From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #177 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Sunday, August 23 1998 Volume 02 : Number 177 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 07:17:28 -0400 From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Fwd: ALERT! DRUDGE SAYS CLINTON ASKED NIXON TO RESIGN IN 1974 BECAUSE HE LIED >Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 01:45:01 -0400 >From: E Pluribus Unum >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) >To: E Pluribus Unum Email Distribution Network >Subject: ALERT! DRUDGE SAYS CLINTON ASKED NIXON TO RESIGN IN 1974 BECAUSE HE LIED > >DRUDGE REPORT >By Matt Drudge >Wed Aug 19 1998 21:27:35 ET > > >CLINTON: RESIGNATION! > >**Exclusive** >**Must Credit** > >It was another time. Another place. But the same man. > >"No question that an admission of making false statements to government >officials and interfering with the FBI is an impeachable offense." -- >Bill Clinton, ARKANSAS GAZETTE, August 8, 1974, page 7-A. > >That quote is just one of dozens the DRUDGE REPORT has now obtained -- >quotes that show Bill Clinton, in his own words, warning about the >dangers of leaving a man that has lied in the position of President of >the United States. > >Bill Clinton was running for a seat in the United States Congress in the >Summer of '74. In the early weeks of August, President Nixon was going >down in flames from events surrounding the Watergate scandal. At that >time, Nixon was refusing to respond to pressure from the Hill >demanding his resignation. > >Clinton was running for the seat held by Rep. John Paul Hammerschmidt >[R] -- a Nixon loyalist who was publicly supporting the president and >telling him to stay in office. > >"REPRESENTATIVE IS 'OUT OF STEP,' CLINTON CHARGES" was the headline in >the newspaper on August 8, 1974. > >In the wake of President Nixon's public admission that he had lied about >his role in Watergate, Clinton, then a law professor at the University >of Arkansas, said: > >"I think it is plain that the president should resign and spare the >country the agony of impeachment and removal proceedings." > >"I think the country could be spared a lot of agony... if he'd go on and >resign," Bill Clinton declared. > >The ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT, two days earlier -- August 6, 1974, page 10-A -- >quoted Bill Clinton again talking about the need for Nixon to leave >office: > >"Bill Clinton, Democratic candidate for the 3rd Congressional District, >said, "There is nothing left to say. There's no point putting this >country through an impeachment since [Nixon] isn't >making any pretense of innocence now... This country has suffered so >long." > >X X X X X >Reports are moved when circumstances warrant >(c)DRUDGE REPORT 1998 >Not for reproduction without permission of the author >-- >****************************************************************** > E Pluribus Unum The Central Ohio Patriot Group > P.O. Box 791 Eventline/Voicemail: (614) 823-8499 > Grove City, OH 43123 > >Meetings: Monday Evenings, 7:30pm, Ryan's Steakhouse > 3635 W. Dublin-Granville Rd. (just East of Sawmill Rd.) > >http://www.infinet.com/~eplurib eplurib@infinet.com >****************************************************************** > - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:07:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul M Watson Subject: CIA trained Afghan bombers - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:15:16 -0500 From: "george" Subject: CAS: While Neo-Nero fiddles- Anti US bombers The Financial Times THURSDAY AUGUST 20 1998=A0=A0 AFGHANISTAN: Rebels turn against the west By David Gardner, Middle East Editor When Saudi Arabia's National Guard communications centre in central Riyadh was bombed in November 1995, killing five of the US servicemen who ran it, the kingdom's first detectable response was to send Prince Turki bin Faisal, the Saudi intelligence chief, to Cairo. There he compared notes with Egypt's interior minister - Gen Hassan al-Alfi, sacked in disgrace after last November's Islamist massacre of tourists at Luxor - on a subject which had come to absorb a lot, but perhaps not enough, of their time: the "Arab Afghans". These are the Arab volunteers who fought alongside the Afghani Mujahideen in the 1980s war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and who, flush with Islamist zeal and the taste of victory against a superpower, then fanned out across the Middle East, the Balkans, and parts of south and central Asia and Africa. By 1992, battle-hardened Arab Afghans had returned home to lead Islamist guerrilla insurgencies in Algeria and Egypt; the four Saudis publicly beheaded in May 1996 for the Riyadh bombing were also allegedly trained in Afghanistan. When the US this week halved its embassy staff in Pakistan as a protective measure against further bomb attacks on American targets abroad, it was also acknowledging that neighbouring Afghanistan was and remains the incubator of the most uncompromising and anti-western Islamist fighters. Indeed, US investigators are working on the suspicion that the truck-bombings of Washington's embassies in Nairobi and Dar es-Salaam were ordered from Afghanistan, possibly by Osama bin Laden, the wealthy Saudi dissident who leads the Arab Afghans. He is believed to be still based in the Hindu Kush, under the protection of the Taliban militia which now controls most of Afghanistan. And he has declared war against America and its ally, Israel. In February, a new organisation sponsored by Mr bin Laden - the Islamic International Front for Fighting Jews and Crusaders, which includes leading Egyptian Islamist militants - announced it intended to attack US targets worldwide. The pan-Arab daily al-Hayat yesterday reported it had received a statement from this umbrella group pledging new "holy struggle operations" against the US. While the Arab Afghan saga has its origins in the cold war, it has become a post-cold war story of a deadly form of proliferation which the US, which oversaw the Afghani resistance to Soviet rule, has good reason to know something about. Probably tens of thousands of Arab volunteers were drafted into the jihad (holy war) against the Red Army, blessed and armed by the CIA, financed and nurtured by Saudi Arabia, with logistics and border support laid on by Pakistani intelligence. While this joint venture delivered a satisfyingly Vietnam-style humiliation to the crumbling Soviet empire, it also gave birth to a Frankenstein's monster: an itinerant army of holy warriors against the west and its Arab and Moslem allies. "The coming days will, God willing, see that America meets a black fate similar to what happened to the Soviet Union," the International Islamic Front's statement to al-Hayat said. The vague goals of the movement are to "liberate Moslem lands" by getting the US out of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf and Israel out of Jerusalem. For the Arab Afghans, and violent fundamentalists throughout the Moslem world, the defeat of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan was the harbinger of a new Islamic era, proof that religious zeal allied to advanced weapons technology can carry all before it. Thousands of Egyptians, Algerians and Yemenis, and hundreds of Sudanese, Palestinians and Jordanians, carried this message back to their countries. But the largest contingent of volunteers in the Afghan war was supplied by Saudi Arabia. At the time of the May 1996 executions in Riyadh, the Saudi newsweekly al-Majalla reassured readers that all but a few "infidels" among the kingdom's 20,000 Mujahideen had resumed normal lives. Nevertheless, the prime suspect in the still unsolved truck-bombing of the US base at al-Khobar in eastern Saudi Arabia the following month, which killed 19 Americans, is Mr bin Laden. According to a senior adviser to the Saudi court in the 1980s, the kingdom's brigade was organised by Saudi intelligence, in co-ordination with Mr bin Laden, at the time considered the pious heir to a construction fortune, but since then stripped of his Saudi citizenship. "There are 4,000 ex-Mujahideen in [the holy city of] Medina alone," says the former adviser, "and if they (Saudi intelligence) think they have them under control they are wrong." Egypt and Algeria were more alert to the danger once it emerged that the Gama'a al-Islamiya in the former and the Armed Islamic Group (GIA) in the latter were led by Arab Afghans. Responding to this alarm, and pressed by the US, Pakistan has periodically cracked down and deported former volunteers. One result was the suicide bombing of the Egyptian embassy in Islamabad in November 1995, and attacks on US citizens there since. Another was proliferation of the problem. Arab Afghan contingents, again often linked with Mr bin Laden, fought in Bosnia, in Chechnya and in Tajikistan. As well as maintaining bases in Afghanistan, they scattered to the Yemen, Somalia and Sudan - the latter two bordering east Africa, scene of the embassy bombings. The former Soviet republics of Central Asia are trying to develop a joint response to "Wahhabism" - the austere strain of Islam originating in Saudi Arabia which they associate with Arab Afghan-inspired militancy in their region. Despite all this, the US has been slow to respond. Washington's anti-terrorist policy has focused on state sponsors of terrorism, listing seven "rogue" states, among them Iran, Iraq, Libya, Sudan and Syria. The phenomenon it appears to be facing now, however, is more fragmented, offering no clear target for reprisals - but with an operational capability equivalent to state sponsorship, which the US itself is partly responsible for having provided through its Afghanistan venture. FBI investigators yesterday confirmed they had raided a hotel in Nairobi, where local reports say the embassy bomb was assembled. The raid follows Monday's extradition from Pakistan of Mohammed Sadiq Odeh, described in Islamabad newspapers as part of Mr bin Laden's Arab Afghan network, a Palestinian engineer expert in the US-supplied Stinger missiles which turned the tide of the Afghanistan war. US officials are still resolutely refusing to jump to any conclusions over the African embassy bombings, but must surely be rueing that episode of a now bygone era when their own cold warrior zeal led them to back probably the first army of Islamic holy warriors since the Middle Ages. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D This mailing list is for discussion of Clinton Administration Scandals. If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com. In the message body put: unsubscribe cas - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:51:51 -0700 From: "Chuck Norgaard" Subject: Fw: DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE 8/19/98 - ---------- > From: preacher > To: chuckrn@aone.com > Subject: DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE 8/19/98 > Date: Wednesday, August 19, 1998 11:20 PM > > >X-From_: drudge@drudgereport.com Wed Aug 19 22:55:22 1998 > >From: drudge@drudgereport.com > >Date: Thu, 20 Aug 98 01:40:37 EST > >To: drudge@drudgereport.com > >Subject: DRUDGE-REPORT-EXCLUSIVE 8/19/98 > > > >XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX WED AUGUST 19, 1998 21:53:09 ET XXXXX > > > >CLINTON: RESIGNATION! > > > >**Exclusive** > >**Must Credit** > > > >It was another time. Another place. But the same man. > > > >"No question that an admission of making false statements to government > >officials and interfering with the FBI is an impeachable offense." -- Bill > >Clinton, ARKANSAS GAZETTE, August 8, 1974, page 7-A. > > > >That quote is just one of dozens the DRUDGE REPORT has now obtained -- > >quotes that show Bill Clinton, in his own words, warning about the dangers > >of leaving a man that has lied in the position of President of the United > >States. > > > >Bill Clinton was running for a seat in the United States Congress in the > >Summer of '74. In the early weeks of August, President Nixon was going > >down in flames from events surrounding the Watergate scandal. At that > >time, Nixon was refusing to respond to pressure from the Hill demanding his > >resignation. > > > >Clinton was running for the seat held by Rep. John Paul Hammerschmidt [R] -- > >a Nixon loyalist who was publicly supporting the president and telling him > >to stay in office. > > > >"REPRESENTATIVE IS 'OUT OF STEP,' CLINTON CHARGES" was the headline in the > >newspaper on August 8, 1974. > > > >In the wake of President Nixon's public admission that he had lied about his > >role in Watergate, Clinton, then a law professor at the University of > >Arkansas, said: > > > >"I think it is plain that the president should resign and spare the country > >the agony of impeachment and removal proceedings." > > > >"I think the country could be spared a lot of agony... if he'd go on and > >resign," Bill Clinton declared. > > > >The ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT, two days earlier -- August 6, 1974, page 10-A -- > >quoted Bill Clinton again talking about the need for Nixon to leave office: > > > >"Bill Clinton, Democratic candidate for the 3rd Congressional District, > >said, "There is nothing left to say. There's no point putting this country > >through an impeachment since [Nixon] isn't making any pretense of innocence > >now... This country has suffered so long." > > > >---------------------------------------------------- > >Filed by Matt Drudge > >For breaks and steaks: http://www.drudgereport.com > >Reports are moved when circumstances warrant > >(c)DRUDGE REPORT 1998 > >Not for reproduction without permission of the author > > > > > > > > > > > > - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 10:54:02 -0700 From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Re: * East Coast Alert * Bill Vance wrote: > > *** ALERT! *** > > The following might be a hoax, but it falls into the best people know just > in case category. That Military satellite launch that blew up the other day > may have had an RTG power source aboard. If so, the East Coast just got > dusted with minute particles of Plutonium. Breath it and get Lung Cancer. > Heard on the Art Bell Radio show this PM. If you're on the East Coast, and > have a Geiger Counter, it might pay to dust it off. > The only people who even might be at risk are those immediately downwind of the original explosion. If the wind was blowing offshore (West to east), only the fish and plankton will get any exposure. If you observed the TV pictures of the explosion, all the smoke trails from burning debris suggested no substantial wind activity to disburse the dust, plutonium or otherwise. To suggest that the entire east coast could be affected is to imagine that plutonium is "magic stuff" exempt from the laws of physics, including gravity. Not so. Regards, Skip (former nuke) P.S. We breathe radioactive dust every day, a tiny bit left over from old nuclear tests, but far more of it from natural rock and rock products (sand, dust, etc.) To say "Breath it and get lung cancer" is also a gross exaggeration in the context of this scenario. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:02:58 -0700 From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Clinton orders anti-terrorist strikes Wag the Dog. Nuff said. - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 98 13:57:17 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: Riding A "Dead Horse" - A Governmental Primer (fwd) On Aug 20, Stephen B Clayton wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Although this came across from my Gems-And-Facets List, I thought the current administration might want to see this - it's pretty much "business as usual"..... Steve Clayton - Tampa Bay Area, Florida, USA Megilah Bereshith 12:2-3 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Dakota Sioux tribal wisdom says that when you discover you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount. However, in business [or government - sbc], we often try other strategies with dead horses, including the following: > 1. Buying a stronger whip. > 2. Changing riders. > 3. Saying things like "This is the way we always have ridden this horse." > 4. Appointing a committee to study the horse. > 5. Arranging to visit other sites to see how they ride dead horses. > 6. Increasing the standards to ride dead horses. > 7. Appointing a tiger team to revive the dead horse. > 8. Creating a training session to increase our riding ability. > 9. Comparing the state of dead horses in today's environment. > 10. Change the requirements declaring that "This horse is not dead." > 11. Hire contractors to ride the dead horse. > 12. Harnessing several dead horses together for increased speed. > 13. Declaring that "No horse is too dead to beat" > 14. Providing additional funding to increase the horse's performance. > 15. Do a CA study to see if contractors can ride it cheaper. > 16. Purchase a product to make dead horses run faster. > 17. Declare the horse is "better, faster and cheaper" dead. > 18. Form a quality circle to find uses for dead horses. > 19. Revisit the performance requirements for horses. > 20. Say this horse was procured with cost as an independent variable. > 21. Promote the dead horse to a supervisory position. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 17:45:21 -0700 From: Liberty or Death Subject: >>> Wag That Afghanistan Dog!!! A link you all ought to check out (especially those who have seen "Wag the Dog" - and those who haven't need to, soon). Written by a friend with a very inside track... http://www.nidlink.com/~akmoob/afghanistan.html - - Monte - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Let the sea roar and its fulness, The world and those who dwell in it. Let the rivers clap their hands; Let the mountains sing together for joy before the Lord. For He is coming to judge the earth; He will judge the world with righteousness, And the peoples with equity. - Psalm 98 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:29:19 -0400 From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Fwd: CIA - Alert >From: Foolery@aol.com >Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:24:07 EDT >To: foolery@bright.net >Subject: Fwd: CIA - Alert >X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 > > >From: MarkleyGun@aol.com >Return-path: >To: MarkleyGun@aol.com >Subject: CIA - Alert >Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:45:53 EDT >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >Greetings, > >I have been requested to forward this to you, I feel it something we as >Veterans can all get behind. And as non-Veterans, you can help too. > >A little while ago, Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson came out with a new CD >entitled "Storytellers". It's an excellant piece of work, especially Cash's >piece on it entitled "Drive On". Being a Veteran it hit me pretty good. >Where is this going you ask?? > >As you know, Willie is involved in Farm Aid, big time. This man earned my >respect when he told the IRS to take a hike, even though the IRS did get even >with him for it. Anyway, to the point.... > >A friend of mine that lives in Nashville has asked that I forward this Sit - >Rep to you and you take it from there. As a Veteran and an American, I feel >this is something we can all get behind and show this country we stand >together. OK Bobby Ross, here we go... >========================= >Hey LRRPs! > > The American Farmer is losing ground every day! > > As I hung up the phone last night after talking with Willie Nelson, >a huge surge of pride overtook me! Willie Nelson wants me to promote his >Farm Aid 13 to the American Veterans. In return, Willie is willing to go >to bat for us Veterans. > > We Veterans fought for our country on foreign soil. And all of us >Veterans still have enough fight left to battle for American Veteran >Farmers on our soil. > > We will not lose anymore ground! > > Willie told me that he feels strongly for American Farmers, of >course, and I told him many are Veterans. I made a deal with him. I said >I'd go to bat for him and the Farm Aid 13 and the American Farmer if he >would go to bat for the American Veteran Farmer. This is a good deal. >American Veterans need to help Willie Nelson save the ground we fought for! > > This is, of course, all part of the RAID! Many LRRPs are joining >the VHVC as "Founding Members". And many LRRPs are sending in the code >word: ADVANCE. The SPLASH is going great with the addition of many LRRPs >sending in the code word: RADIO. This is the 5th SPLASH Mission and we >are going to have one exciting Veterans Day this coming November 11th. > > OK, this is the deal with Willie Nelson's Farm Aid 13: > > We need to spread the word to our whole Veteran Community on this >one. Willie Nelson is one of the most unselfish Americans to live in the >20th Century. His caring for the American Farmer is a wonderful human gift >to all of us. We need to help him! This could be one great party, as >well. The concert date is October 3rd, 1998. The place for the concert is >not known at this time. There is a free telephone number where you can get >info. 1-800-FARM AID > > For more information on what we as American Veterans can do for >this wonderful event, send in the code word: FARM AID. I will add you to >the "loop" on this when I receive your code word. Plus, spread the word. >Send this sit-rep to everybody in your network. Let's back Willie Nelson >on this! If we do good, then Willie will have the opportunity to see just >how COOL American Veterans really are. And, perhaps, we can get a color >guard on the stage at Farm Aid 13! > >>PEACE, >>Bobby Ross >>bobbyros@nashville.net >>http://www.nashville.net/~bobbyros/lrrp.html > >>Echo Summit Music >>VETERANS HELPING VETERANS CONCERTS (llc) >>11 Music Square East >>Suite #501 >>Nashville, TN 37203 > >>Disabled American Veteran Web Design Company at: >>>http://www.telalink.net/~bobbyros/esw/webjsc2.htm > >>615 244-8725 > >FAX 615 353-8218 > >>SPLASH '98! > >>SALUTE TO AMERICAN VETERANS, THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS ON MEMORIAL DAY >>AND VETERANS DAY > > SPLASH 98! > AMERICAN VETERANS > OUR FREEDOM..OUR HISTORY..OUR FUTURE > AMERICA'S WAY OF LIFE! >========================= > >There it is, what do you think?? You can let me know, or go straight to >Bobby, he loves to talk to folks so don't be shy. Hope all is going well in >your camp...take care and watch your six. > >Back to Back, >Scott > - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Aug 98 11:47:59 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Fwd: CIA - Alert While all this sorta sounds good, how about some details? I and most other Vets and other folks have no idea whatsoever what all these acronyms and code words are for, or what Farm Aid 13 is for or about. How reading through your post, making a list off them, and offering some sort of explaination.........? On Aug 22, Tom Cloyes wrote: >>From: Foolery@aol.com >>Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:24:07 EDT >>To: foolery@bright.net >>Subject: Fwd: CIA - Alert >>X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 >> >> >>From: MarkleyGun@aol.com >>Return-path: >>To: MarkleyGun@aol.com >>Subject: CIA - Alert >>Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:45:53 EDT >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >> >>Greetings, >> >>I have been requested to forward this to you, I feel it something we as >>Veterans can all get behind. And as non-Veterans, you can help too. >> >>A little while ago, Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson came out with a new CD >>entitled "Storytellers". It's an excellant piece of work, especially Cash's >>piece on it entitled "Drive On". Being a Veteran it hit me pretty good. >>Where is this going you ask?? >> >>As you know, Willie is involved in Farm Aid, big time. This man earned my >>respect when he told the IRS to take a hike, even though the IRS did get even >>with him for it. Anyway, to the point.... >> >>A friend of mine that lives in Nashville has asked that I forward this Sit - >>Rep to you and you take it from there. As a Veteran and an American, I feel >>this is something we can all get behind and show this country we stand >>together. OK Bobby Ross, here we go... >>========================= >>Hey LRRPs! >> >> The American Farmer is losing ground every day! >> >> As I hung up the phone last night after talking with Willie Nelson, >>a huge surge of pride overtook me! Willie Nelson wants me to promote his >>Farm Aid 13 to the American Veterans. In return, Willie is willing to go >>to bat for us Veterans. >> >> We Veterans fought for our country on foreign soil. And all of us >>Veterans still have enough fight left to battle for American Veteran >>Farmers on our soil. >> >> We will not lose anymore ground! >> >> Willie told me that he feels strongly for American Farmers, of >>course, and I told him many are Veterans. I made a deal with him. I said >>I'd go to bat for him and the Farm Aid 13 and the American Farmer if he >>would go to bat for the American Veteran Farmer. This is a good deal. >>American Veterans need to help Willie Nelson save the ground we fought for! >> >> This is, of course, all part of the RAID! Many LRRPs are joining >>the VHVC as "Founding Members". And many LRRPs are sending in the code >>word: ADVANCE. The SPLASH is going great with the addition of many LRRPs >>sending in the code word: RADIO. This is the 5th SPLASH Mission and we >>are going to have one exciting Veterans Day this coming November 11th. >> >> OK, this is the deal with Willie Nelson's Farm Aid 13: >> >> We need to spread the word to our whole Veteran Community on this >>one. Willie Nelson is one of the most unselfish Americans to live in the >>20th Century. His caring for the American Farmer is a wonderful human gift >>to all of us. We need to help him! This could be one great party, as >>well. The concert date is October 3rd, 1998. The place for the concert is >>not known at this time. There is a free telephone number where you can get >>info. 1-800-FARM AID >> >> For more information on what we as American Veterans can do for >>this wonderful event, send in the code word: FARM AID. I will add you to >>the "loop" on this when I receive your code word. Plus, spread the word. >>Send this sit-rep to everybody in your network. Let's back Willie Nelson >>on this! If we do good, then Willie will have the opportunity to see just >>how COOL American Veterans really are. And, perhaps, we can get a color >>guard on the stage at Farm Aid 13! >> >>>PEACE, >>>Bobby Ross >>>bobbyros@nashville.net >>>http://www.nashville.net/~bobbyros/lrrp.html >> >>>Echo Summit Music >>>VETERANS HELPING VETERANS CONCERTS (llc) >>>11 Music Square East >>>Suite #501 >>>Nashville, TN 37203 >> >>>Disabled American Veteran Web Design Company at: >>>>http://www.telalink.net/~bobbyros/esw/webjsc2.htm >> >>>615 244-8725 >> >>FAX 615 353-8218 >> >>>SPLASH '98! >> >>>SALUTE TO AMERICAN VETERANS, THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS ON MEMORIAL DAY >>>AND VETERANS DAY >> >> SPLASH 98! >> AMERICAN VETERANS >> OUR FREEDOM..OUR HISTORY..OUR FUTURE >> AMERICA'S WAY OF LIFE! >>========================= >> >>There it is, what do you think?? You can let me know, or go straight to >>Bobby, he loves to talk to folks so don't be shy. Hope all is going well in >>your camp...take care and watch your six. >> >>Back to Back, >>Scott - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 09:18:49 -0400 From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Re: Fwd: CIA - Alert This email was forwarded to me for information purposes. If you would like more information about this event, or would like to participate in some way, either call 1-800-FARM-AID, or email bobbyros@nashville.net. I have no other information concerning this other than the initial email, so I'm as much in the dark about these code words as you are. Tom At 11:47 AM 8/22/98 -0800, you wrote: >While all this sorta sounds good, how about some details? I and most other >Vets and other folks have no idea whatsoever what all these acronyms and >code words are for, or what Farm Aid 13 is for or about. How reading >through your post, making a list off them, and offering some sort of >explaination.........? > >On Aug 22, Tom Cloyes wrote: > >>>From: Foolery@aol.com >>>Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:24:07 EDT >>>To: foolery@bright.net >>>Subject: Fwd: CIA - Alert >>>X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 >>> >>> >>>From: MarkleyGun@aol.com >>>Return-path: >>>To: MarkleyGun@aol.com >>>Subject: CIA - Alert >>>Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 10:45:53 EDT >>>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>>Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>>Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >>> >>>Greetings, >>> >>>I have been requested to forward this to you, I feel it something we as >>>Veterans can all get behind. And as non-Veterans, you can help too. >>> >>>A little while ago, Johnny Cash and Willie Nelson came out with a new CD >>>entitled "Storytellers". It's an excellant piece of work, especially Cash's >>>piece on it entitled "Drive On". Being a Veteran it hit me pretty good. >>>Where is this going you ask?? >>> >>>As you know, Willie is involved in Farm Aid, big time. This man earned my >>>respect when he told the IRS to take a hike, even though the IRS did get even >>>with him for it. Anyway, to the point.... >>> >>>A friend of mine that lives in Nashville has asked that I forward this Sit - >>>Rep to you and you take it from there. As a Veteran and an American, I feel >>>this is something we can all get behind and show this country we stand >>>together. OK Bobby Ross, here we go... >>>========================= >>>Hey LRRPs! >>> >>> The American Farmer is losing ground every day! >>> >>> As I hung up the phone last night after talking with Willie Nelson, >>>a huge surge of pride overtook me! Willie Nelson wants me to promote his >>>Farm Aid 13 to the American Veterans. In return, Willie is willing to go >>>to bat for us Veterans. >>> >>> We Veterans fought for our country on foreign soil. And all of us >>>Veterans still have enough fight left to battle for American Veteran >>>Farmers on our soil. >>> >>> We will not lose anymore ground! >>> >>> Willie told me that he feels strongly for American Farmers, of >>>course, and I told him many are Veterans. I made a deal with him. I said >>>I'd go to bat for him and the Farm Aid 13 and the American Farmer if he >>>would go to bat for the American Veteran Farmer. This is a good deal. >>>American Veterans need to help Willie Nelson save the ground we fought for! >>> >>> This is, of course, all part of the RAID! Many LRRPs are joining >>>the VHVC as "Founding Members". And many LRRPs are sending in the code >>>word: ADVANCE. The SPLASH is going great with the addition of many LRRPs >>>sending in the code word: RADIO. This is the 5th SPLASH Mission and we >>>are going to have one exciting Veterans Day this coming November 11th. >>> >>> OK, this is the deal with Willie Nelson's Farm Aid 13: >>> >>> We need to spread the word to our whole Veteran Community on this >>>one. Willie Nelson is one of the most unselfish Americans to live in the >>>20th Century. His caring for the American Farmer is a wonderful human gift >>>to all of us. We need to help him! This could be one great party, as >>>well. The concert date is October 3rd, 1998. The place for the concert is >>>not known at this time. There is a free telephone number where you can get >>>info. 1-800-FARM AID >>> >>> For more information on what we as American Veterans can do for >>>this wonderful event, send in the code word: FARM AID. I will add you to >>>the "loop" on this when I receive your code word. Plus, spread the word. >>>Send this sit-rep to everybody in your network. Let's back Willie Nelson >>>on this! If we do good, then Willie will have the opportunity to see just >>>how COOL American Veterans really are. And, perhaps, we can get a color >>>guard on the stage at Farm Aid 13! >>> >>>>PEACE, >>>>Bobby Ross >>>>bobbyros@nashville.net >>>>http://www.nashville.net/~bobbyros/lrrp.html >>> >>>>Echo Summit Music >>>>VETERANS HELPING VETERANS CONCERTS (llc) >>>>11 Music Square East >>>>Suite #501 >>>>Nashville, TN 37203 >>> >>>>Disabled American Veteran Web Design Company at: >>>>>http://www.telalink.net/~bobbyros/esw/webjsc2.htm >>> >>>>615 244-8725 >>> >>>FAX 615 353-8218 >>> >>>>SPLASH '98! >>> >>>>SALUTE TO AMERICAN VETERANS, THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS ON MEMORIAL DAY >>>>AND VETERANS DAY >>> >>> SPLASH 98! >>> AMERICAN VETERANS >>> OUR FREEDOM..OUR HISTORY..OUR FUTURE >>> AMERICA'S WAY OF LIFE! >>>========================= >>> >>>There it is, what do you think?? You can let me know, or go straight to >>>Bobby, he loves to talk to folks so don't be shy. Hope all is going well in >>>your camp...take care and watch your six. >>> >>>Back to Back, >>>Scott > >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- >An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no >weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his >hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a >on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ >----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:58:48 -0700 From: "Chuck Norgaard" Subject: Fw: Survival is Not a Spectator Sport learn about the NWO, regionalisim, Newstates Constitution, etc. - ---------- > From: Committee to Restore the Constitution > To: Recipient List Suppressed:; > Subject: Survival is Not a Spectator Sport > Date: Friday, August 21, 1998 9:33 AM > > SURVIVAL IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT > > Cyberspace is surfeited with 'messages of alarm' anguishing over the latest > outrage foisted on Americans by the men and the system engaged in a > conspiracy to overthrow the Constitution and erect a United Nations 'new > world order' on ruins of the Republic. > > The more daring instruct their readers to write a letter of protest to > their Congressman, a person more likely than not to be an agent of the > mattoid elite who have seized control of policy-making and conflict > management in the United States Government. > > Never do these authors of 'public education' postings on the Internet offer > a solution to the problems they 'expose'. > > Result is a neutralized computer community convinced that resistance to > tyranny is futile. (Socialist moles on the Internet encourage this > defeatist attitude) > > It must be clear, however, that a population under siege and perpetually on > defense, is doomed to ultimate subjugation. Somewhere, somehow American > victims of unending attack must counterattack. > > Final transfer of the United States and her people into a socialist 'one > world government' managed by the International banking cartel is happening > in your lifetime. (See European Union and EU monetary system) > > Impending national disaster demands intelligent acceptance of facts behind > the crisis. And, it requires courageous marshalling of men, women and > resources to take whatever action is necessary to expose and defeat the > sick-brained men who have sentenced our people to a socialist animal farm. > > NEEDED IS A PLAN OF OPERATIONS > > On 5 August 1998 Committee to Restore the Constitution posted e-mail alert > to 1,500 individuals and national media outlets proposing a solution to the > seditious conspiracy of Federal Regional Government. (Regional Government > seeks to seize control of all property in the United States, both public > and private, to be administered by a central authority in Washington, i.e.: > communized as in Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) > > Committee Plan of Operations, headed "The Republic: Decline and Future > Promise" with sub-head "THE SILENT REVOLUTION OF FEDERAL REGIONALISM - A > SOLUTION" offers lawful rejection of the communized America planned for > you and your family. > > Documenting the rise and progress of regional governance, the Committee > reveals how you can harness powers of County and State governments to > restore freedoms of person and property guaranteed to you by the > Constitution. > > In addition to procedural instruction, text includes "County Resolution > Rejecting Regional Government" and "Bill to Provide for Enforcement of the > Constitution of the United States With Regard to Federal Regionalism". Both > County Resolution and State Bill prepared by Attorney T. David Horton, > Counsel, Committee to Restore the Constitution. ("Bill" provides criminal > sanctions for persons found guilty of violating State law) > > Successful in Indiana, the citizen-initiated Plan of Operations can reverse > the mindless march to the new feudalism and make a place for you and your > descendants in tomorrow's America. > > SURVIVAL IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT > > Needed are men and women who will examine the Committee 'Plan of > Operations' and form a citizen cadre to press for adoption of "County > Resolution Rejecting Regional Government" by their County Commission. > > Participate in the campaign to enforce basic principles originally embodied > in the Constitution of the United States. Your future depends on it. > > Begin your mission by sending your name and address. Ask for 'Plan of > Operations' to oust 'regionalism' from your community. Enclose $1.00 for > postage. > > Packet you will receive includes 6-page 'operations manual' with list of > documents indicting members of Congress and the President as > co-conspirators in plan to overthrow the Constitution and 'communize' > America; step-by-step instruction on launching mission rejecting regional > governance in your community; Bill to 'criminalize' regional operations in > your State. Additional evidence for the prosecution detailed in three > Committee intelligence reports detailing rise and progress of Regional > Governance and destruction of freedoms of person and property guaranteed to > the people by the Constitution. > > Transform 'spectatorship' to 'participation' in the mission to halt the > 'communizing of America' before the window of opportunity slams shut. > > Archibald E. Roberts, LtCol, AUS, ret, Director > COMMITTEE TO RESTORE THE CONSTITUTION, Inc. > Post Office Box 986 Fort Collins, Colorado USA 80522 > Website: http://webaccess.net/~comminc > Subject: "Federal Regional Government - A Solution" > - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #177 *************************