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roc-digest Saturday, October 9 1999 Volume 02 : Number 289
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 99 16:51:11 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: [richslick] S L I C K Year 4, No. 45 (fwd)
On Oct 9, RichSlick@aol.com wrote:
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=A9 1999 Rich Martin
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Grand Prairie, TX 75053 RichSlick@aol.com
"Do the right thing. It will gratify some people and=20
astonish the rest." Mark Twain
_______________________________________________=20
Happy Columbus Day, 1999
I was channel surfing when I came across Ned Beatty, of=20
all people, giving a presidential speech on C-SPAN. I've got=20
to tell you, I am amazed. He wasn't the suave and confident=20
actor I expected. His demeanor could best described as=20
nervous. Now that's not meant as a put down, or to say I=20
agree with any of his conclusions, but he was addressing the=20
issues and proposing (liberal) solutions. And you know what,=20
it was refreshing. I haven't heard a politician do that since=20
Ronald Reagan's first term.=20
He was followed to the podium by Sen John McCain, the=20
war hero, who spoke how the country needs to be returned to=20
the people. He wowed the audience with patriotic words=20
saying he'd bring respect back into the White House, without=20
once mentioning an issue. He was the clear runaway winner.
I've long wondered why the feds changed our currency to=20
look like it was designed by Parker Bros and then announced=20
that they would continue accepting the old style currency=20
susceptible to counterfeiting. Perhaps I'm growing cynical=20
(nah) but now they've started minting quarters honoring one=20
state with a figure that reminds us of another, such as the=20
Delaware quarter with a figure that more resembles Paul=20
Revere. Maybe their goal isn't to prevent counterfeiting as=20
much as it is to cheapen the appearance of cash (in favor=20
of govt controllable electronic transfers) and blur the=20
lines of statehood. But just as I convince myself I'm=20
paranoid, I wonder again, why don't they recall the old=20
counterfeitable currency?=20
Well, the Yanks lead 2 games to zip. No team in history=20
has ever come back to win after losing the first 2 games of=20
the playoffs. We've got them right where we want them: over-=20
confident.=20
How Slick is Slick?=20
Trai=
tor=20
Bill Clinton [Free Republic]=20
PATIENTS RIGHTS BILL
Looks like the Libs are going to get another piece of=20
the Hillary Health Plan in place, and each time they do=20
costs go up, and the number uninsured people goes up.=20
There were 37 mil uninsured then, there are 41 million now.=20
The only one's making any progress are the liberal pols,=20
We the People certainly aren't.=20
IDEAL DEM SOLUTION
To hear them tell it, the ideal (aka the Hillary plan)=20
would be to pass a law requiring all employers of any size=20
to purchase the very best health insurance for their=20
employees. Put aside the fact that employees pay for all of=20
their benefits, from dental insurance to the so-called=20
company portion of FICA, in the form of smaller take home=20
pay, the Dem plan still doesn't contribute to the solution.=20
The only way to increase the number of people being serviced=20
isn't by giving them insurance, which in the long term may=20
be counterproductive when docs take longer vacations and=20
retire earlier. (If demand is increased, and supply remains the=20
same, market prices can expect to go up.) Why aren't they=20
smart enough to realize, to get more quality health care, you=20
must have more quality health providers? Repeal the laws=20
limiting the number of docs allowed in Med School each year.=20
If the govt feels the need to do something, let them give=20
scholarships to the best and brightest.
HATE CRIME
Can you imagine the uproar if an artist painted a=20
picture of the Star of David covered in elephant dung? It=20
would be a Hillary of a different color. (They'd want to=20
hang the artist instead of the "work of art".) =20
HIDDEN TAXES
Last year Los Angeles collected $5 million from citizens=20
caught using "handicapped passes" inappropriately, and none=20
of it was used to reduce the tax burden on the tax payers.
TAX HIKES =3D LOWER BENEFITS
Rush Limbaugh pointed out several cuts made by Clinton=20
forces on the "poor", such as lowering the threshold on how=20
much a senior citizen could earn, without losing Social=20
Security benefits, and a multitude of new cig taxes. Here's=20
another, in one of their last official acts, the Democratic
Congress removed the tax exemption for unemployment=20
benefits, effectively reducing those benefits by 15%!=20
EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT
The GOP caved on their plan to stretch out EIC payments=20
over 12 mos to help with their smoke-and-mirror budget=20
plans. I can think of a lot of reasons that the idea would=20
be an improvement over the current lump sum payment method,=20
but "balancing the budget on the backs of the poor" isn't=20
one of them. This needs a full blown natl discussion.
WELFARE REFORM
What would you call a monthly stipend paid to poor=20
families based on their income of the prior year, welfare?
(See above.)
ANIMAL RIGHTS
Isn't it curious, while local govts are passing=20
ordinances to prohibit domestic livestock within the city=20
limits, others are working equally hard to allow dangerous=20
animals, such as wolves and alligators, to run wild (on=20
other people's property).=20
WACO
Waco: Govt=20=
Set=20
Fire=20
CLINTON LEGACY
Have you noticed all the people who think they are=20
qualified to fill the shoes of prez Clinton? Ned Beatty. The =20
Donald. Cybil Shepard. Oprah. Not one indoctrinated in the=20
laws of governing. When compared to the current occupant of=20
at 1600 Pennsylvania... THE=20
CLINTONS LEGACY
=20
FORFEITURE LAWS
As bad as it is, the Republicrats plan to make the=20
forfeiture laws that skirt around the Bill of Rights worse.=20
DOJ's Forfeiture Expansion Bill just introduced Senate Bill=20
1701 is a horrible bill. The sponsors of S-1701 are:=20
Sens Jeff Sessions (R. Ala.) and Charles Schumer (D-NY).=20
The co-sponsors are: Strom Thurmond (R-SC), Joseph Biden =20
(D-Del), Jesse Helms (R-NC), Diane Feinstein (D-Cal) and Max=20
Cleland (D-Ga).=20
MEDIACRATS
A reporter named Sperry was recently attacked by the WH=20
story-teller Joe Lockhart for confronting the prez at a=20
"rope event" held on the lawn of White House. He said it was=20
a "social affair" held for the reporters and their families,=20
and inferred Sperry was out of order asking the prez a=20
serious question. Sperry has been on tv talk circuit to=20
explain his side, including Bill O'Reiley's The Factor, but=20
there's one question that never comes up. Good ol' Joe=20
inferred Sperry was an ingrate for not graciously accepting=20
the prez hospitality ("if it were my house...").=20
Hey, we're not dumb. We know why they want to get the=20
media in an informal setting with their families. But why=20
are We the People footing the bill to have the 4th Estate's=20
objectivity compromised? Clinton didn't give the party, We=20
the People did! Or, at least, WE paid for it. Small=20
potatoes, maybe, but any reporter who showed up is opening=20
himself up for charges of collaborating with the enemy,=20
commonly known in DC as "influence peddling." People have=20
been known to pay $50K for such an opportunity.=20
TV
According to candidate Ned Beatty, Congress subsidized=20
(bribed) the tv industry with $2 bil to convert broadcasting=20
to the wide-band digital system of the near future. Those=20
who can afford the new $1,000+ TVs will have a clearer=20
picture to watch. Those who can't afford to replace their=20
several current TVs with a single modern HD TV, will get a=20
clearer picture of how decisions made in DC can affect their=20
personal life style---and why they should have voted in the=20
last election.=20
ALGORE
Algore sez he's sending his campaign to Nashville "to get=20
in touch with his roots" (2 generations removed). Word is=20
he's going to announce how he created the Grand Ole Opry,=20
and reveal that Donna Fargo's "The Happiest Girl In the USA"=20
was written by Tipper on their honeymoon. Alex Haley would=20
be proud. =20
NASHVILLE
His #2 man quit rather than leave the center of power,=20
and reports are the Algore's campaign manager, former Calif=20
Congressman Tony Coehlo, only paid back $200K of the $300K=20
he borrowed as our team leader at the Portugal World Fair.=20
Back when the Constitution was in force, and before Rubin=20
"borrowed" the Fedl Pension Fund to finance the country=20
during the Republican shut-down, only the Congress had the=20
authority to borrow money in the King's name. Looks like=20
Article 8 went south with the 2nd Amendment.=20
Heads Up:=20
ANOTHER GOOD SCANDAL BREWING=20
PAT BUCHANAN
Pundits such as Rush Limbaugh claim PJB is going to the=20
Reform party because they have $13 mil of public matching=20
funds to spend on the prez campaign. The latest FEC reports=20
show that dem candidates Gore & Bradley raised over $13 mil=20
in the last reporting period between them, and George W,=20
well you know about his unprecedented success.=20
KATHIE'S KORNER
Sometimes you just have to wonder. Is it just=20
California? What's going on where you live? Our local high=20
school accepted a bribe from Pepsi-Cola, a Pepsi billboard=20
(essentially) that doubles as a scoreboard for the school's=20
football games. In return, the school promises to sell only=20
Pepsi products on campus. What is really weird is that we've=20
gone even further and prohibit the sale of all caffeinated=20
beverages at the high school, even regular Pepsi. The=20
principle bridles when asked. Caffeine is bad for you, he=20
says solemnly. Last time I looked, so is sugar, chocolate,=20
butter, aspartame and a great many other ingredients of=20
school lunches. Do you think caffeine is waiting in the=20
wings, waiting for when the spotlight moves off tobacco?
Reply to: fishrap@netdex.com
AND THEN THERE WERE THREE
In another blow against our free economy, World Com, who=20
bought MCI not long ago, has decided to do away with another=20
competitor by "purchasing" Sprint in a $115 bil stock swap.=20
Now where I come from, you purchase something with something=20
of value, most often cash; and when corps combine their=20
assets to form a single company with a common stock, it's=20
called a merger. Assuming the Clinton WH agrees, (they've=20
agreed to everything else not related to Bill Gates) the Big=20
3 will control 90% of the long distance in the country. Just=20
one more telecommunication mergers, and we'll be back to the=20
future (when AT&T and ITT monopolized the industry).=20
PAY CUT IN THE WORLD'S BEST ECONOMY
United Airlines has announced they are cutting travel=20
agents commission from 8% to 5%. American Airlines is=20
expected to follow suit. In another cost saving move, Chase=20
Bank has announced the transfer of 1,600 marketing jobs from=20
Long Island, to Arlington, TX. (Take that, you Yankee fans.)=20
How much will be passed on the the consumer, and how much=20
less will be ending up in the pockets of the workers?=20
REMEMBER THE GOOD OLE DAYS...
when comic books had 52 pages, and were blamed for teenage=20
violence?
when gumballs were a penny, but if you got a "winner", you=20
could get a nickel candy bar.=20
when Martin Kane, Private Eye, was brought to us by I'd=20
walk a mile for a Camel?
BEST OF SLICK-d
the Common=20
Conservative: "Citizen Kane" - D. N. Kane =20
WAR
The Pentagon has requested and recd pay increases for=20
all military personnel. It seems today's mercenaries cost=20
considerably more than the patriots who filled the ranks in=20
the days of yore. 128 flag officers have quit the service=20
with no notice made by the mass media.=20
GREATEST LIE OF THE 2OTH CENTURY
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica=20
Lewinski."
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PARTING THOUGHT
Only in America does the govt outlaw images of the=20
Virgin Mary at town squares and public school pageants,=20
while demanding they be displayed covered in elephant dung=20
in "art" museums. We're a sick, sick nation.=20
* * * * *=20
Subscribe to this Slick e-zine featuring Kathie's Korner,
and receive absolutely free, a copy of Rich's Major Media=20
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top of this message. Be sure to include your e-mail address.
THE TRUTH IS...=20
A. Powerful. C. In the eye of the beholder.=20
B. Irrelevant. D. All of the above.
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RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA!
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An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 99 16:53:13 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: [slickplus] Fwd: JAIL BEFORE YOU ARE GUILTY AND WITH NO VICTIM - ALL IT TAKES IS AN ACCUS... (fwd)
On Oct 9, RichSlick@aol.com wrote:
[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------]
From: "a voice for children"
To: "A Voice For Children"
Subject: JAIL BEFORE YOU ARE GUILTY AND WITH NO VICTIM - ALL IT TAKES IS AN ACCUSATION !!!!
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 12:05:54 -0700
We have faith in the people of Oregon that they see through the schemes of
Kevin Mannix and his associate social engineers and traitorous bar members
in the legislature.
Among the insidious tenacles of this blatant unconstitutional regime, is the
language that is seen quite often wherein "Except as otherwise specifically
provided, this section
>supersedes any conflicting section of this Constitution." This is going to
completely destroy the integrity of the original constitution once and for
all, and silence any parts that establish restrictions on government that
"conflict" with these unconstitutional measures.
Another concealled intent, and the primary purpose of this bill, (and
many others like it pushed past a thousand other bills that never got
hearing on the self interest of Mannix and fellow TRAITORS) (that is what
someone who commits TREASON IS) .... By allowing the STATE to incarcerate
people BEFORE trial, and not require a victim, gives the STATE ultimate
control over EVERYONE ...... the STATE is a fictitious entity - not an
actual person - and just like the STATE accuses everyone, then uses a
revolving party of 210 assistant attorney generals at taxpayer expense to
destroy anyone who comes against the STATE or challenges the STATES
authority. By jailing people who have been ACCUSED - and it makes special
mention of sex abuse "allegations".....This is the FAVORITE TOOL of the
persecutors - throw the "nasty card" at every man, especially, and that is
all ! The courts will create the rest of the story, with compromised state
employed counsellors and officers who will write hearsay reports and destroy
childrens minds with sexual abuse and call this evidence.......We have
proven this first hand, that the STATE will also in this manner refuse to
allow lies to be recanted, and will proceed with prosecution in the NAME OF
THE STATE (?!) having created a fictitious, non existent "victim" to
"defend". The DA "assumes" that "probably" the person recanted bacuse they
were "intimidated" by the defendant, another reason to jail "potential"
criminals.......the snake coils around and around the tree of justice.......
The primary goal of this bill is that once you are incarcerated, you
CANNOT defend yourself. I am president of Oregon Judicial Watch and can
confirm the horrendous situation right now with plea bargains, mandated
sentences and courts of no due process or real evidence, wherein corrupt
Appeals court judges on parole boards refuse to release prisoners even when
they have served their terms, and the prisons have a federal money "prisoner
incentive" program which rewards the STATE NOT to release prisoners. Once
the person is incarcerated, they are forced in to a compelled contract with
a prostitute attorney who works for the STATE - the STATE is creating a ONE
HANDS GROUP (have already done this) whereby EVERYONE IN THE COURTROOM works
for the State or is Licensed by the STATE or is subcontracted to the STATE
so that they are comrpomised.
EVERY PIECE OF VICTIMS RIGHTS LEGISLATION AND PROTECT THE CHILD PROTECTS
THE REGIME AND DESTROYS INDIVIDUALS RIGHTS.
In l986 Kitzhaber said THE STATE IS THE PARENT OF THE CHILD and all of the
legislation is IN PLACE ALREADY and this is the crowning achievement
carefully orchestrated by Mannix and fellow bar members who are violating
the constitution by even BEING IN THE LEGISLATURE and also being members of
the judicial branch, the bar being a "branch" of the courts......
The media, by omissions, have kept the people in the dark, but no
longer.
These measures were pushed through without any process in place to insure
constitutionality - for the Legislature to move forward unconstitutional
rules, which are VOID OF LAW, is in itself TREASON and MISPRISON OF FELONY
to deny citizens access to right of redress of greivances.
THE CONSTITUTION RESTRICTS GOVERNMENT - IT DOES NOT "GIVE' ANYBODY RIGHTS
!!!!!!!! IT ONLY ESTABLISHES INVIOLATE RIGHTS OF CHILDREN OF GOD !!!! THE
STATUTES THAT HAVE USURPED THE CONSTITUTION SAY THEY 'CONFER RIGHTS'
(example ORCP 20(C) says statutes "a right derived therefrom") - It is so
BLATANT now that we see how the bar has insidiously undermined our freedom,
in particular since l910, creating a counterfeit constitutional amendment to
create a provisional government. This was never ratified, and now we have
challenged the Oregon Supreme Court to defend this TREASON against the
people.
WAKE UP AMERICA
>
- -----Original Message-----
From: Les Lemke
To: govtwatch@egroups.com
Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 3:53 AM
Subject: OREGON HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 90 - MEASURE 71
>OREGON HOUSE JOINT RESULTION 90 = MEASURE 71
>
>You say you've been wrongly arrested and you are innocent and
>would like to have bail set? Forget it...this is from HJR 90.
>
>Remember now....your SUPPOSED TO BE INNOCENT until
>proven guilty.
>
>"Murder, aggravated murder and treason shall not be bailable when
>the proof is evident or the presumption strong that the person is
>guilty. Other violent felonies shall not be bailable when a court
>has determined there is probable cause to believe the criminal
>defendant committed the crime, and the court finds, by clear and
>convincing evidence, that there is danger of physical injury or
>sexual victimization to the victim or members of the public by
>the criminal defendant while on release."
>
>Pay close attention to the fact that it is THE STATE that is
>making the determination that a person is "dangerous"..... I'm not
>saying that people who are clearly violent and dangerous to society
>shouldn't be denied bail. What I'm trying to convey is the power the
>state is creating for itself.
>
>
>THEN WE HAVE (From Section 2):
>*****************************
>"Except as otherwise specifically provided, this section
>supersedes any conflicting section of this Constitution."
>
>AND THE BEST PART OF IT ALL:
>******************************
>"In the event no person has been determined to be a victim
>of the crime, the people of Oregon, represented by the prosecuting
>attorney, are considered to be the victims."
>
>Guess we can go after all those nasty PARENTS that don't go along
>with GOVERNMENTSPEAK, eh? And then there's political dissidents,
>activists and other DANGEROUS people that THE GOVERNMENT
>doesn't like.....
>
>Here's House Joint Resolution 90 - Measure 90 on the ballot.
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>
> 70th OREGON LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY--1999 Regular Session
>
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> Enrolled
>
> House Joint Resolution 90
>
>Sponsored by COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY - CRIMINAL LAW
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>Be It Resolved by the Legislative Assembly of the State of
> Oregon:
>
> PARAGRAPH 1. The Constitution of the State of Oregon is amended
>by creating a new section to be added to and made a part of
>Article I, such section to read:
> { + (1) To ensure that a fair balance is struck between the
>rights of crime victims and the rights of criminal defendants in
>the course and conduct of criminal proceedings, the following
>rights are hereby granted to victims in all prosecutions for
>crimes:
> (a) The right to be reasonably protected from the criminal
>defendant or the convicted criminal throughout the criminal
>justice process and from the alleged youth offender or youth
>offender throughout the juvenile delinquency proceedings.
> (b) The right to have decisions by the court regarding the
>pretrial release of a criminal defendant based upon the principle
>of reasonable protection of the victim and the public, as well as
>the likelihood that the criminal defendant will appear for trial.
>Murder, aggravated murder and treason shall not be bailable when
>the proof is evident or the presumption strong that the person is
>guilty. Other violent felonies shall not be bailable when a court
>has determined there is probable cause to believe the criminal
>defendant committed the crime, and the court finds, by clear and
>convincing evidence, that there is danger of physical injury or
>sexual victimization to the victim or members of the public by
>the criminal defendant while on release.
> (2) This section applies to proceedings pending or commenced on
>or after the effective date of this section. Nothing in this
>section abridges any right of the criminal defendant guaranteed
>by the Constitution of the United States, including the rights to
>be represented by counsel, have counsel appointed if indigent,
>testify, present witnesses, cross-examine witnesses or present
>information at the release hearing. Nothing in this section
>creates any cause of action for compensation or damages nor may
>this section be used to invalidate an accusatory instrument,
>ruling of a court, conviction or adjudication or otherwise
>suspend or terminate any criminal or juvenile delinquency
>proceeding at any point after the case is commenced or on appeal.
>Except as otherwise specifically provided, this section
>supersedes any conflicting section of this Constitution.
> (3) As used in this section:
> (a) 'Victim' means any person determined by the prosecuting
>attorney to have suffered direct financial, psychological or
>physical harm as a result of a crime and, in the case of a victim
>who is a minor, the legal guardian of the minor. In the event no
>person has been determined to be a victim of the crime, the
>people of Oregon, represented by the prosecuting attorney, are
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>Enrolled House Joint Resolution 90 (HJR 90-B) Page 1
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>considered to be the victims. In no event is it intended that the
>criminal defendant be considered the victim.
> (b) 'Violent felony' means a felony in which there was actual
>or threatened serious physical injury to a victim or a felony
>sexual offense.
> (4) The prosecuting attorney is the party authorized to assert
>the rights of the victim and the public established by this
>section. + }
>
> PARAGRAPH 2. { + The amendment proposed by this resolution
>shall be submitted to the people for their approval or rejection
>at a special election held throughout this state on the date
>specified in section 2, chapter ___, Oregon Laws 1999 (Enrolled
>House Bill 2354). + }
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> Adopted by House May 27, 1999
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> Readopted by House July 9, 1999
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> Chief Clerk of House
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> Speaker of House
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> Adopted by Senate July 7, 1999
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> President of Senate
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RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA!
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An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no
weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his
hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a
on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 99 19:06:49 PST
From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance)
Subject: [2ndamendmentnews] EFFECTIVE LOBBYING (fwd)
On Oct 9, Weldon Clark wrote:
[-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------]
From: "Weldon Clark"
EFFECTIVE LOBBYING
Third in a series. Next is Running Campaigns and
Unregistering Your Gun. See below.
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Oppose and defeat the Juvenile Justice Bill
You can call your representatives at the following toll-free
numbers US Capitol Switchboard 888-449-3511 You can
also call them using the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-
3121.
Here's an e-mail link to Congress. http://in-search-of.org/
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/
http://www.gunowners.org/mailerx.html
To spread the word call Rush Limbaugh at 800-282-2882 and
callers may call in from 12 noon to 3PM EST, M-F
See newly revised www.2ndamendment.net
For legislative updates contact www.nealknox.com and go to
"Scripts from the Firearms Coalition Legislative Update Line"
*****************************
BASIC PRINCIPLE - Gun laws do not prevent criminals from
getting firearms. Criminals do not obey laws. In fact, the
disarming of honest citizens makes crime worse. Therefore,
additional firearm restrictions are bad and fewer restrictions
are good. Anti-gun media people and politicians do not wish
to control your firearms. They wish to destroy your firearms.
PURPOSE - Your purpose is to protect the individual's right
to keep and bear arms. The best way to defend your own
rights is to defend the rights of others. This means achieving
positive legislative results. Your job as an activist is to (A)
stop bad legislation from passing and (B) get good legislation
passed. The job is not to make a particular person or
politician happy.
NECESSARY PREREQUISITES - You must be willing to
spend your own time, energy and money to do this work.
First, go to your local library and copy all of the state and
federal firearm laws and place then in a notebook with
separators and labels. Read and understand all of these
laws. Next be a member of a firearms organization in your
state - preferably one that has a range and a large, stable,
active membership. Make sure you can mail to this
membership. Get to be the organization's legislative officer.
Get from your state capital a roster of the state legislators
with their HOME and office addresses and phone numbers.
Print up this roster in a handy folded to fit shirt pocket form.
Pass these out at gun clubs and include in all mailing to
members at least once per year. Politicians respond
primarily to THOSE IN THEIR DISTRICTS who can vote for
or against them. Get a copy of your state's rules for both the
senate and house. Know these rules.
ACTIVATING FIREARMS OWNERS - Only when it is
absolutely necessary must you try to get a large number of
your fellow gun owners to contact their representatives by the
use of an EXPENSIVE mailing. However, when it is
necessary, the mailing should contain your cover letter
describing the position you believe they should take with their
legislators and a roster of the legislators to be contacted.
Your letter must be true, strong and motivational. Anger and
fear should be in your letter to your firearm owner friends.
You must get them to act. They will act but you cannot get
them to do this very often.
PRINCIPLE OF LEGISLATIVE DIRECTION - Bad legislation
is that legislation that restricts firearm owners further in a
particular jurisdiction. Good legislation is that legislation that
restricts firearm owners less in that particular jurisdiction.
Legislation that is good in a very restrictive state is bad is a
far less restrictive state. People who have not lived in a very
restrictive state do not understand this.
The legislative rules are as follows:
1. Stopping bad legislation is the FIRST PRIORITY.
A. Use the numerical strength where it exists in either house
or either committee.
B. Get amendments attached to make the bill less likely to
pass.
C. If nothing else works, get a lot of amendments adopted to
soften the legislation. Firearm owners who have never lived
in a very restrictive state do not understand this. An example
is a bill to follow private sales in a state I formerly resided.
Friends in the state Senate amended this bad bill that had
passed the house. This meant that the bill had to go back to
the house and pass with the amendments. In the mean time
I personally called 180 members of my gun club and the bill
failed in the house by 2 votes out of a 141-member house.
A word of caution here. You do not want to amend the bill to
make it acceptable to more of the members of the general
assembly. You wish to make the bill unacceptable to anti-
gun legislators. The object is to kill the bill.
2. Passing good legislation is the SECOND PRIORITY;
however when no attack is present pursue good legislation.
A. Write the bill so that it will be perceived as practical
legislation. Read the present law and get a lawyer friend to
help. Run it by others. A dream bill that goes nowhere
wastes resources and your creditability. THE PERFECT IS
THE ENEMY OF THE GOOD.
B. Use the numerical strength where it exists in either house
or committee.
C. Get amendments attached to make the bill more likely to
pass.
D. If the politicians insist on garbaging up the bill, stop or
soften any of these amendments you can. However get the
bill passed.
E. PRINCIPLE OF GRADUALISM - Use the gradualism
approach. Year after year pass good bills. People who have
never lived in a very restrictive state do not understand this.
A lot of members think NRA is responsible for the final
wording of a bill. This is not necessarily true. Mistakes can
be made by local activists who are not politically savvy or
more likely by NRA-ILA's liaisons. YOUR FRIENDS CAN DO
TO YOU WHAT YOUR ENEMIES CANNOT. However
opposition politicians do the most damage.
F. DO NO HARM You have no moral right to appease
the anti-gun politicians and media. Do not preemptively
surrender, or decide which aspect of our Second Amendment
right should be gutted in trade for advancing or not gutting
some other aspect. Do not support "tolerable"
unconstitutional gun controls to appear reasonable, or in
return for a sucker promise to back off on other gun controls.
Unfortunately over the years NRA has done this at times. In
1988 they made a compromise to get the Maryland roster
board that now decides what handguns can be sold in
Maryland. The NRA State Liaison called me late at night to
tell me AFTER the fact. I wrote and help bring to a vote the
Maryland referendum to try to stop the law from going into
effect. This did fail because of the police raid on the
headquarters of the Maryland Committee Against the Gun
Ban the night before the election. The TV stations left the
voters with the impression the pro-gun side was doing
something illegal. (The anti-gun politicians used the tactics of
the Nazis in Germany in the 1930s.)
COMMUNICATING WITH POLITICIANS - Do not try to
communicate with the politicians who are the enemies of
firearm ownership. You do not want to waste your time and
damage our cause by educating the enemy. Do all your
communication with the politicians in that political body who
are in favor of firearm ownership. Testify at each hearing
where an anti-gun bill is being considered. Arrive early and
sign up before anyone else. Stay late and talk to the
politicians who are on your side in the committee. A friend on
the committee can do our cause a world of good.
GOOD ARGUMENTS - Your idea of a good argument and
what works are different. The ideas that work on anti-gun
bills are pointing out those things in the bill that can work an
injustice on the average citizen. Your committee testimony
should be written for reference. But only say what others
have not said ahead of you. Repetition will not work with
committee members.
FOLLOW THE BILL - It is up to you to know the legislative
schedule and obtain timely copies of all bills affecting firearm
owners. You must think ahead and have the information
beforehand. Anti-gun bills are not dead until the legislative
session ends. Pro-gun bills are not completed until signed by
the Governor.
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