From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #249 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Saturday, July 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 249 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:13:57 -0500 From: Vance Justice Subject: North Carolina Gun laws I am planning a family trip to North Carolina for hiking and camping, so I would like to get some information regarding handgun carry in that state. My sister-in-law, a resident of NC, told me that carriage of a "concealed weapon" is legal and recommended in the back-country. After some cusory research on the web, it seems to me that open carry is generally legal in NC, but concealed carry is restricted to state residents and requires a permit. Is there anyone out there from North Carolina who can enlighten me regarding the current laws in that state? Thanks in advance, Vance Justice - -- G. Vance Justice, Jr. vjustice@yahoo.com - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:43:09 -0400 From: "Chad Leigh, Pengar Enterprises, Inc. and Shire.Net LLC" Subject: Re: North Carolina Gun laws Hi Does the NRA website have any info? I just did a quick check and the CCW reciprocity for NC said: North Carolina County Sheriff Alaska, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Oklahoma, Utah Chad - --On Wednesday, June 30, 1999, 3:13 PM -0500 Vance Justice wrote: > I am planning a family trip to North Carolina for hiking and camping, > so I would like to get some information regarding handgun carry in > that state. My sister-in-law, a resident of NC, told me that carriage > of a "concealed weapon" is legal and recommended in the back-country. > After some cusory research on the web, it seems to me that open carry > is generally legal in NC, but concealed carry is restricted to state > residents and requires a permit. > > Is there anyone out there from North Carolina who can enlighten me > regarding the current laws in that state? > > Thanks in advance, > Vance Justice > > > -- > G. Vance Justice, Jr. > vjustice@yahoo.com > > - > Pengar Enterprises, Inc. and Shire.Net LLC Web and Macintosh Consulting -- full service web hosting Chad Leigh chad@pengar.com chad@shire.net - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Jul 99 09:57:44 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: FCC Public File Auto-FAQ This "FAQ" is auto-posted once a month via cron triggered script, and may be triggered off by hand from time to time in between if the info is requested by someone, such as when the House recently voted down the AW Ban and the Media threw a hissy fit. The purpose of this FAQ is to inform people what they can do about Media generated lies and misinformation. While the FCC only handles Broadcast Media, (TV and Radio), some of these techniques will work for magazines and newspapers too. If I've missed something, or you find errors, let me know and I'll add/fix it. 1.a. Send letters of complaint to the Station Manager every time it happens with all the time, details, other info, and your complaint(s). 1.b. Send an additional copy for their FCC (Federal Communications Commission) Public file. 1.c. Send an additional copy to the FCC itself, in case they don't put it in their Public file. 2.a. Send a letter of complaint to their Station Owner as per above, with copies as per above (1.b and 1.c). 3. Send copies of their replies to you along with yours to them to their FCC Public file, so that it gets nice and fat, again, with copies to the FCC itself. 4. If you can afford it, send all corespondence by Certified Mail with Return Receipt Requested. Send a copy of the Return Receipt with everything that goes to the FCC itself, so that they will have additional evidence if the Station is cheating on their Public File. 5.a. Go to the Public Library and look up "Standard Rate and Data Services" (SRDS) "Directory of National Advertisers." It is found in many major Libraries (in the business/reference stacks), and lists EVERY current advertiser, who the players are at both the company and advertising agency(s), and the appropriate telephone and fax (and probably E-Mail by now) addresses. If your Library doesn't have it, it can be requested. Otherwise you can watch their commercials for a few days to a week, listing all their advertisers. There are other references that have the addresses for the nation's business headquarters too. look them all up and pass the addresses and phone/FAX numbers etc., around so that everyone can bitch to the sponsors. IF enough people do that, it'll get back to the Station. Tell them if the Station continues their nastiness you'll _consider_ changing to brand(X), (otherwise they'll just write you off as a loss). 5.b. The above, (5.a.), can be a lot easier and less time consuming if you're dealing with a newspaper's or a magazine's ads, as they are right in front of you for the listing. 6. If they put on something good or even just more reasonable, call and compliment them on it, but do _not_ send any kudos to their FCC file, or write to them about it. That way they have to keep it up and hope, as there is nothing good in the file or in writing that they can show the FCC to justify their Station's License. 7. Federal Communications Commission, Complaints and Compliance Division Room 6218, 2025 M Street NW Washington, D.C. 20554 FAX: 202-653-9659 FCC Attn: Edythe Wise - -- An _EFFECTIVE_ | The _only_important_difference_ between Nazi-ism, Fascism, weapon in every | Communism, Communitarianism, Socialism and (Neo-)Liberalism hand = Freedom | is the _spelling_, and that the last group hasn't got the on every side! | Collective brains to figure it out. -- Bill Vance - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:32:18 -0400 (EDT) From: John Curtis Subject: NYC strip searches The BBC was all over this story this morning (7-2-99). It appears that the NYC police have been strip searching all arrestees, even those on misdeamenor charges. This conflicts with a court decision that misdemeanor arrestees are immune from strip searching unless the police have a reasonable belief that they harbor weapons or contraband. 63,000 people strip searched are involved in a class-action suit against the city. The city is acknowledging that these people were illegally searched and some are due compensation. One woman has won a $5 million settlement in a seperate case. The coverage implied, but didn't state exactly, that some of these searches were full cavity searches. regards, jcurtis - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 99 17:27:34 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: S L I C K Year 4, #30 (2/2) (fwd) On Jul 2, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] ECONOMY Most households in the U.S. have a lower net worth than they did in 1983. Between 1983 and 1995, the net worth of the top 1 percent swelled by 17% while the bottom 40 percent of households lost 80 percent; The Environmental Research Foundation puts out an email publication called "Rachel's Environment and Health", which this week focuses on the relationship between health and economic inequality. If you'd like to subscribe (no cost) to this publication, let me know at: grassroots5@juno.com R.S. That defies everything I see in the news, but mirrors what I see around me. MEDIACRATS The mediacrats concern about the gap between the revenue received by George W and Algore is premature. Several precincts from Indonesia, Punjab and Bejing have not yet been reported. LETTER TO THE EDITOR Recd the following in reference to the slander of Thomas Jefferson by Clinton and his mass media co-conspirators. Dear RichSlick, Let's not forget, notwithstanding the bizarre emphasis in reportage on this study, that the DNA tests establish beyond reasonable doubt that the scurrilous political charges made against Jefferson during his first term were utterly false. The single remaining doubt concerning Jefferson's paternity involves Ms. Hemmings's fifth child, who had not yet been conceived, much less born, at the time of the original slanders. Mark E. Slagle AN INTERESTING ITEM Personal Approval. Zogby reported polling on Slick last week. His personal disapproval numbers sunk to a record low 67% unfavorable - which sort of explains why the WH found an extra Trillion dollars just sitting around waiting for him to spend on free drugs for the Greedy Geezers. Limbaugh 6/25. More Interesting Items can be now be found on Rod Martin's (no relation) "Vanguard" at Interesting Items by Alex Gimarc WAR Having lost only one fighter in the Balkan Massacre, 'tis obvious we have no need to manufacture more planes, ie the F-22 or any addl B-2's. We are the master of the skies for the forseeable future (unless, of course, the Clinton Admin snuck a pile of Chinese/Indian/Pakistan spies into Lockheed, Boeing, and Northrup.) Besides, CNN said the cost to the tax payers for that F-117 loss was zero, because it was out of production. Call it our belated Peace Dividend. B-1 BILL The USAF sez it wants to stand down until such time our nation is threatened. The message is: no more military adventures, Bill. USAF news. KATHIE'S KORNER Friends, we have to force them to answer us about the Endangered Species Act. It was a law, and it expired in 1993. Yes, it had many lovers who keep propping it up and trying to pass it off as a living entity, but the thing stinks! I don't mind acknowledging that Congress would reauthorize it if only they could agree on what should be included in it, but how then is it any different from any other bill that might have been passed if it got enough votes? I don't mind acknowledging that Congress keeps on authorizing funding for it, but I DO mind that they do. That's MY money (and yours) and they're spending it on a figment of their imaginations until they act. Why are we letting them get away with it? Pray for America! Reply to: Kathie INDEPENDENCE DAY CELEBRATION CANCELLED Today the Dallas suburb of Carrollton announced it cancelled it's fireworks show, so as not to disturb egrets in the area. (The town was just successfully sued by bird- brains for $70,000, for upsetting the fowl.) April 7th has been declared Egret Independence Day. REMEMBER THE GOOD OLE DAYS... when fathers took their sons out to celebrate July 4th by setting off one-inchers, two inchers, cherry bombs and dago bombs? PEN PALS More Y2K info by Wyse Computer Santa Cruz Operations SCO Y2K Welcome YAHOO YAHOO COMES OUT AGAINST GUN OWNERS. THIS SPACE FOR RENT Reliable Internet Access for only $14.95 a month. Over 550 access numbers in 21 States and growing. Click here for complete info If you have your own web site, you know it's not enough to be on the internet with 30,000,000 geeks. Oh, search engines are great---for the other guy, but wouldn't you prefer to be a little more direct? Instead of trying to reach millions of people who can't spell your name, here's your chance to target thousands of politically active people like yourself. Send e-mail for details to RichSlick. There's more in life than Slick. Well, at least that's what Peggy tells me from time to time. Below is a partial list of web sites maintained by readers of Slick. Check them out, and let me know what you think. PARTING THOUGHT I wonder what would happen if a new special prosecutor was appointed now that the Independent Prosecutor Law has expired? Would it take on a life of its own like the Endangered Species Act? * * * * * Subscribe to this Slick e-zine featuring Kathie's Korner, and receive absolutely free, a copy of Rich's Major Media Mailing List containing over 400 e-mail addresses. To subscribe, send your check for $12.50 to the address at the top of this message. Be sure to include your e-mail address. THE TRUTH IS... A. Powerful. C. In the eye of the beholder. B. Irrelevant. D. All of the above. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 99 17:29:12 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: S L I C K Year 4, #30 (1/2) (fwd) On Jul 2, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] You are encouraged to pass this message on to anyone who might be interested in its contents. Better yet, print a copy for a friend who is not on-line. Any and all comments on the subject matter are always welcome. From the Desk of Rich Martin P O Box 531918 972/263-6631 Grand Prairie, TX 75053 RichSlick@aol.com "Bodily exercise, when compulsory, does no harm to the body; but knowledge which is acquired under compulsion obtains no hold on the mind" Plato, circa 400 BC _______________________________________________ Happy Independence Day, 1999 Iowa and NH have oft been criticized for kicking off the presidential primaries too early. We don't need 2-yr prez campaigns. But as early as they are usually, it looks like first-in-the-nation is too late this time. The mass media has already ordained a Gore v Bush election, with George W winning by a large margin. We know how they got there. Bush has a proven track record of one thing, getting votes from all demographics, including traditional Dem voters, that can spill over to other party candidates. He has a knack of making people find their similarities, instead of their differences. For the first time since the Civil War, Texas has more Republicans in office than Dems. And George W's intangibles are largely responsible. As for Gore, the mystery is even less. While people are criticizing the First Lady for campaigning on the tax payers dime, the veep travelled all-expenses-paid AND collected a salary all last year when his major function was delivering over 200 campaign speeches. He has so many Dem iou's to collect, Iowa and NH are meaningless. The convention votes are all sewed up. No sense to vote in the primaries. A publicly-paid-for political convention that makes no sense to view. How much are they charging US? The days of subsidized campaigns are numbered. How Slick is Slick? Another Clinton lie. There weren't 100,000 Albanians killed by the Serbs any more than there are 100,000 new street cops. If the Serbs were slaughtering the men of Kosovo, as reported, why did they release all those guys we saw paraded on CNN with torture marks all over their backs? If Milosevic was another Hitler, wouldn't they all be with their Allah right now? And if you believe that one, he now sez we've got another trillion dollars to spend. Will that be enough to re-purchase the FICA IOUs they have borrowed? And why does their forecast show the Natl debt climbing every year, despite this "surplus"? If it quacks like a lie... ALGORE TAX Now that we've got another trillion dollars in excess taxes, perhaps Algore will think twice about doubling his hidden tax on telephone usage. Yeah, and donkeys fly. More taxes, sez he. Less cars. More fedl regs. Less freedom. Everything that is Less should be More, and everything that should be More, is Less. MARRIAGE PENALTY TAX One thing is for sure, Congress no longer can say we can't afford to eliminate the Marriage Penalty Tax which penalizes couples thousands of dollars in addl taxes for choosing to get married. (I guess that's what they mean when they say: voluntary tax.) The only reason to maintain the tax is: they want to continue to encourage co-habitation thru the tax code, which explains a lot of the morality deficit we've been experiencing lately, or they want to encourage the only loophole to avoid the tax, d-i-v-o-r-c-e. FIGURES DON'T LIE, BUT LIARS FIGURE How much gall does it take for a Congressman to get in front of a natl network tv camera and say: we can't afford a broad based tax cut when their prez has said he just found another trillion dollars on top of the existing surplus? WHITEWATER LIARS Don't you just get a kick of how CNN flashes pics of the meandering Whitewater River and scrub brush when they talk about Webb Hubbel getting off with no addl jail time? CNN is determined to keep the genl public from finding out that Castle Grande, aka White Water, is an upscale community, and not a wilderness that the Clintons' bought a share of for $1,000. These mediacrats are lying every bit as much as the perjurer in the White House. Their obvious euphoria that Hillary will not be called as a witness and be placed between a rock and a hard place, convinced me they need to pluralize their name, to the Clintons' News Network. POLICE STATE Rep Hyde's bill to end the confiscation of property without due process has cleared the House. But even if the Senate concurs and the bill is signed by the prez, to end this "hidden tax" source, the job still won't be complete. It won't be finished until the govt (city/state/fedl) returns all the property it un-Constitutionally stole from citizens, or at the very least, gave them their day in court. I guess the country can't afford to be fair to them either. REFUGEES As loyal readers know, I pointed out on these pages at the time that the ethnic-Albanians were crossing the border with only the clothes on their back into Macedonia, Albania, etc, they appeared well dressed. Later we found these poor refugees lined up in cars at check-points to return to their homes. It seems they escaped with more than the clothes on their backs afterall. And guess what, their crops are still there too, not burned, as widely reported. DOW JONES The prez cites the over-valued stock market and projected increased tax burden as evidence that the economy is great---his allies in the press dutifully repeat his claims. Are you better off than you were 10 yrs ago? Well I'll tell you, if there's 25-30 year old that isn't better off now than when he was a teenager, he's probably in jail. And if you're 40, and you haven't collected more stuff since your 30th, it's not because the economy has been so great. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Jul 99 22:26:35 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Harris Poll never calls me... (fwd) On Jun 28, Don Loftus wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] So now you can register with them instead. Go to -- http://www.harrispollonline.com/ and go through the registration process and then maybe we can be part of the unsilent majority. Don Loftus Gainesville, FL - --------------------- Political pollsters will use Internet By Richard Benedetto, USA TODAY WASHINGTON - Veteran pollsters Gordon Black and Humphrey Taylor are bringing political polling into the Computer Age. But critics say their cyber-polling isn't representative of the population . Black and Taylor plan to use the Internet instead of the telephone to conduct polls on the 2000 elections. They say that with larger samples and instantaneous communication and tabulation, results can be faster, cheaper and more accurate. "We think we can outperform telephone polls in terms of scope, accuracy and the amount of information," Black says. Plans announced Wednesday by the two top executives of Harris Black International call for taking periodic measures of races for president, governor, Senate and as many as 100 congressional districts where the contests are competitive. Their Internet samples are recruited by advertising for volunteers on various Web sites. When a poll is to be taken, volunteers are e-mailed a questionnaire that they complete and return. Black says his company has 3.6 million volunteers in its database, which is expected to grow to 10 million-15 million by the end of the year. Harris Black is rated by Inside Research as the nation's second-fastest growing market research firm . The company believes its election polls via the Internet will be just as good as or better than polls conducted via telephone for news organizations, candidates, political parties and interest groups. To make the case, Taylor outlined results of a Harris Black poll taken over the Internet last week. It shows Texas Republican Gov. George W. Bush beating Democratic Vice President Gore by 20 percentage points if the 2000 presidential race were held at the time of the poll. That finding is not much different from independent telephone polls this month that show Bush ahead of Gore by 14- 18 percentage points. But CBS News polling director Kathy Frankovich says, "It's not a question of guessing right, it's a question of who you are sampling and whether it's representative of the population as a whole." The key argument against Internet polling is that telephones are found in 92% of American households, but only 48% of households are connected to the Internet. Critics say it's impossible to get a representative sample of the electorate when more than half of potential voters have no chance of participating. "For a sample to be representative, all members of the population you want to poll have to have an equal probability of falling into the sample," says Frank Newport, editor in chief of the Gallup Poll, which polls for USA TODAY by telephone. Similar arguments were made in the 1960s against shifting to telephone polling from face-to-face interviews. But when telephone use approached 90% of homes in the 1970s, the resistance disappeared. Black and Taylor say they can adjust for that gap by assigning weights to various groups polled and making them conform to general electorate characteristics. For example, if the Internet poll sample contained only 7% blacks, although blacks are 14% of the electorate, black responses would be given double weighting. That technique is widely used in telephone polling now. But Newport notes that with Internet users still a minority of the population, weighting techniques would have to be applied much more heavily, increasing the chance that results would be wrong. Warren Mitofsky, a pioneer in exit polling - sampling voters at polling places on Election Day - opposes Internet polling . "People recruited into (Internet) panels are self-selected, with characteristics that differ from the population," Mitofsky writes in the June/July issue of Public Perspective magazine to be released next week. "People on the Internet do not represent the adult population of the country. Internet panelists (by virtue of their voluntary status) do not even represent people on the Internet." [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 99 10:31:58 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fw: Thoughts for this weekend (fwd) On Jul 3, Kevin McGehee wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] - ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Riddle To: Multiple recipients of list Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 4:59 AM Subject: Thoughts for this weekend IN CONGRESS, July 4th, 1776 A DECLARATION By the REPRESENTATIVES of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, In GENERAL CONGRESS assembled. When in the course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the causes that impel them to the Separation. We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness - That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in such Form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient Sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The History of the present King of Great- Britain is a History of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World. He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public Good. He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing Importance, unless suspended in their Operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other Laws for the Accommodations of large Districts of People, unless those People would relinquish the Right of Representation in the Legislature, a Right inestimable to them, and formidable to Tyrants only. He has called together Legislative Bodies at Places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the Depository of their Public Records, for the sole Purpose of fatiguing them into Compliance with his Measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly Firmness his Invasions on the Rights of the People. He has refused for a long Time, after such Dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the meantime exposed to all the Dangers of Invasion from without, and Convulsions within. He has endeavored to prevent the Population of these States; for that Purpose obstructing the Laws of Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their Migrations hither, and raising the Conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers. He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the Tenure of their Offices, and the Amount and payment of their Salaries. He has erected a Multitude of new Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harass our People, and eat out their Substance. He has kept among us, in Times of Peace, Standing Armies, without the consent our Legislatures. He has affected to render the Military independent of, and superior to the Civil Power. He has combined with others to subject us to a Jurisdiction foreign to our Constitution, and unacknowledged by our Laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: For quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us: For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: For cutting off our Trade with all Parts of the World: For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: For depriving us, in many Cases, of the Benefits of Trial by Jury: For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended Offences: For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an arbitrary Government, and enlarging its Boundaries, so as to render it at once an Example and fit Instrument for introducing the same absolute Rule into these Colonies: For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all Cases whatsoever. He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us. He has plundered our Seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the Lives of our People. He is, at this Time, transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of Death, Desolation, and Tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and Perfidy, scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous Ages, and totally unworthy of the Head of a civilized Nation. He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the Executioners of their Friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands. He has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions. In every stage of these Oppressions we have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble Terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated Injury. A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the Ruler of a free People. Nor have we been wanting in Attentions to our Brittish Brethren. We have warned them from Time to Time of Attempts by their Legislature to extend an unwarrantable Jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the Circumstances of our Emigration and Settlement here. We have appealed to their native Justice and Magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the Ties of our common Kindred to disavow these Usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our Connections and Correspondence. They too have been deaf to the Voice of Justice and of Consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the Necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of Mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace, Friends. We, therefore, the Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly Publish and Declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, Free and Independent States; that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political Connection between them and the State of Great-Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor. JOHN HANCOCK, President Attest. CHARLES THOMSON, Secretary. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Jul 99 10:34:35 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fw: NFRA (1/2) (fwd) On Jul 3, Kevin McGehee wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] - ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Williams To: David L. Williams Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 11:36 PM Subject: NFRA July 2, 1999 Dear NFRA Friends and Supporters: 1. More and more, the courts are recognizing that education is for the benefit of students, not government or unions. In this case, a court ruled that children who attend private religious schools have the same right to subsidized Internet service as those who attend government schools. The purpose of the service is education, regardless of where the chair for the student is located. On the other hand, is it the role of government to use tax dollars from businesses and families to provide this service? What is the role of education? Personally I oppose "public" education. I do support education of the public. Who cares what the venue is, as long as it is student oriented? To me, by definition, unionized education is a failure, since union rules and non education concerns control schools. For Religious Schools, a Victory on Money for Net Access A federal judge has ruled that a state program in Wisconsin that subsidizes Internet access at schools, including religious schools, is constitutional and does not violate the First Amendment's provision for separation of church and state. The opinion, issued by Judge John C. Shabaz of the United States District Court for the Western District of Wisconsin in Madison, came in what is arguably the first case to consider the extent to which the government may help religious schools in their efforts to give their students access to the Internet. (The New York Times -- Free registration required -- -- Read the story.) 2. Gayle Gardner, of the Hawaii Republican Assembly has sent this article to me. Again, there is a reason we celebrate the Fourth of July. What We Should Celebrate This Independence Day By Ben Boychuk {Will appear in Investor's Business Daily} Ask 10 average Americans where the phrase "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" appears, and seven of them couldn't tell you. But as we celebrate 223 years of independence, it's worth asking why, and what can be done about that. America more than any other nation is based on an idea. We aren't racially, ethnically, religiously or geographically defined like other nations. Rather, America was born and lives in the tradition of liberty and law. And no words in the English language better express the American project than the Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." Americans must learn these truths if we are to excel as a nation and a people. Yet few Americans know the words. For many they are a distant echo of the past barely heard and dimly understood . But some courageous state lawmakers are fighting to restore America's founding principles by reaching out to the next generation. Unfortunately, they are meeting fierce political opposition. Take New Jersey. State Assemblyman Michael Patrick Carroll, a Republican, sponsored a bill that would require public school students there to recite those sentences from the Declaration, along with the Pledge of Allegiance. Why? Carroll worries that kids don't have a good sense of why America is special. "The language of this little passage . . . sets forth in one little paragraph the entire basis for the American government," he explained. The bill passed the assembly but now languishes in the state senate. The reason: Garden State liberals object to words like "men," "Creator," and "right to life." They say the men who founded the country are bad role models for kids, and that their ideas are old hat. Typical is the claim of Assemblywoman Nia Gill, who said that "at the time these words were written only white men, and only white men with property, were perceived to be the beneficiaries of these words." This is absurd and false. In New Jersey, for instance, women -- and even blacks - were voting by the late 1700s. But Gill's view is the conventional wisdom. And New Jersey isn't the only state where this sort of battle is being fought. In California, a '96 law requires high school students to read the Declaration, the Constitution and other important founding-era documents. Again, Democrats hammered the bill. One assemblyman said it "contradicts freedom (and) by its nature is calculated to teach fascism, not democracy." Nevada State Sen. Mark James authored a similar bill after visiting schools in his Las Vegas district. He found that most of the students couldn't answer the simplest questions on a U.S. citizenship test. James's bill also passed, but only after a contentious 2-1/2 hour debate -- longer than any legislative debate in recent memory. Why are the words and ideals of the Declaration so hated? Carroll thinks it's because liberals see America as "an ongoing horror show" of racist and sexist oppression. That may be part of it. A better explanation may be that the principles of liberty and equality the founders enshrined in the Declaration stand in direct opposition to the modern liberal agenda. The Founders were clear: Human beings are born with rights, which come before government. The role of government is limited to protecting those rights, not making up new ones, such as Franklin Roosevelt's "freedom from fear." Seen that way, it's easy to understand why so many liberal politicians oppose teaching these ideas to children. They may actually grow up believing in limited government, equality under the law, and no taxation without representation. The Declaration sets forth a truth - "applicable to all men and all times," in Lincoln's words -- that stands in the way of tyranny. It also sets a standard of freedom and equality. Americans haven't always met that standard. But it is the standard every American must learn and know if we wish to remain a free people. It is the standard we ought to honor and celebrate this Independence Day. Ben Boychuk is Director of Publications at The Claremont Institute. 3. The theft of money from families by tax and regulation policy is the worst form of anti-family values an elected official can exhibit. The higher the taxes, the lower the freedom for families and business. Money does equal freedom. Do you want to send your children to private school? You don't have the funds. Do you want to teach your children at home, yourself? You need a two income household just to survive. Does a business want to grow? It can't because of the regulations, reports and audits by government at all levels. Why are home based businesses growing so rapidly, because of less government regulation. Don MacDonald of New Jersey sent me this review of an interview this morning with Lawrence Kudlow, former economic advisor to President Reagan. He, along with Steve Forbes, gave Christine Todd Whitman the idea that if you cut taxes by 30% in New Jersey, you will win and have a healthy economy. 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