From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #109 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Friday, April 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 109 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Apr 98 18:59:20 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: Talk about sneaky... (fwd) On Apr 09, Eugene W. Gross wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Hi Folks, Well, while doing some nosing around I came across something that will blow your socks off!! Do you recall a while back that as part of the Immigration legislation a recommendation was made to come up with a real ID for citizens that would include some sort of biometric data (fingerprint, voice, etc.). There was such an outcry it was apparently scrapped -- NOT!!!! Hidden away in HR 3610 dealing with national defense on approximately page 650 is the requirement that each state implement some form of biometric information on a magnetic strip on the driver's license by NLT October 1, 2000. If they don't they lose government funding for highways and such. If you want to check this out, go to http://www.mcwebs.com/repeal/ Now, let me tell you that there are already four states doing it -- Texas, Colorado, Georgia, and California. I believe that North Carolina may have started as well, but my wife isn't home so I can't check her new DL. If ever there was a time for Christians to finally stand up, make it now!! This is being done so quietly that most people don't even know that it is being done. In addition, they are using your SSN for your DL number in most states now. They have no legal right to do that, and if you raise a stink, they will come up with a number -- especially if you make sure that they know that it is against federal law to use the SSN for such a purpose and you will turn this over to your attorney for his action. They don't want the boat rocked. So, what can you do? First, contact your state's DMV and find out if they have plans to implement this biometric intrusion. If you don't have the address and a contact, write me privately and I'll give it to you. Second, contact both your state legislators and federal legislators and let them know that you know what is being done. Find out where they stand and express strong disapproval of such biometric identification in very clear terms. And demand that your state reps commit to fighting this from happening in your state, or overturning it if it has already started in your state. Third, contact Cyndee Parker at the above Web page and keep informed. Folks, this is a major threat to our freedoms and privacy. Once all Americans are biometrically identified, they can do whatever they please to us. If they don't like our religious views, they can cut us off at the pass by taking away our DL. And making it against the law to buy or sell without the proper identification card -- which would include the biometric data. And if you have any contacts in the media, get this to them, too!! This was done in secret and hidden from the people. Such government is tyrannical and must be stopped now! En Agape, Gene [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 07:20:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Subject: RE: Affidavit of Nolanda Hill (fwd) - Why Ron Brown Had To Go??? Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 17:43:58 GMT From: BlackTech Mailing List - Reply-To: act@efn.org To: The.BlackTech.Mailing.List@wakko.efn.org Cc: Multiple.Constitutionalist.Mailing.Lists@wakko.efn.org Subject: RE: Affidavit of Nolanda Hill (fwd) - Why Ron Brown Had To Go??? On Thu, 9 Apr 1998 07:04:30 +0000, "Distribution@Vigo-Examiner.com" wrote: Affidavit of Nolanda Hill IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA JUDICIAL WATCH, INC. Plaintiff v. Civil Action No. 95-0133 (RCL UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, Defendant _______________________________________ Affidavit of Nolanda Butler Hill I, Nolanda Butler Hill, being duly sworn, deposes and says: 1. This affidavit is based on my own personal knowledge. 2. I have been a resident of Texas for all of my life and still reside there. 3. Up to the death of Ronald H. Brown, former Secretary of the U.S. Department of Commerce, I was a business partner and/or close personal confidant for over seven years. During this period, I spoke with Ron, as I used to call him, daily, and frequently several times per day. I was thus intimately knowledgeable about both his personal and professional activities. I also had contact with his family, including his son, Michael, and his daughter in law, Tamara, who worked for me for approximately five years. 4. During the course of my relationship with Ron, I was privy to his activities, and the activities of the people who worked or were in contact with him at Commerce, and elsewhere. Since Ron died on April 3, 1996, I have also been in contact and spoken with many persons who worked or were in contact with him at Commerce, and elsewhere. 5. After the elections of 1992, Ron became Secretary of Commerce. Shortly thereafter, Ron decided that he would focus the majority his activities at Commerce on trade missions. 6. In the fall of 1994, I became aware, through Ron and Jim Hackney, Ron's Counselor at Commerce - with whom I was and remain close - that a group called Judicial Watch filed Freedom of Information Act (FOIA requests to obtain information and documentation about the trade missions. Both Jim and I encouraged Ron at the time to give due consideration to the seriousness of these FOIA requests, as there were politically sensitive issues surrounding the trade missions. 7. After the elections of 1994, and the Democrats' loss of Congress, I became aware, through my discussions with Ron, that the trade missions were being used as a fundraising tool for the upcoming Clinton-Gore presidential campaign and the Democratic Party. Specifically, Ron told me that domestic companies were being solicited to donate large sums of money in exchange for their selection to participate on trade missions of the Commerce Department. Ron expressed to me his displeasure that the purpose of the Commerce trade missions had been and were being perverted at the direction of The White House. 8. In the spring of 1995, when this Court ordered production of documents to Judicial Watch, Ron became very concerned and he thus began to discuss with me the strategy of handling the defense of the Judicial Watch lawsuit. 9. I further learned through discussions with Ron that The White House, through Leon Panetta and John Podesta, had instructed him to delay the case by withholding the production of documents prior to the 1996 elections, and to devise a way not to comply with court's orders. 10. In late fall 1995, after several rulings or statements by this court, Ron himself became more involved in the defense of the case. Specifically, he told me that he had decided to personally review any documents that might be damaging to the Clinton Administration, or in any way be sensitive. Ron told me that he was very worried about the potential damage of the Judicial Watch case to the Clinton Administration. 11. In early 1996, Ron showed me a packet of documents, about 1 inch thick, which he removed from his ostrich skin portfolio. Ron told me that these documents had been provided to him from Commerce Department files as part of the collection efforts to produce documents to Judicial Watch in this case. I reviewed the top five or six documents, which were on Commerce Department letterhead under the signature of Melissa Moss of the Office of Business Liaison. What I reviewed comprised letters of Ms. Moss to trade mission participants, each of which specifically referenced a substantial financial contribution to the Democratic National Committee (DNC. My response was immediate and decisive. I told Ron he must instruct that production of these documents and all responsive documents be immediate and I advised him to mitigate his own damages by releasing Ms. Moss from her duties and admonishing her for using the offices of the Commerce Department for partisan political fundraising. 12. I then saw Ron call the Commerce Department and he spoke with Melissa Moss. He told her that he wanted to meet with her later. I do not know if the meeting ever took place and I had no further discussion with Ron, because of his untimely death, about the documents I had reviewed. 13. I have reviewed the deposition video of Melissa Moss and, based on my knowledge, she has not told the truth in response a number of questions concerning Commerce Department trade missions, as well as other representations she has made under oath. 14. I would like to come forward and tell this court everything I know about the failure to produce documents to Judicial Watch and this court. I am concerned, however, that if I do so, the Clinton Administration, and more particularly its Justice Department, will try to retaliate against me. As a result, I look to this court for guidance on how I can come forward and tell all I know in the interest of justice. 15. Because of a fear for my personal and my family's well-being and safety, I ask that this affidavit be kept under seal and that a mechanism be set up by the court for me to come forward to tell all I know. Sworn to under penalty of law. __________________________ Nolanda Butler Hill. Date [signed Jan. 17, 1998] Witness __________________________ D. R. Bustion II [Judicial Watch, P.O. Box 44444, Washington, DC 20026. Tel: (888 JWETHIC, Fax: (202 646-5199. Contributions are tax-deductible. Copyright 1997, Judicial Watch. All Rights Reserved.] - ---------- Published in the Apr. 6, 1998 issue of The Washington Weekly. Copyright 1998 The Washington Weekly http://www.federal.com. 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This is roughly what we spend on food, housing, transportation and medical care combined. The average American works from New Year's Day until May 9 just to pay for government. And you still say this is a free country? As the Heritage Foundation points out, even under Medieval feudalism, the serfs only had to turn over a third of their output to the lord of the manor. Yet serfdom was considered little better than slavery. Doubtless most Americans would bristle at the suggestion that they are little better than serfs. Then consider how the dead hand of government reaches into almost every corner of our lives. Government touches almost everything in our daily lives. It is almost impossible to do anything in this country without first obtaining the permission of some level of government, without getting a license or a permit, without bumping into some governmental rule or regulation. We've gotten ourselves into the predicament because, slowly and over time, we have forgotten the purpose of government, the reason for which we created it. As a panelist at a recent Republican gubernatorial forum in Derry, I asked the candidates a deceptively simple yet profound question: What is the purpose of government? Not one of the three, I am sad to report, came close to answering. This is because we've forgotten how to think about government. Mostly today we think that government's purpose is to "solve problems." And since there is no shortage of "problems," there is no limit on what we believe government should be doing. What is the purpose of government? It's simple: The purpose of government is to secure to ourselves and our posterity those unalienable rights to the freedom with which we have been endowed by our Creator, that among these rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Government exists, we created it, to advance freedom -- personal, individual freedom. Like Jefferson, I prefer a government that barely escapes being no government at all. Freedom is the natural state of man. So instead of getting bogged down in wrangling over which and how many problems government is going to solve -- though in truth government rarely "solves" anything since that is not its purpose -- and instead of engaging the Democrats in a bidding war over how much government the respective parties can deliver, Republicans should begin talking about freedom. Now, it's true that freedom is a tougher sell than dependency. It's hard to convince comfortable serfs that they would be better off free. Liberals, socialists and other feudal lords have figured out that you can win elections by promising to do all manner of wonderful things for the serfs -- and even force them to pay for such benefits. It's harder to tell people that what's best for them is the freedom to do things for themselves, but it must be done. Freedom is good for people. Republicans have to rediscover their faith in freedom. They need confidence that freedom can be a winning issue at the polling place. Republicans should cast every campaign issue in terms of freedom. Americans would be better off were parents free to send their children to the schools of their choosing. We would be better off were we free to choose our own doctors and control our own health care through medical savings accounts. We Americans would be better off were we free to invest our earnings in our own personal retirement accounts. Smoking is a filthy habit, but Americans should be free to decide for themselves if they wish to risk shortening their lives. Cheeseburgers are loaded with cholesterol, but we should be free to decide what to eat. Wouldn't it be better were we free to keep more of the money we work so hard to earn? As I say, freedom is a tough sell. Many people do not really wish to be free. This is why tyranny has to be resisted over and over again. Most people, as philosopher Erich Fromm pointed out four decades ago, secretly desire to "Escape From Freedom." Freedom implies responsibility and we humans, lazy creatures that we are, tend to prefer that others shoulder responsibility for our lives. It's easier to let someone else do the thinking and make the decisions. And human nature being what it is, down through history, from pharaohs to kings to dictators to social engineers, we've never had a shortage of elites willing to take on the job. If, however, Republicans were to raise the banner of freedom, then they would energize the GOP base. This is important. Off-year elections, in which there is no Presidential glamour to bring out the marginal voters, tend to become contests of party bases. Right now, Republicans have done little to energize their base. While it is true that the natural governing majority in the country is generally conservative, Republicans nevertheless must do something to energize this majority. Offering warmed-over Clintonism and a me-too-only-a-little-less statism is guaranteed to demoralize the GOP base and keep voters home on Election Day. Republicans in the coming election, then, should champion freedom -- clearly, joyfully, unapologetically, exuberantly. We must rekindle the spark of liberty that, surely, yet flickers in the American nation. The Union Leader ========================================================================== This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 17:34:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Subject: Unconvential Party Wins in Colorado (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Unconvential Party Wins in Colorado By SANDY SHORE GLENDALE, Colo. (AP) - What began as a mundane election in a bedroom community turned into a free-for-all over restrictions on strip clubs. The newly formed Glendale Tea Party, which invoked the American Revolution in claiming city leaders were running roughshod over individual and property rights, won all three seats that were on the ballot in Tuesday's nonpartisan election. Now Shotgun Willie's, one of two strip clubs in a Denver-area community dominated by businesses, apartment complexes and condominiums, is a political power base. ``I don't think they realized people like the club,'' said owner Debbie Matthews. ``The support we had was heartening.'' Small business owners backed the Tea Party candidates, who included a landscape project design manager, a nurse and a print shop owner. The losing candidates, supported by Mayor Joe Rice and other local leaders, wanted the city to attract families and more permanent residents. They contended the Tea Party was a political machine that spent thousands on the campaign. The most publicized issue was a proposed ordinance to tighten strip club regulations. The club owners said the law would have quickly put them out of business. ``We were being taxed. We had representation that did not give a fig about us, but was putting our property in jeopardy,'' said John Hill, owner of Mile High Saloon, the other strip club. Built on roughly a square mile surrounded by south Denver, Glendale has about 4,000 mostly low-income residents, who typically stay less than a year. The city has just three single-family homes. Glendale's daytime population swells to about 25,000 workers in retail, office complexes and two telemarketing centers. In years past, Glendale was known for its taverns, restaurants with celebrity clientele and strip clubs. But in the 1990s, city leaders began making changes designed to draw more permanent residents and families. Rice, who was elected mayor in 1996, said the city has built a 3-acre park on a former dump, added sidewalks, broke ground on a recreation center and reduced property taxes by 40 percent. But small business owners believe Rice and the council members targeted some businesses, particularly liquor license holders. The number of liquor license holders dwindled from 40 or 50 in the early 1990s to just three today, according to Ms. Matthews. The strip club ordinance was approved earlier this month, but has not taken effect. It would raise the age limit for dancers from 18 to 21, and impose a 6-foot barrier between the customers and the dancers, among other requirements. When the ordinance proposal surfaced, Ms. Matthews and others rallied about 40 residents and small business owners to create the Tea Party. Hill and Ms. Matthews maintained city leaders wanted to close their clubs to make way for redevelopment. Rice denied this: ``There are a lot of projects that just made sense to do. There were no secret meetings. Everything was public,'' he said. During the campaign, the Tea Party also opposed state legislation backed by Rice that would have allowed Denver and Glendale to adjust their boundaries without voter approval. They also questioned the cost of a city-financed $2.9 million education center, among other issues. The Tea Party invested at least $11,000 in the campaign, while Citizens for a Better Glendale, which supported the opposing candidates, said it raised about $550. One of the first orders of business for the new council probably will be the repeal of the strip club ordinance. ``I'm feeling positive about the community for the first time in years,'' Hill said. ``I'm not feeling like I'm on death row hoping for a phone call from the governor.'' - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 98 14:38:05 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: [Fwd: White House Database doc: ORDERING THE SELECTED RESERVE OF THE ARMED FORCES TO ACTIVE DUTY] (fwd) On Apr 10, JVS wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------3F3DDB726781BD952E212EE1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --------------3F3DDB726781BD952E212EE1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from server1.ols.net (root@server1.ols.net [206.27.1.1]) by Kirk.NetUnlimited.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA28532 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:40:13 -0400 (EDT) From: preacher@ols.net Received: from ws-dialin7.ols.net (ws-dialin7.ols.net [206.27.13.10]) by server1.ols.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA00289 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:40:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:40:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804101540.LAA00289@server1.ols.net> X-Sender: preacher@ols.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: farout@netunlimited.net Subject: White House Database doc: ORDERING THE SELECTED RESERVE OF THE ARMED FORCES TO ACTIVE DUTY Hey brother, heres more troops that won't be of any help to us in time of need! In christian love, bro. John >X-Sender: eagleflt@mail.eagleflt.com >Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 23:29:15 -0400 >To: "72113.1673"<72113.1673@compuserve.com> >From: "eagleflight----uNITED STATES Theatre Command----David E. Rydel" >Subject: White House Database doc: ORDERING THE SELECTED RESERVE OF THE > ARMED FORCES TO ACTIVE DUTY >X-UIDL: 2dee810647c5954692f0f5622191fa30 > >>>>> >Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:37:23 -0600 >From: "David E. Parsons" >To: Y_M >Subject: White House Database doc: ORDERING THE SELECTED RESERVE OF THE ARMED FORCES TO ACTIVE DUTY > >Could this explain the increase in Military activity? >http://library.whitehouse.gov/cgi-bin/web_fetch_doc?dataset=Dataset-Executi veOrder&db=ExecutiveOrders&doc_id=181&query=april+1998+executive+orders >
> > > White House Database doc: ORDERING THE SELECTED RESERVE OF THE ARMED FORCES TO ACTIVE DUTY >---------------- > > >Executive Orders > >ORDERING THE SELECTED RESERVE OF THE ARMED FORCES TO ACTIVE DUTY > > >---------------- > THE WHITE HOUSE > > Office of the Press Secretary > >________________________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release February 24, 1998 > > > > EXECUTIVE ORDER > > - - - - - - - > > ORDERING THE SELECTED RESERVE OF THE ARMED FORCES TO ACTIVE DUTY > > > By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 121 and 12304 of title 10, United States Code, I hereby determine that it is necessary to augment the active armed forces of the United States for the effective conduct of operations in and around Southwest Asia. Further, under the stated authority, I hereby authorize the Secretary of Defense, and the Secretary of Transportation with respect to the Coast Guard when it is not operating as a service in the Department of the Navy, to order to active duty any units, and any individual members not assigned to a unit organized to serve as a unit, of the Selected Reserve. > > This order is intended only to improve the internal management of the executive branch and is not intended to create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law by a party against the United States, its agencies, its officers, or any person. > > > WILLIAM J. CLINTON > > THE WHITE HOUSE > ><http://www.whitehouse.gov/cgi-bin/pagegen.cgi><http://www.whitehouse.gov/W H/html/library.html><http://www.whitehouse.gov/WH/html/helpdsk.html> > >---------------- >To comment on this service: <http://www.whitehouse.gov/cgi-bin/Correspondence/Mail_Developers>feedback@w ww.whitehouse.gov - --------------3F3DDB726781BD952E212EE1-- [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 98 14:38:57 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: [Fwd: TOTAL BAN ON HANDGUNS STARTS TODAY] (fwd) On Apr 10, JVS wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------3089E8BDB5F6EED9B6E5BF95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a must read! - --------------3089E8BDB5F6EED9B6E5BF95 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from server1.ols.net (root@server1.ols.net [206.27.1.1]) by Kirk.NetUnlimited.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA18317 for <farout@netunlimited.net>; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:17:30 -0400 (EDT) From: preacher@ols.net Received: from ws-dialin7.ols.net (ws-dialin7.ols.net [206.27.13.10]) by server1.ols.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28760 for <farout@netunlimited.net>; Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:17:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199804101517.LAA28760@server1.ols.net> X-Sender: preacher@ols.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: farout@netunlimited.net Subject: TOTAL BAN ON HANDGUNS STARTS TODAY >X-Sender: eagleflt@mail.eagleflt.com >Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 23:39:07 -0400 >To: "72113.1673"<72113.1673@compuserve.com> >From: "eagleflight----uNITED STATES Theatre Command----David E. Rydel" <eagleflt@eagleflt.com> >Subject: TOTAL BAN ON HANDGUNS STARTS TODAY >X-UIDL: b6de7c746ee4391b43efac2d24ae6f88 > >>>>> >Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 18:52:57 -0600 >From: "David E. Parsons" >To: Bub2433 >Subject: TOTAL BAN ON HANDGUNS STARTS TODAY > >We are next if HCI gets their way. >http://www.twoten.press.net/stories/98/01/26/headlines/LEGAL_Guns_Ban.html ><BUSINESS_Racal.html>Previous Release <index.html>Return to Index <SEA_Raf_Rescue.html>Next Release >TOTAL BAN ON HANDGUNS STARTS TODAY >TOTAL BAN ON HANDGUNS STARTS TODAY > A major step forward in public safety was made today as a total ban on handguns came into force. Following the hand-in last year of large-calibre weapons, the Government extended the ban to small-calibre weapons. A month-long hand-in period, beginning on 1 February, will now take out of circulation those small-calibre weapons which have not already been given up voluntarily. Emphasising public safety is the Government's number one priority, Home Office Minister Alun Michael said: ''Britain now has some of the toughest gun laws in the world. Following the successful removal last year of large-calibre handguns, this second hand-in will fulfil the Government's commitment to improving public safety by removing the remaining small-calibre handguns from our society. ''In 1996, there were 294 incidents reported to the police in which handguns were stolen. By prohibiting handguns, there will be fewer legally-held weapons at risk of theft and being used in crime. ''Owners of small-calibre handguns who hand in their weapons during the surrender period will receive compensation under the scheme agreed by Parliament. ''We have received over 40,000 claims so far and made over 26,000 payments totalling nearly 31 million. Staffing has been increased and weekend work introduced to make progress as quickly as possible on payments, including the additional claims we now expect for the remaining small-calibre handguns. ''The current turn round time is around 21 weeks and though we understand the frustration of those who are awaiting payment, claimants can help speed the process by trying not to make enquiries about the progress of their claim. Answering these questions can create further delay by increasing the already heavy workload of staff. ''A recorded message, which is regularly updated, giving details of the latest processing times is available on the enquiry line 0171 271 8977. ''The last hand-in period went smoothly, thanks to the hard work of the police and officials, and the responsible attitude of many gun owners. As with the last surrender period, gun owners are being contacted by their local police and being told when they need to hand in their weapons. ''Though we appreciate that many gun owners regret losing their sport, we now urge them to hand in their weapons before the end of February. The penalties for illegal possession are severe - the maximum penalty is 10 years imprisonment - and guns must be handed in before the end of February in order to qualify for compensation. ''I believe that by taking firm, decisive action, the Government has put a firm brake on the development of a dangerous gun culture in the UK.'' Notes for editors 1. The Firearms Amendment Act 1997 banned large-calibre handguns from general use. As a result, a total of 116,000 such weapons were handed in. During this large-calibre hand-in, an additional 26,000 small-calibre weapons were surrendered voluntarily. 2. The small-calibre handguns surrender period will begin on 1 February and last until the end of February. Claims for up to 10,000 pistols and equipment are expected under this final hand-in. 3. The total cost of compensation for both small and large-calibre weapons is expected to be 166 million. >---------------- ><#top>Return to the top of the page > >---------------- > 1997 Two-Ten Communications Limited - --------------3089E8BDB5F6EED9B6E5BF95-- [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Apr 98 17:25:11 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Repeal Sporting Purposes Test (fwd) On Apr 10, Douglas Davis wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >Return-Path: <goamail@gunowners.org> >Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 16:58:33 -0400 >From: Gun Owners of America <goamail@gunowners.org> >Reply-To: Gun Owners of America <goamail@gunowners.org> >To: goamail@gunowners.org >Subject: Repeal Sporting Purposes Test > >GOA Denounces Clinton Gun Ban >-- Calls for passage of Rep. Paul's "sporting purposes" repeal > >by Gun Owners of America >8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151, >(703)321-8585, http://www.gunowners.org >(Friday, April 10, 1998) > > >On Monday, Gun Owners of America condemned President Clinton's >move to ban the importation of 58 semi-automatic firearms. >GOA spokesmen conducted interviews and appeared on national >talk shows to denounce the ban, which covers designs based on >AK-47, FN-FAL, HK 91 and 93, Uzi and SIG SG550 rifles. > >"President Clinton has simply affirmed what he has always >believed," said Larry Pratt, Executive Director of Gun Owners >of America. "Clinton really believes that the Second >Amendment is about duck hunting." > >This recent gun ban also helps expose the incremental approach >to banning guns that Sarah Brady's organization (HCI) has been >pushing for years. Indeed, in discussing the then-upcoming >import ban last October, one White House official was quoted >in the Los Angeles Times (10/22/97) as saying, "We are taking >the law and bending it as far as we can to capture a whole >new class of guns." > >GOA was quick to point out, however, that the blame for this >ban does not entirely fall on the president's shoulders. >"Congress must repeal the unconstitutional sporting purposes >test," said Pratt. "And the best way to do this is to pass >Rep. Ron Paul's bill." > >Pratt was referring to H.R. 2721, a bill in Congress that >would repeal the sporting purposes provisions of the 1968 Gun >Control Act. "If Congress were to repeal that aspect of the >'68 Act, the President would not be empowered to circumvent >the Constitution by enforcing unconstitutional regulations," >Pratt said. > >The President has capitalized on provisions of the 1968 Act, >stipulating that imported firearms must be "particularly >suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes." > >This "sporting purposes" distinction is an unconstitutional >hairsplitting that bans the import of some firearms merely >because they are used to defend one's family, rather than to >shoot deer. > >The Second Amendment does protect hunters and sportsmen - but >only within a larger context. The founding fathers realized >that Americans would use their firearms to protect >themselves, their families, and their country. > >HERE'S WHAT TO DO: > >1. Urge your Representative (1-800-504-0031) to cosponsor >H.R. 2721. This bill, introduced by Rep. Paul (R-TX), would >not only repeal the "sporting purposes" test, it would also >repeal the onerous Brady registration law and the Clinton >semi-auto ban of 1994. Repealing the sporting purposes test >would forever remove the ability of future Presidents to ban >guns based on "sporting purposes" criteria. > >2. Gun owners in the states below should contact the >Republican members of the Treasury Appropriations >Subcommittees. Congress can amend the Treasury appropriations >bill to defund the ability of any administrative official from >keeping the above-mentioned firearms out of the country. Urge >the Congressmen below to introduce and support an amendment >stating that no Treasury funds may be used to enforce the >Clinton import ban. > >House/Senate Republicans on Treasury Appropriation Subcoms. >All fax numbers begin with "202" > > Fax E-Mail >Rep. Aderholt (AL) 225-5587 >Rep. Kolbe (AZ) 225-0378 jimkolbe@mail.house.gov >Rep. Forbes (NY) 225-3143 mpforbes@mail.gouse.gov >Rep. Northup (KY) 225-5776 >Rep. Istook (OK) 226-1463 istook@mail.house.gov >Rep. Wolf (VA) 225-0437 >Sen. Shelby (AL) 224-3416 senator@shelby.senate.gov >Sen. Campbell (CO) 224-1933 >Sen. Faircloth (NC) 224-7406 senator@faircloth.senate.gov > >*********************************************************** >Are you receiving this as a cross-post? To be certain of >getting up-to-the-minute information, please consider >joining the GOA E-mail Alert Network directly. The service >is free, your address remains confidential, and the volume >is quite low: five messages a week would be a busy week >indeed. To subscribe, simply send a message (or forward >this notice) to goamail@gunowners.org and include your >state of residence in either the subject line or the body. > > > > ****************** Firearms, self-defense, and other information, with LINKS are available at: http://shell.rmi.net/~davisda Latest additions are found in the group NEW with GOA and other alerts under the heading ALERTS. 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