From: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com (roc-digest) To: roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Subject: roc-digest V2 #367 Reply-To: roc-digest Sender: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Errors-To: owner-roc-digest@lists.xmission.com Precedence: bulk roc-digest Thursday, July 20 2000 Volume 02 : Number 367 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Jul 00 22:34:20 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Gun Controllers Hate Women (fwd) On Jul 14, Swftl@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Gun Controllers Hate Women by Emily "X" Gun controllers hate women. They know that personal firearms have the reputation as "the great equalizer," enabling women to defend themselves in life-threatening situations against assailants that are undoubtedly bigger and stronger than they are. It appears that at least a few have found a way around having to deal with this contradiction to their agenda: labeling any woman who wants effective self-defense as "sick" and "paranoid" and engaging in "the fantasy of killing a bad-guy, antisocial, murderous, rapist intruder." Welcome to the modern version of the old misogynistic rape advice, "just lay back and enjoy it" that is now being promoted by the anti-self-defense advocates. In an attempt to promote their agenda, they resort to minimizing the threat to women, telling us that "it's all in your imagination." Just how imaginary is it? According to crime statistics, about 1 in 4 women will be raped during her lifetime. Some small percentage of them will be murdered in the course of the rape. A larger percentage will experience attempted murder. Women on the average are about 30 pounds lighter than men. They have about 60% of the muscle mass, which means that not only are they smaller, but they have considerably less muscle mass per pound. Women have a serious strength disadvantage when dealing with just a single male assailant. So what can a gun controller offer to offset this disparity? Martial arts? Ignoring for a moment that it's not appropriate for young girls, disabled women, and many older women, it takes years of practice to become proficient enough to defend oneself against a single large attacker. The victim disarmers who suggest this alternative want women to spend hours every week practicing martial arts rather than spend the time building their careers or spending time with their families or having a social life like normal people do. Stun guns? Pepper spray? Both of these require accurate use and have little or no effect on some people. Worse yet, a woman has to be close to the assailant to use them. By the time she discovers that they don't work, there's often no alternate defense left. Baseball bats? Knives? These depend on raw physical strength. The gun controller might as well just come out and tell women to "just to lay back and enjoy it." The statistical reality is that "shall issue" states, those that issue a concealed carry permit to any law-abiding citizen who asks for one, show a lower rape incidence than states where concealed carry permits are difficult or impossible to obtain. The victim disarmers claim that it's just because those states would have had a lower rate anyway. This claim has been proven false: those states which convert to "shall issue" status show a concomitant decrease in the rape rate. Places which take a proactive stance to promote gun ownership among women show a much greater decrease in the rape rate. A dramatic decrease occurred when the Orlando, Florida police, very concerned about the city's skyrocketing rape rates, instituted a program to train tens of thousands of women in the safe use of handguns. The rape rate decreased 88%. The problem with using statistics in proving how effective firearms are in women's self-defense is that those statistics don't have a face. Those who want women to be defenseless don't have to acknowledge the terrible consequences hiding behind each number. Few women come forward and ever admit that they've been raped. But they are everywhere. They are mothers, sisters, friends, coworkers, neighbors. They are the human face to the rape epidemic that the gun controllers condone. And they are the ones who survived. I understand what it means to be defenseless and on the receiving end of criminal violence. I am among those 1 in 4 women. When I was attacked, I fought back by hitting the rapist and kneeing him in the crotch. Enraged by my resistance, he tried to strangle me and almost succeeded. Like most women, I had poor chances against a man who outweighed me by 60 pounds and who was in very good physical condition. Had I possessed adequate means of self-defense, there would have been much less chance that I would have spent a week in the hospital recovering from the physical injuries and years recovering from the psychological trauma. I had done what some of the victim-disarmers propose: I took a self-defense class only a few months before this occurred. It obviously wasn't enough. And no police or other cavalry came riding in over the horizon to stop it either. The rapist was never caught. Since rape has the highest recidivism rate of any violent crime, this criminal has probably gone on to rape and perhaps murder other women. He certainly demonstrated that he was capable of murder, and the normal pattern for rapists is to increase the brutality of their attacks with each succeeding rape. I don't engage in idle fantasies about "killing bad-guy, antisocial, murderous, rapist intruders." I don't have to. I've lived the real-life horror of having a rapist try to kill me, and I well understand that sometimes it's necessary to kill an attacker to save one's own life. Statistically, the great majority of the time it isn't necessary since the mere display of a firearm is enough to stop an attacker, which puts the lie to the victim-disarmer's accusations. But when it is necessary, whose life is more valuable? My life, or that of a rapist/murderer? The women who die as a result of rapists' attacks usually don't count to the gun controllers, since they're usually beaten to death, or strangled, or knifed. But the few cases of rape fatalities that do count to the gun controllers are those where a woman shoots an attacker, because all deaths by "gun violence" matter. By counting the deaths of those engaged in criminal activity and using them to disarm potential victims, the gun controllers morally condone the rape and murder of women. They write off the tens of millions of women who spend years traumatized, whose lives are forever negatively altered, who have a hard time establishing normal relationships with anyone else in the human race just to promote their agenda. And that's one of the dirty little secrets that the gun control advocates never own up to: that gun control inevitably disarms those who need good self-defense the most. Women are being systematically and disproportionately deprived of the means of self-defense through the imposition of ever-higher barriers and requirements and regulations. This is the proven outcome of such policies. And that makes gun control advocates aiders and abettors to those who prey on women. It's way past time that the victim disarmers are forced to recognize the terrible consequences of their proposals and their regulations. It is abhorrent that they are proposing that thousands of women "invisibly" die because they should be denied access to effective self-defense. It is abhorrent that they are proposing that dozens of women's lives are worth one rapist's life. It is abhorrent that they are proposing that a huge class of people accept systematic victimization just because of their size disadvantage. Anyone making such proposals should never be in any position of power in a civilized society. ========================================= Liz Michael www.lizmichael.com - Political Activism For The Liberation Of The World VP of Operations, Analon Computers - www.analon.com P.O. Box 546, Glendale CA 91209 Join the Unorganized Militia group at egroups: Subscribe at: unorganizedmilitia-subscribe@egroups.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 00 22:33:15 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Is "Know Your Customer" back? (fwd) On Jul 14, Bob Mueller wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,37566,00.html Financial Privacy Under Attack? by Declan McCullagh 3:00 a.m. Jul. 14, 2000 PDT WASHINGTON -- Opposition to a bill that would limit Americans' financial privacy appears to be growing. A coalition of liberal, conservative, and libertarian groups wants the House leadership to delay a vote on a proposal to grant the U.S. government broader surveillance authority over some banking transactions. The Clinton administration drafted the anti-money-laundering bill, which received the backing of Representative Jim Leach (R-Iowa), the chairman of the House Banking Committee. The committee approved the bill on June 8 and forwarded it to the House floor for a vote scheduled next week. The growing debate over the bill pits two powerful factions against each other: Law enforcement officials claim more financial monitoring of Americans is necessary to thwart drug-related money laundering, while civil libertarians say that the proposed legislation is too extreme and privacy rights should prevail. "People are becoming aware of this systematic attack on our privacy," says Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas), who unsuccessfully tried to attach pro-privacy amendments to the bill while it was in committee. Introduced in March, the International Counter-Money Laundering Act allows the Treasury Department to require banks to report "suspicious" financial transactions involving other countries. That can happen if the Feds find "any such jurisdiction, institution, or transaction to be of primary money laundering concern." Bob Mueller Legalize Freedom RKBA! [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jul 00 08:19:55 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: More on NEA, Unions Dues and the RKBA (sorry - Long!) (fwd) On Jul 15, Jurist wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Bridgette et al, A few days ago your message (below) was forwarded to a Right to Keep and Bear Arms (RKBA) listserv. Although you are a teacher and the subject matter concerned NEA union activities, the NEA was diverting funds and energy to attack lawful firearms ownership in the US. I am forwarding excerpts of a message sent out by Weldon Clark concerning the NEA, and more importantly, some contact information to organizations which deal with your type of case. ================ ORIGINAL MESSAGE ================= >I am a teacher and against my will I am an NEA member. I saw the fax alert from the NRA regarding the NEA's resolution to circulate petition asking for more gun control. I went to the site itself to check on it and here it is: >NEW BUSINESS ITEM B >Adopted >Move that the National Education Association prepare and distribute to each of its affiliates, a petition calling for meaningful gun control. Each affiliate will be asked to circulate said petitions to NEA on or before January 15, 2001. The completed pet to Congress on or before February 1, 2001. >What could teachers do about this and is it even legal for a union to be involved in political business? They will be using NEA union dues to copy, distribute and promote a political cause. Please let me know what we can do about this idiocy. >Bridgette A. Yates >rasoodka@hotmail.com ================================= http://www.goldfever.com/profamily/education/index.htm http://www.goldfever.com/profamily/causes/unions.htm ================================= Choose Charity >To inform union members of their right to choose, the Pacific Justice Institute, an independent, non-profit organization, has established an educational project called "Choose Charity." This project exists to help union members learn about and, if inclin >Tired of paying teachers union dues? Great information on teacher unions. http://www.pacificjustice.org/union.html http://www.pacificjustice.org/ ================================= Individual Rights Foundation - - Since joining the IRF in October 1995, Mr. Manshardt has participated as counsel for an ongoing project to protect the First Amendment rights of 700 public school teachers from being compelled to pay union dues for political purposes with which they disagree. In 1996, the IRF won a stunning victory where an independent arbitrator found that the California Teachers Association had improperly charged their objecting non members by over $7 million dollars (In the matter between the California Teachers Association and Affiliated Locals/NEA and Objecting Agency Fee Payers, American Arbitration Association). As of this year, Mr. Manshardt is representing approximately 1200 teachers in arbitration proceedings against the teachers' unions. http://www.cspc.org/irf/ 1-800-752-6562 ext. 212 ================================= Public Service Research Foundation 320-D Maple Avenue East Vienna, Virginia 22180 Phone: (703) 242-3575 Fax: (703) 242-3579 http://www.psrf.org/about.html ================================= National Right to Work Foundation A non-profit organization providing free legal aid nationwide to thousands of employees whose human and civil rights have been violated by compulsory unionism abuses. http://www.nrtw.org/b/nr_25.htm http://www.nrtw.org/ > The law - as held in numerous court decisions - is that in any format where one is required to join a union to keep her job, a teacher (or any other worker) cannot be required to pay for political activity by the union, and has the right to a full re > Unions typically fight like hell on the issue of what percentage of dues goes for anything other than collective bargaining, representation of workers in disputes, and the other things that the worker can legally be forced to fund whether they want to or not. > But the NEA itself has been sued by teachers over this issue. Whether or not they won I don't know - but workers have won such litigation. The place for you to find a pro bono outfit that will represent teachers fed up with NEA's leftist political Matt Maggio, Attorney at Law, Editor and Publisher, http://www.alamanceind.com ALAMANCE INDEPENDENT ================================= Family Research Council http://www.frc.org/issues/educatemain.html ================================= The government school unions have long been one of America's foremost enemies -- not only of constitutional liberty and decent values; but of decent-quality public education itself. Why? * Government school unions spend vast sums of money to protect their monopoly, and to protect mediocre & incompetent teachers from being fired, from having to compete, or from being subject to performance-based pay. In the mammoth L.A. school district, something like 100 teachers were fired over a 10-year period for such behavior as rape, indecent exposure, etc, while not a single teacher was fired for incompetence. * Much of the union money goes, both directly and indirectly, to elect anti-self-defense politicians and to promote gun control. * The government school unions are the lifeblood of the Democratic Party, and the Democratic Party is completely in their pocket. In fact, they're so powerful few Republicans are willing to cross them. The L.A. Daily News recently referred to their influence as a "reign of terror". Destroy the government school unions and the cause of freedom advances by light years. * Because government unions are run by committed leftist ideologues, because parents have little effective control, and because of the nature of government institutions and the type of personnel they attract, many government schools increasingly serve as ideological, spiritual, and even sexual indoctrination centers, whose daily mission is to brainwash kids with anti-American, collectivist, socialist, and even racist propaganda; give condoms to kids as young as 11, urge them to be "open minded" and "explore their sexuality"; get kids to snitch on parents who own guns and on "abusive" parents who dare spank as a form of discipline, pressure parents to put "hyperactive" kids on dangerous mind-altering drugs, punish kids who support the 2nd Amendment, protect violent students from expulsion, and generally undo the nfluence of such subversive institutions as families, churches, synagogues, & Scout Troops. * Money is not the problem. Ten years ago, per-student spending was three times what it was in 1960, pupil-staff ratios had dropped in half, and government school teachers made 50% more than the average worker, yet performance steadily worsened -- to the point that in Los Angeles, government school teachers themselves were twice as likely to send their own kids to private schools as the typical parent. * Since then even more money has been thrown at the problem. Next year California will spend well over 8,000 dollars per student, more than most private schools. The more money we throw at government schools, the worse they get. * Of course, there are many good teachers who support constitutional liberty, but they do not control the government school unions, and they never will. VOUCHERS & EDUCATIONAL CHOICE Various educational choice plans have been proposed in the past 40 years to improve public education. The debate has primarily been around vouchers, which would take some of the per-student money now spent at government schools and et parents spend it at the school of their choice. Private & home schooling would expand, kids would get a better education, and the worst government schools would have to compete, shrink, or disappear. The better government schools need not fret. Parents happy with their schools can leave their kids where they are. California's current voucher initiative would give private schools strong new constitutional protections against government meddling, and, of course, no private school would be required to accept vouchers. Other plans have been proposed, such as David Barulich's innovative concept where parents would actually be paid bonuses based on standardized tests of their kids' performance. From here on I use the term "vouchers" loosely to describe any educational choice plan that lets parents direct taxpayer education dollars to the school of their choice government, private, or religious or that rewards parents based on the educational progress of their children. To see how vouchers harness the power of competition and free enterprise to improve education, consider this analogy to the current government system: Suppose the government taxed everyone heavily to support a government-run car manufacturing system, and gave everyone a new car every few years. None of the workers could be fired, their pay depended solely on seniority, and so performance-based pay was strictly forbidden. If you didn't like the quality or style of your "free", one-size-fits-all government car, you couldn't just take your money to another car company like you can now, because they'd already have your money. Few but the wealthy would be willing to cough up another 20 to 50,000 dollars for a "private car". So you lobby the government to improve quality and offer the style you like. Good luck! The answer would always be some version of "we need more money" (fewer cars built per autoworker, higher pay, nicer factories and buildings, etc.). Every decrease in quality would be hailed as evidence that not enough money was going into car making. Imagine what cars would be like. Naturally, the government school unions are adamantly opposed to vouchers, accurately perceiving them as a threat to their reign of terror. The unions spent something like 16+ million dollars to kill California's 1993 voucher initiative, outspending proponents by an order of magnitude. They killed it by a landslide at a time when few citizens understood the concept. But times have changed. Polls show dramatically increased understanding and support for vouchers, and new voucher initiatives will cost far more to kill. THE OFFENSIVE It's time for the self-defense civil rights movement to support tuition vouchers: 1. Vouchers will improve public education by enabling parents to send their kids to better schools, by forcing government schools to compete, and by giving parents an alternative to government indoctrination centers. To the minimal extent that any harmful government meddling and indoctrination is allowed, parents will tend to send their kids to the schools that tolerate it the least, since those will obviously tend to be the better schools. 2. Even if voucher initiatives lose, government school unions will be forced to spend hundreds of millions of dollars fighting them, money that would otherwise be spent directly or indirectly fighting for gun control and against freedom. Ideally, voucher initiatives should be run in EVERY primary, soaking up government school union money that would otherwise be spent in general elections. 3. Once vouchers begin winning, the government school unions will be destroyed, taking with them the anti-freedom groups' biggest financial base, and the largest built-in source of institutional demand for government meddling in schools. 4. Vouchers will not hurt good teachers. The current system demoralizes teachers by not rewarding excellence. Educational Choice helps good teachers by restoring safety (violent students can be expelled), cutting red tape, encouraging innovation, shifting money from bureaucracy to teaching, creating jobs, and promoting systems that reward excellence. On the other hand, bad teachers will have to improve or get other jobs. Do yourself, the children of America, and your rights a favor: Support educational choice every chance you get. Get informed and write letters to the editor. Volunteer & donate to campaigns. For more information on vouchers, go to www.schoolchoice2000.net . ANOTHER ACHILLEES HEEL: MISUSE OF UNION DUES Employees of unionized industries have several options to prevent all or part of their mandatory union dues from being used to destroy constitutional liberty. 1. Don't join. Employees who refuse to belong to the union can get as much as 30% of their dues refunded. However, many employees still want to belong to the union so they can have a voice. If that is the case: 2. Better yet: Join but object on religious grounds. You have the right to have 100% of your dues redirected to a charity. Often this can be the charity of your choice. For example, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Gun Owners of America Foundation, Pacific Justice Institute, or a church or religious charity. 3. Thus, you can not only keep nearly 1000 dollars a year from being used to destroy America, you can redirect it to help save America, at no cost to you. See www.pacificjustice.org/union.html for all the information you need to take advantage of these options. The Pacific Justice Institute (www.pacificjustice.org) will represent employees without charge in matters regarding religious freedom, academic freedom, and freedom of association. Proposals to bleed anti-freedom war chests by educating NRA members on such issues were presented to NRA management years ago by Arnold Gaunt and myself (Russ Howard former NRA Director), and rejected out of hand as "non-gun-related" (as opposed to, say, such "gun-related" NRA programs as 3-Strikes for Victimless Gun Crimes; hiring more police, ATF agents, & gun prosecutors; helping gun grabbers enforce all existing gun controls; helping the gun grabbers build state & federal gulags for gun owners; and putting teachers in prison for 10 years for carrying to defend themselves and their students). . . . Don't waste your time begging a sworn enemy for mercy. Instead, bleed him financially until you destroy him. Your weapons are your pen, your money, and your time. Use them wisely, relentlessly, and with focus. ================================= - -- Guns Are Tyranny Control - http://here.at/rkba - --------------------------------------------------------------- The Right to Self Defense is a Fundamental Human Right - RKBA - --------------------------------------------------------------- [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 00 09:55:49 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: What is a moderate, really.... (fwd) On Jul 18, Jim Zoes wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Excerpted from: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_bowles/20000718_xclbo_flying_you.shtml - ---------------------------------------------------- Politicians and voters describe themselves as moderate to give the impression that they are fair-minded, that is to say, not a captive of left- or right-wing dogmatism. It connotes someone who avoids extreme positions. ... There is a famous line in a popular novel that reads, "Being in love means never having to say you're sorry." It provides us with a suitable definitional format: * Being moderate means never having to say you are a liberal. * Being moderate means rejecting the idea that we are all doomed in favor of the idea that we are only half doomed. * Being moderate (as a cynical politician once observed) means dismissing the radical idea that Washington, D.C., should be razed to the ground tomorrow, in favor of the idea of doing it one building at a time. * Being moderate means being willing to swap a value for a victory. * Being moderate means suing tobacco companies for killing people while voting for subsidies for tobacco farmers. * Being moderate means raising the flag of surrender only to half-mast. * Being moderate means believing that Rush Limbaugh is too controversial to host Monday Night Football, while the vile, foul-mouthed smut-monger Dennis Miller is a perfect choice. * Being moderate means choosing purgatory over the extremes of heaven and hell. * Being moderate means choosing gray as a favorite color -- and spelling it "grey" half of the time. * Being moderate means believing that Rodney King's civil rights were violated, while the children and babies at Waco had no civil rights. * Being moderate means having doubts about who should be punished, the criminal or the police officer who arrested him. - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jul 00 09:56:59 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Re: AOL & Compuserve Call Gun Sites Pornography & Shut Them Down (fwd) (fwd) On Jul 13, dstolsig@juno.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Beings that AOL & Compuserve are owned by our 'friends' Time-Warner, who seem to have a strong dislike for Charlton Heston, and guns, maybe if you rounded up a list of all the T-W companies, we could boycott the whole bunch. Just a thought, passed on from a retired King Co. Police Officer. Dick Stolsig, WAC [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jul 00 09:43:04 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: BLAME GRANDMA- Tom Adkins (fwd) On Jul 19, RichSlick@aol.com wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] Blame Grandma The kids are mad!!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------ the Common Conservative 7/15//00 Tom Adkins Link---> commonconservative.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------- I don't know much about the Gen-X kids. They pierce their tongues. They tattoo their backsides. They get weird haircuts and wear baggy shorts. And they always look like those ticked-off skinny kids on those Gap commercials. I'm not sure why they wear 14 earrings and dye their hair purple, but I have a real good idea why they are mad. Cause they finally figured out that Grandma screwed 'em. Grandpa, too. And Mom and Dad. This is no "teen angst" thing. Today's young adults have recognized the legacy of our generation. We dreamed up an incredible assortment of government programs that were supposed to save the world. Forty years later, we know they didn't work. But we won't get rid of them. As further insult, when we retire we expect them to give us even more of their money through a Ponzi scheme innocently called "Social Security," which won't be there when they retire - no matter how many lies we tell. And we're sticking them with the six trillion dollar bill. Thanks, Grandma. Instead of fixing everything when we had the chance, we convinced ourselves how compassionate, noble and brilliant we were. We didn't have the guts to admit we were wrong. Over their lifetime, this new generation will pay half their income for these programs, and probably never use one of them. That six trillion dollar millstone will hang around their necks forever. And you wonder why Junior put a steel rod through his skull? Winston Churchill once surmised if you were 20 and conservative you had no heart, and if you were 40 and liberal you had no brain. Today's kids have turned 40 at 20, and they are angry. They are primed for a revolution. Actually, I think the revolution has started. Visit the "Rock The Vote" website poll. In this obviously liberal forum dedicated to Gen-X and younger, Al Gore is getting spanked. Thirty-somethings aren't buying the liberal jive anymore, either. Despite their proper leftist collegiate indoctrination, they are settling down into a typical 50s family. The superwoman is quitting her investment banker job, staying home and raising 2.3 kids, just like Ozzie and Harriet. They aren't even doing drugs, sleeping around, or having abortions like they're supposed to. They have embraced Internet capitalism, realizing anyone with a computer can make a million bucks. And they don't want to give it back. I'm sure the angry white-male-hating-race-baiting-Marxist Uber-liberals that litter our college campus teaching staffs are horrified, wondering where they went wrong. But they created the monster. We treated our children as interesting accessories while we "found ourselves" by worshiping dopey pop culture, making our kids pay the emotional and financial price. They accurately see our generation as dysfunctional, immoral selfish idiots represented by a president who perpetually lies, molests women and sells defense secrets, then cries - literally - to get "poor me" peer support. And we give it. Our children are recoiling in horror. We conducted a grandiose social experiment that failed utterly. Our kids must pay a 45% tax rate to cover the bill. Like a dirtbag skipping out on a dinner check, we blithely expect them to keep paying for our selfish stupidity. If we don't reform or eliminate our fantastic programs of political vanity, we will find ourselves in a nasty intergenerational war just like Germany. The old Germans lavished themselves with guaranteed jobs, immense benefits and wondrous retirement programs far more than the young generation can support. Unemployment among Germans 18-28 is about 30%. Think they are angry? Their Neo-Nazi movement has a lot of new recruits. I see our young Americans retaliating differently. They'll vote en masse to end every dumb idea we stuffed down their throats. They will take back the schools and fire every last feel-good-rainforest-algebra-save-the-whales teacher. They will kick every moocher off welfare. They will fire every stupid bureaucrat from every stupid government job we ever created, thereby filling the demand for convenience store clerks. They will get rid of every program that doesn't work, which pretty much means all of 'em. They will take away all the goodies we promised ourselves at their expense. And they will exact proper, well-deserved revenge upon us. They are mad. They are motivated. They are telling me, you and Grandma to go to hell. Meet the new tattooed, purple-haired, head-banging nose-ringed capitalist conservatives. Blame yourself, Grandma. _____________________________________________________________ To join/quit this list, send a blank email to join-slickplus@lists.spunge.org leave-slickplus@lists.spunge.org [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 00 11:47:17 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Legacy (fwd) On Jul 20, The McGehee Zone wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] LEGACY (to the tune of "Yesterday" -- Lennon/McCartney) Sung by Willie the C. Legacy Don't know how much that would mean to me Time's almost up and now it seems to be A stained blue dress is my legacy Suddenly I am about to be history How I got here is a mystery Now all depends on Hillary Al Gore won't get far He's no star We must confess Where'd it all go wrong I was strong Now it's a me-e-e-e-ess Legacy Something worthwhile for posterity Mideast peace and worlds prosperity Oh how I need a legacy M-m-m-m, m-m-m-m-m, mmm, mm, m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m... ===================== Kevin McGehee Thomas Crossroads, GA thunderhorse@mcgeheezone.com [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jul 00 11:49:26 PST From: roc@xpresso.seaslug.org (Bill Vance) Subject: Brits vs. U.S. On Jul 20, Mike Riddle wrote: [-------------------- text of forwarded message follows --------------------] http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/commentprint071800c.html 7/18/00 1:30 p.m. Fear in Britain They have no guns - so they have a lot of crime. Dr. Paul Gallant practices optometry in Wesley Hills, NY. Dr. Joanne E= isen practices dentistry in Old Bethpage, NY. Both are Research Associates at the Independence Institute, where = Dave Kopel is Research Director. The furor over the Philadelphia police encounter with a would-be carj= acker and cop-killer isn't the only public-relations nightmare facing the city's police department. Two thou= sand reported sex crimes went "uninvestigated" by Philadelphia police between 1995 and 1997 because = of "pressure to keep the department's crime numbers low," reported ABC News on July 11. Earlier this year, = the department admitted "misreporting" thousands of sexual assaults during the past decade "to make the city = appear safer than it was." Actually, Philadelphia is not the only city to underreport crime in re= cent years. The 1994 Clinton/Schumer crime bill has resulted in lots of federal dollars for local police departme= nts - and also lots of pressure to get crime statistics down so that the federal government can announce the succes= s of its policy of federalizing crime control. But when it comes to fudging crime statistics, even the finest Philade= lphia number-rearranger can't compare to our British cousins. During the nineteenth century, and most of the twentieth, Britain enjo= yed a well-deserved reputation as an unusually safe and crime-free nation, compared to the United States or= continental Europe. No longer. To the great consternation of British authorities concerned about tour= ism revenue, a June CBS News report proclaimed Great Britain "one of the most violent urban societies in t= he Western world." Declared Dan Rather: "This summer, thousands of Americans will travel to Britain expecting = a civilized island free from crime and ugliness...[But now] the U.K. has a crime problem....worse than ours."= A headline in the London Daily Telegraph back on April 1, 1996, said i= t all: "Crime Figures a Sham, Say Police." The story noted that "pressure to convince the public that p= olice were winning the fight against crime had resulted in a long list of ruses to 'massage' statistics," and "th= e recorded crime level bore no resemblance to the actual amount of crime being committed." For example, where a series of homes was burgled, they were regularly = recorded as one crime. If a burglar hit 15 or 20 flats, only one crime was added to the statistics. A brand-new report from the Inspectorate of Constabulary charges Brita= in's 43 police departments with systemic under-classification of crime-for example, by recording burgl= ary as "vandalism." The report lays much of the blame on the police's desire to avoid the extra paperwork assoc= iated with more serious crimes. Britain's justice officials have also kept crime totals down by being = careful about what to count. American homicide data are based on arrests, but British data are based on fina= l dispositions. Suppose that three men kill a woman during an argument outside a bar. They are arrested for murder, = but because of problems with identification (the main witness is dead), charges are eventually drop= ped. In American crime statistics, the event counts as a three-person homicide, but in British statistics it counts= as nothing at all. Another "common practice," according to one retired Scotland Yard seni= or officer, is "falsifying clear-up rates by gaining false confessions from criminals already in prison." (Britain = has far fewer protections against abusive police interrogations than does the United States.) As a result, thous= ands of crimes in Great Britain have been "solved" by bribing or coercing prisoners to confess to crimes they ne= ver committed. Explaining away the disparity between crime reported by victims and th= e official figures became so difficult that, in April 1998, the British Home Office was forced to change its method= of reporting crime, and a somewhat more accurate picture began to emerge. This past January, official street-crime rates in London were more tha= n double the official rate from the year before. So what's a British politician to do when elections coincide with an o= ut-of control crime wave? Calling for "reasonable" gun laws is no longer an option. Handguns have been confi= scated, and long guns are very tightly restricted. So anti-gun demagoguery, while still popular, can't carry = the whole load. Conversely, the government would not find it acceptable to allow its s= ubjects to possess any type of gun (even a licensed, registered .22 rifle) for home protection. Defensive gun own= ership is entirely illegal, and considered an insult to the government, since it implies that the government cannot = keep the peace. Thus, in one recent notorious case, an elderly man who had been repeatedly burglarized, an= d had received no meaningful assistance from the police, shot a pair of career burglars who had broken into th= e man's home. The man was sentenced to life in prison. The British authorities warn the public incessantly about the dangers = of following the American path on gun policy. But the Daily Telegraph (June 29, 2000) points out that "the m= ain reason for a much lower burglary rate in America is householders' propensity to shoot intruders. They do so = without fear of being dragged before courts and jailed for life." So what's the government going to do to make voters safer? One solutio= n came from the Home Office in April 1999 in the form of "Anti-Social Behaviour Orders" - special court ord= ers intended to deal with people who cannot be proven to have committed a crime, but whom the police want t= o restrict anyway. Behaviour Orders can, among other things, prohibit a person from visiting a particular = street or premises, set a curfew, or lead to a person's eviction from his home. Violation of a Behaviour Order can carry a prison sentence of up to fi= ve years. Prime Minister Tony Blair is now proposing that the government be allo= wed to confine people proactively, based on fears of their potential dangerousness. American anti-gun lobbyists have long argued that if America followed = Britain's lead in severely restricting firearms possession and self-defense, then American crime rates would = eventually match Britain's. The lobbyists have also argued that if guns were restricted in America, civil libert= ies in the U.S. would have the same degree of protection that they have in Britain. The lobbyists are absolutely = right. [------------------------- end of forwarded message ------------------------] - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RKBA! ***** Blessings On Thee, Oh Israel! ***** RKBA! - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- An _EFFECTIVE_ | Insured | All matter is vibration. | Let he who hath no weapon in every | by COLT; | -- Max Plank | weapon sell his hand = Freedom | DIAL | In the beginning was the | garment and buy a on every side! | 1911-A1. | word. -- The Bible | sword.--Jesus Christ - ----------------+----------+--------------------------+--------------------- Constitutional Government is dead, LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTION!!!!! - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - ------------------------------ End of roc-digest V2 #367 *************************