at the top of the system" who wanted to see Mr. Clinton "hurt in this manner". With those words, he states the nub of America's problem and crystallizes the frustration of so many Americans who cannot see beyond the system of serfdom which has been constructed around them: a small, powerful group of business leaders owns the media, three-quarters of the natural resources and oil industry and much else in American industry. And if James Collier's book, Votescam, is accurate, they also rig the voting in elections to ensure the success of candidates most compliant to their desires.=20 Only one person could benefit from Senator Hatch's remarks. It isn't Bill Clinton, even though it may allow him a few more months of attempted fascism. It isn't the putative Republican nominee in 2000, Gov. George W. Bush, and nor is it Vice-President Al Gore, who stands to inherit Mr. Clinton's repulsive mantle. No, it is Howard Phillips, =46ounder of the US Taxpayers Party, an increasingly attractive alternative to those who believe the Scriptures are not subject to amendment, even by the venerable Senator Hatch. In an exclusive interview with Exegesis this week, Mr. Phillips said: "Bill Clinton is still in office solely because the Republicans have refused to do their constitutional duty to impeach him on the grounds of bribery, treason, high crimes and misdemeanors. It isn't just a stained dress: it's stained missiles."=20 In this era devoid of moral absolutes, it hardly helps when conservative politicians who claim to defend biblical values place sycophancy to a corrupt president before the Ten Commandments. What is it about Bill Clinton that causes his staunchest opponents to go wobbly at the knees and swoon in his presence? In Margaret Thatcher's famous words to George Bush, "This is no time to go wobbly." King Solomon put it this way: "There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death." (Proverbs 14: 12). Just because tolerance is good in terms of race relations does not mean it is man's greatest universal aspiration with regard to sin, creed and all else. Our reluctance to seek, find and follow the Way, the Truth and the Life has resulted in a national inability to distinguish good from evil. Consequently no action is deemed unacceptable or wrong. That may be the way of liberalism, but it isn't God's way. =20 America's problems will not end with the departure of Bill and Hillary Clinton, even if their end turns out to be less dramatic than that of their apparent mentors, the Ceaucescus. They have nurtured into being a dreary, post-Christian, politically-correct society which in many cases, understands nothing, believes in nothing and aspires to nothing. They and their media cohorts have so mesmerized a great nation into a state of nothingness that people are willing to believe the exact opposite of what their eyes tell them. The descent began on November 22, 1963, when millions saw President Kennedy shot from the front and fall backwards. Within hours, reporters began to convince them that their eyes had deceived them, that he was actually shot from behind a tree at his rear, with a bullet that had a mind of its own, ricocheting from one person to the next and jumping somersaults like a Russian gymnast. The media-government collusion, born that day of desperation, developed into the axis that now rules America. More recently, Monica Lewinsky's famous dress was handed over to the FBI for testing a few days ago, and the results are not yet known. Yet on January 29, 1998, the CBS Evening News reported: "The FBI testing is complete, and no DNA evidence or stains have been found on Lewinsky's dress." The deception was corroborated by Time Magazine. How do they get away with it? Because you indulge them! America deserves better. The way back to reality will be long and difficult, but this Saturday, on the first American Renewal Day, we plan to make a start. We will not be ashamed of the Ten Commandments or the Gospel. Indeed, they provide America's foundations. 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To unsubscribe please send an email to: requests@talklist.com with UNSUBSCRIBE EXEGESIS in the BODY of the message. or Click here: Letters to the Editor should be addressed to: editor@sm.org For more information about Exegesis, please visit http://www.sm.org/exegesis [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: Re: CAS: Mia Copa (Clinton's Mea Culpa) (fwd) Date: 04 Aug 1998 18:52:14 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Cc: cas@majordomo.pobox.com For education and discussion. Not for commercial use. CLINTON'S MEA CULPA MSNBC http://www.msnbc.com/ August 4, 1998 BY JOHN H. FUND MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR Calm in wake of an apology could be the eye of an even larger storm By John H. Fund MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR Aug. 4 =97 The entire Washington political establishment seems to be pleading with President Clinton to address the American people, admit he misled them for seven months over Monica Lewinsky, and then ask them to put the issue behind them. Bill Clinton is a master communicator, and his career contains many examples of contrition that have been accepted by voters. SENATE JUDICIARY Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch says with such a move the president =93would have a reasonable chance of getting through this.=94 Former Clinton advisor George Stephanopoulos urges the president =93to come forward, clear the decks, and he=92ll be home free.=94 It may not be that easy. Bill Clinton is a master communicator, and his career certainly contains examples of contrition that have been accepted by voters. The problem is that if he admits to lying under oath about a sexual relationship with a 21-year-old White House intern, he may lend credence to those who say he has prevaricated on a host of other issues. If Ken Starr=92s report includes extensive evidence of a decade-long pattern of cover-up and obstruction of justice ranging from Whitewater to Webster Hubbell, voters and members of Congress may be hard-pressed to believe he only engaged in deception when it came to Gennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky. Even if, as Eleanor Clift of Newsweek suggests, he might claim =93he lied for family values=94 to protect his wife and daughter in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit, Jones=92 suit would probably be reinstated and continue to cast a pall over his credibility. Still, Bill Clinton knows the popularity value of repentance. One of the lowest points of his career came in 1980 when his sudden defeat for re-election in Arkansas made him the youngest ex-governor in American history. But Clinton never gave up. =93The very moment I was conceding defeat, my mind was spinning with ideas about what I had to do to stay active and get back,=94 he told David Maraniss of the Washington Post. What he =93had to do=94 included several months of touring the state and apologizing for his unfocused and arrogant style of governing. =93We=92d go somewhere and there=92d be these confessionals in the supermarket aisles,=94 recalled Hillary Clinton. Trucking lobbyist Earl Jones said Clinton arrived at his doorstep to apologize for raising taxes (a tactic he would repeat in 1995) and to ask for a second chance. He was so apologetic that one newspaper cartoonist depicted him as a repentant monk. =93We=92d go somewhere and there=92d be these confessionals in the supermarket aisles.=94 =97 HILLARY CLINTON On Clinton's campaign tactics in Arkansas This roadshow repackaging culminated in February, 1982, with a paid commercial in which he announced he would run again. =93I=92m ready to correct past mistakes,=94 he said as he unveiled his new slogan: =93You can=92t lead without listening.=94 Enough voters forgave him and Clinton went on to serve another decade as Arkansas governor. =93He is probably the most effective politician of his time,=94 says former Clinton communications director Don Baer. =93He would know what the right moment is to do this.=94 Baer told Fox News that the president should make a statement and then say, =93that=92s all, now it=92s time to get back to business.=94 Dee Dee Myers, Clinton=92s former press secretary, thinks he =93will tell the truth=94 but that it =93will require him to change his story in some substantial ways.=94 If he doesn=92t, she said, =93this thing never dies, it will haunt him, dog him and force Congress to take action.=94 Clinton political advisers hope that such a speech, coupled with the White House=92s vaunted spin machine, would lift rather than sink the president=92s ratings. Former Clinton strategist Dick Morris says Clinton=92s personal ratings would go from the mid-40s into the low-60s, and his job approval rating would crack 70 percent. But the calming effect that such a speech might have could prove to be the eye of a hurricane. After the president=92s grand jury testimony on Aug. 17, most observers expect that Ken Starr would deliver a report to Congress sometime in September. Such a report would likely run hundreds of pages and the Monica Lewinsky scandal might take up less than 10 percent of its content, making it difficult to contend that Starr=92s case is solely about sex. If the report piles up example after example of presidential stonewalling and abuse of power, it might be impossible for Congress or the public to dismiss or downplay it. The media may continue to emphasize the salacious, but Judiciary Committee members are likely to focus on the legal facts of Starr=92s case. Partisans on both sides are in a state of Monica fatigue and wish the scandal would be resolved. Even the solicitous Orrin Hatch, who practically begged the president for a mea culpa on =93Meet the Press,=94 was careful to note that public tolerance of presidential perjury would stop if there were credible evidence of abuses of power. Morris, for example, is worried about what presidential aides and allies may have done to intimidate and threaten witnesses =93without Bill Clinton telling them to, but knowing that he would want them to.=94 Morris says the White House=92s pattern of overreaction to scandal allegations is =93Nixonian.=94 The Washington establishment=92s desire to put the tawdry Lewinsky affair behind it with a presidential apologia is understandable. Partisans on both sides are in a state of Monica fatigue and wish the scandal would be resolved. But if the story of a presidential liaison is true and that is all that must be confessed, the unresolved issue is why did the president erected such extraordinary roadblocks to the truth for seven months? =93That=92s a good question,=94 former presidential adviser David Gergen admitted last Sunday on NBC. =93I wish the White House had been more forthcoming.=94 A mere speech is unlikely to settle matters after seven months of stonewalling. Even the most emotive and heartfelt speech by President Clinton may only prove to be emergency surgery that can=92t prevent the slow spread of a cancer on the presidency. John H. Fund is a member of the Wall Street Journal editorial board and a regular contributor to MSNBC. http://www.msnbc.com/ http://www.msnbc.com/news/185314.asp Paul M Watson wrote: > I just heard a local talk radio host read the Mia Copa Wall Street > Journal > article. Has it been posted to cas yet? Its a knock out!!! > Regards, > Paul Watson > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: AdvAM: "Coming Government Shutdown" Ploy Has Been Plotted in Advance (fwd) Date: 05 Aug 1998 10:25:05 PST On Aug 5, Kevin McGehee wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] The ADVANCE AMERICA Network (c) 1998 KEVIN McGEHEE North Pole, Alaska mcgehee@mosquitonet.com http://www.mosquitonet.com/~mcgehee/ Permission granted to anyone wishing to forward, redistribute, or broadcast this article for NON-PROFIT purposes. Profit-making publications must have *express consent* to reprint any AdvAM/AdvAK materials. Thank you. ================================================================ WERE YOU SURPRISED BY DEMOCRATS' CLAIM OF "COMING GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?" I was -- when my federal employee wife told me a couple of weeks ago that the federal employee newsletter had included a warning of just such a possibility. Remember 1995? The federal government shutdown resulting from a showdown over the budget? Remember how the Democrats and the unions (and, naturally, Big Media) placed the blame for the shutdown on the Republican Congress? And remember how it came out afterward that the Democrats and the unions had conspired to bring the shutdown about for political purposes? Odd, isn't it, that the 1998 "coming government shutdown" should be announced first in the federal employees' newsletter, and that it should reach Big Media's radar screen at a Democrat press conference? Odd, that is, when Congress not been pursuing any kind of major budget showdown? Not in the least, given what's been happening of late on the Clinton scandal front. Clearly, the Clintonistas have been expecting the news for their man to get worse and worse as 1998 has progressed. Congressional Democrats have signed on because they want to win back control this November, and they're convinced that their propaganda offensive surrounding the shutdown a few years back helped them in 1996. And they're equally convinced that the American people weren't paying attention when the true origin of that shutdown was made public. Certain traits can be said to run through every strategy the Democrats have used since 1992. First, of course, is a blurring of the distinction between the Office and the Person of the president. This has manifested in any number of ways -- from Roger Clinton's calling Rush Limbaugh a traitor to the country for daring to criticize Bill Clinton, to the attempt to establish a *personal* attorney-client privilege between the Clintons and the White House Counsel's office, right down to Clinton's oft-stated belief that his own political survival is all that stands between our nation and its utter collapse. In effect, because Clinton and his followers do not recognize a distinction between the Office and the Person of the president, they regard the Rule of Law as optional -- and more often an obstacle than a necessity. A second consistent thread running through Democratic strategies since 1992 is the ready use of distortion, manipulation, and deception -- not as a last resort when all other strategies fail (as was previously the case), but as the first and most favored approach. This, too, is an offense of sorts against the Rule of Law, but in a more abstract fashion. The Rule of Law depends on a well-informed people freely making decisions based on the facts as they are known. When they are denied these facts, or are given only those facts (or, more properly, those *assertions* of "fact") that support a partisan position, with any adverse facts dismissed as propaganda formulated by an evil partisan enemy on the other side, the people will make decisions that are not in their own best interest. At first. The people are not sheep. They will trust liars and manipulators only so long before they become enraged and take action. First they will act at the ballot box, and if Clinton's followers were dismayed by the outcome of 1994 they ain't seen nothing yet. Even if they should succeed in bringing about their desired outcome in 1998, they will do so only by digging still more and bigger tunnels beneath the foundations of our nation's institutions. I do not want to see those institutions brought to ruin for the sake of making Clinton's last months in office more comfortable, or come to think of it for any reason. It's time for the Democrats and Big Media to step away from Bill Clinton and allow him to face justice, while those institutions can still be saved. "Coming government shutdown" my maiden Aunt Fannie! -30- August 5, 1998 ================================================================ **Visit the AdvAM/AdvAK archives** http://www.mosquitonet.com/~mcgehee/advance.htm The views expressed herein are entirely those of the author(s), and do not reflect those of any person or group with whom the author(s) may be affiliated, unless explicitly labelled as doing so. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: FW: Vin goes off! (fwd) Date: 05 Aug 1998 10:24:19 PST On Aug 5, Grubb, Ken wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] forwarded from PRN Just passing it along. Nothing for me to add. Ken Grubb Miami, FL > -----Original Message----- > From: john.taylor@sabre.com [SMTP:john.taylor@sabre.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 1998 10:08 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list PRN > Subject: Vin goes off! > > Apropos of several discussion threads on this list, and just because > it's > what I would have said if I could have said it as well as Vin did ... > > John Taylor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vin Suprynowicz (by way of "George L. O'Brien") > Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 1998 12:15 AM > Subject: Re: SLS:Re: Direct Election of Senators > > The following is a response to a piece I posted which "sort-of" > discussed > direct election of Senators. > > George L. O'Brien > > ====================================================== > > Hi, George -- > > Men of good will usually grant the opposition the benefit of the > doubt, > figuring "Gee, this looks suspicious, but I don't want to attribute > bad > motives UNFAIRLY; maybe they just don't understand where this could > lead. > I'll see if I can explain it to them a little more CLEARLY ..." > > Of course, this is not a fair contest. The forces of darkness take > advantage of every "benefit of the doubt." They go, "Oh, really? You > think > it could lead to THAT? But no one ELSE seems to feel that way ..." > engaging > us in a diversionary debate while their bully-buddies kneel down > behind us > so we can be pushed over that much more easily. > > Even when the forces of evil LOSE, they rarely lose very decisively. > They > just cry "Uncle, uncle. OK, we didn't mean it, we're sorry; Do over." > And > the good guys, once AGAIN, figure, "Well, OK, we don't want to be > bitter > and unkind, maybe they mean it this time, maybe they've finally > understood > the moral superiority of letting each man prosper in measure with his > own > efforts. Let's teach them how to play baseball and help them re-build > their > industrial base ..." > > Witness the insistence of our press corps on referring to the current > rulers of Moscow as "FORMER Communists." Oh? Have they performed the > most > rudimentary detailed enunciation of their crimes, allowed themselves > to be > whipped barebacked in public by the widows of the men they murdered, > proclaimed in public that collectivism is evil, renounced forever the > power > and mechanisms of taxation and the redistribution of wealth? Done > their > best to locate the heirs of those whose property was confiscated from > 1917-1922, and restored what they can? Was I asleep when all this > happened? > > We don't usually refer to "former murderers." They may be "paroled > murderers," or even "reformed murderers," but never FORMER murderers. > > I fear the tables will never be turned, until the forces of statism, > collectivism, socialism, and looting in general face a generation-long > purge, pretty much on the order of what happened to the French > aristocracy > in the years 1789-1795. > > They do not BELIEVE that anyone could possibly mean to say: "If you > persist > in taxing people against their will under threat of seizure, eviction, > and > jail; if you insist on ruining people's lives for merely exercising > their > Second Amendment rights to non-violently own machine guns without > licenses, > or their Ninth Amendment right to buy and consume cocaine and > marijuana > without interference, after the date of May 30, 1999, then on and > after > that date ... someday, and you will never know when, because we'll > wait > until it suits OUR convenience, but on ANY date after that date which > pleases us ... wherever we catch one of you, or one of your "innocent" > surviving children (whelped and fed with funds looted from the > innocent, > and therefore forfeit), you and your progeny will be killed, on sight, > after a trial for purposes of confirming your identity, forever, until > this > genetic defect you exhibit is finally wiped clean from the species." > > This problem will not be solved until EVERY member of the public, upon > hearing a fellow citizen utter the phrase, "There out to be a law," or > "Why > can't we just enact a tax to fund it," freeze in their tracks, unsnap > their > holsters, slowly turn on the culprit, and politely asks, "I must have > misunderstood; would you say that again?" > > Until they learn to fear prescriptions along this line, this gang will > ALWAYS figure, "Well, let's give it a try. Maybe the idiot cattle will > let > us get away with implanting ID chips in their earlobes if we assure > them it > will reduce their waiting time at the airport. And if that doesn't > work, > we'll just try again next year, drafting a bill that absolutely > guarantees > them NO ONE may ever MISUSE the data gathered from their earlobe > implants. > We'll call it the "Bovine privacy bill of rights." With any luck, we > can > run it through during Super Bowl Week, and no one will thiknk to ask, > 'Wait > a minute; WHAT earlobe implants?' ..." > > Because they can lose nine times, and only win the 10th time, and they > STILL win. There is absolutely NO downside for them, for trying to > whittle > away one more of our liberties, again, and again, and again ... > > But you know what? We have no trouble at all with people espousing the > taxation philosophy of the ancient rulers of Baluchistan. Because when > Genghis Khan had passed over Baluchistan and moved on, their cities no > longer stood, their rivers no longer flowed in their ancient beds, > their > surviving women were dragged along at the ends of leather tethers > (pregnant > with Mongol babies, or they wouldn't even be alive), and the few > castrated > Baluchi clerks who the great khan decided might be of some use to him, > could never even tell the name of the city from which they hailed, > because > their tongues had been left behind in the dust, as well. > > If you only play defense, you only delay defeat. The equation is > incomplete. It's fine to disavow the initiation of force. I do. But to > EVER > have a chance of victory, the credo must be "We forever foreswear the > initiation of force. However, if force is initiated against us, again > and > again, so recurrently and in so many infinite varieties that we can > see no > other way to protect ourselves, our families, and most of all our > liberties, then we vow to ..." > > To what? > > The opposition is not going to worry much, if we vow to resist by > pointing > out how bad they are -- in the most elegant of footnoted, academic > arguments -- until they get around to taking away our microphones and > our > pencils, at which point we plan to hold our breaths until we turn > blue. > > -- V.S. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: UN Gun Grab in Albania. (fwd) (fwd) Date: 05 Aug 1998 11:11:57 PST On Aug 5, Tom Walls wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >From American Opinion, that fine organ of anti-world government journalism. Tom Walls Int'l Firearms Directory http://www.afn.org/~afn18566 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- UN Gun Grab in Albania. "At the request of the Albanian Government," reported New York Times UN correspondent Barbara Crossette on July 14th, "the United Nations has agreed for the first time to help disarm a civilian population that has amassed hundreds of thousands of weapons and a vast supply of ammunition...." Jayan-tha Dhanapala, Under Secretary-General for Disarmament Affairs, went to Albania in June to consult with authorities about disposing of caches of arms, including pistols, rifles, machine guns, and grenade launchers. Discussions focused on ways to "persuade people to relinquish their weapons, which would then be destroyed." "The weapons are largely in civilian hands," stated Dhanapala. "Many people are unemployed, and sought the weapons as a means of some kind of wealth which they could trade for money or goods at some later stage. In the rural areas you had some of them burying them underground or keeping them in trees." The pretext for the UN gun grab is the fact that some Albanians have been smuggling stolen weapons to ethnic Albanian guerrillas in Serbia's Kosovo Province. However, conceded Dhanapala, "We were told that the amount of guns that fell into criminal hands is about 10 percent. So most are in civilian hands." This comports well with the "logic" of gun control in the United States: Rather than punishing specific criminals, the objective is to disarm everyone, including the law-abiding. Rather than employ a gun buy-back scheme, "United Nations officials are proposing a 'development for guns project,' in which communities that turned in weapons would get public works projects that also provided needed jobs." This would result in a two-pronged victory for the UN: It would advance long-standing civilian disarmament schemes while helping to entrench socialism. "Mr. Dhanapala said that the United Nations hopes to start a pilot project in Gramshi, a district with a population of about 50,000," continued the Times. "In return for turning in weapons, the district has asked for about 120 miles of rural roads, a small processing plant for agricultural products, and a training center to teach furniture making." The 1958 treatise Worm Peace Through World Law, by Grenville Clark and Louis B. Sohn, which expresses the UN's objective of creating a "world police force" possessing "a coercive force of overwhelming power," warned would-be global rulers that "even with the complete elimination of all [national] military forces," local police forces, "supplemented by civilians armed with sporting rifles and fowling pieces, might conceivably constitute a serious threat to a neighboring country." By disarming civilians in Albania in a supposed effort to prevent the destabilization of Kosovo, the UN is following the Clark/Sohn formula perfectly -- as a step toward the ultimate disarmament of everybody but the UN's "planetary police." Copyright 1998, American Opinion Publishing, Incorporated P.O. Box 8040, Appleton, WI 54913 Homepage: http://www.jbs.org/tna.htm Subscriptions: $39.00/year (26 issues) -1-800-727-TRUE Released for informational purposes to allow individual file transfer, Usenet, and non-commercial mail-list posting only. All other copyright privileges reserved. ---------[ advertisement ]----------- (a 50 GBP donation to NPAFF or JFS buys this space for 1 week) BOYCOTT JAPAN - SUPPORT NPA/JFS EUROPEAN LEGAL ACTION Japan is promoting victim-disarmament, violating human rights world-wide. Boycott Japanese goods and send money to: Justice for Shooters, PO Box 705, Bourne End, Bucks, SL8 5FS. http://home.rednet.co.uk/homepages/markg/index.html NPA Fighting Fund, BM Box 1456, London WC1N 3XX. ----------[cybershooters subscription info]---------- http://www.tsra.demon.co.uk/csfaq.htm [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jack Perrine Subject: From Ralph.....JDL forms its own militia group Date: 05 Aug 1998 14:04:33 -0700 www.pokerface.com & www.klang.com <-GREAT MUSIC TODAY's COMMUNIQUE By Authority of Ephesians 5:11, Mark 12:38 ------------------ JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE [JDL] FORMS ARMED MILITIA GROUP http://204.107.208.2/~ralph/double.html NOTE: I FULLY support EVERYONE's right to keep and bear arms without INFRINGEMENT of any kind, BUT while we are at it, we should GUARANTEE EVERYONE's RIGHT to the same !!! Anything else is NOT equal protection of the law, but is "JUST US" instead of JUSTICE !!!! And what is up with those "certificates" Sounds like another special talmudic disspensation like the Sheinbaum and Rubinowitz shuffle, where gentile/goy courts dont apply yadda yadda. excerpt from: SPOTLIGHT EMAIL NEWSLETTER #9 JEWISH DEFENSE LEAGUE [JDL] FORMS ARMED MILITIA GROUP Someone call Sarah Brady: The hills are alive with the sound of gunfire. EXCLUSIVE TO THE SPOTLIGHT By Mike Blair If you happen to be vacationing in the Catskill Mountains of upper New York state or the mountains of neighboring Connecticut this summer and hear the rattle of heavy gunfire nearby, it is not the U.S. military in training or some "right wing" militia group on maneuvers. Most likely you will be hearing a training session of members of the terrorist Jewish Defense League (JDL) or its spin-off, the Jewish Defense organization (JDO). And, those shooters might not be able to speak English very well. You could, in fact, be confronted by a youthful member of the JDL or JDO who is more than likely a recent immigrant from Russia, living in the United States as a supposed refugee. It is more than likely he will be from the Brighton Beach section of New York City, an underworld haven for Jewish Russian refugees comprising what has become known as the "Russian Mafia." The FBI says the outlaw organization stretches all the way to Moscow and is involved in virtually every sort of crime, from smuggling (even nuclear materials) to contract murders. TRAIN IN MOUNTAINS In upstate New York, the JDL and JDO have been training for several years in the Catskill Mountains of Sullivan County, a short drive northwest of New York City, not far from the Pennsylvania border. Of course the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), which has been screeching for years about the dangers to America presented by U.S. militia groups, doesn't have much to say about the JDL and JDO "troopers," who have been terrorizing residents of the Sullivan County area, particularly around the small resort village of Livingston Manor. Nor will you find the JDL or the JDO listed as terrorist organizations in U.S. government reports on worldwide and domestic terrorist activity. In fact, Irving Shapiro, vice chairman of the ADL's national volunteer commission, doesn't consider them dangerous at all, certainly not like U.S. civilian militias. "They believe they have a mission and a purpose to protect Jews," Shapiro recently told the Middletown, New York, Sunday Record, which ran a front-page feature story about the young trainees, titled "For Jewish Militants, Catskills are a Training Ground." Nothing has been heard at all from Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the New York Democrat who is one of the leading anti-gun advocates in the U.S. Senate and who can frequently be heard squawking about "crazies" with "assault rifles" scampering about his beloved, and neighboring, Delaware County, where he has a home in rural Pindars Corners. (In fact, when called by this SPOTLIGHT reporter, the senator's staff did not want to even divulge the location of his nearby home. Could he, too, be fearful of the militants?) Even Capitol Hill's loudest opponent of the Second Amendment ("the right to keep and bear arms"), Rep. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), current candidate for the Senate from New York and known to be a frequent visitor to the resorts of the Catskill Mountains, has been deafeningly silent about the mountain militants. The New York State Police are closely monitoring the activities of the groups, which rent, from apparently sympathetic fellow Jews, camps in the Catskills of Sullivan County. "NICE" PEOPLE One such camp owner, Arthur Rosenzweig, who owns Camp Hilldale, in the village of Monticello, and lives on the camp grounds, told the Sunday Record, "They came to me and told me they do a lot of self-defense work and they called themselves Friends of Israel. Nobody could get in here to see me without an escorted guard," Rosenzweig said. "But these people were very nice, they never hurt anybody." But how nice are they really? They spent five weeks at the camp and were closely monitored by the state police. Sullivan County Sheriff Daniel Hogue, acting on the complaints of neighbors, visited eight times but was refused admittance. Nevertheless, no FBI and BATF sieges here, not even a peep of protest from the ADL or its fellow travelers at the Southern Poverty Law Center, led by Morris Dees. There was not a single report about the training activities on national television, not even after 18 were arrested last summer by state police for felony gun possession, of which four, believed to be the group's ring leaders, pleaded guilty last spring. SLAP ON WRIST No years in a federal prison for these militiamen, just five years probation meted out by Sullivan County Judge Burton Ledina, who also gave them Certificates of Relief from Disability. In New York state, the certificates prevent, among other things, employers from denying them a job due to conviction on a felony charge. "We objected to the certificates the day of the sentencing," Sullivan County Assistant D.A. James Farrell said. "Most people, even if they get these certificates, don't get them until after probation is served at least halfway through." D.A. Stephen Lungen said he was unaware of a case where certificates were issued by a judge upon sentencing "on such serious charges." Judge Ledina had no comment. Incredibly, his original decision specifically allowed the felons to even possess rifles and shotguns. Farrell, however, went back to court and argued against that provision allowed them by Ledina and it was dropped. And where was the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) during all of this? Apparently, nowhere to be found. Nevertheless, state police confiscated more than a dozen illegally-possessed revolvers and semi-automatic, large capacity-magazine pistols and thousands of rounds of ammunition. FEARED REPRISALS "Some residents of Elm Hollow Road in Livingston Manor, where last summer's arrests took place, live in fear of the JDL," the Sunday Record reported under its "Militants in the Mountains" sub-headline in the three-page feature story. "They insisted on speaking anonymously, saying they feared reprisals if they were identified." Colleen Dobbs, whose home is down the road from the Rosenzweig camp, was not reluctant to talk. "I had a big problem with them," she said. "Every time I drove by, someone would stand outside and write down my license plate. This was very uncomfortable . . . " And when her children were out playing . . . "all of a sudden out of the bushes, came men from the camp, crawling on their knees with rifles." This summer, according to the newspaper account, the "Militants in the Mountains" were reported to be extending their training activities into remote areas of neighboring Connecticut. ******************************************************************* THE NEW ETHNIC MOBS- THE CHANGING FACE OF ORGANIZED CRIME IN AMERICA Mafia legends like John Gotti are mostly behind bars. But waiting in the wings are even more vicious Chinese, Vietnamese, Jewish, Hispanic, Jamaican, and Black mobs whose lust for money has resulted in bloodletting of untold proportions. See how the activities of these mobs pillage the coffers of law-abiding citizens like you! 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It now develops that the Justice Department is conducting an internal investigation into whether it also turned a blind eye to serious allegations against Democratic Senator Carol Moseley-Braun of Illinois, a key Clinton ally. Last month, WBBM-TV in Chicago cited confidential IRS documents which reported that the Justice Department in 1995 twice blocked an IRS criminal probe of Senator Moseley-Braun's alleged misuse of campaign funds in her 1992 election. IRS officials have collected evidence that Senator Moseley-Braun and Kgosie Matthews, her former campaign manager and ex-fiance, may have used more than $280,000 in campaign contributions to purchase vacations and various items for personal use. A Justice Department spokesman confirms Justice twice declined a routine IRS request to impanel a grand jury, saying "we did not believe there was enough credible information" to open an inquiry. IRS field agents clearly thought there was something to look at. According to WBBM, they found evidence that Ms. Moseley-Braun and her then campaign manager/fiance spent lavishly on items of a clearly personal nature, such as $64,000 for travel to Hawaii, Europe and Nigeria, $70,000 on designer clothes and $18,000 on jewelry. Because the IRS lacks subpoena power, it frequently asks the Justice Department to impanel a grand jury to gain access to evidence. In the Moseley-Braun case, the IRS informed Justice it had been stymied in collecting documents and interviewing key witnesses through its normal summons process. It told Justice it also had evidence relating to allegations of bank fraud and bribery during Ms. Moseley-Braun's tenure as Cook County recorder of deeds. Roll Call, the Capitol Hill newspaper, reports that Justice didn't open a grand jury probe and didn't respond to the IRS's request that it investigate those allegations. It instead told the IRS to ask the Federal Election Commission to provide some of the documents the tax agency needed. The FEC was itself conducting an audit of Ms. Moseley-Braun's 1992 Senate campaign. It cooperated in part with the IRS's requests, but also cited grounds of confidentiality in refusing to release some key information without a subpoena. The IRS then went back to Justice in fall 1995 and asked a second time for a grand jury that would grant it subpoena power. That request was also refused. Both decisions not to investigate were made by Assistant Attorney General Loretta Argrett, a former Howard University law professor, who also consulted with Justice's Public Integrity section. Ms. Argrett was appointed by President Clinton in 1993. Justice's refusals to impanel a grand jury are setting off alarms in the tax law community. Eight former officials of Justice's tax division and the IRS interviewed by Roll Call said such a refusal is highly unusual. "It's virtually unheard of," says John Bray, formerly of Justice's criminal tax division. And indeed last week Justice's internal affairs unit opened an investigation into how the decision was reached. Senator Moseley-Braun signed a privacy release last month that authorized Justice to confirm she isn't under investigation. But she has refused requests that she broaden her privacy waiver to allow access to Justice and IRS files on her case. One reason may be that what's on the record is embarrassing enough. The FEC files denied to the IRS were released to Roll Call through a Freedom of Information Act request. While FEC auditors didn't recommend further action or fines against Senator Moseley-Braun, they did find some curious practices. During a 1992 fundraising trip to Aspen, Ms. Moseley-Braun and Mr. Matthews paid close to $10,000 in cash for gold rings, cuff links and a money clip at a local jewelry store. At the time, Ms. Braun was earning $45,000 a year as an elected county official. FEC auditors also found that Mr. Matthews had charged several thousand dollars in personal expenses to the Braun campaign, but this information was never given to the IRS or to FEC commissioners before they voted to end their investigation of Senator Moseley-Braun last year. The FEC said it lacked the time and resources to finish. Senator Moseley-Braun is up for reelection this November, and of course the Democrats don't want to lose her seat. In a better world, the Clinton Justice Department wouldn't exist under such a cloud of doubt about its ability to function as a neutral arbiter of the laws it enforces. In the event, the Senator's activities in the shadows of the campaign laws have been widely reported by Chicago's newspapers and electronic media, and of course Roll Call has covered the story for her Washington colleagues. We'll find out soon enough whether the voters of Illinois are as uninterested in such behavior as the Public Integrity section of the Justice Department. ========================================================================== This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Gun Control Poll re: Clinton's Remarks Yesterday (fwd) Date: 07 Aug 1998 11:15:47 PST On Aug 7, globallaw@tidalwave.net wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Melinda Gierisch wrote: > > http://www.openpoll.com//cgi/openpoll.pl?qotd 08/07/98 President Clinton on Thursday urged lawmakers to resist "the gun lobby and its allies" in Congress and vote to extend the waiting period for handgun purchases even after instant background checks become law. Do you agree with President Clinton? Definitely Yes Probably Yes Not Sure Probably Not Definitely Not [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boyd Subject: Re: Gun Control Poll re: Clinton's Remarks Yesterday (fwd) Date: 07 Aug 1998 12:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Those that haven't seen the openpoll post yet, please see Bills message below. The results as of 12:45 PST: Definitely Yes: 3% Probably Yes: 0% Not Sure: 0% Probably Not: 0% Definitely Not: 97% If you have trouble with the previous URL, try: http://www.openpoll.com//cgi/openpoll.pl Seems like their cgi tracks a cookie or something. -Boyd Kneeland, CLAW >Date: Fri, 7 Aug 98 11:15:47 PST >Organization: (N.) To be organized. But that's not important right now..... >From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) >To: roc%xmission.com@lists.xmission.com >Subject: Re: Gun Control Poll re: Clinton's Remarks Yesterday (fwd) >Sender: owner-roc@lists.xmission.com >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: roc@lists.xmission.com > >On Aug 7, globallaw@tidalwave.net wrote: > >[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > >Melinda Gierisch wrote: >> >> http://www.openpoll.com//cgi/openpoll.pl?qotd > > 08/07/98 > President Clinton on Thursday urged lawmakers to > resist "the gun lobby and its allies" in Congress > and vote to extend the waiting period for handgun > purchases even after instant background checks > become law. Do you agree with President Clinton? > > Definitely Yes > Probably Yes > Not Sure > Probably Not > Definitely Not > >[------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] > >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- >An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no >weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his >hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a >on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > >- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: CLINTON SOLD OUR SECURITY (fwd) Date: 07 Aug 1998 14:51:01 PST Heads Up: A Weekly View from the Foothills of Appalachia May 3, 1998 #83 by: Doug Fiedor CLINTON SOLD OUR SECURITY Prestidigitation, it's called. That's the crafty art of creating a diversion, such as to divert attention during a "magic" trick. We're seeing another form now, in Washington and the media, orchestrated primarily by Hillary's disinformation cabal in the White House. The diversion is sex, as in Jones, Wiley, Lewinsky, etc., etc. These stories are continued because, in the grand scheme of things, they are nearly inconsequential. Whereas, the misdeeds not being discussed while we talk of the sexual peccadilloes of the philander-in-chief could have a very costly and long-term affect on the people of the United States. Also, the sex scandals will not be impeachable offenses, whereas what they are diverting attention from most certainly are. Just a few months ago, the hot story was how communist China was able to launder money into the Clinton & Gore and DNC campaign coffers. When one reads the transcripts of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee (http://www.senate.gov/~gov_affairs/), or the House Government Reform Committee (http://www.house.gov/reform/hearings.htm), it quickly becomes evident how extensive that illegal money laundering was. Even though the whole of that story is not complete (i.e. conclusively proven), there is more than enough information available to indict dozens of people involved in the Clinton & Gore Campaign Committee and the DNC conspiracy. Yet, interestingly enough, that is one of the very few impeachable acts that does not have a special prosecutor investigating. Instead, the Reno Justice Department is supposedly looking into it. Somewhat. The actual problem is much more important than just the few million dollars the communist Chinese "contributed" to Clinton and others for considerations. The true problem goes to the security of the people of the United States. The subject being diverted is the considerations the Red Chinese received for that money -- and those considerations were considerable. As Timothy W. Maier reported in the May 4 issue of Insight magazine: "Two U.S. firms are accused of illegally helping the Chinese develop ICBMs that can hit the United States." A Pentagon report said Hughes Electronics and Loral Space and Communications caused "national security harm" by selling sophisticated electronic technology to China. Both companies were investigated, of course. But just as charges were ready to be filed, Clinton approved the sale of similar equipment to China by Loral. Interestingly enough, Loral's CEO, Bernard Schwartz, just happens to be the largest personal contributor to the DNC last year. Reports vary, but it seems that he has contributed between two and three million dollars over the past few years. In other words, Clinton & Gore and the DNC were collecting from both the domestic high-tech equipment sellers and the foreign high-tech equipment purchasers. That's a rather convenient arrangement. The problem is that this is top-secret military equipment that was sold to the communists. We taxpaying Americans cannot see this equipment, but the communists in China now own some of it. Apparently, the Chinese also had a ace in the hole at Loral. A Corporate Vice President, Dr. Wah Lim, is a foreign national from China. In itself, that wouldn't be a big deal. Lim did part of his studies here, and it's only natural for him to wish to work in his chosen field of electronics. But, top secret military electronics? Wah Lim's father, by the way, just happens to be a high ranking government banker in China. That could be very handy for Loral, who wishes to sell expensive equipment there. But that certainly does not speak well for those in the federal government charged with protecting our high-tech military secrets. They issued Lim a top secret clearance. With that kind of leak, the Chinese could be using the newest and best of our electronic equipment even before our military has a chance to try it. We were told by a well placed source in the industry that, "Dr. Lim was considered enough of a security risk when he was an employee of Northrop Corporation that he was denied a clearance to work on the B-2 bomber. Because that risk assessment has not changed significantly since then, it seems that it is not proper for Dr. Lim to be handling other of our country's top military data." Furthermore, "Dr. Lim was known to improperly access military data when he worked as a lower level employee of Loral Corporation, even entering another employee's secured safe to remove secret documents without that employee's knowledge or approval." As it turned out, even though there was plenty of work, the American employee reporting that serious breach of security at Loral was laid off shortly thereafter. Dr. Lim stayed. The sorry fact is that, by continually replaying the soap-opera of Clinton sex scandals, the national media totally missed an illegal transfer of technology that could someday get thousands of American citizens blown right off the face of the earth. But, Clinton needed the money to get elected, so apparently the China connection is not a newsworthy story for the liberal media. TIME FOR CLINTON TO PAY THE PIPER Last week it was Rep. Dan Burton, Chairman of the House Committee on Government Reform and Oversight, telling the editorial board of The Indianapolis Star: "If I could prove 10 percent of what I believe happened, he'd [Clinton] be gone. This guy's a scumbag. That's why I'm after him." This week, the whole Republican leadership of the United States House of Representatives picked up the gauntlet. They've apparently thrown the implied threats of secret police investigations and potential blackmail by Hillary's disinformation cabal to the wind and decided to do the right thing. Showing a surprising amount of intestinal fortitude for an election year, they are gearing up to expose the ongoing corruption in the Clinton, Clinton & Gore team and the DNC for all of America to see. Then, they plan to take appropriate action. Of course, a couple of them have already had a glimpse at some of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr's evidence, and the House has reams of information concerning money laundering by and for the Clinton campaign committee and the DNC. The millions of dollars in illegal campaign funds came, of course, from both American labor unions and communist China. Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich lead off the accusations with comments to the GOPAC political action group early in the week (http://www.gopac.com/library/newt98.htm). Therein, Gingrich described Kenneth Starr as an "officer of the Department of Justice" and said criticism of the independent counsel has gone overboard: The fact is that if he [Clinton] wants to fire Ken Starr, he can do it in the morning. And if he doesn't want to fire Ken Starr, he should tell his staff to shut up because there is something profoundly demeaning and destructive to have the White House systematically undermine an officer of the Department of Justice. And when I watch these paid hacks on television, to be quite honest, I am sickened by how unpatriotically they undermine the Constitution of the United States on behalf of their client. Right on! Finally Newt's taking a stand. Burton was right. The term "scumbag" fits them nicely. Newt continues: What you have lived through for two and a half long years, is the most systematic, deliberate, obstruction of justice cover up in an effort to avoid the truth we have ever seen in American history. And the time has come to say to the Democrats and to say to the President quit undermining the law in the United States. Turn over the evidence, agree to the witnesses, have the hearings. The American people have the right to know the truth. Gingrich also commented on the controversy over whether Secret Service agents should act like police officers and testify against the president: "I don't get it," Newt said. "This is not some 'shall we gossip about the president.' . . . This is about the rule of law. This is about the heart of America. No person in America is above the rule of law." Then, in a speech before the Atlanta Rotary Club, Gingrich continued the thought: There is no question there are very, very serious allegations, starting with $700,000 being paid to Hubbell, who is a convicted felon. I think any honest American can conclude [that giving] $700,000 to a convicted felon is hush money. That is a very, very serious violation. Later in the week, The Speaker took to the House floor and, in a similar speech, accused the Democrats who voted against immunity for four witnesses in the campaign-finance investigation as obstructing justice. He then demanded another vote. When the people breaking the law are foreign nationals trying to corrupt the United States by bringing in foreign money -- in some cases in a deliberate effort in collusion with billionaires in Asia -- we have every reason as a national security matter to protect our political system," Newt told the House. "For some reason, Democrats voted 19-0 to cover up this testimony. That means they voted 19-0 to block it from getting to the American people and to prevent the Congress from being informed. "If [President Clinton] doesn't want to fire Ken Starr, he should tell his staff to shut up," Gingrich continued. "I am sickened by how unpatriotically they undermine the Constitution of the United States." Newt said there were two principles which I am prepared to live and die on. The first is that the American people have the right to know about basic facts. And the second is that we are a nation under the rule of law and no person, including the president, is above the law. . . . I will never again, as long as I am speaker, make a speech without commenting on this topic. And then, in typical Newt Gingrich style, came a pointed history lesson: "Howard Baker understood that Richard Nixon could not be allowed to take the entire Republican Party and the Constitution down in flames and that his job as a United States senator was to get at the truth, and Howard Baker again and again and again cooperated with the Democrat Chairman Sam Ervin," Gingrich said. He added that Democrats "ought to be ashamed" at their actions and "ought to be helping us get at the truth rather than finding some flimsy excuse to avoid voting for immunity." Look for the Republicans to be out in force talking about this corruption. Because maybe, just maybe, we are about to see some action. Starr cleared most of his calendar, possibly for a year or more, and is actively shuttling between the grand juries in Little Rock and Washington. Better yet, he's got a big smile on his face lately. Last week, after questioning Hillary again, Starr was thanked, congratulated and applauded at the Little Rock airport. We think it's time he got a little recognition. Starr deserves retribution too. As two House committees investigate the campaign corruption of the Clinton, Clinton & Gore conspiracy, and Starr increases pressure by threatening indictments on assorted other topics, middle America sits back and watches history in the making. Not yet admitted by a definitely biased national media is the fact that this may be the first time in our nation's history that the whole of the administration is dismissed (and maybe convicted) simultaneously. And that is as it should be. They are all party to the corrupt practices and obstruction conspiracies together, and they should all fall together. Nail Clinton, Clinton & Gore at the same time. That done, we would be pleased to present President Newt with a copy of his speeches on the Federalist Papers and the Original Intent of the authors of our Constitution -- just as a reminder. THE UN USURPS OUR FREEDOM As we reported earlier, Bill Clinton, encouraged by his power hungry Marxist wife, wants much more than to be just a world leader. Clinton wants to be "the" world leader. Nearly everything they do nowadays (besides ducking impeachment), is in preparation for that goal. For instance, Hillary's choice for Secretary of State, Madeline Albright was out attacking UN critics recently. We should note here that in her previous position as a professor, Albright was called by those who knew her on campus as "Professor Halfbright." Some of her recent actions are starting to make a lot of people wonder if there might have been a reason for that nickname. Lately, the State Department has allowed an alarming amount of United Nations equipment to be stored in the United States. UN military equipment has been spotted stockpiled in various locations around our country. Why? There's also the problem of all those UN Heritage Sites, biosphere reserves and now wilderness zones. Does anyone actually believe that a UN bureaucrat from some little third world country would better care for our national treasures than we would? Worst yet, the UN recently agreed to offer members of some environmental extremist groups diplomatic passports so they will be immune from the law when operating within the United States. Secretary-General Kofi Annan was given permission to wander around the U.S. as he pleases. He was in Hollywood recently, encouraging some left-leaning celebrities to lend a hand with the dissemination of UN propaganda. As starters, Annan wants that $1.2-billion in back "dues" he says we owe. The Clinton administration is, of course, applying pressure on Congress to pay at least part of that amount. As part of a world governance program, over 72 nations recently signed agreements to provide the UN a full sized military force. The administration approves of this action and has secretly contributed millions of taxpayer dollars to help get a UN army started. The State Department will not release exactly how much money we contributed, but it was in the hundreds of millions. Then, of course, there's the matter of gun control. For the first time in history, the United States has agreed to the UN plan of gun control. And, as is obvious at home, Clinton has continuously been doing his best to disarm the American people. Now comes the UN Court system. Next June, the United Nations is meeting in Rome to draft a treaty which would establish an International Criminal Court (ICC). Such a court could subject American citizens to the jurisdiction of foreign judges, who would have zero respect for our Constitution. As can be expected, the Clinton Administration supports the ICC. So does the U.S. Senate, which voted 55 to 45 to encourage the establishment of an ICC within the UN system. Even the American Bar Association has endorsed the concept of the ICC. But that's no real surprise, since the ABA characteristically does nothing to defend our Constitution anyway. The ICC would be a plaything for them. A new court system would allow lawyers to make up the rules as they go along. However, for the unsuspecting American citizen, such an international criminal court would be a disaster. One important difference is that there will be no right for the accused to confront witnesses, as stipulated in our Sixth Amendment. The UN court will adopt a provision known as Rule 75, which allows witnesses to remain anonymous, even to defendants and their lawyers. And, as in American administrative law courts, a defendant will be classed as guilty until proven innocent. The United States does not have a very good track record in these world courts, which makes it very difficult to understand how any person respecting our Rule of Law could agree to such wickedness. For example, we lost a series of key cases before the international agency governing commerce and tariffs. Really, these and dozens of other actions by the Clinton Administration point to only one thing: Clinton is systematically weakening the United States so it will be easier to control when he is secretary-general of the United Nations. Truly, to protect our American way of life, we must get the UN out of the United States and the United States out of the UN. UNENFORCED RIGHTS We learned a little more of how the law applies to the controlling elite this week. It seems that if someone is involved in a crime and explains it to their spouse, they may then claim 'marital privilege' when questioned about that crime and so will not need to answer questions about it for a grand jury. Thank Hillary for teaching us that one. Apparently she got away with it. Meanwhile, let's look at laws that may be a little more applicable to our lives. There is actually a federal law barring "conspiracy against rights" (18 USC 241). If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured - They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death. So, if anyone conspires "to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person . . . in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, . . . they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both." We could easily read a lot into that, but let's just stick with the exact words of the Bill of Rights. In the First Amendment, we find that the free exercise of religion is suddenly being threatened. So too are our rights of free speech and assembly. And the Fourth Amendment has been totally trashed lately. The fact is that nine out of the first ten amendments have been pretty well "interpreted" to a point where they favor the expediency of government agents rather than the American people. The "Conspiracy against Rights" law, therefore, must not be one that is often enforced. So, let's try another. There is also a "deprivation of rights under color of law" law (18 USC 242), which applies better to government agencies: Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, . . . shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both . . . Here again, the law is violated regularly. Any compilation of specific information on citizens would be a violation of the Fourth Amendment. So too would warrantless searches (inspections) by regulatory agencies. For instance, nearly everything the IRS does is a violation of the Constitution. The sad fact is, most recent laws, rules and regulations violate the Constitutional rights of the people in some way. Possibly though, we are reading the above laws wrong and the words do not mean exactly what they say. Perhaps there could be some hidden clause in the Rule of Law somewhere that states that laws like the two above apply only to the protected ones: those elected to office, their friends and the bureaucrats. It must be that. Else, the whole of government is negligent in the enforcement of its own law. E-mail to: fiedor19@eos.net Copyright c 1998 by Doug Fiedor, all rights reserved This text may be copied and distributed freely but only in its entirety, and with no changes Previous Editions at: http://www.uhuh.com/reports/headsup/list-hu.htm and http://mmc.cns.net/headsup.html Rose Bowen Prophetic Secrets and the New World Order Will they affect your life??? http://www.sayhello.com/secrets -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: [Fwd: Clinton Perjury Poll] (fwd) Date: 07 Aug 1998 18:16:38 PST On Aug 07, Arlin H. Adams wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Hey All, Go to "http://www.decentdesigns.com/svlogic/html/minipolls.html" and vote on whether or not you think King William should be impeached if he committed perjury. So far, the "Nays" are leading. Let's change that. ;-) -- L8R. Dave Personal: Email: wizard@van-kopp.com Web site: http://www.van-kopp.com Business: Email: Dave@spol.com Web Site: http://www.spol.com PGP fingerprint = A8 75 C1 C0 78 67 B3 E9 F7 14 02 49 70 1E C4 2F Public key available at http://www.van-kopp.com/elecpriv.html#pgpkey or http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html -- "War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -- John Stuart Mill [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sabutigo@teleport.com Subject: Another Gun Grabber, Pete Defazio Date: 07 Aug 1998 19:28:22 -0600 It looks like Pete Defazio (D-OR) will be introducing several anti-gun bills. Defazio was supported by -- who else -- the NRA. S. "Getting the facts right is a fundamental requirement of morality." -- Peter W. Huber - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boyd Subject: Re: Another Gun Grabber, Pete Defazio Date: 07 Aug 1998 22:09:36 -0700 (PDT) Sorry to be dense here, but was this in reference to some other post I didn't see? I'd just like to know the details of what Defazio (and the NRA relevent to him) are up to...? -Boyd >It looks like Pete Defazio (D-OR) will be introducing several anti-gun >bills. Defazio was supported by -- who else -- the NRA. >S. > >"Getting the facts right is a fundamental requirement of morality." >-- Peter W. Huber > > >- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sabutigo@teleport.com Subject: Re: Another Gun Grabber, Pete Defazio Date: 08 Aug 1998 13:37:00 -0600 I got my info from my state GOA director. I'll see about getting details. At 10:09 PM 8/7/98 -0700, you wrote: >Sorry to be dense here, but was this in reference to some other post I >didn't see? I'd just like to know the details of what Defazio (and the NRA >relevent to him) are up to...? -Boyd > >>It looks like Pete Defazio (D-OR) will be introducing several anti-gun >>bills. Defazio was supported by -- who else -- the NRA. >>S. >> >>"Getting the facts right is a fundamental requirement of morality." >>-- Peter W. Huber >> >> >>- > > > > >- > > S. "Getting the facts right is a fundamental requirement of morality." -- Peter W. Huber - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sabutigo@teleport.com Subject: Re: Another Gun Grabber, Pete Defazio Date: 08 Aug 1998 20:39:27 -0600 At 01:37 PM 8/8/98 -0600, you wrote: >I got my info from my state GOA director. I'll see about getting details. Here is the word so far from Oregon's GOA director: There are nine seperate bills dealing with "school violence". These include a bill that would require gun locks be sold with guns, that guns be "stored safely" that there be penalties for dealers who sell to minors (there already are of course) and also background checks at gun shows. I will get Bill numbers but I won't be able to get them until Monday. DeFazio's current e-mail address is S. "Getting the facts right is a fundamental requirement of morality." -- Peter W. Huber - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Forbidden Words (fwd) Date: 09 Aug 1998 23:25:10 PST On Aug 10, Rose Bowen wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] For education and discussion. Not for commercial use. Forbidden Words http://www.fatalblindness.com August 9, 1998 Fulton Huxtable Here is something you may not know. If you don't, you are not alone, since most Americans appear to be completely unaware of it. And the reason most do not know it is that the media hasn't provided the details. What is "it"? The fact that legislation recently passed the House that would forbid you to use certain words, during the 60-day period prior to a general election, in any "type of general public communication." It would be illegal for you to engage in "a communication that advocates the election or defeat of a candidate by-(i) containing a phrase such as `vote for', `re-elect', `support', `cast your ballot for', `(name of candidate) for Congress', (name of candidate) in 1997', `vote against', `defeat', `reject' or a campaign slogan or words that in context can have no reasonable meaning other than to advocate the election or defeat of 1 or more clearly identified candidates;" (Title II, Sec. 201 (b) (20) (A). Welcome to the hoped-for, totalitarian world of the Shays-Meehan bill, pleasingly touted to the public as the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act. This Act does not stop with merely banning the use of certain words in any public forum, during the 60 days before a general election, it makes a sweeping ban of "...a communication that advocates the election or defeat of a candidate by-(iii) expressing unmistakable or unambiguous support for or opposition to 1 or more clearly identified candidates when taken as a whole and with limited reference to external events, such as proximity to an election." (Title II, Sec. 201 (b) (20) (A) (iii)). If this legislation is signed into law it will bring widespread, forcible suppression of freedom of expression, suddenly putting into high gear what has, so far, been a slow-motion death march toward totalitarian rule in America. Even though statists claim that these restrictions would only apply to ads coming from such groups as the Sierra Club or the NRA, consider the possibilities which will be offered to statists and the power they will have against anyone who opposes them. With the power to ban any "...communication.expressing unmistakable and unambiguous support...," logic, as logic always does, will drive statists to take this to its ultimate conclusion. Just what might be the target of statist regulators? Anything and everything: every means of communication would eventually become subject to regulation. How about your web site? It certainly is a means of communication. How about your postings to an online discussion forum or newsgroup? Yep, this would qualify as communication. What if you have a list of individuals to whom you e-mail political messages? This, too, would be a communication. In fact, virtually any form of public expression, anything you might say for the purpose of influencing the outcome of an election-a letter to the editor of a newspaper, a telephone call to a talk radio show or a speech given to a group of individuals-would be banned during the 60 days prior to a general election. This legislation would also mean that for the 60 days prior to a general election, no newspaper, magazine or any other publication could issue an editorial either for or against a candidate. Talk radio show hosts, such as Rush Limbaugh, would effectively be silenced for 60 days. There would essentially be no public utterances for or against candidates during 60 days of suppression, except, of course, for the candidates themselves, their political parties and their representatives. According to news reports, the Shays-Meehan bill is given little chance of passing the Senate, but there are only a half-a-dozen or so Senators standing in the way of its passage-that is how close America is to taking one, gigantic step closer to full-blown totalitarianism. What if there are a few changes in the makeup of the Senate in the coming, November elections, changes that alter the philosophic mix of the Senate, making it even more statist than it is now? What if those now standing in the way of the passage of Shays-Meehan are no longer in office? Given the penchant of most Americans to only judge legislation by its cover and the unconscionable editorial support it has received from most newspapers, most will rally around this Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act and will only discover the meaning of their act of support after it is too late. Once statists succeed in establishing censorship for 60 days prior to elections, the collapse of freedom will accelerate with startling swiftness. Statists will soon claim that 60 days isn't long enough, that these restrictions on speech need to be extended and they will call for these extensions during the 60 days of silence, when no one can effectively speak out against them, when only statist politicians can speak and run their ads to influence opinion-and they will get that extension, one that will go to 120 days, then to a year before any election, then to a total ban on public expression for or against a candidate. I have repeatedly warned that America will quickly collapse into complete totalitarian rule shortly after freedom of speech is sharply restricted-and we are now within sight of such restrictions on speech being imposed in the very near future. It could only be a year or two away, or it could be longer-or, if enough act now, it will never happen. (If you are relying on the Supreme Court to save the First Amendment, don't bet your life on it. For decades, the Supreme Court has been sanctioning the nibbling away of the First Amendment.) The passage in the House of the Shays-Meehan bill should be a wake-up call to anyone who values his freedom. The alarm bells should be ringing. There should be a storm of protests. Alarmingly, there are no alarms and no storms of protest-at least, not yet. While you still have the freedom to do so, you had better act now, speak out while you still have the freedom to do so. If you don't, statists will eventually see to it that your voluntary silence now will become involuntary silence in the future. Fulton Huxtable [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: DMN: Bin Laden Islamic militant behind all attacks? (fwd) Date: 10 Aug 1998 09:35:43 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- The Dallas Morning News 8-9-98 Analysts point to Saudi exile Islamic militant pledged to kill Jews and Americans 08/09/98 Knight-Ridder Newspapers There was no hard evidence linking any terrorist group to the deadly U.S. Embassy bombings Friday in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. But almost unanimously, U.S. intelligence experts topped their list of circumstantial suspects with a 41-year-old multimillionaire fundamentalist engineer from Saudi Arabia named Osama bin Laden. Earlier this summer, the U.S. State Department issued an official travel advisory regarding Mr. Bin Laden, saying he had threatened to attack American interests in the Persian Gulf or South Asia. Security at American embassies and consulates was beefed up from Egypt to India. The fugitive fundamentalist financier was interviewed by ABC News in his Afghan mountain hideaway. Mr. Bin Laden scoffed at American efforts to capture him, and vowed to continue killing Jews and Americans: "We believe that the biggest thieves in the world and the terrorists are the Americans. The only way for us to fend off these assaults is to use similar means. We do not differentiate between those dressed in military uniforms and civilians; they are all targets in this fatwa [religious edict]." One of 52 sons of a Saudi Arabian construction magnate, Mr. Bin Laden is the most prominent example of a new kind of transnational terrorist. Beholden to no nation or ideology, self-financed and savvy about weapons, tactics and technology, he has been waging a personal holy war against the United States for more than five years. One group that analysts believe has been funded lately by Mr. Bin Laden is Islamic Jihad. The loosely organized group has made numerous threats against U.S. interests this year, most recently in a letter faxed to Agence France-Presse in Cairo on Thursday morning, just 24 hours before the African attacks. In the letter, the Jihad threatened retaliation against the United States because of alleged U.S. involvement in the extradition of three of its members from Europe to stand trial in Egypt. "We inform the Americans . . . of preparations for a response which we hope they read with care, because we will write it, with God's help, in a language they will understand," read the letter. The Jihad - Arabic for "struggle" and a popular name for various Islamic militant groups - is a reincarnation of the movement that assassinated Egyptian President Anwar Sadat in 1981. The Islamic Jihad was largely wiped out after the assassination, its members imprisoned or executed by Egyptian security. But analysts say it has resurrected itself in recent years, thanks to the generous patronage of Mr. Bin Laden. Hussein Amin, a former Egyptian ambassador to Algeria, and a Cairo-based expert in Islamic terrorism, cautioned against rushing to conclusions about who might be responsible for the bombings. "Remember that everybody thought at first that Arabs did the Oklahoma City bombing, when it turned out to be Americans," he said. But if it is an Arab group, he said, "I would say this is the handiwork of what we call the Afghanis." Mr. Bin Laden's group is called the "Afghanis" because they are remnants of an army of Islamic volunteers who traveled to Afghanistan in 1979 to fight the Soviet Union. He is a slender man whose long, thin face is accentuated by a beard that reaches nearly to his chest. He wears the traditional robes of his Saudi ancestors, robes trimmed with gold. He was married to four women when he was interviewed by a British reporter in 1996. Mr. Bin Laden was exiled from Saudi Arabia in 1991 to Sudan but now lives in the mountains of Afghanistan, tolerated by the extremist Taliban. His fortune, earned in oil and construction, is now devoted to various Islamic causes, some innocuous charities and other allegedly deadly terrorist adventures. From his base in Afghanistan, Mr. Bin Laden is believed to have rallied Islamic mercenaries to fight alongside Bosnians and Chechens in their respective wars. He has also been linked to the Somalian clan that battled American troops in Somalia in 1993. He is alleged to have supplied rocket-propelled grenades and expert instruction to clan fighters who were able to shoot down two U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopters. According to a report last year by the Emergency Response and Research Institute, based in Chicago, the State Department has strong evidence that Mr. Bin Laden was involved in a 1995 bombing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, in which five U.S. service personnel were killed. The report said there also were suspicions of his fingerprints in the more serious terrorist truck bombing in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, the following year, in which 19 American soldiers perished, and in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing in New York. Paul Watson pwatson@utdallas.edu - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a487891.htm (fwd) Date: 10 Aug 1998 18:24:41 -0500 (CDT) This is a must read: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Topic: THE THIRD WAY AMERICA: 2003 January 31, 1997 Missy Kelly AMERICA: 2003 [In his January 27th article for the Wall Street Journal (click for ALEXANDERLEBED on RUSSIA ) ] Lebed laments that the "formation of a middle class the guarantor of stability and positive change everywhere has been postponed or even halted." There will be no middle class in the Third Way. The Middle class is what sustains and nourishes a democracy. The middle class is the "guarantor of stability and positive change everywhere," as Lebed says. Communism does not include a middle class, by philosophy. If we are to move to the Third Way in this country, the middle class will need to be destroyed. Think about this idea in context with events in this country over the last 20 years. Has the lifestyle and opportunity of the middle class changed? The figures show that middle class incomes, adjusted for inflation, have stagnat since the late 1970's...that's my entire adult life. (cut) THIS battle bode ILL FOR DEMOCRACY." Even though they are looking at only one battlefront, they are correct: what is being forced down out throats by fiat, and non-legislative bodies, DOES BODE ILL FOR DEMOCRACY. Now step back and look at ALL the battles being waged..they ALL bode ill for democracy. Because Democracy is Under Seige. Our nation is under seige. The battle to undermine our democracy so as to move us to embrace the Third Way is everywhere. And no, it is not a conspiracy. There are a precious few who understand the true goals. But there are minions who unwittingly do their bidding, not understanding how their actions fit into the total picture. The common factor here is the cultivation of myopic ideologues. (cut) The Communist side won't need their money, nor their influence because the society will already be tightly controlled by the communist side. If they chose to nationalize all industry at this point, what could the "capitalists", or "corporate suprapragmatists" do to prevent them? Nothing. IMHO, the "corporate suprapragmatists" are being deluded in thinking they will end up at the top of the heap when all is said and done. On the contrary, in the end game, they will be told..Thanks so much for your assistance in creating these global oligopolies for us, and taken out and shot. It is the finest irony. Look at the recent barkings in Hong Kong. The freedoms will go out the window when China takes over. You see, MIGHT wins...not capitalism. Without personal freedom there is NO capitalism; the suprapragmetists who have deluding themselves all these years are about get rudely awakened. The "best of communism" has all the cards...the weapons of repression, the system of repression, the entire social compact. And what will the corporate suprapragmetists have at his disposal to maintain his position at the top of the heap? Nothing. A fool's game. I know that what I write is radical. I also know that what I write is true. The future of this nation is the "cronysim between officialdom and capitalists" [what Safire said], the "financial-poltical corporations", "financial-political oligarchy" [what Lebed said]. I have dedicated three years of my life, and the last of my meager resources in an attempt to understand this entity I call Flagship. I understand that most of you will not know what to make of this, or me. You don't have the background information. And gloriously, with Americans exhausted from working and raising kids, frantically trying to dig-in against the relentless slide of their middle class standard of living, most of you don't have time to investigate all this. It is just another facet of the terrible beauty we behold. If we spend our lives running on the hamster wheel, we are simply too overwhelmed to pay attention. I fault no one who simply wants to live a quiet existance, being left alone. That is all I have ever wanted. But it works against me, and us all. By nature we just want to be left alone...to be free to do as we please without the government constantly in our face, and in our pocketbooks. But this desire to be left alone, and not have others impose their ideologies on us, is precisely why we often shrink from the battle. We don't want others telling us what to do, and equally, we don't feel comfortable telling other people what to do. So, we get walked over, and rail-roaded, and won't fight back with the same weapons...weapons that are philosophically anethemas to us...such as subterfuge, grabbing power by fiat. The mechanisms that are used against us are weapons we would never chose to use in our defense, because it would mean that WE would be COVERTLY imposing our views on others....the precise anthesis of what we believe. You cannot win a battle unless you know there is a war going on. This article originally appeared on the Prodigy WW Bulletin Board, January 31, 1997. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Fwd: Hearthside, August 11, America's Religion Date: 11 Aug 1998 17:55:00 -0400 This one was too good to keep to myself. Tom >From: "Hearthside Family Publications" >To: "Our friends at Hearthside"hearth@hancock.net >Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:57:55 +0000 >X-Distribution: Moderate >Subject: Hearthside, August 11, America's Religion >Reply-to: hearth@hancock.net >Priority: normal > > >Hearthside, August 11, America's Religion > >What makes a right unalienable? What is an unalienable right? > >John Locke wrote of rights as the possession of God for each >individual, "all servants of one omnipotent and infinitely wise Maker; >all the servants of one sovereign master, sent into the world by His >order and about His business, they are His property." > >William Blackstone asserted that no human agency can seize rights >granted by God and nature, "no legislature has power to abridge or >destroy them, unless the owner shall himself commit some act that >amounts to a forfeiture." > >Might this mean that no power can kill us unless we surrender our >right to live? Glad you asked... Yes and no, but today we will only >look at "no." > >A man can walk up to his neighbor and slay him in cold blood, or he >can reach inside the womb and dismember forever the child living >there. So much that neighbor. So much for that cute kid with pink >cheeks and puckered fingers. "So much," say unwitting fools, "for >unalienable rights; we can legislate any way we choose and you can't >stop us." > >Our founders understood: you and I do not own those rights. God does, >and He has given man restricted use of them for life. And for liberty. >And for the pursuit of happiness. As a gift. > >Speaking for the understanding of our founders, Jefferson said, >"Almighty God hath created the mind free. All attempts to influence it >by temporal punishments or burdens...are a departure from the plan of >the Holy Author of our religion." > >This was understood for a long time in America. This is why you can >still find the reason for America's independence and liberty engraved >in Jefferson's Memorial. You can read it there. If you read it out >loud you can hear it echo: > >"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a >nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a >conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the >Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?" > >His wrath... Do you believe in God? I mean, really? Jefferson did. >That is why the engraved quote ends, "Indeed, I tremble for my country >when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep >forever." > >"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place to >wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the >Lord." (Romans 12:19 Webster's) But be careful that you do not >surrender your rights while you are waiting. Give place to your wrath. > >Our fathers understood this; it was not a batch of metaphysics, but >the source of our freedom. > >It belonged to the religion of America. > >Dave and Helen Delany >--- > "Liberty Begins at Hearthside" >Copyright: Hearthside Family Publications > PO Box 212 Conklin NY 13748 > http://www.hancock.net/~freedom > * * * * * > Free! > ><> To Subscribe (or unsubscribe) > Send request to hearth@hancock.net > and ask about Hearth Tabs: >regular doses of historical perspective! > Free! > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: sabutigo@teleport.com Subject: OR: Rep. DeFazio Pushing Gun Control Date: 12 Aug 1998 13:55:15 -0600 Here's further info on DeFazio >X-From_: goamail@gunowners.org Wed Aug 12 09:22:56 1998 >Return-Path: goamail@gunowners.org >Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:54:14 -0400 >From: Gun Owners of America >Reply-To: Gun Owners of America >To: goamail@gunowners.org >Subject: OR: Rep. DeFazio Pushing Gun Control > >Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert >8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 >Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 >http://www.gunowners.org > >August 12, 1998 Oregon alert > >In the wake of the Thurston High School shootings, NRA >endorsed House Rep. Pete DeFazio (D, District 4) has >introduced 9 separate bills "aimed at ending school >violence." > >Included are bills which will: > > * mandate trigger locks (HR 4441) > * require "safe" storage of firearms (HR 4444 "Under this > legislation it will be a criminal misdemeanor if a child > gains access to a loaded firearm that has not been > properly stored and and the child either carries the gun > in public or uses it to shoot someone including himself > or herself" -- DeFazios's words) > * force background checks for firearms purchases at gun > shows (HR 4442) > * strip dealers of their FFL if they sell to a minor > (HR 4443) > >Of course, NONE of these measures would have had any >effect on the criminal who was responsible for the >shootings at Thurston High School. > >Gun sales to minors are already illegal and carry severe >penalties and the other provisions of DeFazio's bills >would have in no way altered the outcome of that crime. > >DeFazio is grandstanding and using the Thurston tragedy >to promote himself and his reelection while hiding behind >his NRA endorsement. What DeFazio really wants is an easy >way to prosecute law-abiding gun owners whose guns are >stolen and used in crimes. > >Call Representative DeFazio and tell him that you don't >want an NRA endorsement to be used as a smokescreen for >someone to restrict your rights. > >DeFazio can be reached at (800) 944-9603 in Oregon, or >(202) 225-6416 in Washington D.C. > >His address is: >2134 Rayburn House Office Building >Washington D.C 20515 > >e-mail: peter.defazio@mail.house.gov > >**************************************************************** >Did someone else forward this to you? To be certain of getting >up to date information, please consider subscribing directly to >the GOA E-Mail Alert Network. The service is totally free and >carries no obligation. Your e-mail address remains confidential, >and the volume is quite low, usually one or two messages per >week. To subscribe, simply send a message (or forward this >notice) to goamail@gunowners.org and indicate your state of >residence in either the subject or the body. To unsubscribe, >reply to any alert and ask to be removed. > > S. "Getting the facts right is a fundamental requirement of morality." -- Peter W. Huber - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: History for today (fwd) Date: 12 Aug 1998 16:37:02 PST On Aug 12, farout@netunlimited.net wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] The following essay is written by Massad Ayoob, the ranking sensei of the defensive pistol. Mr. Ayoob is not only the leading instructor and instructor trainer in handguns, he is also heavily in demand as an expert witness in lawsuits involving the use of lethal force, as well as being a sworn police officer for almost 20 years. Ayoob runs his defensive firearms academy, Lethal Force Institute, in Grantham, New Hampshire. This essay was printed in the June, 1994 issue of Guns Magazine. ============================================================================== I have been an activist for firearms rights all my adult life. However, only now have I begun to feel like a Jew in the Warsaw Ghetto. Only now have all of us American gun owners lived under a regime that has made it clear that it would rather our kind did not exist, and which has publicly dedicated itself to reducing our numbers. Let us, for a moment, set aside the Second Amendment. In the time of political correctness, we need to address politically correct issues before we talk about the fundamental cornerstones of freedom guaranteed by our Constitution. Do not speak to me of James Madison. Speak to me of defamation. There are Americans alive who can remember the Jim Crow years, when African-Americans were stereotyped in cartoons as baboons or Stepin Fetchit characters. There was a time when Jews were portrayed as hook-nosed, snaggle-toothed avatars of soulless greed. Until very recently, national newspapers and magazines ran cartoons that depicted Arabs with vulpine features. Except for racist hate literature, that sort of thing is gone from the mainstream media of 1994. Well, almost gone. Caught some anti-gun political cartoons lately? The gun owners and gun dealers will be depicted as physically unattractive, dirty, unkempt, and possibly keeping company with drug dealers. Mario Cuomo, spoken of as a potential Clinton appointee to the Supreme Court, has described hunters as drunken slobs who lie to their wives about their whereabouts over the weekend. Cuomo's implicit caricature of us is a graphic example of how we are seen by the in crowd that currently occupies the White House campus. We who own guns for personal and family protection are targets of opportunity for this sort of slander and libel. We have no anti-defamation league of our own. Shall we go to the American Civil Liberties Union for help? We shall receive there as much succor as the victims of the pogroms would have received from the Hitler Youth. In both cases, the victims were not politically correct, and in both cases, the organization in question would never have spoken against its own candidate. Do not speak to me of Thomas Jefferson. Speak to me of civil rights. President Clinton has spoken enthusiastically of the proposals by the politically opportunistic mayors of our two largest cities to limit handgun ownership with a scheme of needs-based licensing. History shows where they come from. We've seen it in their cities in the issuance of permits to carry concealed handguns. In the Los Angeles of Mayor Riordan or the New York of Mayor Guiliani, needs-based licensing has meant and still means, this: If you are a Eurocentric white male with a lot of money, and preferably have contributed money to the party in power, you have a need and well consider giving you a license. When that is applied to mere ownership o handguns, I think we all know where it is going. The Clinton-approved concept of needs-based licensing for ownership discriminates against citizens, black, brown, red and yellow. It discriminates against the old, with their traditionally fixed incomes, and against the sick and the crippled who need a defense gun most, but are most likely to be burdened by the sort of medical debt that the First Lady has so often decried. Although those who would make the gun owners of America as extinct in America as German Jews in 1944 Berlin would paint themselves as the champions of the poor and the oppressed and the people of color, the fact is in this nation that the yoke of poverty has fallen most heavily on just those citizens. It is they who are most likely to be trapped in the pockets of poverty that the call the inner city, the places where crime breeds. It is they who are most likely to be preyed upon by criminals. It is they who most need the wherewithal to defend themselves. It is they who, cruelly and ironically, will be hardest-hit by the enormous guns and ammunition taxes proposed by the Clinton administration and its supporters, taxes that would make the tools of self defense prohibitively expensive for all but the rich and secure. These proposed laws impact most brutally, sometimes with life or death consequences, upon the poor, upon the victims of politically incorrect, but nonetheless very real, discrimination. Don't speak to me of the Minutemen at Concord and Lexington. Speak to me of sexism. Who among today's electorate does not remember the horror of the young woman ravaged by the wilders in Central Park? Would Mace or a rape whistle have worked for her? Can any mother of any daughter, no matter what her political beliefs, examine the scenario and not wish that, if the daughter in question was hers, she would have in hand a high-capacity semiautomatic pistol she knew how to use? The gun isn't know as the equalizer for nothing. Nothing less will balance the lethal disparity of force that the predatory male, alone or in packs, can exert at will over the lone female. How great would be the hypocrisy of politically active women who worked to keep that life- saving power away from their sisters and their daughters? Don't tell me about the Second Amendment. Tell me about the Fourth. The one that supposedly preserves us from unlawful search and seizure. The administration speaks of banning assault rifles. Where the toe has been dipped in those waters -- New York City, and the New Jersey of the same former Governor Florio who, insiders say, the President wants to appoint as a gun czar -- the five year-old model of Great Britain has been followed. Expensive firearms are banned, citizens are paid a few cents on the dollar for turning them into the government, or nothing at all if they destroy their property. Understand the horror! For the first time in this nations history, we are talking about the confiscation of private property, lawfully purchased and responsibly owned, without fair market value compensation under the eminent domain principle! Eminent domain says that if the Government determines that to preserve the public good it must take your property, it must at least pay current fair price to you before doing so. Considering how many guns -- some with more than a century of service in hunting fields and the target ranges-- are involved, and how high the current readily-salable retail has gone for AUGs and AR-15s and the like. The Government would have to spend many millions of dollars to compensate under the eminent domain principle. Billions that would save far more lives if devoted to medical research or housing the homeless, or drug interdiction, or feeding the hungry, or... Finally, at the end, do speak to me of the Second Amendment. Tell me why this alone, amongst every other precious standard of individual liberty in the entire Bill of Rights, should apply to auxiliary soldiers when the rest speak to citizens one by one? Don't be so blatantly stupid as to tell anyone who passed elementary school American History that the Second Amendment was about the National Guard. In the time of American Revolution, the national guard would have been Tories loyal to King George. I do not think that Madison and company felt a need to keep them armed. The fight for the next three years goes to the heart of your freedom, and that of you children and grandchildren. It will not be fought with guns and bullets. It will only be about them. It will be fought with political activism and common sense. It will be fought by reaching out to new allies, by forging coalitions of those who have already learned the hard way the truth that those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. -- "Most people, sometime in their lives, stumble across truth. Most jump up, brush themselves off, and hurry on about their business as if nothing had happened." - Sir Winston Churchill Sent to you by: Jay Shore NC Delegate, 3rd Continental Congress [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [Peter W. Martin: liibulletin - A Brief Report, Announcement & Solicitation] (fwd) Date: 12 Aug 1998 23:33:01 PST On Aug 12, Rich Zellich wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Thought these web-based resources might be of use... -Rich ----- Forwarded message # 1: Reply-To: martin@WWW.LAW.CORNELL.EDU Sender: owner-liibulletin@listserv.law.cornell.edu AN E-BULLETIN LEGAL INFORMATION INSTITUTE -- CORNELL LAW SCHOOL lii@lii.law.cornell.edu =============================================================== Summer is not Vacation Time at the LII =============================================================== While the Supreme Court's term ended at the end of June, work at the LII did not. As those of you who have used our collection of Supreme Court decisions this summer know, within days after the end of term we had prepared party name tables for the year, added available print citations, and prepared a summary of the term's highlights. 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Martin Co-Director, LII ----- End of forwarded messages [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: Seminar on Taking Back Our Constitution! (fwd) Date: 13 Aug 1998 13:58:33 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Dear Free Congress Foundation Friend, Are you a concerned American citizen? If you are, then you know that the federal judiciary has strayed from the role America's founders meant for it. Instead, the federal judiciary makes decisions that should be left up to the people. There is a solution, and YOU can be a part of it! It is time for Americans to Take Back Our Constitution. What options are available to you? What options are available to you to combat the federal judiciary whose broadened powers threaten the very foundation America was built upon? The Free Congress Foundation offers you the opportunity to impact the way our country is governed, via Internet and satellite-in its six-part Taking Back Our Constitution series offered to you absolutely FREE! That's right, you can interact with American's top legal experts & scholars by accessing Free Congress Foundation's webpage at http//www.fcref.org/constitution, or by America's Voice Network via GE 1 @ 103 Degrees Transponder 19-H C band satellite. This live and interactive series will allow you to converse with constitutional experts and ask them questions via email, fax, and phone calls. Call the Free Congress Foundation now to receive FREE reading materials that pertain to the series! You won't want to miss the next special coming up on September 19, 1998- entitled "Your Citizenship" at 1 PM - 4 PM Eastern/10 AM - 1 PM Pacific. Email now to take part in this FREE, live, & interactive broadcast of Taking Back Our Constitution by Contacting Angie Wheeler at awheeler@fcref.org or call 1-800-548-7299 ext. 450. REMEMBER WHEN RESPONDING, PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, & PHONE NUMBER! We look forward to your participation in this rewarding opportunity! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: Fw: [FP] Your turn to play Big Brother (fwd) Date: 14 Aug 1998 09:55:19 PST On Aug 14, Terry Walker wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] -----Original Message----- >Tuesday, August 11, 1998 > >INTERSCOPE > >Lisa Ronthal's >Exclusive commentary > >Your turn to play Big Brother >Audit your representatives through the Web > >[The complete article is at WorldNetDaily:] >http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ronthal/980811.comlr.html > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- - >---- > >Audit your representatives' finances online > >They do it to you -- now you can do it to them. Thanks to the nonprofit >Center for Responsive Politics, you have quick, easy Web access, right now, >to detailed information about your elected representatives' finances. Here >are just a few of the things you can find out via the CRP site: Examine any >member of Congress' personal financial disclosure forms >(http://www.crp.org/pfds/) Look up representatives' campaign money profiles >(http://www.crp.org/candidates/index.htm) Find individual contributors to >federal candidates, PACs, or party committees -- the site lets you look them >up by name, ZIP code, employer, or candidate >(http://www.crp.org/indivs/public/htdocs/) Profile the money breakdown of >any 1998 House or Senate race (http://www.crp.org/1998elect/index.htm) The >CRP maintains databases on everything from White House coffees to >Congressional travel to tobacco money -- and it's all online. > >All this information is technically available through other channels; the >difference is that now it's practically and simply available, for the >taking, to anyone with access to an Internet connection. And that is the >information revolution in a nutshell. This Web site isn't just an important >political resource in itself: it's also a superb example of the >still-too-infrequently-realized potential of the Internet for altering the >balance of power in favor of the individual. > >If you thought the government's tendency to try to place controls on >Internet use was really all about child pornography, think again. It's >certainly not about controlling child porn; I would imagine that it's not a >question of controlling cultural-political content at all -- I've no doubt >the state is perfectly happy to be able to monitor its opponents of all >sorts through their activity online. No. It's all about the flow of >information itself. > >[snop] > >The balance of the article is at: >http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ronthal/980811.comlr.html [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fw: Columbus, Ohio Assault Weapon Victory! (fwd) Date: 16 Aug 1998 13:12:29 PST On Aug 16, Bob Mueller wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ______________________________________ Bob Mueller Second Amendment Research Network - http://www.infinet.com/~bmueller/Index.html D, 6/52 ADA Alumni Association Commander http://www.gather.com/d652ada/ -----Original Message----- :[Note from Matthew Gaylor: Peoples Rights Organization (PRO) is a gun :rights organization based in Columbus, OH 3953 Indianola Ave.; Columbus, :OH 43214; :Tel (614) 268-0122 FAX (614) 261-9100 (note new FAX number!) :EMAIL:CompuServe ID: 73427,1615 INTERNET: 2PRO@compuserve.com or :dcarney@freenet.columbus.oh.us . Files of their newsletter the PROponent :back issues are available by email request at: 2pro@compuserve.com Or :any of the above email addresses. I personally know the chairman and vice :chair of PRO and I can say that they spend an incredible amount of effort :in defense of our 2nd amendment freedom. This particular announcement is :from PRO's Chairman Jim Ramm. Jim is a retired police Sgt. and is a :sitting board member of the National Rifle Association.] : : :From: #jramm :Date: Thu, 16 Jul 98 : :IT'S BEEN A LONG WAIT, BUT IT WAS WORTH IT!!!! THE U.S. COURT OF :APPEALS FOR THE 6TH CIRCUIT HAS REACHED ITS DECISION ON THE PRO V :COLUMBUS ASSAULT WEAPON BAN SUIT. : :This is the last paragraph of a 4 page fax I got from Stephen P. :Halbrook, Ph.D. (our attorney) yesterday afternoon describing the court's :decision: : : "In sum, the Columbus assault weapon ban in nullified by the :decision based on the grandfather clause being violative of equal :protection and all of the assault weapon definitions being vague. The :high capacity magazine ban is nullified because its grandfather clause is :violative of equal protection." : :The only thing which could have made this decision better would have been :if the court had linked the ordinance to a violation of constitutional :protections under Art. II U. S. Constitution and Art. I, Section IV, Ohio :Constitution. : :This is a quote from the decision, "Nevertheless, it is well established :that due process protects our citizens from vague legislation even when :that legislation regulates conduct which otherwise does not enjoy :constitutional protection." This could be the one hope that Columbus has :in either appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court or dropping this and :drafting a completely new ban. Rest assured; if Columbus attempts to go :further PRO will be there to stand in their way (as always)! : :The complete decision can be downloaded from the following URL (thanks to :Billie Grey and Steve Halbrook's office for providing it): : : http://www.law.emory.edu/6circuit/july98/98a0210p.06.html : :Constitutionally, : :Jim Ramm :Chairman, PRO : :************************************************************************** :Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues :Send a blank message to: freematt@coil.com with the words subscribe FA :on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) :Matthew Gaylor,1933 E. Dublin-Granville Rd.,#176, Columbus, OH 43229 :Archived at http://www.reference.com/cgi-bin/pn/listarch?list=FA@coil.com :************************************************************************** [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Timely Poetry (fwd) Date: 16 Aug 1998 17:14:27 PST On Aug 16, Dennis Justice wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] OK. Put your coffee cup down and swallow or spit out any thing in you mouth before you read this! ================== This is from a contest on Long Island. The requirements were to use the words Lewinski and Kaczynski in a limerick. Here are the 3 winners. Entry # 1 There once was a gal named Lewinsky Who played on a flute like Stravinsky 'Twas "Hail to the Chief" on this flute made of beef that stole the front page from Kaczynski. Entry # 2 Said Bill Clinton to young Ms. Lewinsky We don't want to leave clues like Kaczynski, Since you look such a mess, use the hem of your dress And wipe that stuff off of your chinsky. Entry # 3 Lewinsky and Clinton have shown what Kaczynski must surely have known: that an intern is better than a bomb in a letter given the choice of how to be blown. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Joe Sylvester Subject: Just a "coinincidance" I'm sure...NOT Date: 16 Aug 1998 21:49:09 -0500 Any one else find it curious that TBS chose to air "The American President", featuring a "good guy" President, maligned by an evil Right Winger, just out for votes, tonight of all possibile nights, just before a President with similar political leanings is going to testify before a grand jury about about..well y'all know. Not once mind you, but twice back to back. I guess this tells us how stupid certain, shall we say elitists, think the rest of us out here in fly-over country, are. Relavance to arms rights lists? The "President" sympathetically portrayed in the movie was fore-square for gun control, stating in the final climactic speech, that "Assault weapons and handguns" are a threat to national security. He also found nothing incongruous in berating his antagonist for attacking the ACLU, stating that it is an organization whose sole purpose is to support the Bill of Rights, and then about two sentences later coming out for infringing upon "the right of the people to keep and bear arms". Seems like there is something about that in the BoR too. The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution. ---Doug McKay" Joe Sylvester Don't Tread On Me ! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Ferris Subject: Who Cares? Date: 16 Aug 1998 23:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Who cares ... If the President, a liar, can order the use of nuclear weaponry? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, can send American's brave sons and daughters wearing military uniforms into assorted hell holes around the Third World? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, can give a direct order to the Attorney General of the United States, the nation's highest ranking law enforcement officer? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, unfaithful to his spouse, whom he swore, in a house of God, to honor, is also unfaithful to the U.S. Constitution, which he swore, with his hand resting on a Bible, to protect and defend? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, under oath, spins lawyer-construed tales of half-truths and quasi-lies, before a grand jury of Americans? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, took physical advantage of a young, unpaid female White House intern (volunteer) and, in the process, compromised both personal honor and the Presidency? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, if re-investigated *today* for eligibility to have access to classified defense or national security-related information, could not be cleared for access to "For Official Use Only" inter-agency memoranda, much less any CONFIDENTIAL, SECRET, TOP SECRET or sensitive compartmented information, due to his recurring displays of poor judgment, his demonstrated moral turpitude and his proven inability to tell the truth? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, is a cunning cad, a reckless rogue, a wandering womanizer and a proven threat to America's daughters? Who cares ... If the President, a liar who, in speeches, condemns terrorism against Americans, terrorizes American women behind closed doors in his never ending search for sexual gratification and in his lust to dominate and to overpower members of the opposite gender? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, is viewed as "the most powerful person in the world", as a "leader" whose every decision affects people worldwide? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, can employ his minions within the federal bureaucracy and his cronies within Congress to defend his egregious misconduct and to vilify and demonize any Americans who would dare question his political chicanery or his fitness to remain in office? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, can be depended upon to stonewall, to dissemble, to equivocate, to forget, to not know, to not recall, to spout verbal jibberish, to view the truth as irrelevant, and to behave in this way, without shame, on a daily basis? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, is the walking representation of absence of duty, lack of honor and total disregard for Country? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, may well be assaulting someone else's young daughter tomorrow night, now that his Carville-spun "political survival machine" has finished trashing vulnerable Monica Lewinsky? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, even if admitting to past commission of perjury or if committing new perjury with regard to his so-called "relationship" with a female White House intern, will not resign from office for the good of the Country? Who cares ... If the President, a liar who cannot control his base impulse to engage in amoral behavior, constantly promulgates oppressive executive orders and asks Congress to pass oppressive legislation which slowly strangle the freedom of ordinary Americans to live their lives free from unnecessary governmental regulation or interference? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, is the Commander-in-Chief of U.S. armed forces which operate in an increasingly dangerous, unstable world? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, is the direct supervisor of the Director of Central Intelligence, of the Secretary of State, of the Attorney General, of the Secretary of the Treasury, of the Secretary of Defense, etc.? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, a politician who constantly prattles about his concern "for the children", is, tragically, a sexual predator who hunts for American females who have barely left childhood and reached adulthood? Who cares ... If the President, a liar, sets an abysmally poor moral example for America's children as he shamelessly "chases skirts", dishonoring his wife, his daughter and his marriage in the process? This proud American citizen, devoted husband, loving father of two daughters, military veteran and voter cares. And he does not care that media polls state that many other Americans do not care. He cares. And he hopes fervently that many other Americans care, too. Because, while "sex" may "not matter" to many Americans, DUTY, HONOR and COUNTRY still do. Christopher C. Ferris ferriscc@mainstream.net - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Fwd: The reason for the Second Amendment Date: 17 Aug 1998 07:39:28 -0400 >Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 21:35:36 -0400 >From: E Pluribus Unum >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) >To: E Pluribus Unum Email Distribution Network >Subject: The reason for the Second Amendment > >The reason for the Second Amendment > >by Alan Keyes > > > Sen. Bob Smith has succeeded in amending an upcoming >appropriations bill to beat back the latest wave of Clinton >administration disrespect for two key elements of a free citizenry -- >privacy and the right to keep and bear arms. Smith's amendment to the >Justice-State-Commerce appropriations bill would foil FBI plans to keep >records of private identifying information on law-abiding citizens who >buy guns. The amendment also forbids a proposed tax on gun purchases, >and authorizes citizens to sue if the FBI doesn't observe these >restrictions. > > Senator Smith is to be praised for keeping his eye on some balls that >might have been lost in the smoke of scandal and misinformation that the >Clinton Administration seems endlessly to emit. Actually, few things >could make the need for vigorous defense of 2nd Amendment rights clearer >than the ongoing spectacle of Clinton contempt for the citizens he is >supposed to serve. For the 2nd Amendment is really in the Constitution >to give men like Bill Clinton something to think about when their >ambition gets particularly over-inflated. > > The Second Amendment was not put into the Constitution by the Founders >merely to allow us to intimidate burglars, or hunt rabbits to our >hearts' content. This is not to say that hunting game for the family >dinner, or defending against personal dangers, were not anticipated uses >for firearms, particularly on the frontier. But these things are not the >real purpose of the Amendment. > > The Founders added the 2nd Amendment so that when, after a long train >of abuses, a government evinces a methodical design upon our natural >rights, we will have the means to protect and recover our rights. That >is why the right to keep and bear arms was included in the Bill of >Rights. > > In fact, if we make the judgment that our rights are being >systematically violated, we have not merely the right, but the duty, to >resist and overthrow the power responsible. That duty requires that we >always maintain the material capacity to resist tyranny, if necessary, >something that it is very hard to do if the government has all the >weapons. A strong case can be made, therefore, that it is a fundamental >DUTY of the free citizen to keep and bear arms. > > In our time there have been many folks who don't like to be reminded of >all this. And they try, in their painful way, to pretend that the word >"people" in the 2nd Amendment means something there that it doesn't mean >in any one of the other nine amendments in the Bill of Rights. They say >that, for some odd reason, the Founders had a lapse, and instead of >putting in "states" they put in "people." And so it refers to a right >inherent in the state government. > > This position is incoherent, and has been disproved by every piece of >legitimate historical evidence. At one point in Jefferson's letters, for >example, he is talking about the militia, and he writes, "militia -- >every able-bodied man in the state. ..." The militia was every >able-bodied man in the state. It had nothing to do with the state >government. The words "well-regulated" had to do with organizing that >militia and drilling it in the style of the 19th century, but "militia" >itself referred to the able-bodied citizens of the state or commonwealth >-- not to the state government. > > It would make no sense whatsoever to restrict the right to keep and >bear arms to state governments, since the principle on which our polity >is based, as stated in the Declaration, recognizes that any government, >at any level, can become oppressive of our rights. And we must be >prepared to defend ourselves against its abuses. > > But the movement against 2nd Amendment rights is not just a threat to >our capacity to defend ourselves physically against tyranny. It is also >part of the much more general assault on the very notion that human >beings are capable of moral responsibility. This is a second and deeper >reason that the defense of the 2nd Amendment is essential to the defense >of liberty. > > Advocates of banning guns think we can substitute material things for >human self-control, but this approach won't wash. It is the human moral >will that saves us from violence, not the presence or absence of >weapons. We should reject utterly the absurd theory that weapons are the >cause of violence. > > Consider, for example, the phony assertion that certain weapons >should be banned because "they have no purpose except to kill people." >It is people that kill people, and they can use countless kinds of >weapons to do so, if killing is in their hearts where love of justice >should be. This week a 7-year old boy in Chicago apparently used a pair >of underwear to commit murder, because he wanted a bike. > > So let's get down to the real issue: are we moral adults, or are we >moral children? If we are adults, then we have the capacity to control >our will even in the face of passion, and to be responsible for the >exercise of our natural rights. If we are only children, then all the >particularly dangerous toys must be controlled by the government. >But this "solution" implies that we can trust government with a monopoly >on guns, even though we cannot trust ourselves with them. This is not a >"solution" I trust. > > Anyone who is serious about controlling violence must recognize >that it can only be done by rooting violence out of the human heart. >That's why I don't understand those who say "save us from guns," even >while they cling to the coldly violent doctrine that human life has no >worth except what they "choose" to assign to it. > > If we want to end violence in our land, we must warm the hearts of all >Americans with a renewed dedication to the God-given equality of all >human beings. We must recapture the noble view of man as capable of >moral responsibility and self-restraint -- of assuming responsibility >for governing himself. This is the real meaning of the 2nd Amendment, >and indeed of the entire American project of ordered liberty. > > It is the business of every citizen to preserve justice in his heart, >and the material capacity, including arms, to resist tyranny. These >things constitute our character as a free people, which it is our duty >to maintain. And to fulfill our duty to be such a people we shall have >to return to the humble subjection to the authority of true moral >principle that characterized our Founders, and that characterized every >generation of Americans, until now. We must regain control of ourselves. > > Most deeply, then, the assertion of 2nd Amendment rights is the >assertion that we intend to control ourselves, and submit to the moral >order that God has decreed must govern our lives. And just as we have no >right to shirk our duty to submit to that moral order, so we have no >right to shirk our duty to preserve unto ourselves the material means >to discipline our government, if necessary, so that it remains a fit >instrument for the self-government of a free people. The preservation of >2nd Amendment rights, for the right reasons, is a moral and public duty >of every citizen. > > The Clinton Administration's flirtations with executive tyranny >should remind us that we have a duty to remain capable of disciplining >our government if necessary. Bill Clinton's comprehensive avoidance of >personal responsibility for his own actions, and our revulsion at the >kind of character which that avoidance has produced in him, should be a >kind of horrific preview of the kind of people we will all become if we >continue to let our government treat us as though we were incapable of >moral self-control. And Senator Smith's successful effort to defeat >several policies that treat us that way is precisely the kind of >principled defense of our liberty -- and of the premises of our liberty >-- that make him so worthy to be a representative of a free people. > > >Alan Keyes Web Site is http://www.AlanKeyes.com >-- >****************************************************************** > E Pluribus Unum The Central Ohio Patriot Group > P.O. Box 791 Eventline/Voicemail: (614) 823-8499 > Grove City, OH 43123 > >Meetings: Monday Evenings, 7:30pm, Ryan's Steakhouse > 3635 W. Dublin-Granville Rd. (just East of Sawmill Rd.) > >http://www.infinet.com/~eplurib eplurib@infinet.com >****************************************************************** > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Allegations about Reno (fwd) Date: 17 Aug 1998 08:04:19 PST On Aug 16, pete_ciancia@email.mobil.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] [You are not going to BELIEVE this!!!] Florida Attorney Cites Reno Character Flaws USA Journal Online August 14, 1998 WASHINGTON -- A Florida attorney has charged that Attorney General Janet Reno has refused to seek an independent counsel in the 1996 Democratic fundraising scandal because of blackmail by the Clinton administration for prior flaws in her character. Jack Thompson, the last Republican to challenge Reno for her former job of district attorney in Dade County, Florida, says that because of the allegations, which he claims to substantiate, the Attorney General "is unfit to practice law, let alone serve as this country's top cop." Thompson initially questioned Reno's integrity in a letter he wrote to the Wall Street Journal, which was published on Monday. The letter answered assertions by White House lawyer Lanny Davis, who suggested that Ms. Reno was right to decline to seek the independent counsel and "everyone else" was wrong. Thompson's letter said Davis "failed to mention that it was he who vetted Reno's nomination to be attorney general from the White House in February, 1993, and thus helped usher in Reno's justice." In a separate letter to FBI Director Louis Freeh, Thompson charged that Reno "uses call girls for sex and has a string of drunk driving incidents," which he said "can be substantiated" by earlier information he says he provided to FBI field agents. That information had no bearing on Reno's initial nomination process, Thompson said, because the FBI conducted "a phony background investigation" of her while former FBI Director William Sessions still held the post at the beginning of President Clinton's first term. "One of the most fruitful of these leads," Thompson wrote in his letter to Freeh, was "provided by a Crystal Kazim, who is an organized crime call girl" Thompson claims "provided sex to Renoon a regular basis." "Additionally," he said, "six police officers who pulled Reno over for drunk driving were never contacted by the FBI." Thompson did not provide the identity of those officers to the Journal. Furthermore, Thompson asserted, because of her background in "substance abuse and criminal sexual exploits...she can be blackmailed now by a president who is known to use dirt on people to bend their will." Thompson also told Freeh that he was willing to put his law license on the line to back up his claims. And he said he believes the Wall Street Journal also knows about the charges and has verified them, "otherwise they would not have published these incendiary words." Thus far there has been no comment from Ms. Reno, the Justice Department, or the White House. -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fwd: Fw: APC Sledgehammer (fwd) Date: 17 Aug 1998 11:21:00 PST On Aug 17, Blackfork@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] -----Original Message----- >American Policy Center >http://www.americanpolicy.org > >If you would like to be removed from this list visit: >http://www.webforums.com/forums/g-read/msa28.154.html > > >Please do not reply to this message, >replies are not read or kept by this system. > > >COURAGEOUS CONGRESSMAN MOVES TO STOP > >CLINTON'S EXECUTIVE ORDER 13083 > > > >HE NEEDS YOUR HELP NOW! > > > > Congressman Mac Collins of Georgia has >introduced House Concurrent Resolution 299 >(H.Con.Res. 299) to rescind Clinton's Executive >Order on Federalism. > > > > Executive Order 13083: > > > >* effectively Revokes the 10th Amendment to the >Constitution > > > >* gives the Federal government almost unlimited >power to enforce regulations on the states > > > >* gives the President power to implement >international UN treaties without Senate >ratification > > > >* gives the President power to send American troops >anywhere at his whim > > > >CONGRESSMAN COLLINS' "H.CON.RES.299" > >WILL STOP E.O.13083 > > > > He now has 31 cosponsors. But he needs many >more in order to get a floor vote. House Speaker >Newt Gingrich has said he supports the Resolution - >but may now be dragging his feet to enact it. > > > >THERE MUST BE A NATIONWIDE SURGE OF OUTRAGE AGAINST >E.O.13083 AND SUPPORT FOR H.CON.RES.299!!! > > > >ACTION TO TAKE: > > > >1. CALL HOUSE SPEAKER NEWT GINGRICH > >Tell the Speaker that you want E.O 13083 rescinded. >And tell him you want his support for H.Con.Res. >299. > > > > Speaker Gingrich's phone number: (202) 255-0600 >fax number: (202) 255-7753 > > > > JAM HIS PHONES LINES!! > > > >2. CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN: Urge him to sign on as a >co-sponsor to H.Con.Res.299 and rescind E.O 13083. >Capitol Switchboard: 202) 255-3121 (just ask for >your Congressman by name and you will be connected >to his office) > > > >3. CALL YOUR STATE'S GOVERNOR: He will lose his >powers if this Executive Order becomes law. Tell >your governor to file an immediate protest to House >Speaker Gingrich. Tell your governor to demand that >E.O. 13083 be rescinded. Also call your State >Representative with the same message. (For a list >of governors, with phone numbers and addresses - go >to the APC website at > >http:\\WWW.americanpolicy.org or call the American >Policy Center at (703) 925-0881) > > > >4. SEND THIS ALERT TO AT LEAST FIVE MORE PEOPLE > > > >SPEAKER NEWT GINGRICH MUST FEEL OUR HEAT - OR >H.CON.RES.299 WILL NOT PASS. > > > >CONGRESS MUST RESCIND E.O. 13083 BEFORE AUGUST 12TH >- OR IT WILL BECOME FEDERAL LAW. > > > >DON'T LET CLINTON GET AWAY WITH REVOKING THE 10TH >AMENDMENT. > > > >STOP IT NOW!!! > > > >Powered by Webforums >Copyright 1998 Waveshift Inc. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck Norgaard" Subject: Fw: The monster is not dead Some say long live the monster, I say "death to the monster NWO".........C. Date: 18 Aug 1998 01:05:33 -0700 ---------- MONDAY AUGUST 17, 1998 Geoff Metcalf can be heard Monday-Friday on KSFO, 560AM in Northern California. Visit his web site at: http://www/ksfo560.com/Personalities/GM.htm for information about his newsletter. Words Have Meaning Everyone who was upset by the president's Executive Order 13083 on federalism has been prematurely excited by the reported "suspension." Before we all throw our shoulders out of place patting ourselves on the back over the presumed revocation of Executive Order 13083, remember, the devil is in the details, and the battle isn't over -- yet. Words have meaning. There are more questions than answers regarding the "suspension" of Clinton's 10th Amendment-killing executive order. Here's some background: When President Reagan issued his Executive Order 12612, it reasserted and strengthened the power of the states to deal wit= h federal bureaucracy run amok. Clinton's insidious EO 13083, which he trie= d to sneak in while in Birmingham, England, states "Executive Order 12612 o= f October 26, 1987, and Executive order 12875 of October 26, 1993 are revoked." Words have meaning. Clinton's EO 13095 (which was the result of unbridled anger of state organizations, governors, talk radio and reporting on the Internet -- specifically WorldNetDaily) "suspends" the previous insult of E.O. 13083, but does not "unrevoke" Reagan's effort to strengthen the states. Words have meaning. The "suspension" order did not kill the previous contentiou= s order, and it is not a "do over," but rather a "time out." T.S. Eliot onc= e wrote: "There will be time, there will be time To prepare a face to meet the fac= es that you meet; There will be time to murder and create, And time for all the works and days of hands That lift and drop a question on your plate; Time for you and time for me, And time yet for a hundred indecisions And for a hundred visions and revisions." He went on to note in his poem Lovesong of J. Alfred Prufrock: "In a minute there is time For decisions and revisions which a minute wil= l reverse." Eliot was only in his mid-20s when he wrote those words, which could have= , or have been incorporated into the Bill Clinton Standing Operating Procedures manual. The Bill of Rights is under assault by semantics sleazebags who use time like both a scalpel and bludgeon. The same administration which calls tax= es "investments," and reportedly is attempting to create new definitions and distinctions for various sexual activity, has "suspended" but not revoked= a clearly unconstitutional executive order. Words have meaning. The dictionary definition (not the president's definition) of "suspended" is "temporarily debarred, inactive, inoperative, held in abeyance." "Revoke" however means (according to the dictionary) "reverse, repeal, rescind, recall." Clinton's actions have not rescinded his previous evil deed. The President has again embraced his standing operating procedure o= f delay, stall, stonewall, and obfuscate. Words have meaning, and the devil is always in the details of what is and is not said. Congress has introduced two bills to deal with the perfidy of the executi= ve branch. HCON 229 IH is supposed to express the "sense of Congress," and H= R 4196 IH by Bob Barr, in my opinion, does the job. Not surprisingly, the shorter is better. The most important and significant sentence in the Bar= r bill (HR 4196 IH ) states "LATER ORDER OF NO FORCE OR EFFECT -- Executive Order 13083, issued May 14, 1998, shall have no force or effect." The very mechanism of the executive order, and presidential decision directives are issues which have attracted attention and derision from bo= th talk radio and the Internet. However, (and this is a routine annoyance an= d frustration) Congress has the ability, but not the will to prevent the executive branch from "making law." Congress can, and should vote to reje= ct any and all executive orders which presume to make law. The framers specifically established three branches of government: Executive; Legislative; and the Judiciary. It is the job function of the Legislative branch to make law. Frankly, Congress should rebel against executive orders for territorial imperatives, regardless of petty partisa= n concerns or agendas. If Congress is prepared to hand over their legislative function to the Executive and Judicial branches, they are accepting pay under false pretenses. Do not be lulled into a false sense of confidence by the "suspension" of E.O. 13803. Urge your congresscritters to support the Bob Barr bill HR 41= 96 IH to revoke fully E.O. 13803 so that it "shall have no force or effect." Otherwise heed the words of Eliot, and remember: "In a minute there is time For decisions and revisions which a minute wil= l reverse." Send e-mail to Geoff Metcalf Go to Geoff Metcalf's Exclusives Archive Go = to WND Exclusives Archive Go to Page One =A9 1998 Western Journalism Center ---------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Ferris Subject: Humorous Newspaper Headlines We'd Like To See (SATIRE) Date: 18 Aug 1998 14:11:55 -0400 (EDT) THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE Mortified Marthas Flee Vineyard En Masse As Clinton Arrives To Search For Booty President's Private Wife Attacked In Oval Office By Flailing First Lady Presidentator Clinton Arrives On Martha's Vineyard With a Few Babes to Thrill President Restakes Claim To Private Wife But Keeps First Lady as Public One First Lady Starrs In Ginzu Knife Infomercial / President Afraid To Sleep President Bites Lower Lip While Viewing Spielberg's "Saving Private Lyin'" God's Lawyer Calls On Kendall To Advise Clinton to Cease Using God's Name Clinton Stars in Blockbuster Movie, "How Lyin' Fella Got His Groove Back" President Clinton's Support Undercut By New "Slashed White Thing Conspiracy" Female Supporters of President Form Conga Line at Oval Office For Their Turn Female Intern's Father Challenges Clinton To Boxing Match on White House Lawn Clinton Maintains He Still Believes In "On Her" Clinton States Desire To Leave Scandal Behind And To Do His Booty President Supports Taking (Others') Daughters At Work Day President Wants To Get Back and "Busy" With "The Job" Americans Pay Him To Do Tommy Lee Jones and U.S. Marshals Assigned To Protect All Females Taking White House Tours THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: A Poll You Might Want To Vote In (fwd) Date: 18 Aug 1998 18:34:50 PST On Aug 18, larry ball wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Here is a poll concerning the impeachment of our beloved president. We need some votes in favor of impeaching him. Go and vote. Here is the address - http://www.herald.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Ferris Subject: "Spice Boy" Clinton Sings "Wannabe" (SATIRE) Date: 19 Aug 1998 09:54:05 -0400 (EDT) THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE Sheer, unverified rumor has it that "Spice Boy" Clinton may have sung this Clintonized version of The Spice Girls' smash hit "Wannabe" to Monica Lewinsky during her job interview ... Starr could have this on tape ... ______________________________________________________________________________ Yo I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want, So tell me what you want, what you really really want, I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want, So tell me what you want, what you really really want, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really really really wanna zigzig ha. If you want my future forget my past, If you wanna get with me better make it fast, Now don't go wasting my precious time, Get your act together we could be just fine. I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want, So tell me what you want, what you really really want, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really really really wanna zigzig ha. If you wanna be my intern, you gotta get with Dem friends, Make it last forever, Dem friendship never ends, If you wanna be my intern, you have got to give, Taking is too easy, but that's the way it is. What do you think about that now you know how I feel, Say you can handle my love are you for real, I won't be hasty, I'll give you a try, If you really bug me then I'll say goodbye. Yo I'll tell you what I want, what I really really want, So tell me what you want, what you really really want, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna really really really wanna zigzig ha. If you wanna be my intern, you gotta get with Dem friends, Make it last forever, Dem friendship never ends, If you wanna be my intern, you have got to give, Taking is too easy, but that's the way it is. So here's a story from A to Z, you wanna get with me you gotta listen carefully, We got Mike McCurry who fronts for liar, me, And spinners for me, who from truth must always flee, HRC is a "just a thang" to me, 'though a real lady, and as for me you'll see, Slam your body down and wind it all around Slam your body down and wind it all around. If you wanna be my intern, you gotta get with Dem friends, Make it last forever Dem friendship never ends, If you wanna be my intern, you have got to give, Taking is too easy, but that's the way it is. If you wanna be my intern, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, slam, slam, slam, slam, Slam your body down and wind it all around, Slam your body down and wind it all around, Slam your body down and wind it all around, Slam your body down zigazig ah. If you wanna be my intern. (Now we know that Monica Lewinsky, indeed, got "the job" after eighteen months of relentless "interviewing") THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Fwd: Ballot Update: Volunteers Needed Date: 19 Aug 1998 22:12:43 -0400 >Date: Wed, 19 Aug 98 10:33:15 PDT >From: announce@lp.org >Subject: Ballot Update: Volunteers Needed >Sender: announce-request@lp.org >Reply-To: announce@lp.org >To: announce@lp.org (Libertarian Party announcements) >X-Mailer: mailout v1.26 released with lsendfix 1.8 > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > >VOLUNTEERS URGENTLY NEEDED TO DEFEAT REPUBLICAN ATTACK! > >LP BALLOT ACCESS IN ILLINOIS DEPENDS ON STRONG GRASSROOTS EFFORT. > > >Ballot Access Update 8/18/98 > >Libertarian Party activists in Illinois learned Monday from State >Election Board representatives that they will need 10-15 Libertarian >volunteers each day for at least the next two weeks (August 24-28 & >August 31-Sept 4) to defeat the Republican challenge of the Libertarian >ballot access petition. > >Despite filing a record 61,009 signatures to meet a 25,000 signature >requirement, the ballot access petition filed by the Libertarian Party >of Illinois is being challenged by the Republican Party. The >Republicans, in a desperate attempt to keep LP candidate Jim Tobin off >the ballot, are claiming that less than 20% of the signatures filed by >the LPI are valid. Internal checks by LP officials show a validity rate >well in excess of 60%. > >Beginning Monday, August 24 (tentatively), 10-15 teams from the State >Election Board will begin checking each of the signatures and petition >pages challenged by the Republicans. The LP must supply a >representative to each team to retain its right to appeal any adverse >rulings on individual signatures. > >If a member of an election board team rules a signature invalid, an LP >representative must immediately challenge the ruling. > >IF THERE IS NO LIBERTARIAN REPRESENTATIVE PRESENT TO CHALLENGE THE >RULING, THE RULING STANDS AND *CANNOT* BE APPEALED! > >The Republicans believe that we can't field enough Libertarians to >defend against their bogus challenge. We have to prove them wrong. > >The LP of Illinois is lining up as many local volunteers as they can. >However, there is a shortage of people available during regular >business hours, which is when the checking will take place. We >anticipate that additional help will be required to defeat the >Republican challenge. > >We don't know how many out-of-state people will be needed, but it is >vital that we find out who might be available ASAP. If you are >available and are asked to come and help, travel, lodging, and meals >will be provided. > >If you would be available to come to Illinois for one of the two weeks >and help win this vital battle for liberty, please contact Steve Givot >at LPI headquarters (312-360-1040, email givot@softwarena.com), Steve >Dasbach at the national office (202-333-0008 ext 228, email >stevedasbach@compuserve.com) or Ron Crickenberger at the national >office (202-333-0008 ext 227, email roncrickenberger@compuserve.com). > >If you can't volunteer your time to help, we urgently need your financial >support to help defeat this vicious attack by the Republicans against our >candidates. If you have a recent version of Netscape or Internet Explorer, >you can charge your contribution to your Visa or MasterCard online using >the form at "http://www.lp.org/lp-ballot-access.html". 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That Military satellite launch that blew up the other day may have had an RTG power source aboard. If so, the East Coast just got dusted with minute particles of Plutonium. Breath it and get Lung Cancer. Heard on the Art Bell Radio show this PM. If you're on the East Coast, and have a Geiger Counter, it might pay to dust it off. -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Fwd: "Mrs. Clinton's Defense of Impeachment," Date: 20 Aug 1998 07:15:07 -0400 >Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 01:41:08 -0400 >From: E Pluribus Unum >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) >To: E Pluribus Unum Email Distribution Network >Subject: "Mrs. Clinton's Defense of Impeachment," > >"Mrs. Clinton's Defense of Impeachment," >By Bob Barr, > >Dear Mrs. Clinton: > >In February 1974 the staff of the Nixon impeachment inquiry issued a >report produced by a group of lawyers and researchers assigned with >developing a scholar memorandum setting forth the "constitutional >grounds for presidential impeachment." > >You were a member of that group of lawyers and researchers, barely, I am >sure, able to conceal your dislike for President Nixon. Within the year, >Nixon would leave office disgraced , having witnessed articles of >impeachment voted against him by the House Judiciary Committee, based in >part on your report. > >Relevant Today > >I must give you and your colleagues credit. You did not appear to have >let personal animus influence your work product, at least not the final, >published report. In fact, the report you and your colleagues produced >appears objective, fair, well researched and consistent with other >materials reflecting and commenting on impeachment. And it is every bit >as relevant today as it was 23 years ago. > >I presume--but I must ask whether--you stand by your research and >analysis today. You said in 1974 that impeachment, as understood by the >framers of our constitution, reflected the long history of the term used >at least since late-14th-century England: "one of the tools used by the >English" to make government "more responsive and responsible" (page 4 of >your report). Your also noted then--clearly in response to those who >mistakenly claimed impeachment as a tool to correct "corruption in >office" that "alleged damage to the state," and was "not necessarily >limited to common law or statutory . . . Crimes" (page 7) > >You quoted James Wilson, who at the Pennsylvania ratification convention >described the executive (that is, the president) as not being above the >law, but rather "in his public character" subject to it "by impeachment" >(page 9) > >You also-quite correctly-noted then that the constitutional draftsmen >chose the terms describing the circumstances under which a president >could be impeached very carefully and deliberately. You noted that "high >crimes and misdemeanors" did not denote criminal offenses in the sense >that prosecutors employ such terms in modern trials. Rather, in your >well-researched memorandum, you correctly noted that the phrase "high >crimes and misdemeanors" as substituted for George Mason's less precise >term in an earlier draft of the Constitution: "Maladministration" (page >12 of your report). Not only that, but your further research led you to >quote Blackstone's "Commentaries on the Laws of England" in support of >your conclusion that "high crimes and misdemeanors" meant not a criminal >offense but an injury to the state or system of government (page 12). I >applaud the extent and clarity of your research. You even note that the >U.S. Supreme Court, in deciding questions of intent, must construe >phrases such as "high crimes and misdemeanors" not according to modern >usage, but >according to what the framers meant when they adopted them (page12 once >again). > >Magnificent research! > >Even Alexander Hamilton finds a place in your research. You quote from >his Federalist No. 65 that impeachment relates to "misconduct of public >men, or in other words, from the abuse or violation of public trust" >that is "of a nature . . .political [emphasis in original]" (page 13 of >your report). > >Finally, in bringing your research forward from the constitutional >drafting documents themselves, you find support for your properly broad >interpretation of "high crimes and misdemeanors" in no less a legal >scholar than Justice Joseph Story. I was in awe of your use of Justice >Story's "Commentaries on the Constitution" (1833) supporting your >proposition that "impeachment . . . applies to offenses of a political >character' . . . [that] must be examined upon very broad and >comprehensive principles of public policy and duty" (pages 16 and 17 of >your report). I could not have said it better. > >You even note that the specific instances on which impeachment has been >employed in our country's history "placed little emphasis on criminal >conduct" and were used to remove public officials who had "seriously >undermined public confidence" through their "course of conduct" (page >21). > >Clear Basis > >Mrs. Clinton, when I first raised the notion last month that the House >should take but the first step in determining whether impeachment might >lie against President Clinton for a pattern of abuse of office and >improper administration of his duties, little did I realize your >scholarly work 23 years ago would provide clear historical and legal >basis and precedent for my proposition. > >Amazingly, the words you used in your report are virtually identical to >those I use today. For example, you said in 1974, much as I did in my >March 11, 1997, letter to Judiciary Chairman Hyde, that "[i]mpeachment >is the first step in a remedial process" (page 24 of your report) to >correct "serious offenses" that "subvert" our government and "undermine >the integrity of office" (page 26) > >Thank you, Mrs. Clinton, for giving Congress a road map for beginning >our inquiry. > >Sincerely, >Bob Barr (R., GA.) >Member of Congress > >[Forwarded For Information Purposes Only - Not Necessarily Endorsed By >The Sender - A.K. Pritchard] > >[To be added to "The Republican" email list - simply ask at: >chiliast@ideasign.com] > >------------------------------ > > >A.K. Pritchard >http://www.ideasign.com/chiliast/ > > >"The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most >governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within >the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, >and when the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any >color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already >annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." > >-- Henry St. George Tucker, in Blackstone's 1768 >"Commentaries on the Laws of England." > >-- >****************************************************************** > E Pluribus Unum The Central Ohio Patriot Group > P.O. Box 791 Eventline/Voicemail: (614) 823-8499 > Grove City, OH 43123 > >Meetings: Monday Evenings, 7:30pm, Ryan's Steakhouse > 3635 W. Dublin-Granville Rd. (just East of Sawmill Rd.) > >http://www.infinet.com/~eplurib eplurib@infinet.com >****************************************************************** > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Fwd: ALERT! DRUDGE SAYS CLINTON ASKED NIXON TO RESIGN IN 1974 Date: 20 Aug 1998 07:17:28 -0400 >Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 01:45:01 -0400 >From: E Pluribus Unum >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) >To: E Pluribus Unum Email Distribution Network >Subject: ALERT! DRUDGE SAYS CLINTON ASKED NIXON TO RESIGN IN 1974 BECAUSE HE LIED > >DRUDGE REPORT >By Matt Drudge >Wed Aug 19 1998 21:27:35 ET > > >CLINTON: RESIGNATION! > >**Exclusive** >**Must Credit** > >It was another time. Another place. But the same man. > >"No question that an admission of making false statements to government >officials and interfering with the FBI is an impeachable offense." -- >Bill Clinton, ARKANSAS GAZETTE, August 8, 1974, page 7-A. > >That quote is just one of dozens the DRUDGE REPORT has now obtained -- >quotes that show Bill Clinton, in his own words, warning about the >dangers of leaving a man that has lied in the position of President of >the United States. > >Bill Clinton was running for a seat in the United States Congress in the >Summer of '74. In the early weeks of August, President Nixon was going >down in flames from events surrounding the Watergate scandal. At that >time, Nixon was refusing to respond to pressure from the Hill >demanding his resignation. > >Clinton was running for the seat held by Rep. John Paul Hammerschmidt >[R] -- a Nixon loyalist who was publicly supporting the president and >telling him to stay in office. > >"REPRESENTATIVE IS 'OUT OF STEP,' CLINTON CHARGES" was the headline in >the newspaper on August 8, 1974. > >In the wake of President Nixon's public admission that he had lied about >his role in Watergate, Clinton, then a law professor at the University >of Arkansas, said: > >"I think it is plain that the president should resign and spare the >country the agony of impeachment and removal proceedings." > >"I think the country could be spared a lot of agony... if he'd go on and >resign," Bill Clinton declared. > >The ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT, two days earlier -- August 6, 1974, page 10-A -- >quoted Bill Clinton again talking about the need for Nixon to leave >office: > >"Bill Clinton, Democratic candidate for the 3rd Congressional District, >said, "There is nothing left to say. There's no point putting this >country through an impeachment since [Nixon] isn't >making any pretense of innocence now... This country has suffered so >long." > >X X X X X >Reports are moved when circumstances warrant >(c)DRUDGE REPORT 1998 >Not for reproduction without permission of the author >-- >****************************************************************** > E Pluribus Unum The Central Ohio Patriot Group > P.O. Box 791 Eventline/Voicemail: (614) 823-8499 > Grove City, OH 43123 > >Meetings: Monday Evenings, 7:30pm, Ryan's Steakhouse > 3635 W. Dublin-Granville Rd. (just East of Sawmill Rd.) > >http://www.infinet.com/~eplurib eplurib@infinet.com >****************************************************************** > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: CIA trained Afghan bombers Date: 20 Aug 1998 08:07:03 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- The Financial Times THURSDAY AUGUST 20 1998=A0=A0 AFGHANISTAN: Rebels turn against the west By David Gardner, Middle East Editor When Saudi Arabia's National Guard communications centre in central Riyadh was bombed in November 1995, killing five of the US servicemen who ran it, the kingdom's first detectable response was to send Prince Turki bin Faisal, the Saudi intelligence chief, to Cairo. There he compared notes with Egypt's interior minister - Gen Hassan al-Alfi, sacked in disgrace after last November's Islamist massacre of tourists at Luxor - on a subject which had come to absorb a lot, but perhaps not enough, of their time: the "Arab Afghans". These are the Arab volunteers who fought alongside the Afghani Mujahideen in the 1980s war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and who, flush with Islamist zeal and the taste of victory against a superpower, then fanned out across the Middle East, the Balkans, and parts of south and central Asia and Africa. By 1992, battle-hardened Arab Afghans had returned home to lead Islamist guerrilla insurgencies in Algeria and Egypt; the four Saudis publicly beheaded in May 1996 for the Riyadh bombing were also allegedly trained in Afghanistan. When the US this week halved its embassy staff in Pakistan as a protective measure against further bomb attacks on American targets abroad, it was also acknowledging that neighbouring Afghanistan was and remains the incubator of the most uncompromising and anti-western Islamist fighters. Indeed, US investigators are working on the suspicion that the truck-bombings of Washington's embassies in Nairobi and Dar es-Salaam were ordered from Afghanistan, possibly by Osama bin Laden, the wealthy Saudi dissident who leads the Arab Afghans. He is believed to be still based in the Hindu Kush, under the protection of the Taliban militia which now controls most of Afghanistan. And he has declared war against America and its ally, Israel. In February, a new organisation sponsored by Mr bin Laden - the Islamic International Front for Fighting Jews and Crusaders, which includes leading Egyptian Islamist militants - announced it intended to attack US targets worldwide. The pan-Arab daily al-Hayat yesterday reported it had received a statement from this umbrella group pledging new "holy struggle operations" against the US. While the Arab Afghan saga has its origins in the cold war, it has become a post-cold war story of a deadly form of proliferation which the US, which oversaw the Afghani resistance to Soviet rule, has good reason to know something about. Probably tens of thousands of Arab volunteers were drafted into the jihad (holy war) against the Red Army, blessed and armed by the CIA, financed and nurtured by Saudi Arabia, with logistics and border support laid on by Pakistani intelligence. While this joint venture delivered a satisfyingly Vietnam-style humiliation to the crumbling Soviet empire, it also gave birth to a Frankenstein's monster: an itinerant army of holy warriors against the west and its Arab and Moslem allies. "The coming days will, God willing, see that America meets a black fate similar to what happened to the Soviet Union," the International Islamic Front's statement to al-Hayat said. The vague goals of the movement are to "liberate Moslem lands" by getting the US out of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf and Israel out of Jerusalem. For the Arab Afghans, and violent fundamentalists throughout the Moslem world, the defeat of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan was the harbinger of a new Islamic era, proof that religious zeal allied to advanced weapons technology can carry all before it. Thousands of Egyptians, Algerians and Yemenis, and hundreds of Sudanese, Palestinians and Jordanians, carried this message back to their countries. But the largest contingent of volunteers in the Afghan war was supplied by Saudi Arabia. At the time of the May 1996 executions in Riyadh, the Saudi newsweekly al-Majalla reassured readers that all but a few "infidels" among the kingdom's 20,000 Mujahideen had resumed normal lives. Nevertheless, the prime suspect in the still unsolved truck-bombing of the US base at al-Khobar in eastern Saudi Arabia the following month, which killed 19 Americans, is Mr bin Laden. According to a senior adviser to the Saudi court in the 1980s, the kingdom's brigade was organised by Saudi intelligence, in co-ordination with Mr bin Laden, at the time considered the pious heir to a construction fortune, but since then stripped of his Saudi citizenship. "There are 4,000 ex-Mujahideen in [the holy city of] Medina alone," says the former adviser, "and if they (Saudi intelligence) think they have them under control they are wrong." Egypt and Algeria were more alert to the danger once it emerged that the Gama'a al-Islamiya in the former and the Armed Islamic Group (GIA) in the latter were led by Arab Afghans. Responding to this alarm, and pressed by the US, Pakistan has periodically cracked down and deported former volunteers. One result was the suicide bombing of the Egyptian embassy in Islamabad in November 1995, and attacks on US citizens there since. Another was proliferation of the problem. Arab Afghan contingents, again often linked with Mr bin Laden, fought in Bosnia, in Chechnya and in Tajikistan. As well as maintaining bases in Afghanistan, they scattered to the Yemen, Somalia and Sudan - the latter two bordering east Africa, scene of the embassy bombings. The former Soviet republics of Central Asia are trying to develop a joint response to "Wahhabism" - the austere strain of Islam originating in Saudi Arabia which they associate with Arab Afghan-inspired militancy in their region. Despite all this, the US has been slow to respond. Washington's anti-terrorist policy has focused on state sponsors of terrorism, listing seven "rogue" states, among them Iran, Iraq, Libya, Sudan and Syria. The phenomenon it appears to be facing now, however, is more fragmented, offering no clear target for reprisals - but with an operational capability equivalent to state sponsorship, which the US itself is partly responsible for having provided through its Afghanistan venture. FBI investigators yesterday confirmed they had raided a hotel in Nairobi, where local reports say the embassy bomb was assembled. The raid follows Monday's extradition from Pakistan of Mohammed Sadiq Odeh, described in Islamabad newspapers as part of Mr bin Laden's Arab Afghan network, a Palestinian engineer expert in the US-supplied Stinger missiles which turned the tide of the Afghanistan war. US officials are still resolutely refusing to jump to any conclusions over the African embassy bombings, but must surely be rueing that episode of a now bygone era when their own cold warrior zeal led them to back probably the first army of Islamic holy warriors since the Middle Ages. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck Norgaard" Subject: Fw: DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE 8/19/98 Date: 20 Aug 1998 08:51:51 -0700 ---------- > From: preacher > To: chuckrn@aone.com > Subject: DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE 8/19/98 > Date: Wednesday, August 19, 1998 11:20 PM > > >X-From_: drudge@drudgereport.com Wed Aug 19 22:55:22 1998 > >From: drudge@drudgereport.com > >Date: Thu, 20 Aug 98 01:40:37 EST > >To: drudge@drudgereport.com > >Subject: DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE 8/19/98 > > > >XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX WED AUGUST 19, 1998 21:53:09 ET XXXXX > > > >CLINTON: RESIGNATION! > > > >**Exclusive** > >**Must Credit** > > > >It was another time. Another place. But the same man. > > > >"No question that an admission of making false statements to government > >officials and interfering with the FBI is an impeachable offense." -- Bill > >Clinton, ARKANSAS GAZETTE, August 8, 1974, page 7-A. > > > >That quote is just one of dozens the DRUDGE REPORT has now obtained -- > >quotes that show Bill Clinton, in his own words, warning about the dangers > >of leaving a man that has lied in the position of President of the United > >States. > > > >Bill Clinton was running for a seat in the United States Congress in the > >Summer of '74. In the early weeks of August, President Nixon was going > >down in flames from events surrounding the Watergate scandal. At that > >time, Nixon was refusing to respond to pressure from the Hill demanding his > >resignation. > > > >Clinton was running for the seat held by Rep. John Paul Hammerschmidt [R] -- > >a Nixon loyalist who was publicly supporting the president and telling him > >to stay in office. > > > >"REPRESENTATIVE IS 'OUT OF STEP,' CLINTON CHARGES" was the headline in the > >newspaper on August 8, 1974. > > > >In the wake of President Nixon's public admission that he had lied about his > >role in Watergate, Clinton, then a law professor at the University of > >Arkansas, said: > > > >"I think it is plain that the president should resign and spare the country > >the agony of impeachment and removal proceedings." > > > >"I think the country could be spared a lot of agony... if he'd go on and > >resign," Bill Clinton declared. > > > >The ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT, two days earlier -- August 6, 1974, page 10-A -- > >quoted Bill Clinton again talking about the need for Nixon to leave office: > > > >"Bill Clinton, Democratic candidate for the 3rd Congressional District, > >said, "There is nothing left to say. There's no point putting this country > >through an impeachment since [Nixon] isn't making any pretense of innocence > >now... This country has suffered so long." > > > >---------------------------------------------------- > >Filed by Matt Drudge > >For breaks and steaks: http://www.drudgereport.com > >Reports are moved when circumstances warrant > >(c)DRUDGE REPORT 1998 > >Not for reproduction without permission of the author > > > > > > > > > > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Re: * East Coast Alert * Date: 20 Aug 1998 10:54:02 -0700 Bill Vance wrote: > > *** ALERT! *** > > The following might be a hoax, but it falls into the best people know just > in case category. That Military satellite launch that blew up the other day > may have had an RTG power source aboard. If so, the East Coast just got > dusted with minute particles of Plutonium. Breath it and get Lung Cancer. > Heard on the Art Bell Radio show this PM. If you're on the East Coast, and > have a Geiger Counter, it might pay to dust it off. > The only people who even might be at risk are those immediately downwind of the original explosion. If the wind was blowing offshore (West to east), only the fish and plankton will get any exposure. If you observed the TV pictures of the explosion, all the smoke trails from burning debris suggested no substantial wind activity to disburse the dust, plutonium or otherwise. To suggest that the entire east coast could be affected is to imagine that plutonium is "magic stuff" exempt from the laws of physics, including gravity. Not so. Regards, Skip (former nuke) P.S. We breathe radioactive dust every day, a tiny bit left over from old nuclear tests, but far more of it from natural rock and rock products (sand, dust, etc.) To say "Breath it and get lung cancer" is also a gross exaggeration in the context of this scenario. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Clinton orders anti-terrorist strikes Date: 20 Aug 1998 11:02:58 -0700 Wag the Dog. Nuff said. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: Riding A "Dead Horse" - A Governmental Primer (fwd) Date: 20 Aug 1998 13:57:17 PST On Aug 20, Stephen B Clayton wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Although this came across from my Gems-And-Facets List, I thought the current administration might want to see this - it's pretty much "business as usual"..... Steve Clayton - Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Megilah Bereshith 12:2-3 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dakota Sioux tribal wisdom says that when you discover you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount. However, in business [or government - sbc], we often try other strategies with dead horses, including the following: > 1. Buying a stronger whip. > 2. Changing riders. > 3. Saying things like "This is the way we always have ridden this horse." > 4. Appointing a committee to study the horse. > 5. Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses. > 6. Increasing the standards to ride dead horses. > 7. Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse. > 8. Creating a training session to increase our riding ability. > 9. Comparing the state of dead horses in today's environment. > 10. Change the requirements declaring that "This horse is not dead." > 11. Hire contractors to ride the dead horse. > 12. Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed. > 13. Declaring that "No horse is too dead to beat" > 14. Providing additional funding to increase the horse's performance. > 15. Do a CA study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper. > 16. Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster. > 17. Declare the horse is "better, faster and cheaper" dead. > 18. Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses. > 19. Revisit the performance requirements for horses. > 20. Say this horse was procured with cost as an independent variable. > 21. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Liberty or Death Subject: >>> Wag That Afghanistan Dog!!! Date: 20 Aug 1998 17:45:21 -0700 A link you all ought to check out (especially those who have seen "Wag the Dog" - and those who haven't need to, soon). Written by a friend with a very inside track... http://www.nidlink.com/~akmoob/afghanistan.html - Monte Let the sea roar and its fulness, The world and those who dwell in it. Let the rivers clap their hands; Let the mountains sing together for joy before the Lord. For He is coming to judge the earth; He will judge the world with righteousness, And the peoples with equity. - Psalm 98 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Fwd: CIA - Alert Date: 22 Aug 1998 13:29:19 -0400 >From: Foolery@aol.com >Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:24:07 EDT >To: foolery@bright.net >Subject: Fwd: CIA - Alert >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 > > >From: MarkleyGun@aol.com >Return-path: >To: MarkleyGun@aol.com >Subject: CIA - Alert >Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:45:53 EDT >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >Greetings, > >I have been requested to forward this to you, I feel it something we as >Veterans can all get behind. And as non-Veterans, you can help too. > >A little while ago, Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson came out with a new CD >entitled "Storytellers". It's an excellant piece of work, especially Cash's >piece on it entitled "Drive On". Being a Veteran it hit me pretty good. >Where is this going you ask?? > >As you know, Willie is involved in Farm Aid, big time. This man earned my >respect when he told the IRS to take a hike, even though the IRS did get even >with him for it. Anyway, to the point.... > >A friend of mine that lives in Nashville has asked that I forward this Sit - >Rep to you and you take it from there. As a Veteran and an American, I feel >this is something we can all get behind and show this country we stand >together. OK Bobby Ross, here we go... >========================= >Hey LRRPs! > > The American Farmer is losing ground every day! > > As I hung up the phone last night after talking with Willie Nelson, >a huge surge of pride overtook me! Willie Nelson wants me to promote his >Farm Aid 13 to the American Veterans. In return, Willie is willing to go >to bat for us Veterans. > > We Veterans fought for our country on foreign soil. And all of us >Veterans still have enough fight left to battle for American Veteran >Farmers on our soil. > > We will not lose anymore ground! > > Willie told me that he feels strongly for American Farmers, of >course, and I told him many are Veterans. I made a deal with him. I said >I'd go to bat for him and the Farm Aid 13 and the American Farmer if he >would go to bat for the American Veteran Farmer. This is a good deal. >American Veterans need to help Willie Nelson save the ground we fought for! > > This is, of course, all part of the RAID! Many LRRPs are joining >the VHVC as "Founding Members". And many LRRPs are sending in the code >word: ADVANCE. The SPLASH is going great with the addition of many LRRPs >sending in the code word: RADIO. This is the 5th SPLASH Mission and we >are going to have one exciting Veterans Day this coming November 11th. > > OK, this is the deal with Willie Nelson's Farm Aid 13: > > We need to spread the word to our whole Veteran Community on this >one. Willie Nelson is one of the most unselfish Americans to live in the >20th Century. His caring for the American Farmer is a wonderful human gift >to all of us. We need to help him! This could be one great party, as >well. The concert date is October 3rd, 1998. The place for the concert is >not known at this time. There is a free telephone number where you can get >info. 1-800-FARM AID > > For more information on what we as American Veterans can do for >this wonderful event, send in the code word: FARM AID. I will add you to >the "loop" on this when I receive your code word. Plus, spread the word. >Send this sit-rep to everybody in your network. Let's back Willie Nelson >on this! If we do good, then Willie will have the opportunity to see just >how COOL American Veterans really are. And, perhaps, we can get a color >guard on the stage at Farm Aid 13! > >>PEACE, >>Bobby Ross >>bobbyros@nashville.net >>http://www.nashville.net/~bobbyros/lrrp.html > >>Echo Summit Music >>VETERANS HELPING VETERANS CONCERTS (llc) >>11 Music Square East >>Suite #501 >>Nashville, TN 37203 > >>Disabled American Veteran Web Design Company at: >>>http://www.telalink.net/~bobbyros/esw/webjsc2.htm > >>615 244-8725 > >FAX 615 353-8218 > >>SPLASH '98! > >>SALUTE TO AMERICAN VETERANS, THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS ON MEMORIAL DAY >>AND VETERANS DAY > > SPLASH 98! > AMERICAN VETERANS > OUR FREEDOM..OUR HISTORY..OUR FUTURE > AMERICA'S WAY OF LIFE! >========================= > >There it is, what do you think?? You can let me know, or go straight to >Bobby, he loves to talk to folks so don't be shy. Hope all is going well in >your camp...take care and watch your six. > >Back to Back, >Scott > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Fwd: CIA - Alert Date: 22 Aug 1998 11:47:59 PST While all this sorta sounds good, how about some details? I and most other Vets and other folks have no idea whatsoever what all these acronyms and code words are for, or what Farm Aid 13 is for or about. How reading through your post, making a list off them, and offering some sort of explaination.........? On Aug 22, Tom Cloyes wrote: >>From: Foolery@aol.com >>Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:24:07 EDT >>To: foolery@bright.net >>Subject: Fwd: CIA - Alert >>X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 >> >> >>From: MarkleyGun@aol.com >>Return-path: >>To: MarkleyGun@aol.com >>Subject: CIA - Alert >>Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:45:53 EDT >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >> >>Greetings, >> >>I have been requested to forward this to you, I feel it something we as >>Veterans can all get behind. And as non-Veterans, you can help too. >> >>A little while ago, Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson came out with a new CD >>entitled "Storytellers". It's an excellant piece of work, especially Cash's >>piece on it entitled "Drive On". Being a Veteran it hit me pretty good. >>Where is this going you ask?? >> >>As you know, Willie is involved in Farm Aid, big time. This man earned my >>respect when he told the IRS to take a hike, even though the IRS did get even >>with him for it. Anyway, to the point.... >> >>A friend of mine that lives in Nashville has asked that I forward this Sit - >>Rep to you and you take it from there. As a Veteran and an American, I feel >>this is something we can all get behind and show this country we stand >>together. OK Bobby Ross, here we go... >>========================= >>Hey LRRPs! >> >> The American Farmer is losing ground every day! >> >> As I hung up the phone last night after talking with Willie Nelson, >>a huge surge of pride overtook me! Willie Nelson wants me to promote his >>Farm Aid 13 to the American Veterans. In return, Willie is willing to go >>to bat for us Veterans. >> >> We Veterans fought for our country on foreign soil. And all of us >>Veterans still have enough fight left to battle for American Veteran >>Farmers on our soil. >> >> We will not lose anymore ground! >> >> Willie told me that he feels strongly for American Farmers, of >>course, and I told him many are Veterans. I made a deal with him. I said >>I'd go to bat for him and the Farm Aid 13 and the American Farmer if he >>would go to bat for the American Veteran Farmer. This is a good deal. >>American Veterans need to help Willie Nelson save the ground we fought for! >> >> This is, of course, all part of the RAID! Many LRRPs are joining >>the VHVC as "Founding Members". And many LRRPs are sending in the code >>word: ADVANCE. The SPLASH is going great with the addition of many LRRPs >>sending in the code word: RADIO. This is the 5th SPLASH Mission and we >>are going to have one exciting Veterans Day this coming November 11th. >> >> OK, this is the deal with Willie Nelson's Farm Aid 13: >> >> We need to spread the word to our whole Veteran Community on this >>one. Willie Nelson is one of the most unselfish Americans to live in the >>20th Century. His caring for the American Farmer is a wonderful human gift >>to all of us. We need to help him! This could be one great party, as >>well. The concert date is October 3rd, 1998. The place for the concert is >>not known at this time. There is a free telephone number where you can get >>info. 1-800-FARM AID >> >> For more information on what we as American Veterans can do for >>this wonderful event, send in the code word: FARM AID. I will add you to >>the "loop" on this when I receive your code word. Plus, spread the word. >>Send this sit-rep to everybody in your network. Let's back Willie Nelson >>on this! If we do good, then Willie will have the opportunity to see just >>how COOL American Veterans really are. And, perhaps, we can get a color >>guard on the stage at Farm Aid 13! >> >>>PEACE, >>>Bobby Ross >>>bobbyros@nashville.net >>>http://www.nashville.net/~bobbyros/lrrp.html >> >>>Echo Summit Music >>>VETERANS HELPING VETERANS CONCERTS (llc) >>>11 Music Square East >>>Suite #501 >>>Nashville, TN 37203 >> >>>Disabled American Veteran Web Design Company at: >>>>http://www.telalink.net/~bobbyros/esw/webjsc2.htm >> >>>615 244-8725 >> >>FAX 615 353-8218 >> >>>SPLASH '98! >> >>>SALUTE TO AMERICAN VETERANS, THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS ON MEMORIAL DAY >>>AND VETERANS DAY >> >> SPLASH 98! >> AMERICAN VETERANS >> OUR FREEDOM..OUR HISTORY..OUR FUTURE >> AMERICA'S WAY OF LIFE! >>========================= >> >>There it is, what do you think?? You can let me know, or go straight to >>Bobby, he loves to talk to folks so don't be shy. Hope all is going well in >>your camp...take care and watch your six. >> >>Back to Back, >>Scott -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Re: Fwd: CIA - Alert Date: 23 Aug 1998 09:18:49 -0400 This email was forwarded to me for information purposes. If you would like more information about this event, or would like to participate in some way, either call 1-800-FARM-AID, or email bobbyros@nashville.net. I have no other information concerning this other than the initial email, so I'm as much in the dark about these code words as you are. Tom At 11:47 AM 8/22/98 -0800, you wrote: >While all this sorta sounds good, how about some details? I and most other >Vets and other folks have no idea whatsoever what all these acronyms and >code words are for, or what Farm Aid 13 is for or about. How reading >through your post, making a list off them, and offering some sort of >explaination.........? > >On Aug 22, Tom Cloyes wrote: > >>>From: Foolery@aol.com >>>Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:24:07 EDT >>>To: foolery@bright.net >>>Subject: Fwd: CIA - Alert >>>X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 >>> >>> >>>From: MarkleyGun@aol.com >>>Return-path: >>>To: MarkleyGun@aol.com >>>Subject: CIA - Alert >>>Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:45:53 EDT >>>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>>Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>>Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >>> >>>Greetings, >>> >>>I have been requested to forward this to you, I feel it something we as >>>Veterans can all get behind. And as non-Veterans, you can help too. >>> >>>A little while ago, Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson came out with a new CD >>>entitled "Storytellers". It's an excellant piece of work, especially Cash's >>>piece on it entitled "Drive On". Being a Veteran it hit me pretty good. >>>Where is this going you ask?? >>> >>>As you know, Willie is involved in Farm Aid, big time. This man earned my >>>respect when he told the IRS to take a hike, even though the IRS did get even >>>with him for it. Anyway, to the point.... >>> >>>A friend of mine that lives in Nashville has asked that I forward this Sit - >>>Rep to you and you take it from there. As a Veteran and an American, I feel >>>this is something we can all get behind and show this country we stand >>>together. OK Bobby Ross, here we go... >>>========================= >>>Hey LRRPs! >>> >>> The American Farmer is losing ground every day! >>> >>> As I hung up the phone last night after talking with Willie Nelson, >>>a huge surge of pride overtook me! Willie Nelson wants me to promote his >>>Farm Aid 13 to the American Veterans. In return, Willie is willing to go >>>to bat for us Veterans. >>> >>> We Veterans fought for our country on foreign soil. And all of us >>>Veterans still have enough fight left to battle for American Veteran >>>Farmers on our soil. >>> >>> We will not lose anymore ground! >>> >>> Willie told me that he feels strongly for American Farmers, of >>>course, and I told him many are Veterans. I made a deal with him. I said >>>I'd go to bat for him and the Farm Aid 13 and the American Farmer if he >>>would go to bat for the American Veteran Farmer. This is a good deal. >>>American Veterans need to help Willie Nelson save the ground we fought for! >>> >>> This is, of course, all part of the RAID! Many LRRPs are joining >>>the VHVC as "Founding Members". And many LRRPs are sending in the code >>>word: ADVANCE. The SPLASH is going great with the addition of many LRRPs >>>sending in the code word: RADIO. This is the 5th SPLASH Mission and we >>>are going to have one exciting Veterans Day this coming November 11th. >>> >>> OK, this is the deal with Willie Nelson's Farm Aid 13: >>> >>> We need to spread the word to our whole Veteran Community on this >>>one. Willie Nelson is one of the most unselfish Americans to live in the >>>20th Century. His caring for the American Farmer is a wonderful human gift >>>to all of us. We need to help him! This could be one great party, as >>>well. The concert date is October 3rd, 1998. The place for the concert is >>>not known at this time. There is a free telephone number where you can get >>>info. 1-800-FARM AID >>> >>> For more information on what we as American Veterans can do for >>>this wonderful event, send in the code word: FARM AID. I will add you to >>>the "loop" on this when I receive your code word. Plus, spread the word. >>>Send this sit-rep to everybody in your network. Let's back Willie Nelson >>>on this! If we do good, then Willie will have the opportunity to see just >>>how COOL American Veterans really are. And, perhaps, we can get a color >>>guard on the stage at Farm Aid 13! >>> >>>>PEACE, >>>>Bobby Ross >>>>bobbyros@nashville.net >>>>http://www.nashville.net/~bobbyros/lrrp.html >>> >>>>Echo Summit Music >>>>VETERANS HELPING VETERANS CONCERTS (llc) >>>>11 Music Square East >>>>Suite #501 >>>>Nashville, TN 37203 >>> >>>>Disabled American Veteran Web Design Company at: >>>>>http://www.telalink.net/~bobbyros/esw/webjsc2.htm >>> >>>>615 244-8725 >>> >>>FAX 615 353-8218 >>> >>>>SPLASH '98! >>> >>>>SALUTE TO AMERICAN VETERANS, THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS ON MEMORIAL DAY >>>>AND VETERANS DAY >>> >>> SPLASH 98! >>> AMERICAN VETERANS >>> OUR FREEDOM..OUR HISTORY..OUR FUTURE >>> AMERICA'S WAY OF LIFE! >>>========================= >>> >>>There it is, what do you think?? You can let me know, or go straight to >>>Bobby, he loves to talk to folks so don't be shy. Hope all is going well in >>>your camp...take care and watch your six. >>> >>>Back to Back, >>>Scott > >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- >An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no >weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his >hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a >on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > >- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck Norgaard" Subject: Fw: Survival is Not a Spectator Sport learn about the NWO, regionalisim, Newstates Constitution, etc. Date: 23 Aug 1998 10:58:48 -0700 ---------- > From: Committee to Restore the Constitution > To: Recipient List Suppressed:; > Subject: Survival is Not a Spectator Sport > Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 9:33 AM > > SURVIVAL IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT > > Cyberspace is surfeited with 'messages of alarm' anguishing over the latest > outrage foisted on Americans by the men and the system engaged in a > conspiracy to overthrow the Constitution and erect a United Nations 'new > world order' on ruins of the Republic. > > The more daring instruct their readers to write a letter of protest to > their Congressman, a person more likely than not to be an agent of the > mattoid elite who have seized control of policy-making and conflict > management in the United States Government. > > Never do these authors of 'public education' postings on the Internet offer > a solution to the problems they 'expose'. > > Result is a neutralized computer community convinced that resistance to > tyranny is futile. (Socialist moles on the Internet encourage this > defeatist attitude) > > It must be clear, however, that a population under siege and perpetually on > defense, is doomed to ultimate subjugation. Somewhere, somehow American > victims of unending attack must counterattack. > > Final transfer of the United States and her people into a socialist 'one > world government' managed by the International banking cartel is happening > in your lifetime. (See European Union and EU monetary system) > > Impending national disaster demands intelligent acceptance of facts behind > the crisis. And, it requires courageous marshalling of men, women and > resources to take whatever action is necessary to expose and defeat the > sick-brained men who have sentenced our people to a socialist animal farm. > > NEEDED IS A PLAN OF OPERATIONS > > On 5 August 1998 Committee to Restore the Constitution posted e-mail alert > to 1,500 individuals and national media outlets proposing a solution to the > seditious conspiracy of Federal Regional Government. (Regional Government > seeks to seize control of all property in the United States, both public > and private, to be administered by a central authority in Washington, i.e.: > communized as in Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) > > Committee Plan of Operations, headed "The Republic: Decline and Future > Promise" with sub-head "THE SILENT REVOLUTION OF FEDERAL REGIONALISM - A > SOLUTION" offers lawful rejection of the communized America planned for > you and your family. > > Documenting the rise and progress of regional governance, the Committee > reveals how you can harness powers of County and State governments to > restore freedoms of person and property guaranteed to you by the > Constitution. > > In addition to procedural instruction, text includes "County Resolution > Rejecting Regional Government" and "Bill to Provide for Enforcement of the > Constitution of the United States With Regard to Federal Regionalism". Both > County Resolution and State Bill prepared by Attorney T. David Horton, > Counsel, Committee to Restore the Constitution. ("Bill" provides criminal > sanctions for persons found guilty of violating State law) > > Successful in Indiana, the citizen-initiated Plan of Operations can reverse > the mindless march to the new feudalism and make a place for you and your > descendants in tomorrow's America. > > SURVIVAL IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT > > Needed are men and women who will examine the Committee 'Plan of > Operations' and form a citizen cadre to press for adoption of "County > Resolution Rejecting Regional Government" by their County Commission. > > Participate in the campaign to enforce basic principles originally embodied > in the Constitution of the United States. Your future depends on it. > > Begin your mission by sending your name and address. Ask for 'Plan of > Operations' to oust 'regionalism' from your community. Enclose $1.00 for > postage. > > Packet you will receive includes 6-page 'operations manual' with list of > documents indicting members of Congress and the President as > co-conspirators in plan to overthrow the Constitution and 'communize' > America; step-by-step instruction on launching mission rejecting regional > governance in your community; Bill to 'criminalize' regional operations in > your State. Additional evidence for the prosecution detailed in three > Committee intelligence reports detailing rise and progress of Regional > Governance and destruction of freedoms of person and property guaranteed to > the people by the Constitution. > > Transform 'spectatorship' to 'participation' in the mission to halt the > 'communizing of America' before the window of opportunity slams shut. > > Archibald E. Roberts, LtCol, AUS, ret, Director > COMMITTEE TO RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION, Inc. > Post Office Box 986 Fort Collins, Colorado USA 80522 > Website: http://webaccess.net/~comminc > Subject: "Federal Regional Government - A Solution" > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chuck Norgaard" Subject: getting informed, getting active, or giving up.......Fight or Flee......... Date: 23 Aug 1998 12:32:49 -0700 If you really want to find out just what these Revolutionaries are up to for the last 100 years, but especially since 1910 forward then go to the following web site, get informed. You have influence, use it. The committee to restore the Constitution can be found at::::::::::::::www.webaccess.net/~comminc/ If the American people really knew just how bad things really are in this country they would rise up in revolt. The media in all its tentacles has kept the people ignorant, or just written about sex scandles etc. Also the last two issues ot the Spotlight News paper, Aug. 17 & 24 have excellent arcticles on the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report and just how the Feds, States, counties, and Cities are using our monies to invest in the bond markets, equity markets, world currency markets. Essentially, the government leaders......LEADERS have been working on total FINANCIAL CONTROL as the means to subjucate all of us by a plutocratic oligarcy....into a NEW WORLD ORDER if you will a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. The Web site for the CAFR Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports can be found at::::http://financenet.gov/financenet/state/cafr.htm. The media and all its tentacles has been a partner in keeping the public ignorant about how the various Govt. agencies keep from the people just how they are manipulating our financial affairs. Get informed, get active, you have influence use it or ........LEAD FOLLOW OR GET OUT OF THE WAY. V.I. Lenin said it well " We in the communist movement dont worry about a few thousand business men or professionals with their fancey high grade shotguns or rifles... what scares the hell out of us is ten Million farmers with hunting rifles." Now just why in hell do you suppose all these usefull idiots in the media, govt. politicians etc want to disarm the people of the world so badly huh???????? Duhaaaaaaaa Jeee I donoooooo. Gimme a break folks. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: RAPTUS: Fwd: [FP] DOT extends comment period on National ID (fwd) Date: 23 Aug 1998 14:56:25 PST On Aug 23, Sarah wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ====================================================================== SCAN THIS NEWS 8/21/98 DOT extends comment period for letters in objection to the National ID The DOT has extended the comment period for letters of objection to the national ID. If you did not submit your comments already, prior to the previous August 3, deadline, no sweat, you can still let your opinions be know. Comments will now be accepted up until October 2, 1998. Don't delay. Express yourself! Send yours in this weekend. More info can, of course, be found at: http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint.shtml And, you can keep up with how many letters have be submitted at: http://dms.dot.gov:70/owa_dms8/owa/search Under "Agency" enter "NHTSA" Under "CY" (Calendar Year) enter "1998" Under "Docket ID" enter "3945" And under "Subcat[agory]" enter "Rulemaking" Then, hit "Search" At last count, over 1280 letters had been submitted. Folks, that's an impressive number of letters! I was personally hoping for at least a thousand. We exceeded that number, and the count is still rising. Federal Regulations typically only garner a couple of responses, if any at all. The DOT will now have to analyze all objections and then publish their conclusions in the Federal Register. This should be an education (for us and them) in and of itself. Take this chance to speak up now. Scott --------------- DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION National Highway Traffic Safety Administration 23 CFR Part 1331 [Docket No. NHTSA-98-3945] RIN 2127-AG91 State-Issued Driver's Licenses and Comparable Identification Documents AGENCY: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), DOT. ACTION: Notice of proposed rulemaking; reopening of comment period. SUMMARY: The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) published a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) on June 17, 1998, in which the agency proposed regulations to implement section 656(b) of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996--State Issued Driver's Licenses and Comparable Identification Documents. The comment period for the NPRM closed on August 3, 1998. In response to requests for an extension of the comment period, NHTSA is reopening the comment period and extending it until October 2, 1998. DATES: Comments must be received by October 2, 1998. ADDRESSES: Written comments should refer to the docket number and the number of this notice, and be submitted (preferably two copies) to: Docket Management, Room PL-401, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Nassif Building, 400 Seventh Street, SW, Washington, DC 20590. (Docket hours are Monday-Friday, 10 a.m. to 5 p.m., excluding Federal holidays.) FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Mr. William Holden, Chief, Driver Register and Traffic Records Division, NTS-32, NHTSA, 400 Seventh Street, SW, Washington, DC 20590; telephone (202) 366-4800, or Ms. Heidi L. Coleman, Assistant Chief Counsel for General Law, NCC-30, NHTSA, 400 Seventh Street, SW, Washington, DC 20590; telephone (202) 366-1834. SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: On September 30, 1996, the Omnibus Consolidated Appropriations Act for Fiscal Year 1997, P.L. 104-208, was signed into law. Included in the Omnibus Act were the provisions of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 (hereinafter, the ``Immigration Reform Act''). Section 656(b) of the Act, entitled State-Issued Driver's Licenses and Comparable Identification Documents, provides that, after October 1, 2000, Federal agencies may not accept as proof of identity driver's licenses or other comparable identification documents, issued by a State, unless the driver's license or identification document conforms to certain requirements. Section 656(b) establishes three requirements that State issued driver's licenses or other comparable identification documents must meet to be acceptable to Federal agencies as proof of identity. The requirements concern the application process for driver's licenses and identification documents, the form of driver's licenses and identification documents (including security features) and the use of social security numbers on driver's licenses and identification documents. On June 17, 1998 (63 FR 33220), the agency published a proposed rule to implement these statutory requirements. Interested persons were invited to provide comments on the proposed rule on or before August 3, 1998. Since that time it has come to the agency's attention that there is considerable public interest in the proposed regulations. NHTSA has received numerous requests from interested individuals for an extension of the comment period in order to have sufficient time to review the proposal and prepare comments. In addition, on July 29, 1998, concerns regarding the agency's proposed rule were expressed in the U.S. House of Representatives by Congressman Barr of Georgia; Congressman Smith of Texas, Chairman of the Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims; and Congressman Paul of Texas. To address these concerns, Congressman Wolf of Virginia, Chairman of the Transportation Subcommittee of the House Committee on Appropriations, suggested that a meeting take place with NHTSA officials. Congressional Record, July 29, 1998, H6736-7. A meeting was held on August 4, 1998, in the Office of the Transportation Subcommittee of the House Committee on Appropriations. Congressman Barr, Chairman Smith and Congressman Paul, Congressional staff members and NHTSA representatives attended the meeting. At the meeting, the agency was asked to consider reopening the comment period for this rulemaking action, to permit all interested parties to have sufficient time to consider the agency's proposal and to provide their written comments. After considering these requests, NHTSA has concluded that it is in the public interest to allow additional time for comments. Accordingly, the agency is reopening the comment period until October 2, 1998. During this reopened comment period, it is not necessary for commenters to resubmit views that have already been expressed in previous comments. Authority: Pub. L. 104-208, 110 Stat. 3009-716 (5 U.S.C. 301) delegation of authority at 49 CFR 1.50. Issued on: August 14, 1998. Philip R. Recht, Deputy Administrator, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. [FR Doc. 98-22314 Filed 8-18-98; 8:45 am] BILLING CODE 4910-59-P --------------- Thanks to Michele at Ignition Point for forwarding this along to me. --------------- -----Original Message----- [mailto:believer@telepath.com] Sent: Friday, August 21, 1998 Reply to: ======================================================================= To subscribe to the free Scan This News newsletter, send a message to and type "subscribe scan" in the BODY. Or, to be removed type "unsubscribe scan" in the message BODY. For additional instructions see www.efga.org/about/maillist.html "Scan This News" is Sponsored by S.C.A.N. Host of the "FIGHT THE FINGERPRINT!" web page: www.networkusa.org/fingerprint.shtml ======================================================================= [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Ferris Subject: NOW Apprehends Domestic Errorist President Kleentone Pawing Another Female Intern (SATIRE) Date: 23 Aug 1998 23:05:05 -0400 (EDT) THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE (Noban News Service 23 Aug 1998) In a lightning-like raid on the White House Oval Office, chastity-belted, vested agents from NOW's Female Intern Rescue Team (FIRT) burst in to rescue a nineteen year old female intern who was being pawed sexually by President Wee Willie Kleentone, the charismatic but amoral leader of a cult of spin cycling, over-empowered, white house domestic errorists who are said to often grope vulnerable female government employees as they (the gropers) chant the cult's mantra, "Mistakes were made ... mistakes were made ..." and as they sway to the beat of demonic organ music played by James Baby You Can Drive My Carville and to mystical prayers mumbled by The Reverend Jesse Not The Jackson Five. This surreal raid scene was right out of the Hollywood film "Pauliana Jones and The Temple of Boom-Boom" ... Kleentonista-Thuggee cult members and all, although Kleentone and his followers were not lowering any female interns into a fiery pit when the FIRT team, sex predator stun guns at the ready, dynamically entered Sodom on the Potomac. NOW spokesperson Heeza Letchher, surrounded by bodyguards at a post-raid press conference, commented in the wake of this decisive action, "NOW has taken President Kleentone, one of the nations's most dangerous domestic errorists, out of circulation. Domestic errorists, who sexually harass and physically abuse innocent females behind closed doors and then claim that such egregious misconduct is just part of (their) 'private lives', are power-seeking, mentally ill cowards who seek to dominate American women through use of force. We within NOW will not allow that to happen. We will stop domestic errorists in their tracks, bring them to courts which will hold them 'personally responsible' for abuse of women, and then we will watch with glee as judges ship them off to prisons where Planned (Boyz N The) Parenthood proctologists will bite their lower lips, smirk and say, 'Why, it do take a diverse inmate village to please a Kleentonista domestic errorist!'" Foist Lady Heelaree Rodhim Kleentone, when first advised of the terribly embarrassing consequences of the aforementioned NOW raid, commented, "This latest attempt to humiliate my husband is just part of a Fast Night Thing Conspiracy involving rogue NOW extremists who worked for womens rights at one time and who simply do not like natives of Arkansas, The Citadel, grits, Stonewall Jackson Jefferson Davis Kleentone or 'fast' girls." (Wink, wink.) When asked how President "Slee-Z" Kleentone's popularity in the polls could be explained logically, the Foist lady reflected for a moment and then said, "An objective look at certain U.S. historical events may well provide us with an example of what should happen now ... when Ku Klux Klan members in both Mississippi and Alabama were terrorizing, torturing and murdering innocent African-American citizens and young civil rights workers during the mid-1960s, many of the twenty three members of state law enforcement agencies who were later exposed by the FBI as having been either KKK backers or full-fledged KKK members or KKK leaders opined, in the very same words used today by our horde of White House public relations spin meister apologists: "Way too much money is being spent on these silly, needless, endless investigations of cases of missing, uppity blacks and Yankee carpetbaggers. It's time to put this behind us and to allow us to go back to work, to run the government, to do the job the people hired us to do ..." At the time, many poll-taking citizens in Mississippi and Alabama agreed with that pragmatic assessment of life, that their state governments, even if they contained some 'good ol' boys' who occasionally raped or murdered while 'having a little fun', had to continue functioning at all costs, for the good of society. In the same way, my patriotic husband Willie, even when thoroughly exhausted after 'taking a village' of interns, wants to get back to the important business of running this Country, as frightened females of this Country are running from him. Above all, this President is, I assure you, not a domestic errorist. 'Hard at work' on 'position papers' in the Oval Office at all hours, he knows what he does and he does what he knows. And he now knows, having seen the true (media) light, that Monica's a child, not a choice." THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE THIS IS A SATIRE - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: America Stands Indicted! (fwd) Date: 23 Aug 1998 20:21:15 PST Looks like the, "character", of Clinton's Legacy just took a turn for the worse. Assuming the following article proves out, he'll go down in History as a junior grade cheap immatation a. Hitler b. Hirohito c. combination of the above Needless to say, if it proves true, he's got to be jailed, and for life. If Gore tries to free him, then Gore has to be jailed as well. Any other scenario simply invites the nastiest War ever seen, and _WE'LL_ be the bad guys! On Aug 23, Gene Crocker wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] America Stands Indicted by Gene Crocker, Ph.D. radman5@wolnet.com "The question is one of character. Not Clinton's character but ourcharacter; our character as a nation and as individual voters. And, if the answer is Bill Clinton, we all fail." Mark Hearne, 10/11/96 - 1 - Evidence is coming in from the world press that the El Shifa Pharmaceutical Industries factory in Khartoum may be just what it claimed to be - a company that produces antibiotics and vaccines sold (at a 10th of the price in America or Europe) to Africa and the Middle East - 2 - Since the attack, Sudan has repeatedly demanded that the UN send in bio- chemical teams to inspect the ruined factory. If the factory has been producing chemicals for nerve gas as the Clinton administration claims, chemical residue tests will prove or disprove this allegation. Today, the Sudanese government also invited Jimmy Carter and bipartisan representatives from the US Congress to inspect the site and view the graves of those killed in the attack. They must go! The American people and the people of the world must know the truth! - 3 - We have been indicted in the eyes of the world for Clinton's Pearl Harbor style attacks. You and I have the absolute right to know if we are unwitting accomplices to murder. No copyright, please distribute. Dr Crocker is a medically retired physicist who worked for the University of California and later as an international consultant in applied medical radiation. Trained in scientific investigation, he spends his retirement doing internet research and writing. Notes: 1. An essay worth reading in its entirety by Mark F. Hearne, in "The Case for character" October 11, 1996 I would have preferred Mr. Hearne to have also looked into the corrupt political baggage that Mr. Dole carries with him. http://www-personal.umich.edu/~brandog/files/character.html 2. U.K. May Have Evidence Linking Bin Laden to Africa Bombings, Reuters, 2.50 p.m. ET (1850 GMT) August 23, 1998, http://foxnews.com/world/082398/strikesside.sml 3. Sudan Seeks Probe of U.S. Chemical Weapons Claim, Reuters, 12.29 p.m. ET (1629 GMT) August 23, 1998. http://foxnews.com/nav/top-ns4.sml God Bless [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: AMERICA STANDS INDICTED (fwd) Date: 24 Aug 1998 00:10:33 PST On Aug 24, Bill Vance wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] On Aug 24, larry ball wrote: >Bill Vance, I hope you repost this to ROC. I read ROC, but cannot post >to ROC. Someone should ask him to fix that for me. Done. I'll let your sentence above do the talking there. Chances are your problem is something simple like like your address not matching the one on the list server. >But the original message was posted to NOBAN by Gene Crocker. So I am >answering his post here. [snip] I categorically agree, Sudan is not populated by good guys(tm). My point however, still stands. Assuming Gene Crocker's contention is true, then we, the whole Country, has to act, and soon. Whether he did the right thing to Sudan or not simply doesn't count if the company blown up is innocent of making Nerve Gas. If it is innocent of that charge, then it's proof that Clinton is too unstable/crazy to command, period. Once again, _if_ the company is innocent of the charge, then this is our tiger, and it's time to jump on, grab it's ears and ride! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: Mrs. Clintons 1974 report on impeachment of Nixon Date: 24 Aug 1998 07:35:28 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- An open letter to Hillary Dear Mrs. Clinton: In February 1974 the staff of the Nixon impeachment inquiry issued a report produced by a group of lawyers and researchers assigned with developing a scholar memorandum setting forth the "constitutional grounds for presidential impeachment." You were a member of that group of lawyers and researchers, barely, I am sure, able to conceal your dislike for President Nixon. Within the year, Nixon would leave office disgraced , having witnessed articles of impeachment voted against him by the House Judiciary Committee, based in part on your report. Relevant Today I must give you and your colleagues credit. You did not appear to have let personal animus influence your work product, at least not the final, published report. In fact, the report you and your colleagues produced appears objective, fair, well researched and consistent with other materials reflecting and commenting on impeachment. And it is every bit as relevant today as it was 23 years ago. I presume -- but I must ask whether -- you stand by your research and analysis today. You said in 1974 that impeachment, as understood by the framers of our constitution, reflected the long history of the term used at least since late-14th-century England: "one of the tools used by the English" to make government "more responsive and responsible" (page 4 of your report). You also noted then -- clearly in response to those who mistakenly claimed impeachment as a tool to correct "corruption in office" that "alleged damage to the state," was "not necessarily limited to common law or statutory ... Crimes" (page 7) You quoted James Wilson, who at the Pennsylvania ratification convention described the executive (that is, the president) as not being above the law, but rather "in his public character" subject to it "by impeachment" (page 9) You also -- quite correctly -- noted then that the constitutional draftsmen chose the terms describing the circumstances under which a president could be impeached very carefully and deliberately. You noted that "high crimes and misdemeanors" did not denote criminal offenses in the sense that prosecutors employ such terms in modern trials. Rather, in your well-researched memorandum, you correctly noted that the phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" was substituted for George Mason's less precise term in an earlier draft of the Constitution: "Maladministration" (page 12 of your report). Not only that, but your further research led you to quote Blackstone's "Commentaries on the Laws of England" in support of your conclusion that "high crimes and misdemeanors" meant not a criminal offense but an injury to the state or system of government (page 12). I applaud the extent and clarity of your research. You even note that the U.S. Supreme Court, in deciding questions of intent, must construe phrases such as "high crimes and misdemeanors" not according to modern usage, but according to what the framers meant when they adopted them (page 12 once again). Magnificent research! Even Alexander Hamilton finds a place in your research. You quote from his Federalist No. 65 that impeachment relates to "misconduct of public men, or in other words, from the abuse or violation of public trust" that is "of a nature ... POLITICAL [emphasis in original]" (page 13 of your report). Finally, in bringing your research forward from the constitutional drafting documents themselves, you find support for your properly broad interpretation of "high crimes and misdemeanors" in no less a legal scholar than Justice Joseph Story. I was in awe of your use of Justice Story's "Commentaries on the Constitution" (1833) supporting your proposition that "impeachment ... applies to offenses of a political character ... [that] must be examined upon very broad and comprehensive principles of public policy and duty" (pages 16 and 17 of your report). I could not have said it better. You even note that the specific instances on which impeachment has been employed in our country's history "placed little emphasis on criminal conduct" and were used to remove public officials who had "seriously undermined public confidence" through their "course of conduct" (page 21). Clear Basis Mrs. Clinton, when I first raised the notion last month that the House should take but the first step in determining whether impeachment might lie against President Clinton for a pattern of abuse of office and improper administration of his duties, little did I realize your scholarly work 23 years ago would provide clear historical and legal basis and precedent for my proposition. Amazingly, the words you used in your report are virtually identical to those I use today. For example, you said in 1974, much as I did in my March 11, 1997, letter to Judiciary Chairman Hyde, that "[i]mpeachment is the first step in a remedial process" (page 24 of your report) to correct "serious offenses" that "subvert" our government and "undermine the integrity of office" (page 26). Thank you, Mrs. Clinton, for giving Congress a road map for beginning our inquiry. Sincerely, Bob Barr (R., GA.) Member of Congress ========================================================================== This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Impeach Clinton poll (fwd) Date: 24 Aug 1998 19:03:17 PST On Aug 24, tking3 wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] TK New impeach Clinton poll; http://nt.excite.com/poll/ "If a President of the United States ever lied to the American people he should resign." -Bill Clinton,1974 running for U.S. House.- Patriots are not revolutionaries trying to overthrow government. Patriots are counter-revolutionaries trying to prevent government from overthrowing the U.S. Constitution. ************************************************** "Find out just what people will submit to,and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them; and these will continue until they are resisted with either words or blows,or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress."... Frederick Douglass. ************************************************** The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it. John Hay:Castilian Days,II,1872 "We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history,the stage of rule by brute force." -Ayn Rand- The Nature of Govt' Pray history doesn't record Chicken Little as having actually been a Y2K optimist. TK [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chuck Scanland Subject: Grenier Editorial - The long history of living in terror Date: 25 Aug 1998 13:00:15 -0500 This ran in today's Washington Times: http://www.washtimes.com/opinion/grenier.html Mr. Grenier makes several interesting points here - 1) Americans are currently unprepared to wage a war in which "collateral damage" is likely. 2) America is already at war with Islamic fundamentalism. and 3) It's going to get a lot worse. Chuck ============================================================================ ====== "The fact is that the American people have almost completely lost their warlike spirit." The long history of living in terror By Richard Grenier THE WASHINGTON TIMES Now to all who think we've very recently entered a new age, the age of terrorism -- where innocent civilians have suddenly become victims of terrorist attacks -- I have a simple question: what are the civilians so afraid of in Lord Byron's following evocation of battle? "And near, the beat of the alarming drum / Roused up the soldier ere the Morning Star; / While thronged the citizens with terror dumb, / Or whispering with white lips -- 'The foe! They come! They come!' " My question is just what are the poor citizens (civilians) afraid of? The battle evoked took place during the Napoleonic Wars almost 200 years ago. Both parties, dominantly French and British, were civilized, weren't they? Assuredly they wouldn't harm innocent civilians. But of this, judging by their "white lips," the citizens don't seem confident. And what of the Cossacks, who during the Napoleonic wars laughingly burned thousands to death in the Russian retreat from Moscow? Or left thousands of other Russians without shelter to freeze to death in the coming winter? Or, if you'd like a change of scenery, how about the nearly three-quarters of the total German population that perished during the 30 Years War (while the Pilgrims were settling Massachusetts)? For the fact of the matter is that until quite recently, despite Auschwitz, we've been living in a relatively brief hiatus in the history of war which, until perhaps a century or so back -- and this since forever -- was an uninterrupted tale of carnage, killing, destruction, rape, pillage, looting, murder, kidnapping, extortion, vandalism, incendiarism and gratuitous mayhem. This is the way the high-culture ancient Greeks fought wars, and (obviously) the Romans, Saracens, Crusaders and Nordic invaders. What happened to Carthage? When the Romans got through with it there was not a blade of grass left. In America we suffer from the widespread delusion that the relative peacefulness we've enjoyed for decades (and without even a missile defense system) should by rights last forever. But it won't. Some years ago Samuel Huntington of Harvard predicted that the coming great world conflict would be between the West and Islam. For no matter how kindly we behave --or no matter how well most of the Islamic population behaves --we're separated by a gulf in material affluence that is bound to incite extreme resentment. We, a technologically advanced society, make at least some efforts to help those less advanced. But those less advanced don't forgive us for being rich. Personally, I'd advise President Clinton, if he has the moral stamina, to make not one anti-terrorist speech, but dozens. The fact is that the American people have almost completely lost their warlike spirit. And the danger is they think the terrorist attacks at Khartoum and Dar es Salam are flukes. Osama bin Laden himself has promised they are only the beginning. And I'm prepared to take his word that, in plain fact, a war is now afoot between America and Islamic fundamentalism. And also, still according to bin Laden (along with Hezbollah, Hamas,etc.) that the Islamic Jihad will fight this war for decades, and with no holds barred. After all, as an Islamic fundamentalist once told me in Algeria, "When you bombed the Germans during World War II, you never counted the innocent civilians you killed. What Americans were worried about collateral damage then?" One result of the protracted period of peace we've enjoyed in America (augmented by remains of certain attitudes from the Vietnam anti-war movement) is that we simply cannot bear to kill civilians. Our adversaries of course don't mind in the least killing civilians. In fact, as one told me on a recent occasion, killing innocent women and children shows the strength of their feelings. But God forbid American weapons should produce "collateral damage." This is not the attitude of a nation ready forwar, and a war, furthermore, with no visible end. America is heading into the most morally difficult conflict in our history, and to all appearances we need some toughening up. A single resentful presidential speech the night after Islamic fundamentalists bomb another American embassy isn't enough. Nor is a single day of mourning for the American dead. Before this thing is over, we're likely to lose quite a few more dead, and the country must be prepared for it. And we must prepare in ways we've usually reserved for all-out war. Richard Haas, director for foreign affairs at the Brookings Institution, recently made some recommendations, some of which will surely curdle the blood of conventional liberals. We must make a much greater effort to obtain intelligence abroad. We must make more intensive our supervision of our own citizens (one can imagine how the ACLU will like this). And -- here we tread on the most dangerous ground -- we must on good intelligence engage in what the intelligence community calls "anticipatory defense" -- or, in plain language, hit them before they hit us. Before rushing to condemn such seemingly aggressive behavior we should recall that many members of our intelligence community consider that we've been lucking out for years. They're astonished that our enemies have so far used only conventional explosives in strikes on embassies, when their money gives them access to biological, chemical and nuclear weapons as well. Nuclear weapons or their ingredients produced by the late Soviet Union (or North Korea) are apparently going for bargain-basement prices. A major preemptive strike against some rogue Taliban-controlled state -- with dead women and children all about --would of course set off a terrific moral ruckus in America. But imagine the ruckus that would be set off if such a state set off a nuclear device in California. This is now the world we live in. ========================================================= Trebuchet Systems Inc. Systems and Network Management Platforms http://www.trebsys.com Chuck Scanland - ScanlanC@TrebSys.com ========================================================= - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: Grenier Editorial - The long history of living in terror Date: 25 Aug 1998 14:24:55 -0400 (EDT) > > Richard Haas, director for foreign affairs at the Brookings Institution, >recently made some recommendations, some of which will surely curdle the >blood of conventional liberals. We must make a much greater effort to obtain >intelligence abroad. We must make more intensive our supervision of our >own citizens (one can imagine how the ACLU will like this). And -- here we >tread on the most dangerous ground -- we must on good intelligence engage in >what the intelligence community calls "anticipatory defense" -- or, in plain >language, hit them before they hit us. > "We must make more intensive supervision of our own citizens" Interesting choice of words. One supervises children and workers not trusted to do the job without someone watching. How long before it becomes "more intensive surveillance of our own citizens"? I seem to recall an ACLU report from several years ago that found that the greatest threat to U.S. civil liberties was NBC terrorism. Just imagine a credible threat of a nuke in a U.S. city. There would be armed door-to-door searches, National Guard and Army control of entry/egress from the city, etc. etc. Posse Commitatus, search and seizure, 2nd amendment, due process, etc. out the window in a heartbeat. ciao, jcurtis - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chuck Scanland Subject: Re: Grenier Editorial - The long history of living in terror Date: 25 Aug 1998 13:52:54 -0500 Just look what the Brits/Irish (not the greatest of examples, I know) are doing as a result of the Omagh bombing. According to an article in Today's Electronic Telegraph, Tony Blair wants to recall (reconvene) Parliament in order to institute "the toughest anti-terrorist measures for the whole of the island of Ireland . . . that we've ever seen" Does anyone doubt that there would be an intensive push here to curtail liberties and enhance police/military powers with an increase in domestic incidents? It's going to be awful hard making yourself heard shouting about individual liberties and 4th Am. rights above the wailing of the mourners in the aftermath. This does not look good. And I'll be dam**d if I see a way past it. Chuck At 02:24 PM 8/25/98 -0400, John Curtis wrote: [snips] > "We must make more intensive supervision of our own > citizens" > > Interesting choice of words. One supervises children and > workers not trusted to do the job without someone watching. > > How long before it becomes "more intensive surveillance of > our own citizens"? > > I seem to recall an ACLU report from several years ago that > found that the greatest threat to U.S. civil liberties was > NBC terrorism. Just imagine a credible threat of a nuke in > a U.S. city. There would be armed door-to-door searches, > National Guard and Army control of entry/egress from the city, > etc. etc. Posse Commitatus, search and seizure, 2nd amendment, > due process, etc. out the window in a heartbeat. > > ciao, > > jcurtis > > > > >- > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Grenier Editorial - The long history of living in terror Date: 25 Aug 1998 16:13:40 PST The answer is obvious: Go the Israeli/Swiss route, with incentives like removing all taxes, limitations, and restrictions on Arms ownership/sales/ ammo/training etc. Of course this will also mean hanging a few Gun Grabbers, Multi-Culturalists, and other Socialist types so they get the message, but small loss. IT will also mean that people will have to start taking the Millitia Act seriously again, with the Military supplying a Training Cadre, but that's all to the good. Terrorists are basically Criminals who try to justify themselves with a Political axe to grind. When Criminals do not fear the Law, they must be made to fear the People. On Aug 25, Chuck Scanland wrote: >Just look what the Brits/Irish (not the greatest of examples, I know) are >doing as a result of the Omagh bombing. According to an article in Today's >Electronic Telegraph, Tony Blair wants to recall (reconvene) Parliament in >order to institute "the toughest anti-terrorist measures for the whole >of the island of Ireland . . . that we've ever seen" > >Does anyone doubt that there would be an intensive push here to curtail >liberties and enhance police/military powers with an increase in domestic >incidents? > >It's going to be awful hard making yourself heard shouting about >individual liberties and 4th Am. rights above the wailing of the >mourners in the aftermath. > >This does not look good. And I'll be dam**d if I see a way past it. > >Chuck > >At 02:24 PM 8/25/98 -0400, John Curtis wrote: >[snips] >> "We must make more intensive supervision of our own >> citizens" >> >> Interesting choice of words. One supervises children and >> workers not trusted to do the job without someone watching. >> >> How long before it becomes "more intensive surveillance of >> our own citizens"? >> >> I seem to recall an ACLU report from several years ago that >> found that the greatest threat to U.S. civil liberties was >> NBC terrorism. Just imagine a credible threat of a nuke in >> a U.S. city. There would be armed door-to-door searches, >> National Guard and Army control of entry/egress from the city, >> etc. etc. Posse Commitatus, search and seizure, 2nd amendment, >> due process, etc. out the window in a heartbeat. >> >> ciao, >> >> jcurtis -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Boyd Subject: Re: Grenier Editorial - The long history of living in terror Date: 25 Aug 1998 17:44:43 -0700 (PDT) I hope this isn't too small a nit to pick here, but I hope anyone asserting that we are already at war with "islamic fundamentalism" will either reconsider thier phrasing or speak for themselves. I have -no- problem with members of Islam be they fundamentalist or no. And there are billions of Islamic people around the planet who have no problem with us. We can't cut through the evil propaganda of class hatred if we adopt it's rhetoric with words like: "But those less advanced don't forgive us for being rich." wich asserts so many stereotypes about the US and Islam (one being that they're exclusive) as to be impossible to refute in a small email. We have -no- argument with people for being "Islamic" or for being "poor" nor should we accept that argument from them, let alone put it in their mouths like this. By doing it we lend credence to the sort of spinmasters who propagandize these small groups into self destruction (thinking particularly of Iraq IMHO). I do have a problem with anyone who initiates violence and judging by our recent act of war (not a war until declared such by the peoples congress) so does our (monarchic seeming) president, leaving aside my alarm at his unwillingness to publicize our proof that the site -was- actually an NBC factory, connected to Ladin and his failure to advise congress. Anyway, if we're going to be killing people, or have our president pushing that button I think we owe it to ourselves to be extremely accurate in the words that describe the why's and wherefores. Just my opinion. Boyd Kneeland, fundamentally Christian, but not overly so ; ) At 1:00 PM -0500 8/25/98, Chuck Scanland wrote: >This ran in today's Washington Times: >http://www.washtimes.com/opinion/grenier.html > >Mr. Grenier makes several interesting points here - 1) Americans are >currently >unprepared to wage a war in which "collateral damage" is likely. 2) America is >already at war with Islamic fundamentalism. and 3) It's going to get a lot >worse. > >Chuck >============================================================================ >====== > >"The fact is that the American people have almost completely lost their >warlike spirit." > >The long history of living in terror > >By Richard Grenier >THE WASHINGTON TIMES > > Now to all who think we've very recently entered a new age, the age of >terrorism -- where innocent civilians have suddenly become victims of >terrorist attacks -- I have a simple question: what are the civilians so >afraid of in Lord Byron's following evocation of battle? > > "And near, the beat of the alarming drum / Roused up the soldier ere >the Morning Star; / While thronged the citizens with terror dumb, / Or >whispering with white lips -- 'The foe! They come! They come!' " > > My question is just what are the poor citizens (civilians) afraid of? >The battle evoked took place during the Napoleonic Wars almost 200 years ago. >Both parties, dominantly French and British, were civilized, weren't they? >Assuredly they wouldn't harm innocent civilians. But of this, judging by >their "white lips," the citizens don't seem confident. > > And what of the Cossacks, who during the Napoleonic wars laughingly >burned thousands to death in the Russian retreat from Moscow? Or left >thousands of other Russians without shelter to freeze to death in the coming >winter? Or, if you'd like a change of scenery, how about the nearly >three-quarters of the total German population that perished during the >30 Years War (while the Pilgrims were settling Massachusetts)? > > For the fact of the matter is that until quite recently, >despite Auschwitz, we've been living in a relatively brief hiatus in >the history of war which, until perhaps a century or so back -- and this >since >forever -- was an uninterrupted tale of carnage, killing, destruction, rape, >pillage, looting, murder, kidnapping, extortion, vandalism, incendiarism and >gratuitous mayhem. This is the way the high-culture ancient Greeks fought >wars, and (obviously) the Romans, Saracens, Crusaders and Nordic invaders. >What happened to Carthage? When the Romans got through with it there was not >a blade of grass left. > > In America we suffer from the widespread delusion that the relative >peacefulness we've enjoyed for decades (and without even a missile defense >system) should by rights last forever. But it won't. Some years ago Samuel >Huntington of Harvard predicted that the coming great world conflict would >be between the West and Islam. For no matter how kindly we behave --or no >matter how well most of the Islamic population behaves --we're separated by a >gulf in material affluence that is bound to incite extreme resentment. We, a >technologically advanced society, make at least some efforts to help those >less advanced. But those less advanced don't forgive us for being rich. > > Personally, I'd advise President Clinton, if he has the moral stamina, >to make not one anti-terrorist speech, but dozens. The fact is that the >American people have almost completely lost their warlike spirit. And the >danger is they think the terrorist attacks at Khartoum and Dar es Salam are >flukes. Osama bin Laden himself has promised they are only the beginning. >And I'm prepared to take his word that, in plain fact, a war is now afoot >between America and Islamic fundamentalism. And also, still according to bin >Laden (along with Hezbollah, Hamas,etc.) that the Islamic Jihad will fight >this war for decades, and with no holds barred. > > After all, as an Islamic fundamentalist once told me in Algeria, "When >you bombed the Germans during World War II, you never counted the innocent >civilians you killed. What Americans were worried about collateral damage >then?" One result of the protracted period of peace we've enjoyed in America >(augmented by remains of certain attitudes from the Vietnam anti-war >movement) is that we simply cannot bear to kill civilians. Our adversaries of >course don't mind in the least killing civilians. In fact, as one told me on >a recent occasion, killing innocent women and children shows the strength of >their feelings. But God forbid American weapons should produce "collateral >damage." This is not the attitude of a nation ready forwar, and a war, >furthermore, with no visible end. > > America is heading into the most morally difficult conflict in our >history, and to all appearances we need some toughening up. A single >resentful presidential speech the night after Islamic fundamentalists bomb >another American embassy isn't enough. Nor is a single day of mourning for >the American dead. Before this thing is over, we're likely to lose quite a >few more dead, and the country must be prepared for it. And we must prepare >in >ways we've usually reserved for all-out war. > > Richard Haas, director for foreign affairs at the Brookings Institution, >recently made some recommendations, some of which will surely curdle the >blood of conventional liberals. We must make a much greater effort to obtain >intelligence abroad. We must make more intensive our supervision of our >own citizens (one can imagine how the ACLU will like this). And -- here we >tread on the most dangerous ground -- we must on good intelligence engage in >what the intelligence community calls "anticipatory defense" -- or, in plain >language, hit them before they hit us. > > Before rushing to condemn such seemingly aggressive behavior we should >recall that many members of our intelligence community consider that we've >been lucking out for years. They're astonished that our enemies have so far >used only conventional explosives in strikes on embassies, when their money >gives them access to biological, chemical and nuclear weapons as well. >Nuclear weapons or their ingredients produced by the late Soviet Union (or >North Korea) are apparently going for bargain-basement prices. > > A major preemptive strike against some rogue Taliban-controlled state -- >with dead women and children all about --would of course set off a terrific >moral ruckus in America. But imagine the ruckus that would be set off if such >a state set off a nuclear device in California. This is now the world we >live in. > >========================================================= > Trebuchet Systems Inc. > Systems and Network Management Platforms > http://www.trebsys.com > Chuck Scanland - ScanlanC@TrebSys.com >========================================================= > >- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: CLINTON MENTAL BREAKDOWN FORESEEN BY CIA? (fwd) Date: 26 Aug 1998 14:17:22 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- With all of the speculation now occurring concerning Clinton's mental state [no balanced individual sends a volley of cruise missiles on a murderous mission to a known innocent, civilian target!], we thought we'd contribute this intriguing extract from the May, 1996, issue of the NEW WORLD ORDER INTELLIGENCE UPDATE, which appeared as part of a lengthy and fascinating article entitled "The Suspiciously-Convenient Death Of U.S. Commerce Secretary Ron Brown" - the first report anywhere to allege, with factual backing, that his death was deliberate foul play. A portion of that article can be read on our Web site at: http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley/brown.htm, and back issue copies are still available. The same issue also contained a lengthy article entitled "Back To The U.S.S.R. - With A Vengeance!", which predicted exactly what is currently beginning to occur in Russia and which contains a horrifying and graphic expert intelligence analysis of what will yet occur there. A portion of that article can be read on our Web site at: http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley/russ.htm. You can order a copy of the complete May, 1996, issue directly from that Web page, too, if you wish. ___________________________________________________ THE FOLLOWING ITEM IS ABSTRACTED FROM THE MAY, 1996, ISSUE OF THE "NEW WORLD ORDER INTELLIGENCE UPDATE" [http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley] "Clinton Cocaine Video Surfaces In Little Rock" "Free Speech Newspaper, based in Phoenix, Arizona, has announced that it has obtained exclusive information from a source associated with the Arkansas State Police in Little Rock that a sensational video of then Governor Bill Clinton involving the illicit use of the drug cocaine will be released to the media nationally during the week of the 14th April. They also intend to reproduce stills taken from the video in their newspaper. The video tape clearly depicts then Governor Bill Clinton sitting at a table in front of an ashtray with a substantial amount of cocaine in the presence of Dan Lassiter and other well known and prominent Arkansas personalities. The black and white video tape has been verified as authentic and is further corroborated by witness statements. For additional support of the video tape, sources linked to the Arkansas State Police maintain that a series of surreptitious video and audio recordings allegedly obtained by former Arkansas security employees of Bill Clinton will be released. The release of the tapes may be made with the tacit consent of key Washington D.C. Democrats who are said to be seeking a quick resignation of President Bill Clinton in favour of Vice President Al Gore." That prompted us to go back to our files, where we remembered having stored this intriguing item from another source two years ago: Five months into Clinton's Presidency, on May 25th 1993, a special briefing was reportedly presented to Congress in answer to the question: "Will Clinton resign?" The scientist who presented the report, a specialist in brain chemistry and a CIA expert, said: "[We] cannot be conclusively sure without urine and blood tests, but [we believe that] Clinton shows every symptom of severe neuro-transmitter depletion, primarily noradrenaline and dopamine [these are natural chemicals that nerve cells in the brain use to communicate with each other]. Noradrenaline is used in the brain every time you have to make a quick decision; dopamine is required for non-automatic or effortful memory" [note: these chemicals are depleted in the brains of, among other people, those who use cocaine. Readers might wish to consult our Mena page, at http://www.inforamp.net/~jwhitley/mena.htm, to see if President Clinton falls into this category]. "Clinton's insomnia [note: no Clinton medical records have ever been made public] and flights of ideas that keep him up all night, his bounce of manic energy, his micro-managing all decisions in his Administration, his increasingly fractured syntax when speaking, and the obvious and growing impairment of his judgement, causing non-stop blunders and scandals, all indicate this neuro-chemical condition. Further, Clinton also strongly displays symptoms of a psychological syndrome known as "hysteroid dysphoria". Description of this personality type is given in a paper by Leibowitz and Kline in A JOURNAL OF PSYCHIATRIC CLINICS OF NORTH AMERICA, Vol 2, December 1979: "Hysteroid disphorics are pathologically dependent upon external approval, spending much of their time seeking applause, attention and praise, while having an extreme intolerance of personal rejection. They are often obsessively promiscuous, they enter work situations with great enthusiasm and energy, but if they feel rejection or insufficient praise they quickly lose their enthusiasm and depression, often very severe, sets in." Putting both of these neuro-psychological conditions together, our scientists predict that Clinton is clearly headed for a nervous breakdown, rendering him mentally incapacitated for the Presidency. In the meantime, certain of our friends in the intelligence community are now speculating that Clinton's Presidency is ultimately doomed, that the combination of impending economic disaster, up-coming major scandals [note: remember, this is May, 1993!] and overall bumbling incompetence will result in Democratic party leaders in Congress calling for Clinton's resignation so that they won't be swept away in '94 and '96. As the Clinton Presidency disintegrates, a stupendous battle looms between Hillary and the intellectual Left on one side, and Al Gore and the Democratic party leadership on the other. Mrs Clinton will wish to govern in her incapacitated husband's stead, much as Eleanor Roosevelt or Edith Wilson did in the last days of their sick husband's Presidencies, not willing to lose the Senate outright and, effectively, the House, with enough new Republicans to have a majority when combined with conservative Democrats. George Mitchell, Tom Foley and other party leaders will want to dump the Clinton albatross and have Al Gore assume the Presidency, offering new leadership to the nation." This Congressional briefing reportedly came from THE FREEDOM RESEARCH FOUNDATION, in MACLEAN, VIRGINIA [right next to CIA headquarters!]. The briefer, and the group briefed, remain anonymous. Reports indicate that these conditions result from certain medications given over an extended period of time. His "condition", apparently, results in his medical records being "a secret". Were the Bilderbergers not aware of this when they invited Clinton to join, and promoted his Presidential campaign? Was he "set up" to fall? And, if rumours are true about brewing scandals in his "successor's" [Al Gore's] past, would such a crisis not provide innumerable opportunities for changes or "improvements" in the political system - for example, through a Constitutional Convention or a National Emergency?" 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For print reproduction permission call John Whitley, Editor of the NEW WORLD ORDER INTELLIGENCE UPDATE, at 416-481 4868 or e-mail jwhitley@inforamp.net] - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: Bill Clinton and the Cherry Tree (fwd) Date: 26 Aug 1998 17:15:08 -0500 (CDT) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- http://www.wildershow.com This is from a Christian Radio show in Dallas. Bill Clinton and the Cherry Tree "George Washington, did YOU chop down the cherry tree?" "No, Dad." "I think you are lying." "No, no, no! I swear I did NOT chop down the cherry tree." "Son, I saw you out here with your axe. Your punishment will be much worse for you if you lie. Now, tell me the truth!" "I did tell you the truth. Honest." (seven months later...) "Dad, I answered your question truthfully. Still, I must take complete responsibility for all my actions. While my answer was legally accurate, I did not volunteer information. "Indeed, Dad, I did cause the cherry tree to be lying on the ground. To do this was wrong. It constituted a critical lapse in judgment and a personal failure on my part for which I am solely and completely responsible. "I know my answer to you gave a false impression. I misled you, my own father. I deeply regret that. "I can only tell you I was motivated by many factors. First, by a desire to protect myself from the embarrassment of my own conduct. "I was also very concerned about protecting Mom from this shock. "What I did, Dad, was use a saw to cause the cherry tree to fall. Only after the tree was already down did I go get my axe to chop off individual branches. So, I chopped off branches, but sawed down the tree. Look at the saw cut on the stump and the axe cuts on the branches. Therefore, legally, I told the truth. "I ask you to turn away from the spectacle of this fallen tree and to return our attention to a solid family relationship." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: CNN Has More Than Hurricane Bonnie To Contend With Wednesday (fwd) Date: 26 Aug 1998 18:42:18 PST On Aug 26, Robin Arthur Gustavson wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >Return-Path: >From: admin@hackworth.com >X-Sender: hwadmin@mail.cyberport.net >Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:48:52 -0600 >To: (Recipient list suppressed) >Subject: CNN Has More Than Hurricane Bonnie To Contend With Wednesday=20 >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by mail1.rcsntx.swbell.net id SAA06613 > >CNN Has More Than Hurricane Bonnie To Contend With Wednesday=20 > > Atlanta, GA, Aug, 26th=85 CNN executives and staffers minds may be on the >pending hurricane, but on Wednesday, August 26th, they are going to come >face-to-face with some of the Vietnam War veterans which they had earlier >this year branded as "War Criminals".=20 > > The veterans, most of whom represent the now-famous MACVSOG and other >Special Forces units in Vietnam, their friends and families promise an >entirely peaceful demonstration of their dissatisfaction of CNN and >Time-Warner=92s handling of their erroneous, patently false, and= subsequently >totally discredited, production of "Tailwind - Valley of Death" story. > > The veterans' charge that CNN & Time-Warner have not acted responsibly, >fairly nor in any good faith whatsoever in correcting their Tailwind story >errors and omissions. > > The issues are essentially those which CNN had promised the Special Forces >and Special Operations Associations they would do. Standard things that a >media organization must do when they have wronged and defamed an honorable >and honest group of people. > > The veterans' demands are very straightforward -- > > * An apology for the wanton defamation of their character, integrity and >conduct during their service in the Vietnam War. A genuine and sincere >public apology for CNN=92s egregious errors in this story. Ted Turner has >stated that he owes them a public apology, but he has not gotten around to >making it. The group will visit his headquarters Wednesday, fully expecting >to collect on this debt. And to see it broadcast in the same manner as the >original story.=20 > > * A REAL retraction to the reckless disregard for the truth they >demonstrated in the original Operation Tailwind story. Not a wimpy, lame >"We can=92t prove it at this time=85" statement. That is not a retraction, >that's further insult. A front page retraction that starts with "We were >wrong and we=92re sorry" retraction is what the vets are demanding.=20 > > * The removal of ALL offending and conspiratorial staff involved in the >production of this libelous program. Minimally this must include Rick >Kaplan and Peter Arnett. Continuation of their retention at CNN is >absolutely intolerable to the veteran community. This is certainly not the >first offense for either of them.=20 > > * Equal Air Time to correct the damages which CNN has done to all Vietnam >War veterans. To show the real Operation Tailwind story and correct the >misnomers about all veterans which this kind of story perpetuates. =91Equal >air time=92 means prime time Sunday night=85 just as the original lies were >broadcast and not once, but twice.=20 > > * Compensation to those directly damaged by this malicious campaign. >Including both the American GI=92s and the Montagnard communities here in >this country.=20 > >Vets' Message To CNN Is Simple --=20 > > The Issue Is Not Going To Go Away & Neither Are American Veterans!=20 >Until such point as CNN addresses these grievances sincerely, honestly and >in straightforward fashion, it will not be forgotten and will not go away. >Plain and simple.=20 >=20 >You Are Invited --=20 > > To the peaceful gathering at CNN headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia, on >Wednesday, August 26 from 11 AM until 3 PM to witness firsthand how CNN >executives and staff answer to these grievances face-to-face with the >community they wrongly accuse of being war criminals.=20 > >Media Contact =97=20 >J.R. Tobin=20 >(704) 545-0585 Office=20 >(704) 564-2224 Mobile=20 > > > > By all means send to your members. Ask them to further distribute, too. > > Regarding attendees, inform them that this is to be a first rate >professional protest and that they should go to the Tailwind Info Center >referenced on the Press Release and read the Op Ord listed under "Join Us >In Atlanta" and be prepared to conform to the instructions. Tell them that >anyone attending must adhere to the op order. > > The links, if you want to mail directly from the html pages as I did are >http://www.GreenBeret.Net/Tailwind/PressInfo/Announcements/8-26%20Press%20 >Release.htm >for the press release and >http://www.GreenBeret.Net/Tailwind/Misc/OpOrd-10-26-98-Atlanta.html > > I would just caution them about showing up to participate without being >thoroughly familiar with the op ord and being in proper and professional >accordance with the dress code outlined therein. This will be STRICTLY >enforced. Absolutely no camo. > > Other than that, fling as far and wide as you can.=20 > > Thanks a lot, > >-- Bob Golden [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: STOP the FDA and SAVE our Supplements!! (fwd) Date: 28 Aug 1998 00:10:59 PST Man, they just keep on trying, one Right after another. On Aug 27, Eugene Gross wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Hi Folks, I've been following the attempts by the FDA to stop the food supplement and nutritional supplements industry for the past five years. And now the FDA is at it again!! Read the following and PLEASE act now, or we may not be able to store enough supplements and herbs for our use later on!! En Agape, Gene P.S. Thanks to Ken for this heads up!!! Good catch, Ken!! =================================== > FDA IS AT IT AGAIN. > > URGENT, OUR HEALTH FREEDOMS ARE UNDER ATTACK AGAIN. > > Please read the following information. In a nutshell, what it says > is that if we do not stop the latest proposed ruling by the FDA, within > the next 8 or 9 days, practically all the nutritional products we use > could be re-classified as drugs. This would mean that access would > be restricted and costs would be prohibitive. The following text comes > from a company called Integris. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > "The FDA has proposed a new regulation on structure/function claims, > in an effort to narrow what can be said about supplements. They > proposed that any deviation of the body from a 'natural' state would > be considered a 'disease'. Such natural states as aging, pregnancy, > and menopause will be defined as diseases. > > The FDA will be able to restrict your ability to obtain information > on how to use vitamins, minerals, and herbs. The FDA will be able > to restrict access to vitamins, minerals, and herbs based on the > 'intended" use.' For instance, if you use a product to lower > cholesterol, even if the label makes no such claim, the FDA could > reclassify that product as a drug. > > UNLESS THE FDA RECEIVES 100,000 objections to this proposal by > August 27th, these regulations will become law." > > Please write or fax or copy, past e and e-mail the letter below. > Ask your spouse, your friends, co-workers, neighbors, and health > food stores to write letters also. > > Thank you. > > ------------------------------ > > SAMPLE LETTER: > > Mail To: > > Dockets Management Branch (HFA-305) > Food and Drug Administration > Attn: Michael Friedman, MD > Lead Deputy Commissioner > 5630 Fishers Lane, Rm. 1061 > Rockville, MD 20857 > > Fax: 301-827-6870 > > E-mail: > mf28c@nih.gov > friedmam@od.nih.gov ? (this is how they showed it in the directory) > friedman@od.nih.gov (send to all three addresses to make sure) > > Dear Dr. Friedman: > > I am writing to notify you that FDA's proposed rulemaking on > structure function claims, 21 CFR part 101/Docket #98N-0044, is > totally unacceptable to me as an American consumer of dietary > supplements. > > Any final rule must reflect the true meaning and intent, mandated > by Congress, of the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act > (DSHEA). > > I support the FDA's effort to fully implement DSHEA as intended > by Congress; however, I strongly object to the proposed regulations > which: > > 1. Limit my access to (scientific) information about dietary > supplements and health > > 2. Redefine disease restricting my ability to focus on preventive care > and wellness. > > It is extremely important to preserve Section 6 of DSHEA to allow > for a robust flow of valuable health information in the marketplace. > > I want free access to available information about dietary > supplements and health, and I want FDA to withdraw its proposal to > redefine disease in a way that limits such health information. > > DSHEA allows products to make structure/function claims on the > product labels. Redefining disease to nullify that part of DSHEA must > be withdrawn. > > Sincerely, > > _________________________ > (Sign here) > > > > __________________________ > (City and State) > > > Annette > > ______________________________________________ > The Estes Group > Certified Professional Behavioral and Values Analyst > 5018 Old Spartanburg Road =80 Suite 176 > Taylors, SC 29687 > (864) 244-1156 > Fax (864) 244-1219 > > --------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: BeatIRS@aol.com [mailto:BeatIRS@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 10:19 PM > To: FozzyBearr@aol.com > Subject: Fwd: Here they go again > > ********************************************** > To subscribe or unsubscribe, email: > majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com > with the message: > (un)subscribe ignition-point email@address > ********************************************** > www.telepath.com/believer > ********************************************** > > --------- End forwarded message ---------- > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: PA Alert: VOTE NO Coaltion forms (fwd) Date: 28 Aug 1998 11:07:46 PST On Aug 28, Bucks County Sportsmen's Coalition wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Friends: Many of the recipients on this list played a key role in stalling passage of SB555, the legislation leading to the so-called "Commonwealth Right to Jury Trial" constitutional amendment that will be placed before the voters for approval in November. If your memory needs refreshed, this is the amendment that will permit prosecutors to DEMAND an expensive jury trial, thus enabling them to coerce INNOCENT middle class defendants into making false guilty pleas, or plea bargains, rather than face financial ruin. We are pleased to announce that a broad-based VOTE NO coalition has been formed. The name of the group is PENNSYLVANIANS FOR FAIR TRIALS. The address is P.O. Box 206, Philadelphia, PA 19105-0206, and the number is (215) 552-8907. If you or your group would like to join with us in ACTIVELY campaigning against this change to Pennsylvania's Declaration of Rights, please contact the VOTE NO coalition to have your group listed as a member. Bucks County Sportsmen's Coalition PLEASE CROSS-POST TO APPROPRIATE LISTS! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Curtis Subject: Re: PA Alert: VOTE NO Coaltion forms (fwd) Date: 28 Aug 1998 15:16:15 -0400 (EDT) > >If your memory needs refreshed, this is the amendment that will >permit prosecutors to DEMAND an expensive jury trial, thus >enabling them to coerce INNOCENT middle class defendants into >making false guilty pleas, or plea bargains, rather than face >financial ruin. > Ahhh, can someone please explain this. Isn't the more usual scenario one where a prosecutor wants to plea bargin a charge to a guilty plea for a lesser charge? If the prosecutor doesn't want to plea bargain, he/she doesn't have to. If you don't plea bargain, you definitely will go to trial. Is a jury trial noticeably more expensive for the defendant than a trial before a judge? The reasoning here seems to be garbled. The essential worry is that prosecutors can force amazing legal expenses on anyone they prosecute (guilty or innocent). awaiting clarification, Jack Curtis - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: PA Alert: VOTE NO Coaltion forms (fwd) Date: 28 Aug 1998 14:16:04 PST On Aug 28, John Curtis wrote: >>If your memory needs refreshed, this is the amendment that will >>permit prosecutors to DEMAND an expensive jury trial, thus >>enabling them to coerce INNOCENT middle class defendants into >>making false guilty pleas, or plea bargains, rather than face >>financial ruin. > > Ahhh, can someone please explain this. Isn't the more usual > scenario one where a prosecutor wants to plea bargin a charge > to a guilty plea for a lesser charge? If the prosecutor > doesn't want to plea bargain, he/she doesn't have to. > > If you don't plea bargain, you definitely will go to trial. > > Is a jury trial noticeably more expensive for the defendant > than a trial before a judge? > > The reasoning here seems to be garbled. The essential worry > is that prosecutors can force amazing legal expenses on > anyone they prosecute (guilty or innocent). > > awaiting clarification, > > Jack Curtis I'm not totally sure at this point, though my basic attitude is that prosecutors have it far too good these days, with respect to influencing Juries, especially when folks are poor enough to have to deal with the Legal System on their own. Prosecutors are motivated to rack up Convictions, not see Justice done, and any exceptions are just that; Exceptional period. It simply strikes me as just another Criminal/Trial Lawyer's Wellfare BIll. Anyone know if a loss in Pensylvania Courts includes Jury payments etc., as part of Court Costs? -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [Fwd: Re: PA-RKBA! More to worry about....] (fwd) Date: 28 Aug 1998 20:23:05 PST On Aug 28, globallaw@tidalwave.net wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] References: <1ac_9808270014@tanstaaf.frackit.com> <199808251754.NAA16113@syl.syl.nj.nec.com> <199808280239.WAA02461@primus> David P. Chernicoff wrote: > > >>This was copied directly from the web page of Neal Boortz with WSB Radio in Atlanta. If you would like to read his entire page, go to > >>http://www.boortz.com > >> [edited for brevity; Third-hand, relay of information: e-mail message stating to effect that]... > >>GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS --- BLATANT INDOCTRINATION "...My niece (she's in the 3rd grade now) was excited and told me that she had memorized the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. I asked her to tell me what she had learned. She did... guess what, during the Bill of Rights part... she skipped the 2nd amendment. I asked her why, she told me that her school teacher said that the 2nd amendment had been removed from the bill of rights and that they won't teach it anymore (told to her by her teacher). I called the school, they told me that the 2nd amendment no longer applies to the bill of rights and that it will be rescinded by the next election. This ticked me off but it also has me worried. Has any other kids come home from school with the same brain washing?"... That, folks, is pure, raw indoctrination. This is a school system, acting as an agent for the government, indoctrinating out children with lies. It is no secret that we are now living under the control of a government that is afraid for its citizens to have guns." ............. end quoted messages ...... It doesn't stop there Dave. They are teaching new lawyers the same thing. This was part of a note I sent for relay to the Virginia Citizen's Defense League attorney. No feedback as of yet. "...Barbri [the primary national Bar Preparation outfit] has included on Page 36, Section 8.2 "Application of the Bill of Rights to the States" a bit of revisionist teaching. All these new young lawyers will go out with this word of gospel ingrained in their minds. I use all caps where Barbri has used italics due to my e-mailers' limitations. "After the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted in 1868, the Supreme Court interpreted the Due Process Clause of that amendment as INCORPORATING many, but not all, of the guarantees of the Bill of Rights and applying them against the states. The Court found, through a process of "selective incorporation," that the following protections of the first eight amendments to the Bill of Rights were "fundamental to the American scheme of justice," and therefore, applicable to the states: - all of the protections of the First Amendment. - all of the protections of the Fourth Amendment. - all of the protections of the Fifth Amendment except the right to be indicted by a grand jury. - all of the protections of the Sixth Amendment. - all of the protections of the Eighth Amendment." "The Second Amendment (right to bear arms), and the Seventh Amendment (right to jury in civil cases) are NOT APPLICABLE to the states and the Third Amendment (quartering of troops in homes) has not been the subject of a decision." Now is it any wonder that the Dems/NEA/HCI are fighting tooth and nail against school vouchers, charter schools and home schooling? If they can catch the impressionable minds early enough, they can effectively rewrite history and the Constitution in the minds of the newly indoctrinated. Cut off their cash and their monopoly on education. School choice now. Regards, Rick V. "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Mitchell Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: PA-RKBA! More to worry about....] (fwd) Date: 29 Aug 1998 14:04:51 -0700 At 08:23 PM 8/28/98 PST, Bill Vance wrote: >On Aug 28, globallaw@tidalwave.net wrote: > >> >>GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS --- BLATANT INDOCTRINATION > >"...My niece (she's in the 3rd grade now) was excited and told me that >she had memorized the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. I asked her >to tell me what she had learned. She did... guess what, during the Bill >of Rights part... she skipped the 2nd amendment. I asked her why, she >told me that her school teacher said that the 2nd amendment had been >removed from the bill of rights and that they won't teach it anymore >(told to her by her teacher). I called the school, they told me that the >2nd amendment no longer applies to the bill of rights and that it will >be rescinded by the next election. This ticked me off but it also has me >worried. Has any other kids come home from school with the same brain >washing?"... That, folks, is pure, raw indoctrination. This is a school >system, acting as an agent for the government, indoctrinating out >children with lies. It is no secret that we are now living under the >control of a government that >is afraid for its citizens to have guns." >............. end quoted messages ...... > >It doesn't stop there Dave. They are teaching new lawyers the same >thing. This was part of a note I sent for relay to the Virginia >Citizen's Defense League attorney. No feedback as of yet. > > >"...Barbri [the primary national Bar Preparation outfit] has included on >Page 36, Section 8.2 "Application of the Bill of Rights to the States" a >bit of revisionist teaching. All these new young lawyers will go out >with this word of gospel ingrained in their minds. I use all caps where >Barbri has used italics due to my e-mailers' limitations. > >"After the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted in 1868, the Supreme Court >interpreted the Due Process Clause of that amendment as INCORPORATING >many, but not all, of the guarantees of the Bill of Rights and applying >them against the states. The Court found, through a process of >"selective incorporation," that the following protections of the first >eight amendments to the Bill of Rights were "fundamental to the American >scheme of justice," and therefore, applicable to the states: > >- all of the protections of the First Amendment. >- all of the protections of the Fourth Amendment. >- all of the protections of the Fifth Amendment except the right to be >indicted by a grand jury. >- all of the protections of the Sixth Amendment. >- all of the protections of the Eighth Amendment." > >"The Second Amendment (right to bear arms), and the Seventh Amendment >(right to jury in civil cases) are NOT APPLICABLE to the states and the >Third Amendment (quartering of troops in homes) has not been the subject >of a decision." The _reason_ for the lack of "incorporation" of the 2nd seems to have slipped by most people, including most lawyers. Note the language of the First and other amendments; "Congress shall make no law....", or the equivalent. The Second says "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED". That's a much stronger statement, and early court cases clearly applied the 2nd to the states. It was only after the 14th amendment that the Supreme Court began to apply the _rest_ of the BOR to state governments as well. Of coourse, you won't get the government to admit this..... Ken Mitchell Citrus Heights, CA kmitchel@gvn.net 916-955-9152 (vm) 916-729-0966 (fax) --------------http://www.gvn.net/~creative/------------------------ "George Washington said it as, 'Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.' Government must be restricted as much as possible to do as little as possible because unlike all other institutions, every task given to it is the occasion for the use of force. It is enough if government attempts to limit the evil actions that individuals commit against each other. If it does more, either in attempting to restrict the evils that individuals do to themselves, or if government attempts to use its force to engineer positive good, it increases occasions for the creation of power centers which can be captured by amoral or immoral persons who will corrupt such power to their own ends." J. Neil Schulman "Self Control, Not Gun Control" Founding Member of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: linzellr@datastar.net (Robert Linzell) Subject: Fwd: Economics Matters Date: 29 Aug 1998 15:56:12 -0500 Forwarded FYI from the Ludwig von Mises Institute newsletter. Check out the WWW link #5 (The Locke Institute) in particular; it contains quite a few very nice pages and links (e.g., lots of legal & regulatory links). --Bob in Mississippi Evidence that politics and deception are inseparable comes from former President George Bush, who tells an interviewer on A&E Network tonight (August 25, 1998) that the Fed cost him the election in 1992. "I think that if the interest rates had been lowered more dramatically that I would have been re-elected president because the [economic] recovery that we were in would have been more visible," Mr. Bush told interviewer David Frost (as reported in the WSJ). "I reappointed [Alan Greenspan], and he disappointed me." Bush also says he regrets his "No New Taxes" pledge and wishes he had adopted the strategy of Reagan. "Reagan raised taxes several times," Mr. Bush said, "but he just kept saying, 'I'm against a tax increase.' ... I just wish I'd been that good." * * * * Milton Friedman is interviewed by Gene Epstein in this week's Barron's. On the positive side, he calls for the abolition of the Fed, the IMF, and most economic regulation. On the negative side, he pushes various "transitional" schemes that create problems of their own, including the "negative income tax" and Social Security "privatization." Then, Epstein and Friedman have this exchange on the Austrian theory of the business cycle, which Friedman famously rejects: Q: You were acquainted with the Austrian economist Friedrich Hayek and also are familiar with the work of Ludwig von Mises and his American disciple, Murray Rothbard. When you were talking about bad investments, you were alluding to Austrian business-cycle theory. There is a certain concept that has pretty much gone into our parlance and understanding, which fits in with what you said about what happened in Asia. There can be times and conditions in which the stage can be set for malinvestment that leads to recession. A: That is a very general statement that has very little content. I think the Austrian business-cycle theory has done the world a great deal of harm. If you go back to the 1930s, which is a key point, here you had the Austrians sitting in London, Hayek and Lionel Robbins, and saying you just have to let the bottom drop out of the world. You've just got to let it cure itself. You can't do anything about it. You will only make it worse. You have Rothbard saying it was a great mistake not to let the whole banking system collapse. I think by encouraging that kind of do-nothing policy both in Britain and the United States, they did harm. Q: Would you make a similar statement about John Maynard Keynes and the Keynesians? A: That is also true of them. Thanks to the Keynesians, we had the stagflation of the 1970s. You never would have had stagflation if it hadn't been for the full-employment policies coming out of the Keynesian revolution. So both the Austrians and the Keynesians did a good deal of harm. But both of them, I would say, added to our understanding of business cycles. Only I don't think there are business cycles. Q: You can't add too much to your understanding of something that doesn't exist. But getting back to your analysis of Asia, you talked about certain necessary conditions for the creation of a situation in which malinvestment occurred. Is that a fair summary of what you said? A: I am not sure I like to refer to it as malinvestment. Q: I think you called it economically unjustified. A: The problem is the following one: I don't like to use the word malinvestment as a synonym for monetary disequilibrium. What you created in those countries was a situation of monetary disequilibrium, where the internal value of the currency was not equal to its external value. That in turn encourages an economic structure within the country that is not viable. And one aspect of that is malinvestment. * * * * Watch Mises.org for a response to these claims. * * * * Among the sites on the web that should be in every Austrian's favorites menu are: 1. Greg Ransom's Hayek Page: http://members.aol.com/gregransom/hayekpage.htm Here you will find a complete Hayek bibliography and a wealth of information on his life and work. Greg has been keep this up for years, and he has created a treasure trove for Hayek scholars. 2. History of Economic Thought site: http://www.econ.jhu.edu/people/fonseca/het/hethome.htm Leanne J. Ussher and Gon=E7alo L. Fonseca have done a wonderful job in creating the most complete history of thought on the web, and it gives prominent attention to the Austrian School. 3. Economics on the Web: http://www.inomics.com/query/show?what=3Dwelcome= This is quite possibly the most complete site on the web for professional economists. An older but still solid site is http://econwpa.wustl.edu/EconFAQ/EconFAQ.html 4. Journals on the web: http://www.jstor.org/ Articles from ten mainstream economics journals can be found here. 5. The Locke Institute: http://www.thelockeinstitute.org/ Charles Rowley runs this institute, which concentrates on public choice research. _______________________________________________________________ | Robert S. Linzell linzellr@datastar.net | | Disclaimer: The content of the preceding message reflects | | my opinion only, unless otherwise indicated. | | "Live" from South Mississippi State Motto: Virtute et Armis | |_______________________________________________________________| - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: linzellr@datastar.net (Robert Linzell) Subject: Fwd: Centralize or Secede Date: 29 Aug 1998 15:58:42 -0500 Forwarded FYI from the Ludwig von Mises Institute (big believers in the right/duty of seccession) newsletter. --Bob in Mississippi The journal Society is available on scholarly newsstands around the country, and generally deals with intellectual trends in sociology, politics, and economics. The July/August 1998 issue deals with the topic "Secession and Nationalism at the Millennium." The featured author is Mises Institute senior scholar Hans-Hermann Hoppe, on "The Western State as a Paradigm: Learning from History." Professor Hoppe explains the tendency for states to centralize their authority and why the Misesian theory of secessionism is essential to understanding the idea of freedom. SOCIETY (Founded 1963) Irving Louis Horowitz, Editor-in-Chief ISSN: 0147-2011 Rutgers - The State University New Brunswick, NJ 08903 Subscription rates: Individuals: $48/yr; $90/2yrs; $126/3yrs. Institutions: $108/yr; $204/2yrs; $288/3yrs http://www.transactionpub.com For a more complete understanding of the place of the secessionist impulse in the classically liberal ideal, purchase Secession, State, and Liberty, edited by David Gordon, from www.mises.org _______________________________________________________________ | Robert S. Linzell linzellr@datastar.net | | Disclaimer: The content of the preceding message reflects | | my opinion only, unless otherwise indicated. | | "Live" from South Mississippi State Motto: Virtute et Armis | |_______________________________________________________________| - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Russia Today (fwd) Date: 30 Aug 1998 14:17:37 PST On Aug 30, Dennis Justice wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Hello All, This is just a heads-up. No need to reply as I have no more info than you see here. While we may wish to disregard what this reporter has to say, look around you. How far away from this situation are we right here in the 'land of the MEEK and the home of the SLAVE'? ================Copied from another list: ------------------------------ A friend of mine took a two-week hunting and fishing trip to Siberia. He returned yesterday and is in the process of sending me details about his vacation there. I figured his impressions of the country would be of interest... ---------- I was going to lead in to this subject with future segments of my trip report, but feel it really can't wait. When I got to Russia, the exchange rate was 6.1 Rubles for the dollar. In some stores I noticed some prices that didn't make sense to me. I was told they were old price tags and they hadn't had time to change them. I kid you not, the difference was 1000%!! That's NOT a misprint, ONE THOUSAND PERCENT. I got there a little over 2 weeks ago and I see today the Ruble is as low as 16 to 1 dollar! The unemployment and common man starving was unbelievably prevalent. I said earlier, I changed my hunting/fishing plans after arrival. I've been lucky enough to travel the world and have visited many countries "we" would consider impoverished. For over 3 years in Thailand, I turned down the comfort and security of the military post. In the place of a nice concrete barracks with a/c, hot and cold running water, etc., I chose to live among the locals. Tropical weather, no a/c (had electricity sometimes), no running water (or hot water) and an outside toilet. I ate the local food, drank their water (filtered through a t-shirt) and basically lived as one of them. In Mexico, I also lived with the locals, off the main drag, in the "slums" and refused to eat in the "tourist" spots. Same with Hawaii (my first two times, by myself). No Waikiki beaches for me, I lived and ate with the locals. The poor locals. Same in the Philipines, Guam, et al. In Russia, I decided to do the same. I stayed in a hotel one night in Moscow. From there on out, I slept in alley's, woods, side of the road, you name it. I lived with the locals, fished with local fishermen in small fishing villages, met some of the aborigines living in caves and tents (the Russian equivalent of our American Indians, looked like Eskimos) and even some Tartars (the original inhabitants of Siberia, looked like Japanese). I have many stories to tell related to the adventure, but the most important one really can't wait. I talked to the poor. We talked about the gov't., the economy, etc. To my surprise, many of these "peasants" were highly educated, held good jobs at one time and have been thrown into poverty by a corrupt government. Yuri has a "good" job, makes $400/month, BUT hasn't been paid since February. I found this is a fact of life. Employers pay IF and when they want. Yuri (I found out) has a degree and is a geophysicist! From village to village, the story was always the same. The nation is run by criminals and mafia. Yeltsin is a criminal, a communist who calls himself one who promotes a "democracy". The "word on the street" is, he's putting his old buddy Chernomyrdin back in office in exchange for letting Yeltsin back down, but still run things his way through Chernomyrdin. You could see obvious mafia figures driving their fancy cars with tinted windows, silk suits and sunglasses. Yuri pointed out their license plates to me. They ALL started with 3 digits (000, 111, 222, etc). This is a signal to the cops to NOT interfere with their business. Hands off. We got to Yuri's town and went to visit his brother at his store. The mafia had TAKEN it. We went to his house and his wife said she has no idea where he is. The mafia took his store from him (a hardware store) and she hasn't seen him since. The mayor of the adjoining town protested the criminal government and was shot to death in front of the government building. The mayor in Yuri's town then disappeared and hasn't been seen since. The locals say he's hiding. Russia was supposed to let the citizens own handguns as of the first of '97. They changed their minds and compromised. Yuri carries a Walther PPK 9mm, but the barrel has been changed. It's only a tear gas gun. That's all they're allowed. The talk in EVERY small village was of revolution, but they cried that they could only throw rocks. The GOVERNMENT, KGB, POLICE and CRIMINALS are the only ones in the country with any fire power. "Hunting" weapons are allowed, but only small calibre rifles and shotguns are allowed. Most common citizens can't even afford that. I was totally surprised by what else I learned. Almost everyone I talked to could practically recite our Bill of Rights! Can you? They looked at me in awe and asked, "Is it true some people in the U.S. want to CHANGE your Bill of Rights"? They couldn't believe it! They said it's the BEST thing we have going for us. They are especially jealous of our Second Amendment rights. They said if THEY had that right, the gov't. would have been changed long ago, but they have no choice but to continue letting the gov't. stuff their pockets while the people starve. I have tons to tell here, but have to do it in segments. I'm busy as heck catching up and will be out of town this weekend. I just drop in and give you more updates whenever I can. Remember, don't take our Bill of Rights for granted. Others in the world would kill for the rights we have. If there's a revolution in Russia in the near future, remember, you heard it here first. I figured I just couldn't let this wait. Jim [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] -- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul M Watson Subject: B-17's and "Saving Private Ryan" (fwd) Date: 31 Aug 1998 10:07:59 -0500 (CDT) From=20my brother about my dad. This is one of only a few stories my dad has ever told. He is now 80 years old.=20 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- B-17's and Saving Private Ryan My father, Colonel E. Stuart Watson, was a B-17 bomber pilot in World War II. Based in England, he flew 48 missions over enemy territory, and on D-Day he led the 8th Air Force 381'st bomb group over Omaha Beach to bomb the German emplacements. All bombs missed. He has wondered these many years how many American lives could have been saved if he had had his say, but it didn't happen that way.=20 The battle plan called for a closely timed and coordinated attack. The 8th Air Force was to send squadron's of B-17's, each carrying sixteen 500-lb bombs. Some planes carried one or two 1000-lb concrete-piercing bombs, intended to destroy fortified bunkers and pillboxes on the cliffs overlooking the beach. At a relatively low 10,000 foot altitude, they flew from the ocean straight inland across the shore. They were to start dropping bombs in the water offshore where the Germans had placed obstacles, and continue to drop one every 75 feet across the beach and into the fortifications.=20 Instead, as they approached, they encountered a solid undercast of cloud cover such as is commonly found along ocean beaches. Visually, they could not see the shore. The bombardier in Dad's plane had radar, enabling him to see the target, but not the troops on the ground. Not wanting to risk hitting our men, he hesitated. There wasn't time to consult my father, who was the wing commander that day. Had he been asked, he would have ordered the drop as planned. A good battle plan, conceived and thought out while not under duress, is best followed through. Things never go exactly right in the heat of action, and the tendency is to want to abandon the plan. But as it happened, on this day, the landing craft had encountered high seas and begun to take on water, with the result that the troops were 22 minutes behind schedule hitting the beach. None would have been hurt.=20 All Dad's bombs fell behind the cliffs. Apparently the entire 8th Air Force had the same result. Probably some of the German communications were disrupted, but the Marines found the pillboxes and machine guns intact and manned by well-trained and ready gunners. It was a duck shoot. Many surviving Marines still hold the Air Force responsible for their heavy losses. After my father went to see Saving Private Ryan for the third time, this time with my wife and I and our two children, he told us the following story:=20 On December 24, 1944, five months after D-Day and ten months after I was born, he flew a mission to interdict German supply lines. Shortly after bombs were dropped, one of the new German jet fighter planes appeared. The same 20-millimeter cannon that the movie showed blowing down walls and blasting men to pieces, the Germans flew as fighter armament, with the same deadly effect. On the first pass, the German pilot shot out both engines on the left wing of Dad=B9s B-17.=20 Dad has told me many times that a B-17, given the opportunity to move freely away from formation, could outmaneuver most fighter planes. On that day, he had another Air Force pilot operating his tail gunner position. As the jet turned about and came from behind for the kill, this pilot/tail gunner got on the intercom and warned Dad as the jet came into gun range. Dad executed a hard left diving turn at the last moment, leaving the less maneuverable jet without a target. Since these new jets had only limited fuel supplies, the German had to abandon his attack and return to base after only two passes.=20 The B-17, of course, could still fly on two of its four engines. It was a tough plane, and could take a lot of damage. But with the extra drag of the rudder and aileron adjustments needed to compensate for the one-sided power, the plane could not climb, nor even maintain altitude. It started slowly down. None of the men were seriously hurt, but the German had shot up several of their parachutes. There were not enough for all. Dad gallantly ordered the men to jump and let him take the plane down, but they gallantly refused.=20 There was an 8,000 foot thick cloud cover, extending almost to the ground.= =20 The altimeter was set for England, and he didn't know exactly where they were, or what the local ground elevation was. It was probably France or Belgium, somewhere. If he could make it to the coast, he could at least be sure they were in Allied territory. He pressed on, until the altimeter read zero. Outside the right window, he noticed a church steeple go past the wingtip.=20 As the clouds broke open, he saw a field of snow just ahead. It had been terrible weather for several weeks, very cold. There were two or three feet of snow. They had lowered the landing gear, which was perhaps a mistake. Shell holes in the ground ripped off the gear immediately, and the plane spun around backwards, throwing snow everywhere. Miraculously, it skidded to a stop, intact, and did not burn. The entire crew walked away.=20 A British Leftenent ran from nearby tree cover to inform them that they were not in a secure area; that they were actually behind German lines. He urged the crew to destroy the plane. It was a brand-new plane, on its second or third mission. They had magnesium flares for the purpose, and they burned it to the ground.=20 The Leftenant pointed the way to home, and bid them luck. They wore thin, electrically heated flight boots and gloves, which did little good without the plane's power. They ran. The British had bonfires at each road intersection, and would tell them how to find the next checkpoint.=20 Nevertheless, they all became separated, and soon Dad had only one other companion. They spent Christmas Day somewhere on the Continent, running through the snow. It took about five days to reach a safe place and be picked up. They all eventually made it back to England. Dad flew several more missions. He has never flown since the war.=20 Not a single man was killed in any of Dad's planes, nor even seriously wounded. But they all died, except him. Two complete crews, in fact. They died on other missions, in other planes. They died in alcoholic motor vehicle crashes after the war. One man crashed in his own front yard, with his wife watching. He took a friend up in a small plane, and buzzed his own house. The friend panicked in the back seat and pulled his rip cord, filling the cockpit with parachute silk.=20 Twenty men, and my father alone survived. War makes no sense. That's the message of the movie. Who wins, who loses, who lives, who dies, where, when, and why it makes no sense.=20 -