From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #235 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Thursday, April 29 1999 Volume 02 : Number 235 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:36:10 -0700 From: Kenneth Mitchell Subject: Yet Another poll - on Concealed Carry Take the poll on concealed carry at http://www.cnn.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Mitchell Citrus Heights, CA kmitchel@gvn.net 916-995-9152 (vm) 916-729-0966 (fax) - --------------http://www.gvn.net/~creative/home.htm---------------- "lighght" This is not a typo. This is a poem funded by the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) that cost taxpayers $1,500. "lighght" is not the title; it's the entire poem. - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Founding Member: "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 99 01:09:32 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Take heart, people (fwd) On Apr 27, Don Cline wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] More indications the trend may have reached foldback limiting: Two or three times now, reporters have asked what good more laws will do when the existing law did not prevent the massacre at Columbine High School. As I mentioned in a previous message, out of eight or ten letters to the Arizona Republic on the tragedy, only one expressed the belief that more gun control is the answer. Then, this evening, my wife watched the local and national news (I was still at work) and reported that _several_ _times_ during the segments on Clinton's new gun package, various talking heads asked questions that boiled down to "What's the point?" or "What good will that do?", referring to the fact that the existing laws didn't stop Harris and Klebold, and it is unlikely any additional laws are likely to stop anyone in the future. And then they reported a female crimewatch reporter in England gunned down, and said England has had something like 335 firearm homicides -- my wife was not sure of the exact number, but was surprised it was so many, and VERY surprised the talking heads were reporting it! Gun control may have spilled over the top, finally, and revealed itself to be a fool's pipedream. We can pray. - -- Don Cline, WB6OCO frdmftr@mindspring.com www.mindspring.com/~frdmftr (Central Arizona) - --------------------------------------- 146.52 simplex monitored 24 hours a day. CTCSS 94.8Hz at various times during the day; DTSS 413 at night. - --------------------------------------- "Do you have the right of free speech?" "Yes." "Do you own a gun?" "No." "Shut up." - --------------------------------------- GOD MADE MAN. SAM COLT MADE MAN EQUAL. - --------------------------------------- - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 05:35:23 -0500 From: larry ball Subject: Clinton & The NRA Clinton says that the NRA should not frightening its members and cave into reasonable gun controls. He, and NATO, said the same thing about the Serbian Press and Media. Clinton sent a cruise missle to destroy the Serbian Press, can we expect a cruise missle to similarly arrive at NRA Headquarters? Larry Ball lball@inetnebr.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:54:36 -0400 From: Tom Cloyes Subject: Re: Yet Another poll - on Concealed Carry Just voted, we're loosing big time on this one, 34% for our side, 52% for their side. Tom At 09:36 PM 4/27/99 -0700, you wrote: >Take the poll on concealed carry at http://www.cnn.com/ >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Ken Mitchell Citrus Heights, CA kmitchel@gvn.net >916-995-9152 (vm) 916-729-0966 (fax) >--------------http://www.gvn.net/~creative/home.htm---------------- >"lighght" > >This is not a typo. This is a poem funded by the National Endowment >for the Arts (NEA) that cost taxpayers $1,500. "lighght" is not the >title; it's the entire poem. >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Founding Member: "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" > >- > - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 99 11:33:08 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: abc.com poll... (fwd) On Apr 28, Michael Martino wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] America should declare war on Yugoslavia 11.8% Guns 24.3% Both 15.8% Neither 47.9% As of 0914 EDT Wednseday, April 28. like I said... - -MikeM _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 99 11:37:22 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: March! (fwd) On Apr 28, Posthill, John B. wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > MARCH ON WASHINGTON '99 > > SATURDAY, MAY 1, 1999, NOON - 5:00 PM, WASHINGTON, D.C. NW QUADRANT OF > THE ELLIPSE (SOUTH SIDE OF THE WHITE HOUSE) > > Speakers will include, > > The Honorable Bob Barr: Congressman 7th District Georgia > http://www.house.gov/barr/welcome.htm > > Bill Triplett: Co-Author of "Year of the Rat" > > http://www.capitolhillblue.com/audio/golden-triplett040799.htm > > Herb Titus, Constitutionalist > http://www.ustaxpayers.org/ > > Tom Akdins, Executive Editor: The Common Conservative > http://commonconservative.com > > Bob Djurdjevic's : Truth In Media > http://www.truthinmedia.org/ > > Cliff Kincaid: Founder, America's Survival; Writer, Accuracy in Media; > co-author, Michael New: Mercenary or Soldier? > http://www.aim.org/ > > Garland Favorito: Citizens for Honest Government, Georgia Volunteer > Chapter Coordinator > http://www.chg.org/ > > Maureen Hogan: Clinton Investigative Commission > http://www.impeachclinton.org/ > > Andrew Amirault Journalist/Activist, Organizer, > March on Washington '99 > http://www.march99.com > > Pat Cooksey Founder, True Blue Patriots > http://home.fuse.net/trueblue/ > > Supporting Organizations/Websites > > TRUE BLUE PATRIOTS > http://home.fuse.net/trueblue/ > True Blue is a nonpartisan effort to encourage people to speak up and > demand that elected officials stop increasing taxes, introduce spending > cuts now and focus on reducing government waste. > > VISION > True Blue is a nationwide voter education organization, begun and managed > by grassroots efforts. The educational organization encourages grassroots > involvement in local, state and federal government, working within the > process framework. Leadership and members promote and uphold the views of > responsibility and freedom described by the founding fathers in the > Constitution and Bill of Rights. Members give of their skills and talents, > voices and time to educate citizens in the day-to-day, practical > implementation of the phrase, "government of the people, by the people, > and for the people. > > Citizens For Honest Government > > http://www.chg.org/ > > Citizens for Honest Government was founded in January, 1994 as a > non-partisan, non-profit, grass roots organization to promote honest > government. Citizens uses video journalism as an alternate news medium to > inform Americans about government activities that historically are > concealed > from them. The videos produced by Citizens for Honest Government include > The Clinton Chronicles, The Death of VInce Foster, Mena Cover-up, 60 > Minutes Deception and Obstruction of Justice. > > Call 1-800-777-8127 for information on the event, travel, and how to help. > > Financial support is also greatly appreciated. > We need Americans to step forward with us--both prayerfully and > financially--today. > > To contribute, please send check or money order: > > MARCH ON WASHINGTON '99 > Box 31 > South Kent, CT 06785 > > Sign on that you will attend March 99 at our Website: > http://www.march99.com > > Additional Participating Websites: > www.home.fuse.net/trueblue - True Blue home page > www.worldwebtalk.com - Thursday evenings, 8-11 PM EST > www.impeachclinton.org > http://www.hannity.com/ > www.directsourceradio.com > www.commonconservative.com > > Contact: Pat Cooksey, 1-800-777-8127 > > > MARCH ON WASHINGTON '99 -- a nonpartisan demonstration demanding the > immediate resignation of President Bill Clinton -- is being held on > Saturday, May 1, 1999, from 12 noon to 5 pm at The Ellipse (closest to > south end of the White House). > > We, the SILENT MAJORITY, who have never been polled, who work to provide > for our families and take responsibility for our actions, believe it's > time to take a stand regarding the political issues which threaten to > utterly destroy our great nation. This protest is a call to > > * Preserve world peace by demanding a full and immediate withdrawal of > NATO forces from the Balkans. Bill Clinton has systematically used > military aggression as a diversionary tactic, and it must stop > immediately. > > * Preserve our national security by demanding that the Clinton > administration be held accountable for numerous illegal campaign > contributions received from communist China, and the numerous technology > transfers that occurred in spite of objections from many government > agencies. > * > * > * Restore the fundamental American principle of equal justice under > law for all citizens -- most urgently, the Clinton administration -- and > thereby preserve America as one nation under God. > * > * > * Boycott any media outlet, newspaper or publication not objectively > investigating and reporting the full range of scandals surrounding the > Clinton administration. America's major media organizations are protecting > the Clinton White House, and it must stop immediately. > > Because this is a grassroots effort, we ask that you help spread the news > of this rally nationwide by forwarding -- via e-mail, fax, phone, and > snail mail -- the address of this website to all those who might be > interested. > > If you plan to join us in Washington D.C. on May 1st, please vote your > attendance in our poll on the right side of this page. WE WILL NOT BE > SILENT! > > Note: Possible accomodations: > Howard Johnson's > Address: 1430 Rhode Island Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20005, US > Area Served: Arlington, Virginia, Baltimore, Maryland, Washington, > District of Columbia > Property Phone: 202 462-7777 > Howard Johnson Plazas, Hotels, Inns, and Express Inns Reservation Phone > Number:1-800-I-GO-HOJO (1-800-446-4656) > Fax: 202 332-3519 > Email: info@hojodc.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 99 11:38:17 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Send this one to "respectable" gun owners and hunters, too. (fwd) On Apr 28, RHill@MICKEY.GC.WHECN.EDU wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Here's another one that might jolt the deer-rifles-only crowd into reality. Roy Hill http://www.nytimes.com/library/national/042899clinton-guns.html By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE ASHINGTON -- President Clinton on Tuesday beseeched the hunters and sportsmen who make up much of the nation's gun culture to accept certain regulations and restrictions as a tradeoff to help curb the easy access to firearms and try to save lives. "I want to make a plea to everybody who is waiting for the next deer season in my home state to think about this in terms of what our reasonable obligations to the larger community of America are," Clinton said at a White House ceremony where he announced his gun-control package, which he sent to Capitol Hill on Tuesday, a week after the lethal rampage at a school in Littleton, Colo. The president, who said he took up target practice when he was 12 years old in Arkansas, presented himself as a product of the gun culture and said he understood the fear that many had that any restrictions were a first step toward taking away their firearms. He said the rest of society needed to persuade rural Americans that restrictions on guns were as reasonable as metal detectors at airports and that the inconvenience of restrictions would be worth it by saving lives. His proposed legislation includes a measure to restrict the purchase of handguns to one a month per person and to restore a waiting period before someone could buy a gun -- two proposals that have gone nowhere before. The package also includes raising the minimum age for buying a handgun from 18 to 21, banning possession of semi-automatic assault rifles by juveniles and requiring background checks on people who want to buy explosives and on people who buy guns at gun shows. And it would impose felony penalties on adults who knowingly or recklessly allow a child to have access to a gun that is used to commit a crime. The president would also ban the import of large-capacity ammunition clips. On Capitol Hill, Republican leaders showed little interest in Clinton's proposals. Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi, the majority leader, dismissed gun control as "the typical knee-jerk reaction" to school shootings. "I don't think this is just about guns," he said, calling instead for "a national conference on youth and culture" to explore the broader societal causes of the killings. Rep. Tom DeLay of Texas, the House Republican whip who was threatened last year by a gunman in the Capitol, accused Clinton of trying to exploit a tragedy for political benefit. "Only one thought came to mind when watching the president unveil his proposal today: How dare you?" DeLay added: "I can only say to the president that your legislation, no matter how well it polls, will not solve the problems we face." But support for some provisions came from some unlikely quarters. Robert Ricker, executive director of the American Shooting Sports Council, which represents the firearms industry, said his group supported the idea of background checks on people who buy guns at gun shows, particularly because of early reports that some of the weapons used in Littleton were bought at such shows. "That will get a lot of consideration," he predicted. The National Rifle Association is declining comment on the package until it holds its convention later this week. The sports council and the rifle association parted ways recently when the council backed a call that manufacturers voluntarily put safety locks on firearms. Some of those who lined up with the president on Tuesday blamed the gun lobby outright for school shootings. Sen. John Chafee, R-R.I., said the term "school violence" glossed over the problem. "This isn't about schools," he said. "It's about guns. This is about the insanely easy access Americans, including American children, have to guns. This is about the distorted interpretation of the Constitution that convinces otherwise rational citizens that it's their inalienable right to be armed to the teeth." His language was sharper than that of either the president or Hillary Rodham Clinton, who, in opening the White House event, focused more broadly on cultural causes and tried to strike a reassuring note. "All of us here are searching for answers to what happened in Littleton," Mrs. Clinton said. "But that does not mean that we are either hopeless or helpless in the face of this tragedy." She pointed to the availability of guns but also said a media culture that "glorifies violence on TV, in the movies, on the Internet, in songs" and in video games could desensitize children so that they "lose their empathy for fellow human beings." The premise of Clinton's speech was that the Littleton shootings grew out of both the culture of violence and the gun culture, but he focused on the latter and told Americans to reach out to sportsmen and appeal to their common sense. "You change the culture," Clinton said, "we'll change the laws." [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 99 11:39:07 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Yet Another Poll (fwd) On Apr 28, Bob Mueller wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/04/27/clinton.crime/ This one about Clinton's proposals: Do you think President Clinton's new weapons regulations will be made law? yes, because of the Columbine shooting only yes, because it is the right thing to do no, because the NRA is too powerful no, because Congress won't tackle a difficult issue before an election no, because it is the wrong thing to do Surprisingly, the last choice is winning - but a bigger margin can't hurt! Bob Mueller - Consultant Compuware Corporation The United States Trotting Association 614-224-2291 Ext. 3234 bmueller@ustrotting.com Get into Harness Racing at http://www.ustrotting.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 99 13:37:40 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Stop The War Now (fwd) On Apr 28, Bill Utterback wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] I'm participating in an Internet campaign to stop the war in=20 Yugoslavia before ground troops are deployed, and I'd like to=20 invite you to join me. Please forward this message to any friends, family, co-workers,=20 neighbors, or other people you know personally who may be=20 interested.=20 Then go to http://www.StopTheWarNow.com and sign the petition. It=20 will be submitted directly to your representative in the U.S.=20 House and to both your U.S. Senators. Every day that this undeclared war continues, it becomes more=20 likely that ground troops will be deployed, and that we will find=20 ourselves in another Vietnam-style quagmire. As the war escalates,=20 it will become increasingly difficult for politicians to admit=20 that they made a mistake, end the war, and bring our troops home. The bombing of Yugoslavia is a textbook example of the folly of=20 foreign intervention: So far, the US-NATO air assault has=20 accomplished the exact opposite of what President Clinton=20 promised.=20 Our bombardment has prompted more attacks on innocent civilians,=20 worsened the plight of refugees, caused the conflict to spill over=20 to neighboring nations, and inflamed anti-American sentiments=20 around the world. Bombing errors have resulted in the deaths of=20 refugees -- the very people we are supposed to be protecting. We acknowledge the terrible human suffering of ethnic Albanians in=20 Kosovo -- suffering which has been exacerbated by our reckless=20 attack on Yugoslavia. However, that tragedy does not justify=20 American military intervention that puts our nation at risk. The job of the American military is to defend the United States=20 and to keep Americans safe. Instead, our air assault on Yugoslavia=20 has reduced our military preparedness, reignited Cold War tensions=20 with Russia, and made us a more tempting target for terrorists.=20 If the American people don't speak out, the war will continue to=20 escalate, ground troops will be eventually be deployed, and=20 American casualties will rise. If we don't want that to happen, we=20 must persuade our representatives in Congress to stop the war now. Please forward this e-mail to everyone you know who might be=20 interested in helping, but please don't send it indiscriminately=20 - -- spam will only hurt our campaign. Then go to http://www.StopTheWarNow.com and sign the petition.=20 for Liberty, Bill Utterback [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 99 16:09:18 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Harris on drugs Just in on ABC news: Harris, one of the Colorado Killers, attempted to join the Marines, but was rejected when it was discovered that he'd been on mood altering drugs, and had lied about it. I guess he's just another, "Ritalin Reject", or whatever..... Not to engender another debate between the Drug Worshippers and the Nasty Side Effects crowds, of course.....:-/ - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 99 16:10:15 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fwd: it's time for locks and other restrictions (fwd) On Apr 28, Mike Riddle wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] WASHINGTON -- An outraged Hillary Rodham Clinton called today for new legislation aimed at preventing the misuse of penises, especially by those who should not have them in the first place. "The entire nation has stood in anguish over the last year as we have seen, time after time, the lives wrecked by the failures of existing penis-control legislation," the haggard first lady, who seems to be morphing into Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, told a crowd assembled at the White House to honor the memory of the victims of her husband's sexual assault spree. "How many more tragedies will there need to be before we say, 'enough'?" Mrs. Clinton asked in decrying the easy access to penises by people who are not responsible adults. She called for several new penis-control initiatives, including equipping every penis with an erection lock or a new high-tech device that prevents its use by anyone other than its rightful owner. Other aspects of the package would reduce the availability of penises at penis shows, and more extensive background checks for those seeking access to penises. "Too many of our young people are having their lives ruined by the effects of someone who has gone crazy with a penis," she added. "We need to assure that when someone owns a penis, it is kept safely locked away, where young people are safe from it." [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 99 00:41:04 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Yet Another poll! (fwd) On Apr 29, Voyager One wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] http://nt.excite.com/poll/ - -- - -------------------------------------- Voyager One The Launch Pad BBS Brighton, Illinois ====================================== Visit us at: (618) 372-7546 or on WWW http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Circuit/6309/TheLaunchPad.html [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 99 01:08:00 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: Re: New EO: Reservists' Call-Up (fwd) On Apr 28, Huck wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > Source: US Newswire > http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/Current_Releases/0427-116.htm > > Executive Order on Reservists > U.S. Newswire > 27 Apr 14:30 > > Text of White House Executive Order on Reservists > To: National Desk > Contact: White House Press Office, 202-456-2100 > > WASHINGTON, April 27 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was released > today by the White House: > > EXECUTIVE ORDER > - - - - - - - > ORDERING THE SELECTED RESERVE AND CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL > READY RESERVE MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES TO ACTIVE DUTY > > By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and > the laws of the United States of America, including sections 121 and > 12304 of title 10, United States Code, I hereby determine that it is > necessary to augment the active armed forces of the United States for > the effective conduct of operations in and around the former > Yugoslavia related to the conflict in Kosovo. Further, under the > stated authority, I hereby authorize the Secretary of Defense, and > the Secretary of Transportation with respect to the Coast Guard when > it is not operating as a service in the Department of the Navy, under > their respective jurisdictions, to order to active duty any units, > and any individual members not assigned to a unit organized to serve > as a unit, of the Selected Reserve, or any member in the Individual > Ready Reserve mobilization category and designated as essential under > regulations prescribed by the Secretary concerned, and to terminate > the service of those units and members ordered to active duty. > > This order is intended only to improve the internal management of > the executive branch and is not intended to create any right or > benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law by a party > against the United States, its agencies, its officers, or any person. > > WILLIAM J. CLINTON > > THE WHITE HOUSE, > April 27, 1999. > > -0- > /U.S. Newswire 202-347-2770/ > 04/27 14:30 > > Copyright 1999, U.S. Newswire [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 99 01:07:12 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Message from Daniel New (fwd) On Apr 28, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > David, I'd be glad to rebroadcast anything you wish to carry to the public= . > Just let me know. > > Rich Martin > Editor of Slick Thanks, Rich. Here's an article just published in East Texas Today, but copyrighted by me, so we can reproduce it. I have offered to others, but=20 don't know if it's been picked up by other newspapers or periodicals. Test your New World Order I.Q. Daniel D. New Readers of the internationalist magazine, Foreign Affairs, read this stateme= nt by Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., a few issues back: =93In the United States, neo-isolationism promises to prevent the most powerful nation on the planet from playing any role in enforcing the peace system. If we refuse a role, we cannot expect smaller, weaker, and poorer nations to ensure world order for us.=94 Okay, we all know that =93Isolationism is bad,=94 that America must carr= y the banner for solving all the world=92s problems. To do less is to be a selfis= h Isolationist. So here=92s an easy way to find out if you are part of the problem. Take this simple test to find your =93Internationalist Quotient.= =94 (And I=92ll do for you what my teachers never did for me: Give yourself 10 point= s as an Isolationist for every False and 10 points as an Internationalist for eve= ry True.) ___ I feel nothing deep inside when Old Glory passes in a parade. ___ I believe =93the American Way=94 is no better or worse than other countries. ___ If I (or my child) join the military, I would support their having to fight (and maybe die) in a war where no American interest is involved. ___ I think America really ought to become the policeman to the world. ___ It=92s fine with me if American soldiers are placed under the command of foreign officers who take an oath to serve the UN exclusively; ___ If it takes a draft to supply men and women to the UN military, I=92ll support it. ___ American Independence is really kind of an out-dated idea =96 nations should let the UN settle all disputes and put an end to all wars; ___ Every country ought to have a voice in the UN equal to America, even if they only have the population of New Hampshire and the economy of Arkansas; ___ If there=92s a conflict between a UN treaty and the US Constitution, then the UN treaty should prevail. ___ I think the =93Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag=94 should be replaced in our schools with a =93Pledge to the Planet.=94 Okay, now you know the score. You know if you=92re in tune with the pol= icy of the US government to reduce American sovereignty, and to implement a One World Government. If you answered five or more =93F=92s=94 on this test, no= w you know that you=92re the problem, as the government sees it, and until you (or=20 your children) are re-educated, we=92ll never have the New World Order promised u= s by George Bush, and worked for by Bill Clinton. If you=92re not willing for your children to be forced under the command = of foreign officers, and if you=92re not willing for them to die in a country y= ou never heard of, =93in the service of the United Nations,=94 as Al Gore put i= t,=20 then you just won=92t make in the =93Brave New World=94 of the next Millennium. In that Foreign Affairs article mentioned at the top, Schlesinger went o= n to say, =93We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for = it=20 in blood as well as in words and money.=94 Whose blood do you think he was talking about? __________________ Daniel D. New, fourth generation Texan, lives in Hamilton County, Texas, fro= m whence he lectures, writes and stays in touch with what the United Nations i= s doing. He just published his first book, MICHAEL NEW =96 Mercenary=85or Ame= rican Soldier? His son, Michael, was the first American soldier to ever be court-martialed for wanting to serve his country in its own uniform. The ca= se is still under appeal. For more information, contact the Michael New Action Fund, P.O. Box 100, Iredell, Texas 76649. Or visit their website at: MICHAEL NEW =AD Mercenary. . . or Ameri= can=20 Sold... [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 99 10:22:48 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fwd: Fw: Governor Bush's Betrayal (fwd) On Apr 29, ASSETNJ@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] From: "Tom Wright" To: Subject: Fw: Governor Bush's Betrayal Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 20:50:24 -0700 - -----Original Message----- From: Chris W.Stark To: email-subscribers@goa-texas.org Date: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 10:41 PM Subject: Governor Bush's Betrayal - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- POST & CROSSPOST FAR & WIDE! GUN OWNERS ALLIANCE !!ALERT!! Chris W. Stark - Director 915 Yacht Ct., P.O. Box 1924 Crosby, Texas 77532-1924 Ph. (281) 787-4111 Fax (281) 328-7505 http://www.GOA-Texas.org email: Director@GOA-Texas.org 04/27/1999 -------- It has been reported around Texas and the Nation, that Governor George Bush has decided to embarrass Texans. The Houston Chronicle reported: AUSTIN - Gov. George W. Bush, in the wake of the Colorado school shooting last week, endorsed a controversial gun control proposal that had been killed only hours earlier by a Texas House committee. The panel chairman, who voted against the bill, said the governor had never told him he supported it. Bush's statement also surprised supporters of the measure, which would require instant criminal background checks of people buying firearms from unlicensed sellers at gun shows. The House Public Safety Committee rejected Danburg's gun show bill, House Bill 1199, late Tuesday night, the same evening that news of the school shooting in Littleton, Colo., which left 15 people dead, was rocking the country. Rep. Bob Turner, D-Coleman, chairman of the House Public Safety Committee, said the governor's post-Littleton comments were "a bit of a knee-jerk reaction probably." "To this moment, the governor has never talked to me about the bill," said Turner, who voted against the measure. ********* For more info on Rep. Danburg's anti-gun show bill, go to: http://www.goa-texas.org/pub-saf-1.htm We appreciate the entire Public Safety Committee, and especially Rep. Bob Turner for taking the heat, and standing for the 2nd amendment. It is interesting to note that there was NO communication that Governor Bush was in favor of Rep. Danburg's gun show bill. That is, until it was time to play politics, after the horrific tragedy in Colorado. This, after the Public Safety committee vote represented the peoples will in Texas by defeating Danburg's anti-gun show bill! This was a critical point, where Governor Bush could have made Texans proud that he is our Governor, and a POSSIBLE PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDER. And, we had really hoped that since he had signed our CHL law in 1995, that he would stand firm NOW. Now, we see the real Governor George Bush of Texas. NOW the question is: What will he do if he becomes President?? You know, Senator Bob Smith is looking better every day for the Republican Presidential nomination. Senator Smith stood firm against the NICS background checks, and tried to stop the FBI from keeping a list of the names of gun owners. And this was against all odds! Go to http://www.gunowners.org/altbrtb.htm for more info on this issue. ************* ACTION ITEMS ************* THIS IS WHEN WE FIND OUT IF GOVERNOR BUSH IS THE MAN WE NEED FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. EVEN IF YOUR NOT A TEXAN, THERE STANDS THE CHANCE THAT THIS MAN MAY BE YOUR NEXT PRESIDENT. PLEASE HELP US WITH THE ITEMS BELOW: Interestingly, Congressional leaders from both parties in D.C. are not enthusiastic about the Clinton anti-gun proposals. Even Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle said: "I'm not sure that gun legislation is what we need." Some reporters have tied that reluctance, and Clinton's reluctance to push for broader measures, to the switch from Democrat to Republican control of both houses in 1994, which Clinton publicly stated was due to Democrat votes for the "assault weapons ban." Governor Bush needs to know your immense dissatisfaction in his "knee-jerk reaction" regarding Rep. Danburg's HB 1199. Let him know the same voting power that brought about the defeat of the anti-gunners in Washington D.C. back when the assault weapons ban & Brady bill was passed, is alive and well in Texas, and we would much rather use our influence in his Presidential nomination. Let him know that his financial lead in his Presidential quest could easily dry up by alienating the pro-gun vote. Remember, it was Bill Clinton who declared why many of his own party were no longer with him, after the Republican sweep. He credited the Gun Lobby! Remember to temper your conversation with a bit of "diplomacy". Rude and hateful comments will only set us back. But he must renounce his support for Danburg's anti-gun show ban! Also, remind him of bills in Calendars Committee: HB 1020, HB 1021, HB 1035, HB 1165 HB 1776, HB 2240, HB 2323 just to name a few. Tell him to prove to us that he is on our side by using his influence on the Calendars committee to pass these pro-gun bills! You may also have him prove his worth by having him use his influence in pressing the Criminal Jurisprudence committee for hearing on HB 3398, Vermont carry for Texas! http://www.goa-texas.org/hupp-7.htm You can contact the Governor at: 800-252-9600 or 512-463-1782 THIS IS WHEN WE FIND OUT IF GOVERNOR BUSH IS THE MAN WE NEED FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. ***************************************************************** Copyright (c) 1999, Gun Owners Alliance (GOA-Texas). Republication permitted provided this article & attribution is left intact in its original state. # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # The views contained herein do not necessarily reflect the views of any other individual or organization, than Gun Owners Alliance. 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