From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #323 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Monday, March 27 2000 Volume 02 : Number 323 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 00 22:26:31 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Living Drech >From now on, if anyone tries to tell you that the Constitution is not an Absolute Contract, but rather a, "Living Document", whose meaning is subject to change, blow them out of the water with the following Legal Referent. The reference comes thanks to: C. D. Tavares Tavares@alum.mit.edu | http://home.earthlink.net/~cdtavares | RKBA! The Constitution is a written instrument. As such, its meaning does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it means now. - -- SOUTH CAROLINA v. US, 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905) - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:17:44 -0800 From: skip Subject: Re: Living Drech Bill Vance wrote: > > >From now on, if anyone tries to tell you that the Constitution is not an > Absolute Contract, but rather a, "Living Document", whose meaning is subject > to change, blow them out of the water with the following Legal Referent. > > The reference comes thanks to: C. D. Tavares > > Tavares@alum.mit.edu | http://home.earthlink.net/~cdtavares | RKBA! > > The Constitution is a written instrument. As such, its meaning > does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it > means now. > -- SOUTH CAROLINA v. US, 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905) > And we could (and should) add to that quote, for the benefit of the "living document" crowd, "If you don't agree with what the constitution says, amend it - if you can - but we won't stand for ignoring it or regarding it as a ball of fluff to be shaped to support passing fancies." Skip - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 00 10:54:43 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: more gun poll (fwd) On Mar 24, pukanecz@exchange.vt.edu wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] http://news.excite.com/news/poll/ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 00 10:56:13 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [slick-d] Fwd: Upcoming Vote on WTO Withdrawal! (fwd) On Mar 24, Charles F. Nawrocki wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] //// SENT FYI ////// Please read and write your letters to Congress. Lets get rid of the WTO./////////// /////// REMEMBER SEATTLE////////// Let your voice be heard,///////// >To: alerts@jbs.org >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:37:28 -0500 >Subject: Upcoming Vote on WTO Withdrawal! >From: alerts@jbs.org > >The John Birch Society Action Network Alert! >March 23, 2000 > >Upcoming Vote on WTO Withdrawal! > >Action Needed: Write to your representative and both of your senators >demanding that they vote in favor of H.J.Res. 90, a bill to get the U.S. >out of the dangerous World Trade Organization. Also, get your friends, >neighbors and associates to do the same. > >Status: A floor vote before the full House and Senate is a virtual >certainty by the first week of June. Under rules set up by the original >WTO agreement, the House and Senate must consider legislation under >privileged procedures that all but guarantee a vote within (approximately) >90 days of introduction of the bill. > >Summary: If passed, this bill would get the United States completely out >of the World Trade Organization. Like most good legislation, H.J.Res. 90 >is short. Here is the entire text of the bill: > >"Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States >of America in Congress assembled, That the Congress withdraws its >approval, provided under section 101(a) of the Uruguay Round Agreements >Act, of the WTO Agreement as defined in section 2(9) of that Act." > > >Resources: >1. Interview of Rep. Ron Paul on H.J.Res. 90 in upcoming April 24, 2000 >issue of The New American: >http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2000/04-24-2000/vo16no09_wto.htm > >2. "Trading Away Our Sovereignty" by Thomas R. Eddlem: >http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1994/vo10no05.htm > >3. For a complete analysis of the WTO please go to: >http://www.thenewamerican.com/focus/trade/index.htm > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To subscribe or unsubscribe from this email network go to: >http://www.jbs.org/emailfrm.htm >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >The John Birch Society >http://www.jbs.org [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 00 11:14:02 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: Living Drech On Mar 24, skip wrote: >Bill Vance wrote: >> >> >From now on, if anyone tries to tell you that the Constitution is not an >> Absolute Contract, but rather a, "Living Document", whose meaning is subject >> to change, blow them out of the water with the following Legal Referent. >> >> The reference comes thanks to: C. D. Tavares >> >> Tavares@alum.mit.edu | http://home.earthlink.net/~cdtavares | RKBA! >> >> The Constitution is a written instrument. As such, its meaning >> does not alter. That which it meant when it was adopted, it >> means now. >> -- SOUTH CAROLINA v. US, 199 U.S. 437, 448 (1905) >> > >And we could (and should) add to that quote, for the benefit of the >"living document" crowd, "If you don't agree with what the constitution >says, amend it - if you can - but we won't stand for ignoring it or >regarding it as a ball of fluff to be shaped to support passing >fancies." > >Skip AMEN! - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Mar 00 23:08:32 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [newsucanuse] VIN -- hairdressers as snitches (fwd) On Mar 24, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz Watch what you tell your hairdresser Hairdressers "are often confidantes for many people," explains Veronica Boyd-Frenkel, Nevada's "domestic violence ombudsman" ... whatever that is. "They may hear things even someone's best friend may not hear and they might notice injuries," Ms. Boyd-Frenkel continues, explaining why the state of Nevada -- which licenses hairdressers through the Board of Cosmetology -- is now launching a series of training seminars designed to help hairdressers recognize the signs of domestic abuse, and even hopes to "integrate the training into beauty school classes" required by state law. In addition to listening closely, the hairdressers would now be expected to watch for those telltale signs -- a bump, a bruise, a missing clump of hair -- and heaven help the husband of a woman who banged her head in a fender-bender yesterday. "They don't necessarily have to be counselors," explains Ms. Boyd-Frenkel, soothingly, "but we're trying to help them be a referral source for these victims." With training being provided by the state attorney general's office? The last time I checked, bartenders used to hear a lot of complaints about marital troubles, too. Shall they now be required to take government courses on how to "snitch out" their customers to those enforcing the domestic abuse laws -- hey, maybe even the child support laws? Domestic battery is a serious matter. Mind you, it can be just as potent a threat to the sanctity of our families when "child welfare" snoops start pre-emptively pulling children out of homes because the baby-sitter reported "unexplained bruises." I grow a bit tired of "dad" always be presumed guilty. But of course a real victim of abuse and battery should be urged to remove herself from such an environment, and then to seek legal assistance. Beating people up is a crime. Nonetheless, one suspects Nevada's state Board of Cosmetology -- which heretofore has been nothing but an unnecessary protection racket, limiting unwelcome, lower-cost competition for the state's existing beauty salons -- is merely hunting here for another way to justify its existence. Once we start down this road, shall we also require garage mechanics to report any sign that a car has been driven above the speed limit -- threatening to "pull their mechanics' licenses" if they don't comply? Yes, yes, everything will be "according to their judgment." But look at the FDIC regulations which call for bank employees to "use their judgment" in reporting to the IRS or DEA any large cash transaction which "looks suspicious." Rather than risk the appearance of complicity, the "default setting" in our banks is now to require everyone making a $5,000 cash withdrawal to "fill out the forms." Isn't it? This latest "turn in your customer" program is modeled after one in Connecticut, we're told. Oh, good choice. Connecticut, the only state in the union that now encourages anonymous callers to turn in their neighbors for owning firearms -- perfectly legal firearms -- whereupon the police will go to that gun-owner's home, seize the weapons, and hold them while investigating the neighbor's worries that the law-abiding gun-owner "might be dangerous." (A Bridgeport man who lives with his mother became the first victim of the new law, last fall. The weapons seized included heirlooms that had been in the family for generations.) If Ms. Boyd-Frenkel wants to urge hair salons to put up signs with the state's domestic violence "800-number" help line, well and good. But we do not need state agencies training citizens after the model of the East German Stasi, which ended up with fully one third of the nation snitching on the other two-thirds. Let us not forget the "well-meaning experts" who interviewed children with the aid of anatomically correct dolls, refusing to take "no" for an answer and eliciting from those reluctant children bizarre tales of animal sacrifice and sex abuse, with the result that dozens of innocent day care workers were jailed in rampant child-abuse witch hunts in this very country, not 20 years ago. Though hardly infallible -- see above -- police psychologists and domestic violence counselors are called professionals because they've received hundreds of hours of intensive training, been subjected to rigorous examinations, and hopefully even been taught about "look-alike" symptoms which may result from little-known medical conditions, or situations in which the courts have ruled the state simply has no right to interfere with a family's privacy. Hairdressers are fine people, but very few have had this kind of training. They should not be encouraged to assume this role, based on some ill-considered quickie "course" forced on them by a government board that holds the power to suspend their "license" to make a living. Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. His new book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement," is available by dialing 1-800-244-2224; or via web site http://www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html. *** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - If you have subscribed to vinsends@ezlink.com and you wish to unsubscribe, send a message to vinsends-request@ezlink.com, from your OLD address, including the word "unsubscribe" (with no quotation marks) in the "Subject" line. To subscribe, send a message to vinsends-request@ezlink.com, from your NEW address, including the word "subscribe" (with no quotation marks) in the "Subject" line. 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[------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 00 09:38:14 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [slick-d] IRS cooperates for global taxation (fwd) On Mar 24, lecapra8@centurytel.net wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] First paragraph of instruction form for IRS Form 8822 (Change of Address) "Privacy Act and Paperwork Reduction Act Notice We ask for this information to carry out the Internal Revenue Laws of the United States. We may give the information to the Department of Justice and to other Federal agencies, as provided by law. We may also give it to cities, states, the District of Columbia, and U.S. commonwealths or possessions to carry out their tax laws. And we may give it to foreign governments because of tax treaties they have with the United States." Excuse me! Foreign governments? Tax treaties? For a planned UN tax maybe?, to support global occupation/intervention troops, maybe? (Expletive deleted) Disturbed citizen. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 00 11:19:22 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: AMERICAN FREEDOM QUIZ (fwd) On Mar 25, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] > From: "Victor Forsythe" > > AMERICAN FREEDOM QUIZ > > 1. Which one of the following countries recently voided an election and > threatened to arrest local officials who attempt to implement voter approved > initiatives? > > A. North Korea > B. China > C. Russia > D. United States of America > > 2. Which of the following countries is the ONLY country that allows > police to jail sick people and keep their property? > > A. China > B. Somalia > C. Cuba > D. United States of America > > 3. Which of the following countries is the ONLY country that sends > police into schools to indoctrinate students and urge them to turn in > parents who may be using unapproved medicines? > > A. China > B. Afghanistan > C. Iran > D. United States of America > > 4. Amnesty International recently identified which country as a major > violator of human rights and one of the worst countries in the world > with respect to abuse of women prisoners. > > A. China > B. Somalia > C. Cuba > D. United States of America > > 5. Current U.S. drug policy is failing, drugs are cheaper and more > plentiful than ever, our jails are at 200% occupancy and sick people are > being persecuted and for what reason? > > A. Our drug laws were written by drunks. > B. The Alcohol Industry spends $1.5 billion per year on advertising. > C. Partnership for a Drug Free America is a PAC for the liquor lobby. > D. All of the above. > > 6. The official U.S. policy towards sick and dying people who use > medical marijuana includes which tactics? > > A. Arrest and treat as criminals, regardless of medical documentation. > B. Seize all medicine and assets; destroy all plants. > C. Use high bails and conspiracy charges to coerce plea bargains. > D. All of the above > > 7. It's been 2 1/2 years since the passage of Prop. 215; what has > changed? > > A. Marijuana arrests have gone UP. > B. Sick and dying patients are being arrested in record numbers. > C. Not one county or state agency has implemented Prop. 215. > D. All of the above. > > 8. How does the War on Drugs differ from all other wars? > > A. The goal isn't territory or property but behavior control. > B. It's a war without end, against our own citizens. > C. Sick and dying people are denied humanitarian rights and jailed > instead. > D. All of the above. > > 9. Separation of Church and State has been interpreted by U.S. officials to > mean that government can do what? > > A. Adopt Puritanism as the official state religion > B. Decide what substances are good and which are bad. > C. Jail, rob and humiliate anyone who uses any substance deemed harmful. > D. All of the above. > > 10. George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both grew over 100 acres of > hemp. > How would these two Founding Fathers be punished today for growing this much > hemp? > > A. No punishment, since hemp is has very little THC and won't get you > high. > B. No punishment, since growing a plant in an inalienable right. > C. Some punishment since it violates the Controlled Substances Act. > D. Life in Prison > > 11. Although President Clinton and many prominent U.S. officials have > admitted to trying marijuana, how many Americans have been arrested, > strip-searched, finger-printed and publicly humiliated for the same > thing? > > A. None > B. Some > C. 100,000 > D. Over 1 million > > 12. According to estimates from various human rights organizations, how many > children have been legally orphaned from their incarcerated parent(s) by > America's War on Drugs? > > A. None > B. Some > C. 100,000 > D. Over 1 million > > Answers: The correct answer to each of the questions is "D" > > > Angelmans Heaven: > www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/4124/index1.html > My homepage > http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/AquariusAve/angelman3/index.html > My newsgroup. To subscribe, send blank email to: > 1wonderswhy-subscribe@onelist.com > > Help Stop Domestic Violence - Get the government out of our bedroom. Lets > talk about it > to subscribe, send blank email to: > stopfamilyviolence-subscribe@onelist.com > > > AIM: vegivic > ICQ: 3687739 > > "If there are no miracles in your life, something is wrong." [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 00 11:37:49 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: FWD: -3- Tax-free Education Savings for K-12; GrandParents can contribute, too (fwd) On Mar 25, by way of Josephine Lindsay Bass wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] >From: Concerned Women for America >Reply-To: ean@www.cwfa.org >To: "TheBridger@hotmail.com" >Subject: Education Savings Accolunts >Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:29:56 -0500 > >C o n c e r n e d W o m e n f o r A m e r i c a >the nation's largest public policy women's organization > >Friday, March 24, 2000 > > >Dear Friends, > >We have several important items to bring to your attention: > > >2. Education Savings Accounts > >The House is expected to vote on H.R. 7, The Education Savings and >School Excellence Act of 1999 (ESA), as early as Wednesday, March 29. >H.R. 7 would expand current education IRA contribution limits from >$500 to $2000 per year. > ESAs would allow families to save their own hard-earned money >in a tax-free IRA to pay for their children s educational expenses >for grades K-12 at public, private, religious and home schools. This >bill would also allow grandparents, mentors, concerned citizens, >corporations and non-profits to contribute as well. > >Please contact your representative and urge him or her to >vote for H.R. 7. You can do this at: >http://congress.nw.dc.us/cgi-bin/alertpr.pl?dir=cwfa&alert=5 > >Thank you! > >CWA's Legislation Department >http://legislation.cwfa.org/ > >__________ >__________ Current News >A direct correlation exists between the quality of education and >student behavior. Legislators, school board members and administrators are >taking great strides to become proactive; they are anticipating and >monitoring behavioral problems and preventing violence in our schools. >http://cwfa.org/library/education/2000-03-15_s-safety >_____ > >Attention Students: Come to Washington for an Internship, or compete >for a scholarship! Find out more: >http://cwfa.org/about/student > > >Concerned Women for America >1015 15th St. NW >Suite 1100 >Washington, DC 20005 >http://cwfa.org/ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 00 11:20:17 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [newsucanuse] VIN-- Eisenhower (fwd) On Mar 25, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] FROM MOUNTAIN MEDIA FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE DATED MARCH 24, 2000 THE LIBERTARIAN, By Vin Suprynowicz The Eisenhower enigma When Robert A. Taft stepped aside (more's the pity) in 1952 and allowed Dwight David Eisenhower to claim the GOP presidential nomination unchallenged, it was only on Eisenhower's personal promise, man-to-man, that Eisenhower would keep GOP platform promises (dating back to '36) to roll back the Roosevelt welfare state, and especially that he would trim back the harmful misallocation of resources to the massive peacetime military-industrial complex. Eisenhower broke those promises with a sneer. Though no one would have taken the general for a member of the Psychic Friends Network, he did have sufficient military experience -- with an emphasis on production capacity and logistics -- to have applied at least (start ital)some(end ital) skepticism to the vastly overblown CIA estimates that Russia (by then a slave state held together with baling wire and patch-welds) was about to become more economically powerful than the U.S. Yet Eisenhower remains a curiously ominous figure, passively stroking his putter (at best) while red-baiters like Nixon and Tailgunner Joe McCarthy savaged the First Amendment, and the Dulles brothers busied themselves overturning elected regimes and installing puppet tinpot dictators from Tehran to Managua. This is not to minimize the evils of communism -- that regime of mass slavery and organized murder now stands hideously exposed, and with it every fellow traveler who ever grabbed for the fig leaves of "socialism," "progressivism," and "modest agrarian reform." But who can yet measure the long-term results of turning this country, in the minds of an (initially) disbelieving world, from the Font of Freedom into The Cloaked Assassin in the Night? At the very least, I believe we can thank Ike for today's familiar and oppressive regime of airport metal detectors and strip-searches, fobbed off as "protection" against the hobgoblin of "international terrorism." Has anyone bothered to simply ask these (rare) rascals why they hate us? Most importantly, Eisenhower made no efforts (that I've been able to discern) to roll back the Roosevelt New Deal and implode some of its most counterproductive agencies, at precisely the time that a booming post-war economy and a public desire "to get back to normal" created the best historical opportunity to do so. I blame Nixon and Ford and even Reagan for not doing more to roll back Washington City's burgeoning and extraconstitutional welfare/police state. But at least they had the excuse that "These agencies have been entrenched for 40 years. Their unionized employees now elect congressmen. Get real." Eisenhower had no such excuse. Why should we assume Americans wouldn't have (start ital)welcomed(end ital) an announcement, shortly after the end of the Korean War, from Ike the calm and reassuring father-figure, that "The Great Depression is over. The Second World War is over. Even granting that our late, great leader President Roosevelt meant well and did the best he could in our time of trial, the voters have now rejected his faction and its collectivist, interventionist legacy. Just as we returned to normal in 1919, let us now systematically close down most of these dated Depression-era federal agencies of Messrs. Hoover and Roosevelt, with all their taxes and regulations so foreign to a free, peacetime America ..." If Harding and Coolidge deserve credit for rolling back many of the dangerous and unconstitutional usurpations of the "Progressive" Wilson era (I recently asked historian Jeff Hummel, author of "Emancipating Slaves, Enslaving Free Men," who lists Eisenhower among the nation's 10 greatest presidents) why not hold Eisenhower responsible for failing to do the same in 1953-1956, when the best opportunity presented itself? This week, Mr. Hummel replied: "Taft indeed would probably have been a much more libertarian president than Eisenhower (though the comparison of Jefferson out of office and in office reminds us that our expectations can always be disappointed). I give Eisenhower high marks nonetheless primarily for his foreign policy, which you know I weight heavily. He ended the Korean war, as he promised. Less well known is his impact on real military spending. ... "There are other ways in which Eisenhower moved to ease Cold War tensions (such as Summit meetings), all of which were reversed under Kennedy. Eisenhower also refused to get the U.S. too involved in Vietnam at the time of the French defeat. "Yes, with respect to domestic policy, Eisenhower didn't do enough to roll back the New Deal. But at least there were few new statist initiatives, as there had been under Truman and would be again under Kennedy-Johnson. (The two worst exceptions are the acts creating the Interstate highway system and federal aid to education, both passed as Cold War defense initiatives)," Mr. Hummel continued. "Remember finally that these ratings are relative. Whom besides those I've put in the top 9 would you rank above Eisenhower? Your previous suggestion of Andrew Johnson is actually a strong one, because he did preside over significant post-Civil War demobilization. Yet he had almost no influence on that, while at the same time he encouraged the southern states to set up their heinous system of Black Codes for the freed slaves. Not only was that a gross violation of civil liberties in and of itself, but it also fostered the backlash of Republican Reconstruction." Vin Suprynowicz is assistant editorial page editor of the Las Vegas Review-Journal. His book, "Send in the Waco Killers: Essays on the Freedom Movement, 1993-1998," is available at $24.95 postpaid by dialing 1-800-244-2224; or via web site http://www.thespiritof76.com/wacokillers.html. *** Vin Suprynowicz, vin@lvrj.com "The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it." -- John Hay, 1872 "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed -- and thus clamorous to be led to safety -- by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -- H.L. Mencken * * * To subscribe, send a message to vinsends-request@ezlink.com, from your NEW address, including the word "subscribe" (with no quotation marks) in the "Subject" line. All I ask of electronic subscribers is that they not RE-forward my columns until on or after the embargo date which appears at the top of each, and that (should they then choose to do so) they copy the columns in their entirety, preserving the original attribution. The Vinsends list is maintained by Alan Wendt in Colorado, who may be reached directly at alan@ezlink.com. The web sites for the Suprynowicz column are at http://www.infomagic.com/liberty/vinyard.htm, and http://www.nguworld.com/vindex. The Vinyard is maintained by Michael Voth in Flagstaff, who may be reached directly at mvoth@infomagic.com. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Mar 00 23:32:06 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [slick-d] Fwd: Great News! (fwd) On Mar 25, DBuhlman@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] From: "Matthew J. Glavin" To: Subject: Great News! Dear David Buhlman, Great News! The Arkansas Supreme Court Committee on Professional Conduct has made April 21, 2000 the deadline for Bill Clinton to respond to the Southeastern Legal Foundation's charges that he is unfit to be a lawyer. It looks like President Clinton's stonewalling on his Arkansas ethics proceeding could finally come to an end. Southeastern Legal Foundation first filed the complaint with the Arkansas ethics committee in September of 1998. Bill Clinton's friends and cronies in Arkansas sat on the complaint until SLF went to the Arkansas Supreme Court last December and asked for and received a court order directing the state ethics committee take action. Absent this SLF action, the ethics committee would not have proceeded. Because of this court order obtained by Southeastern Legal Foundation, the committee eventually initiated the disciplinary process against the President and ordered him to respond to the allegations against him. Predictably, the President asked that the ethics committee doing nothing until after he left office. But now the Committee on Professional Conduct has denied the President's request and ordered that he must respond to Southeastern Legal Foundation's allegations by April 21st. This could be the first time in Bill Clinton's presidency that he pays a tangible price for his illegal behavior. For once, the rules that apply to every other lawyer will also apply to William Jefferson Clinton. But I know that Bill Clinton won't take this lying down. That's why the Southeastern Legal Foundation must be ready to continue to fight Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton has always regarded himself as considerably more equal than the rest of us when it comes to having to obey the rule of law. He will certainly fight any disciplinary action. So far, SLF has spent more than $120,000 to get the case this far. We are going to need at least $48,000 to cover the legal expenses through the important April 21 deadline. And I need your help at this crucial time. Do you think you could send a contribution at this time, David Buhlman? If you could send $50, $100, $250, $500 or even $1000, it would go a long way toward paying the high costs of making sure that Bill Clinton obeys the same rules as every other lawyer. Money is urgently needed and that is why I'm asking that you reply immediately to this email appeal. What ever amount you can give, $100, $250, $500 or $30 or $50 if that is all that is possible right now, will be gratefully accepted. Please reply right now - while you are thinking about it. Sincerely yours, Matthew J. Glavin President Southeastern Legal Foundation <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> DISBAR CLINTON ONLINE CONTRIBUTION FORM http://www.southeasternlegal.org/ndccontribute.htm?L=DB5327&P=0A578X AOL Friendly Link: Disbar Clinton Contribution <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ================================================================ If you would like to unsubscribe from the Southeastern Legal Foundation Action Updates or update your e-mail address please visit our website at the link provided below: http://www.southeasternlegal.org/userprofile.htm?L=DB5327&P=0A578X&A=117 AOL Users: Unsubscribe or Change E-mail ================================================================ [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Mar 00 13:25:56 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: [slickmisc] THE POT CALLS THE KETTLE BIGOTED (fwd) On Mar 27, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] From the Home of Rich & Peggy Martin Grand Prairie, TX 75050 RichSlick@aol.com It's nice to be important, but it's important to be nice. _______________________________________________ INTRODUCTORY COMMENTARY What the hell is going on with our country? Religious Wars! Why are we refighting the battles won/lost in the 15th century? I suspect We the People aren't, however, there are certain politicians among us trying to rekindle the flames of hatred. And I suspect, they have a lot of help in the mass media. Rich Martin Editor of Slick > THE POT CALLS THE KETTLE BIGOTED > > By J. Peter Mulhern > > > The House of Representatives has a new chaplain and he's a > Catholic priest. For months Democrats have been attacking the > House Republican leadership for passing over a Catholic in favor > of a Presbyterian. This, they claimed, was proof of bigotry in > high places. This week the Presbyterian withdrew his name from > further consideration and Father Daniel Coughlin was sworn in as > the new House Chaplain. > > Democrats reported that some members of the selection committee > that vetted applicants for the chaplaincy said they would be > "uncomfortable" with a chaplain who dressed as a Roman Catholic > priest. They also allege that someone on the committee wanted to > know how an unmarried Catholic priest could "show that he was > moral," > > On these extremely thin grounds, Democrats tried to whip up > sectarian hostility to use as a weapon in their war for control > of the House. Father Andrew Greeley, the left-wing Catholic > priest, academic, and best-selling author revealed the political > purpose of fighting over the religious affiliation of the House > chaplain when he was interviewed on a National Public Radio > call-in chat show. When a caller asked what citizens could do to > fight against benighted attitudes toward the Catholic Church and > its faithful Father Greeley said "vote Democratic," > > John McCain's campaign field tested the bigotry theme for > Democrats. That theme crashed and burned in Republican > primaries, but Democrats plainly haven't given up on it yet. > They hope it can help them win back the House majority they still > believe to be theirs by divine right. > > This is not the politics of personal destruction. It is the > politics of societal destruction. > > Mutual suspicion and hostility have marked relations between > Catholics and Protestants since the schism that separated them in > the Sixteenth Century. The wounds run very deep; the scars can > still be seen in the new world. > > Enlightenment anti-clericalism was part of this country's > founding philosophy. American Protestants come by a certain > discomfort with Catholic clergy honestly. Nobody can entirely > transcend their roots. > > The suggestion that a reluctance to appoint Catholic clergy to > the House chaplaincy reveals bigotry is absurd. At most > Democrats have shown that some powerful Republicans are also > Evangelical Protestants who are conscious of the cultural and > historical rift that divides them from the Catholic Church. The > flap over a new Chaplain for the House is nothing but an > opportunity for Democrats to send a coded message to American > Catholics -- "You don't really like these Evangelicals and they > don't really like you. The Republican Party is their party and > you should have no part of it," > > There is nothing righteous about this message. It is a form of > hate speech, an unvarnished appeal to primitive tribal prejudice. > Democrats are betting that the embers of sectarian strife can be > fanned into flame even in a nation as placid as the United > States. Their bet probably won't pay off, but the fact that they > are placing it at all is revealing. > > Any winning Republican coalition will depend on a strong vote > from Americans who take their religion seriously. The Republican > Party is at least slightly less eager to embrace social > deterioration than is the Democratic Party. Religious people > tend toward social conservatism. Social conservatives may not > find a happy home with the Republicans, but there is no room for > them at all in Democrat ranks. > > In the United States people who take their religion seriously > fall into one of two groups. They are either Protestant or > Catholic. (Let's stipulate that our gorgeous mosaic includes > Jews, Muslims, Hindus etc. No non-Christian religious group is > large enough to be worth pursuing in a general election > campaign). If Democrats can drive a wedge between Protestants, > particularly Evangelicals, and Catholics so that neither group is > comfortable in a political alliance with the other, the > Republican Party will cease to be a serious competitor for > national leadership. The House would once more be in Democrat > hands and likely to remain so. > > This end seems to Democrats good enough to justify flirting with > the sort of religious division that has made Northern Ireland > such a happy place. It isn't just the Republican Party that > depends on a truce between Evangelicals and Catholics. The > entire country depends on that truce. The American willingness > to leave religious blood feuds in the Old World has contributed > greatly to our happiness and prosperity. Democrats are messing > about with powerful forces they understand dimly if they > understand them at all. > > The great irony in all this is that Evangelicals and Catholics > have every reason to unite in the face of a common enemy. The > Democratic Party comes close to being the institutional > embodiment of that enemy. Protestants who are annoyed by > "popery" pose no threat to the Catholic Church. Secular > modernity, on the other hand, poses a serious threat to the > Catholic Church and to every other religious institution. The > Democratic Party proudly acts as the political arm of secular > modernity in America. > > This is apparent in a range of social issues. From abortion to > homosexual rights the Democratic Party is arrayed against > religious and moral orthodoxy. It is also hostile to most forms > of cooperation between spiritual and civil authority. This is > most apparent in connection with education policy. > > Close allies of the Democratic Party make their antipathy for the > Catholic Church quite explicit. Several loyally Democratic > organizations that exist to promote abortion are agitating to > have the Vatican expelled from the United Nations in an effort to > muffle Catholic moral teachings and reduce the Church's influence > on international institutions. > > Catholics who care about their faith and their Church should > reject the Democrat effort to exploit ancient sectarian > hostilities. There's far more at stake here than a sinecure at > the House of Representatives. > > > J. Peter Mulhern can be reached at jpmulh@aol.com > > > > Published in the Mar. 27, 2000 issue of The Washington Weekly > Copyright 2000 The Washington Weekly. > Now Free Access to All Stories at http://www.federal.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #323 *************************