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roc-digest Saturday, September 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 278
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Date: Sun, 5 Sep 99 09:43:27 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: Waco Smokescreen (fwd)
I don't know about this, but it's certainly worth a check up by those
concerned.....
On Sep 05, Don Cline wrote:
[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------]
Goodyear, Arizona (near Phoenix)
As significant as the Waco revelations may be, Chris Stark has raised the
question of why now? Why not a year and a half ago, when the information
first (allegedly) became available? He ties it, tentatively, to the
candidacy of George W. Bush, Jr.
I consider it far more likely that it is a smokescreen to distract the
media from what may be the biggest story of all: It appears the Internal
Revenue Service is "down".
So far I have about a quarter-ton of anecdotal evidence to indicate the IRS
computers are either down across the board or, alternatively, they have
simply lost access to their taxpayer database. The latest indication
arrived yesterday in the form of a typewritten letter on blank paper (no
IRS letterhead; no standard IRS computer format) advising me (without going
into details) that "It will take us about three weeks to retrieve (the
information you request) together with any audit reports."
This is the third manually-typed letter I have received from the IRS in the
last month.
The information I requested should be staring them in the face from their
computer screen. It _was_ staring them in the face from their computer
screen, along with several other pieces of information they still haven't
picked up, prior to July 1st, which was the beginning of their fiscal year
2000. Since July 1st, they have claimed to have no record of it -- I had
to provide them with copies. And now they want three weeks to retrieve the
information I just gave them.
The anecdotal evidence does not derive entirely from _my_ interaction with
the IRS. Ever heard of the IRS returning a check to a known "tax
protester"? It has now happened to an individual in New Mexico, with the
comment that the IRS "has no record" of any tax liability involving that
individual.
Numerous contacts with the IRS by other people with whom I am in
communication have resulted in what amounts to pure-dee "stonewalling".
The IRS has no information about someone; the taxpayer has to provide the
information the IRS should have already had, and then the IRS comes back
with a dismissive answer designed to keep the taxpayer on hold for another
three-four weeks. This appears to be a holding operation, as though the
IRS is waiting for some other element to position itself, as though "when
TSHTF what we do here won't matter any more".
The Department of Justice may also be "down", or otherwise distracted: My
lawsuit against the IRS had a hard deadline for the Department of Justice
last Thursday. They failed to meet it. They failed to call me and request
an extension. I haven't heard from them.
The IRS being down, if it is down, is a you-bet National Security Issue. I
figure the "STUFF" is going to hit the FAN sometime within the next 30
seconds to 30 days. WACO is being used as nothing but a temporary
distraction, in my view, to keep us from paying attention.
Keep your powder dry.
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Don Cline
Homepage: http://www.mindspring.com/~frdmftr
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The Right to Keep and Bear Arms brought about
The Parliamentary Revolution
The Magna Carta
The American Revolution
The world's first and only nation of liberty.
Without it you are naught but a feudal serf.
EXERCISE your Right to Keep and Bear Arms or
KNEEL BEFORE YOUR MASTER.
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RKBA!
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An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Date: Wed, 8 Sep 99 20:16:00 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: RAPTUS: The green commandos (fwd)
On Sep 8, FrizBMG@aol.com wrote:
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WEDNESDAY
SEPTEMBER 08 1999
Joseph Farah is editor of WorldNetDaily.com and executive director of the
Western Journalism Center, an independent group of investigative reporters.
The green commandos
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In March, 40 officers divided into 10 four-man teams swooped in with
helicopters in a pre-dawn raid to seize six suspects in Dorchester County,
Md.
The principal suspect, Robert Gootee, was hauled from his bed and led away
in chains. His wife was not allowed to call anyone, nor were her neighbors
allowed to come in to comfort her, for four and a half hours.
What was the offense that precipitated this action? Was the four-year
investigation that led to the armed raid concerned with terrorism, serial
homicide or a major drug ring? What type of criminal offenses were involved?
Who were these brave law-enforcement agents who defied death to make the
arrests?
You had better sit down.
Gootee was charged with possession of an undersized striped bass, striped
bass out of season, untagged striped bass, possession of summer flounder
out of season, failure to tag and check deer within 24 hours and possession
of a loaded weapon in a vehicle. The agents involved were from the state
and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. And the target for the raid was the
Golden Hills Hunt Club.
Gootee, the club treasurer, was hauled away with such "evidence" as deer and
duck mounts and a framed photograph of his retriever bringing in a duck.
Eventually, 24 other club members were charged with related offenses,
including failure to wear sufficient fluorescent orange while hunting.
We're in serious trouble, folks.
Even as more Americans wake up to the reality of the dangers posed by the
gun-toting federales who brought us Waco, a new breed of armed-and-dangerous
green commandos is turning our forests into police states.
Check out a report in this month's issue of usually low-key Field & Stream
Magazine: "Looking for firepower, firefights and other fun stuff? Forget the
SEALs; Fish and Game is the place to be."
"Wardens may be watching too many cop shows. How else can one explain why
increasing numbers of them seem to reject their workday reality and the
routine of dealing with essentially law-abiding people in favor of a world
in which the everyday sportsman is an ex-army commando ready for a shoot-out
or a high-speed car chase?"
The story continues: "Recruits to wildlife law enforcement now spend more
time learning how to break down the doors of alleged poachers than how to
differentiate the various species of sunfishes. The April 1999 issue of
Wildlife in North Carolina describes the boot camp that would-be officers go
through in that state: 'Relentless physical exercise, material training and
plenty of barracks inspections are the norm for the first two weeks of
wildlife recruit school ... this includes 40 hours of firearms training as
well as many hours mastering defensive tactics to disarm suspects.'"
The piece goes on to explain that the rationale used by many agencies for
such official militancy is a claim that game wardens are "seven times more
likely to be killed during an assault on the job than any other type of law
officer." Trouble with that statistic is that there is no basis for it in
fact.
According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, in 1997, 65 law
enforcement officers of all kinds nationwide were killed in the line of
duty. Not one was a warden. Whoops!
There seems to be an active effort by government to portray hunters and
other sportsmen as dangerous hombres -- all potential killers. That was the
picture painted by some involved in the planning of the Maryland raid.
Richard McIntire, spokesman for the state's Department of Natural Resources,
explained: "We were dealing with people who are known to have weapons," he
said, "and who are proficient in their use."
Yeah, so? America is a land free precisely because the people have
historically been armed and self-trained in how to use firearms. The
Constitution not only protects the rights of individual Americans to bear
arms, it actually suggests -- and, I believe, accurately -- that it is akin
to a sacred duty for citizens to be armed and vigilant.
Of course, the picture of the woods as territory occupied by armed
anti-government militiamen and dangerous scofflaws doesn't hurt one bit when
it comes time to convince legislators that the green cops need more money
for training, weapons and manpower. (Remember, the initial assault on Waco
was a public relations dog-and-pony show designed to persuade Congress the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms needed more funds.)
It's not surprising, then, that after the raid in Maryland some American
flags in Dorchester County were flying upside down. Not surprising and not
unwarranted.
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A daily radio broadcast adaptation of Joseph Farah's commentaries can be
heard at http://www.ktkz.com/
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RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA!
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An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 99 20:12:17 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: New Book
There's a new book out called, "The Cloning Of The American Mind". I think
they said the Authors name was Bev Ekman, but I was in and out of there when
they were talking about it. It's about why we're losing the Culture War,
and what to do about it. What little I heard of the interview was good.
Check it out.
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RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA!
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An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 99 22:41:55 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: [slickplus] SLICK recd from Alan Keyes (fwd)
On Sep 10, RichSlick@aol.com wrote:
[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------]
From the Desk of Rich Martin
P O Box 531918 972/263-6631
Grand Prairie, TX 75053 RichSlick@aol.com
_______________________________________________
FORWARDED
Some time ago, I tried to enunciate in a 13-part series entitled "Why We
Will Fight" the bases for our resistance to the impending tyranny the
Clintonistas and their friends seem to intend for us. Since then, in a
number of other letters and essays I've tried to enunciate why the Second
Amendment is the lynchpin of our liberty. Taken all together, I never
came close to accomplishing that task as Dr. Keyes has in this short but
brilliant piece below. He is truly our Thomas Paine. My sincere thanks
to Arlin Adams for forwarding it to me. -- Mike Vanderboegh, 1 ACR
The Armed Defense of Liberty
By Dr. Alan Keyes
Despite the heroic efforts of Sen. Bob Smith to turn it back,
the latest batch of irrational and servile restrictions on the Second
Amendment continues to ooze its way through that allegedly deliberative
institution, the Congress. Perhaps because the gun control debate is now
so entirely drenched in the emotive sludge that is the
principal intellectual food of our political establishment, this seems a
good moment to recall the deep reasons, the fundamental context, that
must inform any responsible deliberations on the question of an armed
citizenry.
I believe that underlying all of the prominent issues of the
day -- abortion, the breakdown of the family and of our educational
institutions, the betrayal of our national sovereignty and military
readiness, and the ongoing expansion of government's tyrannical claims to
tax and regulate -- we can discern what is essentially one moral
challenge which manifests itself in many areas. Simply stated, that
challenge has to do with the corruption of our understanding of freedom,
which leads to the abandonment of respect for law and individual
responsibility, the twin pillars which ought to under-gird true freedom.
As a free people, our way of life depends upon certain moral
ideas. As a matter of personal conscience, I believe that Christianity
most perfectly embodies those ideas. But since Americans come from many
different religious backgrounds, in dealing with issues of public policy,
we must derive these ideas from sources that are open to support from all
the people.
Nothing meets this purpose more completely than the
principles and logic of our own Declaration of Independence, so American
citizens and statesmen should make it the explicit basis for dealing with
the moral crisis we now face.
The Declaration is fundamentally a statement of the
principles of justice that define the moral identity of the American
people. It presents a certain concept of our human nature and draws out
the political consequences of that concept.
All human beings are created equal. They need no title or
qualification beyond their simple humanity in order to command respect
for their intrinsic human dignity, their "unalienable rights."
The purpose of government is to secure these rights, and no
government is just or legitimate if it systematically violates them.
But the Declaration is more than just an assertion of rights.
It also makes a clear statement about the ultimate source of authority
which commands respect for those rights. God, the Creator, the author of
the laws of nature, is that source.
Thus the effective prerequisite for human rights is respect
for God's authority and His eternal laws. This is also the prerequisite
for the idea of government based upon consent, which includes free
elections, representation, due process of law, etc.
If we accept the logic of our Declaration of Independence,
this reverence for God is not just a matter of religious faith. It is the
foundation of justice and citizenship in our republic.
Therefore, our freedom is derived from our respect for law,
especially the highest law as embodied in the will of the Creator. Thus
freedom, rightly understood, cannot be confused with mere licentiousness.
It first of all involves the duty to respect its own foundations in the
laws of nature and nature's God. That's why our rights are "unalienable,"
which means that we do not have the right to surrender or destroy them by
our choice or actions.
Indeed, if we make the judgment that our rights are being
systematically violated, we have the duty to resist and overthrow the
power responsible. This duty involves both the judgment and the moral and
material capacity to resist tyranny. These principles constitute our
character as a free people, which it is our duty to maintain.
It is in the context of these principles that we must
understand the purpose of the Second Amendment, and the duties that it
implies. The Founders added the Second Amendment to the Constitution so
that when, after a long train of abuses, a government evinces a
methodical design upon our natural rights, we will have the means to
protect and recover those rights.
If we make the judgment that our rights are being
systematically violated, we have not merely the right, but the duty, to
resist and overthrow the power responsible. It is very hard to do this if
the government has all the weapons, something that our Founders and the
generations before and after them knew from repeated and
first-hand experience, as well as from a study of history. A strong case
can be made, therefore, that it is a fundamental DUTY of the free citizen
to keep and bear arms.
The claim that the Second Amendment is principally concerned
with the maintenance of state militias -- military bodies under the
direction and control of state governments -- is not just historically
false, it is also fundamentally incoherent. It would make no sense
whatsoever to restrict the right to keep and bear arms to state
governments, since the principle on which our polity is based, as stated
in the Declaration, recognizes that any government, at any level, can
become oppressive of our rights. And we must be prepared to defend
ourselves against its abuses. The gun control movement is incompatible
with the sovereignty of the people, because it aims to eliminate one of
the key material supports of that sovereignty.
This is not the principal danger of the gun control movement,
however. Perhaps more important than the physical disarmament the
government is attempting is the moral disarmament that accompanies it. If
we accept the view that the American people cannot be trusted with the
material objects necessary to defend their liberty, we will surely accept
as well the view that the American people cannot be
trusted with liberty itself. Why should a man who can't be trusted to
refrain from murder be trusted with the much more difficult and morally
subtle task of choosing his leaders responsibly?
The advocates of gun control take as their first principle
that the American people are morally incompetent creatures of passion.
The America they envision for us is, accordingly, more like a national
24-hour day-care center than a self-governing republic of free men and
women. If we agree to accept this apparently comfortable arrangement, we
will have to check our citizenship at the door along with our guns.
If, on the other hand, we intend to exercise the duties of
self-government and justice that are our patrimony as free and rational
creatures, then we will need to think clearly and coherently about
securing the means necessary to do so. We must defend the moral
self-confidence of America by reasserting the capacity of our people
to make the most important decisions and bear the most important
responsibilities themselves. And we must retain the material means
necessary to shoot the windows out of the national day-care center, if it
comes to that.
Second Amendment rights are sacred because of their
connection to higher rights and higher duties, which are the very
substance of liberty and justice, and to the God that America has always
acknowledged as the source of both. We cannot surrender our guns without
surrendering the vision of human dignity under God which is our national
soul. The slow erosion of our national understanding of this fact is
continuing in the Congress. Only a citizenry armed with a clear
understanding of what is at stake can ultimately save us from the civic
imbecility to which the gun control movement leads. By disarming, we will
confess to our government that we no longer aspire to sovereignty, and
wish our rulers to take up this burden in our stead. We will be signaling
with great clarity that we wish to be comfortable slaves --
and slaves, at least, we will soon become.
The terrible history of the 20th century should make clear
enough that subjection to unlimited government is not desirable. But a
clear and thoughtful examination of our national principles teaches us
also that it is our duty to shun such servitude. It is our right, and it
is our duty, to remain free.
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RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA!
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An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 03:20:11 -0700
From: skip
Subject: Re: [slickplus] SLICK recd from Alan Keyes (fwd)
Bill Vance wrote:
>
> On Sep 10, RichSlick@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> From the Desk of Rich Martin
>
> P O Box 531918 972/263-6631
> Grand Prairie, TX 75053 RichSlick@aol.com
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> FORWARDED
>
> Some time ago, I tried to enunciate in a 13-part series entitled "Why We
> Will Fight" the bases for our resistance to the impending tyranny the
> Clintonistas and their friends seem to intend for us. Since then, in a
> number of other letters and essays I've tried to enunciate why the Second
> Amendment is the lynchpin of our liberty. Taken all together, I never
> came close to accomplishing that task as Dr. Keyes has in this short but
> brilliant piece below. He is truly our Thomas Paine. My sincere thanks
> to Arlin Adams for forwarding it to me. -- Mike Vanderboegh, 1 ACR
>
I agree that Alan Keyes does it well, although IMO, a bit too
religiously
and intellectually for general consumption and broad effectiveness.
Hopefully you recall Charleton Heston's earlier explanation, but if
not, a copy follows. It also hits the nail on the head.
Regards, Skip.
> Why We Have Guns
>
> By Charlton Heston
> Address delivered at the National Press Club, September 11, 1997
>
> Today I want to talk to you about guns: Why we have them, why the
> Bill of Rights guarantees that we can have them, and why my right to
> have a gun is more important than your right to rail against it in the
> press.
>
> I believe every good journalist needs to know why the Second
> Amendment must be considered more essential than the First Amendment.
> This may be a bitter pill to swallow, but the right to keep and bear
> arms is not archaic. It's not an outdated, dusty idea some old dead white
> guys dreamed up in fear of the Redcoats. No, it is just as essential
> to liberty today as it was in 1776. These words may not play well at
> the Press Club, but it's still the gospel down at the corner bar and
> grill.
>
> And your efforts to undermine the Second Amendment, to deride it
> and degrade it, to readily accept diluting it and eagerly promote
> redefining it, threaten not only the physical well-being of
> millions of Americans but also the core concept of individual liberty our
> founding fathers struggled to perfect and protect.
>
> So now you know what doubtless does not surprise you. I believe
> strongly in the right of every law-abiding citizen to keep and
> bear arms, for what I think are good reasons.
>
> The original amendments we refer to as the Bill of Rights contain
> ten of what the constitutional framers termed unalienable rights.
> These rights are ranked in random order and are linked by their
> essential equality. The Bill of Rights came to us with blinders on. It
> doesn't recognize color, or class, or wealth. It protects not just the
> rights of actors, or editors, or reporters, but extends even to those we
> love to hate.
>
> That's why the most heinous criminals have rights until they are
> convicted of a crime. The beauty of the Constitution can be found
> in the way it takes human nature into consideration. We are not a
> docile species capable of co-existing within a perfect society under
> everlasting benevolent rule. We are what we are. Egotistical,
> corruptible, vengeful, sometimes even a bit power mad. The Bill
> of Rights recognizes this and builds the barricades that need to be
> in place to protect the individual.
>
> You, of course, remain zealous in your belief that a free nation
> must have a free press and free speech to battle injustice, unmask
> corruption and provide a voice for those in need of a fair and
> impartial forum.
>
> I agree wholeheartedly ... a free press is vital to a free society.
>
> But I wonder: How many of you will agree with me that the right
> to keep and bear arms is not just equally vital, but the most vital
> to protect all the other rights we enjoy?
>
> I say that the Second Amendment is, in order of importance, the
> first amendment. It is America's First Freedom, the one right that
> protects all the others. Among freedom of speech, of the press, of
> religion, of assembly, of redress of grievances, it is the first
> among equals. It alone offers the absolute capacity to live without
> fear. The right to keep and bear arms is the one right that allows
> "rights" to exist at all.
>
> Either you believe that, or you don't, and you must decide.
>
> Because there is no such thing as a free nation where police and
> military are allowed the force of arms but individual citizens
> are not. That's a "big brother knows best" theater of the absurd that
> has never boded well for the peasant class, the working class, or even
> for reporters.
>
> Yes, our Constitution provides the doorway for your news and
> commentary to pass through free and unfettered. But that doorway
> to freedom is framed by the muskets that stood between a vision of
> liberty and absolute anarchy at a place called Concord Bridge.
> Our revolution began when the British sent Redcoats door to door to
> confiscate the people's guns. They didn't succeed: The muskets
> went out the back door with their owners.
>
> Emerson said it best:
>
> "By the rude bridge that arched the flood, Their flag to April's
> breeze unfurled, Here once the embattled farmers stood, And fired
> the shot heard round the world."
>
> King George called us "rabble in arms." But with God's grace,
> George Washington and many brave men gave us our country. Soon after,
> God's grace and a few great men gave us our Constitution. It's been
> said that the creation of the United States is the greatest political
> act in history. I'll sign that.
>
> In the next two centuries, though, freedom did not flourish. The
> next revolution, the French, collapsed in the bloody Terror, then
> Napoleon's tyranny. There's been no shortage of dictators since,
> in many countries. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, Idi Amin, Castro,
> Pol Pot. All these monsters began by confiscating private arms, then
> literally soaking the earth with the blood of tens and tens of
> millions of their people. Ah, the joys of gun control.
>
> Now, I doubt any of you would prefer a rolled up newspaper as a
> weapon against a dictator or a criminal intruder. Yet in essence that is
> what you have asked our loved ones to do, through an ill-contrived and
> totally naive campaign against the Second Amendment.
>
> Besides, how can we entrust to you the Second Amendment, when you
> are so stingy with your own First Amendment?
>
> I say this because of the way, in recent days, you have treated
> your own -- those journalists you consider the least among you. How
> quick you've been to finger the paparazzi with blame and to eye the
> tabloids with disdain. How eager you've been to draw a line where
> there is none, to demand some distinction within the First Amendment
> that sneers "they are not one of us." How readily you let your lesser
> brethren take the fall, as if their rights were not as worthy,
> and their purpose not as pure, and their freedom not as sacred as
> yours.
>
> So now, as politicians consider new laws to shackle and gag
> paparazzi who among you will speak up? Who here will stand and
> defend them? If you won't, I will. Because you do not define the
> First Amendment. It defines you. And it is bigger than you -- big
> enough to embrace all of you, plus all those you would exclude.
> That's how freedom works.
>
> It also demands you do your homework. Again and again I hear gun
> owners say, how can we believe anything the anti-gun media says
> when they can't even get the facts right? For too long you have
> swallowed manufactured statistics and fabricated technical support
> from anti-gun organizations that wouldn't know a semiauto from a
> sharp stick. And it shows. You fall for it every time.
>
> That's why you have very little credibility among 70 million gun
> owners and 20 million hunters and millions of veterans who learned
> the hard way which end the bullet comes out. And while you attacked
> the amendment that defends your homes and protects your spouses and
> children, you have denied those of us who defend all the Bill of
> Rights a fair hearing or the courtesy of an honest debate.
>
> If the NRA attempts to challenge your assertions, we are ignored.
> And if we try to buy advertising time or space to answer your charges,
> more often than not we are denied. How's that for First Amendment
> freedom?
>
> Clearly, too many have used freedom of the press as a weapon not
> only to strangle our free speech, but to erode and ultimately destroy
> the right to keep and bear arms as well. In doing so you promoted
> your profession to that of constitutional judge and jury, more
> powerful even than our Supreme Court, more prejudiced than the
> Inquisition's tribunals. It is a frightening misuse of constitutional
> privilege, and I pray that you will come to your senses and see that
> these abuses are curbed.
>
> As a veteran of World War II, as a freedom marcher who stood with
> Dr Martin Luther King long before it was fashionable, and as a
> grandfather who wants the coming century to be free and full of
> promise for my grandchildren, I am ... troubled.
>
> The right to keep and bear arms is threatened by political
> theatrics, piecemeal lawmaking, talk show psychology, extreme bad
> taste in the entertainment industry, an ever-widening educational
> chasm in our schools and a conniving media, that all add up to cultural
> warfare against the idea that guns ever had, or should now have, an
> honorable and proud place in our society.
>
> But all of our rights must be delivered into the 21st century as
> pure and complete as they came to us at the beginning of this century.
> Traditionally the passing of that torch is from a gnarled old
> hand down to an eager young one. So now, at 72, I offer my gnarled old
> hand.
>
> I have accepted a call from the National Rifle Association of
> America to help protect the Second Amendment. I feel it is my duty to do
> that. My mission and vision can be summarized in three simple parts.
>
> First, before we enter the next century, I expect to see a pro-
> Second Amendment president in the White House.
>
> Secondly, I expect to build an NRA with the political muscle and
> clout to keep a pro-Second Amendment Congress in place.
>
> Third, is a promise to the next generation of free Americans. I
> hope to help raise a hundred million dollars for NRA programs and
> education before the year 2000. At least half of that sum will go
> to teach American kids what the right to keep and bear arms really
> means to their culture and country.
>
> We have raised a generation of young people who think that the
> Bill of Rights comes with their cable TV. Leave them to their channel
> surfing and they'll remain oblivious to history and heritage that truly
> matter.
>
> Think about it -- what else must young Americans think when the
> White House proclaims, as it did, that "a firearm in the hands of youth
> is a crime or an accident waiting to happen"? No -- it is time they
> learned that firearm ownership is constitutional, not criminal. In fact,
> few pursuits can teach a young person more about responsibility,
> safety, conservation, their history and their heritage, all at once.
>
> It is time they found out that the politically correct doctrine
> of today has misled them. And that when they reach legal age, if they
> do not break our laws, they have a right to choose to own a gun -- a
> handgun, a long gun, a small gun, a large gun, a black gun, a
> purple gun, a pretty gun, an ugly gun -- and to use that gun to defend
> themselves and their loved ones or to engage in any lawful
> purpose they desire without apology or explanation to anyone, ever.
>
> This is their first freedom. If you say it's outdated, then you
> haven't read your own headlines. If you say guns create only
> carnage, I would answer that you know better. Declining morals,
> disintegrating families, vacillating political leadership, an eroding
> criminal justice system and social mores that blur right and wrong
> are more to blame -- certainly more than any legally owned firearm.
>
> I want to rescue the Second Amendment from an opportunistic
> president, and from a press that apparently can't comprehend that
> attacks on the Second Amendment set the stage for assaults on the First.
>
> I want to save the Second Amendment from all these nitpicking
> little wars of attrition -- fights over alleged Saturday night specials,
> plastic guns, cop killer bullets and so many other made-for-prime-
> time non-issues invented by some press agent over at gun control
> headquarters that you guys buy time and again.
>
> I simply cannot stand by and watch a right guaranteed by the
> Constitution of the United States come under attack from those
> who either can't understand it, don't like the sound of it, or find
> themselves too philosophically squeamish to see why it remains
> the first among equals: Because it is the right we turn to when all
> else fails.
>
> That's why the Second Amendment is America's first freedom.
>
> Please, go forth and tell the truth. There can be no free speech,
> no freedom of the press, no freedom to protest, no freedom to
> worship your god, no freedom to speak your mind, no freedom from fear, no
> freedom for your children and for theirs, for anybody, anywhere,
> without the Second Amendment freedom to fight for it.
>
> If you don't believe me, just turn on the news tonight.
> Civilization's veneer is wearing thinner all the time.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Copyright 1997 by Charlton Heston.
>
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Date: Sat, 11 Sep 99 10:26:03 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: Re: [slickplus] SLICK recd from Alan Keyes (fwd)
On Sep 11, skip wrote:
>Bill Vance wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 10, RichSlick@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> From the Desk of Rich Martin
>>
>> P O Box 531918 972/263-6631
>> Grand Prairie, TX 75053 RichSlick@aol.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> FORWARDED
>>
>> Some time ago, I tried to enunciate in a 13-part series entitled "Why We
>> Will Fight" the bases for our resistance to the impending tyranny the
>> Clintonistas and their friends seem to intend for us. Since then, in a
>> number of other letters and essays I've tried to enunciate why the Second
>> Amendment is the lynchpin of our liberty. Taken all together, I never
>> came close to accomplishing that task as Dr. Keyes has in this short but
>> brilliant piece below. He is truly our Thomas Paine. My sincere thanks
>> to Arlin Adams for forwarding it to me. -- Mike Vanderboegh, 1 ACR
>>
>
>I agree that Alan Keyes does it well, although IMO, a bit too
>religiously
>and intellectually for general consumption and broad effectiveness.
>Hopefully you recall Charleton Heston's earlier explanation, but if
>not, a copy follows. It also hits the nail on the head.
>
>Regards, Skip.
I disagree. We need the Religious and Intellectual, just as much as we need
the Joe and Jane Sixpacs; I.e., _all_ Americans to come on board. Thus
comming together, we Americans will prevail on all fronts, not just one or
two, here and there.
No one can fight all battles everywhere, but when the people come together,
many fronts can be addressed. Otherwise, as Ben Franklin put it, "We will
all hang seperately". We need to recognize that the Lefts Culture War
against Christianity in particular of all other religions, is just as much a
touchstone/litmus test as RKBA is. The unstated goal/hallmark ofthe Left is
Government of the Criminals, by the Criminals, for the Criminals, as long as
they are the, "Government Approved", Politically Correct Criminals. It is
then, no wonder that they are against Religion in general and Judaeo/
Christianity in particular. None of the other Religions push Duty,
Responsibility, and accountability quite so hard, so naturally, they come
under fire the most, (in this Country), as we are mostly Christian, in
outlook if not in actuality. Whatever else you might think of Rush Limbaugh
and his people, they do not put out false statistics. According to him, 95%
of Americans consider themselves to be some variety of Christian. Thats not
to say that that many actually _are_ Christians, just that they _see_
_themselves_ as such. As such, it's time a whole lot of us came out of the
Prayer Closet, and take up once again, our proper place in the Public Square
of Ideas, Philosophy, and Politics. We've allowed ourselves to be shouted
down by a loud minority, and need to turn the tables.
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weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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