From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #316 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Thursday, February 10 2000 Volume 02 : Number 316 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 07:54:42 -0600 (CST) From: Paul M Watson Subject: Urgent Action Needed: Big Brother Wants Your Medical Records! (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:44:38 -0600 From: Dawn Richardson To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:"@lion.esosoft.net Subject: Urgent Action Needed: Big Brother Wants Your Medical Records! URGENT: TAKE ACTION NOW BEFORE FEBRUARY 17th PROBLEM: Big Brother Wants Your Medical Records! SOLUTION: If you care about privacy and want to keep your private identifiable intimate medical details out of the hands of the government, you need to immediately submit written comments in opposition to these proposed federal regulations which dangerously grant federal, state, and local government employees access to your medical records without your consent for purposes over which you have no control! SPECIFIC ACTIONS: A) Immediately forward this alert to anyone concerned about medical privacy B) Write a letter in opposition to the proposed regulations of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) see sample below C) Send the letter to arrive on or before February 17th to the following: 1) HHS By mail: Send original and 3 copies to: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation Attention: Privacy-P Room G-322A, Hubert H. Humphrey Building 200 Independence Ave. SW Washington, D.C. 20201 or Online: Link to http://aspe.hhs.gov/admnsimp/ Select option #3 - To Submit Comments 2) Your One U.S. Congressional Representative http://www.house.gov/writerep/ (lookup capability too) or The Honorable _________ U.S. House of Representatives Washington, DC 20515 3) Your Two U.S. Senators http://www.senate.gov/ (lookup capability too) or The Honorable _________ U.S. Senate Washington, DC 20510 D) Immediately call the offices of your U.S. Representative and Senators, verbally express you concerns, and ask them to consider submitting comments to HHS before the February 17th deadline. (Capitol Switchboard 202-225-3121) ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: If you would like to access and review the proposed rule online, link to http://aspe.hhs.gov/admnsimp/, scroll down on that site and select #2 "To Read or Download Only". Scroll down to the section entitled "Read NPRM, by Section" and select a section by clicking on the section title. You may want to pay particular attention to these sections: Introduction to Uses and Disclosures Without Individual Authorization Uses and Disclosures for Public Health Activities Use and Disclosure for Health Oversight Activities Disclosure for Law Enforcement Uses and Disclosures for Governmental Health Data Systems Disclosure of Directory Information Disclosure for Banking and Payment Processes Uses and Disclosures for Research Uses and Disclosures in Emergency Circumstances If you would like to review detailed analysis and comments by others opposing the rule, see the following: Association of American Physicians and Surgeons http://www.aapsonline.org./aaps/confiden/hhsp.htm Institute for Health Freedom http://www.forhealthfreedom.org/Publications/Privacy/NeedToKnow.html Representative Ron Paul's Privacy Forum http://www.house.gov/paul/privacy/medpriv120999.htm Sincerely, Dawn Richardson PROVE(Parents Requesting Open Vaccine Education) P.O. Box 1071 Cedar Park, TX 78630-1071 (512) 918-8760 prove@vaccineinfo.net (email) http://vaccineinfo.net (web site) - ------------------------- SAMPLE LETTER: Note: When mailing to HHS, you must send an ORIGINAL and THREE(3) COPIES to arrive on or before February 17, 2000. U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary for Planning and Evaluation Attention: Privacy-P Room G-322A, Hubert H. Humphrey Building 200 Independence Ave. SW Washington, D.C. 20201 Dear Assistant Secretary: This letter is in response to the proposed regulations on patient privacy published in the Federal Register on November 3, 1999. I am writing as an individual health care consumer who is strongly opposed to the disclosure of my personal medical records without my consent. I do not want to have my intimate medical details released to persons I do not know, for purposes I cannot predict, which may be contrary to my best interests, simply because HHS employees think that the public will somehow benefit. These regulations would grant federal, state, and local government health employees broad unrestricted access and control of my identifiable private medical information without my consent for anything that can be linked to the HHS-defined open-ended "national priority purposes" of research, public health, government health data systems, law enforcement and oversight of the health care system. My medical records are my private property and access to them should be controlled solely by a private contract between me and my health care provider, not the federal government. I am strongly opposed to having my identifiable personal health information collected and stored in federal databases for any reason and being used for medical research without my consent. Additionally, these regulations significantly undermine the trust I will have in disclosing information to my health care provider especially since everything contained in my record can be released whenever the government asks for it. That will compromise the quality of my care and ultimately the quality of my health. Neither the statute nor the Constitution gives HHS the authority to grant the government access and control of my medical records, especially without my consent. Managing my medical records is an inappropriate function of government. I respectfully request that HHS withdraw these proposed regulations, rewrite them to respect my privacy rights and comply with the statute and the Constitution, and then resubmit them for another public comment period. Sincerely, CC: The Honorable ___, U.S. House of Representatives The Honorable ___, U.S. Senate The Honorable ___, U.S. Senate - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 00 09:15:00 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fw: [tagnet] Poll -- assault weapons in Broward County (fwd) On Feb 2, Mike Copeland wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] This one needs our help. - -Mike > Forwarded message: > > =========== > http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/daily/detail/0,1136,27000000000106212,00.ht ml > > "The Broward legislative delegation is taking up the issue of gun > control. Should assault weapons be banned in Broward? > ============== > present: > Yes > (60%) > No > (39%) > Total votes: 1567 [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 00 21:27:32 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: The Common Conservative 2/1/00 (fwd) On Feb 2, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Tom Adkins The Common Conservative 2/1/00 CommonConservative.com <---click here Omega Male Sit. Roll Over. Fetch. Good boy... By Tom Adkins I was flipping through channels the other night. I'm the Alpha male in my house, so I control the remote. I came across a Discovery Channel show on a wolf pack. How they lived, how they hunted, how they grew up, how they reared their young and all that cool stuff. The Alpha female ruled the pack, of course, a common arrangement in lower animal classes. The other females accepted their fate and resigned themselves to collectively rearing the young, and kept the pack intact. Then, the show focused on the males. There was the Alpha male. He was Mr. Big, and didn't take any crap from anyone. Then they showed the Beta male. He was always looking for a way to one-up the Alpha male, especially with the ladies. The Beta male was second place, but no slouch. The other wolves respected him. Then, something started bothering me. After all the grief we gave Al Gore about the Alpha/Beta male thing well, none of this fits. Bill Clinton is obviously the Alpha male. He does whatever he wants, obeying no rules except those set by Alpha Female Hillary. (She keeps him in line with a strategically placed lampshade across the noggin once in a while, but accepts his behavior as the price for her pack status.) But Al Gore, the Beta male? A Beta male is supposed to keep the Alpha male on his toes. A good Alpha leaves few opportunities, and a good Beta takes advantage of the Alpha's mistakes. But wait a second. That's not Al Gore. The show then took a detour, featuring a scruffy, goofy wolf. He was the Omega, the disrespected lowest in the pack. All other wolves picked on him. He ate only scraps they left him. The Omega did whatever he was told, or he got a good bite in the ass from the other wolves. Suddenly, it hit me; Al gore is the Omega Male. It's actually an important job. The Omega must be willing to sell his soul to keep the pack intact. That sure fits Al Gore. Remember that tearful anti-cigarette epiphany at his sister's deathbed, while he was actually taking gobs of money from tobacco companies? Classic Omega. And remember wife Tipper's PMRC, founded to combat immoral entertainment and to censor the music industry? Gore shoved it aside when he sucked up to Hollywood fat cats for campaign bucks, and then defended a president who molested women and lied about it under oath. That is true Omega courage. And the Omega wolf does silly things to break tension within the pack. That certainly sounds like Gore. We chuckled when he got lost in a national park. We howled when he claimed the automobile was the greatest threat to humanity. Even hardened grumps fell on the floor laughing when Gore claimed he invented the Internet. We could hardly control ourselves when he ironically hired feminist Naomi Wolf to teach him the ways of an Alpha Male. Certainly, no sane Alpha would do this. Neither would a Beta. Only an Omega would bumble so hilariously. Think of it. Every time Gore had a chance to rise above the Alpha male, he rolled over and showed his belly. He could have refused to launder money at that Buddhist temple. He could have objected to the 900 FBI files. He missed a golden opportunity to one-up Clinton when America discovered he assaulted women, obstructed justice and lied under oath. And he stood passively when Clinton helped sell missile secrets to China in apparent exchange for 3 million illegal campaign bucks. These were silver-platter opportunities, offering Gore the perfect chance to show the American pack he was better than Clinton. If Gore had taken a stand at any point, Democrats would have abandoned their Alpha Molester and Gore might well be president. But he didn't. Because Gore isn't an Alpha. He's not even a Beta. He's a quivering, purebred 100% Omega Male. So why bring this up now, long after the "Alpha" story broke? Because the elections are only nine months away, and Democrats are about to offer an Omega male to lead the most powerful nation on earth. Someone who spent his last seven years on the sidelines of a real life Good versus Evil play. Someone who passively accepted a seriously flawed Alpha leader. Instead of taking a stand, he winced at the opportunity to lead. Gore knuckled under like a cowering, pure-bred Omega bottom-feeder. And he never so much as cleared his throat. Instead, Al Gore submissively did what he was told. Sit. Roll Over. Play dead. Good boy, Al. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 00 09:27:26 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Fratrum: Fw: JPFO Alert on UN and your Right to Bear Arms/Fwd (fwd) On Feb 3, John Fisher wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] HI ya'll, A good friend informed me today that the term "gun control" has been replaced (deleted) by the mass media machine and will be henceforth referred to as "gun safety". I surely wish George Orwell was around to write a sequel because there is plenty of material around.....he could call it 2000:Big Brother II or whatever....I've also come to realize that the National Rifle Assocation and the Gun Owners of America organizations cannot compare to the Jews For The Preservation of Firearms as it relates to our Second Amendment rights, so I pass on the following. If the JPFO is concerned, then so should we. John ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization February 1, 2000 Showdown with the United Nations -- Your Rights In the Balance Do you agree with some or all of the following statements about the United Nations: (1) The United Nations can serve a useful function by providing a forum for diplomats to communicate on international issues, and the U.N. can help as a peacekeeper between formerly warring nations as well as coordinate international humanitarian relief. (2) Americans increasingly "see the U.N. aspiring to establish itself as the central authority of a new international order of global laws and global governance. This is an international order the American people will not countenance." (3) "The American people will never accept the claims of the United Nations to be the sole source of legitimacy on the use of force in the world." (4) "No U.N. institution ... is competent to judge the foreign policy and national security decisions of the United States." (5) "If the U.N. seeks ... to impose the U.N.'s power and authority over nation-states, I guarantee that the United Nations will meet stiff resistance from the American people." (6) "No [U.N.] treaty or law can ever supersede the Constitution of the United States of America." These six statements formed part of the remarks that Senator Jesse Helms (R-N.C) delivered to the U.N. Security Council on January 21. If you agree with some or all of these six statements, then you'll find yourself up against the Clinton administration. Scrambling to preserve the U.S. position of subservience to the U.N., Secretary of State Madeleine Albright publicly repudiated Senator Helms' views on limiting U.N. power and influence on January 24. Ms. Albright herself told the Security Council: "Let me be clear. Only the president and the executive branch can speak for the United States. Today, on behalf of the president, let me say that the Clinton administration and I believe that most Americans see our role in the world and our relationship to [the U.N.] quite differently than does Senator Helms." The Secretary of State continued, stating that "we strongly support the United Nations Charter which we helped to write. We want to strengthen it through continued reform and we recognize its many contributions to our own interest in a more secure, democratic and humane world." Apparently the current administration views the U.N. as an ally ... and that means we Americans are in deep trouble. Do you know about the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights? The Universal Declaration sets forth the socialist vision of the projected one-world government -- and almost completely nullifies the U.S. Bill of Rights. Which among our precious rights does the U.N. least support? You guessed it ... the fundamental individual right to keep and bear arms. In fact, agencies under the U.N. umbrella are moving to control "small arms" in member nations ... that means global "gun control." National governments that oppose firearms ownership are working to disarm citizens and victims worldwide. Get the facts about U.N. global "gun control" from JPFO, and then inform everyone you can. Order the Gran'pa Jack booklet entitled "The United Nations is Killing Your Freedoms." ($3.00 postage paid, quantity discounts available.) see http://www.jpfo.org/gpjack5.htm to order Gran'pa Jack #5 For a more in-depth explanation of how the U.N. Universal Declaration destroys the U.S. Bill of Rights, call and order the Spring and Fall 1998 back issues of the Firearms Sentinel. Use the new U.N. poster to visually communicate the warning -- check it out at http://www.jpfo.org/poster-ungc.htm . To multiply the power of your outreach, buy four (4) U.N. posters and you will get the Gran'pa Jack U.N. booklet free. Learn the truth and educate your fellow Americans. Your rights and your future depend upon it! References: (1) Helms warns U.N. Security Council, Henry Lamb, WorldNetDaily.com, January 22, 2000. (2) Albright disavows Helms' Statement, Dafna Linzer, The Washington Times, January 25, 2000. - ---------------------------------------------------------------- Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership PO Box 270143 Hartford, Wisconsin 53027 Phone: 262-673-9745 Orders only: 1-800-869-1884 (toll-free!) Fax: 262-673-9746 Web: http://www.jpfo.org/ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 00 11:28:27 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: You're gonna love this one... (fwd) On Feb 3, Jim Zoes wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Vt. Bill targets people without guns Legislator dreams of citizens' militia By Ellen Barry, Globe Staff, 2/1/2000 aking 200-year-old constitutional provisions for the creation of a ''well-regulated militia'' to their most extreme conclusion, a Vermont lawmaker has proposed a crackdown on Vermonters who do not own guns. Harkening back to the days of town square militia musters and citizens' armies, House bill 760 would require residents over 18 who do not own guns to register with the secretary of state's office and pay a $500 penalty.... For the full story, go to: http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/032/metro/Vt_Bill_targets_people_without_gu nsP.shtml [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 00 10:33:12 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Angels Are Everywhere (fwd) On Feb 04, Charles F. Nawrocki wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >From: "RWInman" >To: "Loretta Inman" >Subject: Fw: Angels Are Everywhere >Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 07:53:47 -0800 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > > >WHAT DO ANGELS LOOK LIKE? > >Like the little old lady who returned your wallet yesterday. > >Like the taxi driver who told you that your eyes >light up the world, when you smile. > >Like the small child who showed you the >wonder in simple things. > >Like the poor man who offered to share his lunch with you. > >Like the rich man who showed you that it >really is all possible, if only you believe. > >Like the stranger who just happened to come along, >when you had lost your way. > >Like the friend who touched your heart, >when you didn't think you had one. > >Angels come in all sizes and shapes, >all ages and skin types. > >Some with freckles, some with dimples, >some with wrinkles, some without. > >They come disguised as friends, enemies >teachers, students, lovers and fools. > >They don't take life too seriously, they travel light. > >They leave no forwarding address, they ask nothing in return. > >They are hard to find when your eyes are closed, but when >you choose to see, they are everywhere you look. > >So, open you eyes and count all your Angels -- >for you are truly blessed! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 00 10:33:12 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Angels Are Everywhere (fwd) On Feb 04, Charles F. Nawrocki wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >From: "RWInman" >To: "Loretta Inman" >Subject: Fw: Angels Are Everywhere >Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 07:53:47 -0800 >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 > > >WHAT DO ANGELS LOOK LIKE? > >Like the little old lady who returned your wallet yesterday. > >Like the taxi driver who told you that your eyes >light up the world, when you smile. > >Like the small child who showed you the >wonder in simple things. > >Like the poor man who offered to share his lunch with you. > >Like the rich man who showed you that it >really is all possible, if only you believe. > >Like the stranger who just happened to come along, >when you had lost your way. > >Like the friend who touched your heart, >when you didn't think you had one. > >Angels come in all sizes and shapes, >all ages and skin types. > >Some with freckles, some with dimples, >some with wrinkles, some without. > >They come disguised as friends, enemies >teachers, students, lovers and fools. > >They don't take life too seriously, they travel light. > >They leave no forwarding address, they ask nothing in return. > >They are hard to find when your eyes are closed, but when >you choose to see, they are everywhere you look. > >So, open you eyes and count all your Angels -- >for you are truly blessed! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Feb 00 08:12:25 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Women's sizes (fwd) On Feb 5, Doug Spittler wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Fishing, hunting, and shooting clothes in women's sizes and fits can be found at www.farrows.com. I have no financial/fiduciary interest in the company; I merely laud them for providing a previously missing product that might be instrumental in attracting more women to non-traditional sports. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 00 07:21:15 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Granny Using Gun Castrates Rapists! (fwd) On Feb 7, ASSETNJ@AOL.COM wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] 'GRANBO' Gun-toting granny shoots 2 rapists' testicles off MELBOURNE, Australia -- Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting ex-cons down - - and shot their testicles off! "The old lady spent a week hunting those bums down -- and when she found them, she took revenge on them in her own special way," said admiring Melbourne police investigator Evan Delp. "Then she took a taxi to the nearest police station, laid the gun on the sergeant's desk and told him as calm as could be: 'Those bastards will never rape anybody again, by God.' 81-year-old Ava Estelle shows how she turned two rapists into sopranos. Cops say convicted rapist and robber Davis Furth, 33, lost both his penis and his testicles when outraged Ava opened fire with a 9-mm pistol in the seedy hotel room where he and former prison cellmate Stanley Thomas, 29, were holed up. The wrinkled avenger also blew Thomas' testicles to kingdom come, but doctors managed to save his mangled penis, policy said. "The one guy, Thomas, didn't lose his manhood, but the doctor I talked to said he won't be using it the way he used to," Detective Delp told reporters. "Both men are still in pretty bad shape, but I think they're just happy to be alive after what they've been through." The Rambo Granny swung into action August 21 after her granddaughter Debbie was carjacked and raped by two knife-wielding creeps in a section of town bordering on skid row. "When I saw the look on my Debbie's face that night in the hospital, I decided I was going to go out and get those bastards myself 'cause I figured the police would go easy on them," recalled the retired library worker. "And I wasn't scared of them, either -- because I've got me a gun and I've been shootin' it all my life." So, using a police artist's sketch of the suspects and Debbie's description of the sickos' car, tough-as-nails Ava spent seven days prowling the wino-infested neighborhood where the crime took place till she spotted the ill-fated rapists entering their flophouse hotel. "I know it was them the minute I saw 'em, but I shot a picture of 'em anyway and took it back to Debbie and she said sure as hell, it was them," the ornery oldster recalled. "So I went back to that hotel and found their room and knocked on the door -- and the minute the big one, Furth, opened the door, I shot 'em got right square between the legs, right where it would really hurt 'em most, you know. Then I went down to the police station and turned myself in." Now, baffled lawmen are tying to figure out how to deal with the vigilante granny. "What she did was wrong, but you can't really throw an 81-year-old woman in prison." Det. Delp said, "especially when all 3 million people in the city want to nominate her for sainthood." [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Feb 00 08:53:21 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [slick-d] Iwon survey (fwd) Unfortunately I can't take advantage of this, as my webcrawling machine is down with a hardware problem, but feel free! On Feb 08, Bob James wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] For those of you not familiar with iWon.com, they not only offer $10,000 daily prizes and $1,000,000 monthly prizes (at least until April), today they are having a survey on gun control. Questions: 1) What do you feel about gun control laws (too strict, not strict enough, just right, no opinion) 2) Does private gun ownership deter crime? (yes, no, undecided) and one other.... worth the entry! Bob James Corpus Christi, TX [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Feb 00 08:16:39 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [slickplus] VIN: Feb. 10 column -- Clinton budget (fwd) On Feb 10, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED FEB. 10, 2000 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Could even Siegfried & Roy make $1.8 trillion disappear? It's become the modern custom for the State of the Union address to preview the president's budget proposal. Thus, no one should pretend surprise at the welfare/police-state wish list - a blueprint for a central government which would actually manage to spend $1.84 trillion dollars in a single year in peacetime - rolled out by Bill Clinton Monday. Nonetheless, this lack of surprise should not prevent us from commenting on the shameless cynicism of this "budget" exercise, which would resemble nothing more than the cartoon character Scrooge McDuck waving his hand at a jewelry store display and saying, "I'll take it all," were the moneys in question not looted from the paychecks of actual Americans, many working two jobs to cover the tax bills while keeping food on the table. First, of course, comes the president's assertion that during his term of office Washington City has "paid down the debt by nearly $300 billion," and will finish funding and paying off all federal obligations in a few more years under this budget plan. Would "paying down the federal debt" and other obligations be a good idea? Maybe. It would be interesting to see if Americans would accept a $200,000 cash payoff, per person (somewhat less for those under age 40), in exchange for the permanent shutdown of the actuarially bankrupt Social Security Ponzi scheme - no more FICA withholdings out of any American paycheck, ever. But while truly "paying off the debt" might or might not be a good idea, it's simply not happening. The federal government continues to sell "Treasury bills" and every other form of debt instrument which investors will buy, as fast as the presses will roll. Have any holders of such debt been contacted by Treasury Secretary Rubin with an offer to redeem the stuff early as the United States proceeds to quickly "pay off its debt"? Are new employees in those offices warned their jobs will end in a few years? Of course not. What has happened is that the ongoing economic boom has flooded Washington with extra money - like the ground of an apple orchard unexpectedly littered with fruit after a freak windstorm - based on tax rates set back in the days when the current boom was totally unforeseen. The bureaucrats of Washington would now assert they have to get busy turning those apples into cider and applesauce before they spoil. Problem is, they don't own the orchard - we do. So this is really more akin to a gang of hoodlums scrambling around in a panic, trying to steal all the fruit they can before the owners get back across the creek. "How can we pay down the debt with a budget that substantially expands the size and scope of the federal government?" asks House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill, with increasingly rare good sense. ''How can the 'era of big government' be over when his budget would create close to $350 billion in new government spending?'' Any "tax cuts" in the president's budget are piddling. And they're not even the kind of across-the-board cuts which would allow Americans to spend more of their own earnings as they see fit. Instead, these "cuts" come in the form of "targeted tax breaks" - limited kickbacks which Americans who "file" can acquire only by bearing more children, buying a new house, paying college tuition, or whatever. Yes, each of those activities may be a fine thing in itself, but when did it become Washington's business to "reward" certain selected activities, while "punishing" with higher taxes those who choose to invest their earnings in other ways? Then, Mr. Clinton would turn around and grabs back two-thirds of these piddling "cuts" with a huge new tax hike on tobacco - 25 cents a pack and a $3,000 fine per "youth smoker" should tobacco companies fail to halve youth smoking in four years, a retrogressive tax which will take a far greater chunk out of the paychecks of the working class, who spend much more of their income on the nasty habit than do the wealthy. (What next? Shall we fine domestic candy and ice cream manufacturers if the average American kid fails to get skinnier by the year 2004? Would they be allowed to haul in a bunch of emaciated urchins from Bangladesh to make the numbers look better?) And we haven't yet reached the final level of cynicism in this "budget proposal." For Bill Clinton knows full well such a gargantuan "wish list" of welfare-state candy and snow cones (senior citizens want free prescription medicines? Let the line form on the left!) will be dead on arrival in the Republican Congress. In fact, he's counting on it. Having avoided all the hard, responsible choices, the president now dares the GOP to spend only 96 percent, only 98 percent, only 99.9 percent of the money here requested. Then the scene will be set for Al Gore's Democrats on the campaign trail next fall to revile the Republican opposition as "hard-hearted misers, who would rip the food and medicine out of the mouths of the very widows and orphans!" Once more, Mr. Clinton has made it clear that even to "new" Democrats, the care and feeding of the bureaucracy is more important than allowing American families to keep, spend, and invest the sweat of their brow. The question is: Will it work yet again? Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. His new book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available at $24.95 postpaid from Mountain Media, P.O. 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