From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #244 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Wednesday, June 2 1999 Volume 02 : Number 244 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 May 99 09:48:04 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: call your congresscritter (fwd) On May 27, Shimm, David wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Below is a snippet from today's Washington Post. Call your congressman NOW (call the local office as well as the DC office) and let's show them they're wrong. A Gun Bill in the House Thursday, May 27, 1999; Page A38 THE MAILBAGS and e-mail baskets of House members continue to reflect strong public pressure for protection from gunfire [and] have forced at least some Republicans to change their tunes. ...GOP leaders in the House -- while not exactly stampeding toward serious regulation of America's outlandishly loose gun markets -- have budged a bit. ...[and] announced support for the modest measures included in the legislation passed by the Senate... More members are finding out that they can stray from the hard line of the NRA gun-pushers and live politically to tell about it. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 99 10:09:51 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Women Against Gun Control Needs Help (fwd) On May 26, Ned Kelly wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Women Against Gun Control Needs A Volunteer Webmaster If you, or know someone, who can help them let them know at this site: http://www.wagc.com/email/email-comments.html [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 May 99 23:56:01 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Call to arms (fwd) I don't recall the exact refs at the moment, but it is also Federal Law that: 1. Females may also be in the Militia on condition that they are Officers. 2. Those of us who are Veterans are Officially in the Militia until the age of 65. Just a couple of lesser known points..... On May 27, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] "They tell us, Sir, that we are weak unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of People, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Beside, Sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of Nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, Sir, is not to the strong alone. It is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, Sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable. and let it come! I repeat, Sir, let it come! It is in vain, Sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace! -- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the North will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our breathren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that Gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery! Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!" Reply-To: gsl@listbox.com To: gsl@listbox.com, kempgroup@egroups.com Subject: GSL> [conservativefriends] WS>>Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death! http://resistance.to > http://thePentagon.com/FullBookJacket > http://GunsSaveLives.com | This immortal speech has just as much meaning in 1999 as it did in 1775. http://tod.newportnet.com/lady/LIBERTY.htm [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 May 99 06:56:12 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: K-Mart reponse, a female point-of-view (fwd) Ok guys, check this out. Sister Alia seems to be one sharp cookie. Now for the 64 cent question, (inflation): Does this suggest any approaches we might take in getting _our_ messages across? On May 27, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Forwarded Message: Subj: Re: Why K-Mart isn't #1 any more Date: 5/23/99 12:35:31 PM EST From: aliadarrow@earthlink.net To: RichSlick@aol.com Okay. Another bullet from me. K-Mart is not being dumb. K-Mart knows the overwhelming purchasing group with power in America is female. And, the overwhelming amount of females would/could never get the attention of such a hunk of male as Tom Selleck (read George Gilders' Men & Marriage for more data on this). Rosie was used because she is so little-sisterish and unattractive that a majority of females will not feel threatened or intimidated by this "helpless" sister who cannot find a man to cherish her. They will back this sister up. Why? In doing so, the femmes get to feel more beautiful and powerful than Rosie. This is classic female behavior. And they get to "payback" at Tom Selleck for all the males they loved but who rejected them. So, bring on Rosie to go after the hunk Selleck and his pistol; and many jealous women feel vindicated. And of course, would want to shop at K-Mart - -- who understands their female rages. It was a set-up job, and all about bottom-line profit. Further, if more ugly femmes demand, now, that K-Mart STOP selling guns. K-Mart can rail in defense to the 2nd Amendment Supporters -- "our client base asked us to: we are a private business". "Sorry guys, we are business, we did all we could... blah blah" What Rosie did as a host was extremely rude. That she is also stupid was only magnified. She got used. Her own ignorance was used by powers beyond her ability to fathom. This is just SOB as usual. ...Alia [snip] >v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ > THE MICHAEL NEW ACTION FUND > P.O. Box 100 > Iredell, Texas 76649 > MICHAEL NEW Home Page > v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ > MEMORIAL DAY > > Memorial Day is coming. Show your love of liberty by flying > the 13 star Betsy Ross flag. 3 ft X 5ft polyester with metal > gromets. $14.95 + $2.50 S&H. Wholesale prices available to > dealers. E-mail for dealer information, or send order to: > P. Long, Dept. S, PO Box 23963, Tucson, AZ 85734 > russ45@primenet.com > > And don't forget, June 14 is Flag day. It flies upsidedown > as well as rightside up. RichSlick > > If you have your own web site, you know it's not enough > to be on the internet with 30,000,000 geeks. Oh, search > engines are great---for the other guy, but wouldn't you > prefer to be a little more direct? Instead of trying to > reach millions of people who can't spell your name, here's > your chance to target thousands of politically active > people like yourself. Send e-mail for details to RichSlick. > > * * * * * > > Subscribe to this Slick e-zine featuring Kathie's Korner, > and receive absolutely free, a copy of Rich's Major Media > Mailing List containing over 400 e-mail addresses. To > subscribe, send your check for $12.50 to the address at the > top of this message. Be sure to include your e-mail address. > > THE TRUTH IS... > > A. Powerful. C. In the eye of the beholder. > B. Irrelevant. D. All of the above. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 May 99 06:01:56 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Fighting back (fwd) On May 31, Jim Zoes wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] From: "Joel A. Butler, MD" Subject: Fighting back Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 23:37:28 -0500 To: Undisclosed.Recipients@Edison.EBICom.Net > Any hope of getting the trial liar-yars enlisted to go after gummint on > behalf of plantiffs injured by criminals with guns 'after' not being > prosecuted for felonies gummint discovered in the course of background > checks? Nope. My wife received the Trial Layers Associaton's most recent journal. It simply ooozes vitrol for the evil gun makers. [Translation: Follow that ambulance...quick!] > If law prohibits this, shouldn't we lobby to get it changed and turn the > tables regarding trial liar-yars? > > Opinions anyone? Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to have tort reform to prevent these things. And, with careful introspection, you probably wouldn't want to. Look, many product liability suits are bullshit. However, occasionally companies get caught with a serious breach of civil ethics when they deliberatly manufacture items that they know are dangerous, but refuse to fix. The Firestone 500 tire comes to mind, but that's another story... In our zeal to deal with these lawsuits, we must be careful to not foreclose on our rights for future product liability redress. In otherwords, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There only a few things that intimidate a lawyer that are within the law, I think. One is a suit against him/her personally. There are two kinds of suit that might be applicable: A RICO action against him/her for conspiracy, or a malpractice suit. A second type of action (not actually a suit, but a legal action) is a complaint against the lawyer before his/her state bar's attorney registeration and discliplinary board. Such complaints must have grounds, and if the allegations are egregious enough and can be proved, they can be disbarred -- either permanently or for a period of several years, and or heavily fined. The third type of action would be for the gun makers (if they prevail, like Baretta did last year) to ask for sanctions against the attorneys and the plaintifs bringing the suit. Baretta was awarded their legal costs by the 9th District. Before any of the above can be done, though, there has to be a thing called "standing" -- which is a legal term for being a victim (in this case) of the lawyers, foundations, and/or cities in question. As individual gun owners, we do not have standing to start a legal proceeding against the lawyers and foundations attacking the gun makers. But the gun makers do. If they chose to. Collectively, however, we *might* have standing, if we can show that the activities of the cities and anti-gun groups have harmed us as a group. But a class action suit can't be brought overnight. It took the abortionists years before they were able to sue "Operation Rescue." And then it took years to win in the district court -- and the appeal process may take even more years. Arguing that the activities of the gun grabbing attornies, foundations, and cities affect our rights, while true, would be difficult to prove in court, absent a smoking gun of conspiracy, in my humble and legally uneducated opinion. The fourth kind of thing is bad publicity and/or demonstrations that affect their professional and personal lives. This we can do! We can exercise our 1st Amendment rights to protest what is going on. Provided we can get our gun owning brethern to put aside their laziness and apathy, and get them off their butts to do something other than simply bitch, that is. We can demonstrate against the lawyers, foundations, and cities filing these suits. We can protest directly by mailing, faxing, or emailing them. We can ask other gun owners who do business with them get involved and refuse goods and services to them in a boycott. We can make it known that there is a price to pay outside of the courthouse and the foundation board room. That kind of pressure we can and should use against the trial lawyer community, the foundations, and the cities who are suing the gun makers. Now, foundations can much pretty do what ever they want to do. They have the money and money talks and bullshit walks. BUT, if a RICO connection can be discovered, then they have deep pockets that can be bled dry by OUR lawyers. However, we will never be able to find it out unless someone who today has standing in the courts to get in their files via discovery. So, unless the gun makers start the counter attack, or unless the Second Amendment Foundation goes ahead with their lawsuit against the cities, then there is very little *we* as individuals can do to stop the lawsuits, outside of protesting .... Here's some specific ideas we can use to fight back. As individuals, we can write/email the lawyers and foundations and protest their activities. A strong, but polite letter or email message is a perfectly proper way to protest their actions. See below for some of the lawyer and foundation contact information. It's fair to tell them that you object to what they are doing. In their pridefull arrogance, they'll ignore this, of course. But many of these lawyers have aspiratins beyond chasing ambulances. I personally know a number of lawyers who think they are the next Oliver Wendel Holmes or ought to be the next Senator or Governor. I think it's a perfectly fair thing to do to remind the gun owning voters should any of these lawyers decide to reach for elective or appointive office. There must be a political price to pay for trying to disarm us. As an aside, I think a public campaign of opposition to trial lawyers who are suing a legal business has the capability disuading other trial lawyers from taking up the cause for gun control. In addition, we can press for legislative action to make such suits illegal. We must be careful because it could turn into a pro-business, anti-consumer effort for general tort reform. I think the suits against gun makers are illegal, and should be stopped, so don't get me wrong. We can picket the lawyers and foundations offices and hold rallys. But, you can bet that the media will either not cover it or diminish the size of the protest like they did in Chicago a few months ago. Here's a list of some of the lawyers and foundations involved in trying to make the 2nd Amendment academic (a guarenteed individual right, but with no guns on the market to buy). Also, you can go http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPcap/1999-05/19/012r-051999-idx.html for further information, and NRA Members should read their May magazines, which has pictures and bios of some of these enemies of ours. Foundations: Soros: Open Society Institute - New York 400 West 59th Street New York, NY 10019 tel: (212) 548 0350 fax: (212) 548 4677 Aryeh Neier, President Gara LaMarche, Director of U.S. Programs Amy Yenkin, Associate Director, U.S. Programs Center on Crime, Communities & Culture Nancy Mahon, Director e-mail: nmahon@sorosny.org Joyce: The Joyce Foundation Three First National Plaza 70 West Madison Street Suite 2750 Chicago, Illinois 60602 Phone: (312) 782-2464 Fax: (312) 782-4160 General Information: info@joycefdn.org MacArthur Foundation: The John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation Office of Grants Management 140 S. Dearborn Street Chicago, IL 60603 USA Phone: 312/726-8000 Fax: 312/920-6258 TDD: 312/920- 6285 4answers@macfdn.org Wellness Foundation: Ezra C. Davidson, Jr., MD, Chairman of the Board Barbara Marshall, R.N., Vice Chair Gary L. Yates, President and CEO Thomas G. David, Executive Vice President The California Wellness Foundation. 6320 Canoga Avenue, Suite 1700, Woodland Hills, CA 91367. Phone: (818) 593-6600 Fax: (818) 593 6614 Ambulance Chasers: JOHN P. COALE Coale Cooley Lietz McInerny & Broadus Suite 857 818 Connecticut Ave Washington, District of Columbia 20006 Phone: (202) 887-4770 Fax: (202) 686-9739 jcoale@sprynet.com WENDELL H. GAUTHIER Gauthier, Downing, LaBarre, Beiser & Dean, A Professional Law Corporation 3500 North Hullen Street Metairie, Louisiana 70002 (Jefferson Parish) Telephone: 504-456-8600 Telecopier: 504-456-8624 Web-Site: http://www.Gauthier-Downing.com whg@gauthier-downing.com DENNIS A. HENIGAN Center To Prevent Handgun Violence Suite 1100 1225 Eye St Washington, District of Columbia 20005-3914 Phone: (202) 862-5300 (This asshole is HCI's legal director, but he doesn't publish his email address -- wonder why...) Elisa Barnes 51st Floor 20 Exchange Place New York, New York 10005-3201 Fax: (212) 483-0876 ebarnesesq@aol.com Jim Zoes Subject: Re: Fwd: More Governmental Excess (WorldNetDaily) (fwd) > >Most Americans have grown to trust their government to protect them and >their rights. > >This is why Americans are flirting with a loss of all freedom. > >If you wonder what a total government power monopoly will be like, all you >need to do is examine the reaction by government schools to the recent rash >of student attacks. > IMNSHO, we are already living in a totalitarian state in many respects. The escalation of controls on property, currency, efforts to limit speech, radically increased private and police surveillance, high rates of incarceration, punishing tax rates, etc. constitute unreasonable totalitarian control. It all comes cloaked in a velvet glove, very sophisticated, very hip, very caring but it comes anyway. Just look at the conviction rates in Federal courts and acknowledge that those prosecutors don't even have to *win* to punish a citizen, they just have to bring the accusation. I defy you to identify a major civilization that exercised more control over more citizens than the current rule in the Western powers. ciao, jcurtis - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 16:12:53 +0100 From: boyd@seanet.com Subject: Re: Fwd: More Governmental Excess (WorldNetDaily) (fwd) Bill, this PURGE thing, it's deliberate irony right? Someone, seeing how power tends to concentrate adopted the definitive term for Uncle Joes political tactics and adapted their acronym to it, right? Am I reading to much into it? If so, I think my spin is -way- more humorously ironic then anyone elses ; ) -Boyd (sorry if I'm just not being with it here) Kneeland Bill Vance wrote: > > On Jun 2, ASSETNJ@aol.com wrote: > > [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > > From: PolitUnion@aol.com > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 07:36:04 EDT > Subject: More Governmental Excess (WorldNetDaily) > > Comments, anyone? > > The Political Union for the Reform of Governmental Ethics (PURGE) > (politunion@aol.com) > > WEDNESDAY JUNE 02 1999 > > Joseph Farah is editor of WorldNetDaily.com and executive director of the > Western Journalism Center, an independent group of investigative reporters. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > A glimpse of totalitarianism snip-a-roo - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 99 16:09:31 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: Should Clinton be tried as war criminal? (fwd) On Jun 02, Eugene Gross wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Hi Folks, Go vote! One way or another, vote and send a message!! http://www.becounted.com/ En Agape, Gene [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 99 20:05:17 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: At last the reason! According to Richard Mayberry(sp?), author of, "Whatever Happened to Justice?", the reason we're in Kosovo and a hundred other places, is an oversight of the Founders. The oversight is that the Bill Of Rights stops at the border. Klinton can't get away with doing it as easily here, but he can do _whatever_he_wants_ over there, and so he is. I forget the source, but there's a quote that says something about, "Success doesn't change men, it _unmasks_ them." Maybe it's time to amend the Constitution again. Got any good language? Mr. Mayberry has an investment newsletter you can get through: 1-800-509-5400 for $99 a year. You can get it for $50 off if you mention hearing it on the Gary Ryan show interview. I may not have caught this right, but he mentioned that, "Newport News(?)", is a good future investment, as they're the only maker of Aircraft Carriers, and as Klinton is busily making us as many enemies as possible, we're going to need a lot of them soon. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Jun 99 20:07:32 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fwd: CDF Action Alert June 2, 1999 (fwd) On Jun 2, C. D. Tavares wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] If you're too lazy to call your congresscritters, you need to know that your enemies aren't. >Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:30:08 -0400 >From: "CDFupdate CDFupdate" >To: CDFupdate@automailer.com >Subject: CDF Action Alert June 2, 1999 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Sender: owner-cdfupdate@automailer.com >Precedence: bulk > >Children's Defense Fund Action Alert >June 2, 1999 > >************************************************************** >ACT NOW TO IMPACT JUVENILE CRIME LEGISLATION UNDER CONSIDERATION IN THE HOUSE > >On May 20, by a vote of 73-25, the United States Senate >approved juvenile crime legislation, which included a number >of gun safety amendments. The House of Representatives is >expected to consider similar legislation. At this time, it is >unclear what type of gun provisions will be included in the >measure. > >The Speaker of the House, Representative Hastert (R-IL) has >said that he expects the legislation to be voted on by the >House Judiciary Committee during the week of June 8th and >considered by the full House the following week (as early as >June 15th). > >It is imperative that you express your concerns to Congress >about the importance of gun safety provisions to protect >children. Nearly 13 children die from gun violence every day; >a classroom full of children every two days. You can make a >difference by contacting your Representative today as the gun >package is being drafted by the House leadership. > >Please contact the House leadership and your own >Representative to urge them to retain the Senate-passed gun >safety provisions at a minimum and to take several critical >additional steps to make our homes and communities safer. In >particular, please ask them to: > >---Close the gun show loophole so that individuals buying any >gun sold at a gun show are subject to background checks under >the Brady law; > >---Raise the age for legally buying from any source or >possessing a handgun from 18 to 21; > >---Require guns in the home to be stored safely and out of >reach of children - this means strengthening the Senate passed >safety device provision, which is a good first step, but >should be tightened to ensure that it won't be interpreted too >broadly; and > >---Impose a one-gun a month purchase restriction so that >individuals can't intentionally purchase dozens of guns for >the purpose of reselling them to teenagers or convicted >felons. > >This debate is not about the 2nd Amendment; it's about adult >responsibility and keeping our children safe. More children >have died as a result of gun violence since 1979 than the >number of soldiers killed in combat in Vietnam. > >ACTION NEEDED: Call the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121 >and ask to be connected to your Representative in the House. >Once the connection has been made, ask to speak to the staff >responsible for working on gun legislation. If that person is >not there, leave a detailed voice mail message. Leave your >name, address and phone number to reinforce the fact that the >Member is receiving a call from his/her district. If you wish >to send an e-mail letter to your Representative, check out the >Children's Defense Fund Web site, >http://www.childrensdefense.org/takeaction, which has a draft >letter that you may address and send. > >Target Members: All Members will be voting on the gun >package, so it is important that all Members of the House hear >from their constituents. A small group of Members will >actually be writing the gun provisions. Hence, in addition, >CDF urges you to contact the House leadership, particularly if >you are from their districts. > >House leadership on guns: >Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-IL); Majority Leader Richard >Armey (R-TX); Majority Whip Tom DeLay (R-TX); Republican >Conference Chair J.C. Watts (R-OK); Minority Leader Dick >Gephardt (D-MO); Minority Whip David Bonior (D-MI); Democratic >Caucus Chair Martin Frost (D-TX); Judiciary Committee Chairman >Henry Hyde (R-IL); Judiciary Committee Ranking Member John >Conyers (D-MI); Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime Chairman Bill >McCollum (R-FL); Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime Ranking >Member Bobby Scott (D-VA); Rules Committee Chairman David >Dreier (D-CA); Rules Committee Member Deborah Pryce (R-OH); >and Rules Committee Member Sue Myrick (R-NC). > >The list of Members is long, but the House leadership together >with the top members of the House Judiciary Committee, House >Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, and Rules Committee will be >putting together the gun package. They all need to hear from >their constituents that it is time to protect children, not >guns. > >-- OUR STRENGTH IS IN OUR NUMBERS -- >PLEASE FORWARD THIS LEGISLATIVE UPDATE TO YOUR FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES! > >Our typical e-mail is about a page or two long and is >delivered once a week. To join the CDF Update list, sign-up >on our Web site or send an e-mail to: > and write in the body of the >message: subscribe cdfupdate . To >unsubscribe from this list, send an e-mail to >majordomo@automailer.com and write in the body of the message: >unsubscribe cdfupdate . PLEASE NOTE: >WHEN SUBSCRIBING OR UNSUBSCRIBING, DO NOT SURROUND YOUR ADDRESS WITH BRACKETS. > >----------------------------------- >Devanie Candelaria >Children's Defense Fund >25 E Street, NW >Washington, DC 20001 >202/662-3540 (fax) > - -- Tavares@alum.mit.edu http://home.earthlink.net/~cdtavares [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #244 *************************