From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #160 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Friday, July 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 160 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:34:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul M Watson Subject: Clinton FOB life expectancy (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 13:16:15 -0700 From: "Maher, Steve \(SD-EX\)" > CLINTON-WITNESS LIFE EXPECTANCY > HITS ALL TIME LOW > > With the death at age 29 of Little Rock transmission shop owner > Johnny Lawhon, the average life expectancy for witnesses against > Bill Clinton has dropped dramatically. Lawhon, who last year > discovered a Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan cashiers check > made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of an abandoned car, died in > a car crash early Sunday morning. He becomes the second witness > connected to that evidence to die within a month. The first, former > Madison Guaranty owner James McDougal, was found dead in his jail > cell just three weeks prior to Lawhon's fatal accident. > Prior to Lawhon's death, insurance industry experts had calculated > the average life expectancy for Clinton scandal witnesses at a full > 49.3 years. But given Mr. Lawhon's relative youth, Clinton-witness > actuarial tables have been revised down to a median AOD (age of death) > of just 44.8 years. > That figure may plummet even further, should actuarial experts > decide to include the death of former White House intern Mary Caity > Mahoney, who was shot to death last year at the age of 25. > Given this trend, industry sources say they may begin screening > life insurance candidates for a new risk factor - a past or present, > direct or indirect association with Bill Clinton. Such a risk > factor might be weighed in the manner insurers currently evaluate > those who participate in high-risk activities like skydiving, > motorcycling or heavy smoking. > Carl of Oyster Bay > > Paul Watson pwatson@utdallas.edu Sr.Buyer UTD The University of Texas at Dallas 972-883-2307, fax 972-883-2348 - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:35:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul M Watson Subject: GOP road to Hell, National ID Card (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 18:02:08 -0600 From: "Howard H. Bleicher" Subject: CAS: OT: "Scan This News"..The GOP National ID The GOP National ID Increasing attention is finally being given to the fact that we in America are very close to having foisted upon us a national identification system. Gradually, faint echoes of "repeal" are being heard with regard to the national ID implementing legislation. As this idea begins to take hold, we must remain vigilantly aware that: It was the GOP who implemented the national ID program. Between 1994 and 1996 the Republican Congress almost independently enacted the legislation which now serves as the foundation for the national ID system -- the one we are currently scrambling to dismantle. Whether it was through simple ignorance or out right intent, it is GOP legislation which the national ID system is being based on. And, therefore, failure on our part to pay scrutinizingly close attention to all future related GOP actions may well result in the implementation of a "cure" much worse than the disease. Representatives Ron Paul and Bob Barr have recently undertaken -- on their own, individual initiative -- an effort to cut the legs out from under the national ID plan. These two genuinely understand the great harm a national ID system will cause this country. They both know what should be done to stop it. But theirs will be a difficult (if not impossible) task unless a significantly large segment of the American public quickly acts in a strong show of support for their effort. Once the ID system is fully in place, there will be no way to undo it. As with all other liberty-and-rights-encroaching Congressional acts, the most we can possibly HOPE to do now is to merely REGAIN some of the rights, liberties, and freedoms we recently lost. I was recently reminded of the communist motto: "Two steps forward and one step back." Those who would endeavor to steal our liberties know that if they enact fifteen laws encroaching our freedom, we'll spend nearly all our time, effort, and resources to only succeed in countering a small fraction of their enactments, and so the agenda advances. Their efforts are typically successful because they too have a method to tap our very own resources to finance their cause. As a result of the "Republican majority" coming to power in 1994 -- led by Newt Gingrich, Bill Archer, and Bob Dole -- we were inundated with new, liberty-seizing legislation. Perhaps the most socially destructive of all the Republican's efforts were the multiple acts which increase in requirements for Social Security numbers for use as universal identifiers. Under the provisions of the numerous Republican acts Social Security numbers have become mandatory as a condition for participation in what were previously unconditional, constitutionally protected, societal rights. And consequentially the SSN has become an integral component of the national identification document scheme. GATT REQUIREMENTS-- REPUBLICANS INSTITUTE "NUMBERED AT BIRTH" PROGRAM The GOP/SSN/NID program all began back in 1994, when the 103rd Congress enacted the GATT "implementing legislation" known as the "Uruguay Round Agreements Act." This act instituted the "numbering at birth" program. During Senate floor debates regarding the WTA/GATT implementing legislation, Republican Senator Pete Domenici spoke in strong favor of adopting the act. He made the following comments in an exchange with Senator Patrick Moynihan: Mr. DOMENICI: "A final question of special concern is that GATT requires that every United States citizen receive an identification number at birth, and that this matter is unrelated and irrelevant to matters of trade. The answer is that this requirement is included in the implementing language of GATT; it is not part of the GATT itself. This language was included in the implementing legislation because to ensure accurate assessments of income taxes, improper deductions on tax returns must be minimized." Mr. MOYNIHAN: "It is the Social Security number." Mr. DOMENICI: "The Social Security number, that is right. As a consequence, this section is designed to reduce tax cheating by people who claim children they do not have, which has the effect of reducing their taxes." (Congressional Record, Pg. S15274-S15275, 1994) (H.R. 5110 Uruguay Round Agreements Act, 1994, P.L. 103-465) Senator Domenici went on to acknowledged that the Act did, in fact, impose a requirement for every United States citizen to be numbered at birth; and he argued that such a requirement was necessary in order to comply with GATT. WELFARE REFORM REQUIREMENTS-- REPUBLICANS CREATE NATIONAL TRACKING DATABASE AND SEEK TO MAKE STATES REQUIRE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS FOR ALL LICENSING PROGRAMS In January of 1995, during the "First One-Hundred Days," Republican Congresswoman Nancy Johnson sponsored the "Child Support Responsibility Act of 1995" (H.R. 785). Her amendments to the Social Security Act included establishment of "locating and tracking" databases, and new governmental reporting requirements under the guise of "cracking down on deadbeat dads." Ms. Pat Schroeder had these comments about the Republican child support enforcement bill: "The central component of the Child Support Responsibility Act of 1995 is the creation of a national databank that expands the Federal Parent Locator Service and establishes a Federal Child Support Registry. Highlights of the new bill include: "Restricts professional, occupational, and business licenses of noncustodial parents who have failed to pay child support. "Restricts driver's licenses and vehicle registration of noncustodial parents who fail to appear in child support proceedings." (Congressional Record pg. H892, 1995) Also in 1995, Republican Representative Bill Archer introduced a similarly worded bill, H.R. 1214. His bill additionally proposed to amend Title 42 of the U.S. Code, section 405(c) so as to require that all states "shall require" Social Security numbers in the administration of their driver's licensing programs. This bill, and H.R. 785, were eventually incorporated into H.R. 4, The Contract With America, Welfare Reform Act. In the Senate a similarly worded bill, S.906, was cosponsored by Republican Senators Bob Dole and Olympia Snowe. (Congressional Record, pg. S2841, 1996) During floor discussion on H.R. 4, Republican Congresswoman Marge Roukema re-introduced amendments requiring all license applicants in the several states to submit SSNs. The claimed purpose was to locate and suspend the licenses of individuals who had violated child support laws (totally unrelated the licensed activity). Republican Congresswoman Morella had this to say about the proposed measure: "[T]his license revocation amendment is so very important to child support enforcement. It had its inception in the Women's Caucus child support bill in the last Congress. It was also contained in the Women's Caucus bill this year, too. This says States must have license revocation procedures in place. The children of America deserve this." (Congressional Record pg. H3629-3631, 1995) Republican Congresswoman Nancy Johnson stated: "The Child Support Responsibility Act, which we introduced earlier this year along with Congresswomen Connie Morella, Patricia Schroeder, and Eleanor Holmes Norton, has been largely adopted into the welfare reform bill before us today. The legislation sets up interacting State databases of child support orders, which will be matched against basic 'new hire' data so that State child support officials can locate missing, non-paying parents." And, Republican Congressman Cunningham concluded: "I rise in support of the amendment. I would like to advise the gentlewoman from Colorado, it is the Republican bill that is passing it." Yes, IT WAS the Republicans who passed this bill. On March 23, 1995, Republican Congressman Weller (IL) spoke on behalf of the Republicans regarding the "child support enforcement" measure. In support of final passage of the Personal Responsibility Reform Act (H.R. 4), Representative Weller said this: "[A]s one of the chief sponsors of the Family Reinforcement Act, I rise in strong support of the goals of child support enforcement provisions and the Personal Responsibility Act. All are Republican welfare reform initiatives. Let us vote for real reform that helps kids, helps children. Let us pass H.R. 4 tomorrow on Friday." (Congressional Record pg. H3705, 1995) On August 05, 1995, Republican Senator Bob Dole sponsored the final version of H.R. 4, the Child Support Enforcement amendments, in the Senate. (The Work Opportunity Act of 1995, was also referred to as the Personal Responsibility Act of 1995.) This bill included all of the SSN requirements which laid the groundwork for the national ID. (C.R. S11640, 1995) Meanwhile, back in the House, Republican Representative Goodling said this about the final draft of H.R. 4: "This conference report comes at the end of a long and often difficult process. I want to express my appreciation of my colleagues who have not only worked so hard to achieve a conference agreement but stood firm in helping us negotiate with the other body to achieve a final agreement. I especially want to express my appreciation to the [Republican] Speaker [Newt Gingrich] and to the majority leader, as well as to [Republican] Chairman Archer and [Republican] Chairman Shaw for their leadership during the conference with the Senate." (C.R., pg. H15511, 1995) Republican Representative Bill Archer offered his final comments regarding H.R. 4, just prior to it being finally approved by the House. Speaking in exuberant support of the bill, Representative Archer stated: "We bring forward today a great bill..." "Mr. Speaker, this is a great bill and a great opportunity to solve one of our Nation's most vexing problems. "This is a bill that only an extreme liberal could oppose. I urge all my colleagues to fix welfare and vote for his conference report." (C.R., pg. H15511, 1995) The Republican Congress did, in fact, do just as Dole and Archer had asked. On December 29, 1995, Congress PASSED H.R. 4, the Contract With America, Welfare Reform Act of 1995. (C. R., H15658, 1995) However, President Bill Clinton VETOED H.R. 4, immediately thereafter. Then, within just a few short months of Clinton's veto -- during the very first part of the 1996 session--the Republican Congress once again considered virtually the very same welfare reform act that Clinton had just vetoed (this time as "Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996," or PRWORA, Public Law 104-193, H.R. 3453). And this time it was quickly enacted with little or no resistance or fanfare. BALANCED BUDGET ACT REQUIREMENTS-- REPUBLICANS THREATEN SUSPENSION OF FEDERAL WELFARE FUNDING TO EXTORT STATES INTO REQUIRING SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS FOR ALL STATE-ISSUED LICENSES With enactment of the Balanced Budget Act of 1997 (Public Law: 105-33, H.R. 2015) the Welfare Reform Act was further expanded (this time deceptively as a "technical correction") so as to now require Social Security numbers from ALL driver's license applicants. Initially, the only way the Republicans could get the SSN-for-licenses requirements passed was to limit the "driver's license" requirement to only "commercial" driver's licenses. But in 1997, in a well thought out slight of hand, Republican members crafted a "technical corrections" bill that would consummate the ugly job begun the previous year. Regarding these "technical corrections" Representative Levin had this to tell his fellow Congress members: "Today we are considering the Welfare Reform Technical Corrections Act of 1997. This legislation will correct technical problems that impact implementation of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act. ... As we all know, it is inevitable when we pass comprehensive legislation that we must go back and correct technical errors. ... Each of the measures in this bill is technical in nature and does not change the substance of the new law." Mrs. Kennelly of Connecticut said: "I thank the gentleman from Florida [Mr. Shaw] and the gentleman from Michigan [Mr. Levin] for their hard work. I know that there are some who might say there is more interesting work than technical corrections but nothing is more important across this country to people who really do not know exactly what is said in the statute and, therefore, have to interpret it and live by it." Representative Kennelly was one of the chief sponsors of the initial license revocation amendments. She know full well, all along, that the initial act only applied to "commercial" driver's licenses. This was the scheme used to get it passed. And remember Republican Representative Goodling who was quoted earlier as saying how pleased he was with Bob Archer's work on the requirements for SSNs contained in the previous act? Well, here's what Goodling said about the "technical corrections": "I am pleased to support H.R. 1048, the Welfare Reform Technical Corrections Act of 1997. This legislation makes a number of technical and clarifying amendments to the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996-- the welfare reform law--that Congress passed and President Clinton signed last year." "I want to emphasize that these amendments are technical and clarifying in nature and do not change or undercut the important reforms of welfare that we made last year." Are we supposed to believe this? Isn't there some law against lying to Congress? These Republican "technical corrections" changed the SSN reporting requirement so that instead of the law applying to only the very small and limited class of "commercial" driver's -- as originally written -- it now applied to ALL 180 million "non-commercial" citizen drivers! This "minor change" made the Act more individuals than does most other "major" legislation. The 1997 "technical corrections" bill also added recreational and sporting (i.e., hunting, fishing, boating) licenses to the list of items for which a SSN is required. As amended in 1997, via the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, the Republicans' Welfare Reform Act now imposes funding-contingent requirements upon ALL state agencies that they must obtain Social Security numbers from ALL applicants in the issuance of driver's licenses, professional licenses, occupational licenses, sporting and recreational licenses, birth certificates, death certificates, marriage certificates, and divorce decrees. States failing to implement these requirements will lose all federal welfare funding. IMMIGRATION CONTROL REQUIREMENTS-- REPUBLICANS SEAL THE DEAL ON THE LAST PIECES OF THE NATIONAL ID SYSTEM PUZZLE And, finally, a piece of Republican legislation (now law) is just about to be implemented by way of the recently proposed Department of Transportation driver's license regulation -- which will ultimately result in the inevitable establishment of a standardized national identification document system. In 1996 Congress began debate on the "Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996," H.R. 2202 (which eventually became Public Law 104-208 now serving as the impetus for the proposed rule). At that time, Republican Senator Alan Simpson proposed a series of amendments to the original version of the Immigration Reform bill which included all the requirements forcing the states to standardize birth certificates and driver's licenses by October 1, 2000. (C.R. Pg. S4390-4393, 1996) His amendments were eventually incorporated into the enacted bill. U.S. Republican Senator Phil Graham did speak out openly and strongly against H.R. 2202, but his effort was not independently sufficient in stopping the larger GOP plan. Also, Senator Abraham spoke against the bill and said that it would result in the establishment of a natal ID. He stated: "This [bill] will force States to conform to Federal standards in issuing these documents, because States' citizens will want to be able to use them for Federal purposes. It is an intrusion into an area properly subject to State control and another step toward a national identification system. It is unnecessary and it should not be undertaken. (C.R. Pg. S11886, 1996) Ultimately, the Republican majority won out and the Illegal Immigration Reform Act was approved along with the national ID. TAX CREDITS FOR CHILDREN REQUIREMENTS-- REPUBLICANS USE TAX PENALTIES TO FORCE THE SHACKLES OF SSNs ONTO CHILDREN; NUMBER THEM, OR THEY DON'T EXIST As recently as last year, (1997) the Republican Congress again imposed new SSN reporting requirements; this time with the consequence of a stiff new tax penalty for anyone who opposes it. The screws have been steadily and incrementally tightened over the recent years on the requirement to furnish a SSN in order to receive child tax credits. This past year Congress turned the screws the final full turn and passed the "Taxpayer "Relief Act of 1997" (talk about a misnomer) (H.R. 2014) which further requires that every parent must use numbers to identify their children in order to claim them for tax credits. As a consequence of this Republican enactment, the federal government will not recognize nor acknowledge that you even have children (or that they are yours) unless you have them numbered. Again our "conservative" Republican Congress (in furtherance of the "Contract On America") has imposed yet another new tax stipulation designed to force all parents who haven't done so already to number their children. (This is similar to the GATT enumeration at birth legislation; just another nail in the coffin.) IT WAS THE GOP THAT PASSED ALL OF IT!!! So far, ONLY Representatives Ron Paul and Bob Barr who have stepped up to the plate and offered to do anything to repeal the GOP numbering and tracking program. Absent their success, every American will be tracked from cradle to grave. So far, two -- TWO -- Republican Representatives have taken real action to turn this all around. As with all vices and offences, the first step towards correction is to first admit the failure. Then, where harm has been caused, apologies are in order and immediate corrective measures engaged. Not until the GOP undertakes those prerequisites will we have any real hope of stopping the national ID. Once the GOP remembers that this is America, once the GOP actually dismantles the machinery of slavery THEY have hammered into place -- perhaps then will be time enough for commendations and praise for the GOP. In the mean time, the national identification plan should be labeled, known as, AND GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS: "The GOP National ID" Scott McDonald Reply to: - - -- howardb3@ix.netcom.com ========================================================================== This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas Paul Watson pwatson@utdallas.edu Sr.Buyer UTD The University of Texas at Dallas 972-883-2307, fax 972-883-2348 - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:52:36 -0700 From: Boyd Kneeland Subject: Re: Gun Poll (fwd) as of 8:50 PST 7/9 results for the poll below: Yes.....63.4% No.....31.3% Not sure.....5.2% Ttl votes.....7378 At 6:19 PM -0800 7/8/98, Bill Vance wrote: >On Jul 08, Josh Amos wrote: > >[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > > >We are getting hammered here too > >http://www.usatoday.com/news/nfront.htm > > >[------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] > >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- >An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no >weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his >hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a >on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > >- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 98 08:36:48 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Posse> Constitutionist's Networking Center Intro On Jul 10, by way of Bill Utterback wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 09 Jul 98 13:10:43 PDT From: Walter L Myers To: ? Kling , Carl Klang , CATS , Chuck , Cindy Furnare , >From - Constitutionist's Networking Center, 442 E 1250 Rd., Baldwin, KS 66006 - Ph/fax 785-594-3367 - E-mail cnc@idir.net To - awakened, concerned and responsible Americans everywhere: Subject - Identifying concerned and responsible Constitutionists INTRODUCTION - Please bear with me as I introduce myself and the why of this letter. I'm Walter Myers, Executive Director of the Constitutionist's Networking Center (CNC). My last paid position was as Chief of the Plans and Programs Division of the General's Staff, U. S. Air Force Military Training Center, Lackland AFB, TX. I say that to say this. My background has convinced me of the logic in the old adage "plan your work and work your plan" and of the need for Constitutionist's to heed that advice. The CNC is a limited membership organization - not because we are elitists - - but because we want to network with every individual and organization sharing our beliefs and goal. This would be impossible if we were trying to proselytize the members of those we hope to work with in pursuit of that goal. The CNC was formed Constitution day, 1993 by people concerned over the course of our nation and who strongly believe that altering it demands unity - NOT IN BODY- but in spirit and action; unity which can best be achieved thru proper planning. For more information on the CNC, see www.cypress.idir.net/~cnc. PURPOSE - The purpose of this communication is to try to identify individuals and organizational leaders of like mind; ie., people who share a concern over the direction our nation is headed and who wish to see AMERICA (in the words of General Raymond G. Davis, USMC, rtd) do an ABOUT FACE. He's encouraging veterans and pastors to provide leadership at the local level.Those interested can contact him via fax at 770-474-2260. BACKGROUND - The CNC believes there are now enough concerned people to reclaim control of government if they will jointly develop and implement an action plan. Further, we believe the plan must insure participants can retain their independence and freedom to pursue their special interests (ie., do their own thing) while working together on the few actions through which they can Take America Back. We also believe that only by reclaiming control of our institutions of government can concerned Americans peacefully resolve the many issues before them. We suggest that for a plan to receive the needed acceptance, its potential supporters must have an opportunity to help develop it. This is especially true on the few items forming the foundation for their position on issues, the problem they face and a goal. Once an individual or organization agrees on these items, they automatically become members of a team. Its then a matter of laying egos aside long enough to work with others in implementing the plan. The following is an outline of what the CNC suggests the plan should contain. I will try to provide enough detail to permit you to decide if your interests track close enough with ours to justify further communication. If you have questions, please call 785-594-3367 or e-mail me. If we don't hear from you, we will assume we have a different goal and/or that you have no interest in working with others in defining or implementing a jointly developed plan. KEYS TO UNITY - The CNC suggests that the three key elements forming the basis for "teaming up" to TAKE AMERICA BACK are: 1. a set of premises upon which the team will rely for its position on issues. 2. a common understanding of the problem we face. 3. a goal. Via CNC media release 93.2, we cited our premises as follows. In addition to providing a foundation to build on, we suggest adoption of a few undeniable truths is a preemptive act. It will help prevent being unfairly labeled as "far right", the "other Americans" or affiliates of some discredited organization. Therefore, the CNC suggests every Constitutionally committed individual and group choosing to help implement a plan adopt a position paper containing their beliefs. Ours follow but may change to reflect comments offered by others. 1. The Declaration of Independence is our Nation's birth certificate and the cornerstone of our Constitution. Its policies are to be pursued in conducting our Nation's affairs. 2. There can only be one set of Supreme policies and laws for any Nation. For the U.S., the set includes our Declaration of Independence, Constitution for the U.S. (including the Bill of Rights), the Constitution's for the indi-vidual States and all lawfully ratified Amendments whose pros, cons, and full impact were understood by voters and their representatives prior to ratification and whose purpose was - and is - - in pursuance of the principles, procedures and intent of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution's Preamble. 3. The Bill of Rights are restrictions on government and theoretically prohibit it from making laws which infringe on those Rights. To be lawful, an ordinance or law cannot infringe upon any Right set forth in the Bill of Rights. 4. Any lawful change to the form, policies, principles and/or operational procedures of our duly constituted government must be approved by 75% of our state legislatures. Since no state has ratified major changes to them, any Treaty, Charter, Foreign Constitution, covenant, Legislative Act, International Convention, etc. must be in pursuance of the spirit and intent of the principles set forth in our nation's founding documents to be lawful. 5. The Constitution of the U.S. is a Compact between"free and independent states." Through this Compact, they, on behalf of we the sovereign people, created the federal government as an AGENT. As the principals to the Constitution and under the Law of Agency, it is we the people, operating through our State legislatures, who possess the ultimate authority and responsibility for the Constitution's proper interpretation and implementation. 6. The U. S. Supreme Court was correct in saying: a. "This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty." (Reid vs. Covert) b. "All laws repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." (Marbury vs. Madison) c. "Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them." (Miranda vs. Arizona) 7. The Constitution's 10th Amendment stating "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution ... are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people" and the statement in Federalist Paper #41saying "For what purpose could the enumeration of particular powers be inserted if these and all others were meant to be included in the proceeding general power" provide incontestable evidence that the only lawful powers of the Federal Government are those enumerated in the Constitution of the United States. 8. No Federal Agent has, nor has ever had, the lawful authority to dissolve the Constitutional Compact nor distort its purposes and intent as provided in its Preamble and clarified in the Federalist Papers. *************end of premises************* PROBLEM - Though the CNC's view is that "our nation has been, and continues to be very deliberately, systematically, pervasively and unconstitutionally mismanaged on behalf of the world's financial/industrial cartel," we are in full agreement with the allegation made by the Republican governors in 1994 when they said:"Federal action has exceeded the clear bounds of its jurisdiction under the Constitution and thus violated rights guaranteed to the people." The CNC is willing to accept the governors allegation as the definition of our nation's problem if it is more palatable to others. GOAL - Following their allegation, the governors pledged "to restore to the States and the people the prerogatives and freedoms guaranteed them under the Constitution." If this pledge were to become reality, we believe it will satisfy the CNC's stated goal of "a government again operating within the limits prescribed by the Constitution." NEEDED ACTION - Individuals and organizations in general agreement with the cited premises, statement of our problem, and goal and who are willing to agree to disagree agreeably when necessary, and network with others in pursuit of the major objectives lying on the goals critical path, are encouraged to: 1. Send the CNC a simple communication saying "include me/my organization in the network". If possible, include an e-mail address and/or fax number through which you can be reached! 2. Mail and/or fax a copy of this communication to everyone you think might share our concerns for their review and consideration. 3. Rewrite the stated premises, problem, and goal if you think they can be significantly improved upon and send your suggested verbiage to the CNC. If and when mutually acceptable statements on these three items are agreed upon, we can try to jointly identify and define other items to be included in a plan. The CNC suggests the remaining questions to be answered and the sequence in which they should be addressed are: 1. What are the major objectives lying on the critical path to our goal? 2. Who will be responsible for the pursuit of these objectives? 3. What options are available for satisfying each objective? 4. What strategies and tactics will be employed under each option for each objective? 5. How will those helping to implement the plan be efficiently and effectively networked? 6. Who will be responsible for overseeing the plan's implementation? 7. What logistical considerations must be satisfied? 8. By what standard will we determine if individuals and organizations are friend or foe so we can insure our resources are being put to productive use? Though an answer to each of these questions is proposed in the book To Tame a Tyrant (ISBN 1-57921-034-1), they too should be critiqued and worthy comments included in the plan. I pray each recipient of this communication will give it serious consideration as time is of the essence. We can no longer afford the luxury of having our few precious resources diverted into chasing symptoms of our problem or in trying to study it out of existence! Let's move beyond being "Keyboard Cowboys" engaged in great debates over the crossing of t's and the dotting of I's. Let's cut the chase, get to the heart of our problem, objectively analyze the options for solving it, establish an organizational structure through which we can and will network with one another, and GO FOR IT! THE TIME FOR DILLYDALLYING IS OVER. We have a challenge to meet and with God's blessing, objective thinking, and responsible action, we can and will meet it! For those quick to criticize - and I know you're out there - please be constructive in your criticism! We relish it! But if you don't like anything about our plan, send us a copy of yours! I promise it will be given due consideration. If you can do neither and have no interest in helping develop or implement a plan, I repectfully request that you remove the CNC from your mailing lists as our limited resources demand we stay focused on the path that we feel God has lead us to follow. In God and Country, Walter L Myers Ex. Dir. CNC [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jul 98 15:14:59 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: REsponse To Dessicant Alert (fwd) On Jul 10, Tom Jones wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Reply to Desiccant Alert United Desiccants' MilSpec desiccant bags have been approved for use by the Naval Sea Systems Command (NSSC) for use in a variety of military and non-military applications. The bags conform to military specification MIL-D-3464E. This specification requires that desiccants that are to be used in military applications, such as storage of ammunition and weapons, pass certain tests for corrosion. This test involves exposing panels made of aluminum, brass, steel and magnesium to both the desiccant and the desiccant packaging (paper) at 25( C at 60% relative humidity to test for corrosion of the materials. These panels are then placed into an oven at 38( C for 72 hours. The panels are then removed and visually inspected for evidence of corrosion. If any corrosion occurs during this test, the desiccant will not be approved by the NSSC and Qualified Products Lists (QPL) approval will not be granted. The tests conducted on the desiccant must be supervised and witnessed by an authorized representative of the NSSC and the final test result must be reviewed and approved by the NSSC. United Desiccants is a QPL approved manufacturer and supplier of MIL-D-3464E Type 1 and Type 2 desiccant to the U.S. Military. If the desiccant bag is manufactured by United Desiccants and has "MIL-D-3464E" printed on the bag, then the desiccant has been tested and approved by the NSSC. Since desiccants and desiccant bags may be sold or represented as meeting the specifications for MIL-D-3464E by companies NOT classified as approved QPL-3464 manufactures, it is important for a purchaser to find out if the manufacturer of the desiccant is, in fact, listed on the Qualified Products List. Otherwise, the quality and performance of the MIL-D-3464E desiccant may be in question. The X-Crepe or Kraft paper that is used to package desiccant under MIL-D-3464E is a cellulose based, breathable film that is widely used to package desiccants. The paper contains a minute amount of sulfur (<0.21% by weight). The sulfur is a natural component of the Kraft paper and will not create any corrosion or contamination problems during normal use. For protection of components such as integrated circuits, computer boards and wafers, United Desiccants recommends the use of Tyvek film versus X-Crepe for desiccant packaging. This is due to two issues: 1. Electronic packaging and protection requires the use of dustless, clean room type materials. Tyvek is composed on spun-bonded high-density polypropylene, and is a clean room material. The X-Crepe paper will give off cellulose fibers when subjected to excessive vibration or friction that might take place during handling. 2. Integrated circuits are composed of very thin layers of copper and other conductive metals. Solvents or other volatile compounds may out gas from packaging materials and then may interact with the sulfur in the X-Crepe film if the X-Crepe film is in direct contact with the chip or integrated circuit. For all other applications, X-Crepe is considered a safe and effective desiccant packaging component. Thomas Jones Customer Service Manager United Desiccants [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #160 *************************