From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #67 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Wednesday, February 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 067 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 08:28:14 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: CAS: NYT: Justice Dept. Officials Recommend Special Prosecutor in Babbitt Case (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 23:26:16 -0600 From: Ann Khan To: cas@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: CAS: NYT: Justice Dept. Officials Recommend Special Prosecutor in Babbitt Case NY Times February 10, 1998 Justice Dept. Officials Recommend Special Prosecutor in Babbitt Case By DAVID JOHNSTON ASHINGTON -- Top Justice Department officials have formally recommended that Attorney General Janet Reno seek an independent prosecutor to investigate Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt's role in a decision to kill an Indian casino project in Wisconsin, law enforcement officials said on Monday. In a formal memorandum, Reno's advisers said that their preliminary inquiries could not resolve whether Babbitt told the truth in statements to lawmakers about his role in the casino deal. Reno is likely to accept her aides' advice, officials said, by Wednesday, the deadline for seeking an outside counsel on this issue. Her decision on whether to seek an independent prosecutor's inquiry into another Clinton Cabinet officer comes at a tumultuous moment in the 19-year old history of the independent counsel statute. Another outside prosecutor, Kenneth Starr, has come under furious assault from Democrats for spending five years investigating first the Clintons' Whitewater land deal and now expanding his inquiry into the explosive realm of the nature of President Clinton's relationship with Monica Lewinsky, a former White House intern. The Babbitt case raises the specter of another far-reaching investigation because its roots are linked to political fund-raising, with casino deal opponents pouring hundreds of thousands of dollars into Democratic campaigns. It would be the first outside inquiry of campaign finance irregularities -- something the Republicans have long wanted. Reno is said by some officials to be demanding a tightly worded charter for the prosecutor in an attempt to keep the inquiry from spreading into the swirling tangle of issues related to how Democrats financed Clinton's re-election. A panel of appellate judges would have to approve any charter for an independent prosecutor, recommended by Reno. In Babbitt's case, law enforcement officials say Reno has little choice but to seek the appointment of an independent counsel because the evidence against the interior secretary remains contradictory. Although Babbitt repeatedly has said he played no role in a departmental decision to deny a permit for the casino, a lawyer involved in the casino deal said Babbitt told him of a concerted White House lobbying effort to thwart the project. The independent counsel statute seems almost certain to force Reno into an appointment in this case, because the statute prohibits Justice Department prosecutors -- in their preliminary inquiries -- from employing tools that are routine in such criminal cases, like compelling witnesses to appear before a grand jury to sort out conflicting claims. As a result, they have not been able to summon Babbitt before a grand jury. The timing is doubly painful for the Clinton administration because Reno's decision also comes at a time when the Justice Department's own slow-moving campaign-finance inquiry has returned its first indictments against some of Clinton's political friends like Yah Lin Trie. A former Little Rock restaurateur, Trie has been charged with illegally funnelling hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Democrats during Clinton's re-election campaign. Reno has almost always accepted her aides' recommendations in these investigations in the past. Babbitt would be the fourth Cabinet member to undergo such scrutiny after former Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy, former Housing Secretary Henry Cisneros, and former Commerce Secretary Ron Brown, who died in April 1996 when his plane crashed in Croatia. She last sought an independent counsel, concurring with staff recommendations, in the Cisneros inquiry. This appointment would arm Republicans with the prosecutorial weapon they have demanded from Reno since the campaign-finance issue erupted. But if Reno succeeds in limiting the prosecutor's charter, an investigation into Babbitt's activities would not provide a prosecutor with a license to rummage through the entire catalog of alleged campaign abuses. Interior officials in Washington rejected the casino permit in 1995 after rival tribes hired a high-powered Democratic lobbyist, Patrick O'Connor, who led the effort to overturn the permit. O'Connor had important contacts at the White House, like Harold Ickes, the former deputy chief of staff, and Bruce Lindsey, the presidential counselor. In 1996, after the decision to scrap the project, the tribes opposing the Interior permit contributed $230,000 to the Democrats. Republican lawmakers said the permit issue exemplified a clear-cut case in which a government favor was exchanged for campaign contributions. The casino decision forms the backdrop for the specific issues of perjury at the heart of the Babbitt inquiry. The inquiry focuses on a lobbyist, Paul Eckstein, a former law school classmate and law partner of Babbitt, who was hired as lobbyist by the tribes that lost the permit battle. On the day of the permit decision, Eckstein prevailed on Babbitt to meet with him. By Eckstein's account, Babbitt told him that Ickes had ordered a quick resolution of the case. Eckstein added that the secretary had also asked whether his old friend was aware how much the prevailing Indian group had contributed. When first asked about the remarks, Babbitt denied to a senator that he ever made them. Later, after the casino issue ignited into a potential scandal, Babbitt changed his story. Babbitt admitted that he had mentioned Ickes' name, but only as a kind of closing comment to excuse himself from the meeting with Eckstein. "I never spoke with Mr. Ickes about the Hudson matter, and I shouldn't have given Mr. Eckstein any reason to suppose that I had," Babbitt said in testimony about the issue to a House investigating committee on Jan. 29. "I regret the remark. It was a mistake. But that's all that it was." ========================================================================== This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 09:22:13 -0700 From: Boyd Kneeland Subject: Re: Gun Control Poll (fwd) I just did that and in the frame you get -after- you hit submit were the words: Woops...XferRespDB Thank you for participating in our poll! For additional polls covering News & Politics and Entertainment issues relate= d to you, check out the list on the right. If you would like information about blah blah blah... any ideas on what that "woops..." is about? BK (As I type this, that page sits in the background sucking cycles and every other operation wait. Push-ee pages suck!) PS. went to the "contact" page wich has -no- contact information but rather some cutesy "surprise" poll about their polls. Dutifully filled that out, asking them to email me about what XferRespDB meant and got:" Sorry The resource requested /cgi/emailform.cgi cannot be found. If you feel that this is a configuration error, please contact the administrators or the author of the referring page.. Roxen=B7Enterprise/1.0=B7prerelease, at http://demo.cyberworks.net/. " Incredible! They're running a Lotus database engine for this site and not only can't they get -basic- html right (like having webmaster mailto's on their pages) but the ersatz contact crap doesnt even work. With the volume of people out there competing for business as "web page "designers"",...the mind simply boggles. Hope the rest of you have better luck then I did. - -Boyd >On Feb 9, Douglas Davis wrote: > >[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows -------------------= - -] > >>Return-Path: >>From: brian.beck@usa.net >>Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 11:57:14 >>To: davisda@rmi.net >>Subject: Gun Control Poll >> >> >> >>Found this website (E-Poll) which is conducting a poll on gun control - >>notably >>the Washington I-676 style proposals. I voted today - and joined a 70+% >>majority which favors "our" viewpoint. >> >>The website is: >> >>http://www.epoll.com/left.html >> >>Select the topic from that page (they will request some basic demographic >>info) >> >>Go and vote! >> >> >> >>____________________________________________________________________ >>Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com >> >> >****************** >Firearms, self-defense, and other information, with LINKS are >available at: http://shell.rmi.net/~davisda Latest additions are >found in the group NEW with GOA and other alerts under the >heading ALERTS. For those without browser capabilities, send >[request index.txt] to davisda@rmi.net and an index of the files >at this site will be e-mailed to you. Then send [request ] >and the requested file will be sent as a message. >Various shareware programs are archived at: >ftp://shell.rmi.net/pub2/davisda To receive the contents of the >FTP site, send [request index.ftp] to davisda@rmi.net >FTP capabilities needed to retrieve programs. >******************** > > >[------------------------- end of forwarded message -----------------------= - -] > >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------= - - > ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------= - - >An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no >weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his >hand =3D Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a >on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Chris= t >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------= - - > >- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 11:56:16 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: News update on Horiuchi (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 10:36:09 -0500 (EST) From: Don Loftus To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: News update on Horiuchi I got this from the CNN web site and just pass it on as an update on the trial. Don Loftus Gainesville, FL - -------------------------------- Feds seek dismissal of charge against FBI sniper BOISE, Idaho (AP) -- The federal government on Monday sought the dismissal of a state involuntary manslaughter charge against the FBI sharpshooter who killed Randy Weaver's wife at Ruby Ridge six years ago. The Justice Department petition filed in federal court argued that Lon Horiuchi was protected by the Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution so he cannot be subject to state prosecution for actions in the line of duty. Horiuchi was among dozens of federal agents who surrounded Weaver's remote mountain cabin in the Idaho Panhandle in August 1992 in an attempt to arrest Weaver on an illegal weapons charge. Last August, five years to the day after Vicki Weaver's death, prosecutor Denise Woodbury filed the involuntary manslaughter charge against Horiuchi. The Justice Department had earlier declined to prosecute Horiuchi. On January 7, U.S. District Judge Edward Lodge moved the case to federal court. Horiuchi pleaded innocent. His trial is scheduled for March 10. - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:51:19 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: CAS: AP: Report: Gore Misstated Fund-Raising (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 14:46:34 -0600 From: Ann Khan To: cas@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: CAS: AP: Report: Gore Misstated Fund-Raising Report: Gore Misstated Fund-Raising By KEVIN GALVIN Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) -- A draft of the final Senate report on fund-raising abuses in the 1996 presidential election suggests Vice President Al Gore and some top campaign advisers misstated their fund-raising activities and that several Democratic money men were connected with the Chinese government. A section of the draft report -- portions of which were obtained by The Associated Press -- said the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee collected evidence making it obvious ``that despite his various denials,'' Gore ``was well aware'' that an event he attended at a Buddhist temple near Los Angeles in April 1996 was designed to raise money for the Democratic Party. Gore originally said he thought the event was community outreach, but later acknowledged he knew it was donor-related and that his staff failed to tell him it was a formal fund-raiser. The Senate committee, which compiled the report following months-long hearings and interviews last year, also concluded that President Clinton's top political aide at the time, Harold Ickes, illegally ``seized the reins of financial power'' at the Democratic National Committee to ``squeeze as much money'' out of the party as possible for the 1996 re-election campaign. Meanwhile, The Washington Post said in today's editions that the report stated that Mochtar and James Riady -- head of the Indonesia-based Lippo Group conglomerate and longtime Clinton supporters -- ``have had a long-term relationship with a Chinese intelligence agency.'' The report said that relationship appeared to be ``based on business interests'' to obtain Chinese assistance in international business opportunities ``in exchange for large sums of money and other help.'' The committee also said, according to the Post, that it had ``unverified information'' that John Huang, the former Lippo executive and onetime Democratic fund-raiser, may have a direct financial relationship with the Chinese government. Huang has denied such allegations through his lawyer. The Democratic Party had to return $3 million in 1996 campaign donations -- most of it raised by Huang or Yah Lin ``Charlie'' Trie -- because of concerns the money came from foreign or other improper sources. Senate investigators traced more than $1 million wired to Trie from Asia, including $470,000 from his business partner, Macao property developer Ng Lap Seng. Trie, a friend of Clinton since the president was Arkansas governor, is awaiting trial on federal charges of conspiring to make illegal donations and to obstruct congressional and Justice Department investigations into his fund-raising activities. The Post said much of the information on the alleged China links was based on U.S. counterintelligence intercepts. When the hearings began last year, the committee's chairman, Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn., said the investigation would demonstrate that China tried to influence U.S. elections. But the hearings provided little public evidence of that. The White House dismissed the committee's findings as politically motivated. ``It is sad to see $3 million in taxpayer money being used to fund a partisan attack instead of a bipartisan call for campaign-finance reform,'' White House spokesman Jim Kennedy said. The report also cited sworn Senate testimony by Terence McAuliffe, who was treasurer of the Clinton-Gore '96 campaign, in which he said he had no active part in discussions about a contribution swap scheme that triggered a federal grand jury investigation of the 1996 Teamsters election. But Matthew Angle, executive director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, told Senate investigators that McAuliffe ``asked did we know anybody that could or would write a check to (Teamsters President) Ron Carey and that if we could help Carey, then we would perhaps get contributions back to the DCCC.'' The Washington Times reported in today's editions that Clinton fundraisers received $211,000 from the Teamsters through Martin Davis, the union's political consultant. The committee intends to ask the Justice Department to determine whether dealings between the Teamsters and top Clinton aides violated federal law. Ickes, who testified in public before the committee, and an attorney for McAuliffe disputed the report's conclusions. ``I don't believe the referral has any merit,'' Ickes said Monday night. ``I told the truth about everything that was asked, and I have nothing further to say about it.'' McAuliffe's attorney, Richard Ben-Veniste, said the statements made against his client were taken out of context. ``It comes up because it was there on the (donation) commitment sheet -- not because Terry McAuliffe calls a meeting and says, `Hey, gang, I've got a really good idea. To blow it up like this is just not right.'' Meanwhile, a draft section of the Democrats' minority report said former GOP Chairman Haley Barbour deliberately sought foreign donations for the National Policy Forum, a Republican think tank. The section said a $2.1 million loan guarantee for the policy forum came from a Hong Kong business instead of its U.S. subsidiary, as Barbour testified last summer before the committee. As soon as the policy forum obtained the money, it wired $1.6 million to the RNC. Barbour ``knew the money would be used to fund congressional elections in 1994'' because the policy forum was ``a de facto subsidiary'' of the Republican National Committee, the excerpt said. Ed Gillespie, a spokesman for Barbour, replied: ``The fact is the (National Policy Forum) siphoned money from the RNC, it never funneled money into it. Every witness who testified before the committee ... said it was a legal transaction.'' AP-NY-02-10-98 0454EST ========================================================================== This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:41:27 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: CAS: Requesting help for a 'polls headache' (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 15:21:16 -0600 From: Bill Nalty To: cas@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: CAS: Requesting help for a 'polls headache' To everyone, I'm sick of the all the darn polls, so I thought this would be helpful in getting a better understanding of the propaganda attached to the polls we're being bombarded with. Working with a post found on a.c-e.c.w, I've tried to put the data in a more readable form (original is added below my reconstruction), so you can see what I was working with. I went to the source, the National Journal, but it is a subscription so I couldn't see the origin of the data. What I'm unsure of, is what should be the proper heading for the first Column. I just put Clinton, in general. Is that correct? The Job Approval in Column 2 is understandable. I presume these are averages over a five year period. Any comments, or can someone repaste with corrections. >From what I'm seeing, the media is playing its usual mind games with a dumb populace. I know they have my dander up, and I don't like being made a subject of pollster voodoo. It will lower my blood pressure if someone can clear up this matter. Thanks, Bill ___________________________________________________ Clinton Clinton Job Approval Fav/Unfav Fav/Unfav ___________________________________________________ ABC/Money 53 / 43 60 / 35 CBS News 44 / 32 66 / 25 Gallup/CNN/ USA Today 65 / 34 69 / 28 NBC 50 / 37 72 / 21 NBC/Wall Street Journal 57 / 27 79 / 15 New York Post/Fox 5 56 / 41 57 / 42 New York Post/Zogby 59 / 38 62 / 37 New York Times/CBS 48 / 31 73 / 24 U.S. News 54 / 36 66 / 30 *************************************************** found a.c-e.c.w Subject: Poll Variance Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 13:55:44 -0500 From: Rodger Schultz Organization: Erol's Internet Services Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater Polls: Here are Clinto Polls from various sources. Since 1994, John Zogby has proved to be the most accurate when measured against election results. Note the spread between Clinton's Job approvals and Favorable ratings. It seems the media chooses to report the former over the latter. Big surprize. Here's the source. http://cloakroom.com/help/index.htm - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:12:24 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: CAS: AP: Draft Senate report suggests DNC chairman lied (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 16:08:16 -0800 From: Ray Heizer To: cas@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: CAS: AP: Draft Senate report suggests DNC chairman lied Draft Senate report suggests DNC chairman lied Associated Press, 02/10/98 17:33 WASHINGTON (AP) - In a draft report on their campaign finance probe, Senate investigators suggest a former Democratic national chairman lied under oath about his contacts with the CIA on behalf of a donor seeking U.S. support for an oil pipeline through Central Asia. Don Fowler, who was chairman of the Democratic National Committee, testified in a sworn deposition and in public hearings before the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee that he had no recollection of contacting a CIA agent for information about Roger Tamraz, the contributor whom Fowler helped gain access to the White House. But Fowler's own handwritten notes and telephone records suggest he knew that the contact, identified only as ``Bob,'' was a CIA agent and testimony from two White House aides indicate Fowler referred more than once to the agent in his discussions with them about Tamraz, investigators say. The agent testified that Fowler asked him for information that would allay concerns of National Security Council staffers who had opposed granting Tamraz access to any high-ranking government officials. ``Fowler has been less than candid in his recollection of these events,'' reads a draft section of the committee report obtained by The Associated Press. ``Because Fowler twice talked to Bob, recorded Bob's full name and CIA affiliation in his notes, and told at least two other people of his contacts with the CIA officer, it is extremely unlikely that Fowler genuinely did not recall his contacts with the CIA.'' Fowler's supporters have argued that he had no reason to lie about the conversations. In his deposition, Fowler said that ``I have plumbed my memory in every way that I can, and I have no memory of ever having talked to anybody at the CIA.'' His attorney, Jim Hamilton, declined comment Tuesday. In his appearance before the committee, Tamraz, a millionaire oilman from Lebanon, bluntly informed the committee that the $300,000 he gave to Democrats for the 1996 election was intended to gain access to top White House decision makers in spite of the NSC's qualms about his background. Tamraz, who has become a U.S. citizen, was promoting an oil pipeline project from the Caspian Sea through the Caucasus, but NSC staffer Sheila Heslin, who chaired an interagency group working to secure an agreement to build a pipeline in the region, resisted his requests for support. Heislin, who learned that Tamraz had exaggerated his contacts with Central Asian leaders and oil companies and that he had a checkered financial history, warned other administration officials to steer clear of Tamraz. Tamraz has had legal troubles in France and Lebanon stemming from two bank failures. After a breakfast meeting between Vice President Al Gore and Tamraz was canceled because of Heislin's concerns, Tamraz worked his political contacts to secure an invitation to a fund-raising dinner at the home of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass. He was seated with Gore and Kennedy. Later, he managed to raise the pipeline idea at a fund-raising event with President Clinton. In a later meeting with Fowler and a DNC aide designed to overcome the NSC's resistance to his plan, Tamraz encouraged the party officials to contact Bob, who had already been calling Heislin on his behalf. Fowler's handwritten notes from the meeting reflected Tamraz' comments. Bob submitted a statement to the committee saying Fowler ``called me at the request of ... Roger Tamraz'' and that Fowler ``was attempting to arrange a meeting between the vice president and Tamraz concerning Tamraz' oil pipeline.'' Bob said he didn't tell Fowler he was a CIA agent. Concerns about the allegations have already prompted the CIA to draft new rules to prevent its employees from essentially lobbying other government officials. Meanwhile, the chairman of a House committee looking into fund raising urged Attorney General Janet Reno to appoint an independent counsel to investigate what role political donations played in the Interior Department's decision to deny a request to open a casino by Native Americans in Wisconsin. Rep. Dan Burton, R-Ind., complained that the department and administration officials had withheld documents from House investigators and attorneys involved in a civil suit against Interior. ``The facts and allegations raised during our hearings make it clear that a thorough and independent investigation is required,'' Burton wrote ========================================================================== This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:16:22 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: CAS: John Zogby gets different results in his survey (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Feb 1998 18:28:01 -0600 From: Bill Nalty To: cas@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: CAS: John Zogby gets different results in his survey WorldNetDaily Tuesday, February 10, 1998=20 Are Clinton polls accurate? Zogby gets different results in his survey=20 By Joseph Farah =A91998, WorldNetDaily.com=20 Are national public opinion polls showing President Clinton with approval ratings of 70 percent and higher accurately reflecting the views of the American people?=20 John Zogby, the only pollster who called the 1996 presidential election to the exact percentage of victory, once again is at odds with some of his colleagues.=20 His latest tracking polls on President Clinton show, like most other national surveys, Clinton=92s support rising each day of the crisis. But the increases are not nearly as dramatic in Zogby=92s samplings. He found in a survey conducted Jan. 26 through Jan. 30:=20 * the president=92s job performance rating rose from 55.8 percent to 62.3 percent. His negative declined to 37.1 percent.=20 * His favorable rating -- previously as high as 66.2 percent -- declined to only 49 percent the first day of polling, then steadily rebounded to 58.5 percent.=20 * Slightly fewer voters were more likely to believe Monica Lewinsky at the end of the tracking (28.2) than at the beginning (30.9 percent), while more were willing to believe the president (42.1 percent to 43.9 percent).=20 * By the end of the week, a slight majority of voters (51.8 percent) were inclined to let the president complete his term even if there is evidence that he has lied in sworn testimony, compared with 43.2 percent who felt he should leave office.=20 Zogby=92s numbers, while still surprisingly good for a Clinton camp beleaguered by scandal, are starkly different from some other showing the president=92s approval rating nearing 90 percent. But Zogby offers a reasonable explanation for the trend consistent in all the surveys.=20 =93I must admit that these numbers are not what many of us may have expected,=94 he said. =93Thus, here is an opportunity to reflect on the pol= l numbers and what they mean. In short, I think we may have misunderstood the American voters. The polling numbers do not, as some have suggested, show a lack of a sense of moral outrage. Nor do they suggest that the voters are so myopic that they do not care about the private life of their president as long as the economy is sound and the nation is at peace.=94=20 Zogby attributes the reaction to a =93fundamental sense of fairness=94 in the American people. Without hearing Lewinsky herself, they are willing to give the president the benefit of the doubt. He also points out that Americans have a great respect for the institution of the presidency and recalls that President Nixon=92s poll numbers were quite high almost until the day he resigned during the Watergate scandal.=20 Zogby=92s 1996 track record made him something of a media star. From early on in the campaign, his polls predicted Clinton would win by a much smaller margin than any of the other major pollsters were showing. Ultimately, he not only got Clinton=92s eight-point margin of victory right, but was the only pollster who got the numbers for Bob Dole and Ross Perot right as well.=20 While the CBS/New York Times final poll predicted Clinton would win by 18 points, Zogby projected Clinton would win 49 percent, Bob Dole 41 percent, Ross Perot 8 percent and 2 percent for others. Those were the exact results on election day.=20 Joseph Farah is editor of the Internet newspaper WorldNetDaily.com and executive director of the Western Journalism Center, an independent group of investigative reporters.=20 =A91998, Western Journalism Center =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:21:15 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: CAS: Starbucks Murder-original Text-Flat Tire for Caity (fwd) This is the lady Linda Tripp saw coming out of Clinton's office with smeared lipstick, ruffled blouse and hair all messed up.=20 - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tuec, 10 Feb 1998 20:00:02 EST From: Synergyinv@aol.com To: cas@majordomo.pobox.com Subject: CAS: Starbucks Murder-original Text-Flat Tire for Caity =A0 3 Employees Killed At D.C. Starbucks Workers Found Shot in Back Room By Steve Vogel and Cheryl W. Thompson Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, July 8, 1997 ; Page A01 Three employees of a Starbucks coffee store near Georgetown were found brutally slain yesterday morning, sending shock waves through a community generally immune from such violence. The bodies of night manager Mary Caitrin Mahoney, 25, Emory Allen Evans, 25= , and Aaron David Goodrich, 18, were found at 5:15 a.m. in a back room of the store at 1810 Wisconsin Ave. NW, in Burleith, just north of Georgetown, pol= ice said. An employee arriving for work found the bodies. All three had been sh= ot several times. The distraught employee ran from the store and flagged down a passing Metro bus, screaming that people had been shot, according to a police supervisor. The driver of the bus notified police. Evans started working at the store part time about three weeks ago, and Goodrich had been hired several months ago, friends and relatives said. No money was taken from the store, police said. A police source at the scene said detectives were working "a solid lead" an= d examining whether a former employee might be involved. "We are definitely checking that out," he said. In response to the slayings, an official for Starbucks announced that secur= ity guards have been added to several local stores for an indefinite period. Police believe the slayings took place about the time the store closed at 8 p.m. Sunday. Several bullet casings were recovered at the scene but no weapon was found, according to a homicide detective. The slayings were the first for the chain, which has more than 1,200 locati= ons around the world, Torrenga said. D.C. Council member Jack Evans (D-Ward 2) described the killings as "horrible." "To have a triple homicide anywhere i= n the District of Columbia is an unusual event," said Evans, who represents t= he Georgetown area on the council. "To have a triple homicide in Georgetown is extraordinary. Georgetown has never been a place where crime has been a problem." Mahoney's silver 1994 Saturn sat alone in the parking lot adjacent to Starbucks, where she had left it the day before. The only possible indicati= on that something had gone awry was a FLAT TIRE [emphasis added] on the front passenger side of the car. Inside, the car was spotless, save for what look= ed like signs that Mahoney had recently spent time playing with a pet -- a dir= ty tennis ball, a plastic chew toy, a dog's brush and a red towel. Mahoney's grandmother had recently bought the car for her so she would be safer in the city. "She was brave," her mother, Mary Belle Annenberg, said during a telephone interview from the family's home in Baltimore. "She did = not want to live [her life] afraid."=20 And when she moved to Washington several years ago, she would jog alone an hour before daybreak, never worrying about being attacked or assaulted. "Caity was special," her mother said. "She had an enormous heart. She proba= bly would have compassion for the person who killed her." Mahoney, who lived in Northwest Washington, was the youngest of three child= ren and was looking forward to celebrating her 26th birthday July 22. She adore= d animals, particularly horses, and even took in Marlu, her sister Molly's toothless black-and-white alley cat. Mahoney attended Fordham University and Ithaca College in New York before graduating with honors from Towson State University, near Baltimore. A loya= l and active Democrat, she interned for President Clinton when he was first elected, arranging tours at the White House, her mother said.>>> Just making sure she didn't go anywhere with the flat tire? Only her car? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. 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