From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #221 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Thursday, March 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 221 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Mar 99 14:11:56 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fw: EIA Communique - 3/8 (fwd) On Mar 8, Kevin McGehee wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] - -----Original Message----- From: EducIntel@aol.com To: EducIntel@aol.com Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 1:38 PM Subject: EIA Communique - 3/8 The Education Intelligence Agency COMMUNIQU=C9 =97 March 8, 1999 + The biggest education news this week was the release of state reading scores on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP). The sco= res have already inspired a lot of punditry, but EIA prefers to make a thorou= gh study before editorializing. Nevertheless, the results are encouraging in= many parts of the country, including states both at the top of the scale (Connecticut) and near the bottom (Louisiana). Others, particularly Calif= ornia and Hawaii, have very little to cheer about. The latest NAEP results, plus the math scores from 1996 and the most rece= nt SAT scores, will figure prominently in the next EIA report (to be release= d in a few weeks). + The NAEP reading scores have not, so far, led to any questioning of th= e efficacy of class-size reduction. The jury is still out on California's t= hree- year, $4 billion foray into the reform (20-to-1 in grades K-3), and Nevad= a's nine-year-old class-size reduction program (16-to-1 in grades 1 and 2) ha= s not led to significant improvement in scores. Maryland is now pushing for statewide class-size reduction. What's fascinating is how the campaign fo= r class-size reduction has changed in three years and 3,000 miles. The holy icon of class-size reduction is Tennessee's Project STAR, a four= - - year study that concluded reducing class size to 13-17 students in early grades improved learning substantially. In California, proponents said reduction to 20 students wouldn't be quite as good as 17, but would impro= ve the situation. Now read this excerpt from last Friday's Legislative Bulle= tin of the Maryland State Teachers Association, also citing the results of Pr= oject STAR: "Why reinvent the wheel? If we know that 20 is too many, that there is literally NO improvement at that number, but that a maximum of 17 can pro= duce wonderful results, why bother at all with 20? Let's get down to brass tac= ks right away. Let's not waste our time and money on something we already kn= ow will not provide the results we so desperately want, and our students so desperately need, for success." While the academic benefits of class-size reduction are still in dispute, there is one result that cannot be denied: the California Teachers Associ= ation has exactly 37,584 more members than it had three years ago. + Having spent the last six years fighting off hostile ballot initiative= s, CTA will place a measure of its own on the 2000 ballot that would reduce = to a simple majority the threshold for approval of local school bonds. State l= aw currently requires a two-thirds majority. + NEA will be pushing for over $20 billion in federal school constructio= n funds this year and is gathering ammunition for its campaign. The union's Government Relations department is asking NEA activists for horror storie= s about school facilities to use with Congress. Senators and U.S. Representatives can expect the usual assortment of leaky roofs, broken wi= ndows and toxic mold. + NEA practices term-limits, which means a fairly regular turnover of to= p officials. But where the candidates come from makes the election process appear less like Congress and more like the Hapsburgs. NEA President Bob Chase ran for that position while serving as NEA Vice President. He replaced Keith Geiger, who was also NEA Vice President befo= re his accession. Chase's opponent was Marilyn Monahan, then the sitting NEA Secretary-Treasurer. This year Chase will run unopposed. On Saturday, delegates to the Illinois Education Association's Representative Assembly elected a president to replace term-limited Bob Haisman. IEA Secretary- Treasurer Anne Davis defeated IEA Vice President Jean Tello for the job. = NEA Rhode Island President Harvey Press is facing a stiff re-election challen= ge... from his own Vice President Larry Purtill. EIA research found that of the 43 NEA state affiliate presidents whose previous positions could be determined, 26 (60.5%) were sitting vice presidents of the affiliate when they ran for and won the presidency. Ano= ther four were sitting secretary-treasurers. Five others were state representa= tives on the NEA Board of Directors. Only eight presidents won their jobs from outside state headquarters =97 usually as a member of the state board or = the president of a large local. + The February 22 EIA Communiqu=E9 reported the remarks of Ohio Educatio= n Association President Mike Billirakis, who, in introducing his own propos= al for merger discussions with the Ohio Federation of Teachers, said "States= such as Missouri, Arizona and Oklahoma are also moving toward merger." EIA has learned that the Oklahoma Education Association's Delegate Assembly will = vote next month on whether to formalize merger talks with the much smaller Okl= ahoma Federation of Teachers. This means that Oklahoma is no further along in "moving toward merger" than Ohio is. + More movement on school crime policy? The March 3 issue of Education W= eek contains "Author Says Fear of Youth Crime Outstrips the Facts," and today= 's Orange County Register has "Schools rethinking =91zero tolerance' drug an= d alcohol policies." But the rethinking doesn't extend to Pennsylvania, whe= re state authorities are discussing ways to check home-schooled children for child abuse. "[T]he system was set up to catch child abuse at school," sa= ys Cathleen Palm of the nonprofit Pennsylvania Council of Children's Service= s. "If now you have that intersection of kids and adults no longer present, = you have lost an opportunity to catch children's unmet needs." EIA's latest report, Rotten Apples: School Crime from a Different Angle, = is still available free by contacting EIA at any of the numbers listed below. Please provide your snail mail address. + Quote of the Week #1: "Money. It is all about money. The quality of education for all Maine students in inextricably tied to money. Money buy= s computers; money pays for Advanced Placement courses; money hires educato= rs for special needs children; money pays for guidance counselors; and money= can guarantee small class sizes. Money is the mother's milk of education. The= more money a school has, the more learning opportunities for its students." =97= from a Maine Education Association editorial. + Quote of the Week #2: "In North Carolina, a beginning teacher's base s= alary is $23,100 in fiscal year 1998-99. Of this figure, five percent is $1,155= ; four percent is $924; three percent is $693; two percent is $462; one per= cent is $231; half of one percent is $115.50." =97 from the lead paragraph in = a front page insert in the February 1999 News Bulletin of the North Carolina Association of Educators. # # # The Education Intelligence Agency conducts public education research, ana= lysis and investigations. Director: Mike Antonucci. Ph: 916-422-4373. Fax: 916-392-1482. E-Mail: EducIntel@aol.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 15:37:34 -0800 From: Skip Leuschner Subject: Re: Fw: Illinois bill to force home-schoolers into vaccination/database (fwd) Let's see now. Home-schooled kids without their shots are a public health menace, but it's unthinkable to limit the movements or activities of HIV carriers. Raises the question of which is more important - public health or political correctness. Skip. - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 99 14:11:19 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fw: Illinois bill to force home-schoolers into vaccination/database (fwd) On Mar 8, Kevin McGehee wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] The educrats in charge of government schools are not about to let home-schoolers get away without a chase. I thought the whole reason for childhood immunizations was so kids wouldn't start schoolhouse epidemics. Now the prospect of a child coming down with measles at home where the educrats won't know about it, is judged worth another government invasion of the home. Kevin McGehee Fairbanks/North Pole, AK mcgehee@mosquitonet.com http://www.mosquitonet.com/~mcgehee/ Whining is not a strategy. - -----Original Message----- From: Stephen McGehee To: Recipient list suppressed Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 5:30 PM Subject: Child "Registration" >From: "ScanThisNews" >To: "ScanThisNews Recipients List" >Subject: [FP] Illinois bill to force home-schoolers into vaccination/database >Date: Sun, 7 Mar 1999 19:30:43 -0600 > >====================================================================== >SCAN THIS NEWS >3/7/99 > >[Forwarded from Betty Peters, Alabama Eagle Forum] > >Decatur Herald & Review >March 4, 1999 >Home-school backers lose legislative battle >Decatur, Illinois > >By ANTHONY MAN > >H&R Springfield Bureau Chief > >SPRINGFIELD -- Dozens of home-schooled children and their parents got a >civics lesson Wednesday at the state Capitol. > >Despite packing a committee hearing room and flooding legislators with >telephone calls, they failed to stop a measure that would require parents >to report the names and immunization status of their home-schooled children >to the government. > >The sponsor, state Rep. Ricca C. Slone, D-Peoria Heights, said her >legislation is an obvious way to improve public health. She said she also >is concerned that parents could remove their children from schools and say >they are home schooling them, which would make it hard for authorities to >uncover cases of neglect or abuse. > >"There is a legitimate public health interest in seeing these kids >immunized that arguably overrides the privacy right," she said. >"Regrettably, under the cover of 'we are home schooling,' (some) are >probably neglecting their kids." > >Opponents vehemently disagree. > >Many of the parents who educate their children at home rather than at >public, parochial or private schools regard the proposal as a momentous >invasion of their constitutional rights. Others believe it is the first >step toward improper government interference in their lives. > >Barbara Cole, who grew up in Decatur and now lives in Mount Vernon, home >schools her five children, ages 4, 5, 7, 11 and 12. > >Her concern about the prospect of the government collecting names and >immunization records is blunt: "Stalin believed in registration. Hitler >believed in registration." > >Martha Ruppert of Hillsboro agreed. "Registration has to come before >control. This is a first step. The underlying premise is that parents do >not know what is best for their children," she said. "I think I'm capable >of taking care of my children." > >Ruppert also is educating five children at home, ages 6, 8, 10, 13, and 16. >She said her two oldest children, who also were home schooled, are now in >college. > >Scott A. Woodruff, a lawyer with the Virginia-based Home School Legal >Defense Association, came to Illinois to work against Slone's proposal. > >"This bill is out of step with America," he said. "Home-based private >school education is a constitutional right. This bill erodes that right." > >Slone's legislation would require parents or guardians of children in >home-school programs to: > > >. Notify the county health department by Nov. 15 each year of the names, >addresses and birth dates of all children who are home schooled. >. Make sure each child receives the same kind of immunizations and >vision and hearing screenings required of public school students. >. Submit proof to the health department. >. Provide a written explanation detailing the grounds for religious >or constitutional objections if the child does not have the immunizations >or screenings. Alternatively, a physician could state that administering >the immunization would be harmful to the child. > > >The legislation drew a range of opponents, mostly conservative and >religious organizations. They included Eagle Forum, Christian Home >Educators Association, Concerned Women for America and Concerned Christian >Americans. > >Slone's supporters came from northwestern Illinois. John B. Lang, >superintendent of the Regional Office of Education in Carroll, Jo Daviess >and Stephenson counties, was one. He was joined by Donald L. Kussmaul, >superintendent of East Dubuque schools and Ken Hupp, superintendent in >Galena. > >The three said they have no quarrel with the dedication of people who >educate their children at home, but society has an interest in protecting >the health of those children. > >They echoed Slone's concern that removing students from school with no >record of where they are going could make it more difficult to uncover >abuse or neglect. Each said there was no particular problem in northwestern >Illinois that motivated them to travel to Springfield. > >"We care about all the kids in our buildings, all the kids in our >community, and all the kids that seem to be forgotten," Hupp said. > >The three educators were far outnumbered by supporters of home schooling. > >People filled the seats and stood along the walls of a House hearing room, >and after they lost, about 70 parents and children adjourned to a Capitol >Complex cafeteria to plot strategy. > >"Don't get upset yet," counseled Eagle Forum of Illinois President Fran >Eaton. "We're going to have to do some work with our legislators." > >One technique already proved ineffective: Home schoolers inundated the >offices of Human Services Committee members with telephone calls urging >defeat of the legislation. > >Instead the committee approved the measure 7-5. No area representatives >serve on the committee. > >The proposal now goes to the full House, where Slone would not predict its >fate. "One day at a time," she said. > >-------------------------- >Forwarded by >Jimmy Kilpatrick >EducationNews.org http://www.EducationNews.org >ReadbyGrade3.com http://www.readbygrade.com >k-12Science.org http://www.k-12science.org > >======================================================================= >Don't believe anything you read on the Net unless: >1) you can confirm it with another source, and/or >2) it is consistent with what you already know to be true. >======================================================================= >Reply to: >======================================================================= > To subscribe to the free Scan This News newsletter, send a message to > and type "subscribe scan" in the BODY. > Or, to be removed type "unsubscribe scan" in the message BODY. > For additional instructions see www.efga.org/about/maillist.html >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Scan This News" is Sponsored by S.C.A.N. > Host of the "FIGHT THE FINGERPRINT!" web page: > www.networkusa.org/fingerprint.shtml >======================================================================= [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 99 14:11:56 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fw: EIA Communique - 3/8 (fwd) On Mar 8, Kevin McGehee wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] - -----Original Message----- From: EducIntel@aol.com To: EducIntel@aol.com Date: Monday, March 08, 1999 1:38 PM Subject: EIA Communique - 3/8 The Education Intelligence Agency COMMUNIQU=C9 =97 March 8, 1999 + The biggest education news this week was the release of state reading scores on the National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP). The sco= res have already inspired a lot of punditry, but EIA prefers to make a thorou= gh study before editorializing. Nevertheless, the results are encouraging in= many parts of the country, including states both at the top of the scale (Connecticut) and near the bottom (Louisiana). Others, particularly Calif= ornia and Hawaii, have very little to cheer about. The latest NAEP results, plus the math scores from 1996 and the most rece= nt SAT scores, will figure prominently in the next EIA report (to be release= d in a few weeks). + The NAEP reading scores have not, so far, led to any questioning of th= e efficacy of class-size reduction. The jury is still out on California's t= hree- year, $4 billion foray into the reform (20-to-1 in grades K-3), and Nevad= a's nine-year-old class-size reduction program (16-to-1 in grades 1 and 2) ha= s not led to significant improvement in scores. Maryland is now pushing for statewide class-size reduction. What's fascinating is how the campaign fo= r class-size reduction has changed in three years and 3,000 miles. The holy icon of class-size reduction is Tennessee's Project STAR, a four= - - year study that concluded reducing class size to 13-17 students in early grades improved learning substantially. In California, proponents said reduction to 20 students wouldn't be quite as good as 17, but would impro= ve the situation. Now read this excerpt from last Friday's Legislative Bulle= tin of the Maryland State Teachers Association, also citing the results of Pr= oject STAR: "Why reinvent the wheel? If we know that 20 is too many, that there is literally NO improvement at that number, but that a maximum of 17 can pro= duce wonderful results, why bother at all with 20? Let's get down to brass tac= ks right away. Let's not waste our time and money on something we already kn= ow will not provide the results we so desperately want, and our students so desperately need, for success." While the academic benefits of class-size reduction are still in dispute, there is one result that cannot be denied: the California Teachers Associ= ation has exactly 37,584 more members than it had three years ago. + Having spent the last six years fighting off hostile ballot initiative= s, CTA will place a measure of its own on the 2000 ballot that would reduce = to a simple majority the threshold for approval of local school bonds. State l= aw currently requires a two-thirds majority. + NEA will be pushing for over $20 billion in federal school constructio= n funds this year and is gathering ammunition for its campaign. The union's Government Relations department is asking NEA activists for horror storie= s about school facilities to use with Congress. Senators and U.S. Representatives can expect the usual assortment of leaky roofs, broken wi= ndows and toxic mold. + NEA practices term-limits, which means a fairly regular turnover of to= p officials. But where the candidates come from makes the election process appear less like Congress and more like the Hapsburgs. NEA President Bob Chase ran for that position while serving as NEA Vice President. He replaced Keith Geiger, who was also NEA Vice President befo= re his accession. Chase's opponent was Marilyn Monahan, then the sitting NEA Secretary-Treasurer. This year Chase will run unopposed. On Saturday, delegates to the Illinois Education Association's Representative Assembly elected a president to replace term-limited Bob Haisman. IEA Secretary- Treasurer Anne Davis defeated IEA Vice President Jean Tello for the job. = NEA Rhode Island President Harvey Press is facing a stiff re-election challen= ge... from his own Vice President Larry Purtill. EIA research found that of the 43 NEA state affiliate presidents whose previous positions could be determined, 26 (60.5%) were sitting vice presidents of the affiliate when they ran for and won the presidency. Ano= ther four were sitting secretary-treasurers. Five others were state representa= tives on the NEA Board of Directors. Only eight presidents won their jobs from outside state headquarters =97 usually as a member of the state board or = the president of a large local. + The February 22 EIA Communiqu=E9 reported the remarks of Ohio Educatio= n Association President Mike Billirakis, who, in introducing his own propos= al for merger discussions with the Ohio Federation of Teachers, said "States= such as Missouri, Arizona and Oklahoma are also moving toward merger." EIA has learned that the Oklahoma Education Association's Delegate Assembly will = vote next month on whether to formalize merger talks with the much smaller Okl= ahoma Federation of Teachers. This means that Oklahoma is no further along in "moving toward merger" than Ohio is. + More movement on school crime policy? The March 3 issue of Education W= eek contains "Author Says Fear of Youth Crime Outstrips the Facts," and today= 's Orange County Register has "Schools rethinking =91zero tolerance' drug an= d alcohol policies." But the rethinking doesn't extend to Pennsylvania, whe= re state authorities are discussing ways to check home-schooled children for child abuse. "[T]he system was set up to catch child abuse at school," sa= ys Cathleen Palm of the nonprofit Pennsylvania Council of Children's Service= s. "If now you have that intersection of kids and adults no longer present, = you have lost an opportunity to catch children's unmet needs." EIA's latest report, Rotten Apples: School Crime from a Different Angle, = is still available free by contacting EIA at any of the numbers listed below. Please provide your snail mail address. + Quote of the Week #1: "Money. It is all about money. The quality of education for all Maine students in inextricably tied to money. Money buy= s computers; money pays for Advanced Placement courses; money hires educato= rs for special needs children; money pays for guidance counselors; and money= can guarantee small class sizes. Money is the mother's milk of education. The= more money a school has, the more learning opportunities for its students." =97= from a Maine Education Association editorial. + Quote of the Week #2: "In North Carolina, a beginning teacher's base s= alary is $23,100 in fiscal year 1998-99. Of this figure, five percent is $1,155= ; four percent is $924; three percent is $693; two percent is $462; one per= cent is $231; half of one percent is $115.50." =97 from the lead paragraph in = a front page insert in the February 1999 News Bulletin of the North Carolina Association of Educators. # # # The Education Intelligence Agency conducts public education research, ana= lysis and investigations. Director: Mike Antonucci. Ph: 916-422-4373. Fax: 916-392-1482. E-Mail: EducIntel@aol.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 20:50:46 -0800 From: "Lew Glendenning" Subject: RE: Sports Authority - Time for a Counterattack! (fwd) Sure, Republicans are the answer !! The same inept/corrupt/hopless/stupid party which can't convict a career criminal of anything, despite the crimes being right out in the open, published everywhere? The party which goes along with the lie that there is a budget surplus? (National deb will rise by $100B+ this year, despite the great surplus.) The party which tolerated Waco and Ruby Ridge, whose leaders applauded the FBI so often in the following investigation? The party which believes in small government so much that the rate of growth of government has slowed minutely? (Maybe, because we can't believe the accounting.) Don't have time for all of the other wonder attributes of Republicans. There isn't a dimes worth of difference, I have been saying for years. Read a Joseph Farah column the other day that said it better than I do. (Can find it off DrudgeReport page.) Way past time for freedom- and Constitution-lovers to get into the Libertarian Party. The Republican Party is far past saving. Especially after the impeachment debacle, there is no defending it. Not even one-issue voters can defend the Republicans on much of anything, and gun-control isn't a Republican strong suite. Lew > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-roc@lists.xmission.com > [mailto:owner-roc@lists.xmission.com]On Behalf Of Bill Vance > Sent: Friday, March 05, 1999 8:31 PM > To: roc%xmission.com@lists.xmission.com > Subject: Re: Sports Authority - Time for a Counterattack! (fwd) > > > On Mar 5, Jurist wrote: > > [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows > --------------------] > > MarjBud@aol.com wrote: > > > > We don't have a choice. We have to fight the matter out here and now. > Everything we lose, we probably will not be able to recover because the > "big lie" that produced the loss would be justified. "Lie" becomes > "truth." Why? ... Because those with enough experience to know the real > truth will be-politically-dead and buried... Want to repeal > Lautenberg? As Clinton says, "lets forget the past and move on." Only a > republican president and a republican congress will listen to us. > > Bryant Hopkins > > Agreed Bry, > > Sure -- the Left loves to perpetrate the Lie that change Leftwards is > irreversible -- but we know differently. Reagan called it "rollback."* > > May I suggest that we quit playing defense at our own 5-yard line. It's > time for a counterattack! > > When the chips were down during the Blitz, Churchill reversed the Nazi > momemtum by bombing Berlin. Doolittle struck at the heart of the > Japanese Empire during the darkest days after Pearl Harbor by bombing > Tokyo and MacArthur reversed the Chinese juggernaut by landing the > Marines at Inchon. Reagan beat the entire Soviet Union by simply > demanding and implementing a "rollback!" > > We too can demand and win Rollback. It must become our rallying cry. > > Gentlemen - your target for today - the 1968 Gun Control Act. > > It is a NAZI LAW and a prime target too long neglected. Recall how the > Left has many times caused Republicans to recoil in horror at the > accusation of being called "Nazi"? We have to learn to play the > emotional appeal game. The GCA is a ripe target. > > The 1968 Gun Control Act was lifted in large part from the Nazi Weapons > Law of 1938** and introduced by Democratic Senator Dodd who, notably, > managed to both fend off criticism and win it's passage -- based on > **emotional** attack and appeal (e.g. sympathy in wake of MLK and Bobby > Kennedy assassinations). > > The methodology might go like this.. > > "Ladies and Gentlemen of the Senate/House, there is a Nazi hiding here > -- in this Senate/House -- I am certain that you will ALL agree that the > EVIL that was Nazism has NO PLACE in the body of American law! I call > on you to assist me in calling this evil out into the open and > exorcising it from this august house." > > [Pulling out a copy of the 1968 Gun Control Act with a Swastika > Coversheet. Now saying with some anger] > > "...THIS is it! THIS is the 1968 Gun Control Act -- lifted chapter and > verse from the NAZI Weapons Law of 1938! That's right, Ladies and > Gentlemen, this was and IS a NAZI LAW! It is outrageous and despicable > that a law created under the monster Hitler now controls the lives of > law-abiding American citizens. It offends me, it offends the people of > America, it offends the Constitution! [now holding up a copy of the Bill > of Rights] > > "This is an evil NAZI LAW Ladies and Gentlemen. It must be killed like > the Vampire that it is... sucking the freedom from the American People. > > [Now produce a phone directory - lay it upon the podium - lay the NAZI > LAW upon the directory - now produce a mallet and wooden stake -- drive > the stake through the Swastika coversheet of the 1968 Gun Control Act - > - hold up the impaled document] > > "Can there be any choice between the United States Constitution [holding > up the Constitution] and a NAZI LAW?" > [holding up the NAZI GCA'68] > > "The answer is obvious. I will call for a Roll Call vote on H/S-XXXX > repealing the NAZI LAW, we shall see who the NAZI sympathizers and who > upholds and defends the US Constitution as they have sworn to do." > > "Mr. Speaker I yield back my time." > > Colorful, yes. Dramatic, yes. > > Not enough listen to the dry facts, figures and history. This one would > put the Leftists on the spot and clearly delineate the Left from the > Americans. Even if initially voted down, the fact that Senator/ > Congressman X **supported** a NAZI LAW could and should be used as a > campaign issue. Another thing, keep introducing the repeal until it > passes, including as riders within Omnibus Budget Acts. Persistance is > another area where we fall short. > > I am currently looking for work on Capitol Hill and will personally > campaign to see if I can convince a Congressman or Senator to put > forward just such an argument. Heck, I'd do it myself if sent to > Washington. > > It needs to be done. > > In Liberty, > > Rick V. > > --------------------------------- > Supporting documentation > --------------------------------- > ** ". . . we are enclosing herewith a translation of the Law on Weapons > of March 18, 1938, prepared by Dr. William Solyom-Fekete of [the > European Law Division -- ed.] as well as the Xerox of the original > German text which you supplied" (Subcommittee Hearings, p. 489, emphasis > added). > > This letter makes it public knowledge that at the end of June 1968 -- 4 > months before GCA '68 was enacted -- Senator Thomas J. Dodd, now > deceased, personally owned a copy of the original German text of the > Nazi Weapons Law. > > Why did Dodd own the original German text of any Nazi law? Why did he > make known that he owned it? > .. > The prosecutors at Nuremberg doubtless knew of the Nazi Weapons Law. > They probably saw it in the 'Reichsgesetzblatt.' On the same day that > Nazi Interior Minister Frick signed the Weapons Law, March 18, 1938... > ('Reichsgesetzblatt' 1938, I, p. 262; the Nazi Weapons Law..). > .. > He may not have realized that he was revealing a broader truth; that the > whole fabric of GCA '68 was based on the Nazi Weapons Law, even if the > specific registration proposal was not so based... This hearing record > suggests strongly that the late Senator Thomas J. Dodd (D-CT) himself > implanted the Nazi Weapons Law into American law, or, at very least, > helped others to do so." http://jpfo.org/GCA_68.htm > > > * Leftists Complain About Success of Reagan Rollback Doctrine > http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Foreign_Policy/ReaganDoctrine_TW Rollback.html http://www.dailyrepublican.com/cityhall/messages/29.html - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The Right to Self Defense is a Fundamental Human Right - RKBA - ---------------------------------------------------------------- [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Mar 99 03:13:45 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: My dear Bank Manager.........] (fwd) On Mar 11, Omegamarc@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] In a message dated 3/10/99 > BANK ON MY ACCOUNT, OLD CHAP > > My dear Bank Manager, I am writing to thank you for > bouncing the cheque with which I endeavoured to pay my plumber last > month. By my calculations some three nano-seconds must have elapsed > between his presenting the cheque, and the arrival in my account of the > funds needed to honour it. I refer, of course, to the automatic > monthly deposit of my entire salary, an arrangement which, I admit, has > only been in place or eight years. You are to be commended for seizing > that brief window of opportunity, and also for debiting my account by > way of penalty fo the inconvenience I caused your bank. > > My thankfulness springs from the manner in which this incident has > caused me to re-think my errant financial ways. You have set me on the > path of fiscal righteousness. No more will our relationship be blighted > by these unpleasant incidents, for I am restructuring my affairs in > 1999,taking as my model, the procedures, attitudes and conduct of your > very own bank. > > I can think of no greater compliment, and I know you will be excited > and proud to hear it. To this end, please be advised about the > following changes. > > First, I have noticed that whereas I personally attend to your > telephone calls and letters, when I try to contact you I am confronted > by the impersonal, ever-changing, pre-recorded, faceless entity which > your bank has become. From now on I, like you, chose only to deal with > a flesh and blood person. My mortgage and loan repayments will, > therefore and hereafter, no longer be automatic, but will arrive at > your bank by personal cheque, addressed personally and confidentially > to an employee of your branch, whom you must nominate. > > You will be aware that it is an offence under the Postal Act for any > other person to open such an envelope. > Please find attached an Application for Contact Status which I > require your chosen employee to complete. I am sorry it runs to > eight pages,but in order that I know as much about him or her as your > bank knows about me, there is no alternative. Please note that all > copies of his/her medical history must > be countersigned by a Justice of the Peace, and that the mandatory > details of his/her financial situation (income, debts, assets and > liabilities) must be accompanied by documented proof. In due course I > will ssue your employee with a PIN number which he/she must quote in all > dealings with me. I regret that it cannot be shorter than 28 digits > but, again, I have modelled it on the number of button presses required > to > access my account balance on your phone bank service. As they say, > imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. > > Let me level the playing field even further by introducing you to my new > telephone system, which you will notice, is very much like yours. My > Authorized Contact at your bank, the only person with whom I will have > any dealings, may call me at any time and be answered by an automated > voice. By pressing the buttons on the phone, he/she will be guided > through an extensive set of menus: > 1) to make an appointment to see me > 2) to query a missing repayment > 3) to make a general complaint or inquiry, and so on. > > The contact will then be put on hold, pending the attention of my > automated answering service. While this may on occasion involve a > lengthy wait, uplifting music will play for the duration. This month > I have chosen to refrain from The Best of Woody Guthrie: > Oh the banks are made of marble > With a guard at every door > And the vaults are filled with silver > That the miners sweated for! > > After twenty minutes of that, our mutual contact will probably know it > off by heart. On a more serious note, we come to the matter of cost. As > your bank has often pointed out, the ongoing drive for greater > efficiency comes at a cost - a cost which you have always been quick to > pass on to me. Let me repay your kindness by passing some costs back. > First, there is the matter of advertising material you send me. This I > will read for a fee of $20 per A4 page. Inquiries from your nominated > contact will be billed at $5 per minute of my time spent in response. > Any debits to my account, as, for example, in the matter of the penalty > for the dishonoured cheque, will be passed back to you. My new phone > number service runs at 75 cents per minute (even Woody Guthrie doesn't > come free), so keep your inquiries brief and to the point. > > Regrettably, but again following your example, I must also levy an > establishment fee to cover the setting up of this new arrangement. May > I wish you a happy, if ever-so-slightly less prosperous, New Year. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #221 *************************